Raymond Green is overrated AF

[daslicer]

Raymond can get away anytime, there was another play during the first half that got away with murder, it was a block on Krabbe I think, bitch slaps elbows, wrists and nobody says a thing.

This is why I have a hard time respecting Draymond defensively. He's allowed by the refs to hold, grab, hand check, elbow with out fouls being called against him. Essentially he's allowed to play 90's defense which normally I wouldn't have a problem with other then the fact it has been outlawed by the rules.

[dabom]

I'm talking about the OP "Raymond Green is overrated AF". :lmao

He is. And he would get exposed on any other team. :lmao

[dabom]

Besides one game. I have yet to see the Warriors stop Kawhi. EVER. :lol

Isn't raymond supposed to defend the 1-5? Why isn't he ever on Kawhi? :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm talking about the OP "Raymond Green is overrated AF". :lmao

He is. And he would get exposed on any other team. :lmaoyou make no sense. who is overrating him by calling him a first option? who has called him a better first option than kawhi? who are the people overrating him? and how badly are they overrating him, specifically?

[Mikeanaro]

I'm debating his shit shooting percentages as a role player and adjusting them for a first option. Dude would be a bum. :lol
He is a glorified role player, maybe someday he will be the starter on a lesser team and shit will be totally exposed, you must see players on both sides to judge and as far as things goes now Ray is being saved because he is playing for the ref loved team.
On other team he could be a Perkins, or a knucklehead like Stephenson... bum.

[dabom]

you make no sense. who is overrating him by calling him a first option? who has called him a better first option than kawhi? who are the people overrating him? and how badly are they overrating him, specifically?

I'm debating his "allstar" spot. Dude is a good role player on the warriors. Would get exposed on any other team.

[dabom]

He is a glorified role player, maybe someday he will be the starter on a lesser team and shit will be totally exposed, you must see players on both sides to judge and as far as things goes now Ray is being saved because he is playing for the ref loved team.
On other team he could be a Perkins, or a knucklehead like Stephenson... bum.

Definitely overrated by vanilla mainstream casual fans. :lol

[siraulo23]

Draymond Green is a beast, he a complete defensive player. Good fundamentals, great perimeter defender, rim protector and post defender.

[FkLA]

My perspective is that he's a top 3 defender in the league along with kawhi and Gobert

That alone makes him all star worthy. He's not dead weight offensively like a Tony Allen or Shane barrier. He's a net positive on offense too and the playmaking at his position is a good weapon.

His PPG and shooting percentages are pretty Tony Allen-esque. I just don't see how you are a shoe-in with those numbers. The playmaking is certainly a good weapon but again inflated by the weapons he has in GS. Gobert didn't make the all-star team btw. He's good but there's definitely 12 western conference players I would take over Donkey in a given year.

[ElNono]

don't get the Leon Powe hate either... has as many rings, looked like an all star on a stacked team too, shut down MVPau... both role players in the right place at the right time...

[ElNono]

In Leon Powe's favor, he didn't cost his team a championship and didn't need to act like a little bitch either, tbh...

[spurraider21]

His PPG and shooting percentages are pretty Tony Allen-esque. I just don't see how you are a shoe-in with those numbers. The playmaking is certainly a good weapon but again inflated by the weapons he has in GS. Gobert didn't make the all-star team btw. He's good but there's definitely 12 western conference players I would take over Donkey in a given year.those shooting numbers are just this season, though. look at the two prior

[spurraider21]

In Leon Powe's favor, he didn't cost his team a championship and didn't need to act like a little bitch either, tbh...
https://i.gyazo.com/939baff30fa2c62ff3f8d20ca0aa3431.png

[Clipper Nation]

Or 10.2 pts on 41.8% shooting which was his season average.

He's a badass defender. His playmaking is pretty good, but obviously aided by the weapons he has in GS. He's not gifted enough offensively to sustain that level of playmaking in a more normal setting, imo. Really good player but definitely overhyped--don't see how he's considered an undisputed all-star with those offensive numbers or how he's such an overwhelming favorite over Gobert for DPOY.
Draymond's only a "badass defender" because the refs make it that way. He gets away with far-and-away more contact than anyone else in the league.

[ElNono]

https://i.gyazo.com/939baff30fa2c62ff3f8d20ca0aa3431.png

How does that answer the fact that Leon Powe didn't cost his team a championship nor he needed to act like a little bitch? :lol

[spurraider21]

How does that answer the fact that Leon Powe didn't cost his team a championship nor he needed to act like a little bitch? :lolyeah, i'm sorry, you've got to be impactful enough to actually cost a team a championship. nobody says shane heal cost the spurs a chip either

[UZER]

This is why I have a hard time respecting Draymond defensively. He's allowed by the refs to hold, grab, hand check, elbow with out fouls being called against him. Essentially he's allowed to play 90's defense which normally I wouldn't have a problem with other then the fact it has been outlawed by the rules.


Draymond's only a "badass defender" because the refs make it that way. He gets away with far-and-away more contact than anyone else in the league.

To add to that, he also gets away with blatant screaming in officials face after every damn call against him. It one thing to argue calls. It another to point in their faces and scream right at them, and have them actually walk far away just to avoid given him the T's. :lol

It's WWE level enabling.

[FkLA]

those shooting numbers are just this season, though. look at the two prior

Well even if that was the case he was still considered an undisputed all-star this year, why? The hype machine.

And I think last year was more out of the norm for him than this year. Career year last year but has seemingly come back down to earth. 42% this year, 44% two years ago, 43.5% for his career. That's Tony Allen-esque.

[ElNono]

yeah, i'm sorry, you've got to be impactful enough to actually cost a team a championship. nobody says shane heal cost the spurs a chip either

DeJuan Blair cost the Mavs a series too, tbh... 'impactful' is relative... just sayin'...

[spurraider21]

Well even if that was the case he was still considered an undisputed all-star this year, why? The hype machine.

And I think last year was more out of the norm for him than this year. Career year last year but has seemingly come back down to earth. 42% this year, 44% two years ago, 43.5% for his career. That's Tony Allen-esque.tony allen was a shooting guard who couldn't shoot and didn't really contribute much else (outside of layups in transition or cuts because he had decent athleticism) . green contributes with playmaking even if he isn't shooting well, and he plays the 4, where shooting isn't as big a premium. i dont think they're comparable at all offensively

i agree that his shooting numbers last year (particularly from 3) were out of the norm, but it's reasonable for him to settle at somewhere around 45% fg and 35% 3pt, which isn't bad considering everything else he brings to the offense

[spurraider21]

DeJuan Blair cost the Mavs a series too, tbh... 'impactful' is relative... just sayin'...i also know (or hope) you aren't serious with leon powe comparisons, so i'm not really thinkin too much into it

[dabom]

Tony allen never had Goat shooters like curry klay and durant. :lmao

[spurraider21]

Tony allen never had Goat shooters like curry klay and durant. :lmaohe was on the boston team with ray allen and paul pierce :lmao

[dabom]

he was on the boston team with ray allen and paul pierce :lmao

Comparing antiquated 3 point shooters with Curry, Durant, and Klay. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Comparing antiquated 3 point shooters with Curry, Durant, and Klay. :lmao

I'd still take "antiquated" Ray Allen over known playoff chokers like Stephanie, Durbeta and Klaynus, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Comparing antiquated 3 point shooters with Curry, Durant, and Klay. :lmaoallen is the goat shooter outside of curry (most 3pm ever, including clutch shots)... and pierce is #4 all time in 3 pointers made

and green was leading GSW to playoff wins last year even when curry was out (and obviously, durant wasn't on the team). you act like he shrivels up and sucks when the other guys miss games. sure, he benefits from their presence (who wouldn't?) but he's still a very good player when they're out. that's not even in question unless you just make shit up off the top of your head because it sounds nice for your argument

green wouldn't be a good #1 offensive option, but i dont think that's required to be an all-star, especially when you're an elite defender

[spurraider21]

posters are letting personal feelings impact their judgment. green is a mouth-breathing, unlikeable, dirty pos, but he's a very good player :lol

[james evans]

In the future, I'd like to see the officials call Green for a foul when he blocks dunks. He likes to use his forearm to get leverage on his jump and bring the dunker down for a block. He did it twice today and probably countless other times.

