14 Year Old Muslim Arrested For Bringin A Clock To School

[apalisoc_9]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO_9UsXUYAA33sT.jpg

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...ake-a-bomb.ece


dude brought in his home made clock to show to his engineering teacher and he was arrested because they thought he had brought a bomb. bigotry at its finest. smh.

edit: looks like his engineering teacher knew it was a clock it was his sloot english teacher who thought it was a bomb, "He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

From another sports forum..Originally posted at bb.com

M>S mum got a little bit scared

[mouse]

Was it an ALArm. clock?

[Re-Animator]

Was it an ALArm. clock?

http://media3.giphy.com/media/P5v6IxxhSBFTO/giphy.gif

[mouse]

Slomo's on fire tonight :lmao

FYOmOLbyz8o

[Blake]

What are they charging him with?

[mouse]

Snoozing in class.

[mouse]

What are they charging him with?

And will he do any time?

[MultiTroll]

:cry He's being persecuted :cry

Yet if it was a bomb the teacher would be crucified for not acting.
Look, she erred on the side of caution.
He's free to go and has been released.
STFU.

[ColinB]

So the teacher thought it was a bomb and just kept it sitting around? Lol.

[RD2191]

Lol. That teacher is an ignorant piece of shit.

[MultiTroll]

So the teacher thought it was a bomb and just kept it sitting around? Lol.
She should have asked you to carry it out.

[Blake]

:cry He's being persecuted :cry

Yet if it was a bomb the teacher would be crucified for not acting.
Look, she erred on the side of caution.
He's free to go and has been released.
STFU.

Did the cops err on the side of caution by arresting him?

what are the cops going to charge him with?

[ColinB]

She should have asked you to carry it out.

Sorry, I do not understand. I do not live in Dallas.

[Blake]

Lolsmh so far it looks like it's just Texas Bible belt doing what they do. Hopefully for their sake there's more to this story.

[Buddy Mignon]

Kid had dreams of working for NASA. Now he'll be recruited by ISIS.

[Avante]

I saw a pit bull looking at me across the street the other day as I went to the mail box. A pit bull running the streets, scarey.

Now this could be a sweetheart of a dog, but.......it was a pit bull.

Muslims have brought it all on themselves, they have shown to be a primitive thinking bunch where violence plays a major role in their religion.

No problem with this.

[Pelicans78]

I saw a pit bull looking at me across the street the other day as I went to the mail box. A pit bull running the streets, scarey.

Now this could be a sweetheart of a dog, but.......it was a pit bull.

Muslims have brought it all on themselves, they have shown to be a primitive thinking bunch where violence plays a major role in their religion.

No problem with this.

Coming from someone who committed statutory rape.

[MultiTroll]

Did the cops err on the side of caution by arresting him?

what are the cops going to charge him with?
The link just goes to the directory of the Dallas Morning News.
I'm not scrolling thru all that to find the article.

From the posted cliffnotes the kid simply went to the office and got questioned. Didn't say anything about being arrested so i did not know.

Moving fwd what was he arrested for and have all charges since been dropped?

[Spurminator]

From the posted cliffnotes the kid simply went to the office and got questioned.

In the amount of time it took you to type this post you could have Googled the story and seen he was handcuffed and taken to juvenile detention.

[Avante]

Coming from someone who committed statutory rape.

Just how stupid are you guy? So tell me stupid just what was the age of consent over there? The...LEGAL..age?

Well? Ya have no clue to ya faggot?

I've never in my life seen so many dummies with no clue in one place before, Texas?

[MultiTroll]

In the amount of time it took you to type this post you could have Googled the story and seen he was handcuffed and taken to juvenile detention.
I saw that much faster by looking at the pic.
Nothing about being arrested (and implied taken to the po po office and booked) like Blakeoid wrote.

[Pelicans78]

Just how stupid are you guy? So tell me stupid just what was the age of consent over there? The...LEGAL..age?

Well? Ya have no clue to ya faggot?

Doesn't matter. You actively took advantage of a child. You're part of the problem. Sick fucker.

[MultiTroll]

Originally Posted by Pelicans78 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8190828#post8190828)
Coming from someone who committed statutory rape.


Just how stupid are you guy? So tell me stupid just what was the age of consent over there? The...LEGAL..age?

Well? Ya have no clue to ya faggot?

I've never in my life seen so many dummies with no clue in one place before, Texas?
Couple more for Septs Rim Job Contest award.
Please consider giving this tired old schtik up. Both sides.

[Trill Clinton]

smh

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[Avante]

Doesn't matter. You actively took advantage of a child. You're part of the problem. Sick fucker.

Stupid, ya walk in a bar over there, ok stupid? You have no idea or care about the age of working bar girls ok ya dumb fuck? It was a total non factor, ok stupid?

What an idiot, wow~~~~~~~

[hater]

:lmao did chief Wiggum conduct the interrogation?? :lmao

[Blake]

I saw that much faster by looking at the pic.

right, the picture with the kid in police handcuffs.



Nothing about being arrested (and implied taken to the po po office and booked) like Blakeoid wrote.

You're such a retard. :lol Literally a five second google search shows every other article on the subject has the word "arrested" in the title.

One of the articles today shows the police took him to juvey, got him fingerprinted, released him to parents but filed no charges.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by Pelicans78 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8190828#post8190828)
Coming from someone who committed statutory rape.


Couple more for Septs Rim Job Contest award.
Please consider giving this tired old schtik up. Both sides.

Mind your own business, got it?

[lefty]

:lmao

[MultiTroll]

Mind your own business, got it?
Oh i have am and will.
Your group is right in there for the Rimmy Award. :rolleyes

BTW is it the same 'baiter(s)-spammers who hide behind the "Avante You're a Perv" and your group Avante profile?
(Won't affect your Rimmy Award chances)

[MultiTroll]

smh
Gee thanks for the Fake Black Guy article.

[DisAsTerBot]

fabbs, why is it that you accuse everyone of being a troll with multiple profiles while you yourself have multiple profiles and make it a point to "troll the trolls"

seems really counter productive tbh

[Avante]

Little people.

I was in the US Navy, ok? We'd hit these ports for R&R, ok? Young guys want some drinks some pussy and some fun, ok?

Now if you dumb fucks don't get that why am I not surprised? And we both know you would have done the exact same thing.

So many idiots here, wow!

[MultiTroll]

In the amount of time it took you to type this post you could have Googled the story and seen he was handcuffed and taken to juvenile detention.
In the amount of time you spent posting this ^^ you could have posted a direct link.

Here it is. Blake, you too take note:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

[ChumpDumper]

Little people.

I was in the US Navy, ok? We'd hit these ports for R&R, ok? Young guys want some drinks some pussy and some fun, ok?

Now if you dumb fucks don't get that why am I not surprised? And we both know you would have done the exact same thing.

So many idiots here, wow!So you sexually exploited children and now you are afraid of children with clocks.

OK.

[DisAsTerBot]

In the amount of time you spent posting this ^^ you could have posted a direct link.

Here it is. Blake, you too take note:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

so he was arrested and taken to juvenile hall. they then decided not to file charges

[Biernutz]

Lolsmh so far it looks like it's just Texas Bible belt doing what they do. Hopefully for their sake there's more to this story.

drag the bible belt into it. you forgot to say that black cop in the photo of the kid brought a rope and the other cop
brought a cross, a hammer and some spikes..We be doing what we do in the south...........what a fag......

[MultiTroll]

fabbs, why is it that you accuse everyone of being a troll with multiple profiles while you yourself have multiple profiles and make it a point to "troll the trolls"

seems really counter productive tbh
Only reason i have 2 is MultiModerator blocks Fabbs from the Spurs Forum.
I've asked for reason and/or don't really need a reason, but reinstatement possibility. No response.
So sometimes when I'm signed in as MultiTroll i just stay signed in rather then go thru the minutiae of sign off/sign back on.

[DisAsTerBot]

Only reason i have 2 is MultiModerator blocks Fabbs from the Spurs Forum.
I've asked for reason and/or don't really need a reason, but reinstatement possibility. No response.
So sometimes when I'm signed in as MultiTroll i just stay signed in rather then go thru the minutiae of sign off/sign back on.

fair enough. But on the face of it it looks like you are just being the troll(s) you complain/campaign about.

[MultiTroll]

fair enough. But on the face of it it looks like you are just being the troll(s) you complain/campaign about.
Oh heavens no.
Previously i have done my share of catch and release but many of the schticks on here have long ago became old, uncreative, unfunny and just beyond worn out.

[Blake]

Little people.

I was in the US Navy, ok? We'd hit these ports for R&R, ok? Young guys want some drinks some pussy and some fun, ok?

Now if you dumb fucks don't get that why am I not surprised? And we both know you would have done the exact same thing.

So many idiots here, wow!

Damn you're such an insecure old fuck.

[Avante]

Let's cool all the shit, what really is wrong with these Muslims?

[Avante]

Watch this Blake freak, as he follows me around, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a queer!

[Warlord23]

This is shameful, even for Texas. First of all, it's a goddamn circuit board. Your cellphone is more useful and convenient if you want to create an improvised bomb. The principal and the cops are utter morons who couldn't tell their ass from their elbow.

And you could forgive them for being idiots, but they had to be bigoted idiots as well. If they were genuinely afraid that it was a bomb, they should have evacuated the school and called a bomb squad to examine the device. All they did was put on a show of cuffing the kid, walking him to juvenile detention and interrogating him in a hostile manner to get him to"confess". Even when they realised that it was a harmless clock, they considered charging him with bringing a "hoax bomb". The kid says it's a clock (which it turns out to be), these imbeciles create the "hoax" that it might be a bomb and then accuse the kid of pulling the hoax. You couldn't make up this stuff.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's cool all the shit, what really is wrong with these Muslims?This one?

Nothing at all.

I'm sure he's smarter than you.

[Blake]

In the amount of time you spent posting this ^^ you could have posted a direct link.

Here it is. Blake, you too take note:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

you being slow on the google duly noted.

[MultiTroll]

you being slow on the google duly noted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htZRz1cKi8A

[Blake]

drag the bible belt into it. you forgot to say that black cop in the photo of the kid brought a rope and the other cop brought a cross, a hammer and some spikes..We be doing what we do in the south...........what a fag......

there's no cross, hammer or spikes in this picture.

It's my perception/opinion at this point that this arrest was based on Bible belt Islamophobia because it's in the Bible belt and this kid has a name that allegedly made the cops say "of course it was him".

You're free to disagree.

[Blake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htZRz1cKi8A

In the time you found whatever YouTube clip that is, you could have saved yourself the embarrassment of not understanding that he was actually arrested.

