14 Year Old Muslim Arrested For Bringin A Clock To School

[DMX7]

Kid straight up lies at 0:34 into this video. It wasn't made from scrap and put together.

He said some of the boards were already manufactured.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sorry man, all of this obsessive dissection is happening strictly in the conservative bubble. For libs and most other people, it HAS gone away. Kid hasn't trended since day 1.

And I'm not sure how exactly anyone got "played." The fact remains that a kid got arrested and suspended over a clock in a pencil case that (1) obviously wasn't a bomb, and (2) obviously wasn't being used in a bomb threat.

If anyone got played it those of you who continue to be butthurt a week later just because he got some kudos from famous people.
Kudos for what though? He unscrewed an alarm clock and screwed it into a pencil case. Basic motor skills are nothing to be proud of.

(3)obviously he and his father knew the reaction to his shit "invention" would garner them attention.

[Spurminator]

Kudos for what though? He unscrewed an alarm clock and screwed it into a pencil case. Basic motor skills are nothing to be proud of.

Regardless of how he made it, he got kudos and you guys can't stand it. I'm not defending his craftsmanship. I don't care.


(3)obviously he and his father knew the reaction to his shit "invention" would garner them attention.

If so, they were right. The authorities still had a choice in the matter.

[Spurminator]

As with all conspiracy theories, y'all's narrative seems a little contradictory. His father is a diabolical genius who concocted this entire controversy which he knew would lead to instant celebrity for his son and political gain for himself, but they're also idiots who can't make a homemade clock without simply moving the guts from one container to the other.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Regardless of how he made it, he got kudos and you guys can't stand it. I'm not defending his craftsmanship. I don't care.



If so, they were right. The authorities still had a choice in the matter.
You guys? I don't care about the kudos he's gotten, already said it was a great troll job.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The media and our President look like fools, kudos to Ahmed and his Dad.

[spurraider21]

There's a giant red number display in the image on the left. Where's the clock display for the one on the right?
bombs could have countdown timers with red number displays

[Fabbs]

Have you decided whether his device looks like a bomb yet or are you just afraid to answer?

I predict you will do everything you can not to answer that simple question.
I'm afraid to answer. You have demonstrated explosives expertise. Explosive diarrhea that is.

All thread long you are attempting to push your agenda that in no way shape or form could it be a bomb and how dumb everyone is. Now that info comes out from a bomb expert that it looks very much like some bomb makers have put together, instead of owning up you attempt to change the subject. Not that your twuntiness comes as a suprise to any other posters, it does not. Throw in DarrinS posting the college campus clips where no one thinks it looks like a phone, and you run along as quick as you can.

lol

[HI-FI]

The media and our President look like fools, kudos to Ahmed and his Dad.
tbf, they looked like fools long before Durka Durka and son.

[FkLA]

http://youtu.be/A4KOW92fbSM

A circuit board and a couple of wires=bomb? Should've asked the engineering students imo.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm afraid to answer.lol no shit.

You still haven't answered.

You never will.

What a colossal, flabby pussy you are.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?

[Jacob1983]

Does anyone have a pic of all the stuff the pecker has been given since last week? I saw the one where he was standing by all the stuff Microsoft gave him. LMAO people are dumbasses if they still think this wasn't a troll job.

[Pick of Destiny]

Does anyone have a pic of all the stuff the pecker has been given since last week? I saw the one where he was standing by all the stuff Microsoft gave him. LMAO people are dumbasses if they still think this wasn't a troll job.

You are the dumbass for buying into the conspiracy bullshit. :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

For those supporting the kid...its time to admit it was a hoax..and me thinks his sister put him up to it..they have a history of this shit in their family..and you can't tell me he didn't know his sister was accused of this....like I said he wore that fucking NASA t-shirt as cover....:lmao

'Clock-boy's' sister was suspended for 'bomb' threat


The 17-year-old sister of Muslim “clock boy” Ahmed Mohamed says she too was suspended from school due to a “bomb”-related accusation.
Eyman Mohamed told the Daily Beast during a day-long interview with the family Sept. 17 about an incident where she was accused of wanting to blow up her school.
“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with,” Mohamed told the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/17/man-i-went-viral-my-day-with-ahmed-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.html). “I got suspended and I didn’t do anything about it. And so, when I heard about Ahmed, I was so mad because it happened to me and I didn’t get to stand up, so I’m making sure he’s standing up because it’s not right. So I’m not jealous. I’m kinda like – it’s like he’s standing for me.”
The young girl said her suspension did not take place at MacArthur High School in Irving, Texas. Instead, her punishment came during her first year of middle school when the family moved to the state from New York City.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/clock-boys-sister-was-suspended-for-bomb-threat/#iWSrIcYOYx4cZWsG.99

[DarrinS]

Conspiracy involves planning and collaboration from at least two people. I don't think this was a conspiracy, but might have been a prank.

As a kid, I took things apart to see how they worked. This is what curious kids do who eventually go on to be engineers, etc. So, in that sense, I can relate to Ahmed. Actually, by the time I was Ahmed's age, I could rebuild small engines (but I digress). Today, I'm the parent of a kid Ahmed's age, and I can tell you, they are incredibly tech savvy and can hack and build incredible things. They call themselves "makers" these days. We just referred to it as tinkering back in the day. Anyway, if Ahmed, as he claims, wanted to impress his "engineering teacher" with a disassembled digital clock slapped into a pencil case, that doesn't make sense to me. He's smart enough to know that a teacher who understood electronics would see this for what it was -- the guts of a clock placed in a box. No mods -- not even any mods to the enclosure. I'm not sure what he thought they'd be impressed with. Secondly, he plugged this thing into an outlet in English class. This doesn't make sense to me either. This is the class where the clock beeped and the teacher became alarmed. When asked about why he plugged it in during English class, he said he "wanted to impress all of his teachers". Something is fishy about this. In another interview, he said he was showing it to another student in English class and the alarm when off. This is when the English teacher said "What was that noise?" and that's when Ahmed immediately unplugged the clock. This doesn't sound like he was trying to impress his English teacher, but instead shows that he knew it was inappropriate to have that plugged in during his English class.

It may be that he was just trying to impress his fellow students with the clock and had no idea about all the events that would unfold.

[DarrinS]

I do think all the attention, invites, scholarships, etc. are a bit of a slap in the face to kids who are really creative and actually design and build their own creations.

[DarrinS]

And the kid who says he was once called a "bomb maker" had to have known that his clock-in-a-box may have looked suspicious to the untrained eye. It's naive to think otherwise.

[DarrinS]

Do I think this was some kind of jihadist "dry run"?

No

[Blake]

Do I think this was some kind of jihadist "dry run"?

No

Do you think it was ok for the police to arrest him?

[DarrinS]

Do you think it was ok for the police to arrest him?

If there is a Texas law for possessing a "hoax bomb" and that's what they believed it was, what were they supposed to do?

[Koolaid_Man]

Conspiracy involves planning and collaboration from at least two people. I don't think this was a conspiracy, but might have been a prank.

