First pics of The Dark Knight Rises set (2 day shoot in India with Bale and Pence)

[lefty]

You scared Peter Jackson's gonna take over this decade just like he did with the last? 40 years from now people will be remembering TLOTR trilogy for the last decade and The Hobbit movies for this one as "the movies of the time"

Don't get me wrong though, I'm a Nolan Batman fanboy myself

I kid I kid

I love what PJ has done with LOTR

[lefty]

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae265/r0gu3_ag3nt/DentActPressRelease.jpg

[lefty]

and also

http://video.xx.fbcdn.net/cfs-snc6/v/592887/387/10101516909168686_22359.mp4?oh=edc0ab558f0e2d87f97 cf8e43730c521&oe=4FDF8E20

[ace3g]

z6weEJWBf2g&feature=player_embedded

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ROFL that was peewee's lovechild. I remember him talking about how he was high fiving everyone as he left the theater after watching The Dark Knight lol

Rofl, yeah that was him. And didn't he claim that after watching ledger's dark performance that he started to feel all dark, and evil inside him waiting up come out

I remember one timehe was posting some seriously weird shit

Lefty is like that dudes understudy

[lefty]

CBF must be the worst poster here :lol

[redzero]

CBF must be the worst poster here :lol

Nah, you're way worse.

[DPG21920]

From IMDB:


THE BUZZ: Bane, one of the most empathy earning villains in comic book lore, is the ideal final opponent for Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy; Tom Hardy's portrayal of the Venom-addicted backbreaker should rank up there with The Joker, Hannibal Lecter, Anton Chigurh ... Comics types should be able to piece together the main parts of the narrative given the connection between Bane and Ra's Al Ghul, though how Catwoman fits in remains a mystery.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Bane earns empathy?

I remember everyone at the comic store hating him for breaking Batman's back

[DPG21920]

He was wrongly imprisoned as a small child and abused and tested on (venom).

[ace3g]

ASQqjK47c04

[mFFL03]

"mistah waynah"

great scene

[lefty]

ASQqjK47c04
:hat

[Monostradamus]

ASQqjK47c04

That's easily the best trailer for TDKR. The teaser was okay, but the next two trailers were pretty poorly put together imo. This one is just badass.

[redzero]

dat soundtrack
dat trailer

[DPG21920]

That catwoman kick looked awful tbh...

[Reck]

That catwoman kick looked awful tbh...

LOL Trinity wannabe.

NEuZgK669zY

@ 1:30, 1:58

Hathaway has no athletism at all. :lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ASQqjK47c04

Looks cool from this trailer.

But if Bane's voice is unnecessarily and distractingly gruffy will any fanboys admit it?

Either Nolan has a boner for distracting voices or all of America does

[Spurtacus]

ASQqjK47c04

Best trailer by far. Now I believe this has a good chance of being better than TDK.

[lefty]

So much greatness :cry

[G-Nob]

The first six minutes of the movie if anyone is interested. Don't watch if you'd rather wait for the release.

http://www.twitvid.com/H3GG8

[jaffies]

The first six minutes of the movie if anyone is interested. Don't watch if you'd rather wait for the release.

http://www.twitvid.com/H3GG8
Isn't that the prologue shown before MI4? in December?

[G-Nob]

Isn't that the prologue shown before MI4? in December?

Yes that's right. Of course it looks way better on the IMAX screen. :)

[mFFL03]

The first six minutes of the movie if anyone is interested. Don't watch if you'd rather wait for the release.

http://www.twitvid.com/H3GG8


Tommy Carcetti!

[ace3g]

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[lefty]

THAT's Catwoman

[DPG21920]

:lmao

[lefty]

:lmao

Already sold out

Lol avengers

[CubanSucks]

THAT's Catwoman

smh

as if that's a good thing? All I got from that was that she's the only hope Batman has in winning this one. Like they're fucking full on partners or some shit. You're delusional if you think she's looked good for the movie from what we've seen so far

[lefty]

smh

as if that's a good thing? All I got from that was that she's the only hope Batman has in winning this one. Like they're fucking full on partners or some shit. You're delusional if you think she's looked good for the movie from what we've seen so far

To each his own

But I respect your opinion

[DPG21920]

Dude, I think this will be great despite her. The previews with her look awful IMO. Looks like a token part that will really add nothing and hopefully won't ruin it.

[lefty]

Dude, I think this will be great despite her. The previews with her look awful IMO. Looks like a token part that will really add nothing and hopefully won't ruin it.

If you read the graphic novels, you'll see that she seems to have done a pretty good job

[redzero]

Which graphic novels have you read, lefty?

[lefty]

Which graphic novels have you read, lefty?

Quite a few

Batman : Year One
The man who laughs
The Killing Joke
No Man's Land
Knightfall
The Dark Knight Returns
The Long Halloween

[redzero]

Catwoman is featured prominently in The Long Halloween, but all those other ones either didn't have her in them or she plays a minor role in them. What is your opinion on Anne's portrayal in the movie based on?

[lefty]

Catwoman is featured prominently in The Long Halloween, but all those other ones either didn't have her in them or she plays a minor role in them. What is your opinion on Anne's portrayal in the movie based on?
She is in Batman : Year one
She is in No Man's Land

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Lefty settles it. Catwoman will be awesome in this movie.


she's Gotham's reckoning!

[lefty]

Lefty settles it. Catwoman will be awesome in this movie.


she's Gotham's reckoning!
haha

But I'm mostly looking forward to Bane

Tom Hardy :lobt2:

[redzero]

She is in Batman : Year one
She is in No Man's Land

She's also in The Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall. You didn't answer my question.

[DPG21920]

Is anyone going to do the July 19th marathon at your local theaters?

[lefty]

The Dark Knight Rises is already at 150 million for it's North American opening weekend in advance ticket sales.

[mFFL03]

The Dark Knight Rises is already at 150 million for it's North American opening weekend in advance ticket sales.

I'm surprised Dallas' Imax showings aren't sold out.

And just look at the imaginary demand are we creating here. Here are some IMAX showtimes for Friday, July 20th:

9:00a 12:25p 3:50p 7:15p 10:40p 2:05a 5:30a

Only the 715 and 1040 pm shows are sold out. All other July 19th and 20th showtimes are still selling. 13 days to go...

[lefty]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295275_3382232722880_20672060_n.jpg

[CuckingFunt]

Is anyone going to do the July 19th marathon at your local theaters?

If I could justify the time and had a friend here who was as much of a nerd as I am, I would in a heartbeat.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You would think Jesus Christ directed this movie with the amount of fanfare/anticipation it's getting.

[CuckingFunt]

You would think Jesus Christ directed this movie with the amount of anfare/anticipation it's getting.

Nolan is the cherry, tbh. I'm all about Tom Hardy as Bane. It's been my fantasy dream casting idea since I saw Bronson.

[redzero]

You would think Jesus Christ directed this movie with the amount of fanfare/anticipation it's getting.

Nah, Jesus' last movie was terrible.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Nah, Jesus' last movie was terrible.

Don't question the Gospel according to St. Mel, plebe

[lefty]

Mother of God ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXB8nyEalw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[CubanSucks]

Mother of God ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXB8nyEalw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

are you retarded or lazy?
1KXB8nyEalw

now that me and my friends purchased our tickets my excitement is rising like a motherfucker

[CuckingFunt]

Without getting too annoyingly girlish about it, let me just say that the Heisenberg look really, really, really works on Tom...

[CubanSucks]

Without getting too annoyingly girlish about it, let me just say that the Heisenberg look really, really, really works on Tom...

you rang?
http://www.danbirlew.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Episode-1-Walt-2-760.jpg


the Bane of Albuquerque

[MannyIsGod]

Its going to take an amazing movie to live up to the hype for this. I'm not giving it much of a chance to do that, but I'll be going in and trying to evaluate it just based on its merits and not the hype. I expect Nolan to deliver good movie even if it doesn't live up to TDK standards (although BB was amazing too so maybe he will).

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If this wad intended to be some transcendent trilogy, picking scarecrow for the major first villain, then having two face as a thirty minute villain, only to conclude with Anne Hathaway as freaking catwoman is stupid.

there's no way this movie lives up to the hype and build up. I'll check it once the first wave of fan boys settles down. Frankly I expect it to be better than TDK. I expect Nolan told bale to tone down the ridiculous Batman voice, and of course, I thought TDK was mediocre, so not really a high bar to overcome IMO.

[redzero]

^ What are you even talking about with that first sentence?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

To me, the order and treatment of villains has been mishandled

Two face was a thirty minute villain, after being such a great protagonist

Now as the side character, we get princess diaries cat woman. Anne will be criticized the rest of her career if she messes this role up. A cheap cat woman would make the overall character arc of the trilogy laughable.

[CuckingFunt]

If this wad intended to be some transcendent trilogy, picking scarecrow for the major first villain, then having two face as a thirty minute villain, only to conclude with Anne Hathaway as freaking catwoman is stupid.

there's no way this movie lives up to the hype and build up. I'll check it once the first wave of fan boys settles down. Frankly I expect it to be better than TDK. I expect Nolan told bale to tone down the ridiculous Batman voice, and of course, I thought TDK was mediocre, so not really a high bar to overcome IMO.


To me, the order and treatment of villains has been mishandled

Two face was a thirty minute villain, after being such a great protagonist

Now as the side character, we get princess diaries cat woman. Anne will be criticized the rest of her career if she messes this role up. A cheap cat woman would make the overall character arc of the trilogy laughable.

I think it's already been pretty clearly established that I think your stubbornly contrarian stance on Nolan's Batman films is a load of hooey and is more than likely a shtick developed in order to avoid saying you were wrong about The Dark Knight to begin with, so I'm not going to even bother getting into that.

BUT...

LOL at criticizing Nolan's handling of Batman villains in two consecutive posts while intentionally avoiding mention of Neeson/Ra's al Ghul, Ledger/Joker, or Hardy/Bane.

[redzero]

^ Yes. Ra's was the main villain of the first one, not Scarecrow. And focusing on Two Face (who wasn't the main villain of TDK) and Catwoman (who won't even qualify as a villain to anybody who watches the trailers) is pretty dumb.

[lefty]

^ What are you even talking about with that first sentence?
:lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm saying so far these guys have been shoehorned in
Its mishandled

[lefty]

Jamie Ottley ‏@JayOttley

The Dark Knight Rises was the masterpiece of all comic films, the best was saved for last... Oscar for Best Picture and Bane as Tom Hardy

[G-Nob]

Jamie Ottley ‏@JayOttley

The Dark Knight Rises was the masterpiece of all comic films, the best was saved for last... Oscar for Best Picture and Bane as Tom Hardy

mmkay.....where's the review? Where was the advanced screening held? Not one Top Critic has posted anything as of yet on Rotten Tomatoes.

[redzero]

mmkay.....where's the review? Where was the advanced screening held? Not one Top Critic has posted anything as of yet on Rotten Tomatoes.

