Spurs Select G Derrick White in the 2017 NBA Draft (29th Overall)

[Pavlov]

You could try answering questions instead of making dump assumptions.This isn't what you've been saying?

What are you saying?

[Pavlov]

You know or not. Make up your mind, tbh.No one can know any of this. I told you what I think.

[DAF86]

Both. White is a better PG. Forbes is a better shooter.

To be honest, Forbes played 80 games last year and started in 12. So PATFO is already sold on him to play in the rotation.

The most natural point guard on the team is White. Murray be the designated PG, but until he lowers his dribble and can shoot, there will be opportunity for White.

Last year Spurs had Parker, Ginobilli and even Anderson to play PG duties. None of them are back.

It's sink or swim, Murray, White or Forbes will need to learn how to play the position.

I recall Parker in one of his tweets saying that this is White's opportunity to step up.

So, who's out of the rotation? Mills, Bellinelli?

[J_Paco]

I'm in the camp this will be good for Derrick White. Now that I know his commitment is over 1 week before training camp, this seems like the best way to be ready for training camp. He will be in better game ready mode by training camp and should compete for a spot in the rotation which is what training camp and preseason is for. Incredible opportunity to play intense games with JVG coaching.

Not to mention if he impresses the coaches on opportunities like this his name may come up more often in the future for even bigger tournaments. Hopefully things go smooth li y and his game and confidence grows from this experience.

Exactly, it might not be against top flight competition but it is more reps against pro players of varying skill levels.

[Chinook]

This isn't what you've been saying?

What are you saying?

You should try actually answering questions. There's legit trying to point out issues in people's argument, and there's not arguing in good faith. You're doing the second one right now. You're suggesting that White's inclusion has nothing to do with his projected role in the NBA next year. If that's the case, why weren't guys with solid NBA roles also included on the roster? It doesn't make sense to assume that everyone higher than White in standing declined. It makes more sense to believe they weren't even asked because of a decision to go after lesser-tier guys. The question I have is why White is considered to be in a tier with d-leaguers and fringe rotation guys when the USANT's coach should be expecting him to be a solid rotation player. SpursDynasty85 provided an interesting reason, though not one without problems. You've yet to.

[Pavlov]

You should try actually answering questions. There's legit trying to point out issues in people's argument, and there's not arguing in good faith. You're doing the second one right now. You're suggesting that White's inclusion has nothing to do with his projected role in the NBA next year. If that's the case, why weren't guys with solid NBA roles also included on the roster? It doesn't make sense to assume that everyone higher than White in standing declined. It makes more sense to believe they weren't even asked because of a decision to go after lesser-tier guys. The question I have is why White is considered to be in a tier with d-leaguers and fringe rotation guys when the USANT's coach should be expecting him to be a solid rotation player.He's currently in that tier.

After this season, probably not. At least that's what I think.

Pretty simple.

This is a bunch of hand wringing over nothing.

IMO

[DAF86]

No one can know any of this. I told you what I think.

Of course, nobody knows for sure. I'm just asking you what do you think the rotation will be.

Every Spurs fan already has, in his/her mind, the possible rotation of the team. To me it's clear that veterans like Mills, Bellinelli, DeRozan, Aldridge, Gasol and Gay will play. Then Murray is a lock too. Then, because of a matter of roster construction, I think Bertans and Poetl will be rotation players too. That leaves place for only one more rotation player. I think that player should be White, but I fear it might be Forbes.

If you say "White will play", I have to infer that you think White will be a rotation player. That's why I'm asking you who do you think will be out of the rotation to open the space for White.

[Pavlov]

Of course, nobody knows for sure. I'm just asking you what do you think the rotation will be.

Every Spurs fan already has, in his/her mind, the possible rotation of the team. To me it's clear that veterans like Mills, Bellinelli, DeRozan, Aldridge, Gasol and Gay will play. Then Murray is a lock too. Then, because of a matter of roster construction, I think Bertans and Poetl will be rotation players too. That leaves place for only one more rotation player. I think that player should be White, but I fear it might be Forbes.

If you say "White will play", I have to infer that you think White will be a rotation player. That's why I'm asking you who do you think will be out of the rotation to open the space for White.I think there will be wholesale experimentation to start the season with White and Forbes getting rotation minutes. If Forbes shoots exceptionally well, they'll stick with him. If not they'll go with White. Their roles will probably change more than once in the season and you'll all point to that as a reason they don't go farther in the playoffs.

Any other questions?

[DAF86]

I think there will be wholesale experimentation to start the season with White and Forbes getting rotation minutes. If Forbes shoots exceptionally well, they'll stick with him. If not they'll go with White. Their roles will probably change more than once in the season and you'll all point to that as a reason they don't go farther in the playoffs.

Any other questions?

Yes. Do you think that should be the way to handle White? I don't. I think White is a very promising player that needs to be given consistent minutes (and a consistent role) to see if he can translate all that promise into the NBA.

[Pavlov]

Yes. Do you think that should be the way to handle White? I don't. I think White is a very promising player that needs to be given consistent minutes to see if he can translate all that promise into the NBA.Of course you do.

Hence my prediction in the previous post.

I'm fine with it.

[DAF86]

Of course you do.

Hence my prediction in the previous post.

I'm fine with it.

Of course you do. That way, if White is relegated to garbage time minutes at the expense of one dimensional players like Mills, Forbes and Bellinelli, you have an out to keep justifying every single decision Pop and the Spurs management make.

[Pavlov]

Of course you do. That way, if White is relegated to garbage time minutes at the expense of one dimensional players like Mills, Forbes and Bellinelli, you have an out to keep justifying every single decision Pop and the Spurs management make.Nah, I certainly can say he should have played more if I think he played better than the others. You'll always have the fantasy argument that he could've been better if he played more in the first place.

It's easy.

[Pavlov]

Anyway is tonight's game being televised so we can watch this scrub fail?

[SpursDynasty85]

I feel like sometimes easing players into the rotation is a good thing too. Some players just aren't ready and they struggle and lose confidence which can lead to bad habits and undisciplined on the court. It is probably the safer thing to do.
Has Pop been perfect? No, but I think he'll get it right more than not this year. He has to. Too many new players anyway.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

:pop: White spent last season playing in the D league. This next season he will be a rotation player playing in about 60 games averaging 5 minutes a game. Y'all don't know my style of coaching yet?

[SAGirl]

Yes, the drama queening over two weeks of a 24 year old's summer is silly.
Pav you like to hit your head against a wall right?

[SAGirl]

Davis Bertans for example is not participating on behalf of team latvia bc the tournament was too close to the start of training camp. That's definitely a sign that he's expected to be a rotation player from the beginning.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/report-bertans-will-not-play-for-lativa-at-world-cup-qualifier-this-fall


Of course, I would very much like it, if games were, for example, at the end of August, without questions, I would definitely play.

[Pavlov]

Pav you like to hit your head against a wall right?Nope. I said what I meant.

[SAGirl]

Both. White is a better PG. Forbes is a better shooter.

To be honest, Forbes played 80 games last year and started in 12. So PATFO is already sold on him to play in the rotation.

The most natural point guard on the team is White. Murray be the designated PG, but until he lowers his dribble and can shoot, there will be opportunity for White.

Last year Spurs had Parker, Ginobilli and even Anderson to play PG duties. None of them are back.

It's sink or swim, Murray, White or Forbes will need to learn how to play the position.

I recall Parker in one of his tweets saying that this is White's opportunity to step up.

You might have a point on Forbes. I kind of expected him to be a depth bench player (he wouldn't have played all that much last season if the team didn't have the rash of injuries on the wing that it had, and if Kiwi had not be bitchmade...)... And he played the vast majority of his minutes as a wing anyways, not a PG.

