Official 2011 NBA Draft Thread

[DesignatedT]

So Rudy Fernandez to Dallas, Jordan Hamilton and Andre Miller to Denver and Raymond Felton to Portland. lol

[loveforthegame]

Fernandez insurance in case Barea leaves in free agency?

[spurs1990]

I'll say it. I want Kyle Singler.

[TheProfessor]

#28 is owned by the wolves. Will they draft and stash Bertans?
Makes sense. Which is why they hopefully won't do it.

[Rito3d30]

Does Spurs really owns Pacer's #42

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Lol, CBF's worst nightmare, a Longhorn on the Mavs.

Edit: n/m

Nah I'm ambivalent. I respect Jordan for staying an extra year, and wish him all the best. I thought he'd go 2-5 spots higher than he did in this weak draft.

I am, however, LOLing at that little bitch Corey Joseph for thinking he was something and leaving early.



Unfortunately it looks like a pretty good pic for the Mavericks though.

[Mal]

My men JaJuan gone :(

[Das Texan]

I will be shocked if hte Spurs draft someone you will see next year on this club.

[GSH]

Have a feeling Spurs draft none of the players being mentioned.

LOL... I don't remember the last time they actually drafted anyone we were talking about. You're right, this probably won't be any different.

[DPG21920]

Holy shit! Spurs give up Hill when Dallas got f*cking Rudy for the 26th pick?!

[NASpurs]

Have a feeling Spurs draft none of the players being mentioned.

I can't remember the last time anyone ever got the pick right. :lol

[baseline bum]

Makes sense. Which is why they hopefully won't do it.

:lol

[Uriel]

#28 is owned by the wolves. Will they draft and stash Bertans?

You never know with Kahn.

[spurs1990]

Anyone remember the 2008 draft on here. No one saw George Hill, and everyone hated that pick.

[baseline bum]

Holy shit! Spurs give up Hill when Dallas got f*cking Rudy for the 26th pick?!

Fernandez is awful.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'll say it. I want Kyle Singler.

you edited it

[baseline bum]

OK, time for the commercial.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bulls drafting for Miami now. Cole going to the Heat.

[Thompson]

Does Spurs really owns Pacer's #42

According to the Indy Star the Spurs do. Hopefully that's accurate.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110623/SPORTS04/110623025/Pacers-acquire-Broad-Ripple-High-School-IUPUI-s-George-Hill?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

[TheProfessor]

Holy shit! Spurs give up Hill when Dallas got f*cking Rudy for the 26th pick?!
A petulant chucker for the 26th pick sounds about right.

[elemento]

Miami i going to take Norris Cole with the 28th pick. Minny just traded the pick to Miami

[Libri]

Chicago picks Norris Cole.

[benefactor]

Bertans is probably a lock now.

[Spurs Brazil]

NBAonESPN:
Bulls take Norris Cole with the No. 28 pick in the 2011 NBA Draft. [via Twitter]

[DesignatedT]

Heat just got Norris Cole.

[baseline bum]

Chicago just drafted Kid n Play?

[ElNono]

And here we go...

[dragonpride2001]

we are on the clock

[lefty]

We are next !

[Tyrone Jenkins]

ANOTHER PG for Minnesota? I wonder wtf they're thinkin...

[dragonpride2001]

dammm it i was wrong

[ElNono]

commercial :pctoss

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

SWAG: Bojan Bogdanovic

[baseline bum]

OK, time for the commercial.

:rollin

[manufan10]

DAMN COMMERCIAL!! EVERY YEAR!! :bang

[jimo2305]

lol aaaaaaaaaaand commercial break!

[objective]

Mack ! Mack ! Mack !

or wait until 42. :lol

[TheProfessor]

Commercial break. It never fails.

[Das Texan]

no way!

a commercial before the spurs pick!

[Das Texan]

no way!

a commercial before the spurs pick!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But probably Bertrans.

[Mugen]

we could have the 1st pick and im sure espn would cut to commercial

[FilSpursFan]

.... and the spurs select....

[DarkGinobili]

LOL commercial

[manufan10]

ANOTHER PG for Minnesota? I wonder wtf they're thinkin...

That pick is going to MIA.

[kobyz]

maybe Justin Harper as a Bonner upgrade

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Still 1 minute left, calm the fuck down

[ducks]

who

[ThePop]

WTF this is not the longhorn i wanted

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Who?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Joseph?