Critics aren't allowed to release reviews until the 20th.

[CubanSucks]

mmkay.....where's the review? Where was the advanced screening held? Not one Top Critic has posted anything as of yet on Rotten Tomatoes.


deadmau5, seriously? You better be no older than 16 tbh

[G-Nob]

Critics aren't allowed to release reviews until the 20th.

Wrong.

[G-Nob]

deadmau5, seriously? You better be no older than 16 tbh

:dizzy

[G-Nob]

Jay Ottley is legit and I read some of his stuff in the past. I'm interested to get his thorough take on it if he's seen the movie.

[mFFL03]

Twitter posts are not full reviews

[lefty]

But legit critics were invited

[Trainwreck2100]

To me, the order and treatment of villains has been mishandled

Two face was a thirty minute villain, after being such a great protagonist

Now as the side character, we get princess diaries cat woman. Anne will be criticized the rest of her career if she messes this role up. A cheap cat woman would make the overall character arc of the trilogy laughable.

as i've said already, ledger offing himself was not part of nolan's plan

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Some of my twitter sources say Nolan supplied Mary Kate Olsen with bunk pills, the day she hooked up heath ledger with his fix

[ace3g]

The actor who plays the doctor threw me off because of what roles he usually plays, but someone mentioned he also played a doctor in Memento so he has the Nolan connection.

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[ace3g]

stupid double post can someone delete this, thanks

[CubanSucks]

The actor who plays the doctor threw me off because of what roles he usually plays, but someone mentioned he also played a doctor in Memento so he has the Nolan connection.

PayRJfUvK3Q&feature=player_embedded

Lt. Dangle

[mFFL03]

Kimmel had Oldman on tonight and Jimmy revealed that even he was at the LA private screening, so much for legit critics.

[lefty]

Kimmel had Oldman on tonight and Jimmy revealed that even he was at the LA private screening, so much for legit critics.

Yeah because Oldman was one of the critics invited to the screening and posted his feedback on Twitter using different accounts

Multigary !!!!

[mFFL03]

No no, kimmel went to the private screening

[lefty]

No no, kimmel went to the private screening

Shit...

[lefty]

News (http://www.theonion.com/features/news/)

'Dark Knight Rises' Opts For Lighthearted, Cartoonish Tone

'It's Fun, Like A Comic Book,' Says Christopher Nolan

July 12, 2012 | ISSUE 48•28 (http://www.theonion.com/issue/4828/)
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HOLLYWOOD, CA—Stating that "the time has come for a tonal shift" in the blockbuster series, director Christopher Nolan announced Thursday that the forthcoming Batman film The Dark Knight Rises would take a lighter, more humorous tone than its predecessors, and would be filled with "slapstick, primary colors, and just plain old fun."
"I was somewhat happy with the first two films—probing the psychological landscape of Gotham from an adult perspective is sort of neat, if you like that kind of thing," Nolan told reporters at a promotional event. "But then I realized, 'Hey, what am I doing? Batman is a superhero. Superheroes are supposed to be fun and for kids.' So this time around, I wanted to make something nice and light and simple, because people aren't looking for a civics lesson with Batman. They just want some pleasant, mindless diversion."
"After all, we're talking about a comic-book movie here," Nolan added. "Let's lighten things up a bit, shall we?"
According to Nolan, in early script meetings for the sequel, proposed plot threads tended to focus on familiar themes of the pained inner life of Bruce Wayne/Batman, his complicated relationship with Gotham law enforcement, the depraved nihilism of the city's criminal element, and the crushing weight of his traumatic memory of his parents' murder.
However, Nolan said, he soon grew weary of the treatment's often somber and starkly realistic tone, and opted instead to focus on the fact that Batman comes from an "enjoyable little picture book" and should therefore not be approached with such grave solemnity.
"It hit me all of a sudden that comic books are really just silly and frivolous things, and that the people who read them are primarily children or fun-loving adults who are looking for a cheery, good old-fashioned romp," Nolan said. "I mean, it's Batman, for God's sake, not Richard III. We should just go goofy with it. And so we did."
The film's screenplay, co-written with veteran film and television writer Lorenzo Semple Jr., reportedly concerns a coalition of villains who form a "Batman Revenge Society." The groups aims to murder Batman (Christian Bale) with, at various times, a plummeting steel safe, jets of cyanide gas concealed in a stuffed moose head, a trapdoor over a shark tank, a beautifully wrapped but ticking gift box, a gorilla trained to go berserk when it sees Batman, a sexy but ungrounded female robot, and a Rube Goldberg–style contraption that, roughly 90 seconds after activation, propels a whirling buzz saw blade into the midsection of whoever is standing on a painted bull's-eye target.


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"I feel like I really went back to Batman's roots and discovered the character's true essence," Nolan said. "And that essence turned out to be in the Batman comics from 1940 through 1970, the 1960s Adam West series, the 1970s Super Friends episodes, the actually quite enjoyable films of Joel Schumacher, and Batman's cameo appearances on Scooby-Doo. These were my creative touchstones as I completed my trilogy."
Nolan promised the new film would whisk children of all ages into the fun four-color world of Gotham City, and delight them with whimsical surprises, including an extended car chase through a paint factory, zoo, and outdoor wedding; a new Batmobile whose onboard computer is programmed with a childlike personality able to honk its horn to signal approval or retreat into an alley when scared; and a humorous subplot concerning the inability of Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) to get a Murphy bed to stay down.
The director also said Rises would be the "most merchandisable" Batman film in years, and he promised a vast array of licensed tie-ins, from infant onesies and light-up children's shoes to an expansion module for the Lego Batman video game and a special Dark Knight Rises edition of Monopoly featuring all the zany locations and characters from the film.
"Best of all, there will be absolutely none of the confusing moral ambiguity that dragged down The Dark Knight," Nolan said. "People don't want all that pompous 'Who's the real monster, Batman or the criminals he pursues?' junk. They want to see the Joker get a big sockeroo on the chin and get tangled up in a net. That's classic funny-book entertainment."
"Needless to say, no one could ever replace Heath Ledger as the Joker," Nolan added, "but I have to say that Rob Schneider stepped up like a pro. He's just naturally funny and a real cutup, which is what you want in the Joker."
Nolan confirmed he is open to continuing the franchise indefinitely on an accelerated pace of up to one feature per year, "as long as people keep going to see them," and he has asked fans to participate in a DC Comics online poll to select the next film's villains.
"As long as I get to give the movie-going public the whiz-bang action and goofy comedy they crave, I'm artistically satisfied," he added.
Opening July 20, The Dark Knight Rises stars Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, and the yet-to-be-announced winner of the Nickelodeon/Capri Sun "I Wanna Co-star with Batman" Sweepstakes as either Robin or Batgirl.http://www.theonion.com/static/onion/img/icons/terminator.gif

[The Gemini Method]

Two must-see things in July? Wow! The return of Breaking Bad and this movie are going to be awesome.

[Spurtacus]

Regal Entertainment Group (RGC), a leading motion picture exhibitor owning and operating the largest theater circuit in the United States, announces a celebration of the Dark Knight with a one-night-only event for fans to enjoy the complete trilogy including the premiere of ‘The Dark Knight Rises.’ Tickets are on sale now online and at the 445 participating Regal Cinemas, United Artists and Edwards Theatres.

Admission to the Regal Dark Knight Marathon is $25 at all participating theatres across the country. Members of Regal’s industry leading loyalty program will also earn 20 extra credits from Regal Crown Club for each ticket purchased to the event above and beyond their usual accumulation of credits. And as an added value to guests, Batman fans will receive a free small popcorn with each ticket purchased for the Regal Dark Knight Marathon.

“The Dark Knight Rises is one of the most eagerly anticipated movies of this summer. By hosting this marathon, Regal is celebrating the Dark Knight trilogy of films with an epic one-night-only event,” stated Russ Nunley, Vice President for Marketing and Communications at Regal Entertainment Group. “Regal patrons can enjoy seeing how it all started and follow the storyline all the way into the midnight premiere of Dark Knight Rises.”

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/regal-entertainment-group-hosts-dark-203000850.html

list of theaters in article

[UZER]

ive been super excited about this movie since the end of the dark knight.

I knew the entire movie of the the dark knight before I even saw it which took away some of the thrill. I learned my lesson and have purposely avoided finding out too much about TDKR.....

But man this last week is killing me! im fighting myself from going online and reading spoilers.

[Ginobilly]

ive been super excited about this movie since the end of the dark knight.

I knew the entire movie of the the dark knight before I even saw it which took away some of the thrill. I learned my lesson and have purposely avoided finding out too much about TDKR.....

But man this last week is killing me! im fighting myself from going online and reading spoilers.

+1:toast

can't wait myself. The only thing that really grinds my gears are all the Nolan batman haters who criticize his vision, yet they will be the first ones in line at the movies to go watch it. Just admit you'll that you like it! guilty pleasure! My cousin has been ragging on The Dark Knight Rises for the past two years, yet I found out that he bought advance tickets to see it in Imax.:lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This gonbe best movie ever made

[da_suns_fan]

The Dark Knight was absurdly overrated and Im sure "Dark Knight Rises" will be overrated as well.

Second film was about an hour too long. Saw it once and had no desire to see it a second time. Enjoyable, but not nearly worth the hype. Only thing more overrated was "Avatar". Or maybe "Inception", Nolan's other absurdly overrated action flick.

Christian Bale is no Bruce Wayne. Sadly, no actor to dawn the cape and mask has established himself as the "Definitive Batman" the way Christopher Reeve established himself as the "Definitive Superman".

Batman is one of, if not the, coolest super heroes and he's been overshadowed by the actor playing the villain in pretty much every single film.

The 90s Fox animated cartoon captured the character of Bruce Wayne/Batman much better than Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney/Bale ever did.

[da_suns_fan]

Also, when you take away the MYSTERY of Batman, he becomes kind of lame.

We dont need to know how he purchases the batmobile or gets his suit etc. He's rich and has connections. Whats much more interesting is a mysterious billionaire whos so messed up he dawns a costume and fights crime at night.

Don Draper is much closer to the character than Bale's "raspy voice" rendition.

[CubanSucks]

The Dark Knight was absurdly overrated and Im sure "Dark Knight Rises" will be overrated as well.

Second film was about an hour too long. Saw it once and had no desire to see it a second time. Enjoyable, but not nearly worth the hype. Only thing more overrated was "Avatar". Or maybe "Inception", Nolan's other absurdly overrated action flick.

Christian Bale is no Bruce Wayne. Sadly, no actor to dawn the cape and mask has established himself as the "Definitive Batman" the way Christopher Reeve established himself as the "Definitive Superman".

Batman is one of, if not the, coolest super heroes and he's been overshadowed by the actor playing the villain in pretty much every single film.

The 90s Fox animated cartoon captured the character of Bruce Wayne/Batman much better than Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney/Bale ever did.


Also, when you take away the MYSTERY of Batman, he becomes kind of lame.

