Jesus or Buddha?

[Trainwreck2100]

Let's go beyond the tape

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/201/1721/640/jesus.jpg

1) Jesus
Known for:
a)Being the son of God
b)Bringing people back from the dead
c)Being mom's buddy's hook up when the alcohol dried up
d) Not dying (well he did die he just didn't stay dead)
e) Having a multi million $ movie franchise
motto
:Treat others as you would want to be treated.
Homeland: People keep blowing it up
2) Buddha
http://www.ee.columbia.edu/~uday/Site_Images/ladakh/images/66%20-%20The%20Buddha%20at%20Hemis%20gompa_jpg.jpg
2) Buddha
Known for
a)Being a god
b)Is super enlightened
c) not dying (Keeps coming back)
d) Rub his belly for good luck
creed
My body is a temple, and fighting is bad.
Homeland:Owned by China

[batman2883]

Jesus Christ....stop me if you've heard this one
Jesus walks into a hotel, hands the bookeeper three nails and asks, can you put me up for the night....oh......im here till thursday ....try the veal...

[mookie2001]

Ganisha

[angel_luv]

This is a horrible thread.

[batman2883]

ha ha ha ha ha hah a you think god doesnt have a sense of humor?

[mugatu]

Satan has scoreboard on both of them.

[angel_luv]

ha ha ha ha ha hah a you think god doesnt have a sense of humor?


Your joke wasn't funny.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I'm going with Jesus on this one. But only in pics where he looks liek a regualr person. too many artists draw him all wimpy and frail looking with these freaky crybaby /puppydog eyes.

i think the reason Budda keeps coming back is because he's so fat he never gets off his rearend long enough to finish stuff the 1st time around.

not to mention that Jesus can throw a party with 2 fish & 5 loaves of bread. Plus the whole water to wine thing...... and later into the nihgt he has the BEST party tricks. ie : walking on water.

[mouse]

you think god doesnt have a sense of humor?

lets ask him...Manny you thier?

[mookie2001]

what joke?

[batman2883]

Dude how can anyone follow budha....a man that is suppose to teach self discipline.....how can you follow a fat ass mofo preaching about self discipline when he cant stop eating???? thats a bit of hypocracy dont you think...

and yes my joke is very funny

[angel_luv]

what joke?



Jesus Christ....stop me if you've heard this one
Jesus walks into a hotel, hands the bookeeper three nails and asks, can you put me up for the night....oh......im here till thursday ....try the veal...

[MiNuS]

thank god noone made the thread about Jesus Vs Allah.

holywar would have errupted on SpurTalk and friends and fans would become enemies.

[Ron Jeremy]

I wonder if this topic will have a Deep impact on others,

[batman2883]

I mean whats up people....no holy wars going on here

[Victor Newman]

In the ring? Budda

Picking up babes? Jesus

[MiNuS]

I mean whats up people....no holy wars going on here
hey bat you changed your post from "allah not being a god just a prophet"


busted papa!

[TheTruth]

this thread sucks....

[batman2883]

hey bat you changed your post from "allah not being a god just a prophet"


busted papa!


actually i said a person posing as a prophet, and not actually being a prophet...

[mookie2001]

oohhhh
i missed that one
batman you should make a movie about it that grosses nearly a billion dollars

that would be the right thing to do

[batman2883]

oohhhh
i missed that one
batman you should make a movie about it that grosses nearly a billion dollars

that would be the right thing to do

I just might do that....staring denzil washington and Tom Cruise

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Both are pretty feel good sort of guys but I've got to give the edge to Jesus. Buddha's got no vocational skills that I can think of and is at major risk for heart disease and diabetes. Meanwhile Jesus has the carpentry skills, a heart friendly diet of wine and fish, and a muscle building conditioning program of dragging a large piece of wood up a hill.

[batman2883]

Both are pretty feel good sort of guys but I've got to give the edge to Jesus. Buddha's got no vocational skills that I can think of and is at major risk for heart disease and diabetes. Meanwhile Jesus has the carpentry skills, a heart friendly diet of wine and fish, and a muscle building conditioning program of dragging a large piece of wood up a hill.


Holy shit that has to be one of the funniest things i have ever heard..ha ha ha he trains like Rocky in Rocky 4

[TheSuckUp]

I love Jesus!

[MiNuS]

The Spurs are Jesus' team!

[batman2883]

Jesus rocks on South Park

[Al Sharpton]

Jesus was black fools.

[MannyIsGod]

There have been lots of scholarly comparisons between Jesus and Buddah. A few months ago I became intrigued and read a lot into it. It is pretty neat to see the corolations between the 2.

I think both are pretty neat.

[Fonzie]

Aaaay...Jesus is cool.

[batman2883]

budha is not cool

[ObiwanGinobili]

Jesus rocks on South Park


I love the episode where he is going to once and for all stae his stand on homosexuality.. and the local station cuts out. :lmao that was priceless.
thats the episode where the dog is gay.

[batman2883]

Aaaay...Jesus is cool.


ha ha ha ha ha ha he even said aaaaaaay

[nickbroken]

It's funny watching people comment on Buddha when they know nothing about him...like him being a God or being fat...

[mouse]

There have been lots of scholarly comparisons between Jesus and Buddah. A few months ago I became intrigued and read a lot into it. It is pretty neat to see the corolations between the 2.

I think both are pretty neat.


Dude Jesus was cool had a beard and fed folks with fish and bread,

Budda was a fat greasy smelly fuck that sat on his fat greasy smelly ass.

[angel_luv]

I'm sure none of you are being intentionally malicious, but it is in bad taste to mock people's faith.

[Larry Dallas]

I'm sure none of you are being intentionally malicious, but it is in bad taste to mock people's faith.


welcome to the www :lmao

[mouse]

I'm sure none of you are being intentionally malicious, but it is in bad taste to mock people's faith.

I have faith in The Maverickas and you mock me 24/7 :lmao

[Spam]

I'm sure none of you are being intentionally malicious, but it is in bad taste to mock people's faith.

I agree.
Sincerely,
Tim McGraw

[angel_luv]

I had to say what I said.
You can take or leave my comments at your own discretion. It is between you and God.
I like you heathens regardless. = )

[batman2883]

ha haha what the hell does tim mcgraw have to do with anything?

[Mr Hanky]

I had to say what I said.
You can take or leave my comments at your own discretion. It is between you and God.
I like you heathens regardless. = )


You know how to stirr the shit!

[Spam]

ha haha what the hell does tim mcgraw have to do with anything?

He gets Faith Hill every night. :smokin

[angel_luv]

He gets Faith Hill every night. :smokin


See? It is good to have Faith! :lol

[SWC Bonfire]

Angel, do you think that J.C. doesn't have a sense of humor?

[batman2883]

Man i cant believe that the drunk dad from Friday Night Lights was Tim McGraw how do women like that type of man....a balding ugly mofo?

[angel_luv]

I know Jesus has a sense of humor. He made the platypuss.

Bat's joke was the only one I strongly objected to. I don't see anything funny about crucifixion.

[mookie2001]

I think its funny that people will hand over their hard earned money to mel gibson














to see a movie about it

[JoeChalupa]

We give our hard earned money to many people we may not like but I loved the Passion of the Christ.

I do not have enough knowledge of Buddha but I do like Jesus.



"A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." Robert Hughes

[gollum]

See? It is good to have Faith! :lol

I'm sorry but that was not funny and I am sad you think it is.

[angel_luv]

You're right... that one was a little questionable. I just thought it was funny in context with the post above mine.

[Aunt Ester]

You're right... that one was a little questionable. I just thought it was funny in context with the post above mine.

And you call yourself an Angel?

[angel_luv]

Did what I said mean something worse than I think it does?

I just thought it was a play on words having faith equals having ( going out with) Faith Hill.

[MannyIsGod]

I think its funny that people will hand over their hard earned money to mel gibson














to see a movie about it
I find it funny that you are so scared of The Passion Of The Christ. Whats wrong about the movie? I'm not a christian and I thought the movie was awesome.

[mookie2001]

it was hype beyond hype
it needed its own cable news channel when it came out
i am a christian, i just dont think actors should make unprecedented millions of their take on our saviors death

[mouse]

I find it funny that you are so scared of The Passion Of The Christ. Whats wrong about the movie? I'm not a christian and I thought the movie was awesome.


I used to work with this man who went to church every Sunday, every time I got into his truck he would ask me if I saw the Passion yet? I told him I would wait till it came out on DVD, he fired me that week,

True story.

