Woj:Patty Mills has agreed to a 4-year, $50M deal to stay with San Antonio

[TheGreatYacht]

I was gonna point this out. :lol
No you weren't. You use RPM, you dipshit.

[dabom]

Seriously, you too?

No, the reason we lost is bc Pop decided to go down with Enrique who shot like 30% that series instead of rolling with Paddy who was having arguably his best series. Paddy was the far better option at PG by every single metric despite his struggles defending Doc Jr.

She thinks fathead is a good player. That tells you everything you need to know. :lol

[dabom]

No you weren't. You use RPM, you dipshit.

Remember when you used to be a Kawhi hater? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Remember when you used to be a Kawhi hater? :lol
I remember when he used to come up short and was rightly criticized. This year he didn't, but your aussie midget literally came up short shooting 21% against Curry :lol

[dabom]

I remember when he used to come up short and was rightly criticized. This year he didn't, but your aussie midget literally came up short shooting 21% against Curry :lol

Remember when you were the biggest Porker slurper? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Remember when you were the biggest Porker slurper? :lol
Remember when you went AFK for a week after the Dubs series? :lol strange that both you and gambitch were no where to be found in the Patty threads. Almost like it's the same person

[dabom]

Remember when you went AFK for a week after the Dubs series? :lol strange that both you and gambitch were no where to be found in the Patty threads. Almost like it's the same person

I never went AFK. Making shit up. :lmao :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

I remember when he used to come up short and was rightly criticized.

But enough about Porker.

[TheGreatYacht]

I never went AFK. Making shit up. :lmao :lmao
Go to my Start Patty Krew : lmao thread. Not even the ultimate jizzrag that you are could spin that turd Patty laid on the court. Your only rebuttal was "but Parker" :lol

[dabom]

Go to my Start Patty Krew : lmao thread. Not even the ultimate jizzrag that you are could spin that turd Patty laid on the court. Your only rebuttal was "but Parker" :lol

The Spurs rocked the cuckettes while porker was on a hospital bed and Patty was starting. :lmao

The Spurs were owning the warriettes with Patty starting until the best player in the world went down. :lmao

Porker is obsolete at this point, hell.. he was obsolete 4 years already. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

The Spurs rocked the cuckettes while porker was on a hospital bed and Patty was starting. :lmao

The Spurs were owning the warriettes with Patty starting until the best player in the world went down. :lmao

Porker is obsolete at this point, hell.. he was obsolete 4 years already. :lmao
He'll still be coming back to steal minutes from more deserving players. Get ready for him to come back better than ever. :lmao

[dabom]

He'll still be coming back to steal minutes from more deserving players. Get ready for him to come back better than ever. :lmao

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The Spurs rocked the cuckettes while porker was on a hospital bed and Patty was starting. :lmao
Spurs won the Rockets series because of Simmons, Aldridge, Green, and Murray. No thanks to the little dog turd who shot 33% from 3 that's series :lol


The Spurs were owning the warriettes with Patty starting until the best player in the world went down. :lmao
Wasn't Fatty Mills 1-8 from the field in 37 minutes that game? The audacity you have to use that game to fluff up Pity smdh


Porker is obsolete at this point, hell.. he was obsolete 4 years already. :lmao
The second best player in the playoffs for us is obsolete? Aldridge shoots under .400 a game when Mills is the PG over Parker :lmao

[dabom]

Rockets wanted porker so they could exploit him. Couldn't do that with MVPatty. :lmao :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Wasn't Fatty Mills 1-8 from the field in 37 minutes that game? The audacity you have to use that game to fluff up Pity smdh

0-6 from three. If only he hit one of those. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

0-6 from three. If only he hit one of those. :lol
Damn :lol

:depressed

[noles1983]

Dammit, I thought him leaving was almost assured. Guess the league didn't think he was good, wonder if he would have been offered anything better.

[ducks]

Read gms thought he was worth 12-17 million a year

[GSH]

The problem is, compared to what other people are getting paid, Patty was easily worth what the Spurs gave him. I don't know if it was wise for this team to hire a backup PG for four more years, right at this point. But that was the market for Patty, if not more.

To me, it isn't the number of dollars paid. I'm thinking about one mid-level player being with 1/8 of the salary cap. Especially when it seems like you need at least two top-tier guys on a contending team. So you have two guys taking up half the cap, plus two guys taking up another quarter of the cap between them? it doesn't work. To really contend, you've just about got to spend into the tax.

[cd98]

Shooters are getting paid in today's NBA. Patty shot bad in WCF, but he's still a shooter that spreads the floor.

[BackHome]

Ummm Riddick just signed a one Year 23 MILLION Dollar with Philly..........

[TimDunkem]

Ummm Riddick just signed a one Year 23 MILLION Dollar with Philly..........
He didn't "just sign" it. Also, it's a great deal for both camps. Philly gets top shooter and vet without committing long term, Reddick gets paid and, if it's a disaster, his contract is suddenly very tradable.

[TimDunkem]

Shooters are getting paid in today's NBA. Patty shot bad in WCF, but he's still a shooter that spreads the floor.
More like spreads his ass for other teams to score on. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He didn't "just sign" it. Also, it's a great deal for both camps. Philly gets top shooter and vet without committing long term, Reddick gets paid and, if it's a disaster, his contract is suddenly very tradable.

How do you figure he is going to be tradeable? The only teams that are going to want him are contenders and how many playoff teams with needs at the 2, $12m in cap space or however much of the proration is left, and assets of that make sense to the 76ers they are willing to part with are going to be available?

It makes sense for Philly because they have like $50m in cap space but the contract is going to have limited demand should they seek to trade it. Maybe there is a fit but its not going to be a bidding war.

[TimDunkem]

How do you figure he is going to be tradeable? The only teams that are going to want him are contenders and how many playoff teams with needs at the 2, $12m in cap space or however much of the proration is left, and assets of that make sense to the 76ers they are willing to part with are going to be available?

It makes sense for Philly because they have like $50m in cap space but the contract is going to have limited demand should they seek to trade it. Maybe there is a fit but its not going to be a bidding war.
You're reading way too hard into the worst possible case scenario regarding this contract. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're reading way too hard into the worst possible case scenario regarding this contract. :lol

Your statement does not even make any sense. I stated parameters that would be required:

A team with cap space to eat $10+m.
A team with a need at the 2.
A team willing to trade assets for an expiring contract ie a playoff team.
A team willing to part with assets that make sense for the 76ers.

That is not not "worst case" but rather how any deal makes sense. Worst case would be "there is no one with cap space," "nobody needs a 2," "no playoff teams want him," and "no team is offering something the 76ers want." It doesn't even need to be worst case anyway. If all of those parameters are not met then the deal doesn't happen.

He's not a young asset on a cheap contract that everyone is going to want.

