Trade Deadline Deals and Rumors

[Despot]

1:59 Blair must be getting traded right now

[RD2191]

@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


RT @sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): San Antonio's DeJuan Blair is stuck with the Spurs, I'm told. No deal done for him at the deadline.

[Richie]

Blazers trading a pick (almost certainly a 1st) for Maynor when they already have their point guard of the future? What a horrible deal for Portland.

[Pasta Batman]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)
Orlando has traded J.J Redick to the Bucks, league source tells Y!

I'm more than sure, this will come out as a bigger deal later.

[Pop]

@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


RT @sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): San Antonio's DeJuan Blair is stuck with the Spurs, I'm told. No deal done for him at the deadline.


Good job FO....

[NASpurs]

Who's the third team?!?!

And I'm wondering or not if I should drop Redick from my fantasy team since they have Ellis and Jennings as chuckers. :lol

[LittleCriminal]

@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


RT @sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): San Antonio's DeJuan Blair is stuck with the Spurs, I'm told. No deal done for him at the deadline.


FUCK!!!!!!!

[cd98]

2:00

[Darkwaters]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)
Orlando has traded J.J Redick to the Bucks, league source tells Y!

Boom

[timtonymanu]

Blazers trading a pick (almost certainly a 1st) for Maynor when they already have their point guard of the future? What a horrible deal for Portland.

I doubt they throw away their 1st round pick. Maynor is a backup. Not a starter type. Besides, Portland desperately needs some depth.

[Buddy Holly]

Meh he sucks and doesn't play, more like they got something out of nothing.

But the trade doesn't help them at all. That's my point.

[ace3g]

now Hawks aren't involved, come on Spurs join the party

[TE]

@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


RT @sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): San Antonio's DeJuan Blair is stuck with the Spurs, I'm told. No deal done for him at the deadline.


Fuck

[loveforthegame]

It's going to be fun watching the turd towers in the playoffs again.

[cd98]

It appears Smith stays put in Atlanta.

[kidd_91]

TwitterMarc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Bucks NOT doing trade for Josh Smith and, as JoshuaBRobbins reported for Orlando Sentinel, working on sealing three-way deal for @JJRedick

[crc21209]

Redick to Bucks? What a waste of a good player on a crappy team. :td

[Buddy Holly]

Good job FO....

You're a gigantic ass clown from just the little I've see of you.

[DesignatedT]

Most boring trade deadline ever.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Who are the third team?

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)
Bucks NOT doing trade for Josh Smith and, as @JoshuaBRobbins (https://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins)reported for Orlando Sentinel, working on sealing three-way deal for@JJRedick (https://twitter.com/JJRedick)

[TE]

It's going to be fun watching the turd towers in the playoffs again.

Really really fun

[Pop]

Redick to Bucks? What a waste of a good player on a crappy team. :td

Better long term option than Ellis probably and they're pretty good this year.

[cd98]

No trades for Spurs, but at least Thunder, Heat, and Clippers didn't improve. Really no one did. So great news for Spurs.

[dbestpro]

@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


RT @sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): San Antonio's DeJuan Blair is stuck with the Spurs, I'm told. No deal done for him at the deadline.


The turd towers just won't die!

[timtonymanu]

Most boring trade deadline ever.

I'll take it if it means the Lakers don't get gifted a BS trade.

[Richie]

I doubt they throw away their 1st round pick. Maynor is a backup. Not a starter type. Besides, Portland desperately needs some depth.

Would OKC really dump Maynor for a 2nd round pick? I don't think so, he's got much more value than that.

In fact, if it was a little as a 2nd rounder, I would hope the Spurs would have offered their first for him. Maybe OKC wouldn't have done that deal with a conference rival but still..

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Milwaukee sends Orlando Doron Lamb, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih, source tells Y!

[benefactor]

Looks like the Bobcats are the third team.

[Spursfanfromafar]

It was indeed a dud line..


Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA)
Alright! RT @rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell): BREAKING: Bobcats dealing Hakim Warrick for Josh McRoberts.

[kidd_91]

TwitterBrian Windhorst windhorstESPN
The Hawks did not trade Josh Smith, sources tell ESPN

[Buddy Holly]

I'm laughing at all the talking heads in ESPN and NBA TV predicting with great certainty that Josh Smith would be traded.

[bklynspursfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)
Josh Smith will stay in Atlanta, league source tells Y! Sports. No deal.

[DesignatedT]

I'll take it if it means the Lakers don't get gifted a BS trade.

Agree. Don't understand why people are upset. Clippers or Thunder stood pat and didn't make any trades to put them over the top of us (KG, Gortat, etc). Great news for Spurs fans. Sure it would have been nice to get something in return for Blair but whatever.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So we're still going to carry Bonner and Blair into the playoffs. Lovely.

[kidd_91]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
RT Sam_amick: Orlando is discussing a three-team deal with Milwaukee and Charlotte, I'm told, involving JJ Redick

[cd98]

It was indeed a dud line..


Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA)
Alright! RT @rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell): BREAKING: Bobcats dealing Hakim Warrick for Josh McRoberts.

I love the "BREAKING"

[Obstructed_View]

Green is a starting-caliber shooting-guard. Seriously, what does the man have to do for people to stop thinking every run-of-the-mill guard on another team can do his job better?

If I thought any run-of-the-mill guard on another team could do his job better, I'd be in favor of JJ Redick or Booby Gibson joining the Spurs. That said, Manu and Jack are the starting-caliber twos on this team.

[timtonymanu]

:lol What a lame trade deadline, but better that than our potential playoff opponents getting much better.

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN (https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN) The Hawks have traded Anthony Morrow to Dallas for Dahntay Jones, sources tell ESPN

[kidd_91]

TwitterBrian Windhorst windhorstESPN
The Hawks have traded Anthony Morrow to Dallas for Dahntay Jones, sources tell ESPN

[Obstructed_View]

I love the "BREAKING"

I loved that someone said Toronto was in the lead for Telfair, like he was a prize. :lol

[loveforthegame]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN (https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN) The Hawks have traded Anthony Morrow to Dallas for Dahntay Jones, sources tell ESPN

Nice deal for Dallas.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN (https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN) The Hawks have traded Anthony Morrow to Dallas for Dahntay Jones, sources tell ESPN

Good trade for the Mavs, imo.

[crc21209]

:lol So the big deal of the day is a 3 way trade between the Bucks, Magic, and Bobcats? :lol Cancel the ESPN trade deadline special right now. Like others have said, at least the Clippers, Heat, and Thunder didnt get better...

[DesignatedT]

Ohhh snap. Dallas goin for that 8 seed. Bank of Cuban is open!

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Orlando sends Ayon and Ish Smith to Milwaukee as part of deal for Redick, source tells Y!

[Pop]

:lol:rollin

[moisaenz]

all this crappy trades and spurs couldnt move blair?

[crc21209]

Ohhh snap. Dallas goin for that 8 seed. Bank of Cuban is open!

:lol

[Spursfanfromafar]

What a bad and crappy deal for the Magic (till we know if they got any picks). They sell Redick and Ayon and some stiffs for a whole lot of stiffs and expirings.

[TMT®]

Orlando essentially getting rid of Reddick, Ayon, Ish Smith and McRoberts for Udrih, Harris, Lamb and Warrick?

What the hell?

[Drachen]

Now we wait for the buyouts.

[Obstructed_View]

Dallas got someone to take five or six shots away from Vince Carter. That's got to be a good thing for them.

[Obstructed_View]

What a bad and crappy deal for the Magic (till we know if they got any picks). They sell Redick and Ayon and some stiffs for a whole lot of stiffs and expirings.

And JV's gonna be the first one canned for it.

[romsho]

So we're still going to carry Bonner and Blair into the playoffs. Lovely.

So what. They don't play big minutes. Probably not even in the playoff rotation. There is value however in eating up some regular season minutes to keep everyone healthy. Again, so what.

[DesignatedT]

What a shitty deal for Orlando. Not even a first rounder?

[Hoops Czar]

What a bad and crappy deal for the Magic (till we know if they got any picks). They sell Redick and Ayon and some stiffs for a whole lot of stiffs and expirings.

All this means is that the Spurs offer must have been pure shit.

[moisaenz]

And JV's gonna be the first one canned for it.

they are just trying to get howard in the offseason... oh wait....

