2013 Eurobasket (September 4-22)

[Bruno]

Tomorrow is the start of the Eurobasket that will feature 4 Spurs players: Belinelli with Italy, Parker, Diaw and De Colo with France.

Official website:
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/

[apalisoc_9]

Any specific player worth looking at for possibly signing next year or the year after potential wise?

[MarCowMar]

Do they sell a live internet stream for the games? I don't see anything on the site.

[jyra]

Do they sell a live internet stream for the games? I don't see anything on the site.

You can subscribe to all FIBA competition streams here: https://secure.livebasketball.tv/buy?ICID_HOM_SB1

(But there are usually some streams for free to be found if you can live with the lower quality.)

[pad300]

Tomorrow is the start of the Eurobasket that will feature 4 Spurs players: Belinelli with Italy, Parker, Diaw and De Colo with France.

Official website:
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/

And a prospect, Sanikidze is there with Georgia. Hungary didn't make it so Hanga isn't there. Richards didn't make the GB squad. Latvia made it, but Bertrans is injured, and the story is the same with Livio Jean-Charles and France (and both of them are young to make the senior national squad anyways).

[smaka]

Do they sell a live internet stream for the games? I don't see anything on the site.

Or just google "lshunter". Free.

[smaka]

Anyone wants to guess the top 3 teams?

My wish:
1) Slovenia
2) France
3) Lithuania

Reality
1 & 2) France and Spain
3) Could be a tough one between Slovenia, Lithuania, Turkey, Greece, Serbia...

[smaka]

Sorry for triple post, but I found some good pics from today's practice that I need to post.

http://siol.sdn.si/sn/img/13/246/635138239646355897_10_france_training_28807_130903 _uu.jpg

http://siol.sdn.si/sn/img/13/246/635138239500736489_05_france_training_28777_130903 _uu.jpg

http://siol.sdn.si/sn/img/13/246/635138239740258541_13_france_training_28825_130903 _uu.jpg


Tomorrow both Italy (vs. Russia) and France (vs. Germany) play at the same time, 9pm in Europe, 3pm et, if I calculated correctly. Links will be available on the site I mentioned in a previous post.

[jyra]

Richards didn't make the GB squad.

He actually quit the British national team a year ago and decided to play for Jamaica. Strangely enough I don't think that he has played a single game for them yet since then. He is definitely missing from the FIBA Americas tournament roster and wasn't with the team during their preparation.

I wouldn't count out Macedonia as a darkhouse medal contender. Opposing teams will probably be better prepared for them after their strong showing the last time so they won't be able to sneak up on anyone but if McCalleb is on top his game they could get in the semi finals again. They beat Greece and played Spain close in friendly games.
I am really looking forward to that juicy France-Spain finals matchup though.

[romain.star]

Anyone wants to guess the top 3 teams?

My wish:
1) Slovenia
2) France
3) Lithuania

Reality
1 & 2) France and Spain
3) Could be a tough one between Slovenia, Lithuania, Turkey, Greece, Serbia...

I see:
1) Spain
2) France
3) Greece
Than, we have Slovenia, Lithuania and Turkey

[Bruno]

And a prospect, Sanikidze is there with Georgia. Hungary didn't make it so Hanga isn't there. Richards didn't make the GB squad. Latvia made it, but Bertrans is injured, and the story is the same with Livio Jean-Charles and France (and both of them are young to make the senior national squad anyways).

You can add Javtokas with Lithuania. Lorbek won't play for Slovenia because of a knee surgery. Bertans, despite his age, would have definitively played for Latvia and be a key piece for them without his injury.

[ace3g]

Hedo is someone else to watch.

[pad300]

You can add Javtokas with Lithuania. Lorbek won't play for Slovenia because of a knee surgery. Bertans, despite his age, would have definitively played for Latvia and be a key piece for them without his injury.

I did know about Javtokas with Lithuania and how Lorbek did not make it, I just figure that neither of them will ever figure in the Spurs future... They are too old. I think that this offseason is pretty much Sanikidze's last shot too.

[smaka]

Janis Berzins from Latvia is very interesting prospect too. I watched him play in U20 European championship this year (Latvia won silver) and he is a real talent with great athleticism, rebounding ability etc. 20 years old, 6ft 8. Interesting player with a lot of potential.

[velik_m]

France looks good, Spain should be there, Italy could be a nice surprise, after that all the usual suspects (Russia, Greece, ex-Yu, Lithuania). I think Slovenia will not make top 8, i think we will have enough troubles even advancing to the next round...

My prediction: 1. France, 2. Spain, 3. Russia

[smaka]

Russia won't be nearly as good as you predict, imo. They play without Khryapa, Vorontsevich, AK47, Kaun...

[velik_m]

Do they sell a live internet stream for the games? I don't see anything on the site.


EuroBasket 2013 will reach a bigger audience than ever before, with FIBA announcing a record-breaking distribution for the event throughout Europe and the rest of the world.

A strong group of broadcast partners will provide FIBA Europe's flagship event with quantity and quality coverage across 167 countries around the globe.

