***Official 2014-2015 Houston Texans thread***

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao dude with the browns colt mccoy jersey

[FkLA]

gay

[Clipper Nation]

Is FkLA really going to whine after every pick that isn't Johnny Inbred? :lol

[FkLA]

Who is this scrub who couldn't hold Football's jockstrap even if he tried? Never heard of him tbh.

[benefactor]

Great draft. I'm excited for the season.

[spurraider21]

Be glad that this thread is no longer about manziel

[spurraider21]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap2000000349800/Texans-beat-writer-eats-newspaper

:rollin

[benefactor]

I'm surprised that fat shit didn't just go ahead and eat a whole stack of them.

[benefactor]

Dre' talking like he wants out.


“Nobody’s been here as long as I have. You just kind of look at things; I’ve been thinking about things this offseason,” Johnson said. “And I just kind of wonder sometimes, ‘Is this still the place for me?’ ”

“When you bring a new coach in, you go through a rebuilding process,” Johnson said. “Some people say it’s not. Some people say it’s a quick fix. Everybody has their own opinion. But I’ve been through the situation more than once.”

“I just look at my career. … I’ve only been to the playoffs twice. I think we’ve only had three winning seasons,” said Johnson, who at least twice last season expressed his frustration on the field during games. “I don’t think any player wants to experience that. I think over time it can become very frustrating. And this offseason has been very frustrating for me; beginning of the offseason, I should say. That’s just kind of where I’m at right now.”

“I’m just taking some time, thinking about some things,” Johnson said. “You know, when I make my decision I’ll make my decision and go from there.”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/frustrated-andre-johnson-wonders-is-this-still-the-place-for-me/#1569101=0&23243101=0&23243103=0

:cry Dre' pls :cry:cry:cry

[Kawhi]

He'll be traded to the Bengals imo

[Kyle Orton]

Can't wait to play y'all week one tbh, gonna see how our newly assembled large offensive line will hold up against your front 7

[djohn2oo8]

Dre' talking like he wants out.



http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/frustrated-andre-johnson-wonders-is-this-still-the-place-for-me/#1569101=0&23243101=0&23243103=0

:cry Dre' pls :cry:cry:cry
Can't blame him. But he could have handled it better than that.

[djohn2oo8]

Can't wait to play y'all week one tbh, gonna see how our newly assembled large offensive line will hold up against your front 7
My nigga Clowney going to go for about 8 sacks and 12 pass deflections.#Dreaming.

[benefactor]

Rumors now swirling that Dre' might retire. If he truly wants out, that's probably his best option. As great as he is, it will be hard to accomodate him with a trade to a winning team with his contract.

[djohn2oo8]

Rumors now swirling that Dre' might retire. If he truly wants out, that's probably his best option. As great as he is, it will be hard to accomodate him with a trade to a winning team with his contract.

He needs to give the new coaching staff a chance, sure he sees there's no surefire QB, but they aren't really rebuilding either. And he was denied a new contract, I'm sure that pissed him off. He can either show up, or retire. But he won't leave the money on the table.

[The Batman]

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5342--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[The Batman]

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/temp_BB21808--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[The Batman]

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5316--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[The Batman]

http://prod.images.texans.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/TEXANS/assets/images/imported/HOU/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempDSC_5367--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

[The Batman]

Open locker room today for rookie camp. Rookies don't get real lockers until they make the roster. Not even the first overall pick. #Texans



"Coach O'Brien knows what's he's doing. The meetings we've had have been intense," new #Texans TE CJ Fiedorowicz
12:17 PM - 16 May 2014



Seeing Jadeveon Clowney move is a sight to see. He ran down Alfred Blue on a swing pass where Blue had a 5 yard head start. #Texans

[The Batman]

Quote:


It's easy to see why Tom Savage was well liked by the #Texans. Live arm. Velocity is unmatched by any QB on the roster.

[benefactor]

467425366140018689

:hungry:

[Chinook]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap2000000349800/Texans-beat-writer-eats-newspaper

:rollin

Holy crap, was he planning on eating the rest of that food in addition to the paper? That's absurd.

[Chinook]

I'm hoping Savage ends up being a great quarterback. It's not just that the Texans are a team I want to see succeed, but I'd love for more teams to start drafting quarterbacks later and developing them instead of taking them in the first and giving them the keys to the franchise without them having to prove it.

[DD]

467425366140018689

:hungry:
Female opinion, guard that optimism imo

[spurraider21]

why is this news :lol. the only thing anybody has ever heard about Tom Savage was that he had a strong arm. his entire scouting report is basically "has very little experience, very raw, but is tall and has a very strong arm"

[benefactor]

I'll take what optimism I can with all the noodle arms we've had in Houston.:lol

I don't expect much this year. At least he has a chance to ride the bench and learn from det Amish Rifle.

[The Batman]

why is this news :lol. the only thing anybody has ever heard about Tom Savage was that he had a strong arm. his entire scouting report is basically "has very little experience, very raw, but is tall and has a very strong arm"

All Savage has to do is get his game manager on like Wilson.

