2013 Eurobasket (September 4-22)

[velik_m]

OK, i did the math, so here are today's scenarios: Georgia nad Poland are out, the key game is Croatia against Czech Republic

If Croatia wins, the rest of the games don't matter. Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.

If CR wins things get complicated:
If both Spain and Slovenia win Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through
If only Spain loses (unlikely), there is a circle of three teams Croatia lost to spain by 28 pts, CR to Spain by 21 pts. This means again Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through
If only Slovenia loses, there is again a circle of three teams: Slovenia is at 0, Croatia at +2 and CR at -2. CR is through, if they beat Croatia for more than 2 pts, we're also through, if for 1 Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points, i don't know what the next tie-breaker is if they win by 2, but i think we look ok (we didnt get blown out by any team like Croatia and CR did against Spain)
If both Slovenia and Spain lose, there is a circle of 4 (!) teams with 3 wins again Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through.

So, Croatia vs. the Czechs is what we should pay most attention to. There is a small chance CR win knocks us out (i'm not sure even then), but it's far superior result for second round.

Go Vesely, go Welsch!

[velik_m]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BAEDE7CE3-F9DA-411E-8435-5C931E6A3267%7Dflexible.jpg

[ace3g]

Speaking of Vesely, an article from Eurobasket website:

Jan Vesely, The Czech Energy Pack


http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_C-S4,0xDIkQmfivSGUkba3.articleMode_on.html

[velik_m]

OK, i did the math, so here are today's scenarios: Georgia nad Poland are out, the key game is Croatia against Czech Republic

If Croatia wins, the rest of the games don't matter. Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.

If CR wins things get complicated:
If both Spain and Slovenia win Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through
If only Spain loses (unlikely), there is a circle of three teams Croatia lost to spain by 28 pts, CR to Spain by 21 pts. This means again Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through
If only Slovenia loses, there is again a circle of three teams: Slovenia is at 0, Croatia at +2 and CR at -2. CR is through, if they beat Croatia for more than 2 pts, we're also through, if for 1 Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points, i don't know what the next tie-breaker is if they win by 2, but i think we look ok (we didnt get blown out by any team like croatia and CR did against Spain)
If both Slovenia and Spain lose, there is a circle of 4 (!) teams with 3 wins again Slovenia (4), Spain (2) and CR (0) are through.

So, Croatia vs. the Czechs is what we should pay most attention to. There is a small chance CR win knocks us out (i'm not sure even then), but it's far superior result for second round.

Go Vesely, go Welsch!

It turns out Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_EuroBasket_2013) has me covered:


Slovenia can only be eliminated if they lose to Poland by more than 35 points AND Czech Republic beat Croatia by exactly 2 points.

So the next tie-breaker is overall point differential.

To sum it up:
A win by Croatia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.
A win by CR by exactly 1 point and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.
A win by CR by exactly 2 points and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia for more than 35 points to Poland: Spain (4) and CR (2) and Croatia (0).
Any other scenario: Slovenia (4) and Spain (2) and CR (0).

[velik_m]

In Jiři we trust!

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

Bruno Is Diaw still playing with that aggressiveness you spoke of during the prep games? (I haven't watched any games don't get ESPN3 and haven't bothered with any of the streams)

[smaka]

It turns out Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_EuroBasket_2013) has me covered:



So the next tie-breaker is overall point differential.

To sum it up:
A win by Croatia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.
A win by CR by exactly 1 point and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 2 points.
A win by CR by exactly 2 points and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia for more than 35 points to Poland: Spain (4) and CR (2) and Croatia (0).
Any other scenario: Slovenia (4) and Spain (2) and CR (0).

rtvslo says a loss for 37 points, but I think it doesn't even matter, Poland wouldn't beat out senior team for 37p.

[velik_m]

rtvslo says a loss for 37 points, but I think it doesn't even matter, Poland wouldn't beat out senior team for 37p.

I think our all time worst defeat is something like 25 points, so yeah i don't see us lose by that much, least of all against Poland of all teams. I think we're safe for second round.

[velik_m]

It turns out Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_EuroBasket_2013) has me covered:



So the next tie-breaker is overall point differential.

To sum it up:
A win by Croatia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 1-1 score.
A win by CR by exactly 1 point and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia: Croatia, Spain and Slovenia all go through with 1-1 score.
A win by CR by exactly 2 points and a win by Spain and a loss by Slovenia for more than 35 points to Poland: Spain (2-0) and CR (1-1) and Croatia (0-2).
Any other scenario: Slovenia (2-0) and Spain (1-1) and CR (0-2).

Replaced the points with score to make it clearer (defeat is 1 point)

[Frenchie]

Bruno (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2449) Is Diaw still playing with that aggressiveness you spoke of during the prep games? (I haven't watched any games don't get ESPN3 and haven't bothered with any of the streams)

Boris is playing with an adequate aggressivity. Yesterday, he was surprisingly taking shots after shots in the 3rd quarter, no matter if they're tough or not. However, I think he was a bit more aggresive during the prep games. Right now, Tony is carrying much more the load than in the firsts games of prep. So Boris is more hidden but still solid.

[smaka]

Tony was great yesterday, literally took the game in his hands and led France to win.

France really lacks a really good C, Ajinca is solid, but that's not it, and Lauvergne was really bad yesterday, missed a couple of easy shots. If they had Noah they would be my no1 favourites to win the championship, but without him I'd give Spain a better chance. But we will see, anything is possible and I also think that France hasn't showed their real game at this tournament yet.

[velik_m]

Tony was great yesterday, literally took the game in his hands and led France to win.

France really lacks a really good C, Ajinca is solid, but that's not it, and Lauvergne was really bad yesterday, missed a couple of easy shots. If they had Noah they would be my no1 favourites to win the championship, but without him I'd give Spain a better chance. But we will see, anything is possible and I also think that France hasn't showed their real game at this tournament yet.

To be honest France is playing a bunch of crappy teams in the first round, so it's hard to say anything solid about France at this point...