Long-standing and valued FIBA partners, such as Canal+ in France, RAI in Italy, NTV in Turkey, RTR in Russia and Viasat in the Baltic region, will continue to give extensive space in their schedules for EuroBasket 2013.

New FIBA partners include prestigious broadcasters such as Mediaset in Spain, Antenna and OTE in Greece, Polsat in Poland, BT Sport in the UK and the combination of ARD and Spox in Germany.

Coverage is now virtually complete across Europe with the addition of some European countries, through partners such as Sport1 (Netherlands) and RTS (Switzerland).

Outside of Europe, there is extensive coverage across Asia (including CCTV in China, Fuji TV in Japan, Solar in the Philippines, Starhub in Singapore), the Americas (including ESPN, Direct TV, Fox Sports) and Africa (including Al Jazeera, SuperSport, Sport+).

Last but not least, all games will also be available on the LiveBasketball.TV digital platform.

It is predicted that the gold medal game will result in a record television audience for a EuroBasket final.

For a full list of broadcast partners please click here.

http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_VXcngBNiHZckDj9bjrJbG0.articleMode_on.html

[biziofromdowntown]

1) Spain
2) France
3) Lithuania
4) Greece

[Raven]

imho russia doesn't stand a chance, but they will play with shved, karasev, monia and ponkrashov so they should at least be interesting to watch. turkey's frontcourt is great, but i don't know anybody of their guards, greece should win the group imho.

[jyra]

Strong first half for Sanikdze against Poland, 11 pts on 4/5 shooting and 3 rebs. Meanwhile Hedo is stinking it up going scoreless (0/3) midway through the second quarter.

Really good a performance by Sankidze in the second half too, finishing with 23 pts and 6 rebounds. He really showed his whole offensive repertoire: Driving to the basket against big men/going into the post against guards, spotting up for 3s and finishing on the fast break.

Aaand Hedo just bricked away Turkey's chance to beat Finland.

[velik_m]

Final Results
Georgia-Poland 84-67
13 V. Sanikidze 23pts 6rebs

Latvia-Bosnia 86-75

[smaka]

Finland defeats Turkey 61:55, Isreael and GB are playing in overtime.

[velik_m]

I'm ready for the start. The beard is off!

[velik_m]

Finland defeats Turkey 61:55, Isreael and GB are playing in overtime.

First upset of the championship

[smaka]

Israel was defeated by Great Britain, 61-56.

So far I think all games were won by the underdogs, according to betting pages. Interesting.

[velik_m]

Our team sucks, our coach suck, our players suck... - i just want the gold - nothing less will do! :ihit

[velik_m]

Israel was defeated by Great Britain, 61-56.

So far I think all games were won by the underdogs, according to betting pages. Interesting.

Weird, i would bet on Georgia and Latvia, the rest are an upset imo

[mountainballer]

wow. RC! sign Sanikidze!

[smaka]

Weird, i would bet on Georgia and Latvia, the rest are an upset imo

I bet on Georgia, 2,75. :)

[smaka]

Do it, RC! :hat

http://img.ctrlv.in/img/522747dd757b5.jpg

[velik_m]

I bet on Georgia, 2,75. :)

2,75? Must have been a polish betting site.

[smaka]

2,75? Must have been a polish betting site.


bwin

[Texas_Ranger]

lol Turkey

[mountainballer]

lol Turkey
their 3 NBA players (Asik, Ilyasova and Hedo) with desaster performances....

[ace3g]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BA06FDC98-65CE-4E0C-AAC7-3D70D04F3D6F%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BDE33F55E-F988-43B4-86A4-B9B45F7B9317%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B02791A8E-4076-424A-95F4-43833A45D492%7Dflexible.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aMbcmSbOK8nV/x1400.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cSjbaacHc1GK/1400x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05Go1CN5lMcn8/1400x.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAVKbRXNfc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysjtsnKzmTI

[raybies]

He's 27?

[Chinook]

Either he lied about his age, or he's seen some real tough years.

[xmas1997]

He's 27?


More like 37.

[ace3g]

Italy vs Russia: http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23790&lng=en

France vs Germany: http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23788&lng=en

[jyra]

Legal and high quality stream with German commentary for France - Germany: http://www.spox.com/de/sport/mehrsport/basketball/em2013/live-stream/04-sep/frankreich-deutschland-vorrunde-gruppe-a-frank-buschmann.html

[velik_m]

Slovenia - Czech Rep. 21-19 after 1st qtr

[velik_m]

Our play has not improved one bit from Lithuania. Only this time we have a harder draw. We're so fucked...

[velik_m]

After 1st half
Slovenia - Czech Republic 36-32
Serbia - Lithuania 33 - 27
Italy - Russia 42 - 29

[jyra]

Well if Germany can keep shooting 75% from three they are in good shape, up 4 against France at the half. I'm really surprised that Boris has been almost invisible considering that he should be able to overpower Benzing in the post easily.

[ace3g]

Statistics

2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game

2/4
50,0%
2/4
50,0%
1/1
100,0%
0
(0/0)
2
1
11



Belinelli's first half stats

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I guess basketball refs are terrible everywhere

[velik_m]

Not one bit :pctoss

Two people moving, the rest just standing there and watching them...