[daslicer]

posters are letting personal feelings impact their judgment. green is a mouth-breathing, unlikeable, dirty pos, but he's a very good player :lol

:lol Disagreement has nothing to do with feelings influencing judgment. Sounds like you are letting your ego get the better of you.

[spurraider21]

:lol Disagreement has nothing to do with feelings influencing judgment. Sounds like you are letting your ego get the better of you.when the counterpoints are fabricated or irrational (as in claiming ray allen and paul pierce aren't all-time shooters)... it's not objective at that point, and it's known that dabom has personal disdain towards draymond because he's sensitive to any player that gets kawhi comparisons in any way

[dabom]

Dude is still fluffing raymond? :lmao

[rasuo214]

Well even if that was the case he was still considered an undisputed all-star this year, why? The hype machine.

And I think last year was more out of the norm for him than this year. Career year last year but has seemingly come back down to earth. 42% this year, 44% two years ago, 43.5% for his career. That's Tony Allen-esque.

Tony Allen is an awful 3pt shooter but he still has a 47.5 FG%.

Draymond's percentages are on par with the likely MVP (Westbrook). Maybe Draymond needs to find a team that will let him chuck up 20+ shots a night.

[spurraider21]

arguing tony allen is a better offensive player than green... seriously? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Should be 3x DPOY by now tbh

[dabom]

Kawhi literally could defend better with a cardboard cut out instead of his starting pg. :lol

[rasuo214]

arguing tony allen is a better offensive player than green... seriously? :lol

If you're responding to me try re-reading.

[Fireball]

i hate raymond more than anything else (well, not as much as dabom) ... but people here playing down his superior defensive impact are only watching Kawhi with pink goggles

[RD2191]

System player, a product of Curry... He's basically 1st season DeJuan Blair with ACLs...

Has his coach, teammates and himself hyping and begging to get personal accolades, disgusting

He's a fat, undersized Leon Powe, tbh, in the right place at the right time

OP dropping truth nukes per day usual.

[140]

I'd still take "antiquated" Ray Allen over known playoff chokers like Stephanie, Durbeta and Klaynus, tbh.
:lol Today's NBA

[spursistan]

Raymond doesn't give a fuck about bullying the beta in front of everyone ..Holy shit look at KD submissiveness :lol..

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[NameLess Scrub]

Raymond can get away anytime, there was another play during the first half that got away with murder, it was a block on Krabbe I think, bitch slaps elbows, wrists and nobody says a thing.

He then proceeds to gloat like he's a GOAT shot blocker :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

To add to that, he also gets away with blatant screaming in officials face after every damn call against him. It one thing to argue calls. It another to point in their faces and scream right at them, and have them actually walk far away just to avoid given him the T's. :lol

It's WWE level enabling.

And people were complaining that the refs decided the Finals by suspending him :lol



DeJuan Blair cost the Mavs a series too, tbh... 'impactful' is relative... just sayin'...

A punch in the nuts is pretty impactful.



In the future, I'd like to see the officials call Green for a foul when he blocks dunks. He likes to use his forearm to get leverage on his jump and bring the dunker down for a block. He did it twice today and probably countless other times.

+1

[SpursFan86]

Draymond is an annoying piece of shit, but there's no denying that he's a top 3 defensive player in the league and is still a net positive on offense. He's a top 15-20 player in the league. Would you want him as the 1st option on your team? Of course not...that doesn't mean he doesn't have a huge impact on games and isn't an all-star caliber player.

That being said, I think it's a shame that he's going to get DPOY over Gobert. Gobert definitely deserves it IMO.

[dabom]

Draymond is an annoying piece of shit, but there's no denying that he's a top 3 defensive player in the league and is still a net positive on offense. He's a top 15-20 player in the league. Would you want him as the 1st option on your team? Of course not...that doesn't mean he doesn't have a huge impact on games and isn't an all-star caliber player.

That being said, I think it's a shame that he's going to get DPOY over Gobert. Gobert definitely deserves it IMO.

I always see you snobbing other team players. :lmao

[RD2191]

Fuck this overrated piece of shit. Probably one of the most overrated defenders of all time. Spurs need to go hard at this punk bitch.

[ElNono]

bump, tbh... dude is all hype... bailed out by Curry again, should've fouled out 3 times in this game, tbh

[FkLA]

Amazing role player.

Unquestionable all-star and Top 15 player is a bit much though. :lol

[RodNIc91]

Like Dabom said, supposedly guarding 1-5 :lmao:lmao:lmao

Nigga can't guard Kawhi. Period.

[dabom]

Besides one game. I have yet to see the Warriors stop Kawhi. EVER. :lol


Isn't raymond supposed to defend the 1-5? Why isn't he ever on Kawhi? :lol


Like Dabom said, supposedly guarding 1-5 :lmao:lmao:lmao

Nigga can't guard Kawhi. Period.

:lol

[Splits]

:lol

Never forget, ST. This faggot started the game thread with Kawhi's "healed ankle" in the title.

Faggot.

[spursistan]

Never forget, ST. This faggot started the game thread with Kawhi's "healed ankle" in the title.

Faggot.
:lol

[south side spur]

This piece of shit hacks the fuck out of Murray and these announcers call that a great contest? Can he play defense at all without pushing and shoving his man? Oh wait, he's undersized and fiery so he should be given the benefit of the doubt. This bum ain't shit as a defender compared to Kawhi, who gets no benefit and has to actually play fundamental defense while this fuck gets away with Murder.

[webshad]

This piece of shit hacks the fuck out of Murray and these announcers call that a great contest? Can he play defense at all without pushing and shoving his man? Oh wait, he's undersized and fiery so he should be given the benefit of the doubt. This bum ain't shit as a defender compared to Kawhi, who gets no benefit and has to actually play fundamental defense while this fuck gets away with Murder.

Donkey face is fortunate he never had to face a prime Shaq, or Duncan, or the Wallaces in Detroit.

Imagine what Shaq would have done to this nigga if he was behind him in the paint.