[spurraider21]

All Savage has to do is get his game manager on like Wilson.
if he can manage with a 100qb rating with a 2.7/1 TD/INT ratio, i'm sure houston will be solid too

[weebo]

...anything better than schaub

[benefactor]

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[spurraider21]

yeah, the raiders took a huge cap hit with the carson palmer trade. iirc all bonus money gets accelerated. the new team only pays base salaries

[benefactor]

First, the Texans are primed for an immediate comeback toward the middle of the NFL pack, even if the combination of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tom Savage they’ll run out at quarterback might preclude them from being a playoff contender. Virtually every metric I can find suggests they were an underrated and unlucky team last year, and that’s without considering how they repeatedly juggled quarterbacks and quit on their coach. With even average luck next year, Houston should be a 7-9 or 8-8 team. And if it has a few bounces break its way — picture Jadeveon Clowney and J.J. Watt wishboning Andrew Luck — the Texans could very well be next year’s surprise playoff team. Washington and Atlanta were also among 2013’s more unlucky teams.

http://grantland.com/features/nfl-stats-predicting-success/

[benefactor]

Fitzmagic named the starter...Yates released. Yates should get a job pretty quick. He's a decent backup for a team with trash behind the starter.

[jeebus]

:cry I don't know who to root for next year. So many great QBs out there. I'm gonna have to research this tbh.

[jeebus]

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB

Schaub in Oakland
Fitzmagic in Houston
Homo Romo and FNC in Dallas
The Trifecta of Winning in Washington

Who to choose...

[FkLA]

Amish Rifle as your starter and Clowneys lazy ass is already faking injuries, and all you guys are worried about is what Football is up to in his offseason. :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

clearly tanking for jameis or mariota :lol

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

:smokin

[leemajors]

Amish Rifle as your starter and Clowneys lazy ass is already faking injuries, and all you guys are worried about is what Football is up to in his offseason. :lol

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Xfo69KO9--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/771085679316730146.png

[jeebus]

:smokin
Agreed.

[rogues]

:lol Why is Texan fan so excited about football season when the Colts are going to win the division again?

[benefactor]

So Yates didn't get released after all. Houston traded him to Atlanta for LB Akeem Dent...who I know absolutely nothing about. Even if he sucks and gets cut, props to Rick Smith for getting something for Yates instead of just dumping him...especially a veteran LB as Houston needs depth at the position.

[rogues]

So Yates didn't get released after all. Houston traded him to Atlanta for LB Akeem Dent...who I know absolutely nothing about. Even if he sucks and gets cut, props to Rick Smith for getting something for Yates instead of just dumping him...especially a veteran LB as Houston needs depth at the position.
:lol Nobody cares about Texan transactions. They are not gonna get the team anywhere. They will always be shit.

[benefactor]

Brooks Reed officially makes the transition to ILB. Good move. He plays the run and seals the edge well. Should be a great fit beside Cushing.

[djohn2oo8]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10540854_10152278673731314_2226371236106985805_n.j pg

yessir

[weebo]

Get this shit started.

[djohn2oo8]

lots of players cramping up obviously.

[djohn2oo8]

AdamWexlerCSN ‏@awexler
Quote:


Andre Johnson asked if he liked O'Brien being loud, "I love it. It's great. I think it was something needed around here."

[djohn2oo8]

Post practice interviews/notes:
Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
Quote:


"He's a bright guy, he's an extremely talented football player, and he'll be ready to go when it's time to go." -O'Brien on Andre Johnson.

"Every position on this team, both coach and player, will be EARNED." -O'Brien

O'Brien: "We have a strong belief in how to win. We all do. We need to try to get better every single day."

"The intensity and competitiveness was good. The sharpness is something we have to work oncontinuously." -O'Brien on 1st Training Camp

Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith
Quote:


#Texans' Jadeveon Clowney said he is "limited" right now. "I don’t know the percentage but I know I ain’t 100 percent." #NFL

#Texans' O'Brien makes it clear he's big on veterans. Game/NFL experience can't be recreated. #NFL

With all #Texans who ran passing conditioning test, O'Brien said team is in good overall physical shape at this point.

#Texans will begin hitting Monday. Team will be using full contact "quite a bit" this offseason, O'Brien said.

#Texans had a full team meeting Friday to open camp. About 200 people involved, O'Brien said. #NFL

#Texans on schedule but "light years" away from being ready for #Redskins in Week 1, O'Brien said.

#Texans' Jadeveon Clowney is still rehabbing and being restricted. Can practice, though. #NFL

#Texans' O'Brien: "The fans in Houston are awesome. It's a football town. It's a football state." #NFL

All Texans who ran conditioning test passed it, O'Brien said. #NFL



AdamWexlerCSN ‏@awexler
Quote:


Andre Johnson asked if he liked O'Brien being loud, "I love it. It's great. I think it was something needed around here."



Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Quote:


EZ on the jugs machine after a very solid day. Added muscle and great at finding weak spot in the zone.

Andre Johnson "First time I looked at the playbook, I said WOW!" #TexansTC



Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Quote:


O'Brien says team is conditioned but not for full pads/full contact. Will focus on that the first few days of camp. #Texans

O'Brien says Brandon Brooks is working hard to get back on the field. Doesn't discuss reason for Non-football injury list designation.



Drew Dougherty ‏@DoughertyDrew
Quote:


O'Brien said he talked a lot w/Andre Johnson over last 6 months about #Texans new offensive concepts.



Dale Robertson ‏@sportywineguy
Quote:


Cramps were a problem for several players, including D. J. Swearinger. He said he had 2 IVs before practice and still had problems.

Fitzpatrick had his full family in attendance, wife and four very young kids. He introduced them to Case Keenum before he met w/media.

'Dre said he felt fine today. Had a set number of plays to run and all went well. He looked like his old self to me, not an old self.

'Dre and Fitzy made very nice after practice. 'Dre: "I really like him." Fitzy: "I've always admired him from afar."