[Bruno]

Bruno Is Diaw still playing with that aggressiveness you spoke of during the prep games? (I haven't watched any games don't get ESPN3 and haven't bothered with any of the streams)

He is still fine in that area but he has faded in the past couple of weeks. He just hasn't been good in the last few friendly games (against Spain and Slovenia) and to start the Eurobasket. He has missed shots he made earlier this summer, he is looking slow and his rebounding is poor.

[Brazil]

Parker carrying the team he is supposed to carry...nothing to see here

[polandprzem]

We will whooop Slovenias asses !!

[velik_m]

We will whooop Slovenias asses !!

And then go home...

[smaka]

We will whooop Slovenias asses !!

Your confidence is indeed priceless. :lol

[turkish spurs fan]

petteri koponen

[smaka]

Finland :wow

[jyra]

Hmm Koponen's draft rights are held by Dallas and the Spurs have been looking for a PG..

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Marco Belinelli will NOT play today against Sweden. Travis Diener is out as well missing the second consecutive game

[velik_m]

Bosnia has to beat Lithuania by 10+ pts to advance, Belgium can secure promotion by beating France

[racm]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Marco Belinelli will NOT play today against Sweden. Travis Diener is out as well missing the second consecutive game




Resting for the tournament round?

[jyra]

Resting for the tournament round?

Probably, Sweden is already eliminated so the result doesn't carry over to the next round.

[velik_m]

So far so good for Slovenia. Croatia down 16-17 after 1st qtr

[velik_m]

33-32 after 1st half for Czechs

[velik_m]

Things not looking up for Bosnia

[ace3g]

Nando just tweeted this

https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1240482_590215197687350_605152807_n.jpg

which originated from this FB page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/basketstorefr/183854378323436

[velik_m]

Croatia slowly but surely taking control, up by 5 after 3rd.

[polandprzem]

Hey Slovenia, are you fighting for anything vs Poland?

[jyra]

Damn Mirza is going crazy right now, B&H can still get through to next round if they beat Lithuania by more then 10 points.

[velik_m]

Refs really hate the czechs, this game is done, Croatia wins :(

[smaka]

Drama in Jesenice, B&H vs Lithuania.

[velik_m]

Croatian win makes the game against Poland completely pointless. IMO Dragič should rest, Blažič, Murič, Balažič and Slokar should play 40 minutes...

[smaka]

Play Lakovic 40 minutes and then never play him on this tournament again. :hat

[velik_m]

Play Lakovic 40 minutes and then never play him on this tournament again. :hat

Nah, i want them to try with Blažič and Joksimovič at point

[polandprzem]

13-4:)

[smaka]

Slovenia = f:lolcked

Struggling with really bad teams... If we continue to play like this, Italy, Greece and Finland vs. Slovenia will be like a nice walk in the park for them.

[Texas_Ranger]

Slovenia sucks

[smaka]

Lol

[polandprzem]

I told you hahaha :lol

[smaka]

I told you hahaha :lol

Congrats man, I would never bet on Poland. You screwed with us today.

[Mal]

Congrats man, I would never bet on Poland. You screwed with us today.

I did it actually. Right after I saw here, that Slovenia will play for nothing to gain.

[Bruno]

So second round is:

Group E:
Serbia, France: 2/0
Ukraine, Lithuania: 1/1
Latvia, Belgium: 0/2

Group F:
Italy: 2/0
Slovenia, Spain, Croatia, Finland: 1/1
Greece: 0/2

Group F should be a lot of fun.

[Texas_Ranger]

Oh wait. I almost forgot. Slovenia did win Spain! We should all celebrate!!! Huraaa!!

[temujin]

Group F will be fun.

It theorically should have featured
Spain, best Eurpean team,
Russia, second best in the Olimpics,
Turkey, best in the last world cup,
Greece (with Euroleague MVP player)
home team team Slovenia
wild card.

Italy and Finland got inadvertedly in.

In the other group
France will face powerhouse Latvia,
a young and depleted Serbian team and Lithuania.

France was lucky, to say the least.

[smaka]

So second round is:

Group E:
Serbia, France: 2/0
Ukraine, Lithuania: 1/1
Latvia, Belgium: 0/2

Group F:
Italy: 2/0
Slovenia, Spain, Croatia, Finland: 1/1
Greece: 0/2

Group F should be a lot of fun.

I think nobody had predicted before Eurobasket that group F would look like this. It will be a tough one. In group A, Belgium and Ukraine are absolute outsiders.

[eric365]

With the FNT luck, Spain is coasting and will face France in quarter final like in 2009

[smaka]

Looks like France will play all 3 evening games - good news for American fans :)

[Bruno]

The Spain/Greece game that will be this Thursday should be a great one. If Greece lost, they are in deep trouble and will need some help to qualify for the QF.

Regarding Spurs players, Parker has just been a monster so far in this Eurobasket. He averages 18.8 ppg in only 27 mpg. His craziest stat is maybe a .692 2P%. Diaw and De Colo have been "so-so".

[Bruno]

And fucking Mirza Teletovic:
ujNEJdB3W9c

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyu6J4NP7yU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0YVvhzyfc

[ata]

We will whooop Slovenias asses !!

Good call! Congrats.

[ata]

Slovenia sucks

Where is sendman, maljkovic's cocksucker, when you need him?

[kobexxx]

Spain vs Russia

[Chinook]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyu6J4NP7yU

Reminds me of that Green assist to Diaw last year.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pxvyTrJx0

[Baam]

The Spain/Greece game that will be this Thursday should be a great one. If Greece lost, they are in deep trouble and will need some help to qualify for the QF.

Regarding Spurs players, Parker has just been a monster so far in this Eurobasket. He averages 18.8 ppg in only 27 mpg. His craziest stat is maybe a .692 2P%. Diaw and De Colo have been "so-so".

De Colo didn't deserve to make the team over Fournier who had a better season in the first place...

Btw Gelabale is arguably the best reliable player after TP, pretty sure he already signed somewhere but if the Spurs could get rid of De Colo and sign Gelable it'd be a good move...

[kobyz]

Where is Ian on that French team? He is better than all those bigs they had there, wanted to see him play...

