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Clipper Nation
09-20-2015, 01:06 PM
:cry Hillary's PAC announced and carried out a birther investigation. :cry

:cry Being cucked so thoroughly has to hurt me, so I will throw another tantrum. :cry

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 01:06 PM
well you just lost your speaking privileges for the day since you can't act with common decency, i might try engaging you again tomorrow but as for now you're doneI'm speaking right now.

And you're not doing anything about it.

lol

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 01:08 PM
:cry I still don't know the difference between a PAC and a message board :cry

:cry I cuck myself hard because no one even bothers to cuck me anymore :cry

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 04:22 PM
Sure. I will talk shit about her for that if true. I have no problem with that. Especially if she is still doing it.

Are you gonna start talking shit about Trump and his supporters for still letting it live days ago?

I think you might have a problem doing that.
did trump himself make a birther claim recently? i heard one of the people at the rally ask the question, but i dont remember trump specifically commenting on that

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 05:13 PM
did trump himself make a birther claim recently? i heard one of the people at the rally ask the question, but i dont remember trump specifically commenting on thatHe tries to avoid it, but he never walked it back.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-birther-obama-119945

Exaggerator
09-20-2015, 05:17 PM
none of it is conspiracy, i've heard accounts from people who had kids there when it happened and i know a teacher who works at the school

I'm having an affair with the principal so I'm with you.

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 05:57 PM
He tries to avoid it, but he never walked it back.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-birther-obama-119945
so trump didnt make a birther claim

got it :tu

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:03 PM
so trump didnt make a birther claim

got it :tuSure thing. He's completely painted himself into a corner so he can't really say anything. That's how you get farces like last week's. :tu

:cryI like this guy!:cry

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:06 PM
so trump didnt make a birther claim

got it :tu

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:08 PM
so trump didnt make a birther claim

got it :tuWho said he did?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:10 PM
just making it clear for the record

Clipper Nation
09-20-2015, 06:11 PM
:lmao David getting shat on again. Dude's lifelong dream is to be the cup from 2Girls1Cup.

http://i.imgur.com/mCViars.jpg

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:14 PM
just making it clear for the recordWhose record?

How were you confused by what was posted?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:16 PM
"the record"

this thread. not to any specific poster.

glad its clear for the record that trump did not recently make a birther claim :tu

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:18 PM
"the record"

this thread. not to any specific poster.

glad its clear for the record that trump did not recently make a birther claim :tuWere you confused about the subject?

How was it unclear to you?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:27 PM
its all perfectly clear and on the record now :tu

no confusion

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:30 PM
its all perfectly clear and on the record now :tu

no confusionWas it unclear to you before?

Did you somehow not know about Trump's birther investigation?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:32 PM
there is no uncertainty or lack of clarity.

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:33 PM
there is no uncertainty or lack of clarity.Was there before you asked your question?

Were you confused then?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:35 PM
Was there before you asked your question?

Were you confused then?
i was just making sure you had your facts straight

fortunately there is no longer any confusion on the issue :tu

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:36 PM
i was just making sure you had your facts straightWhat made you think I might not have my facts straight?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:37 PM
What made you think I might not have my facts straight?
nothing. i was just making sure.

your defensiveness over the past 1-2 pages is perplexing, though. not sure why you're so invested into this

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:38 PM
nothing. i was just making sure.Why did you feel the need to make sure?

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:40 PM
Why did you feel the need to make sure?
no particular reason

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 06:54 PM
no particular reasonExactly. There was no reason for you to ask about that. :tu

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 06:59 PM
Exactly. There was no reason for you to ask about that. :tu
ok. but i did. and you've spent the last 2 pages talking about it.

you're welcome for giving you something to do

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 07:04 PM
ok. but i did. and you've spent the last 2 pages talking about it.

you're welcome for giving you something to doAs long as you admit you had no reason at all.:tu

spurraider21
09-20-2015, 07:05 PM
As long as you admit you had no reason at all.:tu
i already did a few posts ago

ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 07:12 PM
i already did a few posts agoYes, you did admit you had no reason at all.:tu

DMC
09-20-2015, 10:01 PM
Holy shit two Philos going at it. It's a Phile-off!

Chinook
09-21-2015, 06:23 AM
media narrative:

>robotics genius brings a homemade clock to school and is discriminated against because he's a muslim! outrageous!




what actually happened:

>known islamic activist sends his kid to school with a manufactured clock that was literally just taken out of its case and crammed into a pencil box

>not part of any school project

>first teacher he shows it to tells him not to show that around at school because it looks suspicious

>takes it to several classes and brings it out without explaining what it is

>takes it to an english class, clock's alarm goes off, he pulls it out and refuses to explain what it is or why he took it out

>teacher thought he was pulling a bomb hoax prank and told the principal

>principal calls the police, who come and lead him away for a bomb hoax

>dad stops the police from taking his cuffs off so he can do a tragic pose for the media first, before the kid is sent home

This definitely seems possible. That kid is totally mean-mugging the camera. I think the odds are really low he didn't know the political/legal implications of what had happened by that time, so maybe he was just upset at the people taking the picture. I dunno. The fact that he knew it looked suspicious and refused to put it away or explain it does seem like grounds for discipline. The kid may well have been trolling everyone.

Chinook
09-21-2015, 06:48 AM
Actually, they all knew it wasn't. They proved that with their actions.
...
What else was there to say. He said what it was and why he brought it to school. It wasn't the answer they wanted to get out of him so they escalated.

Did he say that? I don't recall. I haven't seen a ton of justification for it, and even less for why he kept whipping it out and wouldn't put it away. The uncertainty was whether the kid wanted people to believe it was a bomb. Completely separable from the fact that it wasn't one. He wasn't detained for having a bomb, but for pulling a hoax. Despite what some have said in this thread, that was always the reason he was detained.


What revelations are you saying are possible here.

I can't think of any that will change my mind. The school and the police overreacted and continue to act stupidly about thie. Your best argument is that the Muslim kid may have been uppity.

Despite what you keep trying to say, it's entirely possible that the police were completely in violation of the law by trying to question him without his parents and that the kid was an asshole who does not deserve the public support he's getting. Those two things can exist together just fine. Just like it was possible for Michael Brown to have been wrongfully killed by the police and still be a shining example of how easily an asshole idiot kid can get himself shot up. Anyone with an shred of perspective can see that.


You made it clear that you think this could all be justified if the Muslim kid was more uppity than has already been reported.

I absolutely didn't. There isn't a post in this thread where I suggested the police were justified in their interrogation method. In fact, I'd venture to say there isn't a post in this thread where I HAVEN'T said the police were absolutely NOT justified in their actions. There is something wrong with your reading comprehension or your intellectual honesty.


That's stupid.

Kids drink in school all the time now. It's best to be cool about it because nothing bad could ever happen.

Well, besides that not being what I said, it's not too far off from the reality. A kid who hasn't been any trouble tries to do something illegal but really not that bad can often get off. Again, you must not remember high school at all, or you weren't very observant when you were there.

Ignignokt
09-21-2015, 10:39 AM
So David posits that the school arrested the chillin because he was being sassy, I guess bomb hoaxes are equivalent to being sassy.

Pauly D
09-21-2015, 12:55 PM
aGit-XltUB4

MultiTroll
09-21-2015, 01:56 PM
Mark Cuban, Grandpa Overly Defensive Muslim Dint Do Nuffin, others on Bill Maher
Nice post. Key part is the Cuban phone call where sister is coaching, if not giving kid exact answer(s) to say.

spurraider21
09-21-2015, 02:22 PM
Starts at 1:25 of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE
:lol "my hobby is to invent stuff"

didnt know this kid invented the clock. for next year's science fair, i wonder if he's gna invent a paper mache volcano or invent a potato battery

ChumpDumper
09-21-2015, 02:34 PM
So David posits that the school arrested the chillin because he was being sassy, I guess bomb hoaxes are equivalent to being sassy.David, it wasn't a bomb hoax. Even you could probably tell it wasn't a bomb.

