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InRareForm
08-15-2014, 02:23 PM
BuzzFeed 5m
Police Chief: Officer who shot Michael Brown did not know he was a robbery suspect at the time of the confrontation.
lol ferguson police
cantthinkofanything
08-15-2014, 02:27 PM
Buzz (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1681)Feed 5m
Police Chief: Officer who shot Michael Brown did not know he was a robbery suspect at the time of the confrontation.
lol ferguson police
Brown didn't know that though. He thought he was about to get popped.
DarrinS
08-15-2014, 02:28 PM
"I didn't know exactly what was going on, but I knew it didn't look right for someone to be wrestling with the police through the police window"
Acting like thugs and walking in groups into a store, taking whatever you want and threatening violence or even death if someone tries to stop you, that's typical black youth behavior as ween during the "protests". Compounding the issue is that black "leaders" who are actually just mosquitoes sucking the blood from the black communities excuse it and focus on what ever facade of injustice they can drum up to give themselves more spotlight.
Buzz (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1681)Feed 5m
Police Chief: Officer who shot Michael Brown did not know he was a robbery suspect at the time of the confrontation.
lol ferguson police
So randomly shooting a black person means you have a great chance of hitting a criminal?
Chomag
08-15-2014, 02:32 PM
Not saying anyone deserves to die, but this does show that he is not the sweet innocent teen that just wants to go to collage that the protesters and family keep gabbing about. It's also not unreasonable that Brown might have thought the officer was there because of the robbery and that does change the scenario even if the cop didn't know he was a suspect.
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 02:38 PM
So randomly shooting a black person means you have a great chance of hitting a criminal?
Can't deny DMC's still funny, tho', breh.
spurraider21
08-15-2014, 02:43 PM
I know I say some foul shit on here (often), but in all honesty:
I gotta feel bad for the black folks that rallied around a cause they fervently felt impacted by, just to see their efforts discounted because of the news that broke. Young black males get pestered and harassed daily for no reason -- I've seen it first-hand back in high school when I used to be more "down" -- and now people are going to try and argue it's "cause they're criminals, more often than not."
There's still a very real divide in this country, and racism is just as prevalent as it ever was, on both sides, and it doesn't look to be passing anytime soon.
Dapped
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 02:58 PM
Dapped
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mynicca1.png
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 03:28 PM
Acting like thugs and walking in groups into a store, taking whatever you want and threatening violence or even death if someone tries to stop you, that's typical black youth behavior as ween during the "protests". Compounding the issue is that black "leaders" who are actually just mosquitoes sucking the blood from the black communities excuse it and focus on what ever facade of injustice they can drum up to give themselves more spotlight.
That's actually typical of POOR YOUTH behavior, not blacks. Do your fucking research. :hat
RsxPiimp
08-15-2014, 03:42 PM
so what happens if it was a black cop? the blacks will just let it slide?
Of course.:lol
That's actually typical of POOR YOUTH behavior, not blacks. Do your fucking research. :hat
I know plenty of poor white folks, none of them act like that.
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:06 PM
I know plenty of poor white folks, none of them act like that.
Ah, anecdotes. The cornerstone of shitty science.
Spurminator
08-15-2014, 04:20 PM
It's not "typical" behavior for anyone.
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:23 PM
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DPG21920
08-15-2014, 04:24 PM
Ah, anecdotes. The cornerstone of shitty science.
Then you should be arguing that for the same anecdotes people are using now. For every bad experience, there's a good.
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:24 PM
It's not "typical" behavior for anyone.
Accurate. It's more typical within impoverished areas though. Don't have access to education + safety constantly threatened + less personal opportunity = higher chance of turning to crime.
DPG21920
08-15-2014, 04:25 PM
Sweet irony ^ people are taking this event and acting like every black person that walks down the street is executed and white people are never bothered. Ho Hum.
DisAsTerBot
08-15-2014, 04:25 PM
that looks nothing like darth vader tbh
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:25 PM
Then you should be arguing that for the same anecdotes people are using now. For every bad experience, there's a good.
I argue the statistics, because that's what's valid in a case like this. Not "he said, she said". Actual trends that science has shown to be consistent. And those trends are completely absent of race for the most part.
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:26 PM
that looks nothing like darth vader tbh
:lol
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:27 PM
Sweet irony ^ people are taking this event and acting like every black person that walks down the street is executed and white people are never bothered. Ho Hum.
It's not just a racial issue. It's also a, "hey, why are our cops geared like a division of our armed forces" issue.
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 04:33 PM
I don't get it.
This was a cop going after a criminal, and not a racial issue.
spurraider21
08-15-2014, 04:35 PM
I argue the statistics, because that's what's valid in a case like this. Not "he said, she said". Actual trends that science has shown to be consistent. And those trends are completely absent of race for the most part.
that comic strip was statistical evidence?
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 04:40 PM
I don't get it.
This was a cop going after a criminal, and not a racial issue.
Police chief confirmed that the cop had no idea Brown was a robbery suspect when he came across him, and told him to get out of the street.
Unless you're insisting that jaywalking is a form of criminality worthy of an immediate death sentence.
Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:48 PM
for the victim blaimers, white supremacists and suspected white supremacists...have fun
http://i58.tinypic.com/2janw55.png
Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:49 PM
And the cop's name is... Darren Wilson. :lol
rofl!
Trill Clinton
08-15-2014, 04:51 PM
Fair enough.
It is difficult to believe that a cop would just murder a kid for no reason - so I always wait to hear the other side's version - but I guess it could happen. The cop could just be no better than a common criminal.
I would still wait for all the facts to come out though.
respect
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 04:55 PM
that comic strip was statistical evidence?
... the comic strip was funny.
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 04:57 PM
Police chief confirmed that the cop had no idea Brown was a robbery suspect when he came across him, and told him to get out of the street.
Unless you're insisting that jaywalking is a form of criminality worthy of an immediate death sentence.
That's not what is being reported on CNN. They are saying he was responding to a "strong arm robbery" of a convenience store and even showed videos of the robbery.
So I don't get what all the uproar is about.
Koolaid_Man
08-15-2014, 05:01 PM
:lol...so the "kid" is some big, violent ape that is also a thief? That cop should be given a medal for the favor he did for society.
I'm sure your daughter is gonna be fucking one of the big violent apes pretty soon if not already getting tagged...it's the law averages big Dawg ;-)
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 05:08 PM
That's not what is being reported on CNN. They are saying he was responding to a "strong arm robbery" of a convenience store and even showed videos of the robbery.
So I don't get what all the uproar is about.
Why would you order a strong arm robbery suspect who is dangerous onto the sidewalk and then pass them by in your squad car? Why would you let a strong armed robbery suspect close enough to you to grab your sidearm?
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 05:14 PM
Why would you order a strong arm robbery suspect who is dangerous onto the sidewalk and then pass them by in your squad car? Why would you let a strong armed robbery suspect close enough to you to grab your sidearm?
Don't ask me, I'm not a cop.
I'm just telling you what is being reported.
I refuse to get caught up in some overblown hysteria.
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 05:16 PM
That's not what is being reported on CNN. They are saying he was responding to a "strong arm robbery" of a convenience store and even showed videos of the robbery.
So I don't get what all the uproar is about.
The CHIEF, while being interviewed by the press not more than a couple hours ago, JUST confirmed that the officer was unaware of any robbery/theft/etc when he confronted Brown about simply walking in the street.
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
08-15-2014, 05:19 PM
yes you're a geek who had a picture of rick ross in ya avihttp://i60.tinypic.com/2nktmcw.pnghttp://i61.tinypic.com/2nvtpjm.pnghttp://i61.tinypic.com/eskd21.png
:lmao
whats ya favorite rick ross album??? lmao
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 05:28 PM
It's 5:30 and the national news is coming on. I'll watch it again on ABC to see what they report.
spurraider21
08-15-2014, 05:41 PM
The CHIEF, while being interviewed by the press not more than a couple hours ago, JUST confirmed that the officer was unaware of any robbery/theft/etc when he confronted Brown about simply walking in the street.
yeah, but for all Brown knew, they were onto him for the robbery he committed, which could prompt unexpected behavior.
i'm not making assumptions on what went down, just laying out what a guy might have felt at the time. at this moment, all we have are cops backing up cops and brown's friends backing up brown
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 05:42 PM
Well, I listened to it and no such thing was mentioned.
It seems to me if something like that would have happened then all news sources would be all over it.
No one is. Maybe you misunderstood.
RD2191
08-15-2014, 06:07 PM
Do cops have dash cameras that record what goes on inside the vehicle?
spurraider21
08-15-2014, 06:09 PM
Do caps have dash cameras that record what goes on inside the vehicle?
usually the dash cam faces out the windshield, not the other way, iirc. they might have a 2nd one like those taxi shows
although if they had such a camera im sure we'd have heard about it by now
RD2191
08-15-2014, 06:10 PM
usually the dash cam faces out the windshield, not the other way, iirc
Yeah, I know that. I just figured with all the recent rise on accusations on cops maybe they'd get some that face the inside of the car. :lol
InRareForm
08-15-2014, 06:29 PM
There should be audio for sure
Ah, anecdotes. The cornerstone of shitty science.
Talking out of your ass, the cornerstone of someone who thinks reading about it trumps living it.
Cry Havoc
08-15-2014, 06:43 PM
Talking out of your ass, the cornerstone of someone who thinks reading about it trumps living it.
Citation needed. :lol
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 07:25 PM
Well, I listened to it and no such thing was mentioned.
It seems to me if something like that would have happened then all news sources would be all over it.
No one is. Maybe you misunderstood.
I didn't. The chief said as much when asked, and I'm much more inclined to believe his unrehearsed response in the moment than an incident report that was JUST released after almost a week's time.