[Pistons < Spurs]

Joseph.... really?

[Russ]

Coulda had him at 42?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:td Hate this pick. (and not because I'm an Ag). First round money for Joseph? Barf.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Woah

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LOLOL Corey Joseph

Ehhhhhh

[Spurs Brazil]

chadfordinsider:
The Spurs select Cory Jospeh of Texas at 29. Apparently he's the heir apparent of George Hill.

[dragonpride2001]

corey joseph

[Thompson]

George Hill? WTH?

[lefty]

TP's backup !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






We staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

[Tyrone Jenkins]

That pick is going to MIA.

How's that? What was that trade?

[dbestpro]

reach, but it is the bottom of the round.

[Horry For 3!]

Spurs select Cory Joseph..... interesting.

[ajballer4]

fuck my life

[Bartleby]

He will be able to keep his Austin apt. when he starts for the Toros.

[ducks]

guard

[erikuff]

wow..... this guy would have dropped to our 2nd round pick.....

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Spurs just saved Corey Joseph's ASS. Should have picked Selby.

[TheProfessor]

Ugh.

[DesignatedT]

Cory Joseph

[Pistons < Spurs]

NBA Comparison: AJ Price
Strengths: Young lead guard with upside ... Has ideal size for a point guard in the NBA, standing 6'3.25" in shoes with a 6'5.5" wingspan ... Well-rounded athlete ... Good speed with the ball in his hands ... Solid strength with the frame to potentially add a little more muscle ... Aggressive in transition, displaying good instincts and finishing ability ... Great perimeter shooting ability ... A very natural spot-up shooter from mid to long range ... Shot a very respectable 41.3% from behind the arc this season ... Adequate passing ability and he doesn't turn the ball over a lot (averaged over 2 assists per turnover) ... Keeps his teammates involved ... Not a selfish player by any stretch ... Only recently turned 20 years old and has a lot of room to improve ... A very solid defender with strong potential. Rick Barnes called him the best defensive guard he's had ... Very solid person, impressive character ...

Weaknesses: Very green as a prospect and leaving college so prematurely as a PG could severely inhibit his long term development ... Is currently more of a shooter than a scorer ... Very raw as a floor general and some question if he's more of a combo than true PG ... Shared ball-handling responsibilities at Texas, and never had the chance to really show off his creativity with the ball ... Not used to creating offense for himself off the dribble ... Doesn't look comfortable around the rim ... Great shooting numbers from outside, but shot only 42.8% from inside the arc which points to his mediocre slashing/cutting skills ... Playmaking ability has potential, but he has a lot to learn before he can be considered a quality full-time point guard ...

Overall: Ideally Joseph would have stayed another few years at Texas where he could have continued to see a lot of playing time and improve his all-around game ... Instead he chose to take advantage of the weak draft class and declare as a freshman with the hopes of being drafted now instead of competing with incoming point guard Myck Kabongo next season ... Could be an interesting second round pick if a team falls in love with his potential and is willing to invest in and wait for him ...

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/cory-joseph

[mexicanjunior]

WTF...Cory Joseph? I guess we are drafting for the fucking Toros...

[Das Texan]

what?

[Uriel]

*stunned silence*

[manufan10]

espn_macmahon Tim MacMahon


Donnie Nelson couldn't name names, but he said Mavs gave up picks 26 and 57 for 2 players. (One is Rudy Fernandez. Not sure about other.)

[timtonymanu]

So he's the back-up point?

[NASpurs]

Curtis Jerrells?

[ShoogarBear]

I am, however, LOLing at that little bitch Corey Joseph for thinking he was something

:rollin :rollin :lmao

[Amarelooms]

lol

:elephant

[ChuckD]

Man, I hope that's a trade pick.

[ducks]

strange

[I Heart Ginobili]

cory is dope. watched him a bunch this year, he is a great defender and will develop into a nice backup pg

[Russo21]

awesome! a 6'3" skinny man. were so set for a championship

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

spurs just saved corey joseph's ass. Should have picked selby.

qft.

[manufan10]

varner48MoH Timothy Varner


Wait...the Spurs traded George Hill and then drafted George Hill. Classic Spurs maneuver. #spurs

[GSH]

Another fucking combo?

[DesignatedT]

He plays good defense and is a team guy. They must have liked his workouts, knew they needed a PG and didn't want to risk him not being there at 42. Better then picking Bertans IMO.

