2014 Avante Betting Tracker

[Avante]

Top 10 white receivers in my opinion (post 1960)

1.Lance Alworth
2.Ray Berry
3.Steve Largent
4.Fred Biletnikoff
5.Don Maynard
6.Wes Welker
7.Charley Hennigan
8.Tommy McDonald
9.Dwight Clark
10.Jordy Nelson

[Avante]

I'll be searching for some info to help me get a read on the over/under. I can't take the Pats while rooting for the Seahawks, did that with Ohio St/Oregon and it sucked.

So far I haven't lost an O/U play, something new to me this season.

[cantthinkofanything]

I'll be searching for some info to help me get a read on the over/under. I can't take the Pats while rooting for the Seahawks, did that with Ohio St/Oregon and it sucked.

So far I haven't lost an O/U play, something new to me this season.

I gotta come clean. Lost on the -7.5 on Seattle. Did a no no and doubled up on a bet I didn't like much and took New England -7.5. Worked out but not a very good strategy. If I end up betting on SB, gotta go with the Pats.

[Darth_Pelican]

XLVIII

2014
East Rutherford, NJ
Seattle (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/seahawks) vs. Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos)
Denver -2.5 (47.5)
Seattle 43 Denver 8
Underdog-Over


XLVII
2013
New Orleans, LA
San Francisco (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/49ers) vs. Baltimore (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/ravens)
San Francisco -4.5 (48)
Baltimore 34 San Francisco 31
Underdog-Over


XLVI
2012
Indianapolis, IN
N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)
New England -2.5 (53)
N.Y. Giants 21 New England 17
Underdog-Under


XLV
2011
Arlington, TX
Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)
Green Bay -3 (45)
Green Bay 31 Pittsburgh 25
Favorite-Over


XLIV
2010
Miami, FL
New Orleans (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/saints) vs. Indianapolis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/colts)
Indianapolis -5 (57)
New Orleans 31 Indianapolis 17
Underdog-Under


XLIII
2009
Tampa, FL
Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)vs. Arizona (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/cardinals)
Pittsburgh -7 (46)
Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23
Underdog-Over


XLII
2008
Glendale, AZ
N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)
New England -12 (55)
N.Y. Giants 17 New England 14
Underdog-Under


XLI
2007
Miami, FL
Indianapolis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/colts) vs. Chicago (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/bears)
Indianapolis -7 (47)
Indianapolis 29 Chicago 17
Favorite-Under


XL
2006
Detroit, MI
Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)vs. Seattle (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/seahawks)
Pittsburgh -4 (47)
Pittsburgh 21 Seattle 10
Favorite-Under


XXIX
2005
Jacksonville, FL
New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. Philadelphia (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/eagles)
New England -7 (46.5)
New England 24 Philadelphia 21
Underdog-Under


XXXVIII
2004
Houston, TX
New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. Carolina (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/panthers)
New England -7 (37.5)
New England 32 Carolina 29
Underdog-Over


XXXVII
2003
San Diego, CA
Tampa Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/buccaneers) vs. Oakland (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/raiders)
Oakland -4 (44)
Tampa Bay 48 Oakland 21
Underdog-Over


XXXVI
2002
New Orleans, LA
New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. St. Louis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/rams)
St. Louis -14 (53)
New England 20 St. Louis 17
Underdog-Under


XXXV
2001
Tampa, FL
Baltimore (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/ravens) vs. N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants)
Baltimore -3 (33)
Baltimore 34 N.Y. Giants 7
Favorite-Over


XXXIV
2000
Atlanta, GA
St. Louis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/rams) vs. Tennessee (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/titans)
St. Louis -7 (45)
St. Louis 23 Tennessee 16
Push-Under


XXXIII
1999
Miami, FL
Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos) vs. Atlanta (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/falcons)
Denver -7.5 (52.5)
Denver 34 Atlanta 19
Favorite-Over


XXXII
1998
San Diego, CA
Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos) vs. Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)
Green Bay -11 (49)
Denver 31 Green Bay 24
Underdog-Over


XXXI
1997
New Orleans, LA
Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)
Green Bay -14 (49)
Green Bay 35 New England 21
Push-Over


XXX
1996
Tempe, AZ
Dallas (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)
Dallas -13.5 (51)
Dallas 27 Pittsburgh 17
Underdog-Under


XXIX
1995
Miami, FL
San Francisco (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. San Diego (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/chargers)
San Francisco -18.5
San Francisco 49 San Diego 26
Favorite-Over

[Avante]

I gotta come clean. Lost on the -7.5 on Seattle. Did a no no and doubled up on a bet I didn't like much and took New England -7.5. Worked out but not a very good strategy. If I end up betting on SB, gotta go with the Pats.

I saw a backdoor cover for GB at 7.5. Would have played the game at 7. I was pretty confident about NE, I should have played more.

Belichick/Brady in a big game, just to potent a duo to go against from an ATS perspective.

[Avante]

XLVIII

2014

East Rutherford, NJ

Seattle (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/seahawks) vs. Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos)

Denver -2.5 (47.5)

Seattle 43 Denver 8

Underdog-Over



XLVII

2013

New Orleans, LA

San Francisco (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/49ers) vs. Baltimore (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/ravens)

San Francisco -4.5 (48)

Baltimore 34 San Francisco 31

Underdog-Over



XLVI

2012

Indianapolis, IN

N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)

New England -2.5 (53)

N.Y. Giants 21 New England 17

Underdog-Under



XLV

2011

Arlington, TX

Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)

Green Bay -3 (45)

Green Bay 31 Pittsburgh 25

Favorite-Over



XLIV

2010

Miami, FL

New Orleans (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/saints) vs. Indianapolis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/colts)

Indianapolis -5 (57)

New Orleans 31 Indianapolis 17

Underdog-Under



XLIII

2009

Tampa, FL

Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)vs. Arizona (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/cardinals)

Pittsburgh -7 (46)

Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23

Underdog-Over



XLII

2008

Glendale, AZ

N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)

New England -12 (55)

N.Y. Giants 17 New England 14

Underdog-Under



XLI

2007

Miami, FL

Indianapolis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/colts) vs. Chicago (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/bears)

Indianapolis -7 (47)

Indianapolis 29 Chicago 17

Favorite-Under



XL

2006

Detroit, MI

Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)vs. Seattle (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/seahawks)

Pittsburgh -4 (47)

Pittsburgh 21 Seattle 10

Favorite-Under



XXIX

2005

Jacksonville, FL

New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. Philadelphia (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/eagles)

New England -7 (46.5)

New England 24 Philadelphia 21

Underdog-Under



XXXVIII

2004

Houston, TX

New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. Carolina (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/panthers)

New England -7 (37.5)

New England 32 Carolina 29

Underdog-Over



XXXVII

2003

San Diego, CA

Tampa Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/buccaneers) vs. Oakland (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/raiders)

Oakland -4 (44)

Tampa Bay 48 Oakland 21

Underdog-Over



XXXVI

2002

New Orleans, LA

New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots) vs. St. Louis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/rams)

St. Louis -14 (53)

New England 20 St. Louis 17

Underdog-Under



XXXV

2001

Tampa, FL

Baltimore (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/ravens) vs. N.Y. Giants (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/giants)

Baltimore -3 (33)

Baltimore 34 N.Y. Giants 7

Favorite-Over



XXXIV

2000

Atlanta, GA

St. Louis (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/rams) vs. Tennessee (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/titans)

St. Louis -7 (45)

St. Louis 23 Tennessee 16

Push-Under



XXXIII

1999

Miami, FL

Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos) vs. Atlanta (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/falcons)

Denver -7.5 (52.5)

Denver 34 Atlanta 19

Favorite-Over



XXXII

1998

San Diego, CA

Denver (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/broncos) vs. Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)

Green Bay -11 (49)

Denver 31 Green Bay 24

Underdog-Over



XXXI

1997

New Orleans, LA

Green Bay (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. New England (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/patriots)

Green Bay -14 (49)

Green Bay 35 New England 21

Push-Over



XXX

1996

Tempe, AZ

Dallas (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. Pittsburgh (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/)

Dallas -13.5 (51)

Dallas 27 Pittsburgh 17

Underdog-Under



XXIX

1995

Miami, FL

San Francisco (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/) vs. San Diego (http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/teams/team-page.cfm/team/chargers)

San Francisco -18.5

San Francisco 49 San Diego 26

Favorite-Over





Thanks, but...

