*****Official Government Shutdown Gamethread*****

[Winehole23]

Leavitt: "At this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the president's main priority."

[Blake]

Unless you're an ignorant and/or bigoted retard, there's no reason to defend this clown. I'd love to see someone here try. Anyone.

[Winehole23]

It's a vibe.

They like him and they like what he's doing -- but they know it sounds bad to cheer for overthrowing the USA.

[Spurs Homer]

i don't see how that one vote would change that, but it seems stupid. and the Epstein stuff was largely a right wing talking point from 2021-2024 and a nonzero part of why Trump won. That the Democrats and their elites were the ones covering up the Epstein files. At this point just release the files and relieve the stress like they did with Dobbs in 2022.

there are 4 -count em 4 GOP votes signed on to release ALL OF THE UNREDACTED EPSTEIN files.

213 DEMS- plus Grijalva = 214
4. GOP ( massey, MTG, Boebert, Mace)

total 218 needed…

have signed to the bill that would release all the files without redactions, without hiding shit, without with-holding videos,evidence etc…

4 GOP votes which trump is calling “hostile to the white house” and those 4 GOP are all currently being bribed millions to change their vote and to stop the release of the files by interested pedophiles- llike trump

200 plus GOP pedophile defenders not willing to release the files…

[Winehole23]

If Trump can impound appropriations at will and spend freely on his own, the republic is basically already defunct. Unless Congress or SCOTUS suddenly grow spines and try to check him, he's going to continue to trample the constitution and the people.

Reducing the American people to submission will be no easy task

[Winehole23]

The people are the country, too

[Winehole23]

(subtext: Republicans hoping an off-the-rails Trump will die soon, so they can start to stabilize the rapid erosion of popular support stimulated by his increasingly chaotic and destructive actions and words)

[Winehole23]

For myself, I want Trump to continue live and to drag Republicans down with him

[Winehole23]

here's the Republican health care plan


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:smmj6cow4m6wgtqgypsrhwbq/bafkreihiwnts2lf5uar457nwivopqfik3uoyz25rxnjqrw5lz gtluiovca@jpeg

[SnakeBoy]

Dems are debating whether to fold next week or wait until just after Nov. 1st according to Halperin

[ChumpDumper]

Newsmax.

[SnakeBoy]

Affordable Care Act

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[ChumpDumper]

Affordable Care Act

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So why do you want to make it even more expensive?

Explain Trump's health care plan.

[Winehole23]

So why do you want to make it even more expensive?

Explain Trump's health care plan.The ACA never addressed medical costs, it only mandated insurance coverage. So while it did initially slow the rate of growth of health care costs, it never reduced them

Mandating insurance didn't do the trick, but Trump's policy is to reduce public capacity and allow Americans to die en masse, uncovered and untreated

[Winehole23]

The man has had ten years to come up with a plan

Where the fuck is it?

[Winehole23]

if I had to guess, the House will try to sort it in time for Thanksgiving


U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy on Friday said he expects more flights to be delayed, with air traffic controllers set to miss their first paycheck as a federal government shutdown enters its 24th day.

Some 13,000 air traffic controllers and about 50,000 Transportation Security Administration officers must work without pay during the government shutdown (https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/trumps-shutdown-pay-plan-prioritizes-security-personnel-over-civilian-workers-2025-10-23/). Controllers will miss their first full paycheck on Tuesday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-warns-further-flight-delays-if-shutdown-persists-2025-10-24/

[SnakeBoy]

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"This is the kind of thing you USED to see before the left turned to mainstreaming pain and violence."

Sad but true

[Winehole23]

this is the accusation in a mirror I mentioned in another thread

[ChumpDumper]

1981448482306314334

"This is the kind of thing you USED to see before the left turned to mainstreaming pain and violence."

Sad but true

Why do you want health care to cost even more?

[BadMotorscooter]

Why do you want health care to cost even more?


why do you want healthcare for illegals?

[Blake]

why do you want healthcare for illegals?

Why do you want a felon for president?

[Winehole23]

why do you want healthcare for illegals?Doctors are duty bound to treat hurt and sick people regardless of immigration status

It's a moral thing, I'm sure you wouldn't understand

[ChumpDumper]

why do you want healthcare for illegals?

You fold.

Illegal aliens are not eligible for the programs you want to be cut for American citizens.

They do not apply for these programs.

They do not participate in these programs.

The only program they could benefit from is reimbursement for emergency care that goes to hospitals, the funding for which your party DID NOT CUT.

[Winehole23]

Renfield lookin mf




https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:oqr5mp25r7z3vfr3igeerxbw/bafkreihkrccrrva7qxd7iboyppub5ph6rsk45abwt3v5ar4z5 ijzmbzssa@jpeghttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/25/us/politics/mike-johnson-speaker-congress.html

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's long-overdue time to end the Schumer Shutdown.

[Blake]

It's long-overdue time to end the Schumer Shutdown.

^ Trump tard moron believes that

[ChumpDumper]

It's long-overdue time to end the Epstein Shutdown.

:tu

[BadMotorscooter]

^ Trump tard moron believes that

demotard with no facts as usual....

[ChumpDumper]

demotard with no facts as usual....

Republicans can end the shutdown whenever they want.

That's a fact.

[Blake]

demotard with no facts as usual....

It's late Saturday night, time for hemiscooter to punch in for his rambling shift

[ChumpDumper]

It's late Saturday night, time for hemiscooter to punch in for his rambling shift

Facts.

[BadMotorscooter]

It's late Saturday night, time for hemiscooter to punch in for his rambling shift

This is all you got, snowflake and your boyfriend Chump will come to your aid......even Whine Whore isnt even here tonight.....maybe she has finally realized how pathetic it is to be a democrat.....

[Winehole23]

(It was my dad's 75th birthday, we had a lovely time)

[Blake]

This is all you got, snowflake and your boyfriend Chump will come to your aid......even Whine Whore isnt even here tonight.....maybe she has finally realized how pathetic it is to be a democrat.....

.... ramble ramble...

[Millennial_Messiah]

Government shutdown to end this week.

[BadMotorscooter]

.... ramble ramble...


.....triggered, triggered.....

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgur.com/xBAw8HJ.png

[ChumpDumper]

Why should children go hungry to cover up the sexual abuse of children, snacks?

[Winehole23]

~40 million people will lose food assistance in November

unnecessarily, btw

funds can be legally released during the shutdown, but Republicans prefer that people starve

[Spurs Homer]

Can any cultist here name ...
just ONE major RED city that is doing really well as far as a really great economic success story so that all those crime ridden blue cities can emulate?

Just one please...

[Blake]

Can any cultist here name ...
just ONE major RED city that is doing really well as far as a really great economic success story so that all those crime ridden blue cities can emulate?

Just one please...

No they'll just screech that you're triggered and move along to the next thread to screech in.

[Spurs Homer]

No they'll just screech that you're triggered and move along to the next thread to screech in.

AI Overview









Defining the "best," "richest," and "least crime-ridden" Republican city is subjective and complicated, as no single city definitively meets all criteria
. Political leanings, wealth, and crime statistics exist on a spectrum and do not align perfectly.

Instead of a single "best" city, here are some prominent cities with notable conservative populations and strong performance in one or more of the areas you asked about.


Fort Worth, Texas



Political alignment: Has a reliably Republican mayor and a large conservative population.
Economy and wealth: Offers a robust job market, is generally considered affordable, and has no state income tax, though some sources note rising homeowners insurance costs. It is not among the nation's absolute richest cities, but it provides a strong financial environment.
Safety: While Fort Worth has typical urban crime concerns, it was listed among America's safest large cities in a 2025 SmartAsset study.



Mesa, Arizona



Political alignment: Identified as one of the most conservative large cities in the U.S. by a Pew Research Center (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/08/08/chart-of-the-week-the-most-liberal-and-conservative-big-cities/) analysis.
Safety: Was also mentioned as one of the safest cities in the country in a 2023 Quora discussion citing FBI data.
Economy and wealth: Home to a rapidly growing economy with a strong job market in the Phoenix metropolitan area.



Virginia Beach, Virginia



Political alignment: Consistently votes Republican and was ranked among the most conservative cities in a 2014 study cited by Pew Research.
Safety: Often cited for its low crime rate and was listed among America's safest cities in a 2025 SmartAsset study.
Economy and wealth: While not one of the richest cities, it offers a strong economy and has a lower-than-average violent crime rate.



Factors to consider



Subjectivity of "best": The definition of "best" depends on your individual priorities, whether they be job opportunities, affordability, or a specific cultural environment.
Defining "Republican city": Most U.S. cities, particularly larger ones, lean Democrat. The cities listed here are notable for their conservative leanings, but they are not monolithic and will still have a mix of political views. Some sources may identify a city based on the mayor's party affiliation, while others use voter data to identify the most conservative populations.
Correlation of wealth and crime: Generally, higher household income correlates with lower crime rates in cities, though other factors also influence crime. Studies consistently show that poverty is a key factor in crime rates, regardless of the city's political affiliation.
Suburban vs. urban: Large cities often lean left, while suburbs and rural areas tend to lean right. It is more common to find a Republican-leaning community in a wealthy, safe suburb than in a major urban core.






















lol


Even AI had a rough time...except for a couple of red shitholes....
wtf Ft. Fuckin Worth? hahahahahaha!