[Texas_Ranger]

our team play looks pathetic.

[Bruno]

lol France

[Texas_Ranger]

Running like idiots, can't make free throws and can't play defense. Be happy if we make it out of the first round.

[jyra]

Holy shit, epic win for Germany. :worthy:

[velik_m]

Wow, we barely beat the crappiest team in our group, tomorrow we play the best team in our group. I have a feeling, we will soon see the real worth of our team :depressed

[SpursSerb]

Great performance by Serbia.

LOL France!

[velik_m]

Holy shit, epic win for Germany. :worthy:

Congrats :tu

[Bruno]

FNT coach is so bad it isn't even funny. The worst might be that he is maybe one of the best french coach.

People in the basketball federation should have admitted a long time ago how bad french coaching is and went with a good foreign coach.

[Bruno]

our team play looks pathetic.

It's the Maljkovic touch. He should have retired a decade ago.

[Bruno]

Holy shit, epic win for Germany. :worthy:

Yep, great win. Congrats.

[velik_m]

FNT coach is so bad it isn't even funny. The worst might be that he is maybe one of the best french coach.

People in the basketball federation should have admitted a long time ago how bad french coaching is and went with a good foreign coach.

That's what we used to say, and then our basketball federation went out and got Maljkovič. :bang

Be careful what you wish for...

[SpursSerb]

It's the Maljkovic touch. He should have retired a decade ago.

Yeap he's done.Lives in the past.

[temujin]

Beli with a very good game, except for the final 3': 3 missed FTs and one TO. Almost got Russia back in the game from garbage time.

[mountainballer]

He's 27?

no, born 1927. pretty good shape though.

[Bruno]

That's what we used to say, and then our basketball federation went out and got Maljkovič. :bang

Be careful what you wish for...

Well, I can see french federation going after him if Slovenia waives him after a disappointing Euro. Maljkovic has a great status in France because he was the coach of the only french team that ever won an Euroleague. The issue was that it was in 1993.

Few years ago Ettore Messina was ready to coach the NT. I still can't believe they didn't give him the job. He would have cost a lot of money but I'm' sure they could have paid him.

[Bruno]

I have some serious doubts around Sanikidze true age.

When Shermadini, another Georgian player, was in the draft, a lot of scouts/teams thought he was 3 years older than what his papers said. Even if it's unfair and even if it isn't hasn't been proven that Shermadini was 3 years older, this story throw a suspicion about the age of the Georgian prospects. Why if people there have started to fake players age, would have they did it only for one player?

[SpursSerb]

Well the same doubts were about Ilyasova and Kanter.

[Bruno]

And Sanikidze being 27 or 30 doesn't really change whether or not Spurs should sign him.

[SpursSerb]

I have some serious doubts around Sanikidze true age.

Why if people there have started to fake players age, would have they did it only for one player?

Probably considered him the biggest talent? Same for Turks with Ilyasova and Kanter. Also Chinese with Jianlian.

[lefty]

lol TP choking again

[Brazil]

:lol France

[smaka]

FNT coach is so bad it isn't even funny. The worst might be that he is maybe one of the best french coach.

People in the basketball federation should have admitted a long time ago how bad french coaching is and went with a good foreign coach.

Wanna trade with Maljkovic? :lol It can't be worse, tbh.
Slovenia is playing like shit, without any idea on the offense, only shooting those goddamn threes, and only makes 5 out of 24 iirc. Psychological preparation? Our staff probably never heard of it. Choking from free throws, winning by 2 against Chech Republic, whose biggest star is Vesely, garbage time player in the nba.

Slovenia = f:lolcked if we keep playing like this (which I don't doubt... 2011 all over again)

Lol France. Lol Turkey. Lol Israel. Lol Russia.

But seriously - did France really play that bad or what else happened?

[Frenchie]

France played without intensity. Defensively, it was just horrible. But we have to give credit to Germans who scored a lot of big buckets down the stretch.
Bruno You think Vincent Collet is that bad ? He's not very charismatic but he has a nice playbook. And if he's waived, I wouldn't be surprised if Jacques Monclar comes from anywhere to take that spot.

[Scrub]

What do you guys think of Nedovic? He can ball, tbh. I wonder how much playing time he'll get behind Curry next season. He's not worse than Toney Douglas, imo.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04_8kbfEAs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-CuvgGVDk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtTS-g4xBc

[Bruno]

Bruno You think Vincent Collet is that bad ? He's not very charismatic but he has a nice playbook. And if he's waived, I wouldn't be surprised if Jacques Monclar comes from anywhere to take that spot.

I think Collet is a good coach on a basketball level but, like for other french coaches, it's really hard for him to lead the team. Players are all year year, in Europe or in the NBA, playing at a way higher level than the level where the coach is coaching and that's an issue. Collet just hasn't the status to scream on a player like Batum when he is screwing it up. FNT needs a coach that draws some respects.

Monclar was close of being FNT GM few years ago but I don't see him being a candidate to be a coach while he hasn't coach for a lot of years. He is also on a big project which will be to have a top Euroleague team in Paris with QSI. I wouldn't be also surprised if the ultimate goal of that is to bring a NBA franchise in Paris. Bercy should be fully renovated in 2015.