We dont need to know how he purchases the batmobile or gets his suit etc. He's rich and has connections. Whats much more interesting is a mysterious billionaire whos so messed up he dawns a costume and fights crime at night.

Don Draper is much closer to the character than Bale's "raspy voice" rendition.

you're over 500 comments too late, breh

just bask in the 8.9 rating and #8 all-time ranking on IMDB. Don't forget the 94% critics and 96% audience ratings on Rotten Tomatoes. :wakeup feels good man



Don Draper is much closer to the character than Bale's "raspy voice" rendition.

:lmao keep enjoying your glorified soap opera

[redzero]

Mad Men is a good show, breh.

[da_suns_fan]

you're over 500 comments too late, breh

just bask in the 8.9 rating and #8 all-time ranking on IMDB. Don't forget the 94% critics and 96% audience ratings on Rotten Tomatoes. :wakeup feels good man




:lmao keep enjoying your glorified soap opera

This is EXACTLY what Im talking about.

A generation of idiots.

If you think Mad Men is a soap opera, then youve never seen Mad Men or youve never seen a soap opera.

Please show me a soap opera in which an alcoholic executive hits rock bottom the way Don Draper did in season four of mad men. That show is superb without being "sensational" with its plot twists etc. Not to mention the parallels of different stories happening within each episode. The writing on that show is second to none.

Stick to "Inception" CubanMustGo. Debate with your idiot friends whether or not it was "all a dream". One day you might wake up and realize the "top spinning" at the end was a stupid gimmick thrown in at the end to generate buzz and thus MORE FUCKING MONEY.

[monosylab1k]

Mad Men is a good show but if we want to talk about shit that's overrated, start there.

[monosylab1k]

A bunch of rich New Yorkers like to drink, fuck, and act miserable. That's deep!

[CubanSucks]

If you think Mad Men is a soap opera, then youve never seen Mad Men or youve never seen a soap opera.

Please show me a soap opera in which an alcoholic executive hits rock bottom the way Don Draper did in season four of mad men. That show is superb without being "sensational" with its plot twists etc. Not to mention the parallels of different stories happening within each episode. The writing on that show is second to none.

I didn't call it a soap opera. I called it a glorified soap opera.


Stick to "Inception" CubanMustGo. Debate with your idiot friends whether or not it was "all a dream". One day you might wake up and realize the "top spinning" at the end was a stupid gimmick thrown in at the end to generate buzz and thus MORE FUCKING MONEY.

this isn't an Inception thread, who's talking about Inception?

[da_suns_fan]

A bunch of rich New Yorkers like to drink, fuck, and act miserable. That's deep!

Yet if theyre rich and drunk and having sex, why are they miserable?!!!

[da_suns_fan]

I didn't call it a soap opera. I called it a glorified soap opera.



this isn't an Inception thread, who's talking about Inception?

But you loved Inception, yes? :lol

Only the same idiots who loved "Inception" could be enamored with "The Dark Knight".

[monosylab1k]

Oh, so all the guilty pleasure boozing and sex in the show is the gimmick then.

[da_suns_fan]

Oh, so all the guilty pleasure boozing and sex in the show is the gimmick then.

No, Don Draper drinks because hes an alcoholic. He cheats on his stunning wife because shes perfect, yet icy. What he really wants is to be surprised and sexually stimulated. He dig's his daughters teacher because she dances around barefoot in the grass, something he's not allowed to do.

He's never satisfied which drives him to be fantastic at his job but also causes him to be kind of dick to the people he works with.

Like I said though, the parallels in the stories is uncanny. The heroin addict who sells him her painting...she doesnt care if her work is good, she just wants his money for drugs. Don then realizes he's the same with selling advertising for tobacco. He doesnt care if the work is good, he just needs the account for the firms bottom line. When he realizes this, he renounces advertising for cigarettes all together even though hes a chain smoker.

Again, that writing is superb.

[monosylab1k]

So what's with all the shots of joans's big ass and titties?

[da_suns_fan]

So what's with all the shots of joans's big ass and titties?

Did you watch the last season?

Joan's decision to whore herself out for a partner spot paralleled Peggy's decision to leave the firm to be creative director for a rival advertiser, despite Don's offers for more pay etc.

Joan could be bought. Peggy could not.

Likewise, Joan thought for years what she really wanted was a rich husband to spend money and let her retire from having to work. This made her dress promiscuous to draw the attention of rich suitors. But after having a kid she realizes how much she actually enjoys working and wants a seat at the big boy table rather just being someones wife.

Again, writing on that show is fantastic.

[redzero]

You can quit it with the Nolan-esque exposition.

[CubanSucks]

But you loved Inception, yes? :lol

Only the same idiots who loved "Inception" could be enamored with "The Dark Knight".

It's alright, sure. You're also in the minority on that one too, and not just the minority in the "idiot" crowd either. I won't go into a long diatribe that I could copy and past from another site about how you're wrong though


No, Don Draper drinks because hes an alcoholic. He cheats on his stunning wife because shes perfect, yet icy. What he really wants is to be surprised and sexually stimulated. He dig's his daughters teacher because she dances around barefoot in the grass, something he's not allowed to do.

He's never satisfied which drives him to be fantastic at his job but also causes him to be kind of dick to the people he works with.

Like I said though, the parallels in the stories is uncanny. The heroin addict who sells him her painting...she doesnt care if her work is good, she just wants his money for drugs. Don then realizes he's the same with selling advertising for tobacco. He doesnt care if the work is good, he just needs the account for the firms bottom line. When he realizes this, he renounces advertising for cigarettes all together even though hes a chain smoker.

Again, that writing is superb.

glorified soap opera superb

[lefty]

But you loved Inception, yes? :lol

Only the same idiots who loved "Inception" could be enamored with "The Dark Knight".

I loved TDK and I hate Inception

Inception was a total POS

[monosylab1k]

Did you watch the last season?

Joan's decision to whore herself out for a partner spot paralleled Peggy's decision to leave the firm to be creative director for a rival advertiser, despite Don's offers for more pay etc.

Joan could be bought. Peggy could not.

Likewise, Joan thought for years what she really wanted was a rich husband to spend money and let her retire from having to work. This made her dress promiscuous to draw the attention of rich suitors. But after having a kid she realizes how much she actually enjoys working and wants a seat at the big boy table rather just being someones wife.

Again, writing on that show is fantastic.

I'm not talking about how she dresses. I'm talking about shots in the show specifically showing off her ass and titties.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

1) never seen mad men, but to scoff it for having miserable characters is lame, all "good"shows in the last 10 years have specialized in miserable anti heroes


2) just watched Begins and TDK in succession to prepare for the big premiere
The one liners in Begins are so beyond lame, it was obvious Nolan got bad feedback on then and toned it down for TDK. Hopefully he realized bale's voice got unnecessarily gruffy at a logistic rate during TDK. Maybe I'm tired cuz I been up for 37 hours straight, but I only counted 2 indescribable lines from Batman, and while they made me laugh, I'm confident Nolan will have him tone it down for TDKR.

It's just such a shame Ledger had to take that Olsen girl's sleeping pills. His performance will never get it's proper due from a film nut like me, because there are simply far too many dwads out there that high fived people in the theater after watching this movie, sheerly over ledger death hype. Makes me always slightly look on the movie with disgust.

Looking forward to TDKR, though, tickets bought and ready.

[redzero]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as douchey as giving into the hype.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as douchey as giving into the hype.

Perhaps. But being self aware negates at least part of the douche factor. I mean come on I just admitted I watched both movies back to back.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as douchey as giving into the hype.

Plus I actually like ledgers joker even more now after watching the movie again and placing his role in the Gotham context set up in the first movie

[CubanSucks]

I'll never like Ledger's Joker because too many other people did :cry

CBF: self aware douche

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yes, I am smarter than you for taking ledgers performance with a grain a salt, rather than run with tha herd.
You had me right, but should added a "pwnt" at the end

[da_suns_fan]

It's alright, sure. You're also in the minority on that one too, and not just the minority in the "idiot" crowd either. I won't go into a long diatribe that I could copy and past from another site about how you're wrong though



glorified soap opera superb

I dont need to copy and paste from any other site. I saw "inception". It was incredibly overrated.

Special effects were great, but there were too many plot holes and that gimmicky ending was just embarrassing.

"Did the Top stop spinning?!!! Was he still in a dream?!!!'

Worst ending since Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes".

[da_suns_fan]

More on why "The Dark Knight" sucked:

Nolan's Batman (and I use the term loosely) was incredibly lame. He's turned the character into a dumb Tony Stark. And by that I mean theyre both characters with suits that help them fight crime, only Tony Stark invents his own while Batman gets his from Morgan Freeman. Thats pretty much the extent of the character. Theres nothing dark or mysterious about Batman. He just had really rich parents and hes got a raspy voice.

What SHOULD the character be like? Remember that Batman keeps kryptonite in the Bat-Cave. Why? Because he trusts no one and he's got a backup plan in case "mr goody two-shoes" superman has a melt-down. Hes a total cynic. Theres no way the character of Batman would be enamored with Harvey Dent the way "Batman" was in TDK.

Not to mention the bat suit looked fucking stupid.

[redzero]

How does Nolan's Batman relying on the help of others make him less mysterious? How does comic Batman knowing how to do everything make him more mysterious? The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) grounded in reality.

You're whining because this Batman isn't a super detective, genius inventor, master martial artist, etc. Just because Tony Stark has near-superhuman intelligence does not make him a more compelling character. Just because Batman relies on/trusts others (like he does in the comics anyway) does not make him less compelling. There are plenty of interpretations of the character. I don't understand why people want Batman to be only be one way in all types of media.

[da_suns_fan]

How does Nolan's Batman relying on the help of others make him less mysterious? How does comic Batman knowing how to do everything make him more mysterious? The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) grounded in reality.

You're whining because this Batman isn't a super detective, genius inventor, master martial artist, etc. Just because Tony Stark has near-superhuman intelligence does not make him a more compelling character. Just because Batman relies on/trusts others (like he does in the comics anyway) does not make him less compelling. There are plenty of interpretations of the character. I don't understand why people want Batman to be only be one way in all types of media.

"Red letter media" Quiz: Without telling me what his job is or what he looks like, describe to me the character of Batman in "The Dark Knight".

Now do the same for Tony Stark in "Iron Man".

See the difference?

[da_suns_fan]

Likewise, the "based in reality" goes out the door when Batman:

1) Drives a car thats way too big to be practical for getting around town. Not to mention he'd be incredibly easy to track down...just follow the GIANT black car.

2) Has no weapons but is able to take out dozens of bad dudes with just his fists.

3) His cape never gets caught in the wheels of his stupid bat cycle. In fact, his cape never gets caught on anything. If its based in reality, why the fucking cape?

4) Getting yanked into the air by a moving C-130 would fucking kill you.

5) Fire burns dont expose the inner working of your face. Having no skin would lead to so many infections you'd die pretty damn fast.