I'm still trying to figure out just what's important with o/u plays, yep...a rookie. I did uncover a few strong trends like...11-1 under on the road (my other plays). So I 'm thinking ...home/road...is a biggie here. Obviously both being road teams.

I do wonder if playing in Arizona every season gives Seattle any kind of advantage.

[Avante]

I think I'll take that 2000 tax free $$$$$ and buy a big screen Samsung HD TV for the bedroom. Life is good, hahaha!!!!! And still have $$$$$ left to play on the SB:hat

[Avante]

The Seahawks need a speedy back who can catch the ball. Something they've never had.

Sherman Smith
Curt Warner
Chris Warren
Shawn Alexander
Marshawn Lynch

...nay!

[cantthinkofanything]

I think I'll take that 2000 tax free $$$$$ and buy a big screen Samsung HD TV for the bedroom. Life is good, hahaha!!!!! And still have $$$$$ left to play on the SB:hat

congrats on being in the 0% income tax bracket

[Avante]

congrats on being in the 0% income tax bracket

Do you simply work at never getting it?

So ya take a bunch of numbers, then work out what those numbers mean to something in the future. Then you sit there and watch it all unfold just like those numbers said it would, that's pretty cool and profitable. The thing is you need know those numbers.

[cantthinkofanything]

Do you simply work at never getting it?

So ya take a bunch of numbers, then work out what those numbers mean to something in the future. Then you sit there and watch it all unfold just like those numbers said it would, that's pretty cool and profitable. The thing is to know those numbers.

what? I didn't say you didn't win your $2000. You said, "tax free" so I assume you aren't in an income earning bracket. Which makes sense with your age.

But if you're saying you don't pay taxes on your gambling earnings when you pay income taxes, then you're an income cheat. So...when you bitch about the Muslims, you should next apologize to the soldiers who got their legs blown off because the military had to cut back that day due to Avante being selfish.

[Avante]

what? I didn't say you didn't win your $2000. You said, "tax free" so I assume you aren't in an income earning bracket. Which makes sense with your age.

But if you're saying you don't pay taxes on your gambling earnings when you pay income taxes, then you're an income cheat. So...when you bitch about the Muslims, you should next apologize to the soldiers who got their legs blown off because the military had to cut back that day due to Avante being selfish.

Dude, stick to...I fucked yo mama....once you try to go beyond that it just doesn't work...ok?

[Avante]

So who can tell me....

You've all heard of Jim Brown, he was a fullback, so who was his running back most of his career? And....who was his back up at fullback?

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, stick to...I fucked yo mama....once you try to go beyond that it just doesn't work...ok?

translation...I don't really have a good response but also can't let ctoa have the last word. yes, I am old gay pantywearing troll that Google's all day. and I will have the last word

[Avante]

translation...I don't really have a good response but also can't let ctoa have the last word. yes, I am old gay pantywearing troll that Google's all day. and I will have the last word

The sad thing about you is how you really can't figure out when you are dealing with a long time fan of football/track/music. Dumb kids like you need Google.

Dude, talk to me about Mel Anthony and "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis, Google???....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cantthinkofanything]

So who can tell me....

You've all heard of Jim Brown, he was a fullback, so who was his running back most of his career?

Ernie Green or Bobby Mitchell maybe...

[Avante]

Ernie Green or Bobby Mitchell maybe...

Bobby Mitchell ws a Big10 sprint/hurdles champ while at Illinois. A great running back, who ended up as a HOF receiver with the Redskins. So tell me (Google) why the Browns traded him?

Ernie Green was the answer, he was a so so talent.

This is what guys like me can do, while you run off to Google.

[NFO]

You've all heard of Jim Brown, he was a fullback, so who was his running back most of his career? And....who was his back up at fullback?

No one cares!!!!!

lol at thinking anyone here will learn anything from you.

Just troll on down to the local retirement home, trot out some of those "so you know who" lines to the ladies and get you some of that 80 year old pussy that hangs down to the floor. You can thank me later.

[Avante]

No one cares!!!!!

lol at thinking anyone here will learn anything from you.

Just troll on down to the local retirement home, trot out some of those "so you know who" lines to the ladies and get you some of that 80 year old pussy that hangs down to the floor. You can thank me later.

As you follow me from forum to forum, hahaha!!!!!!!!! Little man, are you really as fucked up as you act?

Go bug the kids here, ok?

[cantthinkofanything]

Bobby Mitchell ws a Big10 sprint/hurdles champ while at Illinois. A great running back, who ended up as a HOF receiver with the Redskins. So tell me (Google) why the Browns traded him?

Ernie Green was the answer, he was a so so talent.

This is what guys like me can do, while you run off to Google.

your question said "most of his career"...when in reality, you meant to say...

"I'm thinking of a running back who played with Jim Brown. There are several. None played with Brown for "most" of his career. But I'm thinking of one specficlly because I'd like to tell you some more useless info that comes to mind. Who is this running back?"

If you'd have asked it like that, I could have said, "I don't know". and then, you could have gloated that a normal person couldn't read your fucking mind.

but that's not how you did it

[cantthinkofanything]

The sad thing about you is how you really can't figure out when you are dealing with a long time fan of football/track/music. Dumb kids like you need Google.

Dude, talk to me about Mel Anthony and "Squirmin' " Sherman Lewis, Google???....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sure...don't know much about Mel Anthony but Lewis...from Michigan State....







yep...he knew about Michigan State long before Michigan State knew about him. But it didn't take Sherman Lewis long to be noticed. After all, how many 154-pound halfbacks spend half their time in opponents' end zones?
"I wanted to go to a big school to see if I could make it," the Louisville, Ky., native said Friday. "I grew up listening to University of Kentucky football. But blacks couldn't play in the SEC. I had to go somewhere West or North."
Or East - as in just East of Lansing.
"When we watched games on TV in the '50s, we were always looking for black athletes," Lewis said. "Minnesota had a lot. Iowa was loaded. And Michigan State had a history. It had 'em and played 'em. I remembered that from watching the Rose Bowl."
When "Squirmin' Sherman" got to campus, he couldn't believe the size of the Spartans. And he was talking about the freshman backs, not the senior linemen.
"I thought about what the coaches had told me - that I'd be better off at a smaller school - and wondered if they were right," Lewis said. "Ollie Dunlap and Earl Lattimore were huge. And Dewey Lincoln, the next-smallest guy, was about 5-foot-11, 185. I had to find a way to convince them."
yep...Duffy Daugherty and his staff held No. 20 out of full-speed contact drills in close quarters the first week of practice. Finally, Lewis asked to be treated like everybody else. And defenders couldn't crush what they couldn't catch.

