Michael Brown shot dead by police

[SnakeBoy]

Some people(i dont think experts) have said it is indicative on raised arms and surrendering, but I don't see it why a cop would shoot that high.

Prolly just trying to get him to drop the swisher sweets.

[ChumpDumper]

And Queen Spur herself chimes in and opens her mouth expectantly...eagerly waiting for shots of jism to spurt his wayThat doesn't make any sense.

[cantthinkofanything]

That doesn't make any sense.

doesn't it?

[ChumpDumper]

doesn't it?No.

[cantthinkofanything]

No.

which part doesn't make sense?

[ChumpDumper]

which part doesn't make sense?None of it makes sense. Especially your hostility.

[SnakeBoy]

That doesn't make any sense.

He's saying you're a cum loving bitch.

[cantthinkofanything]

None of it makes sense. Especially your hostility.

you feel that I'm hostile?

[ChumpDumper]

He's saying you're a cum loving bitch.Why?


you feel that I'm hostile?Sure.

[cantthinkofanything]

Why?

Sure.

why?

[SnakeBoy]

Why?


Idk, I'm just playing the translator.

[ChumpDumper]

why?It's a hostile statement coming out of nowhere.

Why the hostility?

[ChumpDumper]

Idk, I'm just playing the translator.Why are you being hostile?

This thread sure has people worked up.

[UZER]

Don't talk to me about real life. I was raised in the hood, son. And the cop knew he didn't have a gun seeing as the man ran away, if he had a gun and was going to use it you think he'd run from the cop? The man was 30-35 feet away according to the cop, that is in no way an immediate threat, especially without a gun.

:lol ok tough guy. I grew up in the hood too. Had guns pulled on me and my friends in my front yard. Saw many a drive-by. You have no more authority on this issue than anyone else here.

If the dude was surrendering with hands up and he was blasted, then that is absolutely wrong on the cop.

If Brown charged the cop in any manner, then he put himself in the position to get shot.

[cantthinkofanything]

It's a hostile statement coming out of nowhere.

Why the hostility?

the Queen Spur statement?

[ChumpDumper]

the Queen Spur statement?I can see you're upset. Sorry to bother you.

[cantthinkofanything]

I can see you're upset. Sorry to bother you.

did you watch any of the videos I posted this morning?

[ChumpDumper]

did you watch any of the videos I posted this morning?Are those what upset you?

[cantthinkofanything]

Are those what upset you?

no...I'm not upset...I was just axing if you watched any of the videos. It seemed like our discussion was getting stagnant so I changed the subject.

[ChumpDumper]

no...I'm not upset...I was just axing if you watched any of the videos. It seemed like our discussion was getting stagnant so I changed the subject.You really seem upset.

[cantthinkofanything]

You really seem upset.

do I?

[RD2191]

:lol ok tough guy. I grew up in the hood too. Had guns pulled on me and my friends in my front yard. Saw many a drive-by. You have no more authority on this issue than anyone else here.

If the dude was surrendering with hands up and he was blasted, then that is absolutely wrong on the cop.

If Brown charged the cop in any manner, then he put himself in the position to get shot.
LOL, yeah sure. The cop is a huge vagina, this has been confirmed.

[UZER]

LOL, yeah sure. The cop is a huge vagina, this has been confirmed.

You're probably one of the gang banging assholes that pulled the gun on us :lol

[RD2191]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
Mutha fuka dropping truth bombs. Whack ass cops thinking they're soldiers. ROFL.

[RD2191]

You're probably one of the gang banging assholes that pulled the gun on us :lol
Who you been talking to? Jk.

[Infinite_limit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
10 seconds into the video clip "Robbery is absolutely irrelevant"

Closed the video.

[benefactor]

10 seconds into the video clip "Robbery is absolutely irrelevant"

Closed the video.
:tu

[RD2191]

10 seconds into the video clip "Robbery is absolutely irrelevant"

Closed the video.
Because you're a faggot, tbh. Dude drops some truth nukes on the white community and cops that think they're going to war in Iraq.

[RD2191]

:tu
Lol, another faggot appears.

[Infinite_limit]

Because you're a faggot, tbh. Dude drops some truth nukes on the white community and cops that think they're going to war in Iraq.
Many parts of America are worse off than Iraq under Saddam.

Of course the White community will feel this way. Ghetto will not be accepted. These individuals will either conform, rot in jail or be buried.

[RD2191]

Many parts of America are worse off than Iraq under Saddam.

Of course the White community will feel this way. Ghetto will not be accepted. These individuals will either conform, rot in jail or be buried.
:lol

[Infinite_limit]

:lol
A good portion of the USA is a shit-hole. Not sure what rock you've been living under

[RD2191]

A good portion of the USA is a shit-hole. Not sure what rock you've been living under
Yeah, not really. There are shitty places but if you're willing to work you can always provide a meal and a roof for you and your family.

[leemajors]

10 seconds into the video clip "Robbery is absolutely irrelevant"

Closed the video.

Weird, he says that over 90 seconds in.

[angrydude]

The robbery is relevant to Brown's state of mind at the time. It lends credence to the idea that he would try to take the cops' gun, run away, then change his mind and charge him. If that happens the cop was probably legally justified in shooting him.

The more this develops the more it looks like Brown raised his hands once he realized he was shot and the cop kept shooting. Given the cop's split second reaction time and his own state of mind, it's going to be hard to crucify the cop for that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j

An open letter to Captain Ronald Johnson

I have to call you out.

I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.
Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.
But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.
Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
Boy did it.
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.
Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.
Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:
On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.
Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.
So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?
Bullshit.

[cantthinkofanything]

The robbery is relevant to Brown's state of mind at the time. It lends credence to the idea that he would try to take the cops' gun, run away, then change his mind and charge him. If that happens the cop was probably legally justified in shooting him.

The more this develops the more it looks like Brown raised his hands once he realized he was shot and the cop kept shooting. Given the cop's split second reaction time and his own state of mind, it's going to be hard to crucify the cop for that.

Now it's come to light that he was raging on drugs as well. Suppose that will be "irrelevant" also.

[RD2191]

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j

An open letter to Captain Ronald Johnson

I have to call you out.

I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.
Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.
But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.
Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
Boy did it.
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.
Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.
Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:
On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.
Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.
So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?
Bullshit.
tldr

[leemajors]

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j

An open letter to Captain Ronald Johnson

I have to call you out.

I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.
Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.
But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.
Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
Boy did it.
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.
Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.
Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:
On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.
Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.
So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?
Bullshit.

:tu

[ChumpDumper]

Now it's come to light that he was raging on drugs as well. Suppose that will be "irrelevant" also.Link?

[angrydude]

Link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/county-investigation-michael-brown-was-shot-from-the-front-had-marijuana-in-his-system/

Pot doesn't normally make you aggressive though, does it? It hampers your judgment though.

[ChumpDumper]

crofl raging on marijuana

[cantthinkofanything]

Link?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238305&page=18&p=7556451#post7556451

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238305&page=18&p=7556451#post7556451Pretty stupid. Is this fallout from being so upset earlier?

[RD2191]

crofl raging on marijuana
:lolNo peace but yes. LOL

[cantthinkofanything]

crofl raging on marijuana

marijuana is just the vehicle. the payload was either PCP or cocaine.

[angrydude]

And now that people have had time to travel, the assholes have descended on the town to make things worse.


FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson
http://wtvr.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warns-of-new-black-panther-party-leader-inciting-violence-in-ferguson/

[ChumpDumper]

marijuana is just the vehicle. the payload was either PCP or cocaine.So where did you read that it was PCP or cocaine?

[cantthinkofanything]

So where did you read that it was PCP or cocaine?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238305&page=19&p=7556483#post7556483

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238305&page=19&p=7556483#post7556483So you just made it up.

Stupid.