[velik_m]

I have some serious doubts around Sanikidze true age.

When Shermadini, another Georgian player, was in the draft, a lot of scouts/teams thought he was 3 years older than what his papers said. Even if it's unfair and even if it isn't hasn't been proven that Shermadini was 3 years older, this story throw a suspicion about the age of the Georgian prospects. Why if people there have started to fake players age, would have they did it only for one player?

Well anything is possible, but i doubt it. Some people just look older than they are, i mean Robben looked like 35 when he was 21...

[ata]

Well, I can see french federation going after him if Slovenia waives him after a disappointing Euro. Maljkovic has a great status in France because he was the coach of the only french team that ever won an Euroleague. The issue was that it was in 1993.

Few years ago Ettore Messina was ready to coach the NT. I still can't believe they didn't give him the job. He would have cost a lot of money but I'm' sure they could have paid him.

We trade Malkovic for a bag of dog shit and two used condoms.

Didn't know about Messina. Similar story as in Slovenia somewhere between 2003-2005; Tanjevic offer himself to run Slovenian NT (much stronger than), however he suposed to be "to expensive".
Now we have even more expensive Maljkovic with the contract we can't brake (unless we pay all) - who ever signed that contract should be prosecuted.

[smaka]

We trade Malkovic for a bag of dog shit and two used condoms.

Didn't know about Messina. Similar story as in Slovenia somewhere between 2003-2005; Tanjevic offer himself to run Slovenian NT (much stronger than), however he suposed to be "to expensive".
Now we have even more expensive Maljkovic with the contract we can't brake (unless we pay all) - who ever signed that contract should be prosecuted.


Ironically, Slovenian basketball federation said goodbye to Zdovc, who led team to 4th place in 2009 (we'd probably get a medal if Dragic wasn't injured), was successful and most importantly, he was cheap and we didn't pay him a couple of 100k € just to lead our team.

[Texas_Ranger]

Slovenian basketball federation is a bunch of idiots. We should know that by now.

[ace3g]

Georgia vs Croatia

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23793&lng=en

[smaka]

Sanikidze with a big 3 for Georgia to take 1 point lead against Croatia. 22 seconds left.

[ace3g]

Sanikidze with a big 3 for Georgia to take 1 point lead against Croatia. 22 seconds left.

Yeah, he has really stepped up in the 4th after a slow start.

[smaka]

Croatia won 77:76. It was a wild game, both teams hit some big shots in the last quarter.

[velik_m]

Finland - Sweden 81-60
Ukraine - Israel 74-67
Montenegro - Latvia 72-73

[velik_m]

Sanikidze, V. 33mins 15pts fg: 6/13 (46,2) 2pts: 4/8 (50,0) 3pts: 2/5 (40,0) ft: 1/4 (25,0) 7rebs

[ace3g]

Italy vs Turkey: http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23799&lng=en

Poland vs Czech Republic: http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23798&lng=en

[smaka]

If anyone wants to watch Italy - Tureky for free: http://0eb.net/playerallr.php?id=582472

Belinelli with 7p 2r 1a in 1st Q.

[Texas_Ranger]

damn, Serbia is destroying Bosnia.

and wtf is with Germany?

[smaka]

damn, Serbia is destroying Bosnia.

and wtf is with Germany?


3's are not falling. Germany is that kind of a team... Live by the 3, die by the 3.

[ace3g]

Hopefully this name will have meaning when he plays for the Spurs:

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Marco Clutchinelli: second consecutive buzzer for the new Spurs. Italy leads 44-34 vs Turkey at the halftime

First half stats:



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
3/5
60,0%
1/2
50,0%
5/5
100,0%
2
(0/2)
1
1
14

[smaka]

^Good one, haha. I just wanted to say that Belinelli hit buzzer beaters at the end of both quarters. Finished halftime with 14 points.

[turkish spurs fan]

bellinelli plays so nice. go on bro

[Texas_Ranger]

good to see Marco playing well. And this Italy squad looks better than their team with Bargnani and Gallinari.

[turkish spurs fan]

FORZA ITALY!

[velik_m]

3's are not falling. Germany is that kind of a team... Live by the 3, die by the 3.

Like Slovenia, only we never live by the 3...

[turkish spurs fan]

Spain or greece will be champion. if spain had an another reliable big man with marc gasol i would say spain sure but greece has chance againts spain.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WPSX0gW6TE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yK5L9Io_8

[velik_m]

Serbia looks real good

[Texas_Ranger]

oh fuck you Germany. They fucked my betting list. Now they'll probably win by 50 in overtime.

[Vash StampedE]

WTH France?

[spurs10]

Thanks smaka and Bruno for the tips. What time does France play central US time? Also smaka, will that same link you posted for Italy work for France?

[temujin]

Beli with another good game.

Turkey was just awful, probably the worst Tanjevic team I have ever seen play.