The biggest problem he faced was discrimination - and not in the football program, where Daugherty's color-blind reputation was well-deserved.
"It's hard to pinpoint discrimination sometimes," Lewis said. "It can be subtle. But the town of East Lansing was still very segregated. It was hard to find a place to live there. And mixing wasn't condoned. The football program was definitely more progressive than the town was."
His senior year was a highlight reel. In a key win over the Northwestern Wildcats of Ara Parseghian, Lewis scored on a 29-yard reception and an 87-yard run, and then sealed the victory with an 84-yard punt return.
Lewis was third in the Heisman Trophy voting in 1963. No Michigan State player has ever finished higher.
"They made the right choice," Lewis said. "The guy who won it, Roger Staubach, had a fantastic year for Navy. He had a great game in their win at Michigan. And maybe if we'd beaten Illinois in that last game, I'd have had a chance."
That Big Ten title showdown was postponed five days to Thanksgiving afternoon after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
"Nobody wanted to play that day," Lewis said. "They cancelled the game after our pregame meal. Illinois went home. And we went inside and had a knockdown, drag-out practice, one of our best. But when we did play, we were down to our third-string quarterback. And we kept turning it over (in a 13-0 Illini win)."
Lewis was drafted by three teams - Cleveland in the NFL, the New York Jets in the AFL and Toronto in the CFL. He chose to go to Canada so he could play offense, then joined the Jets in 1966 for a year and a half before injuring his knee.
"I knew I wanted to coach," Lewis said. "The people I always looked up to were coaches. They were always the most respected people in the school or the neighborhood. And I knew what it took - being a teacher and being yourself. You can't try to be Rockne or Lombardi."
Lewis sent resumes to nearly 20 universities with no success. Finally, his high school created a job for him. And one year later, Daugherty gave him a shot when Don Coleman left the MSU staff.
As an assistant with the Spartans from 1969-82, Lewis hoped to take over one day. That dream continued through an NFL coaching career from 1983-2004.
"When Darryl Rogers left in 1980, I was the only assistant who stayed," Lewis said. "I thought I had a real good shot at it. But they hired Muddy Waters, and I worked for him. Then, when George Perles came in, he wanted to bring his own coordinator, and I caught on with San Francisco. I tried to come back when George left. But everything happens for a reason, I guess."
Lewis spent nine seasons as the 49ers' wide receivers and running backs coach and earned three Super Bowl rings. He moved to Green Bay as Mike Holmgren's offensive coordinator in 1992 and won another title in eight years with Brett Favre. He also coordinated the offense for Minnesota in 2000-01 and with Detroit from 2002-04.
"It's hard to say how close I came to getting a head coaching job," Lewis said. "I had a second interview with Dallas when Chan Gailey got it. And I thought I interviewed well with Chicago, Arizona and Atlanta. The job I always wanted was Michigan State."
yep....His contributions made it easier for other black coaches in the NFL. And Super Bowl coaches Tony Dungy of Indianapolis and Lovie Smith of Chicago made sure to salute Lewis contributions.

"I was very proud in the two weeks leading up to the game," Lewis said. "They're two classy guys. And it mattered to all of us. It was kind of like when Joe Louis won the heavyweight championship of the world."
Lewis' world is different these days. After leaving the Lions, he spent a year as an analyst on Michigan State radio broadcasts. But at age 64, he said he loves retirement and the chance to do things he has never done - wherever and whenever he wants.
yep... if the San Diego Chargers called, he'd be there tomorrow. And if the Spartans ever needed him, he'd be there today.

[cantthinkofanything]

or were you thinking of a different Sherman Lewis?

[Avante]

or were you thinking of a different Sherman Lewis?

The point I was trying to make is who do you know that saw that Anthony/Lewis duo play? How about Jim "Cannonball" Butler? Rufus "The Roadrunner" Ferguson? "Choo Choo" Winters? I.M HIPP????????

Little man, I don't need Google...ok?

So tell me what track event did Lewis excell in at the Big10 level?

Do you really think Google tells you who was white/black? You'd have to have seen Don Perkins play to know he was.....what?

[cantthinkofanything]

The point I was trying to make is who do you know that saw that Anthony/Lewis duo play? How about Jim "Cannonball" Butler? Rufus "The Roadrunner" Ferguson? "Choo Choo" Winters? I.M HIPP????????

Little man, I don't need Google...ok?

So tell me what track event did Lewis excell in at the Big10 level?

Do you really think Google tells you who was white/black? You'd have to have seen Don Perkins play to know he was.....what?

this is like me asking you after you're dead..."hey...who was the 2017 starting running back at Alabama?"

[NFO]

As you follow me from forum to forum, hahaha!!!!!!!!! Little man, are you really as fucked up as you act?

Go bug the kids here, ok?

I'm sorry, all I hear is, I'm sorry NFO I still can't answer that track trivia question.

[Avante]

this is like me asking you after you're dead..."hey...who was the 2017 starting running back at Alabama?"


I wasn't around in 1926 when Blind Lemon Jefferson first recored. I never saw Howard Drew the first black sprinter to run a world receord way back in the teens. I never saw "The Galloping Ghost" play or the Four Horsemen. Never saw George "Little Chocolate" Dixon fight or Ed "Strangler" Lewis rassle, so how come I;m all over it? Why can I talk about Mozelle Ellerbe, Andy Livingston, Rozia Singeltary, "Big" Ben Stevenson, Bo Jones, Kenny Washington.....? Yep...historian.

When do you finally figure it out?

[benefactor]

I'm sorry, all I hear is, I'm sorry NFO I still can't answer that track trivia question.
:lol

[Avante]

:lol

Harrison Dillard rarely lost to anyone, the last guy yo beat him in thre hurdles...Billy Porter. The last guy to bet him in a sprint...George Walker. Neither of those guys went to Ohio schools, so the guy is simply fucking around. Notice how he can't answer the question? He fucked it up and is now bullshitting.

Little man. there is nobody more into sprinting than...me.

[cantthinkofanything]

I wasn't around in 1926 when Blind Lemon Jefferson first recored. I never saw Howard Drew the first black sprinter to run a world receord way back in the teens. I never saw "The Galloping Ghost" play or the Four Horsemen. Never saw George "Little Chocolate" Dixon fight or Ed "Strangler" Lewis rassle, so how come I;m all over it? Why can I talk about Mozelle Ellerbe, Andy Livingston, Rozia Singeltary, "Big" Ben Stevenson, Bo Jones, Kenny Washington.....? Yep...historian.

When do you finally figure it out?

You're the one who said, "The point I was trying to make is who do you know that saw that Anthony/Lewis duo play?"
You were equating your mastery of the sport with being there to see it happen.
Now, you're talking about it using books and recorded media to bolster your knowledge. So you've got books and magazines of all this shit.
You know what else has books and magazines and all kinds of concise trivia available to those that are interested?
yep...Google...
gotta admit though...when people look back at Spurstalk in the 2010's....yep...there was this cat...old dude...hung out with imaginary black guys...made me waste minutes of my life replying about nonsense...

[Avante]

You're the one who said, "The point I was trying to make is who do you know that saw that Anthony/Lewis duo play?"
You were equating your mastery of the sport with being there to see it happen.
Now, you're talking about it using books and recorded media to bolster your knowledge. So you've got books and magazines of all this shit.
You know what else has books and magazines and all kinds of concise trivia available to those that are interested?
yep...Google...
gotta admit though...when people look back at Spurstalk in the 2010's....yep...there was this cat...old dude...hung out with imaginary black guys...made me waste minutes of my life replying about nonsense...

I'll go slow...

Got into televised football in the late 50's. Starting playing myself a little earlier. What I didn't see myself I found out about, I researched. Yep, a student.

Google won't help you with....white sub 9.5 sprinters or white running backs out of the Pac12. You either know that stuff or ya don't.

Why do you struggle so badly with this?

[cantthinkofanything]

I'll go slow...

Got into televised football in the late 50's. Starting playing myself a little earlier. What I didn't see myself I found out about, I researched. Yep, a student.

Google won't help you with....white sub 9.5 sprinters or white running backs out of the Pac12. You either know that stuff or ya don't.

Why do you struggle so badly with this?

hahaha. they didn't have TV in the late 50's! troll

[Avante]

hahaha. they didn't have TV in the late 50's! troll

Dude, you cannot be this dumb.

I was watching....FLASH GORDON...around 1955.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf81LlYA48o&list=PL8D5C7D9D00675815

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, you cannot be this dumb.

I was watching....FLASH GORDON...around 1955.

did he play with Sammy Baugh?

[Avante]

did he play with Sammy Baugh?

While at TCU "Slingin" Sammy had Billy Bob "Moose" Bodine at fullback and Ronnie Bull at running back, they ran a single wing. Their stud receiver was Dave Sime who would become an author, he wrote.."Flowers For Algerron".