Anyways, I don't know where Pop stands on Forbes vs. White debate but I will not now be surprised if Forbes is ahead in the rotation with White having to prove himself from the deep bench and grabbing a spot by standing out when given opportunities. I do expect opportunities for White. If he sucks, then that's different. Even real scrubs like JoLo got plenty opportunities last season.

[SAGirl]

Nope. I said what I meant.
basically... wall meets your head. lol

[Pavlov]

basically... wall meets your head. lol
Nope.

This is an amazing amount of drama anywhere outside ST.

They have plans for White and he will play IMO.

[SAGirl]

White will be behind Forbes to start the season because Forbes was here first. "It wouldn't be fair to others, blah, blah" and all that.

White will probably surpass Forbes in the rotation relatively soon considering Forbes is complete dogshit, but the initial rotation is not some big mystery. We know how Pop works, people. Classic Spurstalk overanalysis indeed.
You might be very right.

White probably thought, heck, I am not going to be in the rotation to start, and I will get my chances after Forbes proves inadequate or there are injuries?

Well Ok then, I am playing for this Gleague team USA squad, then I will come in and steal other's cookies... (Forbes, or Mills or Marco...)

If he can't steal anyone's cookies ... well he might be on a CoJo path (if he were to get on a DeColo path, it would be disappointing).

[SAGirl]

Nope.

This is an amazing amount of drama anywhere outside ST.

They have plans for White and he will play IMO.
This is a board for speculation among fans and is the dog ends of the summer. You want to hit your head against a wall, go ahead Pav.

Or maybe you prefer threads that talk about Jilly's feet and peanut butter... (bc some people do like Jilly tbh)

[Pavlov]

This is a board for speculation among fans and is the dog ends of the summer. You want to hit your head against a wall, go ahead Pav.Actually you're the one doing that digging for information to support your dramatic conclusion that White is considered expendable. (Look! Look! See? Bertans!)


Or maybe you prefer threads that talk about Jilly's feet and peanut butter... (bc some people do like Jilly tbh)Yeah, because I've posted so much in that thread. That's weak shit your throwing.

[Pavlov]

Anyway is tonight's game being televised so we can watch this scrub fail?

ESPN+

[SpursDynasty85]

Davis Bertans for example is not participating on behalf of team latvia bc the tournament was too close to the start of training camp. That's definitely a sign that he's expected to be a rotation player from the beginning.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/report-bertans-will-not-play-for-lativa-at-world-cup-qualifier-this-fall

Or he's already had tons of national experience and wants to focus on the season. White would love this experience and would argue benefit more from it.

[SpursDynasty85]

ESPN+

Dang. I may sign up again so I can watch him play more.

[Pavlov]

Dang. I may sign up again so I can watch him play more.Yeah I think I have to sign up for UTSA football anyway, so taking the free week a week early.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1040684063101726721

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1040684063101726721

six points, one rebound in 7 mins playing time first Q. 3/6 shooting.

[kjhip1]

White playing good off the ball making some good cuts and more importantly, playing good d

[Pavlov]

six points, one rebound in 7 mins playing time first Q. 3/6 shooting.Definitely has green light to shoot, but is mainly benefiting from great point guard play on offense. Solid D. Best +/- at 17.

[Chinook]

How's the quality of the stream? The subscription doesn't sound like too much, but if it's shitty, I'd rather save my trial for a more important event.

[Chinook]

Here is the link for the box score:

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/americas-qualifiers/game/1409/USA-Uruguay#tab=boxscore

Frank Mason is looking great, at least by the numbers. It looks like they'll have a replay up on Youtube pretty soon after the game goes final.

[Pavlov]

How's the quality of the stream? The subscription doesn't sound like too much, but if it's shitty, I'd rather save my trial for a more important event.It's ESPN3 for extra money. Stream is fine on Roku. PJ doing the color commentary.

[Chinook]

It's ESPN3 for extra money. Stream is fine on Roku. PJ doing the color commentary.

Sounds like it could be worse. Thanks.

[Chinook]

White just had a great stretch leading to a time-out. Five points, three assists, a rebound and a steal to start the third.

[Pavlov]

Basically playing a two-man game with Mason, +/- up to 38. Uruguay threw this game tho. Left their best players at home.

[Pavlov]

Sounds like it could be worse. Thanks.They have a 7 day free trial btw.

[joeyjfive]

Reddit has a stream right now that is decent quality. I’m not sure if White is going to come back into the game though.

[Pavlov]

Second best player this game after Mason. He's on the team because Pop and JVG don't want to lose any games. Pop and Ime were in the stands, probably others. Didn't pay enough attention.

[Harry Callahan]

Instruction from JVG is a good thing for anyone.

I'm a Spurs homer big time and I see White being a quality NBA player for a long time given health. He is a much better athlete than I though seeing his work in the summer league.

Year 2 should be good for him. The Spurs have no choice but to put some kids out there this year. Most of the experience from last year outside of LMA and Patty walked out the door.

[SpursDynasty85]

Second best player this game after Mason. He's on the team because Pop and JVG don't want to lose any games. Pop and Ime were in the stands, probably others. Didn't pay enough attention.

That's great. Looks like the coaches are taking a hard look at him genuinely looking to implement him the best way possible this season. He will be 25 so I think he will be ready. Love that he got 6 assists in the game as the main facilitator.

[Chinook]

That's great. Looks like the coaches are taking a hard look at him genuinely looking to implement him the best way possible this season. He will be 25 so I think he will be ready. Love that he got 6 assists in the game as the main facilitator.

Mason was the main facilitator. White had half his assists in a short sequence involving multiple fast breaks to begin the second half. That's what I was able to glean from highlights and the play-by-play. I didn't see much evidence of him doing much PG work, but what I did like was that his dimes seemed to be of the "good to great" category. That was the motto for the unselfish Spurs before people started calling it the "Beautiful Game." I'd like to see more PnR work for White and for him to be the lead guard in his minutes with the Spurs. But being able to make things happen off the ball is certainly a nice skill to have, and it would allow him to play with the other perimeter players better than other guys who need the ball in their hands to be effective.

Also, the announcers called White the best player for either team. I suspect that had to do with White's defense. He had two steals, and probably played aggressively on that end considering his fouls and that one highlight of him not conceding a bucket against a big on the break (went for an and-1 anyway, but the effort was there). All of that bodes well.

[SpursDynasty85]

Mason was the main facilitator. White had half his assists in a short sequence involving multiple fast breaks to begin the second half. That's what I was able to glean from highlights and the play-by-play. I didn't see much evidence of him doing much PG work, but what I did like was that his dimes seemed to be of the "good to great" category. That was the motto for the unselfish Spurs before people started calling it the "Beautiful Game." I'd like to see more PnR work for White and for him to be the lead guard in his minutes with the Spurs. But being able to make things happen off the ball is certainly a nice skill to have, and it would allow him to play with the other perimeter players better than other guys who need the ball in their hands to be effective.

Also, the announcers called White the best player for either team. I suspect that had to do with White's defense. He had two steals, and probably played aggressively on that end considering his fouls and that one highlight of him not conceding a bucket against a big on the break (went for an and-1 anyway, but the effort was there). All of that bodes well.

Thanks for the insight. Wish I caught the game. As much as Derrick handles the ball in the D League I believe Derrick can make the biggest impacts off the ball. It's become a trend to have one guy dominate the ball so much on a possession and with DJ and DeRozan as our main facilitators, Derrick will be a HUGE part for us if he can make good cuts, come off screens, hustle off the ball and spread the floor for us. Derrick is definitely Italy serviceable with the ball in his hands but I dont see him having the body or athleticism to stay healthy attacking as a pg type player on the pick n roll.

[Pavlov]

Game 2 vs. Panama tonight 8PM ESPN+.