Fpoonsie
08-15-2014, 07:29 PM
yeah, but for all Brown knew, they were onto him for the robbery he committed, which could prompt unexpected behavior.
i'm not making assumptions on what went down, just laying out what a guy might have felt at the time. at this moment, all we have are cops backing up cops and brown's friends backing up brown
Oh, I'm certainly not trying to blindly defend Brown. This guy certainly wasn't this "lovable teddy bear" that people were hoping to root for initially.
xmas1997
08-15-2014, 08:06 PM
I didn't. The chief said as much when asked, and I'm much more inclined to believe his unrehearsed response in the moment than an incident report that was JUST released after almost a week's time.
Okay, I'll keep my ears open.
Aztecfan03
08-15-2014, 08:42 PM
That's not what is being reported on CNN. They are saying he was responding to a "strong arm robbery" of a convenience store and even showed videos of the robbery.
So I don't get what all the uproar is about.
If he responded to that as reported, it doesn't mean stopping Michael Brown was related to it. It would be a wierd coincidence but why would the police chief lie about it in that way when the opposite would help the cop.
angrydude
08-15-2014, 10:05 PM
I don't care if Brown got into a fistfight with the cop earlier. Once he turned to run away that cop is unjustified in shooting him in the back.
Just like if someone breaks into your house then runs away, if you then chase him down the street and shoot him in the back it is murder.
DarrinS
08-15-2014, 10:41 PM
I don't care if Brown got into a fistfight with the cop earlier. Once he turned to run away that cop is unjustified in shooting him in the back.
Just like if someone breaks into your house then runs away, if you then chase him down the street and shoot him in the back it is murder.
Why don't you just wait until more facts come out? Why do you assume he was running away? Is there a video?
DPG21920
08-15-2014, 11:11 PM
I don't care if Brown got into a fistfight with the cop earlier. Once he turned to run away that cop is unjustified in shooting him in the back.
Just like if someone breaks into your house then runs away, if you then chase him down the street and shoot him in the back it is murder.
I don't think the 2nd part is true entirely
Oh, Gee!!
08-15-2014, 11:23 PM
Talking out of your ass, the cornerstone of someone who thinks reading about it trumps living it.
So which life have you lived? The thug life, or the cop life?
bobcatfan4life
08-15-2014, 11:44 PM
One less black, one less shitty cop I say we all win here.
SnakeBoy
08-16-2014, 12:42 AM
It's not just a racial issue. It's also a, "hey, why are our cops geared like a division of our armed forces" issue.
Two completely separate issues. Brown's shooting may or may not have been justified, there just aren't enough facts to determine that yet but either way it was the action of a single officer. The transition to a paramilitary police force is a completely unrelated issue and has been occurring for decades. They have been used against Americans regardless of race. I see no reason why it will stop since most only oppose such tactics when it is useful to their political ideology/views, otherwise they are deemed appropriate.
SupremeGuy
08-16-2014, 02:35 AM
So what are black people going to do now? Just pretend that he wasn't some thug piece of shit that robbed a store earlier? Fuck, that's why everyone finds these "protests" to be so disingenuous and full of shit. It's really telling of a community who they choose to make a martyr.
HI-FI
08-16-2014, 02:43 AM
the militarization of the police is going overboard, hopefully this is a wake up call.
http://elagentecine.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/dawn2.jpg
benefactor
08-16-2014, 07:43 AM
So they looted the store he robbed last night...:lol.
SupremeGuy
08-16-2014, 10:10 AM
So they looted the store he robbed last night...:lol.How dare that asshole own a business and expect people to not steal from it! The nerve of that guy, tbh.
:monkey
TDMVPDPOY
08-16-2014, 11:07 AM
How dare that asshole own a business and expect people to not steal from it! The nerve of that guy, tbh.
:monkey
the owner looks like west asian....pakistani or indian... PakiDan get ur ass in here
Fpoonsie
08-16-2014, 11:24 AM
Protesters, not cops, stopped the looters and protected the liquor store, as well as other local businesses.
But, of course, you won't be seein that on the news.
SnakeBoy
08-16-2014, 11:41 AM
Protesters, not cops, stopped the looters and protected the liquor store, as well as other local businesses.
But, of course, you won't be seein that on the news.
Congrats to the 7 guys who stood in front of the store after it was looted. It's possible they were just waiting for the next malt liquor delivery but without knowing that for sure they should get credit for being decent human beings.
spurraider21
08-16-2014, 11:43 AM
the militarization of the police is going overboard, hopefully this is a wake up call.
http://elagentecine.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/dawn2.jpg
:lmao you asshole
MultiTroll
08-16-2014, 12:04 PM
Why don't you just wait until more facts come out? Why do you assume he was running away? Is there a video?
Boom.
:cry putting out the info that Brown strong arm robbed the store :cry - liarwyer the family hired.
Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 12:39 PM
So they looted the store he robbed last night...:lol.
I will do everything in my power to ensure Blacks remain un-welcome in Europe
Oh, Gee!!
08-16-2014, 01:20 PM
I will do everything in my power to ensure Blacks remain un-welcome in Europe
By posting under an alias on spurstalk? Internet nazis crack me up
Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 01:44 PM
By posting under an alias on spurstalk? Internet nazis crack me up
This is my lone postername
RD2191
08-16-2014, 02:49 PM
:lolBlack African youth raised in the ghetto with a hard upbringing gets killed-"Send these apes back to Africa!"
:lolWhite privileged youth raised in the suburbs goes on rampage/killing spree-"Why aren't we taking mental illness more seriously? We need to start the discussion!"
:lolUSA
spurraider21
08-16-2014, 03:06 PM
:lolBlack African youth raised in the ghetto with a hard upbringing gets killed-"Send these apes back to Africa!"
:lolWhite privileged youth raised in the suburbs goes on rampage/killing spree-"Why aren't we taking mental illness more seriously? We need to start the discussion!"
:lolUSA
Athlete makes a big play- "God is good, he was looking after me"
Innocent infant dies of complications- "it was part of God's plan"
:lol jeebus
RD2191
08-16-2014, 03:10 PM
Athlete makes a big play- "God is good, he was looking after me"
Innocent infant dies of complications- "it was part of God's plan"
:lol jeebus
Yeah that's completely different and idiotic. People who thank God for winning a basketball game know nothing of the Bible.
spurraider21
08-16-2014, 03:14 PM
Yeah that's completely different and idiotic. People who thank God for winning a basketball game know nothing of the Bible.
I know. You assuming you know the mindset of the entire US populace was idiotic too :lol
RD2191
08-16-2014, 03:16 PM
I know. You assuming you know the mindset of the entire US populace was idiotic too :lol
Not really, the majority of people are racists fucks whether they admit or not. Go onto any site like CNN, Yahoo, MSN, and read the comments. Most Americans are pieces of crap and have the same mindset.
RD2191
08-16-2014, 03:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/
:lolThey even made up a mental condition for him.
spurraider21
08-16-2014, 03:27 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/
:lolThey even made up a mental condition for him.
That affluenza case was hilarious as fuck tbh :lol. The law office I worked at had a running joke about being affluent
Athlete makes a big play- "God is good, he was looking after me"
Innocent infant dies of complications- "it was part of God's plan"
:lol jeebus
ST member comments about having a degree in psychology: gets laughed off the forum by Spurs fans
Jeff Van Gundy comments that Tim Duncan has a degree in psychology, Spurs fans high five "Tim is a genius".
Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 06:05 PM
:lolBlack African youth raised in the ghetto with a hard upbringing gets killed-"Send these apes back to Africa!"
:lolWhite privileged youth raised in the suburbs goes on rampage/killing spree-"Why aren't we taking mental illness more seriously? We need to start the discussion!"
:lolUSA
:lmao
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxsgjdCcAEi6Dt.jpg:large
This is by no means standard media protocol, but it happens frequently, deliberately or not. News reports often headline claims from police or other officials that appear unsympathetic or dismissive of black victims. Other times, the headlines seem to suggest that black victims are to blame for their own deaths, engaging in what critics sometimes allege is a form of character assassination. When contrasted with media portrayal of white suspects and accused murderers, the differences are more striking. News outlets often choose to run headlines that exhibit an air of disbelief at an alleged white killer's supposed actions. Sometimes, they appear to go out of their way to boost the suspect's character, carrying quotes from relatives or acquaintances that often paint even alleged murderers in a positive light.
Here are a few examples:
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963404/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-1-570.jpg?6 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963404/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-1-570.jpg?6)
That's how the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal chose to present (http://lubbockonline.com/stories/022110/loc_565688235.shtml) the story of Amy Bishop, a former college professor who eventually pleaded guilty (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/amy-bishop-guilty_n_1876858.html) to killing three colleagues and wounding three others at a faculty meeting in 2010.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963360/thumbs/o-VICTIM-7-570.jpg?6 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963360/thumbs/o-VICTIM-7-570.jpg?6)
And that's the headline AL.com ran (http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2014/04/montgomerys_latest_homicide_vi.html) about the shooting death of a 25-year-old black man in Alabama earlier this year.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962758/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-2-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962758/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-2-570.jpg?2)
This is how the Staten Island Advance covered (http://www.silive.com/southshore/index.ssf/2010/10/son_in_staten_island_murders_w.html) the case of Eric Bellucci, a mentally ill New York man who allegedly killed his parents.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1964185/thumbs/o-TRAYVON-570.jpg?1 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1964185/thumbs/o-TRAYVON-570.jpg?1)
Meanwhile, NBC News ran this headline (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/26/10872124-trayvon-martin-was-suspended-three-times-from-school) during ongoing coverage of the Trayvon Martin killing.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962765/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-3-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962765/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-3-570.jpg?2)
This Fox News headline (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/12/oregon-school-shooting-suspect-fascinated-with-guns-but-was-devoted-mormon-his/) quoted friends shocked that 15-year-old Jared Michael Padgett had entered his high school heavily armed and killed a classmate, injured a teacher and took his own life.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963357/thumbs/o-VICTIM-6-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963357/thumbs/o-VICTIM-6-570.jpg?2)
But in Florida, this headline in the Ledger (http://www.theledger.com/article/20140310/NEWS/140319988) focused on a police account that made the death of a black 19-year-old seem somehow expected, or at least unsurprising.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962772/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-5-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962772/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-5-570.jpg?4)
In the wake of the mass shooting in Santa Barbara, California, earlier this year, the Whittier Daily News offered a headline (http://www.whittierdailynews.com/general-news/20140525/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-was-soft-spoken-polite-a-gentleman-ex-principal-says) showing one man's disbelief that ****** Rodger could havecommitted such a crime.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963167/thumbs/o-VICTIM-1-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963167/thumbs/o-VICTIM-1-570.jpg?3)
Earlier this month, the New York Daily News ran this headline (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-kill-man-air-rifle-walmart-ohio-article-1.1895479#ixzz3AHJv8HRX), carrying comments by the Ohio attorney general that appeared to defend police after killing a black man at a Walmart (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/john-crawford-iii_n_5669715.html).