PDS ‏@PatDStat
Quote:


C.J. Fiedorowicz said a "Mid west boy" didn't realize the heat was this serious in Houston. #Texans




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[djohn2oo8]

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/First-Look-Highlights-Day-1/da1e6daa-84a0-4024-a68c-1b5d6732f866

[benefactor]

A reminder of how Cushing turns this defense from average/below average to dominant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n-4yDoXazo

Please come back strong. Please stay healthy.

[djohn2oo8]

A reminder of how Cushing turns this defense from average/below average to dominant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n-4yDoXazo

Please come back strong. Please stay healthy.

He looks plenty strong and juiced :lol
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[djohn2oo8]

http://i58.tinypic.com/10ngoed.gif
benefactor, weebo, shyne, @Dr.Gonzo

[djohn2oo8]

:wow

[benefactor]

He and Watt...sweet baby Jesus.

[weebo]

http://i58.tinypic.com/10ngoed.gif
benefactor, weebo, shyne, @Dr.Gonzo

I just busted a nut.

[djohn2oo8]

He and Watt...sweet baby Jesus.
#PrayForAndrewLuck

[Raven]

damn

[djohn2oo8]

Saw this quote on a Texans board


Jadeveon Clowney is living in the backfield... again. Looking for confirmation of reports of JD "camping out" with the QBs, "filling out his grocery list" back there. Defense > offense.

[Spur-Addict]

But, but, Johnny Footballs :cry

[benefactor]

Yeah...all the reports are saying the defense has looked much better than the offense early on, but that has to be the theme for the Texans to do anything this season anyway.

[FkLA]

Unless it's an elite offense or a historically bad defense, most defenses are ahead of the offense this early in camp.

:cry but it must be the clowney effect :cry

[spurraider21]

Unless it's an elite offense or a historically bad defense, most defenses are ahead of the offense this early in camp.

:cry but it must be the clowney effect :cry
its probably more of a "Ryan Fitzpatrick is your #1 QB" effect than anything. that and Houston's front 7 is overall pretty stout and is the strength of their roster

[FkLA]

its probably more of a "Ryan Fitzpatrick is your #1 QB" effect than anything. that and Houston's front 7 is overall pretty stout and is the strength of their roster

Exactly. Yet you'd think Clown had transformed that defense into a monster from reading some of the posts here.

[benefactor]

Well...seeings how he's lined up on the same front as the best defensive lineman in football, he kinda does.

[FkLA]

:lol it's training camp brah

First week in full pads. Facing an offense that has Fitzpatrick as their signal caller. Atleast give it some time before busting a nut.

[weebo]

:lol it's training camp brah

First week in full pads. Facing an offense that has Fitzpatrick as their signal caller. Atleast give it some time before busting a nut.

Nut busted. How do you suppose offenses will stop a combination of JJ and JDC? Add a juiced up Cushing to the mix and the Texans are poised to lead the league in sacks this year. I just hope that by the time week 11 rolls around Foozeball is under center for the brownies...can't wait to see both JJ and JDC wreck ass on that overrated piece of shit crush of yours.

[benefactor]

Atleast give it some time before busting a nut.
This is painfully ironic coming from you.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol it's training camp brah

First week in full pads. Facing an offense that has Fitzpatrick as their signal caller. Atleast give it some time before busting a nut.
:lol Clowney dominating
:lol Inbred snorting coke, throwing picks, and holding the clipboard behind Hoyer
:lol Bitter much?

[Spur-Addict]

:lol Clowney dominating
:lol Inbred snorting coke, throwing picks, and holding the clipboard behind Hoyer
:lol Bitter much?

"I'm 21, I have the right to go out and party :cry"

[FkLA]

Nut busted. How do you suppose offenses will stop a combination of JJ and JDC? Add a juiced up Cushing to the mix and the Texans are poised to lead the league in sacks this year. I just hope that by the time week 11 rolls around Foozeball is under center for the brownies...can't wait to see both JJ and JDC wreck ass on that overrated piece of shit crush of yours.

You should worry about Cushing staying healthy and Clown not getting any boo boos, not about Football.


This is painfully ironic coming from you.:lol

Yeah, bc I always blow my load during training camp. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
Quote:


Then a near-Keo INT after happy feet.

Keenum follows by holding on to ball too long, throwing wildly out of bounds.

Fitz sharply threads a short-yardage red-zone TD to Hopkins. #Texans

Next play is a sweet spin, stand-up tackle by Clowney.

Watt, Clowney lined up side by side. #Texans

#Texans have refs today. First time during camp.

[djohn2oo8]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Quote:


Clowney just destroyed Duane Brown!! More on the show later. [790AM 2-6PM today]

[djohn2oo8]

Clowney and Fiedorowicz with an edge battle. Clowney makes the play on Grimes. #Texans

[benefactor]

Nvm

[FkLA]

Nvm


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rZxKilLVYk4/Tzp5FHku2yI/AAAAAAAAAyU/g_k73uauybI/s1600/jaguars-fan-confused-wtf.gif

[Robz4000]

Heard Clowney had to be carted off the field today due to a right leg injury. Anyone know how bad it was?

[djohn2oo8]

Heard Clowney had to be carted off the field today due to a right leg injury. Anyone know how bad it was?

Didn't appear to be serious

[djohn2oo8]

bq1O9iQ2-60

[benefactor]

Heard Clowney had to be carted off the field today due to a right leg injury. Anyone know how bad it was?
O'Brien said in the presser afterwards it was nothing.

[spurraider21]

clowney looked good when attacking, but they're literally wasting a season with their qb situation

[Holden_Caulfield]

clowney looked good when attacking, but they're literally wasting a season with their qb situation
they couldve gotten bortles :lol, who exceeded my expectations :worthy:

[Raven]

clowney looked good when attacking, but they're literally wasting a season with their qb situation

imo it would have been retarded to draft a qb at #1 when the oline is bottom 3 worthy.. it is pretty stupid to have clowney as a linebacker too though..

