religion of peace again

[Spurtacular]

Muzzies at it again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sri-lanka-police-say-more-than-50-people-killed-in-blast-at-a-church-in-katuwapitiya-north-of-colombo/ar-BBW8BGd?ocid=spartandhp

[Pelicans78]

Muzzies at it again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sri-lanka-police-say-more-than-50-people-killed-in-blast-at-a-church-in-katuwapitiya-north-of-colombo/ar-BBW8BGd?ocid=spartandhp

I guess you didn’t read the article and don’t know much about the Buddhists in that country trying to suppress other religions in that country especially against Hindus.

[apalisoc_9]

I guess you didn’t read the article and don’t know much about the Buddhists in that country trying to suppress other religions in that country especially against Hindus.

Yeah they've been bombing areas. Crazy because the average derp wont care for this news enough to dig deeper and just blame it on muslims. Even after the fact. :lol. Its no wonder they're so filled with hate. They look for confirmation bias whenever and wherever :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Islamaphobia is a tool by the Zionists to fear monger on Muslims. Look at all the hate Ilhan Omar is getting. The Christian right hate Muslims yet both have so much in common...look at our president holding hands with the head choppers in Saudi Arabia. The hypocrisy

[boutons_deux]

Trash tweeted MILLIONS dead in Sri Lanka

[Spurtacular]

I guess you didn’t read the article and don’t know much about the Buddhists in that country trying to suppress other religions in that country especially against Hindus.


The government has acknowledged that it had "prior information" of attacks on churches involving a little known local Islamist group

[MultiTroll]

^ wonder is the UnIslamic Tards were trying to make it look like the Buhds did it.

[Chris]

Yeah guys, watch out for those radical Buddhists :lol

[Chris]

No thread on Sri Lanka? That New Zealand one went up pretty right after the incident.

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1120014783187705856

[Spurtacular]

No thread on Sri Lanka? That New Zealand one went up pretty right after the incident.

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1120014783187705856

We're not pushing to outlaw explosives?

[Spurtacular]

Yeah guys, watch out for those radical Buddhists :lol

:lmao

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

"Easter worshippers"

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

"Easter worshippers"

Intentional, tbh.

[Pelicans78]

Yeah guys, watch out for those radical Buddhists :lol

Obviously your knowledge is limited to internet memes and the doctored New Testament, but read about what the Buddhists are doing in Sri Lanka and Myanmar to other religious minorities in those countries.

[Chris]

Obviously your knowledge is limited to internet memes and the doctored New Testament, but read about what the Buddhists are doing in Sri Lanka and Myanmar to other religious minorities in those countries.

Nah, I'm good. I'll just stick to my internet memes and doctored New Testament.

[Spurtacular]

Obviously your knowledge is limited to internet memes and the doctored New Testament, but read about what the Buddhists are doing in Sri Lanka and Myanmar to other religious minorities in those countries.

Tell us about it. I've never heard the MSM report on terrorist Buddhists.

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

"Easter worshippers"
Were they not worshiping during Easter?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

Were they not worshiping during Easter?

Explain.

Show us Obama tweeting Ramadan worshipers.

[Pavlov]

Show us Obama tweeting Ramadan worshipers.Derp, I asked you a question.

Were they worshiping in churches during Easter?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Derp, I asked you a question.

Were they worshiping in churches during Easter?

Yes or no.

So, you need to pout that the obvious answer wasn't given? Par.

For what it's worth, it could be an innocent enough wording.

[Chris]

Show us Obama tweeting Ramadan worshipers.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120092655541719042

[Pavlov]

So, you need to pout that the obvious answer wasn't given? Par.

For what it's worth, it could be an innocent enough wording.
Then what did you mean by this?

Intentional, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Show us Obama tweeting Ramadan worshipers.This makes no sense.

The victims in these attacks were worshiping at churches during Easter.

What are you trying to say?

[Spurtacular]

Then what did you mean by this?

Obviously, what I believe to be the most likely happening.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1120013694073810944

[Spurtacular]

This makes no sense.

The victims in this attacks were worshiping at churches during Easter.

What are you trying to say?

Ever, obviously. Geez, you're the dippiest troglodyte of all-time.

[Pavlov]

Ever, obviously. Geez, you're the dippiest troglodyte of all-time.

:lol derp folds again

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp folds again

:madrun This is muh W. :madrun

:lmao

[Pavlov]

:madrun This is muh W. :madrun

:lmaonobody wins anything here, derp.

You need to quit driving yourself crazy.

[Chris]

1.) I've never in my life (until today) head of the term "Easter woshippers."

2.) ABC,Obama,Clinton, and Castro all used the term like robots.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569

Who's writing the talking points?

[Pavlov]

1.) I've never in my life (until today) head of the term "Easter woshippers."

2.) ABC,Obama,Clinton, and Castro all used the term like robots.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569

Who's writing the talking points?:lmao moar conspiracies

Happy Easter, worshipers!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120102879916904449

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120102879916904449
:lmao does this persecute you, Qhris?

[Spurtacular]

nobody wins anything here, derp.

You need to quit driving yourself crazy.

You play for tiny w's all day, everyday.

[Pavlov]

You play for tiny w's all day, everyday.Read this very slowly, derp.

Nobody

wins

anything

here.

You're driving yourself insane.

[Spurtacular]

Read this very slowly, derp.

Nobody

wins

anything

here.

You're driving yourself insane.

You play for tiny w's all day. If you want to admit you never get them, that's fine. :lmao

[Pavlov]

You play for tiny w's all day. If you want to admit you never get them, that's fine. :lmaoDerp.

You don't win anything.

I don't win anything.

Nobody wins anything.

Do you understand?

[Spurtacular]

Derp.

You don't win anything.

I don't win anything.

Nobody wins anything.

Do you understand?

I haven't claimed any records. I've said you play for tiny w's all day. This is no different. :lol

[Pavlov]

I haven't claimed any records. I've said you play for tiny w's all day. This is no different. :lolDo you think you win here, derp?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Do you think you win here, derp?

Yes or no.

I mean if you're taking all those L's, then someone's probably getting W's.

[Pavlov]

I mean if you're taking all those L's, then someone's probably getting W's.Derp, you didn't answer the question.

Do you think you win here?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Derp, you didn't answer the question.

Do you think you win here?

Yes or no.

Haven't gave it any thought. I tend to just :lol at you taking your L's, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Haven't gave it any thought. I tend to just :lol at you taking your L's, tbh.So why are you obsessed with Ws and Ls, derp?

Just be present like always.

[Spurtacular]

So why are you obsessed with Ws and Ls, derp?

Just be present like always.

A fly's always buzzing whether I'm here for it or not.

[Pavlov]

A fly's always buzzing whether I'm here for it or not.No derp -- you're the one always going on about Ws and Ls.

More than anyone else.

Why?

[Spurtacular]

No derp -- you're the one always going on about Ws and Ls.

More than anyone else.

Why?

You stink the place up with your L's.

You could change if you were a normal person that cared about personal improvement; but you're a psychopav.

I'm just shining the light.

[Pavlov]

You stink the place up with your L's.

You could change if you were a normal person that cared about personal improvement; but you're a psychopav.

I'm just shining the light.Are you a normal person, derp?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Are you a normal person, derp?

Yes or no.

Normal in the sense that I'm not a pscychopav like you.

:lol Compulsive pscychopav just buzzing from one question to the next. Par.

[Pavlov]

Normal in the sense that I'm not a pscychopav like you.

:lol Compulsive pscychopav just buzzing from one question to the next. Par.Are you a normal person, derp?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Are you a normal person, derp?

Yes or no.

In context, yes.

:cry But mun pigeon hole :cry

:lmao

[Pavlov]

In context, yes.

:cry But mun pigeon hole :cry

:lmaoYou want to reserve the right to call yourself abnormal.

:lol ok

[Chris]

1.) I've never in my life (until today) head of the term "Easter woshippers."

2.) ABC,Obama,Clinton, and Castro all used the term like robots.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569

Who's writing the talking points?

Interesting theory here:

(@:45 seconds and on)

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1120141310327832577

[Pavlov]

Tourists, Easter worshippers lament closure of Notre Dame

https://www.foxnews.com/world/tourists-easter-worshippers-lament-closure-of-notre-dame

:lol Qhris

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/8mMYCVg/IMG-20190421-WA0009.jpg

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/sQtcN0C/IMG-20190422-WA0000.jpg

[MultiTroll]

Sri Lanka on Monday accused a local Islamist extremist group, the National Thowheed Jamaath, of being behind a string of Easter bombings against churches and hotels that killed at least 290 people.


The report also identified several members by name, including its alleged leader, Mohamed Zaharan. Mujibur Rahman, a member of Sri Lanka’s Parliament who was briefed on the report, said it was based on input from Indian intelligence agencies.

[MultiTroll]

Wickremesinghe, the prime minister, told reporters Sunday that some government officials had prior intelligence about the attacks but did not act on it. “Information was there,” he said at a news conference. “This is a matter we need to look into.” Rahman, the member of Parliament briefed on the report, is affiliated with the prime minister and said Wickremesinghe “had the letter in his hand” when he met with lawmakers Sunday, referring to the notice. “He told us that the Indian intelligence had conveyed threats of possible attacks. Two possible dates were mentioned, April 4 and 11

[Blake]

Yea, disciplining a child is so evil. Fuck you're a cuck retard.

Why do you dismiss the part about striking a child with a rod?

You avoid the main point in almost every discussion. It's why nobody takes you serious. It's why everyone laughs at you. You're an illiterate moron and a derp. You'll always be a derp.

Now do your little clown dance where you call me a cuck and surround it with lols. Get to work, derp.

[Blake]

You stink the place up with your L's.

You could change if you were a normal person that cared about personal improvement; but you're a psychopav.

I'm just shining the light.

:lol says the forum derp that stinks the place up with stalker troll threads and multiple accounts.

[Spurtacular]

:lol says the forum derp that stinks the place up with stalker troll threads and multiple accounts.

:lol Victim cuck :lol

[Spurtacular]

Why do you dismiss the part about striking a child with a rod?

You avoid the main point in almost every discussion. It's why nobody takes you serious. It's why everyone laughs at you. You're an illiterate moron and a derp. You'll always be a derp.

Now do your little clown dance where you call me a cuck and surround it with lols. Get to work, derp.

Are you under the impression that corporal discipline has not been the order throughout history. Suck it up, snowflake.

[Blake]

Are you under the impression that corporal discipline has not been the order throughout history. Suck it up, snowflake.


Why do you dismiss the part about striking a child with a rod?

You avoid the main point in almost every discussion. It's why nobody takes you serious. It's why everyone laughs at you. You're an illiterate moron and a derp. You'll always be a derp.