Baugh was also a defensive back and a punter, he averaged over 55 yards a punt while at TCU.

[Avante]

I confess it is entertaining watching people trying everything to get around......older guy who has seen it all and what he didn't see he researched.....ha~~~~~~ I do get a kick out of it.:hat

[NFO]

Harrison Dillard rarely lost to anyone, the last guy yo beat him in thre hurdles...Billy Porter. The last guy to bet him in a sprint...George Walker. Neither of those guys went to Ohio schools, so the guy is simply fucking around. Notice how he can't answer the question? He fucked it up and is now bullshitting.

Little man. there is nobody more into sprinting than...me.

I don't have to answer the question, I asked it. I already know the answer.

It would be like asking myself what I want for dinner. Fuck I already know what I am having for dinner, why answer a question I myself already know the answer to. Get with the program old timer.

What you want is for me to tell you the answer, ain't gonna happen. I will confirm a correct answer though, which has not happened.

[Avante]

I don't have to answer the question, I asked it. I already know the answer.

It would be like asking myself what I want for dinner. Fuck I already know what I am having for dinner, why answer a question I myself already know the answer to. Get with the program old timer.

What you want is for me to tell you the answer, ain't gonna happen. I will confirm a correct answer though, which has not happened.

You haven't noticed you had to follow me here with the question, that's how interested in it I'm not. It's real obvious you Googled something then realized you'd misunderstood it, and you are now stuck with acting stupid over it.

Little man, there is nobody who ever beat Dillard in a sprint who passed up running in the Olympic trials...ok? So why this need to be a liar?

[cantthinkofanything]

I confess it is entertaining watching people trying everything to get around......older guy who has seen it all and what he didn't see he researched.....ha~~~~~~ I do get a kick out of it.:hat

I must admit that I am somewhat intrigued that you seem to be able to do all of this and somehow still have time to change your diapers.

[Avante]

I must admit that I am somewhat intrigued that you seem to be able to do all of this and somehow still have time to change your diapers.

Little man, it's 1960, the German Armin Hary has won the Olympic 100m, what happened to SJS's Ray Norton? Who was favored to win both sprints ending up winning neither then fucking up the 4x1. 1960 was also the first Dallas Cowboys season and the AFL came into existance then. The first Cowboy QB, Eddie LeBaron all 5-8 of him. The first stud AFL player...Abner Haynes a running back for the Dallas Texans.

Little man, it is funny watching you, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude...long time track/football/music geek/freak...ok?

[NFO]

You haven't noticed you had to follow me here with the question, that's how interested in it I'm not. It's real obvious you Googled something then realized you'd misunderstood it, and you are now stuck with acting stupid over it.

Little man, there is nobody who ever beat Dillard in a sprint who passed up running in the Olympic trials...ok? So why this need to be a liar?

Wrong. I know the sprinter's grandson personally. Have seen the documentation that shows he set a school record as well as documents showing he beat Mr. Dillard in a few sprints.

No Google for this one old timer. You might need for this one though.

[Avante]

Wrong. I know the sprinter's grandson personally. Have seen the documentation that shows he set a school record as well as documents showing he beat Mr. Dillard in a few sprints.

No Google for this one old timer. You might need for this one though.


I don't Google shorty, no need to.

You're a liar little man, just that simple.


It's a fiction. Dillard was undefeated in 1945, lost to George Walker on June 15, 1946 and then went undefeated in more than 80 races until the 1948 AAU 100, won by Ewell in 10.6. He lost over 110h at that meet, lost in the FOT 100 and fell in the hurdles, and didn't lose again until January 1949 when he lost indoors over 60y/100y to NYU's Ira Kaplan. His nest 100 losses were in the USA-Scandinavia meet in Oslo in August 1949 [Stanfield 10.3, Peters 10.4, Dillard 10.4], and then on August 6, 1952 in Vienna by Thane Baker as both ran 10.4, and that covers his losing record from 1945-52 [excluding hurdle losses from 49-52]

[cantthinkofanything]

Little man, it's 1960, the German Armin Hary has won the Olympic 100m, what happened to SJS's Ray Norton? Who was favored to win both sprints ending up winning neither then fucking up the 4x1. 1960 was also the first Dallas Cowboys season and the AFL came into existance then. The first Cowboy QB, Eddie LeBaron all 5-8 of him. The first stud AFL player...Abner Haynes a running back for the Dallas Texans.

Little man, it is funny watching you, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude...long time track/football/music geek/freak...ok?

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?attachments/retard-jpg.141948/

[Avante]

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?attachments/retard-jpg.141948/

Immature and stupid not a good combo shorty.

[cantthinkofanything]

Immature and stupid not a good combo shorty.

6'3", 205.6 lbs. of twisted polished stainless steel...only thing short about me...yep...my 100m time.

[Avante]

6'3", 205.6 lbs. of twisted polished stainless steel...only thing short about me...yep...my 100m time.

Aren't you the one who...9.3???? dude the WR is 9.58?...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cantthinkofanything]

Aren't you the one who...9.3????

for cock gobbling

[Avante]

for cock gobbling

You knew nothing about yards vs meters did ya, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

I don't Google shorty, no need to.

You're a liar little man, just that simple.


It's a fiction. Dillard was undefeated in 1945, lost to George Walker on June 15, 1946 and then went undefeated in more than 80 races until the 1948 AAU 100, won by Ewell in 10.6. He lost over 110h at that meet, lost in the FOT 100 and fell in the hurdles, and didn't lose again until January 1949 when he lost indoors over 60y/100y to NYU's Ira Kaplan. His nest 100 losses were in the USA-Scandinavia meet in Oslo in August 1949 [Stanfield 10.3, Peters 10.4, Dillard 10.4], and then on August 6, 1952 in Vienna by Thane Baker as both ran 10.4, and that covers his losing record from 1945-52 [excluding hurdle losses from 49-52]

Not lying. Undefeated in what? Which races? To many generalities pal. Get with the program.

Face it, I came up with a question you don't have an answer for.

[Avante]

Not lying. Undefeated in what? Which races? To many generalities pal. Get with the program.

Face it, I came up with a question you don't have an answer for.

You Googled something then realized you'd read it wrong. We both know it...ok?

[NFO]

You Googled something then realized you'd read it wrong. We both know it...ok?

I explained the lack of Google use previously. Shocking, you can't read proper English and then comprehend it.

[Avante]

I explained the lack of Google use previously. Shocking, you can't read proper English and then comprehend it.

What's really shocking is how badly you fucked this up. It's not working little man...ok? It's real obvious you Googled it wrong and this is how ya cover that up. Sad to watch actually. Look at how hard you're working this, that right there gives you away.

I'm done with it slick, ok? You are a fucking liar and we both know it.

[NFO]

Nah old timer, I just have the answer and you don't.

Deal with it.

[Avante]

Nah old timer, I just have the answer and you don't.

Deal with it.

Why are you still following me around trying to sell a lie? Dude, let it go...ok? I'm tired of you lying, ok?

[NFO]

If you are going to call me a lair I'm going to keep responding to tell you that I (a) did not lie; and (b) you still have not provided me with a correct answer.

Deal with it.

[Avante]

If you are going to call me a lair I'm going to keep responding to tell you that I (a) did not lie; and (b) you still have not provided me with a correct answer.

Deal with it.

Ok, I'll deal with so there is no need to keep talking about it...ok? I'll deal with it....ok?

Yep, you stumped me. I don't know it all..

There now let it go...ok?

[NFO]

Whatever you have to tell yourself old man.

[Avante]

Whatever you have to tell yourself old man.

I'm not the one having to make shit up little guy, ok?

[NFO]

Whatever you have to tell yourself old man.

[Avante]

Whatever you have to tell yourself old man.


You act retarded, you do know that, right?

[NFO]

The pot calling the kettle black.


Whatever makes you feel better about yourself man.

[Avante]

The pot calling the kettle black.


Whatever makes you feel better about yourself man.

Dude, go lie to others....ok? You're boring me amigo, ok?