Let's not even get into how Blue cities large tax bases fund those red shitholes and would starve without california or new york to bail them out year after year, decade after decade...

[Winehole23]

~40 million people will lose food assistance in November

unnecessarily, btw

funds can be legally released during the shutdown, but Republicans prefer that people starveadjacent to this is that your usual Republican sadists like and enjoy that 40 million Americans will go short of food for Thanksgiving

[Winehole23]

~40 million people will lose food assistance in November

unnecessarily, btw

funds can be legally released during the shutdown, but Republicans prefer that people starveRepublicans continually pawning the people's pain to get concessions from the Dems is eventually going to recoil, it may be already happening

[Millennial_Messiah]

Can any cultist here name ...
just ONE major RED city that is doing really well as far as a really great economic success story so that all those crime ridden blue cities can emulate?

Just one please...
Yeah was just gonna say Fort Worth, Mesa, Colorado Springs, OKC, and heck Miami is trending that way...

Inglewood, Buena Park, Green Bay, Grand Rapids were once reliably red cities, but have turned bluer fairly recently....

[Spurs Homer]

Yeah was just gonna say Fort Worth, Mesa, Colorado Springs, OKC, and heck Miami is trending that way...

Inglewood, Buena Park, Green Bay, Grand Rapids were once reliably red cities, but have turned bluer fairly recently....

that it?

shitholes-

if all you got is shithole ft worth- you cultists should stfu about “democrat-run cities” because all the top cities in the usa support all the red cities and all the blue states fund the red states and put twice as much money into the federal piggy bank so that cult welfare queens can live off of the generosity and tech know how of blue states

[Millennial_Messiah]

that it?

shitholes-

if all you got is shithole ft worth- you cultists should stfu about “democrat-run cities” because all the top cities in the usa support all the red cities and all the blue states fund the red states and put twice as much money into the federal piggy bank so that cult welfare queens can live off of the generosity and tech know how of blue states
That's a myth and a lie.

[Winehole23]

He's right man

Blue states float red states

[Winehole23]

on the whole, the blue states are more prosperous and productive

[Winehole23]

so, y'all lost the culture war

you're poorer and less productive, and now you have all the political power

and now y'all think you're gonna win by making everyone poorer and less free?

:lol

[DarrinS]

so, y'all lost the culture war


Did we?

[Winehole23]

Did we?obviously you can't see it now, but yes

[Winehole23]

Are you cool with imposing social mores by political force and speech codes, DarrinS?

Does that sort with personal liberty of conscience for you?

[DarrinS]

obviously you can't see it now, but yes

All 3 branches controlled by GOP.

[Winehole23]

All 3 branches controlled by GOP.the country is the people too

political force isn't everything

[DarrinS]

I love watching blue haired dorks getting destroyed by ICE. Keep deporting

[DarrinS]

the country is the people too

political force isn't everything

The people have spoken

[Winehole23]

I love watching blue haired dorks getting destroyed by ICE. Keep deporting^^^ bootlicker fancy

[SnakeBoy]

so, y'all lost the culture war

you're poorer and less productive, and now you have all the political power

and now y'all think you're gonna win by making everyone poorer and less free?

:lol

We already won

There's no going back

[Winehole23]

The people have spokenyou're living in the past

they still speak

[Winehole23]

We already won

There's no going backthere's no going back to be sure, but all political majorities are transient

[DarrinS]

If you look at what's happening in the corporate world, the left definitely lost the culture war.

[ChumpDumper]

All 3 branches controlled by GOP.

So why can't you govern?

[ChumpDumper]

If you look at what's happening in the corporate world, the left definitely lost the culture war.

The whiny tech bros?

:lol weak

[DarrinS]

I'll never again take one of those corporate struggle sessions

[Winehole23]

If you look at what's happening in the corporate world, the left definitely lost the culture war.how do you measure that?

finger in the wind?


In fact, in this proxy season approximately 98% of the shares voted to maintain current corporate diversity, equity, and inclusion programs. 32 companies (listed in the appendix) including Disney, Costco, Visa, Apple, Deere, Boeing, Goldman Sachs, Levi’s, AMEX, Coca-Cola, Berkshire Hathaway, Bristol Myers, and Gilead Science saw near-unanimous votes, averaging a mere 2% shareholder vote supporting these resolutions, sending a clear message to the boards that shareholders support the business case for non-discrimination in employment and a diverse workforce. [2] (https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/17/corporate-support-for-dei-continues-among-investors-and-companies/#2)

Many of these companies under attack remained publicly committed to their longstanding DEI programs. Corporations like Costco, JPMorganChase, Delta Air Lines, American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, and Apple continue to view diversity as a cornerstone of their workforce strategies, refusing to back down despite mounting pressure from conservatives and the White House.https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/17/corporate-support-for-dei-continues-among-investors-and-companies/

[DarrinS]

The whiny tech bros?

:lol weak

You are weak. Keep living here

[Winehole23]

I'll never again take one of those corporate struggle sessionspersonal decision

do you wish to universalize it?

[Spurs Homer]

That's a myth and a lie.

Just go back and look at your “prosperous red major cities” like ft worth, colorado springs lol

Then think of the big - really big cities

ny, l.a., chicago, seattle, sf, etc…

all the wealth is in those metro areas and this is why Fox propaganda has to resort to stories about san fran being a run down city and chicago being a war zone…

because you cultists will forget about how shitty your lives are and you free-base into your veins that Fox propaganda racist shit and spend your days angry and fearful and obsessed with boys in girls restrooms,illegal “aliens” , trans issues , brown people and black people getting help but never questioning the trillions the billionaires steal by not paying taxes…

sure - its ok that elon musk is a welfare queen who got rich with our tax dollar funded govt handouts in the billions…
but you rail at a farm worker getting emergency care due to his working 70-80:hrs per week for peanuts…

but - dems are the enemy…not the billionaires who are screwing you every single day every year - decade upon decade…

[DarrinS]

personal decision

do you wish to universalize it?

I just don't give a shit. My woke company is post-Floyd syndrome and that makes me happy.

[Winehole23]

good on you, man

whatever that means

[Blake]

I love watching blue haired dorks getting destroyed by ICE. Keep deporting

Of course you do, you're a racist dick. But that's America these days.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Of course you do, you're a racist dick. But that's America these days.

:lmao

You dumbass.

Blue haired dorks are like >95% white. Cry harder.

[ChumpDumper]

I just don't give a shit. My woke company is post-Floyd syndrome and that makes me happy.

So do you get to say the N word and sexually harass women?

Please answer.

[Blake]

:lmao

You dumbass.

Blue haired dorks are like >95% white. Cry harder.

Dumbass, they aren't deporting >95% of the blue hairs. Read better.

[Blake]

So do you get to say the N word and sexually harass women?

Please answer.

Aww and Darrin is gonna quit right when his dream work environment was supposedly coming true

[Winehole23]

government's shut down, but we have money for this

https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/5472x3648+0+0/resize/1100/quality/50/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff1%2F2e%2F631c5efa4a 27b51b2bc84c7ff525%2Fap25217510371940.jpg


A statue of the Confederate general Albert Pike that was pulled down and set ablaze in Washington, D.C. in June 2020 during the Black Lives Matter movement has been renovated and reinstalled in Judiciary Square. The reinstallation on Saturday was a follow-through of an earlier National Park Service announcement (https://www.npr.org/2025/08/05/nx-s1-5493106/confederate-statue-albert-pike-reinstall) that the federal government intended to restore the statue, which it says had been damaged in "riots."


The monument to Pike was first erected in 1901, but has long been a contentious issue within the nation's capital.


The Pike statue is the only monument within Washington, D.C. to honor a Confederate general – but it does not mention his military history. Pike, who was a Freemason and was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson, has also been identified by historians as possibly (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/why-is-confederate-general-albert-pike-memorialized-at-judiciary-square/2016/10/22/9d69f26c-96ed-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html) having been involved with the development of the Ku Klux Klan in the period after the Civil War.


The plaque at the base of the statue, which was originally mounted by the Freemasons, calls Pike an "author, poet, scholar, soldier, jurist, orator, philanthropist and philosopher."
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/27/nx-s1-5587824/confederate-statue-albert-pike-trump

[Winehole23]

It sounds crazy to say that Republicans are making children go hungry to protect pedophiles, but it’s actually a reasonable interpretation of the situation.https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-hunger-games-begin

[SnakeBoy]

1983197422080930022

[ChumpDumper]

1983197422080930022
So Democrats actually control the entire government and Trump.

Nice.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, she makes several good points....

1983203291321315825

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1983203291321315825

[ChumpDumper]

This too....

1983236829701681559

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1983236829701681559

[Winehole23]

Shutdown RIFs fail at inception

Trump's big mouth didn't help


A federal judge in San Francisco on Tuesday indefinitely barred the Trump administration from firing federal employees during the government shutdown, saying that labor unions were likely to prevail on their claims that the cuts were arbitrary and politically motivated.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston granted a preliminary injunction that bars the firings while a lawsuit challenging them plays out. She had previously issued a temporary restraining order against the job cuts that was set to expire Wednesday.