[ace3g]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B4F810EC3-3F5E-454C-89ED-634AD3F3B26F%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BDE6AB573-0A5D-4201-BFC3-62F590CAEFE5%7Dflexible.jpg

[jyra]

Expected letdown for Germany after that emotional win yesterday. Pleiss had the easiest of putbacks that would have forced a second overtime but somehow that 7-1 guy could't finish it. Belgium also fouled up 2 at the end of the game and it actually worked out for them.

[Vash StampedE]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B4F810EC3-3F5E-454C-89ED-634AD3F3B26F%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BDE6AB573-0A5D-4201-BFC3-62F590CAEFE5%7Dflexible.jpg
LOL he looks a lot like Ginobili in the first pic

[Bruno]

What time does France play central US time?

2 pm, so in about an hour.

[Vash StampedE]

That is, when Manu's hair isn't yet fading.

[Bruno]

23/14 for Vesely against Poland.

[velik_m]

So, Belgium > Germany > France :lol

[mudyez]

So, Belgium > Germany > France :lol

LOL OKC drafting Tibor "Point Blank" Pleiß

[dylankerouac]

Link for France game, like others have said starts at 2 p.m. central, so just a few more minutes until tipoff. http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23803&lng=en

I would rather watch the game if anyone has a link to a live stream.

[Texas_Ranger]

amazing lineup by slovenia

[SpursRock20]

Parker looks quick :tu

[Texas_Ranger]

Slovenian team is made of players that just can't shoot. We ain't getting a medal with that kind of bricking.

[velik_m]

God damn it we suck

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGxayI0wUQ

[Texas_Ranger]

it's good to see Goran back in his Olimpija shooting form. He's almost 10M a year worth, wtf is wrong with him!

[velik_m]

If we had a decent playmaker, we might be actually kind of watchable...

[velik_m]

Spain 33 - Slovenia 25 :(

[spurs10]

2 pm, so in about an hour.Thanks! The only streams I've found at smaka suggestion, are at ishunter.net. They are asking for credit card information which I am wary of if it's free.

[Texas_Ranger]

if fat Gasol can play all minutes then why the fuck can't Dragic play all the time... Meh I don't even know if I want to watch him all the time cause he sucks, but Nachbar playing like 10 minutes is fucking pathetic. And congrats to Božo for still probably not knowing our best lineups and playing all 12 guys in the first half. This are not fucking friendly games.

[Bruno]

Thanks! The only streams I've found at smaka suggestion, are at ishunter.net. They are asking for credit card information which I am wary of if it's free.

:)

[spurs10]

:) Wow! Merci!!

[dylankerouac]

It's so much work to watch any of these games. Stupid ads everywhere.

[dylankerouac]

:)

Thanks Bruno, it's in english too!

[DesignatedT]

Parker playing well.

[Texas_Ranger]

Vidmar lost his teeth.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

ESPN3 is also streaming all the games

[Bruno]

And you should bookmark the link I've given since I will delete it shortly to avoid creating issue to ST.

[DesignatedT]

De Colo b2b threes.

[Texas_Ranger]

lol pathetic refs....

[velik_m]

What is Blažič doing in the starting lineup, no playing, no on the team, no playing basketball?

[velik_m]

Slovenia leads 52-51 after 3rd qtr

[velik_m]

Vidmar testing the hoops in Celje...

[velik_m]

Fuck the refs... we have to hit the open shots.

[dylankerouac]

Spain down to the wire, down by five with 50 secs to go.

[dylankerouac]

Make that 7.

[velik_m]

Hell yes! This feels great!

Spain outside Gasol and Calderon was really poor today.

[Texas_Ranger]

good job guys. But we are known for this 1 round wins. Lets hope this year is different.

[velik_m]

First great win under Maljkovič, 'bout fucking time...

[turkish spurs fan]

good job slovenia. goran fucking dragics

[SpursSerb]

Kdor ne skace ni slovenc,hej,hej,hej!

[Texas_Ranger]

big thumbs up for Edo Muric and Zoran Dragic.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOZvNiRtWXU

[benefactor]

Beli will shit on his haters.

[ace3g]

Beli will shit on his haters.

I think the best advantage of him over Neal is that Belinelli isn't looking to score 20 points every night.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJU3w6HdWP0

[smaka]

Fuck yeeeeeeeeeeeah! Great win, great atmosphere, I'm amazed! Dragon, his younger brother, everyone stepped up! Vidmar even lost his teeth in the battle with Gasol.

[sendman]

Ata, smaka and Texas_ranger....
Maljković says............






FUCK YOU!

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXZO8Q4-Ui4

[ploto]

Wow! Big win for Slovenia!!

[xmas1997]

Thank you, Bruno!

[racm]

I think the best advantage of him over Neal is that Belinelli isn't looking to score 20 points every night.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJU3w6HdWP0

And that he won't rely on his jumper too much. He drove into the paint for that assist.

[velik_m]

Latvia - Lithuania could be interesting today...

[mountainballer]

Beli will shit on his haters.

he will. and I said some weeks ago that I wouldn't be surprised, if he even becomes the starter at the 2 during the season. (this would also solve the back up SF question, b/c DG would move to this role.)
if Kawhi gets a more important role on offense, a good ball handler, shooter and passer like Beli might be the better compliment to support Kawhi's offense game than Green could be. and Kawhi will compensate the weak board production from Beli.