[NFO]

Then why do you keep quoting me?

Can't "let it go" can you?

You might want to see a shrink on that along with the myraid of other things likely wrong with you.

[benefactor]

Man...NFO really has the old man squirming.:lol

[Avante]

Man...NFO really has the old man squirming.:lol

Guy runs off to Google something about track, he comes across something but fucks it up. Then after realizing that he's now on the spot. So he starts lying about it to save face. Following me from forum to forum.

Dude, he's boring the fuck out of me...ok? He's obviously lying and it's sad to watch.

[Avante]

Then why do you keep quoting me?

Can't "let it go" can you?

You might want to see a shrink on that along with the myraid of other things likely wrong with you.

I let it go asshole, you're the one who brought it here. So how about getting it right for a change, ok?

Dude, it really is sad watching you having to lie about this....wow~~~

[NFO]

Told you before (several times by the way), the track question was not from Google. Shocking how you cannot comprehend that, well I mean it is really not actually.

If you "let it go" then why do you keep quoting me???

You have to get the "last word", which means you have a low self-esteem that you need to have validated. Sad actually. I could quote you and type "abc" and you'd feel the need to respond.

Go find some other forum to valiate your low self-esteem old timer.

[Avante]

Told you before (several times by the way), the track question was not from Google. Shocking how you cannot comprehend that, well I mean it is really not actually.

If you "let it go" then why do you keep quoting me???

You have to get the "last word", which means you have a low self-esteem that you need to have validated. Sad actually. I could quote you and type "abc" and you'd feel the need to respond.

Go find some other forum to valiate your low self-esteem old timer.

Do you see me down there at the college forum talking about this? You followed me here with it, so why more lies?

Ok, starting right now I'm done with the question and you.

Now watch this little shit, hahaha!!!!!!!!!! Yep...OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!! The boy has a bad case of Avanteitist, hahahaha!!!!!!!

[NFO]

lol "starting now"

I haven't quoted you in several posts. Yet you come in to quote me. lol

Self-esteem issues and the need for self validation from an old timer. A sign the times have passed you by.

[Avante]

Yep, totally/100%...OWNED, HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

abc

[Avante]

This really is sad to watch, poor little guy.

[NFO]

Told you before (several times by the way), the track question was not from Google. Shocking how you cannot comprehend that, well I mean it is really not actually.

If you "let it go" then why do you keep quoting me???

You have to get the "last word", which means you have a low self-esteem that you need to have validated. Sad actually. I could quote you and type "abc" and you'd feel the need to respond.

Go find some other forum to valiate your low self-esteem old timer.



abc



This really is sad to watch, poor little guy.


:rollin I knew you would respond to that. What a loser. Time to hang'em up old man. You done.

[Avante]

:rollin I knew you would respond to that. What a loser. Time to hang'em up old man. You done.

It isn't obvious by now I stopped reading you long ago? I just see ...STUPID..and mess with ya, and it's funny watching how ya act, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, you now belong to me as we are seeing. AVANTEITIST at it's best, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

Bottom line is old man I said jump and you said "How high?"

Quit trying to improve your self-esteem via the interwebs old timer.

The level of sadness for you goes up each time to attempt to put some words together in an attempt to come up with a meaningful response.

[Avante]

I don't think I've ever seen a worst case of AVANTEITIST than what this little fuck has, wow~~~~~~~~~~~

[NFO]

Justify it anyway you want old timer, but your just a hack.

Also work on your grammar. Sad.

[Avante]

Ok time to put this freak on ignore with Blake.

[NFO]

You felt the need to post that?? No you don't have self-esteem and need to be validated issues. lol

[Avante]

I wanna see Russell Wilson win another SB, I'm getting a kick out of all those who don't get it. But, how can I or anyone bet against Belichick/Brady in a big game? So I'm in a sucky "spot". I can't find anything strong on an O/U play so fuck it.

I'll pocket the $2100 (here) and just root for the Seahawks.

I played the number and Ohio State while wanting Oregon to win, that totally sucked, not doing that again.

RW in his first three seasons is doing things we've never seen before, what a stud!

Most rookie td's ever by an NFC QB.
Highest passer rating ever by a third year QB
Only 300 passer/100 rusher in a game
Only thrd year QB to start two SB's
Most wins in history by a third year QB

Might be adding...only third year QB to win two SB;s.

[Avante]

The thing that gets me is how so many of you out there don't appear to get how rare it is for a college kid to step right in as a rookie and take over an NFL team. And then......win a SB and play in another in his first three seasons. Hell, it's never been done before.


Look at Joe Montana's first three seasons, look at Bradys. How anyone can't see what RW is doing...?????????????????? Look at Brett Favres first three seasons. Look at his back up, Aaron Rodgers.

Is it because he's black? Short? Black and short? What exactly is it?

Guy wins a SB last season.....crickets...he has a bad playoff game vs GB...HE SUCKS! HE SUCKS!.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding me?

No talk about how two of those INT;s were off the hands of Kearse.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiJ3jN-sjok






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtMZVVnEy08

In his three seasons RW has thrown for more than 70 TD's and less that 30 INT's. What other QB's can say that? Good luck finding one.

[Avante]

I'll try again....

What other QB had over 70 TD's and less than 30 INT's in his first three seasons?

I must confess it is sucking funny watching this.....yes but, he has a great back and defense. Well so did Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman....HALL OF FAME! This....he's surrounded by talent. Well so was Bart Starr...NINE HALL OF FAMERS ON THOSE TEAMS!!!!!!! Hell, Unitas had a HOF...receiver, TE, RB and tackle.

You little shits are cracking me up, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the guy were white and slow and had to stand in the pocket because he's no athlete...hmmmmm?

[NFO]

What other QB threw 4 INTs at home in the NFC title game, but his team won in spite of him?

[Avante]

What other QB threw 4 INTs at home in the NFC title game, but his team won in spite of him?

Tell me again about how Kurt Warner isn't eligable for the HOF, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you're dumb.

[NFO]

Tell me again about how Kurt Warner isn't eligable for the HOF, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you're dumb.

I'll tell you about KW again when you tell me again about RBs that came from Cali.

Spoiler alert. NO ONE FUCKING CARES.

[Avante]

I'll tell you about KW again when you tell me again about RBs that came from Cali.

Spoiler alert. NO ONE FUCKING CARES.

So dumb you had no clue Warner is eligible for the HOF, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just like to show off little man, do things little shits like you can't, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFO]

So dumb you had no clue Warner is eligible for the HOF, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This just proves you can't read. I said he was not eligible this past class, implying that he would be for 2015, in August. Shocker you can't read and comprehend at the same time.



I just like to show off little man,

You are sure putting on a show on how to be a retard. I'm sure you won't stop either. You were born to be a retard.



do things little shits like you can't, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like get tag teamed by two dudes from the track team. You are right, I can't do that, but congrats on your accomplishment.

[Avante]

This just proves you can't read. I said he was not eligible this past class, implying that he would be for 2015, in August. Shocker you can't read and comprehend at the same time.




You are sure putting on a show on how to be a retard. I'm sure you won't stop either. You were born to be a retard.




Like get tag teamed by two dudes from the track team. You are right, I can't do that, but congrats on your accomplishment.

Stupid, you said nothing about what class...ok? So wrong as usual.

Retarded is asking trivia questions knowing there is no answer.

Dude, you're an obvious idiot and it's sad to watch,you don't appear to know track or football. Why are you even here?

Does it hurt being stupid?

A midget wanting his ass kicked, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chunticakes]

ABC.

[NFO]

Stupid, you said nothing about what class...ok? So wrong as usual.

Now I know you can't read. lol



Retarded is asking trivia questions knowing there is no answer.

There is an answer. I have it, you don't. Guess you don't know track as well as you thought you did.



Why are you even here?

To prove that you are a loser. I just need you to keep responding to prove my point. Keep responding.



Does it hurt being stupid?

I wouldn't know, but I bet your medicine cabinet is chalk full of drugs to help you cope with being stupid.