[MannyIsGod]

it was hype beyond hype
it needed its own cable news channel when it came out
i am a christian, i just dont think actors should make unprecedented millions of their take on our saviors death
You hate anything with a smidge of hype ot trendinesss in such a trendy way. You're the trendiest anti-trendy mofo I've ever seen mookie!

I went and saw it once, and once was enough. But I thought it was a damn good movie. I don't really care how much money he makes off of it, because it is a movie. It is like writting a book and making money off of it.

Now, if Mel Gibson had said "Go see this movie and you'll be saved" that would be different.

[batman2883]

You hate anything with a smidge of hype ot trendinesss in such a trendy way. You're the trendiest anti-trendy mofo I've ever seen mookie!

I went and saw it once, and once was enough. But I thought it was a damn good movie. I don't really care how much money he makes off of it, because it is a movie. It is like writting a book and making money off of it.

Now, if Mel Gibson had said "Go see this movie and you'll be saved" that would be different.
that would be pretty fucking hilarious though right

[mookie2001]

youre right i am anti trendy

and the fact mel gibson had to gaul to call it "the Passion", when historically "passions" were used to fuel the hatred and violence against jews

[SWC Bonfire]

Mel Gibson wants you to use OnStar.

[MannyIsGod]

Mel Gibson wants you to use OnStar.
:lmaoo x a billion.

[MiNuS]

What do you think Jesus would have done after 09/11???

After Hurricane Katrina???

After game 5 Lakers vs Spurs .04 game in 04?

[MiNuS]

youre right i am anti trendy

and the fact mel gibson had to gaul to call it "the Passion", when historically "passions" were used to fuel the hatred and violence against jews
Mookie,you're an anti-social.

[batman2883]

Mooks is funny as dung though

[Trainwreck2100]

Wow that was a quick jump to three pages, but I plan on settling this once and for all.

[MannyIsGod]

I still like Mookie. He's a funny mofo.

[MiNuS]

Jesus,took care of the poor,the sinners,the prostitutes.....

he could easily be on the internet. The second coming could be in the most unexpected place.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Jesus,took care of the poor,the sinners,the prostitutes.....

he could easily be on the internet. The second coming could be in the most unexpected place.

Heck, with those kind of clients he could very well be on this message board!

[MiNuS]

Heck, with those kind of clients he could very well be on this message board!
?.....could be.

[mouse]

Jesus,took care of the poor,the sinners,the prostitutes.....
.


Dam! my family missed out big time.

[MiNuS]

Dam! my family missed out big time.
not with taxpayer's money though,mouse.

[Larry Dallas]

Jesus,took care of the poor sinners,

Then why Is T Park still here?

[mugatu]

Jesus,took care of the poor,the sinners,the prostitutes.....



Ok now that SR is doing ok what about us?

[MiNuS]

Then why Is T Park still here?Tpark is like Judas,he turned against Jesus and sold him.

and we are all like the stone throwers.

We have all lost faith in the Spurs once in a while.
Me included.

[Kip Fanatic]

Jesus is the Man (Father), He is the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in One. I haven't seen any WWBD (What would Buddha Do). Don't some people refer to Buddha as weed??? This is too easy. Jesus died for you and me so that we could have eternal life. Which one of you would take the physical punishment for someone who spit on you? Thought so!

[Trainwreck2100]

Jesus is the Man (Father), He is the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in One. I haven't seen any WWBD (What would Buddha Do). Don't some people refer to Buddha as weed??? This is too easy. Jesus died for you and me so that we could have eternal life. Which one of you would take the physical punishment for someone who spit on you? Thought so!


Must you turn my parody religious?

[MannyIsGod]

Jesus is the Man (Father), He is the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in One. I haven't seen any WWBD (What would Buddha Do). Don't some people refer to Buddha as weed??? This is too easy. Jesus died for you and me so that we could have eternal life. Which one of you would take the physical punishment for someone who spit on you? Thought so!
Yeah, WWJD items are defeintly the mark of a savior.

[batman2883]

Jesus is the Man (Father), He is the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in One. I haven't seen any WWBD (What would Buddha Do). Don't some people refer to Buddha as weed??? This is too easy. Jesus died for you and me so that we could have eternal life. Which one of you would take the physical punishment for someone who spit on you? Thought so!


Because if someone asked what would budha do, everyone would reply..>Eat...that fat bastard doesnt deserve to be worshipped...

[Trainwreck2100]

Because if someone asked what would budha do, everyone would reply..>Eat...that fat bastard doesnt deserve to be worshipped...

Can we not hate on a focus of worship please.

[tlongII]

Jesus is the Man (Father), He is the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in One. I haven't seen any WWBD (What would Buddha Do). Don't some people refer to Buddha as weed??? This is too easy. Jesus died for you and me so that we could have eternal life. Which one of you would take the physical punishment for someone who spit on you? Thought so!


This is pure speculation.

[batman2883]

Can we not hate on a focus of worship please.


Trainwreck if you dont believe in god then burn in hell you paegan







j/k

[Kip Fanatic]

This is pure speculation.
:nope
Its not speculation. Its faith.

[B.AlMighty]

For all the nay sayers....I sure get a lot of freakin' emails!!!

[midgetonadonkey]

:nope
Its not speculation. Its faith.


They are pretty close to the same thing.

Speculate - To assume to be true without conclusive evidence
Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence

Pretty close to me.

[Kip Fanatic]

They are pretty close to the same thing.

Speculate - To assume to be true without conclusive evidence
Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence

Pretty close to me.
Not really.

[Suns Fan]

speculation Thinking about putting money on the roulett table.
Faith Putting the money on the roulett table.

[MannyIsGod]

Not really.
Of course not, because it is not what you believe.

Don't confuse lack of local popularity meaning the religion does not have a strong backing in other parts of the world. Your previous post was absolutely ridiculous.

[CrazyOne]

(minor clarification) Buddha never claimed to be a god, only that he was a seeker of enlightenment, and taught what he believed to be a path to enlightenment.

Ok, you can resume with the heresy and hilarity.

Peace. Out.

[Kip Fanatic]

Of course not, because it is not what you believe.

Don't confuse lack of local popularity meaning the religion does not have a strong backing in other parts of the world. Your previous post was absolutely ridiculous.
That is pretty dumb. Sorry, but it is. Speculating is like thinking. Faith is believing in something.

[Kip Fanatic]

Manny, let me give you a great example of speculation. Wait just a minute.

[MannyIsGod]

That is pretty dumb. Sorry, but it is. Speculating is like thinking. Faith is believing in something.
Thats fine, I don't care what speculation is in your eyes. I'm refering to your prior post with the incredible insight regarding WWJD.

[Kip Fanatic]

Thats fine, I don't care what speculation is in your eyes. I'm refering to your prior post with the incredible insight regarding WWJD.
It seems simple, but isn't because we face that everyday. WWJD is very powerful. So powerful the person/people who came up with it had professional athletes wearing those rubber bracelets all the time. Millions of people were buying bumper stickers and what not with "WWJD" on it. Am I right? What I was saying is that it shows how much more powerful and influential Jesus is than let's say Buddha. Did anyone ever see people wearing WWBD bracelets? No. Before you start to run your mouth Manny, think, "WWJD?" I think He (Jesus) would think before you talk.

[batman2883]

God damn it this thread is getting out of hand....God is God, budha is a false idol

[MiNuS]

God damn it this thread is getting out of hand....God is God, budha is a false idol
for you my bat friend,"quattro" is your idol.

[MannyIsGod]

It seems simple, but isn't because we face that everyday. WWJD is very powerful. So powerful the person/people who came up with it had professional athletes wearing those rubber bracelets all the time. Millions of people were buying bumper stickers and what not with "WWJD" on it. Am I right? What I was saying is that it shows how much more powerful and influential Jesus is than let's say Buddha. Did anyone ever see people wearing WWBD bracelets? No. Before you start to run your mouth Manny, think, "WWJD?" I think He (Jesus) would think before you talk.

HERE

This place is not the center of the universe. But yes, the influence of a comercialized Jesus Christ certainly beats out any commercialized Buddha. I wonder WWJD about that?

[midgetonadonkey]

It seems simple, but isn't because we face that everyday. WWJD is very powerful. So powerful the person/people who came up with it had professional athletes wearing those rubber bracelets all the time. Millions of people were buying bumper stickers and what not with "WWJD" on it. Am I right? What I was saying is that it shows how much more powerful and influential Jesus is than let's say Buddha. Did anyone ever see people wearing WWBD bracelets? No. Before you start to run your mouth Manny, think, "WWJD?" I think He (Jesus) would think before you talk.