Maybe

Ignignokt
09-21-2015, 06:28 PM
David, it wasn't a bomb hoax. Even you could probably tell it wasn't a bomb.

Maybe

If it was a bomb then it wouldn't have been a bomb hoax. The subject is spelled out in the predicate here.

ChumpDumper
09-21-2015, 06:39 PM
If it was a bomb then it wouldn't have been a bomb hoax. The subject is spelled out in the predicate here.It wasn't even a bomb hoax.

It was a clock in a pencil case.

No charges.

Even against a Muslim.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:08 AM
It wasn't even a bomb hoax.

It was a clock in a pencil case.

No charges.

Even against a Muslim.

It's as if you didn't read or watch the actual news. He was suspended for a bomb hoax which is part of the zero tolerance policy. You don't like, tough luck, go protest.

The "clock" was a bunch of jumbled wires and a printed board with a screen panel that showed time increments mashed up in a faux suitcase for pencil storage. I'm sure the police knew the kid had no idea how to make a real bomb, because he sure didn't make a clock either, he just dissembled an old one. But that's not the point.

he was suspended. the arrest was just for show.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:14 AM
It's as if you didn't read or watch the actual news. He was suspended for a bomb hoax which is part of the zero tolerance policy. You don't like, tough luck, go protest.

The "clock" was a bunch of jumbled wires and a printed board with a screen panel that showed time increments mashed up in a faux suitcase for pencil storage. I'm sure the police knew the kid had no idea how to make a real bomb, because he sure didn't make a clock either, he just dissembled an old one. But that's not the point.

he was suspended. the arrest was just for show.Whose show?

Where was the "bomb" part of the "hoax bomb"?

Was it in a pencil?

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:20 AM
Whose show?

Where was the "bomb" part of the "hoax bomb"?


Was it in a pencil?


Why would a bomb hoax have to have a "bomb"?

Lastly, are you ignorant of what a pencil case is?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:23 AM
Why would a bomb hoax have to have a "bomb"? This is a timer hoax at best.


Lastly, are you ignorant of what a pencil case is?No, I am mocking you. Apparently you are ignorant of that.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:24 AM
https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfa1/v/t42.1790-2/12019640_1126203974067942_1044315351_n.mp4?efg=eyJ ybHIiOjg0NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=846&vabr=470&oh=898a385e237fb4dcacccc15eb496b415&oe=56019436

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:25 AM
https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfa1/v/t42.1790-2/12019640_1126203974067942_1044315351_n.mp4?efg=eyJ ybHIiOjg0NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=846&vabr=470&oh=898a385e237fb4dcacccc15eb496b415&oe=56019436Rent free.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:29 AM
This is a timer hoax at best.
Fail. Since all it was is a timer, how can it can't be a hoax?

No, I am mocking you. Apparently you are ignorant of that.

However in this case you would have been a faux idiot and not a true idiot.
But I have no incentive or proof to believe you so far.

mouse
09-22-2015, 10:30 AM
I apologize I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a fuck-tard,

Who isn't one?

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:30 AM
Rent free.

substance free

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:32 AM
Fail. Since all it was is a timer, how can it can't be a hoax? Please consult google since you've now demonstrated your lack of understanding the definition of "hoax". I doubt you have a thesaurus, you don't seem learned. Because if it's a timer it's a real timer. How can a real timer be a hoax?


If you were to believed, that would follow. However in this case you would have been a faux idiot and not a true idiot.
But I have no incentive or proof to believe you so far.To believe i am mocking you?

I'm always mocking you, as are many others. You're a running joke around here. Thanks for the laughs.

101A
09-22-2015, 10:32 AM
Our local junior high had a rash of bomb hoaxes last year (notes left in restrooms). Caused the entire school to be evacuated multiple times in a couple of months. Administrators set up cameras too specifically watch rest-rooms, caught the kid doing it.

He wasn't muslim.
He was arrested.

101A
09-22-2015, 10:34 AM
Just to be clear, no bomb, no clock, no muslim: just notes.

Still: Handcuffs.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:34 AM
Our local junior high had a rash of bomb hoaxes last year (notes left in restrooms). Caused the entire school to be evacuated multiple times in a couple of months. Administrators set up cameras too specifically watch rest-rooms, caught the kid doing it.

He wasn't muslim.
He was arrested.That's great.

What does that have to do with the OP?

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:39 AM
Because if it's a timer it's a real timer. How can a real timer be a hoax?



So why did you call a real timer a timer hoax?


To believe i am mocking you?

I'm always mocking you, as are many others. You're a running joke around here. Thanks for the laughs.

You take yourself too seriously on a message board. I don't want to hurt your E-rep or E-esteem, but the opposite is more true. You are the bukkake spoke of every forum, and well known to be hubristic and lacking awareness. Keep thumping your chest, Special Needs, it's always a show.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:42 AM
That's great.

What does that have to do with the OP?

Exhibit A
It seems as if he's being dense to miss your point, although he could claim he's doing it to be mocking. Yet, he's always in character, so we can discard his excuse.
Staying on topic requires too much brain capacity for this 100 iq'd UTSA grad.
It's no wonder he will stick to petty squabbles and degenerate into a narcassistic rants about how he's 2 moves ahead of his opponent-though ironically from the outside looking in one observes a dog chasing his own tail.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:47 AM
So why did you call a real timer a timer hoax? I said "at best" allowing for other possibilities. You really don't know what that means?

Wow, that's really stupid of you. You've got to be feeling that inferiority right now.



You take yourself too seriously on a message board. I don't want to hurt your E-rep or E-esteem, but the opposite is more true. You are the bukkake spoke of every forum, and well known to be hubristic and lacking awareness. Keep thumping your chest, Special Needs, it's always a show.Wow, that post shows you are really serious about this message board and quite sensitive about your E-rep.

I'm sorry I hurt you and caused you to lash out like that.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:48 AM
Exhibit A
It seems as if he's being dense to miss your point, although he could claim he's doing it to be mocking. Yet, he's always in character, so we can discard his excuse.
Staying on topic requires too much brain capacity for this 100 iq'd UTSA grad.
It's no wonder he will stick to petty squabbles and degenerate into a narcassistic rants about how he's 2 moves ahead of his opponent-though ironically from the outside looking in one observes a dog chasing his own tail.Actually I was asking about the topic and how that post related to it.

You made it about me.

You always do.

Why is that?

Now you will claim internets victory because it's very important to you.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:50 AM
I said "at best" allowing for other possibilities. You really don't know what that means?

Wow, that's really stupid of you. You've got to be feeling that inferiority right now.


Wow, that post shoes you are really serious about this message board and quite sensitive about your E-rep.

I'm sorry I hurt you and caused you to lash out like that.

Whatever your hormonal rant was about, I can't get past the 5th grade spelling. I know it's a sports message board and grammar and spelling falls by the wayside all the time, but this is egregious.

Word of the Day For UTSA:

Egregious!

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:51 AM
Whatever your hormonal rant was about, I can't get past the 5th grade spelling. I know it's a sports message board and grammar and spelling falls by the wayside all the time, but this is egregious.

Word of the Day For UTSA:

Egregious!Hey, gtown declares internets victory over a typo!

I meant to type "shows" -- you couldn't figure that out yourself? Wow, that's not very smart of you.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:51 AM
Actually I was asking about the topic and how that post related to it.

You made it about me.

You always do.

Why is that?

Now you will claim internets victory because it's very important to you.

So you were being densely serious and not mocking that you had to ask? Wow, you're a fool.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 10:52 AM
Hey, gtown declares internets victory over a typo!

I meant to type "shows" -- you couldn't figure that out yourself? Wow, that's not very smart of you.

The burden is not on me to defend your competence and intelligence, it's on you.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:54 AM
So you were being densely serious and not mocking that you had to ask? Wow, you're a fool.It's a valid question. There were actual written threats in that instance. There weren't in the OP. You really couldn't figure that out?

I will now mock you for needing to have that explained to you.

DMX7
09-22-2015, 10:55 AM
The burden is not on me to defend your competence and intelligence, it's on you.

Context and the fact that "E" is right next to "W" on the keyboard makes it pretty obvious what the intent was...