[objective]

uruguay game

White plays in all 4 quarters


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqroxYyJQk0

[objective]

not a very efficient game for White in the 30 point win

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/americas-qualifiers/game/1709/Panama-USA#|tab=boxscore

Derrick White 21:58 5points 2/11 18.2% 1/5 20% 1/6 16.7% 0/0 - 2 4 6 reb 4 assists 1 2 1 1 +23

[ceperez]

not a very efficient game for White in the 30 point win

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/americas-qualifiers/game/1709/Panama-USA#|tab=boxscore

Derrick White 21:58 5points 2/11 18.2% 1/5 20% 1/6 16.7% 0/0 - 2 4 6 reb 4 assists 1 2 1 1 +23

Wow... crashed down to earth!!

[BackHome]

Probably felt bad for Panama lived there 8 yrs only locals play baseball and a little soccer and boxing offcourse. But in all my time never seen anyone play basketball in Panama baseball is the love of the land.

[Pavlov]

Just shooting short on his jumpers. Shot selection was actually better than last game. Was actually called in when Panama made a run to pull within ~11, so don't think he wasn't important to the win. Played the 2 exclusively. Assists coming off drive and kicks were nice.

[BackHome]

When it comes to White he is a guard meaning he can play PG or SG his handles are second best only DRZ has better handles and he sees the court and passes like a PG. He can easily play with Murray I think their games compliment each other.

[DAF86]

Dude looking pretty damn well against NBA competition, tbh.

Pop needs to snap out of his Forbes' crush and give all his minutes to White. This kid could be special. If given enough playing time, he could easily become the team's 3rd or 4th best player.

[Mr. Body]

White has some advanced moves, a good shot, and better court vision than any other guard on the roster.

[DAF86]

White is arguably the most rounded player we have on the entire roster.

[RD2191]

Start White? Where does that leave Murray though? Demar is starting at the 3, right?

[DAF86]

Start White? Where does that leave Murray though? Demar is starting at the 3, right?

Murray at PG, White at SG and DeRozan at SF.

[DAF86]

Let this kid start. He might turn the Murray injury into a blessing in disguise.

[KDKSpurs24]

Let this kid start. He might turn the Murray injury into a blessing in disguise.
It’s not even considered a blessing in disguise to me. He was gonna play anyways. I would rather have more bodies. More players that can affect the game on the team. Having one less doesn’t help. Yeah I’m trying to be optimistic but having both of them would have been way better.

[R. DeMurre]

The basketball gods just gave Derrick White a whole bunch of minutes...

[exstatic]

The basketball gods just gave Lonnie Walker a whole bunch of minutes...when he returns

[paperboy77]

Spurs should stay pat on bringing anyone in. I love Murray but he still didn’t look good running the team. I agree about the blessing in disguise in that White can get free reign and show what he’s got. Hopefully Pop lets him and White takes every advantage. Everybody’s seen that in limited minutes that guy was, in my opinion, already pushing Murray. I hope Murray pulls a varsity blues on the NBA. Go Mox!

[Harry Callahan]

White is a more polished shooter and offensive player. The D and rebounding were DJs strengths. Hopefully he (White) can produce and soon. Options are now way more limited at least for this year.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Derrick White is starting tonight

[SpursDynasty85]

It's a good sign White is starting tonight. No way Spurs do a full rebuild. Its sink or swim for White. I hope this somehow brings more minutes for Metu as well.

[Dhbsr555]

I do believe he’s gonna be a hell of a player. Guess time will tell.

[emanueldavidginobili]

White is out tomorrow with a heel injury...

[Chinook]

White is out tomorrow with a heel injury...

Son of a bitch. I wouldn't want anything to do with being a young Spurs guard right now. And White isn't even that young.

[SAGirl]

White had been kinda injury prone too... but he hasn't had injuries as serious as the other two.

Where is tbdog to tell me they don't need bodies bc they are all set?

(Tbdog is one of my faves, but I disagree with him, bc they do need bodies)...

Frankly I am fine with tanking at this point :spin

[Nathan89]

White had been kinda injury prone too... but he hasn't had injuries as serious as the other two.

Where is tbdog to tell me they don't need bodies bc they are all set?

(Tbdog is one of my faves, but I disagree with him, bc they do need bodies)...

Frankly I am fine with tanking at this point :spin

We're due for a #1 pick.

[Nathan89]

We're due for a #1 pick.

Or a lottery pick.

[SpursDynasty85]

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has already penciled two names into his starting lineup this season. LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan, All-Stars both of them, will be in it. Popovich is ready to add a third name as well. Derrick White will be the Spurs’ opening-night point guard after Dejounte Murray’s devastating knee injury. “We’re going with him,” Popovich said. “He’s our guy.”



12 hours ago – via San Antonio Express-News

Hopefully the injury is not serious.

[Chinook]

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has already penciled two names into his starting lineup this season. LaMarcus Aldridge and DeMar DeRozan, All-Stars both of them, will be in it. Popovich is ready to add a third name as well. Derrick White will be the Spurs’ opening-night point guard after Dejounte Murray’s devastating knee injury. “We’re going with him,” Popovich said. “He’s our guy.”



12 hours ago – via San Antonio Express-News

Hopefully the injury is not serious.

I imagine Pop knew about the injury when he said this. Should be fine. He's going to have to be prepared to play more than half the game, every game, though.

[SAGirl]

Spurs really should look to add some depth ... (not some vet to take his place mind you). But Derrick is prone to nags (and didn't finish summer league after a good start bc of it).

[Namundy]

Spurs really should look to add some depth ... (not some vet to take his place mind you). But Derrick is prone to nags (and didn't finish summer league after a good start bc of it).

This really worries me. Out of Lonnie, DJ, White -- I predicted White wouldn't make it through the season health wise. Turns out it was the other way around but he's still very susceptible to injury. Please no.

[SpursDynasty85]

Spurs really should look to add some depth ... (not some vet to take his place mind you). But Derrick is prone to nags (and didn't finish summer league after a good start bc of it).

If Derrick missed substantial time I can see needing to add one but right now we can put Forbes in the starting line up as "pg" since DeRozan can handle a lot of the pick and roll action now. He is also a good fit spacing wise. Forbes should make a good leap this year. Off the bench we still have Mills and Belli. We need a perimeter defender badly. Not sure what's out there but George Hill for example would be exactly what we need. (Regardless of contract).

[SpursDynasty85]

I imagine Pop knew about the injury when he said this. Should be fine. He's going to have to be prepared to play more than half the game, every game, though.

Looking further into that SA news report it was dated Oct. 10th prior to last nights game. This injury probably happened in game but I could be wrong. Looked like he played all he could. So far his durability is concerning though but if hes healthy it looks like he will get last year's Dejounte treatment. If not Forbes should get the start.

[ceperez]

I'm in agreement with other posters. The problem with White is that he's prone to injury. I would be surprised if he plays all games this season.

[tbdog]

White had been kinda injury prone too... but he hasn't had injuries as serious as the other two.

Where is tbdog to tell me they don't need bodies bc they are all set?

(Tbdog is one of my faves, but I disagree with him, bc they do need bodies)...

Frankly I am fine with tanking at this point :spin

What do you mean bodies? Point guard bodies? There is nothing out there. I never agree on tanking unless it's necessary. LMA and DD are one of the better 2 way punches in the league.

[kobyz]

According to 2k9 white is the fourth fastes player in the league, lol

[SAGirl]

What do you mean bodies? Point guard bodies? There is nothing out there. I never agree on tanking unless it's necessary. LMA and DD are one of the better 2 way punches in the league.
There’s always someone in the Gleague, specially guards. PATFO shops there regularly.

[playbonner15]

Great game from DWhite

[Dejounte]

Told y'all he would be the next Manu.

[Mr. Body]

He sees the floor way better than anyone else on the team.