[baseline bum]

Spurs just saved Corey Joseph's ASS. Should have picked Selby.

Yeah, I wanted Selby too.

[jimo2305]

lol.. i don't expect joseph to be a back up pg right now

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:rollin :rollin :lmao

:lol

[TheProfessor]

So...backup PG with defensive potential that shoots the 3. Makes sense, but it's still a hell of a stretch at the 29th pick.

[Spurminator]

Dallas traded for Rudy Fernandez

[ShoogarBear]

He will be able to keep his Austin apt. when he starts for the Toros.
:lol

[kobyz]

i like Joseph game, he play the right way and seems solid at every aspect of the game

[benefactor]

I'd rather them stash the pick. Pretty big reach at 29.

[baseline bum]

Damn... I feel bad for Honeycutt not making the first round.

[NASpurs]

"Thank you for that" :lmao

[manufan10]

How's that? What was that trade?

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski


Check that: The deal for Norris Coles to Miami is with Minnesota, not Chicago.

[Spurs Brazil]

johnhollinger:
RT @kpelton: R.C. Buford knows Cory Joseph, that's for sure. Buford brought Alexis Wangmene, who played at Texas with Joseph, to the U.S

[loveforthegame]

Surprising pick. Not hating on it just thought that would have been a 2nd round choice instead.

I guess the 2nd round picks will be stashes now?

[spurtech09]

cory is dope. watched him a bunch this year, he is a great defender and will develop into a nice backup pg
hope your right?

[NASpurs]

He will be able to keep his Austin apt. when he starts for the Toros.

:lol /thread

[Das Texan]

Nothing beats the reaction Stern was getting tonight.

[ace3g]

and of course Butler picked right after us, same with Singleton...

[Mugen]

last time a spurs pick got this type of reaction was George hill so we'll see...i woulda preferred malcolm lee or Mack if they were reaching for a backup point...

[BackHome]

What a fucking stupid ass pick by Rc........this dude is a second rounder at best. What the hell are POP and RC smoking .......STUPID...!!

[TheProfessor]

Glad to see Jimmy Butler went in the first round.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

smh jospeh is a great defender

This is true.

I don't like the pick but one thing is certain:

Corey Joseph is above average sized for his position and a good defender at his position.

Corey Joseph is insanely mature for a 19 year old and is so level headed, it almost screams "Spur"

Corey Joseph is a low TO ball handler

Corey Joseph can shoot the 3 from NBA range


So....it's not all bad

[FilSpursFan]

i thought we need a big man...

[Russ]

Three Longhorns in the first round.

Boy that Rick Barnes sure can . . .

recruit.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So basically anyone who screamed for the Spurs to get bigger and get back to playing defense have to quiet down a bit.

[objective]

ESPN didn't help the enthusiasm for Joseph among Spurs fans with those routine highlights.

[TheProfessor]

I'm guessing the Spurs heard Miami or another team would jump on Cory early in the second round, before the 42nd pick.

[dbestpro]

Joseph is the guard version of Ian. We do better in the 2nd round, anyway.

[Wu36]

Couldn't they have gotten him at 42?

[BackHome]

This is true.

I don't like the pick but one thing is certain:

Corey Joseph is above average sized for his position and a good defender at his position.

Corey Joseph is insanely mature for a 19 year old and is so level headed, it almost screams "Spur"

Corey Joseph is a low TO ball handler

Corey Joseph can shoot the 3 from NBA range


So....it's not all bad

NO freakin way this kid is better then Darrious Morris.....not even in the same fucking league...He will be waived or put into D league for his career.....This goes right up there with the Scola trade and the signing of RJ...another stupid move!!!!!!!!!!!

[Arc]

i like the pick. we need a real backup pg.

[benefactor]

manuginobili Manu Ginobili
Spursfans, need info on Cory Joseph. I'm not on the computer now. Position, size, age, college, strenghts... Thx!!!

[Spurtacus]

I am stunned by the Joseph pick. Definitely a reach at 29 (would have been there at 42 most likely). I would have preferred a big man to be stashed at 29.

[Chomag]

Bad bad, bad pick Spurs. With what was still there the kid the got was a late second rounder...oh well

[ducks]

This is true.

I don't like the pick but one thing is certain:

Corey Joseph is above average sized for his position and a good defender at his position.