You really need someone to spell (no pun) that out for you?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 10:56 AM
The burden is not on me to defend your competence and intelligence, it's on you.So you were neither competent enough nor intelligent enough to figure it out on your own.

I believe you and edited the post so maybe now you can understand it.

DMX7
09-22-2015, 11:18 AM
The truth is Ignignokt graduated from your run-of-the-mill public school… but that doesn’t jibe well with his perception of himself, so he comes here and desperately searches for an opportunity to use his “word of the day” to prove that at some point in his life he browsed through his AP Vocab textbook. So impressed...

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 11:36 AM
Context and the fact that "E" is right next to "W" on the keyboard makes it pretty obvious what the intent was...

You really need someone to spell (no pun) that out for you?

Where did you graduate from?

Thank you.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 11:41 AM
It's a valid question. There were actual written threats in that instance. There weren't in the OP. You really couldn't figure that out?

I will now mock you for needing to have that explained to you.

Are you stupid? He wasn't saying a bomb threat and a bomb hoax are the same. Just that they carry similar punishments, and that the whole muslim narrative is moot.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 11:42 AM
The truth is Ignignokt graduated from your run-of-the-mill public school… but that doesn’t jibe well with his perception of himself, so he comes here and desperately searches for an opportunity to use his “word of the day” to prove that at some point in his life he browsed through his AP Vocab textbook. So impressed...

UTSA grads would never sniff an AP book tbh

101A
09-22-2015, 12:03 PM
That's great.

What does that have to do with the OP?

Not the OP, specifically

This:


Where was the "bomb" part of the "hoax bomb"?

Which you asked. You seemed to insinuate that in order to have a bomb hoax, there must be a bomb. I pointed out that I have anecdotal evidence that there, in fact, does not need to be a bomb for there to be a bomb hoax.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:03 PM
Not the OP, specifically

This:



Which you asked. You seemed to insinuate that in order to have a bomb hoax, there must be a bomb. I pointed out that I have anecdotal evidence that there, in fact, does not need to be a bomb for there to be a bomb hoax.That was a written threat. What part of the pencil case clock did anyone find threatening?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:04 PM
Are you stupid? He wasn't saying a bomb threat and a bomb hoax are the same. Just that they carry similar punishments, and that the whole muslim narrative is moot.If the other kid had been arrested for just putting pieces of paper with nothing on them in the bathroom, then they would be more similar.

And lol at your defensiveness about your education.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:10 PM
Alarm clocks going off in lockers and backpacks make people nervous for some strange reason.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:11 PM
Alarm clocks going off in lockers and backpacks make people nervous for some strange reason.In that case, they should be utterly terrified at the sound of cell phones.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:17 PM
In that case, they should be utterly terrified at the sound of cell phones.

You're right -- they don't want cell phones ringing at school. There are specific policies for cell phones, at least there are at my kids' schools.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:22 PM
You're right -- they don't want cell phones ringing at school. There are specific policies for cell phones, at least there are at my kids' schools.A cell phone on silent can still trigger a bomb -- better confiscate them all, right?

Zero tolerance!

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:25 PM
A cell phone on silent can still trigger a bomb -- better confiscate them all, right?

Zero tolerance!


I think it's sound policy to not allow devices that could pass as bomb props at school.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:27 PM
I think it's sound policy to not allow devices that could pass as bomb props at school.But actual potential bomb triggers are A-OK!:tu

And how did it pass as a bomb prop? No one thought it was a bomb.

DMX7
09-22-2015, 01:30 PM
You're right -- they don't want cell phones ringing at school.

Yes, that's the reason they don't want cell phones ringing at school... because they could set off a bomb. :lol

Never mind that the actual reason is that they are a distraction to learning...

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:32 PM
Yes, that's the reason they don't want cell phones ringing at school... because they could set off a bomb. :lol

Never mind that the actual reason is that they are a distraction to learning...


I agree with you. Chump is the one pointing out that cell phones can be used as triggers.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:33 PM
I agree with you. Chump is the one pointing out that cell phones can be used as triggers.And they're going off in schools virtually every second!

What are you prepared to do about this potential threat?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:34 PM
But actual potential bomb triggers are A-OK!:tu

And how did it pass as a bomb prop? No one thought it was a bomb.


No one thinks fake bombs are real bombs.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:36 PM
No one thinks fake bombs are real bombs.So it didn't pass as a bomb prop.:tu

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:36 PM
And they're going off in schools virtually every second!

What are you prepared to do about this potential threat?


I'm not prepared to do anything. If you don't like a particular school's policies, take it up with them. But don't get mad when they actually follow their policy.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:37 PM
So it didn't pass as a bomb prop.:tu

"People at the school thought it might be a bomb, perhaps because it looks exactly like a fucking bomb." --Bill Maher

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:37 PM
I'm not prepared to do anything. If you don't like a particular school's policies, take it up with them. But don't get mad when they actually follow their policy.The actual "Arrest Students with Pencil Case Clocks" policy?

Is that posted somewhere?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:38 PM
"People at the school thought it might be a bomb, perhaps because it looks exactly like a fucking bomb." --Bill MaherBut no one thought it even might have been a bomb.

Ever.

lol quoting Maher

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:41 PM
Kid was arrested because the cops thought the school officials thought the kid thought people in the school might have thought that looked like a bomb.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:46 PM
But no one thought it even might have been a bomb.

Ever.

lol quoting Maher



People don't believe hoax bombs are real bombs. Hence the word "hoax".

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:48 PM
People don't believe hoax bombs are real bombs. Hence the word "hoax".Then why use a quote saying people thought it might have been a bomb and that it looks like a bomb, Darrin?

Do you think it looks like a bomb, Darrin?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:51 PM
Then why use a quote saying people thought it might have been a bomb and that it looks like a bomb, Darrin?

Do you think it looks like a bomb, Darrin?


Having seen the photos, I wouldn't be surprised if people said it looked like a bomb.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:52 PM
Having seen the photos, I wouldn't be surprised if people said it looked like a bomb.Do you think it looks like a bomb, Darrin?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:53 PM
Do you think it looks like a bomb, Darrin?


I know what I'm looking at, so it doesn't look like a bomb to me.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:54 PM
I know what I'm looking at, so it doesn't look like a bomb to me.But Maher said it looks like a bomb and he knew what he was looking at, so what you said doesn't make a lot of sense.

Something either looks like a bomb or it doesn't. You say it doesn't look like a bomb.

I agree it doesn't look like a bomb.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 01:57 PM
But Maher says it looks like a bomb and he knew what he was looking at.


When I say "I know what I'm looking at", I mean I am familiar with electronic devices.

Maher probably doesn't know jack squat about electronics, but he's probably seen the cheesy movie prop suitcase bombs. That's why it would look like a bomb to some people. I think you're smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 01:58 PM
When I say "I know what I'm looking at", I mean I am familiar with electronic devices.

Maher probably doesn't know jack squat about electronics, but he's probably seen the cheesy movie prop suitcase bombs. That's why it would look like a bomb to some people. I think you're smart enough to understand what I'm saying.What movie prop bomb looks like a clock in a pencil case connected to nothing?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 02:00 PM
What movie prop bomb looks like a clock in a pencil case connected to nothing?

The briefcase variety with circuits, wires, and red LED counter. You are smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:01 PM
The briefcase variety with circuits, wires, and red LED counter. You are smart enough to understand what I'm saying.This wasn't a briefcase and the clock was connected to nothing.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 02:03 PM
This wasn't a briefcase and the clock was connected to nothing.

If I only saw that photo, I wouldn't know it was a pencil case. It doesn't look like any pencil case I've ever bought.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:03 PM
The briefcase variety with circuits, wires, and red LED counter. You are smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

No he's not.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:06 PM
If I only saw that photo, I wouldn't know it was a pencil case. It doesn't look like any pencil case I've ever bought.You know the size of two prong plugs though, right?

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:07 PM
This wasn't a briefcase and the clock was connected to nothing.