Now do your little clown dance where you call me a cuck and surround it with lols. Get to work, derp.

Derps parents beating the shit out of him explains things.

[Spurtacular]

Derps parents beating the shit out of him explains things.

Are you under the impression that the standard was not corporal discipline throughout history, cuck?

[Blake]

Derps parents beating the shit out of him explains things.

[Psychopav Chump]

https://i.ibb.co/sQtcN0C/IMG-20190422-WA0000.jpg

What's your conspiracy theory?

[Spurtacular]

Obviously your knowledge is limited to internet memes and the doctored New Testament, but read about what the Buddhists are doing in Sri Lanka and Myanmar to other religious minorities in those countries.

Muzzies did it. Have any more context you'd care to add to this? Cos it's not holding up very well.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Derp, I asked you a question.

Were they worshiping in churches during Easter?

Yes or no.I wasn't and have you ever seen Obama tweet Ramadan?

[Pelicans78]

Muzzies did it. Have any more context you'd care to add to this? Cos it's not holding up very well.

Here’s what the Buddhists are doing in Myanmar (Burma)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lionsroar.com/what-does-buddhism-have-to-do-with-the-ethnic-cleansing-in-myanmar/amp/

https://daily.jstor.org/how-is-buddhism-being-used-to-justify-violence-in-myanmar/

And Buddhists in Sri Lanka have been attacking Hindus and other minorities for many years now.

http://politicalviolenceataglance.org/2014/07/01/why-are-buddhist-monks-promoting-violence-in-sri-lanka/

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Were they not worshiping during Easter?

Explain.He is saying that Obama thinks Christians worshipping on Easter are fake worshippers. I would agree with Obama on that because there are a lot of fakes that worship only on Easter or he is suggesting that Obama is a fake Christian and is Muslim and i also agree with that.

[Winehole23]

Factoid: Sri Lanka was the birthplace of suicide bombing.

[Spurtacular]

He is saying that Obama thinks Christians worshipping on Easter are fake worshippers. I would agree with Obama on that because there are a lot of fakes that worship only on Easter or he is suggesting that Obama is a fake Christian and is Muslim and i also agree with that.

:lol

[DavidTheGoliath]

Whats wrong with calling them christians? You can say Muslim but not Christians?

[Blake]

He is saying

Who is "he"

[Winehole23]

Whats wrong with calling them christians? You can say Muslim but not Christians?on Easter Sunday, they're worshippers.

Ask Fox News, they said just the same.

[DavidTheGoliath]

So on Easter sundays they are worshippers, but on regular days they are what?

Also how come they are not addressing who did the attacks? Sri Lankans said they were muslim extremist, how come these people dont mention it?

Idk about Fox news though, we dont have that here. I just read whats on this thread.

[Spurtacular]

So on Easter sundays they are worshippers, but on regular days they are what?



They're nothing on other days. No political expediency to address them.

[Pavlov]

So on Easter sundays they are worshippers, but on regular days they are what?

Also how come they are not addressing who did the attacks? Sri Lankans said they were muslim extremist, how come these people dont mention it?

Idk about Fox news though, we dont have that here. I just read whats on this thread.Where is "here"?

Fox News is a website too. You have it "there".

[DavidTheGoliath]

Different country bro, first thing that i thought about was fox news on your tvs not online. Also i dont read foreign news sites. why single out fox though? How about the other news outlets?

I have nothing against those people who said easter worshippers, im just curious why call them that.

[Pavlov]

Different country broWhich country?

[DavidTheGoliath]

Philippines

[Pavlov]

PhilippinesI used Fox News as an example for how easy it is to find the phrase "Easter worshipers" which one of the conservative twitter dorks said he never ever read or heard of before in his life.

This board is full of right wing nutjob conspiracy theorists like the one we all call derp trying to push things like this "Easter worshipers" narrative. Derp in particular is an idiot. He is not a well person.

[Spurtacular]

I used Fox News as an example for how easy it is to find the phrase "Easter worshipers" which one of the conservative twitter dorks said he never ever read or heard of before in his life.

This board is full of right wing nutjob conspiracy theorists like the one we all call derp trying to push things like this "Easter worshipers" narrative. Derp in particular is an idiot. He is not a well person.

It's pretty obvious the term is coordinated regardless of what you want to try to pin on FNC.

[Pavlov]

It's pretty obvious the term is coordinated regardless of what you want to try to pin on FNC.Fox News used it day before the attacks.

Are they in on it whatever conspiracy you're trying to push?

What is your conspiracy theory about this anyway?

Eh, derp folds.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Coming from a predominantly Christian country, its the first time i heard that term too. We just call them Catholics, thats it.
Im just asking about the term, no polictical agendas whatsoever.

[Spurtacular]

Fox News used it day before the attacks.

Are they in on it whatever conspiracy you're trying to push?

What is your conspiracy theory about this anyway?

Eh, derp folds.

Are they in on Dems attempt in question to relegate Christians? Doubtful.

[Pavlov]

Are they in on Dems attempt in question to relegate Christians? Doubtful.How are they relegating Christians, derp?

Spell out your conspiracy theory.

lol who am I kidding?

derp folds

[Pavlov]

Coming from a predominantly Christian country, its the first time i heard that term too. We just call them Catholics, thats it.
Im just asking about the term, no polictical agendas whatsoever.There is no political agenda to the term.

People were worshiping during Easter and the easiest way to get that across in a tweet or Fox News headline is to call them Easter worshipers.

That's all.

Don't let derp try to convince you it's a conspiracy.

:lol what am I saying? He already folded. :lol

[Spurtacular]

How are they relegating Christians, derp?

Spell out your conspiracy theory.

lol who am I kidding?

derp folds

How is it a conspiracy theory if it's taking place before your eyes?

:lmao Today's blue pilled bitch :lmao

:cry muh buzzwords, though :cry

:rollin

[DavidTheGoliath]

I thought this is one of those political correctness things.
We have the same muslim extremists here in our country, and it is very sad considering they are our fellow Filipinos.
I hope the Sri Lankan government finds the culprit.

[Pavlov]

How is it a conspiracy theory if it's taking place before your eyes?

:lmao Today's blue pilled bitch :lmao

:cry muh buzzwords, though :cry

:rollinYou didn't spell out your conspiracy theory when you were called on it.

You fold.

[FrostKing]

There is no political agenda to the term.

People were worshiping during Easter and the easiest way to get that across in a tweet or Fox News headline is to call them Easter worshipers.

That's all.

Don't let derp try to convince you it's a conspiracy.

:lol what am I saying? He already folded. :lol
Nice try

Just as the New Zealand attack, the motive is to scare (terrorize) those not directly involved in the attacks

By stating "Easter worshipers" they attempt to isolate the attack as a one time thing. When in reality Christians are the group most persecuted in the World.

[Avant]

Say something good about Islam, where is it?

I have yet to randomly open up this Quran and not find something having to do with violence.


Those people ain't got shit going for them, just freaks in the sand seeing if they can fuck it up like they live. What a fucking mess,

[boutons_deux]

"some say" it was a small Islamic group in retaliation for Trash's Aussie boy shooting up mosques in NZ

but nothing is sure, yet. Seems like LE ignored warnings. SL is a divided, dysfunctional, poor country, 70% Buddhist.

What is certain is that religion is, has always been a hugely negative, divisive, murderous, hate-driven force.

[Spurtacular]

Nice try

Just as the New Zealand attack, the motive is to scare (terrorize) those not directly involved in the attacks

By stating "Easter worshipers" they attempt to isolate the attack as a one time thing. When in reality Christians are the group most persecuted in the World.

Oh, he's got plenty more "nice trys" coming.

[Phenomanul]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1106532154232766465

Calls out and condemns the perpetrators: "white nationalists"

States specifically who the victims are: "muslims"

Also specifically stating the evil: "Islamophobia / racism"

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1120013694073810944

Now contrast...

No condemnation of the perpetrators: "Muslim extremists / Radical Islamists"

No specificity regarding the victims: "Christians/Christianity"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1106544510555824128

Again specificity regarding the victims: "Muslim community"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

And again, no specificity regarding the victims here: "tourists and Easter worshippers"

YES the word choice is deliberate! Only a fool with disingenuous intent would gloss over the deliberateness of the political narrative by these elitist left demagogues.

Christians are the second most persecuted class world-wide, and the highest religious persecuted class with as many as 4,000 adherents slain every year - specifically targeted for their unwavering belief in Jesus Christ.

Every month, on average:

• 345 Christians are killed for faith-related reasons

• 105 Churches and Christian buildings are burned or attacked

• 219 Christians are detained without trial, arrested, sentenced and imprisoned

But yeah, because the political narrative contends that Christians are a "white" religion then the fact that many Christian martyrs are not white does not jive with their agenda. None of the mainstream media outlets cover ANY of this persecution because it doesn't suit their interests.

As an aside, I would argue that the most persecuted class world-wide are babies in mother's wombs (with over 50 million babies butchered and killed across the globe yearly).

[Psychopav Chump]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1106532154232766465

Calls out and condemns the perpetrators: "white nationalists"

States specifically who the victims are: "muslims"

Also specifically stating the evil: "Islamophobia / racism"

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1120013694073810944

Now contrast...

No condemnation of the perpetrators: "Muslim extremists / Radical Islamists"

No specificity regarding the victims: "Christians/Christianity"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1106544510555824128

Again specificity regarding the victims: "Muslim community"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

And again, no specificity regarding the victims here: "tourists and Easter worshippers"

YES the word choice is deliberate! Only a fool with disingenuous intent would gloss over the deliberateness of the political narrative by these elitist left demagogues.

Christians are the second most persecuted class world-wide, and the highest religious persecuted class with as many as 4,000 adherents slain every year - specifically targeted for their unwavering belief in Jesus Christ.

Every month, on average:

• 345 Christians are killed for faith-related reasons

• 105 Churches and Christian buildings are burned or attacked

• 219 Christians are detained without trial, arrested, sentenced and imprisoned

But yeah, because the political narrative contends that Christians are a "white" religion then the fact that many Christian martyrs are not white does not jive with their agenda. None of the mainstream media outlets cover ANY of this persecution because it doesn't suit their interests.

As an aside, I would argue that the most persecuted class world-wide are babies in mother's wombs (with over 50 million babies butchered and killed across the globe yearly).

:lol Tell us your conspiracy theory, then.

[Winehole23]

Only a fool with disingenuous intent would gloss over the deliberateness of the political narrative by these elitist left demagogues.Is the reading/viewing public too dumb to realize Easter worshippers are Christians?

Are journalists at Fox News who used the term "elitist left demagogues?"

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4tN4VjXoAAUzmc.png

[Spurtacular]

Fox News good now.

Trump good now.

[Phenomanul]

Is the reading/viewing public too dumb to realize Easter worshippers are Christians?