You know Jesus is better because now they have the "Jesus is my Homeboy" shirts and caps. You don't see any "Buddha is my Homeboy" shirts.

[MiNuS]

I don't believe anyone has touched the topic that Christianity and Islam are sister religions more than Buddism.

Islam sees Jesus as one of the prophets in a long line of prophets but not the son of god.

Judaism would be the parent religion. For them the son of god has not come yet.

[Kip Fanatic]

HERE

This place is not the center of the universe. But yes, the influence of a comercialized Jesus Christ certainly beats out any commercialized Buddha. I wonder WWJD about that?

Commercialized? Maybe. However, the word got out. Jesus told his disciples to go out and spread the word. "WWJD" got that accomplished. It got the word out.

[Kip Fanatic]

You know Jesus is better because now they have the "Jesus is my Homeboy" shirts and caps. You don't see any "Buddha is my Homeboy" shirts.

Uh...not worth my time. You see, Manny is actually discussing, you are just trying to stir things up. Its cool.

[midgetonadonkey]

Uh...not worth my time. You see, Manny is actually discussing, you are just trying to stir things up. Its cool.

I was just pointed out how ridiculous the whole WWJD arguement is.

[tlongII]

Man invented religion to help him deal with things that he otherwise wasn't able to. Simple as that. It's actually a pretty nice and effective tool.

[Kip Fanatic]

I was just pointed out how ridiculous the whole WWJD arguement is.

How so? I was pointing out the FACT that people were drawn to this IDEA that someone came up with. It proves a lot. The name Jesus carries a lot of power. It is power. Not just here in the US. Everywhere. So powerful that an idea (WWJD) spread like wild fire. Some of those who bought the bracelets and etc. did it to be popular, but some of those who bought the items with WWJD on it were actually influenced.

[MiNuS]

Man invented religion to help him deal with things that he otherwise wasn't able to. Simple as that. It's actually a pretty nice and effective tool.
everything is caused by man,even cancer and kidney disease.

eventually all of us will be 6 feet under or in my case cremated.

[Kip Fanatic]

Man invented religion to help him deal with things that he otherwise wasn't able to. Simple as that. It's actually a pretty nice and effective tool.

We're talking about Jesus. Not religion. Two totally different things.

[MiNuS]

^^^

Hey Dammit....get It Right!

[angel_luv]

They are pretty close to the same thing.

Speculate - To assume to be true without conclusive evidence
Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence

Pretty close to me.

To me, faith means that sometimes I have to give God the benefit of the doubt.

[Kip Fanatic]

To me faith is being SURE of what I HOPE for. To me speculation is thinking of doing something.

[angel_luv]

I can't completely explain God to anyone. What kind of Savior would He be if I could?

If you want answers, go to the Source. No formal introduction needed. = )

[batman2883]

http://students.ou.edu/W/Timothy.A.Warren-1.Jr/Buddy%20Christ%20Avatar.jpg buddy christ says, this topic sucks
http://therandommuse.typepad.com/photos/jesus/basketball_jesus.jpg jesus say's get that shit out of here...

[angel_luv]

To me faith is being SURE of what I HOPE for. To me speculation is thinking of doing something.


I trust God but sometimes His ways do not make sense to me.

[batman2883]

http://www.mosaiclife.org/images/news/jesus-homeboy.jpg

[Medvedenko]

Christianity is based on guilt....
If you believe in Christ and have your sins forgiven you will go to heaven. Heaven is the best most wonderful place in the world....however if you want to expedite your heavinly pursuits by killing yourself you go to hell....interesting conundrum of a theory. Heaven is great, so dieing is great right.....
Committing suicide is a sin. I was raised Roman Catholic and whole idea of sin was thrust upon me at a early age. I always wonder...they always talk about the original sin, but what about the original innocence. Was there a time before sin....

[ObiwanGinobili]

Christianity is based on guilt....
If you believe in Christ and have your sins forgiven you will go to heaven. Heaven is the best most wonderful place in the world....however if you want to expedite your heavinly pursuits by killing yourself you go to hell....interesting conundrum of a theory. Heaven is great, so dieing is great right.....
Committing suicide is a sin. I was raised Roman Catholic and whole idea of sin was thrust upon me at a early age. I always wonder...they always talk about the original sin, but what about the original innocence. Was there a time before sin....


christianity is a pretty wide description. it's basicly everyone who believes in christ.
not every christian is feeling that sin/guilt trip/heaven/ hell thing.
ex: I'm christian but i don;t believe in humans going to heaven and I don;t belive in hell (i'm in the earth has an actual purpose group)

____________________________

now as far as this whole faith/specualtion definition.. I've always thougth that faith is : "the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not yet beheld"

____________________________


this thread was fun and funny to start with... but now it's getting all serious and personal...... I thoguht this was the offseason?? :spin

[angel_luv]

Christianity is based on guilt....
If you believe in Christ and have your sins forgiven you will go to heaven. Heaven is the best most wonderful place in the world....however if you want to expedite your heavinly pursuits by killing yourself you go to hell....interesting conundrum of a theory. Heaven is great, so dieing is great right.....
Committing suicide is a sin. I was raised Roman Catholic and whole idea of sin was thrust upon me at a early age. I always wonder...they always talk about the original sin, but what about the original innocence. Was there a time before sin....

If you really want to know, read Genesis chapters 1&2.

[spurs=bling]

i believe in Jesus Christ.

[angel_luv]

now as far as this whole faith/specualtion definition.. I've always thougth that faith is : "the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not yet beheld"



Ah! I see that you are of the Hebrews 11: 1 persuasion. :princess

What do you think about the rest of the Book?

[JoeChalupa]

My faith is solid as a rock which makes me hard headed sometimes.

[tlongII]

Do you folks believe in evolution? Specifically, do you believe man evolved from apes?

[spurs=bling]

Do you folks believe in evolution? Specifically, do you believe man evolved from apes?
i don't believe in that. its stupid.

[angel_luv]

I absolutely did not come from a monkey.

I'm an original design. Psalm 139:13

[spurs=bling]

.

I'm an original design. Psalm 139:13

yep.

[angel_luv]

i believe in Jesus Christ.


For the record, I believe Jesus is my Savior.

[spurs=bling]

For the record, I believe Jesus is my Savior.

i know that too.

[JoeChalupa]

Jesus....he's my friend.

[midgetonadonkey]

Do you folks believe in evolution? Specifically, do you believe man evolved from apes?

I came from a monkey.

[mookie2001]

you know you can believe in jesus and evolution
and evolution is not a theory, its a fact
its been proved over and over again

[tlongII]

To bling and angel:

There is a tremendous amount of scientific evidence that contradicts your beliefs then. We have been able to trace the evolutionary tree between apes and humans about 3 million years at this time. I think it's pretty clear that this is indeed how humans came about.

An interesting side not to this: it appears that hominids began developing their intelligence as a direct result of being bipedal. I found this to be fascinating. The simple evolutionary step of bringing us upright allowed us to become intellectually what we are today.

[Shelly]

I saw a license plate frame that said, "Jesus is my airbag".

I'm in the evolution camp.

[mookie2001]

i dont see why people freak out when someone talks about evolution, like if you dont totally scoff at the science youre going to burn in hell for eternity

[Shelly]

I remember Howard Stern used to call Patrick Ewing the missing link.

[Medvedenko]

I believe in evolution by design....
I don't believe in "creationism"...but then again what I don't and do believe is in itself the question.
Angel and Bling believe in Jesus as their saviour and that they were created in God's image. They seem to figure it out for themselves. They don't need any tangible proof, hence belief.

[tlongII]

Another sidenote: It has been proven recently that the human brain is still evolving.

The following is from newscientist.com...

New variants of genes that control the development of our brains have swept through the world's population in the last several thousand years
NEW variants of two genes that control the development of our brains have swept through much of the world's population during the past several thousand years. In short, our brains are still evolving, and the implications of that are far from clear.

The evolution of a large complex brain has been the defining feature of the human lineage, although the size of our brain hasn't changed over the past 200,000 years. We don't yet know whether the new genetic adaptations discovered in our brains have any effect on brain size, or help to make us any more intelligent.

What's more, not everyone has the new gene variants, potentially inflaming the already controversial debate about whether the brains of groups of people from different parts of the world function differently. "Whatever advantage these genes give, some groups have it and some don't. This has to be the worst nightmare of people ...

[mookie2001]

yeah but i believe in both
... to god a billion years can be done at the snap of a finger right?

[spurs=bling]

I believe in evolution by design....
I don't believe in "creationism"...but then again what I don't and do believe is in itself the question.
Angel and Bling believe in Jesus as their saviour and that they were created in God's image. They seem to figure it out for themselves. They don't need any tangible proof, hence belief.