His own engineering teacher told him not to show it outside of class because it looked suspicous. The fact that it wasn't connected to anything is not material. The fact that the school and police judged that it was an attempt at causing a stir through a hoax matters.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:10 PM
His own engineering teacher told him not to show it outside of class because it looked suspicous. The fact that it wasn't connected to anything is not material. The fact that the school and police judged that it was an attempt at causing a stir through a hoax matters.


Kid was arrested because the cops thought the school officials thought the kid thought people in the school might have thought that looked like a bomb.So all they had to do was ask the engineering teacher what as up?

lol

Clipper Nation
09-22-2015, 02:15 PM
Man, David just loves getting shat on. A cuck with a scat fetish... really sad stuff here.

http://i.imgur.com/mCViars.jpg

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:19 PM
CN still following; only here for his vendettas.

Sorry I made you feel so bad.

Clipper Nation
09-22-2015, 02:22 PM
CN still following; only here for his vendettas.

Sorry I made you feel so bad.
Hey, if you're into that sort of thing, so be it. Cuckoldry and scat are fucking weird in my opinion, but it's your life... you go, girl.

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:22 PM
he was suspended. the arrest was just for show.

who did it show

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:23 PM
Hey, if you're into that sort of thing, so be it. Cuckoldry and scat are fucking weird in my opinion, but it's your life... you go, girl.

yet it's constantly on your messageboard mind

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:34 PM
So all they had to do was ask the engineering teacher what as up?

lol

The cops determined it wasn't a bomb right away. Your question implies you have not read the actual story or report. Move along you idiot.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:35 PM
yet it's constantly on your messageboard mind

hello^ material conditions is to blame.

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:37 PM
Hi^ rent free etc

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:37 PM
The cops determined it wasn't a bomb right away. Your question implies you have not read the actual story or report. Move along you idiot.No, that has nothing to do with the cops' determination of whether it was a bomb. Your anger and bitterness is making you fuck up.

lol

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:37 PM
who did it show

in a well informed and read public, it would have just taught Ahmed not to take bomb hoaxes lightly. But since this thread has demonstrated that no one has read the actual facts that the police determined it wasn't a bomb and they arrested him for playing a dumb hoax, not for a bomb, unfortunately it turned in his favor.

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:38 PM
The cops determined it wasn't a bomb right away. Your question implies you have not read the actual story or report. Move along you idiot.

When you say they arrested him for show, what's your opinion on why

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:43 PM
No, that has nothing to do with the cops' determination of whether it was a bomb. Your anger and bitterness is making you fuck up.

lol

>having to demonstrate he's laughing
>discussing feelings like an effeminate cuck


So why do they have to ask the engineering teacher like you suggested if the cops immediately determined it wasn't a real bomb?

Clipper Nation
09-22-2015, 02:43 PM
yet it's constantly on your messageboard mind
Not my fault that there are two cucks who frequent this site.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 02:43 PM
It's a shame that everyone's minds are closed to new information. Though I guess it's also because people are getting bored.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:44 PM
When you say they arrested him for show, what's your opinion on why

I just stated that, moron, in the previous post.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:44 PM
>having to demonstrate he's laughingSure thing. We can tell you're just a jolly person.


So why do they have to ask the engineering teacher like you suggested if the cops immediately determined it wasn't a real bomb?To find out why he brought it to school, genius.

lolNTSU

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:45 PM
in a well informed and read public, it would have just taught Ahmed not to take bomb hoaxes lightly. But since this thread has demonstrated that no one has read the actual facts that the police determined it wasn't a bomb and they arrested him for playing a dumb hoax, not for a bomb, unfortunately it turned in his favor.

It was a simple clock that he claimed was a clock from the start. Do you know how hoaxes work?

Clipper Nation
09-22-2015, 02:46 PM
It's a shame that everyone's minds are closed to new information. Though I guess it's also because people are getting bored.
It's not out of boredom. Liberals just have an extreme need to cling to the narrative that "Americans" (people who disagree with them) are all racist and xenophobic. Without those go-to emotional responses, they might actually have to debate on their weakest points: facts, logic and the truth.

Naturally, now that this story is getting exposed as the sham it is, it's "old news" and libs "don't want to talk about it anymore."

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:46 PM
Why hasn't the engineering teacher been disciplined for allowing such a dangerous hoax bomb in the school?

Zero tolerance, remember?

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:49 PM
I just stated that, moron, in the previous post.

We were posting at the same time.

Stunning you couldn't figure that out with the extensive array of meticulous detective skills you've put on display here

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:50 PM
Sure thing. We can tell you're just a jolly person.

To find out why he brought it to school, genius.

lolNTSU

He already told the cops he brought it to show it to his engineering teacher to impress and there was no class assignment mandating to show it. They didn't believe it based on the fact that it had a PCB and it was done to look like a hollywood creation of a bomb.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:51 PM
Why hasn't the engineering teacher been disciplined for allowing such a dangerous hoax bomb in the school?

Zero tolerance, remember?

Because so far, Ahmed was open and told him the intent. He didn't do that with the English Teacher, and still the Engineering teacher was looking out for him and told him not to show it outside of his class.

Once again, you didn't read the story.

Move along idiot part deux

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:51 PM
He already told the cops he brought it to show it to his engineering teacher to impress and there was no class assignment mandating to show it. They didn't believe it based on the fact that it had a PCB and it was done to look like a hollywood creation of a bomb.lol "the fact"

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:52 PM
They didn't believe it based on the fact that it had a PCB and it was done to look like a hollywood creation of a bomb .

You sure about that, detective

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:52 PM
It was a simple clock that he claimed was a clock from the start. Do you know how hoaxes work?

He didn't tell that to the English teacher until the cops came and he then started stating it was a clock once the shit hit the fan. Read the actual story, Cuck.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:53 PM
Because so far, Ahmed was open and told him the intent. He didn't do that with the English Teacher, and still the Engineering teacher was looking out for him and told him not to show it outside of his class.

Once again, you didn't read the story.

Move along idiot part deuxDoesn't change what the clock looked like. You say that's all that matters.

Zero tolerance -- unless you think there should be tolerance.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:53 PM
You sure about that, detective

Pretty sure the way he acted in class, and that he was bullshiting about actually building a clock doesn't do him any favors.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:54 PM
lol "pretty sure"

Facts!

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:55 PM
Doesn't change what the clock looked like. You say that's all that matters.

Zero tolerance -- unless you think there should be tolerance.

that's up to the admins to decide. If you don't like it's application go protest.

Wait, why aren't you protesting? It seems to have got you bothered and menstrual.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:55 PM
lol "pretty sure"

Facts!

he asked if i was pretty sure, moron.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:56 PM
that's up to the admins to decide. If you don't like it's application go protest.

Wait, why aren't you protesting? It seems to have got you bothered and menstrual.lol projecting.

You're the one who is angry and ad homineming uncontrollably.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 02:56 PM
he asked if i was pretty sure, moron.He was mocking you, detective.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:57 PM
If a kid brings a burrito wrapped in foil with wires and a battery tied to it, for the lulz, no one can be made for sure his intentions unless he was an idiot to confess. That's just the way these school policies work. Tough tits, David.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:58 PM
He was mocking you, detective.

With his cuckoldry?

Glad you find it amusing.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 02:59 PM
lol projecting.

You're the one who is angry and ad homineming uncontrollably.

projecting, you are the one constantly projecting and projecting about projecting. Everyone knows your petty tactics David.

Blake
09-22-2015, 02:59 PM
He didn't tell that to the English teacher until the cops came and he then started stating it was a clock once the shit hit the fan. Read the actual story, Cuck.

Because the engineering teacher told him not to tell the English teacher.

Keep up, Watson.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 02:59 PM
lol projecting.

You're the one who is angry and ad homineming uncontrollably.

I've only seen on ad hominem in this thread, and it wasn't directed at any poster.

Blake
09-22-2015, 03:00 PM
Pretty sure the way he acted in class, and that he was bullshiting about actually building a clock doesn't do him any favors.

Rofl.

Blake
09-22-2015, 03:02 PM
With his cuckoldry?