Illston, who was nominated by Democratic President Bill Clinton, has said she believes the evidence will ultimately show the mass firings were illegal and in excess of authority.
https://www.koat.com/article/judge-blocks-trump-federal-employee-firings-shutdown/69181436

[Winehole23]

pawning the people's misery for political clout is a dangerous tactic if the people can see you doing it

24 states are suing Trump for illegally withholding SNAP



On Friday, the administration issued a memo (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/24/snap-food-aid-shutdown-usda-00622690) claiming it can’t tap a contingency fund that currently has about $5 billion in it for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, also known as food stamps, because it’s reserved for sudden emergencies like natural disasters.

The website (https://www.usda.gov/) for the Department of Agriculture also now has a large banner at the top declaring that SNAP has “run dry” and “there will be no benefits issued November 01.” The message blamed Senate Democrats for “hold[ing] out for healthcare for illegal aliens and gender mutilation procedures,” attempting to blame immigrants and trans people for the ongoing shutdown.

But the reality is that not only is the contingency fund meant to be used in this exact fashion, it’s illegal for the Trump administration to refuse to do so. The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008, which reauthorized the food stamp program and changed its name to SNAP, states (https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10331/pdf/COMPS-10331.pdf)clearly that benefits “shall be furnished to all eligible households who make application for such participation.” And the contingency fund would allow those benefits to be delivered as required. Instead, the administration is rejecting its authority, holding hungry families hostage to an ongoing political fight over government spending.

As David A. Super, professor of law and economics at Georgetown University, put it, “There are no ifs, ands, or ors there.” Anyone who is eligible and applies must be paid benefits. “I don’t know how Congress could have written it more clearly,” Super said.
https://prospect.org/2025/10/29/trump-illegally-withholding-food-from-needy-families-snap/

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nztbvvo2gl4227zuxjf7gog3/bafkreic52iaafox7xfhw5zfs2ev3vsi7ooquiylsdndym7dnn mmy7o57qq@jpeg

[SnakeBoy]

Dems feeling the heat...will fold soon

1983354102353678787
1983519466576056613

[ChumpDumper]

Dems feeling the heat...will fold soon

1983354102353678787
1983519466576056613

Democrats control all of government!

Trump is powerless!

According to snacks.

[Winehole23]

Dems feeling the heat...will fold soon

1983354102353678787
1983519466576056613TACO or Rs nuking the filibuster seem likely to me

[Winehole23]

reportedly about 13% of military families use WIC


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:aqhpcizn4wz3d35yggdkqtvi/bafkreihsz3mdpyfo5frnjexbfq3tcuperjjeptl6pmwfnrgzo c6minsoqa@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Trump is choosing this outcome because he wants Americans to suffer and die if he doesn't get more power, right away


“People can die” from even short gaps in nutrition and food access, said Lindsay Allen, a health economist at Northwestern University. She notes that people with diet-sensitive chronic diseases like diabetes, hypertension, and chronic kidney disease rely on SNAP to buy nutritious food that helps them manage their conditions. Diabetes rates, for example, are higher among lower-income Americans, affecting 13% (https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/php/data-research/appendix.html#cdc_report_pub_study_section_3-table-3) of people who live below the federal poverty level.

Without those funds, people may skip meals or opt for cheaper ultra-processed foods, which tend to be lower in nutritional value and higher in ingredients like sodium and sugar, according to Colleen Heflin, a professor of public administration and international affairs at Syracuse University. Either option could have immediate impacts on their health.

Research also suggests older Americans who receive SNAP are less likely to skip medications (https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/snap-is-linked-with-improved-health-outcomes-and-lower-health-care-costs), presumably because they have more money to go toward copays.

“People are going to go hungry very quickly,” said Allen. “And then their health is going to deteriorate.” Even if they’re cut off from benefits only temporarily, she said, they may get evicted or have their power shut off or skip medications in the meantime. “So what kind of compounding effect does that have?”

“Food insecurity in and of itself is a health risk,” she added. “As soon as SNAP benefits stop, you see immediate declines in dietary quality and in ongoing nutritional stability.”
https://www.statnews.com/2025/10/27/snap-benefits-cut-off-nov-1-government-shutdown/

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:z3k2ghryxy2mppmmx2r3ol5v/bafkreigdb2nv2dum2duszjgla3vpenayyesouiys4abguqixj p4iua7tfm@jpeg

[koriwhat]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:z3k2ghryxy2mppmmx2r3ol5v/bafkreigdb2nv2dum2duszjgla3vpenayyesouiys4abguqixj p4iua7tfm@jpeg

^ leftist obfuscation in action

[Winehole23]

JD Vance: "The suffering is going to get a lot worse."

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:n74wy26n6klbv7xgrndeog7s/bafkreifjst3bgxltik47dymf6j2n6p7ymuacigapap2kptmyj s2emwoen4@jpeg

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:n74wy26n6klbv7xgrndeog7s/bafkreifm5tmm5wcjyjdqxgybibdby7sjvqzx3aar5ysvjlsbw pdagj2fmq@jpeg

[SnakeBoy]

Affordable Care Act

[Winehole23]

Affordable Care ActYes, I've recently replied to a graph you posted wrt the ACA

It only slowed the growth of healthcare costs, it never reduced them in absolute terms because it never sought to manage the costs.

Republicans have raised the price of the ACA in the BBB and now refuse to pass a fix, do you have anything to say about that?

[Winehole23]

or are you allergic to commenting on the present?

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Affordable Care Act

Why do you want it to be less affordable, snacks?

Explain your desire to raise health care premiums for millions of Americans.

Is your emotional fragility covered by your plan?

[Winehole23]

all these right wing sickos want to talk about is something other than what is happening

even though what is happening is supposedly their triumph

:lol

[Winehole23]

low opinion of Americans


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4usmserhjqkvhldgedfjb3jw/bafkreidezdr6kfkrntuv3ysmmn4hats6s36twnn5xu3g3fmgn h57m4ca6q@jpeg

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:z3k2ghryxy2mppmmx2r3ol5v/bafkreigdb2nv2dum2duszjgla3vpenayyesouiys4abguqixj p4iua7tfm@jpeg

The only difference between him and Marie Antoinette is that he actually knows average Joe doesn't have cake.

[Winehole23]

The only difference between him and Marie Antoinette is that he actually knows average Joe doesn't have cake.Trump is much worse

If he survives long enough, he might replace Hitler as the principal villain of history

[Winehole23]

~500,000 deaths from sh!tcanning USAID so far, could be 10 million by the 2030s

[DarrinS]

You people are retarded.

[Winehole23]

You people are retarded.who is "you people"?

[Winehole23]

you think the shuttering of USAID was fatality-free?

[DarrinS]

Especially winehole. Go get a life.

[Winehole23]

do you know how starvation and disease work?

[Winehole23]

Especially winehole. Go get a life.I've got a great life, thanks for your interest

[DMX7]

This is a Democrat government shutdown -- they own it. Republicans' only option to end it is to break the Democrat's filibuster by ending the filibuster once and for all.

[Winehole23]

This is a Democrat government shutdown -- they own it. Republicans' only option to end it is to break the Democrat's filibuster by ending the filibuster once and for all.lol

Mike Johnson could gavel in the House of Representatives and start passing laws now, if he so chose

If only Chuck Schumer, the minority Senate leader, would let him

:cry

[Winehole23]

Trumplandia is afraid of disaffected Republican congress-critters tbh

[Winehole23]

Why has the House been on vacay for five weeks?

:lol

[DMX7]

lol

Mike Johnson could gavel in the House of Representatives and start passing laws

If only Chuck Schumer, the minority Senate leader, would let him

:cry

You can't fund the government with only the House of Representatives. LOL

Senate filibuster stops it dead in its tracks.

[Winehole23]

You can't fund the government with only the House of Representatives. LOL

Senate filibuster stops it dead in its tracks.I thought Republicans had a majority in the Senate. Is it non-functional?

Spending measures start in the House, are you familiar with the US Constitution?

:lol

[Winehole23]

lol pretending Democrats control anything in this government

[Winehole23]

why is Mike Johnson afraid to gavel in his own legislative body?

[Winehole23]

Republicans drove insurance premiums up in the BBB


Without extending these tax credits, Texans who buy health insurance on the exchange will pay $459 more on average per year in premiums, an increase of 289% over current rates (https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/how-premium-costs-for-subsidized-aca-marketplace-enrollees-would-rise-if-enhanced-financial-help-expires/). Researchers also estimate that these cost increases will drive roughly 1.7 million Texans (https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/571213e9-247f-4821-858c-2bac03d3bc89/6.30---jec-minority-health-insurance-losses.pdf) to lose their insurance coverage altogether — causing our uninsured rate to surge to over 20%.https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/obamacare-insurance-rates-spike-congress-21128832.php

[Winehole23]

this is from the states' lawsuit to fund SNAP


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qqdqgzpqwyho4cxzso62m54q/bafkreiguxci72s6asu7xofp5xul3g3ci66pus77hdr4237htr mksqnogde@jpeghttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71783393/26/commonwealth-of-massachusetts-v-united-states-department-of-agriculture/

[Winehole23]

Judge Talwani basically gave the government three days to tap the contingency fund to fund SNAP


“This court has now clarified that Defendants are required to use those Contingency Funds as necessary for the SNAP program…Defendants also may supplement the Contingency Funds by authorizing a transfer of additionalfunds pursuant to 7 U.S.C. § 2257 to avoid any reductions.”