[cantthinkofanything]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/

also from Kodster

kodster (http://www.westernjournalism.com/members/kodster/) August 17, 2014 at 11:58 am

Miles, the guy was 6’4″, 292-lb, LINEBACKER football player (I saw some of his photos from another site… and there’s one where he’s wearing his school jacket with the League Champion Football team on it). There was ONE shot, while they were struggling for the gun, in the squad SUV… I don’t believe Michael was shot then, but it scared him, and that’s when he broke away and ran off the 35 ft. But during the struggle, what started it was a vicious punch to the officer’s face… that’s what he was hospitalized for… Michael smashed half his face in. That’s the football-player mentality there. When the officer was able to get out of his vehicle, he ordered the two to “Freeze”, because he’d been assaulted, which is a felony in itself, even if he hadn’t been in the convenience store strong-arm robbery. And he pursued the two. The two stopped, turned around, and put up their hands, but Michael Brown taunted the officer “what, are ya gonna shoot me?”, and then proceeded to run at the officer, with the intent of tackling him like a linebacker or tackle would do, while playing the game. The adrenaline level in that kid was so high, plus I’m sure he was on something, like PCP, meth, cocaine… that he didn’t care. He was shot twice, and the impact spun him around, while the officer continued to fire, until he could get a head shot and bring Michael down for good. Again, wait for the darn toxicology report to come out and confirm this.
The DOJ, DHS, and White House want this situation escalated and out of control so badly, so they can institute martial law. They’re also going after the officer for potential civil rights violations, as well as the city of Ferguson. DOJ sent “community organizers” (which everyone knows are in reality, AGITATORS) there. There are 40 FBI agents there on the ground, doing interviews. DOJ also sent their ENTIRE Civil Rights Division down there, interviewing. Two years ago, there was a martial law exercise in the St. Louis area, and this follows their playbook. Put two and two together, and stop using Common Core math, and figure it all out!


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/#trKigZr58uf0yMay.99

[cantthinkofanything]

from Donald Joy
http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/

Donald Joy (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#) Roninmd (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#comment-1546810819) • 20 hours ago (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#comment-1547068992) Baton to the head is considered deadly force, genius. Those of us who are expected to comply with use of force/deadly force policy know that once someone, especially someone Brown's size and aggressiveness/PCP-likely influenced behavior has already tried to get your gun and is still coming at you, you DROP THEM.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/

also from Kodster

kodster (http://www.westernjournalism.com/members/kodster/) August 17, 2014 at 11:58 am

Miles, the guy was 6’4″, 292-lb, LINEBACKER football player (I saw some of his photos from another site… and there’s one where he’s wearing his school jacket with the League Champion Football team on it). There was ONE shot, while they were struggling for the gun, in the squad SUV… I don’t believe Michael was shot then, but it scared him, and that’s when he broke away and ran off the 35 ft. But during the struggle, what started it was a vicious punch to the officer’s face… that’s what he was hospitalized for… Michael smashed half his face in. That’s the football-player mentality there. When the officer was able to get out of his vehicle, he ordered the two to “Freeze”, because he’d been assaulted, which is a felony in itself, even if he hadn’t been in the convenience store strong-arm robbery. And he pursued the two. The two stopped, turned around, and put up their hands, but Michael Brown taunted the officer “what, are ya gonna shoot me?”, and then proceeded to run at the officer, with the intent of tackling him like a linebacker or tackle would do, while playing the game. The adrenaline level in that kid was so high, plus I’m sure he was on something, like PCP, meth, cocaine… that he didn’t care. He was shot twice, and the impact spun him around, while the officer continued to fire, until he could get a head shot and bring Michael down for good. Again, wait for the darn toxicology report to come out and confirm this.
The DOJ, DHS, and White House want this situation escalated and out of control so badly, so they can institute martial law. They’re also going after the officer for potential civil rights violations, as well as the city of Ferguson. DOJ sent “community organizers” (which everyone knows are in reality, AGITATORS) there. There are 40 FBI agents there on the ground, doing interviews. DOJ also sent their ENTIRE Civil Rights Division down there, interviewing. Two years ago, there was a martial law exercise in the St. Louis area, and this follows their playbook. Put two and two together, and stop using Common Core math, and figure it all out!


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/#trKigZr58uf0yMay.99So some dude writing a comment made it up.

Stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

from Donald Joy
http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/

Donald Joy (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#) Roninmd (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#comment-1546810819) • 20 hours ago (http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#comment-1547068992) Baton to the head is considered deadly force, genius. Those of us who are expected to comply with use of force/deadly force policy know that once someone, especially someone Brown's size and aggressiveness/PCP-likely influenced behavior has already tried to get your gun and is still coming at you, you DROP THEM.
So some dude writing a comment made it up.

Stupid.

lol googling desperately after you were called out.

[RD2191]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/

also from Kodster

kodster (http://www.westernjournalism.com/members/kodster/) August 17, 2014 at 11:58 am

Miles, the guy was 6’4″, 292-lb, LINEBACKER football player (I saw some of his photos from another site… and there’s one where he’s wearing his school jacket with the League Champion Football team on it). There was ONE shot, while they were struggling for the gun, in the squad SUV… I don’t believe Michael was shot then, but it scared him, and that’s when he broke away and ran off the 35 ft. But during the struggle, what started it was a vicious punch to the officer’s face… that’s what he was hospitalized for… Michael smashed half his face in. That’s the football-player mentality there. When the officer was able to get out of his vehicle, he ordered the two to “Freeze”, because he’d been assaulted, which is a felony in itself, even if he hadn’t been in the convenience store strong-arm robbery. And he pursued the two. The two stopped, turned around, and put up their hands, but Michael Brown taunted the officer “what, are ya gonna shoot me?”, and then proceeded to run at the officer, with the intent of tackling him like a linebacker or tackle would do, while playing the game. The adrenaline level in that kid was so high, plus I’m sure he was on something, like PCP, meth, cocaine… that he didn’t care. He was shot twice, and the impact spun him around, while the officer continued to fire, until he could get a head shot and bring Michael down for good. Again, wait for the darn toxicology report to come out and confirm this.
The DOJ, DHS, and White House want this situation escalated and out of control so badly, so they can institute martial law. They’re also going after the officer for potential civil rights violations, as well as the city of Ferguson. DOJ sent “community organizers” (which everyone knows are in reality, AGITATORS) there. There are 40 FBI agents there on the ground, doing interviews. DOJ also sent their ENTIRE Civil Rights Division down there, interviewing. Two years ago, there was a martial law exercise in the St. Louis area, and this follows their playbook. Put two and two together, and stop using Common Core math, and figure it all out!


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/#trKigZr58uf0yMay.99
rofl, speculative journalism being passed off as fact.

[ChumpDumper]

rofl, speculative journalism being passed off as fact.Worse, it's an internet comment.

[cantthinkofanything]

you guys have already made up your mind obviously. but I've presented several sources including myself. we can agree to disagree but one that's not debatable is that a 6'4 black man, high on PCP, and running full speed at a cop is something that might require several shots to bring down.

[ChumpDumper]

you guys have already made up your mind obviously. but I've presented several sources including myself. we can agree to disagree but one that's not debatable is that a 6'4 black man, high on PCP, and running full speed at a cop is something that might require several shots to bring down.We can all agree that you lied and look stupid.

[StrengthAndHonor]

you guys have already made up your mind obviously. but I've presented several sources including myself. we can agree to disagree but one that's not debatable is that a 6'4 black man, high on PCP, and running full speed at a cop is something that might require several shots to bring down.
None of this has been proven as fact.

[cantthinkofanything]

We can all agree that you lied and look stupid.

so are you saying he was not on drugs?

[ChumpDumper]

so are you saying he was not on drugs?Straw man.

I am saying you lied about his being on PCP and cocaine.

[cantthinkofanything]

Straw man.

I am saying you lied about his being on PCP and cocaine.

Might have been meth.

[ChumpDumper]

Might have been meth.Another lie.

[cantthinkofanything]

Another lie.

nope. you heard it here first. he was fucked up and got shoosted for it.

[ChumpDumper]

nope. you heard it here first. he was fucked up and got shoosted for it.Yep. You lied again.

Why do you insist on lying?

[Clipper Nation]

A good portion of the USA is a shit-hole. Not sure what rock you've been living under
Shut up faggot, you slurp fucking Poland on a daily basis :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep. You lied again.

Why do you insist on lying?

LOL. Why do you insist that I am lying? Because I said Brown was on meth or coke or PCP? If it turns out he was, am I still lying? Or would it be some other violation?

[ChumpDumper]

LOL. Why do you insist that I am lying?Because you lied.

It's not rocket science.

[cantthinkofanything]

Because you lied.

It's not rocket science.

did you ever watch Good Morning Vietnam?

[ChumpDumper]

did you ever watch Good Morning Vietnam?Inasmuch as it has nothing to do with your lying or this topic, I don't feel the need to answer.

[Fabbs]

Why don't you two get a room.

[cantthinkofanything]

Why don't you two get a room.

my bad.

[silverblk mystix]

So the "witnesses" who had time to digest what they had seen, time to think about what they just witnessed and were in a rage at the "injustice" on the poor innocent teen -


got it 100% wrong when they stated that the cop shot the kid in the back -




yet


these same people want to crucify the cop who had maybe a second to make sure he was responding "correctly" after being assaulted and wrestled with and almost having his weapon taken away -


even though they had plenty of time - they got it wrong -


but the cop better be goddamn perfect!