Glad you find it amusing.

Dude you're hilarious but not the way you like

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:02 PM
If a kid brings a burrito wrapped in foil with wires and a battery tied to it, for the lulz, no one can be made for sure his intentions unless he was an idiot to confess. That's just the way these school policies work. Tough tits, David.Yes, much like everything you do, this policy is feelings-based, David.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:02 PM
Because the engineering teacher told him not to tell the English teacher.

Keep up, Watson.

Only the english teacher? Like he's a prophet and figured it was going down in a specific manner?

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:03 PM
Yes, much like everything you do, this policy is feelings-based, David.

Don't punish a kid unless he brings a real bomb...yeah that's a stupid policy, it would probably too late by then.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:03 PM
Only the english teacher? Like he's a prophet and figured it was going down in a specific manner?The way people are portraying Ahmed's devious plot to destroy America, his powers must be those of a prophet.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:04 PM
Dude you're hilarious but not the way you like

Irony abounds in that statement, Cucky.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:05 PM
Don't punish a kid unless he brings a real bomb...yeah that's a stupid policy, it would probably too late by then.Because kids bring bombs to school every day -- and show them in every class.

Makes sense, detective.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:05 PM
The way people are portraying Ahmed's devious plot to destroy America, his powers must be those of a prophet.

Your example is idiotic seeing how a prophet foretells things, not analyizes after the fact you moron. Has anyone foretold a future event here?

Keep displaying lack of vocab.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:06 PM
a prophet foretells things, not analyizes after the fact you moron.The conspiracy theory you are pushing requires that Ahmed foretold how all parties would react.

So yeah, you think he's a prophet.

lol vocab

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:07 PM
Because kids bring bombs to school every day -- and show them in every class.

Makes sense, detective.

Liberal snark with no aim. Amateur, not impressed at all.

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:08 PM
The conspiracy theory you are pushing requires that Ahmed foretold how all parties would react.

So yeah, you think he's a prophet.

I'm sure there are stronger points you could use to fall back on than this piece of shit reaching and reasoning of an argument.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:08 PM
Liberal snark with no aim. Amateur, not impressed at all.What was your point of saying "too late."

And CROFL at your accusing anyone else of snark.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:09 PM
I'm sure there are stronger points you could use to fall back on than this piece of shit reaching and reasoning of an argument.Hey, it's your conspiracy theory -- I'm just pointing out how it has to work.

Why are you getting so angry about all this? Tough day at school?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 03:23 PM
The way people are portraying Ahmed's devious plot to destroy America, his powers must be those of a prophet.

Is that how people are portraying it? As a devious plot to destroy America? Lol

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 03:29 PM
It's a shame that everyone's minds are closed to new information. Though I guess it's also because people are getting bored.


Yep

Ignignokt
09-22-2015, 03:31 PM
Hey, it's your conspiracy theory -- I'm just pointing out how it has to work.

Why are you getting so angry about all this? Tough day at school?

Keep sputtering Cuckvid

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:31 PM
Keep sputtering CuckvidThat was pretty clear. Did you not understand it somehow?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:32 PM
YepWhat new information is supposed to be changing my mind here?

A Bill Maher video?

IceColdBrewski
09-22-2015, 03:44 PM
The whole thing reeks of shenanigans, and has for several days now. Political opportunism sure does make people look stupid.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 03:45 PM
What new information is supposed to be changing my mind here?

A Bill Maher video?


Photo of his clock
Video showing the clock has not "built"
Ahmed's own behavior
Yes, the Bill Maher video (especially Mark Cuban part about sister giving him answers)
Activist family
Sister was also suspended for bomb threat that she denies

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 03:51 PM
Photo of his clock
Video showing the clock has not "built"
Ahmed's own behavior
Yes, the Bill Maher video (especially Mark Cuban part about sister giving him answers)
Activist family
Sister was also suspended for bomb threat that she deniesSo which devious sister are you saying was suspended?

Blake
09-22-2015, 03:55 PM
Irony abounds in that statement, Cucky.

eh, you're laughing at my personal life and I'm laughing at your lousy CSI skills. Different strokes i guess

Blake
09-22-2015, 03:58 PM
It's a shame that everyone's minds are closed to new information. Though I guess it's also because people are getting bored.

Give us a status update then.

Spurminator
09-22-2015, 03:59 PM
The fact that his family is capitalizing on the situation doesn't prove that the incident was a set up from the beginning. They're taking advantage of a situation not unlike hundreds and hundreds of people before them on both sides of the political spectrum, and as long as you guys keep them in the news cycle by endlessly dissecting the engineering merits of his little clock, the more they gain.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:14 PM
Sister was also suspended for bomb threat that she denies


So which devious sister are you saying was suspended?

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 04:22 PM
So which devious sister are you saying was suspended?

Eyman

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/17/man-i-went-viral-my-day-with-ahmed-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.html

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:26 PM
Eyman

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/17/man-i-went-viral-my-day-with-ahmed-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.htmlSo her suspension five or six years ago means he's lying now?

These diabolical teens have been planning this for years!

Jesus, Darrin -- you're cracking me up.

DarrinS
09-22-2015, 04:32 PM
So her suspension five or six years ago means he's lying now?

These diabolical teens have been planning this for years!

Jesus, Darrin -- you're cracking me up.


Strange that it happened to both of them from one family. Does this happen to most Muslim families in Irving? I'm sure most Muslim fathers in Irving debate Koran-burning preachers and run for president of Sudan, too. The father is a major attention whore and it appears that sweet Ahmed is enjoying his 15 minutes.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 04:38 PM
Give us a status update then.

Essentially, people are treating the initial story like gospel and acting like any following information has to be scrutinized. It came out that the kid himself thought the clocked looked suspicious and that he repeatedly took it out in class despite being told by multiple authority figures to keep it put up and then wouldn't explain why he kept doing that even when it wasn't appropriate. That doesn't justify the police interrogating him without his parents or a lawyer, just to make sure Chump sees that I have said this once again. But it cuts off the "Innoence Genius" label the kid got. At best, he's a kid who was overly excited about his work and couldn't respect boundaries enough to stop bragging about it. At worst, he's a subversive asshole who was deliberately playing off racial bias for kicks. Though, I guess the worst would also include goading the government into making a mistake and profiting, though that seems a little far-fetched.

Succinctly: Police=In the wrong; Kid=Poor martyr for social justice.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:38 PM
Strange that it happened to both of them from one family. Does this happen to most Muslim families in Irving? I don't know, Darrin -- do you?


I'm sure most Muslim fathers in Irving debate Koran-burning preachers and run for president of Sudan, too. The father is a major attention whore and it appears that sweet Ahmed is enjoying his 15 minutes.You're certainly giving them all more than your share of attention.

:cryThose kids planned this for years!:cry

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:39 PM
Essentially, people are treating the initial story like gospel and acting like any following information has to be scrutinized. It came out that the kid himself thought the clocked looked suspicious and that he repeatedly took it out in class despite being told by multiple authority figures to keep it put up and then wouldn't explain why he kept doing that even when it wasn't appropriate. That doesn't justify the police interrogating him without his parents or a lawyer, just to make sure Chump sees that I have said this once again. But it cuts off the "Innoence Genius" label the kid got. At best, he's a kid who was overly excited about his work and couldn't respect boundaries enough to stop bragging about it. At worst, he's a subversive asshole who was deliberately playing off racial bias for kicks. Though, I guess the worst would also include goading the government into making a mistake and profiting, though that seems a little far-fetched.

Succinctly: Police=In the wrong; Kid=Poor martyr for social justice.School officials and cops lost their shit.

They shouldn't have.

That's pretty succinct.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 04:40 PM
The fact that his family is capitalizing on the situation doesn't prove that the incident was a set up from the beginning. They're taking advantage of a situation not unlike hundreds and hundreds of people before them on both sides of the political spectrum, and as long as you guys keep them in the news cycle by endlessly dissecting the engineering merits of his little clock, the more they gain.

