Raymond Green is overrated AF

[dabom]

:lol

[SAGirl]

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[daslicer]

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I'll give him this he's great at being a clown. He might have a future in comedy.

[Harry Callahan]

I hope gaymond gets kicked in the testicles so hard he'll become an involuntary tranny.

[DMC]

I'll give him this he's great at being a clown. He might have a future in comedy.
Made me laugh when he was suspended and basically cost his team a ring.

[Ice009]

Made me laugh when he was suspended and basically cost his team a ring.

lol. I said it at the time, that he may have cost his team the Championship. I still thought they only had 10% chance of losing it even with his suspension, but fortunately, the laugh was on Green. Complete and utter idiot trying to get away with the same thing multiple times, especially after they were looking at him more closely for doing it previously in the playoffs. Draymond and his team got exactly what they deserved.

[BillMc]

Made me laugh when he was suspended and basically cost his team a ring.


lol. I said it at the time, that he may have cost his team the Championship. I still thought they only had 10% chance of losing it even with his suspension, but fortunately, the laugh was on Green. Complete and utter idiot trying to get away with the same thing multiple times, especially after they were looking at him more closely for doing it previously in the playoffs. Draymond and his team got exactly what they deserved.

All true.

Hindsight being 20/20 the Dubs three weaknesses were: 1) Curry is injury prone 2) No matter how good, they're still a jump shooting team and cold streaks can cost you games 3) Draymond is unhinged and could cost his team when it matters.

As good as they were it's amazing that all 3 came back to bite them in the ass. Weirdly enough, the fact that they blew a chance at history doesn't really seem to (at least publicly) bother them because they won the Durant sweepstakes.

I think they'll win a title or possibly two in the next 5 years, but doubt very much they're going to go on a massive multi-title run. Too injury prone among other things. Spurs have a damn good chance to bring back another LOB if they keep Kawhi and LMA together and Pop coaching.

Some compare Draymond to Dennis Rodman. But the Worm (when engaged) was crazy like a fox, while Draymond is crazy like a fool. Rodman would bait others into mistakes, Draymond always seems to be at risk to BE the baited, not the baiter.

[cutewizard]

Anyone here watched the golden state vs toronto canada series game??

[cutewizard]

the warriors do not seem to be that strong this early.....

[Spurs9]

Looks like every team is going to be going hard at that Warriors team every night :lol

[daslicer]

All true.

Some compare Draymond to Dennis Rodman. But the Worm (when engaged) was crazy like a fox, while Draymond is crazy like a fool. Rodman would bait others into mistakes, Draymond always seems to be at risk to BE the baited, not the baiter.

The Rodman comparisons are inane. I always laugh whenever there is a loudmouth crazy defense player and the media anoints that player as the next Rodman. I heard the same thing about Artest several years ago when the media would scream "He's just like Rodman." What most people don't realize is Rodman was skilled in mind games and psychological warfare. He knew when to throw a cheapshot and when not to, and how to cover up a dirty play very well. He also knew what his opponents triggers were emotionally. Rodman didn't talk a lot of trash but he made sure when he said something that it would make his opponents blood boil. Rodman to me was the NBA's version of the Joker. Overall mentally Rodman was a very calculative person. Draymond has none of the qualities Rodman had. Draymond personality wise reminds me a lot of Gary Payton in the sense that he runs his mouth non stop and talks a lot of shit.

[DMC]

All true.

Hindsight being 20/20 the Dubs three weaknesses were: 1) Curry is injury prone 2) No matter how good, they're still a jump shooting team and cold streaks can cost you games 3) Draymond is unhinged and could cost his team when it matters.

As good as they were it's amazing that all 3 came back to bite them in the ass. Weirdly enough, the fact that they blew a chance at history doesn't really seem to (at least publicly) bother them because they won the Durant sweepstakes.

I think they'll win a title or possibly two in the next 5 years, but doubt very much they're going to go on a massive multi-title run. Too injury prone among other things. Spurs have a damn good chance to bring back another LOB if they keep Kawhi and LMA together and Pop coaching.

Some compare Draymond to Dennis Rodman. But the Worm (when engaged) was crazy like a fox, while Draymond is crazy like a fool. Rodman would bait others into mistakes, Draymond always seems to be at risk to BE the baited, not the baiter.
Pretty sure Green isn't going to grab 30 boards a night. Dennis was insane (literally and figuratively).

[Kawhitstorm]

Pretty sure Green isn't going to grab 30 boards a night. Dennis was insane (literally and figuratively).

Not to mention Rodman played in an era where flagrant fouls didn't exist.:wakeup

[ElNono]

:lmao another T in a blowout loss

:lmao system player carried to olympic gold

:lmao no Bogut to hide his ass now

[ElNono]

:lol damn, even Mozgov dominating this mouthbreather

[SAGirl]

wow Lakers 75/ GS 58 with 7:45 to go in the 3rd Q.... If only Lakers were better on defense...

But the other side of the coin... 75 points for the Lakers with so much still to go...
that GSW defense though.

[peacemaker885]

its the coach. Kerr slowly loosing the team.

[TheDoctor]

12-2 run :lol Fakers

[ElNono]

its the coach. Kerr slowly loosing the team.

don't put it on Kerr... Bogut was making the turd shine, tbh.... can't believe this guy was DPOY candidate :lol

[ElNono]

wow Lakers 75/ GS 58 with 7:45 to go in the 3rd Q.... If only Lakers were better on defense...

But the other side of the coin... 75 points for the Lakers with so much still to go...
that GSW defense though.

Lakers still up 10 with 3 mins to go in the 3rd, and Dubs will probably still win this game... just saying DeJuan Green continually getting exposed now that daddy bogut isn't there to hold his hand, tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

its the coach. Kerr slowly loosing the team.

How is it Kerr's fault that his front office gutted their team to bring in some faggy beta loser who's redundant with their stars?

[SAGirl]

Lakers still up 10 with 3 mins to go in the 3rd, and Dubs will probably still win this game... just saying DeJuan Green continually getting exposed now that daddy bogut isn't there to hold his hand, tbh...

Definitely I was lamenting the fact that I knew the Lakers would bomb on defense and not be able to hold the lead. The point you made was well made with still over 7 minutes to go in the 3rd Q, the Lakers already had 75 points... that was insane bad defense from GSW.

Truly I don't think they have it in the playoffs, they go through phases where they can't stop anybody... and Dworst? Kevon Looney playing better than him.

[TheDoctor]

:lmao Randle destroying and exposing Raymond

[ElNono]

:lol they can't stop anybody inside... Pachulia is terrible too...

[TimDunkem]

LMAO That last shot. :lol

[TheDoctor]

Man this Lakers team could be very good in the near future once those guys mature. Lots of talent and very well coached contrary to Milwaukee.

[james evans]

you guys are now seeing 2 things this season. You are seeing Green's defense get exposed without Speight/Ezili/Bogut helping his ass and you are seeing why I have said, "there is only one ball" all fucking summer. KD signing to the Warriors was a blessing in disguise to the Spurs and I was the only one to see it. While most of you fak ass fans thought the Warriors were going to go 79-3, I knew with the addition of West/Zaza/Durant they were gonna be fucked in the paint. but hey, I know ball.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol Fatass donkey!

