Spurs Select G Derrick White in the 2017 NBA Draft (29th Overall)

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, I'd say the Celtics won the trade, but the Spurs wanted to get off White's salary and he wasn't on the right timeline. Wesley was a decent swing and may pan out.

[scott]

Still okay with the Spurs making that trade (though White would be PERFECT for this team with Wemby coming in) - my comment about Boston robbing us is more from the Celtics perspective.

And in many ways, I hope the Celtics getting DWhite for Josh Richardson, Romeo Langford, a late FRP and a swap provides some illustration at what we might be able to do when this team starts competing to add high end role players to the team.

Happy for Derrick.

[cd98]

Wesley is young and raw. We won’t know how truly good he is for two years. Right now it’s just looking for improvement.

[GB20]

White has been the MVP for the last three game in this round.

[Mr. Body]

Oh, forgot Richardson came as well. Eh, it really was a pretty fair trade.

[cjw]

That’s the least a former Spur can do in game 6 in Miami

[Millennial_Messiah]

That’s the least a former Spur can do in game 6 in Miami

fuck.

I wanted Miami to win the series.

[GAustex]

White makes winning plays
Usually defense
A baller

[spurraider21]

Yeah, I'd say the Celtics won the trade, but the Spurs wanted to get off White's salary and he wasn't on the right timeline. Wesley was a decent swing and may pan out.
Spurs had all the cap space in the world. Salary had nothing to do with it.

they were better off getting picks than holding onto a 27yo good 4th option guard.

one of those picks became Wesley so how he develops matters quite a bit before evaluating

[Spursfanfromafar]

Our boy had a bit of Manu in him today. Wow!

[Mr. Body]

Spurs had all the cap space in the world. Salary had nothing to do with it.

they were better off getting picks than holding onto a 27yo good 4th option guard.

one of those picks became Wesley so how he develops matters quite a bit before evaluating

Of course salary had to do with it. They just gave him a well-deserved extension and he wasn't in the plans. That was the time to move him on. They don't want to pay players who don't fit.

[spurraider21]

Of course salary had to do with it. They just gave him a well-deserved extension and he wasn't in the plans. That was the time to move him on. They don't want to pay players who don't fit.
They paid richardson and Langford as much as they were paying white

[tmtcsc]

Don't miss him one bit. It was time for him to be gone. He made big plays & showed flashes of being really good here and there, but in the long run, he was never going to be what the Spurs needed. The only thing consistent about White was his inconsistency. He's in a great situation in Boston. He can play his game while players like Tatum and Brown take the brunt of criticism for the team's shortfalls. If he makes a big play (like tonight), people will love him. If he doesn't, well, no one expected him to do so anyways.

[kht]

The haul we got for him was ass. wtf we gonna do with a late pick, a swap which would happen because we're worst than him and richardson?

[daslicer]

Don't miss him one bit. It was time for him to be gone. He made big plays & showed flashes of being really good here and there, but in the long run, he was never going to be what the Spurs needed. The only thing consistent about White was his inconsistency. He's in a great situation in Boston. He can play his game while players like Tatum and Brown take the brunt of criticism for the team's shortfalls. If he makes a big play (like tonight), people will love him. If he doesn't, well, no one expected him to do so anyways.

Agreed he's an elite role player that would have been good on the Duncan Spurs teams or the Kawhi Spurs from '15-'17. Spurs didn't have the team going forward after '17 in which he was going to be part of the long-term process of rebuilding.

[MarCowMar]

Nothing but happy for White.

Hopefully seeing this trade work out well for Boston will make teams willing trade partners with us in the Wemby era.

[Spursfanfromafar]

The players who played for the Spurs from 2017-22 were all good but not great and over-performed relative to expectations/ draft position. White, Poeltl, Murray, Anderson (for a couple of seasons)..in particular. They had to leave for the Spurs to swing for the Wemby fence but they gave us a good team to root for. They played the right way and there were phases (White in the Bubble, Murray becoming an all-star and Poeltl being Uber efficient, Anderson becoming a defensively strong player) where their development made the Spurs worth rooting for. It's heartening to see White do what he can do best as a Celtic therefore.

[Big Empty]

Good for Derrick! It was a good trade for both teams i hope he gets a ring

[rankingtear]

The haul we got for him was ass. wtf we gonna do with a late pick, a swap which would happen because we're worst than him and richardson?

Probably get another D-White.

[Budkin]

Take that, Ray Allen.

:flag:

First thing I thought of. Heat fans are going to feel some pain for a long time.

[Fireball]

Just watched game 6 ... congrats Derrick on that game winner. Glad Miami did not win this on three free throws.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I was rooting for a Miami win but ended up jumping out of my seat when Derrick scored that game winner. So happy for him.

The trade was fair, it was part of a chain of moves that got us Wemby. Leave it be lads.

[tim_duncan_fan]

First thing I thought of. Heat fans are going to feel some pain for a long time.

That was a legit (and very stupid) foul though. I wish refs would do less context judging and call rules as they are all the time.

Derrick White saved Horford's life.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Proud of Derrick. He was always a favorite of mine while on the squad. I’m not surprised he has been so good for Boston and doing big things

[John B]

Derrick will be a Celtic lifer after that. Whattaway to save the season.

[tbdog]

Was amazing to see. Just amazing. History stuff.

[Gagnrath]

Derrick will be a Celtic lifer after that. Whattaway to save the season.


If he wants it and the Celtics are a good organization to be associated with as a part of the pantheon even a role. I don't think that he is solidly there unless the Cs get 5 more Ws this year but if they do..... Especially if he shows out in any then yes he gets that status. This is going to be interesting for jaylen Brown and his contract, it's pretty well established with everyone Celtics and media that Tatum is number one and everyone knows Brown is number two. He's going to not be happy with that, and Tatum won't be thrilled if Brown gets money to the extent that the roster is being held back, Tatum can't get his. I think Brown gets a big money extension, and a new deal, but I also think that during that extension the Celtics move Brown for New pieces.

[InRareForm]

https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/2/11/22929311/sorry-folks-derrick-white-trade-disaster-josh-richardson-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-romeo-langford

Celtics blogger once said trade was a disaster

[exstatic]

https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/2/11/22929311/sorry-folks-derrick-white-trade-disaster-josh-richardson-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-romeo-langford

Celtics blogger once said trade was a disaster

That didn’t age well. :rollin

[vander]

man, I really hate that Derrick White did that. I loved him as a Spur, and I was happy that he was having some success with Boston, but read the fucking room dude.
what a horrible thing to do to basketball fans.

[Dejounte]

Good players making good plays. Why is anyone surprised? If/when we trade off players like Keldon or Vassell, those guys will be doing the same thing too. Top tier players like Tatum, Brown (soon Wemby) relieve great role players like White from doing the heavy lifting to allow them to do special things like this.

I will say the same thing I’ve said a thousand times: a team only needs to be top 2 or 3 heavy (with no ego on each and a proper system in place) to be successful. Everything else falls in place easily.

[Ice009]

That was a legit (and very stupid) foul though. I wish refs would do less context judging and call rules as they are all the time.