[BackHome]

A lot of posters going to eat Crow when it comes to White

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh brother, this guy STINKS

[TheGreatYacht]

Holy shit this guys can't stop sucking cock out there. Not only is he shooting 33% from the field and 20% from three, every single possible "advanced" stat has him as a negative. That's almost impossible to do...

[TheGreatYacht]

He sees the floor way better than anyone else on the team.

A lot of posters going to eat Crow when it comes to White
Two shit posters with two shit takes.

[DJR210]

It took White what? 3 games to be demoted behind Bryn and Patty? Let that sink in a second..

[TheGreatYacht]

Livio Jean-Charles, Nikola Milutinov, James Anderson, Kyle Anderson, Derrick White. Prototypical RC Drunkford first round draft picks.

Jury is still out on Instagram baller and Derrick Rose knees.

[TD 21]

He's got all the tools to be a quality third guard, but none of it matters if you lack confidence and are soft.

I realize this is basically his rookie season, but he's already 24, which makes it more difficult to be patient. Not helping matters is the lack of of another viable perimeter defender or secondary play maker.

They need him and if he can't start delivering soon, I'd consider throwing him into trade packages for the likes of Dinwiddie, Rozier and Wright (their teams might prefer to reset the clock with a similar type) before whatever shine he had wears off.

[acoelho1]

Amazingly people thinking he was better than Murray. haha

[TheGreatYacht]

Amazingly people thinking he was better than Murray. haha
Not my guy DAF86 's best take tbh

[r0drig0lac]

if he does not learn to make space against the defenders in the main league and keep playing softly, he will not have many years in this league for sure

[RD2191]

Holy shit this guys can't stop sucking cock out there. Not only is he shooting 33% from the field and 20% from three, every single possible "advanced" stat has him as a negative. That's almost impossible to do...

Spurm fans overrating their scrubs per usual. They think every bum rookie is going to be a star. :lol

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Lol I was super wrong about him. I mean I have until January until my prediction is officially wrong but man he is playing with ZERO confidence and just sucks

[Maddog]

Holy shit this guys can't stop sucking cock out there. Not only is he shooting 33% from the field and 20% from three, every single possible "advanced" stat has him as a negative. That's almost impossible to do...


Livio Jean-Charles, Nikola Milutinov, James Anderson, Kyle Anderson, Derrick White. Prototypical RC Drunkford first round draft picks.

Jury is still out on Instagram baller and Derrick Rose knees.


Lol I was super wrong about him. I mean I have until January until my prediction is officially wrong but man he is playing with ZERO confidence and just sucks

Hard to believe the Spurs whiffed on late 1at. Round picks

[TheGreatYacht]

Hard to believe the Spurs whiffed on late 1at. Round picks
Not hard to believe, actually. RC can't fish at a fucking PetSmart.

[SpursDynasty85]

This guy is easily our best perimeter defender. Time to force him into the lineup and give him time in place of Belli. Belli is just too inconsistent.

[DAF86]

Amazingly people thinking he was better than Murray. haha

I still believe it, tbh. Dude is basically a rookie and you can tell he's playing not to fuck up out there. Even with that, he's already our best defending guard. The offense will come with confidence.

People seem to forget how awful some of Murray's first games were. In fact, he's still not a proven player yet.

[SpursDynasty85]

I still believe it, tbh. Dude is basically a rookie and you can tell he's playing not to fuck up out there. Even with that, he's already our best defending guard. The offense will come with confidence.

People seem to forget how awful some of Murray's first games were. In fact, he's still not a proven player yet.

Agree. Murray's ceiling is higher but White just needs minutes. He is 25 and he is ready to contribute right away.

[BackHome]

Could be worse just look at Phillys Number one pick Fultz :spin

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Hard to believe the Spurs whiffed on late 1at. Round picks
I don't care about us whiffing on a pick. I just thought he was going to be better than he is right now. I've been following his games in Austin and his passing is for real and he can shoot and he can defend. I really think he's a good player. But man he's not playing like it.

[Chinook]

He's better than he showed. That Houston game is closer to what White can be than the recent games are. Something's affecting him mentally. Dunno if it's his benching or the string of bad play that caused it, but he's not even making a bunch of bad plays anymore (ignoring him giving up a five-point swing in last night's five-point loss). There's just no aggression either way. If this is a lost season, one of the principle goals has to be getting White to play at his best again. He has two more cheap years after this one, and the team could really use him being a rotation-caliber player for those years.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

I have said Pop has got to let him play without being afraid any mistake he makes is gonna get him pulled. He is a better defender and passer than Forbes, Mills, and Beli on a team that desperately needs both. Plus If he can develop and play some consistent minutes it will make it much easier to reduce DDR minutes

[SAGirl]

I don't care about us whiffing on a pick. I just thought he was going to be better than he is right now. I've been following his games in Austin and his passing is for real and he can shoot and he can defend. I really think he's a good player. But man he's not playing like it.
I am in this camp. Just disappointed that he’s not the player he showed in flashes last season and with the way he developed in Austin not translating so far. But I am not ready to crucify him yet bc he’s getting his first opportunities and is playing on a team so fragile that they just can’t spare a few mistakes from him and he’s going to make them as he learns so he’s playing not to make mistakes instead of just playing. He’s not confident yet. In the past I have seen Pop bring along sophomores like this with a combination of the short hook and a lot of garbage time minutes. This team doesn’t have a lot of garbage time to give bc games are close either way until the end. So he’s only getting the short hook. It’s tough to get a rhythm or confidence with the short hook but it has to happen at some point.

[BackHome]

Pop just needs to put him in a position where he will do good depending on match ups. I think once Pop realizes we
have no chance making playoffs he will start playing the young guys more

[SuperCam]

Spurm fans overrating their scrubs per usual. They think every bum rookie is going to be a star. :lol

:cry he's only a rookie sort of :cry

PATFO slurpers need to shut the fuck up with this embarrassing defense of a 25 year old scrub tbh. it doesn't mean anything when there are dozens of 19 and 20 year old guards performing much better :lol

[SuperCam]

https://i.imgur.com/2zhc8Lc.png


this scrub has done nothing but scrub it up this season... he fukin sucks there's no sugarcoating it and that he's 25 just makes it all the worse. spur fan used to laugh at other fanbases for hyping scrubs like this tbh

[SAGirl]

:cry he's only a rookie sort of :cry

PATFO slurpers need to shut the fuck up with this embarrassing defense of a 25 year old scrub tbh. it doesn't mean anything when there are dozens of 19 and 20 year old guards performing much better :lol
This is also true. One wonders if those 19 and 20 year old would get the emasculation and castration that Pop gives youngins. They might be in the gleague getting over themselves first, then show up next season fearful of making mistakes and looking spooked bc of the short hook. I believe JSimms was pretty candid about that. Pop is famous for making even veteran guys like Aldridge doubt themselves and what they should be doing. But he has to get over it at some point. It's difficult to even argue he should get a lot more opportunities if he doesn't all of a sudden get an urgency to start balling. Dijon is probably the best guy to talk to him about having no fear.

[Pavlov]

He'll be fine. ST groupthink overreaction.

[John B]

Maybe they should send him to Austin for a couple of games to get his confidence back, instead of riding the bench.

[TheGreatYacht]

:cry he's only a rookie sort of :cry

PATFO slurpers need to shut the fuck up with this embarrassing defense of a 25 year old scrub tbh. it doesn't mean anything when there are dozens of 19 and 20 year old guards performing much better :lol

https://i.imgur.com/2zhc8Lc.png


this scrub has done nothing but scrub it up this season... he fukin sucks there's no sugarcoating it and that he's 25 just makes it all the worse. spur fan used to laugh at other fanbases for hyping scrubs like this tbh
Hiroshima-esque bomb on the delusional fluffers as per par.

