EU Britian stay

[Winehole23]

When there's any mention of helping these Americans off the street, in come the "handouts", "bootstraps" and "welfare queens" rants, tbh...the people who scream about taking care of unhoused Americans first generally don't care about them either -- the only acceptable explanation for penury is loserdom, and losers deserve bupkis.

[ElNono]

Yes that does occur. My opinion has changed recently as homelessness is unavoidable here in SoCal as you know yourself. I think employment is the only consistent solution I have seen. People need to feel self-worth and hope. Especially effective when tackling drug addiction

Don't want to hijack thread.

We also need to accept that the world has changed and continues to change. Automation, services, remote work, etc. This isn't the 1950's and we're not going back there either unless this planet gets nuked into oblivion and we have to start again (at which point how we feel doesn't matter).

There's going to be more people, less low-skilled jobs, and at some point we might even see middle-skill jobs disappearing as well. We need to start having an adult conversation about this, and what we're going to do about it. It can't be driven by dogma or partisan politics, but, unfortunately, it probably will be.

On your point about addiction, we really need a multi-pronged approach. A good start would be legalizing and regulating weed (I don't smoke, but it's really no more harmful than alcohol, tbh), and shift enforcement on the real family-destroyers, which are hard drugs.

[boutons_deux]

The problem for USA isn't "the world",

it's corrupt, predatory, extractive, corrupt Capitalism having bribed, corrupted Congress to let Capitalists run amok under neo-liberalism.

As bribed, Congress has rigged the tax system in favor of the oligarchy.

[pgardn]

Yes that does occur. My opinion has changed recently as homelessness is unavoidable here in SoCal as you know yourself. I think employment is the only consistent solution I have seen. People need to feel self-worth and hope. Especially effective when tackling drug addiction

Don't want to hijack thread.

Absolutely.
And part of your understanding has to be that when you grow up in a life of poverty with no hope and no skins in the game, so fcked up you cant even rely on your parents, that this is a life in trouble.
Your solution. Lazy bastard, lift yourself up. No excuses. Like thinking everyone starts out exactly the same in this country. Not educating and solving this problem leads to huge costs. But it easy to label the stupid black culture wants to be lazy and live like shit. Thats some absolutely stupid shit thinking. And it happens with whites in poverty as well. Where the hell are their parents? Pass the problem on, aint my problem.

Well it will be your and my problem.

[Winehole23]

Northern Ireland feeling all on their own now.
The drug dealing Ulster men are laughing as their kids are attacking police.
The side effects of such a ridiculously stupid deal.
This part would not have been thought of as a problem when they first voted against GB staying.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/army-sends-special-forces-tinderbox-23891992

[Winehole23]

‘I am sorry that happened’: Sinn Fein leader Mary Lou McDonald regrets IRA murder of Lord Mountbatten (https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/sinn-fein-ira-lord-mountbatten-b1833417.html)

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/M1HXb8b/unknown.png

[ElNono]

Now do poland... :lol

[Ef-man]

Sorry to burst bubbles.

First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals.

The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.

The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.

It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.

The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals

[FrostKing]

Now do poland... :lol
Austrians invested in our infrastructure and are credited today. Germans leveled our modern infrastructure. Russians did not invest and stagnated our development.

There are areas in Africa that are still worse off than the Europeans left it.

[FrostKing]

Sorry to burst bubbles.

First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals.

The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.

The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.

It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.

The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals
We all had a good laugh at this one. Thank you for the humorous flashback :tu

[pgardn]

https://i.ibb.co/M1HXb8b/unknown.png

Africans?

The British formed empires in many more places than just Africa which contained people with a variety of skin color.
It was to form "trade". It was to acquire materials and wealth that could not be found in the British Isles. Then when the British were on the verge of getting tossed after the empire started to crumble, they would be so firmly entrenched they would claim they were teaching the "natives" to drink tea with one finger not touching the cup? This was their cultural legacy? This was civilizing? Now they did do a good job of turning areas that were fighting each other, into areas that would fight them. In many places they would not slaughter the native people so they could be used as the work force to help bring goods and materials back. So yeah, they did try to keep them alive and reliably controlled to do the work.

Where did you get the above from? HistoryLessonsForWhitePeople
The Spanish did they same and claimed it was to also give the conquered people religion.