You're right. I know if I were wrongfully arrested and/or beaten by the police, I'd be suing their asses off. It's just good business, and if the kid is 100-percent in the right, it's important to expose discrimination when it occurs.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 04:42 PM
School officials and cops lost their shit.

They shouldn't have.

That's pretty succinct.

It is succinct. I'll give you that. School should have just taken the thing away and told him he could have it back when he left for the day. Police interrogated him illegally. None of that prevents the kid from not being innocent, though.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:45 PM
It is succinct. I'll give you that. School should have just taken the thing away and told him he could have it back when he left for the day. Police interrogated him illegally. None of that prevents the kid from not being innocent, though.Nothing proves him to be guilty of anything either.

Every argument here is based on suspicion and innuendo. Whether those are rooted in Islamophobia is up for debate, but people are sure digging for every possible angle to make it a conspiracy.

CitizenDwayne
09-22-2015, 04:50 PM
:lol Islamophobia? So people aren't allowed to question some obviously suspicious aspects of this case without being bigots?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 04:53 PM
:lol Islamophobia? So people aren't allowed to question some obviously suspicious aspects of this case without being bigots?I said it's up for debate. I'm impressed at how dogged detectives like Darrin are in pursuing this case, for example. If he can be suspicious of their motives, why can't others be suspicious of his?

CitizenDwayne
09-22-2015, 05:02 PM
I said it's up for debate. I'm impressed at how dogged detectives like Darrin are in pursuing this case, for example. If he can be suspicious of their motives, why can't others be suspicious of his?

Fair enough

Chinook
09-22-2015, 05:58 PM
Nothing proves him to be guilty of anything either.

Every argument here is based on suspicion and innuendo. Whether those are rooted in Islamophobia is up for debate, but people are sure digging for every possible angle to make it a conspiracy.

Not really. You're just painting it that way because your mind is closed to new information. You're locked into your interpretation and giving it null status. The truth is, you don't know what the truth is, so your assumptions don't have an extra power over anyone else's. It's the investigation's job to turn up the truth, not convince you you're wrong.

If he sues, his side is going to have show the school was wrong (the police being wrong is obvious, so no reason to toss that into the debate). His story absolutely deserves to be vetted. And all these things you keep trying to lump into the "conspiracy" bucket will definitely be used against him, and a good judge isn't going to elevate a news article to "true until proven otherwise" status.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 06:02 PM
Not really. You're just painting it that way because your mind is closed to new information. You're locked into your interpretation and giving it null status. The truth is, you don't know what the truth is, so your assumptions don't have an extra power over anyone else's, it's the investigation's job to turn up the truth, not convince you you're wrong.

If he sues, his side is going to have show the school was wrong (the police being wrong is obvious, so no reason to toss that into the debate). His story absolutely deserves to be vetted. And all these things you keep trying to lump into the "conspiracy" bucket will definitely be used against him, and a good judge isn't going to elevate a new article to "true until proven otherwise" status.You're locked into your interpretation, which is based on suspicion and innuendo. i don't see why you think your suspicion and innuendo is better than anyone else's interpretation.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 06:09 PM
You're locked into your interpretation, which is based on suspicion and innuendo. i don't see why you think your suspicion and innuendo is better than anyone else's interpretation.

You're trying to turn my argument against me, but you're doing a poor job at it. My global view on this topic is that more investigation is needed. If you think that that view isn't ironclad, then guess what? More investigation is needed. I have no issue with not thinking the world is black and white. You seem unable to accept that there are varying degrees of guilt in any incident and that the smart thing to do is to keep an open mind.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 06:16 PM
You're trying to turn my argument against me, but you're doing a poor job at it. My global view on this topic is that more investigation is needed. If you think that that view isn't ironclad, then guess what? More investigation is needed. I have no issue with not thinking the world is black and white. You seem unable to accept that there are varying degrees of guilt in any incident and that the smart thing to do is to keep an open mind.You're locked into your interpretation and pretending you aren't.

It's OK to be locked into an interpretation.

What more needs to be investigated? Who will do the investigating? The interpretation you are locked into is that the family conspired to perpetuate a bomb threat. If the police don't think this is the case, what is supposed to happen here?

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 06:25 PM
RumpHumper fancies himself an explosives expert.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 06:31 PM
RumpHumper fancies himself an explosives expert.Flabbs is only here to talk about me.

And there have been no explosives anywhere in this discussion except for the pictures of backpacks I posted.

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 06:36 PM
Flabbs is only here to talk about me.
:rollin That's actually a good one, Rumpy.
Might not be intentional but....

I've been following the reasoning.
Many think it might have had a chance, small or not of being a device.
14 year old was asked 5 times plus to put it away, he wouldn't.
Teacher decides to err on the side of caution.

Cops may not have needed to use cuffs, hence he and you have a sore vag. Some free Vagasil is in order.
Interogated without a lawyer, meh alright the little f was not charged.

You otoh have appointed yourself as explosives expert and claim that from minute one there was NO way it could have been a device.

:lol

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 06:38 PM
:rollin That's actually a good one, Rumpy.
Might not be intentional but....

I've been following the reasoning.
Many think it might have had a chance, small or not of being a device.
14 year old was asked 5 times plus to put it away, he wouldn't.
Teacher decides to err on the side of caution.

Cops may not have needed to use cuffs, hence he and you have a sore vag. Some free Vagasil is in order.
Interogated without a lawyer, meh alright the little f was not charged.

You otoh have appointed yourself as explosives expert and claim that from minute one there was NO way it could have been a device.

:lolNo one involved ever thought it was a bomb, Flabbs.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 06:40 PM
And I'm only an expert inasmuch as I know that for a bomb to explode, there needs to be....an explosive.

What could possibly be explosive in the picture of "the device"?

Blake
09-22-2015, 06:45 PM
Lol conspiracy theorists are fun

Chinook
09-22-2015, 06:59 PM
What more needs to be investigated? Who will do the investigating? The interpretation you are locked into is that the family conspired to perpetuate a bomb threat. If the police don't think this is the case, what is supposed to happen here?

The first part was you being Chump. I won't play, as that's stupid. For this part, you better believe if he sues the school, teams from both sides are going to be investigating things. That's just what happens if there's a trial. Anyway, if he doesn't sue, then it means it goes down in the record books that the school didn't do anything egregious. In that case, despite what you say, your view would NOT be the null. It would be an unproven assertion supported only by hearsay that never got vetted by the judicial system.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 07:01 PM
The first part was you being Chump. I won't play, as that's stupid. For this part, you better believe if he sues the school, teams from both sides are going to be investigating things. That's just what happens if there's a trial. Anyway, if he doesn't sue, then it means it goes down in the record books that the school didn't do anything egregious. In that case, despite what you say, your view would NOT be the null. It would be an unproven assertion supported only by hearsay that never got vetted by the judicial system.All your assertions are unproved yet you act as though they are.

What record books are you talking about?

Guinness?

Chinook
09-22-2015, 07:12 PM
All your assertions are unproved yet you act as though they are.

What record books are you talking about?

Guinness?

Again, not going to play that game.

If this is going to be the timbre of this conversation, I'll see myself out.

This is what we're looking at: The only thing that's happened so far is that people not involved with the situation have taken sides. Nothing definitive has come up (insert obligatory police being wrong statement). The null is that nothing interesting happened -- in this case meaning that the school did not act out of line (particularly that they did not discriminate against him). It has to be demonstrated that they are at fault, as the plaintiff has the burden of proof. The defendant doesn't have to prove innocence. The idea that you have to be convinced you were wrong is silly, as the judge/jury is supposed to have the opposite philosophy.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 07:17 PM
Again, not going to play that game.

If this is going to be the timbre of this conversation, I'll see myself out.

This is what we're looking at: The only thing that's happened so far is that people not involved with the situation have taken sides. Nothing definitive has come up (insert obligatory police being wrong statement). The null is that nothing interesting happened -- in this case meaning that the school did not act out of line (particularly that they did not discriminate against him). It has to be demonstrated that they are at fault, as the plaintiff has the burden of proof. The defendant doesn't have to prove innocence. The idea that you have to be convinced you were wrong is silly, as the judge/jury is supposed to have the opposite philosophy.So there are no record books?