[james evans]

:lol they can't stop anybody inside... Pachulia is terrible too...
No shit.

[ElNono]

you guys are now seeing 2 things this season. You are seeing Green's defense get exposed without Speight/Ezili/Bogut helping his ass and you are seeing why I have said, "there is only one ball" all fucking summer. KD signing to the Warriors was a blessing in disguise to the Spurs and I was the only one to see it. While most of you fak ass fans thought the Warriors were going to go 79-3, I knew with the addition of West/Zaza/Durant they were gonna be fucked in the paint. but hey, I know ball.

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[SAGirl]

Man this Lakers team could be very good in the near future once those guys mature. Lots of talent and very well coached contrary to Milwaukee.

And all very young, in the same timeline. ... they will be trouble.

[ducks]

No three for curry

[SAGirl]

you guys are now seeing 2 things this season. You are seeing Green's defense get exposed without Speight/Ezili/Bogut helping his ass and you are seeing why I have said, "there is only one ball" all fucking summer. KD signing to the Warriors was a blessing in disguise to the Spurs and I was the only one to see it. While most of you fak ass fans thought the Warriors were going to go 79-3, I knew with the addition of West/Zaza/Durant they were gonna be fucked in the paint. but hey, I know ball.
Keep posting dude. I saw your point too and posted something similar (about the redundancy of them adding more scoring, something they were already good at), but not with your conviction. :tu

[SAGirl]

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/61415134.jpg

^^
That Harlem?:lol

[aussie91]

The Warriors should have kept Bogut and traded Iggy Draymond was supposed to be able to play Center but is now getting exposed

[99 Problems]

I knew the Bogut loss was gunna hurt. That 10-15 a game of quality D is hard to replace and you thro in the other bigs and gut ya bench like Barbosa..... Plus don't underestimate Walton factor. LIGHT YEARS to the season end but hey why would anyone help out with a big man trade just to help out this lot.

[TheDoctor]

The Warriors should have kept Bogut and traded Iggy Draymond was supposed to be able to play Center but is now getting exposed

Iggy bulletproofed himself by going to Durant's meeting :lol

For now.

[jbspurs]

Warriors fans after they blowout Clippers - Warriors in Mid season form already, nobody can beat them...After opening lost to Spurs- Warriors have to many new players they need time... After blowout win against OKC- Bring on the Spurs!! After lost to Lakers- Refs killed the Warriors... SMH!

[spursistan]

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:lmao

[james evans]

I knew the Bogut loss was gunna hurt. That 10-15 a game of quality D is hard to replace and you thro in the other bigs and gut ya bench like Barbosa..... Plus don't underestimate Walton factor. LIGHT YEARS to the season end but hey why would anyone help out with a big man trade just to help out this lot.
They may not have a choice. I've been questioning a lot of NBA trades for decades now. It's to the point that I believe some trades happen because the league forces garbage teams to give their best players to historic franchises and money makers. If we see a Anthony Davis for Thompson/Iguadala trade, I'm fucking done with the NBA because I'd know that piece of shit Adam Silver would have demanded the Pelicans to give him up and promised them 3 #1 picks.

[Hoops Czar]

Kind of a strange bump, tbh. Green is leading the team in rebounds (10.8), assists (7.2) and blocks (2.0) and is coming off his best game of the season. I guess it's easier to blame an easy target like Green instead of Curry and Thompson who shot a combined 9-35 and 2-20 from 3pt range.

[james evans]

Kind of a strange bump, tbh. Green is leading the team in rebounds (10.8), assists (7.2) and blocks (2.0) and is coming off his best game of the season. I guess it's easier to blame an easy target like Green instead of Curry and Thompson who shot a combined 9-35 and 2-20 from 3pt range.
No one is blaming him. we're just saying he's not this super hero that can guard centers and every position on the floor without Bogut

[midnightpulp]

:lol How do you get destroyed by Julian Randle?

[james evans]

:lol How do you get destroyed by Julian Randle?
so are you officially hopping off the Warriors bandwagon and becoming a Spurs fan again?



We got no chance.

Lol at NBA roster building. A complete joke.

[Sean Cagney]

you guys are now seeing 2 things this season. You are seeing Green's defense get exposed without Speight/Ezili/Bogut helping his ass and you are seeing why I have said, "there is only one ball" all fucking summer. KD signing to the Warriors was a blessing in disguise to the Spurs and I was the only one to see it. While most of you fak ass fans thought the Warriors were going to go 79-3, I knew with the addition of West/Zaza/Durant they were gonna be fucked in the paint. but hey, I know ball.
Now we see contrary to his moms belief who the real D player of the year was the years Kawhi got the award, well deserved.

[ElNono]

Kind of a strange bump, tbh. Green is leading the team in rebounds (10.8), assists (7.2) and blocks (2.0) and is coming off his best game of the season. I guess it's easier to blame an easy target like Green instead of Curry and Thompson who shot a combined 9-35 and 2-20 from 3pt range.

What are you saying? That the king of triple-doubles (how many he has this season, BTW?), gets blown the fuck out unless Curry holds his hand? That's pretty much what the OP says, tbh...

[TampaDude]

Dubs miss Bogut and his illegal screens.

[gambit1990]

so are you officially hopping off the Warriors bandwagon and becoming a Spurs fan again?
mid covered his back by changing his mind like the stupid coward that he is...

7/4/16:

We got no chance.
10/5/16:

I'll retract my first statement in this thread

[Hoops Czar]

What are you saying? That the king of triple-doubles (how many he has this season, BTW?), gets blown the fuck out unless Curry holds his hand? That's pretty much what the OP says, tbh...

Do you watch basketball through a telescope? You called him a fat Leon Powe (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3023/leon-powe) and a first year DeJuan Blair with no ACL's (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3965/dejuan-blair). I mean, if you're gonna make shit up, at least get your comparisons right. BTW, nothing wrong with being a system player but your analogies are piss poor to the core. By your logic, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love are system players because they have zero playoff appearances without Lebron holding their hand.

I don't recall anyone jumping to conclusions that DG was/is the best player on the Warriors or and that the team doesn't run through Curry. Although, I will say that if Blair was putting up DG type numbers for the Spurs regardless of his shortcomings, he would have been immortalized in this forum.

[midnightpulp]

mid covered his back by changing his mind like the stupid coward that he is...

7/4/16:

10/5/16:

I'm on board. I think we beat them up inside.

[midnightpulp]

mid covered his back by changing his mind like the stupid coward that he is...

7/4/16:

10/5/16:

And :lol "coward." I don't think you've ever had a take that didn't involve Patty House vs. Tony Parker.

Damn. Bit obsessed, bro.

http://i.imgur.com/Rm9rRKq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/x199PEA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Drz7mXx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/u4tsYxs.jpg

Do you talk about anything else aside from Parker/Mills and terrible comic book movies?

Such a shitty and repetitive poster :lol

[gambit1990]

And :lol "coward." I don't think you've ever had a take that didn't involve Patty House vs. Tony Parker.

Damn. Bit obsessed, bro.

http://i.imgur.com/Rm9rRKq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/x199PEA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Drz7mXx.jpg

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Do you talk about anything else aside from Parker/Mills and terrible comic book movies?