A midget wanting his ass kicked, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you have to tell yourself old man to help you sleep.

[Avante]

Here's what we're going to be doing little man, unless you answer that trivia question I'm done with your lying ass.

You are a liar guy and this will prove it.

Now watch this little shit follow me around...CONSTANTLY...a Blake Jr.

[NFO]

Here's what we're going to be doing little man, unless you answer that trivia question I'm done with your lying ass.

You are a liar guy and this will prove it.

Like I said before I'm not going to give an alleged track expert the answer to a track question, but I will confirm an answer. Since you are struggling with the question so bad that you are probably losing sleep over it I'll throw you a bone. The sprinter's son once finished in the top 3 of the Hiseman voting.



Now watch this little shit follow me around...CONSTANTLY...a Blake Jr.

Not following, besides you keep responding.

[Avante]

Ok totally done with this freak. He just died!

[NFO]

That is not the correct answer.

Thanks for playing.

[Avante]

How can the Pats not be thinking about that storm back at home? I'd hate to have my family there all alone while I'm in Arizona.

Anyway...

I do believe Belichick, I don't think he knew anything about the footballs. Not sure I buy Brady not knowing anything. Hopefully we don't find out until after the game. Imagine on Saturday that ball boy...."I was just doing what I was told"...ouch~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

This is just too easy, haha!

66-49 $2170

A master at work and hopefully you guys picked up on how to win $$$$ betting the spread. It is all about trends/stats and history, anyone not getting this simply isn't getting it.

Not sure how I'll play the SB yet.

Right now I'm thinking pocket $2060 and play a sissy ass $110 on the Pats. I either win a few bucks or RW wins another SB. A win win situation.

Anyone still not getting RW?

Just too easy, hahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

It was funny watching this thread go from..."here we can all laugh at Avante's picks"..to..."damn, he's good!"....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How could anyone with the info I have and the undertanding of "spots" not be a master at beating the NFL point spread?

How many times have the Colts covered the spread vs their division, well? What team totally sucks ATS coming off a bye? What team is great ATS heading into a bye? Who sucks in nationally televised games ATS, who shines in that "spot"...well?


:king

[Blake]

It was funny watching this thread go from..."here we can all laugh at Avante's picks"..to..."damn, he's good!"....


Nobody said you're good except you. Nobody thinks you're good but you. You're still in a large hole on this board.

Deranged raving lunatic.

[Avante]

Nobody said you're good except you. Nobody thinks you're good but you. You're still in a large hole on this board.

Deranged raving lunatic.

So you are so far gone you really think you go from being terrible to great in "one" season, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dude, you cannot be this fucking stupid.

This little shit is the reason we jacked around like we did, look at how he acts over it, HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just too funny to miss out on.

Last season I did decide to share the gift, you all watched a master at work. Next season I will help you with your picks, give ya the info you need to know.

[Clipper Nation]

You went from terrible three years ago to still terrible two years ago to posting Mason's picks last year, Old Faggot.

[Avante]

You went from terrible three years ago to still terrible two years ago to posting Mason's picks last year, Old Faggot.

Dude, Mason doesn't even live here anymore and he grew tired of kicking Blake around just like I did.

I told everyone 2014 would finally be my legit $$$$ making plays, so what happened? Yep, won over two grand right here in front of everyone. So why fight it so hard, oh yeah...faggot..hahaha!!!!!!!!!

Dummy, you saw an expert at work, you should have took notes.

[Clipper Nation]

More lies from the Old Faggot.

[Avante]

More lies from the Old Faggot.

I didn't win over 2000 right here in living color, hell yes I did and it's documented. Lies????

Dummy, how can ya know all the stuff I know about playing the ATS and lose? Well?

So tell me faggot which team totally owns it's division from an ATS perspective, well? Who totally sucks in prime time games from an ATS perspective, well?

[Blake]

So you are so far gone you

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://framia.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/PPR45247-joker-haha.png

[Avante]

Little people, you do have to do your homework, but with the info we have available today....


http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/comparing-nfl-spreads-results-between-home-teams-and-visitors.aspx

What will happen is you fucks are simply too damn lazy to even read that, that's why you stay stupid over this. I take the time I know what I'm doing, as you all saw.

Now nobody will read that, then run their mouth, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fun, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

I didn't win over 2000
Finally admitting it.


Dummy, how can ya know all the stuff I know about playing the ATS and lose?
Easily.

[Avante]

Finally admitting it.


Easily.

Dude, it's all there, week by week by week, I started off sucking...minus 330 then started to turn it around, by week 17, up over two grand. It's all there slick for all to see, yep an expert at work. I even got the SB right, just didn't play any $$$ on it.

Why fight reality so hard faggot? Dude, it's all there staring you in the face, ok?

I finally gave out my legit plays, you saw a master performance. Only an expert can go from minus 330 to plus 2170 in a season. The trick...MONEY MANAGEMENT...playing big on "spots'...ok stupid?

Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remember this take little man...

So 64-49 plus $1470.

So here's the plan, I'm going to pocket a grand, take the 6.5 and put $ 440 on the Buckeyes tonight. Urban Myers has never failed to win the $$$$ as a dog. If he loses tonight my betting season is over. Will end up 64-50 plus $1030 (here). If I win...65-49 $1870 and moving on, with 330 to play, will now pocket $1540.

Meyers is used to the big stage/game that can't be said about Helfrich

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Want more $$$$ winners? Does it hurt being stupid?

Remember this one faggot?

Will pocket $1540, and play $330 on the Pats - 6.5. The Pats as a single digit fav...17-4 in the last 21. The Pats have owned Andrew Luck, why should that change? I have the better QB at home "again" vs the inferior QB on the road "again". Nice "spot" to be in.

That wass just toooooooooooooooooo damn easy, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's $770 right there ya little queer, want more?

Little dumb kids not knowing how to deal with experts, love it, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do have fun with this just like I said I would:lobt2:

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, it's all there, week by week by week, I started off sucking...

Again, glad you can finally admit it.

[Avante]

Again, glad you can finally admit it.

translation

I'll just ignore all his winning and winning and winning and winning, damn he's good, and act stupid as usual. The guy got red hot in the second half, just like he said he would, but I must play the idiot, it's what I do. I saw a master at work, if I just weren't so dumb.

[Clipper Nation]

I'll just ignore all his winning and winning and winning and winning

Can't ignore what isn't happening.

[Avante]

Can't ignore what isn't happening.

Dude, you blind? You didn't see all those $$$$$ winning plays? You missed those two over $700 winners in OSU/Pats? Want more?

Little man, it's all there why play retarded? Oh yeah, you aren't playing.

[Blake]

Lunatic

[Avante]

Lunatic

translation

Damn that Avante, he showed us all what an expert can do, yep he did what he said he would, he won over two grand right here in plain sight. Made me look totally stupid, not that that's hard to do. The guy is good as we saw.

Just look at his OSU/Pats takes, right there says it all.

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, you blind? You didn't see all those $$$$$ winning plays?

I saw all of Mason's $$$$$ winning plays. You certainly didn't have any.

[Avante]

Are these two freaks fucked or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! I win over two grand right here and look at how they act, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! Fucking funny:lol

[Avante]

I saw all of Mason's $$$$$ winning plays. You certainly didn't have any.


So it's...

When losing....

You...there is no Mason, those were all your picks.

When winning.

You...those were all Masons picks.


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Hey avante. You're a faggot.

[Avante]

I'm here right now little fella, ya wanna talk about the best "Spots" for your Chargers from an ATS perspective? Dude, why fight it so damn hard?

[Avante]

translation

That was pretty stupid of me, talking about there is no Mason when he's losing and then give Mason the credit for winning. Pretty damn dumb, huh?

[Avante]

Hey CN, you've never met a real gambler have you? You know zero about ATS betting don't you? Why not let me help ya guy, it's far more fun watching the games with some $$$$ on them. I could have you winning $$$$$ in no time at all, so instead of doing your dummy kid bullshit why not let an expert guide ya along?