[Bruno]

De Colo didn't deserve to make the team over Fournier who had a better season in the first place...

Btw Gelabale is arguably the best reliable player after TP, pretty sure he already signed somewhere but if the Spurs could get rid of De Colo and sign Gelable it'd be a good move...

It's debatable that Fournier has had a better rookie season than De Colo. Personally, I would go with De Colo having the better rookie season.

And Fournier wasn't fighting with De Colo for a roster spot. De Colo is a key piece of the NT and was a lock to make the 12 players roster. Forunier was fighting with Charles Kahudi for a roster spot.

Gelabale will play in Russia next season.

[Bruno]

Where is Ian on that French team? He is better than all those bigs they had there, wanted to see him play...

Mahinmi doesn't want to play for the FNT for whatever reason(s).

[smaka]

Mahinmi doesn't want to play for the FNT for whatever reason(s).

French Beno Udrih? :lol At least he probably didn't cancel the participation via SMS.

[kobyz]

Mahinmi doesn't want to play for the FNT for whatever reason(s).

Surprising, it's not like him to do so i think, very strange!

[Frenchie]

I'm not sure that Mahinmi is much better than our centers. Ajinça is doing a nice job right now. Lauvergne makes also a lot of good things and is one of the players we could see every year in FNT. Petro is not very good since the beginning of the tournament but I don't know if Mahinmi would have made a bigger impact than him.

[Bruno]

French Beno Udrih? :lol At least he probably didn't cancel the participation via SMS.

I would give the Beno Udrih award to Joakim Noah but the story around Mahinmi is quite ridiculous. Mahinmi's ego is hurt because he wasn't picked in 2011 and because last spring the coach didn't make the effort of traveling to Indiana to talk with him while he traveled to the USA to see other players. Mahinmi having a wife and a daughter surely doesn't entice him to go play with the NT.

And while France missed some players like Mahinmi, Noah, Turiaf, Ali Traoré or Séraphin, the only true loss is Noah.

[smaka]

Udrih also had his ego hurt, I think it was 2009, when he wanted assurance before Eurobasket that he will be a starter. When our coach didn't want to promise him anything, he left training camp. In 2011 he didn't come because he had a wedding. For comparison, Goran Dragic had a wedding this year, during training camp, was given a day off and everything was fine. But for Udrih... I have no words for him, if I were in charge of the media, I wouldn't even report about him anymore because of his actions.

Meanwhile Lorbek might be following his steps as he always has some excuses. In 2011 he said he won't play but then like whole country almost made a revolution and he changed his mind. This year he is not playing because of a rutine surgery, which has ca. 1 month rehab. And we all know when European clubs finish their season...

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT0zh_xCUAAlWId.png:large

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtFZT5Owshg

[racm]

If the French bigs can fluster Valanciunas all the better.

Taylor could have a really good sophomore outing with Charlotte.

[mountainballer]

And fucking Mirza Teletovic:
ujNEJdB3W9c

very curious about his situation in Brooklyn. couldn't crack the rotation last season and now he faces KG and AK playing his position. (and I'm pretty sure AK got also kind of a PT guarantee to sign that ridiculous contract).
anyway, even if they all say Prokhorov doesn't care about money, not even about double figure millions, considering the tax he will cost the Nets about 12 million this year and 9-12 million next season. even Prokhorov might find a better use for that money. I'm pretty sure his shooting show at the Eurobasket will remind some teams about what Teletovic can do. and there are some teams that could just absorb his contract. (not the Spurs though and I also didn't want to start a "how can we get Teletovic" discussion. even if he in fact would be a more talented Matt Bonner)

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT5Df6ACIAAdQjk.jpg:large

[smaka]

I'm going to France-Lithuania tonight. Hopefully it'll be a good one and France will win. :toast

[ace3g]

France vs Lithuania

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=31113&lng=en

[ace3g]

Not a good start for France down 12-22

[Dex]

France looks awful.

[Dex]

Nice run to bring it within 25-21.

[Hemotivo]

Lauvergne makes also a lot of good things and is one of the players we could see every year in FNT.

this kid is great; france got a center for the next 10 years :toast

[velik_m]

France will need to re-adjust, they have been playing some crappy teams, no such games anymore.

[ace3g]

Just when France thought they were back in the game, Javtokas takes over, lol (just kidding but he did score 4 points late in 3rd), France down 42-51 entering the 4th quarter.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Lithuania is doing great despite their crazy rotations and lineup change

[ace3g]

Now it looks like Kleiza is on a roll now

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

France fouls 3 possessions in a row

[Mal]

France, as always, is very bad.

[Texas_Ranger]

damn I thought France would get gold, but they play really bad. Sucks cause I was rooting for them.

[racm]

why are the French underachievers in FIBA despite having a lot of NBA players? Can anyone explain (especially Bruno)?

[ace3g]

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[Bruno]

why are the French underachievers in FIBA despite having a lot of NBA players? Can anyone explain (especially Bruno)?

Batum sucks. FNT coach sucks.

[Dex]

why are the French underachievers in FIBA despite having a lot of NBA players? Can anyone explain (especially Bruno)?

I'm pretty sure it's because they are a Tony Parker led team. :stirpot:

[smaka]

I just came back from the game (was rocking Spurs t-shirt :hat) and I must say that I agree with Bruno about French coach.

Especially his rotations are very strange. I was keeping eye on Tony - coach played him whole 3rd quarter and first minute in 4th quarter. This is already strange, because you don't play your best player whole quarter if you know that it will be a close game. When it was 9 minutes left in a game, he pulled Parker on the bench, and I thought it's just a quick rest for minute or so, but I was wrong. He kept Parker on bench until it was 5 or 4 minutes left, but even then Parker had to stand up and walk to coach and request a substitution (coach didn't call him). This was really strange, you don't rest your best players until it's almost too late to save the game...

And yeah, Batum is awful, he passed the ball to Lithuanian player or in out of bounds at least 3 times in the beginning of the game. He seemed to me like he wasn't really interested in playing a game.