[Avante]

You walk in a room, there sits a Mexican, an Asian, a black guy, an okie and an obvious Muslim. When asked..."one of these guys had bombs strapped on his back, he was going to be a suicide bomber, which one?" Everyone will point to the Muslim.

That's simply reality.

[ChumpDumper]

You walk in a room, there sits a Mexican, an Asian, a black guy, an okie and an obvious Muslim. When asked..."one of these guys has bombs strapped on his back, he was going to be a suicide bomber, which one?" Everyone will point to the Muslim.

That's simply reality.No one would ever ask a question like that.

That's the stupidest thing I have ever read.

[Spurminator]

In the amount of time you spent posting this ^^ you could have posted a direct link.

Here it is. Blake, you too take note:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

Give a man a fish or teach a man to fish, etc. Thought you might want to explore the wonderful world of Internet search.

[Warlord23]

You walk in a room, there sits a Mexican, an Asian, a black guy, an okie and an obvious Muslim. When asked..."one of these guys had bombs strapped on his back, he was going to be a suicide bomber, which one?" Everyone will point to the Muslim.

That's simply reality.

What does that laughable scenario have anything to do with:
1. Police wrongfully arresting a 14 year old on a hoax charge that they invented, and interrogating him without contacting his legal guardian
2. The school suspending the child even after they found out that it was a harmless clock

[ChumpDumper]

Fabbs always needs to be spoon fed. Half his threads are asking posters for help.

[Avante]

What does that laughable scenario have anything to do with:
1. Police wrongfully arresting a 14 year old on a hoax charge that they invented, and interrogating him without contacting his legal guardian
2. The school suspending the child even after they found out that it was a harmless clock

Why do we have this thread and...MUSLIM....mentioned? Could it be because that's where the world is right now with Islam/Muslims? Pretty much fed up with them.

Everywhere we see Islam we see violence, they think Mohammad is still raiding caravans.

The world is tired of the primitive thinking fucks.

[Spurminator]

Why do we have this thread and...MUSLIM....mentioned? Could it be because that's where the world is right now with Islam/Muslims? Pretty much fed up with them.

Everywhere we see Islam we see violence, they think Mohammad is still raiding caravans.

The world is tired of the primitive thinking fucks.

You should do something about it.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do we have this thread and...MUSLIM....mentioned? Could it be because that's where the world is right now with Islam/Muslims? Pretty much fed up with them.

Everywhere we see Islam we see violence, they think Mohammad is still raiding caravans.

The world is tired of the primitive thinking fucks.Do you ever tire of yourself?

[clambake]

You should do something about it.

maybe he's devised a plan to exploit muslim children.

[Avante]

You should do something about it.

We all should, we could start by cooling this stupid..."just a few radicals'...bullshit. The violence is Islam, there is nothing radical about it at all. That's what the Koran teachs, violence towards those dreaded infidels. Now add.....if you want a guranteed place in Paradise (72 virgins) just donate your life for the cause taking some non believers with you. How fucked up is that?

[Avante]

maybe he's devised a plan to exploit muslim children.

Maybe you need to educate yourself son. Sailor in a bar little man, ok? What you don't get it? You really this stupid?

Now tell me moron, how many ports in the Middle East do the US Navy visit?

Texas....wow~~~~~~~~~~~

[Warlord23]

Why do we have this thread and...MUSLIM....mentioned? Could it be because that's where the world is right now with Islam/Muslims? Pretty much fed up with them.

Everywhere we see Islam we see violence, they think Mohammad is still raiding caravans.

The world is tired of the primitive thinking fucks.

You and a million others might be fed up with Muslims, blondes, circus clowns, people with green eyes or any other group of your choosing - that is immaterial when it comes to the civil rights of an American citizen. The law is equally applicable to all, regardless of how they are regarded by others.

[clambake]

Maybe you need to educate yourself son. Sailor in a bar litttle man, ok? What you don't get it? You really this stupid?

i don't believe the part about a bar.

[Avante]

You and a million others might be fed up with Muslims, blondes, circus clowns, people with green eyes or any other group of your choosing - that is immaterial when it comes to the civil rights of an American citizen. The law is equally applicable to all, regardless of how they are regarded by others.

How many clowns, blonds, people with green eyes are suicide bombers?

[Trill Clinton]

salute to zuckerberg.

644219252841541632

[Avante]

i don't believe the part about a bar.

Then you actually know nothing about this so why run your mouth ya fucking idiot?

[Spurminator]

We all should, we could start by cooling this stupid..."just a few radicals'...bullshit. The violence is Islam, there is nothing radical about it at all. That's what the Koran teachs, violence towards those dreaded infidels. Now add.....if you want a guranteed place in Paradise (72 virgins) just donate your life for the cause taking some non believers with you. How fucked up is that?

No I mean you should actually do something about it instead of typing words on a basketball message board.

Save us from the Muslims.

[clambake]

Then you actually know nothing about this so why run your mouth ya fucking idiot?

don't worry...your infamous acts will be recorded for posterity.

[spurraider21]

salute to zukkkerberg
traitor

[clambake]

did the devil make you do it?

[Warlord23]

How many clowns, blonds, people with green eyes are suicide bombers?

Irrelevant. If you want to live in a country where people have different rights based on their religion, you should convert to Islam and move to Saudi Arabia.

[Buddy Mignon]

You walk in a room, there sits a Mexican, an Asian, a black guy, an okie and an obvious Muslim. When asked..."one of these guys had bombs strapped on his back, he was going to be a suicide bomber, which one?" Everyone will point to the Muslim.

That's simply reality.


The honkey teacher was not in a class with strangers. Cultural stigmas are usually erased or overlooked upon getting to know a person. But, stupidity is very hard to overcome.

[Trill Clinton]

my nigga ahmed ain't playing!!!http://i60.tinypic.com/dn0c21.png

644179809170509824

welcome to the sj warrior family, ahmed.

[Ignignokt]

salute to zuckerberg.

644219252841541632

zuckerberg
>berg
bergbergbergbergbergberg

[Buddy Mignon]

Why was he in cuffs?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Dumb ass teacher/principal - nothing like deterring a gifted kid from expanding his mind. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he had a higher IQ than the teacher that sent him to the principal.

[Blake]

Dumb ass teacher/principal - nothing like deterring a gifted kid from expanding his mind. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he had a higher IQ than the teacher that sent him to the principal.

Eh, I really don't have a problem with making sure it's not a bomb and even calling the cops. I have a problem though with the arrest and the three day suspension.

[LakasRool4eva]

#istandwithachmed too

[DarrinS]

Eh, I really don't have a problem with making sure it's not a bomb and even calling the cops. I have a problem though with the arrest and the three day suspension.

Once they discovered it was harmless, a suspension makes absolutely no sense.

[apalisoc_9]

my nigga ahmed ain't playing!!!http://i60.tinypic.com/dn0c21.png

644179809170509824

welcome to the sj warrior family, ahmed.

Is that a White Revert Muslim woman?

Oh my this is m>s worst nightmare. A white lady married to a Muslim Black man.

:lmao

[Slutter McGee]

there's no cross, hammer or spikes in this picture.

It's my perception/opinion at this point that this arrest was based on Bible belt Islamophobia because it's in the Bible belt and this kid has a name that allegedly made the cops say "of course it was him".

You're free to disagree.

So you admit that BLACK cops are stupid? Sorry, I realize that is a ridiculous assumption on my part, but I am just attempting to use liberal logic to understand this.

Slutter McGee

[Blake]

So you admit that BLACK cops are stupid? Sorry, I realize that is a ridiculous assumption on my part, but I am just attempting to use liberal logic to understand this.

Slutter McGee

you realize it's a ridiculous assumption(s) but you're still running with it. There's no logic there.

[Slutter McGee]

you realize it's a ridiculous assumption(s) but you're still running with it. There's no logic there.

As was your assumption that this could have only happened in the Bible Belt. Would it really surprise you if it happened in New York or Boston...or do you just hate Christians?

Slutter McGee

[Blake]

As was your assumption that this could have only happened in the Bible Belt. Would it really surprise you if it happened in New York or Boston...or do you just hate Christians?

Slutter McGee

yes, it absolutely would stun me to find out that New York or Boston had Christians living there. There's no way.

[Slutter McGee]

yes, it absolutely would stun me to find out that New York or Boston had Christians living there. There's no way.

I know you really aren't that obtuse. But whatever.

Slutter McGee

[Blake]

I know you really aren't that obtuse. But whatever.

Slutter McGee

but you think I'm just obtuse enough that i would think something like this would only happen in the Bible belt.

[Spurtacular]

I reserve judgment 'til I know if this was a clock or a "clock."

[Reck]

These fucking cops need to stop cuffing 10 year olds already.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Why do Americans hate Muslims so much? 300 deaths a year to terrorism and 600,000 a year to McDonalds shouldn't you guys hate clownism?

[DMC]

What are they charging him with?

1. Being out of time
2. Somebody set us up the bomb
3. Making a timely mistake
4. Making time

[DMC]

Why do Americans hate Muslims so much? 300 deaths a year to terrorism and 600,000 a year to McDonalds shouldn't you guys hate clownism?
Muslims are the most trollable group in the history of mankind, just ahead of the Negroes.

[Pelicans78]

Muslims are the most trollable group in the history of mankind, just ahead of the Negroes.

It used to be Jewish people when I grew up. Fat people too.

[Slutter McGee]

but you think I'm just obtuse enough that i would think something like this would only happen in the Bible belt.

You made that pretty fucking clear.

Slutter McGee

[Blake]

You made that pretty fucking clear.

Slutter McGee

Neh, your reading comprehension blows. But let's discuss for another ten pages.

[Re-Animator]

yes, it absolutely would stun me to find out that New York or Boston had Christians living there. There's no way.

http://i.imgur.com/Y46ikNb.gif

[mouse]

What are they charging him with?

The big hand was touching the little hand?

Don't be Alarmed if he Winds up doing time.

[JoeChalupa]

He should have clocked that damn teacher!!

[Avante]

I'd be leary of boarding a plane with a gang of young middle eastern guys.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd be leary of boarding a plane with a gang of young middle eastern guys.So what would you actually do?

Board the plane or run away like a pussy?

[RandomGuy]

I saw a pit bull looking at me across the street the other day as I went to the mail box. A pit bull running the streets, scarey.

Now this could be a sweetheart of a dog, but.......it was a pit bull.

Muslims have brought it all on themselves, they have shown to be a primitive thinking bunch where violence plays a major role in their religion.

No problem with this.

It has a bit less to do with that, than with general hysteria surrounding school security these days.