Then why start the tweet with "on this holy weekend for many faiths"? Christians are the only faith that celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. Furthermore, it was Christian Churches that were targeted even though Christians represent less than 10% of Sri Lanka's demographics.

So use the name Christian. Why beat around the bush...?


Are journalists at Fox News who used the term "elitist left demagogues?"

I'm specifically referring to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama... They are leftist agitators, they are a voice of leadership among leftist circles... need further explanation...?

[Phenomanul]

:lol Tell us your conspiracy theory, then.

My theory is that you are willfully a turd. IF you are unable to contrast their talking points on two similar attacks, then I don't know what to tell you.

One attack suits their political narratives. The other doesn't. I'll let you figure out which is which.

[Blake]

Fox News good now.

Trump good now.

Derp slow now.

Derp always slow tho

[Psychopav Chump]

My theory is that you are willfully a turd. IF you are unable to contrast their talking points on two similar attacks, then I don't know what to tell you.

One attack suits their political narratives. The other doesn't. I'll let you figure out which is which.

I'm still waiting for the contrast.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1106532154232766465

Calls out and condemns the perpetrators: "white nationalists"

States specifically who the victims are: "muslims"

Also specifically stating the evil: "Islamophobia / racism"

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1120013694073810944

Now contrast...

No condemnation of the perpetrators: "Muslim extremists / Radical Islamists"

No specificity regarding the victims: "Christians/Christianity"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1106544510555824128

Again specificity regarding the victims: "Muslim community"

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1119964696810070017

And again, no specificity regarding the victims here: "tourists and Easter worshippers"

YES the word choice is deliberate! Only a fool with disingenuous intent would gloss over the deliberateness of the political narrative by these elitist left demagogues.

Christians are the second most persecuted class world-wide, and the highest religious persecuted class with as many as 4,000 adherents slain every year - specifically targeted for their unwavering belief in Jesus Christ.

Every month, on average:

• 345 Christians are killed for faith-related reasons

• 105 Churches and Christian buildings are burned or attacked

• 219 Christians are detained without trial, arrested, sentenced and imprisoned

But yeah, because the political narrative contends that Christians are a "white" religion then the fact that many Christian martyrs are not white does not jive with their agenda. None of the mainstream media outlets cover ANY of this persecution because it doesn't suit their interests.

As an aside, I would argue that the most persecuted class world-wide are babies in mother's wombs (with over 50 million babies butchered and killed across the globe yearly).

Saying "world wide" and "global" when talking about Christian prosecution is ridiculously disingenuous when whining about Hillary and Obama word choice

[Phenomanul]

"some say" it was a small Islamic group in retaliation for Trash's Aussie boy shooting up mosques in NZ

but nothing is sure, yet. Seems like LE ignored warnings. SL is a divided, dysfunctional, poor country, 70% Buddhist.

What is certain is that religion is, has always been a hugely negative, divisive, murderous, hate-driven force.

Historical amnesia much? Let's not forget that atheism ravaged the last century.

Lenin's Bolshevik Revolution - led to the death of 10 million people

Stalin's Soviet Purge - led to the death of over 40 million people

Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward" - led to the death of over 45 million people

North Korea's Communist Purge under both Kim Il-sung and Kim Jung-Il - led to the death of over 4 million people

Ho Chi Minh's Communist Purge - led to the death of over 20 million people

[Blake]

Historical amnesia much? Let's not forget that atheism ravaged the last century.

Lenin's Bolshevik Revolution - led to the death of 10 million people

Stalin's Soviet Purge - led to the death of over 40 million people

Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward" - led to the death of over 45 million people

North Korea's Communist Purge under both Kim Il-sung and Kim Jung-Il - led to the death of over 4 million people

Ho Chi Minh's Communist Purge - led to the death of over 20 million people

Lol nobody was killed in the name of atheism.

[Spurtacular]

Saying "world wide" and "global" when talking about Christian prosecution is ridiculously disingenuous when whining about Hillary and Obama word choice

Persecution, not prosecution, cuck.

And tell us how it's "ridiculously disingenuous".

[Phenomanul]

Saying "world wide" and "global" when talking about Christian prosecution is ridiculously disingenuous.

How so? Christians are targeted throughout Africa, the Middle East, Asia, Polynesia, and now parts of Europe and the Americas. Hence the term World-wide. If you want to characterize the persecution of Christian beliefs and tenets as something else then you do so with willful participation.

Mind you... you completely ignored the point I was trying to make: namely that your leftist leaders/icons can in one breath condemn attacks towards muslims but then fail to condemn them when they are the perpetrators.

Edit: also my term globe --> global was in reference to 50 million annually murdered babies. The comment was made to highlight the fact that the single greatest crime against humanity vastly dwarfs any other conflict (be it war / famine / pestilence / natural disaster / religious conflict / ethnic cleansing / etc...), and to show how numbed down the general populace is concerning this calamity.

[Spurtacular]

Lol nobody was killed in the name of atheism.

Christianity didn't make you a cuck.

[Phenomanul]

Lol nobody was killed in the name of atheism.

Because of your decades-long refusal to accept the fact that lack of belief in a deity empowered secularist humanists to setup their State Religions. State Religions are founded on the belief that people are to depend on the State and not GOD. It's heavily entrenched and rooted in atheistic ideals.

Of course you would never admit it due to your own personal hatred and belligerence towards Christianity.

[Phenomanul]

I'm still waiting for the contrast.

I see my two year hiatus from the Political Forum hasn't improved your deductive logic or critical thinking skills. Here... let me walk you through it.




Mind you... you completely ignored the point I was trying to make: namely that your leftist leaders/icons can in one breath condemn attacks towards muslims, but then fail to condemn them when they are the perpetrators.

You want it spelled out further?

[Spurtacular]

Lol nobody was killed in the name of atheism.

I guess Stalin never came along and killed 20 million of his own people.

:lmao History by cuck blake.

[boutons_deux]

evidence where your hated leftist leaders failed to condemn Muslim attacks?

[Pavlov]

Nice try

Just as the New Zealand attack, the motive is to scare (terrorize) those not directly involved in the attacks

By stating "Easter worshipers" they attempt to isolate the attack as a one time thing. When in reality Christians are the group most persecuted in the World.:lol it says what the victims we're doing.

You're really quite stupid.

[Phenomanul]

evidence where your hated leftist leaders failed to condemn Muslim attacks?

I can not understate the disingenuousness on display here. Your question seriously... smdh

Answer: Because the specificity that the perpetrators for the Sri Lanka attacks were Islamic terrorists was not stated. The omission can only be interpreted as deliberate given that when the situation was reversed only last month neither Hillary or Obama held back on denouncing and classifying the perpetrators.

Funny how a one-month period can provide such a revealing microcosm of the inherent hypocrisy displayed by the left.

[boutons_deux]

"State Religions are founded on the belief that people are to depend on the State and not GOD"

where are these "state religions"?

"thoughts and prayers" to God are doing SHIT for 10Ms of poor Christians in America's precariat (as they subsist Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc from your hated govt).

[boutons_deux]

Answer: Because the specificity that the perpetrators for the Sri Lanka attacks were Islamic terrorists was not stated.

Due to the RELIGIOUS hatreds in Sri Lanka, it was not known initially what was the religion of the attackers.

AFAIK, only one SL official has blamed Muslims. It's still early, and SL govt/LE apparently is an incompetent, divided shit hole.

[Phenomanul]

Due to the RELIGIOUS hatreds in Sri Lanka, it was not known initially what was the religion of the attackers.

AFAIK, only one SL official has blamed Muslims. It's still early, and SL govt/LE apparently is an incompetent, divided shit hole.

You're either willfully ignorant, stupid or both. I guess your searches have only been superficial. Several Islamic terror groups have taken credit for the suicide bombings (the go-to attack tactic by radical muslims).

[DMC]

Historical amnesia much? Let's not forget that atheism ravaged the last century.

Lenin's Bolshevik Revolution - led to the death of 10 million people

Stalin's Soviet Purge - led to the death of over 40 million people

Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward" - led to the death of over 45 million people

North Korea's Communist Purge under both Kim Il-sung and Kim Jung-Il - led to the death of over 4 million people

Ho Chi Minh's Communist Purge - led to the death of over 20 million people

People who consider their leaders to be gods are not atheist.

[FrostKing]

:lol it says what the victims we're doing.

You're really quite stupid.
The Westeners in the hotels were "Easter worshipers" ?

[Pavlov]

The Westeners in the hotels were "Easter worshipers" ?:lol seriously?

That actually goes against your argument since "Easter" clearly implies Christian.

and :rollin at your insistence that tweets from non-reporters be all inclusive to describe every victim.

What about the non-westerners at the hotels?

You're really quite stupid.

[spurraider21]

Then why start the tweet with "on this holy weekend for many faiths"? Christians are the only faith that celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. Furthermore, it was Christian Churches that were targeted even though Christians represent less than 10% of Sri Lanka's demographics.

So use the name Christian. Why beat around the bush...?



I'm specifically referring to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama... They are leftist agitators, they are a voice of leadership among leftist circles... need further explanation...?
oh man, he used their middle names. he's serious

[spurraider21]

Because of your decades-long refusal to accept the fact that lack of belief in a deity empowered secularist humanists to setup their State Religions. State Religions are founded on the belief that people are to depend on the State and not GOD. It's heavily entrenched and rooted in atheistic ideals.

Of course you would never admit it due to your own personal hatred and belligerence towards Christianity.
what's your definition of religion?

[Pavlov]

Apparently saying someone worships during Easter is a grave insult.:(

[FrostKing]

:lol seriously?

That actually goes against your argument since "Easter" clearly implies Christian.

and :rollin at your insistence that tweets from non-reporters be all inclusive to describe every victim.

What about the non-westerners at the hotels?

You're really quite stupid.
:: mental gymnastics

So much "acceptance" you've now done a full circle and are discriminating

[boutons_deux]

You're either willfully ignorant, stupid or both. I guess your searches have only been superficial. Several Islamic terror groups have taken credit for the suicide bombings (the go-to attack tactic by radical muslims).

Assuming Islamic terrorists (which is ALL of your hated Muslims, right?) did it, so what?

So-called God's Own so-called Christian American has destroyed many Muslim countries, supported Muslim dicators when it suited America's Empire, and provoked 10Ms of Muslim refugees from those countries America has invaded, bombed, destabilized.

And what if the SL Muslims terrorists were radicalized in countries attacked by Christian America, or were even from countries attacked by Christian America?

iow, Christian America attacking Muslim countries, then whining about blowback from radicalized Muslim terrorists?

what's YOUR rationale?

[Pavlov]

:: mental gymnastics

So much "acceptance" you've now done a full circle and are discriminatingNo, your stupidity is quite independent of your race or religion.