Corey Joseph is insanely mature for a 19 year old and is so level headed, it almost screams "Spur"

Corey Joseph is a low TO ball handler

Corey Joseph can shoot the 3 from NBA range


So....it's not all bad


spurs look back to their d ways
sending bad d hill out drafting d players

[GSH]

Ryan Feldman:If the Spurs do trade Tony Parker, they'll need another PG because Joseph won't be able to start as a rookie.


Wins the "No Shit Award" for the evening.

[Borat Sagyidev]

you guys are slow. Cleveland wants this guy. Look for them to take RJ and Joseph


http://www.dailytexanonline.com/sports/2011/06/22/joseph-hoping-choice-go-pro-will-pay

[Chomag]

Spurs need some size and they just get smaller.

[Bruno]

We have no idea if Joseph could have been at #42. 3 years, we all thought that Spurs reach a lot to get Hill while Lakers were ready to pick him just after Spurs.

[ShoogarBear]

Damn... I feel bad for Honeycutt not making the first round.
All the UCLA people I know think he's selfish and good riddance.

[Russo21]

Spurs need some size and they just get smaller.
:bang

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

LOL @ ESPN with graphics and fancy workup for the Heat.

All over the Miami jimmystick..

[dbestpro]

lol Dallas wins the ring and Miami called the dynasty.

[Spurtacus]

you guys are slow. Cleveland wants this guy. Look for them to take RJ and Joseph


http://www.dailytexanonline.com/sports/2011/06/22/joseph-hoping-choice-go-pro-will-pay

They have Irving, Sessions and Davis at PG...

[ALVAREZ6]

Spurs need some size and they just get smaller.

Technically, they haven't. The new PG is GHill size, but brought in 6'7" Leonard.

[ohmwrecker]

Piss poor pick.......Honeycutt, Williams, Tyler on the board....and if you wanted a back up pg you should have taken Miller from Mich.

Pops and Buford broke into the wine befor the draft tonight.

If T2S hates this pick, maybe it's not that bad . . .

[I Heart Ginobili]

we should have waited till next years draft to pick up a longhorn pg and trade up for myck kabongo

[Killakobe81]

Finally got a legit SF prospect with real defensive potential. Sad to see Hill go, but it makes sense.

Good trade for both teams. Hill and Collison is a small but quick backcourt but should be pretty good defensively ...

[mudyez]

last time a spurs pick got this type of reaction was George hill so we'll see

this!!!

[blkroadrunners]

LOL @ ESPN with graphics and fancy workup for the Heat.

All over the Miami jimmystick..

Love NY's reaction.

[benefactor]

If T2S hates this pick, maybe it's not that bad . . .
:tu

[Spurs Brazil]

manuginobili Manu Ginobili
Spursfans, need info on Cory Joseph. I'm not on the computer now. Position, size, age, college, strenghts... Thx!!!

Somebody also tell Manu that Hill is gone

[benefactor]

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
I wonder if Stuart Scott ever gets tired of moderating discussions about the Miami Heat.

rofl

[TheProfessor]

We have no idea if Joseph could have been at #42. 3 years, we all thought that Spurs reach a lot to get Hill while Lakers were ready to pick him just after Spurs.
Exactly. Joseph makes a lot of sense as a role-playing back-up PG on a contending team. Defense, 3-point shooting, doesn't turn it over. They might have gotten word that he was gone early 2nd.

[Killakobe81]

All the UCLA people I know think he's selfish and good riddance.

Dumbass should of stayed 1 more year ...

Ny bruins have been good, not great the past few years ...

[Borat Sagyidev]

They have Irving, Sessions and Davis at PG...

They want him. Chris Grant (cavaliers GM) has been in the local media saying he liked his game.

They could easily stash him and give us some chips

[BackHome]

I can't belive they did this stupid shit.....the dude is on almost all draft boards going late second round!!!!!

[kobyz]

i like Cory Joseph game, my comparison for him is Delonte West!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Singler to Detroit. :lmao

[baseline bum]

CROFL Selby. Did he have awful workouts or something?

[Uriel]

Could Davis Bertans be available at 42?

[Big P]

Dallas sent the 26 and 57 to Portland for Fernandez & Kopponen?? They got over!

[benefactor]

Singler...this year's Budinger?