[Blake]

drag the bible belt into it. you forgot to say that black cop in the photo of the kid brought a rope and the other cop
brought a cross, a hammer and some spikes..We be doing what we do in the south...........what a fag......

Biernutz

Here you go, fucknutz:

Dec 2012:


If you asked me to make a list of top public concerns about Irving ISD, indoctrinating its students into Islam wouldn’t be on it. This is a school board whose chambers are currently festooned with wreaths and jingle bells, and which kicked off its last meeting with a prayer “in Jesus’ name.”

And yet at yesterday afternoon’s work session, the first item after that opening prayer was a half-hour report on whether Irving’s curriculum is too pro-Islam.......

More:

http://irvingblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12/chain-email-prompts-35-minute-report-to-school-board-on-islam-in-irving-isd-curriculum.html/

[Silver&Black]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150916134402-clock-ahmed-mohamed-texas-medium-plus-169.jpg

Go to the airport....buy your tickets....go through security with this....and tell them it's just a clock.

[Pelicans78]

So what would you actually do?

Board the plane or run away like a pussy?

Go ride a plane with young asian girls.

[Pelicans78]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150916134402-clock-ahmed-mohamed-texas-medium-plus-169.jpg

Go to the airport....buy your tickets....go through security with this....and tell them it's just a clock.

I ain't gonna lie. That's a fucked up looking clock.

[01Snake]

This was nothing more than a ploy to get the school to react and then sue. Period.

[Biernutz]

Mohammads clock....$55 in parts and a month of work....The kid is really smart. Will
this get him into MIT? Got him an invite to the white house.

The clock he made looks like suitcase bomb
no wonder the teacher freaked ......





http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/clock%202_zps375gh7yk.jpg

[Reck]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150916134402-clock-ahmed-mohamed-texas-medium-plus-169.jpg

Go to the airport....buy your tickets....go through security with this....and tell them it's just a clock.

So where are the explosives? Those are just wires and a motherboard.

LED screen, motherboard, wires=does not make up bomb.

[Silver&Black]

So where are the explosives? Those are just wires and a motherboard.

LED screen, motherboard, wires=does not make up bomb.

Never said anything like that....I never said it looked like a "bomb". Just saying...go through airport security with that and I bet you get detained and questioned in the back room.

It's a shame what happened to that kid...it really is. I have respect for any young person who wants to become an engineer. It's fucked up....guess I'll just chalk it up to the "times we're living in nowadays."

[Reck]

Never said anything like that....I never said it looked like a "bomb". Just saying...go through airport security with that and I bet you get detained and questioned in the back room.

It's a shame what happened to that kid...it really is. I have respect for any young person who wants to become an engineer. It's fucked up....guess I'll just chalk it up to the "times we're living in nowadays."

Yeah, you're probably right about the airport thing.

Hell they stop and interogate you for going through the metal detector with your keys still on you. Paranoid fucks.

[Quetzal-X]

He wasnt going through an airport . He was going to class.

[Biernutz]

Biernutz (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13869)

Here you go, fucknutz:

Dec 2012: If you asked me to make a list of top public concerns about Irving ISD, indoctrinating its students into Islam wouldn’t be on it. This is a school board whose chambers are currently festooned with wreaths and jingle bells, and which kicked off its last meeting with a prayer “in Jesus’ name.”

And yet at yesterday afternoon’s work session, the first item after that opening prayer was a half-hour report on whether Irving’s curriculum is too pro-Islam.......

More:

http://irvingblog.dallasnews.com/201...rriculum.html/ (http://irvingblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12/chain-email-prompts-35-minute-report-to-school-board-on-islam-in-irving-isd-curriculum.html/)



I didn't ask you to make a list faggot.

[Avante]

Go ride a plane with young asian girls.

Are you really this stupid?

What do they have in Asian bars, yep, young Asian girls.

How many idiots post here?

[Clipper Nation]

This was nothing more than a ploy to get the school to react and then sue. Period.

[Biernutz]

He wasnt going through an airport . He was going to class.

The teacher who turned him in was a English teacher not his engineering teacher. Could she tell
it was just a clock? When she turned him in she was following school rules. Kids younger than
Mohamed have bombed people. Things escalated but teachers are in the CYA mode and not taking
any chances anymore with your children. In our PC times everyone assumes that only a Muslim would
be arrested and hand cuffed but one kid was suspended from school because he made a pop tart
look like a gun. Mohamed didn't look too distraught in the tweet that said "we are heading over to see my lawyer" .......

[ChumpDumper]

I can tell it's just a clock.

If you can't tell it's just a clock with no explosive material whatsoever, you're an idiot.

[mouse]

He should have clocked that damn teacher!!

kids today dont appreciate quality humor.

[Blake]

I didn't ask you to make a list faggot.

didn't give you a list dumbass.

[Blake]

I can tell it's just a clock.

If you can't tell it's just a clock with no explosive material whatsoever, you're an idiot.

PD claiming the pictures we're seeing on the social medias aren't what they confiscated

I'd like to see a picture from their pov then

[Blake]

kids today dont appreciate quality humor.

Lol quality. That's funny.

[JMarkJohns]

Story said he used a pencil box, not briefcase.

Further, they didn't think it was a bomb. They didn't evacuate. They didn't call the bomb squad. They called local PD, and manufactured a fictitious scenario where a homemade clock beeping in English was a fake bomb, likely only because of his name. No one ever feared for their life.

[Re-Animator]

https://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/andy-griffith-30-5.gif?w=350&h=263
It was just a clock.

[CavsSuperFan]

America needs to come together & embrace all Nationalities & Religions…Hippies are the only group of people who deserves to be despised…Smelly draft dodging free loaders who get their welfare checks & then picket the establishment…I can’t stand Hippies…

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130108205107/southpark2/de/images/1/1a/Eric_Cartman.jpg

[Frank Dux]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150916134402-clock-ahmed-mohamed-texas-medium-plus-169.jpg

Go to the airport....buy your tickets....go through security with this....and tell them it's just a clock.

Go through airport security with a bottle of water that's already been opened and tell them it's just water. Go through with a bottle of shampoo that's larger than 6 oz. and see what happens.

He didn't go to the airport. He took this to school to show to the teacher of his STEM class—a class where kids build devices that have circuit boards and wires.

[Ignignokt]

He should have clocked that damn teacher!!

You should have clocked that gangrene eating away your foot.

[Ignignokt]

Go through airport security with a bottle of water that's already been opened and tell them it's just water. Go through with a bottle of shampoo that's larger than 6 oz. and see what happens.

He didn't go to the airport. He took this to school to show to the teacher of his STEM class—a class where kids build devices that have circuit boards and wires.


with a suitcase tho. it was obvious a set up and a political act. You're an idiot.

[Ignignokt]

Neh, your reading comprehension blows. But let's discuss for another ten pages.

Your wife blows jamaal tho.

[Chinook]

He didn't go to the airport. He took this to school to show to the teacher of his STEM class—a class where kids build devices that have circuit boards and wires.

And that teacher knew what it was and was cool. The next class' teacher didn't know and was scared. It's easy to look at a photo and pick it apart. It's another thing to have that come out right in front of you. Teachers aren't trained to know everything you need to make a bomb, so it's not like a police officer mistaking a wallet for a gun and killing someone.

If you didn't have the 'that's who I thought it was' thing, then I would be pretty sympathetic to the school. They definitely showed their prejudice and will get their asses handed to him in court. But we won't and shouldn't evolve to a point where we disregard our instincts of danger, because unfortunate things do happen often enough.

[Diabeetus Joe]

You should have clocked that gangrene eating away your foot.

:lmao Brahahahaha!!! Good one igotnocock. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Good article about how this shit is a publicity stunt and nothing more:

http://streetcarnage.com/blog/a-little-kid-just-punked-the-president/

[Zombie.]

Good article about how this shit is a publicity stunt and nothing more:

http://streetcarnage.com/blog/a-little-kid-just-punked-the-president/

:sleep

[Chinook]

Good article about how this shit is a publicity stunt and nothing more:

http://streetcarnage.com/blog/a-little-kid-just-punked-the-president/

Well no, that article is stupid as hell.

[Jacob1983]

So it was a hoax bomb? Just sad and pathetic. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and other social media are garbage.

[hater]

Don't buy that story. The father would have to be a clarvoiant to know the teacher, principal, policemen and rest would be stupid enough to believe it was a hoax bomb and not either a clock or a real bomb.

The school and police fucked up regardless of who made that clock and why. They were owned and deserve the ridicule of the world.

[hater]

Anybody that would believe that article cripplenation posted would have to be at least as stupid as the teachers or police involved :lol

[Biernutz]

didn't give you a list dumbass.

you addressed the quote to me you faggot fuckhead.

[Biernutz]

And that teacher knew what it was and was cool. The next class' teacher didn't know and was scared. It's easy to look at a photo and pick it apart. It's another thing to have that come out right in front of you. Teachers aren't trained to know everything you need to make a bomb, so it's not like a police officer mistaking a wallet for a gun and killing someone.

If you didn't have the 'that's who I thought it was' thing, then I would be pretty sympathetic to the school. They definitely showed their prejudice and will get their asses handed to him in court. But we won't and shouldn't evolve to a point where we disregard our instincts of danger, because unfortunate things do happen often enough.

Chump said they were all idiot's for not trusting it was a clock...



I can tell it's just a clock.

If you can't tell it's just a clock with no explosive material whatsoever, you're an idiot.

[Blake]

you addressed the quote to me you faggot fuckhead.

Yeah. There's no list which is besides the point any way.

You're just really stupid I guess.

[Chinook]

Chump said they were all idiot's...

Well, yeah, it's obvious upon inspection. But which rando is going to scrutinize it enough? The attitude you quoted from Chump is the same attitude people in horror movies have. Now, the proper course of action should have been to evacuate the wing if you thought it was a bomb, so I don't know what happened there.

But here's what CNN had in their latest article:


Ahmed has said he brought the device to school to impress his teachers, but one became concerned about the device and reported him to the principal.Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said authorities were able to determine quickly that it wasn't a bomb, but they investigated Ahmed to determine whether he brought the device to school with the intention of creating alarm. It is against Texas law to use or possess a fake bomb with the intent to make someone believe that it is an explosive.
Ahmed told investigators it was a clock, but he was led away in handcuffs after he wouldn't say much more on the matter, Boyd said. Further investigation revealed details -- such as his making the clock to impress teachers -- that led police to decide not to pursue charges, Boyd said.

I don't know what Ahmed was thinking, but it wasn't the right course of action of deescalate matters. On one hand, the police should have given him his rights if they were going to arrest him. On the other hand, the kid didn't seem to explain himself. So yeah, the police were definitely stupid for arresting him, but the kid doesn't seem too different from people in those police killings. Perhaps he was thinking lawsuit the whole time or perhaps his father's antics had conditioned him to politicize things.