As a kid, I took things apart to see how they worked. This is what curious kids do who eventually go on to be engineers, etc. So, in that sense, I can relate to Ahmed. Actually, by the time I was Ahmed's age, I could rebuild small engines (but I digress). Today, I'm the parent of a kid Ahmed's age, and I can tell you, they are incredibly tech savvy and can hack and build incredible things. They call themselves "makers" these days. We just referred to it as tinkering back in the day. Anyway, if Ahmed, as he claims, wanted to impress his "engineering teacher" with a disassembled digital clock slapped into a pencil case, that doesn't make sense to me. He's smart enough to know that a teacher who understood electronics would see this for what it was -- the guts of a clock placed in a box. No mods -- not even any mods to the enclosure. I'm not sure what he thought they'd be impressed with. Secondly, he plugged this thing into an outlet in English class. This doesn't make sense to me either. This is the class where the clock beeped and the teacher became alarmed. When asked about why he plugged it in during English class, he said he "wanted to impress all of his teachers". Something is fishy about this. In another interview, he said he was showing it to another student in English class and the alarm when off. This is when the English teacher said "What was that noise?" and that's when Ahmed immediately unplugged the clock. This doesn't sound like he was trying to impress his English teacher, but instead shows that he knew it was inappropriate to have that plugged in during his English class.

It may be that he was just trying to impress his fellow students with the clock and had no idea about all the events that would unfold.

He's confusing the words impress and scare. With this info on his sister it's clear they plotted this....it's a passive -aggressive hoax meant to tow the line...he's lucky they didn't evacuate the school and make things much harder on him. ..I started out giving him a slight benefit of doubt but it's becoming more clearer he plotted this with his sister .. she was previously accused of bomb threats and this kid knew it... he wanted this exact response. ...it's why he wore that NASA shirt..he was playing coy

[Blake]

If there is a Texas law for possessing a "hoax bomb" and that's what they believed it was, what were they supposed to do?



(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly manufactures, sells, purchases, transports, or possesses a hoax bomb with intent to use the hoax bomb to:

(1) make another believe that the hoax bomb is an explosive or incendiary device; or

(2) cause alarm or reaction of any type by an official of a public safety agency or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies.

See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/10/46/46.08#sthash.FEkuQT2r.dpuf


If they believed if it was a hoax, they need to get hoax training. Neither (1) nor (2) happened. It was a wrongful arrest.

[DarrinS]

He's confusing the words impress and scare. With this info on his sister it's clear they plotted this....it's a passive -aggressive hoax meant to tow the line...he's lucky they didn't evacuate the school and make things much harder on him. ..I started out giving him a slight benefit of doubt but it's becoming more clearer he plotted this with his sister .. she was previously accused of bomb threats and this kid knew it... he wanted this exact response. ...it's why he wore that NASA shirt..he was playing coy


I'm trying to ignore his family, for now, and just focus on what Ahmed said he wanted to do. As a piece of technology, a digital clock is completely uninteresting. The basic design hasn't changed much in over 30 years. Most kids that are into electronics nowadays are playing around with single-board computers, digital cameras, video, audio, alternative energy, etc. If he made a solar powered clock, I suppose that might impress a science teacher. Taking the guts out of an existing clock and putting them into a box might impress a science teacher if the student was 7 or 8 yrs old. This is a high school student. There's something wrong with his story.

[Blake]

There's something wrong with his story.

alright we've got a mystery on our hands.

Shaggy, you Velma and Scooby go that way. Daphne and I will head this way towards the van.

[DarrinS]

If they believed if it was a hoax, they need to get hoax training. Neither (1) nor (2) happened. It was a wrongful arrest.

Maybe they do. The "intent" part is what's difficult to ascertain.

[ChumpDumper]

Has anyone heard what Darrin thinks about this?

[DarrinS]

Seems that Chump has no opinion on this subject, seeing as he hasn't posted much about it.

[ChumpDumper]

Seems that Chump has no opinion on this subject, seeing as he hasn't posted much about it.I never claimed to be tired of talking about the subject. I do give you props for agreeing it doesn't look like a bomb.

You just keep coming back, Darrin.

Why?

[DarrinS]

I never claimed to be tired of talking about the subject. I do give you props for agreeing it doesn't look like a bomb.

You just keep coming back, Darrin.

Why?


I didn't really get interested in this until I saw the blog (and video) of the guy reverse engineering the clock. Then, I started to wonder why this kid put the working guts of a clock in a pencil box to "impress his teachers"? What was this kid thinking? Then, other videos and articles came out about his family. The things Mark Cuban said on Bill Maher about the sister giving him answers. Then I started watching interviews with Ahmed. There are things he says in these interviews that just raise other questions. The whole thing is pretty fascinating, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't really get interested in this until I saw the blog (and video) of the guy reverse engineering the clock. Then, I started to wonder why this kid put the working guts of a clock in a pencil box to "impress his teachers"? What was this kid thinking? Then, other videos and articles came out about his family. The things Mark Cuban said on Bill Maher about the sister giving him answers. Then I started watching interviews with Ahmed. There are things he says in these interviews that just raise other questions. The whole thing is pretty fascinating, tbh.So basically he's a 14 year old supervillain.

[DarrinS]

Ahmed said he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why would he think it might look like a threat or suspicious? And, if he thought this, why would he take it to school?

Are those unreasonable questions?

[Ignignokt]

If they believed if it was a hoax, they need to get hoax training. Neither (1) nor (2) happened. It was a wrongful arrest.

a bomb hoax is just an attept at using a prop to appear like a bomb. By all accounts, it looks like it was definately a shitty attempt at trying to pass of a bomb. Tough shits, go back to your cucktainer now.

[Ignignokt]

So basically he's a 14 year old supervillain.

poisoning the well

[ChumpDumper]

Ahmed said he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why would he think it might look like a threat or suspicious? And, if he thought this, why would he take it to school?

Are those unreasonable questions?I think the 14 year old supervillain is 14 years old.

Did you think of all the possible ramifications of your actions when you were 14 years old?

[Ignignokt]

lol no shit.

You still haven't answered.

You never will.

What a colossal, flabby pussy you are.

Do you think it looks like a bomb?

quoting out of context. Strawman fallacy.

[Ignignokt]

I think the 14 year old supervillain is 14 years old.

Di you think of all the possible ramifications of your actions when you were 14 years old?

Strawman fallacy. Poisoning the well. Goal post shifting.

[ChumpDumper]

Strawman fallacy. Poisoning the well. Goal post shifting.Shifting from where, gtown?

We're talking about whether a 14 year old kid should reasonably know every possible ramification of his actions.

A lot of people here seem to think he planned for all of this to happen. I think that's kind of a reach for a 14 year old.

[Blake]

a bomb hoax is just an attept at using a prop to appear like a bomb. By all accounts, it looks like it was definately a shitty attempt at trying to pass of a bomb. Tough shits, go back to your cucktainer now.

Lol by all accounts.

Tough shit that he was never charged with anything, Clouseau. Go back to concocting more cuck fantasy scenarios.

[DarrinS]

I think the 14 year old supervillain is 14 years old.

Did you think of all the possible ramifications of your actions when you were 14 years old?


I think it's extremely ballsy to plug in a clock-in-a-box in English class and have the alarm go off, especially for an introverted, nerdy kid like Ahmed. Why would he do this? I know he said he wanted to "impress all his teachers", but the English teacher seemed to be unaware of the clock until the alarm went off.