:lmao:lmao:lmao

[mingus]

How the hell are they going to get to the bottom of whether or not Brown was charging or not and did or didn't have his hands up?

[silverblk mystix]

How the hell are they going to get to the bottom of whether or not Brown was charging or not and did or didn't have his hands up?


Probably by piecing together a few things like the angle of the bullets as they entered, the distance, etc...


Unless another video or other piece of evidence surfaces.

[Proxy]

According to a medical examiner talking on cnn, "shot from a distance" in the autopsy report just means greater than 24" because, for a handgun, under 24" there would be gun powder residue/burns on the body. He also they do not have a way to tell from the body if the shots were fired from 25" or 25 feet.

:tu thanks


from this article: About a half an hour after arriving at the holding cell, they were told that all media members could leave without any charges being filed.

this is a different article about the same guy. quote from this specific article: The two men were eventually released without charges.

i hadn't seen this before, and its interesting. its still not clear what exactly the dispute there was about. regardless, i've never called the reported robbery justification for murder, but it merely fuels some speculation as to what may have caused his confrontation with the police to become violent (if he was worried they were coming for him, etc).

the distance is sort of irrelevant. if he was charging at the police from 20 feet away it still could be perceived as a threat. however, if autopsy reports (i haven't seen them myself yet) actually show that NONE of the bullets entered from his back, it sort of shits on all the "eyewitness" accounts we have heard.

its a developing story, and as i've said from the very beginning, i'm waiting for facts to come out. i just know a vast majority of people's reactions and initial perceptions are just fueled by race, which is stupid. people want a conviction/crucification of the cop before knowing any of the facts of what went down... literally just because it was a white-on-black thing. just like the zimmerman case.

:tu was reading that they're trying to figure out if the head shots are indicators that he was surrendering. They said the one exit wound shows a bullet's path from the jaw to collar bone


Again...what the fuck are kids doing out there? The parents know there have already been confrontations with police. I guess making a "statement" is more important than the safety of their own children.

If they were normal parents with normal functioning brains they would have left their kids at home. Actually, they wouldn't be out there in the first place because they are putting themselves at risk and they have kids who depend on them.

:tu yeah kids shouldn't be there. I was more interested in why everything started before curfew and why the cops only gave 5 seconds warning. Like, if that's when the molotovs were thrown, or what.


Did they leave money on the counter to pay for it? Oh, they probably didn't.
:rolleyes


I usually go to reuters for my news. They seem as unbiased as anyone. Here's their page on Ferguson.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/US_Live_Blog

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g441/tc2k11arf/photochops/SUB-JP-BROWN-2-comments_zps869e1366.jpg (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/tc2k11arf/media/photochops/SUB-JP-BROWN-2-comments_zps869e1366.jpg.html)

Interesting. Only 3 bullet casings found on scene, and it appears only 3 bullets could have caused all the wounds.

[ChumpDumper]

Who wrote all that stuff in red?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Who wrote all that stuff in red?Another ME from a site I read.

[ChumpDumper]

Another ME from a site I read.Link?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Link?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1656649_AUTOPSY_thread_for_Michael_Brown_of_Fergus on.html&page=1

[ChumpDumper]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?

[RD2191]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?
:lmao

[Jacob1983]

I'm not an expert on autopsies but that was a shitty made autotopsy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?You do understand people that post on message boards can also be medical examiners correct?

[ChumpDumper]

You do understand people that post on message boards can also be medical examiners correct?I understand he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I understand he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.
Why don't you sign up and ask him what he does for a living. Or better yet why don't you give your expert opinion on the entry exit wounds like he did. I'll provide you the blank autopsy report if you'd like.

[ChumpDumper]

Why don't you sign up and ask him what he does for a living.No need. He is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.
Or better yet why don't you give your expert opinion on the entry exit wounds like he did. I'll provide you the blank autopsy report if you'd like.Why would that be better for you?

[TheSanityAnnex]

No need. He is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.Would you care to point out any flaws of what he determined from looking at the prelim autopsy report...your expert opinion of course.

Why would that be better for you?It sounds like you don't think he's qualified to give an informed opinion. That leads me to think you see something wrong with it, so what is your take on it or do you not have one?

[ChumpDumper]

Would you care to point out any flaws of what he determined from looking at the prelim autopsy report...your expert opinion of course.I merely stated that the opinion is that of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum. I don't know why it angers you. It's your link.

It sounds like you don't think he's qualified to give an informed opinion. That leads me to think you see something wrong with it, so what is your take on it or do you not have one?Your thinking is faulty. I think he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I merely stated that the opinion is that of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum. I don't know why it angers you. It's your link.
Your thinking is faulty. I think he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

Dispute what "tc2k11" posted, in your expert opinion of course.

[ChumpDumper]

Dispute what "tc2k11" posted, in your expert opinion of course.I merely stated this is the opinion of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

That is beyond dispute.

[Fabbs]

I merely stated this is the opinion of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

That is beyond dispute.
How much further beyond is that?

[ChumpDumper]

How much further beyond is that?It's metaphorical. There is not a physical distance involved.

Do you understand?

[baseline bum]

LOL rioting for some faggot who attacked a cop and got what he deserved for it. I mean I don't like cops either since they don't want to do shit if your house gets robbed, your car stolen, etc, but charging a cop is count to potato retarded.

[Fabbs]

It's metaphorical. There is not a physical distance involved.
Is this your opinion?

[mingus]

Properly by piecing together a few things like the angle of the bullets as they entered, the distance, etc...


Unless another video or other piece of evidence surfaces.

But Dr. Baden said that the angle of the bullet through the head can be interpreted as either Brown rushing at him with his head down OR a situation where he was in surrender position with his head down.

Not sure what distance will tell you about it either.

Im no expert but I think it will be tough.

With conflicting accounts between the eye witnesses themselves it makes it that much more difficult.

Judging by the bullet patterns my assumption is that the cop wasn't trying to kill him initially but immobilize him. He had what 3 shots to his arm and one to his right side chest for the first 4 shots? If he wanted to kill him initially I would think he wouldn't be shooting him there. He'd have aimed for his vital organs.

[silverblk mystix]

But Dr. Baden said that the angle of the bullet through the head can be interpreted as either Brown rushing at him with his head down OR a situation where he was in surrender position with his head down.

Not sure what distance will tell you about it either.

Im no expert but I think it will be tough.

With conflicting accounts between the eye witnesses themselves it makes it that much more difficult.

Judging by the bullet patterns my assumption is that the cop wasn't trying to kill him initially but immobilize him. He had what 3 shots to his arm and one to his right side chest for the first 4 shots? If he wanted to kill him initially I would think he wouldn't be shooting him there. He'd have aimed for his vital organs.


Well, we might never know the truth or what the officer was thinking -\

but if I had to guess -

I would just guess that the officers gun just needs to be adjusted a little as every hit appears to be on the far left side of the body. I would also guess he was aiming for the center.

[Trill Clinton]

a game to keep the white supremacists busy

http://i58.tinypic.com/j995co.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu-1TQtmFlQ

:lol We're not looters, we're liberators...what a piece of shit this guy is.

[SnakeBoy]

a game to keep the white supremacists busy

http://i58.tinypic.com/j995co.jpg

Needs "they're the weakest race" & "historically incapable of self governance" buttons tbh.

[SnakeBoy]

Also "they really were better off as slaves" & "Bingo? Isn't that something poor people play?"

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well, we might never know the truth or what the officer was thinking -\

but if I had to guess -

I would just guess that the officers gun just needs to be adjusted a little as every hit appears to be on the far left side of the body. I would also guess he was aiming for the center.

Every shot pulled left because he was scared shitless and hammering down on the trigger. You must not be too familiar with guns.

[silverblk mystix]

Every shot pulled left because he was scared shitless and hammering down on the trigger. You must not be too familiar with guns.


Why would they pull left?

Was he a lefty shooter?


And of course he was scared shitless and the adrenaline was pumping so hard that he probably couldn't stop shaking -


Sounds like you know a bit less than even I do.

[ChumpDumper]

Is this your opinion?It's a fact. Feel free to disprove it if you like.

My opinion is you won't.

[spurraider21]

a game to keep the white supremacists busy

http://i58.tinypic.com/j995co.jpg
the black version of this would just be one big square of tears

[RD2191]

the black version of this would just be one big square of tears
And the Armenian one would be multiple squares of Kim Kardashians ass.

