Secret hearing marks end of Duncans' union

[pivdro]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Tim-Duncan-granted-divorce-4746926.php (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Tim-Duncan-granted-divorce-4746926.php#photo-5069979)

[pivdro]

In filings on Tim Duncan's behalf, his lawyers even went as far as seeking information on a San Antonio personal trainer, Gilbert R. Urbano (http://www.mysanantonio.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Flocal&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Gilbert+R.+Urbano%22) Jr. and used private investigator Robert Pizzurro (http://www.mysanantonio.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Flocal&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Robert+Pizzurro%22) for that purpose, records show.

ok. so trainer part is confirmed. (amy, you're a bitch)

[Axegrinder]

Amy= Urbano Commando

[pivdro]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219557

the guy was a former stripper. amy bought him a gym (on timmy's money) and put him in charge.

Amy, former cheerleader, is walking cliche

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This one goes out to Amy on the request line...

6vwNcNOTVzY

[barakz21]

What's f'd up about it is that Amy didn't wanna marry TD, because she knew pro ballers get a lot of tail on the road (read it on an article someone posted here). But TD really courted her and they got married. Who woulda thunk it was Amy who was gonna go screwing around?

[pivdro]

What's f'd up about it is that Amy didn't wanna marry TD, because she knew pro ballers get a lot of tail on the road (read it on an article someone posted here). But TD really courted her and they got married. Who woulda thunk it was Amy who was gonna go screwing around?
that's exactly a telling sign. cheaters always suspect cause they know what it is to cheat. and also this shows her as untrusting, unloyal and insecure

[DMC]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.

[bklynspursfan]

https://www.facebook.com/ani.urbano

Gil Urbano

"In a relationship"

https://www.facebook.com/dourada.capoeira

Amy Dourada Capoeira

[pivdro]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.
so divorse then? what's the problem? oh yes, Timmy's money is too sweet. how without money could she bought her ex-stripper boy a gym?

are you fucking kidding

[pivdro]

Amy Dourada Capoeira translates like golden bird from portugese? golden bird indeed.

[DMC]

https://www.facebook.com/ani.urbano

Gil Urbano

"In a relationship"

https://www.facebook.com/dourada.capoeira

Amy Dourada Capoeira

It's a form of martial arts. Not a name.

[DMC]

so divorse then? what's the problem? oh yes, Timmy's money is too sweet. how without money could she bought her ex-stripper boy a gym?

are you fucking kidding
I'd bet you'd never mention it if you spoke with Tim or Amy.

[bklynspursfan]

It's a form of martial arts. Not a name.

I thought so but wasn't sure... lol I knew it sounded familiar. I saw this from the article "Amy Duncan aka Amy Dourada Capoeira’s " and looked it up

[pivdro]

I'd bet you'd never mention it if you spoke with Tim or Amy.
Gil is that you? how's gym business? Started from the bottom now we here" -- this is your song

[Dex]

In filings on Tim Duncan's behalf, his lawyers even went as far as seeking information on a San Antonio personal trainer, Gilbert R. Urbano Jr. and used private investigator Robert Pizzurro for that purpose, records show. Attempts to reach Pizzurro were unsuccessful Tuesday.

Should've hired Gene Parmesan.

[xellos88330]

^ or Richard Simmons.

[ohmwrecker]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.

What other kind of judgement could one make without a deeper, personal knowledge of the situation? Did you honestly expect rational analysis from people on a Spurs message board? I know you're not this naive to think Spurs fans wouldn't react in this manner, or narcissistic enough to think you could convince people to react in an objectively critical manner. Nobody here is going to have any sympathy for Amy, whether she deserves it or not.

[td4mvp2k]

What other kind of judgement could one make without a deeper, personal knowledge of the situation? Did you honestly expect rational analysis from people on a Spurs message board? I know you're not this naive to think Spurs fans wouldn't react in this manner, or narcissistic enough to think you could convince people to react in an objectively critical manner. Nobody here is going to have any sympathy for Amy, whether she deserves it or not.:lol

[kemak]

What other kind of judgement could one make without a deeper, personal knowledge of the situation? Did you honestly expect rational analysis from people on a Spurs message board? I know you're not this naive to think Spurs fans wouldn't react in this manner, or narcissistic enough to think you could convince people to react in an objectively critical manner. Nobody here is going to have any sympathy for Amy, whether she deserves it or not.

Very true!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4zc1fMLux1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

[kemak]

I just hope it doesn't get in his head next season too much. You know some other asshole player is gunna whisper something horrible to him in an important game.

[taps]

Ohm, you are just useless.

[ohmwrecker]

Ohm, you are just useless.

Hey, DMC.

[Obstructed_View]

Amy's the primary reason Timmy didn't sign with Orlando. With Timmy in SA, the Spurs won another title and SA built a new arena and the team stayed in town.

As a fan, I say it's worth a few million dollars of Timmy's money.

[Man In Black]

Now that THAT'S over...Let's just hope Tim comes back with Monster Focus. Even without it, he was 99.8% of the way there of winning his 5th ring.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS!

[UZER]

Now that THAT'S over...Let's just hope Tim comes back with Monster Focus. Even without it, he was 99.8% of the way there of winning his 5th ring.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS!

yes because he'll have to carry Manu's new ho-hum attitude too.

[weebo]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.

Probably the single most intelligent post you have ever made.

[spurs10]

I just hope it doesn't get in his head next season too much. You know some other asshole player is gunna whisper something horrible to him in an important game.
An angry Tim is a dangerous Tim.

[bklynspursfan]

An angry Tim is a dangerous Tim.

An angry Tim + a motivated in shape Tim... Can't wait to watch him again.

Jesse James Leija ‏@JesseJamesLeija (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija)3h (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija/status/370288802998128640)
@AndrewBorrego (https://twitter.com/AndrewBorrego) Tim's weight is great. He's already ripped .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSN8uSwCAAAKpbB.jpg

[DMC]

Hey, DMC.

Yeah I joined originally in 2008.

Ya got me.

[spurs10]

An angry Tim + a motivated in shape Tim... Can't wait to watch him again.

Jesse James Leija ‏@JesseJamesLeija (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija)3h (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija/status/370288802998128640)
@AndrewBorrego (https://twitter.com/AndrewBorrego) Tim's weight is great. He's already ripped .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSN8uSwCAAAKpbB.jpg:ihit

[DMC]

What other kind of judgement could one make without a deeper, personal knowledge of the situation? Did you honestly expect rational analysis from people on a Spurs message board? I know you're not this naive to think Spurs fans wouldn't react in this manner, or narcissistic enough to think you could convince people to react in an objectively critical manner. Nobody here is going to have any sympathy for Amy, whether she deserves it or not.

1. No judgement
2. So then your analysis is irrational
3. You're correct, but I can speak my mind just like you, regardless of the outcome.
4. I wasn't suggesting sympathy so let's not bifurcate.

[Obstructed_View]

Now can we find someone to cuck Manu's wife?

[anakha]

Now can we find someone to cuck Manu's wife?

Tony doing anything right now?

[rick1991]

:worthy::guin:worthy:
:ihit

[rayray2k8]

I wonder how hard he's been working since the finals ended.. I know with a lot of fans, losing the finals did not settle well with them, hell every once in awhile i think about it and it will always be the worse loss in spurs history. That being said, imagine how it felt for the players.. Especially Tim with the frustrated slap on the ground near the end of game 7.
Goddamnit, now its back on mind.. Football needs to start already. -_-

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Is this Amy's theme song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM

[Kidd K]

DMC is such a fuckin sellout that he's even defending Duncan's cheating ex-wife now? It ain't enough to bitch out and trash talk your own team just for pats on the ass by the trolls in the NBA Forum every day?

Faggot. He's gone all the way and officially become the Spurfan version of a house slave.

[rick1991]

I wonder how hard he's been working since the finals ended.. I know with a lot of fans, losing the finals did not settle well with them, hell every once in awhile i think about it and it will always be the worse loss in spurs history. That being said, imagine how it felt for the players.. Especially Tim with the frustrated slap on the ground near the end of game 7.
Goddamnit, now its back on mind.. Football needs to start already. -_-

Looks like Tim is doing everything in his power to give himself another shot at a ring. He looks to be in the best shape if his career.

[admiralsnackbar]

DMC is such a fuckin sellout that he's even defending Duncan's cheating ex-wife now? It ain't enough to bitch out and trash talk your own team just for pats on the ass by the trolls in the NBA Forum every day?

Faggot. He's gone all the way and officially become the Spurfan version of a house slave.

Reading fail. All he did was call out people for talking shit about things they don't know the first thing about. It's sad business, but none of ours.

[ohmwrecker]

1. No judgement
2. So then your analysis is irrational
3. You're correct, but I can speak my mind just like you, regardless of the outcome.
4. I wasn't suggesting sympathy so let's not bifurcate.

1. Not very realistic though.
2. What analysis?
3. Sure . . .
4. Divorce is a naturally bifurcating process.

[DMC]

1. Not very realistic though.
2. What analysis?
3. Sure . . .
4. Divorce is a naturally bifurcating process.
1. you asked
4. Perhaps, but out of context. The choices aren't limited to hate vs sympathy. There's also reserved judgement and a few other things.

[DMC]

DMC is such a fuckin sellout that he's even defending Duncan's cheating ex-wife now? It ain't enough to bitch out and trash talk your own team just for pats on the ass by the trolls in the NBA Forum every day?

Faggot. He's gone all the way and officially become the Spurfan version of a house slave.

Pretty sure Tim would tell you the same thing. He'd tell you to mind your fucking business but then you're likely too big of a pussy to ever confront someone F2F.

[ohmwrecker]

1. you asked
4. Perhaps, but out of context. The choices aren't limited to hate vs sympathy. There's also reserved judgement and a few other things.

I agree, for the most part, that's why I've been careful to judge, but I don't really expect that kind of caution from the majority of the board.

[Skull-1]

yes because he'll have to carry Manu's new ho-hum attitude too.

[Skull-1]

No end of the union in God's sight. Just sayin.

[sandman]

No end of the union in God's sight. Just sayin.

Matthew 19:9 and Jesus would disagree with you

[Kidd K]

Pretty sure Tim would tell you the same thing. He'd tell you to mind your fucking business but then you're likely too big of a pussy to ever confront someone F2F.

Speaking of people who would very likely be too pussy to ever confront someone face to face, hello DMC. Duncan wouldn't say shit to me either if he heard what I just said anyway, so why would I fear his reply? :lol Nonsensical comment.

Oh, and you repeatedly making that rehashed, template comment about random interneters being "too pussy to do shit irl" to people you don't even know is exactly the same thing you were bitching about here in the first place. Only in your case it's even worse since you're taking no data or information at all and jumping to a random conclusion completely irrationally. So you're a hypocrite as well as a lying sellout bitch who doesn't keep his word. Congrats on the trifecta of faggotry.

[Skoobz]

Fuck that Ho.

[barakz21]

An angry Tim + a motivated in shape Tim... Can't wait to watch him again.

Jesse James Leija ‏@JesseJamesLeija (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija)3h (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija/status/370288802998128640)
@AndrewBorrego (https://twitter.com/AndrewBorrego) Tim's weight is great. He's already ripped .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSN8uSwCAAAKpbB.jpg

Whoaaaahhhhhh.. That's the most ripped I've ever seen TD

[I. Hustle]

Whoaaaahhhhhh.. That's the most ripped I've ever seen TD

http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2010/10/tim-duncan-spanx.jpg

[spurspokesman]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.+1

[kyleutsa]

https://www.facebook.com/ani.urbano

Gil Urbano

"In a relationship"

https://www.facebook.com/dourada.capoeira

Amy Dourada Capoeira

Fuck that dude, I really hope people flood his page, and it would be sad for San Antonio to allow his gym to thrive here...