In both cases the countries they conquered did retain some of the European habits so you claim this was the civilizing part or what? The Spanish had a huge influence on the spread of Catholicism. But the number of people they killed getting to bend to the will of their God and savior was not at all a Jesus-like method.

[Winehole23]

Sorry to burst bubbles.

First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals.

The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.

The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.

It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.

The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-revealsBlack Britons, go figure.

Btw, doesn't the word Welsh mean slave?

https://www.etymonline.com/word/welsh

[Winehole23]

(according to Anglo-Saxon culture)

[Ef-man]

Black Britons, go figure.

Btw, doesn't the word Welsh mean slave?

https://www.etymonline.com/word/welsh

Eh, a Welshman is just a Brit few can understand.

[Winehole23]

Eh, a Welshman is just a Brit few can understand.I wouldn't say that to a Welshman. YMMV.

[FrostKing]

Africans?

The British formed empires in many more places than just Africa which contained people with a variety of skin color.
It was to form "trade". It was to acquire materials and wealth that could not be found in the British Isles. Then when the British were on the verge of getting tossed after the empire started to crumble, they would be so firmly entrenched they would claim they were teaching the "natives" to drink tea with one finger not touching the cup? This was their cultural legacy? This was civilizing? Now they did do a good job of turning areas that were fighting each other, into areas that would fight them. In many places they would not slaughter the native people so they could be used as the work force to help bring goods and materials back. So yeah, they did try to keep them alive and reliably controlled to do the work.

Where did you get the above from? HistoryLessonsForWhitePeople
The Spanish did they same and claimed it was to also give the conquered people religion.

In both cases the countries they conquered did retain some of the European habits so you claim this was the civilizing part or what? The Spanish had a huge influence on the spread of Catholicism. But the number of people they killed getting to bend to the will of their God and savior was not at all a Jesus-like method.
Sounds like Globalization. Sure the tactics and language was more old fashioned and barbaric.

[Winehole23]

Royal Navy to observe Jersey blockade, the French weigh cutting electricity to Jersey.

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[Winehole23]

Scotland has voted for a second independence referendum, says Nicola Sturgeon (https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,scotland-has-voted-for-a-second-independence-referendum-says-nicola-sturgeon)

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

the so-called "China travel ban" looked somewhat like this in 2020

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[Winehole23]

"UK screws Northern Ireland"



But Northern Ireland, created in 1921 when Britain carved six counties out of Ireland’s northeast, is not enjoying its centenary. Its most ardent upholders, the unionists who believe that the place they call “our wee country” is and must forever remain an intrinsic part of the United Kingdom, are in utter disarray. Their largest party has ousted two leaders (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/17/edwin-poots-resigns-as-dup-leader-after-21-days) within a matter of weeks, while an angry minority (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57436996) has taken to the streets waving flags and threatening violence. And the British government, in resolving Brexit, placed a new border in the Irish Sea (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/15/world/europe/northern-island-great-britain.html).
It’s harsh reward for what Northern Ireland’s first prime minister, James Craig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4wDU-H_ZE), called “the most loyal part of Great Britain.” But the Protestant statelet is not what it was. Well on its way to having a Catholic majority, the country’s once dominant political force — unionism — now finds itself out of step with the community that traditionally gave it uncritical support. And for all his talk of the territorial integrity (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/13/boris-johnson-closes-g7-summit-with-vow-to-protect-integrity-of-uk) of the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has made clear his government would cheerfully ditch this last little fragment of Britain’s empire if it continues to complicate Brexit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/3cZgvLd/20210701-170101.jpg

Literally me right now. USA is the junior leagues to a place like this. Europa forever and I am returning.

[FrostKing]

America is loud, obnoxious, wasteful, fat, disorganized, illogical and just plain stupid.

[pgardn]

Sounds like Globalization. Sure the tactics and language was more old fashioned and barbaric.

wtf is globalization?

Sorry to inform you that we no longer just do sailing ships and are without radio and other communications.

[FrostKing]

wtf is globalization?

Sorry to inform you that we no longer just do sailing ships and are without radio and other communications.

You are living in a place that is inferior yet told you are shaping the world. Meanwhile we are all collectively laughing at you.

[ElNono]

https://i.ibb.co/3cZgvLd/20210701-170101.jpg

Literally me right now. USA is the junior leagues to a place like this. Europa forever and I am returning.

tbh, you could tell me that's Santa Monica, and I'll believe you.