[crc21209]

Orlando essentially getting rid of Reddick, Ayon, Ish Smith and McRoberts for Udrih, Harris, Lamb and Warrick?

What the hell?

Scrubs for scrubs. Real head scratcher of a deal...

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Boston will send Jason Collins to the Wizards part of Jordan Crawford deal, source tells Y! Sports.

[TimDunkem]

Scrubs for scrubs. Real head scratcher of a deal...

:lol

[will_spurs]

Hard to decide whether OKC became worse or not by getting rid of Maynor... but losing depth could come back to bite them in the ass come playoff time.

[polandprzem]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Boston will send Jason Collins to the Wizards part of Jordan Crawford deal, source tells Y! Sports.

Oh no! Dammnit :pctoss

[moisaenz]

so about tonight's game?

[Mal]

Lol Danny Ferry

[Pop]

So what. They don't play big minutes. Probably not even in the playoff rotation. There is value however in eating up some regular season minutes to keep everyone healthy. Again, so what.

There's such a thing as getting better by subtraction as freeing up minutes for prospects with higher ceilings and all that, especially with a military-minded coach like Pop who is all about corporate knowledge, fairness to the team, pecking order...

We saw how useful is winning regular season championship compared to that...

[Hoops Czar]

LOL R.C. Buford

[crc21209]

Chad Ford
@chadfordinsider
Hearing Hawks pulled out of 3 way deal with Bucks & Magic that would've sent Josh Smith to Milwaukee at 2:59 p.m.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Ronnie Brewer confirms that he has been traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Not sure what the New York Knicks are getting back.

[Pop]

Hard to decide whether OKC became worse or not by getting rid of Maynor... but losing depth could come back to bite them in the ass come playoff time.

No, you're probably trying to talk yourself into believing that, Chuckbrook is the closest thing to Robocop there is in this league anyway, they could probably play him 48 minutes if they wanted.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Blazers will send the draft rights of Giorgio Printezis to the Thunder as part of the Eric Maynor deal, source tells Y!

[loveforthegame]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Ronnie Brewer confirms that he has been traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Not sure what the New York Knicks are getting back.

Damn. Good trade for OKC.

[Pasta Batman]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Ronnie Brewer confirms that he has been traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Not sure what the New York Knicks are getting back.

Shit!

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) The New York Knicks have traded Ronnie Brewer to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a second-round pick. Brewer was just informed of the deal.

[bklynspursfan]

Knicks might be making space to go after K-Mart

[Spursfanfromafar]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Ronnie Brewer confirms that he has been traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Not sure what the New York Knicks are getting back.

Brewer is a good spot defender and will relieve Durant for defensive duties and will back up Sefolosha. It is a good pick up by Presti.

[cd98]

I don't think we can get someone off of waivers without waiving one of our own players.

[Despot]

correct me if i'm wrong, but teams can still be granted extensions to work out a trade as long as the framework is submitted before the deadline?

[Samr.]

I bet the Spurs wait to see who gets waived, then waive Blair and pick up one of those guys.

[cd98]

Brewer is a good spot defender and will relieve Durant for defensive duties and will back up Sefolosha. It is a good pick up by Presti.

Fortunately he is a terrible shooter.

[timtonymanu]

Brewer got traded to OKC. Fuck!

[BatManu20]

Just got here, I missed the trade deadline because of work. How the hell did J-Smoove not get traded? And wwhhy the hell do we still have Blair on the roster! Wtf R.C.

[Mel_13]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Blazers will send the draft rights of Giorgio Printezis to the Thunder as part of the Eric Maynor deal, source tells Y!

58th pick of the 2007 draft by the Spurs. Multiple transactions later, resulted in the draft pick used to select Blair in 2009.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So what. They don't play big minutes. Probably not even in the playoff rotation. There is value however in eating up some regular season minutes to keep everyone healthy. Again, so what.

Um, the past several years of the playoffs have shown us that Pop gets to the playoffs and think these guys are the answer come crunch time. And they've repeatedly failed, but he keeps squinting at Bonner and thinking it's a slightly less tan version of Robert Horry running around out there.

That's what.

[crc21209]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) The New York Knicks have traded Ronnie Brewer to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a second-round pick. Brewer was just informed of the deal.