[south side spur]

Gasol is an embarrassment to the LGBT community but what this Green fucking gets away with is comical. Then you have Jackson slurping him actually saying no foul there when if you take away all his shoving this idiot has no shot at guarding anyone in the post. Anyone who says dumb things like he can guard 1-5 or he's a great defender is an idiot

[polandprzem]

Gasol is an embarrassment to the LGBT community but what this Green fucking gets away with is comical. Then you have Jackson slurping him actually saying no foul there when if you take away all his shoving this idiot has no shot at guarding anyone in the post. Anyone who says dumb things like he can guard 1-5 or he's a great defender is an idiot
+1

[HarlemHeat37]

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Classy man, tbh, showing love to Manu..also, unlike the other Warriors and Mike Brown, Draymond acknowledged that the series could have been different if the Spurs had Kawhi:lol

[Mikeanaro]

Gasol is an embarrassment to the LGBT community but what this Green fucking gets away with is comical. Then you have Jackson slurping him actually saying no foul there when if you take away all his shoving this idiot has no shot at guarding anyone in the post. Anyone who says dumb things like he can guard 1-5 or he's a great defender is an idiot
That happened to Perkins and Ibaka too, they had super defensive powers when refs had theirs backs.

[ElNono]

I gotta admit Raymond was classy in that video, tbh... still a product of Curry, tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

I gotta admit Raymond was classy in that video, tbh... still a product of Curry, tbh

Would you take him over Aldridge, though?

[ElNono]

Would you take him over Aldridge, though?

I want LMA gone, tbh, but no, I wouldn't take Raymond in replacement... he wouldn't work here... he needs 2-3 great players around him...

Plus he's an outspoken black man... you know how Pop deals with those...

[Nathan89]

Would you take him over Aldridge, though?

Yes, but he wouldn't get those inflated assists on the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

I want LMA gone, tbh, but no, I wouldn't take Raymond in replacement... he wouldn't work here... he needs 2-3 great players around him...

Plus he's an outspoken black man... you know how Pop deals with those...

Curry and Thompson reached new heights when Draymond was unleashed, tbh..not a coincidence..some players just make everybody better..Draymond reminds me of a heterosexual version of Magic Johnson with better defense..

[FkLA]

866892635897700352

Classy man, tbh, showing love to Manu..also, unlike the other Warriors and Mike Brown, Draymond acknowledged that the series could have been different if the Spurs had Kawhi:lol

Pretty disgusting that they're trying to turn the focus of that Manu moment into how classy Curry was for allowing it though. Even Marc Jackson turned the whole focus away from Manu and onto Curry's "classiness" during the broadcast, literally while the fucking curtain call was going on.

[HarlemHeat37]

Really?:lol I didn't watch the game, tbh..not surprising, though, Curry is the $$$ for the media..

[ElNono]

Curry and Thompson reached new heights when Draymond was unleashed, tbh..not a coincidence..some players just make everybody better..Draymond reminds me of a heterosexual version of Magic Johnson with better defense..

tbh, do you think Klay is going to show up to these Finals?

[Ice009]

Would you take him over Aldridge, though?

I actually wanted a Tim Duncan Draymond Green Kawhi Leonard lineup during that off-season, but I didn't even post about it as I was sure he wasn't looking to leave.

They Spurs could have gone after him instead of Aldridge if the Warriors tried stiffing him, but they paid him and we ened up with Aldridge.

I would have taken him over Aldridge because I was sure the NBA was moving to small ball.

However if I had a choice, I would have taken DeMarcus Cousins over both Draymond and LMA.

[99 Problems]

Klay was good today, 23.1% from the field. 3/13.

[daledondale]

Curry and Thompson reached new heights when Draymond was unleashed, tbh..not a coincidence..some players just make everybody better..Draymond reminds me of a heterosexual version of Magic Johnson with better defense..https://media.giphy.com/media/NLbivNFUwhoTm/giphy.gif
You're overrating him just because is black.


Pretty disgusting that they're trying to turn the focus of that Manu moment into how classy Curry was for allowing it though. Even Marc Jackson turned the whole focus away from Manu and onto Curry's "classiness" during the broadcast, literally while the fucking curtain call was going on.
This.

[DaBears]

Fuck this overrated piece of shit. Probably one of the most overrated defenders of all time. Spurs need to go hard at this punk bitch.

he singlehandedly shutdown Lamarsha.. I don't like the guy either but he is a winner, and can shoot the long ball as shown over his entire career.. He can push the break off a rebound and that is valuable when you don't have to give it up to your PG every time.

[spursistan]

872968726051782656

This nigga BEGGED in the parking lot of the arena after Game 7 :lmao..

[dabom]

Beta fucking pussies. :lmao

[spursistan]

Between Duncan saying "we'll do it this time" and this Donkey sitting in his car and begging for help moments after getting punked at home in Game 7 of NBA Finals, you can see the difference between a true and a fake ass competitor..

I wonder how will Warriors/Raymond fan, HarlemHeat37, spin this one..:lol

[dabom]

Soft as nigga. :lol

[spursistan]

"Best leader in the NBA" :lmao..

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[SAGirl]

872968726051782656

This nigga BEGGED in the parking lot of the arena after Game 7 :lmao..
I can't laugh when it worked...

[Snaq O'Meal]

"Best leader in the NBA" :lmao..

872956045659951104

Wasn't that blatant tampering?

[rastaspur]

What a little bitch.

[rastaspur]

Wasn't that blatant tampering?

Technically, yes. Textbook example. League doesnt give a fuck or either dont wanna play big brother to all the players. Its problematic to monitor to say the least.

However, if you admit it to the media that you did it then the league should make an example. If the sixers or some shit team was involved they might set an example. But not with the cash cow.

[daslicer]

Obviously in this thread I have said a bunch of times this guy is glorified role player but I will give him some credit. He's the greatest con artist to ever to play in the NBA. I have never seen an athlete with the great bullshitting skills that he has when it comes to manipulating people. He was able to manipulate his teammates in the '14-'15 season and become the leader of the team despite being an unproven role player. He was able to manipulate the media and coaches into believing he was a legit all-star. His biggest achievement out all of them was being able to manipulate Durant to sign with the Warriors.

[tholdren]

Obviously in this thread I have said a bunch of times this guy is glorified role player but I will give him some credit. He's the greatest con artist to ever to play in the NBA. I have never seen an athlete with the great bullshitting skills that he has when it comes to manipulating people. He was able to manipulate his teammates in the '14-'15 season and become the leader of the team despite being an unproven role player. He was able to manipulate the media and coaches into believing he was a legit all-star. His biggest achievement out all of them was being able to manipulate Durant to sign with the Warriors.

Yet he still wouldnt have gotten oit of wcf w healthy sa

[daslicer]

Yet he still wouldnt have gotten oit of wcf w healthy sa

I definitely agree.

[ElNono]

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Can't even keep mommy in check...

[Ditty]

Not the refs fault that your son was terrible tonight

[daslicer]

Like I said earlier he is the greatest con artist to ever play in the league. He was able to con the refs out of getting ejected when they called a tech on him. I have never seen a player do that before.

[Mikeanaro]

I´ve never seen something like this, seriously he had a Technical foul and then it was transferred to Kerr.

[south side spur]

This piece of shit hacks the fuck out of everyone he defends and these announcers say great contest every time? Can he play defense at all without pushing and shoving his man? Oh wait, he's undersized and fiery so he should be given the benefit of the doubt. This bum ain't shit as a defender compared to Kawhi, who gets no benefit and has to actually play fundamental defense while this fuck gets away with Murder.

[spurraider21]

FkLA ^ thats what i'm talking about

[HarlemHeat37]

As versatile of a defender he is, he is still and undersized tweener forward.. Aldridge will go apeshit on him in a 7 game series...
https://media.tenor.com/images/997676096852ca4e597b68c188f1615a/tenor.gif

[cd98]

Well he did shut down LMA in the post. But I guess Harden and Curry did too.