Tony was good, but nothing above average. Also missed a couple of free throws.
Diaw was passing the ball a lot, I especially liked his passes to Ajinca, which were big for French team in 3rd quarter when Ajinca made 3 baskets after Boris' passes (I think!).
Nando disappointed me defensively, he was really bad at defensing 3 point shots and backdoor cuts. He scored most of his points when the game was already decided.

All in all I wasn't entirely impressed by French team, I think they will need to fix some things if they want to get a medal.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7VmnS191M

[smaka]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2013/09/11/65028466_ov7a2959.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2013/09/11/65028463_ov7a3054.jpg

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[racm]

Seems like the FNT coach makes Vinny del Negro look like Pop from your description.

And Batum's great in the NBA. Why does he falter in FIBA play?

[smaka]

Seems like the FNT coach makes Vinny del Negro look like Pop from your description.

And Batum's great in the NBA. Why does he falter in FIBA play?

I don't know, at some point it looked like other players weren't following his ideas, but on the other hand it looked like he didn't even care to put too much effort into his plays. Although he played some good defense in 2nd half. I don't know what's up with him, maybe motivation? But it's just my bold guess.

Today Lithuania defended Parker really good, he was double teamed a lot of times. However, France didn't play good defense at all, Lithuanians could get to the basket too easy too many times for my taste.

[jyra]

I think that Batum struggles with his role on this team. He has to take on a lot more responsiblity on the offensive end than he is used to because he is the only guy apart from TP who can break down a defense and get to the basket. Instead he is mostly spotting up in the corner and often passes up driving lanes when coming off picks. You rarely see him being really aggressive and looking to score consistently throughout a game, especially when his shot is not on. I remember him playing for Nancy during the lockout where the whole offense was run through him and he was a beast bullying people on post ups, that's the guy France needs more of.

[Bruno]

Batum is struggling because he is mentally weak. He has great skills and physical tools but his head isn't following. He check out of games when he faces some difficulties.

For FNT coach, one of his weakness is that he will always pick the road that is the easiest for him instead of picking the road that will make France the better team. For example, when picking players and determining their roles, his priority will be to avoid conflicts and have an easy roster to manage. He will go with players that fit his system and will be happy with the role they have on the team. Tweaking his system or managing egos seems to be too complicate for him.

At the end, France might get a medal because they still are in a good position to reach the QF and after that, it's a single game elimination tournament, but it won't change that they have a poor coach.

[velik_m]

why are the French underachievers in FIBA despite having a lot of NBA players? Can anyone explain (especially Bruno)?

They don't have good shooters, so the defending team just has to pack the paint, which is easier under FIBA rules than in NBA.

France still has a slim chance to win the first place in this game but they have to beat Latvia and then blow out Serbia.

[velik_m]

Croatia gained a lot of confidence by beating Slovenia in OT. I could easily see them getting a medal. I think Spain, Italy, Croatia and Greece will advance from this group, Serbia, Lithuania, France and Latvia from the other group.

[smaka]

It will be tough for Slovenia to proceed. Either Croatia or Greece will need to suck at some point if we want to move to quarterfinals. Saturday's game against Greece might be the most important game for Slovenia.

[Bruno]

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[xmas1997]

Is RC scouting a Greek PG?

[velik_m]

Greece leads at half 41-38

[mountainballer]

Is RC scouting a Greek PG?
No. he is scouting Victor Claver and somehow the guy is delivering his first good game.

[velik_m]

Greece wins 79-75 :/

[xmas1997]

Who was the leading scorer?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Spanoulis, Fernandez and Gasol had 20 points

[Mal]

No. he is scouting Victor Claver and somehow the guy is delivering his first good game.

And how would Spurs land him ??

[Raven]

Seems like the FNT coach makes Vinny del Negro look like Pop from your description.

And Batum's great in the NBA. Why does he falter in FIBA play?

less running, less open threes basically.

[Raven]

imho france really misses M. Pietrus.

[Bruno]

Eurobasket second round is the perfect setting for NBA FO people to watch best European players. The 12 teams qualify are all playing in the same arena with 3 games by day. For RC, another incentive of this trip is to watch the french Spurs players.

[xmas1997]

Didn't the Spurs once hold the rights to Spanoulis, or do they still?

[spurs10]

Eurobasket second round is the perfect setting for NBA FO people to watch best European players. The 12 teams qualify are all playing in the same arena with 3 games by day. For RC, another incentive of this trip is to watch the french Spurs players.Just looked on espn3, saw Italy scheduled for 2:45 this afternoon (central time/USA). Thought France was playing at 2:00, but didn't see it listed.

[ace3g]

Italy vs Slovenia

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=31117&lng=en

[spurs10]

Just saw France is tomorrow...thanks Bruno and ace3g for the updates! Very cool of ya....

[velik_m]

Belinelli causing all sorts of troubles to our defense...

[ace3g]

Looks like Belinelli is in PG mode: 4 assists and 5 points at end of 1st quarter; Italy 21-18

[look_at_g_shred]

Looks like Belinelli is in PG mode: 4 assists and 5 points at end of 1st quarter; Italy 21-18

Thanks for the update! Do you know if highlights can be found like on Youtube after the game?

[velik_m]

Italians have better shooter, we have better bigs, pretty even so far. I expect an Italian zone in the second half...

[ace3g]

Thanks for the update! Do you know if highlights can be found like on Youtube after the game?

No problem and yes they post the highlights here for the tournament:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FIBAEuropeTV/videos

[velik_m]

Slovenia leads 45:39 at half

[look_at_g_shred]

No problem and yes they post the highlights here for the tournament:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FIBAEuropeTV/videos

Thanks man.

[ace3g]

Belinelli didn't have a good 2nd quarter, ended up with the same stats he had from the 1st



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
0/4
0.0%
1/3
33.3%
2/2
100.0%
1
(0/1)
4
0
5

[velik_m]

This will go down to the wire...

[ace3g]

Italy has no rebounding.

[Dex]

Beli is 1/11 right now.

I'm not a huge follower of Belinelli, but from what I have seen, that seems to be one of his problems. He's a Jekyll/Hyde type of player. He'll go and put up 20 one night, and then put up 2 the next. His consistency leaves something to be desired.