[objective]

If something goes badly, like injury, Philly just walks away from Redick in the next summer.

Now, if something bad happens to Mills ...

:lol

Funnily enough, just like Parker, they'll be better off with him in street clothes.

[TimDunkem]

Fuzzy, I'm not interested in being in one of your seemingly daily arguments, you pedantic ass. Obviously, worst case scenario implies that Reddick's one year deal could be moved should he be a total disaster and/or a team is willing to take him due to any one of the scenarios you highlighted. With the host of different scenarios that can and do play out every year over the NBA season, it isn't out of the question that Reddick's one-year deal could be moved just like any of the expirings that are traded every single damn year. It's only been mentioned as a possibility by several different analysts so far who've commented on the deal. I don't need to explain which teams can do so or why. You're smart enough to figure it out. Goodnight, you pedantic fuck. :lol

[TimDunkem]

If something goes badly, like injury, Philly just walks away from Redick in the next summer.

Now, if something bad happens to Mills ...

:lol

Funnily enough, just like Parker, they'll be better off with him in street clothes.
Truth bomb. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy, I'm not interested in being in one of your seemingly daily arguments, you pedantic ass. Obviously, worst case scenario implies that Reddick's one year deal could be moved should he be a total disaster and/or a team is willing to take him due to any one of the scenarios you highlighted. With the host of different scenarios that can and do play out every year over the NBA season, it isn't out of the question that Reddick's one-year deal could be moved just like any of the expirings that are traded every single damn year. It's only been mentioned as a possibility by several different analysts so far who've commented on the deal. I don't need to explain which teams can do so or why. You're smart enough to figure it out. Goodnight, you pedantic fuck. :lol

You used the word incorrectly. And exactly how was I flouting my education. "Worst case scenario" is a middle school concept. You used it wrong. I suppose if I was dealing with a 4th grader you would have a point.

And again all of those things are nonstarters. If they don't have cap room they cannot take him. If they don't need a 2 they won't want him. If they don't have anything the 76ers want they won't do the trade etc.

As for "all the other expirings" that doesn't make sense either. That $23m is commensurate of max deal from past years. There have net been deals like that that have been dumped. And think about it. Teams that are trying to dump salary are close to the cap and trying to free up space. Typically those deals are for half that as clearing a $10m deal at the end of the season is easy once you consider the proration and 25% adjustment. Not so with this whopper.

So basically all you have to support your claim is that you heard it from "several different analysts." We have already shown how you struggle to apply simple concepts. I don't think you can be counted on for recollections. The Yahoo articles I read on the subject saying it was a good deal for Philly did not say that. And taking things on supposed authority without understanding why is a piss poor way to go through life in general.

It's extremely beta to put it in your terms.

[TimDunkem]

Don't even care to read all that. Leave it to Fuzzy to write a thesis on why a small part of one post was incorrect or didn't make sense to him.

If there is one guy on this forum who probably has zero friends, it's Fuzzy Lumps. :lol

[SAGirl]

I didn't read all of that either. lol

[TimDunkem]

I didn't read all of that either. lol
Inb4 he writes another book on why I'm an awful human being for not responding to his argument that he'll never let go off if I keep responding to him.

Did you see the shit he got into with DPG last week? Or his constant shit in the political forum? Guy will take one small part of your post that is incorrect or that he disagrees with and debate it with you for days until you finally get tired of him. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't even care to read all that. Leave it to Fuzzy to write a thesis on why a small part of one post was incorrect or didn't make sense to him.

If there is one guy on this forum who probably has zero friends, it's Fuzzy Lumps. :lol

:lol a dozen sentences is a thesis to you

Your response to my OP was only about "worst case" when I did no such thing. The above post covered several topics in 2-3 sentences each. It was too hard for you so I am sorry for that. I will treat you like you have a elementary school education from now on.

[TimDunkem]

Lmao Told you, SAGirl.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lmao Told you, SAGirl.

You were right on except the part about you not supporting your argument and it being a book. Unfortunately that is all you had.

Let's change topics. You're trying to pile on in creating a panic about the Mills resigning claiming that it is going to cost Murray minutes. This makes no sense to me.

If Murray plays well he will get the starting job. Patty has been a bench player his whole career.

The only way I see that happening is a worst case scenario from DJ's perspective. He would have to play poorly enough that he could not beat out Patty and then Parker would need to come back on time and play at a high level.

Even then I see Murray getting the 2014 Joseph role who got steady minutes.

[TimDunkem]

Found something you might be interested in, Fuzzy Lumps. You should really look into it before you give yourself an aneurysm.

http://rentafriend.com

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Found something you might be interested in, Fuzzy Lumps. You should really look into it before you give yourself an aneurysm.

http://rentafriend.com

:lol you should make a troll clique and try to marginalize me next. Make sure to make Lindsay Lohan your avatar though.

I get that you don't like me but this is just sad.

[BackHome]

Give EM Hell Fuzzy...........:)

You Don't Spit In The Wind
You Don't Tug On Superman's Cap
And You Don' Fuck With the Fuzz................

[TimDunkem]

Oh what am I saying? I'm sure things would just go something like this:

Rented friend: "HI, Fuzzy Lumps! My name is Jerry! I'll be yo-...

Lumpy: "Greetings and salutations, Jerry. Before we begin, please outline the parameters of why exactly I should consider you the optimal choice to accompany me as my acquaintance throughout the day during my daily activities which consist of watching C-Span and arguing on www.spurstalk. com. If you cannot muster up the mental fortitude to do so, I'd request that we disengage our transaction as I cannot allow myself to be in the company of a plebian of such mental ineptitude".

Rented friend: "I see why you called..."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well while that sock mets down does anyone want to argue that Mills is going to cost Murray minutes?

I don't see it but I am interested if anyone can make a decent case of it happening.

[tholdren]

Well while that sock mets down does anyone want to argue that Mills is going to cost Murray minutes?

I don't see it but I am interested if anyone can make a decent case of it happening.

No. Mills will be back at the 2, hopefully

[tbdog]

Well while that sock mets down does anyone want to argue that Mills is going to cost Murray minutes?

I don't see it but I am interested if anyone can make a decent case of it happening.

Murray will get between 20 to 28mins a game, which is a good spot for the first four months.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Murray will get between 20 to 28mins a game, which is a good spot for the first four months.

Yeah that is what sounds ideal to me. Both get in the neighborhood of 25 mpg until Tony come back and then reevaluate.

[SAGirl]

Inb4 he writes another book on why I'm an awful human being for not responding to his argument that he'll never let go off if I keep responding to him.

Did you see the shit he got into with DPG last week? Or his constant shit in the political forum? Guy will take one small part of your post that is incorrect or that he disagrees with and debate it with you for days until you finally get tired of him. :lol
I don't check the political forums... but I have seen the endless arguments. I want no part of it. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No. Mills will be back at the 2, hopefully

With Murray's size they could get away with playing both of them at the same time. Patty cannot guard league 2's.