[ace3g]

France vs Israel is about tip off
http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23808&lng=en

[velik_m]

lol Germany

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQsTTLQkFY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwW2hrIDIvs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS1Ebw4Lkw

[Bruno]

Germany losing games is nice for France because results against teams that are eliminated are erased for the second round.

[Bruno]

3RmlGTMN0nc

[ace3g]

3RmlGTMN0nc

I think it is time to bring him in to training camp; he has the skill set to play back up SF and some small ball PF (has similar build to AK47). Has the ability to hit the 3 ball, can rebound, and play some defense...what else do we need from the back up 3? And I've noticed he is one of the go to players for Georgia in late game situations, plus he isn't afraid to shoot/make big shots. He is one those players that can fill the stat sheet (I like those type of players). Plus whatever his real age is, he still has athleticism.

[Bruno]

I think it is time to bring him in to training camp; he has the skill set to play back up SF and some small ball PF (has similar build to AK47).

It will take Spurs offering him a guaranteed contract to have Sanikdize leaving on the table the €400K he has left on his contract with Siena. And I really don't find he has similar build to Kirilenko. He should be about 30 lbs lighter than him.

[pad300]

It will take Spurs offering him a guaranteed contract to have Sanikdize leaving on the table the €400K he has left on his contract with Siena. And I really don't find he has similar build to Kirilenko. He should be about 30 lbs lighter than him.
If we get the guy who shows up for the Georgian National team - the guy who says "It doesn't matter Win or lose, we have to fight every game", I'd be willing to give that guy a guaranteed vet min - he brings everything he's got. Also, isn't he going to be dumped (somehow) by Sienna? There is something in the Sanikidze thinktank thread, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124732&page=7.

[smaka]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1175352_157214184477008_1027669500_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1185872_157214201143673_899366514_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1231617_157214251143668_602204869_n.jpg


Today's schedule that may interest Spurs fans:

11.45am et Italy vs Finland.
3pm et Slovenia vs. Georgia

[ata]

Ata, smaka and Texas_ranger....
Maljković says............






FUCK YOU!

O rly?
I am first to admit - Maljković lead the team against Spain really good, excelent actually; however - this was his first(!) real match (forget frendly matches) to do so. I still remember Litva, I still remember game against Czech.
So after a plenty of horrific choached games you are sold after one great win?
And congrats, you are one really patient guy, have to wait for two years to be able to write something like above :loser

And yes, I still remember his qoutes regarding both Bečirović and Divac...

[velik_m]

Spain raped the Czechs 60-39, Russia is done for.

[Bruno]

Also, isn't he going to be dumped (somehow) by Sienna?

They don't want him back but he has a guaranteed contract so they have to pay him.

[velik_m]

Sweden - Russia 81-62

[ata]

WTF
LOL Russia

[smaka]

So Russia won't even qualify to 2nd round. Wow.

[ace3g]

Link to Italy vs Finland game

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23812&lng=en

[jyra]

Rough start for Belinelli, 0-5 from the field. He had to create a lot for himself though, Italy really lacks a point guard who can make plays for others.

Not a good first half for him, 0-8 and just 2pts off FTs. He has been mostly used as a point guard to run high pick and rolls pretty much every other time down the floor. But there's not much of a roll threat so Finland could really focus their attention on Belinelli there. Itay should run him off screens more instead of just giving him the ball at the top of the key and asking him to create, it's just too predictable.

[ata]

BTW: I was watching Spain-Czech; until 4Q it was pretty even; if Czech would have two more decent player, it would be close. Spain really seems to be vulnerable

[jyra]

Italy makes a big run with Belinelli on the bench and a smaller, quicker lineup on the floor. Much better ball and player movement than before. The defensive intensity also picked up. Seems like Finland just ran out of gas in the second half, just launching shots from the outside but hitting very few of them.

Next up Sanikidze against Slovenia, should be a fun one.

[polandprzem]

At least we put up a fight :)

[velik_m]

Tomorrow's game against Croatia will be a must win

[ace3g]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ewY1CmbJocXL/1400x.jpg

[ace3g]

Link to Georgia vs Slovenia game:

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23814&lng=en

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26bsYU9Mrss

[velik_m]

We suck against zone defense, a team with deeper squad than Georgia will crush us...

[velik_m]

At least we will get a lot of practice plaing against zone defense today.

[velik_m]

44-32 after 1st half, Slovenia with 66% from 3, that won't hold :/

[ata]

44-32 after 1st half, Slovenia with 66% from 3, that won't hold :/
Good call

[ata]

Horrific refereeing - I am glad it is our favour

[ace3g]

Sanikidze's stats



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
3/6
50.0%
2/5
40.0%
5/6
83.3%
13
(3/10)
1
2
17

[velik_m]

Lucky we got friendly refs tonight, we really suck on offense, no movement of players or ball :td

[ata]

Dobre vile
http://trgovina.mercator.si/wcsstore/Tehnika/images/products/a050/3838717763362_01_large.jpg

Thx refs

[velik_m]

My dream scenario now: Slovenia beats Croatia and Georgia beats Spain :P

[ata]

Spain can fall again...