And you still didn't answer my previous questions.

[Ignignokt]

Shifting from where, gtown?

We're talking about whether a 14 year old kid should reasonably know every possible ramification of his actions.

Goal post shifting. Argument from Incredulity, Circular reasoning.

[ChumpDumper]

I think it's extremely ballsy to plug in a clock-in-a-box in English class and have the alarm go off, especially for an introverted, nerdy kid like Ahmed. Why would he do this? I know he said he wanted to "impress all his teachers", but the English teacher seemed to be unaware of the clock until the alarm went off.Do you realize there is an entire generation of kids in school that did not live through 9/11, Darrin?

Do you allow for the possibility that a 14 year old kid might not realize that he might scare the piss out of a teacher with a clock in a pencil case who did live though 9/11?

[ChumpDumper]

Goal post shifting. Argument from Incredulity, Circular reasoning.Coming from the living embodiment of the ad hominem.

CROFL

Do you think it looked like a bomb, gtown?

[Blake]

I think it's extremely ballsy to plug in a clock-in-a-box in English class and have the alarm go off, especially for an introverted, nerdy kid like Ahmed. Why would he do this? I know he said he wanted to "impress all his teachers", but the English teacher seemed to be unaware of the clock until the alarm went off.


And you still didn't answer my previous questions.

Yeah, he probably wanted attention for his pencil box clock. Stunning that a kid wants attention for his toy that he put together.

[DarrinS]

Do you realize there is an entire generation of kids in school that did not live through 9/11, Darrin?

Do you allow for the possibility that a 14 year old kid might not realize that he might scare the piss out of a teacher with a clock in a pencil case who did live though 9/11?


Ahmed, himself, said he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why did he think it might seem that way? If he thought that, then why take it to school?

[DarrinS]

Yeah, he probably wanted attention for his pencil box clock. Stunning that a kid wants attention for his toy that he put together.


Again, this is a HS student, not a 4th grader.

[ChumpDumper]

Ahmed, himself, said he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why think it might seem that way? If he thought that, then why take it to school?Why not take it to school if the 14 year old thought he took adequate precautions?

[DarrinS]

Why not take it to school if the 14 year old thought he took adequate precautions?

The FIRST teacher who saw the "clock" gave him some really good advice about his "project". Do you recall what that advice was? Why do you think Ahmed ignored that advice?

[Ignignokt]

Lol by all accounts.

Tough shit that he was never charged with anything, Clouseau. Go back to concocting more cuck fantasy scenarios.

Cuckposting. Appeal to authority.

[ChumpDumper]

The FIRST teacher who saw the "clock" gave him some really good advice about his "project". Do you recall what that advice was? Why do you think Ahmed ignored that advice?He wouldn't be the first 14 year old who ignored the really good advice of an adult.

Do you recall any other instance when a teenager ignored the really good advice of an adult?

[Ignignokt]

Coming from the living embodiment of the ad hominem.

CROFL

Do you think it looked like a bomb, gtown?

Argument from incredulity.

[Ignignokt]

He wouldn't be the first 14 year old who ignored the really good advice of an adult.

Do you recall any other instance when a teenager ignored the really good advice of an adult?

argumentum ad infinitum

[DarrinS]

He wouldn't be the first 14 year old who ignored the really good advice of an adult.

Do you recall any other instance when a teenager ignored the really good advice of an adult?


Sure. Why do you think that teacher advised him not to show it any other teachers?

[Blake]

Again, this is a HS student, not a 4th grader.

Because a 14 year old is so much more mature and diabolically genius compared to a 9 year old.

Why don't you put together a complete working theory from start of the plan to now and put it out here

[ChumpDumper]

Argument from incredulity.Actually it is the repetition of a direct question you never answered.

Do you think it looks like a bomb, gtown?

I just want to know what you think as you seem to consider yourself to be very intelligent.

[Clipper Nation]

So basically he's a 14 year old supervillain.
Or he's just a 14-year-old brat. You're acting like he's 4 years old, not 14.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure. Why do you think that teacher advised him not to show it any other teachers?i thought it was good advice too. We're talking about why Ahmed ignored it. You think it's because he was planning a bomb hoax. We get it.

[ChumpDumper]

Or he's just a 14-year-old brat. You're acting like he's 4 years old, not 14.You're right. Were he acting like a four year old, his behavior would resemble yours more than anything.

[Ignignokt]

Actually it is the repetition of a direct question you never answered.

Do you think it looks like a bomb, gtown?

I just want to know what you think as you seem to consider yourself to be very intelligent.

Argumentum ad infinitum.

Argument from incredulity.

Genetic fallacy.

[Clipper Nation]

You're right.
I always am.

[Blake]

I always am.

your transformation into the cuckservative version of boutons is almost complete

[DarrinS]

i thought it was good advice too. We're talking about why Ahmed ignored it. You think it's because he was planning a bomb hoax. We get it.


Not necessarily. He may have really wanted to impress his teacher. But, plugging it in and having the alarm go off seems like a strange way to impress an English teacher. Wouldn't you agree?

[ChumpDumper]

I always am.You're right, you're four.

[Ignignokt]

You're right. Were he acting like a four year old, his behavior would resemble yours more than anything.

Ad hominem.

[ChumpDumper]

Not necessarily. He may have really wanted to impress his teacher. But, plugging it in and having the alarm go off seems like a strange way to impress an English teacher. Wouldn't you agree?So what do you think was his motive?

[Ignignokt]

your transformation into the cuckservative version of boutons is almost complete

General Cuckposting. Ad hominem.

[Ignignokt]

So what do you think was his motive?

appeal to probability.

[ChumpDumper]

Argumentum ad infinitum.

Argument from incredulity.

Genetic fallacy.lol stonewalling

Do you think it looked like a bomb, gtown?

[ChumpDumper]

appeal to probability.We're just giving opinions here.

What do you think was his motive, gtown?

[Ignignokt]

lol stonewalling

Do you think it looked like a bomb, gtown?

argumentum ad infinitum

Argument from incredulity.

[Clipper Nation]

Just cuck my shit up.
FIFY

[ChumpDumper]

argumentum ad infinitum

Argument from incredulity.Show us what we should be doing here in this discussion, gtown.

[DMX7]

eR30_3F4E3k

[DarrinS]

So what do you think was his motive?


That is THE question. I don't believe he was trying to impress his English teacher. She didn't know his clock existed until it made noise. He was actually showing it to another student. I'm not sure why he lied about this.

[Ignignokt]

We're just giving opinions here.

What do you think was his motive, gtown?

Oppininons masking as facts =Subejctivist fallacy

also onus probandi. Shifting the burden of proof.

[Blake]

Not necessarily. He may have really wanted to impress his teacher. But, plugging it in and having the alarm go off seems like a strange way to impress an English teacher. Wouldn't you agree?

Who said he was trying to impress the English teacher

[Ignignokt]

Show us what we should be doing here in this discussion, gtown.

onus probandi

[DarrinS]

Who said he was trying to impress the English teacher

Ahmed did. He said he wanted to impress all of his teachers.