Damn the Knicks are stupid. Wasnt Brewer starting at the beginning of the season?

[BatManu20]

And OKC got Brewer for a 2nd rounder? Damn what a horrible trade deadline for us..

[Mel_13]

Damn the Knicks are stupid. Wasnt Brewer starting at the beginning of the season?

His playing time disappeared when Shumpert returned.

[DesignatedT]

Brewer won't even get on the floor. He can't shoot either which is good for the Spurs. Leave his ass open.

[jesterbobman]

OKC had Charlotte's #31 pick, which is as strong a 2nd rounder as is available.

[Chinook]

If I thought any run-of-the-mill guard on another team could do his job better, I'd be in favor of JJ Redick or Booby Gibson joining the Spurs. That said, Manu and Jack are the starting-caliber twos on this team.

Jack as a two-guard ... funny.

[Bruno]

Brewer got traded to OKC. Fuck!

Well, it's Ronnie, not Corey.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

I'm sure this has been discussed already. But the Nets are making offers for Paul Pierce?

[cd98]

Well, it's Ronnie, not Corey.

Exactly. Corey is underrated and good. Ronnie can't shoot and was a good defender like five years ago when he played for Utah. While he was on the Bulls, if everyone can remember, the Bulls were constantly looking for a replacement. I don't see that trade as any kind of a game changer.

[benefactor]

I'm sure this has been discussed already. But the Nets are making offers for Paul Pierce?
That's kinda hard to do, since the deadline has passed.

[cd98]

I'm sure this has been discussed already. But the Nets are making offers for Paul Pierce?

It would be funny if they agreed to a deal an hour after the deadline.

[Chinook]

I'm sure this has been discussed already. But the Nets are making offers for Paul Pierce?

Not anymore.

[Obstructed_View]

Jack as a two-guard ... funny.

Not sure why you think it's funny. He's played the two plenty in his career, and he did it while Manu was out.

[DesignatedT]

Jack is more of a 4 now then a 2 :lol Way too slow.

[Bruno]

BTW, boring trade deadline. :td

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

It's ridiculous that J.J Reddick was the hottest commodity in at this trade deadline. & it's even more ridiculous, that the Raptors were probably the biggest winners, and all they got was Telfair. -____-;

[BatManu20]

Source: Atlanta Hawks blow up deal at last minute that would've sent Josh Smith to Milwaukee. Hawks would've re-
ceived Ekpe Udoh, Luc Mbah-Moute, Beno Udrih and a protected No. 1 pick. Can't imagine the Bucks are happy having invested so much time in trying to make it happen. Leaves big question now if Hawks can do better this summer.


Why would the Hawks not take this deal instead of letting him walk?? Danny Ferry, we taught you better than this.

[timvp]

Oh well. I'm glad the Spurs didn't give away Blair for nothing. He has more value than a salary dump or a late second rounder.

Even one great stretch in the playoffs in one game > late second round pick

[Chinook]

Not sure why you think it's funny. He's played the two plenty in his career, and he did it while Manu was out.

Diaw played the 3 this season, too. That's what non-starter-caliber players do when the starter-caliber players are out.

[Chinook]

Just to be clear, Jack used to be an effective two-guard. He just isn't good (read: fast) enough to start there now.

[will_spurs]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) The New York Knicks have traded Ronnie Brewer to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a second-round pick. Brewer was just informed of the deal.

:(

[cd98]

Oh well. I'm glad the Spurs didn't give away Blair for nothing. He has more value than a salary dump or a late second rounder.

Even one great stretch in the playoffs in one game > late second round pick

Well, you know the effort will be there because he's playing for a new contract, especially knowing that he's going to have to do something as a Spur.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

It was very surprising that all Dallas did, was switch scrubby SG's. I thought Cubes was going to go all out.

[cd98]

Source: Atlanta Hawks blow up deal at last minute that would've sent Josh Smith to Milwaukee. Hawks would've re-
ceived Ekpe Udoh, Luc Mbah-Moute, Beno Udrih and a protected No. 1 pick. Can't imagine the Bucks are happy having invested so much time in trying to make it happen. Leaves big question now if Hawks can do better this summer.