Such a shitty and repetitive poster :lol
spend more of your life showing how right i was.

and how many terrible comic book movies did i talk about? one: doctor strange :lol stupid coward.

[gambit1990]

meltdownmid

[midnightpulp]

spend more of your life showing how right i was.

and how many terrible comic book movies did i talk about? one: doctor strange :lol stupid coward.

Right about what?

Oh, this:

http://i.imgur.com/KdSTVgu.jpg

Last season's takes are last season.

[midnightpulp]

meltdown

Perfect description of you in the various Tony Parker threads.

[ElNono]

Do you watch basketball through a telescope? You called him a fat Leon Powe (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3023/leon-powe) and a first year DeJuan Blair with no ACL's (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3965/dejuan-blair). I mean, if you're gonna make shit up, at least get your comparisons right. BTW, nothing wrong with being a system player but your analogies are piss poor to the core. By your logic, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love are system players because they have zero playoff appearances without Lebron holding their hand.

I don't recall anyone jumping to conclusions that DG was/is the best player on the Warriors or and that the team doesn't run through Curry. Although, I will say that if Blair was putting up DG type numbers for the Spurs regardless of his shortcomings, he would have been immortalized in this forum.

Leon Powe has as many rings as Raymond, tbh... he was a system player too, that looked like a million bucks in those 2008 Celtics... there's nothing wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade.

And both Irving and Love are guys that had teams try to build around them as stars, franchise players... Raymond is a creation of the media, feeding off the Curry/Dubs hype. Some peeps had him as a top 5 guy to build a new team around, next to Curry, Lebron, etc :lmao

The worst part is that he buy his own bullshit.

[gambit1990]

Right about what?

Oh, this:

http://i.imgur.com/KdSTVgu.jpg

Last season's takes are last season.

i wanted patty to start last year even when he couldn't shoot. i knew parker wouldn't have been a difference maker. with patty starting the ball is in kawhi's hands more by default. where it should be.

[gambit1990]

Perfect description of you in the various Tony Parker threads.
:lol point out where i had a meltdown in "various tony parker threads".

you said it c u n t, now prove it.

[midnightpulp]

Great take. That means when Kawhi would get the eventual hard double teams, he could kick it out to a Patty who couldn't shoot nor penetrate.

And Parker was decent against OKC. If Patty House, West and Boris weren't absolute shit, maybe we win that series. Duncan on one knee was a huge detriment as well. That series loss had nothing to do with Parker.

[gambit1990]

Great take. That means when Kawhi would get the eventual hard double teams, he could kick it out to a Patty who couldn't shoot nor penetrate.

And Parker was decent against OKC. If Patty House, West and Boris weren't absolute shit, maybe we win that series. Duncan on one knee was a huge detriment as well. That series loss had nothing to do with Parker.
oh no mid, that isn't how this works.

you said, of me, that "meltdown" was:

Perfect description of you in the various Tony Parker threads.

to which i replied:

:lol point out where i had a meltdown in "various tony parker threads".

you said it c u n t, now prove it.

your proof?


Great take. That means when Kawhi would get the eventual hard double teams, he could kick it out to a Patty who couldn't shoot nor penetrate.

And Parker was decent against OKC. If Patty House, West and Boris weren't absolute shit, maybe we win that series. Duncan on one knee was a huge detriment as well. That series loss had nothing to do with Parker.
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fuck off clown.

[midnightpulp]

:lol point out where i had a meltdown in "various tony parker threads".

you said it c u n t, now prove it.

199 posts in this thread about Tony Parker.

http://i.imgur.com/VWv1oPr.jpg

:lmao

And that's just one thread and you only have 2,800 total posts :lol

When someone criticizes a player ON THEIR OWN TEAM with that many posts in one thread, yeah, they're melting down.

[gambit1990]

199 posts in this thread about Tony Parker.

http://i.imgur.com/VWv1oPr.jpg

:lmao

And that's just one thread and you only have 2,800 total posts :lol

When someone criticizes a player ON THEIR OWN TEAM with that many posts in one thread, yeah, they're melting down.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

you call that melting down?

i told someone "my bad" cause i thought they were talking about me. they weren't :lol

stupid fuck. midnightcoward tbh.

[gambit1990]

spend your life combing through my posts through :lol

[midnightpulp]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

you call that melting down?

i told some "my bad" cause i thought they were talking about me. they weren't :lol

stupid fuck. midnightcoward tbh.

I'm not talking about the individual post, but your total amount of posts in ONE Tony Parker thread. That's a meltdown. You're obsessed with him.

Are you related to one of his sexual conquests or something? He seems to anger you.

[gambit1990]

Perfect description of you in the various Tony Parker threads.

I'm not talking about the individual post, but your total amount of posts in ONE Tony Parker thread.

you can't even keep your lies straight. stupid midnightcoward fuck.

[midnightpulp]

I'm not talking about the individual post, but your total amount of posts in ONE Tony Parker thread. That's a meltdown. You're obsessed with him.

Are you related to one of his sexual conquests or something? He seems to anger you.

Or maybe you were one of his sexual conquests :lol

[midnightpulp]

you can't even keep your lies straight. stupid midnightcoward fuck.

199 in one thread is proof enough of your obsession.

If you're not truly obsessed, you can easily prove it to me (and I know my respect is something you need) by not talking about Parker nor posting in Parker threads until the All Star Break. Nor can you backdoor criticize Parker by praising Patty.

Up for the challenge?

[Robz4000]

:lol mid and Nono bullying dem niggas in da paint

[Splits]

^^
That Harlem?:lol

:lmao

[Splits]

Jeesus mid, let gambit come up for air at least once before drowning him in his own shit... It's almost like he called fatbol boring...

Brutal.

[Shastafarian]

http://s7.postimg.org/iv4zo020b/Screen_Shot_2016_02_25_at_12_26_25_AM.png (http://postimg.org/image/ygmb7ydyf/full/)

What is this shit? :rollin

Raymond Green being the centerpiece :lmao

Never forget

[TheGreatYacht]

Jeesus mid, let gambit come up for air at least once before drowning him in his own shit... It's almost like he called fatbol boring...

Brutal.
:lmao

that mullet having faggot gambit gets cucked in every thread I click on tbh

[spursistan]

1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. Kawhi
4. Westbrook
5. Towns

:lol

[r0drig0lac]

Dubs miss Bogut and his illegal screens.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol
Averaging 30/8/3/2/1 with a 33.5PER tbh :wakeup

[spursistan]

Averaging 30/8/3/2/1 with a 33.5PER tbh :wakeup

You forgot to say on an established Championship core already..you don't build around beta bitch, bro (at least not that high with choices available knowing what we know about the guy mentality)..this nigga has no leadership bone in him..

[TheGreatYacht]

This donkey, his teammates, and the media are trying sooooooo hard to make him the DPOY :lol

Mainstream media is back and dick riding these faggots more than ever

[dabom]

This donkey, his teammates, and the media are trying sooooooo hard to make him the DPOY :lol

Mainstream media is back and dick riding these faggots more than ever

:lmao

[dabom]

Kawhi is gonna 3peat DPOY award.