[pgardn]

You are living in a place that is inferior yet told you are shaping the world. Meanwhile we are all collectively laughing at you.

Poland laughing at the US...
So this is globalization?

Transport of goods and materials is much easier now as is the flow of information.
sorry it ruined your 18 th century world.

[boutons_deux]

Brexit: Exporting my fish to China is easier than to France

A Scottish fisherman says it's "cheaper and quicker" to export his shellfish to Asia than it is to France under post-Brexit rules.

Because the UK is out of the single market,

British fish exports to Europe are now subject to new customs and veterinary checks.
Jamie McMillan says this means

three hours of paperwork every morning to get his shellfish to the EU.

He told BBC Panorama he had turned to Asian markets to keep his business afloat and save his employees' jobs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57696461

Conservatives fuck up EVERYTHING they touch

[Winehole23]

Little England taking it on the chin.


Schools told to prepare for food shortages (https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/wholesalers/schools-told-to-prepare-for-food-shortages/659227.article)

[Thread]

Little England taking it on the chin.


Schools told to prepare for food shortages (https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/wholesalers/schools-told-to-prepare-for-food-shortages/659227.article)



They never have actually exited. They just ignore it.

[pgardn]

They never have actually exited. They just ignore it.

Yeah they actually have.
they are still figuring out how to deal with all the new trade rules so some still stand with the EU which the Tories were supposed to get rid of.
But they have been hurt economically by this for little to no reason.
They had some legit gripes about the EU, but they pushed it way too far claiming the EU was requiring them to take more Pakis and stupid shit like this. So now they got trouble with their own Northern Ireland and Ireland is just amazed.

They ship goods back and forth never dropping them off. Its ultimate stupidity. No PLAN. Just like healthcare under Trump.
"Whoever knew this would be so difficult?" uhhh the entire world, Donald... and Boris....

Shot in foot. Still feeling effects.

[Thread]

Yeah they actually have.
they are still figuring out how to deal with all the new trade rules so some still stand with the EU which the Tories were supposed to get rid of.
But they have been hurt economically by this for little to no reason.
They had some legit gripes about the EU, but they pushed it way too far claiming the EU was requiring them to take more Pakis and stupid shit like this. So now they got trouble with their own Northern Ireland and Ireland is just amazed.

They ship goods back and forth never dropping them off. Its ultimate stupidity. No PLAN. Just like healthcare under Trump.
"Whoever knew this would be so difficult?" uhhh the entire world, Donald... and Boris....

Shot in foot. Still feeling effects.

Fine, split hairs, like you always do when I have you over a barrel; they're playing ignorant, playing possum, dragging their feet..."They think they won, but I'll resist this every day that ends in (y) forever, just like the yanks did that fat Trump guy. That worked. Drove him right into the shitter. And now they got their way."

[DMX7]

Little England taking it on the chin.


Schools told to prepare for food shortages (https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/wholesalers/schools-told-to-prepare-for-food-shortages/659227.article)



I didn't read it but how much can this be attributable to the pandemic related supply chain issues.

[pgardn]

Fine, split hairs, like you always do when I have you over a barrel; they're playing ignorant, playing possum, dragging their feet..."They think they won, but I'll resist this every day that ends in (y) forever, just like the yanks did that fat Trump guy. That worked. Drove him right into the shitter. And now they got their way."

Yeah... they won.
The rest of EU is just ragged. Germany is in shambles, sure thing.

[Winehole23]

I didn't read it but how much can this be attributable to the pandemic related supply chain issues.England's major trading partner (and traditional source of AG labor and lorry drivers) is the EU. It's not a complicated supply chain. As I understand it, the main hurdles here are related to customs and the (lack of) free movement of labor.

[Thread]

Yeah... they won.
The rest of EU is just ragged. Germany is in shambles, sure thing.


Germany? Shit, they got it easy, don't have to have a military industrial complex...they lucked out with their uncle Adolf 80 years ago and now Germany doesn't have to send German children to the slaughters. Instead we have to send our children to the slaughters, they come back thru Dover AFB like the 13 that just came back thru there.

[Winehole23]

England beshitting itself

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[Thread]

England beshitting itself

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Yep, they have nary intention of EXIT. Just resist it from day one and every day thereafter that ends in (y).
tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

1438106291294154754

[Thread]

1438106291294154754

aka [[[Just resist it from day one and every day thereafter that ends in (y).
tee, hee.]]]