Jesus is my Savior.
and He who belives in Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

[mookie2001]

good one
and with such eerie punctuation

[Medvedenko]

The human brain evolving is obviously sign enough...will it evolve enough to realize that humans were indeed created. Maybe the devout zeolots are the enlightened ones we are all really afraid of? Maybe that's God's/Buddha,Allah etc plan...

[ObiwanGinobili]

Ah! I see that you are of the Hebrews 11: 1 persuasion. :princess

:lol you noticed!


What do you think about the rest of the Book?

to answer that may I kindly point to 2 tim 3:16, 17. It pretty much sums it up for me :D

[angel_luv]

:lol you noticed!



to answer that may I kindly point to 2 tim 3:16, 17. It pretty much sums it up for me :D


Same here! Hello sister! :spin

[Medvedenko]

Jesus is my Savior.
and He who belives in Him shall not parish but have everlasting life

Everlasting life....in what realm, heaven or earth, or maybe some eternal energy force that binds all living things. A collective conscious, if you may. I do believe in reincarnation of sorts...of personalities that is. I believe that personalities (souls if you well) are recycled.

[angel_luv]

To bling and angel:

There is a tremendous amount of scientific evidence that contradicts your beliefs then. We have been able to trace the evolutionary tree between apes and humans about 3 million years at this time. I think it's pretty clear that this is indeed how humans came about.

An interesting side not to this: it appears that hominids began developing their intelligence as a direct result of being bipedal. I found this to be fascinating. The simple evolutionary step of bringing us upright allowed us to become intellectually what we are today.


My problem with evolution is that the theory is still evolving.

God told me exactly what He said and what happened as a result. Genesis 1.

[mookie2001]

how is it a theory again?

[Medvedenko]

What are people really afraid of? Do you fear God, do you fear punishment, do you fear the government. What is with guilt that creates and incubates faith. If God is inside all of us, are we all not God's then. We all can control our world...just kill oneself and your world will cease to exist.

"Suicide is the height of optimisim" O. Wilde

[midgetonadonkey]

Jesus is my Savior.
and He who belives in Him shall not parish but have everlasting life.

So you don't have to love him or act a certain way? You just have to belive in him. That seems easy enough.

[Shelly]

I look at it this way. Always question and keep an open mind.

[Medvedenko]

Is living on earth an "intermission" for our transcendence...?
AL: God has spoke to you, right?

[angel_luv]

Not audibly Med, but yes. God speaks to me.

[Medvedenko]

That's nice AL...
I guess if I open my ears I can listen as well...?

[ObiwanGinobili]

I believe the earth has purpose. It's not just a bus stop.
god's original intention was for humans to never die and to live here cultivating it. there's been a road bump with the whole satan thing. But I don't belive he's altered his plans.

[Shelly]

Sometimes I think earth is really Hell...

[Medvedenko]

I believe the earth has purpose. It's not just a bus stop.
god's original intention was for humans to never die and to live here cultivating it. there's been a road bump with the whole satan thing. But I don't belive he's altered his plans.

The whole Satan thing....what is that supposed to mean. I don't believe in Satan...but I do believe in Jesus Christ.

[angel_luv]

That's nice AL...
I guess if I open my ears I can listen as well...?


I think I told you before Med, if you really want God to show himself to you, He will.

And if you were ever to consider reading even just one book of the Bible. I'd recommend the Gospel of John.

[Medvedenko]

I've read the Bible....but think of this....
If I really wanted for Christ to hear me, I would just listen to myself.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Sometimes I think earth is really Hell...


:lol
like all earlier this week........

[spurs=bling]

The whole Satan thing....what is that supposed to mean. I don't believe in Satan...but I do believe in Jesus Christ.
the devil does exist, he is a fallen angel who wanted to be like God.

[angel_luv]

I've read the Bible....but think of this....
If I really wanted for Christ to hear me, I would just listen to myself.


Maybe, hopefully, I misunderstood your meaning.
But if I am the best Savior I have, I am in sad shape.

[hussker]

I think I told you before Med, if you really want God to show himself to you, He will.

And if you were ever to consider reading even just one book of the Bible. I'd recommend the Gospel of John.

All of the Gospels are wondeful, written by different men of different perspectives from different cultural backgrounds.

Check out the Book of James, Jesus' half-brother. James did not ever believe, but he came to AFTER the death of Christ.

James is a wonderful book that deals with trials...

And to those of you out there talking about guilt, etc, driving Christianity, that is false.

Guilt drives RELIGION, not Christianity. There is a big difference.

Just my .02

[angel_luv]

Check out the Book of James, Jesus' half-brother. James did not ever believe, but he came to AFTER the death of Christ.
James is a wonderful book that deals with trials...



I don't understand.

[hussker]

I don't understand.
James did not believe that his brother was the Son of God, but AFTER Jesus' death, he did. That was one of the things that prompted him to write.

[exstatic]

If it's just Jesus vs. Buddha, I'll have to go with Jesus. However, if their followers are included, then it's Buddha, hands down.

[angel_luv]

I do remember there being a verse about Jesus' siblings not believing him but I don't remember the reference.

Also where does it talk about James' conversion? How do you know it was after Jesus' death?

[angel_luv]

If it's just Jesus vs. Buddha, I'll have to go with Jesus. However, if their followers are included, then it's Buddha, hands down.


That makes me sad. But I can understand why you would feel that way.

[JoeChalupa]

I believe God created life and evolution.

[Medvedenko]

Like I said earlier....I believe in Jesus Christ....just don't believe in Christianity. I believe myself as my own god and saviour.

[hussker]

James does not seem to have followed Jesus before Jesus' crucifixion, thinking that he was unstable (Mark 3:21; 6:3; John 7:3). Jesus appeared to James after his resurrection; presumably, James came to believe in Jesus at this time (1 Cor 15:7). After Jesus' resurrection but before the giving of the Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, James probably met with prayer with the disciples, a group of women including Mary, his mother, and other of his brothers (Acts 1:14). Afterwards, James became the leader of the Jerusalem church (Gal 1:18-19; 2:9, 12; 15:13; 21:18), perhaps because Peter is forced to leave Jerusalem (Acts 12:17). Paul met with James during his first visit to Jerusalem three years after his conversion (Gal 1:18-19) and again perhaps eighteen years after his conversion, at which time James gave to him and Barnabas "the right hand of fellowship," confirming his role as apostle to the gentiles. Paul says that James and Peter had the responsibility for the leadership of the Jewish believers, and refers to James and Peter as those "who reputed pillars" (Gal 2:9). James supported Paul's view on how to incorporate gentile believers into the church (Acts 15:13-21). James also met with Paul during his visit to Jerusalem after his third missionary journey, and advised him to take steps to appease those Jewish believers who are "zealous for the Law" and suspicious of Paul (Acts 21:18-26). Some of Paul's opponents (illegitimately) claimed James' authority for their opposition to Paul, indicating that James was known for his adherence to the Law (Gal 2:12). From what Paul says, James may have been married (1 Cor 9:5).

Check your scriptures for accuracy.

[hussker]

Like I said earlier....I believe in Jesus Christ....just don't believe in Christianity. I believe myself as my own god and saviour.

Hmmm?

[angel_luv]

Thanks very much Hussker!

That information is very helpful. I love the book of James but don't know much aboiut him.

[angel_luv]

Like I said earlier....I believe in Jesus Christ....just don't believe in Christianity. I believe myself as my own god and saviour.


That's not going to work out very well. But no worries, God will make it clear.
I'll keep praying for you. = )

[hussker]

Thanks very much Hussker!

That information is very helpful. I love the book of James but don't know much aboiut him.

My wife, a Japanese citizen now attending aTm for her School Psych PhD, is the only one in her family that:
1) Lives in the U.S. and has ever lived here
2) Speaks English (better than most born here, I might add)
3) Is a Christian, converting to Christianity in sixth grade in Tokyo.

She follows nothing Buddhist and states that her parents (wonderful people) are the equivalent of C.E. Christians.

She and I studied the Book of John and the Book Of James over a two month period by E-Mail in 2000. I was TDY in the States and she remained in Japan. That really kept us focused on each other and the Word.

She is my blessing indeed!

My One In A Million! (See, 130,000,000 Japanese; about 0.8% Christian, therefore...my ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!)

[spurs=bling]

My wife, a Japanese citizen now attending aTm for her School Psych PhD, is the only one in her family that:
1) Lives in the U.S. and has ever lived here
2) Speaks English (better than most born here, I might add)
3) Is a Christian, converting to Christianity in sixth grade in Tokyo.