[TheGreatYacht]

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[dabom]

Didn't stop Kawhi from dick slapping the Warriors. :lmao

[dabom]

Why ain't DFaggot guarding him? :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0xzX56fmg

[timtonymanu]

Aldridge had no problem scoring on him too.

[dabom]

Reggie Miller mad trying to downplay the Win. :lmao

[YGWHI]

Kawhi is gonna 3peat DPOY award.

Very unlikely with Spurs D ranking and his own numbers on that end. But we'll see. He won his two awards later into the season...With some good games on defense from him/Spurs and Warrios losing a few in March/April...Who knows.

What I hate most about Warriors is they really deserved to lose against Bucks last week and Hawks tonight but they still won. F*CK THEM!

[ElNono]

:lol all those press releases from coach, and teammates...

[Robz4000]

Kawhi isn't gonna threepeat; the Spurs' defense will barely be Top 10 imo. If anything, Paul Millsap deserves to win it especially if Atlanta's defense continues to be tops in the league.

[NameLess Scrub]

I guess if you showboat and dance real hard, your blocks count twice.

[dabom]

It will be hard for Kawhi. But he still is the best DPOY even he doesn't go 100% of the time.

No one is better on defense than him.

[Sean Cagney]

:lol all those press releases from coach, and teammates...
Fucking pathetic, campaigning for awards.......

[james evans]

Aldridge had no problem scoring on him too.
Green get's exposed on defense when teams with Big men have shooters to space the floor. When you have a team in which no one can consistently hit outside jumpers, the warriors can crowd the paint. Won't work against us this season as we've already seen. He can have the DPOY award, we all know he's made of

[Ice009]

Green get's exposed on defense when teams with Big men have shooters to space the floor. When you have a team in which no one can consistently hit outside jumpers, the warriors can crowd the paint. Won't work against us this season as we've already seen. He can have the DPOY award, we all know he's made of

Nah, I don't want him to have it, and that's not because I'm an asshole, it's because if he gets it then the refs will let him get away with even more fouling when he's inside the paint trying to guard bigs. Nope, I don't want him to get it.

Hopefully Kawhi and the Spurs crank up the defense. They really need to, for the team and himself.

[NameLess Scrub]

Nah, I don't want him to have it, and that's not because I'm an asshole, it's because if he gets it then the refs will let him get away with even more fouling when he's inside the paint trying to guard bigs. Nope, I don't want him to get it.

Hopefully Kawhi and the Spurs crank up the defense. They really need to, for the team and himself.

Makes sense.

I hope he gets taken out of a series by a scoring big.

[james evans]

he already gets away with everything. They have for years haha

[HarlemHeat37]

He's one of the most amazing players I've ever seen at the NBA level, tbh..great leadership, versatility that has been matched by few, huge big-game performer(best player in game 7 of the NBA Finals, last year)..I would pay good $ to replace Aldridge's soft-ass for a real nigga like Dray..

I doubt he wins DPOY, though, unless the Warriors finish in the top 5, defensively..right now, it would be Gobert IMO..

[dabom]

He's one of the most amazing players I've ever seen at the NBA level, tbh..great leadership, versatility that has been matched by few, huge big-game performer(best player in game 7 of the NBA Finals, last year)..I would pay good $ to replace Aldridge's soft-ass for a real nigga like Dray..

I doubt he wins DPOY, though, unless the Warriors finish in the top 5, defensively..right now, it would be Gobert IMO..

Dude is a serial nut kicker. And a headcase. I wouldn't do it for a bigger beta. the guy can't even shoot. He would be garbage on a normal team.

[spursistan]

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wow truly embarrassing campaigning and we ain't even past the quarter mark of the season :lol

If Spurs D doesn't improve, then Millsap or Gobert woud be more worthy than this overrated hack..

[HarlemHeat37]

^^Millsap?

Gobert should win it, but I can't imagine the media giving it to him, not sure why:lol..I feel like they'll give it to Jordan or Draymond..

[TheGreatYacht]

The guy running the Bleacher Report account is a Warriors fan, found his twitter last year but I don't remember the @ :lol

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[RD2191]

The guy running the Bleacher Report account is a Warriors fan, found his twitter last year but I don't remember the @ :lol

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:lmao

[99 Problems]

Anyone?? What, he turned into Kiwi Leonard did he?

[james evans]

The guy running the Bleacher Report account is a Warriors fan, found his twitter last year but I don't remember the @ :lol

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why didn't he lock up harden last night

[dabom]

I've never seen green even slow down kawhi. :lmao

[spurraider21]

I've never seen green even slow down kawhi. :lmaoso dpoy should be dictated by one matchup?

[dabom]

so dpoy should be dictated by one matchup?

I was talking about the whole "can guard anyone" bullshit. :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

faggot piece of shit

[spurraider21]

People who don't like draymond just don't like proud outspoken black men. Harlem can confirm tbh

[UZER]

I've never seen someone play under his own rules more than this guy. Dude fouls every possession. Then has the balls berates the refs all the time and they just let him.

He was in the officials face yelling after the foul on the Anderson 3. WTF was he complaining about. Then the red knows he has a tech and is telling his to stfu but Draymond just keeps going and going with no regard.

[Mr. Body]

People who don't like draymond just don't like proud outspoken black men. Harlem can confirm tbh

I don't like Mongoloid spastics, that's why I don't like him.

[daledondale]

faggot piece of shit

[Spur|n|Austin]

Draymond with his natural shooting motion last night - it's def clean and natural....

https://streamable.com/ljp0

[Mister Sinister]

Ain't that a kick in the head.

[SAGirl]

Draymond with his natural shooting motion last night - it's def clean and natural....

https://streamable.com/ljp0
...
on the review of that play.. Harden even goes straight up. The dude flails and does his signature kick move...

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi isn't gonna threepeat; the Spurs' defense will barely be Top 10 imo. If anything, Paul Millsap deserves to win it especially if Atlanta's defense continues to be tops in the league.

DeAndre deserves it, LeBrick didn't want anything to do with him in the paint. He has to outplay Gaymond when they go up against each other though....otherwise voters are going to use it against him.

[Kawhitstorm]

^^Millsap?

Gobert should win it, but I can't imagine the media giving it to him, not sure why:lol..I feel like they'll give it to Jordan or Draymond..

DeAndre was the best defender on the floor when the Jazz played against the Cripples.:wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

why didn't he lock up harden last night

Forget Harden, he got lite up by his own man: Anderson.:lol

[cd98]

I gotta love the Reggie Miller commentary as Green obviously raises his foot high enough to make contact.

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[TheGreatYacht]

DeAndre was the best defender on the floor when the Jazz played against the Cripples.:wakeup
Gobert is DPOY, and it's currently not even close :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Gobert is DPOY, and it's currently not even close :lol

WtliMocATHo

[HarlemHeat37]

The kicking call was pretty terrible, tbh..it was due to the name on the back of his jersey..

Reminds me of when they used to give Artest T fouls for every little thing:lol

[JohnnyMax]

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[Cry Havoc]

The kicking call was pretty terrible, tbh..it was due to the name on the back of his jersey..

Reminds me of when they used to give Artest T fouls for every little thing:lol

Are you still trying to say that Green's kicks are a "natural motion"?

http://deadspin.com/actual-body-expert-says-draymond-greens-excuse-for-ball-1789787069

Rofl. Inb4 you try some pathetic attempt to discredit a physiologist.