[pgardn]

Germany? Shit, they got it easy, don't have to have a military industrial complex...they lucked out with their uncle Adolf 80 years ago and now Germany doesn't have to send German children to the slaughters. Instead we have to send our children to the slaughters, they come back thru Dover AFB like the 13 that just came back thru there.

Yeah thats not gonna quite explain that culture.
They have a history of being very capable and industrious with a military.
they also adhere a bit better to unified responses than we do.
Even though we call ourselves UNITED.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FADnFGYWYAA1ysP?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

GB is short 100,000 truck drivers. BoJo's special visa will cover 5,000.

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

.

[Winehole23]

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/eu-must-play-hard-ball-if-uk-triggers-article-16-1.4723860

[pgardn]

But now they are free...


From what? they dont know...
They got their populist paranoia mixed with their economics and... fail.
Sounds familiar.

[pgardn]

"As long as it gets all the Pakis out of GB we are good"

Typical dumb ass who follows the Torries.

[Winehole23]

Historic cull of pigs in the UK. Worker attrition from COVID and short-sighted restrictions on immigration have made it necessary. Some farmers are even doing abortions on their herds.


https://news.sky.com/story/the-soul-destroying-impact-of-the-pig-crisis-and-why-its-happening-12479145

[pgardn]

This thing is a lot worse than I expected.
Mix in a little Covid and what a shit show.
The lack of flexibility is amazing.

Boris making special Visa's... "Damn, we dont have enough people to work these jobs" Who would have thought... Who would have thought health care would be so difficult... We elect simpleton's with a simpleton platform of hate and we get bitch slapped.

[Winehole23]

makes sense, tbh


THE Speaker of the House of Commons (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/westminster/) is to raise accounts of drug use in the Westminster (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/westminster/) Parliament with the Metropolitan Police
Lindsay Hoyle, who has acted as Commons speaker since the 2019 General Election, told the BBC (https://www.thenational.scot/news/media-and-the-bbc/) he would speak to the police about reports in the Sunday Times.

An investigation by the paper tested 12 men’s, women’s, mixed, and disabled toilets across the Parliamentary estate for traces of cocaine on a single day. All but one returned a positive test.

All 12 of the toilets in question were available only to people with a parliamentary pas

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19763599.cocaine-use-westminster-raised-met-police-lindsay-hoyle-says/

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHHy8XPXMAQROx0?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Wonder what accounts for that

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOw4ZLuXoAMJEMK?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

UK about to get smaller, Scotland might not be far behind.



Sinn Fein, the former political wing of the IRA, looked set to claim top spot in elections in British-controlled Northern Ireland for the first time on Friday, a historic shift that could bring the once-remote prospect of a united Ireland closer.https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220507-sinn-fein-on-course-for-seismic-n-ireland-win-topping-first-preference-vote

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaU6r69WAAAuGzr?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Eat moldy food and wear a jumper this winter, you'll be fine


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbPjcQlXkAAMiKk?format=jpg&name=large

[velik_m]

Looks like Truss is doing a speedrun on this whole PM thing. Who will be the next Britain's PM?


Tory MP and former minister: 'Liz Truss is 'f*****'

The disquiet with Conservative MPs over the mini-budget is growing.

One Tory MP who served as a minister under Boris Johnson has told Sky News: "Liz is f*****."

"She is taking on markets and the Bank of England.

"Her, Kwasi, Philp and Simon [Clarke] are playing A-level economics with people's lives. You cannot have monetary policy and fiscal policy at loggerheads. Something has to give."

The source also claimed moves to trigger a vote of no confidence in Ms Truss's leadership were already underway:

"They are already putting letters in as think she will crash the economy. The tax cuts don’t matter as all noise anyway - mainly reversing back to the status quo this year.

...

https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-living-latest-chancellor-hints-at-further-tax-cuts-as-pound-falls-to-historic-low-12615118?postid=4532488#liveblog-body

[Winehole23]

Looks like Truss is doing a speedrun on this whole PM thing. Who will be the next Britain's PM?



https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-living-latest-chancellor-hints-at-further-tax-cuts-as-pound-falls-to-historic-low-12615118?postid=4532488#liveblog-body The Pound crashed on the announcement of new tax cuts, gonna be a rugged winter

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe2gRnTWAAAezK6?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

1581289800774000640

[boutons_deux]

Conservatives cut UK out of Europe

Conservative policies have been bad to hilarious for many years

[pgardn]

Truss completely ignored that Brexit has been a huge failure.