[Ignignokt]

Who said he was trying to impress the English teacher

Argumentum ad cabroni aka cuckposting.

[ChumpDumper]

That is THE question. I don't believe he was trying to impress his English teacher. She didn't know his clock existed until it made noise. He was actually showing it to another student. I'm not sure why he lied about this.Eh, maybe he intended to show it to the teacher at some point and was showing to the kid first. IIRC he was showing to people through the course of the day.

[Blake]

General Cuckposting. Ad hominem.

Furious retard posting^

[ChumpDumper]

onus probandiIf you have nothing to add to the actual discussion, I'll just let you keep going on your own.

[DarrinS]

Eh, maybe he intended to show it to the teacher at some point and was showing to the kid first. IIRC he was showing to people through the course of the day.

I suppose it's possible. I can't imagine wanting to show that to anyone but a STEM teacher. Even then, if he's really smart, he would've known that it wouldn't impress them. Oh well.

[Ignignokt]

If you have nothing to add to the actual discussion, I'll just let you keep going on your own.

Argumentum ad butthurtdum

[ChumpDumper]

I suppose it's possible. I can't imagine wanting to show that to anyone but a STEM teacher. Even then, if he's really smart, he would've known that it wouldn't impress them. Oh well.Again, I think you are trying to ascribe a rather jaded, middle aged, 9/11 mindset to a 14 year old kid.

[DarrinS]

eR30_3F4E3k


Ok, that was funny. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Argumentum ad butthurtdumAnd there you go....

[DarrinS]

Again, I think you are trying to ascribe a rather jaded, middle aged, 9/11 mindset to a 14 year old kid.

Meh, I was 14 once and I now have a 14 yr old.

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, I was 14 once and I now have a 14 yr old.So consider what actual 14 year olds are like.

[Ignignokt]

So consider what actual 14 year olds are like.

are evil misdeeds outside of the realm of possibility?

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/NATL-Danvers-Mass-Philip-Chism-Colleen-Ritzer-Murder-Rape-Charges-Math-Teacher-232893911.html

[ChumpDumper]

are evil misdeeds outside of the realm of possibility?

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/NATL-Danvers-Mass-Philip-Chism-Colleen-Ritzer-Murder-Rape-Charges-Math-Teacher-232893911.htmlSo now you're saying Ahmed carried out evil misdeeds?

[Blake]

Ahmed did. He said he wanted to impress all of his teachers.

But you just said you don't believe he was trying to impress the English teacher. Make up your mind.

[Ignignokt]

So now you're saying Ahmed carried out evil misdeeds?

strawman. You are limiting the scope of what a 14 yr old is capable of, i'm merely expanding it. If 14 yr olds are capable of evil, they can also be capable of petty to general mischeif.

[ChumpDumper]

strawman. You are limiting the scope of what a 14 yr old is capable of, i'm merely expanding it. If 14 yr olds are capable of evil, they can also be capable of petty to general mischeif.I am asking you directly what you think, gtown.

You have done everything but say what you actually think happened here.

Now you are walking back to suggesting it was general mischief?

Use your words.

[Blake]

strawman.

you're a retard playing with words you don't understand.

[DarrinS]

Who said he was trying to impress the English teacher


Ahmed did. He said he wanted to impress all of his teachers.


But you just said you don't believe he was trying to impress the English teacher. Make up your mind.

Again, I never said I believe he wanted to impress his teachers. That's what he claims.

[DarrinS]

So consider what actual 14 year olds are like.


Yeah, my 14 yr old can actually build things (computers, etc.) and would not be impressed by disassembled clock-in-a-box.

[Spurminator]

eR30_3F4E3k

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, my 14 yr old can actually build things (computers, etc.) and would not be impressed by disassembled clock-in-a-box.How does he build a computer?

[DarrinS]

How does he build a computer?

Why did you assume "he"?

Piecing together compatible components still requires more skill than disassembled clock-in-a-box.

[DarrinS]

lulz





Today, Mohamed’s family announced that they had hired two attorneys to help retrieve the science project from Texas police. However, BuzzFeed reports, police say that they already notified the family that the clock is available for pickup—and has been since last week, when the case against Mohamed was closed.

Mohamed can stop by weekdays between 6 a.m. and 4:45 p.m., when he isn’t making appearances on The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore, as he is tonight.




Still trying to appear persecuted.

http://gawker.com/texas-police-to-ahmed-mohamed-pick-up-your-clock-1732701506

[Koolaid_Man]

So now you're saying Ahmed carried out evil misdeeds?

Chump..stop the bs..that lil dude did this just days after 9-11...ohh he's informed alright....we have a 9-11 memorial every year like clock work and it's a big deal...so even if you didn't witness it personally it permeates everything we do today even the attitudes towards Muslims....which he is...he was old enough to witness and be affected by Bin Ladens death so he is definitely aware of the sensitivity involved.

I no longer give him the benefit of the doubt....he and his sister planned this...they're dad from what I've read is also a rabble rouser...he didn't invent anything at all...and like someone said maybe if he was 7 or 8 you could make the remote claim that it was cool but at 14 almost 15 no fucking way....this lil nikka full of shit :lol

[Blake]

Again, I never said I believe he wanted to impress his teachers. That's what he claims.

Engineering teacher yes. Where did he say he tried to impress the English teacher. Specifically the English teacher.

[Ignignokt]

you're a retard playing with words you don't understand.

ad hominem

[DarrinS]

Engineering teacher yes. Where did he say he tried to impress the English teacher. Specifically the English teacher.

Start from around 0:45


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75pScWQ06Y

[Ignignokt]

I am asking you directly what you think, gtown.

You have done everything but say what you actually think happened here.

Now you are walking back to suggesting it was general mischief?

Use your words.

onus probandi

[ChumpDumper]

Why did you assume "he"? OK, she. He-she. Whatever you got.


Piecing together compatible components still requires more skill than disassembled clock-in-a-box.How so?

[ChumpDumper]

onus probandiYou haven't given an opinion.

Do you have any opinion about anything that happened in this case, gtown?

[DarrinS]

Piecing together compatible components still requires more skill than disassembled clock-in-a-box.


How so?


Wow. Seriously?


Anyone agree with Chump here?

[Blake]

ad hominem

I wasn't making an argument. Just an observation. You're an idiot.

[Ignignokt]

OK, she. He-she. Whatever you got.

How so?

incomplete comparison.

[Ignignokt]

I wasn't making an argument. Just an observation. You're an idiot.

argumentud ad cuckragum

ad hominem

[Blake]

Wow. Seriously?


Anyone agree with Chump here?

Fuck, do you guys really not understand how the question mark works in a sentence?

[ChumpDumper]

Wow. Seriously?


Anyone agree with Chump here?I mean, building a computer isn't much to crow about either. You get stuff and you plug stuff in.

I'm asking you why you think it is much more impressive than taking a clock apart and mounting part of it in a pencil case.

[Ignignokt]

Fuck, do you guys really not understand how the question mark works in a sentence?

False equivocation.

[Ignignokt]

I mean, building a computer isn't much to crow about either. You get stuff and you plug stuff in.