[jjktkk]

Piss poor pick.......Honeycutt, Williams, Tyler on the board....and if you wanted a back up pg you should have taken Miller from Mich.

Pops and Buford broke into the wine befor the draft tonight.

I'm wondering when you broke into the wine? 08, 09?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They're probably rioting in Detroit over the Singler pick.

[ohmwrecker]

Maybe the Spurs picked Josef for the Cavs and can get Harper back . . . Throw in RJ for BoomDizzle?

[ElNono]

Somebody also tell Manu that Hill is gone

Just sent him the info on Corey... somebody already told him about hill

[TheProfessor]

Could Davis Bertans be available at 42?
I don't think so. Morey might jump on him at 38.

[Mugen]

i have faith in the FO's ability to draft and scout so I'll reserve judgment til the season starts.

The coach's ability to put the best players on the court and decision making is another story.

[baseline bum]

Pauly D gets to stay home and play for Anaheim in 2013.

[mexicanjunior]

This really puts a downer on what was a decent night with the Leonard for Hill swap...Spurs certainly now how to shit on a good move with a retarded one...

[Uriel]

Would anyone with ESPN Insider please post Chad Ford's instant analysis of the Spurs' draft picks? Thanks.

[baseline bum]

What the fuck is Denver thinking?

[baseline bum]

Selby just falling like hell. Wow.

[tdunk21]

will we pick jeremy tyler with the 42nd?

[baseline bum]

will we pick jeremy tyler with the 42nd?

I hope not.

[Mugen]

lol @ Denver getting a half court pg when their strength is on the break with their athleticism...

[Spurtacus]

Would anyone with ESPN Insider please post Chad Ford's instant analysis of the Spurs' draft picks? Thanks.

The Pacers selected Leonard for the San Antonio Spurs, a source says. In return, the Pacers will get guard George Hill, a local product. For the Spurs, this is a great pick. I had Leonard ranked at No. 7 on my board, after watching him and hearing from people around the league. He is versatile, has a great motor, is a good defender and is an emerging offensive player.

The Spurs surprised us a bit with the Joseph pick. He's more of a scorer and not a great athlete, but he sort of reminds me of George Hill. Joseph is now Hill's heir apparent after the team shipped Hill to the Pacers for the 15th pick.

[cheguevara]

Lol this reminds me of my fantasy league n I picked Blair in d first round. Total fuckup

[baseline bum]

So $1000 vbookie cash on a commercial at 42.

[Mal]

will we pick jeremy tyler with the 42nd?

Id like him

[DPG21920]

I have no real beef with the Cory pick. You don't expect anything massive from the 29th pick and the Spurs addressed a need they created.

I don't even have a problem w the 15th pick as he could be fine, it's just giving up Hill for that with RJ on the roster still and knowing they will need a lot more to actually contend. As of right now they are in the dreaded "stuck in the middle" phase.

We will see how this all shakes out.

[tdunk21]

who do u guys like at 42?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

thetruthsports thetruthsports
by HPbasketball
Ouch. RT @STEIN_LINE_HQ: ESPN.com sources: Houston making newly acquired PG Jonny Flynn available to interested teams.

[benefactor]

lol Rockets

[Mal]

Selby just falling like hell. Wow.

Selby sucks

[GSH]

Okay, here's my hope for how this all pans out:

1.Cleveland really does want Joseph. They get him, and take RJ's contract. Spurs not worried about backup PG, because DeColo is coming over this year.

2. Spurs already know that Lorbek is ready to come to NBA.

3. Bertans is still on the board at 42, and turns out to be the gem of the second round.

4. Splitter benefits greatly from training camp, and is ready to be the player we all hoped for.

5. Neal benefits from the minutes that Hill used to get, and exceeds expectations yet again.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Houston Rockets will select Florida's Chandler Parsons with the 38th pick, league source tells Y!

[DPG21920]

Thank God no catastrophic TP trade happened. The Hill trade is by no means has the potential to be a major f up, but I feel many here under valued him

[benefactor]

How many times can Bilas really say that someone has first round talent in the second round?

[Bruno]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.

[Mal]

Okay, here's my hope for how this all pans out:

1.Cleveland really does want Joseph. They get him, and take RJ's contract. Spurs not worried about backup PG, because DeColo is coming over this year.