Why do you feel this need to say you're being persecuted by proxy?

[spurraider21]

this is just going out of one's way to be offended and claim victimhood status

[spurraider21]

:lmao for fucks sake, here was trump's tweet in response

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where's all the outrage that he trivialized the event by calling them "people" instead of "christians." easter worshipper is much more specific than "people."

its just bullshit fake outrage because "liberals hate christians"

[Phenomanul]

:lmao for fucks sake, here was trump's tweet in response

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where's all the outrage that he trivialized the event by calling them "people" instead of "christians." easter worshipper is much more specific than "people."

its just bullshit fake outrage because "liberals hate christians"

IF you haven't figured it out by now or are too willfully stubborn to admit it. IT's not so much the classification of the victims (even if that consideration was extended to muslim victims when they were the target of attacks) it's the deliberate unwillingness to condemn with any specificity whatsoever that radical Islamists were the perpetrators of these heinous attacks. Had Trump done so, every MSM outlet would be denouncing his tweet as divisive, Islamophobic, racist, etc... wash, rinse, repeat...

[Pavlov]

IF you haven't figured it out by now or are too willfully stubborn to admit it. IT's not so much the classification of the victims (even if that consideration was extended to muslim victims when they were the target of attacks) it's the deliberate unwillingness to condemn with any specificity whatsoever that radical Islamists were the perpetrators of these heinous attacks. Had Trump done so, every MSM outlet would be denouncing his tweet as divisive, Islamophobic, racist, etc... wash, rinse, repeat...:lol Trump didn't know who did it then.

No one did.

You're furious that people don't immediately condemn a group when they don't even know if that group is responsible.

[Phenomanul]

Apparently saying someone worships during Easter is a grave insult.:(

No it isn't. Nice strawman though.

[Pavlov]

No it isn't. Nice strawman though.So what's wrong with calling Easter worshipers Easter worshipers in tweets and headlines?

I've already proved it was used before the attacks.

Why are you outraged?

[spurraider21]

IF you haven't figured it out by now or are too willfully stubborn to admit it. IT's not so much the classification of the victims (even if that consideration was extended to muslim victims when they were the target of attacks) it's the deliberate unwillingness to condemn with any specificity whatsoever that radical Islamists were the perpetrators of these heinous attacks. Had Trump done so, every MSM outlet would be denouncing his tweet as divisive, Islamophobic, racist, etc... wash, rinse, repeat...
its just unnecessary, manufactured outrage to stake a claim for victimhood status.

"the christian way of life is being attacked by the left" etc...

its really not a big deal that they were referred to as easter worshippers. its such a trivial thing to be upset over.

[Phenomanul]

:lol Trump didn't know who did it then.

No one did.

You're furious that people don't immediately condemn a group when they don't even know if that group is responsible.

Multiple attacks coordinated to go off at the same exact time spread out over the island. Multiple witness testimony of the attackers shouting "allahu ackbar" at the top of their lungs prior to detonation... Pompeo said he briefed POTUS after calling the Sri Lankan prime minister. A prime minister who had already been warned that these attacks were imminent. YEAH they knew, of course they knew!!! I know you love playing coy when it suits you but this circular reasoning on your part is pathetically low.

[FrostKing]

https://d1dxvryen9goi5.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/sri-lanka-21.jpg

Looks like a typical NFL draft pick

[Pavlov]

Multiple attacks coordinated to go off at the same exact time spread out over the island. Multiple witness testimony of the attackers shouting "allahu ackbar" at the top of their lungs prior to detonation... Pompeo said he briefed POTUS after calling the Sri Lankan prime minister. A prime minister who had already been warned that these attacks were imminent. YEAH they knew, of course they knew!!! I know you love playing coy when it suits you but this circular reasoning on your part is pathetically low.So you're outraged that people waited for officials to say who it was?

This is why you feel persecuted?

:rollin you're really a weak person

[spurraider21]

wait so is the outrage that they failed to identify the attackers sooner? i thought we were mad about Easter Worshippers

[Phenomanul]

So what's wrong with calling Easter worshipers Easter worshipers in tweets and headlines?

I've already proved it was used before the attacks.

Why are you outraged?



its just unnecessary, manufactured outrage to stake a claim for victimhood status.

"the christian way of life is being attacked by the left" etc...

its really not a big deal that they were referred to as easter worshippers. its such a trivial thing to be upset over.

The reluctance to admit that CHRISTIANS are being persecuted is not a manufactured outrage. The same week that the New Zealand Mosque at Christchurch was attacked over 60 Christians were slaughtered in Nigeria (with a total of either 120 or 280 going back to February [conflicting reports]). Why tweet on one religious based attack and completely ignore the others..? Why devote several media segments to the ridiculousness of somehow linking of the violence in New Zealand to Trump...? All whilst ignoring the muslim-sanctioned democide of Christians living in several northwest Nigerian villages. The outrage is based on a pattern of willful, deliberate omissions that would otherwise legitimize the notion that the persecution of Christianity is a very real thing.

[Pavlov]

wait so is the outrage that they failed to identify the attackers sooner? i thought we were mad about Easter WorshippersGood point.

They need to say which one makes them feel more victimized.

[Pavlov]

The reluctance to admit that CHRISTIANS are being persecuted is not a manufactured outrage. The same week that the New Zealand Mosque at Christchurch was attacked over 60 Christians were slaughtered in Nigeria (with a total of either 120 or 280 going back to February [conflicting reports]). Why tweet on one religious based attack and completely ignore the others..? Why devote several media segments to the ridiculousness of somehow linking of the violence in New Zealand to Trump...? All whilst ignoring the muslim-sanctioned democide of Christians living in several northwest Nigerian villages. The outrage is based on a pattern of willful, deliberate omissions that would otherwise legitimize the notion that the persecution of Christianity is a very real thing.Soooooo you're mad at Trump for hating Christians?

OK.

[Phenomanul]

wait so is the outrage that they failed to identify the attackers sooner? i thought we were mad about Easter Worshippers

No the use of that phrase would've been harmless if not for the fact that at least 6 top democrats deliberately choose to use said phrase instead of the more appropriate adjective: Christians.

THAT is what made it stand out.

But keep playing coy.

IN and of itself the phrase is HARMLESS.

[Phenomanul]

Soooooo you're mad at Trump for hating Christians?

OK.

No... His administration is combating Religious persecution world-wide. He for once showed some restraint in the wording of this particular tweet. After recanting an erroneous "millions dead" tweet.

[Pavlov]

I'll let you in on a little secret about sub-Saharan Africa.

No one gives a shit about sub-Saharan Africa.

If they filmed Lord of the Rings there then maybe. It was only the opening of Captain America: Civil War tho.

[Pavlov]

No... His administration is combating Religious persecution world-wide. He for once showed some restraint in the wording of this particular tweet. After recanting an erroneous "millions dead" tweet.So what are you mad at exactly?

Logical, normal restraint?

:lol

[boutons_deux]

No one gives a shit about sub-Saharan Africa.



corporate America gives a shit, and AFRICOM is there to protect the transport and export of critical minerals

[Pavlov]

corporate America gives a shit, and AFRICOM is there to protect the transport and export of critical mineralsYeah, I see tweets every day about that....

[Blake]

Persecution, not prosecution, cuck.

And tell us how it's "ridiculously disingenuous".

Lol "us".

You're too stupid to comprehend it. I'll wait for someone else besides you and your sock puppet krew to ask.

[Blake]

How so?

Because here in America, Christians do the persecuting.

Stop being disingenuous about it.

[FrostKing]

Because here in America, Christians do the persecuting.

Stop being disingenuous about it.
But also the most giving (to Muslims)

[Blake]

I guess Stalin never came along and killed 20 million of his own people.

:lmao History by cuck blake.

You're so stupid.

[Blake]

But also the most giving (to Muslims)

Hey as long as they give back, it's ok.

[MultiTroll]

Sounds like some major failure to act by higher ups tipped off.
Phucking shame.

[Phenomanul]

So what are you mad at exactly?

Logical, normal restraint?

:lol

The apparent allergic repulsion to calling out radical muslims (even for those people that tweeted over 12 hours after the attack when the press had ALREADY officially called out Abu Ubaida Assailani). And the equally deliberate aversion to identifying Christians as the targets.

Oddly enough, Robert O'Rourke's tweet was the only one among democrat elitists that properly identified Christians as the group that was targeted by the attacks. What's crazy is that some retweets of his tweet called him out for doing so ("hey Beto, not all of the people at the hotels were Christian. Your tweet is incorrect!").

[spurraider21]

The reluctance to admit that CHRISTIANS are being persecuted is not a manufactured outrage. The same week that the New Zealand Mosque at Christchurch was attacked over 60 Christians were slaughtered in Nigeria (with a total of either 120 or 280 going back to February [conflicting reports]). Why tweet on one religious based attack and completely ignore the others..? Why devote several media segments to the ridiculousness of somehow linking of the violence in New Zealand to Trump...? All whilst ignoring the muslim-sanctioned democide of Christians living in several northwest Nigerian villages. The outrage is based on a pattern of willful, deliberate omissions that would otherwise legitimize the notion that the persecution of Christianity is a very real thing.
i'm referring to persecution in the US. i have no doubt that a lot of different people are being persecuted around the globe. christians/easter worshippers included

[Blake]

No... His administration is combating Religious persecution world-wide.

Lol why'd you purposely say "religious" here instead of "Christian"?

Smh so disingenuous

[spurraider21]

No the use of that phrase would've been harmless if not for the fact that at least 6 top democrats deliberately choose to use said phrase instead of the more appropriate adjective: Christians.

THAT is what made it stand out.

But keep playing coy.

IN and of itself the phrase is HARMLESS.
so saying easter worshippers isn't inherently bad unless multiple democrats you dont like say it. got it.

[Pavlov]

The apparent allergic repulsion to calling out radical muslims (even for those people that tweeted over 12 hours after the attack when the press had ALREADY officially called out Abu Ubaida Assailani). And the equally deliberate aversion to identifying Christians as the targets.

Oddly enough, Robert O'Rourke's tweet was the only one among democrat elitists that properly identified Christians as the group that was targeted by the attacks. What's crazy is that some retweets of his tweet called him out for doing so ("hey Beto, not all of the people at the hotels were Christian. Your tweet is incorrect!").:lmao monitoring the tweets of non reporters for outrage.

Do you realize how stupid this is, snowflake?

[Spurtacular]

You're so stupid.

Cuckback.

[Spurtacular]

Lol "us".

You're too stupid to comprehend it. I'll wait for someone else besides you and your sock puppet krew to ask.

They're actually is an us.

:lol Cuck too stupid to know how to apply schtick.

[Blake]

They're actually is an us.