Derrick White saved Horford's life.

What foul are you referring to?

Unbelievable win from the Celtics. Love seeing Miami fans at home feeling what Spurs fans felt. Manu was also fouled at the end of that game and Ray Allen may have also travelled. I feel bad for Jimmy Butler, but I don't feel the least bit bad for any Miami fans.

[JPB]

Spoelstra should have left Duncan on the floor for the rebound tbh.

[GAustex]

I see what you did there

[superbigtime]

Good for D White. Happy for him.

[Dverde]

Only would have been better if he went over to Spo and said Coach Pop sends his regards. I didn’t come up with that, saw it posted somewhere :lol

[Ariel]

What foul are you referring to?

Unbelievable win from the Celtics. Love seeing Miami fans at home feeling what Spurs fans felt. Manu was also fouled at the end of that game and Ray Allen may have also travelled. I feel bad for Jimmy Butler, but I don't feel the least bit bad for any Miami fans.
This one I assume: https://youtu.be/U-b6nOWZm2A?t=65

[Mugen]

:lmao Time is a flat circle, eat it Miami

[R. DeMurre]

I'm happy for Derrick. He was my favorite Spur during the down years, and I'm glad he's thriving on a playoff team. The goal now is for the Spurs to try and find a few more Derrick White types to surround Wembanyama in the the next few years.

[SpursFan86]

:lmao Time is a flat circle, eat it Miami

Yeah as much as I dislike Boston, Miami isn’t getting any sympathy from me here…still wasn’t bad as what happened to us.

[Seventyniner]

Still okay with the Spurs making that trade (though White would be PERFECT for this team with Wemby coming in) - my comment about Boston robbing us is more from the Celtics perspective.

And in many ways, I hope the Celtics getting DWhite for Josh Richardson, Romeo Langford, a late FRP and a swap provides some illustration at what we might be able to do when this team starts competing to add high end role players to the team.

Happy for Derrick.

Hopefully the Spurs will soon be in a position to make a deal like that from the other side.

[wildbill2u]

Love that Derrick has a chance for a ring. He already has established legendary status in Boston with that play and will never have to buy another drink anywhere in Beantown.

[Ariel]

I was rooting for a Miami win but ended up jumping out of my seat when Derrick scored that game winner. So happy for him.

The trade was fair, it was part of a chain of moves that got us Wemby. Leave it be lads.
Yeah, same here. I don't particularly like either team, but preferred Miami and was rooting for Derrick at the same time. So if Boston won, that was the perfect way to do so as far as I'm concerned. It was probably the most painful move of them all, but it had to be done, otherwise we'd still be stuck. Also I wouldn't be shocked if Derrick returns to the Spurs after his deal with Boston expires.

[Obstructed_View]

They put time on the clock after the Jimmy Butler foul didn't they? Seemed like a useless challenge by Boston, but it literally saved their season.

[tim_duncan_fan]

What foul are you referring to?

Unbelievable win from the Celtics. Love seeing Miami fans at home feeling what Spurs fans felt. Manu was also fouled at the end of that game and Ray Allen may have also travelled. I feel bad for Jimmy Butler, but I don't feel the least bit bad for any Miami fans.

Ah. I'd quoted the wrong post. Someone said they were glad Miami didn't win on free throws and I was saying that would have been totally legit.

[DAF86]

Was that the clutchest bucket in NBA history?

[kobyz]

The shot that form a dynasty, feel like Celtics are gonna roll with that miracle for a 3peat...

[talkspurs]

Is Boston going to be the first team to come back from 0-3?

[rascal]

Yeah, same here. I don't particularly like either team, but preferred Miami and was rooting for Derrick at the same time. So if Boston won, that was the perfect way to do so as far as I'm concerned. It was probably the most painful move of them all, but it had to be done, otherwise we'd still be stuck. Also I wouldn't be shocked if Derrick returns to the Spurs after his deal with Boston expires.

Doubt he comes back. He's settled in Boston and they like him there.

[DAF86]

The shot that form a dynasty, feel like Celtics are gonna roll with that miracle for a 3peat...

Nah, Tatum and Brown aren't that.

[gilmor2002]

That was a legit (and very stupid) foul though. I wish refs would do less context judging and call rules as they are all the time.

Derrick White saved Horford's life.

Halford shouldn't even play on the offensive end.. his shot selection is so bad..

[kobyz]

Nah, Tatum and Brown aren't that.

They two top ten players that just entering their prime

[taps]

Derrick will be a Celtic lifer after that. Whattaway to save the season.

Gerald Henderson was traded a couple of months after saving the championship.

[DAF86]

They two top ten players that just entering their prime

Tatum is top 10, Brown isn't. But the real problem with them is that they are very poor playmakers for star players. That's why the Celtics offense looks so shit so often. If their shot isn't falling, they don't have anyone that can generate organic offense.

[kobyz]

Tatum is top 10, Brown isn't. But the real problem with them is that they are very poor playmakers for star players. That's why the Celtics offense looks so shit so often. If their shot isn't falling, they don't have anyone that can generate organic offense.

Very not true about tatum, and also Brown is solid and keep improving... And you can see that in those games when Tatum start 1 from 12 and Celtics still in the game... If they winning it all this year and getting that championship confident it will be hard to stop them to win couple more as they have two superstars not even starting their prime, and having that helping crew attached with great contracts

[RC_Drunkford]

As the Feb. 9 trade deadline approached, the Celtics zeroed in on White — “Boston was desperate to find a guy like him,” one Western Conference executive said — but the Spurs, league sources said, had no interest in moving him. White had become beloved in the organization, a key part of its culture. When White held his wedding in Colorado, several members of the Spurs’ front office attended and White thanked his coaches for helping develop him. “Derrick was a guy that everybody in the league wanted,” the Western Conference executive said. “The Celtics were just persistent.” Boston came in heavy, offering Romeo Langford and Josh Richardson, a first-round pick in the 2022 draft and a 2028 first-round pick swap. (https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/37746432/the-most-underrated-player-league-how-celtics-star-derrick-white-ascended-game-6-savior) It was the sort of offer the Spurs couldn’t refuse, but, sources said, the Spurs also wanted to ensure they were sending White to a good situation, to a team that was headed in the right direction.
19 hours ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/2091317/) – via Baxter Holmes @ ESPN

(https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/37746432/the-most-underrated-player-league-how-celtics-star-derrick-white-ascended-game-6-savior)

[Ice009]

Gerald Henderson was traded a couple of months after saving the championship.

Who was he playing for when he did this? I don't remember. What were the teams? What round of the playoffs?

[Joseph Kony]

hope Spurs go after him when he is a FA again tbh

[DAF86]

Very not true about tatum, and also Brown is solid and keep improving... And you can see that in those games when Tatum start 1 from 12 and Celtics still in the game... If they winning it all this year and getting that championship confident it will be hard to stop them to win couple more as they have two superstars not even starting their prime, and having that helping crew attached with great contracts

Tatum has a putrid assist to turnover ratio. Of course the idea is that he will keep improving on that as he becomes older, but still, efficient playmaking isn't something that comes naturally to him. Pair that with Brown, who's even worse on that regard, and I don't see the Celtics becoming a dynasty unless they add a real playmaker or those two improve a lot on that area.