[cd98]

I do think Green is a good system defender. Basically he's a system player. But he actually has an easier job then say Kawhi or Gobert. Kawhi is a perimeter defender. Given the hand checking rules, guarding pg, sg, and sf on the perimeter is the toughest defensive assignment. Second toughest is guarding the rim. That's Gobert trying to intimidate shots the perimeter players get at the rim. Green just guards low end centers and power forwards on the blocks. Most of those guys don't have back to the basket moves and are too slow to abuse Green on the perimeter. But he's a great player bc he plays on GSW and media loves GSW.

[UZER]

They call everything on the perimeter now. They call nothing in the post now.

[Nathan89]

http://i.imgur.com/fFYglOd.png

His TS% without one player even though he gets to play with other very talented players:lmao

[spurraider21]

http://i.imgur.com/fFYglOd.png

His TS% without one player even though he gets to play with other very talented players:lmao
looks like its pretty constant across the entire team :lol... using this to single out green is retarded

[dabom]

Except he is the only allstar to go from shit to pedestrian numbers. :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

http://i.imgur.com/fFYglOd.png

His TS% without one player even though he gets to play with other very talented players:lmao

McCaw = product of Curry

[spursistan]

935387328310280192

this nigga getting in Top 10 lists is pretty pathetic.

Losing to the Kings at home :lmao..

[daslicer]

935387328310280192

this nigga getting in Top 10 lists is pretty pathetic.

Losing to the Kings at home :lmao..

His defense is also overrated. He couldn't stop Bogodonavic from getting into the paint for the easy layup to win the game.

[tbdog]

His defense is only good because of the media reputation. Ref's let him get away with far more than he should. He is extremely physical one on one. He does have good iq and rotates well. But getting the award last season over Gobert was a joke.

[SAGirl]

935387328310280192

this nigga getting in Top 10 lists is pretty pathetic.

Losing to the Kings at home :lmao..
11 3 pt shots... wow :wow
Dude though he was a real shooter heh? the assists don't impress me either. Gasol and Kyle are capable of similar numbers on any given night with a depleted Spurs roster the past 20 games that has been playing rookies, 2nd year players, and undrafted agents, with Patty not shooting well, while also winning some games.

[DPG21920]

They are the most elite role players there are, not true franchise quality players. People still underestimate how good Curry/KD are and their gravity and how much that helps on both ends.

Klay/Dray are very good players but they are given too much credit as stand-alone talents.

[daslicer]

They are the most elite role players there are, not true franchise quality players. People still underestimate how good Curry/KD are and their gravity and how much that helps on both ends.

Klay/Dray are very good players but they are given too much credit as stand-alone talents.

I have never seen a role player to be able to get into all-star games like Draymond has. I do believe Draymond would be a bum on a normal team. I think Klay would still be a 20 point scorer on any other team but would not win many games as a number 1 option.

[DPG21920]

He would not be a bum but he would certainly not be an all-star. Even Klay/Dray together on the same team built around them would be a good but not great team.

[dabom]

He would not be a bum but he would certainly not be an all-star. Even Klay/Dray together on the same team built around them would be a good but not great team.
Not even a playoff team in the west. :lmao

[DPG21920]

Not even a playoff team in the west. :lmao

Yes they would. They have won playoff games without Curry playing before. They are overrated as elite players but they are still really, really good.

[Down Under]

I don't know how you can compare Draymond & Klay. Thompson is a spot up shooter who no longer players defense, as good as shooter as he is, he's still a 1 way role player. Draymond is an elite role player - can defend, shoot 3's, collapse defenses by rolling to the rim and being able to pass or finish. You could argue Dwight Howard in his prime in Orlando couldn't create his own shot - was generally a pick and roll player, who could get deep position after rolling, catch, pivot & finish quickly because of his size & athleticism. You couldn't just dump the ball into him in the post & operate. But he was still one of the best players in the league.

[dabom]

Yes they would. They have won playoff games without Curry playing before. They are overrated as elite players but they are still really, really good.

Nah they aren't. Next question.

[ElNono]

You can look at Harrison Barnes for an example of where this overrated dude is heading if Chef drops his hand...

[james evans]

Yes they would. They have won playoff games without Curry playing before. They are overrated as elite players but they are still really, really good.
playoff games? they won a SERIES(Houston) without Curry

[daslicer]

playoff games? they won a SERIES(Houston) without Curry

That's not really an accomplishment to be honest considering Houston is known to choke and give up. Just look at last year when Harden quit in game 6 against a Spurs team that did not have Parker and Kawhi.

[TD 21]

I have never seen a role player to be able to get into all-star games like Draymond has. I do believe Draymond would be a bum on a normal team. I think Klay would still be a 20 point scorer on any other team but would not win many games as a number 1 option.

I have, his name is Thompson. :wakeup



I don't know how you can compare Draymond & Klay. Thompson is a spot up shooter who no longer players defense, as good as shooter as he is, he's still a 1 way role player. Draymond is an elite role player - can defend, shoot 3's, collapse defenses by rolling to the rim and being able to pass or finish. You could argue Dwight Howard in his prime in Orlando couldn't create his own shot - was generally a pick and roll player, who could get deep position after rolling, catch, pivot & finish quickly because of his size & athleticism. You couldn't just dump the ball into him in the post & operate. But he was still one of the best players in the league.

:tu

[spursistan]

Bump..

At what point does an 11/7 guy who keeps getting regular All-Star nods become a joke? Getting one over Paul George is a travesty..

[Ice009]

This guy is a piece of shit.

I would love it if Kawhi was allowed to play defense like this clown. If Kawhi could foul, grab, push, pull, like this fucker seems to be able to get away with, Kawhi would be so far ahead of everyone else he'd be looking at winning 5 or 6 DPOY awards in a row.

[Jules_Winnfield]

Bump..

At what point does an 11/7 guy who keeps getting regular All-Star nods become a joke? Getting one over Paul George is a travesty..

http://www.espn.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/5017/draymond-green-says-warriors-should-get-four-all-stars-again

Lowry, Horford, Thompson and Green with another "we have a good record" All Star appearance (DeRozan, Irving, Curry, Durant would be enough). Four players from one team is also not fair IMO.

Drummond over Horford.

Dragic/Whiteside over Lowry.

Paul over Thompson.

Williams/Griffin/George over Green.

Also this:
https://twitter.com/DevinBook/status/955961418515402754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdevinbook

:lmao

[daslicer]

Bump..

At what point does an 11/7 guy who keeps getting regular All-Star nods become a joke? Getting one over Paul George is a travesty..

Lonzo Ball's numbers are nearly identical to Draymonds. Funny how one is considered a bust while the other is considered an all-star. I think Draymond unfortunately will continue to get the nod for the all-star game until the Warriors are no longer contenders. He's going to get a bunch of selections that he doesn't deserve much like how Kobe got a bunch of All-NBA defensive team selections that weren't deserved. Ultimately this shows how dumb the coaches are since they are the ones who keep selecting him.

[daslicer]

This guy is a piece of shit.

I would love it if Kawhi was allowed to play defense like this clown. If Kawhi could foul, grab, push, pull, like this fucker seems to be able to get away with, Kawhi would be so far ahead of everyone else he'd be looking at winning 5 or 6 DPOY awards in a row.