Bye-bye

[boutons_deux]

Truss completely ignored that Brexit has been a huge failure.

Bye-bye

Brexit is now a b word,

the Brits never admitting that they shot themselves in the gonads with Brexit

And of course UK conservatives led the push for Brexit, cementing conservatives worldwide as being really really shitty at governing, they don't even try to govern. It's all 100% bad faith bullshit

[boutons_deux]

Liz Truss, Things Are Bleaker in Britain Than Anyone Realizes

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/liz-truss-resignation-britain/

[DMX7]

Liz Truss, Things Are Bleaker in Britain Than Anyone Realizes

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/liz-truss-resignation-britain/

Every other country in western Europe is dealing with essentially the same list of problem -- they've just managed to keep their leaders in office... for now.

[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

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[boutons_deux]

Ain't conservative governance a real hoot?

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1583602938089336834

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1583602938089336834

Boris Johnson pulled out. It's just Sunak who will continue Truss' reign of terror.

[Winehole23]

Boris Johnson pulled out. It's just Sunak who will continue Truss' reign of terror.I wouldn't rule out Mordaunt, but the end result would be much the same.

[FrostKing]

Brexit, Corona and Eastern War are separate.

[Winehole23]

Brexit, Corona and Eastern War are separate.uh, who said they were the same?

[FrostKing]

uh, who said they were the same?
Notice you are in the minority

Sit down

[FrostKing]

EU Polska will defend and fight.

[baseline bum]

Sunak it is

[Winehole23]

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[pgardn]

EU Polska will defend and fight.

The Brits are not going anywhere.
Some of THE BEST intelligence is coming from them as well.

They just had no idea how far reaching Brexit was. Today's conservatives... They used to actually have a clue about actions today have consequences for the future. Conservatives just seem to use these scattered, transitory, populists movements of the day as guidelines for platforms that are outrageously stupid economically and socially. And then think the blue team is responsible for their mess.

[Winehole23]

What's the sound of England getting screwed again by the Tories?

Hats off, they offered UBI before Labour. Who knows, it might even do some good.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64278651

[FrostKing]

What's the sound of England getting screwed again by the Tories?

Hats off, they offered UBI before Labour. Who knows, it might even do some good.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64278651
British guitarist in the Jeff Beck baby

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmnL-XAXEAEUega?format=png&name=small

[boutons_deux]

UK GDP down, thank you BoBo, Russia, Farage, etc Conservatives, by 7.5%

USA GDP down by 15% in the 1930s

UK 1/2 way there

[Winehole23]

The real answer of course is that every Scotsman hates England more.

[FrostKing]

The real answer of course is that every Scotsman hates England more.
- A nation so far from the conflict & history is probably best avoiding involvement

- Winehole posting random Scottish trans news.

:lol carry on

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/JqNLg67/Screenshot-20230924-082621-Chrome.png

Europeans are collectively fed up. We will not accept homeless on our streets.

EU leadership begging for Far Right to come to the rescue. Which few of us want it to come to.

[Thread]

https://i.ibb.co/JqNLg67/Screenshot-20230924-082621-Chrome.png

Europeans are collectively fed up. We will not accept homeless on our streets.

EU leadership begging for Far Right to come to the rescue. Which few of us want it to come to.

We're way too busy harvesting votes on the mainland to accommodate this bunch, but "Leave your #...it can be done. And if done, you owe us. Comprehenday?"

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Brexit was an epochal self-inflicted wound for the UK.

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[Thread]

Brexit was an epochal self-inflicted wound for the UK.

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No, it wasn't GB that fucked it, it was GB's enemies&"friends" who decided to feed at the frenzy for whatever they could scavenge and peel off for themselves while the gettin' was good...America included.

[velik_m]

The next Labour goverment can have an easy economic win by getting back into European common market.

[Winehole23]

The next Labour goverment can have an easy economic win by getting back into European common market.is there someone in Labour pushing for that?

[velik_m]

is there someone in Labour pushing for that?

No, not that i know of. The opposite if anything: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-brexit-eu-single-market-b2361491.html

But reality will make UK rejoin sooner or later. The shit economy is why they begged to get into EU in the first place.