[Joseph Kony]

the darker the chocolate, the more harlem defends :lmao

[Raven]

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he didn't even do anything special for that.. griffin just decided to shoot himself in the foot missing open jumpers that he didn't even need to take, all night. On his side Draymond has been dunked on pretty badly by jordan more than once..

[Mikeanaro]

This deserves a bump...

[UZER]

I've been saying for along time that teams need to make him pay for cheating so far off his man. He's so obsessed with making a play on the ball, especially in the 4th, that he constantly leaves his man all alone.

Teams need to factor that in when they are trying to get a bucket. He does it all game but teams should exploit it in 4th.

[spursistan]

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One day this nigga going to torpedo that team from inside, for good.

[james evans]

I guess I look like a genius for my comments in the off season for adding Durant. While all of Spurstalk wanted to give them the title, I said they will be worse this year and explained thoroughly HOW they were going to be worse.

[spursistan]

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I am going to call this already: Durbeta will dip out of Golden State the moment he wins a title..I just don't think his soft ass will spend the rest of his career with essentially a role player getting a licence to tell him off after each miscue..

[spursistan]

^

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dTwX8T_pU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMYX7oN5Io

The cancer potential of Raymond is real..let'em start losing more frequently and you'll see how his nasty and negative leadership style backfire on the team....

[Capt Bringdown]

Cheating wins championships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ra9ni9_C7A

[UZER]

Draymond can now see first hand Durant has choking in his blood.

But he also has nary room since he got suspended for an NBA finals game and cost his team the series. :lol

[CGD]

I think it's good for Durant. He's fragile and needs to toughen up.

[Chinook]

^

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dTwX8T_pU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMYX7oN5Io

The cancer potential of Raymond is real..let'em start losing more frequently and you'll see how his nasty and negative leadership style backfire on the team....

Did you cut these vids yourself? These are mad-overblown. Draymond just looks like he's pissed any time he talks, and Durant is going to respond defensively to anything. I think Green was telling him to not OKC it up by isoing then passing it once he realizes he can't score in hopes his teammates can bail him out. The question is going to be will KD grown tired of Draymond "teaching him how to win", especially considering that Draymond pissed away a critical point down the stretch. We'll see. The Warriors haven't begun to feel pressure yet, and there are a number of potential cracks worth watching once that happens.

[Mr. Body]

^

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dTwX8T_pU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMYX7oN5Io

The cancer potential of Raymond is real..let'em start losing more frequently and you'll see how his nasty and negative leadership style backfire on the team....

It's more likely that Durant is the cancer.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Raymond's just pissed off at Durant for exposing him as a scrub who throws up air balls. We'll see more of such jawing when the Ls start piling up.

[dabom]

Did you cut these vids yourself? These are mad-overblown. Draymond just looks like he's pissed any time he talks, and Durant is going to respond defensively to anything. I think Green was telling him to not OKC it up by isoing then passing it once he realizes he can't score in hopes his teammates can bail him out. The question is going to be will KD grown tired of Draymond "teaching him how to win", especially considering that Draymond pissed away a critical point down the stretch. We'll see. The Warriors haven't begun to feel pressure yet, and there are a number of potential cracks worth watching once that happens.

Are you watching same thing I'm watching?

Looks like Durant has had enough shit talk from a garbage player to me. Durant telling him he can't play that shit with him. This is very telling.

[dabom]

KD even picks up his shorts like "you wanna fight" type of mentality. Easy "cues" guys. Only non-intelligent basketball fans will miss this.

[DAF86]

I guess I look like a genius for my comments in the off season for adding Durant. While all of Spurstalk wanted to give them the title, I said they will be worse this year and explained thoroughly HOW they were going to be worse.

And exactly how is that? :lol

[cd98]

It's funny how Green seems to have a similar personality to Westbrook. Not surprisingly, it isn't meshing well with Durant.

[Chinook]

Apparently, people are praising how beautiful the Wizards offense is looking under Brooks now. It's not a good sign for Russ and KD that they seem to be the same no matter the system.

[Snaq O'Meal]

It's funny how Green seems to have a similar personality to Westbrook. Not surprisingly, it isn't meshing well with Durant.

Green has a similar personality but only a fraction of the talent.

[Mr. Body]

It's funny how Green seems to have a similar personality to Westbrook. Not surprisingly, it isn't meshing well with Durant.

Yeah, Westbrook and Draymond are both scrappers and are very competitive - if obnoxious and stupid. Durant isn't a terribly competitive person and is very soft.

[r0drig0lac]

It's more likely that Durant is the cancer.

this

[r0drig0lac]

^

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dTwX8T_pU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMYX7oN5Io

The cancer potential of Raymond is real..let'em start losing more frequently and you'll see how his nasty and negative leadership style backfire on the team....

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[RD2191]

I can see the dubs moving dray if he keeps this shit up.

[UZER]

I can see the dubs moving dray if he keeps this shit up.

They was an article some time ago saying he and Kerr really get along because he's such a stubborn donkey.

[Mr. Body]

They was an article some time ago saying he and Kerr really get along because he's such a stubborn donkey.

He's the one holding the team together. Curry, Thompson, and Durant are all super-talented featherdusters, and no one else really matters. Without the vague amount of gristle Draymond provides this team wouldn't be nearly as good.

[UZER]

He's the one holding the team together. Curry, Thompson, and Durant are all super-talented featherdusters, and no one else really matters. Without the vague amount of gristle Draymond provides this team wouldn't be nearly as good.

I meant to say don't get along, to the point that Kerr can't stand him.

[TheDoctor]

It wasn't the first time. First public exchange was in their OT loss vs Memphis early this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYSkJEATo0

[NameLess Scrub]

As much as I dislike Durant's move to the Warrios, I wouldn't like draymond yelling at me on the court, showing me off nationally like he's some tough coach on an elementary school league.

I can't put that particular thing on Durant. Draymond must be insufferable some times.

[NameLess Scrub]

I guess I look like a genius for my comments in the off season for adding Durant. While all of Spurstalk wanted to give them the title, I said they will be worse this year and explained thoroughly HOW they were going to be worse.

They haven't lost the title.

Winning less games than last year doesn't mean much. It was very hard to repeat a 73 win season anyway.

[james evans]

They haven't lost the title.

Winning less games than last year doesn't mean much. It was very hard to repeat a 73 win season anyway.
So you don't agree that their defense is worse than last year?

[NameLess Scrub]

So you don't agree that their defense is worse than last year?

Oh yeah.. they're worst in given aspects.

But we can't say if they're a worst team or if anything they've lost is relevant until we see if they actually struggle in the playoffs or get eliminated.

If they ring by out-talenting the opposition, all they might have lost will be worth it.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So you don't agree that their defense is worse than last year?

Not really.Their defensive ratings are identical to last season's.

Defensive rating is 101.4 compared to 100.9 last season. Opponent shooting percentages are also very similar.