[TheGreatYacht]

He'll be fine. ST groupthink overreaction.
The king of Vanilla has joined the chat

[ulosturedge]

He had a couple of bad games and Pop benched him. Dude needs to step up and be assertive. Going back out there and continuing to play soft ain't gonna get it done. Man, such a disappointment. But give him time he's got a 3 point shot and good length. He just didn't turn out to be the immediate gem everyone was wishing/expecting.

On another note I think you guys do swing the pendulum too far sometimes. The kid still has hope.

[SpursDynasty85]

It's all about chemistry with DeRozan. Unfortunately DeRozan is kind of useless off the ball 80% of the time so you have to be his sg even though your position is pg. Forbes just naturally playing sg off DeRozan but White has the enormous job of trying to be pg off of DeRozan. From the looks of it, he has been unfairly coached but at this point in the season Pop needs every single win. Since we are below .500, there should be no excuse but to play him more since he is easily our best defender until we see what Walker can do.

[Pavlov]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/e50ee2833d11eb6939a0f4500b32a40e/tumblr_oc3o9gXu3v1ryachyo1_r1_500.gif

[Spurs da champs]

Injuries really suck & so does Pop's infatuation with Forbes.

[DAF86]

I liked the part where, at the end of the game, the Spurs got a light of distance with the Bulls thanks in part to the play and defense of this guy and Pop decided to bench him in favour of going with his beloved Mills-Forbes pairing.

[SpursDynasty85]

White played well today. You can tell he has a short leash and is feeling the pressure but it is obvious he needs to play more. Coach finally giving him the minutes that count. Need to slowly phase Belli out, especially if Walker can come in and contribute.

[Pavlov]

I liked the part where, at the end of the game, the Spurs got a light of distance with the Bulls thanks in part to the play and defense of this guy and Pop decided to bench him in favour of going with his beloved Mills-Forbes pairing.lol your jihad

[RC_Drunkford]

He's better than he showed. That Houston game is closer to what White can be than the recent games are. Something's affecting him mentally. Dunno if it's his benching or the string of bad play that caused it, but he's not even making a bunch of bad plays anymore (ignoring him giving up a five-point swing in last night's five-point loss). There's just no aggression either way. If this is a lost season, one of the principle goals has to be getting White to play at his best again. He has two more cheap years after this one, and the team could really use him being a rotation-caliber player for those years.

:pop:

[RC_Drunkford]

it's pretty clear that Pop has destroyed all his confidence just like he did with Kyle Anderson. White is now scared to shoot, cause unless it is an open 3 he's not allowed to do that. Pop really has to understand that everybody is not built the same. We weren't able to stop Cory Joseph unless White defended him. Pop needs to trust him more and give him more responsibilities. Kid needs to be more aggressive

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop for some unknown fucking reason starts this cancer, and the Spurs get nearly doubled by a Timberwolves team with no desire to win :lmao

Another great draft pick on the board for RV Drunkford. Bravo.

[SpursDynasty85]

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE GREAT GAME FOR D WHITE. He was the real MVP and defended his butt off. Glad to see him get the minutes and you can tell he is oozing with confidence. If his offense blossoms he is a legit above average starter already. Everybody seemed to feed off his energy on both ends tonight. Such a smart a calm player for so few minutes in the NBA. Great Pick and excited for his future here.

[DAF86]

10, 6, 6. Probably the most well rounded player in the entire roster. He just needs to believe that he belongs.

[SAGirl]

:clap

[Spurs da champs]

Good to see that Pop allowed him to make mistakes and persevere through em. His defense on Lillard was great, he's the only 2 way guard on this team atm.

[MaNu4Tres]

Amazing what can happen when Pop doesnt pull him for any mistake.

The only way Spurs make the playoffs is if Pop frees Derrick & Lonnie at the expense of all of Beli minutes and some of Mills & Bryns.

Those two have to be freed and be given significant roles around LMA, DeRozan, Gay, Bertans.

[BackHome]

Same thing with Bertans he needs to let
the young guys learn if they get beat so what it happens. As long as they play hard and are not afraid to shoot the ball leave them in.

It’s not like we are going to win a championship this year. I want to know for sure what the new kids can bring to the team. Cause Pop and RC are going to have to make real basketball decisions on who they keep, trade, or let go. Fuck that he is a Spurs player crap we need height and athletic talent.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Pop needs to keep this kids confidence up. Last night was the White that I envisioned. Now let's see if he can build on this game and develop into a consistent player. I thought he wouldn't be closing games until January but looks like Pop trusts him right now :toast

[r0drig0lac]

Pop needs to keep this kids confidence up. Last night was the White that I envisioned. Now let's see if he can build on this game and develop into a consistent player. I thought he wouldn't be closing games until January but looks like Pop trusts him right now :toast

Pop put him as starter in his first game pos-injury, he must have seen that this kid is legitimate

[ceperez]

Same thing with Bertans he needs to let
the young guys learn if they get beat so what it happens. As long as they play hard and are not afraid to shoot the ball leave them in.

It’s not like we are going to win a championship this year. I want to know for sure what the new kids can bring to the team. Cause Pop and RC are going to have to make real basketball decisions on who they keep, trade, or let go. Fuck that he is a Spurs player crap we need height and athletic talent.

Yup, pop need to sink or swim with his young talent.

Gay and Aldrige are vets on their last legs. They can barely move.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Pop put him as starter in his first game pos-injury, he must have seen that this kid is legitimate
Yeah he did start him but then he benched him for a while and played him sporadically in other games. Pop just needs to have White's confidence up at this stage since this is his first year along essentially and let him make his mistakes without worrying about being pulled.

[SuperCam]

just a reminder that he is a mediocre at best, backup guard in this league. 3 turnovers in only 20 minutes :tu

[SpursDynasty85]

just a reminder that he is a mediocre at best, backup guard in this league. 3 turnovers in only 20 minutes :tu

If you actually saw the game you would know Pop never put him in position to get a rhythm and pretty much the rest of the team played discombobulated on both ends.

[spurraider21]

some great takes from the regular shitposters tbh


AWFUL PICK.


Typical Spurs. He'll never see the court. He has no game. Another untradeable asset. RC stockpiling them like Good n' Plenty's.


Warriors get Jordan Bell :lmao

RC BUFORD :lmao

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/920x920.jpg

[exstatic]

The Stupid here is strong...

[ZeusWillJudge]

some great takes from the regular shitposters tbh


Wow, that is ugly. I saw someone else in that thread call White "old and slow". I mentioned in another thread, but he had the second best three-quarter sprint time in his combine. And he was practically ready for retirement at 23. :blah

[BillMc]

Nobody is calling him Fathead, Jr. anymore.

The ghosts of Kyles past have been exorcised.

[8FOR!3]

Same thing with Bertans he needs to let
the young guys learn if they get beat so what it happens. As long as they play hard and are not afraid to shoot the ball leave them in.

It’s not like we are going to win a championship this year. I want to know for sure what the new kids can bring to the team. Cause Pop and RC are going to have to make real basketball decisions on who they keep, trade, or let go. Fuck that he is a Spurs player crap we need height and athletic talent.

I agree we need to let the young guys play and learn but I think Pop pulls guys for mistakes sometimes just so in the future they don't make the same mistakes. It makes the players think about it and I'm sure it helps the team cut down on mistakes or he wouldn't do it just to do it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs have been retooling after the big3 left, and losing nearly half of that roster that made it to the wcf against the gsw...

these new young guys are lucky, they are being thrown out there to be tested...yet there are still 2-3 pos of this team that needs to go to make way for younger players

[Play Boban]

some great takes from the regular shitposters tbh

:cry

I called Kawhitter before mainstream spermfam knew what was going on, so enjoy your victory on the one pick I've gotten wrong. :lmao

[spurraider21]

:cry

I called Kawhitter before mainstream spermfam knew what was going on, so enjoy your victory on the one pick I've gotten wrong. :lmao
well considering your entire shtick is that everyone sucks, it's not surprising

[ZeusWillJudge]

well considering your entire shtick is that everyone sucks, it's not surprising


LOL. Yep, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[GusT15]

Derrick White and the Spurs on the cover of the new Sports Illustrated!