[Mr. Body]

Tatum has a putrid assist to turnover ratio. Of course the idea is that he will keep improving on that as he becomes older, but still, efficient playmaking isn't something that comes naturally to him. Pair that with Brown, who's even worse on that regard, and I don't see the Celtics becoming a dynasty unless they add a real playmaker or those two improve a lot on that area.

Tatum really hasn't improved his playmaking at all for several years. Some turnovers come from being a questionable ballhandler. Boston is hemmed in by their success, he and Brown are so good in isolation they don't learn to do anything else.

[Seventyniner]

hope Spurs go after him when he is a FA again tbh

If Boston re-signs Brown for a huge amount, they probably won't be able to afford to keep White in 2025 unless they are either willing to make White the 3rd highest paid player on the team or go past the second apron.

[FkLA]

:worthy:

[Big Empty]

White playing solid D and playing the role!

[Mr. Body]

He's the only Celtic that hasn't shriveled like a raisin.

[td4mvp2k]

omg the guy is single handed saving the C's season

[Mugen]

DWhite can't win with these cats tbh.

[BatManu20]

Jaylen Brown is nowhere near a Max Player. Boston is likely going to have to pay him like one, and it’s going to cripple their franchise. Because this dude shrivels up in EVERY big game it seems. He’s also a horrendous defender with a low bball IQ.

[Mr. Body]

Jaylen Brown is nowhere near a Max Player. Boston is likely going to have to pay him like one, and it’s going to cripple their franchise. Because this dude shrivels up in EVERY big game it seems. He’s also a horrendous defender with a low bball IQ.

Yet Boston fans think they'll supermax him and the team will be great, no problems.

[Degoat]

Jaylen Brown is nowhere near a Max Player. Boston is likely going to have to pay him like one, and it’s going to cripple their franchise. Because this dude shrivels up in EVERY big game it seems. He’s also a horrendous defender with a low bball IQ.

He always stops his dribble, everytime he drives it to the rim! Also Spolestra out coach the C’s coach big time in this game

[Mugen]

I'd take that Portland deal of #3 and Simons for Jaylen Brown if I was Boston tbh, supermaxing this dude is gonna kill them.

[Ariel]

I'd take that Portland deal of #3 and Simons for Jaylen Brown if I was Boston tbh, supermaxing this dude is gonna kill them.
I'll try Mikal Bridges first, but yeah, I think that ship has sailed. Trading Jaylen Brown is the obvious move for Boston.

[CGD]

Man, feel bad for Derrick. The Game 6 heroics will soon be forgotten.

Boston is so disappointing.

[TD 21]

I'd take that Portland deal of #3 and Simons for Jaylen Brown if I was Boston tbh, supermaxing this dude is gonna kill them.

One of the most overrated players in the league.

I'd do the same, except Little would have to be added to make it work financially. Maybe the Celtics would have to add minor future draft capital. I'd guess they go Amen Thompson over Henderson.

[rascal]

One of the most overrated players in the league.

I'd do the same, except Little would have to be added to make it work financially. Maybe the Celtics would have to add minor future draft capital. I'd guess they go Amen Thompson over Henderson.

Doubt Portland would be interested in that.

[HemisfairArena]

White's 15 minutes of fame is over,,,,

[GAustex]

I suspect he hurt his foot/feet. He did not finish the game.

[TD 21]

Actually, if they wait to officially announce it until free agency begins and the 3rd pick can officially sign, Little doesn't have to be in it, but I could see him and Pritchard being involved anyway.


Doubt Portland would be interested in that.

They're desperate for a star, have been after a wing one for a while and can't do better.

[kobyz]

Jaylen Brown would be perfect number 2 to Wemby for the future, if i'm the front office i'm going hard after him... Keldon and 3 first for him!

[RC_Drunkford]

Jaylen Brown would be perfect number 2 to Wemby for the future, if i'm the front office i'm going hard after him... Keldon and 3 first for him!

I'd try to get him too, but 3 firsts? The guy got 1 year left on his contract. They could just try to get him in free agency

[Dejounte]

Jaylen has Irving type tendencies. Pass

[Dverde]

Boston going to still give Brown the bag. Grant Williams is the Celtic that will probably leave this year.

[DAF86]

Jaylen Brown would be perfect number 2 to Wemby for the future, if i'm the front office i'm going hard after him... Keldon and 3 first for him!

What? Dude, you're severely overrating Brown. You were talking dynasty a day ago and look what happened. He isn't worth a nice young player and 3 first round picks. Not even close.

[montgod]

Jaylen has Irving type tendencies. Pass

I know what you're implying but I don't think he's a KI type of player off the floor. Although, he's not a KI player on the floor either. He really choked up and showed himself to be more of a #2 type of player who does better in the reg season vs playoffs. Now, he could improve, he's young enough, but I wouldn't give him a max or anywhere near 3 first to obtain him for the Spurs imo. I agree to pass.

[SayTown]

Brown is a physical freak and very athletic and that's what makes him look impressive but he lacks fundamentals and basketball IQ really he's just above average and no more than the third maybe even fourth guy on a championship team.

[Ariel]

Actually, if they wait to officially announce it until free agency begins and the 3rd pick can officially sign, Little doesn't have to be in it, but I could see him and Pritchard being involved anyway.



They're desperate for a star, have been after a wing one for a while and can't do better.
Houston too, they owe their next 3 picks to OKC and they're ready to make a win now move. Plus it's known Jaylen Brown loves Ime, I don't think keeping him there would be a long term concern. Though, to be fair, I'd hope if Boston trades him, it's for a win now piece, not because I care about them winning, but because I want them to hit rock bottom by '28.

[RC_Drunkford]

the Celtics won't trade Brown for picks, they a contender. They will want a superstar back

[Ariel]

the Celtics won't trade Brown for picks, they a contender. They will want a superstar back
Those picks and young players (either with Portland or Houston) are very valuable, they can very well find a taker for win now players.

[RC_Drunkford]

Those picks and young players (either with Portland or Houston) are very valuable, they can very well find a taker for win now players.

you call that a 3-team deal. Also which rebuilding team has an All-Star on their roster? I doubt Boston will take Shai or Lauri Markkanen

[lefty]

Jaylen Brown would be perfect number 2 to Wemby for the future, if i'm the front office i'm going hard after him... Keldon and 3 first for him!
Fuck no, those turnovers were comical

[JPB]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2734112-jaylen-brown-comments-on-kyrie-irving-believing-the-earth-is-flat

Jaylen Brown Comments on Kyrie Irving Believing the Earth Is Flat

ADAM WELLS
SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

(it's even worst than I believed for Irving)

Kyrie Irving is already making an impact on the Boston Celtics, though not in ways that have anything to do with basketball.

Per ESPN.com's Chris Forsberg, Celtics forward Jaylen Brown said Tuesday he could agree with Irving's theory that the earth is flat:

Irving posited his theory during a February appearance on the Road Trippin' with R.J. & Channing podcast hosted by his then-Cleveland Cavaliers teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye.