While I'm sure Pop is going to give him the green light to shoot, we'll see how he manages the new rotations and minutes which, as we all know, can be sporadic at best.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Slovenian crowd is great! And the Dragic brothers took over the game late.

[Raven]

:lol :lolinelli

[ace3g]

Italy lost 77-84; rebounding/2nd chance points was the difference (44-29 rebounding for Slovenia)

[velik_m]

Yey! :) Italy doing us a solid by not playing any zone defense.

Now watch us drop the games against Greece and Finland :(

[Texas_Ranger]

Zoran is my hero.

[velik_m]

Italy lost 77-84; rebounding/2nd chance points was the difference (44-29 rebounding for Slovenia)

Dragič brothers are teh awesome! :spin

[smaka]

Zoran mothefucking Dragic. :toast

[smaka]

http://replygif.net/i/1049.gif

[Texas_Ranger]

someone please post the Nachbar dunk. :rollin

[Raven]

italy got postered so many times today they filled their whole room :lol

[smaka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmaUrbTZtE

Boki dunk :)

[Texas_Ranger]

thanx, I missed the dunking Boki.

[ace3g]

I always wanted Nachbar on the Spurs

[smaka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaYHqErQomY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhsN13M_uLLQQ8lFewoXxzA

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT_i9uJCEAAS6wX.jpg:large

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1oH6TKMqA

[smaka]

Since ace3g hasn't posted this yet... :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1oH6TKMqA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhsN13M_uLLQQ8lFewoXxzA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vgyAEh_wY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhsN13M_uLLQQ8lFewoXxzA

EDIT: lol, seconds too late.

[dylankerouac]

Well, at least Beli won't be asked to carry as much of the Spurs offense as he had to carry today. As it seemed to be his initial focus, it's also disappointing to see that his playmaking skills were neutralized so early in this contest.

The focus of passing on the Spurs will give Beli better shot selection and clearer drivers than the ones he had to create for himself today -his multiple failed layups made me wish he had tried stepbacks or some other jumper after creating space for himself. I recall the only clear shot that Beli took he made. At the same time Slovenia guarded him well and he did not or could not counter.

[velik_m]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT_i9uJCEAAS6wX.jpg:large

:hat

[velik_m]

Well, at least Beli won't be asked to carry as much of the Spurs offense as he had to carry today. As it seemed to be his initial focus, it's also disappointing to see that his playmaking skills were neutralized so early in this contest.

The focus of passing on the Spurs will give Beli better shot selection and clearer drivers than the ones he had to create for himself today -his multiple failed layups made me wish he had tried stepbacks or some other jumper after creating space for himself. I recall the only clear shot that Beli took he made. At the same time Slovenia guarded him well and he did not or could not counter.

Slovenian defenders did everything to stop him from getting into any kind of rythm, even if that meant fouling. We basicaly threw every guard except Gogi against him, guarding him closely. He won't get that kind of attention on the spurs.

It was the italian defense that failed them the most though.

[ace3g]

Belinelli will have better assist and FTA #s compared to Neal because he isn't always looking for the jumpshot coming off screens.

[racm]

Belinelli will have better assist and FTA #s compared to Neal because he isn't always looking for the jumpshot coming off screens.

Yes - he attacks the basket more and I saw him get a few drive-and-kick assists.

[senorglory]

Spanoulis! Where's killbillpana?

[Kamnik]

Zoran Dragič went undrafted.... this means he can sign with any team?

The two headed dragons playing together - my new NBA dream!!!!!

[Kamnik]

p.s.

I want to hear this at the end of the gold medal match! ;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gFNaGYEs8

[smaka]

There's a chance you'll hear it regardless of the winner, tbh.

[velik_m]

Lithuania beats Belgium 86-67. Belgium is now without chance to advance.

[mountainballer]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B7FC4584E-3C59-4AE8-A4CB-0025571723C5%7Dflexible.jpg
Valanciunas definitely has some big hands.

[Raven]

Zoran Dragič went undrafted.... this means he can sign with any team?

The two headed dragons playing together - my new NBA dream!!!!!

he was with the rockets in camp last year, i remember the fans really liked him, but he still wasn't signed, imho because of his jumper and him not being an offensive statpadder..

[velik_m]

Ukraine beat Serbia and complicated things in group E

[ace3g]

Pooh Jeter with 20 points

[smaka]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1231303_515202681890987_1829520733_n.jpg

Tony doing something at Latvian bench before tonight's game. What the hell is he doing? :lol

[ace3g]

Getting some info on Davis Bertans....on serious note not sure.

[smaka]

It looks to me like he has somethink like a paper in his hand and is writing something. Like he'd come to get their starting 5 or something. But that doesn't really happen so idk what was his intention here.

[dylankerouac]

Probably signing autographs. He's known internationally.

Anyway, here's hoping that France gets the W tonight.

[smaka]

If they can keep Latvia from getting really hot from downtown, they will win.

[ace3g]

box score link

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=31119&lng=en

[smaka]

Probably signing autographs. He's known internationally.

Anyway, here's hoping that France gets the W tonight.

You were right. Our commentator just said that Latvian coach asked Tony for an autograph before the game.

[smaka]

Looks like Batum heard all the criticism, he's been balling today. 9 pts 5 reb 3 as 1 stl after 1st quarter.

[xmas1997]

Looks like Batum heard all the criticism, he's been balling today. 9 pts 5 reb 3 as 1 stl after 1st quarter.


I thought everyone said he was recovering from an injury. Am I wrong about this?

[ace3g]

Key Facts


France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


5
N. Batum
12
7
3
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


6
A. Diot
2
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


7
J. Petro
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
10
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


11
F. Pietrus
2
4
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


12
N. De Colo
2
0
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


13
B. Diaw
8
5
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


14
A. Ajinca
14
3
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


15
M. Gelabale
2
1
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png




France 52-35

[smaka]

Dairis Bertans, brother of Davis Bertans, has 21 points with more than a quarter left.