[Clipper Nation]

clowney looked good when attacking, but they're literally wasting a season with their qb situation
Texans need Kellen Football, tbh....

[spurraider21]

imo it would have been retarded to draft a qb at #1 when the oline is bottom 3 worthy.. it is pretty stupid to have clowney as a linebacker too though..
not suggesting they should have gone QB #1, but they shouldn't have decided to go into the 2014 season without a starting QB on the roster either.

[Avante]

You simply can't pass a guy like Clowney up. He has the potential to be a real difference maker.

[spurraider21]

i never said they should pass up clowney :lol... why is this being discussed

[Raven]

not suggesting they should have gone QB #1, but they shouldn't have decided to go into the 2014 season without a starting QB on the roster either.

let's face the truth, even if you put peyton or brady to the texans, they wouldn't win shit, with that oline you're not going anywhere, and sending a young qb to get destroyed in his first year, is not really the best course of action. i didn't like them going with TE in the third round, that should have been a qb or another lineman imo.

[Avante]

i never said they should pass up clowney :lol... why is this being discussed

Sorry. I wasn't talking to you. Just giving an opinion on taking a guy who will make a difference right now, something a rookie QB won't do, usually.

[DesignatedT]

Should have taken Manziel. Lol McNair lol obrien

Epic fail

[manufan10]

Do you think the Texans will try to trade for a QB or are they content with Fitz and buy some time until Savage takes over?

[spurraider21]

they're banking on Fitz looking better with Andre Johnson and Arian Foster, valid

[djohn2oo8]

Should have taken Manziel. Lol McNair lol obrien

Epic fail


Yeah, take a junglemonkey run first QB who won't last 5 full years in the NFL over a freak of nature DE who dominated niggas last night :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Keenum looked good last night in the limited snaps, he's getting the ball out quicker. I think after last night he has a good chance of winning the job if Shitzpatrick plays like that again.

[FkLA]

:lmao 'dominated niggas'

Where's the gif of the TE blowing right by him for an easy TD? But but he's a freak of nature. :cry

[weebo]

:lmao 'dominated niggas'

Where's the gif of the TE blowing right by him for an easy TD? But but he's a freak of nature. :cry

Clowney had a mediocre showing at best...like foozeball

[FkLA]

:lol No. Football wasn't spectacular but he was far from mediocre like the lazy Clown.

[djohn2oo8]

Clowney had a mediocre showing at best...like foozeball

I don't think you payed attention to the details. Clowney was blowing past Offensive lineman up until he was taken out. He got into the backfield pretty quick, and the wheel route was the only bad play. Put Nix, Joseph, and Cushing in the lineup, the defense will dominate.

http://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpy8ojMW4GdVbxe/giphy.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BupCK2VIUAAAzG1.png

[FkLA]

Jesus christ you are a homer, dumbjohn. That gif and still of the exact same play (on a TE not even an olineman) really proves he 'dominated niggas'. :rollin

[weebo]

I don't think you payed attention to the details. Clowney was blowing past Offensive lineman up until he was taken out. He got into the backfield pretty quick, and the wheel route was the only bad play. Put Nix, Joseph, and Cushing in the lineup, the defense will dominate.

http://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpy8ojMW4GdVbxe/giphy.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BupCK2VIUAAAzG1.png


He was also shit on pass coverage and taking himself out of the play by overrunning it...to be fair though, it's first pre season game. Once he develops a swim/spin move and plays better coverage, he'll be a stout defender.

[benefactor]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/08/Fitzpatrick.gif

:smokin...mein neger.

[benefactor]

Brandon Brooks has passed his physical and has been added to the active roster. Great news.

[weebo]

JJ, Foster, Johnson, and Cushing also active.

[benefactor]

:lol not thinking about an extension for Watt...what horrible take. He's basically their franchise player right now. He will be extended before the season is over.
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:wakeup

[benefactor]

Nice write up on Fiedorowicz and Prosch. Both show a lot of potential as dominant run blockers.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/8/19/6046159/rookie-review-fiedorowicz-prosch-pave-the-way-for-dominant-run-game

[DD]

imma hafta say Clowney is more missed than JFF on their respective college teams right now

[benefactor]

Seems legit

[MeloHype]

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[Chinook]

Just saw it was for a sixth-rounder.

:lol at people thinking the Patriots were going to get a high pick for him. Same with Cousins.

[spurraider21]

Patriots with a power move tho. Everybody knew they wanted to dump mallet. Dumbass Houston waited for camp to end when he probably would have been their starter if they got him earlier.

[DD]

I like the move, and would love to see him succeed tbh. He's already better than the starter--can't ask for a better situation to walk into imo. The team is stacked with talent on both sides, and he'll have no pressure being the b/u and all. Also, with all his years sitting, it won't take more than 8 games to find out if he's a legit starter or not.

[Chinook]

Patriots with a power move tho. Everybody knew they wanted to dump mallet. Dumbass Houston waited for camp to end when he probably would have been their starter if they got him earlier.

Probably wouldn't have been able to get him for essentially Schaub, then. They needed to wait New England out to drop his value.

[spurraider21]

Probably wouldn't have been able to get him for essentially Schaub, then. They needed to wait New England out to drop his value.
Just read it was for a conditional 7th. Looks good but it's still essentially a wasted year with him

[monosylab1k]

:cry The Mallett Era

[monosylab1k]

That short guinea better be the second coming now that Mallett is gone :cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Just read it was for a conditional 7th. Looks good but it's still essentially a wasted year with him

Meh. They used a 3rd rounder on Mallett, sat him on the bench for 3 years, then traded him for a 6th rounder.