6) If you were setting up a ruse to catch the Joker, why not lead the Joker to a place with 200 fucking cop cars and surround him?

7) Real cops would put the Joker in an isolated cell.

Thats off the top of my head.

[redzero]

Yeah, referencing Star Wars reviews instead of addressing my post is really a compelling argument.

And I am not trying to say Batman is a more compelling character than Iron Man. I am trying to say that making a character great at everything does not make them more compelling by itself.

[da_suns_fan]

Yeah, referencing Star Wars reviews instead of addressing my post is really a compelling argument.

And I am not trying to say Batman is a more compelling character than Iron Man. I am trying to say that making a character great at everything does not make them more compelling by itself.

Im not referencing star wars reviews, im using that site's tactic for exposing when characters are especially bland or "weak".

So without telling me what he looks like or what his occupation is, describe to me Nolan's "Batman".

Its quite easy to do the same thing with "Tony Stark" because he has actual character traits besides "rich dude with a raspy voice".

Batman is the coolest super-hero and Nolan/Bale reduce him to being fucking boring.

[redzero]

:lol this guy was so ready to address the reality issue that he completely ignored what I actually posted.


The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) groundedin reality.

[redzero]

List comic Bruce Wayne's character traits without explaining what he does.

[da_suns_fan]

List comic Bruce Wayne's character traits without explains what he does.

Thats easy.

Form Wikipedia:

Bruce Wayne is often seen as an irresponsible, superficial playboy who lives off his family's personal fortune (amassed when his family invested in Gotham real estate before the city was a bustling metropolis)[108] and the profits of Wayne Enterprises, a major private technology firm that he inherits. However, Wayne is also known for his contributions to charity, notably through his Wayne Foundation, a charity devoted to helping the victims of crime and preventing people from becoming criminals.[109] Bruce creates the playboy public persona to aid in throwing off suspicion of his secret identity, often acting dim-witted and self-absorbed to further the act.[110] Among the more noted measures he uses to maintain the facade is pretending he is a heavy drinker by claiming his glasses of ginger ale are strong beverages; Bruce is actually a strict teetotaler to maintain his physical fitness and mental acuity.

[redzero]

:lol Bruce Wayne does most of that in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Tell me about his personality. I already saw those Star Wars reviews, so I know what you are talking about.

[da_suns_fan]

:lol Bruce Wayne does most of that in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Tell me about his personality. I already saw those Star Wars reviews, so I know what you are talking about.

I didnt ask you to describe for me the character of bruce wayne, I said describe to me the character of BATMAN in Nolan's "The Dark Knight".

[redzero]

:lol Whatever. Describe comic Batman without stating what he does. I need a point of reference first.

[da_suns_fan]

:lol Whatever. Describe comic Batman without stating what he does. I need a point of reference first.

No..i asked you first. I can easily describe the character of Batman without telling you his occupation or what he looks like.

But I cant when I think about Nolan/Bale's "Batman".

Hes got a raspy voice and he fights crime...oh crap, thats his occupation (crime fighter).

[redzero]

If it is so easy, then do it. If one has a problem with the characterization of Nolan's Batman, would it not make sense to compare him with the comic version to show how Nolan messed up?

[Ginobilly]

Likewise, the "based in reality" goes out the door when Batman:

1) Drives a car thats way too big to be practical for getting around town. Not to mention he'd be incredibly easy to track down...just follow the GIANT black car.

2) Has no weapons but is able to take out dozens of bad dudes with just his fists.

3) His cape never gets caught in the wheels of his stupid bat cycle. In fact, his cape never gets caught on anything. If its based in reality, why the fucking cape?

4) Getting yanked into the air by a moving C-130 would fucking kill you.

5) Fire burns dont expose the inner working of your face. Having no skin would lead to so many infections you'd die pretty damn fast.

6) If you were setting up a ruse to catch the Joker, why not lead the Joker to a place with 200 fucking cop cars and surround him?

7) Real cops would put the Joker in an isolated cell.

Thats off the top of my head.

relax! It's a sci-fi/fantasy/fiction/superhero movie based on a comic book. You could get away without explaining the physics of it. :lmao The expectations some people have for a simple concept are just incredible. :lmao

[Ginobilly]

If it is so easy, then do it. If one has a problem with the characterization of Nolan's Batman, would it not make sense to compare him with the comic version to show how Nolan messed up?

and that's where all the people are wrong! There is no right or wrong vision of what is Batman. This is Nolan's vision.(the best imo after Batman the animated series) The directors before him had their different versions. Tim burtons was good, but Joel's movies are cringe worthy(George clonney as a 50 year old batman?Chris ODonnell as Robin:lmao)

I got a simple concept for all the mass hater critics. If you hate it that much, then don't go watch it; simple as that! You'll don't have to be like fat-comic book guy from the Simpsons!

[redzero]

Hell, Batman's characterization (like any other comic book character) is dependent on the writer more than anything.

[CuckingFunt]

Joel's movies are cringe worthy(George clonney as a 50 year old batman?Chris ODonnell as Robin:lmao)

Clooney turned 36 the year Batman & Robin came out.

And, incidentally, Clooney would make a fucking awesome 50-year-old Batman. If they were to ever make a Batman film using Frank Miller's work as the source material and go with his older, grizzled, cynical, completely over it Batman, Clooney would be the perfect choice.



But, yeah, Shumacher Batman is painful bad.

[da_suns_fan]

If it is so easy, then do it. If one has a problem with the characterization of Nolan's Batman, would it not make sense to compare him with the comic version to show how Nolan messed up?

Okay, differences between Nolan's batman vs comic batman:

1) Batman is suppose to be traumatized/haunted by the death of his parents. So much so that he has become obsessed with fighting crime. He's dark and twisted in his own right, hence the name "the dark knight". He could never "quit" the way Nolan's batman wants to quit. The idea that batman could go and have a normal life someday is completely against the character. Yet Nolan's batman spends half the movie wishing he could get with Maggie Gylehall and let Dent keep the city safe which is fucking stupid.

2) Batman is suppose to be cynical. He doesnt even trust Superman (keeps his own supply of kryptonite...just in case). He has his own dark side and thus believes everyone has a dark side. But we're suppose to believe he's gonna let a politician "be the new hero"?!!

3) Batman is suppose to be a cunning/clever master sleuth. Part of not having super powers means having to outsmart his opponents who are usually evil geniuses in their own right. Likewise, he usually has to spend time trying to determine the true motives of his adversaries by gathering clues from various crimes etc. The Joker is his arch-nemesis because he has no motives. He simply loves chaos. This may have touched on briefly in "TDK", except its Michael Caine who realizes that Joker doesnt want anything except anarchy, not Batman. He has to be TOLD by his "wiser, older butler" which turns batman into a "dumb Tony Stark".

Likewise, Batman is outsmarted by the Joker in the entire film. He lets himself get captured, escapes from jail, kills batman's girlfriend, turns Dent into a bad guy etc. If "Deebo" from Friday blows up the other Ferry full of civilians (which would have happened in real life), the Joker would have been successful at pretty much everything because hes so much more fucking clever than "Batman".

Dont even get me started on that ridiculous raspy voice. Did someone tell Nolan that Batman would make awesome parody material if you gave him a comically stupid voice? Instead of sticking to known character traits, lets give him a stupid voice! Let make him as un-cool as we possibly can!

So yeah, Im not a fan of Nolan and Im bewildered by "Nolanites".

There STILL has yet to be a definitive Batman the way Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman. They could have cast someone complete different for "The dark knight rises" and it wouldnt matter because theres NOTHING memorable from Christian Bale's portrayal of Wayne/Batman.

Imagine recasting Iron Man with someone besides Robert Downey Junior. You cant because his persona and quirks helped define the character.

Nolans films focus more on plot than characters.

[CuckingFunt]

Dont even get me started on that ridiculous raspy voice. Did someone tell Nolan that Batman would make awesome parody material if you gave him a comically stupid voice? Instead of sticking to known character traits, lets give him a stupid voice! Let make him as un-cool as we possibly can!

I think Bale oversells the raspy voice a tad, but the use of two different voices for Bruce Wayne and Batman goes back to Kevin Conroy's voicing of the character in B:TAS. For someone interested in character development, it seems odd you would single that out as a negative. Silly or not, it makes perfect sense that a well-known public figure would want to disguise their recognizable voice when adopting a new persona. You don't have to like it, but it's more obviously a character tick than a Nolan tick.

[da_suns_fan]

I think Bale oversells the raspy voice a tad, but the use of two different voices for Bruce Wayne and Batman goes back to Kevin Conroy's voicing of the character in B:TAS. For someone interested in character development, it seems odd you would single that out as a negative. Silly or not, it makes perfect sense that a well-known public figure would want to disguise their recognizable voice when adopting a new persona. You don't have to like it, but it's more obviously a character tick than a Nolan tick.

Superman and Clark Kent had different speech patterns/tones in their voice without being clownish.

Kevin Conroy's "dual voices" in the animated series was superb. Took his voice down a notch when he was batman.

Bale's raspy voice is so fucking over-the-top its distracting to what he's actually saying. Whats really sad is all the cartoon parodies are spot on with the stupid voice.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Okay, differences between Nolan's batman vs comic batman:

1) Batman is suppose to be traumatized/haunted by the death of his parents. So much so that he has become obsessed with fighting crime. He's dark and twisted in his own right, hence the name "the dark knight". He could never "quit" the way Nolan's batman wants to quit. The idea that batman could go and have a normal life someday is completely against the character. Yet Nolan's batman spends half the movie wishing he could get with Maggie Gylehall and let Dent keep the city safe which is fucking stupid.

2) Batman is suppose to be cynical. He doesnt even trust Superman (keeps his own supply of kryptonite...just in case). He has his own dark side and thus believes everyone has a dark side. But we're suppose to believe he's gonna let a politician "be the new hero"?!!

3) Batman is suppose to be a cunning/clever master sleuth. Part of not having super powers means having to outsmart his opponents who are usually evil geniuses in their own right. Likewise, he usually has to spend time trying to determine the true motives of his adversaries by gathering clues from various crimes etc. The Joker is his arch-nemesis because he has no motives. He simply loves chaos. This may have touched on briefly in "TDK", except its Michael Caine who realizes that Joker doesnt want anything except anarchy, not Batman. He has to be TOLD by his "wiser, older butler" which turns batman into a "dumb Tony Stark".

Likewise, Batman is outsmarted by the Joker in the entire film. He lets himself get captured, escapes from jail, kills batman's girlfriend, turns Dent into a bad guy etc. If "Deebo" from Friday blows up the other Ferry full of civilians (which would have happened in real life), the Joker would have been successful at pretty much everything because hes so much more fucking clever than "Batman".

Dont even get me started on that ridiculous raspy voice. Did someone tell Nolan that Batman would make awesome parody material if you gave him a comically stupid voice? Instead of sticking to known character traits, lets give him a stupid voice! Let make him as un-cool as we possibly can!