[Skull-1]

Matthew 19:9 and Jesus would disagree with you

Wrong. Mat 19:9 speaks of betrothal. Reference Matthew 1. The word for adultery is moichea. Jesus used porneia which refers to premarital sex. Joseph wanted to quietly divorce his espoused "wife" during betrothal for porneia because she was with child. That is why Jesus is mocked in John 8:41 as a child of fornication (porneia).

There is no grounds for divorce from a covenant spouse for a Christian. The notion there is comes from Erasmus and Luther, not Christ and Paul.

[4lifecowboy]

Wrong. Mat 19:9 speaks of betrothal. Reference Matthew 1. The word for adultery is moichea. Jesus used porneia which refers to premarital sex. Joseph wanted to quietly divorce his espoused "wife" during betrothal for porneia because she was with child. That is why Jesus is mocked in John 8:41 as a child of fornication (porneia).

There is no grounds for divorce from a covenant spouse for a Christian. The notion there is comes from Erasmus and Luther, not Christ and Paul.

Are you greek?

[Skull-1]

Are you greek? No. Just a mere apostle with an in depth knowledge of scripture. Slaying pastors and stupid ignorant so-called Christians is my specialty. The scriptures demand repentance and reconciliation, not divorce and never remarriage.

[gospursgojas]

210-819-4770

I called and asked if the owner Tim was in...they hung up on me.

[benefactor]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/CrossFit-The-Vessel/484427271597125

Enjoy.

[4lifecowboy]

No. Just a mere apostle with an in depth knowledge of scripture. Slaying pastors and stupid ignorant so-called Christians is my specialty. The scriptures demand repentance and reconciliation, not divorce and never remarriage.

What? What a waste of a gift. The Word is not for tearing down, but building up.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Wrong. Mat 19:9 speaks of betrothal. Reference Matthew 1. The word for adultery is moichea. Jesus used porneia which refers to premarital sex. Joseph wanted to quietly divorce his espoused "wife" during betrothal for porneia because she was with child. That is why Jesus is mocked in John 8:41 as a child of fornication (porneia).

There is no grounds for divorce from a covenant spouse for a Christian. The notion there is comes from Erasmus and Luther, not Christ and Paul.
Hi

I have recently had some trouble in my life and have strayed away from god because of the demons haunting me. As a veteran I know you have lots of experience helping people, can you help me get back in touch with Jesus?

[Skull-1]

What? What a waste of a gift. The Word is not for tearing down, but building up.


Building up, yes, but only if you accept it. All scripture....all all all....scripture is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness. Paul commanded us to be hard on people who refuse to respond to correction and reproof. When pastors lie I don't mince words when they show defiance to Christ. The Word is sharper than any two edged sword and Pharisitical liars don't respond to truth with much humility.... I am extremely compassionate with the humble. But not with stubborn liars.

We have been hoodwinked on many things by the so called modern church. Divorce and remarriage is just the easiest one to see. The Deception Clause is what Matthew 19:9 is. Twisted by people with an agenda.

[DMC]

Speaking of people who would very likely be too pussy to ever confront someone face to face, hello DMC. Duncan wouldn't say shit to me either if he heard what I just said anyway, so why would I fear his reply? :lol Nonsensical comment.

Oh, and you repeatedly making that rehashed, template comment about random interneters being "too pussy to do shit irl" to people you don't even know is exactly the same thing you were bitching about here in the first place. Only in your case it's even worse since you're taking no data or information at all and jumping to a random conclusion completely irrationally. So you're a hypocrite as well as a lying sellout bitch who doesn't keep his word. Congrats on the trifecta of faggotry.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj273/brl131psu/midgetdancing2.gif

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Whenever I see one of Kidd K's rants it gives the vibe of "angry fat be@ner"

[ElNono]

:lol

[UZER]

210-819-4770

I called and asked if the owner Tim was in...they hung up on me.

Hahaha...thats awesome!!

[Kidd K]

Whenever I see one of Kidd K's rants it gives the vibe of "angry fat be@ner"

You've got to be dumb as fuck if you think two short paragraphs is a "rant". Must be one of those people who whine any time somebody uses a "big word" and think they're trying to sound smart when that's just how normal people speak.



http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj273/brl131psu/midgetdancing2.gif

Obviously you did read, then realized you got ripped a new asshole so you're pretending you didn't read it since you had no rational reply. Pretty boring shtick.

[benefactor]

Whenever I see one of Kidd K's rants it gives the vibe of "angry fat be@ner"
You can almost smell the sweat mixed with taco meat through the screen.

[thunderup]

You can almost smell the sweat mixed with taco meat through the screen.

Partner you have replaced Clipper Nation as the forum's top sycophant. Congrats, you sellout faggot.

[ElNono]

Partner you have replaced Clipper Nation as the forum's top sycophant. Congrats, you sellout faggot.

sup thunderup

[thunderup]

sup thunderup

Howdy partner

[benefactor]

Partner you have replaced Clipper Nation as the forum's top sycophant. Congrats, you sellout faggot.
Nice word usage. Did you look that one up while you were sitting around waiting for a random jogger?

[thunderup]

Nice word usage. Did you look that one up while you were sitting around waiting for a random jogger?

I'm surprised you were able to get through typing that sentence without mistakingly typing an additional letter with your fat Eastern Texan obese self.

[RD2191]

I'm surprised you were able to get through typing that sentence without mistakingly typing an additional letter with your fat Eastern Texan obese self.
:lmao

[benefactor]

I'm surprised you were able to get through typing that sentence without mistakingly typing an additional letter with your fat Eastern Texan obese self.
It's mistakenly, meth sores.

[Skull-1]

You've got to be dumb as fuck if you think two short paragraphs is a "rant". Must be one of those people who whine any time somebody uses a "big word" and think they're trying to sound smart when that's just how normal people speak.




Obviously you did read, then realized you got ripped a new asshole so you're pretending you didn't read it since you had no rational reply. Pretty boring shtick.


Lol! Right on!

[Skull-1]

Hahaha...thats awesome!!


+1

[milkyway21]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Tim-Duncan-granted-divorce-4746926.php (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Tim-Duncan-granted-divorce-4746926.php#photo-5069979)


Urbano told the Express-News he was “unfamiliar” with why his name appeared repeatedly in the Duncan's divorce proceedings, including why one document asks a judge for an order barring Urbano from being “around the children at any time or at any place, including permitting him to be in the same house or work establishment or school or social function as the children, whether the children are asleep or awake.”

This is good. Tim Duncan doesn't care about his wife anymore, he just wants his children to stay away or associate with Urbano. And that guy has the audacity to ask that ? Such a moron.
He did not just destroy his marriage but the two of them tried to disrespect his name & reputation. Why not just ask for a divorce then go! :wakeup

[HI-FI]

Amy's the primary reason Timmy didn't sign with Orlando. With Timmy in SA, the Spurs won another title and SA built a new arena and the team stayed in town.

As a fan, I say it's worth a few million dollars of Timmy's money.

i hear this all the time, but did it really come down to Amy? I read somewhere that Pop and him had some beers at Tim's place and came to an agreement and understanding.

if it was truly because of Amy that Tim stayed in SA, we should pay our respects and hang her panties from the rafters ....tbh.

[exstatic]

i hear this all the time, but did it really come down to Amy? I read somewhere that Pop and him had some beers at Tim's place and came to an agreement and understanding.

if it was truly because of Amy that Tim stayed in SA, we should pay our respects and hang her panties from the rafters ....tbh.

The story was that during the Orlando visit, Tim was told that spouses/GFs never get to ride on the team plane by Doc himself and it was non-negotiable. The Spurs allow them to fly a couple of times a year, as long as it isn't abused.

[Obstructed_View]

i hear this all the time, but did it really come down to Amy? I read somewhere that Pop and him had some beers at Tim's place and came to an agreement and understanding.

if it was truly because of Amy that Tim stayed in SA, we should pay our respects and hang her panties from the rafters ....tbh.

The only reason there was any opening for agreements and understandings is because the scales were tipped by Orlando not allowing Amy on flights.

[JRHernandez88]

AN ANGRY TIMMY!! http://imageshack.us/a/img502/2132/qq4y2s.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsTAwvk5VgU

FUCK THAT HO!

ADD THAT TO A LOSS IN THE FINALS, TIMMYS GONA BE A MONSTER AGAIN NEXT SEASON http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6501/goeshard.gif

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Sounds like Tim always had Amy first. Just makes all this more sad.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Fuck that dude, I really hope people flood his page, and it would be sad for San Antonio to allow his gym to thrive here...

Those two should be forced to leave the city of San Antonio.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

So Amy got the house I'm assuming?

[dbreiden83080]

So sad.. From the outside Tim appeared to have the perfect life but you never know what is going on behind the scenes. He'll probably marry again because he is just so classy and they will all be throwing themselves at 21 now..

[dbreiden83080]

An angry Tim + a motivated in shape Tim... Can't wait to watch him again.

Jesse James Leija ‏@JesseJamesLeija (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija)3h (https://twitter.com/JesseJamesLeija/status/370288802998128640)
@AndrewBorrego (https://twitter.com/AndrewBorrego) Tim's weight is great. He's already ripped .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSN8uSwCAAAKpbB.jpg

Duncan's laser focus is just amazing.. The Man is never ever ever out of shape...

[Skull-1]

So sad.. From the outside Tim appeared to have the perfect life but you never know what is going on behind the scenes. He'll probably marry again because he is just so classy and they will all be throwing themselves at 21 now..

Remarriage while a covenant spouse lives is adultery. I hope they reconcile like Christians are commanded to.


1 Cor 7 - Remain unmarried (chaste) or be reconciled...

[DMC]

Nice word usage. Did you look that one up while you were sitting around waiting for a random jogger?

:lmao

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

DMC and ohm are actually both right, no need for a bitch fight! :lol

Tim and Amy were married 12 years and had kids together, it's simply a sad fact that about half of marriages end in divorce. As a child of divorce, I just hope they stay civil for the kids' sake, even though Amy is a cheatin ho... :lmao

[Ice009]

Good to see you Ruff. What is your take on the season and finals after letting it sit these last two months or so?

[LkrFan]

210-819-4770 (tel:210-819-4770)

I called and asked if the owner Tim was in...they hung up on me.
:rollin :lmao :rollin

[kyleutsa]

Those two should be forced to leave the city of San Antonio.

Totally agree!!

[kyleutsa]

Just left a friendly comment on Mr. Gils page , pretty sure it gets deleted asap haha

[Skull-1]

DMC and ohm are actually both right, no need for a bitch fight! :lol

Tim and Amy were married 12 years and had kids together, it's simply a sad fact that about half of marriages end in divorce. As a child of divorce, I just hope they stay civil for the kids' sake, even though Amy is a cheatin ho... :lmao


Closer to two thirds now.

[Biernutz]

Did Tim get the speed shop?

[aal04]

May Tim's organ be forever lodged in an endless queue of 10/10 hbb.

[Buddy Mignon]

Fuck all you Amy haters. Amy... I know you frequent this site so hit me up when you get a chance. Aint no cucking in this playa.

[007nites]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529259_568244013215450_1837293651_n.jpg

[porscha]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529259_568244013215450_1837293651_n.jpg

puke......they sure having fun with timmy's money !

amy whore

[Skull-1]

Who is the dude in pink tights?


scary.