Classic case of Belichick playing mind games with himself while everyone refers to him as a :cry draft day genius :cry

[spurraider21]

Meh. They used a 3rd rounder on Mallett, sat him on the bench for 3 years, then traded him for a 6th rounder.

Classic case of Belichick playing mind games with himself while everyone refers to him as a :cry draft day genius :cry
In the meantime he was an insurance policy, just like garoppolo or osweiler. I thought he could have gotten more than a 7th though

[weebo]

Not terribly excited but not down in the dumps about it either. Texans lose a 7th round conditional pick in 2016 for a guy drafted in the 3rd round that spent the better part of 3 years under the tutelage of BB/Brady. What all this really means is, Keenum's days as a Texan are over and butt-chin O'Brien gets a backup QB who is neither worse or better than the starter.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I've never understood that "insurance policy" argument. If Brady went down at any time in the last 3 years, the Patriots would have had no shot at a superbowl, whether it was Ryan Mallett or Avante at QB.

They also had Brian Hoyer before they drafted Mallett.

[spurraider21]

I've never understood that "insurance policy" argument. If Brady went down at any time in the last 3 years, the Patriots would have had no shot at a superbowl, whether it was Ryan Mallett or Avante at QB.

They also had Brian Hoyer before they drafted Mallett.
Well yeah if it's season ending, you could say that for any team and backup qb's would be worthless. But if you need a guy to step in and go 2-2 in a stretch and hold the fort, it's better to have a guy you've trained than to pick up some random FA veteran

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think Brian Hoyer was more than capable of going 2-2.

Certainly the difference between Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett for a 3 year period wasn't worth a 3rd round pick.

[weebo]

I've never understood that "insurance policy" argument. If Brady went down at any time in the last 3 years, the Patriots would have had no shot at a superbowl, whether it was Ryan Mallett or Avante at QB.

They also had Brian Hoyer before they drafted Mallett.

Insurance policies are for teams with mediocre to good starting QB's with stout defenses and good special teams. Teams with elite QB's don't have the luxury of adding a back up as an insurance policy because no back up QB can live up to an elite QB's play/leadership skill.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Insurance policies are for teams with mediocre to good starting QB's with stout defenses and good special teams. Teams with elite QB's don't have the luxury of adding a back up as an insurance policy because no back up QB can live up to an elite QB's play/leadership skill.

That was my point. No team as reliant on its QB as New England is ever going to have an insurance policy at backup QB.

[spurraider21]

I think Brian Hoyer was more than capable of going 2-2.

Certainly the difference between Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett for a 3 year period wasn't worth a 3rd round pick.
that's a fair point. they obviously were hoping to parlay Mallet into a higher pick than what they got, but he didnt have strong preseasons

[benefactor]

Keenum and all of his Coog fan boys are gone. That's worth it even if Mallett winds up never playing a down.

[djohn2oo8]

Does Mallet have any upside at all? He can't be worse than Fitzmagic.

[Kyle Orton]

Can't wait till next Sunday texans fans...start of a long season for both our teams. Let's hope gruden kept the real offense hidden like what happened opening game vs the saints in 2012

[Pelicans78]

Mallet is terrible. About as chimp brain as you can get for a QB.

He was overrated in college. Fact is, Arkansas became much better once Tyler Wilson became the QB and he couldn't last in this league.

Mallet always has sucked in the preseason and I'm not convinced he will be a better backup than Keenum. He's certainly not better than Fitzpatrick.

[mojorizen7]

Question for the Texans guru's:
Rams just claimed Keenum on waivers to likely be the #2 or #3 QB. Can this kid be developed? He looked pretty good early last season despite the 14 gm avalanche of losing.

Obviously the Texans like Mallet > Keenum, but give me the straight word on this kid.:toast

[benefactor]

Question for the Texans guru's:
Rams just claimed Keenum on waivers to likely be the #2 or #3 QB. Can this kid be developed? He looked pretty good early last season despite the 14 gm avalanche of losing.

Obviously the Texans like Mallet > Keenum, but give me the straight word on this kid.:toast
Keenum has a little bit of play making ability on the run but you put him in the pocket and he has two glaring, damning deficiencies...he can feel the pass rush coming and he can't read a defense. He's the prototypical spread QB that never really learned how to play the position correctly in college.

[mojorizen7]

Keenum has a little bit of play making ability on the run but you put him in the pocket and he has two glaring, damning deficiencies...he can feel the pass rush coming and he can't read a defense. He's the prototypical spread QB that never really learned how to play the position correctly in college.
Gotcha. Thanks for the input. Sounds like there's some upside with good coaching and patience.

[spurraider21]

Gotcha. Thanks for the input. Sounds like there's some upside with good coaching and patience.
he definitely has a gunslinger mentality. u'll never be mad that he's too passive, though of course that's not always a good thing

[weebo]

Gotcha. Thanks for the input. Sounds like there's some upside with good coaching and patience.

A pocket passer he's not, but to be fair the Texan's OLine is shit. If Fischer can get him out of the pocket or at the very least buying some time, he can make plays down field.

[spurraider21]

Texans and JJ Watt agree to massive 6 year, 100 million dollar extension, 52 mil guaranteed

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/02/report-j-j-watt-texans-agree-to-long-term-extension/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

[benefactor]

:cry they aren't even thinking about an extension :cry

[benefactor]

Most overall and guaranteed money for a defensive player in NFL history.