[Winehole23]

RI judge orders USDA to release SNAP contingency funds by Monday


In the Rhode Island case, per the minute entry, "the Court orders the USDA to distribute contingency funds; report to the Court by 12:00 PM on Monday, November 3, 2025, regarding the status of the distribution; and to honor the existing waivers."

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:36eqtmzysqf7wsslczw4uxcd/bafkreiaxnkdlj6acvegitob4thwh4hipvisidt7wshhgctpza xyk2uvdfm@jpeg

[Winehole23]

dem AGs: you're legally required to spend these funds to keep people from starving

white house: no we're not

judges: yes you are

white house: no we're not, let them starve

[Winehole23]

LOOK AT MY NEW MARBLE BATHROOM


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreic6p5n3m6bngu7sb2o5i6xmlc5ztbr2fmr2kbnqghkrs ncvsmrlga@jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

"I can see my new ballroom from up here"


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[Winehole23]

Trump USDA appointee says she'll disobey a court order to release the funds


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:cphgfu544qoxz4mzia2iqmyz/bafkreib6lcy4gwpqdituuls5my5b36cmn5e7xhu63cbgjo22o 44duulbiq@jpeg

[ChumpDumper]

This is a Democrat government shutdown -- they own it. Republicans' only option to end it is to break the Democrat's filibuster by ending the filibuster once and for all.

Oh look, DMX7 is wrong again.:lol

[DMX7]

Oh look, DMX7 is wrong again.:lol

Nope, democrats want to use the shutdown to extract concessions. It's their shutdown!

[Winehole23]

Nope, democrats want to use the shutdown to extract concessions. It's their shutdown!what prevents Mike Johnson from gavelling the House into session and passing laws?

[ChumpDumper]

Nope, democrats want to use the shutdown to extract concessions. It's their shutdown!What concessions?

[DMX7]

What concessions?

ACA ("Obamacare") tax credits

[DMX7]

what prevents Mike Johnson from gavelling the House into session and passing laws?

Any bill to reopen the government has to pass in the senate where Dems are filibusterring to keep the government shutdown.

[SnakeBoy]

Amazing the lengths Chump and Whinehole will go to in order to defend the Democrat gerontocracy. I'd like to know why they refuse to criticize the current shitty old party but they refuse to talk about it. They just do what they're told.

[DarrinS]

Democrats really getting popular over this

[BadMotorscooter]

It doesnt matter who is to blame for the shutdown....it is driving Independents away from a two party system even faster which helps the republicans and hurts the democrats....democrats are beyond stupid.....lmao.

[Winehole23]

Any bill to reopen the government has to pass in the senate where Dems are filibusterring to keep the government shutdown.nonsense, the Senate is not boss of the House

[BadMotorscooter]

democrats caused the shutdown and are losing independent voters and that is fact.....lmao

[Winehole23]

Democrats really getting popular over thisTrump and Republicans seem to be getting the lion's share of the blame and mass support for Trump is cratering. Maybe why that's why y'all are so nervous right now.

[Winehole23]

It doesnt matter who is to blame for the shutdown....it is driving Independents away from a two party system even faster which helps the republicans and hurts the democrats....democrats are beyond stupid.....lmao.what about independents again?


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/30/trump-shutdown-blame-poll/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzYxNzk2ODAwLCJpc3 MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzYzMTgyNzk5LCJp YXQiOjE3NjE3OTY4MDAsImp0aSI6IjIzNTIyMTA5LWI1NmItNG JhZC1iZmU1LTA3ZTQxNTJmZDhkNSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8v d3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDI1Lz EwLzMwL3RydW1wLXNodXRkb3duLWJsYW1lLXBvbGwvIn0.PIIP ebmlXorTeDQrj1EkqMyCqgAr81cKKuX-m4APF3M

[velik_m]

Trump Marks Full Month Of Government Shutdown With $3.4 Million Golf Trip To Florida

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump marked the first full month of the ongoing government shutdown Friday by blaming it all on Democrats and taking a $3.4 million golf trip to Florida, bringing the total that taxpayers have spent on his hobby to $60.7 million since he retook the presidency in January.

This is his 13th trip to Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach country club, which is across the Intracoastal Waterway from his golf course in West Palm Beach, adjacent to the county jail.

Asked about the shutdown, which has furloughed nearly 700,000 federal workers and is forcing another 700,000 to continue working without pay, Trump blamed Democrats. He told reporters after arriving on Air Force One: “It’s their fault. Everything is their fault.”

During the flight south, he spent time posting photos of his latest renovation project at the White House, redoing the Lincoln bathroom in ornate marble and gold. “The Refurbished Lincoln Bathroom in the White House — Highly polished, Statuary marble!” he wrote.
...


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-shutdown-florida-golf_n_69051d7be4b0060501ac44b6

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

According to the Government Accountability Office, 70% of wage-earning adults (https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-410t?utm_source=www.thehandbasket.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=snap-benefits-feed-essential-needs-while-still-leaving-many-hungry-for-more) who rely on government programs like SNAP and Medicaid work full-time, largely in the vaunted private sector. Notably, that includes workers at hugely profitable companies like Walmart and McDonald’s, whose low wages are effectively been subsidized (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/18/food-stamps-medicaid-mcdonalds-walmart-bernie-sanders/?_pml=1&utm_source=www.thehandbasket.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=snap-benefits-feed-essential-needs-while-still-leaving-many-hungry-for-more) by tax dollars without any of the blame or paternalistic lectures. As The Daily Yonder notes (https://dailyyonder.com/halt-in-snap-benefits-will-hurt-millions-of-rural-families/2025/10/30/?utm_source=www.thehandbasket.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=snap-benefits-feed-essential-needs-while-still-leaving-many-hungry-for-more), SNAP recipients are also disproportionately made up of rural households (13.7% SNAP enrollment) compared to households in metro areas (11.4%), which runs against popular perceptions and tropes about need.https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/snap-benefits-funding-adam-chandler

[SnakeBoy]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kd4cyu4rpkgjbym3gckhrivz/bafkreiau3pqtrhhdc2qkei3c7wlnzb6zmtmumn5t2fxwea5c7 cdok2jfdq@jpeg

Affordable Care Act

[Winehole23]

Affordable Care Act


Yes, I've recently replied twice to a graph you posted wrt the ACA

It only slowed the growth of healthcare costs, it never reduced them in absolute terms because it never sought to manage the costs.

Republicans have raised the cost of ACA premiums in the BBB and now refuse to pass a fix, do you have anything to say about that?


or are you allergic to commenting on the present?

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Affordable Care Act

Why do you insist health care costs rise this much?

You never talk about your desire for higher health care premiums for employed US citizens. All you do is display your emotional fragility and fear of engagement on an anonymous message board.

[Winehole23]

The White House did not disclose several donors to the ballroom who have business before Trump, these are a few

▶️Jeff Yass, investor in TikTok parent co.: $2.5m+ to ballroom
▶️BlackRock, trying to buy Panama Canal ports: $2.5m+
▶️Extremity Care, Medicare reimbursement issues: $2.5m
▶️Vantive, Medicare reimbursement: $2.5m

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/01/us/politics/trumps-team-offers-to-keep-some-ballroom-donors-incognito.html?unlocked_article_code=1.x08.e8N7.ud 7cAOKn2Lsl&smid=url-share


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[BadMotorscooter]

democrats scared that they are the blame for the shutdown......:lol

[Winehole23]

someone wants to change the topic badly


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[Winehole23]

Affordable Care Act...was modeled on Romneycare, which drew directly from a Heritage Foundation concept...the individual insurance mandate

The ACA essentially is the Republican health care plan until another one gets here...


https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oral-history/choice-2012/romneycare/

[Winehole23]

concierge, cabinet-level health care for friends of the administration



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[Winehole23]

Scott Adams wants the **PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CALL SOMEONE TO TELL THEM TO ADMINISTER AN IV**

[Blake]

democrats scared that they are the blame for the shutdown......:lol

Rambling nothingness

[Blake]

someone wants to change the topic badly


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreidqvwm5gyt3cv6gs2idh4x2krswcp2z5mam3u6telpt2 sfdzo6z34@jpeg

"I need an evangelical cheerleader boost"

[Blake]

Amazing the lengths Chump and Whinehole will go to in order to defend the Democrat gerontocracy. I'd like to know why they refuse to criticize the current shitty old party but they refuse to talk about it. They just do what they're told.


Democrats really getting popular over this

Lol projection

[Winehole23]

btw, does intentionally starving Americans count as political violence?

[Millennial_Messiah]

btw, does intentionally starving Americans count as political violence?

yes, and the democrats minus fetterman and 1-2 others are doing it by voting no to pass the cr.... approve the etfs and re open the government... tomorrow ties the all time record.

Schumer for Prison

[Winehole23]

SNAP spending is mandatory, Trump is withholding it

More illegal impoundment

[Winehole23]

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Dems: Republicans control every branch of government.

Reps: You're holding us hostage with the 60-vote threshold, you meanies!

Trump: Get rid of the 60-vote threshold, Republicans!

Reps: ...we can't, my lord...