[spurraider21]

And the Armenian one would be multiple squares of Kim Kardashians ass.
:tu

[InRareForm]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240qqo_cnn-s-jake-tapper-going-in_news

i agree

[spurraider21]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240qqo_cnn-s-jake-tapper-going-in_news

i agree
ditto

[Jacob1983]

Why is it bad to bring up black on black violence? Black people don't give a shit if a black person kills a black person. If a honky kills a black person, everyone pretends like they give a shit. I just want to knows what's the point of race baiting?

[InRareForm]

You can tell a racist post in the first sentence lol.. makes it so much easier to skip.

[DPG21920]

So if he admitted there was looting and violence before, then when people gather (after seeing the looting and violence) wouldn't any police force be out to prevent it even if currently at that second there is no more looting/violence going on?

I mean, I agree it's excessive, but that logic I don't agree with.

[spurraider21]

You can tell a racist post in the first sentence lol.. makes it so much easier to skip.
which part of that was racist? racism implies one race is innately better or worse than another

[DarrinS]

The more coverage of this, the less I give a shit.

[DarrinS]

Places I'm glad I don't live:

Camden, New Jersey
Flint, Michigan
Detroit, Michigan
Oakland, California
St. Louis, Missouri
Cleveland, Ohio
Gary, Indiana
Newark, New Jersey
Bridgeport, Connecticut
Birmingham, Alabama

[bigzak25]

Guys, please...14 pages...its not like we are suddenly gonna run out of niggas or something.

[InRareForm]

Live Feed from Vice News:

https://news.vice.com/article/live-from-ferguson-missouri

[DarrinS]

Live Feed from Vice News:

https://news.vice.com/article/live-from-ferguson-missouri


Cool. I'm not watching it.

[InRareForm]

Cool. I'm not watching it.

good for you gfy

[DarrinS]

good for you gfy

Sympathy bucket -- empty

[spurraider21]

if there's the evidence there to convict the dude, i hope he gets convicted and punished to the fullest extent. if there isn't, then there isn't much that can be done, nor should be done. i don't have my mind made on the situation, and anybody who does is just taking side for their respective biases.

the courts job isn't to defend justice, its to defend the justice system... ie innocent until proven guilty. if the forensics suggest that Brown could have been the aggressor, then it quite frankly isn't right to put the cop behind bars. people (rightfully) complain about wrongful imprisonment when they throw guys in the slammer with insufficient evidence

[InRareForm]

if there's the evidence there to convict the dude, i hope he gets convicted and punished to the fullest extent. if there isn't, then there isn't much that can be done, nor should be done. i don't have my mind made on the situation, and anybody who does is just taking side for their respective biases.

the courts job isn't to defend justice, its to defend the justice system... ie innocent until proven guilty. if the forensics suggest that Brown could have been the aggressor, then it quite frankly isn't right to put the cop behind bars. people (rightfully) complain about wrongful imprisonment when they throw guys in the slammer with insufficient evidence

+1

[InRareForm]

http://online.wsj.com/articles/what-happens-when-police-officers-wear-body-cameras-1408320244?mod=e2tw

[Fabbs]

:lol A coon just called into 760AM here trying to get his fake outrage on while claiming to be on the scene thus an eyewitness to police and National Guard brutality in Ferguson.

Host asked him to name how far it was from Ferguson to St Louis. Coon explains how he has lived in Feguson his whole life and why is the host asking him, says he does not know.

How far from Ferguson to the next town over? Coon starts trying to change the subject and getting agitated.
What is the name of the very next town to Feguson? Coon feigns this and that.
Host calls him out and cuts him off.

Shot from behind while he had his hands up. Rrrright.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you feel the need to use such a racist term?

[spurraider21]

Why do you feel the need to use such a racist term?
Does it upset you?

[ChumpDumper]

Does it upset you?I don't think it adds anything to the conversation and can only be meant to upset individuals.

Why else would anyone use it?

[Proxy]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/3ab86173b11bf5496445ca0ef2b5b5aa/tumblr_najf5pYaR51qzeo2zo2_500.jpg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/a5f23eb8b30f80a0ce4c6b814518bd3a/tumblr_najg6kz9zi1sf3hpzo1_500.jpg

[DMC]

if there's the evidence there to convict the dude, i hope he gets convicted and punished to the fullest extent. if there isn't, then there isn't much that can be done, nor should be done. i don't have my mind made on the situation, and anybody who does is just taking side for their respective biases.

the courts job isn't to defend justice, its to defend the justice system... ie innocent until proven guilty. if the forensics suggest that Brown could have been the aggressor, then it quite frankly isn't right to put the cop behind bars. people (rightfully) complain about wrongful imprisonment when they throw guys in the slammer with insufficient evidence

Obviously there's a whole ass load of people in that town who have their minds made up.

[HI-FI]

so is Obama and Holder manipulating this with media's help, possibly to stir up the base for the elections, similar to possible amnesty? just seems ridiculous to make so much out of something when all the facts aren't in.

[spurraider21]

Obviously there's a whole ass load of people in that town who have their minds made up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmEvxswn4IY

[spurraider21]

I don't think it adds anything to the conversation and can only be meant to upset individuals.

Why else would anyone use it?
You didn't answer my question.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't answer my question.I did. I told you my feelings regarding its use. If you want to interpret that as being upset that's up to you.

Do you think the word's use adds to the conversation?

[spurraider21]

I did. I told you my feelings regarding its use. If you want to interpret that as being upset that's up to you.

Do you think the word's use adds to the conversation?
I asked a a yes or no question. Your response didn't answer it. Perhaps you feel it doesn't contribute to the conversation... And it upsets you. Or perhaps you feel it doesn't add to the conversation, but doesn't necessarily upset you.

[johnsmith]

I just spent some time on YouTube watching the different clips...regardless of your opinion on how this started, you'd have to admit, this is really fucked up.

I wonder what it's like to be on either side of those lines...has to feel pretty fucked up to be one of the cops going after the very people you're supposed to protect.

Or am I giving cops too much credit here?

[ChumpDumper]

I asked a a yes or no question. Your response didn't answer it. Perhaps you feel it doesn't contribute to the conversation... And it upsets you. Or perhaps you feel it doesn't add to the conversation, but doesn't necessarily upset you.

In that case the answer is no. I find it more annoying than upsetting.

[Fabbs]

TheSanityAnnex
Dispute what "tc2k11" posted, in your expert opinion of course.

Coach Rump Humper
I merely stated this is the opinion of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

That is beyond dispute.

Fabbs
How much further beyond is that?

Rump Humper
It's metaphorical. There is not a physical distance involved.

Fabbs
Is this your opinion?

Rump Humper
It's a fact. Feel free to disprove it if you like.

Sorry Chump Rumpy but a metaphor cannot be proven as an absolute fact. You've danced around TheSanityAnnexs request to address the ME findings, but you've just chased your tail, per usual. We're letting you back outside.

[DMC]

But Dr. Baden said that the angle of the bullet through the head can be interpreted as either Brown rushing at him with his head down OR a situation where he was in surrender position with his head down.

Not sure what distance will tell you about it either.

Im no expert but I think it will be tough.

With conflicting accounts between the eye witnesses themselves it makes it that much more difficult.

Judging by the bullet patterns my assumption is that the cop wasn't trying to kill him initially but immobilize him. He had what 3 shots to his arm and one to his right side chest for the first 4 shots? If he wanted to kill him initially I would think he wouldn't be shooting him there. He'd have aimed for his vital organs.

Since reality isn't a video game, the bullet pattern isn't that notable. If anything I'd say Brown had his right side shoulder toward the cop, and charged him head down. The cop just walked his shots up Brown's body. Under duress shot placement isn't nearly as logical as people tend to make it out to be when they've had days and weeks to consider every second of the event for hours.

[DMC]

TheSanityAnnex

Coach Rump Humper

Fabbs

Rump Humper

Fabbs

Rump Humper

Sorry Chump Rumpy but a metaphor cannot be proven as an absolute fact. You've danced around TheSanityAnnexs request to address the ME findings, but you've just chased your tail, per usual. We're letting you back outside.

This one is too easy. He said "it's a fact" referring to the fact it was a metaphor, not that the metaphor is a fact.

[ChumpDumper]

This one is too easy. He said "it's a fact" referring to the fact it was a metaphor, not that the metaphor is a fact.

Well the fact was it was the opinion of the ar15 poster. I don't know how fabbs confused himself so thoroughly.

[Fabbs]

The fact is Rumpy chickened out, and continues to chicken out on answering TheSanityAnnexs request that he address the ME findings.