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962768/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-4-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962768/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-4-570.jpg?2)
This was the headline given to an Associated Press story at Mlive.com (http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2012/03/ohio_shooting_suspect_tj_lane.html) about an Ohio teen who later pleaded guilty to a school shooting in which three students were killed and twowere wounded.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963185/thumbs/o-VICTIM-4-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963185/thumbs/o-VICTIM-4-570.jpg?3)
But when an unarmed father of two was killed by a police officer while entering a vehicle that contained his own children, the Los Angeles Times served up this claim (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/marine-shot-.html) from officials.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962780/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-7-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962780/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-7-570.jpg?4)
In 2008, 18-year-old Ryan Schallenberger was accused of plotting to bomb his South Carolina high school. Ohio's Chronicle Telegram wanted readers to know (http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2008/04/21/straight-a-student-plots-to-bomb-high-school/) that he was a straight-A student, running an AP story with this headline.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963343/thumbs/o-VICTIM-3-570.jpg?5 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963343/thumbs/o-VICTIM-3-570.jpg?5)
And according to the Omaha World-Herald (http://www.omaha.com/news/shooting-victim-had-many-run-ins-with-law/article_867c8b61-9a39-5b14-8c88-f5323058ff29.html), this is what you needed to know about Julius B. Vaughn, a 19-year-old gunned down in Omaha last year:
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962775/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-6-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962775/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-6-570.jpg?4)
Kerri Ann Heffernan was charged in 2012 in a string of bank robberies and stores. This headline at Wicked Local (http://www.wickedlocal.com/x1826358906/Bank-robbery-suspect-was-outstanding-Blue-Hills-student) wonders how she'd come so far from her days as a smart high school student.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963174/thumbs/o-VICTIM-2-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963174/thumbs/o-VICTIM-2-570.jpg?3)
Of 22-year-old black man Deon Sanders' killing in Ohio earlier this year, WKBN's headline (http://wkbn.com/2014/06/18/police-warren-shooting-victim-was-gang-member/) said "gang member," and that apparently was enough.
Dap (http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9644165/like)+ Quote (http://www.thecoli.com/threads/when-the-media-treats-white-killers-better-than-black-victims.240729/reply?quote=9644165)
Trill Clinton
08-16-2014, 06:06 PM
j colehttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.pnghttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.pnghttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4gG5MorBg
Infinite_limit
08-16-2014, 06:14 PM
j colehttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.pnghttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.pnghttp://i59.tinypic.com/2a75qa9.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4gG5MorBg
Definitely not clicking that
RD2191
08-16-2014, 07:21 PM
:lmao
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxsgjdCcAEi6Dt.jpg:large
This is by no means standard media protocol, but it happens frequently, deliberately or not. News reports often headline claims from police or other officials that appear unsympathetic or dismissive of black victims. Other times, the headlines seem to suggest that black victims are to blame for their own deaths, engaging in what critics sometimes allege is a form of character assassination. When contrasted with media portrayal of white suspects and accused murderers, the differences are more striking. News outlets often choose to run headlines that exhibit an air of disbelief at an alleged white killer's supposed actions. Sometimes, they appear to go out of their way to boost the suspect's character, carrying quotes from relatives or acquaintances that often paint even alleged murderers in a positive light.
Here are a few examples:
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963404/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-1-570.jpg?6 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963404/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-1-570.jpg?6)
That's how the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal chose to present (http://lubbockonline.com/stories/022110/loc_565688235.shtml) the story of Amy Bishop, a former college professor who eventually pleaded guilty (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/amy-bishop-guilty_n_1876858.html) to killing three colleagues and wounding three others at a faculty meeting in 2010.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963360/thumbs/o-VICTIM-7-570.jpg?6 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963360/thumbs/o-VICTIM-7-570.jpg?6)
And that's the headline AL.com ran (http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2014/04/montgomerys_latest_homicide_vi.html) about the shooting death of a 25-year-old black man in Alabama earlier this year.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962758/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-2-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962758/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-2-570.jpg?2)
This is how the Staten Island Advance covered (http://www.silive.com/southshore/index.ssf/2010/10/son_in_staten_island_murders_w.html) the case of Eric Bellucci, a mentally ill New York man who allegedly killed his parents.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1964185/thumbs/o-TRAYVON-570.jpg?1 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1964185/thumbs/o-TRAYVON-570.jpg?1)
Meanwhile, NBC News ran this headline (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/26/10872124-trayvon-martin-was-suspended-three-times-from-school) during ongoing coverage of the Trayvon Martin killing.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962765/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-3-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962765/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-3-570.jpg?2)
This Fox News headline (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/12/oregon-school-shooting-suspect-fascinated-with-guns-but-was-devoted-mormon-his/) quoted friends shocked that 15-year-old Jared Michael Padgett had entered his high school heavily armed and killed a classmate, injured a teacher and took his own life.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963357/thumbs/o-VICTIM-6-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963357/thumbs/o-VICTIM-6-570.jpg?2)
But in Florida, this headline in the Ledger (http://www.theledger.com/article/20140310/NEWS/140319988) focused on a police account that made the death of a black 19-year-old seem somehow expected, or at least unsurprising.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962772/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-5-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962772/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-5-570.jpg?4)
In the wake of the mass shooting in Santa Barbara, California, earlier this year, the Whittier Daily News offered a headline (http://www.whittierdailynews.com/general-news/20140525/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-was-soft-spoken-polite-a-gentleman-ex-principal-says) showing one man's disbelief that ****** Rodger could havecommitted such a crime.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963167/thumbs/o-VICTIM-1-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963167/thumbs/o-VICTIM-1-570.jpg?3)
Earlier this month, the New York Daily News ran this headline (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-kill-man-air-rifle-walmart-ohio-article-1.1895479#ixzz3AHJv8HRX), carrying comments by the Ohio attorney general that appeared to defend police after killing a black man at a Walmart (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/john-crawford-iii_n_5669715.html).
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962768/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-4-570.jpg?2 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962768/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-4-570.jpg?2)
This was the headline given to an Associated Press story at Mlive.com (http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2012/03/ohio_shooting_suspect_tj_lane.html) about an Ohio teen who later pleaded guilty to a school shooting in which three students were killed and twowere wounded.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963185/thumbs/o-VICTIM-4-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963185/thumbs/o-VICTIM-4-570.jpg?3)
But when an unarmed father of two was killed by a police officer while entering a vehicle that contained his own children, the Los Angeles Times served up this claim (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/marine-shot-.html) from officials.
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962780/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-7-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962780/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-7-570.jpg?4)
In 2008, 18-year-old Ryan Schallenberger was accused of plotting to bomb his South Carolina high school. Ohio's Chronicle Telegram wanted readers to know (http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2008/04/21/straight-a-student-plots-to-bomb-high-school/) that he was a straight-A student, running an AP story with this headline.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963343/thumbs/o-VICTIM-3-570.jpg?5 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963343/thumbs/o-VICTIM-3-570.jpg?5)
And according to the Omaha World-Herald (http://www.omaha.com/news/shooting-victim-had-many-run-ins-with-law/article_867c8b61-9a39-5b14-8c88-f5323058ff29.html), this is what you needed to know about Julius B. Vaughn, a 19-year-old gunned down in Omaha last year:
WHITE SUSPECT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962775/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-6-570.jpg?4 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1962775/thumbs/o-SUSPECT-6-570.jpg?4)
Kerri Ann Heffernan was charged in 2012 in a string of bank robberies and stores. This headline at Wicked Local (http://www.wickedlocal.com/x1826358906/Bank-robbery-suspect-was-outstanding-Blue-Hills-student) wonders how she'd come so far from her days as a smart high school student.
BLACK VICTIM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963174/thumbs/o-VICTIM-2-570.jpg?3 (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1963174/thumbs/o-VICTIM-2-570.jpg?3)
Of 22-year-old black man Deon Sanders' killing in Ohio earlier this year, WKBN's headline (http://wkbn.com/2014/06/18/police-warren-shooting-victim-was-gang-member/) said "gang member," and that apparently was enough.
Dap (http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9644165/like)+ Quote (http://www.thecoli.com/threads/when-the-media-treats-white-killers-better-than-black-victims.240729/reply?quote=9644165)
Need I say more? Trill with them truth nukes.
Jacob1983
08-17-2014, 12:00 AM
Peoples is racist.