[porscha]

Who is the dude in pink tights?


scary.

that's the one! amy's xxxx

[xmas1997]

No comment!

[Texas_Ranger]

lol and she said Tim's gay....

[Skull-1]

Why do wife stealers always look like that? Good grief. Loser!!!!

[dbreiden83080]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529259_568244013215450_1837293651_n.jpg

Uhhh what??? :lol

[Stringer_Bell]

Gil's a guy that likes to have fun, occassionally in pink spandex.

Amy still looks foxy, she's got another good 5-6 years left before the age starts to show.

All respect to Timmy for whooping ass all season while this shit was going down, can't wait to see what he does next season.

[Strategic]

Where's Bucky?

[Skull-1]

Gil's a guy that likes to have fun, occassionally in pink spandex.

Amy still looks foxy, she's got another good 5-6 years left before the age starts to show.

All respect to Timmy for whooping ass all season while this shit was going down, can't wait to see what he does next season.

Pink tights and a reverse strap on, tbh.

Amy, well... Yep. She still has it. Rockin' it in thigh highs. 'Course guys would still tap my ex but she's losing it fast and she's younger than Amy.

gil is grabbin' some girl on the behind. Who she?


NOW IF WE CAN JUST FIND SOMEONE TO STEAL MANU's WIFE so he can remember how to play then we will be champs!

[Sigz]

Amy has got a donk on her.

Doggy style plz.

[Skull-1]

Amy has got a donk on her.

Doggy style plz.

Her legs are actually less feminine than the homewrecker's, truth be told. Ewwwww. I need a shower as that thought makes me feel gross.

[marbles1991]

that's the one! amy's xxxx

This dude is supposed to own a gym? LOL looks like he skips leg day

[xmas1997]

It is what it is, divorces are usually ugly, no exception here. It's the kids who suffer the most.

[Brazil]

NOW IF WE CAN JUST FIND SOMEONE TO STEAL MANU's WIFE so he can remember how to play then we will be champs!

Call Tony

[mbass]

Call Tony

This Gil person has the worst front teeth I think I've seen in a long time - they look like mismatched caps and they are buck. Would you want to kiss that mouth? UGH, gross.

[Spursfan092120]

You folks talk a lot of shit about people you've never even met. You've no idea about their marriage, if they grew apart over the years or anything else that goes on behind their closed doors. You just look at one aspect of a person and pop out a binary judgement.
She cheated on him...and used his money to set up a gym and hired the guy she cheated on Tim with...you cool with that?

[Brazil]

This Gil person has the worst front teeth I think I've seen in a long time - they look like mismatched caps and they are buck. Would you want to kiss that mouth? UGH, gross.

Gif ? wut ?

[Skull-1]

Call Tony


Lol!

[Spursfan092120]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/CrossFit-The-Vessel/484427271597125

Enjoy.

Austin Barua

***** 10/10 would bang another man's wife again

about 2 weeks ago.

lmao...alright..who was this?

[dbreiden83080]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529259_568244013215450_1837293651_n.jpg

Her Children must be so proud.. Amy will be greeted with giggles and whispers for every restaurant she walks into for the next 20 years.. Especially if she walks in with Mr. Pink Hot pants..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Good to see you Ruff. What is your take on the season and finals after letting it sit these last two months or so?

My take is that, although I'm sad as fuck our team couldn't get over the hump, it was one of the great Finals series of all time, and our guys could not have done anything more than they did.

We could debate sitting Duncan in game 6 all day and night, but why bother? Pop made the orthodox call in that situation, and but for LBJ bricking the first 3 so badly it came off Kawhi's hands, we would've won game 6. Bah fucking humbug, but I couldn't be prouder of the SPurs - if you're going to lose, go down fighting all the way like they did. :ihit

Sadly, I said Spurs in 6 or Heat in 7 many times on ST in the lead up to the series, and I couldn't have been more spot on... :depressed

[NickiRasgo]

Really? Timmy didn't deserved that. Spurs should've won that. Still can't move on. Game 6 still plays in my mind. :depressed

[NickiRasgo]

Her Children must be so proud.. Amy will be greeted with giggles and whispers for every restaurant she walks into for the next 20 years.. Especially if she walks in with Mr. Pink Hot pants..

Agree! F*ck you Amy!

[DMC]

She cheated on him...and used his money to set up a gym and hired the guy she cheated on Tim with...you cool with that?

He married her and throughout the years she's been with him, he's either not paid attention or didn't give a shit that she was drifting away. She's probably in the upper percentile of outcomes when a wealthy man divorces his wife: she took some of his money and gave it to someone else. Shocking. Yeah I'm up in arms over it and goddamn it I'm not going to stand for it.

[xmas1997]

The best thing you could do is just close this thread because usually nothing good comes from divorce issues, besides, it is personal and really none of our business unless of course we are just nosy busybodies who enjoy meddling in other people's private lives.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

He married her and throughout the years she's been with him, he's either not paid attention or didn't give a shit that she was drifting away. She's probably in the upper percentile of outcomes when a wealthy man divorces his wife: she took some of his money and gave it to someone else. Shocking. Yeah I'm up in arms over it and goddamn it I'm not going to stand for it.

You are a complete and utter idiot. Do us all a favor and delete your account.

[Biernutz]

When Tim photo is in the news with his new girlfriend it will be "Amy who?"...

[DMC]

You are a complete and utter idiot. Do us all a favor and delete your account.

:lmao You faggots who worship a professional athlete who makes millions. He wouldn't stop on the street to sign an autograph for you, dipshit. Do you think he gives a fuck about your relationship?

Idiot.

[xmas1997]

You are all arguing over things that are really none of your business. Divorces are usually very ugly, and that is a fact.
And they are personal and none of our business, thus we outsiders never have all the facts, nor should we.
Let it be, it is what it is!

[Skull-1]

You are all arguing over things that are really none of your business. Divorces are usually very ugly, and that is a fact.
And they are personal and none of our business, thus we outsiders never have all the facts, nor should we.
Let it be, it is what it is!


If we are Christians and the divorce is between Christians you better believe we have a role. Unfortunately, too many believe that role is encouraging the "innocent" party to move on. A lie.

[xmas1997]

If we are Christians and the divorce is between Christians you better believe we have a role. Unfortunately, too many believe that role is encouraging the "innocent" party to move on. A lie.

Who are you to judge? Seriously!
If you are truly a Christian and go by Christian values and tenets, then you have no right to judge, or rather cast the first stone. As a true Christian shouldn't you be praying for them rather than judging them?
I won't go into whether divorce is right or wrong. It is most hurtful to the kids in any case.
Besides, it's none of your or my business. That is between them and their Maker Who is the only One Who may judge......
unless of course you consider yourself greater than God. You do sound very judgmental, maybe too much for your own good, from reading some of your ridiculous posts in this forum although not as insane as the great yacht or kobyz, but just as illiterate and prejudicial!
Ignorance is my pet peeve, and religious ignorance and intolerance are the worst kinds.

[kobexxx]

whats this

[DesignatedT]

/religion board

[xmas1997]

whats this

Was referring to kobyz, not you, or are you the same poster?

[Skull-1]

Who are you to judge? Seriously!
If you are truly a Christian and go by Christian values and tenets, then you have no right to judge, or rather cast the first stone. As a true Christian shouldn't you be praying for them rather than judging them?
I won't go into whether divorce is right or wrong. It is most hurtful to the kids in any case.
Besides, it's none of your or my business. That is between them and their Maker Who is the only One Who may judge......
unless of course you consider yourself greater than God. You do sound very judgmental, maybe too much for your own good, from reading some of your ridiculous posts in this forum although not as insane as the great yacht or kobyz, but just as illiterate and prejudicial!
Ignorance is my pet peeve, and religious ignorance and intolerance are the worst kinds.

You are wrong again. No shock there. Read your bible. We are commanded to judge righteously by Christ's standard those WITHIN THE CHURCH and leave those OUTSIDE to God. You are a typical brainwashed false gospel, God hating, divorce loving so-called Christian.

[xmas1997]

You are wrong again. No shock there. Read your bible. We are commanded to judge righteously by Christ's standard those WITHIN THE CHURCH and leave those OUTSIDE to God. You are a typical brainwashed false gospel, God hating, divorce loving so-called Christian.

And you sir, are a narrow minded bigoted ignorant poor excuse for a Christian, the worse kind.
You should be ashamed of yourself!
I am ashamed you call yourself a Christian, as am I.:nope

The bible also says do not judge lest ye be judged, and I've already given you the referrence about casting the first stone which is just the tip of the iceberg on not making judgements (see Mary Magdalene). As I said, since you apparently are too dense and ignorant to read, I'm not making a call on the rightness or wrongness of the people involved in the divorce. I personally don't believe in divorce. But I don't judge others' actions and make ignorant comments about them.

IMHO ignorance of this nature should be a mortal sin, especially in this day and age of Enlightenment.
But who am I to judge, especially if you are seeking the light of God (or whatever you believe) in your own way.

[taps]

If we are Christians and the divorce is between Christians you better believe we have a role. Unfortunately, too many believe that role is encouraging the "innocent" party to move on. A lie.

I'm Jewslamic.

[xmas1997]

I'm Jewslamic.

:lmao. Fantastic!

[Skull-1]

No, it says do not judge UNrighteously. For by the UNrighteous standard you judge so shall you be judged. What you fail to recognize in your ignorance is all will be judged by the Lord's standard, which both Jesus and Paul COMMANDED US to use on those within the church. Otherwise, why would Paul have bothered to tell us to not associate with unrepentant sinners in the church, you clueless clown?

[xmas1997]

No, it says do not judge UNrighteously. For by the UNrighteous standard you judge so shall you be judged. What you fail to recognize in your ignorance is all will be judged by the Lord's standard, which both Jesus and Paul COMMANDED US to use on those within the church. Otherwise, why would Paul have bothered to tell us to not associate with unrepentant sinners in the church, you clueless clown?

Whatever! You only hear and believe what you want to hear and believe regardless of the truth. So be it.

[Skull-1]

Spiritual things are folly to the carnal. You simply cite scripture out of context and dismiss what doesn't line up with your brainwashed false gospel nonsense.

[xmas1997]

Spiritual things are folly to the carnal. You simply cite scripture out of context and dismiss what doesn't line up with your brainwashed false gospel nonsense.

No, you and I will be judged by our acts, so why don't you start acting like a true non-judgmental Christian instead of pulling up bits and pieces of gospel to support your arguments, anyone can do that, but to walk the talk is truly where it's at regardless of what any great book says. There are many great non-Christians who make quite a few of us bible spouting Christians appear really evil just by acts alone!

[Skull-1]

No, you and I will be judged by our acts, so why don't you start acting like a true non-judgmental Christian instead of pulling up bits and pieces of gospel to support your arguments, anyone can do that, but to walk the talk is truly where it's at regardless of what any great book says. There are many great non-Christians who make quite a few of us bible spouting Christians appear really evil just by acts alone!










Blah blah blah. Paul said we must be hard on such people. People like you who turn the truth of God into a lie. All will be judged by God and if we don't warn our brothers of their sin we are held to account. We are NOT to associate with known sin. "Expel the evil one from among you. If he repents welcome him back. Otherwise with such a one do not even eat."




Rebuke them severely in the presence of all so that others may be afraid...." and thus be righteous.




As Jesus said in Matthew 18 near verse 17, treat them like a tax collector. That's an insult, BTW.