The new Sports Illustrated issue goes on sale Thursday, April 4.

https://newscdn.weigelbroadcasting.com/iyFcn-1554242995-embed-SPI190408_GIANNIS_PROMO.jpg

What? :lol

[JeffDuncan]

At least they spelled White's name right.

[John B]

Derrick White and the Spurs on the cover of the new Sports Illustrated!

The new Sports Illustrated issue goes on sale Thursday, April 4.

https://newscdn.weigelbroadcasting.com/iyFcn-1554242995-embed-SPI190408_GIANNIS_PROMO.jpg

What? :lol

Wtf? :lmao:lmao The Spurs have become Sacramento level of respect

[BillMc]

Wtf? :lmao:lmao The Spurs have become Sacramento level of respect

Sacramento did just sweep us. So, maybe its deserved.

[monty4329]

BTW White #29, and some people here still want to tank.....

[TDomination]

Derrick White and the Spurs on the cover of the new Sports Illustrated!

The new Sports Illustrated issue goes on sale Thursday, April 4.

https://newscdn.weigelbroadcasting.com/iyFcn-1554242995-embed-SPI190408_GIANNIS_PROMO.jpg

What? :lol

Its okay we won this game! lol

[GusT15]

Its okay we won this game! lol

:lol That was my exact second thought when i saw that.

(My first was "Oh the disrespect".My third thought was "Giannis didn't really dunk it from that angle,did he?"-He didn't) :lol

[EmantheSpursFan]

Bump

[Hedgie]

Some amazing takes in those first few pages

[EmantheSpursFan]

Exactly! I’m happy for Derrick White proving a lot of us wrong and earning his pay day!

[timvp]

Yikes, tbh.

[J_Paco]

Semi Ojeleye and Frank Mason III will torch this poor guy for 4 years until he's gone to China with Fathead

God damn it Buford. He was a solid 2nd rnd pick, NOT first dipshit


Went with a guard and passed on Hart, Frank Jackson, Mason, and Evans. I hope they see something we all don't.

Thanks for bumping this thread. These dumb ass takes have aged like day old milk.:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

Once again proving why Pop, R.C. and company are in the business of acquiring and developing talent while the dumbass trolls on ST aren't. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ismael-robert]

Yep why i just keep scrolling soon as i see someone here trying to analyze anything and complaining spurs dont kno wat they're doin

[Sugus]

Typical Spurs. He'll never see the court. He has no game. Another untradeable asset. RC stockpiling them like Good n' Plenty's.


Its a FO thinks theyre smarter than all the scouts combined thing


He's old and slow. The opposite of what we need.

Good job, PATFO.


Another wasted pick


I think they blew this pick, tbh.

:lmao :rollin Thanks for the bump. Some top of the crop ST takes on here, tbh. Where's all my guys? Y'all own our little fathead an apology or two, tbh. And a rational take, for good measure:


I'll give him a shot. The last three drafts haven't been bad. Kyle Anderson, Dejounte Murray, this dude. They're not bad picks at #29 especially given the shitty talent coming out of the NCAA and International levels right now.

[Dejounte]

Some toxic ass mother fuckers in the beginning of this thread who I'm glad no longer post here

[exstatic]

Some toxic ass mother fuckers in the beginning of this thread who I'm glad no longer post here

The old and slow one was pure gold, since he had great combine numbers.

[Chinook]

I was annoyed with the pick because I really wanted SA to get a big. I came around pretty quickly when RC said they thought White still had athletic upside. I had little doubt about his play-style or defense. I just didn't know if he was a low-ceiling guy like Norris Cole. Hearing he had upside made me think he'd be a good player, though perhaps still not to the point that he'd justify picking him over a big. To that end, the Spurs might not have accepted Poeltl as part of the Leonard package had they taken a center (that came over) at any point between 2015-2017. Simply them doing that could've meant OG or Siakam as a Spur, or maybe a completely different history for the team.

[phxspurfan]

Hart was the clear pick here tbh. He was and still is Spurs material, character wise. He hasnt developed to his full potential as a 3-D player since he was on the L:lolLkers and now whatever team (Nola?). But on paper he was a better fit, especially seeing as how Kawhi and Green were on their way out.

I wanted Hart and Jalen Brunson both on this team from these drafts. Also Brogdon. All Spurs type players. High IQ, high motor, high character.

[tim_duncan_fan]

:lmao :rollin Thanks for the bump. Some top of the crop ST takes on here, tbh. Where's all my guys? Y'all own our little fathead an apology or two, tbh. And a rational take, for good measure:


The old and slow one was pure gold, since he had great combine numbers.
When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. :oops

He IS old though lmao

[Dejounte]

Another example of fans overrating prospects because they're younger

Let this be (another) lesson

[exstatic]

Another example of fans overrating prospects because they're younger

Let this be (another) lesson

White was a weird case. As a HS senior he was like 5’8”. He was a late bloomer, both in height and athleticism. Not many 22YO still have athletic upside.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I like this kid a lot.

There's always a reasonable thinker in every group.

[Atl Spur]

Classic dudes in here!!! Lol.

[spurraider21]

goodbye patty
if only

[BackHome]

I honestly think White can and will get much better but two things have to happen - He has to remain healthy take care of those feet White!! And the second thing is that he has to have primary ball handling duties Pop really should name him our starting PG but he won’t because of Murray. For him to be primary ball handler DEROZZ has to let him or DEROZZ has to be traded.

I remember in one stretch were DEROZZ missed a week or two due to an injury he straight out balled and was like a new player. Not blaming DEROZZ I just think that White still believes he is not in the head of the line he needs to start acting like an Alpha and call his own numbers.

[Mr. Body]

Hart was the clear pick here tbh. He was and still is Spurs material, character wise. He hasnt developed to his full potential as a 3-D player since he was on the L:lolLkers and now whatever team (Nola?). But on paper he was a better fit, especially seeing as how Kawhi and Green were on their way out.

I wanted Hart and Jalen Brunson both on this team from these drafts. Also Brogdon. All Spurs type players. High IQ, high motor, high character.

Derrick White is way better than Josh Hart though.

[phxspurfan]

Derrick White is way better than Josh Hart though.

Of course, but the argument is Hart at the time was a better fit. And since this is speculation about 3-4 years ago I also say we would have developed Hart better than the Fakers did. And he would be a passable 3-D player versus another PG on our roster.

[Mugen]

Of course, but the argument is Hart at the time was a better fit. And since this is speculation about 3-4 years ago I also say we would have developed Hart better than the Fakers did. And he would be a passable 3-D player versus another PG on our roster.

What a weird hill to die on considering White is currently the best player on the team :lol

[Mr. Body]

Of course, but the argument is Hart at the time was a better fit. And since this is speculation about 3-4 years ago I also say we would have developed Hart better than the Fakers did. And he would be a passable 3-D player versus another PG on our roster.

Until we drafted Tre Jones, Derrick White was literally the only PG player on the roster.

[timvp]

Of course, but the argument is Hart at the time was a better fit. And since this is speculation about 3-4 years ago I also say we would have developed Hart better than the Fakers did. And he would be a passable 3-D player versus another PG on our roster.

https://i.imgur.com/vGAJjiB.gif

[phxspurfan]

What a weird hill to die on considering White is currently the best player on the team :lol

ngl it is awkward defending some shit I posted in 2017 :lol but yeah I def remember feeling like Hart was the pick. But then again when we picked GH3 I was like everyone else WTF is that. Also when we picked Beno I remember my friend and I laughing "we picked a guy named Beano ROFL"

Only picks I recall being all in on were Murray, Blair, and maybe Splitter.