Can they trade his bird rights this summer so he can get a max or a sign and trade? Big question is whether there is a team in the league that would offer him the max. Probably not.

Why would the Hawks not take this deal instead of letting him walk?? Danny Ferry, we taught you better than this.

[cheguevara]

Oh well. I'm glad the Spurs didn't give away Blair for nothing. He has more value than a salary dump or a late second rounder.

Even one great stretch in the playoffs in one game > late second round pick

we are still talking about Blair??

[cd98]

It was very surprising that all Dallas did, was switch scrubby SG's. I thought Cubes was going to go all out.

He's got no assets to get a trade other than Dirk.

[timvp]

Ronnie Brewer hit a few fluke shots against the Spurs this season. He's actually pretty damn meh. His three-point range is iffy at best, his individual D isn't special and he has bad handles. All in all, if Brewer is on the court for the Thunder, that's a huge downgrade over anyone currently in their rotation.

Non-issue, tbh.

[romsho]

Um, the past several years of the playoffs have shown us that Pop gets to the playoffs and think these guys are the answer come crunch time. And they've repeatedly failed, but he keeps squinting at Bonner and thinking it's a slightly less tan version of Robert Horry running around out there.

That's what.

We'll see. What you're saying is true, the difference is those two guys are playing a lot less than in years past. Neither gets consistent minutes or are regular rotation players. I get your skepticism, but based on the roster and rotations this season, I'm not all that concerned. They are bench depth. Valuable bench depth at that.

[SenorSpur]

I imagine the Thunder's acquisition of Brewer is a desparate attempt to shore up their diminishing perimeter defense.

[DesignatedT]

I hope OKC trots out Brewer in the playoffs. Sag off him and focus on the stars. OKC brought in shooters like Cook last year who hit big shots because we left him open. Brewer can't shoot for shit. Not worried about his D.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) Golden State indeed made its two tax-shaving trades before 3 PM deadline: Jeremy Tyler to Atlanta and Charles Jenkins to Philly

[timvp]

Some small trades or still trickling in. We should probably wait another ~30 minutes before being 100% confidence the Spurs didn't make a trade.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Well, didn't someone say that the framework has to be submitted by the deadline? Whether it happens or not, isn't restricted by the deadline? That doesn't really seem valid, but hey.. here's to hoping. We never really did hear anything about that Atlanta/SA deal with Blair.

[Obstructed_View]

Diaw played the 3 this season, too. That's what non-starter-caliber players do when the starter-caliber players are out.

Yep, Danny Green starts when the starter-caliber players come off the bench. Jack's in the rotation as a small forward. Doesn't change the fact that he's better at Green's position than Green is.

[will_spurs]

I hope OKC trots out Brewer in the playoffs. Sag off him and focus on the stars. OKC brought in shooters like Cook last year who hit big shots because we left him open. Brewer can't shoot for shit. Not worried about his D.

Given the propensity of scrubs to shoot lights out against us, I'm not so sure that's advisable...

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Given the propensity of scrubs to shoot lights out against us, I'm not so sure that's advisable...

This.

[slick'81]

booo whack ass deadline

[will_spurs]

Some small trades or still trickling in. We should probably wait another ~30 minutes before being 100% confidence the Spurs didn't make a trade.

RT @JMcDonald_SAEN: For Spurs fans still clinging to hope of a blockbuster, just got official confirmation. Spurs have nothing in league trade hopper.

[Obstructed_View]

I hope OKC trots out Brewer in the playoffs. Sag off him and focus on the stars. OKC brought in shooters like Cook last year who hit big shots because we left him open. Brewer can't shoot for shit. Not worried about his D.

Sagging off Thunder players didn't work out so well last time, tbh.

[Pasta Batman]

Given the propensity of scrubs to shoot lights out against us, I'm not so sure that's advisable...

Cook (last season) is a good shooter
Ibaka is a good midrange shooter. So is Collison.

Brewer would be the best option to leave open for the midrange jumper if anyone.

[Pasta Batman]

Sagging off Thunder players didn't work out so well last time, tbh.

Depends who the shooter is.

[Obstructed_View]

Depends who the shooter is.

It didn't last year.