[tholdren]

With Murray's size they could get away with playing both of them at the same time. Patty cannot guard league 2's.

Not true.

[TimDunkem]

Not true.
Get ready for a 4000 word response about why you're wrong and a total piece of shit if you're not ready to stretch the argument out over four pages.

[RD2191]

Get ready for a 4000 word response about why you're wrong and a total piece of shit if you're not ready to stretch the argument out over four pages.
I'm making coffee.:wakeup

[TimDunkem]

I'm making coffee.:wakeup
Please outline the parameters of why coffee is the optimal choice for consumption at this point in time rather than other caffeinated beverages. :nope

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not true.

What do you mean? You think Patty can guard 2's or you think there are other permutations that make sense?

[kaji157]

I still believe this is not set in stone. Spurs would be dumb to commit that much money this early on the free agency when price for «not starters» players will drop significantly in a few days.
I hope this is an understanding between mills and the Spurs that if he can get a better offer take it, but if we can get a better player will also go for it.
I really don't see patty as any kind of leader of this team as i also didn't see Diaw as a leader. Cultural continuation my ass. He is a good backup, and that is it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Please outline the parameters of why coffee is the optimal choice for consumption at this point in time rather than other caffeinated beverages. :nope

You didn't understand what I wrote so I broke it down and explained what I was saying. I never asked for parameters from you. Instead I had given parameters that were needed for a trade to take place.

You sure are butthurt though. You should take some of that energy and work on your reading and critical thinking skills instead.

[TimDunkem]

I haven't bothered to read almost anything you've spewed out, tbh. I just enjoy wasting your time. Find a friend, brah.

[RD2191]

Please outline the parameters of why coffee is the optimal choice for consumption at this point in time rather than other caffeinated beverages. :nope
:wakeup

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I haven't bothered to read almost anything you've spewed out, tbh. I just enjoy wasting your time. Find a friend, brah.

:lol Yet you are able to cherry pick "big words" from the middle of my posts and parrot them back in what you hope comes off as derisive. You're not credible.

There is no reason whatsoever to believe that a trade for Reddick is going to be easy to find. You've completely abandoned the topic and are now in full troll mode. People can see you for what you are.

:lol friends at spurstalk.

[tonight...you]

Oh goody! This turned into another Fuzz vs some random!
I love this stuff!

Fuzz, are you an attorney? I'd like to hire you to troll the sheeeeeit out of someone with some total BS lawsuits.
I'll pay... til I'm no longer interested.


OF course, I could also ask my brother rastaspur too, but you are so good at what you do and that's what I'm looking for.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh goody! This turned into another Fuzz vs some random!
I love this stuff!

Fuzz, are you an attorney? I'd like to hire you to troll the sheeeeeit out of someone with some total BS lawsuits.
I'll pay... til I'm no longer interested.


OF course, I could also ask my brother rastaspur too, but you are so good at what you do and that's what I'm looking for.

With a little over half the male population and maybe 10% of the female if you tell them that they are wrong, why they are wrong, and challenge them to prove themselves they get upset. It's like clockwork.

You have two main responses to that. First is to accept the challenge and try to prove me wrong in turn. The second is what you see with this sock, to avoid the challenge to fixate on something else, typically me.

Popovich would describe the people in the second group as "unable to get over themselves."

[TimDunkem]

I meant real friends, Fuzzy Tits. Figures you'd assume ST friends since real ones are more than likely out of the question for you. :lol

[tonight...you]

With a little over half the male population and maybe 10% of the female if you tell them that they are wrong, why they are wrong, and challenge them to prove themselves they get upset. It's like clockwork.

You have two main responses to that. First is to accept the challenge and try to prove me wrong in turn. The second is what you see with this sock, to avoid the challenge to fixate on something else, typically me.

Popovich would describe the people in the second group as "unable to get over themselves."
Right on, big daddy. You don't want to work with me. How could I have expected you to? You know beans about me and I just requested legal service over a public message board, stating my malign intentions.
I have been taught a lesson this day. Appreciate.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I meant real friends, Fuzzy Tits. Figures you'd assume ST friends since real ones are more than likely out of the question for you. :lol

:lol From the guy who bragged about wasting time.

FWIW, the current conversation on discord is about anti intellectualism and the dumbing down on the country and what to play other than Rocket League. Youre looking real good with your complaints about big words and 3 sentence paragraphs. Let's keep it going.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Right on, big daddy. You don't want to work with me. How could I have expected you to? You know beans about me and I just requested legal service over a public message board, stating my malign intentions.
I have been taught a lesson this day. Appreciate.

oh noes, the sock won't think I am your friend anymore. What can I do?

[Clipper Nation]

Fuzzy getting humiliated ITT like Hillary on election night :lol

[tonight...you]

oh noes, the sock won't think I am your friend anymore. What can I do?
:lol Hopefully the sock finds a foot to keep it warm and it's a clean foot. Dirty feet are nasty in socks. Especially in Texas heat.

[thunder]

With a little over half the male population and maybe 10% of the female if you tell them that they are wrong, why they are wrong, and challenge them to prove themselves they get upset. It's like clockwork.

You have two main responses to that. First is to accept the challenge and try to prove me wrong in turn. The second is what you see with this sock, to avoid the challenge to fixate on something else, typically me.

Popovich would describe the people in the second group as "unable to get over themselves."
Good heavens. Shut the fuck up already faggot.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have those socks on ignore. You're going to have to roll out other ones.

[TimDunkem]

God. Even people who don't know Fuzzy Tits anywhere but ST can't stand him. Can't imagine people who have to deal with him on a daily basis.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:cry complaining about big words didn't work so now I am going to make it a popularity contest :cry

:lol people

[tonight...you]

Good heavens. Shut the fuck up already faggot.
:lol Old boy is bristly, but he's doing it for his own pleasure, not yours. If you read with the right set of eyes, there are some cool things coming from his keyboard.

Yes, I am a Fuzzy apologist and I don't give a shit. Dude is cool in my book. TimmyDunkem is too, and I dig his style and aggressiveness, but Fuzz brings a Troll-Attorney attitude that is unflinching and erudite, most of the time.

I love it when Fuzz decides to throw rocks at someone's window.

[TimDunkem]

I'm almost certain arguing gives Fuzzy Tits a hard-on. What a freak. :lol

[thunder]

God. Even people who don't know Fuzzy Tits anywhere but ST can't stand him. Can't imagine people who have to deal with him on a daily basis.
:lol Probably some failed out Law School student or failed investor whose misery has been on full display ever since signing up for the site. Several times he admitted to being high while getting his shit pushed in. One time he even admitted to being sad. He's an emotional man. Probably an alcoholic too. Lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm almost certain arguing gives Fuzzy Tits a hard-on. What a freak. :lol

Fuzzy likes to argue? Ya think so huh?