I'm asking you why you think it is much more impressive than taking a clock apart and mounting part of it in a pencil case.

begging the question

[ChumpDumper]

onus probandiI agree that not one of the conspiracy theorist has proved his theory.

[Blake]

argumentud ad cuckragum

ad hominem

Begging the lol

[ChumpDumper]

begging the questionI'm asking for an opinion, just ask I asked for yours multiple times.

I'm amused that you have no stated opinion on this subject at all yet you are following this thread so closely.

[DarrinS]

I mean, building a computer isn't much to crow about either. You get stuff and you plug stuff in.

I'm asking you why you think it is much more impressive than taking a clock apart and mounting part of it in a pencil case.


I know that building a PC from parts isn't something to "crow about" and that's precisely my point. This is something that a LOT of 14 yr olds (and younger) can do. That's why I'm specifically comparing it to disassembled clock-in-a-box.

The "clock" required a screwdriver and the correct sized box.

There is some thinking involved in parting out a PC: compatibility of parts, correct case, cable management, power requirements, performance characteristics, cooling, etc. That's how it's more impressive than disassembled clock-in-a-box, but that is a really low-bar for comparison. That's how unimpressive clock-in-a-box is.


EDIT> And that's why all the knee-jerk adulation is breathtaking.

[Ignignokt]

I'm asking for an opinion, just ask I asked for yours multiple times.

I'm amused that you have no stated opinion on this subject at all yet you are following this thread so closely.

argumentum ad infinitum

[ChumpDumper]

I know that building a PC from parts isn't something to "crow about" and that's precisely my point. This is something that a LOT of 14 yr olds (and younger) can do. That's why I'm specifically comparing it to disassembled clock-in-a-box.

The "clock" required a screwdriver and the correct sized box.

There is some thinking involved in parting out a PC: compatibility of parts, correct case, cable management, power requirements, performance characteristics, cooling, etc. That's how it's more impressive than disassembled clock-in-a-box, but that is a really low-bar for comparison. That's how unimpressive clock-in-a-box is.But for a kid who has never done either, would you allow that it could seem kind of cool?

[Blake]

Start from around 0:45


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75pScWQ06Y

Yeah at the :45 mark he says he plugged it in to show a friend. The English teacher heard the beeping and he says he quickly unplugged it.

So still, nobody saying he was trying to impress the English teacher. Including you.

[ChumpDumper]

argumentum ad infinitumThat doesn't apply as you have yet to state an argument.

Do you not have an opinion about this at all?

[DarrinS]

Yeah at the :45 mark he says he plugged it in to show a friend. The English teacher heard the beeping and he says he quickly unplugged it.

So still, nobody saying he was trying to impress the English teacher. Including you.


Baldy: Is that the teacher you were trying to impress? Was that your engineering teacher?

Baby Einstein: That was a different teacher, but I wanted to impress all of my teachers.

[RandomGuy]

begging the question

Wow, you really don't know what any of those terms means do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Wow, you really don't know what any of those terms means do you?He seems to be just pasting headings from a wikipedia page.

[DarrinS]

But for a kid who has never done either, would you allow that it could seem kind of cool?


Meh, there are news clips of him in his room and he's got circuit boards and computer shit all over the place. He probably CAN actually make something, but he decided (for whatever reason) to make disassembled clock-in-a-box.

[RandomGuy]

That doesn't apply as you have yet to state an argument.

Do you not have an opinion about this at all?

He doesn't. He is just picking random logical terms out of a hat. I would guess to try and cover up some butthurt about being pantsed a few times for sloppy thinking.

[RandomGuy]

He seems to be just pasting headings from a wikipedia page.

Indeed.

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, there are news clips of him in his room and he's got circuit boards and computer shit all over the place. He probably CAN actually make something, but he decided (for whatever reason) to make disassembled clock-in-a-box.Apparently he did that in 20 minutes.

Not cool enough for you, certainly.

[Ignignokt]

Wow, you really don't know what any of those terms means do you?

he's making an assumption without providing supporting evidence. Cry me a river, like in your avatar.

[Ignignokt]

Indeed.

Cuckposting

[DarrinS]

Apparently he did that in 20 minutes.

Not cool enough for you, certainly.


Exactly


EDIT> And he thought 20-min disassembled clock-in-a-box was going to impress his teachers

[Ignignokt]

That doesn't apply as you have yet to state an argument.

Do you not have an opinion about this at all?

IRONY the quote!

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly


EDIT> And he thought 20-min disassembled clock-in-a-box was going to impress his teachersWhy not?


IRONY the quote!I have stated my opinion in this matter.

You haven't.

Do you have an opinion about this at all?

[Ignignokt]

Why not?

I have stated my opinion in this matter.

You haven't.

Do you have an opinion about this at all?

onus probandi

[ChumpDumper]

So now the six year conspiracy depends on the building of a hoax bomb in 20 minutes?

I'm really trying to understand what people are trying to sell here.

[ChumpDumper]

onus probandiI have proved that you have no opinion on this matter and are just trolling.

[RandomGuy]

Cuckposting

:sleep

[RandomGuy]

I have proved that you have no opinion on this matter and are just trolling.

I guess. Never ceases to amaze me that there is no shortage of emotionally twisted mental midgets that feel some need to do stuff like that.

You ever heard about that psychological study they did on internet trolls?

[Ignignokt]

I have proved that you have no opinion on this matter and are just trolling.

IRONY the quote part DEUX!!

[Ignignokt]

I guess. Never ceases to amaze me that there is no shortage of emotionally twisted mental midgets that feel some need to do stuff like that.

You ever heard about that psychological study they did on internet trolls?

Selective outrage. No self awareness.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess. Never ceases to amaze me that there is no shortage of emotionally twisted mental midgets that feel some need to do stuff like that.

You ever heard about that psychological study they did on internet trolls?Yeah, interesting stuff.

I certainly do my share of trolling, but I think a balance can be struck with worthwhile discussion that actually fleshes out an issue if nothing else. Lord knows we've gotten as much factual evidence to this story as we can handle.

When a troll becomes fixated on shitposting to the exclusion of everything else, there might be other problems going on. These totally serious personal vendettas are hilarious to me.

[Blake]

Baldy: Is that the teacher you were trying to impress? Was that your engineering teacher?

Baby Einstein: That was a different teacher, but I wanted to impress all of my teachers.

Neh that's just a general statement. There's a reason you and I both don't believe he was trying to impress the English teacher.

reason being that he clearly wasn't trying.

[DarrinS]

So now the six year conspiracy depends on the building of a hoax bomb in 20 minutes?

I'm really trying to understand what people are trying to sell here.


I don't claim a conspiracy.

If you believe that Ahmed wanted to impress his teachers with 20-min-disassembled-clock-in-a-box that he, himself, thought might look suspicious, then you are not going to be convinced otherwise.

EDIT> But to believe this, you are admitting that you don't think Ahmed is very bright.

[Ignignokt]

Yeah, interesting stuff.

I certainly do my share of trolling, but I think a balance can be struck with worthwhile discussion that actually fleshes out an issue if nothing else. Lord knows we've gotten as much factual evidence to this story as we can handle.

When a troll becomes fixated on shitposting to the exclusion of everything else, there might be other problems going on. These totally serious personal vendettas are hilarious to me.