[Winehole23]

Sunak cratering (https://x.com/NoContextBrits/status/1731705101041975600?s=20)

1731705101041975600

[Winehole23]

No, not that i know of. The opposite if anything: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-brexit-eu-single-market-b2361491.html

But reality will make UK rejoin sooner or later. The shit economy is why they begged to get into EU in the first place.


To mark the 9th anniversary of the day the UK voted out, we asked readers to give their opinions on Brexit, with over 25,000 people voting in the poll. In response to the question 'do you think Brexit has failed?', an overwhelming 71% (18,565) voted yes, slamming the referendum as a 'disaster', while just 29% (7,520) voted no.


Similarly, in response to the question 'do you feel better off since Brexit?', 78% (20,072) said no, while just 22% (20,072) said yes. We also asked 'should there be a second Brexit referendum?' and 'would you like to rejoin the EU?' - responses in both sections backed yes, with 66% (17,129) and 68% (17,572) respectively.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-complete-disaster-referendum-should-35488347

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:jaofttdraq7gaxo3uaswlesg/bafkreidd6tup2d6biorkm7sjqirpbrdxnv44rt34ycrs7ahul zzhktphxm@jpeg

[koriwhat]

LOL Europe is full of pussies handing their countries over to cousin fucking retards. :lol

[Winehole23]

like, who?

[ChumpDumper]

like, who?

I dunno. Tim Pool said something. I listen to him daily.

[Winehole23]

like, if he wanted to talk about Germany, that would be fairly obvious but no

no comeback

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

$$$

~ -$40 billion/year


This paper examines the impact of the UK's decision to leave the European Union (Brexit) in 2016. Using almost a decade of data since the referendum, we combine simulations based on macro data with estimates derived from micro data collected through our Decision Maker Panel survey. These estimates suggest that by 2025, Brexit had reduced UK GDP by 6% to 8%, with the impact accumulating gradually over time. We estimate that investment was reduced by between 12% and 18%, employment by 3% to 4% and productivity by 3% to 4%. These large negative impacts reflect a combination of elevated uncertainty, reduced demand, diverted management time, and increased misallocation of resources from a protracted Brexit process. Comparing these with contemporary forecasts – providing a rare macro example to complement the burgeoning micro- literature of social science predictions – shows that these forecasts were accurate over a 5-year horizon, but they underestimated the impact over a decade.https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/working-paper/economic-impact-brexit

[Winehole23]

there is an obvious answer

the UK can't reverse this trend without more immigration to the UK


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:xabwvf57eu2lawtmvheq3ubi/bafkreiacqszkacjyya4dlldcm2cr6xmlrwh66n2xv5wosv44e wstbvub4a@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Brexit was a big unforced L, even worse than expected


This paper examines the impact of the UK's decision to leave the European Union (Brexit) in 2016. Using almost a decade of data since the referendum, we combine simulations based on macro data with estimates derived from micro data collected through our Decision Maker Panel survey. These estimates suggest that by 2025, Brexit had reduced UK GDP by 6% to 8%, with the impact accumulating gradually over time. We estimate that investment was reduced by between 12% and 18%, employment by 3% to 4% and productivity by 3% to 4%. These large negative impacts reflect a combination of elevated uncertainty, reduced demand, diverted management time, and increased misallocation of resources from a protracted Brexit process. Comparing these with contemporary forecasts – providing a rare macro example to complement the burgeoning micro-literature of social science predictions – shows that these forecasts were accurate over a 5-year horizon, but they underestimated the impact over a decade.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w34459

[velik_m]

Starmer to bring back 76 EU laws

Sir Keir Starmer is set to bring 76 European Union directives back on to the UK statute book as the Government seeks closer alignment to the single market.

The Prime Minister will introduce new legislation in the King’s Speech in May to allow Labour to transfer swathes of European regulation covering the agriculture and food sectors.

The new bill will pave the way for a sector-wide trade deal with the EU, which would see the UK adopt reams of Brussels red tape covering areas such as food hygiene, organic pet food and even marmalade production.

Rachel Reeves set out plans last week to incorporate EU laws in key sectors into British law. Speaking at her Mais economic lecture, the Chancellor said the Government would seek closer alignment in the “national interest”.

Certain industries with “unique characteristics or strategic importance for the UK” would remain under British law, she explained, but that would be the “exception, not the norm”.
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/starmer-bring-back-76-eu-113815102.html