Seriously, you think just if there is no final legal decision, nothing wrong happened?

That's like saying Nixon never did anything wrong because he was never brought up on charges.

It's in the record books.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 07:29 PM
So there are no record books?

Seriously, you think just if there is no final legal decision, nothing wrong happened?

That's like saying Nixon never did anything wrong because he was never brought up on charges.

It's in the record books.

Didn't Nixon confess? Was Frost | Nixon lying?

Anyway, the "record books" is just a phrase. But I am saying that as of right now, everything is hearsay. When that's the case, the null is that the school didn't do anything egregiously wrong. There hasn't been a comprehensive investigation to determine culpability. Without that, it's literally just people's words against others'. It defaults to the negative in that case.

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 07:32 PM
Didn't Nixon confess? Was Frost | Nixon lying?

Anyway, the "record books" is just a phrase. But I am saying that as of right now, everything is hearsay. When that's the case, the null is that the school didn't do anything egregiously wrong. There hasn't been a comprehensive investigation to determine culpability. Without that, it's literally just people's words against others'. It defaults to the negative in that case.According to whom?

Again, what record book are you talking about?

You're making up a bunch of rules that don't exist.

Chinook
09-22-2015, 07:45 PM
According to whom?

Again, what record book are you talking about?

You're making up a bunch of rules that don't exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/one+for+the+books

Anything else?

Blake
09-22-2015, 08:04 PM
It's a shame that everyone's minds are closed to new information. Though I guess it's also because people are getting bored.




This is what we're looking at: The only thing that's happened so far is that people not involved with the situation have taken sides. Nothing definitive has come up (insert obligatory police being wrong statement). The null is that nothing interesting happened -- in this case meaning that the school did not act out of line (particularly that they did not discriminate against him). It has to be demonstrated that they are at fault, as the plaintiff has the burden of proof. The defendant doesn't have to prove innocence. The idea that you have to be convinced you were wrong is silly, as the judge/jury is supposed to have the opposite philosophy.

So there's no new information. Let me know if you get some because I'm open to it, tbh

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 08:11 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/one+for+the+books

Anything else?So there is no book but Nixon did nothing wrong because the burden of proof was not met in a court of law.

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 08:32 PM
No one involved ever thought it was a bomb, Flabbs.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?
OP: “She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 08:36 PM
No one involved ever thought it was a bomb, Flabbs.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?
"14-YEAR-OLD MUSLIM BOY ARRESTED FOR MAKING CLOCK MISTAKEN FOR BOMB"
http://abc7news.com/news/muslim-boy-arrested-for-making-clock-mistaken-for-bomb/987340/

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 08:36 PM
OP: “She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.Fabbs, even you can tell there is a difference between thinking something looks like a bomb and thinking something is a bomb.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 08:37 PM
"14-YEAR-OLD MUSLIM BOY ARRESTED FOR MAKING CLOCK MISTAKEN FOR BOMB"
http://abc7news.com/news/muslim-boy-arrested-for-making-clock-mistaken-for-bomb/987340/If the teacher thought it was a bomb, why wasn't the entire school evacuated?

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 09:05 PM
Fabbs, even you can tell there is a difference between thinking something looks like a bomb and thinking something is a bomb.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?
I'm not an explosives expert.

Fabbs
09-22-2015, 09:07 PM
If the teacher thought it was a bomb, why wasn't the entire school evacuated?
From what i have read it was cumulative.
After kid kept being evasive she thought it might be a bomb.
Decided to use caution and turn it over to those who knew more.
She did not claim to be an explosives expert.

Have any bombs used by any one any where ever looked like that?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 09:07 PM
I'm not an explosives expert.Neither was anyone involved.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 09:09 PM
From what i have read it was cumulative.
After kid kept being evasive she thought it might be a bomb.
Decided to use caution and turn it over to those who knew more.
She did not claim to be an explosives expert.Using caution would mean evacuating the school.

If she thought it was a bomb, why didn't she even evacuate the room?


Have any bombs used by any one any where ever looked like that?None that I know of tbh.

Trill Clinton
09-22-2015, 09:14 PM
Have any bombs used by any one any where ever looked like that?


yea in james bond movies from the 70's:lol

ChumpDumper
09-22-2015, 09:38 PM
yea in james bond movies from the 70's:lolYeah, I always wondered why the bad guys wanted the good guys to know exactly how much time they had to diffuse a bomb. You'd figure criminal masterminds would have a way to turn off the display once they started the timer.

TheSanityAnnex
09-22-2015, 11:01 PM
Anyone who believes Ahmed just brought that sorry excuse of an "invention" to school to show his teacher is a fucking moron.

Koolaid_Man
09-23-2015, 11:00 AM
Anyone who believes Ahmed just brought that sorry excuse of an "invention" to school to show his teacher is a fucking moron.


I stayed out of this one...but i lean your side on this one....his dad is a known rabble rouser....Mark Cuban even said on Bill Mahers recent HBO show that as he talked to Ahmed his sisters were in the background coaching him on what to say and what not to say.

I think the school was wrong to arrest him and suspend him when they knew it wasn't a bomb and he repeatedly told them so....the problem is they saw this as a possible dry run....not saying that's what it was but the reality is anyone is capable of anything it's a philosophy the Israelis live by....it's better to err on the side of caution. He knew if nothing else that it would at least cause suspicion the problem is the educators are just country hicks that didn't know how to handle his little cat and mouse coy game....

Sure it wasn't a bomb and was just capacitors and circuitry but it could have been used a signal point to an improvised device located somewhere else in the building triggered by a cell phone...that's my guess...

So when people say it was nothing you never really know if it was just a device that was part of a larger remote device serving as a pass through signal....that's worst case assumptions..

I think he knew there would be some questions about it..that's why he just happened to be wearing a NASA t shirt that day...to help difuse the situation by pointing to his shirt. Once he showed the science teacher in question that should have been the end of it.. seems like he was shopping a negative response until he found one....WTF was he showing that shit to an English teacher for? Leave that shit in your science class....he was asking for trouble in my view....

I know this goes against my homies view but he's old enough to know better....reminds me of that I hate niggas sign Bruce Willis was wearing in the ghetto in that Die Hard movie. :lol

Blake
09-23-2015, 11:08 AM
Have any bombs used by any one any where ever looked like that?

Clock is a bit different but similar

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Koolaid_Man
09-23-2015, 11:10 AM
Too many kids have died in schools recently so offending one is not a big concern if mine. What happened to Ahmed is different from general profiling of people....he brought a questionable device to school at a time when Muslims are being widely discussed. Not saying it's right but he should have used better judgement....let him try that shit in Isreal or in Saudi and he would have been beaten or thrown in jail....he's lucky to be in the US pulling stunts like that..everyone is on high alert...

Koolaid_Man
09-23-2015, 11:13 AM
What if he had a shirt on with the Supreme Ayatollah of Iran on the front...instead of NASA....would that change your opinion of his motive....that's why I think it was sort of a stunt...I dunno I could be wrong

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 11:16 AM
What if he had a shirt on with the Supreme Ayatollah of Iran on the front...instead of NASA....would that change your opinion of his motive....that's why I think it was sort of a stunt...I dunno I could be wrongThen I would know he's trolling because he is obviously Sunni.

Koolaid_Man
09-23-2015, 11:24 AM
Then I would know he's trolling because he is obviously Sunni.

Give the teachers a break man...no one here cares to know all those tribal differences for the most part....it could be all innocent but I also can see how some would view it as an attention grabbing stunt....

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 11:44 AM
None that I know of tbh.
And your knowledge in explosives for a fact is not extensive.
So conclusion is, at the time of Ahmed classroom showing(s) you and 99.99 of the Ahmed blowers could not have said for a fact it was not a bomb.

Here's one guys opinion:

James Hanson, a former Army Special Forces veteran, wrote the following at Townhall.com concerning Ahmed Mohamed’s device:

… I have built and taught classes on improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and the clock [Ahmed Mohamed] brought to school is a dead ringer for the trigger used on many of these homemade bombs.