Out in the yard. With DMC to join you now. :lol
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuuEIzqRwBEAMmA7khOdwzFfvpoI4Al pl4aU8tZPPfFZMdTz7wEw

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well the fact was it was the opinion of the ar15 poster.
Do you have an opinion on said ar15 posters autopsy comments?

[DMC]

so is Obama and Holder manipulating this with media's help, possibly to stir up the base for the elections, similar to possible amnesty? just seems ridiculous to make so much out of something when all the facts aren't in.

Obama cannot lose the black vote unless a blacker person runs against him.

[DMC]

Because you're a faggot, tbh. Dude drops some truth nukes on the white community and cops that think they're going to war in Iraq.

More like Mogadishu.

[SnakeBoy]

Obama cannot lose the black vote unless a blacker person runs against him.

Obama isn't going to be on the ballot. Mid term elections are all about rallying the base. In politics, "rallying" means getting them pissed off.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have an opinion on said ar15 posters autopsy comments?

I only have his screen name to go by.

[ChumpDumper]

The fact is Rumpy chickened out, and continues to chicken out on answering TheSanityAnnexs request that he address the ME findings.

Out in the yard. With DMC to join you now. :lol
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuuEIzqRwBEAMmA7khOdwzFfvpoI4Al pl4aU8tZPPfFZMdTz7wEwlol you don't even understand simple sentences.

Let the adults talk and you work on some nifty nicknames, Corky.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I only have his screen name to go by.Do you have an opinion on the comments he posted in red on the autopsy that was leaked yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have an opinion on the comments he posted in red on the autopsy that was leaked yes or no?
I am amused at the edit if nothing else.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I am amused at the edit if nothing else.Thank you for your wonderful contribution, don't even know why I bother.

[ChumpDumper]

Thank you for your wonderful contribution, don't even know why I bother.

Same reason you post autopsy reports from the ar15 forum members I guess.

[cantthinkofanything]

So the fact that he stole cigars is irrelevant.
The fact that he was a drug user is irrelevant.
What about him hitting the cop and breaking his orbital socket?
Is this going to be irrelevant to?

[boutons_deux]

So the fact that he stole cigars is irrelevant.
The fact that he was a drug user is irrelevant.
What about him hitting the cop and breaking his orbital socket?
Is this going to be irrelevant to?

why do you assume Brown hit Wilson? maybe another cop hit Wilson to pin it on Brown?

[RD2191]

So the fact that he stole cigars is irrelevant.
The fact that he was a drug user is irrelevant.
What about him hitting the cop and breaking his orbital socket?
Is this going to be irrelevant to?
Of course it isn't. But that's why we have a legal system in place. Not a shoot to kill because he was stealing system.

[DarrinS]

why do you assume Brown hit Wilson? maybe another cop hit Wilson to pin it on Brown?

lol

[RD2191]

I'm not buying the officers story. So this dude gets a report of a strong arm robbery, sees this 6'4 young man and his friend walking down the street and basically tries to arrest them without even calling for backup? Then he shoots the 6'4 man because he assumes he was armed? So here is a very dangerous situation and instead of calling for help he tries to go super-cop and do it all by himself? I've seen grannies pulled over with 2-3 extra cops called, something doesn't add up.

[DarrinS]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/officer-involved-shooting-st-louis_n_5692160.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

[RD2191]

Why didn't he call for backup when he was initially assaulted? If the young man supposedly slammed his door shut and went for his gun why didn't he just call for backup once he got away/Mike Brown ran away? He sees that the young man is obviously going to resist arrest and had no respect for authority yet he goes after 2 of them by himself? The fuck outta here.

[TheSanityAnnex]

why do you assume Brown hit Wilson? maybe another cop hit Wilson to pin it on Brown?

read what you wrote out loud to yourself five times then look at yourself in the mirror and try not to laugh

[cantthinkofanything]

he goes after 2 of them by himself?

LOL. Bootleg racism.

[mingus]

Since reality isn't a video game, the bullet pattern isn't that notable. If anything I'd say Brown had his right side shoulder toward the cop, and charged him head down. The cop just walked his shots up Brown's body. Under duress shot placement isn't nearly as logical as people tend to make it out to be when they've had days and weeks to consider every second of the event for hours.

You're scenario is very plausible but I don't think mine is anywhere near as illogical you make it out to be. These guys are well-trained at firing handguns and if I had to bet on it he could have killed him in 1-3 shots if he wanted to.

[DisAsTerBot]

I'm not buying the officers story. So this dude gets a report of a strong arm robbery, sees this 6'4 young man and his friend walking down the street and basically tries to arrest them without even calling for backup? Then he shoots the 6'4 man because he assumes he was armed? So here is a very dangerous situation and instead of calling for help he tries to go super-cop and do it all by himself? I've seen grannies pulled over with 2-3 extra cops called, something doesn't add up.

the officer did not know about the robbery. he just happened upon him as he was walking in the street. That's pretty much all we know before the confrontation.

[silverblk mystix]

Why do you feel the need to use such a racist term?


Have you said this to DMC everytime he uses these terms?

[DisAsTerBot]

You're scenario is very plausible but I don't think mine is anywhere near as illogical you make it out to be. These guys are well-trained at firing handguns and if I had to bet on it he could have killed him in 1-3 shots if he wanted to.

sure if you take away any variables ie movement, adrenaline, fear. He's not going to hit him right between the eyes in a real life situation, especially one that allegedly involved a scuffle

[silverblk mystix]

uh-oh


another black person shot by the cops...



3:05 p.m. ET: St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said the suspect, a 23-year-old African-American male, had been involved in a convenience store theft early Tuesday afternoon and was seen acting eratically. When two officers stopped him, the suspect shouted, "Shoot me! Kill me now!" The suspect refused verbal commands to stop and approached the officers holding a knife in an "overhand grip," getting within three or four feet of them, police said. Both officers fired at the suspect, killing him.
"Every police officer out here has the right to defend themselves," Dotson told reporters.


:wakeup

[TheSanityAnnex]

You're scenario is very plausible but I don't think mine is anywhere near as illogical you make it out to be. These guys are well-trained at firing handguns and if I had to bet on it he could have killed him in 1-3 shots if he wanted to.

Look up some youtube videos of how long people stay on their feet after being shot. And no, they are not well trained at firing handguns, I shoot next to cops all the time at the range.

[silverblk mystix]

Look up some youtube videos of how long people stay on their feet after being shot. And no, they are not well trained at firing handguns, I shoot next to cops all the time at the range.


Training and a real life or death situation are entirely different.

Some people shoot "expert" all day long - then panic in a real life situation.

and vice versa

Some shoot ok at the range - but in a life or death they don't panic as much as others and shoot and kill the suspect.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/


also a St. Louis reporter says at least a dozen witnesses confirm Wilson's account.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Training and a real life or death situation are entirely different.

Some people shoot "expert" all day long - then panic in a real life situation.

and vice versa

Some shoot ok at the range - but in a life or death they don't panic as much as others and shoot and kill the suspect.My point was they don't train much with firearms.

[RD2191]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/


also a St. Louis reporter says at least a dozen witnesses confirm Wilson's account.
thegatewaypundit, always rely on them for my up to date news.

[RD2191]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/


also a St. Louis reporter says at least a dozen witnesses confirm Wilson's account.
so why didn't he call for backup? dude gets his face smashed in and goes after an attacker and his friend by himself? :lol

[silverblk mystix]

My point was they don't train much with firearms.


It depends...

like anything else - some people are into it & some only do whatever they need to qualify and keep their certification current.

Some are like "gym rats" - they love the shit, are gung ho , and can shoot lights out and are pretty dedicated.

[silverblk mystix]

so why didn't he call for backup? dude gets his face smashed in and goes after an attacker and his friend by himself? :lol


Maybe he did?

Maybe he didnt have time.

Do you understand that if a suspect assaults you and tries to take away your gun -


then "deadly force" is authorized?

Pretty simple.

Whatever happens after that - the cop was justified in shooting him. Period.


In a perfect world - did I want the kid to get shot for stealing something - nope.


But if he assaulted the cop, tried to take his weapon and then evade arrest?

I think killing him was justified - if this is what really happened.

[DMC]

You're scenario is very plausible but I don't think mine is anywhere near as illogical you make it out to be. These guys are well-trained at firing handguns and if I had to bet on it he could have killed him in 1-3 shots if he wanted to.

At ranges, officers use sight alignment. In confrontations, they most often do not. Officers routinely miss their targets even at close range in a firefight. It's not like someone sounded a horn for an IPSC contest.

[ChumpDumper]

Have you said this to DMC everytime he uses these terms?why do you use racist terms, sbm?

[RD2191]

Maybe he did?

Maybe he didnt have time.