[phxspurfan]

Until we drafted Tre Jones, Derrick White was literally the only PG player on the roster.

Sure, pass first natural PG. But guys who are PG sized or that we try to turn into PGs?

It's ok tho, we will be able to have this debate again next year when PATFO drafts another PG.

[BackHome]

Yo Timvp that vid you posted above had me rolling man.....could not happen to a better person..:lol

[B1gduff]

Semi Ojeleye and Frank Mason III will torch this poor guy for 4 years until he's gone to China with Fathead

God damn it Buford. He was a solid 2nd rnd pick, NOT first dipshit

Totally agreed. So, are Ojeleye ans Mason III still in the league?

[bluebellmaniac]

Sure, pass first natural PG. But guys who are PG sized or that we try to turn into PGs?

It's ok tho, we will be able to have this debate again next year when PATFO drafts another PG.

You're going to argue if they get Cade?

[RC_Drunkford]

Some toxic ass mother fuckers in the beginning of this thread who I'm glad no longer post here

About 3 weeks ago you hated Devin Vassell :lmao

[Dejounte]

About 3 weeks ago you hated Devin Vassell :lmao

Wasn't saying they were toxic because of their take on Derrick. Rather, how much trolls used to be on this site with 10 alts at a time

[Dejounte]

Think Rummmpd and multiply him by 30. That's how many idiots used to post here.

[RC_Drunkford]

I was actually mad that Pop sent him to the G-League. He only played 1 NBA game that year and scored 16 points against the Warriors. The team could’ve really needed him
that season when nephew decided to sit out and Parker was injured for half the season.

[phxspurfan]

About 3 weeks ago you hated Devin Vassell :lmao

This. Bunch of ST "Experts" wanted some (male) named Precious. Or some Patrick McBustface.

[Dejounte]

This. Bunch of ST "Experts" wanted some (male) named Precious. Or some Patrick McBustface.

But you're the expert who thinks Hart would've been better than White lmfao

[tonight...you]

https://i.imgur.com/vGAJjiB.gif
gif=amazing

[exstatic]

I was actually mad that Pop sent him to the G-League. He only played 1 NBA game that year and scored 16 points against the Warriors. The team could’ve really needed him
that season when nephew decided to sit out and Parker was injured for half the season.
He played 17 games, but limited minutes, and I thought he was the second best guard on the roster, after Manu.

[RC_Drunkford]

He played 17 games, but limited minutes, and I thought he was the second best guard on the roster, after Manu.

They were all garbage time. Against the Dubs Pop started him I think. It was the only game where he got real NBA minutes and he looked ready from jump. No reason to spend a whole year in the G-League

[tim_duncan_fan]

Real talk though?

Are we expecting Derrick to be the guy where we hand him the ball and say "go get us a bucket?"

I'm afraid it will still fall to DeMar in terms of getting a tough basket and closing for us.

[RC_Drunkford]

Real talk though?

Are we expecting Derrick to be the guy where we hand him the ball and say "go get us a bucket?"

I'm afraid it will still fall to DeMar in terms of getting a tough basket and closing for us.

No you give him the ball to make the right play. He will either score or dish out to an open shooter. I take that any day

[DAF86]

If Forbes is ahead of White on the rotation to start the season, I'm gonna lose my shit. :lol

And that's how I lost my shit. Now I can't find my shit. Did anybody see my shit anywhere?

The worst part is that I added the smiley face because I probably thought Pop wouldn't be so retarded to actually have Forbes over White, but I guess he proved me wrong.

[Sugus]

This. Bunch of ST "Experts" wanted some (male) named Precious. Or some Patrick McBustface.

Can anyone help grandpa over here get back to the retirement home? He's looking a bit lost...

[Mugen]

I was actually mad that Pop sent him to the G-League. He only played 1 NBA game that year and scored 16 points against the Warriors. The team could’ve really needed him
that season when nephew decided to sit out and Parker was injured for half the season.

"He wasn't ready, wouldn't be fair"

Even though Derrick was old AF when he came into the league :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

We’re now arguing they didn’t know exactly how to develop White after we all didn’t like the pick and were proven wrong? He’s said the season in the d-league helped him a lot and he’s certainly enjoyed leading that team to the d-league title.

[Dejounte]

We’re now arguing they didn’t know exactly how to develop White after we all didn’t like the pick and were proven wrong? He’s said the season in the d-league helped him a lot and he’s certainly enjoyed leading that team to the d-league title.https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1341798601450803206?s=19

It's because they think they're smarter than actual coaches.

[PhantomDashCam]

Hadn't seen this posted yet. Interview takes place with Derrick just after his season ending injury.

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/nba-san-antonio-spurs-derrick-white-dejounte-murray-gregg-popovich-colorado-buffaloes


"I wouldn't say [there’s] pressure. You just want to go out there and compete,” White said. “You're aware of the history and all that, but just going out there, competing, playing the game you love. San Antonio fans are great, so you want to do well for them... I mean, basketball as a whole is changing, so you kinda have to change with the times, and we're no different. So it's just exciting that this is the way that basketball is going. It's been entertaining and it's fun to play.


“I'm just blessed to be a part of this organization. You kinda see the day-to-day, what goes into it. Just their great history, going back from '99 to where we are now. So I'm thankful to be a part of this organization and learning from Coach Pop, probably the greatest coach of all-time. So, it's been great.”

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Hopefully Derrick gets and stays healthy for the duration of his contract or time here with our Spurs. He is a really solid player and very important to this team, I look forward to him and Murray playing together next season.

[EricB]

Whew, missed this thread draft night. Lotta L’s. Lotta lotta L’s.

[PrimeMinister]

Cj Mccollum came out of Lehigh as a senior and he's 6'4"

Wine.

[ace3g]

Hope his ankle has healed

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1402018098367053824

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Hope his ankle has healed

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1402018098367053824

*Tears knee ligament rounding second base*

[rjv]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1341798601450803206?s=19

It's because they think they're smarter than actual coaches.

maybe one (or a couple) of them coached their 9 year old's son to a YMCA league title.

[John B]

Thanks for the memories Derrick


https://youtu.be/1X1XHbcdIq4

https://youtu.be/WmNP9n-CLXs

[poopbox]

It had to be done but I'm going to miss this 6 head mofo :depressed

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

He will help Boston a lot.

[slick'81]

He will help Boston a lot.

hope not:lol get that pick higher

[emanueldavidginobili]

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Wow, and Young and Primo are 13th and 12th in minutes played this season.

[Mr. Body]

Watching him play with the Celtics now. Man, it must suck to play for them. Barely no passing, guys just tunnel vision all the time.

[slick'81]

Watching him play with the Celtics now. Man, it must suck to play for them. Barely no passing, guys just tunnel vision all the time.


gonna suck being third fiddle behind tatum/brown

[bdictjames]

gonna suck being third fiddle behind tatum/brown
White just had something like 15 points and 6 assists with having the highest +/- of the team.

And this was against the Nuggets. I've been frequenting Celtics boards and they love this guy already.

I don't think Derrick has that much ego to care tbh, and that's what made him Spurs material. Gonna miss him out there but hopefully he helps his new team.

[daslicer]

White just had something like 15 points and 6 assists with having the highest +/- of the team.

And this was against the Nuggets. I've been frequenting Celtics boards and they love this guy already.

I don't think Derrick has that much ego to care tbh, and that's what made him Spurs material. Gonna miss him out there but hopefully he helps his new team.

Agreed. At worst he will still get the same numbers he did with the Spurs with the Celtics. i don't see him caring about Tatum and Brown getting most of the shots.

[Mr. Body]

White just had something like 15 points and 6 assists with having the highest +/- of the team.

And this was against the Nuggets. I've been frequenting Celtics boards and they love this guy already.

I don't think Derrick has that much ego to care tbh, and that's what made him Spurs material. Gonna miss him out there but hopefully he helps his new team.