Worth every penny.

[Chinook]

Most overall and guaranteed money for a defensive player in NFL history.

Worth every penny.

Guess they're cutting Clowney now, since they obviously can't afford to pay both...

[djohn2oo8]

Guess they're cutting Clowney now, since they obviously can't afford to pay both...

:lmao seems like yesterday FKLA posted that take

[benefactor]

Guess they're cutting Clowney now, since they obviously can't afford to pay both...
:lol

That whole exchange was classic Fkla comedy.

[Chinook]

:lmao seems like yesterday FKLA posted that take


:lol

That whole exchange was classic Fkla comedy.

Just went through and read it again. Thought this post was worth a bump:


facepalm

Once again...talking to you about anything is impossible. All you do is change the shit you say in mid debate. Every fucking time.

None of this matters. Houston will draft Clowney and you will follow Fagball to whatever team drafts him and watch him fail on that team spectacularly. I guess the only good in all of this is it will be fun bumping all of these threads a few seasons from now.

[spurraider21]

O'Brien put in work with Matt Mcgloin. I think him and Teddy would work out more than him and Manziel. Plus I want Clowney no where near the team. And the Texans must take a QB.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

[spurraider21]

ok now release schaub so we can get our stopgap pls


Not yet, we must rob you niggas of a draft pick :lol


:lol i dont think we're ever gna trade a pick for a stopgap after the Flynn disaster. reggie would rather sign Freeman than deal for Schaub
:depressed

[djohn2oo8]

^:lol

[FkLA]

lol Clowney

[benefactor]

MCL sprain. He'll be ok.

[spurraider21]

MCL sprain. He'll be ok.
let him be OK for week 3 tbh :lol

[benefactor]

let him be OK for week 3 tbh :lol
:lol

That whole front 7 is beasting right now tbh. Crennel's system even gave Brooks Reed new life. Watt isn't even human right now.

[FkLA]

He's a soft pussy. What is this like his third boo boo already?

Funny since Texans fans mentioned Football's supposed inability to stay healthy as a reason why he wasn't worth it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol

That whole front 7 is beasting right now tbh. Crennel's system even gave Brooks Reed new life. Watt isn't even human right now.

Wait, yall got Crennel? Nice tbh.

[benefactor]

508753184769077249

Well shit. Let's hope Schefter is wrong and the other reports are right.

[Clipper Nation]

He's a soft pussy. What is this like his third boo boo already?

Funny since Texans fans mentioned Football's supposed inability to stay healthy as a reason why he wasn't worth it.
It could be worse, he could be unable to get off the bench for the Cleveland fucking Browns :lol

[benefactor]

Wait, yall got Crennel? Nice tbh.
Indeed. Secondary still a work in progress but the rest looks great so far.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Can't believe how stubborn Belichick is. He's had the opportunity to rehire Weis and Crennel in recent years but shat on it every time.

[FkLA]

508753184769077249

Well shit. Let's hope Schefter is wrong and the other reports are right.

lol

[benefactor]

Trying to find Manziel's stat line for the game today. You mind linking it for me? Thanks.

[spurraider21]

Trying to find Manziel's stat line for the game today. You mind linking it for me? Thanks.
Intact MCL's: 2

:lol

[benefactor]

Intact MCL's: 2

:lol
Hard to believe, tbh. Clipboard holding if hard as fuck on the knees.:lol

[benefactor]

Looking like it is indeed a meniscus. Out 4-6 weeks.

[benefactor]

508761251095539712

[AchillesHeel]

:lol

[Bill_Brasky]

Intact MCL's: 2

:lol

thats fucked up :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Until he overdoses


Intact MCL's: 2

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Defense looked great with Clowney in there, they looked good without him too thanks to Crennel, he sure knows how to confuse the QB. Hopefully its only 4 weeks he is out, if Brooks Reed can replicate his play today and Louis Nix can get in the lineup they should be good.

[spurraider21]

oakland somehow always plays houston well

[djohn2oo8]

Indeed. And you can bet there will be some kind of Carr Karma in that game.


oakland somehow always plays houston well

[djohn2oo8]

Foster looked good though. Looked like Foster of old.

[djohn2oo8]

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/09/andre-johnson-passes-art-monk-on-all-time-receiving-yardage-list/#26516101=0

[Kyle Orton]

GG skins fucked themselves a couple times with the fumbles and the shitty special teams. The right side of our line is fucking shit and the swearinger safety blitzes fucked us as well

thought Trent did a great job on Clowney, didn't really notice him. Watt on the other hand abused our guard and rt. Felt like the skins had a great opportunity to win this game. Didn't make many downfield plays but it seemed like Houston was giving us the underneath shit. Classic skins tho

[benefactor]

509062009221316608

Better of the two meniscus outcomes. Get well soon, young man.

[weebo]

WTF?? Is this guy made out of shit or what? Already breaking down after one training camp and half a game of football.

[benefactor]

WTF?? Is this guy made out of shit or what? Already breaking down after one training camp and half a game of football.
Was a freak thing tbh...much like Cushing's injuries. Jumped and landed wrong on his leg.

[benefactor]

J.J. Watt

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/wattsack.gif

I hope you enjoyed your nine-month break.

Six days after signing a $100 million deal (with about $51 million guaranteed) that made Watt the richest defensive player ever, he again showed why he’s on his way to maybe being the best defensive player ever. Houston paid Watt like a quarterback because he affects games like a quarterback. In the Texans’ 17-6 win on Sunday, Watt had a sack, would have had another but drew an intentional grounding flag instead, blocked an extra point, recovered a fumble, and spent the afternoon making Robert Griffin–size cartoon imprints in the turf. Depending on the source, Watt hit Griffin five, six, or seven times. It doesn’t really matter. Griffin spent the entire game running for his life.