[Bruno]

Didn't watch the game, how was Sanikdize?

[ace3g]

Didn't watch the game, how was Sanikdize?


Doesn't matter, we don't need another player with a receding hairline

- Skull-1

Schtick is getting fucking old

[Texas_Ranger]

almost died by the 3 this time. Lakovic is finished.

[smaka]

Lakovic is horrible, but there is no true PG to backup Dragic. The younger Dragic is a birght surprise for me so far with his big shots, even if he is not much of a shooter otherwise.





Lol Turkey

[jyra]

Didn't watch the game, how was Sanikdize?

He did a really great job on the boards as the stats show, repeatedly pulling down contested rebounds using his hops. His points came mostly in the first quarter where he scored 11 of his 17. He hit a spot up three, a nice little hook out of the P&R and drove against a closing out defender to earn FTs. I forgot the remaining ones but he always ran hard on the fast break and hit another big three late in the game to keep his team alive.
Defensively he didn't really stand out apart from his rebounding as Georgia was playing zone for long stretches but he looked active on his rotations.

Other observations:
- I like his ball handling ability. He can push the ball after coming down with the rebound to go coast to coast or drive by the close out. That has led to a lot of drawn fouls.
- He doesn't set good screens. When he screens, he rarely makes solid contact with the defender.

I would definitely not mind to see him with the Spurs but it doesn't seem like they will give out any guaranteed contracts this late in the offseason.

[Bruno]

Thanks for the report, jyra.

[Texas_Ranger]

Oh yea, Sanikdize could play for the Spurs.

[xmas1997]

Oh yea, Sanikdize could play for the Spurs.

I have never understood the Spurs reluctance to bring him over.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxuz80omYUE

[ace3g]

Determined another nick name for Sanikidze.....Mr. Fantastic, has the hair and the long arms/legs

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BDCBCD25E-D723-4E94-BAC4-001BDFB2A9CF%7Dflexible.jpg

[ace3g]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/UWmRgaaaw96PHsoQls1PiA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTE1MDg7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309071420516187334-p5.jpg

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NoJxqQk9N2Puu8LCUgCL5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTEyNzY7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309050842313271211-p5.jpg

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2EPlFFokwlEbYiVRxcEkEA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY2ODtweW9mZj0wO3E9OD U7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309071457538327508-p5.jpg

[Texas_Ranger]

In Poland basketball should be cancelled.

[jyra]

36 point game at the half? :wow

[jyra]

Lol, Germany just got eliminated by GB. This completey negates the great win against France which was obviously a fluke. Oh well, I never expected this team to go anywhere but losing to GB is truly dissapointing.

[velik_m]

Germany :huh, Macedonia also lost, Finnland keeping the door open for - Sweden :wtf?

[Texas_Ranger]

Group A is really, really bad.

[smaka]

Germany :huh, Macedonia also lost, Finnland keeping the door open for - Sweden :wtf?

Nope, Finland, Greece and Italy proceed from this group.

[ace3g]

France vs Ukraine:

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23821&lng=en

Georgia vs Czech Republic

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23822&lng=en

Italy vs Greece

http://live.fibaeurope.com/www/Game.aspx?acc=1&gameID=23823&lng=en

[velik_m]

Nope, Finland, Greece and Italy proceed from this group.

Russia led 65-61 13 seconds before the end, and fucked it up, Russia is such a fail on this championship. I knew they were missing some top players, but i actually thought this might work in their advantage.

[smaka]

Russia led 65-61 13 seconds before the end, and fucked it up, Russia is such a fail on this championship. I knew they were missing some top players, but i actually thought this might work in their advantage.

Even the guy on tv said Russia won, although the game was not even over. :lol

Lol Russia
Lol Turkey

[velik_m]

Greece looking really good

[smaka]

Belinelli again with a buzzer beater at the end of 2nd quarter. Has 7 points.

[velik_m]

Greece leads 38-36 at half

[smaka]

France having tough times against Ukraine. Tony and Diaw lead the team with 11 and 9.

[smaka]

Tony taking over in the 4th quarter. Hit some big buckets, France up 8, 3 minutes left.

[ace3g]

Good rebound game for Belinelli



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
3/5
60.0%
2/5
40.0%
7/7
100.0%
5
(0/5)
3
1
19


Still 2 min left in the game, Italy up 2

[velik_m]

Italy lacks a real playmaker, they just keep chucking weird of balance shots...