She follows nothing Buddhist and states that her parents (wonderful people) are the equivalent of C.E. Christians.

She and I studied the Book of John and the Book Of James over a two month period by E-Mail in 2000. I was TDY in the States and she remained in Japan. That really kept us focused on each other and the Word.

She is my blessing indeed!

My One In A Million! (See, 130,000,000 Japanese; about 0.8% Christian, therefore...my ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!)

that is good for you.

[angel_luv]

She is my blessing indeed!

My One In A Million! (See, 130,000,000 Japanese; about 0.8% Christian, therefore...my ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!)


Very awesome! = ) God's been good to you. I am happy for you both!

[hussker]

Thanks. I am so blessed! Relationships should all have a trinity...
Emotional/physical/spiritual.

Check out information on relationships by a guy named Joe Beam. He is far from a matchmaker, but if you can find a man/woman to study his programs with you, it will certainly be a blessing.

[E20]

Get this an ape's amino acid branch is....get this 145. Now here comes another thing a humans amino acid branch is 146 peptide bonds. It is possible to live of Gorilla blood, that's how related we are.

[hussker]

Get this an ape's amino acid branch is....get this 145. Now here comes another thing a humans amino acid branch is 146 peptide bonds. It is possible to live of Gorilla blood, that's how related we are.




Ahhh, but still no proof! I think we Humans try WAY too hard to attempt to figure out things that are superhuman.

Close counts is horseshoes/darts and Hand grenades. It means nothing in genetics/protein synthesis or lottery.

[E20]

What the fuck? No proof. That's funny......

You obviously don't know what you are talking about......

[hussker]

What the fuck? No proof. That's funny......

You obviously don't know what you are talking about......

You are right, I do not, You have obviously figured it all out. I have seen your work in all of the textbooks outlining genetics and the proofs you have disclosed fascinate me! How on earth could anyone doubt you?

Forgive me, oh omniscient one, for your breakthrough discovery.

I knew SpursTalk would lead me to the truth and enlightenment

THANK YOU SO MUCH! :)

[E20]

Don't mention it.

[hussker]

Nice language too, omniscient one....(I bet you knew I was going to type that!)

[MannyIsGod]

You know, I'm not here to argue against anyone's religion, but if you want to argue against evolution you're going to find it a very poorly defensible position.

[hussker]

You know, I'm not here to argue against anyone's religion, but if you want to argue against evolution you're going to find it a very poorly defensible position.

There is so much proof...I see it in the tabloids daily.

My original statement was that we as HUMANS try to answer those things that are superhuman. We have to have an answer. Certain mysteries, no matter how we spin them, are just that. I prefer to live, be kind to others, serve people, and let others worry about this issue until they die...which is really the ONLY certainty we would probably all agree on...Opened the door there didn't I?

[hussker]

(pssst....Christianity is not religion)

[MannyIsGod]

(pssst....Christianity is not religion)
:lol

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[MannyIsGod]

There is so much proof...I see it in the tabloids daily.

If you want to say there is proof against evolution that somehow supercedes the vast amount of proof for the theory of evolution, then I suspect the best place to find that sort of information would be tabloids.



My original statement was that we as HUMANS try to answer those things that are superhuman. We have to have an answer. Certain mysteries, no matter how we spin them, are just that. I prefer to live, be kind to others, serve people, and let others worry about this issue until they die...which is really the ONLY certainty we would probably all agree on...Opened the door there didn't I?
I belive that search for answers would be the reason behind both Christianity and Science (of all kinds, not just evolution)

[E20]

It's funny that you're denying the fact of the relation of apes and humans. :lol

[Spam]

Evolution by the power of God.

[Spurfect]

this is simple, really. check out Jesus

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9967/foto09rgb1fs.jpg

he's HOT! Buddha? not.

My vote goes for Jesus :tu

[E20]

Alotta people adhere Buddhism as a religon when it's more of a philosphy.

[Trainwreck2100]

That makes me sad. But I can understand why you would feel that way.

Of course buddhists kick christian's collective asses. All them people know karate, haven't you seen kung fu.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Of course buddhists kick christian's collective asses. All them people know karate, haven't you seen kung fu.


wait wait... i thought the kung fu guys were Shaolin monks? or Taoists???

arn't Buddhists pacifists?

maybe I'm wrong. If they are pacifists then I'd pick them as a group too....christians got a long history of killing in the name of god. :(

[Cant_Be_Faded]

You hate anything with a smidge of hype ot trendinesss in such a trendy way. You're the trendiest anti-trendy mofo I've ever seen mookie!


Hahahahaha, you just now realized that

Mookie wouldn't even go see lord of the rings cuz he said it was too commercial, wouldnt get baDUSTED and see Jay and Silent bob, cuz he said it was overrated, and has never seen a single godfather movie

[Cant_Be_Faded]

buddha was not fat

he was an ascetic--much like jesus and osama bin laden

------------------------------




Thank you. Buddha was getting a bad rap here. Also he is not a god, and a "buddhist" does not worship buddha.

I don't know as much about Buddha as I do (or did) about Jesus, but I was really into buddhism a long time ago and read alot about it. I'd have to go with Buddha. This kid was ill yo. Sure he never did awesome miracles to the extent Jesus did, like raising the dead, coming back from the dead, etc.

BUT what I find amazing about Buddha was that he reminded people of a bunch of easy stuff that they had forgot. Know Thyself. Master your mind. Don't waste your life with physical possessions.

Plus, who really knows what he was capable of, being a master of his self? Some even said the most hardcore buddha masters had the ability to travel time.

[E20]

Some Buddha master could pull rocks tied to their scrotum.

[mookie2001]

or been to south padre island
too commercial

[bigzak25]

Jesus Is Love.

Love Conquers All.

Next. :)

[GoldToe]

Jesus Is Love.

Love Conquers All.

Next. :)

Jennifer "Love" would conquer you in a heart beat.

[bigzak25]

Maybe, hopefully, I misunderstood your meaning.
But if I am the best Savior I have, I am in sad shape.

Everyone on this Earth has the Power to Save Themselves...through Him and with Jesus in their hearts.

[bigzak25]

the devil does exist, he is a fallen angel who wanted to be like God.

satan saw the power he had and never learned control. he fell victim to ultimate power and ultimate sin and has been trying to get everyone else to do the same so he won't be alone...

now my question is, Who Tempted Satan?

[bigzak25]

You know, I'm not here to argue against anyone's religion, but if you want to argue against evolution you're going to find it a very poorly defensible position.

Where is the missing link?

Where are the half monkey / half human peeps?

Bigfoot is a myth until proven otherwise.

I have no doubt that Monkeys and Humans are related creatures...but that We Derived from Monkeys? That is simply not true...:lol

[bigzak25]

Like I said earlier....I believe in Jesus Christ....just don't believe in Christianity. I believe myself as my own god and saviour.

you cannot believe in Jesus and NOT beleive in Christianity. same same.

you are fooling yourself. when you say you believe you are your own God and Savior, that says it all. You DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST. Wake Up my friend. You ARE the one that controls everything you do in life...time to give up the control to HIM and let him drive. Don't be afraid. :tu

[mookie2001]

theyve found many "missing" links

the monkeys we have now didnt exist then

bigfoot has not been proved to exist by science over and over

[bigzak25]

I've read the Bible....but think of this....
If I really wanted for Christ to hear me, I would just listen to myself.


funny you should say that, cuz when you are Saved, you do Everything your Holy Spirit tells you to do...you listen to yourself who is listening to Him. you are on your way brutha...:tu

[Kip Fanatic]

Big Zak is my new best friend. All he is saying is what I would say.

[bigzak25]

Jennifer "Love" would conquer you in a heart beat.


you are correct...she would have in the past...maybe she could come close in the future...but I would never betray my wifey...even with JLH. :tu

[tlongII]

Where is the missing link?

Where are the half monkey / half human peeps?

Bigfoot is a myth until proven otherwise.

I have no doubt that Monkeys and Humans are related creatures...but that We Derived from Monkeys? That is simply not true...:lol

It is absolutely true. Look at australopithecus. Tell me that's not half monkey/half human.

[Kip Fanatic]

It is absolutely true. Look at australopithecus. Tell me that's not half monkey/half human.
So where is this half Curious George/half human now?