Do you understand that if a suspect assaults you and tries to take away your gun -


then "deadly force" is authorized?

Pretty simple.

Whatever happens after that - the cop was justified in shooting him. Period.


In a perfect world - did I want the kid to get shot for stealing something - nope.


But if he assaulted the cop, tried to take his weapon and then evade arrest?

I think killing him was justified - if this is what really happened.
Not true at all. If an unarmed attacker attacks you and runs away and you're in the safety of your vehicle you call for backup no matter what. Maybe the cop was pissed and decided to blast him after that or maybe he panicked but to say he was justified in his shooting is wrong.

[silverblk mystix]

why do you use racist terms, sbm?

You didn't answer my question.

[Fabbs]

Not true at all. If an unarmed attacker attacks you and runs away.
Assuming facts not in evidence.
How do you know Brown was running away?
Rufus Dufus has already been discredited with his "he bein shotted in da back" interview.

[silverblk mystix]

Not true at all. If an unarmed attacker attacks you and runs away and you're in the safety of your vehicle you call for backup no matter what. Maybe the cop was pissed and decided to blast him after that or maybe he panicked but to say he was justified in his shooting is wrong.

You forgot the part where the kid advanced towards the officer.

[Fabbs]

You didn't answer my question.
sHe's quite the ratcoon, isn't sHe. :lol

[RD2191]

The minute Mike Brown slammed his door he should of known then that he would need help and to back off. Instead he engages Mike and then chases him when he runs away. I'm not saying he shouldn't of followed him but he should of stayed back at a safe distance until backup arrived. The dude was 6'4 250+, I doubt he could of run very far without stopping or collapsing.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't answer my question.not every time.

Maybe next time.

Why do you use racist terms, sbm?

[RD2191]

You forgot the part where the kid advanced towards the officer.
That was after the first engagement, he should of stayed in his car if he really feared for his life. Mike had already stopped and turned around. Instead of waiting for help he decides to engage a man who clearly had no fear/respect for the law.

[ChumpDumper]

sHe's quite the ratcoon, isn't sHe. :lol

lol butthurt fabbs never answered my question.

[TheSanityAnnex]

At ranges, officers use sight alignment. In confrontations, they most often do not. Officers routinely miss their targets even at close range in a firefight. It's not like someone sounded a horn for an IPSC contest.

Exactly.

http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Aveni/OIS.pdf

[silverblk mystix]

not every time.

Maybe next time.

Why do you use racist terms, sbm?


Probably to throw the same shit back at someone - after they threw shit my way.

Only fair.

You get what you pay for.

[silverblk mystix]

sHe's quite the ratcoon, isn't sHe. :lol



yup


:lmao:lmao

[RD2191]

That's like me being in a street fight, getting my ass kicked, then deciding to follow the dude who just kicked my ass to engage him again. Come on, something doesn't add up here.

[ChumpDumper]

Probably to throw the same shit back at someone - after they threw shit my way.

Only fair.

You get what you pay for.
So you became a racist because you think it's fair?

lol you're a terribly weak person tbh

[Fabbs]

lol butthurt fabbs never answered my question.
Rumpy i simply phish you and throw you back to your troll pond.
Butthurt Rumpy never answering the ME question.

[ChumpDumper]

Rumpy i simply phish you and throw you back to your troll pond.
Butthurt Rumpy never answering the ME question.
Asked and answered.

Why do you use racist terms?

[silverblk mystix]

The minute Mike Brown slammed his door he should of known then that he would need help and to back off. Instead he engages Mike and then chases him when he runs away. I'm not saying he shouldn't of followed him but he should of stayed back at a safe distance until backup arrived. The dude was 6'4 250+, I doubt he could of run very far without stopping or collapsing.


You cannot do that - ever.

Once it's on - IT IS on.

An officer cannot initiate an arrest or be attacked and then back off and let him go - he would get fried for that.

I can just hear it now;

The suspect attacked an officer....the officer - realized he was outmatched - so when the suspect fled -

the officer stayed in his car waiting for back-up.


The suspect escaped.

Later - it was discovered that the suspect had been on a rampage and had killed 11 people when he was approached by the officer -

after the cop let him go - allowed him to escape -

the suspect killed 18 more people - and the public want to charge the cop with these 18 deaths because he should have never alllowed a killer to escape. WTF is wrong with these cops?


:lmao

[silverblk mystix]

So you became a racist because you think it's fair?

lol you're a terribly weak person tbh


You still need a lot of work on your reading comprehension.


Won't waste my time with you.

[RD2191]

You cannot do that - ever.

Once it's on - IT IS on.

An officer cannot initiate an arrest or be attacked and then back off and let him go - he would get fried for that.

I can just hear it now;

The suspect attacked an officer....the officer - realized he was outmatched - so when the suspect fled -

the officer stayed in his car waiting for back-up.


The suspect escaped.

Later - it was discovered that the suspect had been on a rampage and had killed 11 people when he was approached by the officer -

after the cop let him go - allowed him to escape -

the suspect killed 18 more people - and the public want to charge the cop with these 18 deaths because he should have never alllowed a killer to escape. WTF is wrong with these cops?


:lmao
I said follow him at a distance. His job is to serve and protect, not be a hero. If Mike Brown had a gun or a knife then I would understand, but he did not. Why do you think high speed chases are called off when it is too high risk? You can always get them another day. And as I said before, Mike Brown was 6'4 250+, you're telling me the cop in his vehicle couldn't keep up with him until backup arrived? Come on man.

[ChumpDumper]

You still need a lot of work on your reading comprehension.


Won't waste my time with you.you became a racist because other people hurt your widdle feewings.

That's fucking pathetic, dude.

[silverblk mystix]

I said follow him at a distance. His job is to serve and protect, not be a hero. If Mike Brown had a gun or a knife then I would understand, but he did not. Why do you think high speed chases are called off when it is too high risk? You can always get them another day. And as I said before, Mike Brown was 6'4 250+, you're telling me the cop in his vehicle couldn't keep up with him until backup arrived? Come on man.


A cop cannot allow a suspect to leave the scene.Period.



If he does - he will get shit from everyone and their uncle.

If you are a big boy and you put on your big boy pants and attack a cop -


you are then a big boy that gave the cops an opportunity to fuck you over.

You get what you pay for.


If the big boy had been man enough to say to himself, "I fucked up, I stole something, the cops caught me - I will just suffer the consequences and take it like a man"


He would be alive today and his parents would not be grieving.

[IceColdBrewski]

That was after the first engagement, he should of stayed in his car if he really feared for his life. Mike had already stopped and turned around. Instead of waiting for help he decides to engage a man who clearly had no fear/respect for the law.


lol. It doesn't work that way. Cops are trained to pursue and arrest when someone breaks the law. Not hide and wait in their cars if no other cops are around.

[RD2191]

A cop cannot allow a suspect to leave the scene.Period.



If he does - he will get shit from everyone and their uncle.

If you are a big boy and you put on your big boy pants and attack a cop -


you are then a big boy that gave the cops an opportunity to fuck you over.

You get what you pay for.


If the big boy had been man enough to say to himself, "I fucked up, I stole something, the cops caught me - I will just suffer the consequences and take it like a man"


He would be alive today and his parents would not be grieving.
Shit? He's in a lot more shit now than he would be in if he would of let the suspect go or at least kept his distance. As I said before, the suspect was not armed and posed no immediate threat to others. Especially in his neighborhood and his side of town.

Big boy? He was 18 years old, not a man. The trained police office should of known better. This isn't vigilante justice, and that is not how the law works. If you think a young man deserves to die because he punched a cop then you have a distorted view of how the law works and what's right/wrong.

[xmas1997]

You still need a lot of work on your reading comprehension.


Won't waste my time with you.

As an aside, and I don't mean to take you away from humiliating chump so thoroughly, but are you coming to the GTG this Saturday evening?

[RD2191]

lol. It doesn't work that way. Cops are trained to pursue and arrest when someone breaks the law. Not hide and wait in their cars if no other cops are around.
I agree he should of pursued, but if he felt his life was really in danger he would of called for backup and followed safely from his vehicle.

[ChumpDumper]

So who called in the alleged robbery?

[DisAsTerBot]

I agree he should of pursued, but if he felt his life was really in danger he would of called for backup and followed safely from his vehicle.

at what point is he allowed to use his weapon after being assaulted? do you think cops should even carry guns?

[DisAsTerBot]

So who called in the alleged robbery?

a customer. allegedly

[silverblk mystix]

As an aside, and I don't mean to take you away from humiliating chump so thoroughly, but are you coming to the GTG this Saturday evening?