The police should be embarrassed over this, but that kid has gotten too much support as well. People are stupid. The Twitter age was supposed to make us more informed. But instead, it just lets us swallow the same bullshit as before. It's just we get it while it's still warm.

[Frank Dux]

And that teacher knew what it was and was cool. The next class' teacher didn't know and was scared. It's easy to look at a photo and pick it apart. It's another thing to have that come out right in front of you. Teachers aren't trained to know everything you need to make a bomb, so it's not like a police officer mistaking a wallet for a gun and killing someone.

If you didn't have the 'that's who I thought it was' thing, then I would be pretty sympathetic to the school. They definitely showed their prejudice and will get their asses handed to him in court. But we won't and shouldn't evolve to a point where we disregard our instincts of danger, because unfortunate things do happen often enough.

The thing that bothers me is that Barney Fife threw him behind bars and charged him with false crimes for a freaking STEM project. This is straight out of Idiocracy.

[Chinook]

The thing that bothers me is that Barney Fife threw him behind bars and charged him with false crimes for a freaking STEM project. This is straight out of Idiocracy.

Totally didn't do that, so you don't have to worry about being bothered.

[Frank Dux]

Totally didn't do that, so you don't have to worry about being bothered.

I know it wasn't actually Barney Fife who arrested him for his STEM project. That's just something people when referring to an incompetent, dimwitted police officer.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump said they were all idiot's for not trusting it was a clock...If they didn't evacuate the school, they all knew it wasn't a bomb.

[Hungry farmer]

https://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/andy-griffith-30-5.gif?w=350&h=263
It was just a clock.
:lmao

[Chinook]

I know it wasn't actually Barney Fife who arrested him for his STEM project. That's just something people when referring to an incompetent, dimwitted police officer.

I know, I mean the throwing him behind bars and charging him business. They took him to juvie, interrogated them, realized it was no big deal and let him go. No charges, no police records. Kid probably doesn't even leave the building had he explained and had they gotten the first teacher to discuss what happened. But he claimed up, which was his right, but it helped exacerbate the situation.

[Frank Dux]

I know, I mean the throwing him behind bars and charging him business. They took him to juvie, interrogated them, realized it was no big deal and let him go. No charges, no police records. Kid probably doesn't even leave the building had he explained and had they gotten the first teacher to discuss what happened. But he claimed up, which was his right, but it helped exacerbate the situation.

To be clear, they arrested him, carted him out of school in front of his classmates in handcuffs, took him to jail, processed him, detained him, didn't immediately notify his parents of his arrest and interrogated him without his parents or his lawyer present. I think what's most disturbing is the allegation that they denied his multiple requests to speak to his parents.

I don't blame the child for clamming up. The kid comes to school with a STEM project that he's proud of the next thing he knows he's surrounded by four police officers accusing him of being a bomb-maker and refusing his right to speak with his legal guardians—meanwhile he's continually telling them it's just a clock. If anything, they should have contacted his parents sooner and allowed them to be present during the interrogation instead of skirting the kid's rights. They probably could have come to their inevitable conclusions that it's not a bomb and that it was not designed to scare anybody much sooner, and saved themselves from the eventual civil rights lawsuit.

[Warlord23]

I know, I mean the throwing him behind bars and charging him business. They took him to juvie, interrogated them, realized it was no big deal and let him go. No charges, no police records. Kid probably doesn't even leave the building had he explained and had they gotten the first teacher to discuss what happened. But he claimed up, which was his right, but it helped exacerbate the situation.

Taking him to juvenile detention and not allowing him to contact his legal guardian when he asked to do so is a violation of the Texas Family Code. The kid's parents will sue and the Texas taxpayer will pay enough to see this kid through college and more.

[vander]

To be clear, they arrested him, carted him out of school in front of his classmates in handcuffs, took him to jail, processed him, detained him, didn't immediately notify his parents of his arrest and interrogated him without his parents or his lawyer present. I think what's most disturbing is the allegation that they denied his multiple requests to speak to his parents.

I don't blame the child for clamming up. The kid comes to school with a STEM project that he's proud of the next thing he knows he's surrounded by four police officers accusing him of being a bomb-maker and refusing his right to speak with his legal guardians—meanwhile he's continually telling them it's just a clock. If anything, they should have contacted his parents sooner and allowed them to be present during the interrogation instead of skirting the kid's rights. They probably could have come to their inevitable conclusions that it's not a bomb and that it was not designed to scare anybody much sooner, and saved themselves from the eventual civil rights lawsuit.

is that all it was? his dad had nothing to do with it?

[Warlord23]

is that all it was? his dad had nothing to do with it?

The kid also assembled a Bluetooth speaker and gifted it to his friend, and made radios at home. Next you'll claim that this was a grand master plan several years in the making by his father.

[Trill Clinton]

https://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/andy-griffith-30-5.gif?w=350&h=263
It was just a clock.

:lmao

[Chinook]

To be clear, they arrested him, carted him out of school in front of his classmates in handcuffs, took him to jail, processed him, detained him, didn't immediately notify his parents of his arrest and interrogated him without his parents or his lawyer present.

He didn't go the jail. I'm not even sure he was "processed". Anyway, you won't find me saying he was treated fairly at all. As far as I know, the police violated pretty ingrained legal rights, and they'll pay for that.


I don't blame the child for clamming up. The kid comes to school with a STEM project that he's proud of the next thing he knows he's surrounded by four police officers accusing him of being a bomb-maker and refusing his right to speak with his legal guardians—meanwhile he's continually telling them it's just a clock. If anything, they should have contacted his parents sooner and allowed them to be present during the interrogation instead of skirting the kid's rights. They probably could have come to their inevitable conclusions that it's not a bomb and that it was not designed to scare anybody much sooner, and saved themselves from the eventual civil rights lawsuit.

He should have just said nothing at all if he wasn't going to actually explain what happened, which is the word so far. I don't blame him for going all legal, but repeatedly saying "It's a clock" is not helpful. Saying, "It's a clock I made for this one class. Ask that teacher and they'll vouch for me," is helpful. The kid doesn't have to do the police's job for them, I understand. But to act like the police should have let him go simply because he repeated "It's a clock," makes no sense. Again, though, since I feel like this is going to get missed, the police violated this kid's rights, and they are going to end up poorer and embarrassed for their shoddy work.


Taking him to juvenile detention and not allowing him to contact his legal guardian when he asked to do so is a violation of the Texas Family Code. The kid's parents will sue and the Texas taxpayer will pay enough to see this kid through college and more.

I agree.

Anyway, we're talking about different things here. The kid was in the legal right by clamming up, and the police were in the wrong. But that doesn't make the kid smart. As I said, it's like with the police shootings that have happened recently. Parents need to teach their kids to be cooperative and non-confrontational with police officers. If one of those police officers had hauled off and shot the kid between the eyes in a fit of insanity, that department would have been up shit creek, it would be a year's worth of coverage, tons of protests and all that. But the kid would be dead, and no amount of hashtags would bring him back. The kid's father has probably made him very used to political controversy, but the time to be a hero is not during the arrest; it's afterwards.

If you're surrounded by police officers and can defuse the situation with a quick explanation, you do so. You don't go around saying, "It's a clock" over and over again like the police are the biggest idiots on the planet -- even when they are -- and get yourself hauled off to juvie. That's just stupid.

[Clipper Nation]

Media narrative getting destroyed once again, this time by an actual engineer:


So there you have it folks, Ahmed Mohamad did not invent, nor build a clock. He took apart an existing clock, and transplanted the guts into a pencil box, and claimed it was his own creation. It all seems really fishy to me.


I refer back again to this YouTube video interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE) with Ahmed. He explains that he closed up the box with a piece of cord because he didn’t want it to look suspicious. I’m curious, why would "looking suspicious" have even crossed his mind before this whole event unfolded, if he was truly showing off a hobby project, something so innocuous as an alarm clock.


If we stop and think – was it really such a ridiculous reaction from the teacher and the police in the first place? How many school shootings and incidents of violence have we had, where we hear afterwards "this could have been prevented, if only we paid more attention to the signs!" Teachers are taught to be suspicious and vigilant. Ahmed wasn’t accused of making a bomb – he was accused of making a look-alike, a hoax. And be honest with yourself, a big red digital display with a bunch of loose wires in a brief-case looking box is awful like a Hollywood-style representation of a bomb. Everyone jumped to play the race and religion cards and try and paint the teachers and police as idiots and bigots, but in my mind, they were probably acting responsibly and erring on the side of caution to protect the rest of their students, just in case. "This wouldn’t have happened if Ahmed were white," they say. We’re supposed to be sensitive to school violence, but apparently religious and racial sensitivity trumps that. At least we have another clue about how the sensitivity and moral outrage pecking order lies.

http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

[Reck]

^Huh?

He made it his own creation. Doesn't matter if he took the parts from another clock.

Besides, this wasn't a NASA project. If anything it makes the school teachers and cops look that much stupider.

[Silver&Black]

How many school shootings and incidents of violence have we had, where we hear afterwards "this could have been prevented, if only we paid more attention to the signs!" Teachers are taught to be suspicious and vigilant.

Say, God forbid, a bomb does go off at a school filled with children. Then days later a surviving teacher says, "Well I saw a kid with a briefcase filled with wires...and it looked a little suspicious."

The public would be asking, "Why didn't you say anything?". I guess his/her answer would be, "He looked Muslim and I don't want to lose my job."

Even the Muslim groups understand why the kid was handcuffed. Actually, they find no problem with what the teachers and police did. They only have a problem with the kid being questioned without a lawyer or parent present.....

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/09/muslim_group_doesnt_blame_scho.html

[Reck]

Say, God forbid, a bomb does go off at a school filled with children. Then days later a surviving teacher says, "Well I saw a kid with a briefcase filled with wires...and it looked a little suspicious."

The public would be asking, "Why didn't you say anything?". I guess his/her answer would be, "He looked Muslim and I don't want to lose my job."

Even the Muslim groups understand why the kid was handcuffed. Actually, they find no problem with what the teachers and police did. They only have a problem with the kid being questioned without a lawyer or parent present.....

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/09/muslim_group_doesnt_blame_scho.html

But blames the goverment. :lol

[Jacob1983]

Sounds like a hoax bomb to me or that the pecker did all of this for attention. Can we get someone to teach the difference between race, ethnicity, and religion? A Muslim is a follower of Islam. It's not a race or ethnicity.

[HI-FI]

the lil koranimal will be fine imo.