I'd start you off with home/road, it all starts there. It's all about roles guy, who excelled in whatever role they' re in, yep. "spots".

Dude, the dumb kid crap has to go, ok? Why you have some need to look 17 and stupid, ??????????

You come off as a guy with no class little man, a mini prick. Why don't we work on changing that, ok? No need for you to look retarded day in and day out, ok? Let me show you how to make some $$$$, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

Hey avante. You're a faggot.

[Avante]

Can we cool the stupid little kid bullshit guy? You really this fucking immature? Dude, why not let me teach you how to really enjoy the NFL, that's by having $$$$ on the games. I 'm dead serious guy, It's about fundamentals and knowing "spots". You saw how I knew when to pull the trigger on a game and wager 330-440, it's all aout those "spots".

CN are you ever going to grow up guy? Don't you know how fucking stupid you look playing all this silly shit ya play? Come on man, give that stupid shit a break, ok? Let me help ya win some $$$$ ok? Stop acting like some retarded little kid, time to be a man, ok?

CN, dump the immaturity ok guy. I can show you how to win some $$$$, why not?

You try too hard to be funny little man, which would be ok if we were all 13.

[NFO]

translation

You need a new translator. All of your translations suck.

Translation. Quit translating other peoples posts, it is retarded.

[Blake]

Can we cool the stupid little kid bullshit guy? You really this fucking immature? Dude, why not let me teach you how to really enjoy the NFL, that's by having $$$$ on the games. I 'm dead serious guy, It's about fundamentals and knowing "spots". You saw how I knew when to pull the trigger on a game and wager 330-440, it's all aout those "spots".

CN are you ever going to grow up guy? Don't you know how fucking stupid you look playing all this silly shit ya play? Come on man, give that stupid shit a break, ok? Let me help ya win some $$$$ ok? Stop acting like some retarded little kid, time to be a man, ok?

CN, dump the immaturity ok guy. I can show you how to win some $$$$, why not?

You try too hard to be funny little man, which would be ok if we were all 13.

lying is what immature little kids do.

And apparently grumpy fat old pedo fucks

[Avante]

You need a new translator. All of your translations suck.

Translation. Quit translating other peoples posts, it is retarded.

You really do need other interests guy, ok? Your obsession with me is strange.

[Avante]

lying is what immature little kids do.

And apparently grumpy fat old pedo fucks

Dude, all my $2170 winning picks are right here. Why ignore the facts?

[NFO]

You really do need other interests guy, ok? Your obsession with me is strange.

And your obsession with being at a place where not one poster wants you here is even stranger.

Its like that that slow kid in grade school who deosn't realize he is the slow kid. Kind of sad actually.

[Avante]

And your obsession with being at a place where not one poster wants you here is even stranger.

Its like that that slow kid in grade school who deosn't realize he is the slow kid. Kind of sad actually.

You mean that slow kid who can't spell doesn't? Why worry so much about me little man, I'm all you do here, why?

And what's with...It's like that that..?

Don't type like a retard and try and play critic ok stupid?

[NFO]

You mean that slow kid who can't spell doesn't? Why worry so much about me little man, I'm all you do here, why?

So you caught a spelling error and typo. Good for you. I'm pretty sure you have plenty of those in this forum, along with the numerous punctuation errors.

Maybe if you focused more on "spots" and trends than on my spelling you could have made 10K instead of the lowly 2K you allegedly won.

[Avante]

So you caught a spelling error and typo. Good for you. I'm pretty sure you have plenty of those in this forum, along with the numerous punctuation errors.

Maybe if you focused more on "spots" and trends than on my spelling you could have made 10K instead of the lowly 2K you allegedly won.

Just don't be talking smarts and fuck up spelling, ok guy?

So what do you know about ATS betting? I'm betting nothing.

Little man, why this obsession with me?

[NFO]

Just don't be talking smarts and fuck up spelling, ok guy?

Then what is your excuse.



So what do you know about ATS betting? I'm betting nothing.

I know enough about betting aganst the spread but am not some self-proclaimed "expert" making chump change.

There you lost the bet, probably sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it. Hey look I spelled it right this time.

[Avante]

Then what is your excuse.




I know enough about betting aganst the spread but am not some self-proclaimed "expert" making chump change.

There you lost the bet, probably sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it. Hey look I spelled it right this time.

I keep asking you, why this obsession with me,well?

[NFO]

I keep asking you, why this obsession with me,well?

haha.

Just leave the forum then. Then it is all over. But you can't your addicted to making a fool out of yourself. I'm just here to point that out. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Avante]

haha.

Just leave the forum then. Then it is all over. But you can't your addicted to making a fool out of yourself. I'm just here to point that out. Nothing more, nothing less.

You don't think following me around like you do doesn't make you look foolish? Why so worried about me?

Little man, I;m all you do here, you look foolish!

And, ya don't know shit about ATS betting so you are also a liar.

[Aztecfan03]

So you caught a spelling error and typo. Good for you. I'm pretty sure you have plenty of those in this forum, along with the numerous punctuation errors.

Maybe if you focused more on "spots" and trends than on my spelling you could have made 10K instead of the lowly 2K you allegedly won.

For example, he wrote "Stupid enought" about an hour ago in the other thread.

[Aztecfan03]

Just don't be talking smarts and fuck up spelling, ok guy?

So what do you know about ATS betting? I'm betting nothing.

Little man, why this obsession with me?


Poor little guy so owned it's comical. Stupid enought to think anyone would actually read all that stupid shit.

Here we have another one with a bad case of Avanteist, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Dude, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on man.

[Aztecfan03]

Dude, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on man.
You want to be a hypocrite, you should expect to get called out on it.

[Avante]

You want to be a hypocrite, you should expect to get called out on it.

Dude, the last thing I'd ever want to be is a lowrent cocksucking hypocrite, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on little fella, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is fucking fun:lobt2:

[Aztecfan03]

Dude, the last thing I'd ever want to be is a lowrent cocksucking hypocrite, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on little fella, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is fucking fun:lobt2:

You should probably reexamine your life, because that is what you are.

[Avante]

You should probably reexamine your life, because that is what you are.

I'm not the one who comes here looking to see who I can bug, that's you. I talk football guy, give it a try, ok? Too many here worried about other posters, I don't care about that "until" they come to me. Dude, talk football and don't worry about posters, ok?

Talk about your team, not Avante, ok?

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm not the one who comes here looking to see who I can bug, that's you. I talk football guy, give it a try, ok? Too many here worried about other posters, I don't care about that "until" they come to me. Dude, talk football and don't worry about posters, ok?

Talk about your team, not Avante, ok?

Let's talk some football. The top NBA team that could play football?

yes...we have...

Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Kawhi Leonard
Danny Green
Tiago Splitter

[Avante]

Let's talk some football. The top NBA team that could play football?

yes...we have...

Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Kawhi Leonard
Danny Green
Tiago Splitter

They could play football vs other NBA teams, they'd stand no chance at all vs football players.

The best basketball/football team would be....

Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates
LeBron James
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
R.C.Owens
Jimmy Graham
Bob Hayes


Now tell me who was that Heisman winning QB who ended up in the NBA?

[Blake]

Dude, all my $2170 winning picks are right here. Why ignore the facts?

so are your $8000+ losing picks from the year before. It's documented and you're grossly ignoring it.

Seriously, I'm thinking you're fucking crazy. No smack. It's now the truth, I think you're clinically retarded.

[Blake]

They could play football vs other NBA teams, they'd stand no chance at all vs football players.

The best basketball/football team would be....

Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates
LeBron James
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
R.C.Owens
Jimmy Graham
Bob Hayes


Now tell me who was that Heisman winning QB who ended up in the NBA?

insane.

[Aztecfan03]

I'm not the one who comes here looking to see who I can bug, that's you. I talk football guy, give it a try, ok? Too many here worried about other posters, I don't care about that "until" they come to me. Dude, talk football and don't worry about posters, ok?