Only if DMC attends, otherwise...no.


Sorry and thanks!

[RD2191]

at what point is he allowed to use his weapon after being assaulted? do you think cops should even carry guns?
If someone attacks you and then runs away and you supposedly fear for your life, what would you do? Follow him and get out of your vehicle or would you follow safely from a distance in your vehicle while calling for help/backup?

[DisAsTerBot]

If someone attacks you and then runs away and you supposedly fear for your life, what would you do? Follow him and get out of your vehicle or would you follow safely from a distance in your vehicle while calling for help/backup?

well im not a cop so i would probably call the cops and then want them to pursue him/her ....as i waited in the safety of my vehicle/home.

[RD2191]

So if the cop didn't even know he was a robbery suspect why did he pull him and his bud to the side? How and why did he get so close to Mike Brown in the first place?

[ChumpDumper]

Only if DMC attends, otherwise...no.


Sorry and thanks!
Man DMC runs your life now.

Sorry is right.

[DisAsTerBot]

So if the cop didn't even know he was a robbery suspect why did he pull him and his bud to the side? How and why did he get so close to Mike Brown in the first place?

he told him to get out of the street. The cop didn't know he was a robbery suspect but Mr. Brown knew of his earlier altercation. A reasonable person might come the conclusion that this would effect mr brown's actions/interactions with the officer.

[RD2191]

well im not a cop so i would probably call the cops and then want them to pursue him/her ....as i waited in the safety of my vehicle/home.
Doesn't matter, the cop is still a human who can think and reason logically. If he felt his life was really in danger he would of never stepped out of his vehicle in the first place to confront an unarmed man.

[RD2191]

he told him to get out of the street. The cop didn't know he was a robbery suspect but Mr. Brown knew of his earlier altercation. A reasonable person might come the conclusion that this would effect mr brown's actions/interactions with the officer.
So the cop was being a dick for no reason at all and that eventually led to him killing a young man for walking on the street? Cop kept it to real I guess.

[DisAsTerBot]

So the cop was being a dick for no reason at all and that eventually led to him killing a young man for walking on the street? Cop kept it to real I guess.

if telling someone to not walk in the middle of the street is being a dick than i guess so.

[silverblk mystix]

Shit? He's in a lot more shit now than he would be in if he would of let the suspect go or at least kept his distance. As I said before, the suspect was not armed and posed no immediate threat to others.
This is completely inaccurate. There was no way that the cop was aware if this suspect was armed or not - and there was no way to know if this idiot posed a threat to others - as a matter of fact - a reasonable person in the same position - would probably reason that if a guy attacked an on duty cop and tried to take his weapon - that he did indeed pose a great threat to others.There was also no way that the cop was allowed to do a search to check for weapons because the idiot kid evaded arrest and attacked the cop.


Especially in his neighborhood and his side of town.

Big boy? He was 18 years old, not a man. The trained police office should of known better.

The suspect assaulted him and tried to take his gun - WTF do you think a suspect wants with a cop's gun? To kill the cop.Period.Deadly force is warranted for this alone.


This isn't vigilante justice, and that is not how the law works. If you think a young man deserves to die because he punched a cop


because he tried to take the cop's gun - this is the issue here - this is what gives a cop the license to kill - right here. In the penal code - I haven't bothered to look up the Missouri (misery) penal code - but I am pretty sure it is like most states.



then you have a distorted view of how the law works and what's right/wrong.


You are letting your emotions get in the way of reasonable thinking tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

he told him to get out of the street. The cop didn't know he was a robbery suspect but Mr. Brown knew of his earlier altercation. A reasonable person might come the conclusion that this would effect mr brown's actions/interactions with the officer.
Wouldn't it make the most sense to walk away when the cop tells you just to get out of the street and makes no hint at arresting you?

[silverblk mystix]

Man DMC runs your life now.

Sorry is right.


Well I already knew that you and your boyfriend Blake are too pussy to attend - so it is DMC -

but if you or your lover go -


I will change my plans and go.


You won't.

Pussy.


Spin/twist/tap dance/ shit pants ...in 5,4,3....

[RD2191]

if telling someone to not walk in the middle of the street is being a dick than i guess so.
I just don't see why a young man who was heading off to college would attack a cop for telling him to get off the street. Doesn't make sense to me. Sure, he stole some cigs but stealing and attacking a cop are very different things. Don't get me wrong, this young man should of been arrested for stealing and assaulting the store clerk, but I don't believe he deserved to die because of it.

[RD2191]

You are letting your emotions get in the way of reasonable thinking tbh.
Nope, but that is exactly what the cop did.

[boutons_deux]

So who called in the alleged robbery?

the 911 operator knows

[DisAsTerBot]

Wouldn't it make the most sense to walk away when the cop tells you just to get out of the street and makes no hint at arresting you?

yes it would. Too bad that doesn't appear to be what happened here.
Wouldn't it also make sense that if someone had just committed a crime (allegedly) and almost immediately afterwards had a face to face interaction with a police officer that person may be nervous?

[ChumpDumper]

Well I already knew that you and your boyfriend Blake are too pussy to attend - so it is DMC -

but if you or your lover go -


I will change my plans and go.


You won't.

Pussy.


Spin/twist/tap dance/ shit pants ...in 5,4,3....Give me a good reason why I should want to meet you under any circumstances and I'm there.

Go ahead, give me a reason.

[UZER]

uh-oh


another black person shot by the cops...



3:05 p.m. ET: St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said the suspect, a 23-year-old African-American male, had been involved in a convenience store theft early Tuesday afternoon and was seen acting eratically. When two officers stopped him, the suspect shouted, "Shoot me! Kill me now!" The suspect refused verbal commands to stop and approached the officers holding a knife in an "overhand grip," getting within three or four feet of them, police said. Both officers fired at the suspect, killing him.
"Every police officer out here has the right to defend themselves," Dotson told reporters.


:wakeup

Waiting for the group pic with everyone holding up a knife over their head with the caption , "This is how _________ died."

:corn:

[silverblk mystix]

I just don't see why a young man who was heading off to college would attack a cop for telling him to get off the street. Doesn't make sense to me. Sure, he stole some cigs but stealing and attacking a cop are very different things. Don't get me wrong, this young man should of been arrested for stealing and assaulting the store clerk, but I don't believe he deserved to die because of it.


What about when the cop tried to get out of his vehicle and the idiot kid rushed him and pushed the cop back into the car and then punched the cop and tried to take his gun?


Is that enough for you to take the "halo" off of the kid?

[DMC]

Waiting for the group pic with everyone holding up a knife over their head with the caption , "This is how _________ died."

:popcorn
From a black "university" where 99% of the grads get liberal arts degrees.

[RD2191]

Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jackson_(police_officer)) announced the name of the officer involved in the shooting in a news conference the morning of Friday, August 15, nearly a week after the officer shot Brown on Saturday afternoon. Jackson prefaced the name announcement by describing a "strong-arm" robbery that had allegedly occurred a few minutes before the shooting at a nearby convenience store. A police report released to members of the media at the news conference described Brown as the suspect involved in the alleged robbery.[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-ABC.Public-32) The owners of the convenience store told FOX 2 St. Louis that no employee or cashier of the store reported a robbery.[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-Fox2STL-39)
Hours later, Jackson held another news conference in which he said Wilson was not aware of the robbery when he stopped Brown.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-WSJ.Suspect-40)[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-SILive.Suspect-41)
Jackson later told NBC News that while the officer who shot Brown initially stopped him for walking in the street and blocking traffic, "at some point" during the encounter the officer saw cigars in Brown’s hands and thought he might be a suspect in the robbery.[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-MSNBC.Stopped-42) The Atlantic Wire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic_Wire) and MSNBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC) have reported on the changing nature of the department's statements.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-TheWire-43)[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown#cite_note-MSNBCChange-44)

[RD2191]

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

And you pussed out of multiple meetings, so you are the biggest pussy of all.

What are you afraid of?

[silverblk mystix]

Give me a good reason why I should want to meet you under any circumstances and I'm there.

Go ahead, give me a reason.


What about you allow - ONE THREAD -


ONE FUCKIN' THREAD -


to not be about your faggoty snipey snarky little back and forth gay banter?


Thanks!

[DisAsTerBot]

I just don't see why a young man who was heading off to college would attack a cop for telling him to get off the street. Doesn't make sense to me. Sure, he stole some cigs but stealing and attacking a cop are very different things. Don't get me wrong, this young man should of been arrested for stealing and assaulting the store clerk, but I don't believe he deserved to die because of it.

of course he didn't deserve to die because of the robbery. We have already established that that is not why the officer fired so im not sure why you keep acting as if it directly lead to the shooting. The shooting occurred after the altercation with the officer (unrelated to the robbery), the facts of which are unknown.