"I'm telling you, it's right in front of our faces. They lie to us," he said. "There is no concrete information except for the information that they're giving us. They're particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. The truth is right there; you just got to go searching for it."

Irving's theory has gained traction outside the sports world. Middle school teacher Nick Gurol told a seminar (via NPR's Avi Wolfman-Arent) that his students were asking questions about the earth being flat.

"And immediately I start to panic," Gurol said. "How have I failed these kids so badly they think the earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?"

The Celtics acquired Irving in a trade with the Cavaliers on Aug. 30. The four-time All-Star is coming off a season in which he set career highs with 25.2 points per game and a 47.3 shooting percentage and helped Cleveland reach its third consecutive NBA Finals.

[Mr. Body]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2734112-jaylen-brown-comments-on-kyrie-irving-believing-the-earth-is-flat

Jaylen Brown Comments on Kyrie Irving Believing the Earth Is Flat

ADAM WELLS
SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

(it's even worst than I believed for Irving)

Kyrie Irving is already making an impact on the Boston Celtics, though not in ways that have anything to do with basketball.

Per ESPN.com's Chris Forsberg, Celtics forward Jaylen Brown said Tuesday he could agree with Irving's theory that the earth is flat:

Irving posited his theory during a February appearance on the Road Trippin' with R.J. & Channing podcast hosted by his then-Cleveland Cavaliers teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye.

"I'm telling you, it's right in front of our faces. They lie to us," he said. "There is no concrete information except for the information that they're giving us. They're particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. The truth is right there; you just got to go searching for it."

Irving's theory has gained traction outside the sports world. Middle school teacher Nick Gurol told a seminar (via NPR's Avi Wolfman-Arent) that his students were asking questions about the earth being flat.

"And immediately I start to panic," Gurol said. "How have I failed these kids so badly they think the earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?"

The Celtics acquired Irving in a trade with the Cavaliers on Aug. 30. The four-time All-Star is coming off a season in which he set career highs with 25.2 points per game and a 47.3 shooting percentage and helped Cleveland reach its third consecutive NBA Finals.

Yeah, Brown is a lunatic.

[Mr. Body]

I'm not looking for a superstar or even a star in return, if I'm the Celtics. In part, there's no one worth it available. You shouldn't want KAT or Trae.

Getting a better mix of players will help. The team is just one dimensional and has feasted on a very lousy Eastern Conference for years, other than the Bucks getting good one year. I know that's like trading Barkley for pieces, but Brown isn't Barkley.

[TD 21]

Houston too, they owe their next 3 picks to OKC and they're ready to make a win now move. Plus it's known Jaylen Brown loves Ime, I don't think keeping him there would be a long term concern. Though, to be fair, I'd hope if Boston trades him, it's for a win now piece, not because I care about them winning, but because I want them to hit rock bottom by '28.

Throw in the Hornets (though they'd probably be the least likely to pull the trigger), as well. Offer him for Ball or the 2nd pick.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2734112-jaylen-brown-comments-on-kyrie-irving-believing-the-earth-is-flat

Jaylen Brown Comments on Kyrie Irving Believing the Earth Is Flat

ADAM WELLS
SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

(it's even worst than I believed for Irving)

Kyrie Irving is already making an impact on the Boston Celtics, though not in ways that have anything to do with basketball.

Per ESPN.com's Chris Forsberg, Celtics forward Jaylen Brown said Tuesday he could agree with Irving's theory that the earth is flat:

Irving posited his theory during a February appearance on the Road Trippin' with R.J. & Channing podcast hosted by his then-Cleveland Cavaliers teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye.

"I'm telling you, it's right in front of our faces. They lie to us," he said. "There is no concrete information except for the information that they're giving us. They're particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. The truth is right there; you just got to go searching for it."

Irving's theory has gained traction outside the sports world. Middle school teacher Nick Gurol told a seminar (via NPR's Avi Wolfman-Arent) that his students were asking questions about the earth being flat.

"And immediately I start to panic," Gurol said. "How have I failed these kids so badly they think the earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?"

The Celtics acquired Irving in a trade with the Cavaliers on Aug. 30. The four-time All-Star is coming off a season in which he set career highs with 25.2 points per game and a 47.3 shooting percentage and helped Cleveland reach its third consecutive NBA Finals.

In the actual interview Brown doesn't appear to give the flat-earth theory a lot of genuine support. It was done in 2017 and so probably didn't want to piss off his superstar teammate by saying he was nuts.

[Dverde]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2734112-jaylen-brown-comments-on-kyrie-irving-believing-the-earth-is-flat

Jaylen Brown Comments on Kyrie Irving Believing the Earth Is Flat

ADAM WELLS
SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

(it's even worst than I believed for Irving)

Kyrie Irving is already making an impact on the Boston Celtics, though not in ways that have anything to do with basketball.

Per ESPN.com's Chris Forsberg, Celtics forward Jaylen Brown said Tuesday he could agree with Irving's theory that the earth is flat:

Irving posited his theory during a February appearance on the Road Trippin' with R.J. & Channing podcast hosted by his then-Cleveland Cavaliers teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye.

"I'm telling you, it's right in front of our faces. They lie to us," he said. "There is no concrete information except for the information that they're giving us. They're particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. The truth is right there; you just got to go searching for it."

Irving's theory has gained traction outside the sports world. Middle school teacher Nick Gurol told a seminar (via NPR's Avi Wolfman-Arent) that his students were asking questions about the earth being flat.

"And immediately I start to panic," Gurol said. "How have I failed these kids so badly they think the earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?"

The Celtics acquired Irving in a trade with the Cavaliers on Aug. 30. The four-time All-Star is coming off a season in which he set career highs with 25.2 points per game and a 47.3 shooting percentage and helped Cleveland reach its third consecutive NBA Finals.

The entire concept of Santa Claus is insanely unbelievable, but kids all believe for years and years.

[Gagnrath]

Jaylen Brown would be perfect number 2 to Wemby for the future, if i'm the front office i'm going hard after him... Keldon and 3 first for him!

No.... Jaylen Brown doesn't have playmaking or heart, he also has his defensive intensity determined by how his offense is going.... Dude is a good iso player who goes right 90% of the time. He is a decent catch and shoot threat. When his offense is going he plays above average defense the rest of the time not great. At the mid-level exception as the #3 player on a team ok at anything other than that nah

[spurraider21]

im pretty sure almost nobody liked this pick at the time, but by far my favorite take was that he was redundant with Bryn Forbes

[kobyz]

No.... Jaylen Brown doesn't have playmaking or heart, he also has his defensive intensity determined by how his offense is going.... Dude is a good iso player who goes right 90% of the time. He is a decent catch and shoot threat. When his offense is going he plays above average defense the rest of the time not great. At the mid-level exception as the #3 player on a team ok at anything other than that nah

If you looking to get a Michael Jordan, you need to stop

[exstatic]

If you looking to get a Michael Jordan, you need to stop

There are not only two choices: a selfish chucker or Jordan. There are a lot of interesting options over the next few years, and Brown probably isn’t in the top 10. The WORST thing to do is a knee jerk NAME acquisition.