Delusional. Lack of Self Awareness and detecting irony in own statements. Probable low level -low grade narcissist.

[DarrinS]

Neh that's just a general statement. There's a reason you and I both don't believe he was trying to impress the English teacher.

reason being that he clearly wasn't trying.


"I wanted to impress all of my teachers."

Am I misinterpreting what he said?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't claim a conspiracy.

If you believe that Ahmed wanted to impress his teachers with 20-min-disassembled-clock-in-a-box that he, himself, thought might look suspicious, then you are not going to be convinced otherwise.

EDIT> But to believe this, you are admitting that you don't think Ahmed is very bright.Given all you know and have said, what do you claim?


Delusional. Lack of Self Awareness and detecting irony in own statements. Probable low level -low grade narcissist.Personal vendetta confirmed.

[Blake]

"I wanted to impress all of my teachers."

Am I misinterpreting what he said?

You're reading too much into it

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, interesting stuff.

I certainly do my share of trolling, but I think a balance can be struck with worthwhile discussion that actually fleshes out an issue if nothing else. Lord knows we've gotten as much factual evidence to this story as we can handle.

When a troll becomes fixated on shitposting to the exclusion of everything else, there might be other problems going on. These totally serious personal vendettas are hilarious to me.

Yeah, it is a bit like watching a fascinating bug. Malfunctions of the brain can be fascinating.

Here is an interesting book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat". by Oliver Sacks , a neurosurgeon.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Who-Mistook-Wife-ebook/dp/B00BBMNEA4

I recommend this book to anyone who finds the topic of the brain interesting

[Chinook]

I wasn't making an argument. Just an observation. You're an idiot.

Yeah, I swear people have no idea what that actually means.

[Ignignokt]

Yeah, it is a bit like watching a fascinating bug. Malfunctions of the brain can be fascinating.

Here is an interesting book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat". by Oliver Sacks , a neurosurgeon.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Who-Mistook-Wife-ebook/dp/B00BBMNEA4

Off topic. Ad hominem, general fart sniffery.

[ChumpDumper]

Off topic. Ad hominem, general fart sniffery.Irony alert.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

Here it is.



They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.

They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:

Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

[RandomGuy]

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/140214_CDESK_MachiavellianTraits.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg

quantified.

[spurraider21]

Do you realize there is an entire generation of kids in school that did not live through 9/11, Darrin?

Do you allow for the possibility that a 14 year old kid might not realize that he might scare the piss out of a teacher with a clock in a pencil case who did live though 9/11?
Except Ahmed is aware of it. He said his friends asked him if bin laden was his uncle and why he did 9/11. Ahmed also said he had been called a terrorist before

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, I swear people have no idea what that actually means.

Most don't. PopTech couldn't tell the difference between ad hominem and mere insult either. Drove him nuts when insulted him, then pointed out he was using the term wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

Except Ahmed is aware of it. He said his friends asked him if bin laden was his uncle and why he did 9/11Sure, but aware to what extent? The conspiracy theorists seem so think Ahmed has a really nuanced understanding of attitudes formed by 9/11 to the extent that he could fully exploit them to his personal gain or at least serve his political agenda while acting ambiguously enough to get away with it. Am I getting this right or am i missing something?

[Chinook]

Except Ahmed is aware of it. He said his friends asked him if bin laden was his uncle and why he did 9/11. Ahmed also said he had been called a terrorist before

This thread has run its course. I think we all agree now that this situation is very gray. People are keen to say who's more at fault when we should be concerned about fixing all of the problems. Police messed up. School didn't handle it the best way. Ahmed was either naive or mischievous. Society jumped the gun. This went wrong for a lot of different reasons, and this type of thing won't be prevented if we don't deal with all of them.

[Trill Clinton]

ahmed living rent free

[Ignignokt]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

Here it is.

Lel when guy that disagree with me do it bad, when guys that agree with me do it, good!

[Ignignokt]

ahmed living rent free

Darren Wilson living rent free

[Ignignokt]

Sure, but aware to what extent? The conspiracy theorists seem so think Ahmed has a really nuanced understanding of attitudes formed by 9/11 to the extent that he could fully exploit them to his personal gain or at least serve his political agenda while acting ambiguously enough to get away with it. Am I getting this right or am i missing something?


poisoning the well. Using pejoratives to create an ad hominem attack.

[Trill Clinton]

Darren Wilson living rent free

this doesn't make a lick of sense but you win, doggy! i'm too blessed to be stressed! peace!

[Ignignokt]

this doesn't make a lick of sense but you win, doggy! i'm too blessed to be stressed! peace!

just mocking you, cool cat.

[ChumpDumper]

poisoning the well. Using pejoratives to create an ad hominem attack.I am describing people like these:

http://jezebel.com/a-roundup-of-conspiracy-theories-about-ahmed-mohameds-c-1732579692

If you feel I am describing you or someone else here feels I am describing him, that is not my problem.

Do you have an opinion about the situation, gtown, or are you just going to paste some more Wikipedia headings?

[Ignignokt]

I am describing people like these:

http://jezebel.com/a-roundup-of-conspiracy-theories-about-ahmed-mohameds-c-1732579692

If you feel I am describing you or someone else here feels I am describing him, that is not my problem.

Do you have an opinion about the situation, gtown, or are you just going to paste some more Wikipedia headings?

95k troll post with no substantive arguments and name calling.. nope that doesn't describe me.

[DMX7]

Didn't ignignokt tell you?

He goes to UNT law school... gotta show off dem latin legal terms to earn dat street cred, playazzz.

[ChumpDumper]

95k troll post with no substantive arguments and name calling.. nope that doesn't describe me.How would you describe yourself on this forum, gtown?

[Ignignokt]

How would you describe yourself on this forum, gtown?

less invested in forum e cred than you

[ChumpDumper]

less invested in forum e cred than youAre you sure about that? Because to me, it seems that you are kind of bitter that more people don't acknowledge your intelligence in the amount or ways that you would like.

[DarrinS]

Sure, but aware to what extent? The conspiracy theorists seem so think Ahmed has a really nuanced understanding of attitudes formed by 9/11 to the extent that he could fully exploit them to his personal gain or at least serve his political agenda while acting ambiguously enough to get away with it. Am I getting this right or am i missing something?


Another conspiracy theory is that Islamophobic teachers, administrators, and police in Texas (it's always Texas) conspired to humiliate and persecute a bright, young inventor because he is a Muslim. And that this NEVER would have happened if he wasn't a boy with brown skin named Ahmed.

[clambake]

the kid deliberately trolled the intended.

and you took the bait. the intended are still taking the bait.







like clockwork.

[ChumpDumper]

Another conspiracy theory is that Islamophobic teachers, administrators, and police in Texas (it's always Texas) conspired to humiliate and persecute a bright, young inventor because he is a Muslim.I don't think they conspired to do that at all. I would describe it as cascading overreactions. Islamophobia may or may not have had something to do with it. It's not like Ahmed hadn't experienced Islamophobia before.

No collaboration between parties would be necessary for all to overreact.

[DarrinS]

the kid deliberately trolled the intended.

and you took the bait. the intended are still taking the bait.







like clockwork.