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[Phenomanul]

so saying easter worshippers isn't inherently bad unless multiple democrats you dont like say it. got it.

No... Again I repeat due to your denseness: THE PHRASE in and of itself is HARMLESS.

The grander issue is that you are unwilling to see how such a response looks politically coordinated. Perhaps you don't want to see it but at least be honest about it instead of deflecting with such torturous excuses and tangential nothings. Such a random phrase (whether or not someone may have used it in the past) suddenly becomes THE phrase. Seriously? You can't see the unlikelihood of such a phrase suddenly and 'simultaneously' springing up among several top democrats as a statistical anomaly?


:lmao monitoring the tweets of non reporters for outrage.

Do you realize how stupid this is, snowflake?

No. What I find stupid is your pathetic attempt to prove that the language that was used by Obama, Hillary, and others was not deliberate, not politically motivated, and not coordinated (amongst other democrats running in their elitist circles). Statistical analysis alone would suggest that either the word phrase was deliberately chosen and that other leftist representatives/elected officials simply followed suit OR that they all participated in the coordination of that narrative choice. Don't be so naïve.

[spurraider21]

No... Again I repeat due to your denseness: THE PHRASE in and of itself is HARMLESS.


so saying easter worshippers isn't inherently bad

yup seems like we're on the same page


The grander issue is that you are unwilling to see how such a response looks politically coordinated. Perhaps you don't want to see it but at least be honest about it instead of deflecting with such torturous excuses and tangential nothings. Such a random phrase (whether or not someone may have used it in the past) suddenly becomes THE phrase. Seriously? You can't see the unlikelihood of such a phrase suddenly and 'simultaneously' springing up among several top democrats as a statistical anomaly?


unless multiple democrats you dont like say it. got it.

so lol thats exactly what i said. the phrase isnt bad. its bad because mean democrats used it.

[Phenomanul]

Lol why'd you purposely say "religious" here instead of "Christian"?

Smh so disingenuous

Because Pompeo's State Department is protecting the right to religious expression as part of their initiative platform. This includes protecting Tibetan monks against Chinese state-run oppression (which was part of trade talks with PRC state officials). This included providing North Koreans freedom of religious choice (which they currently don't have). This includes the establishment of legislative clauses that protect any expression of faith for countries that receive U.S. Foreign Aid. The initiative isn't exclusive to Christianity nor does it exclusively promote that faith. You really ought to do your homework before making yourself look like a dunce.

[Phenomanul]

yup seems like we're on the same page

so lol thats exactly what i said. the phrase isnt bad. its bad because mean democrats used it.

replace "bad" with "contrived coordinated effort" and then we're getting somewhere.

[spurraider21]

replace "bad" with "contrived coordinated effort" and then we're getting somewhere.
either way. you dont mind people using "Easter Worshippers" unless those people are multiple democrats you don't like.

thats why its manufactured outrage

[Blake]

Because Pompeo's State Department is protecting the right to religious expression as part of their initiative platform. This includes protecting Tibetan monks against Chinese state-run oppression (which was part of trade talks with PRC state officials). This included providing North Koreans freedom of religious choice (which they currently don't have). This includes the establishment of legislative clauses that protect any expression of faith for countries that receive U.S. Foreign Aid. The initiative isn't exclusive to Christianity nor does it exclusively promote that faith. You really ought to do your homework before making yourself look like a dunce.

Unless Muslim.

Look at the thread you're in. Stop being disingenuous about "religious expression".

[Blake]

replace "bad" with "contrived coordinated effort" and then we're getting somewhere.

What's the end purpose of this "coordinated effort"

[Phenomanul]

either way. you dont mind people using "Easter Worshippers" unless those people are multiple democrats you don't like.

thats why its manufactured outrage

No it's because of the unwillingness of people like yourself to see the very obvious political posturing taking place here, and how your party leaders have unanimously chosen to defend the wrong team by failing to denounce them.

Democrats understand that denouncing the evils of radical Islam creates political clout for them. It justifies a tougher policy stance on immigration. It justifies more rigorous vetting practices for ensuring our national security. These are policies that the Democrats don't want to endorse.

So after an event where the radical Islamic evil is obvious to even a 5 year old, the semantics and coordinated word choice being used by your party icons is cringe worthy. It softens the blow so that the perpetrators aren't being outright condemned (or more generally - radical Islamic ideology) and so that the targets of their persecution (Christians) aren't granted the protections that such persistent persecution would warrant. It's a strategy that deliberately avoids waking up our own nation's Christian base because they know that such knowledge would end up rallying further support for the aforementioned policies that they vehemently oppose. Democrats have already heavily tipped their hat towards promoting the idea that muslims in this country are another victim class. "Heavens forbid" that Democrats simultaneously acknowledge that Christians world-wide are being persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ, and for their belief in Biblical principles.

[Phenomanul]

What's the end purpose of this "coordinated effort"

To ensure that people like yourself continue in their ignorance.

[Phenomanul]

Unless Muslim.

Look at the thread you're in. Stop being disingenuous about "religious expression".

Moving goal posts? You asserted that our policy was to promote Christianity. I responded that your understanding of our State policy was wrong. So now you've shifted the emphasis of your initial argument.

Typical intellectual dishonesty on your part.

BTW even your other argument is wrong. The U.S. allows the free expression of Islamic worship on it's soil. Our Constitution is not so keen, however, on allowing Sharia Law to take precedence over it - and so it must place limits on certain aspects of their societal laws. There is a difference between the two notions but you're too obstinate to acknowledge what that difference is.

[spurraider21]

No it's because of the unwillingness of people like yourself to see the very obvious political posturing taking place here, and how your party leaders have unanimously chosen to defend the wrong team by failing to denounce them.

Democrats understand that denouncing the evils of radical Islam creates political clout for them. It justifies a tougher policy stance on immigration. It justifies more rigorous vetting practices for ensuring our national security. These are policies that the Democrats don't want to endorse.

So after an event where the radical Islamic evil is obvious to even a 5 year old, the semantics and coordinated word choice being used by your party icons is cringe worthy. It softens the blow so that the perpetrators aren't being outright condemned (or more generally - radical Islamic ideology) and so that the targets of their persecution (Christians) aren't granted the protections that such persistent persecution would warrant. It's a strategy that deliberately avoids waking up our own nation's Christian base because they know that such knowledge would end up rallying further support for the aforementioned policies that they vehemently oppose. Democrats have already heavily tipped their hat towards promoting the idea that muslims in this country are another victim class. "Heavens forbid" that Democrats simultaneously acknowledge that Christians world-wide are being persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ, and for their belief in Biblical principles.
you're changing the subject from the use of "Easter Worshippers" to the denunciation of radical islam

[Spurtacular]

Blake sharing his gay bedroom wall posters with the joint. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Seriously? You can't see the unlikelihood of such a phrase suddenly and 'simultaneously' springing up among several top democrats as a statistical anomaly?


Short of a recorded conference call indicating otherwise, that's exactly what they're gonna "believe". And even then, if one existed they'd claim it was all editing. They're sperm shields, bruh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

WTF? ISIS took responsibility? I thought they were dead? Trump said so.

[Spurtacular]

WTF? ISIS took responsibility? I thought they were dead? Trump said so.

Media always validates any obscure ISIS claim. They need a boogeyman.

[Blake]

To ensure that people like yourself continue in their ignorance.

Disingenuous answer.

[Blake]

Moving goal posts? You asserted that our policy was to promote Christianity. I responded that your understanding of our State policy was wrong. So now you've shifted the emphasis of your initial argument.

Typical intellectual dishonesty on your part.

BTW even your other argument is wrong. The U.S. allows the free expression of Islamic worship on it's soil. Our Constitution is not so keen, however, on allowing Sharia Law to take precedence over it - and so it must place limits on certain aspects of their societal laws. There is a difference between the two notions but you're too obstinate to acknowledge what that difference is.

No, you're very purposefully excluding Muslim from "religious expression".

It's as disingenuously simple as that.

[Blake]

No it's because of the unwillingness of people like yourself to see the very obvious political posturing taking place here, and how your party leaders have unanimously chosen to defend the wrong team by failing to denounce them.

Democrats understand that denouncing the evils of radical Islam creates political clout for them. It justifies a tougher policy stance on immigration. It justifies more rigorous vetting practices for ensuring our national security. These are policies that the Democrats don't want to endorse.

So after an event where the radical Islamic evil is obvious to even a 5 year old, the semantics and coordinated word choice being used by your party icons is cringe worthy. It softens the blow so that the perpetrators aren't being outright condemned (or more generally - radical Islamic ideology) and so that the targets of their persecution (Christians) aren't granted the protections that such persistent persecution would warrant. It's a strategy that deliberately avoids waking up our own nation's Christian base because they know that such knowledge would end up rallying further support for the aforementioned policies that they vehemently oppose. Democrats have already heavily tipped their hat towards promoting the idea that muslims in this country are another victim class. "Heavens forbid" that Democrats simultaneously acknowledge that Christians world-wide are being persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ, and for their belief in Biblical principles.

Lol "wrong team".

What an utter piece of shit post from top to bottom.

[Phenomanul]

No, you're very purposefully excluding Muslim from "religious expression".

It's as disingenuously simple as that.

Lol you are stupid if you think for a second that your deflections will ever constitute an argument that is properly constructed.

I don’t have to lobby for the expression of Islamic faith. I don’t have to like it. I don’t even have to legitimize any of their doctrinal ideology. But Muslims can practice their religion here in the USA. They are afforded the same Constitutional freedoms that all other Citizens are granted.

The caveat being that application of certain aspects of Sharia Law are unconstitutional and therefore in direct conflict with application of Federal jurisprudence (and most State, County and Municipal Law). For example, under the Constitution people are guaranteed due process be it for civil or criminal court (the only exceptions being cases that are tried under Military Tribunals). They have a right to face their accuser. They have a right to defend themselves. They have a right to an attorney. Strict adherence to Sharia Law, however, deprives people of these basic rights and therefore the U.S. Constitution rightfully takes precedence.

The point I was making was that I need not talk about Islam to point out that your assertion that the U.S. State Department’s foreign policy was to lobby for the freedom of religious expression ONLY for Christians. After I pointed out your error and called you out for your latent ignorance on the matter you shifted the premise of your argument with a deflection tactic.

In the 14 years I’ve been on this site you’ve never once admitted to a mistake. So I don’t expect the trend to change.

[Spurtacular]

Lol you are stupid if you think for a second that your deflections will ever constitute an argument that is properly constructed.


The cuck isn't exactly packing. And you just beat him to his best insult.

[Blake]

Lol you are stupid if you think for a second that your deflections will ever constitute an argument that is properly constructed.