It's not a mater of ego, it's a matter of how Tatum and Brown play the game. I don't think their kindergarten coaches ever told them passing is a good thing.

[XDT76]

Agreed. At worst he will still get the same numbers he did with the Spurs with the Celtics. i don't see him caring about Tatum and Brown getting most of the shots.


DW's character is what has made him a great glue guy but not lead player.

[daslicer]

DW's character is what has made him a great glue guy but not lead player.

He's suitable to be a good third or fourth option.

[adonis827]

Oh man Boston got a pretty good player. Looks like DWhite would have a 6th man role and leading Boston's bench like Manu did for the Spurs for a long time.

I am not sure we can find another DWhite with Boston's first round pick but hopefully we got something from Josh Rich and Langford.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I liked White, and I hate to see him go. He was a victim of a poorly constructed roster, and I think he'll be solid in Boston.

But I hope this is the end of the Spurs' love affair with players who have funny-shaped heads.

[siraulo23]

White played a good game in his debut

He played the entire 4th quarter too

[John B]

Celtics playing great in his Celtics debut, even closing the game. I wish him well


https://youtu.be/7J2K525TPys

[John B]

I think forcing White to play a SG, and ultimately a 2nd fiddle to Murray tamed him as he started to defer too much, no longer that aggressive rookie he was before. Tonight, he played as a PG in the 2nd unit, and even got to close the game for them. I’m happy for him, and wish him continued good health, and ultimately shine in his new team. The Celtic fans welcomed him and rooted him tonight. Way to go Derrick!

[cjw]

Great article in The Athletic on him (sorry for paywall, sharing an excerpt). Having a huge impact on Boston’s success:

https://theathletic.com/4270359/2023/03/03/celtics-derrick-white-analytics-dad/?source=user_shared_article

”Though the traditional box score will leave no sign of White’s impact on the play, the NBA does have a statistical category that will reward him. Later on, his father, Richard — a “stat nerd,” according to his son — will scan the league’s defensive tracking data to monitor the game’s contested shots and other hustle metrics.It’s perfect, really, that White’s dad owns such an appreciation for the numbers that go deeper than points, rebounds and assists. Though Derrick has never been one of the NBA’s leading scorers, his impact has always been seen more clearly in advanced statistics. In this case, a math wiz raised a darling of modern basketball analytics.
“People always say, ‘Oh yeah, the eye test,’” says Richard. “Well, the eye test is biased. Because if you like a person, no matter what they do, you can’t talk them out of it. So, the numbers are the numbers. The results are the results.”

This season, the numbers rank White as one of the most impactful players on one of the NBA’s best teams. The Celtics (https://theathletic.com/nba/team/celtics/) have outscored opponents by 342 total points during his playing time, putting him at sixth in the league in overall plus/minus. Of course, that is dictated largely by team success, which is why the top-six solely includes players from the Nuggets (https://theathletic.com/nba/team/nuggets/)and Celtics. Still, Boston has been about an average team this season with White on the bench. When he’s on the court, the Celtics have blasted opponents by 10.5 points per 100 possessions. Their offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency have both jumped significantly with White in the lineup.”

[KingKev]

I think forcing White to play a SG, and ultimately a 2nd fiddle to Murray tamed him as he started to defer too much, no longer that aggressive rookie he was before. Tonight, he played as a PG in the 2nd unit, and even got to close the game for them. I’m happy for him, and wish him continued good health, and ultimately shine in his new team. The Celtic fans welcomed him and rooted him tonight. Way to go Derrick!

White had a million chances to be an “alpha” as you would describe it and he failed every damn time. Brick after brick to the point his 3pt shot would go un-guarded. Everytime Murray was down and his name was called he failed. He’s in a great situation now but similar to Keldon and Vassell he is a glue guy. Nothing more.

[Dex]

Congrats to Fivehead on making the All-Defense team!

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That's two #29 picks (Murray and White) who the Spurs helped form into All-Defense level players

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Congrats to Fivehead on making the All-Defense team!

1655996269074972713

That's two #29 picks (Murray and White) who the Spurs helped form into All-Defense level players

That's awesome for Derrick. Celtic fans think a lot of him, and he's played great for them. Congrats!

[CGD]

Well deserved. Hes outplayed Smart on that team, who is looking more and more like the odd man out there.

[exstatic]

Well deserved. Hes outplayed Smart on that team, who is looking more and more like the odd man out there.

Unfortunately, Boston is probably stuck with him, since he has 3 more years on his deal.

[Ocotillo]

Interesting how a player gets noticed when they are on a winning team. Well done DWhite!

[John B]

Congrats Derrick. Man outplaying Marcus Smart for the defensive guard, and on a winning team.

[slick'81]

Lets hope derrick learned from his disastrous final's appearance last season

[exstatic]

Lets hope derrick learned from his disastrous final's appearance last season

It seems like he’s really adjusted and fit in this year, even playing Marcus Smart off the floor. He only had two months with Boston last year before the playoffs.

[FkLA]

Congrats to my boy.

I've been singing his defensive praises forever. He didn't magically improve, he's always been this amazing. Big market + title contender helped him finally get the recognition he always deserved.

[rascal]

White is struggling in this series against Philadelphia so far. That's one reason Boston is down.

[wildbill2u]

Derrick's entry into the NBA and his subsequent career have all the earmarks of a feel-good story for anyone who loves basketball and especially for kids who hope to persevere and wind up in the big leagues some day. The mere fact that he's in the playoffs with a team that has a chance to win it all is great IMHO>

Go get that ring Derrick. Spurs fans are with you.

[Ariel]

I don't like the thought of seeing him and White on the floor at the same time.

You just know they'll trap each other in an unstable orbit, circling ever faster until Anderson's tidally locked cranium crashes into White's.
White was obviously a great pick. Nonetheless, this post is pure genius :lol

[cd98]

What a play...Spurs can pick him, even if they traded him. The Celtics just got an absolute return in the trade.

[BatManu20]

Derrick! Legend!

[FkLA]

My son :cry

[Russ]

Take that, Ray Allen.

:flag:

[td4mvp2k]

should of been a spurs lifer

[Obstructed_View]

He had so many clutch plays in that game. Way to go, Derrick.

[Mr. Body]

I hate the Celtics but White is awesome.

[CGD]

I hate the Celtics but White is awesome.

Wow, Derrick! Really saving these boys’ bacon.

Also, why the hell is Smart taking the season savings shot at the end?!?

[eDizzle20]

Great to see for D-White! His age didn’t allow for him to be part of the Spurs future plans, but still rooting for him.

[scott]

Trade made perfect sense at the time, but boy did the Celtics rob us in hindsight.

[lefty20]

Trade made perfect sense at the time, but boy did the Celtics rob us in hindsight.

Not really doe. White staying = no Wemby.

I'd say that the trade was a win-win, tbh.

[CGD]

Trade made perfect sense at the time, but boy did the Celtics rob us in hindsight.

Nah, we got all those SRPs for Josh!

[Extra Stout]

Trade made perfect sense at the time, but boy did the Celtics rob us in hindsight.
You can’t evaluate the trade in full until you know whether or not Blake Wesley pans out.

[exstatic]

You can’t evaluate the trade in full until you know whether or not Blake Wesley pans out.

Or what happens with the 28 swap.

[Chinook]

Trade made perfect sense at the time, but boy did the Celtics rob us in hindsight.

I think it was an okay trade, but it would be really nice if Wesley figure it out. I would be pretty happy about having White right now with this team plus Wemby, but I'm not sure the Spurs would've been able to draft Wemby had White stayed on board.

[Mr. Body]

Wow, Derrick! Really saving these boys’ bacon.

Also, why the hell is Smart taking the season savings shot at the end?!?

Tatum was the target but he was covered. Smart was coming to just get something up.