[ChumpDumper]

What about you allow - ONE THREAD -


ONE FUCKIN' THREAD -


to not be about your faggoty snipey snarky little back and forth gay banter?


Thanks!So this is your reason why I should want to meet you?

Not very compelling tbh.

You may stop whining about me whenever you feel able.

It's up to you, pussy.

[RD2191]

What about when the cop tried to get out of his vehicle and the idiot kid rushed him and pushed the cop back into the car and then punched the cop and tried to take his gun?


Is that enough for you to take the "halo" off of the kid?
Halo? What are you even talking about? The kid was a punk, but he didn't deserve to die. Now, if the young man did do this and was shot during the first altercation then I understand, you obviously can't attack a cop and not expect to get hurt. What happened after though was handled very poorly by the police officer. Who doesn't call for backup after being attacked and having your head smashed? Mike and his friend run away, instead of following at a distance he decides to leave his vehicle and follow 2 suspects he obviously can't handle. The cop fucked up or let his emotions get the best of him.

[RD2191]

of course he didn't deserve to die because of the robbery. We have already established that that is not why the officer fired so im not sure why you keep acting as if it directly lead to the shooting. The shooting occurred after the altercation with the officer (unrelated to the robbery), the facts of which are unknown.
I know that, after Mike Brown had disengaged and ran away.

[RD2191]

Do you really think Mike Brown would of attacked a cop who simply asked him to get on the sidewalk? Cops are fucking dicks, you know the dude didn't ask politely and did it in hateful/smug listen to me because I'm a cop manner.

[SupremeGuy]

I know that, after Mike Brown had disengaged and ran away.He was shot in the front...

jk I know you're trolling... carry on

[SupremeGuy]

Do you really think Mike Brown would of attacked a cop who simply asked him to get on the sidewalk? Cops are fucking dicks, you know the dude didn't ask politely and did it in hateful/smug listen to me because I'm a cop manner.He had just robbed a store and some cop was stopping him. It's not hard to connect the dots...

[RD2191]

He was shot in the front...

jk I know you're trolling... carry on
We know that, because he turned around and put his hands up. So what did the cop do? Wait safely for backup to arrive or did he engage a person who had just attacked him? Pretty stupid cop, imo.

[DarrinS]

Do you really think Mike Brown would of attacked a cop who simply asked him to get on the sidewalk? Cops are fucking dicks, you know the dude didn't ask politely and did it in hateful/smug listen to me because I'm a cop manner.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

[RD2191]

He had just robbed a store and some cop was stopping him. It's not hard to connect the dots...
Cop didn't know that. He was just being a dick and probably told them to get the fuck off the street.

[Fabbs]

Where was Brown stashing the stogies?
Could Brown have reached for the stogies in an effort to get rid of the evidence? Yes. If so, how was the cop supposed to know he was reaching for stolen stogies and not a weapon?

Fox News (ok it's Faux) is now reporting YouTube has on record at least one witnesses to Brown punching cop and stating that Brown was not running away when shot.

....one man describes what he saw as he witnessed the shooting. He seems to describe how the 6 foot, 4 inch, 300-pound Brown tussled with Police Officer Darren Wilson and charged him, an account that may corroborate Wilson's story and cast doubt on claims of other purported witnesses who say Wilson shot Brown as he ran away, his hands in the air.

"I mean, the police was in the truck [sic] and he was, like, over the truck," the man says. "So then he ran, police got out and ran after him.
The next thing I know, he comes back towards them. The police had his guns drawn on him."

[TheSanityAnnex]

I know that, after Mike Brown had disengaged and ran away.
Why do you keep leaving out the part where he reengages and charges the officer. Confirmed by dozens of eyewitnesses now.

[ChumpDumper]

yes it would. Too bad that doesn't appear to be what happened here.
Wouldn't it also make sense that if someone had just committed a crime (allegedly) and almost immediately afterwards had a face to face interaction with a police officer that person may be nervous?Which leads to an attack? Still not very logical.

[RD2191]

Why do you keep leaving out the part where he reengages and charges the officer. Confirmed by dozens of eyewitnesses now.
He was 35 feet away from the officer with his hands up. The cop never should of followed him on foot when he was already in his vehicle. As I said before, if the man had attacked him once, why did he decide to follow him on foot? That's pretty stupid, imo.

[DisAsTerBot]

Which leads to an attack? Still not very logical.

you answered my question with a question. i dont know why i would have expected anything else.

[Thebesteva]

Witnesses say Michael Brown's last words before he rushed at the cop were,"What you gonna do about it? Its not like you can shoot me":lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DMC]

Where was Brown stashing the stogies?
Could Brown have reached for the stogies in an effort to get rid of the evidence? Yes. If so, how was the cop supposed to know he was reaching for stolen stogies and not a weapon?

Fox News (ok it's Faux) is now reporting YouTube has on record at least one witnesses to Brown punching cop and stating that Brown was not running away when shot.

....one man describes what he saw as he witnessed the shooting. He seems to describe how the 6 foot, 4 inch, 300-pound Brown tussled with Police Officer Darren Wilson and charged him, an account that may corroborate Wilson's story and cast doubt on claims of other purported witnesses who say Wilson shot Brown as he ran away, his hands in the air.

"I mean, the police was in the truck [sic] and he was, like, over the truck," the man says. "So then he ran, police got out and ran after him.
The next thing I know, he comes back towards them. The police had his guns drawn on him."


Fergies hear that Brown was shot while walking away: ":cry Martyr"
Fergies hear that Brown didn't walk away, but charged the officer: ":cry Warrior"

[ChumpDumper]

you answered my question with a question. i dont know why i would have expected anything else.

Nervousness is given. Why would it lead to an attack?

[DisAsTerBot]

Nervousness is given. Why would it lead to an attack?

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relating to or affecting the nerves.

[xmas1997]

Witnesses say Michael Brown's last words before he rushed at the cop were,"What you gonna do about it? Its not like you can shoot me":lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Whoops, I was kidding!
:lmao

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which leads to an attack? Still not very logical.

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/li...ain-ronald-s-j (http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j)

An open letter to Captain Ronald Johnson

I have to call you out.

I don’t care what the media says. I expect them to get it wrong and they often do. But I expect you as a veteran law enforcement commander—talking about law enforcement—to get it right.
Unfortunately, you blew it. After days of rioting and looting, last Thursday you were given command of all law enforcement operations in Ferguson by Governor Jay Nixon. St. Louis County PD was out, you were in. You played to the cameras, walked with the protestors and promised a kinder, gentler response. You were a media darling. And Thursday night things were better, much better.
But Friday, under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown. At the same time the Ferguson Police Chief released a video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just 10 minutes before he was confronted by Officer Darren Wilson.
Many don’t like the timing of the release of the video. I don’t like that timing either. It should have been released sooner. It should have been released the moment FPD realized that Brown was the suspect.
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
Boy did it.
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
Allegedly, Brown pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson’s gun. We’re also being told that Officer Wilson has facial injuries suffered during the attempt by Brown to disarm him. Let’s assume for a moment those alleged acts by Brown actually occurred. Would Brown have responded violently to an officer confronting him about jaywalking? Maybe, but probably not.
Is it more likely that he would attack an officer believing that he was about to be taken into custody for a felony strong-arm robbery? Absolutely.
Officer Wilson survived the encounter with Brown as did Lee, Hangar, and Postell. Michael Brown didn’t survive and it’s too soon to say if Officer Wilson’s use of deadly force was justified and legal. You and I both know that not all officers survive such confrontations. Officers die in incidents like this Captain Johnson, including a couple that I remember from your own organization:
On April 15, 1985 Missouri Trooper Jimmie Linegar was shot and killed by a white supremacist he and his partner stopped at a checkpoint; neither Trooper Linegar nor his partner were aware that the man they had stopped had just been indicted by a federal grand jury for involvement in a neo-Nazi group accused of murder. The suspect immediately exited the vehicle and opened fire on him with an automatic weapon.
Just a month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Froemsdorf was shot and killed—with his own gun—after making a traffic stop. When the Trooper made that stop he didn’t know that the driver was wanted on four warrants out of Texas—But again the suspect knew it.
So Captain Johnson, I guess the mindset and recently committed crimes of the suspects that murdered those Missouri Troopers didn’t mean anything. The stops by the Troopers, as you have said, are entirely different events right?
Bullshit.

[RD2191]

Mike Brown was not armed and did not open fire, next.