Dems: [wave buh-bye to the main GOP talking point]

[Winehole23]

(background: Republican congress-critters hoping Trump will drop dead before he drags them all down with him)

[Winehole23]

(lol Trump echoing 2020 Trump blaming the Great COVID shutdown on Democrats)

[Winehole23]

cities and states are assuming the burden of governance for the failing 119th Congress


ATLANTA - Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens has ordered an immediate pause on residential evictions and water shutoffs as the federal lapse in SNAP funding threatens to leave families without food assistance starting Nov. 1.

...The mayor’s administrative order directs the Department of Watershed Management to halt all residential water service terminations for unpaid bills through Jan. 31, 2026, or until the federal shutdown ends. It also instructs city housing partners, including the Atlanta Housing Authority, Invest Atlanta, the Fulton County/City of Atlanta Land Bank Authority, and Partners for Home, to suspend eviction filings and late fees in city-owned or city-funded housing for the same period.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-snap-shutdown-atlanta-pauses-evictions-water-shutoff

[Winehole23]

Republicans in the US Congress can't or won't govern for some reason

[Winehole23]

If you see any business owners belittling SNAP recipients for accepting government money to get through tough times, maybe look them up on @propublica.org (https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:k4jt6heuiamymgi46yeuxtpt)'s PPP Loan Tracker to see if they got any of the $793B in bailout money (96% of which was forgiven)projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/... (https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/)

[Winehole23]

it's kind of weird how Trump insisted on signing the 2020 stimmy checks, but has never (to my knowledge) mentioned since how his super-dole saved all our asses in 2020

[Winehole23]

in a sense, much of post-COVID Trump can be viewed as an attempt to take revenge for being forced against his breeding and temperament to be a benevolent and generous president, using his power to benefit everybody during an epochal global pandemic

[Winehole23]

...one that has not yet reached a conclusion

[Winehole23]

Rhode island Judge orders USDA to tap SNAP contingency funds by EOD on Wednesday at the latest

The court thanked the president for his willingness to follow the law :lol



A federal judge in Rhode Island has acknowledged President Donald Trump (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump)’s “quick and definitive response” to a court ruling on Friday over Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/snap)) benefit payments, describing the president’s involvement as “greatly appreciated.”


A footnote in the order acknowledges Trump’s involvement, noting the court’s recognition of his efforts to facilitate timely funding.
"The court greatly appreciates the president’s quick and definitive response to this court’s order and his desire to provide the necessary SNAP funding," U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. wrote in a court order on Saturday.


McConnell ruled that USDA must now ensure that SNAP benefits (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/snap-benefits) for November reach recipients in full by the end of Monday, November 3, or that partial payments be issued no later than the end of the day on Wednesday, November 5.


“There is no question that the congressionally approved contingency funds must be used now because of the shutdown,” the judge wrote.
https://www.newsweek.com/judge-praises-trump-issues-deadline-for-november-snap-benefit-payments-10977974

[Winehole23]

Seal Duffy shutting down aviation before Thanksgiving is a nonzero possibility

Is it worth it for Republicans to continue to shield elite pedos and to starve Americans for political clout?



The Federal Aviation Administration (https://x.com/FAANews/status/1984421934445031468) announced on Friday, "A surge in callouts is straining staffing levels at multiple facilities, leading to widespread impacts" to half of its core 30 facilities facing staffing shortages. The agency also reported nearly 80% of its air traffic controllers were absent at its New York-area facilities.



"After 31 days without pay, air traffic controllers are under immense stress and fatigue," according to the FAA. "The shutdown must end so that these controllers receive the pay they’ve earned and travelers can avoid further disruptions and delays."
https://www.rawstory.com/flights/

[Millennial_Messiah]

Expect the Schumer Shutdown to end this week AFTER the 2025 elections, conveniently.


Senator Boozman says the crypto bill (clarity act) will be passed on or before Thanksgiving 11/27/2025, hopefully sooner



Seal Duffy shutting down aviation before Thanksgiving is a nonzero possibility

Is it worth it for Democrats to continue to shield elite pedos and to starve Americans for political clout?


Fixed. YOUR PARTY ARE THE ONES OBJECTIVELY VOTING NO. DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN OR NOT???!?

[Winehole23]

Expect the Schumer Shutdown to end this week AFTER the 2025 elections, conveniently.


Senator Boozman says the crypto bill (clarity act) will be passed on or before Thanksgiving 11/27/2025, hopefully sooner




Fixed. YOUR PARTY ARE THE ONES OBJECTIVELY VOTING NO. DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN OR NOT???!?The House can go into session and start passing bills anytime it wants, this notion that everything depends on the CR in the Senate is balderdash -- but even if it were true, the Senate could nuke the filibuster and pass the CR

Dems don't have y'all handcuffed, dude

[Yonivore]

So, it looks like the conversation has gotten far afield of the central question—who’s actually responsible for the shutdown and when it’s going to end. The truth is, Democrats engineered this standoff by packaging unrelated partisan measures into a stopgap bill and then claiming moral high ground when conservatives refused to rubber-stamp it. They’ve taken what was meant to be a straightforward, temporary funding extension and weaponized it to advance permanent policy changes—turning a simple “keep the lights on” measure into a political hostage situation. Conservatives have been ready from day one to pass a clean Continuing Resolution, but the Left would rather force a crisis than lose leverage.

Democrats should listen to their own Messiah, the Right Reverend Diety, Barack Obama...

https://x.com/i/status/1983943644815003650

The latest Democratic talking point — “We just want affordable healthcare and for people to eat” — sounds noble, but it’s deliberately misleading. It frames the debate as if the only choices are compassion or cruelty, while quietly attaching massive long-term spending and power grabs under the cover of kindness.

Here’s what’s Democrats actually want put into the Clean CR in order to vote for it:

Permanent ACA Subsidies – The COVID-era subsidies were meant as temporary relief, yet now there’s a push to make them permanent — to the tune of $2–3 trillion over 10 years. And remember, those subsidies go to the insurance companies, not directly to the insured. There’s no guarantee that money reduces premiums or out-of-pocket costs for families.

Rolling Back Work Requirements – For both Medicaid and SNAP, Democrats want to reverse the modest work requirements that encourage able-bodied adults to stay in or return to the workforce.

Restoring Funding to NPR and PBS – Public broadcasting already enjoys a huge private donor base and corporate sponsorship. Why is taxpayer funding being prioritized in a supposed “emergency” bill?

Limiting Presidential Spending Authority – There’s an effort to block the White House from pausing or reviewing spending, which effectively strips future presidents — of either party — from exercising fiscal oversight.

Undoing $1.5 Trillion in Cuts – Recent Republican efforts to reduce spending through the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” are being directly targeted for reversal.

In short, what’s being slipped into a Continuing Resolution — a stopgap measure meant simply to keep government running — is a massive attempt to grow federal entitlements, expand dependency systems, restore ideological spending, shield bureaucracies from accountability, strip executive control over spending, and cement policies designed to be irreversible later

This isn’t a debate about whether Americans should have food or healthcare — it’s a debate about whether Washington should keep exploiting crises to make temporary aid permanent and expand its own control. Like Barry says, "That's why we have elections."

[ChumpDumper]

So, it looks like the conversation has gotten far afield of the central question—who’s actually responsible for the shutdown and when it’s going to end. The truth is, Democrats engineered this standoff by packaging unrelated partisan measures into a stopgap bill and then claiming moral high ground when conservatives refused to rubber-stamp it. They’ve taken what was meant to be a straightforward, temporary funding extension and weaponized it to advance permanent policy changes—turning a simple “keep the lights on” measure into a political hostage situation. Conservatives have been ready from day one to pass a clean Continuing Resolution, but the Left would rather force a crisis than lose leverage.

Democrats should listen to their own Messiah, the Right Reverend Diety, Barack Obama...

https://x.com/i/status/1983943644815003650

The latest Democratic talking point — “We just want affordable healthcare and for people to eat” — sounds noble, but it’s deliberately misleading. It frames the debate as if the only choices are compassion or cruelty, while quietly attaching massive long-term spending and power grabs under the cover of kindness.

Here’s what’s Democrats actually want put into the Clean CR in order to vote for it:

Permanent ACA Subsidies – The COVID-era subsidies were meant as temporary relief, yet now there’s a push to make them permanent — to the tune of $2–3 trillion over 10 years. And remember, those subsidies go to the insurance companies, not directly to the insured. There’s no guarantee that money reduces premiums or out-of-pocket costs for families.

Rolling Back Work Requirements – For both Medicaid and SNAP, Democrats want to reverse the modest work requirements that encourage able-bodied adults to stay in or return to the workforce.

Restoring Funding to NPR and PBS – Public broadcasting already enjoys a huge private donor base and corporate sponsorship. Why is taxpayer funding being prioritized in a supposed “emergency” bill?

Limiting Presidential Spending Authority – There’s an effort to block the White House from pausing or reviewing spending, which effectively strips future presidents — of either party — from exercising fiscal oversight.

Undoing $1.5 Trillion in Cuts – Recent Republican efforts to reduce spending through the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” are being directly targeted for reversal.

In short, what’s being slipped into a Continuing Resolution — a stopgap measure meant simply to keep government running — is a massive attempt to grow federal entitlements, expand dependency systems, restore ideological spending, shield bureaucracies from accountability, strip executive control over spending, and cement policies designed to be irreversible later

This isn’t a debate about whether Americans should have food or healthcare — it’s a debate about whether Washington should keep exploiting crises to make temporary aid permanent and expand its own control. Like Barry says, "That's why we have elections."
Looks great.