We don’t get players like Watt very often. I already regret not picking him for defensive player of the year. I guarantee you he knows — not because he reads or listens. He just knows.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nfl-week-1-winners-and-losers-there-will-be-watt/

[spurraider21]

at this point watt is my favorite non-raider player in the NFL, along with Wilson. he's the best defensive lineman i've seen

[djohn2oo8]

There was apparently a big hole in the turf that he stepped in and hurt his meniscus


WTF?? Is this guy made out of shit or what? Already breaking down after one training camp and half a game of football.

[weebo]

There was apparently a big hole in the turf that he stepped in and hurt his meniscus

Just sayin'....hernia, concussion, torn meniscus. jeebussss...the guy has spent more time at the doctor's office than on the field in just his rookie year.

[benefactor]

511503952454905856

http://i.imgur.com/7vo1V7E.png

[spurraider21]

to be fair he got to play the raiders

[Clipper Nation]

511503952454905856

http://i.imgur.com/7vo1V7E.png
Fitzmagic >>>>>>>>>>>> Cum Newton

[Chinook]

509062009221316608

Better of the two meniscus outcomes. Get well soon, young man.

Wait, isn't that the WORSE of the two meniscus outcomes? Usually surgery is a quick fix that ends up having long-term effects, while rest takes longer to start but provides a better healing job. For someone as young and important as Clowney, I wouldn't have even considered surgery, just like the Spurs didn't when Duncan had his meniscus issue in 2000.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/meniscus-repair

http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/8/6121021/clowney-update-meniscus-surgical-options-remove-v-repair

The first link talks about how meniscus injuries are usually addressed. The second link suggests that a 4-6 week recovery means they removed part of it instead of repairing it. That's actually pretty concerning.

Obviously, I know this response is a week late. I just saw it now.

[Raven]

511503952454905856

http://i.imgur.com/7vo1V7E.png

just goes to show how passing rating is a shitty stat

[spurraider21]

Wait, isn't that the WORSE of the two meniscus outcomes? Usually surgery is a quick fix that ends up having long-term effects, while rest takes longer to start but provides a better healing job. For someone as young and important as Clowney, I wouldn't have even considered surgery, just like the Spurs didn't when Duncan had his meniscus issue in 2000.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/meniscus-repair

http://www.battleredblog.com/2014/9/8/6121021/clowney-update-meniscus-surgical-options-remove-v-repair

The first link talks about how meniscus injuries are usually addressed. The second link suggests that a 4-6 week recovery means they removed part of it instead of repairing it. That's actually pretty concerning.

Obviously, I know this response is a week late. I just saw it now.
djohn will be in shortly to explain how you are wrong and it was the right move for the texans

[djohn2oo8]

djohn will be in shortly to explain how you are wrong and it was the right move for the texans

That makes no sense. That what was the right move?

[spurraider21]

That makes no sense. That what was the right move?
:lol just jokin... you usually rush to your teams' defenses like no other

[Chinook]

That makes no sense. That what was the right move?

Probably to shelve him for the season. If they did remove part of the meniscus, this may just be the beginning of his knee issues.

[benefactor]

Yeah...I was speaking from a recovery standpoint for this season and not long term. No one except the doctors know the severity of the tear and how much they had to remove. The hope is they carefully weighed out the pros and cons of both and that they didn't feel the tear was that bad, so they went with the removal thinking he wouldn't have lingering effects.

/optimist

[djohn2oo8]

Andre Johnson needs two catches to move into 13th place on the career receptions list. With five receptions he moves into 12th place and if he gets 13 catches he moves into 11th place.

[benefactor]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a24c9bab104ad6b4fe6bff522a01ea02/tumblr_ml8d7xlsT21qiip6uo1_400.gif

[weebo]

This team is a shitty as it was last year...had it not been for the Redskins turning the ball over in the red zone and the Raiders starting a rookie Qb and sucking so bad this team would be 0-3

[djohn2oo8]

This team is a shitty as it was last year...had it not been for the Redskins turning the ball over in the red zone and the Raiders starting a rookie Qb and sucking so bad this team would be 0-3

No the team as a whole is not as shitty. The quarterback though is a different story.

[Raven]

This team is a shitty as it was last year...had it not been for the Redskins turning the ball over in the red zone and the Raiders starting a rookie Qb and sucking so bad this team would be 0-3

i wouldn't panic too much tbh, of course play offs are pointless at this point, but there is plenty to like about this team for the future.

[djohn2oo8]

i wouldn't panic too much tbh, of course play offs are pointless at this point, but there is plenty to like about this team for the future.

Not having Clowney or Foster hurt. A lot.

[weebo]

Not having Clowney or Foster hurt. A lot.

If you're counting on Foster to be healthy in order for the team to look better, then good luck to that...guy is always hurt. As for Clowney, for all his freakish athleticism his body seems to be made out of shit. Already 3 set backs this year, his rookie year and after one game!

[benefactor]

Nix to IR. 3rd round pick curse continues.

[spurraider21]

Ouch. Iirc Houston was thin at NT

[djohn2oo8]

They signed some Nigga named Ricky Pickett :lol

[spurraider21]

Is that the guy from the packers?

[Raven]

Nix to IR. 3rd round pick curse continues.
He was strongly red flagged, so its not a curse.

[benefactor]

I was talking about the Texans and 3rd round picks. Seems like none of the players they pick in the 3rd ever pan out.