[Mark Celibate]

Muslims got terrorism written in their genes, tbh.

[Pauly D]

^Huh?

He made it his own creation. Doesn't matter if he took the parts from another clock.

Besides, this wasn't a NASA project. If anything it makes the school teachers and cops look that much stupider.

Lol if a kid puts together a lego set that's not his or her own creation

[Pauly D]

Muslims got terrorism written in their genes, tbh.

It's called generations of inbreeding

[Silver&Black]

What's that famous saying....

"Err on the side of caution"


The more I read about this story the more I believe it is a deliberate hoax. I didn't watch the youtube video CN is talking about....BUT if the little boy did say that tied up the box because it "looks suspicious" the teacher will get off with no punishment.

Anybody got a link to that video?

[spurtech09]

The clock did look like a bomb ....If I were the teacher I would be freaking out....can't trust no one anymore....and im talking about all race and religion....

[apalisoc_9]

Any invention that requires wires would look like a bomb to the laymen. :lol

Why are people screaming conspiracy? These are the same people that would call conspiracy theory nuts when it doesn't favour their agenda :lol

You have to choose a side..Either believe in the Media or open your mind to conspiracies IMO.

[Jacob1983]

Turn the kid into a white blonde boy and the media would be calling him an anti government domestic terrorist and racist.

[Clipper Nation]

Sounds like a hoax bomb to me or that the pecker did all of this for attention. Can we get someone to teach the difference between race, ethnicity, and religion? A Muslim is a follower of Islam. It's not a race or ethnicity.

Personally, I think his father came up with it as an excuse to shake down the school. He has a history of being an attention whore, apparently.

[Clipper Nation]

What's that famous saying....

"Err on the side of caution"


The more I read about this story the more I believe it is a deliberate hoax. I didn't watch the youtube video CN is talking about....BUT if the little boy did say that tied up the box because it "looks suspicious" the teacher will get off with no punishment.

Anybody got a link to that video?

Starts at 1:25 of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mW4w0Y1OXE

[spurtech09]

Any invention that requires wires would look like a bomb to the laymen. :lol

Why are people screaming conspiracy? These are the same people that would call conspiracy theory nuts when it doesn't favour their agenda :lol

You have to choose a side..Either believe in the Media or open your mind to conspiracies IMO.clock made out of a suitcase? odd

[Silver&Black]

Starts at 1:25 of this video:

:tu Thanks

No way this woman did anything wrong. He even finds it "suspicious".

[Jacob1983]

For a genius or whiz kid, the clock or hoax bomb looked shitty and poorly put together. Looked like something that was done by some bubba in a cabin out in the woods.

[apalisoc_9]

Ahmed will probably end up earning 6 figures in his early 20's and have some sort of position..

Lucky ass nigga...srsly.

[Slutter McGee]

Neh, your reading comprehension blows. But let's discuss for another ten pages.

His response to me calling him out on his Christian bashing, and his assumption that this shit only happens in the Bible Belt.

Earlier in the thread from Blake:


It's my perception/opinion at this point that this arrest was based on Bible belt Islamophobia because it's in the Bible belt and this kid has a name that allegedly made the cops say "of course it was him".


There is probably some liberal logic in all of this he can explain to me.

Slutter McGee

[Reck]

Lol if a kid puts together a lego set that's not his or her own creation

You dont say

[Warlord23]

Personally, I think his father came up with it as an excuse to shake down the school. He has a history of being an attention whore, apparently.

So if I follow you, this was the father's plan:
1. Give birth to a smart kid, get him interested in electronics
2. Make sure he tinkers around assembling his own devices over a few years to establish a reputation as a whiz kid of sorts
3. Get him to assemble a clock on a circuit board - arguably the most common item used in science lab
4. Have him take it to school, and show it to the engineering teacher on his own
5. Set the alarm to go off during English class, so that the English teacher investigates
6. Hope that the English teacher and principal are dumb enough to piss in their pants and call the police
7. Hope that the police are also dumb enough to not recognise a circuit board
8. Hope that nobody with basic science knowledge (e.g. the engineering teacher or someone in the PD who isn't ignorant of science) is brought in to the picture
9. Hope that the PD forgets Texas law regarding handling juveniles and goes overboard in their interrogation
10. Hope that this goes viral on social media

That "plan" left so many things to chance that it really wasn't much of a plan IMO.

The alternative explanation is that the kid wanted to show something he had done in 20 mins to his engineering teacher. Unfortunately some very ignorant people who've been fed a steady diet of paranoia by the media decided to overreact and make fools of themselves in the process.

Occam's razor - which scenario is more likely?

[ChumpDumper]

lol the Trump birthers have found a new conspiracy.

[hater]

:lmao holy shit there are stupid people around us

He built a clock that looks like a false bomb to get attention from social media?? :lmao retards everywhere I guess :lol

[DMC]

So what would you actually do?

Board the plane or run away like a pussy?

HAHAHAHA little guy, let me tell you something OK? I've never run away from a fight OK? Only an idiot would make such a claim!! OK? HAHAHAHA you're that idiot now.

[Silver&Black]

lol the Trump birthers have found a new conspiracy.

Hillary Clinton started the "birther" movement tbh....

You gonna start talking shit about her for doing it now?

[ChumpDumper]

Hillary Clinton started the "birther" movement tbh....

You gonna start talking shit about her for doing it now?Sure. I will talk shit about her for that if true. I have no problem with that. Especially if she is still doing it.

Are you gonna start talking shit about Trump and his supporters for still letting it live days ago?

I think you might have a problem doing that.

[Silver&Black]

Sure. I will talk shit about her for that if true. I have no problem with that. Especially if she is still doing it.

Are you gonna start talking shit about Trump and his supporters for still letting it live days ago?

I think you might have a problem doing that.

Nah...no problem doing that. He's about to be out of office...what's the point of bring it up again? Trump shouldn't be talking about it still...

Just found it a little funny that you mention Trump and "birther" together...when he's not the one who started it...and the one who started it is going to be in the upcoming election also.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah...no problem doing that. He's about to be out of office...what's the point of bring it up again? Trump shouldn't be talking about it still...

Just found it a little funny that you mention Trump and "birther" together...when he's not the one who started it...and the one who started it is going to be in the upcoming election also.How did she start it? As I recall, a lawyer who said he supported her made the biggest deal out of it. If you have something directly from her or her campaign, I'll be glad to read it.

And yes, I will shit on Trump even more because he made a bigger deal out of it for a longer time and still panders to birthers as of last week.

So yeah, I'd like to see you shit on him for that.

Can you do it?

Let's see you call him out for real.

:cryshouldn't be doing that:cry

[Silver&Black]

How did she start it? As I recall, a lawyer who said he supported her made the biggest deal out of it. If you have something directly from her or her campaign, I'll be glad to read it.

And yes, I will shit on Trump even more because he made a bigger deal out of it for a longer time and still panders to birthers as of last week.

So yeah, I'd like to see you shit on him for that.

Can you do it?

Let's see you call him out for real.

:cryshouldn't be doing that:cry

All I know is Hillary Clinton (or someone in her campaign team...which makes her liable IMO) started talking about it well before Donald Trump did.....:lol That's all I said.

You must think I started a Church of Trump thread...or have posted that I will vote for Trump.....I've done neither. I guess every Republican must automatically support Trump now? Dude, I'll shit on him for several reasons. Why would you think I would not? Because you won't shit on a Democrat? I've already told you the two worst politicians to me are John Boehner and John McCain (both Republicans). Over Hillary, Obama, Reid, Pelosi...etc.

Things I don't like about Trump: Him talking shit about other candidates appearances. Him saying that if he loses he may not support the Republican nominee (That's a big one too). Him supporting democrats for years and now back-tracking saying ":cry I'm a businessman...I had to get along with everyone :cry"

:lmao Chump's logic
:lmao Thinks I'm not capable of talking shit about Republicans

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao David getting shat on again. Dude's lifelong dream is to be the cup from 2Girls1Cup.

http://i.imgur.com/mCViars.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

All I know is Hillary Clinton (or someone in her campaign team...which makes her liable IMO) started talking about it well before Donald Trump did.....:lol That's all I said.Who?

Do you really know this or are you just talking out of your ass?

Could you actually back up what you are saying or you would just be a little bitch about it?


You must think I started a Church of Trump thread...or have posted that I will vote for Trump.....I've done neither. I guess every Republican must automatically support Trump now? Dude, I'll shit on him for several reasons. Why would you think I would not? Because you won't shit on a Democrat? I've already told you the two worst politicians to me are John Boehner and John McCain (both Republicans). Over Hillary, Obama, Reid, Pelosi...etc.

Things I don't like about Trump: Him talking shit about other candidates appearances. Him saying that if he loses he may not support the Republican nominee (That's a big one too). Him supporting democrats for years and now back-tracking saying ":cry I'm a businessman...I had to get along with everyone :cry"

:lmao Chump's logic
:lmao Thinks I'm not capable of talking shit about RepublicansI noticed you didn't take a shit on him about his past and present birtherism.

Why not?

All I know is you automatically had to bring up Clinton when Trump was being shat upon for his birtherism.

lol liable

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao David getting shat on again. Dude's lifelong dream is to be the cup from 2Girls1Cup.

http://i.imgur.com/mCViars.jpgDavid, you're a birther too?

lol

[Clipper Nation]

David, you're a birther too?

lol
Are you voting for Hillary?

[JMarkJohns]

Everybody is missing the main point: they didn't actually treat the situation as a bomb threat, as they didn't call in a bomb squad, nor did they evacuate the school. Nobody believed anybody was in danger. People are saying everyone involved erred on side of caution, yet this caution kept the danger on a crowded school grounds with no specialists requested to disarm the danger.

So, how much danger did they really believe they were in?

Basically this argument paints the picture of just enough caution to embarrass/harass a 14-YO who never said it was a bomb, but not any actual caution to do anything to save lives had it been a bomb.

Whole thing is stupid, but as someone who's graded science projects for high schoolers, visual quality isn't always their strong suit. If it work, nobody cares about the housing.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you voting for Hillary?No, David.

Are you a birther too, David?

[Clipper Nation]

No, David.
lol "no"


Are you a birther too, David?
I'm not, David.

Are you a cuck? Wait, don't answer that question, David, we all know you are one.

[ChumpDumper]

lol "no"What more need be said, cuck?



I'm not, David.So what do you think of Trump's birtherism, David?

[Clipper Nation]

What more need be said, cuck?
We all know you'll be voting for Hillary like a good little leftist, David. Which makes you a birther by your own logic.


So what do you think of Trump's birtherism, David?
I don't care. I do like that it trolls the fuck out of SJW libcucks like you, but that's about it.