You proved you don't give a shit about deficits or the debt, so what is your problem?

[Winehole23]

The Senate CR is stuck because Republicans refuse to make deals for the votes they need to pass it

Simple inability to govern

[Yonivore]

The Senate CR is stuck because Republicans refuse to give in to blackmail.
There, fixed it for you.

Interestingly - it appears the Democrats may be nearing the Finding Out from their Fucking Around.

Secretary Rollins Requires States to Provide Records on SNAP Benefits, Ensure Lawful Use of Federal Funds (https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/05/06/secretary-rollins-requires-states-provide-records-snap-benefits-ensure-lawful-use-federal-funds)
Many (if not all) Democrat-controlled States have refused to account for my tax dollars. Secretary Collins suggested, even when government reopens, SNAP Funds may be withheld until States give an accounting of the funds.

[ChumpDumper]

There, fixed it for you.

Interestingly - it appears the Democrats may be nearing the Finding Out from their Fucking Around.

Secretary Rollins Requires States to Provide Records on SNAP Benefits, Ensure Lawful Use of Federal Funds (https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/05/06/secretary-rollins-requires-states-provide-records-snap-benefits-ensure-lawful-use-federal-funds)
Many (if not all) Democrat-controlled States have refused to account for my tax dollars. Secretary Collins suggested, even when government reopens, SNAP Funds may be withheld until States give an accounting of the funds.
Bottom line, the well has run dry. At this time, there will be no benefits issued November 01.

Why is he lying?

The emergency funds that Trump used last time are available.

Please explain why Trump is lying.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The House can go into session and start passing bills anytime it wants, this notion that everything depends on the CR in the Senate is balderdash -- but even if it were true, the Senate could nuke the filibuster and pass the CR

Dems don't have y'all handcuffed, dude
That's literally the only viable option, permanently ending the filibuster rather than reconciling since the Senate parliamentarian is a generic emilys list leftist fembot appointed by Obama and apparently can't be fired by Trump or the GOP (and the matters the left is shutting the government down with "No" votes aren't even all related to budget anyway)... and Yonivore's analysis is spot-on. Nuking the filibuster unfortunately can't be an executive order or a decision make solely by Thune, you'd literally need 51 yes votes to nuke the filibuster, you already know that Murkowski and Collins won't, you know old fucks like McConnell have been adamantly pro-filibuster so I doubt the GOP has the votes even if someone like Fetterman voted yes to end the filibuster, which is far from a guarantee since he's a) a Democrat at heart and b) waffled on the issue on his 2022 campaign trail against Oz...

[Winehole23]

That's literally the only viable option, permanently ending the filibuster rather than reconciling since the Senate parliamentarian is a generic emilys list leftist fembot appointed by Obama and apparently can't be fired by Trump or the GOP (and the matters the left is shutting the government down with "No" votes aren't even all related to budget anyway)... and Yonivore's analysis is spot-on. Nuking the filibuster unfortunately can't be an executive order or a decision make solely by Thune, you'd literally need 51 yes votes to nuke the filibuster, you already know that Murkowski and Collins won't, you know old fucks like McConnell have been adamantly pro-filibuster so I doubt the GOP has the votes even if someone like Fetterman voted yes to end the filibuster, which is far from a guarantee since he's a) a Democrat at heart and b) waffled on the issue on his 2022 campaign trail against Oz...if Rs want to pass a bill, they need to negotiate with the minority

if they refuse to do it, they're not serious about passing a bill

solution: gavel the house in session and get to work, why are y'all still on vacay?

:lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

if Rs want to pass a bill, they need to negotiate with the minority

if they refuse to do it, they're not serious about passing a bill

solution: gavel the house in session and get to work, why are y'all still on vacay?

:lol
That's fucktarded. It defeats the purpose of having a majority in the first place.

Your side didn't negotiate with our minority in 2010 or 2013, so why should we have to deal with your lousy minority now?

End the filibuster. It has literally no purpose. Neither party is ever getting to 60 senators again, well the GOP theoretically could by 2030 but it's a very narrow path that would require them to win almost all of the swing state senate elections, largely against (D) incumbents. With the 2024 elections ushering-out the last of the legacy red-state (D) Senators [Brown, Tester, Manchin], the (D)s are realistically capped at a highest potential of 52 senate seats [the GOP is theoretically capped at 62 + the seat in Maine] (24 states went to Trump by >10% and the country is far too polarized beyond repair to ever elect say, another Democrat for U.S. Senate in a state like North Dakota or Montana, or another Republican for U.S. Senate in a state like Vermont or Massachusetts) so their path to any majority is very narrow and relies on running the table in all of the Biden states + picking off a senate seat or two in NC which is tough but not out of reach I guess...?!?? It's not 2006 anymore... for U.S. Senate, and any federalized election in general, polarization is king.

The point is, the majority makes the laws, not the minority. Elections have consequences. If you want your way, flip the majority, plain and simple. 51/100 votes is a majority and should be enough to pass whatever. And unlike with the U.S. House which has gotten out of control with batshit crazy shit like Prop 50 where you can draw spaghetti districts across a population-rich state to rig the majority (like Pritzker's batshit map in Illinois and what Spanberger has been hawking lately in Virginia), in the Senate it's very simple: win the majority of states. And the Dems have been increasingly lousy at appealing to non-urban voters in the past few decades, so it's their fault that they can't come close to sniffing Senate seats or ECV votes in most rural states these days.

[Winehole23]

That's fucktarded. It defeats the purpose of having a majority in the first place.

Your side didn't negotiate with our minority in 2010 or 2013, so why should we have to deal with your lousy minority now?

End the filibuster. It has literally no purpose. Neither party is ever getting to 60 senators again, well the GOP theoretically could by 2030 but it's a very narrow path that would require them to win almost all of the swing state senate elections, largely against (D) incumbents. With the 2024 elections ushering-out the last of the legacy red-state (D) Senators [Brown, Tester, Manchin], the (D)s are realistically capped at a highest potential of 52 senate seats [the GOP is theoretically capped at 62 + the seat in Maine] (24 states went to Trump by >10% and the country is far too polarized beyond repair to ever elect say, another Democrat for U.S. Senate in a state like North Dakota or Montana, or another Republican for U.S. Senate in a state like Vermont or Massachusetts) so their path to any majority is very narrow and relies on running the table in all of the Biden states + picking off a senate seat or two in NC which is tough but not out of reach I guess...?!?? It's not 2006 anymore... for U.S. Senate, and any federalized election in general, polarization is king.

The point is, the majority makes the laws, not the minority. Elections have consequences. If you want your way, flip the majority, plain and simple. 51/100 votes is a majority and should be enough to pass whatever. And unlike with the U.S. House which has gotten out of control with batshit crazy shit like Prop 50 where you can draw spaghetti districts across a population-rich state to rig the majority (like Pritzker's batshit map in Illinois and what Spanberger has been hawking lately in Virginia), in the Senate it's very simple: win the majority of states. And the Dems have been increasingly lousy at appealing to non-urban voters in the past few decades.sounds great, just nuke the filibuster

lol blaming Senate rules on the minority

[ChumpDumper]

That's fucktarded. It defeats the purpose of having a majority in the first place.

Your side didn't negotiate with our minority in 2010 or 2013, so why should we have to deal with your lousy minority now?

End the filibuster. It has literally no purpose. Neither party is ever getting to 60 senators again, well the GOP theoretically could by 2030 but it's a very narrow path that would require them to win almost all of the swing state senate elections, largely against (D) incumbents. With the 2024 elections ushering-out the last of the legacy red-state (D) Senators [Brown, Tester, Manchin], the (D)s are realistically capped at a highest potential of 52 senate seats [the GOP is theoretically capped at 62 + the seat in Maine] (24 states went to Trump by >10% and the country is far too polarized beyond repair to ever elect say, another Democrat for U.S. Senate in a state like North Dakota or Montana, or another Republican for U.S. Senate in a state like Vermont or Massachusetts) so their path to any majority is very narrow and relies on running the table in all of the Biden states + picking off a senate seat or two in NC which is tough but not out of reach I guess...?!?? It's not 2006 anymore... for U.S. Senate, and any federalized election in general, polarization is king.

The point is, the majority makes the laws, not the minority. Elections have consequences. If you want your way, flip the majority, plain and simple. 51/100 votes is a majority and should be enough to pass whatever. And unlike with the U.S. House which has gotten out of control with batshit crazy shit like Prop 50 where you can draw spaghetti districts across a population-rich state to rig the majority (like Pritzker's batshit map in Illinois and what Spanberger has been hawking lately in Virginia), in the Senate it's very simple: win the majority of states. And the Dems have been increasingly lousy at appealing to non-urban voters in the past few decades, so it's their fault that they can't come close to sniffing Senate seats or ECV votes in most rural states these days.

So according to you, this is the Republicans' fault.:tu

[Blake]

So according to you, this is the Republicans' fault.:tu

:lol

[Blake]

1984605948619731063

[Winehole23]

the Republican government shutdown will be costly


The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the ongoing federal government shutdown could remove $7 billion to $14 billion from the U.S. economy, reducing fourth-quarter GDP by as much as 2% due to halted government spending.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/us-government-shutdown-cost-7-billion-month-cbo-rcna240562

[Winehole23]

Trump impounding funds contrary to a court order and the law

Starving Americans for political clout, as one does now



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[koriwhat]

Trump impounding funds contrary to a court order and the law

Starving Americans for political clout, as one does now

not true.

by the way, let them leeches starve!