[benefactor]

Blah blah blah. Paul said we must be hard on such people. People like you who turn the truth of God into a lie. All will be judged by God and if we don't warn our brothers of their sin we are held to account. We are NOT to associate with known sin. "Expel the evil one from among you. If he repents welcome him back. Otherwise with such a one do not even eat."




Rebuke them severely in the presence of all so that others may be afraid...." and thus be righteous.




As Jesus said in Matthew 18 near verse 17, treat them like a tax collector. That's an insult, BTW.
Shut the fuck up, shit for brains.

[Skull-1]

Shut the fuck up, shit for brains.

Kiss my a--.

[Skull-1]

I've been a Christian since birth. I always had a problem with giving 10% of your income. That's more than a down payment on a home. I call bullshit just like Santa Clause.


It is bs. It was a Levitical thing, not a Christian one. Another lie they tell you in church. Also, it is the tenth one under the rod, not a tenth. So if you only had nine cows you tithed nothing.

[benefactor]

Kiss my a--.
So noble and religious, editing out the cuss word. I'll tell you what you self-righteous cocksucker, you can take all your fundamentalist bullshit and preach it while I fuck your mom and sisters in front of you. Then I will pull out and blow my wad right between your eyes while you recite the 23rd Psalm.

[Skull-1]

So noble and religious, editing out the cuss word. I'll tell you what you self-righteous cocksucker, you can take all your fundamentalist bullshit and preach it while I fuck your mom and sisters in front of you. Then I will pull out and blow my wad right between your eyes while you recite the 23rd Psalm.

Yawn....

It is not a cuss word. It is just a word you wretched, blind, dumb, naked, moronic, carnal, insipid troll. Put that herpatic, diseased thing anywhere near me and I will slice it off and feed you with it. I doubt it is big enough to even qualify as an appetizer but...

[xmas1997]

Yawn....

It is not a cuss word. It is just a word you wretched, blind, dumb, naked, moronic, carnal, insipid troll.

Look who's calling who a troll.
Yup, I remember my first beer too.

[benefactor]

Yawn....

It is not a cuss word. It is just a word you wretched, blind, dumb, naked, moronic, carnal, insipid troll.
Oh noes...don't insult me anymore Mr. Preacher. Do you go to one of those churches where the pastor is fucking the secretary and patrons sneak up into the choir and give the singers head under their robes while they Surrender All?

[Skull-1]

Look who's calling who a troll.
Yup, I remember my first beer too.


Do you have anything original to say you clueless child?

[Skull-1]

Oh noes...don't insult me anymore Mr. Preacher. Do you go to one of those churches where the pastor is fucking the secretary and patrons sneak up into the choir and give the singers head under their robes while they Surrender All?

I don't go to churches, herpes boy. Those guys are all liars. Haven't met one that knows anything about the gospel, just like you and your clown friend, Xmas here.

[xmas1997]

Do you have anything original to say you clueless child?

That's your best come back, huh?
It's pointless trying to debate with the self-righteous, they make up for their ignorance by quoting scripture instead of doing righteous acts.

[Skull-1]

That's your best come back, huh?
It's pointless trying to debate with the self-righteous, they make up for their ignorance by quoting scripture instead of doing righteous acts.


You can't even define righteous acts. Or good from bad. You are a carnal, blind, scripturally illiterate BEAST (unreasoning animal). You don't even get kindergarten much less the deeper mysteries. Totally hopeless.

[benefactor]

I don't go to churches, herpes boy. Those guys are all liars. Haven't met one that knows anything about the gospel, just like you and your clown friend, Xmas here.
Ahh...so you are one of those, "only I know the truth" guys. I'm sure you will soon be leading a group where all the women are your wives and you spend your spare time playing "touch the furry snake" with the kids you produce.

[xmas1997]

You can't even define righteous acts. Or good from bad. You are a carnal, blind, scriptural lay illiterate BEAST (unreasoning animal). You don't even get kindergarten much less the deeper mysteries. Totally hopeless.

Please just take your toys and go back to your room and be a nice little boy.

[Skull-1]

Ahh...so you are one of those, "only I know the truth" guys. I'm sure you will soon be leading a group where all the women are your wives and you spend your spare time playing "touch the furry snake" with the kids you produce.

That isn't how it works, idiot. The worldly definition of church and fellowship is pagan at best.

There isn't a pastor alive that I've met who has even a fraction of what I know. It is all right there in the scriptures. They say don't judge, just like your boy here, when judgment is actually commanded. The very definition of what scripture is for REQUIRES judgment. It is there in black and white. But they prefer their fables and traditions. They can't even define a good tree from a bad one.

So, no, I am not the only one who knows the truth, but I have met very very few who do, and none were pastors. If few few few find the truth, as scripture says, how do you explain all these huge denominations that don't even understand UNTIL DEATH DO US PART? Ridiculous in the extreme.


Now, go pay your tithes little big mouth.

[xmas1997]

That isn't how it works, idiot. The worldly definition of church and fellowship is pagan at best.

There isn't a pastor alive that I've met who has even a fraction of what I know. It is all right there in the scriptures. They say don't judge, just like your boy here, when judgment is actually commanded. The very definition of what scripture is for REQUIRES judgment. It is there in black and white. But they prefer their fables and traditions. They can't even define a good tree from a bad one.

So, no, I am not the only one who knows the truth, but I have met very very few who do, and none were pastors. If few few few find the truth, as scripture says, how do explain all these huge denominations that don't even understand UNTIL DEATH DO USNPART? Ridiculous in the extreme.


Now, go pay your tithes little big mouth.

You might try practicing being a better Christian instead of a self-righteous asshole, it will set you free, else you will be judged much harsher in the end by your Maker.

[benefactor]

:lol...whatever you say, Koresh. Just let me know where your compound is when you set it up so I never move anywhere close to it. Give all your wives and penis touching kids my regards.

[xmas1997]

:lol...whatever you say, Koresh. Just let me know where your compound is when you set it up so I never move anywhere close to it. Give all your wives and penis touching kids my regards.

Wow, that's pretty harsh, benefactor, even for a self-righteous douchbag like him, don't you think?
We don't need to stoop to his level to make our point. He is what he is and the more he posts, the more he strengthens our argument, in other words give him enough rope and he'll hang himself with it.
However he is probably the kind who would complain he didn't get a brand new rope to do it with.
:lol

[benefactor]

Fuck him.

[Skull-1]

You might try practicing being a better Christian instead of a self-righteous asshole, it will set you free, else you will be judged much harsher in the end by your Maker.

I will be judged, but not for calling you an idiot. Which you are.

[Skull-1]

Wow, that's pretty harsh, benefactor, even for a self-righteous douchbag like him, don't you think?
We don't need to stoop to his level to make our point. He is what he is and the more he posts, the more he strengthens our argument, in other words give him enough rope and he'll hang himself with it.
However he is probably the kind who would complain he didn't get a brand new rope to do it with.
:lol


Stoop to my level? You think righteous judgment is a sin! Lmao.

As for benefactor, well, it is obvious how sick he is mentally. No need to even debate it. Creepy.

[anakha]

...yeah, this thread has pretty much run its course. Gas it already.

[Skull-1]

Reminds me of you two clowns: Jude 8Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties. 9But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed. 11Woe to them!

[xmas1997]

Stoop to my level? You think righteous judgment is a sin! Lmao.

As for benefactor, well, it is obvious how sick he is mentally. No need to even debate it. Creepy.

Of course it's a sin, one of pride. Now who's the idiot? That rope is getting closer.

[Spursfan092120]

He married her and throughout the years she's been with him, he's either not paid attention or didn't give a shit that she was drifting away. She's probably in the upper percentile of outcomes when a wealthy man divorces his wife: she took some of his money and gave it to someone else. Shocking. Yeah I'm up in arms over it and goddamn it I'm not going to stand for it.
I'm not up in arms about it...but you're still not being logical here. She didn't just "give it to someone else." She gave it to the man she was fucking...that was NOT him. She took some of his money and gave it to the guy she was cheating on him with. That's fucked up. As hard as you try, there's no way you can make sense out of this, or turn this into anything other than she's a gold digging bitch who crossed the line.

[benefactor]

And having lots of wives and young boys play with your man parts is not creepy?

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao You faggots who worship a professional athlete who makes millions. He wouldn't stop on the street to sign an autograph for you, dipshit. Do you think he gives a fuck about your relationship?

Idiot.
Ironically, he did stop on the street to sign an autograph for me. But that's not the point. This isn't about worshipping anybody. If I saw this shit on the news I'd say it's fucked up.

[Spursfan092120]

No, it says do not judge UNrighteously. For by the UNrighteous standard you judge so shall you be judged. What you fail to recognize in your ignorance is all will be judged by the Lord's standard, which both Jesus and Paul COMMANDED US to use on those within the church. Otherwise, why would Paul have bothered to tell us to not associate with unrepentant sinners in the church, you clueless clown?
Yeah...go ahead and not associate with sinners..ignore them...that goes real well with the bible...

Matthew 25:40
And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’

[Skull-1]

Of course it's a sin, one of pride. Now who's the idiot? That rope is getting closer. Let's try this in big letters so you can hopefully follow along.




-------------------------> Timothy 5:20-21 20 (http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/5-20.htm)Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning. 21 (http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/5-21.htm)I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.


----------------------> And let's try 1 Corinthians 5... 9 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-9.htm)I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-10.htm)I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-11.htm)But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-12.htm)For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-13.htm)But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES.

[xmas1997]

Not surprised this thread turned into a lesson in morality.
The point I was trying to make is that none of us here know all the facts, thus no right to make any judgment calls.
And in the end it is the kids who will suffer the most!

And unfortunately skull is getting his interpretations of bible scripture all twisted up in his own ridiculous interpretations, so all you can do for someone like that is give him enough rope to hang himself with it.
Maybe someday he will get a revelation about his apostasy and wise up.

[Skull-1]

Not surprised this thread turned into a lesson in morality.
The point I was trying to make is that none of us here know all the facts, thus no right to make any judgment calls.
And in the end it is the kids who will suffer the most! Yes the kids suffer which is why we are SUPPOSED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO RECONCILE, NOT TO ENCOURAGE TIM TO DOUBLE DOWN ON AMY'S SIN.

[xmas1997]

Yes the kids suffer which is why we are SUPPOSED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO RECONCILE, NOT TO ENCOURAGE TIM TO DOUBLE DOWN ON AMY'S SIN.

No, you don't encourage in either direction because it is their personal decisions and none of your nosy business, God will judge their actions, not YOU, skull. Or have you never sinned in your life?

[Skull-1]

No, you don't encourage in either direction because it is their personal decisions and none of your nosy business, God will judge their actions, not YOU, skull. Or have you never sinned in your life? If they are Christians then it IS my business. And if you claim to be one then it is yours, too.

[benefactor]

:lol:lol

[xmas1997]

If they are Christians then it IS my business. And if you claim to be one then it is yours, too.

Oh man, are you truly that sick and confused?
I feel sorry for you.
You have no right to judge, you sound worse than the inquisitors during the Dark ages, the Inquisition.
Basically, you don't know the facts, and furthermore it is plainly none of your business. I can't say it any more plainly than that. Keep your nose out of it!

[Skull-1]

Oh man, are you truly that sick and confused?
I feel sorry for you.
You have no right to judge, you sound worse than the inquisitors during the Dark ages, the Inquisition.
Basically, you don't know the facts, and furthermore it is plainly none of your business. I can't say it any more plainly than that. Keep your nose out of it!

The facts? A covenant marriage is being allowed to separate against God's command. LET NO MAN SEPARATE WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER. A command. You are not to give approval to wicked deeds. God hates divorce. I suggest you do the same.