[freetiago]

Spurfans favorite word after heroball
"fluke shot"

every teams roleplayers since 08 just happen to hit "fluke" shots vs us while our role players wither away

[Chinook]

Yep, Danny Green starts when the starter-caliber players come off the bench. Jack's in the rotation as a small forward. Doesn't change the fact that he's better at Green's position than Green is.

Sure does. There's no reason to believe Jack is a better two than Green except what you want to believe based off the distant (in NBA terms) past and a handful of moments. Green is a starter-caliber two, as is Ginobili. Jack is a bench-caliber two and a starter-caliber three. Nothing wrong with that.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Source: Atlanta Hawks blow up deal at last minute that would've sent Josh Smith to Milwaukee. Hawks would've re-
ceived Ekpe Udoh, Luc Mbah-Moute, Beno Udrih and a protected No. 1 pick. Can't imagine the Bucks are happy having invested so much time in trying to make it happen. Leaves big question now if Hawks can do better this summer.


Why would the Hawks not take this deal instead of letting him walk?? Danny Ferry, we taught you better than this.

It is far from certain that he will walk for nothing. I think Ferry is hoping to entice Howard to Atlanta to play with his bud, J Smooth. He would probably agree to paying the max to Smith if it means getting Howard. If that doesn't work the signing team will still need to do a sign-and-trade in order for Smith to get the 5th year. Although the Milwaukee offer seemed pretty good to me, obviously Ferry thinks it is worth waiting for better.

[DesignatedT]

That's because they had guys who can shoot.

[Mel_13]

It is far from certain that he will walk for nothing. I think Ferry is hoping to entice Howard to Atlanta to play with his bud, J Smooth. He would probably agree to paying the max to Smith if it means getting Howard. If that doesn't work the signing team will still need to do a sign-and-trade in order for Smith to get the 5th year. Although the Milwaukee offer seemed pretty good to me, obviously Ferry thinks it is worth waiting for better.

That changed under the new CBA. Sign and trade contracts are limited to 4 yrs with the lower annual increases.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

If Green can finish at the rim like he did against the Kings, on a regular basis. Then he can be considered starting material.

[Pasta Batman]

It didn't last year.

I know, but the odds of that happening at that rate again are very low. Ibaka is a good midrange shooter though. And they don't have Cook anymore, thankfully.

[Obstructed_View]

Sure does. There's no reason to believe Jack is a better two than Green except what you want to believe based off the distant (in NBA terms) past and a handful of moments. Green is a starter-caliber two, as is Ginobili. Jack is a bench-caliber two and a starter-caliber three. Nothing wrong with that.

Translation: Jack's better, but don't look at the evidence. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

I know, but the odds of that happening at that rate again are very low. Ibaka is a good midrange shooter though. And they don't have Cook anymore, thankfully.

Let's hope so. It was mostly a joke, but I'm not real comfortable with the strategy of "leave X guy alone because he can't shoot". Most NBA players are good shooters if you don't go anywhere near them.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Golden State indeed made its two tax-shaving trades before 3 PM deadline: Jeremy Tyler to Atlanta and Charles Jenkins to Philly

I think Jeremy Tyler eventually will be a very good player. He is the player I was hoping the Spurs would draft instead of Corey Joseph. I would have done him for Blair and a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat.

[Chinook]

Translation: Jack's better, but don't look at the evidence. :lol

No. It means don't use the fact that he was a two in his prime as justification of why he's a two now. It also means don't use the fact that he hit threes against the Thunder as justification of him being better than Green when Jack was terrible for most of the stretch run.

And according to 82games.com Jack hasn't even played the two this season.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12SAS10.HTM

[Pasta Batman]

Let's hope so. It was mostly a joke, but I'm not real comfortable with the strategy of "leave X guy alone because he can't shoot". Most NBA players are good shooters if you don't go anywhere near them.

Spurs D focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shot. They'll have to do something about Ibaka midrangers, more often. However, they don't have Harden and that weakens Collison since they can't do p&r as often.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando.

[cd98]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando.

Does that mean the execs for the Wizards and the Bucks? Not sure if that is a compliment.

[BatManu20]

Kenyon Martin signing a 10 day contract with the Knicks, as expected.