I have said it for a while the refs allow him to play 90's style defense of handchecking which is now illegal. Put him on any other team and he's fouling out of every game and is eventually a bench player or is sent to the G-League. He also has the worst jumpshot out of any starting PF in the league.

[spurraider21]

one of the best defensive players in the league who is also a versatile/net positive on offense. yeah he's an allstar. ST just hates him because he draws "best defensive player in the league" attention instead of our treasured kawhi. same with why lakerfans hated bron

[phxspurfan]

Ultimately this shows how dumb the coaches are since they are the ones who keep selecting him.

Coaches like defense and guys who hustle, so it makes sense how an 11/7 guy who can defend all 5 positions on a winning team makes it over guys like Devin Booker who are pure offensive guys on losing teams. Doesn't make it right, or appealing to casuals, but I can see how coaches would pick this kind of player. But what I don't understand is with the same logic how Dray makes it over multi-dimensional guys on decent teams like Griffin, Paul, and Paul George.

[TheGreatYacht]

The OG Big 3 of Duncan, Parker, and Bowen never made the all star game together, yet these system faggots Klay and Raymond are perennial all stars?! Fuck outta here

[TheGreatYacht]

one of the best defensive players in the league who is also a versatile/net positive on offense. yeah he's an allstar. ST just hates him because he draws "best defensive player in the league" attention instead of our treasured kawhi. same with why lakerfans hated bron
Yeahhhhhhhh, no. He's posting his worst defensive numbers since his rookie season. I could understand last year when he was clearly the best in the league on that side but he's been far from it this year.

[dabom]

Fast paced offense and averages what again? :lmao

[spurraider21]

Yeahhhhhhhh, no. He's posting his worst defensive numbers since his rookie season. I could understand last year when he was clearly the best in the league on that side but he's been far from it this year.
admittedly haven't looked at his metrics this year, just speaking on overall body of work.

[TheGreatYacht]

admittedly haven't looked at his metrics this year, just speaking on overall body of work.
On the Spurs he'd rank 4th in defensive win shares and 5th in defensive box plus/minus

So yea, his effort on that side hasn't been enough of a case to let him and Brandon Bass-esque regular stats in the all star game tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think he deserves it this year, but superstars have been getting in by reputation for as long as I've been watching the NBA, tbh..

[spurraider21]

I don't think he deserves it this year, but superstars have been getting in by reputation for as long as I've been watching the NBA, tbh..
this is true. last year people here wanted LMA to make it :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

this is true. last year people here wanted LMA to make it :lol

I can understand the criticism towards the selection of Draymond for his individual play, but also the argument that the Warriors don't deserve 4 guys in the game..they aren't destroying the league enough to warrant 4..

Still, the fans are getting what they want..they're the most popular team since Jordan's Bulls..

[SAGirl]

one of the best defensive players in the league who is also a versatile/net positive on offense. yeah he's an allstar. ST just hates him because he draws "best defensive player in the league" attention instead of our treasured kawhi. same with why lakerfans hated bron
nah... if he was playing anywhere else he really wouldn't be an all star.. (nor would he have as many assists)... he complements GSW stars very well but on his own his talent level is not all star level.

[r0drig0lac]

Lonzo Ball ..lmao

[daslicer]

Paul Pierce took a shot at Draymond by saying that he felt Paul George should have gone over him.

[ElNono]

Paul Pierce took a shot at Draymond by saying that he felt Paul George should have gone over him.

Draymond's mom will have a word with him, tbh

[daslicer]

Draymond's mom will have a word with him, tbh

Pierce and Draymond both have a history of not respecting each other.

eTG_zMYQ4xM

[SAGirl]

Pierce is kinda blabber mouth... he wouldn’t have traded Lamarcus Aldridge last season for himself in his last washed up season... probably added to tanking Lamarcus value not that it needed tanking but Pierce is kinda like a spurstalk troll.

[daslicer]

Pierce is kinda blabber mouth... he wouldn’t have traded Lamarcus Aldridge last season for himself in his last washed up season... probably added to tanking Lamarcus value not that it needed tanking but Pierce is kinda like a spurstalk troll.

Pierce is a troll but I don't give a shit since he's disrespecting Draymond.

[daslicer]

Coaches like defense and guys who hustle, so it makes sense how an 11/7 guy who can defend all 5 positions on a winning team makes it over guys like Devin Booker who are pure offensive guys on losing teams. Doesn't make it right, or appealing to casuals, but I can see how coaches would pick this kind of player. But what I don't understand is with the same logic how Dray makes it over multi-dimensional guys on decent teams like Griffin, Paul, and Paul George.


The idea that Draymond can defend 5 positions is a myth. He can not guard a legit big like Demarcus Cousins, Embiid,Jokic. He's not also going to be able to guard an explosive guards like Westbrook, Irving. He can not guard great 3's like George,Kawhi,Lebron. I'll give you this that he's a good hustle player.

[spursistan]

Bump..

1st option Donkey :lmao..

Losing to the Kings at home and down 10 to the fuckin Suns..

[exstatic]

This is why you should take anyone past the top two on any team with a grain of salt. He’s getting exposed as a rotational player who feasts off of the coverage of three other stars.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't understand the excitement over this Draymond stretch from the haters..trolling aside, even fans like myself would never expect him to carry a team's offense, he's the best defensive player in the league and a great complimentary piece..

[Nathan89]

He gets away with the most defensive fouls in the league as well.

[Raven]

you know what, he's good, i'm done hating him.

[SAGirl]

I don't understand the excitement over this Draymond stretch from the haters..trolling aside, even fans like myself would never expect him to carry a team's offense, he's the best defensive player in the league and a great complimentary piece..
Complimentary pieces and defensive players aren't all stars with extreme hype though...They tend to be underrated members of teams except to the teams fans like a Danny Green..

[HarlemHeat37]

Complimentary pieces and defensive players aren't all stars with extreme hype though...They tend to be underrated members of teams except to the teams fans like a Danny Green..

No, Danny Green is just a role player(2014-2015 Green was comparable to Draymond, but that was just 1 season)..Draymond isn't comparable to guys like that or Ariza or Bruce Bowen types..he's a legitimate defensive anchor with high-level passing ability..

Being a defensive anchor with other skills will get you an All-Star selection in any era, I'm certain that guys like Ben Wallace and Mutombo earned many..

[SAGirl]

No, Danny Green is just a role player(2014-2015 Green was comparable to Draymond, but that was just 1 season)..Draymond isn't comparable to guys like that or Ariza or Bruce Bowen types..he's a legitimate defensive anchor with high-level passing ability..

Being a defensive anchor with other skills will get you an All-Star selection in any era, I'm certain that guys like Ben Wallace and Mutombo earned many..
K I Disagree that he's the best defensive player in the league though...So we have very different premises.

[ElNono]

lmao, Bruce Bowen shits all over Raymond, tbh...

It's hard to even explain what his defensive prowess is, tbh, he's undersized, average/below-average rebounder/shot blocker, nothing to phone home about in steals...

Other than throwing a temper tantrum/chimping out whenever he gets called for a foul, there's nothing special there... but this is the age of the soft NBA, it's all about entertainment, and the product has succeeded like that, so I suppose we're still going to see average players getting hyped because they're loud, tbh...

[spurraider21]

lmao, Bruce Bowen shits all over Raymond, tbh...

It's hard to even explain what his defensive prowess is, tbh, he's undersized, average/below-average rebounder/shot blocker, nothing to phone home about in steals...