I just quoted you a clear passage on judgment you moron. Can you not read?

[xmas1997]

I just quoted you a clear passage on judgment you moron. Can you not read?


Sure I can, but I won't presume to grace this argument with a ridiculous interpretation of those words which clearly differ from my interpretation.
We are dealing with INTERPRETATIONS here after all, and I refuse to be goaded or badgered into your narrow minded view of it. That would be the epitome of religious intolerance and self-righteousness if I did, in other words, my way is the only way, or in this case, interpretation. That is just plain WRONG. And I won't stoop to that level of religious ignorance, sorry!

[Skull-1]

Sure I can, but I won't presume to grace this argument with a ridiculous interpretation of those words which clearly differ from my interpretation.
We are dealing with INTERPRETATIONS here after all, and I refuse to be goaded or badgered into your narrow minded view of it. That would be the epitome of religious intolerance and self-righteousness if I did, in other words, my way is the only way, or in this case, interpretation. That is just plain WRONG. And I won't stoop to that level of religious ignorance, sorry!


Interpretation of the clear words of scripture backed by OTHER clear words of scripture is another way of saying you substitute the tradition of men for the Word of God. Parables require interpretation. Clear scripture does not. You are just regurgitating all the bs lies you've been spoonfed by men who are blind and cannot see the words on the page.


you don't have to stoop to any level of religious ignorance. You're already drowning in it.

[Spursfan092120]

So let me ask you a question, Skull...if you had a child, and he got caught sinning, and someone came up to your house, where you were sitting outside with your family and starting cussing out your child or hitting your child at your house for committing that sin, would you let them do that? Or would you say, "This is my kid..what they do is none of your fucking business." Careful now...because in this one, you're either the worst parent alive, or you're a hypocrite.

[xmas1997]

Interpretation of the clear words of scripture backed by OTHER clear words of scripture is another way of saying you substitute the tradition of men for the Word of God. Parables require interpretation. Clear scripture does not. You are just regurgitating all the bs lies you've been spoonfed by men who are blind and cannot see the words on the page.


you don't have to stoop to any level of religious ignorance. You're already drowning in it.

No, skull, don't you understand? You are clearly trying to badger me again into accepting your narrow minded interpretation of that piece of scripture to, YOUR interpretation, not mine, and I can see that you are clearly wrong for two reasons, for the interpretation itself, and for trying to make me believe your interpretation.

[Skull-1]

So let me ask you a question, Skull...if you had a child, and he got caught sinning, and someone came up to your house, where you were sitting outside with your family and starting cussing out your child or hitting your child at your house for committing that sin, would you let them do that? Or would you say, "This is my kid..what they do is none of your fucking business." Careful now...because in this one, you're either the worst parent alive, or you're a hypocrite.


Theres a process. Calling Amy a home wrecking whore isn't the first step. The process is laid out elsewhere. Mat 18:17 and in Corinthians where church discipline is discussed. Also Eze 3 and 33. That's just for starters. And nowhere does it say hit a kid who isn't yours. It says to rebuke severely those who persist in their sin after being warned.

I don't know Tim or Amy so it would be hard for me to even begin to counsel them. But I will not publicly support any suggestion that Tim should just move on with another girl or girls. That's wrong and any Christian who says such an ignorant, unscriptural thing will get a rebuke from me, I guarantee ya that.

[Skull-1]

No, skull, don't you understand? You are clearly trying to badger me again into accepting your narrow minded interpretation of that piece of scripture to, YOUR interpretation, not mine, and I can see that you are clearly wrong for two reasons, for the interpretation itself, and for trying to make me believe your interpretation.


"All Scripture is profitable for doctrine, correction, reproof, and training in righteousness." I have done the first three with you but your ignorance won't allow you to even attempt the latter.


The scripture interprets itself. I have given you the clues on where to look. Your refusal is your downfall, not mine.

[Spursfan092120]

Theres a process. Calling Amy a home wrecking whore isn't the first step. The process is laid out elsewhere. Mat 18:17 and in Corinthians where church discipline is discussed. Also Eze 3 and 33. That's just for starters. And nowhere does it say hit a kid who isn't yours. It says to rebuke severely those who persist in their sin after being warned.

I don't know Tim or Amy so it would be hard for me to even begin to counsel them. But I will not publicly support any suggestion that Tim should just move on with another girl or girls. That's wrong and any Christian who says such an ignorant, unscriptural thing will get a rebuke from me, I guarantee ya that.
I'll tell you this. I don't have kids, but if I did, I don't care if my kid's done the same sin 3 or 4 times...if anyone else comes to my house, on my property, and tells my kid what they need to be doing, they're going to get a foot in their ass and a black eye. That's my business. I believe in the church, well...some of them..and in some respects. But she also broke a Commandment...I think that trumps all.

[xmas1997]

Scripture is profitable for doctrine, correction, reproof, and training in righteousness. I have done the first three with you but your ignorance won't allow you to even attempt the latter.


The scripture interprets itself. I have given you the clues on where to look. Your refusal is your downfall, not mine.

Well then, by all means rebuke yourself!
Naw, that was a cheap shot.
Again, my refusal is to be badgered into accepting your narrow minded view or interpretation of that particular scripture. It is not self evident, it requires interpretation, it does not nor ever will interpret itself, that is a preposterous notion on your part, not mine.
And furthermore, you have done nothing of the sort except make a total narrow minded fool of yourself for thinking you had, and that is sad for you. I am always into having rational intellectual discussions on this subject as long as both remain open minded because God works in many many ways and usually speaks to us through others.
You cannot judge, you have no right literally, nor is it written that you do from God Himself in the bible, or the koran, or kabala, or any other great book, that he wants you to judge the acts of man, rather that province belongs to Him and Him alone, period.
You best heed these words lest you continue to go astray.

[Skull-1]

I'll tell you this. I don't have kids, but if I did, I don't care if my kid's done the same sin 3 or 4 times...if anyone else comes to my house, on my property, and tells my kid what they need to be doing, they're going to get a foot in their ass and a black eye. That's my business. I believe in the church, well...some of them..and in some respects. But she also broke a Commandment...I think that trumps all.


She broke a lot of commandments. "I give you ten thousand commandments, not one of which you obey..." But if your brother sins against you and repents 77 times in a day you must forgive. Tim is commanded to forgive and Amy is commanded to reconcile. The rest is bs humanistic nonsense.

People treat adultery like some unforgiveable sin. It isn't. And it is not grounds for divorce. Ever.

If my kid gets an ass chewing that bad, I am betting he deserves it and will wind up with a worse one from me. Context my friend.

[Skull-1]

Well then, by all means rebuke yourself!
Naw, that was a cheap shot.
Again, my refusal is to be badgered into accepting your narrow minded view or interpretation of that particular scripture. It is not self evident, it requires interpretation, it does not nor ever will interpret itself, that is a preposterous notion on your part, not mine.
And furthermore, you have done nothing of the sort except make a total narrow minded fool of yourself for thinking you had, and that is sad for you. I am always into having rational intellectual discussions on this subject as long as both remain open minded because God works in many many ways and usually speaks to us through others.
You cannot judge, you have no right literally, nor is it written that you do from God Himself in the bible, or the koran, or kabala, or any other great book, that he wants you to judge the acts of man, rather that province belongs to Him and Him alone, period.
You best heed these words lest you continue to go astray.

I said scripture.....plural....interprets itself. ALL SCRIPTURE. The scripture singular, interprets itself through other scripture. The scriptureS interpret themselves. Better?


EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TESTED...


No scripture is of its own interpretation...


THY COMMANDMENT IS EXCEEDINGLY BROAD.... (No loopholes.)


Paul is reemphasizing something he already taught which is an almost word for word repeat of what Jesus said in Matthew 18. The only part up for interpretation is what constitutes a church. And with the many mistranslations in various places one must know a little Greek to truly grasp the meaning of what church even is.

We are ordered to use righteous judgment to discipline the faith. Without judgment one cannot rebuke someone and order them, just as Christ did, to go and sin no more.

God judges those outside. That is his purview. We are commanded to judge fellow believers so they will do what is right. Your inability to grasp this is astounding.

[Spursfan092120]

She broke a lot of commandments. "I give you ten thousand commandments, not one of which you obey..." But if your brother sins against you and repents 77 times in a day you must forgive. Tim is commanded to forgive and Amy is commanded to reconcile. The rest is bs humanistic nonsense.

People treat adultery like some unforgiveable sin. It isn't. And it is not grounds for divorce. Ever.

If my kid gets an ass chewing that bad, I am betting he deserves it and will wind up with a worse one from me. Context my friend.
You say it's not grounds for divorce...but doesn't it say many times that sexual immorality is a circumstance?

[xmas1997]

I said scripture.....plural....interprets itself. ALL SCRIPTURE. The scripture singular, interprets itself through other scripture. The scriptureS interpret themselves. Better?


EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TESTED...


No scripture is of its own interpretation...


THY COMMANDMENT IS EXCEEDINGLY BROAD.... (No loopholes.)


Paul is reemphasizing something he already taught which is an almost word for word repeat of what Jesus said in Matthew 18. The only part up for interpretation is what constitutes a church. And with the many mistranslations in various places one must know a little Greek to truly grasp the meaning of what church even is.

We are ordered to use righteous judgment to discipline the faith. Without judgment one cannot rebuke someone and order them, just as Christ did, to go and sin no more.

God judges those outside. That is his purview. We are commanded to judge fellow believers so they will do what is right. Your inability to grasp this is astounding.

Sorry, to correct you again, but you are dead wrong on so many fronts it is not even funny.
There is one great commandment, love one another and forgive one another.
As for everything else, I've had my say and it speaks for itself.
I would never presume to know the mind of God nor go against His Will, but I do know that He is the only One Who may judge the minds and hearts of man, and not other men. This kind of hypocrisy is what is behind most of the religious wars on this planet, and it is fueled by ignorance and self-righteousness.
It is sad. You are sad. But I forgive your ignorance and chastise your narrow mindedness.
Good luck with those viewpoints.

[Skull-1]

You say it's not grounds for divorce...but doesn't it say many times that sexual immorality is a circumstance?


Incorrect interpretation of the Greek words moichea and porneia (adultery and fornication, respectively). It is referring to Jewish betrothal, not marriage.

[Skull-1]

Sorry, to correct you again, but you are dead wrong on so many fronts it is not even funny.
There is one great commandment, love one another and forgive one another.
As for everything else, I've had my say and it speaks for itself.
I would never presume to know the mind of God nor go against His Will, but I do know that He is the only One Who may judge the minds and hearts of man, and not other men. This kind of hypocrisy is what is behind most of the religious wars on this planet, and it is fueled by ignorance and self-righteousness.
It is sad. You are sad. But I forgive your ignorance and chastise your narrow mindedness.
Good luck with those viewpoints.


So when Jesus defined those who love Him what did He say?

And on what words are we judged?

And He who the Son sets free is free of what?

There is one great commandment among many. It is not the only commandment, but it defines all the others by looping back around to one thing.... And it isn't John 3:16.


We are commanded to exercise righteous judgment in accordance with His standards. I have given you enough scripture to reveal this truth and open up more. You mock it because you are blind. The veil is removed in Christ. You're not there.

You have no authority to chastise me any way. I am the teacher, not you. As a carnal man you find spiritual things foolish. You mock and naysay just as scripture teaches. So be it. Stick to food.

[Spursfan092120]

Incorrect interpretation of the Greek words moichea and porneia (adultery and fornication, respectively). It is referring to Jewish betrothal, not marriage.
Matthew 19:9 ESV


And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”


Matthew 5:31-32 ESV


“It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

[xmas1997]

So when Jesus defined those who love Him what did He say?