MultiTroll
08-17-2014, 12:14 AM
I can cherry pick headlines.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Ralph_Wiggum.png
Family of Michael Brown, unarmed Mo. teen shot dead by police, may attend Al Sharpton's march on Staten Island
Daniel Sedin
08-17-2014, 10:34 AM
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is some real shit. He was shot down like an animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 10:44 AM
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is some real shit. He was shot down like an animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM
Listen to the guy in the background. He says Brown charged to officer.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 10:44 AM
http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 11:10 AM
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is some real shit. He was shot down like an animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM
no evidence of anything in that video......that was dumb
Daniel Sedin
08-17-2014, 11:12 AM
no evidence of anything in that video......that was dumb
He had his gun drawn after he surrendered. Meaning the killing was unjustified.
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 11:20 AM
Quote from video:
"I just got out of the shower. I don't know what happened. The police had no right to shoot him. He didn't even have a gun!"
You can hear another witness say that Brown charged at the cop in that video :rollin
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 11:22 AM
"So then he ran, police got out and ran after him. So the next thing I know he coming back towards [?] police had his gun drawn already. Police fired shots ... the next thing I know I think he missed him. The police shot him. Next thing I know I think he missed him. Then the dude started running - kept coming towards the police. "
From your video
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:23 AM
He had his gun drawn after he surrendered. Meaning the killing was unjustified.
You are one stupid fuck. Listen to the guy in the background. He clearly says Brown charged the officer. Thanks for making a case against yourself you dipshit.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:24 AM
Eric Holder requesting immediate Federal autopsy. Must not have liked the States.
Clipper Nation
08-17-2014, 11:25 AM
:lol Frizzle is retarded...
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:26 AM
http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/
This lines up pretty much with how the guy in the background of Sedins video says. Brown charged officer. Brown got shot.
Daniel Sedin
08-17-2014, 11:26 AM
You are one stupid fuck. Listen to the guy in the background. He clearly says Brown charged the officer. Thanks for making a case against yourself you dipshit.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You must be one of those "black guys = thugs" radicals.
The autopsy will prove he had surrendered, as the gunshots will be adjusted for when his hands were up.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:31 AM
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You must be one of those "black guys = thugs" radicals.
The autopsy will prove he had surrendered, as the gunshots will be adjusted for when his hands were up.
:lmao
listen to the video YOU just posted. He said Brown charged the officer.
And Holder obviously didn't get the "hands up don't shoot" autopsy report he wanted from the state so he's requested an immediate federal autopsy.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:35 AM
The autopsy will prove he had surrendered, as the gunshots will be adjusted for when his hands were up.
And when the results prove the opposite than what? I'll tell you what, Brown will still be treated as a martyr and that is what is fucked up about some of the black community. They will still think the cop was in the wrong and whitey is out to get them, even after it is proven Brown went for the officers gun and charged him. The black community has already excused his strong arm robbery. He's done nothing wrong in their eyes. It's saddening to see riots before the truth is even known, makes people look stupid.
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 11:37 AM
^just a result of people reacting emotionally(aka like a bitch) rather than rationally(aka like a level headed human)
Henrik Sedin
08-17-2014, 11:39 AM
And when the results prove the opposite than what? I'll tell you what, Brown will still be treated as a martyr and that is what is fucked up about some of the black community. They will still think the cop was in the wrong and whitey is out to get them, even after it is proven Brown went for the officers gun and charged him. The black community has already excused his strong arm robbery. He's done nothing wrong in their eyes. It's saddening to see riots before the truth is even known, makes people look stupid.
Well, that all might be true, but the fact remains is that he should have been detained and not shot after he surrendered.
Just because your morals are on a different level doesn't mean that you're right. You're being too emotional.
Proxy
08-17-2014, 11:39 AM
This lines up pretty much with how the guy in the background of Sedins video says. Brown charged officer. Brown got shot.
I'm not making any judgments on this specific incident yet, but do you think a cop has the right to shoot (with intent to kill) an unarmed citizen, even if he's "charging" at him?
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:42 AM
Well, that all might be true, but the fact remains is that he should have been detained and not shot after he surrendered.
Just because your morals are on a different level doesn't mean that you're right. You're being too emotional.
You are assume he surrendered.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 11:45 AM
I'm not making any judgments on this specific incident yet, but do you think a cop has the right to shoot (with intent to kill) an unarmed citizen, even if he's "charging" at him?
Yes. I'm assuming the person doing the charging of the cop is intending to kill. Why else charge a cop?
And to be clear I dislike cops so I'm not defending them, I just dislike stupid people more. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 11:45 AM
I'm not making any judgments on this specific incident yet, but do you think a cop has the right to shoot (with intent to kill) an unarmed citizen, even if he's "charging" at him?
It doesnt matter what anyone thinks. The law says its justified. Anyone who would charge a cop is either on something or incredibly stupid.
Henrik Sedin
08-17-2014, 11:57 AM
It doesnt matter what anyone thinks. The law says its justified.
:lol excuse me?
I'm not making any judgments on this specific incident yet, but do you think a cop has the right to shoot (with intent to kill) an unarmed citizen, even if he's "charging" at him?
Is this a serious question? You think he's "charging" him to play patty cake? Is the cop supposed to fling his gun and get in a karate stance?
You don't charge a cop...ever, unless you want to end up dead. How is this not common sense?
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 12:10 PM
:lol excuse me?
are you retarded? a cop is absolutely in the right to shoot a suspect thats charging them. especially if they just fought with that suspect and the suspect tried to go for his gun.
Is this a serious question? You think he's "charging" him to play patty cake? Is the cop supposed to fling his gun and get in a karate stance?
You don't charge a cop...ever, unless you want to end up dead. How is this not common sense?
That depends on what he brought to the register tbh. I wouldn't charge him for a donut or coffee, but larger items, yeah.
Proxy
08-17-2014, 12:45 PM
Yes. I'm assuming the person doing the charging of the cop is intending to kill. Why else charge a cop?
And to be clear I dislike cops so I'm not defending them, I just dislike stupid people more. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
It doesnt matter what anyone thinks. The law says its justified. Anyone who would charge a cop is either on something or incredibly stupid.
stupid no doubt, but I'd want the cop to apprehend someone without killing them in a similar situation. You've chased this guy, and then he charges you. I hope that a fully trained police officer would understand that he's unarmed given his behavior up to that point, and shoot at his legs at the very most.
Possible that sensationalists are getting to me, but it seems that this unarmed killing thing is getting more frequent. I get that it's easy to say these cops are making rash decisions in retrospect, but race is a factor and it adds another problem. I'll see someone make the point that we've had an officer lose his job over killing a dog, but then we'll see another get paid leave for killing an unarmed person.
Not ignoring the looters, and again, you're a fucking moron to charge an officer. Still, weighing everything that we know, I'm leaning towards holding law enforcement to more accountability for these recent situations. Especially if we're going to give them military equipment, which is terrifying and wrong imho.
Bill_Brasky
08-17-2014, 12:50 PM
MB was a big dude. People have been killed/seriously hurt from just one punch before. And when a cop shoots someone they shoot to kill. They arent trained to try to injure someone. Always shoot for center mass.
Proxy
08-17-2014, 12:54 PM
MB was a big dude. People have been killed/seriously hurt from just one punch before. And when a cop shoots someone they shoot to kill. They arent trained to try to injure someone. Always shoot for center mass.
If they aren't trained to do that, then my expectations of an officer are entirely unrealistic.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 01:10 PM
If they aren't trained to do that, then my expectations of an officer are entirely unrealistic.
Yes they are entirely unrealistic.
xmas1997
08-17-2014, 01:19 PM
Just heard the rest of the story and sounds like the police screwed up and overreacted.
Still no excuse for the rioting though.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
InRareForm
08-17-2014, 02:34 PM
MB was a big dude. People have been killed/seriously hurt from just one punch before. And when a cop shoots someone they shoot to kill. They arent trained to try to injure someone. Always shoot for center mass.
X7slllO7VMo
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 05:11 PM
"Ballistics will show he was shot in the front (during bum rush) and not in the back"
If this proves to be true, will completely obliterate the "he was standing there with his hands in the air and the cop shot him in the back". :rolleyes
baseline bum
08-17-2014, 05:38 PM
MB was a big dude. People have been killed/seriously hurt from just one punch before. And when a cop shoots someone they shoot to kill. They arent trained to try to injure someone. Always shoot for center mass.
This. If Michael Brown was charging me I'd put two shots in his chest.
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:43 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d52d808285b1cc76386dace88e7d857/tumblr_na9mshkHnh1s3yhxto1_1280.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-U3fdRyFpT4g/Uki9AO_rVBI/AAAAAAAACE4/hcFcgj54J3g/s1600/kermit-bike.gif
spurraider21
08-17-2014, 05:46 PM
more we/they race baiting by trill :toast
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:48 PM
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much respect to j cole
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Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:48 PM
more we/they race baiting by trill :toast
sorry dude, but this thread is full of race bait.
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:49 PM
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RsxPiimp
08-17-2014, 05:51 PM
Hard to believe the kid charged to attack the officer, especially after being shot once.
Fpoonsie
08-17-2014, 05:52 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-U3fdRyFpT4g/Uki9AO_rVBI/AAAAAAAACE4/hcFcgj54J3g/s1600/kermit-bike.gif
rofl. This curfew post was great.
spurraider21
08-17-2014, 05:53 PM
sorry dude, but this thread is full of race bait.
yeah... keep contributin though
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 05:53 PM
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livestream
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Clipper Nation
08-17-2014, 05:56 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d52d808285b1cc76386dace88e7d857/tumblr_na9mshkHnh1s3yhxto1_1280.jpg
This meme is retarded even for Trill.... the Vancouver riots were because they lost :lol
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 06:00 PM
rofl. This curfew post was great.
lol hell yea. glad you're enjoying the forum, fam.
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 06:05 PM
yeah... keep contributin though
no doubt
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 06:06 PM
already posted in political forum. eywitness account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEmBhV8RB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JJHma6WjY
ColinB
08-17-2014, 06:15 PM
Generally agreeing with Trill's opinions in this thread, but man, that J Cole song is awful.