[FlAVaK]

Marc J Spears: "Knicks have agreed to sign veteran forward Kenyon Martin to a 10-day contract, a source told Yahoo! Sports."

[timtonymanu]

Adding more Thuggets to the Knicks.

[Mel_13]

Kenyon Martin signing a 10 day contract with the Knicks, as expected.

So much for signing with a contender.

[Mel_13]

Adding more Thuggets to the Knicks.

:lol

4th member of the 07-08 Nuggets on the team. Maybe Iverson will make a comeback.

[timtonymanu]

:lol

I had Melo, JR, and K-Mart. But I totally forgot about Camby.

[palangi]

I think Jeremy Tyler eventually will be a very good player. He is the player I was hoping the Spurs would draft instead of Corey Joseph. I would have done him for Blair and a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat.

me too. i wish we could have used blair somehow to bring in tyler.

[Texas_Ranger]

:lol

I had Melo, JR, and K-Mart. But I totally forgot about Camby.

If only Billups was still in NY. They could play the Nuggets starting 5.

[Richie]

Blazers didn't even have to give up a draft pick for Maynor? They literally got him for nothing, great deal for the Blazers if true. Can't believe the Thunder gave him up so cheap

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Spurs D focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shot. They'll have to do something about Ibaka midrangers, more often. However, they don't have Harden and that weakens Collison since they can't do p&r as often.

No, Spurs STRATEGY focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shooter. When the defense leaves a guy completely open, that's a problem.

[Mel_13]

Blazers didn't even have to give up a draft pick for Maynor? They literally got him for nothing, great deal for the Blazers if true. Can't believe the Thunder gave him up so cheap

He had fallen out of the rotation and was on the last year of his rookie contract. They weren't going to keep him, so they just saved some money. Replaced him on the roster with a cheaper player in Ronnie Brewer.

[Pasta Batman]

No, Spurs STRATEGY focuses on giving the shot to the lowest percentage shooter. When the defense leaves a guy completely open, that's a problem.

But the midrange is that shot, usually occupied by the big. Obviously, Ibaka is a good shooting, big so that hurts a little bit against a team like that. The goal is not to give easy points, like layups and 3pt shots (especially from the Sean Ell iot positions).

[Pasta Batman]

He had fallen out of the rotation and was on the last year of his rookie contract. They weren't going to keep him, so they just saved some money. Replaced him on the roster with a cheaper player in Ronnie Brewer.

He never fully recovered from the ACL injury, which sucks for him, sadly.

[BatManu20]

I wish we whould've at least traded Blair for Omri Casspi. He only has one year left on his deal and is hardly plays in Cleveland. He's a 6'9" SF who can shoot the 3. Probably would flourish in our system. Disappointing.

[Russ]

I wish we whould've at least traded Blair for Omri Casspi. He only has one year left on his deal and is hardly plays in Cleveland. He's a 6'9" SF who can shoot the 3. Probably would flourish in our system. Disappointing.

Grab him over the summer. Him and Redick. And while we're at it, what's the status on Batum this summer?

[DPG21920]

I can't believe the Spurs offer for JJ couldn't beat what they accepted. I find that really hard to believe.

[jjktkk]

I can't believe the Spurs offer for JJ couldn't beat what they accepted. I find that really hard to believe.

Think Orlando liked the upside of Lamb and Harris. Two quality, young, prospects imo.

[crc21209]

I can't believe the Spurs offer for JJ couldn't beat what they accepted. I find that really hard to believe.

I said the same thing, although as much as we bash Blair and Bonner here I could see why they wouldn't take a package that included one of those guys...

[elemento]

Maybe Orlando likes Harris and Doron's potential. Not to mention that both are locked up to cheap rookie contracts.

And quite honestly, i couldn't care less about Redick. Overrated pure shooter just like Mike Miller.

[Mel_13]

I can't believe the Spurs offer for JJ couldn't beat what they accepted. I find that really hard to believe.

As others have said, they received two young players who each have two years remaining on their initial contracts. The Spurs have two such players, but trading Leonard and Joseph plus expirings to get JJ wouldn't have been a good idea.

[MR-Clutch]

Respectively disagree about him just being a pure shooter. He's more dynamic than that.

[CGD]

It still can't get over the Thompson trade to Houston, Wtf kings?