And on what words are we judged?

And He who the Son sets free is free of what?

There is one great commandment among many. It is not the only commandment, but it defines all the others by looping back around to one thing.... And it isn't John 3:16.

You have no authority to chastise me any way. I am the teacher, not you. As a carnal man you find spiritual things foolish. You mock and naysay just as scripture teaches. So be it. Stick to food.

Wrong again, son, you are the pupil. And I have been teaching you all along, through each one of these posts. You are just too dense to see it. That is why I continue to chastise you over and over until you finally are able to see the Light.
I have no worries here because you keep hanging yourself with every preposterous statement you make.
Again, you should take heed and profit from this instruction, and by all means cease trying to judge the acts of man because that belongs solely to God and you will be severely punished for it if you don't stop.
Just goes to prove you only hear and believe what you want to hear and believe regardless of the truth.
I pity you with your ill advised judgments. That is just completely wrong in so many ways, and it definitely isn't Christian, period!
Good luck with your hypocrisy.

[Skull-1]

Matthew 19:9 ESV


And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”


Matthew 5:31-32 ESV


“It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


The word is fornication. Sexual immorality is a modern mistranslation started with the NIV.

It refers to Jewish Betrothal, as in Mary and Joseph (Matthew 1). Mary was Joseph's ESPOUSED wife. His fiancé. To end a betrothal one had to prove porneia and get a "divorce" (the man expected a virgin bride--betrothal period was intended to prove she was not pregnant, etc.). It is the same word used in John 8:41 to mock Jesus of being born from porneia (premarital sex, ie fornication).


Matthew 5 actually proves that adultery is not grounds for divorce, but it is hard to get into right now so let's just stick with 19:9... For it to be true then every other scripture citing the permanence of marriage would not be true and that's not how it works.

Matthew is internally consistent. To understand Matthew 19 you must understand Matthew 1.

[Skull-1]

Wrong again, son, you are the pupil. And I have been teaching you all along, through each one of these posts. You are just too dense to see it. That is why I continue to chastise you over and over until you finally are able to see the Light.
I have no worries here because you keep hanging yourself with every preposterous statement you make.
Again, you should take heed and profit from this instruction, and by all means cease trying to judge the acts of man because that belongs solely to God and you will be severely punished for it if you don't stop.
Just goes to prove you only hear and believe what you want to hear and believe regardless of the truth.
I pity you with your ill advised judgments. That is just completely wrong in so many ways, and it definitely isn't Christian, period!
Good luck with your hypocrisy.


How can I be punished for following Christ's commands, you idiotic fool?

Whatever, fake christian with a small c. I won't throw any more pearls at a swine like you (a brute beast, unreasoning animal....more scripture interpreting scripture).

[xmas1997]

Lets just leave it as it is none of our business, Christian or otherwise.
God will judge it, we have no right to do so. And I don't have to quote the bible or any other book to know that.
I just have to follow my God given conscience to know the truth of that.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!
And if you pray, then pray for those kids. If you try to do more then you are meddling in areas you have no business meddling in and deserve to get a thrashing for doing so. So be it.
And please, leave the blaspheming of Jesus out of this.
You have no right whatsoever to judge me or anyone else especially in Jesus name. Look to yourself and forgive yourself.

[Skull-1]

Lets just leave it as it is none of our business, Christian or otherwise.
God will judge it, we have no right to do so. And I don't have to quote the bible or any other book to know that.
I just have to follow my God given conscience to know the truth of that.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!
And if you pray, then pray for those kids. If you try to do more then you are meddling in areas you have no business meddling in and deserve to get a thrashing for doing so. So be it.
And please, leave the blaspheming of Jesus out of this.


I most certainly will not leave it. I condemn it, just as Christ would, Paul would, or God would....and does.

Watchman sound the alarm...

What happened there is wrong. Period. And should not be condoned by anyone on either side. Repent. Forgive. Reconcile. "But and if she departs LET HER REMAIN UNMARRIED OR BE RECONCILED TO HER HUSBAND. AND A HUSBAND MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT LEAVE HIS WIFE."

[xmas1997]

Yup, I remember my first beer too! Grow up and get a life, and stay out of others affairs, none of your business and never will be unless you are God, period.
You have no right whatsoever to meddle in other people's lives lest you want them meddling in yours. And even then you don't. You had best go back and do some more diligent studying, you need it in the worst way.

[Skull-1]

Yup, I remember my first beer too! Grow up and get a life, and stay out of others affairs, none of your business and never will be unless you are God, period.
You have no right whatsoever to meddle in other people's lives lest you want them meddling in yours. And even then you don't. You had best go back and do some more diligent studying, you need it in the worst way.
p

Polly wanna cracker?


I am hardly meddling. I am expressing the truth of Christ in this matter, however. We are commanded, there's that word again, to do so in season and out of season.

[xmas1997]

No, you are expressing your own truth, not that of Christ.

[Skull-1]

No, you are expressing your own truth, not that of Christ.


You haven't shown one bit of scripture to refute the truth I have provided via the Doctrine of Christ in scripture. Not one. The only one you feebly threw at me, not knowing what it meant, proved what I said is true.

You are simply ignorant and say, "I need nothing. But you do not know that you are miserable, poor, dumb, blind, and naked." A direct quote from Jesus that describes your present state.

[xmas1997]

I don't need to show scripture, it is common sense and good decency. Do you possess none of that?
You must be a troll, only a troll would be this dense and ignorant.
My last advice to you is this: you can use scripture to prove or disprove any theory you want so use the Golden Rule which again is: do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and you won't go wrong. God gave you a conscience and a free will, if you will only use them.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Who cares?

God is a spaghetti monster, right? If he has a problem with anything Tim does, we can just eat him.

[xmas1997]

Who cares?

God is a spaghetti monster, right? If he has a problem with anything Tim does, we can just eat him.

:lol
He also has a sense of humor, thank God!
Hopefully we can put this silly thread to bed now.

[Blake]

Christian fight!

:corn:

[Skull-1]

I don't need to show scripture, it is common sense and good decency. Do you possess none of that?
You must be a troll, only a troll would be this dense and ignorant.
My last advice to you is this: you can use scripture to prove or disprove any theory you want so use the Golden Rule which again is: do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and you won't go wrong. God gave you a conscience and a free will, if you will only use them. LMAO


The rest is just humanism. You worship Erasmus not Christ. Pathetic.

[DMC]

I'm not up in arms about it...but you're still not being logical here. She didn't just "give it to someone else." She gave it to the man she was fucking...that was NOT him. She took some of his money and gave it to the guy she was cheating on him with. That's fucked up. As hard as you try, there's no way you can make sense out of this, or turn this into anything other than she's a gold digging bitch who crossed the line.

Tim married her, I didn't. Surely he's a fair judge of character, at least as good as you and you don't even know her.

[DMC]

Ironically, he did stop on the street to sign an autograph for me. But that's not the point. This isn't about worshipping anybody. If I saw this shit on the news I'd say it's fucked up.

It happens hundreds of thousands of times a day. You pick this one because you're infatuated with Tim Duncan and feel you need to protect him.

[xmas1997]

LMAO


The rest is just humanism. You worship Erasmus not Christ. Pathetic.

Either you are a bandwagon fly by night fan or a :troll

I haven't quite figured out which yet but I'm leaning toward the latter.

You've been put in your place and corrected of the fallacies in your arguments by your betters on every thread you post, so it's time you went back to your cell now and quit acting childish.
You should fess up and admit you are using the bible to your own ends which is not how it was intended to be used. Anyone can quote things from there and take them out of context to support any argument they want. That shows nothing but your blind ignorance.
Again, you must be a troll!

[Spursfan092120]

It happens hundreds of thousands of times a day. You pick this one because you're infatuated with Tim Duncan and feel you need to protect him.
The fact that it happens hundreds of thousands of times a day is exactly why no one hears about it. If you don't know about something, you can't say anything about it. Like I said...if I saw it on the news, I'd say "That's fucked up." Because it is...period. Doesn't matter who the hell it is. And you're out of your fucking mind if you don't see that a woman cheating on a man, and giving that man's money to the man she's cheating on him with isn't fucked up.

[Spursfan092120]

Tim married her, I didn't. Surely he's a fair judge of character, at least as good as you and you don't even know her.
You know what? My ex wife was a sweet, decent person at one time. Then we got married. She felt she could go buy whatever she wanted, yell at me for no reason, and completely ignore me. Thought I'd never divorce her....She was wrong. People change...especially when they feel nothing will happen.

[xmas1997]

You know what? My ex wife was a sweet, decent person at one time. Then we got married. She felt she could go buy whatever she wanted, yell at me for no reason, and completely ignore me. Thought I'd never divorce her....She was wrong. People change...especially when they feel nothing will happen.


Sorry that happened to you.
Just as I have always been saying, divorce is usually an ugly experience, but unless it were to happen to me, as a true Christian, not a quasi one like the troll skull, it is none of my business, plain and simple. That is not rocket science either, it is common decency. To try and justify meddling in someone else's private affairs is just plain WRONG and sick and indecent!
To try and justify meddling because you may be Christian goes against all true Christian values and beliefs and no where in the bible or any other great book is this type of nosy meddling action condoned or called for unless you totally quote scripture out of context, period. And this isn't just confined to only Christians either, it is plain and simple common decency. Things are bad enough without also being condemned by .perfect strangers who have no idea of what they are talking about.
I personally don't happen to believe in divorce, but I would never ever presume to judge someone else as a bad person just because they were going through one. If I did, I am quite sure without any doubts whatsoever that God would send me straight to hell for being so self-righteous and unforgiving and judgmental, it is the epitome of ignorance and hate.
The next ignorant thing you'll say is that Pope Francis is the anti-Christ.
:hat

[Leetonidas]

:lol Christian "values"

[Skull-1]

Either you are a bandwagon fly by night fan or a :troll

I haven't quite figured out which yet but I'm leaning toward the latter.

You've been put in your place and corrected of the fallacies in your arguments by your betters on every thread you post, so it's time you went back to your cell now and quit acting childish.
You should fess up and admit you are using the bible to your own ends which is not how it was intended to be used. Anyone can quote things from there and take them out of context to support any argument they want. That shows nothing but your blind ignorance.
Again, you must be a troll!


Again, we are debating what the scriptures say A subject over which you are completely ignorant. Hence your refusal to discuss the subject of scripture WITH scripture.

You sound like Pee Wee Herman.

As Christ said, "He that KNOWS my commandmentS and KEEPS THEM, it is he who loves me." Commandments. Plural. Not just one. Obey the commandS of Christ first requires knowing what they are. You can't even get Church discipline (which requires JUDGMENT to execute, moron) and marriage straight.

Lol

[Skull-1]

You know what? My ex wife was a sweet, decent person at one time. Then we got married. She felt she could go buy whatever she wanted, yell at me for no reason, and completely ignore me. Thought I'd never divorce her....She was wrong. People change...especially when they feel nothing will happen.


Well, if she was your wife by covenant that divorce paper is meaningless.

It happens, but it is wrong. The vow that joins you is for better or for worse, not until things change.

[Skull-1]

:lol Christian "values"


There really aren't any. A vast majority of so-called Christians are ignorant hypocrites. Like Xmas here. They think Noah's Ark is literal history instead of a parable and that the Earth is 4000 years old, etc.

I am just delivering the message. I didn't write the book.