[velik_m]

Latvia not giving up against Serbia 69-63 with 4 minutes left

[turkish spurs fan]

marco paşa

[ace3g]

Tony Parker in 77-71 win



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
9/13
69.2%
2/5
40.0%
4/5
80.0%
2
(0/2)
2
2
28



Diaw



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
4/8
50.0%
1/3
33.3%
4/6
66.7%
3
(0/3)
1
5
15



Belinelli in 81-72 victory



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
5/7
71.4%
2/5
40.0%
7/7
100.0%
7
(0/7)
3
2
23

[velik_m]

Italy wins 81-72, they shot 42% from three

[Bruno]

Vesely 27/10 against Georgia

[smaka]

Tony always complains :lol

http://img.ctrlv.in/img/522cb52405a7f.jpg

[ace3g]

Sanikidze didn't have the best game



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
3/6
50.0%
1/7
14.3%
1/4
25.0%
5
(1/4)
1
2
10



Georgia lost 79-95

[ace3g]

Vesely 27/10 against Georgia

Unfortunately he can't shoot the 3 and/or FTs



Statistics
2P FG
3P FG
FT
REB (O/D)
AS
TO
Pts


Game
12/14
85.7%
0/0
0.0%
3/8
37.5%
10
(5/5)
1
0
27


Competition
6.7/12.0
55.6%
0.0/0.3
0.0%
2.3/4.3
53.8%
11.7
(5.0/6.7)
1.0
1.7
15.7

[ace3g]

Diaw alley oop ALERT at 1:00 mark



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojlwtHeunc4

[Bruno]

Unfortunately he can't shoot the 3 and/or FTs

Lack of a 3 point shot isn't that much an issue for a PF but he had to improve his FT shooting and be around 60% to avoid being the target of international fouls.

Even if you had to be careful mostly because this Eurobasket quality is quite low, Vesely being that good with Czech Republic strongly hint that his struggles in the NBA have a lot to do with Wizards being a joke of a team.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8KDt5mVO8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zf7yhFWD7I

[ace3g]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c1W72sc211VQ/x1400.jpg

[ata]

Unfortunately he can't shoot the 3 and/or FTs

Spurs material ;)

[ata]

Latvia not giving up against Serbia 69-63 with 4 minutes left

Latvia never gives up - at the end Serbia won; expiriences prevailed

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSco0JfznNY

[ata]

Lack of a 3 point shot isn't that much an issue for a PF but he had to improve his FT shooting and be around 60% to avoid being the target of international fouls.

Even if you had to be careful mostly because this Eurobasket quality is quite low, Vesely being that good with Czech Republic strongly hint that his struggles in the NBA have a lot to do with Wizards being a joke of a team.

Actually - Vesely doesn't even get any PT at Wizzards. Wierd if you ask me

[velik_m]

Our D sucks so far...

[spurs10]

ace3g Wanted to thank you for the clips and pictures. Greatly appreciated man!

[ace3g]

Very telling of how bad Hedo has been playing during Eurobasket, isn't even playing for Turkey today vs Sweden

[ace3g]

ace3g Wanted to thank you for the clips and pictures. Greatly appreciated man!

No problem

[xmas1997]

Yes, thank you for taking the time to do all this.

[velik_m]

More sucky defense from us, stupid fouls, no rebounds... no way we win if we get 70+pts

[temujin]

Actually - Vesely doesn't even get any PT at Wizzards. Wierd if you ask me

No: he doesn't carry a gun and plays no poker.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFQXiXOBGI

[Texas_Ranger]

Lakovič retire already.

[velik_m]

We're done for. Fuck our inability to play against zone. 2 fucking years and we still don't know hos to play. Fuck Maljkovič :pctoss

[Texas_Ranger]

Slovenian rotations are fucked up. LOL Medal with this kind of offense. No way.

[Texas_Ranger]

Hope everyone enjoyed the win against Spain, cause that was this teams highlight.

[velik_m]

Well, we really fucked up. This was essentially a second round game and we lost it. Fuck the refs too.

[SpursSerb]

Actually this isn't such a suprise,Croatia has better players.This is probably the worst Slovenian team in years.

[ace3g]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Atsf2hWrRHO6ESljtPLFdg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTEzMTA7cHlvZmY9MDtxPT g1O3c9OTYw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Basketball/201309081221445071502-p5.jpg

[temujin]

Fun game to watch.
Croatia is not that good but has balls, a coach and plays zone.
I am not sure who is coaching Slovenia but it's not that old gentleman on the bench.
The offense against the zone was less than pathetic.
They looked like they never expected it.

[Texas_Ranger]

To me it looks like Slovenia is still experimenting. Right now we should know who are the guys that play 25+ minutes and who are the role players, but no. LOL @ Blazic and Lakovic. Especially Lakovič who's always the best player of the opposing team.

Meeh, who cares, I already knew that if Slovenia gets a medal it'll be cause of the refs. Also i don't see us winning Greece and Italy. Even Finland can defeat this team. Just play zone and you'll win.

Once again fuck to all of the Slovenian players that didn't want to play for this country, cause if they did, Slovenia would have at least 1 medal.

[Texas_Ranger]

Ata, smaka and Texas_ranger....
Maljković says............






FUCK YOU!

I say go teach your team how to play against zone.

[TD 21]

Once again fuck to all of the Slovenian players that didn't want to play for this country, cause if they did, Slovenia would have at least 1 medal.

At least Slovenia's not Canada, aka the gold standard of players inexplicably not playing for their country. If it doesn't change, it'll be more costly in their case too, because they have the potential to become the second best team in the world.

[mountainballer]

Beli is good.
can't wait to see him in black.
people will no longer call this off season forgettable in Dezember.
steal.

[smaka]

We are fucked because we'll get 40 mins of zone defense every game from now on.