[ace3g]

Latvia making it a game, France only up 76-65 at end of the 3rd



France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


5
N. Batum
19
9
5
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


6
A. Diot
2
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


7
J. Petro
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
14
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


11
F. Pietrus
2
6
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


12
N. De Colo
6
1
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


13
B. Diaw
12
7
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


14
A. Ajinca
17
5
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


15
M. Gelabale
4
1
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png

[ace3g]

France wins 102-91



France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


5
N. Batum
19
10
6
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


6
A. Diot
5
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


7
J. Petro
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
23
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


11
F. Pietrus
2
8
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


12
N. De Colo
8
1
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


13
B. Diaw
16
9
3
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


14
A. Ajinca
25
5
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


15
M. Gelabale
4
1
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul5.png

[ace3g]

Belinelli's Seen Growth, Now Wants WinsBy Dimitris Kontos

Italy suffered their first defeat at EuroBasket 2013 on Thursday night, 84-77 to hosts Slovenia, but maintain intact their chances in the race for a quarter-final spot from Second Round Group F.

The Azzurri will punch their ticket to the last eight of the tournament if they win their game against Croatia on Saturday.

A big part of their hopes rest upon Marco Belinelli, and anyone who converses with the star guard will be assured that he is up to the challenge.

"I think it's important to play for the national team, for our country, to play the best we can," Belinelli told fibaeurope.com.

"I really care about this team, it is important for me as a player to grow, and also for the growth of basketball and young players in Italy.

"Two years ago we didn't play a good EuroBasket but right now we have the possibility to play well, we believe we are a good team and we are not scared of anyone."

Belinelli is averaging 14.8 points, four rebounds and 2.8 assists-per-game for Italy so far in the tournament.

"In this team I try to help everybody, I try to be the leader on this team," he admitted.

"I try to help my teammates to stay together on the court and off the court, I think it's part of my motivation right now.

"I mean I am 27 now, I think you need to grow every day as a player but at the same time it's time to win and improve as a group."

continue: http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_Sd6NMPMnIOEqQ4s8dtHT50.articleMode_on.html

[Brazil]

France wins 102-91



France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


5
N. Batum
19
10
6
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


6
A. Diot
5
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


7
J. Petro
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
23
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


11
F. Pietrus
2
8
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


12
N. De Colo
8
1
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


13
B. Diaw
16
9
3
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


14
A. Ajinca
25
5
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


15
M. Gelabale
4
1
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul5.png




thanks ace3g, appreciated :tu

[smaka]

http://siol.sdn.si/sn/img/13/256/635147074062148297_fra_lat_34802_130913_uu.jpg

http://siol.sdn.si/sn/img/13/256/635147074154019769_fra_lat_0648_130913_mkv.jpg

[ace3g]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xX53HDOBHFWWujgyDuSbhg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY3MTtweW9mZj0wO3E9OD U7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309131522553432926-p5.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/4qEur7vz310bfiF84acSxA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTExMDM7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Sports/ap/201309131451534782890

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_AIyX30rMlU5pzDypRgVuQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTE1Mzg7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Sports/ap/201309131600576422955

[smaka]

Ime
Minute igranja
FG
2P%
3P%
PM
Sk
PO
IŽ
PŽ
BL
ON

Toč


Met
%
Met
%
Met
%
Met
%
N
O
Skp




4
Lauvergne, J. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_62278.html)






















*5
Batum, N. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_47811.html)
33
7/10
70.0
5/7
71.4
2/3
66.7
3/3
100.0
4
6
10
6
2
1
1
2
3
18
19


6
Diot, A. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_47827.html)
15
2/4
50.0
1/2
50.0
1/2
50.0
0/0
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
2
-1
5


7
Petro, J. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_38124.html)






















8
Kahudi, C. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_45649.html)






















*9
Parker, T. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_28162.html)
30
9/17
52.9
9/16
56.3
0/1
0.0
5/6
83.3
0
0
0
1
3
0
0
3
2
10
23


10
Heurtel, T. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_66197.html)
6
0/1
0.0
0/1
0.0
0/0
0.0
0/0
0.0
0
0
0
1
1
1
0
1
0
0
0


11
Pietrus, F. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_28163.html)
20
1/3
33.3
1/3
33.3
0/0
0.0
0/0
0.0
4
4
8
0
1
1
0
3
1
1
2


12
De Colo, N. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_56280.html)
18
3/7
42.9
3/4
75.0
0/3
0.0
2/2
100.0
0
1
1
2
0
0
0
3
3
-5
8


*13
Diaw, B. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_33925.html)
32
7/8
87.5
7/8
87.5
0/0
0.0
2/2
100.0
2
7
9
3
1
1
1
1
2
5
16


*14
Ajinca, A. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_47801.html)
25
9/12
75.0
9/12
75.0
0/0
0.0
7/8
87.5
2
3
5
1
2
0
3
1
7
17
25


*15
Gelabale, M. (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/si/cid_c3tbP002GgYu1c94jBO422.teamID_282.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_38701.html)
21
2/5
40.0
2/3
66.7
0/2
0.0
0/0
0.0
0
1
1
2
0
0
1
5
1
10
4



Full stats, if anyone is interested.

[ace3g]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cUM7X03UlcKa/x1400.jpg

[Bruno]

Latvians are some crazy shooters.

We will see the results of tomorrow group F games but it's likely France won't even know whether they should try to win or lose their last game Serbia.

[ace3g]

Latvians are some crazy shooters.

We will see the results of tomorrow group F games but it's likely France won't even know whether they should try to win or lose their last game Serbia.

That bodes well for Davis Bertans then.

[ace3g]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B5398DEAE-2BBB-4717-8AEC-83B6E12A4051%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BE45A74D1-25A5-420D-9D53-9DBE636F5876%7Dflexible.jpg

[Bruno]

That bodes well for Davis Bertans then.

Davis Bertans is an amazing shooter.

For example in 2012/2013, Bertans played 57 games for a total of 1302 minutes in Euroleague, Serbian league and Adriatic league combined. In these 1302 minutes, he was 113-262 (.431 3P%) from behind the arc.

[xmas1997]

Davis Bertans is an amazing shooter.