[Skull-1]

Sorry that happened to you.
Just as I have always been saying, divorce is usually an ugly experience, but unless it were to happen to me, as a true Christian, not a quasi one like the troll skull, it is none of my business, plain and simple. That is not rocket science either, it is common decency. To try and justify meddling in someone else's private affairs is just plain WRONG and sick and indecent!
To try and justify meddling because you may be Christian goes against all true Christian values and beliefs and no where in the bible or any other great book is this type of nosy meddling action condoned or called for unless you totally quote scripture out of context, period. And this isn't just confined to only Christians either, it is plain and simple common decency. Things are bad enough without also being condemned by .perfect strangers who have no idea of what they are talking about.
I personally don't happen to believe in divorce, but I would never ever presume to judge someone else as a bad person just because they were going through one. If I did, I am quite sure without any doubts whatsoever that God would send me straight to hell for being so self-righteous and unforgiving and judgmental, it is the epitome of ignorance and hate.
The next ignorant thing you'll say is that Pope Francis is the anti-Christ.
:hat


Christians are repeatedly commanded not to condone or approve of sin. Are you a moron? If you walked in and saw some guy was beating on a little kid or worse are you going to say it is "none of my business because I am a Christian"? Idiot.


That's what it means to reprove and correct, dummy. You are supposed to "contend for the faith" and that means calling sin what it is when a believer is doing it. And you are not to sit silently when people of supposed faith advocate unscriptural positions. You may not be able to stop them but you can warn others who might be deceived by it.

[xmas1997]

Christians are repeatedly commanded not to condone or approve of sin. Are you a moron? If you walked in and saw some guy was beating on a little kid or worse are you going to say it is "none of my business because I am a Christian". Idiot.


That's what it means to reprove and correct, dummy. You are supposed to "contend for the faith" and that means calling sin what it is when a believer is doing it. And you are not to sit silently when people of supposed faith advocate unscriptural positions. You may not be able to stop them but you can warn others who might be deceived by it.

No point talking to you anymore.
:troll

[Skull-1]

No point talking to you anymore.
:troll

"I know you are but what am I?"

Is this an example of you "proving" me "wrong"? LMAO

[xmas1997]

"I know you are but what am I?"

Is this an example of you "proving" me "wrong"? LMAO

:troll

That's all you're worth, telling it like it is.

[Skull-1]

I thought you were done. Empty talker.

[xmas1997]

"I know you are but what am I?"

Is this an example of you "proving" me "wrong"? LMAO

Speaking to the troll skull, rather than the person skull:
Just more of your bitching, whining, and spreading of your false gospel of which you falsely think you know about. The reality is you don't have the decency to keep your nose out of others business, and then you falsely justify it with misinterpretations of bible scripture. But the TRUTH is, you are dead WRONG! Don't you have a decent bone in your body?
You should wise up and keep your ignorant opinions to yourself because only a few other equally ignorant posters pay any attention to your falsehoods. You don't have the slightest idea of who a Christian is, much less the difference between a decent one and a fake one, so just go back to your cell.
As ElNono asked, "and I expected to change your minds?" Can't change a mind where there is no mind to begin with as you are the perfect example of that. And to call you out has become a funny exercise for me.
:lol I imagine that rope has you strangling in your own BS by now.

I've tried to educate you and enlighten you to the truth by showing you the holes in your arguments, but all you can do is fall back on juvenile name calling, or resort to quoting the bible out of context. Didn't mean to make you mad, especially when your ignorance about scripture was exposed, but that is par for the course with trolls. You know, we have a forum here for trolls to do their trolling, you need to go there and leave this forum for those who have rational intelligent information to share.
Or go find a religious forum so you can spout your religious BS and misinterpretations! They would love you there.:lol

[Skull-1]

Speaking to the troll skull, rather than the person skull:
Just more of your bitching, whining, and spreading of your false gospel of which you falsely think you know about. The reality is you don't have the decency to keep your nose out of others business, and then you falsely justify it with misinterpretations of bible scripture. But the TRUTH is, you are dead WRONG! Don't you have a decent bone in your body?
You should wise up and keep your ignorant opinions to yourself because only a few other equally ignorant posters pay any attention to your falsehoods. You don't have the slightest idea of who a Christian is, much less the difference between a decent one and a fake one, so just go back to your cell.
As ElNono asked, "and I expected to change your minds?" Can't change a mind where there is no mind to begin with as you are the perfect example of that. And to call you out has become a funny exercise for me.
:lol I imagine that rope has you strangling in your own BS by now.

I've tried to educate you and enlighten you to the truth by showing you the holes in your arguments, but all you can do is fall back on juvenile name calling, or resort to quoting the bible out of context. Didn't mean to make you mad, especially when your ignorance about scripture was exposed, but that is par for the course with trolls. You know, we have a forum here for trolls to do their trolling, you need to go there and leave this forum for those who have rational intelligent information to share.
Or go find a religious forum so you can spout your religious BS and misinterpretations! They would love you there.:lol


Laughing at the 15 year old who can't read and has yet to offer even a single verse that contradicts what I have shown to be true. Righteous judgment is required by believers of other believers in order to correct, reprove, train in righteousness, and maintain God's standards within the body of believers. Go back to your synagogue of Satan illiterate, blind, cowardly child. LOL!

"I don't have to quote scripture, I can just use common sense." ROTFLMAO!!


I thought you were done talking. Obviously not a man of your word. LOL "christian".

[xmas1997]

Laughing at the 15 year old who can't read and has yet to offer even a single verse that contradicts what I have shown to be true. Righteous judgment is required by believers of other believers in order to correct, reprove, train in righteousness, and maintain God's standards within the body of believers. Go back to your synagogue of Satan illiterate, blind, cowardly child. LOL!

"I don't have to quote scripture, I can just use common sense." ROTFLMAO!!


I thought you were done talking. Obviously not a man of your word. LOL "christian".

Not talking you. Talking to the troll called skull. :lol
And there is no point in using scripture for two reasons: you always twist it askew to support your argument, and because we don't need to use it since these truths are self evident and common decency.
And it is a common practice for satanists to use and twist bible teaching.
You've been called out, lectured, corrected, and put in your place in previous posts so I don't need to do it again. The fact that you're so dense in realizing this is not my problem, it's yours.
Good luck with that piss poor attitude of yours.

[Skull-1]

Not talking you. Talking to the troll called skull. :lol
And there is no point in using scripture for two reasons: you always twist it askew to support your argument, and because we don't need to use it since these truths are self evident and common decency.
And it is a common practice for satanists to use and twist bible teaching.
You've been called out, lectured, corrected, and put in your place in previous posts so I don't need to do it again. The fact that you're so dense in realizing this is not my problem, it's yours.
Good luck with that piss poor attitude of yours.

These truths are self-evident? Now you're quoting Thomas Jefferson? LMAO!

I will go with Paul the Apostle who clearly and explicitly stated on multiple occasions, quoting Jesus Himself, that the Church is to use judgment to discipline its members. To teach them the proper actions in accordance with the Law of Christ.

Yes, Satanists twist scripture. They say, "Don't judge others" and "If your spouse cheats on you or leaves you can marry someone else." (Read Titus 1:10:11 - For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 (http://biblehub.com/titus/1-11.htm)who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.)

There is no common decency, you idiot. That's why this thread was started in the first place.

You are a petulant child.




--- Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning. (1 Tim 5:20) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you. (Titus 2:15) <----- JUDGMENT!!!!!


--- Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. (Eph 5:11) <---- JUDGMENT!!! (That’s right, don’t stand there quietly and say it is none of your business, you coward.)


--- Hold(ing) fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict. (Titus 1:9) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


--- I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people… (1 Cor 5:9) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


--- I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. (1 Cor 5:11) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


--- Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the teachings which you received from us. (2 Thes 3:6) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- But if any has caused sorrow, he has caused sorrow not to me, but in some degree—in order not to say too much—to all of you. 6 (http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/2-6.htm)Sufficient for such a one is this punishment which was inflicted by the majority. (2 Cor 2:6) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly… (1 Thes 5:14) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 (http://biblehub.com/matthew/18-16.htm)“But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. 17 (http://biblehub.com/matthew/18-17.htm)“If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." (Mat 18:15-17) <--------- JUDGMENT!!!!! CHRIST'S OWN WORDS!!!!


---- For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-13.htm)But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES. (1 Cor 5:12-13) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


--- Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Tim 4:2) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 (http://biblehub.com/titus/1-11.htm)who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain. 12 (http://biblehub.com/titus/1-12.htm)One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 (http://biblehub.com/titus/1-13.htm)This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, 14 (http://biblehub.com/titus/1-14.htm)not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. (Titus 1:10-14) <----- JUDGMENT!!!


--- 'Those whom I love, I rebuke (reprove) and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.’ (Revelation 3:19)


--- This is why I should stop wasting my time with you. “Don't rebuke a mocker, or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.” (Prov 3:19)


--- Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, But he who hates reproof is stupid. (Prov 12:1) <----- That defines you little boy.


--- It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father’s wife. 2 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-2.htm)You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst. (1 Cor 5:1-2) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


--- For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this (Edit in: sexual sin, i.e. adultery, with another man’s wife or fornication with his widow), as though I were present. 4 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-4.htm)In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 (http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/5-5.htm)I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. (1 Cor 5:3-5) <------ You guessed it…. JUDGMENT!!!!

AGAIN... AGAIN.....AGAIN.....

--- I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. (1 Cor 5:11) <------ JUDGMENT!!!


IS THAT ENOUGH CONTEXT FOR YOU, YOU IGNORAMOUS? Cuz there's plenty more where that came from.

[xmas1997]

:rollin
Still trolling I see.
Good luck with that. :lmao

[Skull-1]

:rollin
Still trolling I see.
Good luck with that. :lmao


Yep. You sure showed me. Gosh. I think I will just go quiver under the glare of your incomparable knowledge. EYEROLL

[xmas1997]

At least this thread has gravitated away from TDs divorce, which isn't anyone's business, Christian or otherwise, and toward the nonsense between skull and I. That is where it belongs!
You did good, skull, thank you. :blah

[Skull-1]

At least this thread has gravitated away from TDs divorce, which isn't anyone's business, Christian or otherwise, and toward the nonsense between skull and I. That is where it belongs!
You did good, skull, thank you. :blah

If Tim and Amy are Christians, any Christian "friend" or "brother"/"sister" needs to call them out for disobedience to the Word of God. Anything less "is of the devil" as the Gospels and Epistles testify.

I have thermo-nuked your ridiculous, ascriptural, immoral assertion.

[xmas1997]

If Tim and Amy are Christians, any Christian "friend" or "brother"/"sister" needs to call them out for disobedience to the Word of God. Anything less "is of the devil" as the Gospels and Epistles testify.

I have thermo-nuked your ridiculous, ascriptural, immoral assertion.

Yeah, riiiiiight! Try again.
Obviously you've mistaken me for someone who gives a shit!
:rollin

But in all seriousness, you and I did the decent Christian thing by focusing this thread on us rather than TDs divorce. Some things should be private. I think we've pretty much killed interest in this thread.
You should be proud of yourself.:hat

[Skull-1]

Yeah, riiiiiight! Try again.
Obviously you've mistaken me for someone who gives a shit!
:rollin




Oh, man, I've been PUNK'D.

[Skull-1]

But in all seriousness, you and I did the decent Christian thing by focusing this thread on us rather than TDs divorce. Some things should be private.



Well then let me restate it again so it comes back where it belongs. Tim should not have divorced Amy. He cannot marry anyone else while she is alive, so he should not be encouraged to do so. Amy should not have been a cheating adulterous homewrecker. She needs to repent and reconcile with her husband, Tim. Anyone who supports any other position is flat out wrong from a Christian standpoint. Those around them need to encourage reconciliation and a return to their marriage, which is in effect until one of them dies. Period.