You'd think their interior defense is worse? Nope - they allow less points in the paint this season. You'd think their rebounding is worse? Nope - %-wise it's identical and they allow less 2nd chance points compared to last season. ( though , again, very similar to last season's numbers )

So, no.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's evident that some people in this thread didn't watch the Kings game, tbh:lol

Dominos was killing their offense with horrible shot selection, poor decision making and ISO ball, all night, even Sacramento's announcers(most unbiased and fair in the NBA) questioned him throughout..Draymond got into him after Dominos wasted 10 seconds going 1 on 1 and dribbling out the clock, only to pass it to Green for a 30-foot contested 3 at the buzzer..

Durant is the most protected star I've ever seen..he was shielded by Westbrook and now it's Draymond..it's not a coincidence that GS has looked unstoppable since they went back to Curry as their anchor..

[HarlemHeat37]

And no, Warriors don't have chemistry issues, people are just praying that they do out of fear, tbh:lol

[NameLess Scrub]

Not really.Their defensive ratings are identical to last season's.

Defensive rating is 101.4 compared to 100.9 last season. Opponent shooting percentages are also very similar.

You'd think their interior defense is worse? Nope - they allow less points in the paint this season. You'd think their rebounding is worse? Nope - %-wise it's identical and they allow less 2nd chance points compared to last season. ( though , again, very similar to last season's numbers )

So, no.

Well apparently I was wrong in that. Still the same point though :lol

[james evans]

Not really.Their defensive ratings are identical to last season's.

Defensive rating is 101.4 compared to 100.9 last season. Opponent shooting percentages are also very similar.

You'd think their interior defense is worse? Nope - they allow less points in the paint this season. You'd think their rebounding is worse? Nope - %-wise it's identical and they allow less 2nd chance points compared to last season. ( though , again, very similar to last season's numbers )

So, no.
When teams pound them in the paint, they are successful. Why teams try to outshoot them is beyond my knowledge. Numbers can be deceiving. I like to use the good old eye test by watching games instead of googling stats. I've seen some Warriors games this year in which teams are dominating them in the paint, then either KD or Klay come down and hit a couple 3s and their opponents feel they have to match. Shit is crazy. I have no idea why the clippers don't play GS like they play us. I don't know if someone up top is telling them to play different or what. The media has made KD out to be some defensive wizard lol. A lineup of Murray/Simmons/Leonard/Aldrdige/Gasol would expose 3 of their 5 starters's defense. Because with Danny Green starting, Curry is just gonna rest on defense

[coachmac87]

When teams pound them in the paint, they are successful. Why teams try to outshoot them is beyond my knowledge. Numbers can be deceiving. I like to use the good old eye test by watching games instead of googling stats. I've seen some Warriors games this year in which teams are dominating them in the paint, then either KD or Klay come down and hit a couple 3s and their opponents feel they have to match. Shit is crazy. I have no idea why the clippers don't play GS like they play us. I don't know if someone up top is telling them to play different or what. The media has made KD out to be some defensive wizard lol. A lineup of Murray/Simmons/Leonard/Aldrdige/Gasol would expose 3 of their 5 starters's defense. Because with Danny Green starting, Curry is just gonna rest on defense

You had me until you went with that lineup........that line up will never and shouldn't see the floor against GSW

[Seventyniner]

You had me until you went with that lineup........that line up will never and shouldn't see the floor against GSW

Agreed, I don't like that lineup either.

It's hard to come up with the ideal lineup against them though. It would have to include Kawhi, Aldridge, and Green. But you have to have Parker to have any playmaking unless you play Manu and Mills which makes it a small lineup. Gasol can't defend anyone other than Pachulia and in that case he'd get screened and switched every possession which would murder the Spurs D. Parker and Dedmon looks the best on paper, if only we get good not-too-many-fouls Dedmon and healthy, locked-in Parker.

[Nathan89]

I could see all these on court spats being very embarrassing for Durant. The dude doesn't want to look like a loser and here he is getting bossed around by Draymond routinely. Hopefully some team and push them to the limits.

[SAGirl]

Apparently, people are praising how beautiful the Wizards offense is looking under Brooks now. It's not a good sign for Russ and KD that they seem to be the same no matter the system.
It's an interesting subject and one that has come up in so many different contexts... that players are who they are and the coach is basically a game manager tasked with putting guys in spots and assign roles that mesh well with their skill and what not... but often it gets overblown and coaches get credited for "making" the player into who they are...
Excessively used to discredit Kawhis evolution to the point it's questioned whether he would have turned into a star anywhere else... Probably only his shooting coach influenced his career the most. He has the individual drive to be great and the talent... Anyways, jn Brooks case, he blamed for an iso centric system that encouraged his stars to play selfishly and make constant mistakes in the clutch. But they are basically the same guys they have always been.

It probably has a bit of both... coach and player both influence the ultimate result, but it's ultimately on the player himself whether he's going to adapt and change or not. Bad habits are very hard to break, specially under pressure...

Now I will deviate from the subject a bit bc this reminds me of Dijon and the tough coaching he's getting... I think it's easier to try to break bad habits and build up new ones at his age. We shall see what he grows into eventually... but it's probably for the better that Pop keeps on being tough on him.

[spursistan]

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[TD 21]

Green is a disgrace and his personality would probably grate on anyone, but I don't buy that they have chemistry issues either. However, there's clearly some (inevitable) friction and frustration because unlike the typical "super team", they're all in their prime and games like 10 shots and 10 points are foreign to Durant and clearly a blow to his ego, just like Curry's relative struggles for much of the season were. There's also clearly some late and close trepidation because they have 2 players who, on save for maybe 3-4 other teams, would unequivocally be the go to play maker late in games. Durant somewhat had that with Westbrook, but the differences were, he arrived first and was the bigger star, so at least until their final 2 seasons together, it was viewed as "his team".

They were also due for some regression to the mean in these situations. Two seasons ago, they finished 2 games better than their expected record and last season, a whopping 8 games.

[james evans]

You had me until you went with that lineup........that line up will never and shouldn't see the floor against GSW
Simmons just had 22 in the first game of the season against them.

[coachmac87]

Simmons just had 22 in the first game of the season against them.

Fact...

Doesn't help your argument

[ElNono]

Dominos was killing their offense with horrible shot selection, poor decision making and ISO ball, all night, even Sacramento's announcers(most unbiased and fair in the NBA) questioned him throughout..Draymond got into him after Dominos wasted 10 seconds going 1 on 1 and dribbling out the clock, only to pass it to Green for a 30-foot contested 3 at the buzzer..

Reminds me of certain Spurs player, tbh...

[bklynspursfan]

Wrong thread

[dabom]

Reminds me of certain Spurs player, tbh...

Are we talking about porker or fathead here?

[ElNono]

Are we talking about porker or fathead here?

good point

[HarlemHeat37]

Wow, historic performance that had never been done on an NBA court prior to tonight, tbh..10 steals and 5 blocks in the same game..triple double without points..

He could have probably stat-padded his way to a quadruple-double, but had too much class..

[UZER]

Wow, historic performance that had never been done on an NBA court prior to tonight, tbh..10 steals and 5 blocks in the same game..triple double without points..

He could have probably stat-padded his way to a quadruple-double, but had too much class..

Plus, he's black.

[HarlemHeat37]

Tony Allen: "That's a lot of work to put in. Draymond Green, he's definitely a first-team all-defender."