All I can say is thank you for that, Big Words.

[tonight...you]

:lol Probably some failed out Law School student or failed investor whose misery has been on full display ever since signing up for the site. Several times he admitted to being high while getting his shit pushed in. One time he even admitted to being sad. He's an emotional man. Probably an alcoholic too. Lol
:lol
Dude... and you just could be right.
Although I thought most of us here were alcoholics...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm high right now, playing Rocket League, and talking shit between games.

:cry I'm so miserable right now :cry

:lol

I did like that part about criticizing someone because they felt sad at one point. People don't really seem to realize they reveal a lot about themselves in such statements.

[TimDunkem]

And you've revealed yourself to be an insufferable, pedantic fuck, with a sick obsession with being right and arguing night and day with people you don't even know. :lol

[tonight...you]

I'm high right now, playing Rocket League, and talking shit between games.

:cry I'm so miserable right now :cry

:lol

I did like that part about criticizing someone because they felt sad at one point. People don't really seem to realize they reveal a lot about themselves in such statements.
Rocket League is killer. And I'm not a big gamer. It's just damn fun. Haven't played in a hot minute though.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And you've revealed yourself to be an insufferable, pedantic fuck, with a sick obsession with being right and arguing night and day with people you don't even know. :lol

does this mean we can't be friends?

btw my obsession is with the truth. I welcome arguments and if you make a good point, I will acknowledge it. You have not even really tried. You started whining right off the bat.

It is interesting that you would say that when you got so completely asshurt because I said you were wrong. Introspection can be difficult.

[TimDunkem]

Clearly the only one asshurt is you, sad boy. And all because I said I didn't want to get into one of your ten page ST arguments that mean so much to you. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Rocket League is killer. And I'm not a big gamer. It's just damn fun. Haven't played in a hot minute though.

Yeah its real accessible for nongamers and gamers alike. It's why we're playing it and not playerunknown.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Clearly the only one asshurt is you, sad boy. And all because I said I didn't want to get into one of your ten page ST arguments that mean so much to you. :lol

Ahh yes the "I know you are but what am I" response. So compelling. :rolleyes

And you've been arguing with me all afternoon, smart guy. You've just been insistent about making it about my big words and friends as you dodge anything to do with basketball.

I find your ducking and dodging amusing. I do get sad from time to time though. Just not now. I guess you want me to be mad. Misery loves company after all.

[tonight...you]

Yeah its real accessible for nongamers and gamers alike. It's why we're playing it and not playerunknown.
I watched some gameplay of playerunknown and it looks intense. I don't think I would do any good in that kind of game (I'm terrible playing with keyboard/mouse), but I do enjoy watching and being a spotter for others.

[TimDunkem]

Lol All this because Fuzzy Tits can't possibly fathom how a one year contract for one of the best shooters in the NBA can be moved later on in the upcoming season. Take your bitching and arguing to the political forum, loser. :lol

[TimDunkem]

I watched some gameplay of playerunknown and it looks intense. I don't think I would do any good in that kind of game (I'm terrible playing with keyboard/mouse), but I do enjoy watching and being a spotter for others.I used to be that way, but I can't imagine using anything other than a mouse and keyboard now. I hardly even touch my ps4 now unless I'm playing 2k or watching PS Vue.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I watched some gameplay of playerunknown and it looks intense. I don't think I would do any good in that kind of game (I'm terrible playing with keyboard/mouse), but I do enjoy watching and being a spotter for others.

One friend of mine screams like a little girl through matches. It's hilarious as long as you turn it down. When it comes to shooters there are always going to be better players, its just how it is. Teamwork helps overcome a lot of that. I don't like to play them solo.

[Play Boban]

This could be the worst contract in NBA history. I can't believe this zero trick pony got such a fat contract. I hate on Porker, believe me, but he should miles better than this Aussie wanker tbh.

[tonight...you]

I used to be that way, but I can't imagine using anything other than a mouse and keyboard now. I hardly even touch my ps4 now unless I'm playing 2k or watching PS Vue.
Yeah... I need to just bite the bullet and get used to it. I know the benefits, but like I said, I'm not a big gamer and I work at complete random all the time so I just spend my off-time trying to enjoy the best I can.

[tonight...you]

One friend of mine screams like a little girl through matches. It's hilarious as long as you turn it down. When it comes to shooters there are always going to be better players, its just how it is. Teamwork helps overcome a lot of that. I don't like to play them solo.
Ha ha ha! I'm sure that's hilarious.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol All this because Fuzzy Tits can't possibly fathom how a one year contract for one of the best shooters in the NBA can be moved later on in the upcoming season. Take your bitching and arguing to the political forum, loser. :lol

A $23m contract. The 76ers are going to be topped out on cap after they resign Covington. A team looking for an expiring is going to be looking to free up cap space. They are not taking on bad contracts to rebuild with Embiid, Saric, Fultz, etc in tow.

On the flipside a team looking for a top shooter is looking to contend. What playoff team is far under the cap that can eat a $12m or so proration. As stated before, the 76ers are unlikely to want to take on bad contracts and at the same time a contender is not going to want to give up meaningful contracts.

I never said it was unfathomable. It's just not likely there are going to be a lot of good fits.

You cannot even restate my argument. No wonder why you run from it.

[TimDunkem]

So, in the end, you end up fucking agreeing with me that it isn't likely but totally possible. Nice job, dipshit. :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So, in the end, you end up fucking agreeing with me that it isn't likely but totally possible. Nice job, dipshit. :lmao

smh


He didn't "just sign" it. Also, it's a great deal for both camps. Philly gets top shooter and vet without committing long term, Reddick gets paid and, if it's a disaster, his contract is suddenly very tradable.

You cannot even keep up with your own horseshit. Your argument became mine. I await you making it about something else again.

[TimDunkem]

Tradable doesn't necessarily mean it's likely. Danny Green is very tradable but it isnt likely he's moved. Try to keep up, genuis.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Tradable doesn't necessarily mean it's likely. Danny Green is very tradable but it isnt likely he's moved. Try to keep up, genuis.

:lol it very tradeable but they are unlikely going to be able find a trade fit which means its not very tradeable.

[TimDunkem]

Says you and a million other fans who claim that this guy or that guy, or this contract and that contract can't be moved every year. Yet, every year, a contract like that is moved. Do you actually even watch the NBA? :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Says you and a million other fans who claim that this guy or that guy, or this contract and that contract can't be moved every year. Yet, every year, a contract like that is moved. Do you actually even watch the NBA? :lol

Now you have devolved into megalomania as if you are somehow more special than the other millions of fans. :lol

Meanwhile you are all over the place. I never said it could not happen. It's just the nature of the deal and the nature of teams that could be fit make it unlikely. You cannot even argue specific points and instead dissemble into this generalized strawman stupidity.