I see what you did there. :lol

[DarrinS]

I don't think they conspired to do that at all. I would describe it as cascading overreactions. Islamophobia may or may not have had something to do with it. It's not like Ahmed hadn't experienced Islamophobia before.

No collaboration between parties would be necessary for all to overreact.


But Texas is a red state full of white, gun felatin', bible-thumping, hetero males. What else did we think was going to happen to a brown kid with a weird name and strange-looking parents? He had no chance when he brought that time machine to school -- what with all it's electric gizmos and what not. Did we really expect them fellers in Texas to understand the brilliant invention presented in that pencil case? Not a chance. This kid deserves better -- something like a full ride to MIT or Stanford and guaranteed 6-figure starting salary at Google or Facebook.

[ChumpDumper]

But Texas is a red state full of white, gun felatin', bible-thumping, hetero males. What else did we think was going to happen to a brown kid with a weird name and strange-looking parents? He had no chance when he brought that time machine to school -- what with all it's electric gizmos and what not. Did we really expect them fellers in Texas to understand the brilliant invention presented in that pencil case? Not a chance. This kid deserves better -- something like a full ride to MIT or Stanford and guaranteed 6-figure starting salary at Google or Facebook.Talk about overreacting.

I think it could have easily happened to a white kid in another state.

[m>s]

Darren Wilson living rent free
:lmao and George Zimmerman tbh. One of these days I'm going to screen cap all of his tweets and use them as throwaway responses to shitposts by the coon crew

[m>s]

Talk about overreacting.

I think it could have easily happened to a white kid in another state.
White kids get suspended for chewing a pop tart into the shape of a gun and playing Cowboys and Indians.

[m>s]

the kid deliberately trolled the intended.

and you took the bait. the intended are still taking the bait.







like clockwork.
You mean his rabble rousing Islamist father who should be deported. Using the kid to push a political agenda.

[ChumpDumper]

White kids get suspended for chewing a pop tart into the shape of a gun and playing Cowboys and Indians.Yes, that too was an overreaction.

[m>s]

Yes, that too was an overreaction.
Apparently not because they still haven't been able to get him reinstated or clear his record last I heard. Somebody had time to examine all of the evidence and still decided to crucify the kid.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean his rabble rousing Islamist father who should be deported. Using the kid to push a political agenda.This is one of the conspiracy theorists to which I was referring, Darrin.

[m>s]

This is one of the conspiracy theorists to which I was referring, Darrin.
This must be one of the cucks gtown was referring to

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently nut because they still haven't been able to get him reinstated or clear his record last I heardHe's been suspended from school for two and a half years?

I doubt that.

I'm sure he was back in school after a couple of days.

[Ignignokt]

He's been suspended from school for two and a half years?

I doubt that.

I'm sure he was back in school after a couple of days.

argument from incredulity

[m>s]

I think they did let him back in school but refused to remove the incident from his permanent record like the kid is some sort of terrorist

[Chinook]

argument from incredulity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qauCP9qzRrQ

[ChumpDumper]

argument from incredulityYeah, it's an actual fact he was only suspended for two days, genius.

I'm sorry, does mocking you make you angry?

[Ignignokt]

Yeah, it's an actual fact he was only suspended for two days, genius.

I'm sorry, does mocking you make you angry?

appeal to emotion

[ChumpDumper]

I think they did let him back in school but refused to remove the incident from his permanent record like the kid is some sort of terrorist:cryi think.:cry

Then why did you say he was never reinstated?

[Ignignokt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qauCP9qzRrQ

appeal from shitty copyright violating chink rigged movie clip from youtube.

[ChumpDumper]

appeal to emotionStating a fact is an appeal to emotion?

I'm sorry for you.

[Ignignokt]

:cryi think.:cry

Then why did you say he was never reinstated?

continuum fallacy. trying to invalidate an agrument for being imprecise.

[ChumpDumper]

continuum fallacy. trying to invalidate an agrument for being imprecise.Spelling error.

How do you know he was being merely imprecise?

Prove it.

[Ignignokt]

Stating a fact is an appeal to emotion?

I'm sorry for you.

psychologyzing, no argument.

[Chinook]

appeal from shitty copyright violating chink rigged movie clip from youtube.

I concur. Ergo, let us post concordantly vis a vis this statement.

[ChumpDumper]

psychologyzing, no argument.I agree you have no argument.

You never have.

I simply asked you another question.

[Ignignokt]

Spelling error.

How do you know he was being merely imprecise?

Prove it.

what was spelled wrong? argument? meh typo.

Appeal to spelling bee prowess.

[Ignignokt]

I concur. Ergo, let us post concordantly vis a vis this statement.

Jumping in like a stupid chink midstream in an argument and not understanding the dynamic and context of the whole argument.

[ChumpDumper]

what was spelled wrong?You still can't see it?

[ChumpDumper]

Jumping in like a stupid chink midstream in an argument and not understanding the dynamic and context of the whole argument.What's with the racial epithets?

Is that how things are done at your school?

[DisAsTerBot]

Jumping in like a stupid chink midstream in an argument and not understanding the dynamic and context of the whole argument.

lmao. context= internet vendetta

[Ignignokt]

What's with the racial epithets?

Is that how things are done at your school?

off topic

[ChumpDumper]

off topicI agree that your racial epithets are off topic.

So why do you use them?

[Ignignokt]

lmao. context= internet vendetta

argument fail. appeal to alias or samefagging by using different alts after getting "buttrekt.

strawman. Misquoting and arguing against a false premise. The opponent said "context of the whole argument" not just "context".

[ChumpDumper]

lmao. context= internet vendetta:cryOff topic!:cry

[Chinook]

Jumping in like a stupid chink midstream in an argument and not understanding the dynamic and context of the whole argument.

Lol. I've been here and said my piece. If anything, you're keeping this thread moving like a kid poking a dead squirrel with a stick.

There's no context to this argument anymore. You and Chump just keep squirting each other with substance-less posts. I can understand calling out fallacies to troll the folks who always try to take the intellectual high ground. But at this point, it's just funny to laugh at how off base your Internet refereeing has become.

[Ignignokt]

:cryOff topic!:cry

No argument. Off topic. argumentum ad toronius photographus

[ChumpDumper]

No argument. Off topic. argumentum ad toronius photographusBut why do you use the racial epithets?

[DisAsTerBot]

lol the ole "one of your alts" defense. sorry gtown, i dont have any alts. How many alts besides gtown do you have?

[Chinook]

:cryOff topic!:cry

Argumentum ex butthurtia

[Ignignokt]

Lol. I've been here and said my piece. If anything, you're keeping this thread moving like a kid poking a dead squirrel with a stick.

There's no context to this argument anymore. You and Chump just keep squirting each other with substance-less posts. I can understand calling out fallacies to troll the folks who always try to take the intellectual high ground. But at this point, it's just funny to laugh at how off base your Internet refereeing has become.

wishful thinking

[Ignignokt]

lol the ole "one of your alts" defense. sorry gtown, i dont have any alts. How many alts besides gtown do you have?

You seem believable, anonymous dude.

[ChumpDumper]

Argumentum ex butthurtiaIt's true, I don't know why he would go after you.

Did you hurt his feelings?