[ChumpDumper]

We all know you'll be voting for Hillary like a good little leftist, David. Which makes you a birther by your own logic.I wouldn't vote for her in any case, David.



I don't care. I do like that it trolls the fuck out of SJW libcucks like you, but that's about it.lol "I don't care"

He's as bad a joke as you are, cuck.

[Clipper Nation]

So David, what was your reaction to Hillary leaking this picture of Obama in the '08 campaign?

http://i.imgur.com/P4K2ze2.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/dust-somali-photo-barack-obama-hillary-clinton-fighting-hard-article-1.307888

[ChumpDumper]

So David, what was your reaction to Hillary leaking this picture of Obama in the '08 campaign?


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/dust-somali-photo-barack-obama-hillary-clinton-fighting-hard-article-1.307888I thought whoever did that was stupid. I don't know who it actually traced back to but it was stupid.

Do you think Trump's investigation into birther claims was stupid?

I think it was stupid.

[Clipper Nation]

I thought whoever did that was stupid. I don't know who it actually traced back to but it was stupid.

Do you think Trump's investigation into birther claims was stupid?

I think it was stupid.
lol "it was stupid"

Your boy Hillary is responsible for birtherism AND the Obama Muslim theory. Those were libtard Democrat inventions. By your own logic, by continuing to be a libtard, you're a birther, David.

[ChumpDumper]

lol "it was stupid"

Your boy Hillary is responsible for birtherism AND the Obama Muslim theory. Those were libtard Democrat inventions. By your own logic, by continuing to be a libtard, you're a birther, David.No, David -- you're really quite stupid.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/

You're such a gullible cuck. You will follow any rumor or conspiracy without even a single thought.

[Clipper Nation]

No, David -- you're really quite stupid.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/

You're such a gullible cuck.
lol FactCheck, brought to you by the left-wing Annenberg Foundation

Hillary was the original birther, David:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.html

[ChumpDumper]

lol FactCheck, brought to you by the left-wing Annenberg Foundation

Hillary was the original birther, David:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.htmlThis says nothing about Clinton nor her campaign spreading the rumor.

Did you even read it?

lol David -- you got cucked by your own link.

[Silver&Black]

All I did Chump was call you out for saying "Trump truther".

Weak....extremely weak argument. The other side could easily counter with "Hillary truther". Shame on you for using the "truther" argument to demonize Trump...when there is someone else running in the election who brought it up well before the other one did.

/discussion

[ChumpDumper]

All I did Chump was call you out for saying "Trump truther".

Weak....extremely weak argument. The other side could easily counter with "Hillary truther". Shame on you for using the "truther" argument to demonize Trump...when there is someone else running in the election who brought it up well before the other one did.

/discussionlol "discussion"

Trump actually brought it up. Many times.

Hillary never did. David just proved it with his link.

[Clipper Nation]

This says nothing about Clinton nor her campaign spreading the rumor.

Did you even read it?

lol David -- you got cucked by your own link.
Do you really think Hillary didn't know what her own PAC was doing? She spent that entire campaign hiding behind "surrogates" to smear Obama.

lol David - cucked again by your own party.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you really think Hillary didn't know what her own PAC was doing? She spent that entire campaign hiding behind "surrogates" to smear Obama.

lol David - cucked again by your own party.Her PAC?

Tell us which PAC "leaked" the picture, David.

Show us another one of your links. Cuck yourself all over again.\

lol

[Clipper Nation]

Her PAC?

Tell us which PAC "leaked" the picture, David.

Show us another one of your links. Cuck yourself all over again.\

lol
I'm still talking about the birther rumors, David. Those were first leaked by her PUMA PAC.


Investigations for my new book, Wingnuts (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0984295119/thedaibea-20/ref=as_at?tag=thedailybeast-autotag-20&linkCode=as2&), revealed that the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs. They were a splinter group of hard-core Hillary Clinton supporters who did not want to give up the ghost after the bitter 50-state Bataan Death March to the 2008 Democratic nomination.In the early summer of '08, message boards on sites like PUMAParty.com began lighting up with the ultimate reversal-of-fortune fantasy—that their party's nomination could be overturned on constitutional grounds. "Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President!" read one representative e-mail (http://pumaparty.com/vb/puma-talking-points-media-relations/18349-write-your-local-areas-newspapers-ask-if-obama-legal.html): "This came from a USNA [U.S. Naval Academy] alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media handle this...WRITE TO YOUR LOCAL newspaper editors etc. Keep this out there everyday possible. Also write to the DNC too!"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html

[ChumpDumper]

I'm still talking about the birther rumors, David. Those were first leaked by her PUMA PAC.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html[/FONT][/COLOR]lol David -- now you're trying to pass off a message board as a political action committee.

This keeps getting better and better, cuck.

[Silver&Black]

Do you really think Hillary didn't know what her own PAC was doing? She spent that entire campaign hiding behind "surrogates" to smear Obama..

I guarantee you she was the 1st phone call when this intel was discovered. The very first call...

[ChumpDumper]

I guarantee you she was the 1st phone call when this intel was discovered. The very first call...lol intel

lol PAC

lol "/discussion"

[Silver&Black]

Yeah because "All these people did these atrocious things without her knowing ANYTHING" seems a lot more logical...

:rolleyes

Are you blind Chump? Toeing the party line awfully tight tonight I see.....

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah because "All these people did these atrocious things without her knowing ANYTHING" seems a lot more logical...

:rolleyes

Are you blind Chump? Toeing the party line awfully tight tonight I see.....Do you think Donald Trump knows what CN and you are posting about him right now?

Yes or no.

It was a post on a message board. Anyone can do it. Even you.

I certainly think the Clinton campaigners were idiots about it once they were asked.

[Reck]

Everybody is missing the main point: they didn't actually treat the situation as a bomb threat, as they didn't call in a bomb squad, nor did they evacuate the school. Nobody believed anybody was in danger. People are saying everyone involved erred on side of caution, yet this caution kept the danger on a crowded school grounds with no specialists requested to disarm the danger.

So, how much danger did they really believe they were in?

Basically this argument paints the picture of just enough caution to embarrass/harass a 14-YO who never said it was a bomb, but not any actual caution to do anything to save lives had it been a bomb.

Whole thing is stupid, but as someone who's graded science projects for high schoolers, visual quality isn't always their strong suit. If it work, nobody cares about the housing.

That's what I thought when I first read it.

The twat teacher thought it was suspeciously like a bomb but she kept it? Had it been real, they would have been blown the fuck up.

Stupid fucks.

[Clipper Nation]

lol David -- now you're trying to pass off a message board as a political action committee.

This keeps getting better and better, cuck.
PUMA ("People United Means Action") was a political action committee in the United States that opposed the Democratic Party leadership and the nomination of Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President in the 2008 presidential election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action


You are profoundly retarded, David.

[ChumpDumper]

PUMA ("People United Means Action") was a political action committee in the United States that opposed the Democratic Party leadership and the nomination of Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President in the 2008 presidential election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action


You are profoundly retarded, David.
Investigations for my new book, Wingnuts, revealed that the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs.http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html

Cucked by your own link again, David.

lol

Seriously, did you read any of the things you link?

[mouse]

Lol quality. That's funny.

About time you gave some props.

[Chinook]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a fuck-tard, but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=233&v=aGit-XltUB4

Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused, which started making people nervous. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's attitude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those douchebag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.

[Reck]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a fuck-tard, but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=233&v=aGit-XltUB4

Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused, which started making people nervous. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's attitude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those douchebag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.

Nice theory..

[ChumpDumper]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I don't watch Bill Maher, because I think he's a fuck-tard, but I saw this on Facebook (just the first few minutes):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=233&v=aGit-XltUB4

Gist is according to Cuban, the kid was uncooperative prior to the thing becoming an incident. No one thought it was a bomb, but teachers wanted him to put it away for hours, and he refused. That on its face is grounds for discipline. And it definitely takes credibility from the victimization angle. It comes off like I was saying it did: The kid was subverting authority for no reason and got into trouble for it. The police were wrong and will pay for it, but the kid's attitude is one we NEED to get out of people's heads.

It also adds a different spin on the "That's who I thought it was" comment, as it seems possible that this kid was just one of those douchebag guys with a superiority complex. He definitely doesn't deserve the praise he's getting.So the latest spin attempt is the school called the police because Ahmed was being sassy?

That's even worse tbh.

These theories really need to be focus grouped before dissemination.

[Chinook]

So the latest spin attempt is the school called the police because Ahmed was being sassy?

That's even worse tbh.

These theories really need to be focus grouped before dissemination.

It seemed sort of obvious from the first story I saw that the kid didn't divulge what happened to the police. And that's understandable, since we have Miranda rights and all that. But it also seems like he didn't explain himself to teachers either. That's not okay. And if he was seriously his SIXTH period class when his teacher freaked, it seems obvious that the school didn't think it was actually a bomb. Instead, they thought it was the kid trying to scare people by pretending it was a bomb. That's actually what the popo has been saying the whole time, so it's not really a new theory.

I do think what Chris Matthews said at like the six-minute mark is what rings truest: People took sides before even knowing what happened. There was no investigation before everyone declared the kid a hero. You had folks like Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) saying, 'Of course; it's Dallas.' For some reason, the kid's testimony, which was being coached, is considered ironclad, and everything that the school and police are saying is considered an attempt to cover this up. It's fucking pathetic for people who are ignorant on this matter outside of a view articles to try to take the intellectual high road.

[ChumpDumper]

It seemed sort of obvious from the first story I saw that the kid didn't divulge what happened to the police. And that's understandable, since we have Miranda rights and all that. But it also seems like he didn't explain himself to teachers either. That's not okay. And if he was seriously his SIXTH period teach for freaked, it seems obvious that the school didn't think it was actually a bomb. Instead, they thought it was the kid trying to scare people by pretending it was a bomb. That's actually what the popo has been saying the whole time, so it's not really a new theory.

I do think what Chris Matthews said at like the six-minute mark is what rings truest: People took sides before even knowing what happened. There was no investigation before everyone declared the kid a hero. You had folks like Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) saying, 'Of course; it's Dallas.' For some reason, the kid's testimony, which was being coached, is considered ironclad, and everything that the school and police are saying is considered an attempt to cover this up. It's fucking pathetic for people who are ignorant on this matter outside of a view articles to try to take the intellectual high road.He told everyone it's a clock.

It is, in fact, a clock.

What more did he have to say?

I don't think anyone is trying to cover anything up. I just think the school and the police look ridiculous in what they have actually said about the incident.