What players have I claimed could not be traded?

[TimDunkem]

Good God. Shut the fuck up and go cry into your pillow, sad man. :lol

[Big Empty]

Physically at 28 he's in his prime. 40% 3 point shooter. 20 million less a year than a 33 year old cp3. With he & Murry we are set for years to come. We were lacking a guard that can create and another 4 that can play C or PF. Simmons if he he works on his shot is an upgrade over Danny Green. Im still not sold on Slomo and Bertans.

[Baam]

Physically at 28 he's in his prime. 40% 3 point shooter. 20 million less a year than a 33 year old cp3. With he & Murry we are set for years to come. We were lacking a guard that can create and another 4 that can play C or PF. Simmons if he he works on his shot is an upgrade over Danny Green. Im still not sold on Slomo and Bertans.
Why do you even compare him to CP3 who is 10 times the defender and can actually run an offense...

Just compare him to 100 year old Manu who could still create and get to the rim against GS while Mills didn't do anything.

[tholdren]

Physically at 28 he's in his prime. 40% 3 point shooter. 20 million less a year than a 33 year old cp3. With he & Murry we are set for years to come. We were lacking a guard that can create and another 4 that can play C or PF. Simmons if he he works on his shot is an upgrade over Danny Green. Im still not sold on Slomo and Bertans.

Agree bertans will pan out and so will kyle once manu goes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good God. Shut the fuck up and go cry into your pillow, sad man. :lol

And now we are back to full deflecting. And you claim that I am the one that has a thing about always being right.

You changed your position. It is very clear to see. The contract is not very tradeable because of the high yearly salary and the nature of teams that are going to want such a contract/player.

Admit and move on. It shouldn't be a big deal.

[Ice009]

I still believe this is not set in stone. Spurs would be dumb to commit that much money this early on the free agency when price for «not starters» players will drop significantly in a few days.
I hope this is an understanding between mills and the Spurs that if he can get a better offer take it, but if we can get a better player will also go for it.
I really don't see patty as any kind of leader of this team as i also didn't see Diaw as a leader. Cultural continuation my ass. He is a good backup, and that is it.

Wow, I thought I was mad at this signing, but it seems you're beyond that and in denial about it. They wouldn't announce the signing if it wasn't pretty much set in stone.

[rastaspur]

Oh goody! This turned into another Fuzz vs some random!
I love this stuff!

Fuzz, are you an attorney? I'd like to hire you to troll the sheeeeeit out of someone with some total BS lawsuits.
I'll pay... til I'm no longer interested.


OF course, I could also ask my brother rastaspur too, but you are so good at what you do and that's what I'm looking for.

These guys need a mediator. I normally charge $250 an hour for that, but since one is a spurstalk friend I will cut my rate to $175.

Sounds like the mediation episode in its always sunny in philadelphia, but I'm game. :lol

[Keepin' it real]

This could be the worst contract in NBA history. I can't believe this zero trick pony got such a fat contract. I hate on Porker, believe me, but he should miles better than this Aussie wanker tbh.

:cry

[Play Boban]

:cry
Cry all you want, but if it's the truth you seek, my post is reeking of it. :wow

[SuperCam]

http://i.imgur.com/iqaUroK.png



Explain this PATFO suckers: RC panic signs Fatty at 12:01 while Worriors get a better guard for less than HALF the price paid for Fatty with a shorter deal too :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

http://i.imgur.com/iqaUroK.png



Explain this PATFO suckers: RC panic signs Fatty at 12:01 while Worriors get a better guard for less than HALF the price paid for Fatty with a shorter deal too :lmao
PATFO fluffers never respond to truth bombs. They're faggots.

Get ready to hear a response about 61 wins, culture, and a WCF appearance

[Clipper Nation]

This could be the worst contract in NBA history.
:lol It's not even the worst contract for a current Spurs point guard.

[cjw]

http://i.imgur.com/iqaUroK.png



Explain this PATFO suckers: RC panic signs Fatty at 12:01 while Worriors get a better guard for less than HALF the price paid for Fatty with a shorter deal too :lmao


But but but Patty looks like a PG!

Only reason to defend:
- Young was willing to take discount to play in GS. Deal may have never been available to Spurs or others.
- Mills signing would have allowed Spurs to use MLE/BAE elsewhere. Signing Young would have taken up significant chunk of cap space or MLE. Yes, I realize they haven't signed anyone with the MLE yet.

[Play Boban]

:lol It's not even the worst contract for a current Spurs point guard.

Yeah, but at least that is a loyalty contract. I don't know what this is? A full frontal contract?

[tholdren]

PATFO fluffers never respond to truth bombs. They're faggots.

Get ready to hear a response about 61 wins, culture, and a WCF appearance
Your posts are worse than the contract tbh

[noles1983]

Evans signs for 3 million and we get this aussie piece of shit for 4/50...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This is definitely a golden parachute / thanks for your contributions deal. Spurs have given one to each of our guards over the last several years.

It sucks, but it's how they operate. Sure we have another one coming here shortly with a shitty payback to Pau for opting out.

[tholdren]

Evans signs for 3 million and we get this aussie piece of shit for 4/50...

Evans looks like howard sterns beetlejuice

[tonight...you]

Evans looks like howard sterns beetlejuice
Ha ha ha ha!

[gambit1990]

$12.5 for patty is much better than $19 for hill.

patty had a hard time against the warriors? guess what, so did 29 teams for the past three years.

[gambit1990]

hill wasn't taking the spurs over the top.

i take patty, green, gay over hill, no green, gay.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The Spurs need to resign Marco so Patty isn't the only one on the team who can shoot a 3. Perhaps he'd get an occasional open look next time around.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This is definitely a golden parachute / thanks for your contributions deal. Spurs have given one to each of our guards over the last several years.

It sucks, but it's how they operate. Sure we have another one coming here shortly with a shitty payback to Pau for opting out.

I'm ok with Patty getting paid. He's been a true Spur. His 2013/2014 playoff performance was worth it.

Pau on the other hand.....

[Ice009]

I'm ok with Patty getting paid. He's been a true Spur. His 2013/2014 playoff performance was worth it.

Pau on the other hand.....

What did he do in 2013 and 2014? Why do people keep thinking he played big. It seems like all anyone remembers is game 5 of the finals and nothing else in the previous rounds.

[spursistan]

884466669862633473

Both Hill and the Spurs come out losers of this. You just don't fuckin' do 12:01 deals with role players..

What a pathetic amateur moment by PATFO..Even Green was made to wait in the 2015 off-season wile being more coveted in the market back then than Mills.....

[TimDunkem]

884466669862633473

Both Hill and the Spurs come out losers of this. You just don't fuckin' do 12:01 deals with role players..