Other than throwing a temper tantrum/chimping out whenever he gets called for a foul, there's nothing special there... but this is the age of the soft NBA, it's all about entertainment, and the product has succeeded like that, so I suppose we're still going to see average players getting hyped because they're loud, tbh...
Crofl using steals and blocks while trying to elevate Bowen in the same thought.

[Mikeanaro]

Raymond slaps elbows and crop dusts to get his dirty steals.

[Hoops Czar]

If Green were playing for any other team, he'd be an afterthought right now. But it's nice to see him stat padding versus arguably the worst team in the NBA.

[Ice009]

I don't understand the excitement over this Draymond stretch from the haters..trolling aside, even fans like myself would never expect him to carry a team's offense, he's the best defensive player in the league and a great complimentary piece..

He's not the best defensive player in the league at all. He is allowed to foul like crazy, especially in the last 5 minutes of a game in crunch time. He's allowed to pull, grab, push and even kick people in the nuts, basically, do whatever he wants, and I presume he gets that leeway because he plays for the Warriors. If Kawhi was healthy and allowed to play the same type of physical defense along with his regular Kawhi defense, Draymond would be a distant second.

Sorry, I'm not buying that shit. Keep the "best defensive player in the league" comments to yourself. I won't stand to hear that shit.

[ElNono]

Crofl using steals and blocks while trying to elevate Bowen in the same thought.

Just trying to figure out what’s his defensive prowess... Kawhi has the steals, rebounding, TD and Big Ben had the rim protection, Bruce you could put on almost anybody and he’ll shut them down... Draymond doesn’t fit any of that on the defensive side. I mean, he’s not even the dirtiest defender on his own team...

[ceds]

when the playoffs start is when draymonds D really shines.

agree he's the best defensive anchor in the league

[BillMc]

when the playoffs start is when draymonds D really shines.



Like when he cost his team a championship in '16?

[Seventyniner]

No, Danny Green is just a role player(2014-2015 Green was comparable to Draymond, but that was just 1 season)..Draymond isn't comparable to guys like that or Ariza or Bruce Bowen types..he's a legitimate defensive anchor with high-level passing ability..

Being a defensive anchor with other skills will get you an All-Star selection in any era, I'm certain that guys like Ben Wallace and Mutombo earned many..

That's the point. Peak Danny didn't even sniff an All-Star berth and Draymond gets in every year. If Draymond had one All-Star appearance ever you wouldn't see nearly this level of complaining.

[duncan2k5]

Draymond plays average D...he is just allowed to foul hard...dude makes some very obvious fouls that dokt get called

[r0drig0lac]

He's not the best defensive player in the league at all. He is allowed to foul like crazy, especially in the last 5 minutes of a game in crunch time. He's allowed to pull, grab, push and even kick people in the nuts, basically, do whatever he wants, and I presume he gets that leeway because he plays for the Warriors. If Kawhi was healthy and allowed to play the same type of physical defense along with his regular Kawhi defense, Draymond would be a distant second.

Sorry, I'm not buying that shit. Keep the "defensive player in the league" comments to yourself. I won't stand to hear that shit.

[dabom]

This fucking nut kicker ain't even good. Averages shit on the fastest pace team. :lol

He can't score worth of shit. :lol

[UZER]

Raymond was already getting exposed in 2016. The only thing that saved his ass is Beta Durant joined is team the next year.

Matter fact, the Warriors team was already showing cracks in 2016. If KD doesn’t jump ship, that whole team is exposed as a one hit wonder.

[Clipper Nation]

Just trying to figure out what’s his defensive prowess... Kawhi has the steals, rebounding, TD and Big Ben had the rim protection, Bruce you could put on almost anybody and he’ll shut them down... Draymond doesn’t fit any of that on the defensive side. I mean, he’s not even the dirtiest defender on his own team...
Draymond has the officiating. The refs basically play defense for him by letting him do whatever the hell he wants. If a team like the Kings or Magic drafted him instead of the league's darlings, he'd probably be playing against Jimmer in China by now, tbh.

[daledondale]

Draymond has the officiating. The refs basically play defense for him by letting him do whatever the hell he wants. If a team like the Kings or Magic drafted him instead of the league's darlings, he'd probably be playing against Jimmer in China by now, tbh.

[ceds]

Like when he cost his team a championship in '16?

yeah fair enough

i was just having flashbacks of him making LMA his bitch

[daslicer]

He showed tonight he was a scrub. He sucked so bad he used getting hit in the nuts as an excuse not to play for the rest of the game.

[Nathan89]

Scrub scared of being exposed.

[ElNono]

system player, like I said in the OP... living off reputation and Zaza these days... look at Zaza shutting down LMA with this scrub out...

[daslicer]

system player, like I said in the OP... living off reputation and Zaza these days... look at Zaza shutting down LMA with this scrub out...

Spurs benefited from Draymond playing in this game. Without him the Warriors have gone on a big run.

[ElNono]

Haven't seen a player quit on his teammates like that since Kawhi, tbh... smdh

[spurs10]

His elbow is in bad shape!

[Mikeanaro]

His elbow is in bad shape!
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[phxspurfan]

975914017209413632

Whoa wtf is dat

[Mikeanaro]

Whoa wtf is dat
One helluva bump
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[LaMarcus Bryant]

Just needs to be drained. No big deal. He'll still be butt fucking and flagrant fouling with no regard

[tbdog]

He has made the allstar team twice in a row. To put that in perspective, he is a top 30 player. To put that in perspective even more, he would be the best player on at least one team in the league. All I can say to that is 'fuck no.'

[K...]

The sad thing is someone told pop lauvergne was the French dray and it's been true. He's been very drayful

[SAGirl]

He has made the allstar team twice in a row. To put that in perspective, he is a top 30 player. To put that in perspective even more, he would be the best player on at least one team in the league. All I can say to that is 'fuck no.'
Yup. You change Aldridge with him on the Spurs and Spurs are lottery bound. And I am giving you the player that was picked last in the ASG...

[TheGreatYacht]

RIP the "Donkey<3" thread :lol

[daslicer]

Yup. You change Aldridge with him on the Spurs and Spurs are lottery bound. And I am giving you the player that was picked last in the ASG...

LMA wasn't even the worst player in the ASG. He just got screwed over by some hschool level bs by not being in Lebron or Curry's clique.

[r0drig0lac]

975914017209413632


idgaf
I hope he die

[ElNono]

975914017209413632

Hopefully that's what AIDS looks like

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yup. You change Aldridge with him on the Spurs and Spurs are lottery bound. And I am giving you the player that was picked last in the ASG...

True. Draymond for Jonathon Simmons would be a decent trade, and the Magic don't get any better.

[Pavlov]

Hopefully that's what AIDS looks likeMember Joe Montana's bursa sac?
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HonestRevolvingIsopod-size_restricted.gif
Oh yeah, I member!

[Mikeanaro]

Lol this thread is hilarious, Raymond makes us better people.
:worthy:He is the BLOAT

[UZER]

Yup. You change Aldridge with him on the Spurs and Spurs are lottery bound. And I am giving you the player that was picked last in the ASG...

Crazy that he’s already been an all star twice, yet in the long run of Tim Tony and Manu, they never once made the all star game all in the same year.

[cd98]

Crazy that he’s already been an all star twice, yet in the long run of Tim Tony and Manu, they never once made the all star game all in the same year.