[ChumpDumper]

Since everyone involved knew it wasn't a bomb, all the teacher had to say was "Put that away. Thing looks like a bomb. People could freak out over that."

And if he didn't put it away, take it away until class is over.

I see no other course of action here that is justified.

[Chinook]

He told everyone it's a clock.

It is, in fact, a clock.

What more did he have to say?

That doesn't do anything. It doesn't explain anything; it doesn't defuse any tension. And refusing to explain it or put it away creates more tension. The kid himself knew it was suspicious, or could be taken that way. So if he knew it was suspicious and still kept out there even after being told to put it away, it's his fault.

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: It's tea.
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: It's tea.
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks suspicious.
Y: It's tea.
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: It's tea.

Is the teacher an idiot here? There are some very easy ways to tell that it's tea and not alcohol. But why is it the teacher's responsibility to determine that beyond a shadow of a doubt? And who are you to decline the teacher's request to put it away? They might suspend you even after they find out the flask had tea and no alcohol. You didn't lie, but you didn't cooperate, and you made it into a big deal.

[Chinook]

Since everyone involved knew it wasn't a bomb, all the teacher had to say was "Put that away. Thing looks like a bomb. People could freak out over that."

There's a difference between "No one thought it was a bomb," and "Everyone knew it wasn't." Initially, no one thought it was suspicious. But after he refused to put it away, it started to be become suspicious. No one thought it was a bomb still, it seems, but people may have thought he wanted to make a big deal about it. Maybe simply because he was proud of his work. Maybe because he knows what kind of reaction a Muslim kid walking around with a device like that would warrant, and it was sort of a thrill. If you think that's silly, you probably don't know what being a minority is like. I can tell you from experience that it's sometimes cool to use stereotypes to your advantage. Being a large black man, I can totally bull my way past some things just by seeming angry and confrontational. Of course, after the police shootings, I wouldn't think of doing that anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

That doesn't do anything. It doesn't explain anything; it doesn't defuse any tension. And refusing to explain it or put it away creates more tension. The kid himself knew it was suspicious, or could be taken that way. So if he knew it was suspicious and still kept out there even after being told to put it away, it's his fault.

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: It's tea.
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: It's tea.
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks suspicious.
Y: It's tea.
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: It's tea.

Is the teacher an idiot here? There are some very easy ways to tell that it's tea and not alcohol. But why is it the teacher's responsibility to determine that beyond a shadow of a doubt? And who are you to decline the teacher's request to put it away? They might suspend you even after they find out the flask had tea and no alcohol. You didn't lie, but you didn't cooperate, and you made it into a big deal.Yeah, of course the teacher would be an idiot in that case.

Why would a teacher ask a kid to put a bottle away if that teacher thought there was liquor in it? It's the cafeteria. That's the place kids have liquids out.

To drink.

That would be an even more stupid suspension that the clock suspension.

[ChumpDumper]

There's a difference between "No one thought it was a bomb," and "Everyone knew it wasn't." Initially, no one thought it was suspicious. But after he refused to put it away, it started to be become suspicious. No one thought it was a bomb still, it seems, but people may have thought he wanted to make a big deal about it. Maybe simply because he was proud of his work. Maybe because he knows what kind of reaction a Muslim kid walking around with a device like that would warrant, and it was sort of a thrill. If you think that's silly, you probably don't know what being a minority is like. I can tell you from experience that it's sometimes cool to use stereotypes to your advantage. Being a large black man, I can totally bull my way past some things just by seeming angry and confrontational. Of course, after the police shootings, I wouldn't think of doing that anymore.At no time did anyone think it was a bomb, period.

If they did, then they all were completely derelict in their respective duties by keeping all the kids in that school that had a bomb in it.

You can't have it both ways.

From what I have read from the police, they wanted him to say that he deliberately made it look like a bomb to freak people out and used several officers to interrogate him without his parents to get that out of him.

Ridiculous.

[Chinook]

Yeah, of course the teacher would be an idiot in that case.

Why would a teacher ask a kid to put a bottle away if that teacher thought there was liquor in it? It's the cafeteria. That's the place kids have liquids out.

To drink.

That would be an even more stupid suspension that the clock suspension.

Because the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole and confiscate the bottle. The teacher could believe the student is telling the truth but knows that you aren't supposed to bring those bottles to school. If you have a kid, you should trying sending them to school with a bottle like that and see if they can get away with an "It's tea" retort. It's not that the world is full of idiots (it is, but that's the point), it's that your view on burden of proof in general discourse is skewed.

[ChumpDumper]

Because the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole and confiscate the bottle. The teacher could believe the student is telling the truth but knows that you aren't supposed to bring those bottles to school. If you have a kid, you should trying sending them to school with a bottle like that and see if they can get away with an "It's tea" retort. It's not that the world is full of idiots (it is, but that's the point), it's that your view on burden of proof in general discourse is skewed.Wait, the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole but calls the cops on the kid?

That's being a colossal asshole.

If anyone thinks it's liquor, check. It's extremely easy to tell if a brown liquid is tea or liquor. If a teacher is more worried about the kid's thinking he's an asshole than the kid's actual welfare, he's already an asshole.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html

Cucked by your own link again, David.

lol

Seriously, did you read any of the things you link?
From the Wikipedia article:

The PUMA acronym as originally coined stood for "Party Unity My Ass"

You are incredibly dumb and desperate, David. Just give it up already, you lose.

[Clipper Nation]

It's like if you walked into the cafeteria with a glass flask filled with brown liquid (no labels):

Teacher: Chump, what's that?
You: What is your definition of "that"? Can you use it in a sentence?
T: Why do you have it in an old liquor bottle?
Y: I don't know, why do I have it in an old liquor bottle?
T: Well, can you put it away? It looks suspicious.
Y: This is very important to you. Why are you so emotional about it? lol "suspicious"
T: Look, Chump, put it away, or will have the officer (all schools have them) take it from you.
Y: I'm a faggot and a cuck.
FIFY

[ChumpDumper]

From the Wikipedia article:

The PUMA acronym as originally coined stood for "Party Unity My Ass"

You are incredibly dumb and desperate, David. Just give it up already, you lose.lol message board

I can't believe you tried to pass off a message board as a PAC, David.

You keep cucking yourself.

[Clipper Nation]

lol message board

I can't believe you tried to pass off a message board as a PAC, David.

You keep cucking yourself.
PUMA is a PAC, David. Why can't a PAC have an official message board?

Face it, David: Hillary is a birther and the Democrats are the party of birthers. When you go to the polls on election day, you'll be voting for a birther. By your logic, that makes you a birther.

[Chinook]

At no time did anyone think it was a bomb, period.

It seems so. But that's not the same thing as everyone knowing it wasn't. For a person who loves semantic arguments, you're sure trying to skim over that one.


If they did, then they all were completely derelict in their respective duties by keeping all the kids in that school that had a bomb in it.

Yes, and I don't think anyone in here thinks the school acted like it was a bomb.


You can't have it both ways.

Pretending you have a bomb is illegal even if it's obvious you don't. No one thought it was a bomb the kid had. They did think he was leaving it ambiguous to arouse suspicion. I don't know if he was. But it's very possible, especially given that his father has done stupid things to get attention. You have to understand that the dude's a teenager, and goofy, inconsiderate things are not past teens at all. And people do evocative things all the time to take political stances. Shit, we had a Latino walkout at my high school when I was a junior. Some of my friends took a vow of silence when Bush won the 2004 election (freshman year). I can go on.

None of that makes the kid guilty of doing anything but making a clock and liking it so much he showed it to everyone he met. But the kid could have been a race-baiting asshole who was vocal enough that he and his father were already known to the police to the point that they'd assume he'd be at the center of any controversy at that school. We don't know, and that's what an investigation is for.


From what I have read from the police, they wanted him to say that he deliberately made it look like a bomb to freak people out and used several officers to interrogate him without his parents to get that out of him.

Ridiculous.

Yep, that's ridiculous and illegal, and cops deserve to be heavily reprimanded for that. It's absolutely not okay to violate anyone's constitutional rights, and to try to get a confession out of a minor without his parents of a lawyer there should be punishable by termination, I believe. I don't think I've said anything to contradict that stance. Of course, we'll see if an investigation turns up a different story, however.

[ChumpDumper]

PUMA is a PAC, David. Why can't a PAC have an official message board?

Face it, David: Hillary is a birther and the Democrats are the party of birthers. When you go to the polls on election day, you'll be voting for a birther. By your logic, that makes you a birther.lol OFFICIAL message board

David, you make a new conspiracy with every post.

[Chinook]

Wait, the teacher doesn't want to be an asshole but calls the cops on the kid?

Teacher doesn't want to take it away. Instead they tell you to put it away (allowing you to keep it even knowing it might be alcohol because they trust you). You don't, so they threaten you with confiscation by a bigger authority figure.


If anyone thinks it's liquor, check. It's extremely easy to tell if a brown liquid is tea or liquor.

I said that in the first post. Of course, if it's a "clock" and not "tea", you don't just check. But obviously, this isn't a complete one-to-one here.


If a teacher is more worried about the kid's thinking he's an asshole than the kid's actual welfare, he's already an asshole

It's been a while since you were in school, it seems. If the kid drinking a bit of alcohol but being a good enough student to where the teacher is obviously giving him the benefit of the doubt, then I don't think anyone should be worrying about the student's welfare. It's not a big deal.

[ChumpDumper]

It seems so. But that's not the same thing as everyone knowing it wasn't. For a person who loves semantic arguments, you're sure trying to skim over that one.OK, who thought it was a bomb?



Yes, and I don't think anyone in here thinks the school acted like it was a bomb.So there is no reason for you to pretend anyone did.




Pretending you have a bomb is illegal even if it's obvious you don't. No one thought it was a bomb the kid had. They did think he was leaving it ambiguous to arouse suspicion. I don't know if he was. But it's very possible, especially given that his father has done stupid things to get attention. You have to understand that the dude's a teenager, and goofy, inconsiderate things are not past teens at all. And people do evocative things all the time to take political stances. Shit, we had a Latino walkout at my high school when I was a junior. Some of my friends took a vow of silence when Bush won the 2004 election (freshman year). I can go on. So if the kid just intended it to be a clock, what more did he have to tell them other than it was a clock?


None of that makes the kid guilty of doing anything but making a clock and liking it so much he showed it to everyone he met. But the kid could have been a race-baiting asshole who was vocal enough that he and his father were already known to the police to the point that they'd assume he'd be at the center of any controversy at that school. We don't know, and that's what an investigation is for.So they knew it wasn't a bomb and there was no evidence he was a race baiting asshole. I take issue with your saying the kid was known as a controversial figure by the police. I have seen nothing in the press about the kid's having a history with the police at all.