[xmas1997]

Well then let me restate it again so it comes back where it belongs. Tim should not have divorced Amy. He cannot marry anyone else while she is alive, so he should not be encouraged to do so. Amy should not have been a cheating adulterous homewrecker. She needs to repent and reconcile with her husband, Tim. Anyone who supports any other position is flat out wrong from a Christian standpoint. Those around them need to encourage reconciliation and a return to their marriage, which is in effect until one of them dies. Period.

Ok, you've expressed your opinion, but it has no basis in fact. But you are entitled to have an opinion.
IMHO it is the decent Christian, not just Christian, but Human, thing to keep our noses out of it.
That is my opinion. But even better, we're pretty much the only ones commenting on it anymore, so I bet if both of us stop posting in it, then it will fall to the bottom of the list of threads and die a happy death, as it should.

[Skull-1]

Ok, you've expressed your opinion, but it has no basis in fact. But you are entitled to have an opinion.
IMHO it is the decent Christian, not just Christian, but Human, thing to keep our noses out of it.
That is my opinion. But even better, we're pretty much the only ones commenting on it anymore, so I bet if both of us stop posting in it, then it will fall to the bottom of the list of threads and die a happy death, as it should.


My opinion echoes the exact "opinion" of God, Jesus Christ, and Paul the Apostle. Period.

[xmas1997]

I'd be willing to bet that if Jesus were standing here right now He would express a whole lot more forgiving attitude than you are doing regardless of what the bible, or any other great book, or you say. What's more I think you know this deep inside of you, but you seem too proud to admit. You sound just like the Pharisees who stood by the letter of their written laws, thus were judged for their intolerance, and ended up persecuting Him.
But it really doesn't matter as long as this thread goes away IMHO.

[Skull-1]

I'd be willing to bet that if Jesus were standing here right now He would express a whole lot more forgiving attitude than you are doing regardless of what the bible, or any other great book, or you say. What's more I think you know this deep inside of you, but you seem too proud to admit. You sound just like the Pharisees who stood by the letter of their written laws, thus were judged for their intolerance, and ended up persecuting Him.
But it really doesn't matter as long as this thread goes away IMHO.

Jesus was merciful and kind to the repentant. He was not nice at all to liars and hypocrites. I don't care how YOU Would bet, YOU are wrong. Christ had standards.

"GO AND SIN NO MORE," means precisely that. "If you do not REPENT you, too shall likewise perish." Pretty harsh words from your sandaled hippie caricature.


"SHOW ME FRUITS MEET FOR REPENTANCE."

The Pharises angered Christ because they were hypocrites and liars. The law they followed was not the Law of Christ by any measure. They would sit idle on the Sabbath and not help a man get his ox cart out of the ditch.


Matthew 23 (Which is so deep a chapter you don't have even the slightest clue what He means...) -

23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: judgment and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!


25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.


27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness. 28So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.


29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah,f whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation."

[Sean Cagney]

You know what? My ex wife was a sweet, decent person at one time. Then we got married. She felt she could go buy whatever she wanted, yell at me for no reason, and completely ignore me. Thought I'd never divorce her....She was wrong. People change...especially when they feel nothing will happen.

You sir are correct.

[xmas1997]

You sir are correct.

Sorry to hear that. You won't find me meddling in your business though, unlike the skull character.
He feels like it is his duty according to his interpretation of scripture even though it shows a complete lack of moral decency on his part.

[Sean Cagney]

Sorry to hear that. You won't find me meddling in your business though, unlike the skull character.
He feels like it is his duty according to his interpretation of scripture even though it shows a complete lack of moral decency on his part.

Yeah life sucks at times man, and women can change on the drop of a dime these days it seems. I am not divorced though so I don't take it personal and I have never had this happen with a long time wife like some have in here etc. I have had girls do shady things after a while, but nothing to the extent his wife or Tims wife did. I guess people just lose interest over time and want something new that they thought they had from the start, life in a nutshell.

[xmas1997]

Yeah life sucks at times man, and women can change on the drop of a dime these days it seems. I am not divorced though so I don't take it personal and I have never had this happen with a long time wife like some have in here etc. I have had girls do shady things after a while, but nothing to the extent his wife or Tims wife did. I guess people just lose interest over time and want something new that they thought they had from the start, life in a nutshell.

Never had it happen to me either, thank God, but if it did, I certainly would not appreciate some bible thumping Jesus freak meddling in my business, in fact I would find it highly offensive because that would be way too personal and definitely none of their business especially for a Christian. More like a wannabe Christian. There is such a thing as moral decency, and to meddle like that goes way beyond anything I'm quite sure Christ would condone.

[Skull-1]

Sorry to hear that. You won't find me meddling in your business though, unlike the skull character.
He feels like it is his duty according to his interpretation of scripture even though it shows a complete lack of moral decency on his part.


Eze 3 and 33. If you do not warn your brother of his sin I will hold you accountable.


STFU, coward humanist.

[Skull-1]

Never had it happen to me either, thank God, but if it did, I certainly would not appreciate some bible thumping Jesus freak meddling in my business, in fact I would find it highly offensive because that would be way too personal and definitely none of their business especially for a Christian. More like a wannabe Christian. There is such a thing as moral decency, and to meddle like that goes way beyond anything I'm quite sure Christ would condone.


Jesus confronted hypocrites and sinners CONSTANTLY. Why do you think they killed Him?

Any idea why John the Baptist was beheaded? Because he confronted Herod and Herodias with their adultery. That's right, coward Christian wannabe. He meddled. "It is NOT lawful for you to have thy brother Phillip's wife." It was a "legal" marriage. John called it sinfulness and the only way he was stopped was when they cut his head off.


You are a troll among trolls. I could care less what you think, but for anyone who might be misled by your heresy I will correct the record.

[Skull-1]

Yeah life sucks at times man, and women can change on the drop of a dime these days it seems. I am not divorced though so I don't take it personal and I have never had this happen with a long time wife like some have in here etc. I have had girls do shady things after a while, but nothing to the extent his wife or Tims wife did. I guess people just lose interest over time and want something new that they thought they had from the start, life in a nutshell.


The pproblem is that society and, particularly, the church don't understand or teach what marriage is. Non-Christians and atheists actually have lower divorce rates than Christians do. So being a Christian means you have a lower regard for the sanctity of the union instead of a higher one.

It is not a contract that you can get out of because "people change". That is Erasmus, the prince of humanists take, but he was a bad egg. No, sir, marriage is way more. It is an oath. A vow. The conditions are contained within it that say for better, worse, sick, healthy, until death. People say those words and don't really believe or mean them. And the church in this icky, Erasmian, Reformist, unscriptural goo disguised as mercy just blows it off. Nobody has the guts to tell people they're wrong any more.

Pastors won't do it. If they enforced marriage vows they would lose half their congregations and the associated donations of unscriptural tithes. Joel Osteen and John Hagee would have to give up their mansions and jet airplanes, etc. total hypocrisy and lies. Titus and Timothy warned against it. Here we are.

The children cop it because of their parent(s) greed, hypocrisy, selfishness, lack of conviction, unforgiveness, etc. Or even just plain ignorance. Nobody teaches this stuff anymore.

[xmas1997]

The pproblem is that society and, particularly, the church don't understand or teach what marriage is. Non-Christians and atheists actually have lower divorce rates than Christians do. So being a Christian means you have a lower regard for the sanctity of the union instead of a higher one.

It is not a contract that you can get out of because "people change". That is Erasmus, the prince of humanists take, but he was a bad egg. No, sir, marriage is way more. It is an oath. A vow. The conditions are contained within it that say for better, worse, sick, healthy, until death. People say those words and don't really believe or mean them. And the church in this icky, Erasmian, Reformist, unscriptural goo disguised as mercy just blows it off. Nobody has the guts to tell people they're wrong any more.

Pastors won't do it. If they enforced marriage vows they would lose half their congregations and the associated donations of unscriptural tithes. Joel Osteen and John Hagee would have to give up their mansions and jet airplanes, etc. total hypocrisy and lies. Titus and Timothy warned against it. Here we are.

The children cop it because of their parent(s) greed, hypocrisy, selfishness, lack of conviction, unforgiveness, etc. Or even just plain ignorance. Nobody teaches this stuff anymore.

Are you still here? Haven't you been punished enough yet? :lmao
Apparently you aren't smart enough to realize this is a SPORTS forum dedicated to the Spurs, and not some two bit Sunday school catechism class for your amusement.
Geez, what a foolish tool you are!

[mbass]

The pproblem is that society and, particularly, the church don't understand or teach what marriage is. Non-Christians and atheists actually have lower divorce rates than Christians do. So being a Christian means you have a lower regard for the sanctity of the union instead of a higher one.

It is not a contract that you can get out of because "people change". That is Erasmus, the prince of humanists take, but he was a bad egg. No, sir, marriage is way more. It is an oath. A vow. The conditions are contained within it that say for better, worse, sick, healthy, until death. People say those words and don't really believe or mean them. And the church in this icky, Erasmian, Reformist, unscriptural goo disguised as mercy just blows it off. Nobody has the guts to tell people they're wrong any more.


The main reason that nonChristians and athiests have a lower divorce rate that Christians is because Christians actually have a tendency to get married while the athiests and nonChristians just live together.

Pastors won't do it. If they enforced marriage vows they would lose half their congregations and the associated donations of unscriptural tithes. Joel Osteen and John Hagee would have to give up their mansions and jet airplanes, etc. total hypocrisy and lies. Titus and Timothy warned against it. Here we are.

The children cop it because of their parent(s) greed, hypocrisy, selfishness, lack of conviction, unforgiveness, etc. Or even just plain ignorance. Nobody teaches this stuff anymore.

[mbass]

The main reason that non Christians and athiests have a lower divorce rate than Christians is because Christians actually have a tendency to get married while athiests and non Christians have more of a tencency to live together.

[Skull-1]

The main reason that non Christians and athiests have a lower divorce rate than Christians is because Christians actually have a tendency to get married while athiests and non Christians have more of a tencency to live together.


Incorrect statement.

Jews and Muslims, for example, don't tend to live together unmarried. Same for just about any other religion.

also the second highest divorce rate profession is Christian Pastor. What a pathetic joke these shepherds are.

[Skull-1]

Are you still here? Haven't you been punished enough yet? :lmao
Apparently you aren't smart enough to realize this is a SPORTS forum dedicated to the Spurs, and not some two bit Sunday school catechism class for your amusement.
Geez, what a foolish tool you are!


Remove the log from your own eye so that then you might see the speck in thy brother's eye.


Loser hypocrite coward fake Christian humanist.

[xmas1997]

Remove the log from your own eye so that then you might see the speck in thy brother's eye.


Loser hypocrite coward fake Christian humanist.


:lol
Back for more punishment I see!
:troll

[spurs10]

I hope there is a special place in hell for those that use the Bible as a weapon to spread fear and guilt. There comes a time when people become so insufferable and self-righteous that those who may have onced loved them can no longer tolerate them. Sometimes it takes a lot more bravery to leave than to stay. You see it everyday, people commiting violent crimes or threatening others when they no longer can hold their wives, girlfriends, husbands, and boyfriends captive. Most of the time when I hear people railing about 'til death do us part' in a holier than thou way, I think to myself, " I hope they got away...I hope they made it!" That being said, good luck to Tim and his kids. I have no idea about their situatation.