That's true, but two things. One, the all star game is lame. Two, it's a popularity contest. GSW are popular with the media. The media despised the Spurs until 2014. By then, the big three were in decline and Kawhi was the up and coming talent.

[Seventyniner]

That's true, but two things. One, the all star game is lame. Two, it's a popularity contest. GSW are popular with the media. The media despised the Spurs until 2014. By then, the big three were in decline and Kawhi was the up and coming talent.

Agreed. Tony and Manu have fewer All-Star appearances than they deserve, especially Manu. If the Warriors are consistently getting 4 All-Stars the Spurs should have had 3 every year in the 2003-2007 stretch.

[tbdog]

Yup. You change Aldridge with him on the Spurs and Spurs are lottery bound. And I am giving you the player that was picked last in the ASG...

I'm telling you, trade Daymond for Drummond and the Warriors are even better. And I don't rate Drummond highly.

[UZER]

That's true, but two things. One, the all star game is lame. Two, it's a popularity contest. GSW are popular with the media. The media despised the Spurs until 2014. By then, the big three were in decline and Kawhi was the up and coming talent.



Agreed. Tony and Manu have fewer All-Star appearances than they deserve, especially Manu. If the Warriors are consistently getting 4 All-Stars the Spurs should have had 3 every year in the 2003-2007 stretch.

Yeah that’s my point. As good and dominant as they were during that stretch, they never all got in for the myriad of excuse when it came to them. But these other teams have consistently had 3 and or 4 get in because of “best record”, “defending champ”, “they’re just fun”, or the worst one “hype”.

[TheGreatYacht]

Unibrow, just like any other offensively talented big in the league, just finished skull fucking Donkey smh. With the emergence of Quinn Cook... is the mouth breather even a Top 4 player for them anymore? His defense this year has been the worst since his rookie year btw. That usually made up for his post 2014 Boris Diaw offense.

I'm sorry but you ain't a DPOY if you need double team help each time you're against an Allstar big. Cute little system player though. <3

[TheGreatYacht]

A fucking all star :lol

As big as a joke as Kyle Korver and Jamal Magloire making it.

Mainstream media is usually 2 years late on things so we'll see if he receives any DPOY votes. It would be a joke if he even made 2nd team all defense.

[daslicer]

Who was Draymond guarding in the Pelicans game. Judging by the boxscores both Mirotic and Davis went off on Draymond in this game.

[Raven]

A fucking all star :lol

As big as a joke as Kyle Korver and Jamal Magloire making it.

Mainstream media is usually 2 years late on things so we'll see if he receives any DPOY votes. It would be a joke if he even made 2nd team all defense.

It wouldn't imo, some metrics put him pretty high and defenders have been hard to come by this year. He's been getting worse though.

[HarlemHeat37]

12 points, 11 assists, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and a block while anchoring a dominant defense today..playoffs Draymond is terrifying, tbh..

He was clearly coasting during the RS, as expected:lol

[ElNono]

He’s like the opposite of Carmelo Aldridge? :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

He’s like the opposite of Carmelo Aldridge? :lol

People will claim that LA struggled due to double teams, but the reality is that he was terrible against single coverage, as well..he struggled against JaVale fucking McGee:lol..

[Kawhitstorm]

12 points, 11 assists, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and a block while anchoring a dominant defense today..playoffs Draymond is terrifying, tbh..

He was clearly coasting during the RS, as expected:lol

Steven Adams will bend him over like his sister bends over her husband

[Kawhitstorm]

People will claim that LA struggled due to double teams, but the reality is that he was terrible against single coverage, as well..he struggled against JaVale fucking McGee:lol..

The DeFrozen of bigmen:lmao (Shoulda traded him for ChewBaka)

[TIMMYtoZO]

12 points, 11 assists, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and a block while anchoring a dominant defense today..playoffs Draymond is terrifying, tbh..

He was clearly coasting during the RS, as expected:lol


Glad to see you are still holding shit down here my nigga. I missed you, Harlem. I really did. Best poster on this forum.

[Hoops Czar]

Glad to see you are still holding shit down here my nigga. I missed you, Harlem. I really did. Best poster on this forum.
I'm pretty sure you died in a skiing accident.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I'm pretty sure you died in a skiing accident.


This faggot still posts here? The fuck?

[HarlemHeat37]

Glad to see you are still holding shit down here my nigga. I missed you, Harlem. I really did. Best poster on this forum.

Wtf? I thought you died?:wow

[ElNono]

Glad to see you are still holding shit down here my nigga. I missed you, Harlem. I really did. Best poster on this forum.

sup brah! legend

[JohnnyMax]

That was a BS flagrant on Draymond lol dude was all over his arm on that shot and dude missed a FT

[ElNono]

Most protected player in the league... Any Spurs does that and then the mocking after the freethrow and it's a 5 game automatic suspension, tbh...

But you can't touch him because he's with the progressive team in the league, tbh

[CGD]

He’s definitely taken a step back this year. His three ball is terrible and he has lost a step on defense

[HarlemHeat37]

He's the best leader in the game and it isn't even close, he showed it tonight, tbh..that team feeds off his energy..

[UZER]

He's the best leader in the game and it isn't even close, he showed it tonight, tbh..that team feeds off his energy..

Dude gets away with everything out there.

[ceds]

He's the best leader in the game and it isn't even close, he showed it tonight, tbh..that team feeds off his energy..

agree with this.....he's probably the most unique player in the L

Top level defender, elite playmaking for his position, leadership & energy

[ElNono]

Can you imagine Poop coaching this guy, tbh? :lmao

[daslicer]

He was garbage tonight. 2-9 shooting, 5 rebounds and shitty defense couldn't check Lamarcus or Rudy when switched on either.

[hater]

:lol

[tbdog]

He's the best leader in the game and it isn't even close, he showed it tonight, tbh..that team feeds off his energy..

He might be the best leader for the Warriors but they have poor leaders in general. Draymond is just loud. And how does he not get T up after that flagrant wannabe foul?

[HarlemHeat37]

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[diego]

i think hes a great player, not top 10 or anything like that but an all around player, great competitor who likes to get physical is always going to be a difference maker- i think hes the second most important player they have after curry. I just cant stand how he gets away with taunting opponents and berating the officials (especially if the dubs are down or its a close game). Ive seen too many players get Td up for far far less, its too obvious that the league lets him get away with it, starting with the nutcracker saga.

I was so mad when Bertans missed that freethrow too, need to shut his ass up, Im sure the antics will continue in SA especially if the spurs get a lead again.

[daslicer]

He's a loose cannon. If the Warriors ever get down in a series look for him to get suspended by doing something that is very stupid.

[HarlemHeat37]

987017524536643585

[hater]

:lmao this thread :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

17 points, 19 rebounds and 7 assists..Jesus..

[tbdog]

He plays 2vs1, 3vs2. He shot 45% and 30% on completely open shots. The vast majority of his assists are created by hockey passes from Durant. He was unable to guard Gay or Lma effectively one on one. Replace Durant with Barnes and he gets completely exposed.

[hater]

He plays 2vs1, 3vs2. He shot 45% and 30% on completely open shots. The vast majority of his assists are created by hockey passes from Durant. He was unable to guard Gay or Lma effectively one on one. Replace Durant with Barnes and he gets completely exposed.