InRareForm
08-17-2014, 06:18 PM
J cole is a cool dude
silverblk mystix
08-17-2014, 06:42 PM
already posted in political forum. eywitness account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEmBhV8RB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JJHma6WjY
Host: "Tiffany, can you think of anything that you saw - on that street- before the shooting started or during the shooting that you thought in some way was a threat to the life of that police officer who was doing the shooting?"
Tiffany :"I didn't see anything that could have threatened his life - not at all!"
um....seriously?
What about...um...I don't know...
maybe...
that big fuckin guy that was fighting him and trying to take his gun away to kill him?
:rollin:rollin:rollin
People on both sides with huuuuge fuckin' agendas!!!!!
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 06:46 PM
already posted in political forum. eywitness account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JJHma6WjY
:lol Liarwyer glaring at her. "Stick to the script, stick to the script and we'll get paid."
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 06:56 PM
yeah... keep contributin though
okay
https://38.media.tumblr.com/29bfcdf3f53b2831780174f6d070d490/tumblr_n8e3ghMcFZ1r6w4h8o3_r1_500.gif
Fpoonsie
08-17-2014, 07:18 PM
lol hell yea. glad you're enjoying the forum, fam.
Good lookin' out, fam.
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rejoice.png
benefactor
08-17-2014, 07:41 PM
already posted in political forum. eywitness account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEmBhV8RB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JJHma6WjY
Not pushing play on those...as one glance at the person being interviewed pretty much lets me know what I'm going to hear. What is that thing on her head?
SnakeBoy
08-17-2014, 08:01 PM
Hard to believe the kid charged to attack the officer, especially after being shot once.
This 70 year old takes the shots like a champ, pretty easy to see why someone the size of Brown could take multiple body shots and keeping charging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqU3ptNKYTE&feature=share
RD2191
08-17-2014, 08:08 PM
What kind of bitch shoots an unarmed young man coming at you? LOL, what a pussy. This dudes idol must of been Zimmerman.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 08:10 PM
I've seen a 5'5 Chicano cholo throw hands with a black dude that was easily 220 6'1. The lil dude held his own.
White cop feared for his life while being armed.:lol
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 08:13 PM
Not pushing play on those...as one glance at the person being interviewed pretty much lets me know what I'm going to hear. What is that thing on her head?
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/2014-08-15T02-29-46.533Z--1280x720.video_770x443.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/textarticle_640/2013/06/27/zimmerman_rachel_jeantel_0.jpg
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 08:25 PM
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rachel-jeantel-screenshot.jpg
Rachel "Dee Dee" Jeantel.
I think she looks much more becoming in this pic.
She was pretty stressed out in the Traybonz trial.
silverblk mystix
08-17-2014, 08:44 PM
What kind of bitch shoots an unarmed young man coming at you? LOL, what a pussy. This dudes idol must of been Zimmerman.
Yeah, he should have allowed the kid to rush him, take away his gun - and killed him with his own gun.
At least he wouldn't have been a pussy.
(c'mon Rob - you're better than that)
RD2191
08-17-2014, 08:53 PM
Yeah, he should have allowed the kid to rush him, take away his gun - and killed him with his own gun.
At least he wouldn't have been a pussy.
(c'mon Rob - you're better than that)
Shouldn't he of had non lethal alternatives? Taser/stun gun? If he really feared for his life he would of gotten back into his patrol vehicle and called for help/back up. If the young man was armed then I understand why he would shoot him. But the cop is trained to defend himself, especially from an unarmed threat. The young man posed no immediate danger to him or to others. He simply panicked or thought he would play hero and shot a young man for no good reason. Imo.
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 08:54 PM
if i was a cop and I had some Blind Side looking nigga bumrush me, I'd blast his ass.
silverblk mystix
08-17-2014, 09:07 PM
Shouldn't he of had non lethal alternatives? Taser/stun gun? If he really feared for his life he would of gotten back into his patrol vehicle and called for help/back up. If the young man was armed then I understand why he would shoot him. But the cop is trained to defend himself, especially from an unarmed threat. The young man posed no immediate danger to him or to others. He simply panicked or thought he would play hero and shot a young man for no good reason. Imo.
#1) Yes - he could have/should have tased him first - but the public would now be calling for his head because he tased a poor "innocent" black kid.
#2) At that point - the cop did not know if the kid was armed because the kid had already assaulted him - by pushing the cop into the car - and showing the cop how strong he was (the kid) - so no "search" had been conducted on the kid because = he resisted arrest and assaulted the cop and tried to take away the cops gun.
#3) The kid had already been shot yet - the police claim that he was walking towards the officer - (bum rush) - now what would go through your mind if you already shot a big motherfucker and he is rushing towards you? (A reasonable person might think -"this motherfucker is on pcp and he has super-human strength - my fuckin gun didn't put his lights out - fuck this!")
#4) Where are all the other questions....for example;
A) Why the fuck is this kid robbing shit, assaulting cops, evading from the cops?
B) Why isn't the public - or the fuckin media for that matter - upset that this thug was not following direct orders from a police officer doing his job? - Where is the fuckin outrage that these kids are out there terrorizing people, robbing them and then completely disrespecting and attacking the police? Why the fuck has no one even questioned this?
It would have been nice if the cop had just tased him and cuffed him - but sometimes a suspect will be bigger and stronger and possibly out of his mind with drugs and you might be better off just blowing him away and going home to your family.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:17 PM
#1) Yes - he could have/should have tased him first - but the public would now be calling for his head because he tased a poor "innocent" black kid.
#2) At that point - the cop did not know if the kid was armed because the kid had already assaulted him - by pushing the cop into the car - and showing the cop how strong he was (the kid) - so no "search" had been conducted on the kid because = he resisted arrest and assaulted the cop and tried to take away the cops gun.
#3) The kid had already been shot yet - the police claim that he was walking towards the officer - (bum rush) - now what would go through your mind if you already shot a big motherfucker and he is rushing towards you? (A reasonable person might think -"this motherfucker is on pcp and he has super-human strength - my fuckin gun didn't put his lights out - fuck this!")
#4) Where are all the other questions....for example;
A) Why the fuck is this kid robbing shit, assaulting cops, evading from the cops?
B) Why isn't the public - or the fuckin media for that matter - upset that this thug was not following direct orders from a police officer doing his job? - Where is the fuckin outrage that these kids are out there terrorizing people, robbing them and then completely disrespecting and attacking the police? Why the fuck has no one even questioned this?
It would have been nice if the cop had just tased him and cuffed him - but sometimes a suspect will be bigger and stronger and possibly out of his mind with drugs and you might be better off just blowing him away and going home to your family.
I disagree with most of your points. Like I said before, the cop must of been shitting his pants for him to shoot a young man who had already been shot. The kid may of been on drugs but I doubt it given the camera footage from the store. His crime had nothing to do with him being shot as the record shows the officer didn't know he was a robbery suspect. And if you believe a young man should be shot and killed because of stealing then that is a sad way of thinking. I stole many times as a young man, do you think I deserved to get shot and killed? Sure, he may of been a punk kid but it doesn't justify him being shot while unarmed.
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 09:19 PM
this is basically Trayvon 2.0, lowlife fucking with the wrong person. props on Obama and media for churning out a sequel so quickly, Golan-Globus style. i do wonder what HNIC has going on though to create a diversionary tactic, as the Holder investigation will draw this shit out longer to focus your attention from more pressing concerns.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:22 PM
this is basically Trayvon 2.0, lowlife fucking with the wrong person. props on Obama and media for churning out a sequel so quickly, Golan-Globus style. i do wonder what HNIC has going on though to create a diversionary tactic, as the Holder investigation will draw this shit out longer to focus your attention from more pressing concerns.
You mean fucking with a white man who was scared shitless while his "attacker" was unarmed? :lol
Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 09:24 PM
But the cop is trained to defend himself, especially from an unarmed threat.
He did.
The young man posed no immediate danger to him or to others. He simply panicked or thought he would play hero and shot a young man for no good reason. Imo.
bullshit if the guy was charging him.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:25 PM
He did.
bullshit if the guy was charging him.
A wounded unarmed man is a threat to a trained police officer who is holding and pointing a gun towards his attacker? :lol
Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 09:28 PM
A wounded unarmed man is a threat to a trained police officer who is holding and pointing a gun towards his attacker? :lol
But you think he shouldn't have used the gun. He was a threat, even wounded, if you don't use the gun.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:33 PM
But you think he shouldn't have used the gun. He was a threat, even wounded, if you don't use the gun.
How is a wounded unarmed person a threat to a trained police officer holding a gun?
Trill Clinton
08-17-2014, 09:34 PM
501109767419359232
:wakeup
baseline bum
08-17-2014, 09:34 PM
do you think I deserved to get shot and killed?
Well yeah, since you swam across the river illegally.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:36 PM
Well yeah, since you swam across the river illegally.
:wakeup
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 09:40 PM
You mean fucking with a white man who was scared shitless while his "attacker" was unarmed? :lol
fucking with a cop is never going to end well, even if you win the fight. if he tried taking the gun or bumrushing him, especially at silverback size, then he fucked up and paid the price.
maybe the cop will be punished for not tasering him or using Queensberry rules like you recommend, but robbing a store then attacking a cop has to be the dumbest shit imaginable.
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 09:41 PM
Well yeah, since you swam across the river illegally.
:lol
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:43 PM
fucking with a cop is never going to end well, even if you win the fight. if he tried taking the gun or bumrushing him, especially at silverback size, then he fucked up and paid the price.
maybe the cop will be punished for not tasering him or using Queensberry rules like you recommend, but robbing a store then attacking a cop has to be the dumbest shit imaginable.