[Winehole23]

Rs are receiving the blame


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[Winehole23]

Senate Republicans blocked a resolution demanding full funding for SNAP benefits.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Shutdown should end by the end of this week. Election night tonight.

[Winehole23]

Shutdown should end by the end of this week. Election night tonight.^^^sweaty poasting

[Winehole23]

it only gets worse for Rs unless they do something



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[Blake]

it only gets worse for Rs unless they do something

Those trillionaire healthcare companies really keeping the pressure on them to hold fast, I guess.

[Winehole23]

Those trillionaire healthcare companies really keeping the pressure on them to hold fast, I guess.I'm halfway convinced Mike Johnson is waiting for POTUS to kick the bucket before he convenes the House

Epstein files must be really bad for Trump

[Winehole23]

Republican shutdown is bollixing holiday travel



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[Blake]

I'm halfway convinced Mike Johnson is waiting for POTUS to kick the bucket before he convenes the House

Epstein files must be really bad for Trump

Lol yeah there's that too

[Winehole23]

Republican shutdown is bollixing holiday travel



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letting aviation break down for political leverage

today's Republican sadists

[Winehole23]

US soldiers are not being treated right


An Army installation’s dining facility is closed because of the government shutdown, officials said.


The Fort Leavenworth Installation Warrior Restaurant is closed “until further notice,” base officials announced (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid06PZixmFQT9kKsvQynu6 esV9RvzM1eSf7ddP1WCkvyz5cJ8miYPsGy451bNte83Jsl&id=100064544268396) in a Facebook post. The Warrior Restaurant is the sole dining facility, or DFAC, on the Kansas base.


For most junior enlisted soldiers, DFACs are one of the few on-base options for meals, especially if they don’t have cars to get off post. Additionally, for those living in the barracks, a portion of their paycheck is allocated to cover the costs of eating at the dining facility.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-dfac-government-shutdown/

[Winehole23]

Trump ordered to pay up

Withholding SNAP money is arbitrary and capricious (i.e, without any colorable legal basis)


U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. from the District of Rhode Island ordered the Trump (https://www.rawstory.com/trump-news/) administration to make full Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) payments for November to states by Friday.



McConnell's Thursday ruling came after administration officials said that partial payments (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/03/us/politics/snap-food-stamps-trump.html) would be sent out in November at an undetermined time.


"It is clear to the court that the administration did not comply with this court's oral order," the judge said of a Nov. 1 ruling.

"The court was clear that the administration had to either make the full payment by this past Monday, or it must, quote, expeditiously resolve the administrative and clerical burdens it described in its papers. But under no circumstances shall the partial payments be made later than Wednesday, November 5, 2025. The record is clear that the administration did neither."


McConnell noted that the Trump administration was causing "irreparable harm" to hungry Americans.


"USDA arbitrarily and capriciously created this problem by ignoring the congressional mandate for contingency funds and failing to timely notify the states," he explained. "They knew that there would be a long delay in paying partial SNAP payments and failed to consider the harms individuals who rely on those benefits would suffer."



The Trump administration also made the "erroneously claim" that certain other funds could not be used for the SNAP program, McConnell observed.


"There is no statute prohibiting USDA from using the funding for SNAP," he said. "A rational premise on such legal, a rationale premised on such legal errors must be set aside as arbitrary and capricious."


"More importantly, without SNAP funding for the month of November, 16 million children are immediately at risk of going hungry," the judge continued. "This should never happen in America. In fact, it's likely that SNAP recipients are hungry as we sit here."


"The defendants are ordered to make the full payment to the states due for November's snap benefits by tomorrow, Friday, November 7, 2025. The request for a stay of this decision, either a stay or an administrative stay, is denied."


McConnell concluded by noting that "people have gone without for too long."


"Not making payments to them for even another day is simply unacceptable," he said.
https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-full-snap-payments/

[Winehole23]

the failing 119th Congress and illegal impoundment are taking a bite out of GDP

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Hassett: "The impact on the economy of the shutdown is far worse than we expected because it's gone on for so long. Goldman estimate it's over a percent or a percent & a half of GDP. I think we were thinking we were gonna have at least 3% growth in Q4. Now we're expecting something like half that."

[Winehole23]

Trump ordered to pay up

Withholding SNAP money is arbitrary and capricious (i.e, without any colorable legal basis)

https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-full-snap-payments/in response, Trump goes to court to continue to force people to starve

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/trump-admin-asks-for-emergency-stay-of-lower-courts-order-to-fund-snap-00641732

[Winehole23]

Anchorage is the 4th largest port of entry for air cargo



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[Winehole23]

Gunning for Marbury v Madison



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[Winehole23]

lol, Trump caved

November SNAP funds hit EBT cards today



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[Blake]

lol, Trump caved

November SNAP funds hit EBT cards today



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Now he'll say he did everybody an extra favor by giving the SNAP benefits. "You're welcome, poors."

[Millennial_Messiah]

Schumer saying he's willing to capitulate

[Winehole23]

Schumer saying he's willing to capitulateRepublicans reportedly have already refused the offer

House to stay on vacay for an eighth straight week, per Speaker Johnson

[Winehole23]

It was a small ask: vote for the minibus with a food stamps carve out and a one-year extension of ACA subsidies, with a promise to negotiate on healthcare next year

[Winehole23]

hastily turning down this offer makes Rs look even worse, advantage Schumer

Rs own all the pain plus the commercial aviation shutdown

[Winehole23]

Now he'll say he did everybody an extra favor by giving the SNAP benefits. "You're welcome, poors."Trump followed a court order to faithfully execute the law

like he swore an oath to do in the first place

[Winehole23]

flailing for purchase on the problem


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Please, Mister Trump, start sending cattle ranchers to jail for making money while giving Argentina infinity dollars. I beg you. It’s the only way to make America great again.

[Winehole23]

One-tenth of Rep. Grijalva's term has already passed without being sworn in

~812,000 Arizonans in the 4th district continue to be disenfranchised

The House remains on vacay to protect elite pedos

[Winehole23]

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. airlines cancel more than 1,000 flights on first day of cuts tied to government shutdown.

[SnakeBoy]

Dems can kill inflation if they continue on long enough. Then Fed can drop interest more. Then Trump can take credit for both.

[Winehole23]

Dems can kill inflation if they continue on long enough. Then Fed can drop interest more. Then Trump can take credit for both.when the country is at peace and people feel prosperous, that might work

if not, it would be a hollow victory

[Winehole23]

Trump policy is all sticks and no carrots

where are the goodies for the people?

[Winehole23]

Republicans squandered tempo and positioning by dismissing Schumer's rather minimal offer out of hand


"Republicans are keeping the government closed, starving kids, and making you miss your Thanksgiving flights because they want your healthcare costs to go through the roof" is actually a pretty effective message for Democrats

[Millennial_Messiah]

Republicans squandered tempo and positioning by dismissing Schumer's rather minimal offer out of hand

Yeah, I agree with that. Why not just extend ACA a year for US Citizens only? that's fucking stupid on Thune et al's part, Trump should have told them to say yes


Trump policy is all sticks and no carrots

where are the goodies for the people?

eh I blame the establishment GOP more than Trump on this, the same establishment GOP hacks like Lindsey Graham who shutdown the government over the same issue in 2013 but in reverse.... well before Trump stuck his nose into politics beyond pushing birtherism.... but Trump could at least tweet and tell them to and give more effort to get this done even if they won't, instead he's just pushing nuke the filibuster which is a good idea but I don't understand why you wouldn't take Schumer's deal today.

[Blake]

Trump followed a court order to faithfully execute the law

like he swore an oath to do in the first place

"You're welcome, judge"

[Millennial_Messiah]

I lean Republican, but that was a reasonable offer, literally extending a policy that has existed since 2013 for one more year and nothing else the Dems wanted, Thune etc should have accepted this, shame on the establishment GOP for not ending the shutdown today.

[Winehole23]

Yeah, I agree with that. Why not just extend ACA a year for US Citizens only? that's fucking stupid on Thune et al's part, Trump should have told them to say yes



eh I blame the establishment GOP more than Trump on this, the same establishment GOP hacks like Lindsey Graham who shutdown the government over the same issue in 2013 but in reverse.... well before Trump stuck his nose into politics beyond pushing birtherism.... but Trump could at least tweet and tell them to and give more effort to get this done even if they won't, instead he's just pushing nuke the filibuster which is a good idea but I don't understand why you wouldn't take Schumer's deal today.Rs are cowardly and cowed by Trump, to their own detriment

eventually the reality will dawn on them that Trump is hurting them too

[ChumpDumper]

Rs are cowardly and cowed by Trump, to their own detriment

eventually the reality will dawn on them that Trump is hurting them too

MTG seems like a harbinger.

Which is weird.

[BadMotorscooter]

Now he'll say he did everybody an extra favor by giving the SNAP benefits. "You're welcome, poors."


Wine ho bitch slapped again by a democrat supreme court justice no less....lmao.

Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-issues-emergency-order-to-block-full-snap-food-aid-payments/ar-AA1Q0HYq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=690ed2b7bbf848099fdb1bb094b1873a&ei=11)

[BadMotorscooter]

lol, Trump caved

November SNAP funds hit EBT cards today



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Ketanji Brown Jackson....a big liberal on the supreme court just bitch slapped all dempcrats with the law......lmao

Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments | PBS News (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/supreme-court-issues-emergency-order-to-block-full-snap-food-aid-payments)

[ChumpDumper]

Ketanji Brown Jackson....a big liberal on the supreme court just bitch slapped all dempcrats with the law......lmao

Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments | PBS News (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/supreme-court-issues-emergency-order-to-block-full-snap-food-aid-payments)
Trump wants children to starve and so do you.

Congratulations?

[Winehole23]

Ketanji Brown Jackson....a big liberal on the supreme court just bitch slapped all dempcrats with the law......lmao

Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments | PBS News (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/supreme-court-issues-emergency-order-to-block-full-snap-food-aid-payments)it's an administrative stay, merits weren't reached

no win or loss for anyone has happened yet


In an order circulated to the Court’s press corps at 9:17 p.m. ET, Jackson issued the administrative stay (https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/110725zr_pnk0.pdf) sought by the Trump administration. But her order says a lot more than the typical administrative stay—which usually contains nothing other than boilerplate (https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/110525zr_19m1.pdf). As Jackson wrote, “Given the First Circuit’s representations, an administrative stay is required to facilitate the First Circuit’s expeditious resolution of the pending stay motion.” Thus, she stayed the two orders from Judge McConnell “pending disposition of the motion for a stay pending appeal” in the First Circuit, “or further order of Justice Jackson or of the Court.” And as the order concludes, “This administrative stay will terminate forty-eight hours after the First Circuit’s resolution of the pending motion, which the First Circuit is expected to issue with dispatch.”


The first thing to say about this order is that I’ve never seen anything quite like it before. Circuit Justices don’t usually explain administrative stays, and certainly not with this much detail about the timing. Here, Justice Jackson is clearly telling the First Circuit to hustle—a message I am sure the court of appeals will receive and act upon.


As for why Justice Jackson did it, to me, the clue is the last sentence. Had Jackson refused to issue an administrative stay, it’s entirely possible (indeed, she may already have known) that a majority of her colleagues were ready to do it themselves. I still think that this is what happened back in April when the full Court intervened shortly before 1 a.m., without explaining why Justice Alito hadn’t, in the (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/144-the-supreme-courts-late-night)A.A.R.P. (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/144-the-supreme-courts-late-night) Alien Enemies Act case (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/144-the-supreme-courts-late-night). And from Jackson’s perspective, an administrative stay from the full Court would’ve been worse—almost certainly because it would have been open-ended (that is, it would not have had a deadline). The upshot would’ve been that Judge McConnell’s order could’ve remained frozen indefinitely while the full Court took its time. Yesterday’s grant of a stay in Trump v. Orr, for instance, came 48 days after the Justice Department first sought emergency relief.

Instead, by keeping the case for herself and granting the same relief, in contrast, Justice Jackson was able to directly influence the timing in both the First Circuit and the Supreme Court, at least for now. She nudged the First Circuit (which I expect to rule by the end of the weekend, Monday at the latest); and, assuming that court rules against the Trump administration, she also tied her colleagues’ hands—by having her administrative stay expire 48 hours after the First Circuit rules. Of course, the full Court can extend the administrative stay (and Jackson can do it herself). But this way, at least, she’s putting pressure on everyone—the First Circuit and the full Court—to move very quickly in deciding whether or not Judge McConnell’s orders should be allowed to go into effect. From where I’m sitting, that’s why Justice Jackson, the most vocal (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/189-the-breezy-inequity-of-trump)critic (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/189-the-breezy-inequity-of-trump) among the justices of the Court’s behavior in Trump-related emergency applications (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/189-the-breezy-inequity-of-trump), ruled herself here—rather than allowing the full Court to overrule her. It drastically increases the odds of the full Supreme Court resolving this issue by the end of next week—one way or the other.
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/190-snap-wtf

[Winehole23]

not paying or feeding soldiers is an interesting choice



Some military leaders are telling their troops to prepare for their on-base commissaries to close by early December if the government shutdown continues. As many as 168 locations at bases across the continental U.S. could be affected.


But officials with the agency that runs the military-only grocery stores insisted to Task & Purpose this week that the stores will be open through Thanksgiving.

“Our stores will be open to serve our customers through Thanksgiving,” Kevin Robinson, a spokesperson for the Defense Commissary Agency, or DECA, told Task & Purpose.


While DECA officials have been planning for the closures since at least last month, military leaders began telling troops this week to plan for December closings. Task & Purpose obtained two emails sent this week by leaders of two large military units that advised troops that DECA is likely to begin cutting back on restocking inventory at the military-only base grocery stores on Nov. 14, with plans to close nearly all stores in the U.S. by Dec. 3. Both emails cited updates the leaders received earlier this week from DECA.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/commissaries-military-could-close-shutdown/

[Winehole23]

interesting timing

Trump is gonna get booed



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[Winehole23]

historical background

in principle the current guidance could be fixed with another OLC opinion


Government shutdowns aren’t required by the Constitution or any Supreme Court ruling. They arose from a Justice Department memo that reinterpreted the Antideficiency Act—a 19th-century law that limits obligations without appropriations—nearly a century after the legislation was enacted.

Before 1980, shutdowns didn’t happen. When funding gaps occurred, federal agencies kept operating. The understanding was straightforward: Congress would eventually pass the funding, everyone would get paid, and life would go on. Budget negotiations did not routinely devolve into national crises.

Then came the memo. In 1980, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel issued a new interpretation of the Antideficiency Act. Beginning with Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti, the OLC concluded that this old statute required most government operations to cease the moment appropriations lapsed. OLC lawyers offered their opinion on how things should work and everyone just sort of went along with it.
https://data4democracy.substack.com/p/why-americas-government-shutdowns

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

Wine ho bitch slapped again by a democrat supreme court justice no less....lmao.

Supreme Court issues emergency order to block full SNAP food aid payments (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-issues-emergency-order-to-block-full-snap-food-aid-payments/ar-AA1Q0HYq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=690ed2b7bbf848099fdb1bb094b1873a&ei=11)

Do you really like America being like this?

[Winehole23]

20 work days in 19 weeks

the do-nothing 119th Congress continues to fail

[Winehole23]

lol

USDA clawing back November SNAP benefits after promising they would be paid on Friday -- the full-court press on relief to needy Americans just before Thanksgiving is back on

But in many states, the money has already gone out



The Trump administration told states that they must “immediately undo” any actions to provide full food stamp benefits to low-income families, in a move that added to the chaos and uncertainty surrounding the nation’s largest anti-hunger program during the government shutdown.


The Agriculture Department issued the command in a late-night Saturday memo, viewed later by The New York Times. That guidance threatened to impose financial penalties on states that did not “comply” quickly with the government’s new orders.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/09/business/trump-administration-states-undo-full-snap-food-stamps.html

[Winehole23]

being a Republican apparently means never admitting you lost the battle and doubling down on the L -- every time

[Winehole23]

"we cut waste and got rid of the woke"

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[DMX7]

Whatever concessions the Democrats get out of this government won't be worth the damage already done.

[Winehole23]

Whatever concessions the Democrats get out of this government won't be worth the damage already done.agree 100%

there's no doubt Republicans will continue to f*ck things up massively

[Winehole23]

"we will continue to shoot American hostages until our demands are met"

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIF. Nf%252ba36MXRlWnKzvq%252bV7Ybw%26cb%3Ducfimg2%26pi d%3DApi%26ucfimg%3D1&f=1&ipt=231494c57d7667db3ce2c061209d016c32a6f864a16310 13200f9749ae12e22b&ipo=images


We have a number of people who want to get home for the holidays, they want to see their family. Listen, many of them are not going to be able to get on an airplane.

[Winehole23]

hunger games Republican governance


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Schumer to the rescue for Republicans, if this actually happens


Senate Democrats on Sunday indicated they are ready to advance a package of bills that could end the government shutdown (https://www.axios.com/2025/11/05/government-shutdown-length-days-record-trump), multiple sources told Axios.



Why it matters: It is the most significant movement toward a bipartisan breakthrough in the talks to re-open the government in over a month.


At least 10 Senate Democrats are expected to support a procedural motion to advance a package of spending bills and a short term funding measure, multiple sources from both parties told Axios.

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/09/deal-to-end-government-shutdown-in-reach

[Winehole23]

Axios got this wrong two days ago, so

[Winehole23]

Trumpy media trying hard to manifest the W



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[Winehole23]

"finger in the wind"

looks like Dems may cave, but a 2 month CR puts us roughly back in the same place on Jan 31

[Winehole23]

(morally right, politically dumb)

[Winehole23]

pretty much all the outlets reporting now


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

(it will be hilarious if the Senate gets to 60 and the House Freedom Caucus sinks the deal because they hate the RIF backtrack)

[Millennial_Messiah]

Let this shit end today and bitcoin to finally hit 180K+ as it should have by now

[Winehole23]

Let this shit end today and bitcoin to finally hit 180K+ as it should have by nowtoday's just a procedural vote

from what I've heard, it'll take about 8 days to reopen, assuming no setbacks