So yeah, Im not a fan of Nolan and Im bewildered by "Nolanites".

There STILL has yet to be a definitive Batman the way Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman. They could have cast someone complete different for "The dark knight rises" and it wouldnt matter because theres NOTHING memorable from Christian Bale's portrayal of Wayne/Batman.

Imagine recasting Iron Man with someone besides Robert Downey Junior. You cant because his persona and quirks helped define the character.

Nolans films focus more on plot than characters.
ha, this guy is awesome

[redzero]

Okay, differences between Nolan's batman vs comic batman:

1) Batman is suppose to be traumatized/haunted by the death of his parents. So much so that he has become obsessed with fighting crime. He's dark and twisted in his own right, hence the name "the dark knight". He could never "quit" the way Nolan's batman wants to quit. The idea that batman could go and have a normal life someday is completely against the character. Yet Nolan's batman spends half the movie wishing he could get with Maggie Gylehall and let Dent keep the city safe which is fucking stupid.

This saga is supposed to END. There is closure. It was never this Batman's intention to fight crime forever because this is not the comics Batman. You seem to think that there is only one way to portray the character, and that simply isn't true.


2) Batman is suppose to be cynical. He doesnt even trust Superman (keeps his own supply of kryptonite...just in case). He has his own dark side and thus believes everyone has a dark side. But we're suppose to believe he's gonna let a politician "be the new hero"?!!

Batman trusted Dent during The Long Halloween. Batman has trusted several regular people over the years. Again, this goes back to your desire for Batman to fight crime forever. Nolan's Batman new from the beginning that that was never going to happen, so he looked for somebody the people could get behind. He looked for somebody who stood for what he stood for. He thought he found it in Dent, but he was wrong.


3) Batman is suppose to be a cunning/clever master sleuth. Part of not having super powers means having to outsmart his opponents who are usually evil geniuses in their own right. Likewise, he usually has to spend time trying to determine the true motives of his adversaries by gathering clues from various crimes etc. The Joker is his arch-nemesis because he has no motives. He simply loves chaos. This may have touched on briefly in "TDK", except its Michael Caine who realizes that Joker doesnt want anything except anarchy, not Batman. He has to be TOLD by his "wiser, older butler" which turns batman into a "dumb Tony Stark".

1.). Movie Tony Stark never even faced anybody like the Joker from a motive standpoint, so bringing him up is asinine.
2.). Movie Batman was fighting crime for six months before the Joker came. He had no experience with somebody like him, and it shows when he assumes the Joker was only out for money. Why are you expecting Batman to magically know how to deal with the Joker when all he faced up until that point were thugs and gangsters?


Likewise, Batman is outsmarted by the Joker in the entire film. He lets himself get captured, escapes from jail, kills batman's girlfriend, turns Dent into a bad guy etc. If "Deebo" from Friday blows up the other Ferry full of civilians (which would have happened in real life), the Joker would have been successful at pretty much everything because hes so much more fucking clever than "Batman".

See my above response. Batman was in a learning phase. He did, however, defeat the Joker by doing something Batman-esque. He used the sonar machine, and spied on everybody in Gotham.


Dont even get me started on that ridiculous raspy voice. Did someone tell Nolan that Batman would make awesome parody material if you gave him a comically stupid voice? Instead of sticking to known character traits, lets give him a stupid voice! Let make him as un-cool as we possibly can!

I agree that the voice is bad.


So yeah, Im not a fan of Nolan and Im bewildered by "Nolanites".

There STILL has yet to be a definitive Batman the way Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman. They could have cast someone complete different for "The dark knight rises" and it wouldnt matter because theres NOTHING memorable from Christian Bale's portrayal of Wayne/Batman.

Imagine recasting Iron Man with someone besides Robert Downey Junior. You cant because his persona and quirks helped define the character.

Nolans films focus more on plot than characters.

Your complaints are the same "not my Batman" bullshit that's be said a million times before. You complain about Nolan's Batman having no personality, but you can't even describe Batman's personality.

[Muser]

Nolan's Batman is different to the comic book Batman? How awful! How dare Nolan do a fresh take on an old story.

[da_suns_fan]

Your complaints are the same "not my Batman" bullshit that's be said a million times before. You complain about Nolan's Batman having no personality, but you can't even describe Batman's personality.

I just did. You, however, ignored them because youre a Nolan apologist.

Obsessive. Haunted. Clever. Intelligent. Driven.

Theres five characteristics of Batman that Bale/Nolan dont convey. In fact, i cant think of any characteristic of the Bale/Nolan batman other than "raspy voice".

[da_suns_fan]

Nolan's Batman is different to the comic book Batman? How awful! How dare Nolan do a fresh take on an old story.

I have NO PROBLEM with a fresh take on the story.

I have a problem with the character of Batman being nothing more than a rich guy in a costume.

[da_suns_fan]

Movie Batman was fighting crime for six months before the Joker came. He had no experience with somebody like him, and it shows when he assumes the Joker was only out for money. Why are you expecting Batman to magically know how to deal with the Joker when all he faced up until that point were thugs and gangsters?
.

:rolleyes

Because Batman is suppose to be obsessive and intelligent. After long, careful examination, Batman should realize that the Joker just loves causing anarchy and he should be explaining it to Alfred, not the other way around.

The films gets the scene backwards and fucks up the character.

[redzero]

Obsessive.

First Bruce-Alfred scene in The Dark Knight.


Haunted.

Scene after Rachel died with Alfred in The Dark Knight. Scenes of Bruce before he became Batman in Batman Begins.
Clever. Intelligent.

Sonar part of The Dark Knight, and finding the fingerprint on the bullet (as silly as that is) in the same movie.


Driven.

Fighting crime for six straight months does not show how driven he is? Taking the fall for Dent's crimes because he wants Gotham to have a hero, does not show dedication?


Theres five characteristics of Batman that Bale/Nolan dont convey. In fact, i cant think of any characteristic of the Bale/Nolan batman other than "raspy voice".

Completely false.

[redzero]

:rolleyes

Because Batman is suppose to be obsessive and intelligent. After long, careful examination, Batman should realize that the Joker just loves causing anarchy and he should be explaining it to Alfred, not the other way around.

The films gets the scene backwards and fucks up the character.

:lol What a dumb complaint. Heaven forbid a rookie Batman doesn't know how to handle every situation that is thrown at him on a moment's notice. Sorry that Nolan's Batman isn't a Mary Sue who doesn't need to learn anything.

[Clipper Nation]

:rolleyes

Because Batman is suppose to be obsessive and intelligent. After long, careful examination, Batman should realize that the Joker just loves causing anarchy and he should be explaining it to Alfred, not the other way around.

The films gets the scene backwards and fucks up the character.

If Batman already knew everything, that would be one boring-ass (and short) movie, tbh....

[da_suns_fan]

I didnt think Keaton was a great Batman, but he was decent. He at least established a character.

Intelligent: Keaton's batman cracked the Joker's "Death by makeup" code. He also uncovers that Max Shrek (Christopher Walken) was lying about the need for more energy for Gotham.

Obsessive: He struggles to have a relationship with Kim Basinger because he cant stop being who he is. In the second flim, he obsessed over the Penguin while the penguin pretended to be a poor orphan trying to find his parents. Alfred calls him out on it and Batman dismisses his criticism.

Frightening: In the opening scene of Batman, one thug is dangled over a roof-top and then allowed to let go. Batman scares the shit out of him and then tells him to "Tell all your friends about me". He likes to haunt his enemies they way they haunt him. This is WHY he wears the gothic costume.

Clever: Batman uses the Penguins audio against him in the Penguins big speech: I played this city like a harp from hell!!

Now...how did Bale/Nolan convey those same characteristics?

[redzero]

If Batman already knew everything, that would be one boring-ass (and short) movie, tbh....

Exactly. Where would the tension be if Bruce knew how to deal with everything by himself, especially after only being around for a few months?

[Ginobilly]

Everybody just admit that you'll like it and are going to watch it. The haters talk about this movie so much that they should stop pretending that they hate it. I already ragged on my cousin(who is one of the biggest nolan haters and Tim Burton version lover) for buying advance tickets. His excuse: Cause my chick is a Bale/Hardy fan:lol I'm a big Batman fan, but I ain't gonna spend 16 dollars at the Imax. I'm catching the mantinee first showing at Santikos where you only pay 5 bucks:lol I'm gonna blaze some dro before I go:hat

[da_suns_fan]

Sonar part of The Dark Knight, and finding the fingerprint on the bullet (as silly as that is) in the same movie.


:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

Batman came up with the sonar tool? Using the sonar tool that Morgan Freeman showed him makes him no more intelligent than using the "tumbler".

[da_suns_fan]

Exactly. Where would the tension be if Bruce knew how to deal with everything by himself, especially after only being around for a few months?

He isnt suppose to know everything, he's suppose to obsess and discover. Not just "ask alfred" and have everything explained to him.

Again, they made him dumb.

[CubanSucks]

:lmao da suns fan pissed that he's the only one who can't enjoy it


I'm gonna blaze some dro before I go:hat

a waste of weed imo. I wouldn't be able to enjoy the movie or the dro, then again I can't be in public high without anxiety

[redzero]

Already posted examples of Nolan's Batman portraying those characteristics. For the fear part, Nolan's Batman does the stalking in the shadows and the high-altitude interrogation. One of the great things about The Dark Knight is the criminals realizing that Batman does have a code, and that he can't be more intimidating than the Joker, who does whatever he wants.

[CubanSucks]

Using the sonar tool that Morgan Freeman showed him makes him no more intelligent than using the "tumbler".

Now the butthurt is obvious

[redzero]

Batman modified the sonar and spied on everybody in Gotham. Even Fox was impressed.

And Alfred doesn't tell him how to do everything. Batman still had to LEARN, which probably upsets you because you want him to be boringly perfect.

Do you have any legitimate complaints besides the bat voice?

[Ginobilly]

Clooney turned 36 the year Batman & Robin came out.

And, incidentally, Clooney would make a fucking awesome 50-year-old Batman. If they were to ever make a Batman film using Frank Miller's work as the source material and go with his older, grizzled, cynical, completely over it Batman, Clooney would be the perfect choice.



But, yeah, Shumacher Batman is painful bad.

Clooney just looked too old and not athletic enough to play Batman in 97. Maybe if he got into the weight room with Hardy he could pull off Frank Miller's version. If they ever need a Robin. The kid from the new Spiderman could pull off Robin better than Chris.

[da_suns_fan]

Batman modified the sonar and spied on everybody in Gotham. Even Fox was impressed.

And Alfred doesn't tell him how to do everything. Batman still had to LEARN, which probably upsets you because you want him to be boringly perfect.

Do you have any legitimate complaints besides the bat voice?

You might be right on that point, I didnt remember that part.