Okay the cop was a huge vagina. Care to add anything else?
leemajors
08-17-2014, 09:43 PM
rofl. This curfew post was great.
kermit in decades before the hipsters on the brakeless single speed
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 09:47 PM
Okay the cop was a huge vagina. Care to add anything else?
he gets to go home and eat a Hungry Man dinner while Blind Side is worm food.
leemajors
08-17-2014, 09:49 PM
he gets to go home and eat a Hungry Man dinner while Blind Side is worm food.
it may gain traction if you hashtag it thusly: #blindside
RD2191
08-17-2014, 09:51 PM
he gets to go home and eat a Hungry Man dinner while Blind Side is worm food.
Doubt it, he will get his soon enough. He still has to live with being a murderer and huge vagina for the rest of his life though. And don't play racist with me. If you wanna get rowdy then let me know. Oh that's right, you're one of those pussies who act tough and talk shit while hiding behind a computer screen. :lol No wonder you defend the cop, vaginas stick up for vaginas.
Chomag
08-17-2014, 09:55 PM
If you have someone that is rushing you with your gun drawn wtf else are you supposed to do!? Would you be willing to chance it that he is not going to get that gun and turn it on you? This is of course if this is what happened and if it did then the shooting was justified. People are just to quick to make a judgment before any facts come out. IT's an on-going investigation and not an episode of CSI where the case is solved in 45 minutes.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:02 PM
Multiple eyewitnesses claim that the young man was on his knees and had has hands raised when he was shot multiple times. LOL @ cops making shit up.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 10:04 PM
It's amusing to watch the criminal defenders change their argument in this thread. Now that they've admitted he's committed a criminal act minutes before they're going with he shouldn't have been shot more because he was wounded. This isn't lone survivor the movie where one shot drops everyone. People don't realize how many bullets the body can take and keep on going, especially when the shots aren't well placed. Big Brown kept on coming and got a few more than he could take.
TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2014, 10:05 PM
Multiple eyewitnesses claim that the young man was on his knees and had has hands raised when he was shot multiple times. LOL @ cops making shit up.
Eyewitnesses my ass. Being in the shower and heading shots does not count. The only guy I've heard that truly saw it said Brown charged the cops.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:06 PM
It's amusing to watch the criminal defenders change their argument in this thread. Now that they've admitted he's committed a criminal act minutes before they're going with he shouldn't have been shot more because he was wounded. This isn't lone survivor the movie where one shot drops everyone. People don't realize how many bullets the body can take and keep on going, especially when the shots aren't well placed. Big Brown kept on coming and got a few more than he could take.
Who is defending crime? And as I said before, when is an unarmed wounded man a threat to a trained police officer with a gun?:lol
HI-FI
08-17-2014, 10:07 PM
Doubt it, he will get his soon enough. He still has to live with being a murderer and huge vagina for the rest of his life though. And don't play racist with me. If you wanna get rowdy then let me know. Oh that's right, you're one of those pussies who act tough and talk shit while hiding behind a computer screen. :lol No wonder you defend the cop, vaginas stick up for vaginas.
cop may be wrong, but i doubt it's what the media made it out to be. if they prove he was shot from the back while running, then yes different story. otherwise i don't consider him a pussy. why you defend the dead guy, remind you of your juvie days?
Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 10:07 PM
How is a wounded unarmed person a threat to a trained police officer holding a gun?
But you wanted to take the gun out of the equation.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:08 PM
Eyewitnesses my ass. Being in the shower and heading shots does not count. The only guy I've heard that truly saw it said Brown charged the cops.
How do you know he was the only guy that truly saw it? And there are videos of people who all have the same story uploaded to Facebook a couple of hours after the shooting, your telling me they all got together to make sure their stories matched?:lol
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:10 PM
cop may be wrong, but i doubt it's what the media made it out to be. if they prove he was shot from the back while running, then yes different story. otherwise i don't consider him a pussy. why you defend the dead guy, remind you of your juvie days?
The dead guy committed a crime, stealing is never okay. However, a cop shooting him multiple times while unarmed is also not okay.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
08-17-2014, 10:11 PM
Who is defending crime? And as I said before, when is an unarmed wounded man a threat to a trained police officer with a gun?:lol
A NAPA on pcp or baff salts
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:12 PM
But you wanted to take the gun out of the equation.
What the hell are you talking about? Fact is the cop had a gun and the young man did not. I'm not here to discuss hypothetical scenarios.
Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 10:13 PM
Okay the cop was a huge vagina. Care to add anything else?
Yes. Logic evades you.
Aztecfan03
08-17-2014, 10:13 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Fact is the cop had a gun and the young man did not. I'm not here to discuss hypothetical scenarios.
YOu think he shouldn't have fired, hence taking the gun out of the equation.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:14 PM
Yes. Logic evades you.
Logic? What if the cop didn't have a gun?:lol
RD2191
08-17-2014, 10:16 PM
YOu think he shouldn't have fired, hence taking the gun out of the equation.
As I said, he should of gotten back into his patrol car or used a different method of self defense. The young man posed no immediate threat to anyone so him using lethal force was not justified.
benefactor
08-17-2014, 10:45 PM
Here we go again.
https://news.yahoo.com/tear-gas-riot-gear-return-025700580.html
Police have fired tear gas into a crowd of protesters, hitting at least one child, according to reporters at the scene.
:lol...what the fuck are children doing out there? Black people are seriously not doing themselves any favors as this all plays out.
Well......erm. Yeah. This shouldn't have happened but it did. Many things shouldn't have happened but they did. I accept this mans fate. I don't believe he would. I will accept my fate if its as worse as this or if I'm eaten alive by Lions. ~shrug~
As I said, he should of gotten back into his patrol car or used a different method of self defense. The young man posed no immediate threat to anyone so him using lethal force was not justified.
Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.
"The cop should have gotten back in car" :cry. You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 11:00 PM
Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.
"The cop should have gotten back in car" :cry. You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.
Don't talk to me about real life. I was raised in the hood, son. And the cop knew he didn't have a gun seeing as the man ran away, if he had a gun and was going to use it you think he'd run from the cop? The man was 30-35 feet away according to the cop, that is in no way an immediate threat, especially without a gun.
Chomag
08-17-2014, 11:04 PM
Wouldn't A 6' 4 250+ pound angry, and defiant black man be a pretty powerful weapon with in itself?
RD2191
08-17-2014, 11:06 PM
Isn't A 6' 4 250+ pound angry, and defiant black man is a pretty powerful weapon with in itself?
What does black have anything to do with it? There's you and the cops problem right there.
Chomag
08-17-2014, 11:07 PM
What does black have anything to do with it? There's you and the cops problem right there.
Wait he wast black?
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 11:08 PM
Don't talk to me about real life. I was raised in the hood, son. And the cop knew he didn't have a gun seeing as the man ran away, if he had a gun and was going to use it you think he'd run from the cop? The man was 30-35 feet away according to the cop, that is in no way an immediate threat, especially without a gun.
Brown ran away from the cop = for a fact he must not have had a gun?
What a croc of shit.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 11:12 PM
Brown ran away from the cop = for a fact he must not have had a gun?
What a croc of shit.
Not a fact. But if a person who supposedly has no fear of dying in your eyes had a gun and was willing to attack you don't you think he would of used it in the first place? Yeah, let me attack this cop who is armed while I keep my gun in my pocket/pants. Makes perfect sense. The cop knew for a fact that the young man was not armed, he should just admit to being a huge vagina who panicked/overreacted.
RD2191
08-17-2014, 11:14 PM
Wait he wast black?
Does it matter, you're assuming that just because he was black that made him an even bigger threat?
Fabbs
08-17-2014, 11:20 PM
Not a fact...... The cop knew for a fact that the young man was not armed,.....
Make up your mind.
Thank you Janteal, no further questions.
Judge: You may step down.
Look, if this is not another jury of racist agenda driven (OJ 1) or retards (Casey Anthony) or a paid off judge (Koward K Stern and Doktor Ersovich) then the mudslinging like you are trying is gonna be exposed just for what it is.
Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.
"The cop should have gotten back in car" :cry. You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.
I believe the cop made a heat of the moment decision. However, they said he "held his hands up" supposedly. He didn't reach for a weapon to defend himself. In other words, there was no reason to shoot him. Just prosecute his ass and make him do time for being a dumbass. If he's going to reach for an officer's gun, that's almost an intent to kill. We're talking about reaching for an "officer's" gun. Not a regular person who is threatening your life with a gun your face but an officer of the law who is trying to maintain the area.
If he gained possession of the gun, who knows what he would have done.
I believe that situation was an adrenaline rush......had to be. A guy reaching for your gun and you didn't know what he was capable of.
InRareForm
08-17-2014, 11:25 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvRL73mIQAAezYz.jpg
Clipper Nation
08-17-2014, 11:35 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvRL73mIQAAezYz.jpg
Nice strawman, but plenty of small-government advocates have been up in arms over the militarization of police because of how the peaceful protestors and journalists were treated....
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 12:00 AM
How is a wounded unarmed person a threat to a trained police officer holding a gun?
thats useless unless you shoot it, tbh
InRareForm
08-18-2014, 12:07 AM
Nice strawman, but plenty of small-government advocates have been up in arms over the militarization of police because of how the peaceful protestors and journalists were treated....
but where are the enthusiast carriers, why aren't they there?
RD2191
08-18-2014, 12:08 AM
thats useless unless you shoot it, tbh
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/214685/pistol-whip-o.gif
I don't see the race factor involved here.
InRareForm
08-18-2014, 12:39 AM
Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.
InRareForm
08-18-2014, 12:43 AM
https://vine.co/v/M3iWetEFMPu
on their own property being shot at.
wow.
Jacob1983
08-18-2014, 01:18 AM
What if the cop was reaching for a taser but shot his gun? Oh wait, that already happened.
Fabbs
08-18-2014, 01:20 AM
Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.
Now if they can just get the gas on both sides......
Fabbs
08-18-2014, 01:25 AM
Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.