Koolaid_Man
09-23-2015, 11:48 AM
Someone get in here and rescue me....Im sandwiched in between cum dumpster and Fapps....:lol

Blake
09-23-2015, 11:57 AM
And your knowledge in explosives for a fact is not extensive.
So conclusion is, at the time of Ahmed classroom showing(s) you and 99.99 of the Ahmed blowers could not have said for a fact it was not a bomb.

Here's one guys opinion:

James Hanson, a former Army Special Forces veteran, wrote the following at Townhall.com concerning Ahmed Mohamed’s device:

… I have built and taught classes on improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and the clock [Ahmed Mohamed] brought to school is a dead ringer for the trigger used on many of these homemade bombs.

So what do you think should be done at this point to Ahmed

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 12:14 PM
And your knowledge in explosives for a fact is not extensive.
So conclusion is, at the time of Ahmed classroom showing(s) you and 99.99 of the Ahmed blowers could not have said for a fact it was not a bomb.

Here's one guys opinion:

James Hanson, a former Army Special Forces veteran, wrote the following at Townhall.com concerning Ahmed Mohamed’s device:

… I have built and taught classes on improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and the clock [Ahmed Mohamed] brought to school is a dead ringer for the trigger used on many of these homemade bombs.Yeah.

A trigger is not a bomb.

Genius.

You know what also is a dead ringer for a bomb trigger?

A cell phone.

Zero tolerance!

Does it look like a bomb to you, Fabbs?

Just answer the question.

Ignignokt
09-23-2015, 12:48 PM
Yeah.

A trigger is not a bomb.

Genius.

You know what also is a dead ringer for a bomb trigger?

A cell phone.

Zero tolerance!

Does it look like a bomb to you, Fabbs?

Just answer the question.

Translation: Goalpost shifted. I need proof that a real bomb was made before I stop my liberal white cucking for arabs.

MetaTranslation: Thssstaaaahhhhpp!

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 12:55 PM
Translation: Goalpost shifted. I need proof that a real bomb was made before I stop my liberal white cucking for arabs.

MetaTranslation: Thssstaaaahhhhpp!No, I asked Fabbs if it looked like a bomb quite plainly. I did not ask what someone else thought.

Does it look like a bomb to you, gtown?

It doesn't look like a bomb to me. I already said it isn't connected to anything that looks explosive. What part of that do you not understand?

Is your life necessary?

spurraider21
09-23-2015, 05:09 PM
So there is no book but Nixon did nothing wrong because the burden of proof was not met in a court of law.
Nixon confessed.

If the school confesses wrongdoing and discrimination, they'll be in the same boat.

inb4 you ask me "what boat"

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 05:12 PM
Nixon confessed.

If the school confesses wrongdoing and discrimination, they'll be in the same boat.

inb4 you ask me "what boat"Nixon was in no boat at all. He was permanently lounging on the beach after being pardoned.

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 05:18 PM
So what do you think should be done at this point to Ahmed
At this point as far as his celebrity type status, being flown to White House, flown to UN I'm like whatever.
If it helps him get a better education so be it.

As far as his lawsuit, i hope it gets shoved right up his ass along with whatever greedy lawyer takes it.
I suspect white Mom is who is behind a lot of this.
The dad in the photo looks pretty chill.

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 05:32 PM
Translation: Goalpost shifted. I need proof that a real bomb was made before I stop my liberal white cucking for arabs.

MetaTranslation: Thssstaaaahhhhpp!
This.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 05:33 PM
This.Does it look like a bomb to you, Fabbs?

Clipper Nation
09-23-2015, 05:52 PM
Translation: Goalpost shifted. I need proof that a real bomb was made before I stop my liberal white cucking for arabs.

MetaTranslation: Thssstaaaahhhhpp!

Clipper Nation
09-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Does it look like a bomb to you, Fabbs?

http://i.imgur.com/5aksgwT.jpg

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 06:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5aksgwT.jpgSure between the two I would say the one on the right looks like a bomb if there is something that looks like it can explode in that case.

Does the one on the left look like a bomb to you?

Clipper Nation
09-23-2015, 06:54 PM
Sure between the two I would say the one on the right looks like a bomb if there is something that looks like it can explode in that case.

Does the one on the left look like a bomb to you?
You look like a cuck, tbh.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 06:55 PM
You look like a cuck, tbh.You've never seen me.

Does the device on the left look like a bomb to you?

It's a simple question.

Blake
09-23-2015, 07:01 PM
As far as his lawsuit, i hope it gets shoved right up his ass along with whatever greedy lawyer takes it.

I'm not sure what the lawsuit will be, but I hope the cops get fucked over for arresting him and such shitty handling of the situation.


I suspect white Mom is who is behind a lot of this.

Of course you do

Blake
09-23-2015, 07:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5aksgwT.jpg

There's a giant red number display in the image on the left. Where's the clock display for the one on the right?

Spurminator
09-23-2015, 07:19 PM
:lol Could that photo be any lower resolution?

:lol Memes

:lol Conservatives still obsessed with this story.

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:22 PM
http://youtu.be/_75pScWQ06Y

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 07:23 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/Gg79HtFxkJgyc/giphy.gif

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:25 PM
http://youtu.be/A4KOW92fbSM

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 07:26 PM
The hell is an mrctv?

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:26 PM
energizer bunny meme

How many posts do you have in this thread?

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:27 PM
The hell is an mrctv?

Do you think those are actors?

Spurminator
09-23-2015, 07:27 PM
The man on the street interview is the most air-tight form of journalism.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 07:27 PM
How many posts do you have in this thread?I'm not the one complaining about the attention given to this kid, genius.

That would be you.

Continue giving him your undivided attention and complaining about all the attention he is getting.

lol

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 07:28 PM
Do you think those are actors?That wasn't my question.

Do you know what an mrctv is, Darrin -- or did you just post it as soon as you got the email link?

IceColdBrewski
09-23-2015, 07:42 PM
:lol Conservatives still obsessed with this story.


:lol Libs hoping this story goes away now that it's starting to look like they got played.

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:42 PM
That wasn't my question.

Do you know what an mrctv is, Darrin -- or did you just post it as soon as you got the email link?

You can Google is you want to know what mrctv is.

Why do you think I was emailed the video?

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 07:44 PM
You can Google is you want to know what mrctv is.So you don't know what it is.

Great.


Why do you think I was emailed the video?You searched it out?

lol even better

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 07:55 PM
So you don't know what it is.

Great.



No, I know who they are.





You searched it out?

lol even better


Why do you care what I search for?

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 07:58 PM
Continue giving him your undivided attention
lol
Says RumpHumper with 100 posts on him.

lol

Spurminator
09-23-2015, 08:07 PM
:lol Libs hoping this story goes away now that it's starting to look like they got played.

Sorry man, all of this obsessive dissection is happening strictly in the conservative bubble. For libs and most other people, it HAS gone away. Kid hasn't trended since day 1.

And I'm not sure how exactly anyone got "played." The fact remains that a kid got arrested and suspended over a clock in a pencil case that (1) obviously wasn't a bomb, and (2) obviously wasn't being used in a bomb threat.

If anyone got played it those of you who continue to be butthurt a week later just because he got some kudos from famous people.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 08:08 PM
No, I know who they are. Even better.


Why do you care what I search for?You entertain me. Knowing you searched for it is entertaining. You've put in a lot of work the past few days.


Says RumpHumper with 100 posts on him.

lolI'm not the one complaining about the attention he is getting.

Have you decided whether his device looks like a bomb yet or are you just afraid to answer?

I predict you will do everything you can not to answer that simple question.

Blake
09-23-2015, 08:11 PM
:lol Libs hoping this story goes away now that it's starting to look like they got played.

He hasn't been to the white house yet, has he?

DarrinS
09-23-2015, 08:24 PM
http://youtu.be/_75pScWQ06Y

Kid straight up lies at 0:34 into this video. It wasn't made from scrap and put together.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2015, 08:28 PM
Let me know what happens next. You're doing the Lord's work, Darrin!