You can dismiss my complaints all you want, but so far you have:

1) Failed to give me any character trait of Nolans batman. In fact, you asked me to give what batman is SUPPOSE to be since you had no idea from watching the first two films.

2) Dismissed every "accepted character trait" of Batman. He's not allowed to be batman because hes "a rookie batman". I reject that narrative. I think its just bad writing.

[da_suns_fan]

I didnt think Keaton was a great Batman, but he was decent. He at least established a character.

Intelligent: Keaton's batman cracked the Joker's "Death by makeup" code. He also uncovers that Max Shrek (Christopher Walken) was lying about the need for more energy for Gotham.

Obsessive: He struggles to have a relationship with Kim Basinger because he cant stop being who he is. In the second flim, he obsessed over the Penguin while the penguin pretended to be a poor orphan trying to find his parents. Alfred calls him out on it and Batman dismisses his criticism.

Frightening: In the opening scene of Batman, one thug is dangled over a roof-top and then allowed to let go. Batman scares the shit out of him and then tells him to "Tell all your friends about me". He likes to haunt his enemies they way they haunt him. This is WHY he wears the gothic costume.

Clever: Batman uses the Penguins audio against him in the Penguins big speech: I played this city like a harp from hell!!

Now...how did Bale/Nolan convey those same characteristics?

Again, I ask you to answer the question above using the examples i provided as a template.

When does Bale obsess? When is he clever? When is he intelligent? When is he frightening?

[da_suns_fan]

More Keaton/Batman character exmples:

Clever: Alters the little penguins with attached rockets homing frequency to lure them back to the Penguins lair.

Frightening: Drops Jack Nicholson into a vat of chemicals to teach criminals a lesson.

Obsessive: Catwoman turns down his offer to basically run away with him because she points out that they cant stop being who they are.

Those films had their own flaws, but one them was NOT establishing strong characters.

Bale's Batman is not a strong character. Sorry, you cant convince me because ive seen the films. Again, Nolan's films focus more on story than characters. His Batman is nothing more than a rich guy in a suit.

[redzero]

1) Failed to give me any character trait of Nolans batman. In fact, you asked me to give what batman is SUPPOSE to be since you had no idea from watching the first two films.]

:lol Congratulations on being able to say that Batman is intelligent and driven. :lol Real insightful.

I asked you to describe Batman's character because you were the one who acted like an authority on the matter. Every adjective you used could be applied to Nolan's Batman. Every single one.


2) Dismissed every "accepted character trait" of Batman. He's not allowed to be batman because hes "a rookie batman". I reject that narrative. I think its just bad writing.

Yes, that's bad writing. Even though Bruce's mentor taught him that criminals are simple in Batman Begins, it would be bad writing for him to still hold that belief in The Dark Knight.

An example of good writing would be Bruce dropping what he learned and instantly knowing what to when dealing with the Joker without having any experience in the matter. Why should he need advice from an experienced old man? He's been on the job for six whole months! He should know how to deal with everything by now!

You should be a writer for the next Batman. You clearly know about what makes a compelling story.

[redzero]

Again, I ask you to answer the question above using the examples i provided as a template.

When does Bale obsess? When is he clever? When is he intelligent? When is he frightening?

I already did provide examples. Stop ignoring my posts.

[da_suns_fan]

Why should he need advice from an experienced old man? He's been on the job for six whole months! He should know how to deal with everything by now!

You should be a writer for the next Batman. You clearly know about what makes a compelling story.

Alfred isnt suppose to be "experienced" with fighting crime. Most butlers arent. Instead of being a faithful servant, Nolan wanted Alfred to be more intellectual.

Thats fine, but no need to make Batman clueless. It would have been much more true to the characters to have Batman uncover the mysteries of the joker since Batman is suppose to be kind of "messed up" as well.

btw - To say that "criminals are simple" goes against EVERYTHING that makes the Batman story unique!! Dont believe me?

Quick: Name three Superman villains. Or Spiderman villains.

Now name six batman villains.

Batman KNOWS that criminals are not simple, thats why he fucking obsesses over them!

[da_suns_fan]

I already did provide examples. Stop ignoring my posts.

Nonsense. Youre example of "Obsessive" was

"First Bruce-Alfred scene in The Dark Knight."

You'll have to be a little more descriptive.

[redzero]

For the millionth time, it was a learning process. He just started being Batman. Ignoring that huge fact doesn't make it go away. Nolan's Batman faced Scarecrow, the League of Shadows, and mobsters before meeting the Joker.

You want Batman to know how to deal with super villains without any experience with them. That is bad writing. There is no development at all. There is no suspense.

[da_suns_fan]

I think Ive beat this dead horse to death.

Ive used several examples from the first two burton films to show the characteristics/personality of "Batman". This was done so well Fox used a carbon copy of the character for their 90s cartoon.

I dont even consider Bale's character "Batman". His characteristic dont exist. Hes just a rich dude in a suit fighting crime who would rather just QUIT if he could. Sorry, but I was thoroughly unimpressed with your defense. About as unimpressed with Nolan's movies.

[redzero]

Nonsense. Youre example of "Obsessive" was

"First Bruce-Alfred scene in The Dark Knight."

You'll have to be a little more descriptive.

The "know your limits" scene where Bruce's shirt is off and all of his bruises are shown. He also was sewing his own wounds, which takes some dedication.

[redzero]

Sorry that Batman in Nolan's movies isn't perfect at everything. Sorry that he had to learn.

Nothing is more compelling than somebody who is great at everything and doesn't make mistakes.

[da_suns_fan]

For the millionth time, it was a learning process. He just started being Batman. Ignoring that huge fact doesn't make it go away. Nolan's Batman faced Scarecrow, the League of Shadows, and mobsters before meeting the Joker.

You want Batman to know how to deal with super villains without any experience with them. That is bad writing. There is no development at all. There is no suspense.

Thats what you dont get. He didnt learn shit except to ask his fucking butler!!! Hes SUPPOSE to obsess and come to the conclusion on his own.

Nolan doesnt want to waste time developing characters so he has Wayne just ask Alfred.

Bad. Writing.

[da_suns_fan]

The "know your limits" scene where Bruce's shirt is off and all of his bruises are shown. He also was sewing his own wounds, which takes some dedication.

That scene was meant to convey that Bruce is getting beat up and one of the reasons as to why Bruce wants to QUIT BEING BATMAN!

Thats not an example of "obsessiveness." Its meant to gain audience sympathy for why Bruce wants to quit.

[redzero]

Thats what you dont get. He didnt learn shit except to ask his fucking butler!!! Hes SUPPOSE to obsess and come to the conclusion on his own.

Nolan doesnt want to waste time developing characters so he has Wayne
just ask Alfred..

Bad. Writing.

:lmao Batman gets help from others all the time. And it's not like this version ran straight to Alfred and asked him what to do.

:lol Wanting a boring, perfect Batman.

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao Batman gets help from others all the time. And it's not like this version ran straight to Alfred and asked him what to do.

:lol Wanting a boring, perfect Batman.

No..wanting a clever, obsessive, mysterious batman.

[redzero]

That scene was meant to convey that Bruce is getting beat up and one of the reasons as to why Bruce wants to QUIT BEING BATMAN!

Thats not an example of "obsessiveness." Its meant to gain audience sympathy for why Bruce wants to quit.

:rollin How is that an either or situation? The scene shows how Bruce's OBSESSIVE crime fighting was taking a toll on his body. To claim otherwise would be to lie.

[redzero]

No..wanting a clever, obsessive, mysterious batman.

:lol being perfect at everything = mysterious somehow

[da_suns_fan]

:rollin How is that an either or situation? The scene shows how Bruce's OBSESSIVE crime fighting was taking a toll on his body. To claim otherwise would be to lie.

You could make a case that this is an example of Batman being "driven". But not "obsessive".

If he was obsessive, he wouldnt be trying to quit. In fact, thats just the opposite.

[redzero]

No, one cannot make a case for that. He wanted to quit AND he had and obsessive drive to rid Gotham of crime.

Try again.

[da_suns_fan]

:lol being perfect at everything = mysterious somehow

Keaton's batman is extremely mysterious. Theres several times (especially with scenes with the Joker and Catwoman) in which youre not sure what his character is going to do or handle a situation. He kills the joker, spares max shrek, semi-kills the penguin, asks cat-woman to run away with him etc.

Likewise, theres additional mystery surrounding the back story of his character because everything from his car to how many cowls he buys isnt explained to death like in Nolan's films.

Maybe thats because Nolan wanted a true "origin" story but whatever.

[redzero]

Yeah, consistency is lame. Batman should behave erra--I mean, mysteriously.

[CubanSucks]

Maybe thats because Nolan wanted a true "origin" story but whatever.

DING DING DING!!!! Ever wonder why the first movie is Batman Begins? It took you this many posts to realize this? You've probably typed the words Burton and Keaton about 100 times before finally realizing these are supposed to be different movies. You're jizzing your pants WAAAAY too much over mystery

[monosylab1k]

After all this time DSF still enjoys becoming a forum jizz rag. It's good to know some things never change :lol

[da_suns_fan]

After all this time DSF still enjoys becoming a forum jizz rag. It's good to know some things never change :lol

Youre such a tool.

[stretch]

Has that motherfucker DSF learned how to capitalize his O's?

[monosylab1k]

Youre such a tool.

And you just got shit on by CubanSucks in this thread. Do you realize just what an obtuse little cheesedick you have to be for CubanSucks to dominate you on an intellectual level? lol arizona state educated moron.

[Death In June]

So far, reviews seem to set it above Batman Begins, but below TDK. 94% on rotten tomatoes.

[da_suns_fan]

And you just got shit on by CubanSucks in this thread. Do you realize just what an obtuse little cheesedick you have to be for CubanSucks to dominate you on an intellectual level? lol arizona state educated moron.

Your bitterness is astounding.

Have you managed to find that quote from "Seven seconds or less" where it says Amare developed a jump shot during his micro-fracture rehab?

Still waiting..years later.

Of course, that was a distant second to when you changed that Al Capone quote! :lol

Btw - I wasnt really even debating "CubanSucks". I was debating Redzero.

Seriously, how can you be so stupid? You own yourself.

[lefty]

Richard Corliss of Time Magazine wrote:
For once a melodrama with pulp origins convinces viewers that it can be the modern equivalent to Greek myths or a Jonathan Swift satire. TDKR is that big, that bitter -- a film of grand ambitions and epic achievement.

Peter Travers of Rolling Stone wrote:
The sheer scope of Nolan's vision – with emotion and spectacle thundering across the screen – is staggering. The Dark Knight Rises is the King Daddy of summer movie epics.


Todd McCarthy of The Hollywood Reporter wrote:
The best of the Nolan series. Big-time Hollywood filmmaking at its most massively accomplished, this last installment of Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy makes everything in the rival Marvel universe look thoroughly silly and childish.

The Daily Telegraph wrote:
After a breathless, bravura final act, a nuclear payload of catharsis brings The Dark Knight Rises, and Nolan's trilogy, to a ferociously satisfying close.