Hey, we might have hope for a truce and some peace.
Here is one of the protestors asking for a cease fire:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/08/video-undefined-1DAD67E200000578-443_636x358.jpg
SnakeBoy
08-18-2014, 02:03 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0
FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.
One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.
Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.
The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.
Dr. Michael Baden, right, and Prof. Shawn Parcells in Ferguson, Mo. Dr. Baden, based in New York, examined Michael Brown. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said Sunday that the Justice Department would conduct its own autopsy, in addition to the one performed by local officials and this private one because, a department spokesman said, of “the extraordinary circumstances involved in this case and at the request of the Brown family.”
The preliminary autopsy results are the first time that some of the critical information resulting in Mr. Brown’s death has been made public. Thousands of protesters demanding information and justice for what was widely viewed as a reckless shooting took to the streets here in rallies that ranged from peaceful to violent.
Mr. Brown died last week in a confrontation with a police officer here in this suburb of St. Louis. The police department has come under harsh criticism for refusing to clarify the circumstances of the shooting and for responding to protests with military-style operational gear.
“People have been asking: How many times was he shot? This information could have been released on Day 1,” Dr. Baden said in an interview after performing the autopsy. “They don’t do that, even as feelings built up among the citizenry that there was a cover-up. We are hoping to alleviate that.”
Dr. Baden said that while Mr. Brown was shot at least six times, only three bullets were recovered from his body. But he has not yet seen the X-rays showing where the bullets were found, which would clarify the autopsy results. Nor has he had access to witness and police statements.
Dr. Baden provided a diagram of the entry wounds, and noted that the six shots produced numerous wounds. Some of the bullets entered and exited several times, including one that left at least five different wounds.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.
“We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car,” he said.
Dr. Baden, 80, is a well-known New York-based medical examiner, who is one of only about 400 board-certified forensic pathologists in the nation. He reviewed the autopsies of both President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and has performed more than 20,000 autopsies himself.
He is best known for having hosted the HBO show “Autopsy,” but he rankles when he is called a “celebrity medical examiner,” saying that the vast majority of what he does has nothing to do with celebrities.
Dr. Baden said that because of the tremendous attention to the case, he waived his $10,000 fee.
Prof. Shawn L. Parcells, a pathologist assistant based in Kansas, assisted Dr. Baden.
“You do this for the families,” Mr. Parcells said.
The two medical experts conducted the four-hour examination Sunday at the Austin A. Layne Mortuary in St. Louis. Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for Mr. Brown’s family who paid their travel expenses, hired them.
“The sheer number of bullets and the way they were scattered all over his body showed this police officer had a brazen disregard for the very people he was supposed to protect in that community,” Mr. Crump said. “We want to make sure people understand what this case is about: This case is about a police officer executing a young unarmed man in broad daylight.”
A spokesman for the Ferguson Police Department, Tim Zoll, said the police had not seen a report of the autopsy and therefore had no comment on it.
Dr. Baden said he consulted with the St. Louis County medical examiner before conducting the autopsy.
One of the bullets shattered Mr. Brown’s right eye, traveled through his face, exited his jaw and re-entered his collarbone. The last two shots in the head would have stopped him in his tracks and were likely the last fired.
Mr. Brown, he said, would not have survived the shooting even if he had been taken to a hospital right away. The autopsy indicated that he was otherwise healthy.
Dr. Baden said it was unusual for the federal government to conduct a third autopsy, but dueling examinations often occur when there is so much distrust of the authorities. The county of St. Louis has conducted an autopsy, and the results have not yet been released.
He stressed that his examination was not to determine whether the shooting was justified.
“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden, who retired from the state police in 2011. “Right now there is too little information to forensically reconstruct the shooting.”
No matter what conclusions can be drawn from Dr. Baden’s work, Mr. Brown’s death remains marked by shifting and contradictory accounts more than a week after it occurred. The shooting is under investigation by St. Louis County and by the F.B.I., working with the Justice Department’s civil rights division and the office of Attorney General Holder.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/08/18/us/SUB-JP-BROWN-2/SUB-JP-BROWN-2-superJumbo.jpg
Fabbs
08-18-2014, 02:13 AM
^^^ so the eyewitnesses that said he was shot in the back? :lol
St. Louis County police said several protesters had thrown Molotov cocktails toward the officers before authorities shot tear gas toward them.
St. Louis County police said at least two people had been shot in Ferguson, but not by police.
National Guard is on the way. Good. Dk why they waited this long.
Chomag
08-18-2014, 02:15 AM
National guard being called in.
http://news.yahoo.com/missouri-governor-sends-national-guard-ferguson-070038626.html (http://news.yahoo.com/missouri-governor-sends-national-guard-ferguson-070038626.html)
Well this should get interesting.
Chomag
08-18-2014, 02:18 AM
Last time I checked National Guard dosn't use rubber bullets.
angrydude
08-18-2014, 02:39 AM
Of course. :rolleyes That medical report is going to change this story. After all this its going to turn out the main thing the cop did wrong was shoot too many times. This will let mainstream america dismiss the very real problem of trigger happy cop problems as just another travon martin thing. Why can't black people riot when the facts are on their side for a change? Why couldn't they riot when that black man was strangled to death in NY for selling cigarettes?
SnakeBoy
08-18-2014, 03:15 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSYR2VIMAEEhcm.jpg:large
They done went and looted the McDonalds, employees locked themselves in a storage room for safety. Well that should end the chaos. With no McNuggets or McRibs available the blacks should move out of the area pretty quick.
Proxy
08-18-2014, 03:18 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvSYR2VIMAEEhcm.jpg:large
They done went and looted the McDonalds, employees locked themselves in a storage room for safety. Well that should end the chaos. With no McNuggets or McRibs available the blacks should move out of the area pretty quick.
they broke into mcdonalds to get milk for tear gas victims
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 03:18 AM
:lol looting in memory of Michael Brown, so fucking fitting
Proxy
08-18-2014, 03:21 AM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/8feb1bdac1ad3d2bae6f25e16a351843/tumblr_inline_nahie8n12P1qb1kmw.png
https://31.media.tumblr.com/923a485c86170007d383da25e423ff85/tumblr_inline_nahifmizo41qb1kmw.png
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Proxy
08-18-2014, 03:27 AM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/8e32c78118dd543e6073a97f0d777f85/tumblr_inline_nahiegulKL1qb1kmw.png
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spurraider21
08-18-2014, 03:44 AM
what kind of mcdonalds is closed before curfew hours? :lol
imo thats what needs to be investigated
angrydude
08-18-2014, 03:46 AM
Yea, that curfew was the latest in a number of real dumb things done by public officials there.
"Hey, I have an idea. Let's create an arbitrary time to kick people off the streets that is inevitably going to lead to confrontation between people and the cops. That will makes sure there is less confrontation between people and the cops."
People treat you the way you treat them.
Why can't the police just respond to looters when, you know, they start looting? Just guard the local businesses for a week. Eventually it will die down. That town isn't even that big...
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 03:53 AM
i'm calling bullshit on them "needing to break in to get milk"
http://www.mcmissouri.com/811/
the place is open 24 hours :downspin:
Proxy
08-18-2014, 03:54 AM
i'm calling bullshit on them "needing to break in to get milk"
http://www.mcmissouri.com/811/
the place is open 24 hours :downspin:
so it's out of the question that they'd close for the safety of their employees?
SnakeBoy
08-18-2014, 03:56 AM
they broke into mcdonalds to get milk for tear gas victims
Well they're gonna be upset tomorrow when they realize no more McNuggets or McRibs.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 03:56 AM
so it's out of the question that they'd close for the safety of their employees?
new hours haven't been reflected on the website :lol
also apparently it was open and the employees reportedly barricaded themselves in a storage room for their own safety
SnakeBoy
08-18-2014, 04:01 AM
Yea, that curfew was the latest in a number of real dumb things done by public officials there.
"Hey, I have an idea. Let's create an arbitrary time to kick people off the streets that is inevitably going to lead to confrontation between people and the cops. That will makes sure there is less confrontation between people and the cops."
People treat you the way you treat them.
Why can't the police just respond to looters when, you know, they start looting? Just guard the local businesses for a week. Eventually it will die down. That town isn't even that big...
The violence started at 8:30, the curfew had nothing to do with it. Reports are that people had been shot, Molotov cocktails were being thrown, and the looting fun had began...THEN the police moved in. The police really should just get out of the way and let these fools destroy their own home.
Proxy
08-18-2014, 04:03 AM
new hours haven't been reflected on the website :lol
also apparently it was open and the employees reportedly barricaded themselves in a storage room for their own safety
People are being selective on both sides. Since the police are so eager to keep media out of this as much as possible, I'm leaning towards the protesters pov until someone shows me the carfax.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 04:05 AM
People are being selective on both sides. Since the police are so eager to keep media out of this as much as possible, I'm leaning towards the protesters pov until someone shows me the carfax.
why do you choose the protestors/looters as the side to believe by default? did you read anywhere that they claimed the mcdonalds was closed?
Proxy
08-18-2014, 04:09 AM
why do you choose the protestors/looters as the side to believe by default?
Thinking about the journalists that were arrested, al jazeera cameramen getting gassed and having their equipment disabled, arresting people who were taking video with their phone. Things like that are why
angrydude
08-18-2014, 04:10 AM
The violence started at 8:30, the curfew had nothing to do with it. Reports are that people had been shot, Molotov cocktails were being thrown, and the looting fun had began...THEN the police moved in. The police really should just get out of the way and let these fools destroy their own home.