[kobyz]

There are not only two choices: a selfish chucker or Jordan. There are a lot of interesting options over the next few years, and Brown probably isn’t in the top 10. The WORST thing to do is a knee jerk NAME acquisition.

Jaylen Brown is fantastic two way player, what your scenario of getting something better?

[Gagnrath]

Jaylen Brown is fantastic two way player, what your scenario of getting something better?

Jaylen isn't Jordan Jaylen is a knock-off Vince Carter circa 2010. He has 15 games a year where he looks amazing and is top of the league. He has another 20 games where he's all-star calibre. He has 20 games where he puts up numbers but doesn't help the team doing it, and 15 games where he will shoot the team out of the game. It's not really that he's a bad player he isn't he's pretty good. What he isn't is a leader and team player on the floor. Off the floor he seems to be smart enough to stay out of trouble and say the right things. He wants to be that go to guy, he is almost good enough, but a decent defender will always just force him right into big man help and he doesn't have the court vision to consistently pass out, he doesn't have the handles to beat the guy and fairly regularly losses it.

I don't have an issue with Jaylen Brown at 17 to 19 million a year. (Other than the general ludicrous pro-sports salaries compared to jobs that do more to help society but that's a different subject all together.) I do have an issue with Brown making more than say 12 to 15% of a salary cap of $150,000,000. He isn't a guy who gets you 20 wins over replacement. He is going to want a super max because he's eligible for it. He isn't worth it. Since he isn't going to get a super-max contract from Boston he is going to demand a regular max contract because of that he is going to drag down the team who gives it to him. I can argue that he is close to worth a regular max and it is a gamble that a team who gives that to him if they have another star and a couple of good players on rookie scale and extensions might be champion teams if the cards fall right. It's not assured though and it would be really easy to pair assets to get him and blow apart a team.

I don't exactly want a better head to head player than Brown. I want a better leader than Brown and in all honesty I don't know the personalities and games of younger borderline stars who might be available. I am not looking for a guy to be Jordan, I am not even looking for a guy to be McGrady to Yao, I am more looking for a guy who can be more like Finely to Dirk. Not way older not in career twilight, but a guy who is in his late 20s early 30s has one or two All-star appearances and can step up and be the man maybe 10 games a year.

[spurraider21]

(Other than the general ludicrous pro-sports salaries compared to jobs that do more to help society but that's a different subject all together.)
yeah, but the alternative is the owners just keep more of the profits

[Gagnrath]

yeah, but the alternative is the owners just keep more of the profits

If the venues and franchises didn't tend to be public funded I would find owner profits increasing far more palatable. I have some questions about the idea of public funded private profits.

[kobyz]

Jaylen isn't Jordan Jaylen is a knock-off Vince Carter circa 2010. He has 15 games a year where he looks amazing and is top of the league. He has another 20 games where he's all-star calibre. He has 20 games where he puts up numbers but doesn't help the team doing it, and 15 games where he will shoot the team out of the game. It's not really that he's a bad player he isn't he's pretty good. What he isn't is a leader and team player on the floor. Off the floor he seems to be smart enough to stay out of trouble and say the right things. He wants to be that go to guy, he is almost good enough, but a decent defender will always just force him right into big man help and he doesn't have the court vision to consistently pass out, he doesn't have the handles to beat the guy and fairly regularly losses it.

I don't have an issue with Jaylen Brown at 17 to 19 million a year. (Other than the general ludicrous pro-sports salaries compared to jobs that do more to help society but that's a different subject all together.) I do have an issue with Brown making more than say 12 to 15% of a salary cap of $150,000,000. He isn't a guy who gets you 20 wins over replacement. He is going to want a super max because he's eligible for it. He isn't worth it. Since he isn't going to get a super-max contract from Boston he is going to demand a regular max contract because of that he is going to drag down the team who gives it to him. I can argue that he is close to worth a regular max and it is a gamble that a team who gives that to him if they have another star and a couple of good players on rookie scale and extensions might be champion teams if the cards fall right. It's not assured though and it would be really easy to pair assets to get him and blow apart a team.

I don't exactly want a better head to head player than Brown. I want a better leader than Brown and in all honesty I don't know the personalities and games of younger borderline stars who might be available. I am not looking for a guy to be Jordan, I am not even looking for a guy to be McGrady to Yao, I am more looking for a guy who can be more like Finely to Dirk. Not way older not in career twilight, but a guy who is in his late 20s early 30s has one or two All-star appearances and can step up and be the man maybe 10 games a year.

All the Vince Carter talk on him might be true to describe his offense, but on defense he has a lot Bruce Bowen in him, and that make him a max player

[exstatic]

All the Vince Carter talk on him might be true to describe his offense, but on defense he has a lot Bruce Bowen in him, and that make him a max player

You people have a warped idea of what individual players max contracts are. Jaylen is in line for 5/$295M. That's $59M per season. He is absolutely NOT worth that.

[rjv]

jaylen brown is fixing to rob someone

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You people have a warped idea of what individual players max contracts are. Jaylen is in line for 5/$295M. That's $59M per season. He is absolutely NOT worth that.

I had to do a double-take when I looked back at the Admiral's contract when he was guaranteed the average of the top two paid players' salaries in the league. It was a pittance compared to today's salaries...$7.3MM. How times have changed.

[Mr. Body]

Jaylen isn't Jordan Jaylen is a knock-off Vince Carter circa 2010. He has 15 games a year where he looks amazing and is top of the league. He has another 20 games where he's all-star calibre. He has 20 games where he puts up numbers but doesn't help the team doing it, and 15 games where he will shoot the team out of the game. It's not really that he's a bad player he isn't he's pretty good. What he isn't is a leader and team player on the floor. Off the floor he seems to be smart enough to stay out of trouble and say the right things. He wants to be that go to guy, he is almost good enough, but a decent defender will always just force him right into big man help and he doesn't have the court vision to consistently pass out, he doesn't have the handles to beat the guy and fairly regularly losses it.

I don't have an issue with Jaylen Brown at 17 to 19 million a year. (Other than the general ludicrous pro-sports salaries compared to jobs that do more to help society but that's a different subject all together.) I do have an issue with Brown making more than say 12 to 15% of a salary cap of $150,000,000. He isn't a guy who gets you 20 wins over replacement. He is going to want a super max because he's eligible for it. He isn't worth it. Since he isn't going to get a super-max contract from Boston he is going to demand a regular max contract because of that he is going to drag down the team who gives it to him. I can argue that he is close to worth a regular max and it is a gamble that a team who gives that to him if they have another star and a couple of good players on rookie scale and extensions might be champion teams if the cards fall right. It's not assured though and it would be really easy to pair assets to get him and blow apart a team.