Justin Chang of Variety wrote:
This hugely ambitious action-drama retains the moral urgency and serious-minded pulp instincts that have made the Warners franchise a beacon of integrity in an increasingly comicbook-driven Hollywood universe. Global B.O. domination awaits.


Show Stopping. Dazzling. Epic. Brilliant. A masterpiece.

Every single actor is being highly praised as well. Bane is a badass, Hathaway surpasses Michelle Pfeifer, Oldman kills it, Joseph Gordon Lovets surprisingly big role is top notch, Bale is superb as always, but its MICHAEL CAINE's old Alfred which is said to be garnering the Oscar buzz.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

My only real complaint about the first two Batman movies is both movies involve crooked cops and gangsters yet you don't hear fuck once because they wanted the PG-13 rating. I understand a superhero movie isn't gonna be perfectly "realistic" but that's the type of unrealistic I find stupid.

[CubanSucks]

My only real complaint about the first two Batman movies is both movies involve crooked cops and gangsters yet you don't hear fuck once because they wanted the PG-13 rating. I understand a superhero movie isn't gonna be perfectly "realistic" but that's the type of unrealistic I find stupid.

you're seriously complaining because they don't cuss enough? Are you 16 yrs old?

[monosylab1k]

Your bitterness is astounding.

Have you managed to find that quote from "Seven seconds or less" where it says Amare developed a jump shot during his micro-fracture rehab?

Still waiting..years later.

Of course, that was a distant second to when you changed that Al Capone quote! :lol

Btw - I wasnt really even debating "CubanSucks". I was debating Redzero.

Seriously, how can you be so stupid? You own yourself.

rofl good to know i turned your balloon knot into such a gaping wide hole that you still remember shit i did years ago :lmao

[ace3g]

I wonder if certain "individuals" are getting worried about the some of the reviews this movie is getting. There was so much hype around TDK it was bound to get a lot of positive reviews. It seems like now that "critics" have been able to take a step back and a deep breath from TDK, the reviews for this film will be more down to earth. That isn't a bad thing though. Just don't expect RT or other review sites to have a consensus 90% positive review for the film.

[Spurtacus]

So far, reviews seem to set it above Batman Begins, but below TDK. 94% on rotten tomatoes.

Looks like it may fall below Batman Begins on the tomatometer but doesn't necessarily mean it will be worse. The critic rating is currently 8.7/10 which is higher than its predecessors.

[Death In June]

I don't expect it to be better than either of the previous two films. What little I've seen so far looks bad. Dialogue is painful. The tone is strange. Dumb villain/new character choices.

[lefty]

I don't expect it to be better than either of the previous two films. What little I've seen so far looks bad. Dialogue is painful. The tone is strange. Dumb villain/new character choices.

:lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

wtf is up with that one preview where they are just talking about the lack of in Bruce's knee

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This movie better make me want to high five everyone around me as I walk outside the theater or I will be pissed I spent this money and will wait so long in line

[DPG21920]

Early reviews definitely seem good, but that it couldn't quite grasp the levels of TDK. Don't know whether to be disappointed or still have high expectations. Seeing it on Saturday.

[Spurtacus]

Early reviews definitely seem good, but that it couldn't quite grasp the levels of TDK. Don't know whether to be disappointed or still have high expectations. Seeing it on Saturday.

Just have expectations that it will be a great film and fitting end to Nolan's Batman trilogy. It doesn't need to be better than TDK for me to enjoy the film.

[Spurtacus]

RT disabled user comments for critic reviews :lol

[The Reckoning]

im going to see it tomorrow in adelaide.

will come back and post all spoilers so lefty will off himself...brb

[The Reckoning]

btw batman begins was TONS better than dark knight imo

[redzero]

btw batman begins was TONS better than dark knight imo

Yeah, besides the characters, action, acting, and plot, Begins was definitely a better movie.

Begins might be a better "Batman movie," but it is no way near The Dark Knight's quality overall.

[The Reckoning]

Yeah, besides the characters, action, acting, and plot, Begins was definitely a better movie.

Begins might be a better "Batman movie," but it is no way near The Dark Knight's quality overall.


the premises of the move was much better and more philosophical. it was about getting into bruce wayne's head and trying to explain why a man would go through such a ridiculous transition. it made batman real imo.

dark knight was a great follow up - it had the action, "do something cool, batman!" moments and clever scripting, but begins is a much more personal movie. plus liam neeson brought his A-game in that movie.

i've been a huge batman fan since i was a little kid, so maybe begins appeals more to the longterm fans.

[lefty]

20/10 tbh

[DAF86]

This movie better make me want to high five everyone around me as I walk outside the theater or I will be pissed I spent this money and will wait so long in line

Do you really go around "high fiving" people?

[peewee's_lovechild]

Do you really go around "high fiving" people?

why the fuck not? it's so badass to do that! i did that after leaving The Dark Knight theater! Then afterwards I made a few fart jokes and jacked it to a pic of a girl with big chest cannons! It was so cool!

[scanry]

Can't wait. I have tickets for Monday.

BTW where does Chris Nolan go on from here. He takes way too long to make a film. Last i heard is that he's supervising (or more like baby sitting Zack Synder's) "Man of Steel"

I don't think he has made a bad film yet. :wow

[Darth_Pelican]

Positive reviews from most of the top critics

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight_rises/

Seeing it at midnight opening tomorrow. Can't wait.

I'm glad Nolan chose against 3D. If the franchise didn't start in 3D, then there is no reason to add it.

[redzero]

3D is almost always pointless.

[CuckingFunt]

Nolan is pretty staunchly anti-3D and unnecessary CGI. And anti-digital. He's hitched his wagon to IMAX's 70mm film as being the tech innovation we should be following, and has done so quite vocally. Which is awesome. But there's no question The Dark Knight Rises, and probably also The Dark Knight, would be in 3D if it was up to the studio.

[Ginobilly]

Nolan is pretty staunchly anti-3D and unnecessary CGI. And anti-digital. He's hitched his wagon to IMAX's 70mm film as being the tech innovation we should be following, and has done so quite vocally. Which is awesome. But there's no question The Dark Knight Rises, and probably also The Dark Knight, would be in 3D if it was up to the studio.

Nolan is pretty much against tech. Guy doesn't own a cell phone, laptop, email address. You want to get a hold of him? You better hope he's in his office writing the next script and his land-line phone is next to him. He says it gives him more time to think. The most wealthy man on Earth(Carlos Slim) is the same way. He just carries a notepad and pen with him at all times to write down equations and notes. I agree, 3D is fuckin garbage. It doesn't really add much to movie except for headaches and more wasted money. You can't even tell the difference at times. They should just keep 3d for fantasy and cgi based films for kids.

[da_suns_fan]

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The aggregating Web site RottenTomatoes.com suspended user comments on movie reviews of "The Dark Knight Rises" after commenters reacted harshly to negative reviews of the film and made profane and threatening remarks about the critics who wrote them.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Mav Fan.

So enamored with Nolan and DiCaprio.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Lol lefty probably on the FBI watch list....afta det one

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Only 86% on RT.
Negative reviews seem to imply the movie is pretentious to the point of distraction.

If I'm not high fiving little kids and nerds after this thing I don't know what I'll do

[lefty]

Lol lefty probably on the FBI watch list....afta det one
:lol

[DPG21920]

I really wanted to do the marathon tomorrow, but decided to pass.

[DPG21920]

I have to stop reading RT. It's kind of depressing, it's like every one likes it but still feels let down. Hopefully catwoman is not to blame.

[SA210]

I really wanted to do the marathon tomorrow, but decided to pass.

Damnit, so did I! I was debating over and over again whether to do the marathon, and just before coming into this thread I purchased only the midnight showing tickets.

:bang

lol Oh well, I have something to really look forward to. The Man of Steel teaser is supposed to premiere at the Dark Knight Rises screenings, and from the leaked trailer I saw, it finally seems like a reboot to Superman is gonna be frickin BADASS! They used the theme to The Thin Red Line for the Man Of Steel teaser, seems fuckin EPIC. It better not let me down.

Ok, back to Batman lol

[lefty]

I have to stop reading RT. It's kind of depressing, it's like every one likes it but still feels let down. Hopefully catwoman is not to blame.

I didnt expect a shitload of 100% positive reviews, considering a lot of movie critics are not that familiar with Bane, as opposed to the Joker

Comic book website are more relevant to review a movie such as TDKR

Oh and by the way, Nolan is co-directing Man of Steel

Writer is Goyer, who worked on TDK trilogy

[Spurtacus]

Can't wait. I have tickets for Monday.

BTW where does Chris Nolan go on from here. He takes way too long to make a film. Last i heard is that he's supervising (or more like baby sitting Zack Synder's) "Man of Steel"

I don't think he has made a bad film yet. :wow

Two years to make a movie is not a long time. Inception was 2010 Dark Knight 2008. Prestige 2006. Batman begins 2005.

[SA210]

Oh and by the way, Nolan is co-directing Man of Steel

Writer is Goyer, who worked on TDK trilogy

Nolan is producing not directing, as far as I know.

[monosylab1k]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Mav Fan.

So enamored with Nolan and DiCaprio.

:lol Sun fan.

Thinks professing his love of Mad Men will show how cultured he is.

"I really love this show that everybody on earth likes! How awesome am I!"

[monosylab1k]

Nolan and Snyder collaborating seems like a really bad choice. One guy hates 3D and CGI and does anything in his power to avoid it, the other guy is borderline Lucasesque in his love for it.

[lefty]

Nolan is producing not directing, as far as I know.

Producing and co- directing

But I'm not sure now

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I really wanted to do the marathon tomorrow, but decided to pass.

Just do a marathon at home
That's what we did, last Saturday

[Venti Quattro]

They closed the TDKR Rotten Tomatoes comment section because reviewers were getting death threats. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[lefty]

They closed the TDKR Rotten Tomatoes comment section because reviewers were getting death threats. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Already posted TBH

[Venti Quattro]

Already posted TBH

I'm so three thousand and late :lol :lol :lol

I am avoiding back-reading for fear of spoilers.

[Venti Quattro]

Has this been posted? Some street art in Madrid.

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Dark-Knight-Rises-Street-Art-Madrid-550x825.jpg

[lefty]

nice

Messi dropped by in madrid

[monosylab1k]

They closed the TDKR Rotten Tomatoes comment section because reviewers were getting death threats. :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

:lol although from what story i read, most ppl making the "threats" were trolling and quoting Bane lines, telling the reviewer his " punishment must be more severe" or that he has their "permission to die".

[CubanSucks]

I wanna check in on this thread but there was too much talk about spoilers and reviews. I already haven't looked in here in days and that'll continue till probably Sunday. Me and the homeboys already got our tickets for tomorrow night 10:30..actually we got them a couple weeks ago

see yall on the other side

[Ginobilly]

It's really funny seeing those critics give TDKR 2 star reviews.:lmao I think some of them did it so to get their names known. I suspect that they secretly love TDKR like every hater out there that doesn't want to admit it.