Talk about your team, not Avante, ok?
That is not me, but i saw your hypocrisy and called it out. You are the only person bugging a lot of people on here.

Oh, and I have been talking about my team plenty.

[Aztecfan03]

so are your $8000+ losing picks from the year before. It's documented and you're grossly ignoring it.

Seriously, I'm thinking you're fucking crazy. No smack. It's now the truth, I think you're clinically retarded.

He has definitely got a screw loose or something.

[cantthinkofanything]

Now tell me who was that Heisman winning QB who ended up in the NBA?

Broadway Joe?

[Avante]

so are your $8000+ losing picks from the year before. It's documented and you're grossly ignoring it.

Seriously, I'm thinking you're fucking crazy. No smack. It's now the truth, I think you're clinically retarded.

So I just all of a sudden figured it out in 2014, right? Come on little man, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, clinically retarded, I ;d have to be to waste my time talking to an obvious freak like you.

[Avante]

That is not me, but i saw your hypocrisy and called it out. You are the only person bugging a lot of people on here.

Oh, and I have been talking about my team plenty.

Who do I bug, could it be those like yourself who come here to see who they can bug?

[Avante]

He has definitely got a screw loose or something.

Blake is the kind of guy you have to laugh at, so we did. Then last season I got bored with him and decided to give out my legit plays.

That's it.

[Aztecfan03]

Who do I bug, could it be those like yourself who come here to see who they can bug?
You bug just about everyone.

[Avante]

Broadway Joe?

Dude, come on man.

[Avante]

You bug just about everyone.

Do you ever see me start any shit? Show me.

All I do is talk football.

[NFO]

You don't think following me around like you do doesn't make you look foolish? Why so worried about me?

Little man, I;m all you do here, you look foolish!

Not worried, just trying to get you to leave and make the forum actually enjoyable.



And, ya don't know shit about ATS betting so you are also a liar.

If your only making 2K and proclaim to be an "expert" at ATS betting, I'm thinking you are the liar. So called "experts" pull in way more than 2K. I mean if you are pulling in all these renewals every year and have all this extra cash to spend and are a so called "expert" you should be pulling in 2K on games, not a season.

Take your so called "expert" speak somewhere else.

[Avante]

Not worried, just trying to get you to leave and make the forum actually enjoyable.




If your only making 2K and proclaim to be an "expert" at ATS betting, I'm thinking you are the liar. So called "experts" pull in way more than 2K. I mean if you are pulling in all these renewals every year and have all this extra cash to spend and are a so called "expert" you should be pulling in 2K on games, not a season.

Take your so called "expert" speak somewhere else.


I'll try again, so how much $$$$$ do I make a year? Remember you know my pay grade, right?

[NFO]

Now tell me who was that Heisman winning QB who ended up in the NBA?

Had to be Manute Bol. lol

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, come on man.

It was that dude from Florida or Miami. Charlie. Charlie...

Google....Charlie Ward
and Florida State.

Shit...I'm counting it as a win.

[Blake]

Diagnosis, imo:


"Delusional disorder refers to a condition associated with one or more nonbizarre delusions of thinking—such as expressing beliefs that occur in real life such as being poisoned, being stalked, being loved or deceived, or having an illness, provided no other symptoms of schizophrenia are exhibited.

Delusions may seem believable at face value, and patients may appear normal as long as an outsider does not touch upon their delusional themes. Mood episodes are relatively brief compared with the total duration of the delusional periods. Also, these delusions are not due to a medical condition or substance abuse.

Themes of delusions may fall into the following types:

Grandiose type (patient believes that he has some great but unrecognized talent or insight, a special identity, knowledge, power, self-worth, or special relationship with someone famous......

persecutory type (patient believes he is being cheated, spied on, drugged, followed, slandered, or somehow mistreated);*...."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/delusional-disorder

[NFO]

I'll try again, so how much $$$$$ do I make a year? Remember you know my pay grade, right?

Based upon your estimated age, profession, etc... I am probably in the ball park. I could make a call to my former employer and be able to tell you anything about you financially. That is neither here nor there.

Long story short, if you are only making 2K in a season you are no "expert", which you aren't because if you were that "winnings" would be much higher.

[Avante]

It was that dude from Florida or Miami. Charlie. Charlie...

Google....Charlie Ward
and Florida State.

Shit...I'm counting it as a win.

I knew ya could do it.

[Avante]

Based upon your estimated age, profession, etc... I am probably in the ball park. I could make a call to my former employer and be able to tell you anything about you financially. That is neither here nor there.

Long story short, if you are only making 2K in a season you are no "expert", which you aren't because if you were that "winnings" would be much higher.

You do know there are all kinds of insurance, right? I sold hospitalization. Now in my career how many polices do I get renewals on and at what % of the original premium? Remember you know my pay rate, right? So since you know what it is, well, what is it? Come on guy, what is it?

[Avante]

Diagnosis, imo:


"Delusional disorder refers to a condition associated with one or more nonbizarre delusions of thinking—such as expressing beliefs that occur in real life such as being poisoned, being stalked, being loved or deceived, or having an illness, provided no other symptoms of schizophrenia are exhibited.

Delusions may seem believable at face value, and patients may appear normal as long as an outsider does not touch upon their delusional themes. Mood episodes are relatively brief compared with the total duration of the delusional periods. Also, these delusions are not due to a medical condition or substance abuse.

Themes of delusions may fall into the following types:

Grandiose type (patient believes that he has some great but unrecognized talent or insight, a special identity, knowledge, power, self-worth, or special relationship with someone famous......

persecutory type (patient believes he is being cheated, spied on, drugged, followed, slandered, or somehow mistreated);*...."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/delusional-disorder


When does it ever hit you...

track
football
music
literature

historian? What, never?

Blake, so you have never noticed how I can take all that stuff far deeper than anyone you know? Why fight it so hard?

[NFO]

Diagnosis, imo:


"Delusional disorder refers to a condition associated with one or more nonbizarre delusions of thinking—such as expressing beliefs that occur in real life such as being poisoned, being stalked, being loved or deceived, or having an illness, provided no other symptoms of schizophrenia are exhibited.

Delusions may seem believable at face value, and patients may appear normal as long as an outsider does not touch upon their delusional themes. Mood episodes are relatively brief compared with the total duration of the delusional periods. Also, these delusions are not due to a medical condition or substance abuse.

Themes of delusions may fall into the following types:

Grandiose type (patient believes that he has some great but unrecognized talent or insight, a special identity, knowledge, power, self-worth, or special relationship with someone famous......

persecutory type (patient believes he is being cheated, spied on, drugged, followed, slandered, or somehow mistreated);*...."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/delusional-disorder

BINGO

[cantthinkofanything]

I knew ya could do it.

Speaking of Charlie, did you see Whiplash?

[Avante]

Speaking of Charlie, did you see Whiplash?

Nope!

[NFO]

You do know there are all kinds of insurance, right?

There is more than one kind of insurance? No way!!! :rollin



I sold hospitalization.

Man do I feel bad for those policy holders.



Now in my career how many polices do I get renewals on and at what % of the original premium?

Don't care.



Remember you know my pay rate, right?

Where did I say that? I said I could ballpark it.



So since you know what it is, well, what is it? Come on guy, what is it?

I really really could care less.

[Avante]

Watching a show on ESPN, the top 10 Niners.

My opinion

1.Joe Montana
2.Jerry Rice
3.Ronnie Lott
4.Steve Young
5.Jim Johnson
6.Bob St.Clair
7.Joe "The Jet" Perry
8.Hugh "The King" McElhenny
9.Frank Gore
10.Roger Craig

What do I do with HOFers, Leo Nomellini, Charles Haley, Dave Wilcox?

[Avante]

Bottom line.

67-49 plus $2170

Right here in living color.

[NFO]

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.

As evidence by prior years.

[Blake]

Bottom line.

67-49 plus $2170

Right here in living color.

-$6000 right here in black and white

[NFO]

Math apparently is not Avante's strong suit.