2. Spurs already know that Lorbek is ready to come to NBA.

3. Bertans is still on the board at 42, and turns out to be the gem of the second round.

4. Splitter benefits greatly from training camp, and is ready to be the player we all hoped for.

5. Neal benefits from the minutes that Hill used to get, and exceeds expectations yet again.

@1 LOL

@2 He aint coming

[TheProfessor]

If Rockets pick Parsons, Bertans might be there for us.

[Thompson]

I hate that Houston always seems to pick a couple spots in front of us.

[Spursnlego]

Thank God no catastrophic TP trade happened. The Hill trade is by no means has the potential to be a major f up, but I feel many here under valued him

The nights not over yet...

[baseline bum]

selby is garbage....

Probably, but might as well go for potential over absolute shit talent that's left.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Neal is a backup SG - nothing else. He will, most likely, be a backup SG for his career. I would expect Anderson to surpass Neal on the depth chart

[baseline bum]

Damn, every time I hear Shaun Livingston's name it makes me kind of sad. He was going to be such a monster defensive player.

[ShoogarBear]

thetruthsports thetruthsports
by HPbasketball
Ouch. RT @STEIN_LINE_HQ: ESPN.com sources: Houston making newly acquired PG Jonny Flynn available to interested teams.

McHale: Jonny Flynn? Where do I know that name from? Oh, wait, dammit!

[ohmwrecker]

Okay, here's my hope for how this all pans out:

1.Cleveland really does want Joseph. They get him, and take RJ's contract. Spurs not worried about backup PG, because DeColo is coming over this year.


This is what I was thinking, but get back Harper and get either Baron or Boobie for RJ. Fuck DeColo.

[baseline bum]

Damnit, I wish they still had 30 people in the green room like the old days so we could see a Rashard Lewis moment with Selby.

[TheProfessor]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.
A little extreme, don't you think? If we had dumped Parker, I might agree, but Spurs could still grab a backup PG in free agency.

[baseline bum]

McHale: Johnny Flynn? Where do I know that name from? Oh, wait, dammit!

:lol

[Mal]

This is what I was thinking, but get back Harper and get either Baron or Boobie for RJ. Fuck DeColo.

Joseph is worth taking RJ`s contract ?

[Spurtacus]

ESPN Insider

1(31) Miami (Rights traded to Minnesota) Bojan Bogdanovic 6-7 200 SF Bosnia
The Heat sent this to the Wolves for the 28th pick, and then the Wolves sold it to the Nets. Bogdanovic was the second-leading scorer in the Euroleague this year, so he can play. But his contract will keep him from coming to the NBA for at least the next two years.

2(32) Cleveland Justin Harper 6-9 228 PF Richmond
Love this pick for the Cavs. Harper is the opposite of Tristan Thompson. He can really stretch the floor. Good value here.

3(33) Detroit (from Toronto) Kyle Singler 6-9 228 SF Duke
The Pistons went for toughness at No. 33. Singler has struggled with his shot and lacks a clear position, but he's one of the toughest guys out there. One scout said he could be an Andres Nocioni type of player in the future.

4(34) Washington Shelvin Mack 6-3 209 PG Butler
I like Shelvin Mack. He's tough, he can shoot a bit and he can play the 1 and the 2. Nice player coming off the bench.

5(35) Sacramento Tyler Honeycutt 6-8 186 SF UCLA
The Kings were looking for a small forward and get a steal with Honeycutt. Had he stayed in school for another year, he could have been a solid first-round pick. Very good value here. He has a very high basketball IQ and can really pass it. Plus, UCLA players always seem to do better in the NBA. I like this pick for the Kings.

6(36) New Jersey Jordan Williams 6-9 247 C Maryland
Williams is tough and an excellent rebounder, but he's undersized for his position. Still, the Nets needed help here.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Spurs drafted their backup PG.

[ElNono]

I still expect the Spurs to turn Dice's contract into some sort of big man in the offseason... Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to be able to send RJ packing and I'm pretty sure they still love Matty....

[DesignatedT]

I have a feeling the Spurs are going to still be extremely active going forward. This is just the beginning.

[tdunk21]

fuck the bobcats..jeremy tyler is gone

[DPG21920]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.

Exactly. It appears at the momnet the Spurs have decided to do nothing vs making an actual decision to either rebuild or push forward. They can't be delusional and think they are true contenders especially when their best Players don't believe that.

[Spurtacus]

Tyler to Charlotte. Nice pick. Low risk, high reward potential.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.