[bigzak25]

theyve found many "missing" links

the monkeys we have now didnt exist then

bigfoot has not been proved to exist by science over and over


who is 'they' mookie?

where are they anyway...the missing links?

why are not 'they' walking the earth with us...

primates walk the earth. humans walk the earth.

if evolution happened, the half primate/human beings had to walk the earth so that the humans could exist...or are you saying the humans of today Killed all the halfbreeds...i admit, that is a possibility, and if true, very very sad...I know there were two distinctively different types of humanoid creatures that walked this earth once...one is gone. Perhaps for good reason....If I believe God created Man, then Maybe I can believe that Satan created his version...an animalistic version from primates...a version that no longer exists cuz animals sometimes go extinct.

[mookie2001]

LOL
i cant dont believe yall dont believe in evolution
how many more times can it be proved
its not 1900

[tlongII]

So where is this half Curious George/half human now?

Extinct obviously. That is how evolution works. When a new species arrives that out-competes an older species, the older species becomes extinct.

[batman2883]

I believe more so in evolution more than creation i mean come on who here actually buys that god said let there be man and then out of no where Adam just popped up??? come on now thats ridiculous

[mookie2001]

scientists
in museums
we are evolving right now
if the earth could sustain life for a 10 million more years, the bigzak wouldnt be anything like you

[tlongII]

who is 'they' mookie?

where are they anyway...the missing links?

why are not 'they' walking the earth with us...

primates walk the earth. humans walk the earth.

if evolution happened, the half primate/human beings had to walk the earth so that the humans could exist...or are you saying the humans of today Killed all the halfbreeds...i admit, that is a possibility, and if true, very very sad...I know there were two distinctively different types of humanoid creatures that walked this earth once...one is gone. Perhaps for good reason....If I believe God created Man, then Maybe I can believe that Satan created his version...an animalistic version from primates...a version that no longer exists cuz animals sometimes go extinct.

You are referring to Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons. Cro-Magnons are essentially us and Neanderthal man was another evolutionary derivative.

[ClintSquint]

http://www.hollywoodlegends.com/images/weissmuller.gif
"Man rule over Apes!"

[Cant_Be_Faded]

who is 'they' mookie?

where are they anyway...the missing links?

why are not 'they' walking the earth with us...

primates walk the earth. humans walk the earth.

if evolution happened, the half primate/human beings had to walk the earth so that the humans could exist...or are you saying the humans of today Killed all the halfbreeds...i admit, that is a possibility, and if true, very very sad...I know there were two distinctively different types of humanoid creatures that walked this earth once...one is gone. Perhaps for good reason....If I believe God created Man, then Maybe I can believe that Satan created his version...an animalistic version from primates...a version that no longer exists cuz animals sometimes go extinct.


Big Zak you're making a mistake by assuming that we evolved from the monkeys of today, when in fact we and monkeys of today evolved from something totally different than each. Lucy (astraulopithicus) is an excellent example of a 'link'

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I believe more so in evolution more than creation i mean come on who here actually buys that god said let there be man and then out of no where Adam just popped up??? come on now thats ridiculous


Cuz then someone had to do their sister!

[B.AlMighty]

Who is to say that Adam was "made" as we know man today?

Blessed is he who has not seen yet still believes.

[MiNuS]

I went to Sunday service with my wife to her church.She's "protestant,evangelical,Christian" and I am a Catholic.
So I am listening to the guest speaker and I knew what was coming,I told my wife before he started what I was expecting the speaker to say.
So he was saying how in the bible all the prophecies are already coming true and that
the end is near.He has a teleprompter and showing pictures of leaders that are making these prophecies true(Saddam,Arafat,Osama,and John Paul II). He said Arafat was burning in hell then he went for the kill and stated "with all due respect" but John Paul II is also burning in hell. Man,I was so pissed at that moment I wanted to walk out which I have before.
At the end of service he was selling his DVD's,books,and other propaganda in back of the church(which I refer to as a warehouse) with all the 20's stacked in front of him.
I so wanted to tell him off but I held back.

Things like that make me not like religion.

[batman2883]

Who is to say that Adam was "made" as we know man today?

Blessed is he who has not seen yet still believes.

BS is what that sounds like, im sorry but poof and there was man, is the stupidest concept i have ever heard....And my entire family is catholic, we argue about this all the time...i believe in god but not in damn creation theory

[Kip Fanatic]

BS is what that sounds like, im sorry but poof and there was man, is the stupidest concept i have ever heard....And my entire family is catholic, we argue about this all the time...i believe in god but not in damn creation theory
How in the world can you say you believe in God, but not believe He created you and I? It doesn't make sense. You can't say you believe in one and not the other when they are the same. God is the creator. If you say you believe in God then you must believe that He created man. God is known as the creator. Explain this to me. How come not one person in this world has the same finger print as mine? There are over 2 billion people in this world, but we all have different finger prints. Why? Because God made each one different.

[bigzak25]

I went to Sunday service with my wife to her church.She's "protestant,evangelical,Christian" and I am a Catholic.
So I am listening to the guest speaker and I knew what was coming,I told my wife before he started what I was expecting the speaker to say.
So he was saying how in the bible all the prophecies are already coming true and that
the end is near.He has a teleprompter and showing pictures of leaders that are making these prophecies true(Saddam,Arafat,Osama,and John Paul II). He said Arafat was burning in hell then he went for the kill and stated "with all due respect" but John Paul II is also burning in hell. Man,I was so pissed at that moment I wanted to walk out which I have before.
At the end of service he was selling his DVD's,books,and other propaganda in back of the church(which I refer to as a warehouse) with all the 20's stacked in front of him.
I so wanted to tell him off but I held back.

Things like that make me not like religion.


minusplus...it is written to BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS...you are pissed because you went to Church to get closer to Jesus and they brought a used car salesman into His house...

he tried to lure the people in by saying Arafat is burning in Hell, which NONE of us know...I don't cuz i don't know enough about that man...but None of us has the Power to be the ULTIMATE Judge...only He Knows...then the idiot goes on about How JP2 is in Hell? C'mon...Who KNOWS???

All I do KNOW is that this man, whoever he was that came into God's house in search of MONEY, is on the path to destruction, Cuz if there is ONE THING that God HATES, it's people that Use Him and His Name to do Evil Things...

do not hate Religion. Hate the people that use it for evil. :tu

[MannyIsGod]

Where is the missing link?
[QUOTE]

It's been found.

[quote]
Where are the half monkey / half human peeps?

Take one look at a bonobo.



Bigfoot is a myth until proven otherwise.

The theory of evolution has nothing to do with bigfoot.


I have no doubt that Monkeys and Humans are related creatures...but that We Derived from Monkeys? That is simply not true...:lol
You're right. Thats not what evolution says. Evolution says monkeys and humans have a common ancestor.

[bigzak25]

BS is what that sounds like, im sorry but poof and there was man, is the stupidest concept i have ever heard....And my entire family is catholic, we argue about this all the time...i believe in god but not in damn creation theory


If you do not believe that God had the power to Create Man, then you do not believe in God. do not fool yourself. I am catholic by birth and family as well, I have a cross and St. Jude (patron saint of lost causes) around my neck. But I too have a problem learning in Catholic church...too traditional, too scripted. But they are coming around...more contemporary priests to reach out to a greater audience without alienating...I personally like Baptist Church. Sing, Say Hello, Listen, Learn. Get Closer. But we each have our own path to follow...Godbless you Batman...the truth is out there...sometimes we are too close and need to take a step back to see it clearly....:tu

[Kip Fanatic]

You're right. Thats not what evolution says. Evolution says monkeys and humans have a common ancestor.
And we all come this common ancestor? Isn't that what evolution is all about? So if we all come from this common ancestor, how come monkeys can't do what we do and vice versa? Explain to me why we all speak different languages. Explain to me why we all have different finger prints.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

http://williamcalvin.com/img/BonoboTooluseSanDiegoZoo027CALVIN.jpg

So like us..

[B.AlMighty]

Again, who is to say that God created man as we know him today?

I didn't say God created man and "snap", Donald Trump was made but what "man" was to become. What I find hard to believe is that a "big bang" created our universe..unless of course God created that big bang.

But the emails suggest many do believe!!

[bigzak25]

Take one look at a bonobo.


The theory of evolution has nothing to do with bigfoot.


You're right. Thats not what evolution says. Evolution says monkeys and humans have a common ancestor.


sorry to bring bigfoot in the convo...that just showed my failed attempt at humor and bit of my ignorance...i have not been watching tv lately as i usually LOVE shows about our history and origin...

so Evolution says that the primates of today and humans of today have a common ancestor?

so doest that mean that somewhere along the line, that ancestor line split, and one direction went the way of human and the other went the way of the primate?

cuz if that's the case, then I see no conflict between religion and science.

it is VERY possible that that 'split' occurred by the Hand of God.