Grizzlies coach David Fizdale on Draymond Green: "He's just finds ways to help his team win no matter what the situation is. He's a special player. He's a championship player, and I'm not surprised he's a guy that got a triple-double like that."

[Mikeanaro]

Tony Allen: "That's a lot of work to put in. Draymond Green, he's definitely a first-team all-defender."

Grizzlies coach David Fizdale on Draymond Green: "He's just finds ways to help his team win no matter what the situation is. He's a special player. He's a championship player, and I'm not surprised he's a guy that got a triple-double like that."
Lol lets be honest, these days is not common to see players talking crap about other players, Rasheed is retired.

[UZER]

Lol lets be honest, these days is not common to see players talking crap about other players, Rasheed is retired.

And yet players think the quietest star in the league gets too much love. :lol

[ElNono]

Wow, historic performance that had never been done on an NBA court prior to tonight, tbh..10 steals and 5 blocks in the same game..triple double without points..

He could have probably stat-padded his way to a quadruple-double, but had too much class..

Not the only historic performance in that game... Memphis scoring over 100 pts in a game this season has to be in the records book somewhere too :lol

[ElNono]

Lol lets be honest, these days is not common to see players talking crap about other players, Rasheed is retired.

OT, but Rasheed attended the Spurs-Sixers game the other day...

[Mikeanaro]

OT, but Rasheed attended the Spurs-Sixers game the other day...
He was there, did he say something funny? THAT MANU KID IS NO BIG DEAL :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

And yet players think the quietest star in the league gets too much love. :lol
:lol

[r0drig0lac]

10 steals...beast

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[spursistan]

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:lmao

shit is so obvious...this ESPN journalism is fuckin shoddy and embarrassing..

they make a poll at convenient time and send one of their half dozen embedded Warriors beat writer to pick up few quotes from the person they have been hyping for the awards for months now :lol..

[SAGirl]

It's his year..... Gobert? Nobody is talking about him.... They made a fuss about Kiwis bad defensive metrics to start the season...
but what matters is what happens in the postseason anyways.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not surprising, he deserves it, tbh..he was already the media favorite, anyways, but last week's historic performance was a statement game for the DPOY..

[ElNono]

His DWS and DRTG are both down from last season... at least Kawhi has kept up his DRTG...

You can be sure his mom is going to put in work on twitter if he loses again though :lol

She'll probably pull the :cry my son is a victim because he called Dolan a racist :cry

[dabom]

:lol

[Seventyniner]

The Spurs had a historically good defense last season, hard not to give DPOY to Kawhi. He earned it.

But this year the Warriors are right on the Spurs' heels for #1 in DRtg, plus Kawhi with DPOY might get the Jordan/MVP effect. DPOY is Draymond's to lose right now.

[SAGirl]

Kawhi will be MVP so they give DPOY to Raymond...

[BatManu20]

Draymond could honestly be a below-average defender the rest of the season, and he's still going to win the DPOY. It's gift-wrapped with his name on it already.

[rasuo214]

It'll make it even better when Kawhi steals DPOY again.

[spursistan]

834997326141771776At some point, Kerr has to crack the whip ....He's got enough of job security to do it..This rogue behavior from this asshole could threaten the coach authority and standing in the locker room..

[Nathan89]

Can't win without 2 top 5 players.:lmao

[BillMc]

I think his DPOY campaign might be DOA now.

[NameLess Scrub]

834997326141771776At some point, Kerr has to crack the whip ....He's got enough of job security to do it..This rogue behavior from this asshole could threaten the coach authority and standing in the locker room..

Meh.. Lebron doesn't agree with this :lol

[PopTheGOAT]

I honestly think Kawhi might win DPOY again if he doesn't win MVP :lol

[james evans]

Truthfully, green has been getting abused this year without bogut

[HarlemHeat37]

Truthfully, green has been getting abused this year without bogut

They have the 2nd best defense in the NBA and he ranks as one of the 5 best rim protectors in the league, this season:lol

[SpursFan86]

They have the 2nd best defense in the NBA and he ranks as one of the 5 best rim protectors in the league, this season:lol


Opponents are also shooting 5.2% worse than their average when being guarded by him. Wish Parker would get abused like Draymond :lol

[james evans]

They have the 2nd best defense in the NBA and he ranks as one of the 5 best rim protectors in the league, this season:lol
how dod they have the 2nd best defense in the league when all season in the rankings Us and Utah have had the #1 and 2 best defense in the league giving up he least amount of points? And I do the eye test. When they dump the ball down on green with a big man, he's seriously getting abused. I'm talking against ELITE teams. They do the same shit with GS every year. Start them out with a weak schedule, then they play houston and okc a lot, then the last month or so of the season, they play the rest of their games against us and the better teams. The elite teams they play are spaced out more than anyone else in the league. That's how they get their runs.

[BillMc]

Jazz are looking solid at the 4 spot, think Gobert gets DPOY. If not Kawhi's got a shot with recent buzz.

[Mikeanaro]

how dod they have the 2nd best defense in the league when all season in the rankings Us and Utah have had the #1 and 2 best defense in the league giving up he least amount of points? And I do the eye test. When they dump the ball down on green with a big man, he's seriously getting abused. I'm talking against ELITE teams. They do the same shit with GS every year. Start them out with a weak schedule, then they play houston and okc a lot, then the last month or so of the season, they play the rest of their games against us and the better teams. The elite teams they play are spaced out more than anyone else in the league. That's how they get their runs.
That happened with the CHeat some years ago.

[DAF86]

how dod they have the 2nd best defense in the league when all season in the rankings Us and Utah have had the #1 and 2 best defense in the league giving up he least amount of points? And I do the eye test. When they dump the ball down on green with a big man, he's seriously getting abused. I'm talking against ELITE teams. They do the same shit with GS every year. Start them out with a weak schedule, then they play houston and okc a lot, then the last month or so of the season, they play the rest of their games against us and the better teams. The elite teams they play are spaced out more than anyone else in the league. That's how they get their runs.

Allowing the least amount of pts doesn't necessarily mean having a better defense, most times it means playing at a slower pace.

[SpursFan86]

Using raw points allowed to judge defense in 2017 :lol

GS gives up a lot of points because they play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league...they're still 2nd in DRTG, which adjusts for pace. By all metrics they've been elite defensively this year.

[Mikeanaro]

Using raw points allowed to judge defense in 2017 :lol

GS gives up a lot of points because they play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league...they're still 2nd in DRTG, which adjusts for pace. By all metrics they've been elite defensively this year.
Still they get away with a lot of defensive crap that refs approve and that helps to shave some points every game, not as much as last season but they get their benefits.
Now they are not so good, 5 great team players for one All Star is not a good idea any day of the week.

[tholdren]

Using raw points allowed to judge defense in 2017 :lol

GS gives up a lot of points because they play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league...they're still 2nd in DRTG, which adjusts for pace. By all metrics they've been elite defensively this year.

lol it's not one or the other.

[tbdog]

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[spursistan]

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Up 22 and this pathetic faggot was chasing a triple double in last 30 sec...Wish he tore an ACL...