What a pathetic amateur moment by PATFO..Even Green was made to wait in the 2015 off-season wile being more coveted in the market back then than Mills.....
They really needed him for the HEB commercials...Dat culture tho'.

[apalisoc_9]

884466669862633473

Both Hill and the Spurs come out losers of this. You just don't fuckin' do 12:01 deals with role players..

What a pathetic amateur moment by PATFO..Even Green was made to wait in the 2015 off-season wile being more coveted in the market back then than Mills.....

Yeah. If between Hill and Mills, I would have take Hill.

Still, way too risky. They made a decision. Can't say it was wrong. Doubt PATFO expected teams to let Hill slide.

[TD 21]

Yeah. If between Hill and Mills, I would have take Hill.

Still, way too risky. They made a decision. Can't say it was wrong. Doubt PATFO expected teams to let Hill slide.

It was wrong. It was obvious how this was going to play out on draft night, when word was Jazz were looking to acquire a starting PG. When they landed Rubio, that closed the book. Then word came Timberwolves were close to signing Teague, which made it obvious Hill was not only for the taking, but in the range I predicted all along. If they couldn't see that, they're fools . . . and if they were concerned with Kings offering significantly more, worst case scenario was signing Teodosic at a bargain.

[SAGirl]

Remember the rumoRs that Spurs already had a deal with Mills? Was that Lowe? Ya... sound like they did.

[objective]

$40 for 2 years with maybe a $2 hit on the third year cap would have been a godsend and a coup.

Hill realistically only has 2 years like this past one left.

2 years is perfect for what remains of his best years and insurance against injury, the perfect deal.

I also wonder why people insisting that Mills has a movable deal. If Mills shoots so poorly that he gets overtaken by Forbes or White and Murray .... Why would anyone else want to pick Mills up? An aging undersized back up who can't defend, run an offense, or shoot at a good enough clip in this scenario ... Nobody is going to dare pick up the remaining 3/37 or 2/25 or whatever without soaking the Spurs for picks and maybe dumping another toxic asset back on them.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Was Mills' agent a former used car salesman? He played RC Buffoon pretty good.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Only thing I can think is maybe Hill and his agent were looking for a four year deal and wouldn't budge on it. The rest of what he ended up with as far as dollars and years seems like it should easily have been doable for both parties.

[ace3g]

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[TimDunkem]

Got his money. Now he's getting fat.

Awesome.

[Chinook]

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Oh, it's a great deal if he doesn't get that $2 Million

[vander]

Oh, it's a great deal if he doesn't get that $2 Million

well at least it's something.

are all the details of Pau's contract known? could there be 8 mil of unlikely incentives in that deal?

[tbdog]

Whats the adv of giving out unlikely incentives?

[Chinook]

Whats the adv of giving out unlikely incentives?

They don't count against the cap if they aren't earned (unless they are in the first year of a deal).

[Dverde]

Clowns wanting Patty to sign for the vet min. Remember how he helped Spurs win a ring with a jacked up shoulder. He signed for his predicted value.

[Chinook]

Clowns wanting Patty to sign for the vet min. Remember how he helped Spurs win a ring with a jacked up shoulder. He signed for his predicted value.

Dude literally needs to get his shoulder fucked up again to get his shot back.

[Drom John]

OTOH, if Mills earns the unlikely incentive(s), then it his play makes the increased salary worthwhile for the Spurs.
Speculating, but don't these incentives usually mean being named to the All-Star game, MVP, DMVP, all-NBA?

[noles1983]

Dude literally needs to get his shoulder fucked up again to get his shot back.

[Capt Bringdown]

Better than winning the lottery. Lottery = pure luck, but Patty's actually being rewarded for being useless. That's straight-up gangsta.

[Ice009]

Dude literally needs to get his shoulder fucked up again to get his shot back.

How many people actually remember anything from Patty is those 2014 playoffs apart from the last few games of the finals.

He couldn't hit a shot to save his life in the OKC series. He wasn't shooting lights out in those playoffs at all. That's why I was very mad when the Spurs resigned him to the amount they've signed him. People are remembering wrong. He's never really had a great playoff run from start to finish, ever. 2014 he was good those last 3 finals game, and I'm thankful for that as those were masterpieces, but he wasn't that good at all for the majority of those playoffs. I'd say the 7 game series against the Clippers in 2015 was he best playoffs performance. The only problem with that is, Pop didn't play him enough to see if he could have sustained it. He played a fucked up Parker instead.

[tbdog]

They don't count against the cap if they aren't earned (unless they are in the first year of a deal).

But why does a player sign an unlikely incentive contract?

[SAGirl]

How many people actually remember anything from Patty is those 2014 playoffs apart from the last few games of the finals.

He couldn't hit a shot to save his life in the OKC series. He wasn't shooting lights out in those playoffs at all. That's why I was very mad when the Spurs resigned him to the amount they've signed him. People are remembering wrong. He's never really had a great playoff run from start to finish, ever. 2014 he was good those last 3 finals game, and I'm thankful for that as those were masterpieces, but he wasn't that good at all for the majority of those playoffs. I'd say the 7 game series against the Clippers in 2015 was he best playoffs performance. The only problem with that is, Pop didn't play him enough to see if he could have sustained it. He played a fucked up Parker instead.
Good observations and agree.

[TheDoctor]

But why does a player sign an unlikely incentive contract?
Maybe they agreed on 4yr/48? And PATFO threw those 2MM xtra as a motivation?

[Chinook]

But why does a player sign an unlikely incentive contract?

Sometimes a player is likely to earn those incentives of their role is supposed to change. Plus incentives let a guy bet on himself.

[dabom]

Patty Mills extra millions for every 20 butt-hurt ST'ers. :lol

[99 Problems]

Watch MVPatty when the Mavs took us to the dyen moments of game 7. Big plays late that series.

[Ice009]

Watch MVPatty when the Mavs took us to the dyen moments of game 7. Big plays late that series.

The dying moments of game 7? What year was this? Because last time we played the Mavs in a 7th game was 2014 and the Spurs blew them out. Parker was the guy that set the tone and dominated game 7.

[dabom]

Parker set the tone for game 7? :lmao

[Ice009]

Parker set the tone for game 7? :lmao

Yes. He completely DOMINATED the game. Are you retarded?

btw, Patty Mills, I don't remember him doing much and I looked it up. 2-8 from the field. How come no-one remembers that Patty Mills in the 2014 playoffs? I'd kick Mills straight to the curb if we could get back that Tony Parker. TP had a few monster games in those playoffs and that game 7 was one of his best.

[dabom]

Kawhi broke out that game. I'd say he set the tone faggot. :lmao

[Ice009]

Kawhi broke out that game. I'd say he set the tone faggot. :lmao

I disagree. Kawhi was the 4th leading scorer for the game. He had a very good game, but Parker was the player of the game.