He was probobaly very amused with monkeys as we All are...and he decided to use them as a Model for Man. :tu

[Cant_Be_Faded]

sorry to bring bigfoot in the convo...that just showed my failed attempt at humor and bit of my ignorance...i have not been watching tv lately as i usually LOVE shows about our history and origin...

so Evolution says that the primates of today and humans of today have a common ancestor?

so doest that mean that somewhere along the line, that ancestor line split, and one direction went the way of human and the other went the way of the primate?
cuz if that's the case, then I see no conflict between religion and science.

it is VERY possible that that 'split' occurred by the Hand of God.

He was probobaly very amused with monkeys as we All are...and he decided to use them as a Model for Man. :tu

You hit it right on the money.

[MannyIsGod]

And we all come this common ancestor? Isn't that what evolution is all about? So if we all come from this common ancestor, how come monkeys can't do what we do and vice versa? Explain to me why we all speak different languages. Explain to me why we all have different finger prints.
You gotta make this a bit this a bit harder Kip. You don't think these questions have been posed before? Do you think you're breaking new ground here?

There are different niches in nature to be filled. Thats why we are different.

[Kip Fanatic]

You gotta make this a bit this a bit harder Kip. You don't think these questions have been posed before? Do you think you're breaking new ground here?

There are different niches in nature to be filled. Thats why we are different.
That's your answer to the question? That's your explanation? I know I am not the first or the last person to ask for an explanation. You really didn't answer anything though Manny. What should I expect though from someone who calls himself God?

[MiNuS]

I went to the zoo a few months ago and was completely amazed with the gorillas.
They sit waiting for food to be thrown to them,while others check for lice,while others play,while others study the humans on the other side of the gate.

I scratch my head and eat a banana while I study them.


If any human resembled a chimp IMO it was Johnny Carson.

[Spam]

I went to the zoo a few months ago and was completely amazed with the gorillas.
They sit waiting for food to be thrown to them,while others check for lice,while others play,while others study the humans on the other side of the gate.

I scratch my head and eat a banana while I study them.


If any human resembled a chimp IMO it was Johnny Carson.

I commend all who are just itching to post the "Bush/Chimp" pic. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

That's your answer to the question? That's your explanation? I know I am not the first or the last person to ask for an explanation. You really didn't answer anything though Manny. What should I expect though from someone who calls himself God? Kip, I gave you the answer. Do you want a longer detailed explanation that is basically going to say exactly what I gave you in one sentence?

Ok

Evolution is the process by which species adapt to their environment. If Species A is competing with Species B for the same food source, neither species is going to dominate if all other variables are equal.

Now, if Species A evolves into Species C which develops an ability to seek a new food source, it will flourish due to reduced competition. Now if you apply this principle in a broad manner regarding every variable there is amoung life (which is quite a large number, Kip) you can see where the diversity of the life on this earth would grow quite exponentialy given a period of time. As species evolve, niches are formed and others are destroyed and as life evolves to fit these niches, you add even more diversity.

Happy?

[MiNuS]

I commend all who are just itching to post the "Bush/Chimp" pic. :lol
5-4-3-2-1


NBADan

don't call me prophet

[MannyIsGod]

I went to the zoo a few months ago and was completely amazed with the gorillas.
They sit waiting for food to be thrown to them,while others check for lice,while others play,while others study the humans on the other side of the gate.

I scratch my head and eat a banana while I study them.


If any human resembled a chimp IMO it was Johnny Carson.
Wait until you see one masterbate. That'll throw you. :lol

[batman2883]

If you do not believe that God had the power to Create Man, then you do not believe in God. do not fool yourself. I am catholic by birth and family as well, I have a cross and St. Jude (patron saint of lost causes) around my neck. But I too have a problem learning in Catholic church...too traditional, too scripted. But they are coming around...more contemporary priests to reach out to a greater audience without alienating...I personally like Baptist Church. Sing, Say Hello, Listen, Learn. Get Closer. But we each have our own path to follow...Godbless you Batman...the truth is out there...sometimes we are too close and need to take a step back to see it clearly....:tu


My family always tries to tell me the same thing if i dont believe in creation then i dont believe in god, but thats a load of crock to me im sorry. I mean its hard to believe, given the many years we spend in school and learning about life and everything that helps you live out your life correctly such as reasoning and common sense....Creation goes against any logical reasoning, look at it from the big picture your telling me a supreme being just said let there be man and in an instant poof there was Adam, how crazy does that sound, its not logical at all nor rational. It makes no sense what so ever, evolution does make sense since it has been proven through time with science. Life evolves, creatures adapt to their envirnments to better their chances in keeping the species alive.

[MiNuS]

Kip, I gave you the answer. Do you want a longer detailed explanation that is basically going to say exactly what I gave you in one sentence?

Ok

Evolution is the process by which species adapt to their environment. If Species A is competing with Species B for the same food source, neither species is going to dominate if all other variables are equal.

Now, if Species A evolves into Species C which develops an ability to seek a new food source, it will flourish due to reduced competition. Now if you apply this principle in a broad manner regarding every variable there is amoung life (which is quite a large number, Kip) you can see where the diversity of the life on this earth would grow quite exponentialy given a period of time. As species evolve, niches are formed and others are destroyed and as life evolves to fit these niches, you add even more diversity.

Happy?

Hey species A likes "Fajitas" while species B likes "ants" on a pole.

It could be that species B is on "Fear Factor"
:lol

[Kip Fanatic]

Kip, I gave you the answer. Do you want a longer detailed explanation that is basically going to say exactly what I gave you in one sentence?

Ok

Evolution is the process by which species adapt to their environment. If Species A is competing with Species B for the same food source, neither species is going to dominate if all other variables are equal.

Now, if Species A evolves into Species C which develops an ability to seek a new food source, it will flourish due to reduced competition. Now if you apply this principle in a broad manner regarding every variable there is amoung life (which is quite a large number, Kip) you can see where the diversity of the life on this earth would grow quite exponentialy given a period of time. As species evolve, niches are formed and others are destroyed and as life evolves to fit these niches, you add even more diversity.

Happy?
So how long would you say that Earth has been around? How longs have humans been around? Why haven't humans been destroyed?

[MiNuS]

So how long would you say that Earth has been around? How longs have humans been around? Why haven't humans been destroyed?
we desire to believe in a higherachy.

we desire not to believe in other peoples higherarchys.

we go to war for our beliefs.

we destroy each other.


I call it stubborness.

[MannyIsGod]

So how long would you say that Earth has been around? How longs have humans been around? Why haven't humans been destroyed?
Are you trying to make a point? Come out and make it already so I can refute it. :lol

[Kip Fanatic]

we desire to believe in a higherachy.

we desire not to believe in other peoples higherarchys.

we go to war for our beliefs.

we destroy each other.


I call it stubborness.

Very good point :rolleyes .

[tlongII]

So how long would you say that Earth has been around? How longs have humans been around? Why haven't humans been destroyed?

The earth has been around for between 3 and 4 billion years.

Humans in the present form have been around for maybe 200,000 years.


Why haven't humans been destroyed?

We're working on that. Hopefully we can learn to live together and avert destroying ourselves. Humans have been on the earth for a very short time though.

[JoeChalupa]

My family always tries to tell me the same thing if i dont believe in creation then i dont believe in god, but thats a load of crock to me im sorry. I mean its hard to believe, given the many years we spend in school and learning about life and everything that helps you live out your life correctly such as reasoning and common sense....Creation goes against any logical reasoning, look at it from the big picture your telling me a supreme being just said let there be man and in an instant poof there was Adam, how crazy does that sound, its not logical at all nor rational. It makes no sense what so ever, evolution does make sense since it has been proven through time with science. Life evolves, creatures adapt to their envirnments to better their chances in keeping the species alive.

That is why it is called Faith.

The belief in the unknown.

My niece asks me the same question.."Tio, but how do you know that God exists?"

And I always answer, "That is why it is called faith".



"God have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of."
~~Bruce Springsteen.

[MiNuS]

The earth has been around for between 3 and 4 billion years.

Humans in the present form have been around for maybe 200,000 years.



We're working on that. Hopefully we can learn to live together and avert destroying ourselves. Humans have been on the earth for a very short time though.

In the last 100 years we have taken quantum leaps in destroying each other and for one reason or another we keep looking for the cancer cure.