[CitizenDwayne]

It's really funny seeing those critics give TDKR 2 star reviews.:lmao I think some of them did it so to get their names known. I suspect that they secretly love TDKR like every hater out there that doesn't want to admit it.

Whatever their motives, they sure succeeded in pissing off a lot of butthurt retards.

Don't understand why people are getting in such a frenzy over this.

86%, while lower than The Dark Knight, is still a damn good score.

Batman fans (or Nolan fans) seem to have some obsession with overall opinion of their beloved films, as a few years ago when The Dark Knight was released, there was an "IMDB war" between fans of the Dark Knight and fans of other films (Shawshank Redemption, Godfather 1/2, Good/Bad/Ugly).

I will watch the film, and I except to enjoy it. But any critical reviews I will take with a grain of salt, and I would suggest the same.

[da_suns_fan]

Whatever their motives, they sure succeeded in pissing off a lot of butthurt retards.

Don't understand why people are getting in such a frenzy over this.

86%, while lower than The Dark Knight, is still a damn good score.

Batman fans (or Nolan fans) seem to have some obsession with overall opinion of their beloved films, as a few years ago when The Dark Knight was released, there was an "IMDB war" between fans of the Dark Knight and fans of other films (Shawshank Redemption, Godfather 1/2, Good/Bad/Ugly).

I will watch the film, and I except to enjoy it. But any critical reviews I will take with a grain of salt, and I would suggest the same.

Tell me youre fucking joking.

I, too, will watch and expect to enjoy the film. But I shake my head in disbelief at "Nolanites".

"They dont drink the sand because theyre thirsty, they drink the sand because they dont know the difference."

- Aaron Sorkin, The American President

[CitizenDwayne]

Tell me youre fucking joking.

I, too, will watch and expect to enjoy the film. But I shake my head in disbelief at "Nolanites".

"They dont drink the sand because theyre thirsty, they drink the sand because they dont know the difference."

- Aaron Sorkin, The American President
Sadly it is true. The Dark Knight became the #1 rated film on IMDB with 50,000 votes BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED. This upset fans of The Godfather in particular, and a war ensued, with everyone voting their own film a 10 and the other a 1, basically.

http://techitloud.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/dark-knight-fanboys-vs-godfather-fanboys/

It has since fallen to #8, behind The Shawshank Redemption, The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Pulp Fiction, The Good the bad and the Ugly, 12 Angry Men and Schindler's List.

[da_suns_fan]

:lol Sun fan.

Thinks professing his love of Mad Men will show how cultured he is.

"I really love this show that everybody on earth likes! How awesome am I!"

I said Don Draper is closer to the character of "Batman" than whatever Nolan/Bale are trying to do.

I do like Mad Men, but that doesnt make me awesome. Im AWESOME because I exposed what a coward you are when I uncovered that you altered a quote from "07 seconds or less" to try and hide the fact that you fucked up.

In an EPIC twist of irony, it was your own sig that exposed your lie.

Maybe I should have been a journalist. It was so much FUN exposing you. :lol

[chunticakes]

I said Don Draper is closer to the character of "Batman" than whatever Nolan/Bale are trying to do.

I do like Mad Men, but that doesnt make me awesome. Im AWESOME because I exposed what a coward you are when I uncovered that you altered a quote from "07 seconds or less" to try and hide the fact that you fucked up.

In an EPIC twist of irony, it was your own sig that exposed your lie.

Maybe I should have been a journalist. It was so much FUN exposing you. :lol

cool story bro.

[monosylab1k]

I said Don Draper is closer to the character of "Batman" than whatever Nolan/Bale are trying to do.

I do like Mad Men, but that doesnt make me awesome. Im AWESOME because I exposed what a coward you are when I uncovered that you altered a quote from "07 seconds or less" to try and hide the fact that you fucked up.

In an EPIC twist of irony, it was your own sig that exposed your lie.

Maybe I should have been a journalist. It was so much FUN exposing you. :lol

I don't remember any of that, but apparently it's a big deal to you. Good job :tu

btw was that before or after a 15 year old on this site bent you over and dominated you intellectually right after you bragged about your Arizona State education?

[da_suns_fan]

Dont remember, eh?

Lemme refresh your memory:


Come on, Monos. Just admit it! You tried to conveniently edit a passage and got caught (you even changed the comma to a period)!!!

Admit what you did. We'll all have more respect for you.



For once I tried to protect Amare from looking like even more of an ignorant ass, and of all people a SUNS FAN insists that his full stupidity be exposed.

Fine by me.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

You embarrased the shit out of your whole David Koresh/Patton Oswalt crowd that day....too funny.

[da_suns_fan]

btw was that before or after a 15 year old on this site bent you over and dominated you intellectually right after you bragged about your Arizona State education?

When the hell was this?

[Tom,Dick&Harry]

Sometimes people can take the fun out of a movie.

[redzero]

Sometimes people can take the fun out of a movie.

Stop existing, please.

[Tom,Dick&Harry]

Stop existing, please.

We will if you go first. PLEASE!

[monosylab1k]

Dont remember, eh?

Lemme refresh your memory:






:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

You embarrased the shit out of your whole David Koresh/Patton Oswalt crowd that day....too funny.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

you had those quotes on standby, sitting in anticipation, ready to pull the trigger the second i made a reply :lmao :lmao that's the funniest thing of all.

[Darth_Pelican]

6 more hours!

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://funnypicturesplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/liam-neeson-dark-knight-rises-funny.jpg

[DPG21920]

lol

[Darth_Pelican]

http://funnypicturesplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/liam-neeson-dark-knight-rises-funny.jpg

:lol

[stretch]

Dont remember, eh?

Apostrophe your contractions, motherfucker.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Capitalize your O, motherfucker!

[The Reckoning]

people die.


oops, sorry

liam neeson wondering if he's going to get his role back


and LOLololol arizona state education :lol id rather hire someone from lolutsa.

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

you had those quotes on standby, sitting in anticipation, ready to pull the trigger the second i made a reply :lmao :lmao that's the funniest thing of all.

Nope.

I just googled "EPIC OWNAGE" and it was the first hit that came up.

[MannyIsGod]

2 hours. I suspect its not going to be as good as TDK but I suspect it will still be a damn good movie.

[The Reckoning]

i saw this last night... spoilers, kind of but not really...

wont go into detail but its worth the admission. of course no matter what expectations are going to be too high...but its a good film nonetheless. tbh though you can tell nolan is ready to finish batman and move onto other things. i dont blame him.

the film does tie up nicely with batman begins, which i liked better than tdk.

some scenes make absolutely no sense.

it's worth it to watch the first two batmans right before you see it because it continues directly after the last scene in the second.


all in all, i still think begins is the best.

[oh crap]

have not seen the new one, but i've always felt that batman begins was better than dark knight, though I really thought that both were great. as anxious as anybody else to watch the last piece.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

*NO SPOILERS*

Definitely the best storyline of the 3 movies.

Much better than I was expecting, and if you told me it was better than the Dark Knight (which I thought tried to shove way too much in 2 1/2 hours, and was a little hokey in parts) I wouldn't argue with you.

But man, Bane was just unreal. The most terrifying villain in any Batman film ever. He is just brutal. He may not be as lovable as the Joker, but I loved seeing Bane on screen, and his dialogue is so much easier to understand than the prologue.

Hathaway was also great.

One of the best things for TDKR for me was we finally had a Batman film where you really cared about what happens to Batman. Too many of the prior Batman films had him constantly overshadowed by the villains he faced. In TDK, as great as it was, I never got an emotional connection with Batman. Even when Rachel died, he was bummed, but I was hoping for a little more (I'm sure I'm in the minority on this).

But in TDKR, you really feel for Batman/Bruce and you finally see a super hero film where you can think "Oh my god, he is fucked, the city is fucked, and this can't end well." Bale definitely gave the best Batman performance to date, and it's not even close with this film.

You can argue TDK has the higher highs (mostly involving the Joker), but TDKR flies by with superb pacing, and honestly, from start to finish I think it was the more consistent film in terms of its plot/storyline.

I'll be anxious to see what everyone else thinks, especially of Bane, but god damn, so much better than I was expecting.

And if you can see it in IMAX, do so, this film is definitely the "biggest' Batman film in terms of scope and ambition.

[SA210]

*NO SPOILERS*

Definitely the best storyline of the 3 movies.

Much better than I was expecting, and if you told me it was better than the Dark Knight (which I thought tried to shove way too much in 2 1/2 hours, and was a little hokey in parts) I wouldn't argue with you.

But man, Bane was just unreal. The most terrifying villain in any Batman film ever. He is just brutal. He may not be as lovable as the Joker, but I loved seeing Bane on screen, and his dialogue is so much easier to understand than the prologue.

Hathaway was also great.

One of the best things for TDKR for me was we finally had a Batman film where you really cared about what happens to Batman. Too many of the prior Batman films had him constantly overshadowed by the villains he faced. In TDK, as great as it was, I never got an emotional connection with Batman. Even when Rachel died, he was bummed, but I was hoping for a little more (I'm sure I'm in the minority on this).

But in TDKR, you really feel for Batman/Bruce and you finally see a super hero film where you can think "Oh my god, he is fucked, the city is fucked, and this can't end well." Bale definitely gave the best Batman performance to date, and it's not even close with this film.

You can argue TDK has the higher highs (mostly involving the Joker), but TDKR flies by with superb pacing, and honestly, from start to finish I think it was the more consistent film in terms of its plot/storyline.

I'll be anxious to see what everyone else thinks, especially of Bane, but god damn, so much better than I was expecting.

And if you can see it in IMAX, do so, this film is definitely the "biggest' Batman film in terms of scope and ambition.

I agree!

I will be honest, my expectations were not so high for this film. I went because I hoped that it would prove me wrong, and it did. I was very disappointed in TDK. TDK, in my opinion was carried only by The Joker's character, I hated most of the other story, Harvey Dent in the end I thought was just horrible and dragged on to nowhere too much. I hated the rest of that film. It felt like other than the Joker, that it tried too hard.

I only loved the Joker.

This one though, TDKR, to my surprise (having the bad taste in my mouth from TDK), didn't need ONE character to carry the film. The story itself, all along kept me interested, I felt in part like it had touches and the feeling of Batman Begins to some degree. I just loved it. I really did. And Bane was hardcore! Bale actually did some acting in this one too.

I'm happy and got my money's worth. Maybe having lower expectations has something to do with it, but I'm satisfied.

I would like to forget about Part 2 really, and just wish it were only Batman Begins and then TDKR lol, but oh well. Some may think I'm too harsh on TDK, but I honestly don't care for it too much.

This movie was awesome.

:tu:tu

[SA210]

Well, just finding out about that horrible shooting in Colorado really just fucking bummed me the f out. Damn that's messed up what happened.