I don't exactly want a better head to head player than Brown. I want a better leader than Brown and in all honesty I don't know the personalities and games of younger borderline stars who might be available. I am not looking for a guy to be Jordan, I am not even looking for a guy to be McGrady to Yao, I am more looking for a guy who can be more like Finely to Dirk. Not way older not in career twilight, but a guy who is in his late 20s early 30s has one or two All-star appearances and can step up and be the man maybe 10 games a year.

I appreciate the rank. Beautiful.

Jaylen Brown is recipient of the Celtics dividend. Every single Boston Celtic to have ever played gets grotesquely overrated by their fanbase, which is mentally derranged. They don't know anything about basketball, but whatever it is, their guys are absolutely the best. The national sports media follows suit. This applies to other Boston sports.

[BacktoBasics]

You people have a warped idea of what individual players max contracts are. Jaylen is in line for 5/$295M. That's $59M per season. He is absolutely NOT worth that.

He’s not worth that but he’s worth more than the 19 or so million mentioned above.

[DAF86]

Jaylen Brown is fantastic two way player, what your scenario of getting something better?

Dude, Brown isn't as good as you think he is, tbh.

[JPB]

Max contracts don't necessarily reflect the value of a player nowadays. They're often ways for teams to try and bring a player in, and the other team to eventually keep him in... It's hard to get stars in their prime in the NBA, and you know there always will be a team for pulling the big bag and overpay for a guy who doesn't really deserve it... That's the price to pay.

[CGD]

I had to do a double-take when I looked back at the Admiral's contract when he was guaranteed the average of the top two paid players' salaries in the league. It was a pittance compared to today's salaries...$7.3MM. How times have changed.

That’s 15M in today dollars, but yeah point taken.

[Seventyniner]

imo Jaylen Brown is easily worth $30M per year. But nowhere close to $59M.

[Dex]

imo Jaylen Brown is easily worth $30M per year. But nowhere close to $59M.

Yep. To me, the guy seems like a good #2....but paying #1 money to a clear #2 is going to be suicide for any team in this new CBA

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yep. To me, the guy seems like a good #2....but paying #1 money to a clear #2 is going to be suicide for any team in this new CBA

Sounds like someone Mark Cuban will be licking his chops over.

[BatManu20]

imo Jaylen Brown is easily worth $30M per year. But nowhere close to $59M.

Agreed. Especially considering he’s a turnover machine who can’t dribble for shit, he’s a poor defender, and he’s not a playmaker whatsoever. He’s strictly a scorer. Celtics are likely fucked if they give him that SuperMax tbh. Unless they intend on trading him down the line or he suddenly develops into a much better all-around player.

[Gagnrath]

Agreed. Especially considering he’s a turnover machine who can’t dribble for shit, he’s a poor defender, and he’s not a playmaker whatsoever. He’s strictly a scorer. Celtics are likely fucked if they give him that SuperMax tbh. Unless they intend on trading him down the line or he suddenly develops into a much better all-around player.
Honestly he's not a bad defender and is a very good man defender when his offense is clicking the problem is that on games when his offense isn't good his mind goes with that offense and he loses focus.

[exstatic]

Honestly he's not a bad defender and is a very good man defender when his offense is clicking the problem is that on games when his offense isn't good his mind goes with that offense and he loses focus.

Still not worth $59M. if he had 82 games where is offense was at it’s best, and he was dialed in on defense, he still wouldn’t be worth $59M. Only #1 guys are worth that money, and he’s a #2.

[Obstructed_View]

yeah, but the alternative is the owners just keep more of the profits
Or the alternative is affordable tickets.

[TDMVPDPOY]

j.brown is a fkn scrub man...didnt do shit when the celtics needed him to make up for tatums short comings in elimination games...

[spurraider21]

Or the alternative is affordable tickets.
Ticket sales are less than a quarter of the nbas revenue

[Obstructed_View]

Ticket sales are less than a quarter of the nbas revenue
Then lowering the price of them shouldn't hurt the league.

[FkLA]

Mah boy finally let it go, happy for him :cry

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[rascal]

I appreciate the rank. Beautiful.

Jaylen Brown is recipient of the Celtics dividend. Every single Boston Celtic to have ever played gets grotesquely overrated by their fanbase, which is mentally derranged. They don't know anything about basketball, but whatever it is, their guys are absolutely the best. The national sports media follows suit. This applies to other Boston sports.

You have it all wrong. Spur fans overrate their players. Boston fans are very pessimistic about their players and teams.

[cutewizard]

Hope that Derick returns someday

[FkLA]

God damn it :cry :cry

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[Harry Callahan]

White signed his second Spurs contract and never could get in a consistent grove again. Constant foot issues.

He got healthy again and is a really good player again. Too bad for the Spurs.

[Gagnrath]

You have it all wrong. Spur fans overrate their players. Boston fans are very pessimistic about their players and teams.

Depends on the current streak of win vs losses....

[timtonymanu]

Congrats to our boy! From having to start alongside Bryn Forbes to starting alongside Jrue Holiday and winning his first championship. Happy for him.

[GAustex]

^Nice

[Uriel]

We already knew even during the DeRozan years that White was the best player on the team. In hindsight, we should’ve asked for more when we dealt him.

[Uriel]

Also, we drafted White as a 23-year old rookie when many mocks tabbed him for the second round. Just something to think about in the lead up to this draft.

[DAF86]

White is arguably the most rounded player we have on the entire roster.

If you have a good eye, it doesn't take much to spot a special player, tbh. :hat

Congrats to D-White, he was a beast out there. I still firmly believe White > Murray, tbh.

[Robz4000]

Congrats to NBA Champion Derrick White tbh. Proud of this dude.

[BatManu20]

Congrats to our boy D-White. Happy for him tbh :cry

[BatManu20]

Congrats to our boy! From having to start alongside Bryn Forbes to starting alongside Jrue Holiday and winning his first championship.Happy for him.

A true rags-to-riches story tbh :lol

[rankingtear]

We gonna draft the next one in Carter. A balding guard shot blocker.

[objective]

Good for Derrick for overcoming the stuff he had to in San Antonio

From being ignored as a rookie when it was obvious he should play, from being benched in the playoffs after being the only reason they were even there, from not being allowed to play more than 23 minutes a game as Dejiunte's backup, just terribly mishandled.

Happy for Derrick for being allowed to succeed, he deserves it

[Chinook]

Also, we drafted White as a 23-year old rookie when many mocks tabbed him for the second round. Just something to think about in the lead up to this draft.

I don't know about that. Seniors who get drafted high mostly don't work out nowadays. But this is a good draft for upperclassmen (since a lot avoided last year's draft due to its perceived strength) and 35 is not a throwaway pick, even with the prospects the team already has.

[Pauleta14]

Also, we drafted White as a 23-year old rookie when many mocks tabbed him for the second round. Just something to think about in the lead up to this draft.

I keep thinking about it tbh

I know why younger playes have more value but 21-23yo college players offer more garanties and readier to produce from their rookie season.

If PATFO really wants to accelerate the process it's not absurd to imagine them picking a Dalton Knetch or Devin Carter for that reason

Nobody knows anything about Spurs FO real timeline and strategy which makes the pronostics impossible

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

happy for Derrick White. not surprised he thrived in Boston. his role was way easier there than in San Antonio. I will say that it's funny how the national media acted like he came out of know where, when he was a quality player for us before getting traded there.