:bling

[Kip Fanatic]

Are you trying to make a point? Come out and make it already so I can refute it. :lol
Am I trying to make a point? Not really. You're making it for me. You really haven't proven anything as you say evolution has been proven. Its a belief. That's it. You keep coming back with answers written by man. We all know man doesn't have the answer to everything that happens on this planet. So why should we believe that the answers you keep coming with are true? You respond with theories Manny. That's all it is. Let me give you a great example as to man not having the answers to everything. You seem to like and know stuff about weather and what computer models show. Right? You see a system developing in the Atlantic somewhere or whatever body of water it may be. You right away post that this will hurricane is going to hit here in several days. What happens two days from the first time you post about the hurricane? You change your answer and say, well something happened and now the hurricane will not hit so and so city, it will now hit this city. Right before the hurricane makes landfall, you change your prediction and say, ok the hurricane somehow took a turn this way and is going to hit this city. Why do you do that Manny? Because God controls the weather. You can't predict what is going to happen. You don't have the capability. No man on this planet does. Not even your computer models have the answer. Sure, you might reply to this post by saying, well its hard to predict where these hurricanes are going because of different weather patterns that occur as the hurricane approaches land. Just admit, you can't predict it. Nothing wrong with it because no one can. Its not for us to predict exactly what will happen. Again I ask the question I asked above, why should be believe man when they say evolution is the explanation as to how humans were created or came about? Man doesn't have the answer to everything. God gives us knowledge to certain things and then there are things that he doesn't allow us to comprehend. Why did Hurricane spare Galveston? How come it hit Port Arthur instead of Galveston or Corpus? I don't know. You might come back and say, well because this so and so occured, which caused the hurricane to move more towards the East. That is really easy for you to say ONE DAY before it made landfall. What about the week before it made landfall? The weather folks were saying it was going to hit anywhere between Corpus and Galveston. Right? It changed. Why? Only God knows.

[batman2883]

i know all about faith but i mean come on how are we today suppose to even believe much of what is said in the bible...first off the bible was written by man, that fact alone should make us deter to something more fact based, and secondly it has been translated thousands of times through the years.....lets not forget the fact that one person, cant tell another person one thing without it turning into a completely false statement before ever getting around the room. People like to add their own stuff to stories, and thats how its always been, most of the bible is probably some myth or legend like that of the greek gods.

[Medvedenko]

Like I said before...you prove God exists...and then faith dissipates...and so does the belief in the concept of God.

[Kip Fanatic]

i know all about faith but i mean come on how are we today suppose to even believe much of what is said in the bible...first off the bible was written by man, that fact alone should make us deter to something more fact based, and secondly it has been translated thousands of times through the years.....lets not forget the fact that one person, cant tell another person one thing without it turning into a completely false statement before ever getting around the room. People like to add their own stuff to stories, and thats how its always been, most of the bible is probably some myth or legend like that of the greek gods.
I think you believe there is a God. I doubt you believe in God. There are many who believe there is a God. Even the demons in this world believe there is a God. However, you don't believe in God. If you did, you wouldn't doubt that He created and I.

[MiNuS]

i know all about faith but i mean come on how are we today suppose to even believe much of what is said in the bible...first off the bible was written by man, that fact alone should make us deter to something more fact based, and secondly it has been translated thousands of times through the years.....lets not forget the fact that one person, cant tell another person one thing without it turning into a completely false statement before ever getting around the room. People like to add their own stuff to stories, and thats how its always been, most of the bible is probably some myth or legend like that of the greek gods.Much like "quattro" huh?


In the begginning Maxpower Chapter 1 Verse 1,free new quattro given free to 1st 250,000 link.

In the Book of Batman letters to TopCherry Chapter 35 verse 22, 'God taketh my manhood and made me feline"


:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Am I trying to make a point? Not really. You're making it for me. You really haven't proven anything as you say evolution has been proven. Its a belief. That's it. You keep coming back with answers written by man. We all know man doesn't have the answer to everything that happens on this planet. So why should we believe that the answers you keep coming with are true?

When you get sick, do you go to a hospital or a priest? When you need something fixed, do you call the appropriate company or do you look up the answer in the bible? When you want your kids taught the explanation to what causes the Aurora Borealis do you look up a psalm or do you look up a chapter in a science book?

Man by no means has all of the answers, but that by no means makes a case that evolution is wrong. If you want to use that arguement to justify your stance, you might as well discredit every other benfit you gather from science.


You respond with theories Manny. That's all it is. Let me give you a great example as to man not having the answers to everything. You seem to like and know stuff about weather and what computer models show. Right? You see a system developing in the Atlantic somewhere or whatever body of water it may be. You right away post that this will hurricane is going to hit here in several days. What happens two days from the first time you post about the hurricane? You change your answer and say, well something happened and now the hurricane will not hit so and so city, it will now hit this city. Right before the hurricane makes landfall, you change your prediction and say, ok the hurricane somehow took a turn this way and is going to hit this city. Why do you do that Manny? Because God controls the weather. You can't predict what is going to happen. You don't have the capability. No man on this planet does. Not even your computer models have the answer. Sure, you might reply to this post by saying, well its hard to predict where these hurricanes are going because of different weather patterns that occur as the hurricane approaches land. Just admit, you can't predict it. Nothing wrong with it because no one can. Its not for us to predict exactly what will happen. Again I ask the question I asked above, why should be believe man when they say evolution is the explanation as to how humans were created or came about? Man doesn't have the answer to everything. God gives us knowledge to certain things and then there are things that he doesn't allow us to comprehend. Why did Hurricane spare Galveston? How come it hit Port Arthur instead of Galveston or Corpus? I don't know. You might come back and say, well because this so and so occured, which caused the hurricane to move more towards the East. That is really easy for you to say ONE DAY before it made landfall. What about the week before it made landfall? The weather folks were saying it was going to hit anywhere between Corpus and Galveston. Right? It changed. Why? Only God knows.
You're so fucking full of shit! You want to use the inability of weather forcasting to prove the existance of a higher being? Well then explain to me how we have advanced the ability to forcast to the point we have now? At one point, we were unable to predict jack shit, and now we have a much better grasp on why things occur when they do and why.

No, if you seek to explain everything that is not fully understood as proof that there is a god, then you go right ahead. But don't sit there and tell me that you are right based on an assumption. That is flat out bullshit.

Many people have thought like you did. You can find the information on their explanations in any M volume of an encyclopedia. Right under Mythology.

I'm not even discounting the pressence of any higher being, but I'm pointing out that your rationalization for one is the same rationalization that has been used by societies to explain the unknown and not a single one of them has turned out to be right.

So, what should I follow? You're logic based on an assumption, or science that admits to not being able to explain everything but seeks answers in a process backed by information? It is an easy choice for me.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW, I didn't answer your question with theories. I gave you observations. If you choose to partake in any type of scientific discussion you might want to learn what laws, theories, observations, variables and the like are. They will better serve your understanding of how the process works.

[JoeChalupa]

i know all about faith but i mean come on how are we today suppose to even believe much of what is said in the bible...first off the bible was written by man, that fact alone should make us deter to something more fact based, and secondly it has been translated thousands of times through the years.....lets not forget the fact that one person, cant tell another person one thing without it turning into a completely false statement before ever getting around the room. People like to add their own stuff to stories, and thats how its always been, most of the bible is probably some myth or legend like that of the greek gods.

I hear you. Today's youth is more prone to "need to see it" before they can believe it. It is like proving "love". We can't see it but we know it is there.

Too hard to try to put into words I guess but for me the fact that God exists can be seen everywhere from the smiles on my daughter's faces to the feeling I get inside when I look at them sleeping.

I mean I have no idea how radio waves travel across the air and come out of box sitting in my bedroom but I know it works.

I believe in the power of the Holy Spirit so thus believe in the Bible.

But I understand how you can feel like you do.

I mean....I don't get the Quattro thing at all. :)

[bigzak25]

i know all about faith but i mean come on how are we today suppose to even believe much of what is said in the bible...first off the bible was written by man, that fact alone should make us deter to something more fact based, and secondly it has been translated thousands of times through the years.....lets not forget the fact that one person, cant tell another person one thing without it turning into a completely false statement before ever getting around the room. People like to add their own stuff to stories, and thats how its always been, most of the bible is probably some myth or legend like that of the greek gods.

you know nothing about faith. you only have faith in yourself, which is great, but it's not enough.

yes, much was written by man. who created man? who was speaking to man and telling him what to write? who is man writing about? Why don't you trust man? What happend bro?

myth or legend like the greek gods?

you are funny man :lol


you need to listen to your family. they love you and are trying to tell you the truth...:tu

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Kip how do you explain DNA? Or the fact that they can clone human beings?

If I can get myself cloned and this person thinks, talks, walks, eats, shits, sleeps exactly like me, how do you explain that? Did they clone my soul too?