I don’t have to lobby for the expression of Islamic faith. I don’t have to like it. I don’t even have to legitimize any of their doctrinal ideology. But Muslims can practice their religion here in the USA. They are afforded the same Constitutional freedoms that all other Citizens are granted.

The caveat being that application of certain aspects of Sharia Law are unconstitutional and therefore in direct conflict with application of Federal jurisprudence (and most State, County and Municipal Law). For example, under the Constitution people are guaranteed due process be it for civil or criminal court (the only exceptions being cases that are tried under Military Tribunals). They have a right to face their accuser. They have a right to defend themselves. They have a right to an attorney. Strict adherence to Sharia Law, however, deprives people of these basic rights and therefore the U.S. Constitution rightfully takes precedence.

The point I was making was that I need not talk about Islam to point out that your assertion that the U.S. State Department’s foreign policy was to lobby for the freedom of religious expression ONLY for Christians. After I pointed out your error and called you out for your latent ignorance on the matter you shifted the premise of your argument with a deflection tactic.

In the 14 years I’ve been on this site you’ve never once admitted to a mistake. So I don’t expect the trend to change.

I'm not responding to all of your long winded garbage.

The only assertion I was making here is that you think protecting religious freedom should not apply to Muslims. That you're a hypocritical bigot.

But now you're backpedaling off of that. Sort of.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58664002_2208423349217328_2572282228839022592_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=43639b4efa3580b8732c834b0f040a78&oe=5D3C0C6D

[Phenomanul]

I'm not responding to all of your long winded garbage.

The only assertion I was making here is that you think protecting religious freedom should not apply to Muslims. That you're a hypocritical bigot.

But now you're backpedaling off of that. Sort of.

So now you’re resorting to lying? Got it. I didn’t make that argument; you simply made it up.

Some things around here never change.

[Henrey]

I didn't hear any unmistakable words in that video. How was that individual recording it and not getting assaulted herself?

[ElNono]

Where’s the outrage about the historical persecution of Muslim Uighurs by the Chinese? (they persecute Christians too, btw)

This idea that the rest of the world affords the same religious or even political protections that the US affords it’s citizens is extremely naive, and really ignorant (especially if we’re talking historically).

What’s even worse is that specifically a Christian would bring up the historical implications of society in general moving to secularism as a problem, despite the well documented abuses of authority and power when the Church *was* in control.

You know why the world moved to secularism? Because we learned our lesson. Going all the way back to The Crusades, to burning ‘witches’, etc. The same people that bitch now about the lack of rights for women on the caliphate, seem to forget that the roles for women in their own religion nowadays (good luck seeing a female Pope until Jesus enlightens them again).

The world simply understood that religion is a personal choice. As such, there’s no role in government for it, other than to try to protect their citizens to practice it (and YMMV on that depending on the country).

At the end of the day, a cursory look at the world today and historically shows that theocracies are much, much worse than secular democracies. It’s not even close.

[Blake]

So now you’re resorting to lying? Got it. I didn’t make that argument; you simply made it up.

Some things around here never change.

I didn't say you said it as an argument. I'm saying it's very clearly implied that the only religious freedom you want to protect is Christianity.

Lol "wrong team".

[boutons_deux]

The Poisonous Politics Behind the Right’s ‘Easter Worshippers’ Smear Campaign

Religious Right leaders and right-wing media operations moved quickly to exploit the devastating Easter Sunday bombings in Sri Lanka

to advance a political message they hope will mobilize a high turnout among conservative white evangelical voters in 2020.

It’s the same dishonest claim that Religious Right leaders hammered hard in 2016 in their efforts to defeat Hillary Clinton and elect Donald Trump:

Democrats are enemies of faith, religious freedom and Christianity itself.

Obama and Clinton and some other Democrats described the church-goers as “Easter worshippers” in their tweets,

but did not use the word “Christians.”

right-wing activists from alleging that

the Democrats’ wording is evidence of anti-Christian bigotry and

a refusal to recognize that the bombings targeted Christians.

the right-wing outrage was highly selective and purely partisan.

Tweets of sympathy from

President Donald Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1119923840161857536),
House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy (https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1120130145845694467),
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, (https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1119999286337519616) and
U.S. Ambassador for International Religious Freedom Sam Brownback (https://twitter.com/IRF_Ambassador/status/1119978702367068162)—a Religious Right favorite—

also did not include the word “Christian.” :lol

(http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-poisonous-politics-behind-the-rights-easter-worshippers-smear-campaign/)http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-poisonous-politics-behind-the-rights-easter-worshippers-smear-campaign/

And so-called Christians, who fellate Trash as godly, as sent by their God, suck down the Christian propaganda and lies as Bible truth

Obviously, our boy Phenom is an easy mark for propaganda.

[spurraider21]

Where’s the outrage about the historical persecution of Muslim Uighurs by the Chinese? (they persecute Christians too, btw)

This idea that the rest of the world affords the same religious or even political protections that the US affords it’s citizens is extremely naive, and really ignorant (especially if we’re talking historically).

What’s even worse is that specifically a Christian would bring up the historical implications of society in general moving to secularism as a problem, despite the well documented abuses of authority and power when the Church *was* in control.

You know why the world moved to secularism? Because we learned our lesson. Going all the way back to The Crusades, to burning ‘witches’, etc. The same people that bitch now about the lack of rights for women on the caliphate, seem to forget that the roles for women in their own religion nowadays (good luck seeing a female Pope until Jesus enlightens them again).

The world simply understood that religion is a personal choice. As such, there’s no role in government for it, other than to try to protect their citizens to practice it (and YMMV on that depending on the country).

At the end of the day, a cursory look at the world today and historically shows that theocracies are much, much worse than secular democracies. It’s not even close.
BuT aMeRiCa WaS fOuNdEd On ChRiStIaNiTy

[Winehole23]

BuT aMeRiCa WaS fOuNdEd On ChRiStIaNiTytrue.

but it is also trivially true to point out that it was also founded on the general lack of conventional piety, or indeed of any prevalent, generally shared religion.

[Pavlov]

:lmao this stupid conspiracy theory

[Spurtacular]

:lmao this stupid conspiracy theory

This schtick losing all traction.

:lmao Compulsive pscyopav with no end game.

[Pavlov]

This schtick losing all traction.I'm laughing at your stupid conspiracy theory.


:lmao Compulsive pscyopav with no end game.What's your end game, derp?

[ElNono]

BuT aMeRiCa WaS fOuNdEd On ChRiStIaNiTy

I know you speak in jest, but America was also founded on slavery, feminine disenfranchisement and a lot of other customs of the day. The world has evolved dramatically since.

[Avant]

Tomorrow the NFL Draft, right now this very second the NBA playoffs. Then we have all that music and things to occupy our minds.

What do they do over there?

No USC vs UCLA, Texas vs Oklahoma, Michigan vs Ohio State, no anything to get into it.

Now add the Quran which is beyond retarded and stupid. Nothing there but PUNISH, KILL, FIRE, PUNISH, KILL, FIRE.

No wonder we see so much stupid bullshit coming out of Islam/Middle East.

[Pavlov]

Tomorrow the NFL Draft, right now this very second the NBA playoffs. Then we have all that music and things to occupy our minds.

What do they do over there?

No USC vs UCLA, Texas vs Oklahoma, Michigan vs Ohio State, no anything to get into it.

Now add the Quran which is beyond retarded and stupid. Nothing there but PUNISH, KILL, FIRE, PUNISH, KILL, FIRE.

No wonder we see so much stupid bullshit coming out of Islam/Middle East.What a stupid post.

[boutons_deux]

true.



false. FFs knew how the corrupt nexus between Church and Royalty had oppressed Europe for 1000 years.

USA was founded as an non-democratic, secular oligarchy

[Avant]

What a stupid post.

Not at all guy. Just what do those people have going on over there, well? We have TONS of things to do, think about, what do they really have over there to occupy their minds, well?

[FrostKing]

false. FFs knew how the corrupt nexus between Church and Royalty had oppressed Europe for 1000 years.

USA was founded as an non-democratic, secular oligarchy
They freed us from the Mosque and Ottoman Royalty

[boutons_deux]

I know you speak in jest, but America was also founded on slavery, feminine disenfranchisement and a lot of other customs of the day. The world has evolved dramatically since.

The sacred Constitution has been abused and rigged by oligarchy, so that a rigged economy, a captured govt, and the Constitution are untouchable.

[Trainwreck2100]

I know you speak in jest, but America was also founded on slavery, feminine disenfranchisement and a lot of other customs of the day. The world has evolved dramatically since.
'what the hell is wrong with you ElNono, you came here from another country and this is what you think? How could you for get the genocide?

[Phenomanul]

Lol "wrong team".

Democratic leadership has strengthened their ties to groups like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (both organizations sponsor terror groups abroad, and dare I say on our home soil). It is an unholy alliance.

So YES, you nitwitted stubborn twat. Siding with Sharia supremacists by failing to condemn the actions of radical Islam (here or abroad) is demonstrably a sign that your precious party has aligned itself with the "wrong team". Adherents of Radical Islam (numbering in the tens of millions worldwide) have declared that this nation needs to be destroyed. The United States of America is their sworn enemy. But many of you here are unwilling to accept it, and twiddle your thumbs with a naïve foolishness that defies comprehension.

While the cognitive dissonance that forces you all to reconcile their tyrannical ideologies against the backdrop of our GOD-given freedoms is rather comical to watch - such ignorance is also dangerous. It shows the absurdity of what you have allowed yourselves to defend - when in reality their ideology is indefensible. Anyone here supporting CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood, or supporting the 'legality' of Sharia Law taking any root on U.S. soil (over the jurisprudence of the U.S. Constitution) has utterly lost their mind.

Unfortunately, it's clear to me that you all simply don't care about the perils of Radical Islam. Your leaders can't even condemn them. In fact your leaders allowed them unfettered access to our intelligence files during the previous administration. Your leaders even negotiated the transfer of a portion of our uranium reserves to the Iranian Regime (ensuring Russia would also get their own uranium bounty via Iran - Yay Clinton! :rolleyes). I still remember stiff discussion with some of you here who vehemently denied that the Iranian Regime had zero-ties to Radical Islam. Such a bewildering blindness on you all's part is either ignorant or deliberate. But Yes, Democrats have negotiated directly with Radical Islamic groups making concessions that are completely stupefying.

You can yell from the top of your lungs, you can hate me all you want, you can choose to turn the other way - but denying that your leaders have strengthened their ties to such groups is nothing more than denial - a proverbial ostrich burying its head in the ground. At this point you're only lying to yourselves for what exactly? To denounce Christianity. To drum the party line? What is the unifying arc here? We already know you all personally vilify Christians. boutons is deranged and obsessed with spouting the evils of Christians - and something in his mind fails to fill an immense void unless he comments on such matters weekly. Blake, Chump, and El Nono are self-ascribed athiests who also vilify anything pertaining to Jesus Christ or Christianity.