That is precisely what I don't find easy to comprehend.

Why did the Spurs have to lose a NBA mid-level player in George Hill to gain unknown quantities in Leonard and Joseph? The Spurs have shown to have the best front office in the near past and this kind of capitulation'ism' is very difficult to accept.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.

Wayyy too soon to predict that. They've stuck with Parker, so I believe they're gonna give it another run.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Okay, here's my hope for how this all pans out:

1.Cleveland really does want Joseph. They get him, and take RJ's contract. Spurs not worried about backup PG, because DeColo is coming over this year.

2. Spurs already know that Lorbek is ready to come to NBA.

3. Bertans is still on the board at 42, and turns out to be the gem of the second round.

4. Splitter benefits greatly from training camp, and is ready to be the player we all hoped for.

5. Neal benefits from the minutes that Hill used to get, and exceeds expectations yet again.

Cleveland has Irving, BDavis, and Sessions. Why would they want a fourth point? Come on people.

[benefactor]

Bertans still falling.

[Uriel]

Bruno, provided he wants to, could Lorbek come over to the Spurs in time for the season, or does he have contractual / buyout issues that necessitate waiting another year or so?

[dbestpro]

Benson, Leuer or Bertans.

[baseline bum]

CROFL Tyler coached by Bob Hill. Another good reason not to want him.

[Mal]

Tyler to Charlotte. Nice pick. Low risk, high reward potential.

They have too many low IQ players. Bismarck, Corey, Tyrus, DeSagana and now Tyler. OMG what a combo

[blkroadrunners]

:lmao overrated

[ShoogarBear]

The Bucks are now trying to obtain the rights to Francisco Elson and Speedy Claxton.

[manufan10]

Bilas seems to look like he doesn't really want to be there. A few times they've asked him questions, and he sits there in a daze. :lol

[ohmwrecker]

I still expect the Spurs to turn Dice's contract into some sort of big man in the offseason... Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to be able to send RJ packing and I'm pretty sure they still love Matty....

Bonner is going nowhere.

[Mugen]

people really want another 6-10 ginger at 42 eh?

[ALVAREZ6]

fuck the bobcats..jeremy tyler is gone

yeah I really don't understand why we didn't take him at 29. The Spurs better be able to find a reliable big man that's already in the league.

[ElNono]

I'm just wondering if they thought they couldn't retain Hill after next season, so they rather start grooming somebody else now...

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Thank God Tyler's gone - I have no idea why there's so much desire for such an immature kid...

he actually might be pretty good in his 2nd contract (which will be w/ his 2nd team) but not his 1st

[GSH]

@1 LOL

@2 He aint coming


I don't think so either. But if those things don't happen, we're fucked.

[objective]

Leuer to the Bucks per DX

[Chomag]

Steven Jackson was traded? Why couldn't the Spurs get him...

[baseline bum]

That is precisely what I don't find easy to comprehend.

Why did the Spurs have to lose a NBA mid-level player in George Hill to gain unknown quantities in Leonard and Joseph? The Spurs have shown to have the best front office in the near past and this kind of capitulation'ism' is very difficult to accept.

Chad Ford was reporting the Spurs really love James Anderson, so Hill becomes redundant if so.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bruno, provided he wants to, could Lorbek come over to the Spurs in time for the season, or does he have contractual / buyout issues that necessitate waiting another year or so?

Small buyout for Lorbek this year, but he's a second rounder so no cap on contract, we could make that work.

His contract ends next year. Just boils down to how bad he wants to be here this year. I'm guessing the Spurs have already talked to him and know his feelings on the matter.

[MaNu4Tres]

Both Leonard and Joseph are 19 years old. Spurs went with very young prospects. When you add that Spurs have lost a good player in Hill, they will be worst at the end of the draft that they were at the start of it.

Spurs are taking a step back and have maybe accepted to be a mediocre team for the end of the Duncan's era.

Not necessarily.

An Anderson/Leonard wing combo will end up being a more talented defensive wing combo than Neal/Hill was last year. Which was a huge weak spot on the team and has been the past few years (Mason,Finley, Udoka ect.). Hill was better than Finley, Mason, Udoka but that's not saying much and at the same time his size hurt him a lot in money time on the defensive end.