[Dverde]

https://youtu.be/ZhKNjJxOKlY?si=f793BF0m_9XjdCS2
That chipped tooth is going to make him a bigger Boston legend. He already has a Sam Adam’s commercial.

[Dejounte]

Wait, so our “shitty roleplayers who would never be starters on a good team” CAN be starters on a good team. Yeah, that shit was said on this board a few years back. Pretty reminiscent of the shit that’s said today about the current players.

[RC_Drunkford]

Congrats to Derrick. Improving his 3-point shot made him a key piece on that Boston team

[DPG21920]

What's crazy is he's another major shot blocking guard - sound like someone who's leaving opens the door for that skillset ?

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It’s insane how well this translated for Derrick into the NBA. Just an amazing defensive guard and his 3ball came along so well post injury and he just went off in BOS. So happy for Derrick man

[GAustex]

Congrats to Derrick. Improving his 3-point shot made him a key piece on that Boston team
Overcoming foot problems helped

[timtonymanu]

God damn it :cry :cry

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Get in here, FkLA. While everyone was like "We don't need White, Murray is better." The former wins a title, while the latter fell into the lottery. :lol

[jjspur]

Congrats to Derrick White. NBA Champion. While many people thought he was just a role player - and not much more, it just shows that role players, especially good ones, are an important part of any championship team. When the starters are resting, the role players keep the lead. When a starter is injured, the role player takes his place until he returns. Always ready o be the next man up.
Congrats again to Derrick White - role player & NBA Champ.

[John B]

So happy for Derrick who found a new home in Boston. I remember when he first found out he was being traded, he felt so rejected since he just got married and was really hoping that San Antonio will be his home for a long time. While Murray was so giddy to leave, conspiring with a new found “ally” to make big lol. Well it couldn’t happen to a better man, for Derrick to be adored and loved by his new fans in Boston, and last night winning a championship. Congratulations Derrick Richard White, NBA Champion.

[Spurs Homer]

Good for D White!

but we have got to get some of those boston basketball rims/baskets because derrick could do nothing but brick 3 pointers in san antonio...

but in boston he hardly missed 3 ptrs!

[SpursDynasty85]

Good for D White!

but we have got to get some of those boston basketball rims/baskets because derrick could do nothing but brick 3 pointers in san antonio...

but in boston he hardly missed 3 ptrs!

The guy had been fighting the underdog mentality his whole life. He's living a dream and was gazing up at all the talent around him. This year, FINALLY, dude shot the ball with confidence. One of the quickest and highest arcs in the game. Just beautiful.

[SpursDynasty85]

If you have a good eye, it doesn't take much to spot a special player, tbh. :hat

Congrats to D-White, he was a beast out there. I still firmly believe White > Murray, tbh.

D-White is definitely more plug and play for most line ups. Dejounte is the better primary on-ball point guard. Love all the intangibles of Derrick over Dejounte for sure too.

[CGD]

One of my favorite recent Spurs. Sad that he got traded, but understood given the circumstances and direction of the team. Glad they sent him to a place he could win, which i hope strengthens the message that the Spurs will do their best to do right by their players if it’s time for them to move on.

[The Truth #6]

With their salary crunch White could slip away at some point and go elsewhere. Not sure when his current salary ends but a lot of mouths to feed up there and Jaylen Brown has an insane contract.

[Dejounte]

I love White but some people here can’t be happy for White without bashing DJ. They were teammates. They were never rivals. It’s quite pathetic. You won’t hear about Derrick if this was the other way around.

in the Murray thread, you have your Derrick stans repeatedly saying they’d rather have Derrick.

In Derrick threads like this one, you’ll barely find Murray stans saying they’d rather have Murray. And even if there were, that’s childish shit too. I’ve only done that to annoy the Derrick stans with their stupid behavior.

[SpursDynasty85]

I love White but some people here can’t be happy for White without bashing DJ. They were teammates. They were never rivals. It’s quite pathetic. You won’t hear about Derrick if this was the other way around.

in the Murray thread, you have your Derrick stans repeatedly saying they’d rather have Derrick.

In Derrick threads like this one, you’ll barely find Murray stans saying they’d rather have Murray. And even if there were, that’s childish shit too. I’ve only done that to annoy the Derrick stans with their stupid behavior.

Your posts could be pointed at others I'm sure but for me, Murray trade talks plus White entering expiring contract, to me, makes it enticing to bring one of them back possibly. Both play PG, both used to be Spurs, and both would help the Spurs. Would love to have one or both back, unless of course Murray still has beef with FO.

[timtonymanu]

I love White but some people here can’t be happy for White without bashing DJ. They were teammates. They were never rivals. It’s quite pathetic. You won’t hear about Derrick if this was the other way around.

in the Murray thread, you have your Derrick stans repeatedly saying they’d rather have Derrick.

In Derrick threads like this one, you’ll barely find Murray stans saying they’d rather have Murray. And even if there were, that’s childish shit too. I’ve only done that to annoy the Derrick stans with their stupid behavior.

I get it cause you like Murray, hell i wouldn’t even be opposed to bringing him back. But I still thought his exit here was childish. And now he’s back to “I love the spurs :cry” cause they have a generational talent in Wemby so that’s why I still throw shade at Murray. Either way, it’s not that serious to me.

[scott]

Very happy for Derrick.

While the trade to Boston made a lot of sense when it happened, it will continue to evolve to look like a huge heist on Boston's part. Just a reminder of the kind of quality you can get for FRPs. Looking forward to 2028 when we swap our #30 pick with Boston's #29 pick :)

[spurs10]

Alright D White!

[Extra Stout]

Good for D White!

but we have got to get some of those boston basketball rims/baskets because derrick could do nothing but brick 3 pointers in san antonio...

but in boston he hardly missed 3 ptrs!
Weird, because players never improve their shot in the pros. However they shot their freshman year in college is all they are and all they ever will be. So you’re right, it must be the rims.

[TDomination]

Very happy for D White!
I could tell he was a special player the first year with Derozan, Murray got hurt preseason I believe but White filling in made the team better.

So close to beating the nuggets in first round that year. A lot of that was because of white.

[Rocalcio]

Very happy for him. Now that he has his ring, and considering his love for SA, I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes back by the end of his career to mentor young players here.

[kobyz]

No.... Jaylen Brown doesn't have playmaking or heart, he also has his defensive intensity determined by how his offense is going.... Dude is a good iso player who goes right 90% of the time. He is a decent catch and shoot threat. When his offense is going he plays above average defense the rest of the time not great. At the mid-level exception as the #3 player on a team ok at anything other than that nah

Lol

[kobyz]

There are not only two choices: a selfish chucker or Jordan. There are a lot of interesting options over the next few years, and Brown probably isn’t in the top 10. The WORST thing to do is a knee jerk NAME acquisition.