[dabom]

I disagree. Kawhi was the 4th leading scorer for the game. He had a very good game, but Parker was the player of the game.



23-32

P. Mills (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa02.html) enters the game for T. Parker (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)






27-51

T. Parker (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) enters the game for M. Ginobili (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)




That second unit. :wow :lol

[dabom]

Top four players for the Spurs 2014 run, Duncan, Kawhi, Manu, Splitter. I don't know where Tony ranks now.

[Ice009]

Like, what angle are you trying to play?

Parker came out aggressive as fuck and had 14 points when he was subbed out towards the end of the first quarter. I remember the game, I don't know what you remember. He set the Spurs up for that entire game. He absolutely set the tone of the game with his aggression to start it.

Don't bother replying about this subject. I'm not interested in hearing anymore shit from you in regards to TP's game 7.

I agree with your ranking of Spurs players for the playoffs. Tony had some huge games. Game 3 in Portland was also a masterpiece from him, but overall, I'd put him 4th best Spurs playing of the playoffs tied with Splitter.

[dabom]

I was wrong on who played the biggest part that game. The second unit blew that game out. Kinda a lot like the 2014 run. :lmao

[cd98]

23-32

P. Mills (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa02.html) enters the game for T. Parker (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html)





27-51

T. Parker (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) enters the game for M. Ginobili (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)




That second unit. :wow :lol

Whoa now in fairness to all the facts, the Spurs bench that year was elite and destroyed everyone's bench. So Parker played well against the Mav starters, who kept the game kind of close, but once the benches came in, Spurs bench destroyed the Mav bench. But I don't get into who gets credits for wins because it's a team game and stats don't tell the whole story, especially not on 2014, which was a team in ever sense.

[spursistan]

Bump..

Post- 7/1/2017--12:01 AM:

The 50 Millions Man: 2 FGs/ 5 points/7 Personal fouls for this defensive stalwart in 2 fuckin games..:lol

[LakerHater]

Disappeared in the post season & still hasnt shown up!

[picnroll]

Money for nothing and chicks for free.

[K...]

He's fine, saves Manu the effort of bringing the ball up

[RD2191]

Money for nothing and chicks for free.

Dire straits

[TheGreatYacht]

Disappeared in the post season & still hasnt shown up!

[dabom]

Ya pussies be bitchen for 50 years how we lost to Houston again. :lmao

[spursistan]

Bump..

Post- 7/1/2017--12:01 AM:

The 50 Millions Man: 2 FGs/ 5 points/7 Personal fouls for this defensive stalwart in 2 fuckin games..:lol

[dabom]

Patty getting that cheddar. People bitching about a bulls game no one gonna give a shit about after today. :lmao

[dabom]

I can already tell who the shitty no one give a shit posters. :lol

[objective]

Mills and Pau, 27% of the cap on two guys who in the playoffs won't be playing 25 minutes a game or closing games unless there's injuries.

And in 19-20 when Kawhi gets his 35% of the cap, then Kawhi, Aldridge, Mills and Pau's stretched contract will be over 70% of the cap, plus Parker's sure to be forthcoming loyalty deal. 70+% of the cap for two starters.

This team is going to be in some bad, bad, bad salary cap hell all for the sake of two old backups.

[dabom]

Patty is getting 1/11th the salary. Ya bitching about him. :lmao

[Nathan89]

Because he sucks.

[bklynspursfan]

The dying moments of game 7? What year was this? Because last time we played the Mavs in a 7th game was 2014 and the Spurs blew them out. Parker was the guy that set the tone and dominated game 7.

It was definitely Parker. Dude has no idea what he's talking about. Look at the freaking headline from NBA.com lol

http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2014/westseries1/

Or the box score for that matter.

[SAGirl]

He has been pretty bad. I don't think I have ever seen such a bad stretch of games in a row by Patty. I saw it in the playoffs, but not in the RS.

[objective]

so many posters thinking it was a good deal or were fine with it.

congratulations

[Ice009]

so many posters thinking it was a good deal or were fine with it.

congratulations

Glad I wasn't one of them. I soured on him in the 2016 OKC series. That was pretty much it for me with him. He showed me against the teams the Spurs need to beat to have a chance to win it all, he's useless against those teams. Before 2008, the Spurs never ever used to re-sign players to lucrative contracts that failed in the playoffs multiple times. I used to love that. If you have two separate playoffs where you don't perform, you were pretty much guaranteed to be gone. They weren't going to waste money on you.

[Chillen]

That Mills contract is looking like a disaster of epic proportions. At least Pau Gasol is looking comfortable finally and trying out there so he's worth the contract.

[MaNu4Tres]

RC & Pop shit the bed with this one.

[ElNono]

Patty Meals needs to show up in the playoffs, tbh

[MaNu4Tres]

Crazy how many posters were on board with this massive mistake. This may be the worst deal every handed out by Pop & RC.

Even Rashos deal made more sense.

Can't run a PnR to save his life.

Can't defend anyone ( as a PG hes ranked 89th in DRPM out of 94 qualified PGs).

He was one of 5 FAs to get 4 guaranteed years lol. And no, 12.5 wasn't his market last year. Rose, Rondo, Mack, Jack, Calderon all got 1 year or 1+1 deals for barely anything. Collison got a 1 +1 yr deal for 10 mil per and hes 2x the player Patty is. Even Hill got less guaranteed $ than Patty and hes 3x the player Patty is. Dont forget Livingston and his 24 Mil dollar deal over 3 years lol.

The PG position was and is most saturated in the NBA, meaning the supply is plentiful for back up point guards..which mean less demand..which drives down price. Spurs massively overpaid.

[Chinook]

Mills has certainly been a disappointment, but there are two things to consider:

First is that the team is going to need Patty to play at a high level to reach its ceiling. It's the same thing with Parker, Green, Gay and Pau. They don't have a chance against the Warriors without their back court getting points, and out of the guards the team has Patty and Bryn are the only ones who have the potential to punch above their weight for a long stretch. Green can have a couple of great two-way games in a series, and Tony/Manu can turn the clock back for a bit. But only Patty is there to get points primarily, and he used to be really good at it. The team more needs him to play well than needs him gone, especially this year. Trading him and giving a permanent spot to Murray/Forbes isn't going to raise the team's ceiling this year.

Second is that when looking at opportunity cost, it is unhelpful to compare APYs. The team getting a better alternative than Patty would have involved going under the cap, which would have meant significantly more roster turnover. In a perfect world, both Mills and Gasol would have better deals. But this is likely the best roster the team could get personnel-wise outside of some minor moves (drafting Bell or bringing over Milutinov). Only substantial way would have involved finding positive trades for Parker and maybe Pau and Green.

[Raven]

deal looks awful at this point.. he needs to step up.