Can't keep track of the nightly developments. Fact is the situation is so screwed up now that people are looking for targets and the police have made themselves a mighty big one.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 04:12 AM
Thinking about the journalists that were arrested, al jazeera cameramen getting gassed and having their equipment disabled, arresting people who were taking video with their phone. Things like that are why
you mean the journalists that were arrested and released within a handful of minutes? k
Proxy
08-18-2014, 04:18 AM
you mean the journalists that were arrested and released within a handful of minutes? k
The specific story you're talking about isn't one of the three I referenced, but even if it was, why would police handcuff them initially? You're missing the point either way.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 04:23 AM
The specific story you're talking about isn't one of the three I referenced, but even if it was, why would police handcuff them initially? You're missing the point either way.
please post the story of the journalists you were referring to. i'd love to learn more of the situation. all of my opinions are flexible based on information presented. if you can enlighten me, i'll be enlightened
Proxy
08-18-2014, 04:42 AM
please post the story of the journalists you were referring to. i'd love to learn more of the situation. all of my opinions are flexible based on information presented. if you can enlighten me, i'll be enlightened
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/13/washington-post-reporter-arrested-in-ferguson/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ferguson-swat-team-raids-mcdonalds-arrests-msm-journalists-eating/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/14/police_in_ferguson_tear_gas_tv_reporters_al_jazeer a_camera_crew_flees.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maA1FUJqhew
something I read in the youtube comments, was that the autopsy shows he was shot from a distance?... I haven't looked at the autopsy report yet, but I know people lied about him being shot in the back and I know he advanced towards the cop in some fashion according to 2 people... and the last thing I'll take into account is a comment on youtube, but it was interesting to read that. And does that full video show him paying for shit anyways? who knows what happened with the shooting at this point
scanry
08-18-2014, 05:41 AM
This sh!t would never happen in South America, Asia or Africa. Every darn issue has to be about race in America. Them Canadians are doing alright despite being more ethnic than America.
TDMVPDPOY
08-18-2014, 06:08 AM
let me ask...did they buy the milk from mcdonalds or they looted the milk from there?
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:14 AM
This sh!t would never happen in South America, Asia or Africa. Every darn issue has to be about race in America. Them Canadians are doing alright despite being more ethnic than America.
ding. ding.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:15 AM
let me ask...did they buy the milk from mcdonalds or they looted the milk from there?
looted, broke through the glass doors/windows, etc.
spurraider21
08-18-2014, 06:29 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/13/washington-post-reporter-arrested-in-ferguson/
from this article: About a half an hour after arriving at the holding cell, they were told that all media members could leave without any charges being filed.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ferguson-swat-team-raids-mcdonalds-arrests-msm-journalists-eating/
this is a different article about the same guy. quote from this specific article: The two men were eventually released without charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maA1FUJqhew
i hadn't seen this before, and its interesting. its still not clear what exactly the dispute there was about. regardless, i've never called the reported robbery justification for murder, but it merely fuels some speculation as to what may have caused his confrontation with the police to become violent (if he was worried they were coming for him, etc).
something I read in the youtube comments, was that the autopsy shows he was shot from a distance?... I haven't looked at the autopsy report yet, but I know people lied about him being shot in the back and I know he advanced towards the cop in some fashion according to 2 people... and the last thing I'll take into account is a comment on youtube, but it was interesting to read that. And does that full video show him paying for shit anyways? who knows what happened with the shooting at this point
the distance is sort of irrelevant. if he was charging at the police from 20 feet away it still could be perceived as a threat. however, if autopsy reports (i haven't seen them myself yet) actually show that NONE of the bullets entered from his back, it sort of shits on all the "eyewitness" accounts we have heard.
its a developing story, and as i've said from the very beginning, i'm waiting for facts to come out. i just know a vast majority of people's reactions and initial perceptions are just fueled by race, which is stupid. people want a conviction/crucification of the cop before knowing any of the facts of what went down... literally just because it was a white-on-black thing. just like the zimmerman case.
TDMVPDPOY
08-18-2014, 06:32 AM
shouldve just purge them and obama would do nothing
benefactor
08-18-2014, 07:54 AM
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Again...what the fuck are kids doing out there? The parents know there have already been confrontations with police. I guess making a "statement" is more important than the safety of their own children.
If they were normal parents with normal functioning brains they would have left their kids at home. Actually, they wouldn't be out there in the first place because they are putting themselves at risk and they have kids who depend on them.
Fpoonsie
08-18-2014, 08:08 AM
Police are arresting journalists w/o charges, confiscating phones and physically warding off cameramen, and still doing so w/o nameplates on their uniforms.
And yet we should still trust these fucks?
they broke into mcdonalds to get milk for tear gas victims
Did they leave money on the counter to pay for it? Oh, they probably didn't.
How about these people stay in their homes at night for a while. Then maybe they wouldn't be "tear gas victims". Why do they have protest at midnight?
SupremeGuy
08-18-2014, 08:14 AM
So they already have proof that he was charging the officer, which discredits all the stories that he was shot in the back and discredits all the witnesses that made that claim, and people are still bitching? It doesn't really have to be said again, but these idiots are rioting/looting just because they're fucking stupid ghetto trash, no other reason.
Can the people who said they saw the "innocent/honor roll" student get shot in the back get charged for anything since they basically started all of this with their lies? Inciting a riot or anything?
SupremeGuy
08-18-2014, 08:16 AM
How about these people stay in their homes at night for a while. Then maybe they wouldn't be "tear gas victims". Why do they have protest at midnight?But but but michael brown could have been any of their children!
While we're at it, why don't they fucking teach their children to not be ghetto thugs/thieves and to listen to an officer when he tells you to do something? Black community wants change, it starts there, tbh.
You have be incredibly stupid to think that any of these looters actually give a shit about blindside, tbh. They're just looking for trouble, and when they find it, they immediately become giant fucking pussies and play the victim card. lol Bunch of faggots.
RsxPiimp
08-18-2014, 08:23 AM
Wouldn't A 6' 4 250+ pound angry, and defiant black man be a pretty powerful weapon with in itself?
Depends. If this 6'4 250lb was just an out of shape, high school kid, probably not. I'd use my taser on your ass before shooting you. I have to wait for the full story but so far this sounds like an excessive use of force. And if all reports are true, the PO has an immaculate record and this may have been his first incident dealing with someone who resisted arrest. The sight of a big black kid attacking him may have put immense fear and his instinct was to kill to defend himself.
I do like to think that everyone has an objective view when they face a threat and in this case firing a weapon may be a justifiable act.
My guess is there won't be any criminal charges and the PD may face a civil lawsuit with Brown's fam receiving a huge settlement.
SnakeBoy
08-18-2014, 08:47 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/13/washington-post-reporter-arrested-in-ferguson/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ferguson-swat-team-raids-mcdonalds-arrests-msm-journalists-eating/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/14/police_in_ferguson_tear_gas_tv_reporters_al_jazeer a_camera_crew_flees.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maA1FUJqhew
something I read in the youtube comments, was that the autopsy shows he was shot from a distance?... I haven't looked at the autopsy report yet, but I know people lied about him being shot in the back and I know he advanced towards the cop in some fashion according to 2 people... and the last thing I'll take into account is a comment on youtube, but it was interesting to read that. And does that full video show him paying for shit anyways? who knows what happened with the shooting at this point
According to a medical examiner talking on cnn, "shot from a distance" in the autopsy report just means greater than 24" because, for a handgun, under 24" there would be gun powder residue/burns on the body. He also they do not have a way to tell from the body if the shots were fired from 25" or 25 feet.
cantthinkofanything
08-18-2014, 08:51 AM
Battleflag
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Fpoonsie
08-18-2014, 08:58 AM
Battleflag
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Wow. Haven't listened to this track since...forever ago. Greatness.
cantthinkofanything
08-18-2014, 09:01 AM
Wow. Haven't listened to this track since...forever ago. Greatness.
same here...just popped in my head...
leemajors
08-18-2014, 09:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
Oliver does a weekly beatdown of the news media's hypocracy.
leemajors
08-18-2014, 09:20 AM
Oliver does a weekly beatdown of the news media's hypocracy.
I don't think you watched the clip :lol
Aztecfan03
08-18-2014, 10:06 AM
The autopsy doesn't clear the cop, but it does blow up all the eyewitnesses stories that said he was fleeing and shot in the back.
TDMVPDPOY
08-18-2014, 10:16 AM
The autopsy doesn't clear the cop, but it does blow up all the eyewitnesses stories that said he was fleeing and shot in the back.
so whats the difference between this case and the old man shooting 2 thieves who robbed his house and leaving the property still got shot dead?
Aztecfan03
08-18-2014, 10:31 AM
so whats the difference between this case and the old man shooting 2 thieves who robbed his house and leaving the property still got shot dead?
this case we still aren't sure if Brown was surrendering or a threat. I don't really remember the thieves case, but if they were running away they weren't a threat.
Bill_Brasky
08-18-2014, 10:49 AM
this case we still aren't sure if Brown was surrendering or a threat. I don't really remember the thieves case, but if they were running away they weren't a threat.
Based on the entry wounds, i wouldnt say his hands were up when he got shot.
ChumpDumper
08-18-2014, 10:52 AM
The SpursTalk Medical Examiners Corps springs into action.
Aztecfan03
08-18-2014, 10:57 AM
Based on the entry wounds, i wouldnt say his hands were up when he got shot.
Some people(i dont think experts) have said it is indicative on raised arms and surrendering, but I don't see it why a cop would shoot that high.
Bill_Brasky
08-18-2014, 10:58 AM
Sorry, was that post too on-topic for your troll obsessed self?
cantthinkofanything
08-18-2014, 10:58 AM
The SpursTalk Medical Examiners Corps springs into action.
And Queen Spur herself chimes in and opens her mouth expectantly...eagerly waiting for shots of jism to spurt his way
Bill_Brasky
08-18-2014, 10:59 AM
Some people(i dont think experts) have said it is indicative on raised arms and surrendering, but I don't see it why a cop would shoot that high.
it is a defensive wound. but you still gotta determine whether he was charging like the cop says.
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