[spurraider21]

:lol spurstalk

[LkrFan]

System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

Wanna talk about it s:loln? PM me if you have to. I'm here for you :cry

[spurraider21]

:lol dejuan blair and leon Powe
:lol Homer spurfans sensitive over warriors

[LkrFan]

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[RD2191]

Since when does draymond play for the Lakers?

[dabom]

Since when does draymond play for the Lakers?

Lakerfans are basically all wagon fans. :lol

[dabom]

And raiderbitch is from cali, so he likes the warriettes too. :lol

[RD2191]

Lakerfans are basically all wagon fans. :lol

Pathetic faggots riding the dubs. What a shit fanbase. :lol

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

And raiderbitch is from cali, so he likes the warriettes too. :lol

:lol

[spurraider21]

:lol riding dubs

Acknowledging that a good player is good means I'm riding the team?

Delerious, sensitive fans

[LkrFan]

:lol riding dubs

Acknowledging that a good player is good means I'm riding the team?

Delerious, sensitive fans

Agreed :lol

[RD2191]

:lol riding dubs

Acknowledging that a good player is good means I'm riding the team?

Delerious, sensitive fans

No one is talking about your faggot ass.

[RD2191]

Agreed :lol

I only see you acknowledging dubs players. TBH

[spurraider21]

No one is talking about your faggot ass.


And raiderbitch is from cali, so he likes the warriettes too. :lol

Peanut butter man having reading problems :lol

[LkrFan]

I only see you acknowledging dubs players. TBH

What's wrong with that son? ;)

[LkrFan]

Peanut butter man having reading problems :lol

:lmao

[dabom]

:lol riding dubs

Acknowledging that a good player is good means I'm riding the team?

Delerious, sensitive fans

Dude so tilt he can't even spell right. :lol

[ElNono]

what happened? he dominated Nurkic?

[FkLA]

lol at 'delerious'

[spurraider21]

Spelling smack when I'm on my phone. Top tier rebuttals

[daslicer]

:lol riding dubs

Acknowledging that a good player is good means I'm riding the team?

Delerious, sensitive fans

Come out and talk shit when Draymond has a 2 points, 4 rebounding game on 30 percent shooting. You tend to be in hiding when he has those games.

[RD2191]

Peanut butter man having reading problems :lol

Well I wasn't, but if you wanna call yourself a faggot then by all means do.

[RD2191]

what happened? he dominated Nurkic?

:lol

[spurraider21]

Come out and talk shit when Draymond has a 2 points, 4 rebounding game on 30 percent shooting. You tend to be in hiding when he has those games.
How about none of us cherry pick and we talk averages. Let's see how that conversation goes

[NameLess Scrub]

853730810440163328

Anybody wondering how many players would have gotten a foul called for that?

[FkLA]

Come out and talk shit when Draymond has a 2 points, 4 rebounding game on 30 percent shooting. You tend to be in hiding when he has those games.

Or 10.2 pts on 41.8% shooting which was his season average.

He's a badass defender. His playmaking is pretty good, but obviously aided by the weapons he has in GS. He's not gifted enough offensively to sustain that level of playmaking in a more normal setting, imo. Really good player but definitely overhyped--don't see how he's considered an undisputed all-star with those offensive numbers or how he's such an overwhelming favorite over Gobert for DPOY.

[TheGreatYacht]

Should be 3x DPOY by now tbh

[daslicer]

Or 10.2 pts on 41.8% shooting which was his season average.

He's a badass defender. His playmaking is pretty good, but obviously aided by the weapons he has in GS. He's not gifted enough offensively to sustain that level of playmaking in a more normal setting, imo. Really good player but definitely overhyped--don't see how he's considered an undisputed all-star with those offensive numbers or how he's such an overwhelming favorite over Gobert for DPOY.

I definitely think he's valuable to the Warriors on the level of what Horry,Fox,Fisher were for the Lakers during the early '00s. He's a very good role player but like you said I don't believe he's a legit all-star. Put him on a middle of the pack team like the bulls and his play making skills is very limited due to not having GOAT shooters around him. Without the playmaking he then becomes a huge liability on the offensive end since he has no jump shot. On the defensive end he gets away with hand checking which I think he would get called for more often if he played on a team that didn't have the media popularity of the Warriors. Also factor in that defensively he would get in foul trouble more often due to not getting the ref favoritism that a player gets when playing on a media popular team. I think Gobert should win DPOY but just like you said it's probably not going to happen since Draymond has the media on his side.

[dabom]

Or 10.2 pts on 41.8% shooting which was his season average.

He's a badass defender. His playmaking is pretty good, but obviously aided by the weapons he has in GS. He's not gifted enough offensively to sustain that level of playmaking in a more normal setting, imo. Really good player but definitely overhyped--don't see how he's considered an undisputed all-star with those offensive numbers or how he's such an overwhelming favorite over Gobert for DPOY.

Also take into affect pace and that 10ppg looks like shit too. :lol

[daslicer]

Also take into affect pace and that 10ppg looks like shit too. :lol

:lol Good point. How many points does Draymond average on a normal team?

[dabom]

:lol Good point. How many points does Draymond average on a normal team?

Dude shoots like 33% from wide open threes. Imagine if he were a first option and teams prioritized him. :lol

[spurraider21]

Or 10.2 pts on 41.8% shooting which was his season average.

He's a badass defender. His playmaking is pretty good, but obviously aided by the weapons he has in GS. He's not gifted enough offensively to sustain that level of playmaking in a more normal setting, imo. Really good player but definitely overhyped--don't see how he's considered an undisputed all-star with those offensive numbers or how he's such an overwhelming favorite over Gobert for DPOY.
My perspective is that he's a top 3 defender in the league along with kawhi and Gobert

That alone makes him all star worthy. He's not dead weight offensively like a Tony Allen or Shane barrier. He's a net positive on offense too and the playmaking at his position is a good weapon.

[dabom]

Kawhi has shown since coming to the league to have great shooting percentages as a role player. This dude can't even shoot when he has all the space in the world. :lol

[dabom]

Imagine if the NBA were forced to guard Kawhi one-on-one. :wow :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

Anybody wondering how many players would have gotten a foul called for that?
Raymond can get away anytime, there was another play during the first half that got away with murder, it was a block on Krabbe I think, bitch slaps elbows, wrists and nobody says a thing.

[spurraider21]

Kawhi has shown since coming to the league to have great shooting percentages as a role player. This dude can't even shoot when he has all the space in the world. :lolkawhi is a much better offensive player than draymond. nobody disputes that. heck, nobody here outside of greatyach, a known troll going waaay back, argues draymond is better than kawhi :lol

but of course your sensitive ass thinks anybody saying something positive about draymond is shitting on kawhi

[dabom]

I'm debating his shit shooting percentages as a role player and adjusting them for a first option. Dude would be a bum. :lol

[daslicer]

Imagine if the NBA were forced to guard Kawhi one-on-one. :wow :lmao

Imagine how devastating Kawhi would be on the defensive end if he was allowed to get away with hand checking.

[dabom]

Besides one game. I have yet to see the Warriors stop Kawhi. EVER. :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm debating his shit shooting percentages as a role player and adjusting them for a first option. Dude would be a bum. :lolwho is arguing that draymond makes a better first option than kawhi?

:lmao sensitive, defensive posters