Yeah hes obviously a scrub :lmao

[MultiTroll]

The foul call Rudy Gay was hit with after Donkey climbed on his back.
The *putback* rebound after the Spurs had drawn to within 2 very late in Game 5.

Fake snowflake media made *star*.

[tbdog]

The foul call Rudy Gay was hit with after Donkey climbed on his back.
The *putback* rebound after the Spurs had drawn to within 2 very late in Game 5.

Fake snowflake media made *star*.

That, and LMA getting called with a push off on Looney, and we could be playing one more.

[hater]

17 points, 19 rebounds and 7 assists..Jesus..

Hes obviously a team cancer :lmao

[tbdog]

The foul call Rudy Gay was hit with after Donkey climbed on his back.
The *putback* rebound after the Spurs had drawn to within 2 very late in Game 5.

Fake snowflake media made *star*.

4th best player on his team. Teams game plan is to give him space. Gets away with murder on defense. Star protection. We put our starting pg on him.

[HarlemHeat37]

List of players with 17-19-7 in a playoff game:

- Tim Duncan
- Patrick Ewing
- Kevin Garnett
- Michael Jordan
- Charles Barkley
- LeBron James
- DRAYMOND GREEN

[hater]

4th best player on his team. Teams game plan is to give him space. Gets away with murder on defense. Star protection. We put our starting pg on him.

top 3 players in Golden State are future first ballot HOFers btw :lol

[SpursBig3s]

top 3 players in Golden State are future first ballot HOFers btw :lol


LMAO Klay is not first ballot dumbass :lol

[lefty]

Shat on the Spurms and all the fat San Antonians who have never touched a basket ball

:lol

[Gagnrath]

Green is a star because he is a vocal teammate and leader on a Hollywood team of the moment. In some ways he is to the warriors what Rodman was to the Bulls. In fact give him some hair dye and the resemblance would be amazing. They even both have a kicking problem. However Kerr is downplaying the antics and bad-boy attitude because he is aware of public perception.

[sasaint]

Antics, personality - even proclivity for dirty play - aside, dude's skill is undeniable. If he were a Spur, I would love him - even if he made me cringe at times.

[E20]

Respect to Draymond for taking the time to pay some real respects to Pop and his late wife at the end of his post-game interview.

[hater]

:lmao Draydonkey almost a tripple double in the first half

Where is that retard poster that said he would have trouble with Anthony Davis :lmao

[BSfromTX]

“Only makes wide open shots”

hmm, wish spurs players could do that

[hater]

“Only makes wide open shots”

hmm, wish spurs players could do that

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

In a game featuring Dominos, Anthony Davis and Klay Thompson, Draymond was the best player on the floor:wow

[ElNono]

Hopefully his temper doesn't pull another Lebron and costs his team another championship... being bitchmade is probably his biggest weakness...

Even if this guy is a product of NBA marketing, I rather the Dubs win over the Rockets, tbh...

[r0drig0lac]

Hopefully his temper doesn't pull another Lebron and costs his team another championship... being bitchmade is probably his biggest weakness...

Even if this guy is a product of NBA marketing, I rather the Dubs win over the Rockets, tbh...

[HarlemHeat37]

-Oscar Robertson
- Wilt Chamberlain
-Magic Johnson
-Jason Kidd
-Russell Westbrook
-Draymond Green vs. the Pelicans

The list of players with a triple-double average in a playoff series:lol

What if you include 1 steal and block per game? Then it's just Draymond:lmao how can anybody doubt his impact?

[Kawhitstorm]

-Oscar Robertson
- Wilt Chamberlain
-Magic Johnson
-Jason Kidd
-Russell Westbrook
-Draymond Green vs. the Pelicans

The list of players with a triple-double average in a playoff series:lol

What if you include 1 steal and block per game? Then it's just Draymond:lmao how can anybody doubt his impact?

Curry carrying all those bums on a broken ankle/heart courtesy Killa Kyrie:lmao

[ElNono]

-Oscar Robertson
- Wilt Chamberlain
-Magic Johnson
-Jason Kidd
-Russell Westbrook
-Draymond Green vs. the Pelicans

The list of players with a triple-double average in a playoff series:lol

What if you include 1 steal and block per game? Then it's just Draymond:lmao how can anybody doubt his impact?

tbh, haven't kept up with this series... looking at those numbers, I assume Chef is back?

[spurraider21]

tbh, haven't kept up with this series... looking at those numbers, I assume Chef is back?
raymond averaged a double double and 8 assists against sperms without chef...

[ElNono]

raymond averaged a double double and 8 assists against sperms without chef...

lel spers were first round fodder, tbh.. and no triple doubles?

[hater]

:lmao this thread

[ElNono]

ElMexicaNoNo with the goods :tu

:lol

[J_Paco]

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/22/17382860/james-harden-dunks-on-draymond-green-poster-dunk-chris-webber-reaction-rockets-warriors-game-4

LOL

Enjoy your poster, Draymond!


https://youtu.be/_-Oz7SIDLik

Love seeing this overrated role player shitted on!

[Capt Bringdown]

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/22/17382860/james-harden-dunks-on-draymond-green-poster-dunk-chris-webber-reaction-rockets-warriors-game-4

LOL

Enjoy your poster, Draymond!


https://youtu.be/_-Oz7SIDLik

Love seeing this overrated role player shitted on!

Should have been a flagrant - notice how Draymond pushed Hardin in the face as the play ended.
I think the key to beating the Warriors is a big man punishing Draymond near the rim. Unfortunately, there are no dominant low-post centers currently playing, and everyone keeps trying to beat the Warriors at their own small-ball game.

[Budkin]

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/22/17382860/james-harden-dunks-on-draymond-green-poster-dunk-chris-webber-reaction-rockets-warriors-game-4

LOL

Enjoy your poster, Draymond!


https://youtu.be/_-Oz7SIDLik

Love seeing this overrated role player shitted on!

That's the dunk LeBron should have had at the end of Game 7.

[cd98]

Where’s the clip of Green rim checking a dunk in the clutch?

[webshad]

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/22/17382860/james-harden-dunks-on-draymond-green-poster-dunk-chris-webber-reaction-rockets-warriors-game-4

LOL

Enjoy your poster, Draymond!


https://youtu.be/_-Oz7SIDLik

Love seeing this overrated role player shitted on!

Dirty ass player, he even slaps Harden's face with the left hand.

[ElNono]

ugh, is Dejuan Blair-lite going to cost the Dubs another championship, tbh?

[Mikeanaro]

He made a 3 pointer taking them to 94 points during the last minutes, but then he had to be Ray, lost the ball or did something stupid in the last possessions.
Totally overrated, 2nd defensive team this season.

[Stabula]

Who do you guys think is more retarded? Russ or Donkey?

[Nathan89]

Warrior fans use to argue him being a more valuable player for that team than Kawhi.

[J_Paco]

Warrior fans use to argue him being a more valuable player for that team than Kawhi.

Stupidity is a common thing in all parts of life/sports even with a franchise/fanbase "light years ahead" of the competition.

[CGD]

He’s good when he’s on but it just looks like he lost a step this season. When he was knocking down that three consistently (and Iggy was not being a space cadet) they were nearly unguardable with the lineup. Its clear those two cogs aren’t what they were the last few seasons.

[NameLess Scrub]

Probably the best thing about last night's street ball display was that Warriors got humbled by the Rockets one on one game.

Street ball, except for the constant cheap fouls of course.

CP3's anual hamstringpalooza is here too.