For example in 2012/2013, Bertans played 57 games for a total of 1302 minutes in Euroleague, Serbian league and Adriatic league combined. In these 1302 minutes he was 113-262 (.431 3P%) from behind the arc.


Who has the NBA rights to him?

[Bruno]

Who has the NBA rights to him?

Spurs but he tore his ACL in the last game of the season and his out until February/March. He is in SA doing his rehab.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tvxPuBVCHU

[ata]

I will attend France-Serbia game.

For a drink before game - send PM

[velik_m]

Italy leads against Croatia 36-31 at half. Belinelli with some early foul trouble

[ace3g]

EuroBasket @EuroBasket
(http://twitter.com/EuroBasket)Croatia wins for 6th time in a row at #EuroBasket2013 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23EuroBasket2013). The last victim was @Italbasket (http://twitter.com/Italbasket). Final score: 76:68.

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
(http://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt)After strong 5-0 start at Eurobasket, Italy has lost two straight and is in danger of not advancing to the quarterfinals.

Belinelli




Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
3/6
50.0%
0/1
0.0%
3/5
60.0%
1
(0/1)
3
4
9

[jyra]

Belinelli was benched for most of the 4th quarter as Italy was trying to make up a double digit deficit. Datome almost brought them back, the guy can really shoot.

[velik_m]

Italy is in real trouble now, they still have to play Spain, which will be a hard match. They are probably rooting for Slovenia to beat Greece tonight. Croatia is already in quarter finals.

[smaka]

So one out of Slovenia, Spain, Greece or Italy won't qualify to quarterfinals. Who will it be?

[Dex]

Greece doesn't stand a chance in hell.

/KBPbait

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvovKdv9ziw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUNaFbPHi0Q

[ace3g]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/MMf2pXXAFLInLS_5mTWw6w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTEyNDk7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309140904326774412-p5.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8FeJR.WZBAFKc5AgpcHetA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTE1OTQ7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309140843314364363-p5.jpg

[velik_m]

So one out of Slovenia, Spain, Greece or Italy won't qualify to quarterfinals. Who will it be?

If Greece loses tonight they are out...

[ace3g]

Spain won 82-56 over Finland

[ace3g]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BA1CF1F20-F5AD-4A52-9E6F-29167AD0F070%7Dflexible.jpg

[velik_m]

Dragič leads against Greece 13-6

[Bruno]

378951924541714432

[ace3g]

Slovenia vs Greece - box score

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=31123&lng=en

[velik_m]

Slovenia leads 26-13 after 1st qtr.

Greek zone defense in 3... 2... 1...

[velik_m]

Greece - Team Dragič 27-27 after 1st half. Still no sighting of zone defense

[Pero]

Slovenia leads 43-27 at the half.

[Pero]

Greece - Team Dragič 27-27 after 1st half. Still no sighting of zone defense
Fortunately for us.

BTW, does anyone else dislike the commentator? :lol

[velik_m]

Fortunately for us.

BTW, does anyone else dislike the commentator? :lol

Yeah, he's anoying i just mentally tune him out. Half the time i don't even know what he's talking about

[Pero]

Yeah, he's anoying i just mentally tune him out. Half the time i don't even know what he's talking about
Haha... I actually thought they realized he wasn't very good and that's why he wasn't doing the previous couple games.

[velik_m]

The most anoying thing about slovenian commentators is their notion that they should talk at all times. They just don't shut up...

[ata]

Greek Steve Nash and Spurs' Savior 27
Brothers Dragic's mafia 43

after 1st half

[velik_m]

Poor finish of 3rd qtr

[ata]

+16 after Q3; we better pick up our game after 8:0 run

[ata]

We are fucked

[Pero]

V-Spam's constant whining bearing fruit. And Maljkovic fucked up by not calling the time out when the lead was cut to 15.

[jyra]

That's three stupid turnovers after jump passes for Greece, at least that they made it interesting again.

[Bruno]

Great win, Slovenia. Congrats, the Dragics are awesome.

Regarding Greece, they are better without Spanoulis than with him.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Italy makes the quarter-finals at @EuroBasket (http://twitter.com/EuroBasket)

[velik_m]

We can't do anything easy...

[Texas_Ranger]

good win.

[velik_m]

good win.

Choke averted :tu

[velik_m]

Heh, i was wrong. If Italy beats Spain and Greece beats Croatia Spain is out...

[Pero]

I just hope we don't get Serbia or Latvia in the quarterfinals.

[SpursSerb]

It will interesting tomorrow in France vs Serbia.The winner probably faces Spain in quarterfinals. It could be Greece vs France in 2009 all over again. :D

[anakha]

V-Span costing his team the win? KBP must be crying somewhere in Arkansas tonight.

[Bruno]

It will interesting tomorrow in France vs Serbia.The winner probably faces Spain in quarterfinals. It could be Greece vs France in 2009 all over again. :D

I'm not sure Croatia will beat Greece in the last day. Croatia is already qualified and Greece won't be eliminated since they play their game before the Spain/Italy game.

And Serbia won't try to lose. If they win, they will finish first and likely face Italy in QF.

[smaka]

For some reason I just hope we don't get France in the quarterfinals...

[smaka]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2013/09/14/65029607_ov7a8798.jpg
Dragon :hat

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2013/09/14/65029605_ov7a8778.jpg
And :lol @ this pic

[ace3g]

Nate Jones @JonesOnTheNBA
(http://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA)True hoop head RT @jamesfgoldstein (http://twitter.com/jamesfgoldstein): At Euro Basket Championships in Slovenia #EuroBasket2013 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23EuroBasket2013) pic.twitter.com/izs5RvAdht (http://t.co/izs5RvAdht)

[smaka]

Saw him outside the arena today, but had no idea who he was. :tu

[velik_m]

http://img.rtvslo.si/_up/upload/2013/09/14/65029605_ov7a8778.jpg
And :lol @ this pic

:lmao

[Kamnik]

Fortunately for us.

BTW, does anyone else dislike the commentator? :lol

Our commentators are HORRIBLE. Not just bad... fu**ing horrible!!