Just keep lying to yourselves.

[Pavlov]

Democratic leadership has strengthened their ties to groups like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (both organizations sponsor terror groups abroad, and dare I say on our home soil). It is an unholy alliance.

So YES, you nitwitted stubborn twat. Siding with Sharia supremacists by failing to condemn the actions of radical Islam (here or abroad) is demonstrably a sign that your precious party has aligned itself with the "wrong team". Adherents of Radical Islam (numbering in the tens of millions worldwide) have declared that this nation needs to be destroyed. The United States of America is their sworn enemy. But many of you here are unwilling to accept it, and twiddle your thumbs with a naïve foolishness that defies comprehension.

While the cognitive dissonance that forces you all to reconcile their tyrannical ideologies against the backdrop of our GOD-given freedoms is rather comical to watch - such ignorance is also dangerous. It shows the absurdity of what you have allowed yourselves to defend - when in reality their ideology is indefensible. Anyone here supporting CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood, or supporting the 'legality' of Sharia Law taking any root on U.S. soil (over the jurisprudence of the U.S. Constitution) has utterly lost their mind.

Unfortunately, it's clear to me that you all simply don't care about the perils of Radical Islam. Your leaders can't even condemn them. In fact your leaders allowed them unfettered access to our intelligence files during the previous administration. Your leaders even negotiated the transfer of a portion of our uranium reserves to the Iranian Regime (ensuring Russia would also get their own uranium bounty via Iran - Yay Clinton! :rolleyes). I still remember stiff discussion with some of you here who vehemently denied that the Iranian Regime had zero-ties to Radical Islam. Such a bewildering blindness on you all's part is either ignorant or deliberate. But Yes, Democrats have negotiated directly with Radical Islamic groups making concessions that are completely stupefying.

You can yell from the top of your lungs, you can hate me all you want, you can choose to turn the other way - but denying that your leaders have strengthened their ties to such groups is nothing more than denial - a proverbial ostrich burying its head in the ground. At this point you're only lying to yourselves for what exactly? To denounce Christianity. To drum the party line? What is the unifying arc here? We already know you all personally vilify Christians. boutons is deranged and obsessed with spouting the evils of Christians - and something in his mind fails to fill an immense void unless he comments on such matters weekly. Blake, Chump, and El Nono are self-ascribed athiests who also vilify anything pertaining to Jesus Christ or Christianity.

Just keep lying to yourselves.I never said I was an atheist.

Why do you lie?

Also, explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.

[boutons_deux]

Christian (both Protestant and Catholic) Sharia, already in practice widely legislatively and judicially, will kill lots of women and babies (spiked in TX after free clinics closed), and cause lots of unwanted pregnancies.

Muslim Sharia? :lol

[Chucho]

Christian (both Protestant and Catholic) Sharia, already in practice widely legislatively and judicially, will kill lots of women and babies (spiked in TX after free clinics closed), and cause lots of unwanted pregnancies.

Muslim Sharia? :lol


God damn, you're a retarded bigot.

[Phenomanul]

I never said I was an atheist.

Why do you lie?

Also, explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.

Yes you did several years ago. Your shift to make my assertion the matter of your reproach is a subtle attempt to subvert the claim itself.

But ok, get it out in the open. Here and now. Do you believe in GOD or gods? And how does your belief in a deity/deities affect your everyday life?

[Pavlov]

Yes you did several years ago. Your shift to make my assertion the matter of your reproach is a subtle attempt to subvert the claim itself.

But ok, get it out in the open. Here and now. Do you believe in GOD or gods? And how does your belief in a deity/deities affect your everyday life?Agnostic. Organized religions of all kinds get stupid and repressive one way or another.

https://i.gifer.com/Oas9.gif

Now explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.

[Phenomanul]

2015 Iran Deal.

[Pavlov]

2015 Iran Deal.No, you have to EXPLAIN this whole transfer of uranium thing RE: Iran and Russia.

You don't get away with just saying "det deal."

I look forward to some rehashed Federalist article or something similar.

[Phenomanul]

No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna July of 2015. This was the same document that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.

Edit: July not September (checked my booking logs)

[Pavlov]

No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna September of 2015. This was the same document that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.
:lol saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

Explain the transfer.

[spurraider21]

:lol saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

Explain the transfer.
:lol "I can see Russia from my house"

[Phenomanul]

:lol saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

Explain the transfer.

Does your stubbornness know no end?

The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.

[spurraider21]

Does your stubbornness know no end?

The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.
you're right. here's the full text

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2165388-iran-deal-text.html

where's the part where the US provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash? page and line numbers

[Pavlov]

The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.:lol "provided"

The US unfroze Iranian assets.

Just lying about that invalidates anything you might ever say about anything. But sure, I'll bite on the rest -- if Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?


Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).So Russia, which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

OK.

Still trying to see the evil part.

[boutons_deux]

It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank.

Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas.

Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/ (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/)

[boutons_deux]

Iran's uranium stockpile was reduced by 98% to 300kg (660lbs),

a figure that must not be exceeded until 2031.

It must also keep the stockpile's level of enrichment at 3.67%.

By January 2016, Iran had drastically reduced the number of centrifuges installed at Natanz and Fordo,

and shipped tonnes of low-enriched uranium to Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655

[Phenomanul]

:lol "provided"

The US unfroze Iranian assets.

Just lying about that invalidates anything you might ever say about anything. But sure, I'll bite on the rest -- if Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

So Russia, which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

OK.

Still trying to see the evil part.

How disingenuous can the entire MSM machine and your own party leaders be..? How stupid do they think Americans as a whole are?

Only several weeks ago we were all being led to believe that Putin's Russia is uber dangerous and cannot be trusted, because they meddled in our Election, because they colluded with Trump, etc... They are a wholly EVIL state. That Mueller's Report would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how these two evil men orchestrated theft of power.

YET in 2015 Biden, Obama and Hillary drafted a deal that physically transferred Iran's uranium to Putin's Russia. "No. no. Russia wasn't evil" they said - that the past was in the past. And they were actually praised for building bridges with Russia. Praised for being diplomatic and being everything that 'war mongering Regan' wasn't.

THEN the 2016 Election happened and the MSM media now wanted everyone to think that Russia was 'evil'. Everyone forgot that the outgoing administration had given Russia uranium. pffft...

The convenience of when to call Russia evil and when not to is pretty downright dishonest on your part. I don't care if the Russians have more warheads than we do. Giving them the fuel to build more is irresponsible and treasonous. Of course none of you shills in here will admit it.

Like seriously you couldn't make this stuff up even if you wanted to... but left-leaning Americans are so manipulated by the media that they don't even know it.

[Pavlov]

How disingenuous can the entire MSM machine and your own party leaders be..? How stupid do they think Americans as a whole are?

Only several weeks ago we were all being led to believe that Putin's Russia is uber dangerous and cannot be trusted, because they meddled in our Election, because they colluded with Trump, etc... They are a wholly EVIL state. That Mueller's Report would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how these two evil men orchestrated theft of power.

YET in 2015 Biden, Obama and Hillary drafted a deal that physically transferred Iran's uranium to Putin's Russia. "No. no. Russia wasn't evil" they said - that the past was in the past. And they were actually praised for building bridges with Russia. Praised for being diplomatic and being everything that 'war mongering Regan' wasn't.

THEN the 2016 Election happened and the MSM media now wanted everyone to think that Russia was 'evil'. Everyone forgot that the outgoing administration had given Russia uranium. pffft...

The convenience of when to call Russia evil and when not to is pretty downright dishonest on your part. I don't care if the Russians have more warheads than we do. Giving them the fuel to build more is irresponsible and treasonous. Of course none of you shills in here will admit it.

Like seriously you couldn't make this stuff up even if you wanted to... but left-leaning Americans are so manipulated by the media that they don't even know it.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/FYT4G95XfCkr6/giphy.gif

Didn't see your answers though.

Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

Where did the uranium come from in the first place?

[Phenomanul]

Deflection alert. Chump deflects in 3... 2... 1...


https://media1.giphy.com/media/FYT4G95XfCkr6/giphy.gif

Didn't see your answers though.

Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

Where did the uranium come from in the first place?

Let me summarize.

Is Russia Evil only when it suits your needs?

Scenario 1) Vladimir Putin's Russia is not evil and can be trusted to be given additional uranium. Democrats everywhere applaud.

Scenario 2) Vladimir Putin's Russia is evil and orchestrated the loss of Hillary Clinton's 2016 Presidential bid. Democrats everywhere gnash their teeth.

[Pavlov]

Deflection alert. Chump deflects in 3... 2... 1...



Let me summarize.

Is Russia Evil only when it suits your needs?

Scenario 1) Vladimir Putin's Russia is not evil and can be trusted to be given additional uranium. Democrats everywhere applaud.

Scenario 2) Vladimir Putin's Russia is evil and orchestrated the loss of Hillary Clinton's 2016 Presidential bid. Democrats everywhere gnash their teeth.:lmao this is your deflection attempt.

Russia is a member of the UN security council and needed for international agreements like this. It can already destroy us with the nuclear material it has had for half a century.

Period.

I will ask for a third time. Please answer this time.

Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

Where did the uranium come from in the first place?

[Phenomanul]

I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

SIMPLE AS THAT.

You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Giving them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.

[spurraider21]

I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

SIMPLE AS THAT.

You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Given them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.
your claim was that the US transferred uranium to iran. you've now turned this into SO IS RUSSIA EVIL OR ONT. goalpost shifted.

i dont think russia is our friend. i also dont think they're going to nuke anybody anytime soon

[Chris]

Does your stubbornness know no end?

The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.

Blake is too cynical to learn anything much like 21 and Pavlov. His posts are complete rubbish; you're better off just ignoring his mumbling and grumbling.

[Pavlov]

I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

SIMPLE AS THAT.

You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Given them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.
You didn't answer any of the questions.

What's your problem?

You held the agreement in your hands.

Just answer the questions.

[Phenomanul]

your claim was that the US transferred uranium to iran. you've now turned this into SO IS RUSSIA EVIL OR ONT. goalpost shifted.

The U.S. facilitated and wrote the bulk of the 2015 Iran Deal... much of the language was directly written by Biden himself. Without our involvement Russia does not receive additional uranium stockpiles.

The U.S. did provide Iran with uranium yellowcake. Over 100 metric tons of it. That's enough uranium ore to be enriched into at least 10 warheads. Here's the catch, this later transfer was given to Iran AFTER the negotiated deal as a "thank you" by Obama.


i dont think russia is our friend. i also dont think they're going to nuke anybody anytime soon

I don't either - which is why the incessant cry from the left over the past two years seems contrived given that they weren't beating that drum when Obama orchestrated the transfer of Uranium to both Iran and Russia, just one year prior. They weren't beating that drum when Hillary Clinton was facilitating the transfer of yet other stockpiles of uranium to Russia via Canada (UraniumOne).