And if his father was known for this kind of thing, why did every school and police official play directly into what they perceived as his agenda? Surely before turning it over to the city cops, someone at the school could have said "Wait. Call his parents." It's just so simple. This idiocy could have been stopped at every level but everyone involved decided to go full retard and make the situation as bad as possible short of tasing the kid.



Yep, that's ridiculous and illegal, and cops deserve to be heavily reprimanded for that. It's absolutely not okay to violate anyone's constitutional rights, and to try to get a confession out of a minor without his parents of a lawyer there should be punishable by termination, I believe. I don't think I've said anything to contradict that stance. Of course, we'll see if an investigation turns up a different story, however.How would an "investigation" change the fact he was interrogated by multiple policemen without his parents present?

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Teacher doesn't want to take it away. Instead they tell you to put it away (allowing you to keep it even knowing it might be alcohol because they trust you). You don't, so they threaten you with confiscation by a bigger authority figure. That teacher shouldn't be teaching.

And he's a colossal asshole.



I said that in the first post. Of course, if it's a "clock" and not "tea", you don't just check. But obviously, this isn't a complete one-to-one here.Of course anyone can check if it's a clock or tea. You're making this way more complicated than it is.



It's been a while since you were in school, it seems. If the kid drinking a bit of alcohol but being a good enough student to where the teacher is obviously giving him the benefit of the doubt, then I don't think anyone should be worrying about the student's welfare. It's not a big deal.If you don't think a kid's drinking alcohol in the cafeteria isn't a sign that something could be very wrong with that kid's welfare, I don't know what to tell you other than you've completely failed as a teacher.

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lol OFFICIAL message board

David, you make a new conspiracy with every post.
^ David the birther. ^

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^ David the birther. ^lol you can't get one thing right.

:cryofficial message board:cry

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OK, who thought it was a bomb?

No one. And no one but the kid knew it wasn't. Do you really want to keep refusing to acknowledge the difference here? It's boring.


So there is no reason for you to pretend anyone did.

I never did. Seriously, stop this line of reasoning it's wrong, and it's really eliminates a desire to go back and forth with you.


So if the kid just intended it to be a clock, what more did he have to tell them other than it was a clock?

Why he won't put it away, who can verify why it's there. In a legal sense, he never had to say anything. But from a practical sense, he should have answered all of their questions as completely as possible.


So they knew it wasn't a bomb and there was no evidence he was a race baiting asshole. I take issue with your saying the kid was known as a controversial figure by the police. I have seen nothing in the press about the kid's having a history with the police at all.

I never said he was controversial and I never said he was race-baiting. So take your issues somewhere else. I said those things were possible, and that an investigation is needed to get a better sense of what happened. CN has posted quite a few articles attack the common view of this case. Most of them are stupid and baseless. Some of them have information that's not really being discussed in the mainstream media. There could be a completely different story here. Me saying that is not me saying that such a story exists. Rather, it's me saying that people shouldn't jump to conclusions based on partial information. And that's totally what you're doing even if you won't admit it. More importantly, that's what people like Obama and the folks at MIT did. And that's silly.


And if his father was known for this kind of thing, why did every school and police official play directly into what they perceived as his agenda? Surely before turning it over to the city cops, someone at the school could have said "Wait. Call his parents." It's just so simple. This idiocy could have been stopped at every level but everyone involved decided to go full retard and make the situation as bad as possible short of tasing the kid.

And you won't find me saying there wasn't idiocy at every level. That includes the kid, though. One side acting foolishly doesn't prevent the other side from doing the same.


How would an "investigation" change the fact he was interrogated by multiple policemen without his parents present?

Again, this is getting boring. I've said so many times that the police were wrong. Are you incapable of responding without twisting what I said even though it's on the screen right in front of you where you're typing? If you want to troll without actually having a discussion, let me know so I can stop responding and just watch football.


That teacher shouldn't be teaching.

And he's a colossal asshole.

If you don't think a kid's drinking alcohol in the cafeteria isn't a sign that something could be very wrong with that kid's welfare, I don't know what to tell you other than you've completely failed as a teacher.

Eh, again, I think you're out of touch. I've known plenty of people who drank or did worse in school and have gone on to live productive lives. Any teacher worth their salt knows when to let kids slide. Letting a kid openly drink in school is not that time, but defusing the situation while not confiscating the substance may be if the kid is good enough at school and seems healthy.


Of course anyone can check if it's a clock or tea. You're making this way more complicated than it is.

A person CAN check to see if it's a bomb or a clock. But I don't think many would want to look at it that closely if there's doubt.

[Clipper Nation]

:cry Where's the birth certificate? :cry

lol David

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lol Davidlol David -- you're still trying.

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media narrative:

>robotics genius brings a homemade clock to school and is discriminated against because he's a muslim! outrageous!




what actually happened:

>known islamic activist sends his kid to school with a manufactured clock that was literally just taken out of its case and crammed into a pencil box

>not part of any school project

>first teacher he shows it to tells him not to show that around at school because it looks suspicious

>takes it to several classes and brings it out without explaining what it is

>takes it to an english class, clock's alarm goes off, he pulls it out and refuses to explain what it is or why he took it out

>teacher thought he was pulling a bomb hoax prank and told the principal

>principal calls the police, who come and lead him away for a bomb hoax

>dad stops the police from taking his cuffs off so he can do a tragic pose for the media first, before the kid is sent home

[Clipper Nation]

:cry lol me -- I'm still trying to find that birth certificate. :cry

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No one. And no one but the kid knew it wasn't. Do you really want to keep refusing to acknowledge the difference here? It's boring.Actually, they all knew it wasn't. They proved that with their actions.


I never did. Seriously, stop this line of reasoning it's wrong, and it's really eliminates a desire to go back and forth with you.You're saying that there was some kind of uncertainty whether it was a bomb the entire time. There simply wasn't. Everyone involved knew it wasn't a bomb.



Why he won't put it away, who can verify why it's there. In a legal sense, he never had to say anything. But from a practical sense, he should have answered all of their questions as completely as possible.What else was there to say. He said what it was and why he brought it to school. It wasn't the answer they wanted to get out of him so they escalated.



I never said he was controversial and I never said he was race-baiting. So take your issues somewhere else.You made the insinuation, so tatk that somewhere else.


I said those things were possible, and that an investigation is needed to get a better sense of what happened. CN has posted quite a few articles attack the common view of this case. Most of them are stupid and baseless. Some of them have information that's not really being discussed in the mainstream media. There could be a completely different story here. Me saying that is not me saying that such a story exists. Rather, it's me saying that people shouldn't jump to conclusions based on partial information. And that's totally what you're doing even if you won't admit it. More importantly, that's what people like Obama and the folks at MIT did. And that's silly.What revelations are you saying are possible here.

I can't think of any that will change my mind. The school and the police overreacted and continue to act stupidly about thie. Your best argument is that the Muslim kid may have been uppity.


And you won't find me saying there wasn't idiocy at every level. That includes the kid, though. One side acting foolishly doesn't prevent the other side from doing the same.If that kid had the power to arrest and detain the school and law enforcement officials, I would agree.


Again, this is getting boring. I've said so many times that the police were wrong. Are you incapable of responding without twisting what I said even though it's on the screen right in front of you where you're typing? If you want to troll without actually having a discussion, let me know so I can stop responding and just watch football.You made it clear that you think this could all be justified if the Muslim kid was more uppity than has already been reported.


Eh, again, I think you're out of touch. I've known plenty of people who drank or did worse in school and have gone on to live productive lives. Any teacher worth their salt knows when to let kids slide. Letting a kid openly drink in school is not that time, but defusing the situation while not confiscating the substance may be if the kid is good enough at school and seems healthy.That's stupid.

Kids drink in school all the time now. It's best to be cool about it because nothing bad could ever happen.


A person CAN check to see if it's a bomb or a clock. But I don't think many would want to look at it that closely if there's doubt.If there is a doubt, that's when you call the police. That is not what happened in this case. Everyone involved knew it was a clock and not a bomb on sight.

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:cryI never tried to find any birth certificate.

You're confusing me with Donald Trump.

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whoa giant wall of text knock that shit off. i'm reposting mine so it can be seen

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media narrative:

>robotics genius brings a homemade clock to school and is discriminated against because he's a muslim! outrageous!




what actually happened:

>known islamic activist sends his kid to school with a manufactured clock that was literally just taken out of its case and crammed into a pencil box

>not part of any school project

>first teacher he shows it to tells him not to show that around at school because it looks suspicious

>takes it to several classes and brings it out without explaining what it is

>takes it to an english class, clock's alarm goes off, he pulls it out and refuses to explain what it is or why he took it out

>teacher thought he was pulling a bomb hoax prank and told the principal

>principal calls the police, who come and lead him away for a bomb hoax

>dad stops the police from taking his cuffs off so he can do a tragic pose for the media first, before the kid is sent home

[ChumpDumper]

whoa giant wall of text knock that shit off. i'm reposting mine so it can be seenWhat a pussy you are.

[ChumpDumper]

media narrative:

>robotics genius brings a homemade clock to school and is discriminated against because he's a muslim! outrageous!




what actually happened:

>known islamic activist sends his kid to school with a manufactured clock that was literally just taken out of its case and crammed into a pencil box

>not part of any school project

>first teacher he shows it to tells him not to show that around at school because it looks suspicious

>takes it to several classes and brings it out without explaining what it is

>takes it to an english class, clock's alarm goes off, he pulls it out and refuses to explain what it is or why he took it out

>teacher thought he was pulling a bomb hoax prank and told the principal

>principal calls the police, who come and lead him away for a bomb hoax

>dad stops the police from taking his cuffs off so he can do a tragic pose for the media first, before the kid is sent homelol another conspiracy theory

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none of it is conspiracy, i've heard accounts from people who had kids there when it happened and i know a teacher who works at the school

[Clipper Nation]

:cry I'm still trying to find any birth certificate. :cry

:cry I'm confusing Donald Trump with Hillary Clinton. :cry

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none of it is conspiracy, i've heard accounts from people who had kids there when it happened and i know a teacher who works at the schoollol

Of course you do.

:cryI heard:cry

:cryI know:cry

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yup, stop shitposting and contribute or gtfo

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:crySorry, David -- Trump is the only one who announced and carried out a birther investigation.

I know that being cucked so thoroughly has to hurt you, so I will allow you to throw another tantrum.

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yup, stop shitposting and contribute or gtfoAre you acting like you can make anyone do anything here?

lol impotent

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well you just lost your speaking privileges for the day since you can't act with common decency, i might try engaging you again tomorrow but as for now you're done