[ace3g]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
(http://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt)Latvia loses to Belgium, 60-56, and misses out on a chance to reach Eurobasket quarterfinals. Ukraine, coached by Mike Fratello, is in.

John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
(http://twitter.com/johnschuhmann)Wow. Belgium beats Latvia, meaning that Ukraine is in the Eurobasket quarters & doesn't have to beat Lithuania today.

[ata]

Our commentators are HORRIBLE. Not just bad... fu**ing horrible!!

Watch at Š1; Bavec & Martič are way better than those two Bozos on RTVSLO.

EDIT: LOL Latvia

[Pero]

Phew, I feel much relieved. Now the best would be if we got Ukraine in the quarterfinals.

[smaka]

Phew, I feel much relieved. Now the best would be if we got Ukraine in the quarterfinals.


Ukraine is not even as bad as it sounds. I think we are getting France though, I feel like they will lose (intentionally?) tonight.

[Frenchie]

Ukraine is not even as bad as it sounds. I think we are getting France though, I feel like they will lose (intentionally?) tonight.

Slovenia will probably defeat Finland tomorrow and go to the quarterfinals with the first seed. France will be second or third. So we're not going to face each other. Slovenia should play Ukraine in quarterfinals, not bad at all.

I expect tomorraow : Greece def. Croatia, Spain def. Ital and Slovenia def. Finlan. The classification would be in this case : 1. Slovenia, 2. Spain, 3. Croatia, 4. Italy.

[smaka]

Slovenia will probably defeat Finland tomorrow and go to the quarterfinals with the first seed. France will be second or third. So we're not going to face each other. Slovenia should play Ukraine in quarterfinals, not bad at all.

I expect tomorraow : Greece def. Croatia, Spain def. Ital and Slovenia def. Finlan. The classification would be in this case : 1. Slovenia, 2. Spain, 3. Croatia, 4. Italy.

I'm not sure Greece will defeat Croatia. If Croatia wins, Slovenia is probably 2nd in the groups and faces loser of France vs. Serbia.

[Pero]

Yeah I'm not sure Greece will win either because they're out anyway, so no reason to put in the required effort. Would be awesome if they did though.

[Frenchie]

Greece plays in the first game of the day. If they want to have a little chance to qualify, they have to win. So, I think they're going to play as hard as they can.

[Pero]

Oh you're right, I thought they were already out. But if they win and Spain loses, Spain is out.

[smaka]

I can't believe all the bullshit I hear from Slovenian "experts" and tv commentators.

What they said:
1. Boris doesn't deserve to be in the starting 5
2. Maybe he doesn't even deserve to be at Eurobasket
3. Because he is great friend with Parker, it's probably Tony who puts him in the starting 5 (lmfao, yes, they said this!)
4. He is unskilled player.

Like French game isn't enough to make me nervous, now I have to listen to this bs. :bang

[ata]

Poor officiating again. Many calls and non-calls in favour of Serbia

[smaka]

Poor officiating again. Many calls and non-calls in favour of Serbia

Balkan...

[ata]

Who said this?
I am in arena, so I can teach "expert" some manners

[smaka]

Please do. Sagadin and Kukovica. Fucking experts. I think I will watch 2nd half on mute.

[ace3g]

Serbia up 68-56 over France with 7:50 left



France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
1
1
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


5
N. Batum
10
3
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


6
A. Diot
3
5
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


7
J. Petro
1
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
10
0
5
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


11
F. Pietrus
0
1
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


12
N. De Colo
8
1
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


13
B. Diaw
11
4
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


14
A. Ajinca
10
4
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


15
M. Gelabale
2
3
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png




http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=31125&lng=en

[SpursSerb]

Hope we can keep our heads cool and finish this.

Bogdanovic with the cojones!

[Pero]

Please do. Sagadin and Kukovica. Fucking experts. I think I will watch 2nd half on mute.

Well, Sagadin actually is an expert. :lol

[SpursSerb]

Wow didn't know France is this bad.Great victory by our youngsters.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Serbia beat France 77-65 and finished Group E in first position. France makes the QF too







Serbia
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
N. Nedovic
17
3
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


5
N. Krstic
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


6
V. Micic
2
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


7
B. Bogdanovic
14
5
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


8
N. Bjelica
7
4
3
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


9
S. Markovic
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


10
N. Kalinic
2
8
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


11
D. Gagic
8
5
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


12
N. Krstic
19
4
4
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


13
D. Andjusic
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


14
R. Katic
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


15
V. Stimac
8
6
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png






France
Pts
REB
AS
PF


4
J. Lauvergne
1
1
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul3.png


5
N. Batum
12
7
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


6
A. Diot
3
5
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


7
J. Petro
1
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png


8
C. Kahudi
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


9
T. Parker
10
0
5
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul2.png


10
T. Heurtel
0
0
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul0.png


11
F. Pietrus
0
1
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


12
N. De Colo
12
2
0
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


13
B. Diaw
12
5
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


14
A. Ajinca
12
4
2
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul4.png


15
M. Gelabale
2
3
1
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/images/foul1.png

[ace3g]

EuroBasket @EuroBasket
(http://twitter.com/EuroBasket)#EuroBasket2013 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23EuroBasket2013) 2nd Round Group E Final Standings: 1.) Serbia 2.) Lithuania 3.) France 4.) Ukraine 5.) Belgium 6.) Latvia

[smaka]

For some reason I just hope we don't get France in the quarterfinals...


Seems more and more likely to happen... :(

[Texas_Ranger]

Don't worry guys. Dragič will make Parker his bitch again. wuahahahaha :rollin

[Pero]

So it's France most likely. I just don't see Spain getting eliminated. Damn we can't even tank haha, worst case is 2nd place in the group. If Croatia wins, Maljkovic should rest the players against Finland as a win will mean absolutely nothing. Heck, it would probably be even better if we lose, more motivation against France. :lol

[Pero]

Actually what am I saying, I prefer France to Lithuania and Serbia.

[smaka]

Fuck it, I really don't like it.

Was hoping for Slovenia-France finals or something. :hat