[benefactor]

Ugly...but a win.

3-1

[weebo]

rather win ugly than lose pretty

[djohn2oo8]

Watt is amazing. Clowney coming back should help a lot.

[weebo]

Watt is amazing. Clowney coming back should help a lot.

Watt is a one man wrecking crew. Hopefully Clowney can get healthy soon...its just a matter of time before teams consider triple teaming Watt

[Dr. Gonzo]

My thoughts so far:

That offense suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks dick.

JJ Watt has a penis the size of a tree trunk. He's that much of a man.

This D may be scary good if Clowney quits getting hurt.

I like O'Brien.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

So how confident are yall feeling going up against America's team on sunday

[benefactor]

My thoughts so far:

That offense suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks dick.

JJ Watt has a penis the size of a tree trunk. He's that much of a man.

This D may be scary good if Clowney quits getting hurt.

I like O'Brien.
Sup breh. The offense won't be shit until they find a real QB. I think the play calling has been what it has been to keep Fitz from failing. I don't think I'd call that a plan for success though. I think they are monitoring Savage's progress closely. Kid has a huge arm, just needs to put it together mentally.

Clowney had an interview yesterday that said he was running and would be back "in a few weeks." I fine with them taking their time. I'd like to see him play before the bye though.

[benefactor]

So how confident are yall feeling going up against America's team on sunday
50/50. It seems like either team can have a Jekyll/Hyde moment at any time. If Houston can contain the run and make Romo throw they have a chance. Let Murray go off and they are fucked.

[djohn2oo8]

The line needs to run block better. And Foster needs to stop getting hurt. Also they can't be running him into the ground either. They are going to have to throw the ball.

[spurraider21]

The line needs to run block better. And Foster needs to stop getting hurt. Also they can't be running him into the ground either. They are going to have to throw the ball.
they need to wear him out so your fantasy team can take a loss or two :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Jj watt vs the guy they drafted ahead of him tyron smith will be georgeous. Fuck you jerry

[Bill_Brasky]

Im intrigued by this matchup. Elite o-line vs elite d-line with the best defensive player in football. I know Watt is gonna cause us some trouble. Gotta just remember to keep pounding the run. Lanes will open.

[djohn2oo8]

they need to wear him out so your fantasy team can take a loss or two :lol

:lol I don't have Foster though.

[spurraider21]

:lol I don't have Foster though.
well then nevermind. i just assumed :lol

[djohn2oo8]

well then nevermind. i just assumed :lol

Yeah. Sucks for Holden Caufield :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Jj watt vs the guy they drafted ahead of him tyron smith will be georgeous. Fuck you jerry

Will be interesting to see how many guys they put on Watt.

[BanditHiro]

Jj watt vs the guy they drafted ahead of him tyron smith will be georgeous. Fuck you jerry

i doubt they match up against each other it be pretty dumb of the Texans to move Watt to Tyron's side.

[manufan10]

i doubt they match up against each other it be pretty dumb of the Texans to move Watt to Tyron's side.

God, Doug Free is gonna get Romo killed. :depressed

[spurraider21]

where the fuck is clowney

[benefactor]

where the fuck is clowney
Saying he will be back for the Pittsburgh game.

[chunticakes]

where the fuck is clowney

Clowning around.

[Chinook]

Been meaning to post this for a while. If any folks haven't seen Fitzpatrick's pre-game speech last week, here's a link:

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Cant-Miss-Fitzpatrick-pregame-speech/5f49f918-83a2-491a-97b5-d0cf7b5550d2

That version is funny because they edited out all the cuss words. Pretty decent job if you aren't watching the video.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I love Fitz...he's all heart, no talent. Was an easy guy to root for, tbh

[djohn2oo8]

The Cowboys really have no business losing to Shitzpatrick.

[spurraider21]

NFL Star Buys Pizza for Houston Police and Firefighters (http://freebeacon.com/culture/nfl-star-buy-pizza-for-houston-police-and-firefighters/)
what a hero

[benefactor]

In other news, Mallett tears a pec muscle and is done for the year.

We are Texans.

[benefactor]

539160331512479744

What a weird fucking season.

[benefactor]

Keenum is back.

Fuck everything.

[djohn2oo8]

Still a slim chance at the playoffs. Who would have thought after 2-14

[weebo]

Still a slim chance at the playoffs. Who would have thought after 2-14

Just stop already. The Texans aren't going anywhere but home after next week.

[djohn2oo8]

Just stop already. The Texans aren't going anywhere but home after next week.

If Baltimore and San Diego lose next week, you can log off for a while. They are playing a meaningful game in week 17 with no QB all year, zero contribution from Clowney or any of their draft picks.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

If Baltimore and San Diego lose next week, you can log off for a while. They are playing a meaningful game in week 17 with no QB all year, zero contribution from Clowney or any of their draft picks.

Keep the faith brother. It's the NFL, and teams choke a lot in the final two weeks.

[weebo]

If Baltimore and San Diego lose next week, you can log off for a while. They are playing a meaningful game in week 17 with no QB all year, zero contribution from Clowney or any of their draft picks.

If if's and but's were candy and nuts....anyway I'm not a hater, but let's be real here. They're too many things out of their control for them to have a realistic chance at the playoffs. Hey, you said it best no qb, injuries, poor draft, etc....that's a lot to overcome; and yet they're still playing a meaningful game in the last game of the season. So, let's not get our hopes up and just be glad they were able to persevere and had a good season.

[spurraider21]

Clowney still can't put any weight on his surgically repaired knee.

Also :lol At the manziel discussions in this thread

[Pelicans78]

Khalil Mack.