Lol

[Dverde]

https://x.com/ramblinwreck34/status/1803791024050864278?s=46

[KingKev]

That DJ/DW back court really could have been something if they had a true number one but those moves had to be made from our perspective. White has an opportunity to be part of a new dynasty if all those guys stay humble. The White vs DJ conversation is a ST bootleg TP vs Manu debate though.

[Ice009]

Wasn't Derrick's dad a huge Boston fan? I vaguely recall someone saying that his dad was happy he was traded to the Celtics as that was his dad's favourite team?
Edit: Just clicked on the link, and yeah, Derrick's dad is a Celtics and Redsox fan.

[RC_Drunkford]

I love White but some people here can’t be happy for White without bashing DJ. They were teammates. They were never rivals. It’s quite pathetic. You won’t hear about Derrick if this was the other way around.

in the Murray thread, you have your Derrick stans repeatedly saying they’d rather have Derrick.

In Derrick threads like this one, you’ll barely find Murray stans saying they’d rather have Murray. And even if there were, that’s childish shit too. I’ve only done that to annoy the Derrick stans with their stupid behavior.

they had Manu vs. Parker threads for years around here. Soon there will be another made up rivalry to keep the tradition going.

[Mal]

So Derrick White after being traded from Spurs is collecting a lot of W - NBA Champs, fat extension and now he is going to Olympics

[mudd]

drafted too old, got hurt too much, missed too many 3's, not a good long term spur...what do we know...

[MannyIsGod]

Will always root for this dude. You have to be broken to hate on DW.

[baseline bum]

Nice, congrats DWhite!

[quentin_compson]

Every team in the NBA would or at least should be happy to have this guy. What a great player to be rooting for!

[CGD]

He’s in line to win an NBA championship and Olympic Gold in the same summer, thats awesome.

[GAustex]

So happy for DW got out of the SA shitshow

[scott]

Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

[timtonymanu]

Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.

[RC_Drunkford]

Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

but we also got 5 second rounders for J-Rich :lol

[DPG21920]

I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.

No matter what deal was amazing for BOS - have to see if that swap ends up paying off or not (likely does not)

[CGD]

No matter what deal was amazing for BOS - have to see if that swap ends up paying off or not (likely does not)

Amazing deal for Boston— DW indispensable part their recent playoff successes.

The recent sale of the Celtics, and scuttlebutt about how unsustainable the cost of their roster will be after next season, gives me hope that the deal could still end up being decent for the Spurs too. But like with the recent MIN deal, we’ll have to wait.

The SRPs from the related Richardson deal will also be useful. Arguably it was one of those that allowed the Spurs to move Graham (also related to the DW trade), to open up space for the recent Barnes deal.

[scott]

I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.


but we also got 5 second rounders for J-Rich :lol

Massive steal for Boston, and maybe the Spurs should have gotten a little more, but from our POV the real win came in clearing out our floor raisers (Derrick, DJM, Jak to a lesser extent) that were going to hold us back from doing what we needed to do - tank for our star.

So, as big of a steal as this was for Boston, I’m not mad about it at all from the Spurs POV.

With that said, there is a lesson here, for lots of teams.

For a team like Utah… Ainge is trying to win every deal to the maximum extent possible… but at some point he should take fair value for guys like Lauri, Sexton and Clarkson and just bottom out. Does he really need that extra late FRP who will become a Blake Wesley? Picks like that can important when you’re already good and need ways to add to your club, but when you’re bad… one more late FRP usually isn’t what makes or breaks your franchise, especially when you already have more picks than you can possibly use.

And there is a lesson for the Spurs… in big game hunting for Wemby’s co-star, don’t overvalue that projected late FRP or future swap. If those moves are going to elevate us to a playoff contender, then who f’n cares, so long as you don’t completely empty your cupboard. So we might lose out on the chance to draft another Blake Wesley in 6 years… it’s not a big deal.

[DAF86]

Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

Think of it as a necessity to get Wemby, tbh.

[TD 21]

Massive steal for Boston, and maybe the Spurs should have gotten a little more, but from our POV the real win came in clearing out our floor raisers (Derrick, DJM, Jak to a lesser extent) that were going to hold us back from doing what we needed to do - tank for our star.

So, as big of a steal as this was for Boston, I’m not mad about it at all from the Spurs POV.

With that said, there is a lesson here, for lots of teams.

For a team like Utah… Ainge is trying to win every deal to the maximum extent possible… but at some point he should take fair value for guys like Lauri, Sexton and Clarkson and just bottom out. Does he really need that extra late FRP who will become a Blake Wesley? Picks like that can important when you’re already good and need ways to add to your club, but when you’re bad… one more late FRP usually isn’t what makes or breaks your franchise, especially when you already have more picks than you can possibly use.

And there is a lesson for the Spurs… in big game hunting for Wemby’s co-star, don’t overvalue that projected late FRP or future swap. If those moves are going to elevate us to a playoff contender, then who f’n cares, so long as you don’t completely empty your cupboard. So we might lose out on the chance to draft another Blake Wesley in 6 years… it’s not a big deal.

The value of picks in general mostly comes down to where a team is at in their cycle.

If you're at ground zero of a re-build like the Wizards are now or the Spurs telegraphed their intention to be with the White trade, then every minor asset you can accumulate is like gold.

Since the Jazz are still looking for their foundational player and the next few drafts project to have a cadre of them, they should be coming for it all . . . but not at the expense of having this drag into the season to where they risk hurting their odds.

[BatManu20]

Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

Highway robbery tbh.

[scott]

The value of picks in general mostly comes down to where a team is at in their cycle.

If you're at ground zero of a re-build like the Wizards are now or the Spurs telegraphed their intention to be with the White trade, then every minor asset you can accumulate is like gold.

Since the Jazz are still looking for their foundational player and the next few drafts project to have a cadre of them, they should be coming for it all . . . but not at the expense of having this drag into the season to where they risk hurting their odds.

There’s a fine line. By holding out for max value on guys like Lauri, Ainge is just dragging out the process of bottoming out. That doesn’t mean he should give away bargain basement deals, but at some point he shouldn’t hold out for that 5th late FRP.

[BatManu20]

They won't trade Derrick unless it's for a haul imo, but damn I'd love him back in SA playing besides Wemby tbh. One of the truly elite role players in this league.

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[John B]

They won't trade Derrick unless it's for a haul imo, but damn I'd love him back in SA playing besides Wemby tbh. One of the truly elite role players in this league.

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That 2028 swap is getting sweeter and sweeter.

As much as I love Derrick, I'm happy with Castle and Harper as my future backcourt.

[KobesAchilles]

That 2028 swap is getting sweeter and sweeter.

As much as I love Derrick, I'm happy with Castle and Harper as my future backcourt.
That pick swap will be perfect for us when we trade for Jayson Tatum.

[Knoxxx]

Seems to me the issue we face is not getting free agents to come but managing payroll. Which is actually more in the good problems to have category. We are gonna be getting STAAAACKED.

[RC_Drunkford]

Seems to me the issue we face is not getting free agents to come but managing payroll. Which is actually more in the good problems to have category. We are gonna be getting STAAAACKED.

yup, lining up contracts the right way is key, which is why KD fits.