This view on the move is certainly realistic, especially from a defensive perspective. And if you're worried about shooting, Anderson is a very good shooter and Spurs still have Neal in their arsenal as well. Those two can easily replace Hill's offensive production. Therefore, I don't see how this sets back the team into mediocrity. Now if they traded Parker for that crap pile of shit trade to the Kings then I'd agree with you.

This move could improve the Spurs in many areas. Only time will tell.

[ohmwrecker]

Cleveland has Irving, BDavis, and Sessions. Why would they want a fourth point? Come on people.

They will be looking to move one or two of those guys anyway.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Steven Jackson was traded? Why couldn't the Spurs get him...

stephen Jackson used to play for the Spurs - no need to backtrack for an old SF...we already have one of those

[objective]

CROFL Tyler coached by Bob Hill. Another good reason not to want him.

I agree. Who did Hill develop with the Spurs?

Who did he develop at Fordham while running that program into the ground? Smush Parker?

[tdunk21]

jon leuer to bucks....i hope we get benson with the 42nd

[dbestpro]

Leuer could have helped us get rid of Bonner.

[Bruno]

Wayyy too soon to predict that. They've stuck with Parker, so I believe they're gonna give it another run.

Well, they shouldn't be a lottery team next year but they clearly haven improved next year's team by losing Hill and adding a couple of 19 years old rookies.

[baseline bum]

Now I'm just hoping to see Scotty Hopson go 60.

[dbestpro]

Bertans or Benson.

[baseline bum]

I bet these faggots take Selby.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Exactly. It appears at the momnet the Spurs have decided to do nothing vs making an actual decision to either rebuild or push forward. They can't be delusional and think they are true contenders especially when their best Players don't believe that.

This is true. I do see it as rebuilding though. Theres nothing to say that a mid-season dramatic trade involving Parker is out of the question, or that Duncan is coming back after next season (which means we will suck and get a high draft pick after that season).

These two picks from tonight will be hitting their stride. Who knows?

I see what yall are saying but I do see it as rebuilding.

What I also want to mention is that if the Spurs were not so god-damned stupid with their European draft strategy in the Scola era, we would be, for lack of a better word, pretty stacked.

Spurs draft strategy is on the right track now. Can't bitch about that.

[Thompson]

Lakers pick Morris. Bertans still there if Spurs want him.

[jesterbobman]

Morris to LAL.

[baseline bum]

No commercial break? WTF?

[Libri]

Lakers pick Darius Morris.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Hmmmm....

[Russ]

Bertans is there if they want him. (Wasn't the rumor that they promised to take him at 29?)

[GSH]

Cleveland has Irving, BDavis, and Sessions. Why would they want a fourth point? Come on people.

I was just horsing around. Trying to come to grips with how seriously fucked we are. I really thought Cleveland might take RJ with Jordan Hamilton. But no, nobody else is going to be interested in giving Joseph first round money.

I also said earlier that I don't think Lorbek is even interested in the NBA.

We are so screwed. Re-building, but not committed to re-building.

[benefactor]

I'd really like to see them take Bertans here. Great second round value for a stash.

[dragonpride2001]

here we go

[Libri]

Drum roll please. The Spurs pick.........

[Bruno]

Bruno, provided he wants to, could Lorbek come over to the Spurs in time for the season, or does he have contractual / buyout issues that necessitate waiting another year or so?

From what other have said, he has a NBA friendly contract. He will be a free agent next summer and has a reasonable buyout for this summer.

The big question mark is about his motivation to come overseas. Playing for Spurs should motivate him more than playing for Pacers.

[Chomag]

this Pick should be the Spurs shouldn't it?

[manufan10]

They still have Pacers on the board for #42.

[Uriel]

Holy crap! Bertans really could be available at 42! *fingers crossed*

[Spursfanfromafar]

Chad Ford was reporting the Spurs really love James Anderson, so Hill becomes redundant if so.

Fair enough, but why replace redundancy with mediocrity? Couldn't they have explored the option of gaining a front court player in return? Heck, they could have asked for Josh McRoberts for Hill + the 42.. and swapped 15 and 29.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The trade doesn't mean we're rebuilding.

People need to look at it as Anderson/Leonard for Hill. Think time will prove that to be an upgrade for us.

[ace3g]

commercial break, lol

[ElNono]

lol commercial right on cue

[timtonymanu]

LOL commercial

[baseline bum]

CROFL They did the commercial break!!!

[blkroadrunners]

:pctoss Fucking commercials!