[DarrinS]

lolz

"I can't wait to get my clock back & take it to the #WhiteHouse to show BarackObama the invite is an honor, looking forward to meeting you!" --Ahmed Mohamed


Secret Service: "We'll just go ahead and hold that clock for you, Ahmed."

[Ignignokt]

But why do you use the racial epithets?

argumentum ad infinitum

[DisAsTerBot]

You seem believable, anonymous dude.

you seem like a fun guy :tu

[ChumpDumper]

argumentum ad infinitumThere is no argument here.

Just a question for you.

Why do you use racial epithets?

[Ignignokt]

It's true, I don't know why he would go after you.

Did you hurt his feelings?

argumentum de support groupum menstuatum

[Ignignokt]

There is no argument here.

Just a question for you.

Why do you use racial epithets?

off topic. Argumentum ad infinitum.

[ChumpDumper]

argumentum de support groupum menstuatumI'm just trying to find out what gets you to the point where you spend an entire day pasting these terms.

Have you found your spelling error yet?

[ChumpDumper]

off topic. Argumentum ad infinitum.Does it make you feel better when you use racial epithets?

[Chinook]

lolz

"I can't wait to get my clock back & take it to the #WhiteHouse to show Barack (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15060)Obama the invite is an honor, looking forward to meeting you!" --Ahmed Mohamed

Secret Service: "We'll just go ahead and hold that clock for you, Ahmed."

I'd lol so hard if that happened.

[DMX7]

Argumentum ad nauseam

[Chinook]

Argumentum ad nauseam

Argumentum ad veritas.

[Ignignokt]

Does it make you feel better when you use racial epithets?

Fishing for absurd arguments and petty squabbles. Off topic. argumentum infinitum.

[Silver&Black]

Secret Service: "We'll just go ahead and hold that clock for you, Ahmed."

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Fishing for absurd arguments and petty squabbles. Off topic. argumentum infinitum.So you're saying you would make an absurd argument for your use of racial epithets.

Everything about you seems pretty petty tbh. Your latest forum cop shtick is my evidence. Feel free to make an argument against that.

[Blake]

lolz

"I can't wait to get my clock back & take it to the #WhiteHouse to show BarackObama the invite is an honor, looking forward to meeting you!" --Ahmed Mohamed


Secret Service: "We'll just go ahead and hold that clock for you, Ahmed."

I'm sure it'll get screened at the white house. And the airport.

[Ignignokt]

So you're saying you would make an absurd argument for your use of racial epithets.

Everything about you seems pretty petty tbh. Your latest forum cop shtick is my evidence. Feel free to make an argument against that.

tl;dr. possibly argumentum ad infinitum. I no kerrrr

[ChumpDumper]

tl;dr. possibly argumentum ad infinitum. I no kerrrrYou've cared all day.

The evidence is here for all to see.

[Ignignokt]

You've cared all day.

The evidence is here for all to see.

95k

[ChumpDumper]

95kWhat does that have to do with your caring?

[Silver&Black]

I'm sure it'll get screened at the white house. And the airport.

Fucking Islamophobes....

[Blake]

Fucking Islamophobes....

Let's wait to see if he gets arrested before we jump that gun

[m>s]

:cryi think.:cry

Then why did you say he was never reinstated?
It was a mistake, I can't recall every detail of articles I read 2-3 days ago. I read about 100 articles per day

[ChumpDumper]

It was a mistake, I can't recall every detail of articles I read 2-3 days ago. I read about 100 articles per dayDid you even know it happened in 2013?

[m>s]

Did you even know it happened in 2013?

Attemp to shift topic of discussion.

Stop that question shit, point stands.

[Silver&Black]

Let's wait to see if he gets arrested before we jump that gun

I will :lol if bomb-sniffing dogs are at the White House that day...

[ChumpDumper]

Attemp to shift topic of discussion.The topic of the discussion certainly wasn't the pop tart kid.



Stop that question shit, point stands.There is maybe one point left from your statement and that isn't even clear at this point. The rest was proved to be bullshit.

[ChumpDumper]

I will :lol if bomb-sniffing dogs are at the White House that day...Why wouldn't bomb sniffing dogs be there every day?

[Silver&Black]

Why wouldn't bomb sniffing dogs be there every day?

You're right...

What I meant to say is this:

I will :lol if the media gets video footage of the bomb-sniffing dogs examining the case young Ahmed brings with him.

I mean, after all, all you have to do is look at the case and tell it's not a bomb...amirite Chump?

[ChumpDumper]

You're right...

What I meant to say is this:

I will :lol if the media gets video footage of the bomb-sniffing dogs examining the case young Ahmed brings with him.Why would Ahmed be exempt from any screening of everything he is carrying? I'm sure everything everyone brings in is screened. It's the White House, not a high school.


I mean, after all, all you have to do is look at the case and tell it's not a bomb...amirite Chump?Opened? Pretty much. What part of that could possibly explode?

[Silver&Black]

Why would Ahmed be exempt from any screening of everything he is carrying?

No need for bomb-sniffing dogs Chump. Anybody can just look at that and automatically know it's an ordinary time piece.

The entire "it doesn't look like a bomb" stuff now is just laughable. Well....It sure as hell doesn't look like a clock either. If you showed that picture to a million people and asked, "What does look like? A bomb or a clock?"

95%+ will answer bomb. Even you...

BTW...I don't know if this has already been posted in this thread. But did you read that the kid's sister was suspended from school 3 years ago for a "bomb threat"? This shit is just getting fishy now...

[ChumpDumper]

No need for bomb-sniffing dogs Chump. Anybody can just look at that and automatically know it's an ordinary time piece.

The entire "it doesn't look like a bomb" stuff now is just laughable. Well....It sure as hell doesn't look like a clock either. If you showed that picture to a million people and asked, "What does look like? A bomb or a clock?"

95%+ will answer bomb. Even you...I stated why it doesn't look like a bomb to me.

Does it look like a bomb to you?

What is supposed to explode?


BTW...I don't know if this has already been posted in this thread. But did you read that the kid's sister was suspended from school 3 years ago for a "bomb threat"? This shit is just getting fishy now...It has already been posted and you got the year wrong.

So do you now believe this is a conspiracy involving the family?

[Ignignokt]

I stated why it doesn't look like a bomb to me.

Does it look like a bomb to you?

What is supposed to explode?

It has already been posted and you got the year wrong.

So do you now believe this is a conspiracy involving the family?

continuum fallacy

[Silver&Black]

I stated why it doesn't look like a bomb to me.

Does it look like a clock to you Chump? Doesn't look like any clock I've ever seen before....

[Ignignokt]

I stated why it doesn't look like a bomb to me.

Does it look like a bomb to you?

What is supposed to explode?

It has already been posted and you got the year wrong.

So do you now believe this is a conspiracy involving the family?

appeal to incredulity

[ChumpDumper]

continuum fallacyHey, there you go caring again.


Does it look like a clock to you Chump? Doesn't look like any clock I've ever seen before....Sure, it looks like a clock that has been taken out of its case and put in a pencil case. It doesn't look like a bomb since there is nothing that looks like it would explode.

Does it look like a bomb to you?

If it does, what part do you think looks like it would explode?