Russia only became evil in their eyes when they tried to associate Trump's victory with the maligned nation.

The collective inability for some of you here to see that hypocrisy is quite dumbfounding.

[spurraider21]

The U.S. facilitated and wrote the bulk of the 2015 Iran Deal... much of the language was directly written by Biden himself. Without our involvement Russia does not receive additional uranium stockpiles.

The U.S. did provide Iran with uranium yellowcake. Over 100 metric tons of it. That's enough uranium ore to be enriched into at least 10 warheads. Here's the catch, this later transfer was given to Iran AFTER the negotiated deal as a "thank you" by Obama.
can you point to the portions of the agreement you are referring to? page numbers... i linked the full doc above

[Phenomanul]

The U.S. facilitated and wrote the bulk of the 2015 Iran Deal... much of the language was directly written by Biden himself. Without our involvement Russia does not receive additional uranium stockpiles.

The U.S. did provide Iran with uranium yellowcake. Over 100 metric tons of it. That's enough uranium ore to be enriched into at least 10 warheads. Here's the catch, this later transfer was given to Iran AFTER the negotiated deal as a "thank you" by Obama.


can you point to the portions of the agreement you are referring to? page numbers... i linked the full doc above

[spurraider21]

No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna July of 2015. This was the same document that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.

Edit: July not September (checked my booking logs)
I HELD IT IN VIENNA

you said you knew about uranium transfers because you physically held the actual copy of the deal. now the uranium transfers were not part of the deal. lol

[Phenomanul]

In fact Obama wanted to give Iran uranium sooner (as early as 2010) via Argentina. Then president, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner accidentally spilled the beans at the U.N. Summit in New York, Monday September 28, 2015.

"I also want to congratulate myself and to congratulate the United States of America, the Islamic Republic of Iran and also the remaining members of the Permanent Members of the UN Security Council plus Germany on account of their having reached an agreement on nuclear matters that helps to loosen up the situation and provides increased certainty and safety in a world shrouded in conflicts and warmongering.

We were aware of these negotiations. We harbored hopes that this agreement would eventually see the light of day. You will wonder how we knew. Easy: in 2010 we were visited in Argentina by Gary Samore, at that time the White House’s top advisor in nuclear issues. He came to see us in Argentina with a mission, with an objective: under the control of IAEA, the international organization in the field of weapons control and nuclear regulation, Argentina had supplied in the year 1987, during the first democratic government, the nuclear fuel for the reactor known as “Teheran”. Gary Samore had explained to our Minister of Foreign Affairs, Héctor Timerman, that negotiations were underway for the Islamic Republic of Iran to cease with its uranium enrichment activities or to do it to a lesser extent but Iran claimed that it needed to enrich this Teheran nuclear reactor and this was hindering negotiations. They came to ask us, Argentines, to provide the Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear fuel. Rohani was not in office yet. It was Ahmadinejad’s administration and negotiations had already started.

I remember that the Minister of Foreign Affairs came to see me and relayed the proposal that Samore had brought to me. Timerman had already warned the White House’s envoy that his request would be hard to satisfy in the light of the difficult situation between Argentina and the Islamic Republic of Iran because of the terrorist attack against AMIA in the Argentine Republic occurred on July 18, 1994 and the decision made by the judge in the case to press charges against five Iranian citizens and summon them to appear in court. Against this backdrop, Argentina’s contribution to this negotiation process which, let me repeat, had already reached the year 2010, was impossible. The Minister of Foreign Affairs came to see me in my office, and I remember this very clearly, and I said that if this request were made in writing and signed, we could, after all, cooperate, because we believed that the attainment of the non-nuclear proliferation objective was of the utmost importance.

You know that Argentina is a member of the select club of nuclear energy producing countries but that we occupy, nonetheless, a leading position in the field of non-proliferation. This means that non-nuclear proliferation is also a matter of governmental interest to us as well.

I said as much to my Minister of Foreign Affairs who in turn relayed this to the White House’s envoy, Gary Samore that we would accept to provide the fuel because it was in the hands of Argentina since 1987 and we also had the technique to produce it in exchange, obviously, for such request to be submitted in writing and signed. This message was conveyed and I believe that was the last time, after that communication, that our Minister of Foreign Affairs saw Gary Samore."

https://www.cfkargentina.com/address-by-cristina-kirchner-at-un-general-assembly-2015/

I wrote about this when I read her address because she unintentionally revealed that Obama's administration was trying to broker deals in the shadows - deals that would equip the Iranian regime with additional Uranium (mind you during Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's tenure as President of Iran). This is the same guy that said that, "Israel needed to be wiped off the pages of history" - meanwhile No. 44 was trying to find ways to send uranium stockpiles over their way.

[ElNono]

I stated historical facts about Catholic faith. I find violence, abuse of power, etc on *all* religious condemnable.

I’ve also stated that religion can be helpful to people in some areas. I don’t think it has implicit zero utilitarian value.

Not sure how’s that vilification, but I guess just waiving arguments off with ‘X or Y are haters’ is easier to actually address the issues.

[Phenomanul]

No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna July of 2015. This was the same document that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.

Edit: July not September (checked my booking logs)



I HELD IT IN VIENNA

you said you knew about uranium transfers because you physically held the actual copy of the deal now the uranium transfers were not part of the deal. lol

Are you pretending like Russia was not a part of the original deal..? I clearly said it in the same post. Don't know why you are ignoring it. Oh wait, yeah. cause it doesn't suit your back-pedaling argument.

The lengths that you all are willing to go in order to deny what is patently obvious is ridiculous. Obama's treasonous history with both Russia and Iran is the proverbial elephant in the room and you all are running around saying "What elephant? We don't see any elephant...!"

[Phenomanul]

I stated historical facts about Catholic faith. I find violence, abuse of power, etc on *all* religious condemnable.

I’ve also stated that religion can be helpful to people in some areas. I don’t think it has implicit zero utilitarian value.

Not sure how’s that vilification, but I guess just waiving arguments off with ‘X or Y are haters’ is easier to actually address the issues.

I probably denounce the Catholic institution more than anyone here in this forum. Objectively speaking, they deserve much of the derision that is thrown their way. They are one of the richest institutions on earth. They wield excessive amounts of power.

But I don't vilify followers of Christ - and that continues to be a central talking point around these parts.

[Phenomanul]

I'm out... I'm going to watch Avengers Endgame.

[ElNono]

I probably denounce the Catholic institution more than anyone here in this forum. Objectively speaking, they deserve much of the derision that is thrown their way. They are one of the richest institutions on earth. They wield excessive amounts of power.

But I don't vilify followers of Christ - and that continues to be a central talking point around these parts.

I don’t have a problem with anybody’s personal faith, and if we’re being honest, there’s a lot of trollbait going on here wrt to that. I simply take exception to the notion that secularism is somehow inferior in any shape to a theocracy.

It’s not that I don’t understand how a Christian would be a big fan of Christian Theocracy, is that when the world largely was, it was a mess, and at the end of the day, it’s always humans running the show in the name of X deity.

[spurraider21]

Are you pretending like Russia was not a part of the original deal..? I clearly said it in the same post. Don't know why you are ignoring it. Oh wait, yeah. cause it doesn't suit your back-pedaling argument.

The lengths that you all are willing to go in order to deny what is patently obvious is ridiculous. Obama's treasonous history with both Russia and Iran is the proverbial elephant in the room and you all are running around saying "What elephant? We don't see any elephant...!"
and i'm asking you to detail the transfers of uranium as alleged due to your knowledge of what the deal felt like in your hands in vienna

[spurraider21]

I'm out... I'm going to watch Avengers Endgame.
grats tbh, i couldnt get tix.

enjoy

:bobo

[Blake]

Are you pretending like Russia was not a part of the original deal..? I clearly said it in the same post. Don't know why you are ignoring it. Oh wait, yeah. cause it doesn't suit your back-pedaling argument.

The lengths that you all are willing to go in order to deny what is patently obvious is ridiculous. Obama's treasonous history with both Russia and Iran is the proverbial elephant in the room and you all are running around saying "What elephant? We don't see any elephant...!"

The lengths you go to in order to avoid producing the elephant is mind numbing.

[Avant]

Watched the NFL draft tonight, will check out that Avengers movie today and later on the Clippers vs Warriors game. Will barbecue some steaks somewhere in there. Have a few mixed drinks listening to some vintage Western Swing.


Just an average day for most of us. No thoughts of killing anyone or blowing anything up. No thoughts of anything having to do with religion or anything other than having a good time.

I do believe the reason we see how this violent bullshit out of Islam/Middle East is they don't have shit going on. Noting to look forward to nothing to talk about. No....

So who are your fav authors

movies
football team
actor
basketball team
pro rassler
NCAA teams
How about that 19.76 sprinter at Texas Tech

So many of those freaks would just as soon....BOOM....as go on living their boring ass life.


Now add The Quran. I have never opened the book up to any random page and not found something having to do with violence.

Will this be the first?

page 349

.............you will be one of the inmates in the fire.
..............fear your Lord
..............the punishment of a Terrible Day.
..............they will have sheets of fire beneath them
...............can you rescue one who is already in the fire

How in the fuck could anyone with even half a brain buy into this stupid shit? Hell, page....351

Are you kidding me. is this shit for real?

......who will suffer a humiliating torment and on who with descend an everlasting punishment.

Oh hell yes sign me up for this crazy bullshit. Punish me, punish me.

[Pavlov]

Quit talking about yourself.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1121537055362654208

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1121537055362654208

:lmao "silent"

It's in the NYT and I heard it on NPR.

Qhris silent.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TeaBoots/status/1121863969860456449

[Pavlov]

:lmao Ruthann Teaboots

[spurraider21]

:lmao Ruthann Teaboots
upgrade or downgrade to chuck woolery?

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/TeaBoots/status/1121863969860456449

Mumford & Sons is playing in Stockholm May 21.:rollin

:lol Prager
:lol Qhris

[Spurtacular]

Mumford & Sons is playing in Stockholm May 21.:rollin

:lol Prager
:lol Qhris

Muslim gang rape ain't no thang, then. Amirite?

[Blake]

:lmao "silent"

It's in the NYT and I heard it on NPR.

Qhris silent.

Chris ignores this failure, moves on to next tweet.

[MultiTroll]

Mumford & Sons is playing in Stockholm May 21.:rollin
Possible Mumford & Sons stance forced promoters to have vastly better security thus they agreed?

[Blake]

Possible Mumford & Sons stance forced promoters to have vastly better security thus they agreed?

Do you believe this or are you just conspiratizing