[SAGirl]

Patty isn’t able to guard anyone in the warriors. If he were to have been paid for that matchup it was a mistake. He’s been pretty awful against them in recent memory. He’s got no size and will rush up bad shots while getting blown by or posted up by Livingston on the other end. He started this season picking up right where he left off in the warriors series: sucking. He hasn’t been able to light up the warriors in a long time that I can recall.

He was paid for det leadership and culture. It’s very clear that's what he said. I never liked this signing either. I only stopped whining about it bc Pop made a big investment of 4 years of him and 4 years is a long time to be hating a core member of the team. It was wearing me out to be complaining about it all the time so I just moved on past it, but I never liked the signing either and it even surprised me how expensive his contract was and the years guaranteed to him.

He’s going to have to show up big time in the playoffs but then again he said “no pressure” so ???

[MaNu4Tres]

Mills has certainly been a disappointment, but there are two things to consider:

First is that the team is going to need Patty to play at a high level to reach its ceiling. It's the same thing with Parker, Green, Gay and Pau. They don't have a chance against the Warriors without their back court getting points, and out of the guards the team has Patty and Bryn are the only ones who have the potential to punch above their weight for a long stretch. Green can have a couple of great two-way games in a series, and Tony/Manu can turn the clock back for a bit. But only Patty is there to get points primarily, and he used to be really good at it. The team more needs him to play well than needs him gone, especially this year. Trading him and giving a permanent spot to Murray/Forbes isn't going to raise the team's ceiling this year.



You're not looking at the overall picture.

Mills is a net negative against the Warriors even when his shot is on. Why is this? Because of how they exploit him routinely on the defensive end. The other 4 on defense have work harder by helping him with doubles whenever the Warriors or other smart/great teams target him. If they are not sending doubles, they are aware of the situation going on and they tend to play a step closer to the strong side action Mills is a part of -- which can leave wider/easier passing lanes for wide open 3's/layups. Spurs have to move more to recover on defense when they exploit Mills. This contributes to fatigue quicker, which in turn, can hurt the Spurs offense.

How can this hurt the offense? 1) More energy expended on defense as a whole, leads to more fatigue and inefficiency on offense -- how much exactly? I'm not sure and its hard to quantify, but its common sense if you've played basketball before. 2) With Patty on the floor against the best teams that optimize their O by exploiting the Spurs' Parker/Patty weakness, the Spurs' offense will face a set defense more often than not, because the opposition gets to optimize their offense -- which means more taking the ball out of the basket -- which means more facing a set defense for the Spurs. The best defense leads to easy offense. Bad defense leads to dependency on great half court offense ( which Spurs don't have).

For the upcoming rebuttal, " well defense isn't the problem for the Spurs, they have the 2nd best defensive rating". Yes, the Spurs have graded out as a top defense overall in the NBA -- but those stats are fools gold to a degree because they're blended in against a lot of poor teams that just play. These poor teams don't optimize every possession on either end of the floor like the great teams do when it matters most. So while this stat is great to see, I still take it with a grain of salt because I understand the context behind it and all the bad teams that simply don't pay attention to the simple details like the Spurs do consistently. Spurs attack weaknesses on both ends, 90% of other teams do not. That is what makes them so damn consistent.

At the end of the day, if Spurs traded Mills and promoted Murray and Forbes, that would give this team a better chance against the Warriors because they are not defensive liabilities ( if Forbes is implemented as the smallest guy on the court and not used at the wing). You can not have a defensive liability on the perimeter against the Warriors who has inferior size, if you do -- Warriors will attack it relentlessly and it will slowly eat away at the Spurs' overall game. Optimize the defense, where Spurs don't have to utilize doubles, where the Spurs don't have to constantly rotate over when Mills' guy gets at the rim. Optimize stops, optimize transition opportunities -- easy points and optimize the touches for Kawhi, LA, Gay, Manu and Kyle on offense. That recipe will give the Spurs the best chance against the Warriors.

With Parker starting against the Warriors, and maybe the new Rockets, Mills hurts more than helps. Spurs would be better against those teams without him because going with both Parker or Mills on the floor for 48 minutes would be a massive uphill battle against such smart and elite perimeter oriented offenses. Spurs might be able to get away with one having a 20 minute role, but both for 48 minutes? Spurs would be lucky to win a game.

[r0drig0lac]

You're not looking at the overall picture.

Mills is a net negative against the Warriors even when his shot is on. Why is this? Because of how they exploit him routinely on the defensive end. The other 4 on defense have work harder by helping him with doubles whenever the Warriors or other smart/great teams target him. If they are not sending doubles, they are aware of the situation going on and they tend to play a step closer to the strong side action Mills is a part of -- which can leave wider/easier passing lanes for wide open 3's/layups. Spurs have to move more to recover on defense when they exploit Mills. This contributes to fatigue quicker, which in turn, can hurt the Spurs offense.

How can this hurt the offense? 1) More energy expended on defense as a whole, leads to more fatigue and inefficiency on offense -- how much exactly? I'm not sure and its hard to quantify, but its common sense if you've played basketball before. 2) With Patty on the floor against the best teams that optimize their O by exploiting the Spurs' Parker/Patty weakness, the Spurs' offense will face a set defense more often than not, because the opposition gets to optimize their offense -- which means more taking the ball out of the basket -- which means more facing a set defense for the Spurs. The best defense leads to easy offense. Bad defense leads to dependency on great half court offense ( which Spurs don't have).

For the upcoming rebuttal, " well defense isn't the problem for the Spurs, they have the 2nd best defensive rating". Yes, the Spurs have graded out as a top defense overall in the NBA -- but those stats are fools gold to a degree because they're blended in against a lot of poor teams that just play. These poor teams don't optimize every possession on either end of the floor like the great teams do when it matters most. So while this stat is great to see, I still take it with a grain of salt because I understand the context behind it and all the bad teams that simply don't pay attention to the simple details like the Spurs do consistently. Spurs attack weaknesses on both ends, 90% of other teams do not. That is what makes them so damn consistent.

At the end of the day, if Spurs traded Mills and promoted Murray and Forbes, that would give this team a better chance against the Warriors because they are not defensive liabilities ( if Forbes is implemented as the smallest guy on the court and not used at the wing). You can not have a defensive liability on the perimeter against the Warriors who has inferior size, if you do -- Warriors will attack it relentlessly and it will slowly eat away at the Spurs' overall game. Optimize the defense, where Spurs don't have to utilize doubles, where the Spurs don't have to constantly rotate over when Mills' guy gets at the rim. Optimize stops, optimize transition opportunities -- easy points and optimize the touches for Kawhi, LA, Gay, Manu and Kyle on offense. That recipe will give the Spurs the best chance against the Warriors.
good post

[ElNono]

Crazy how many posters were on board with this massive mistake. This may be the worst deal every handed out by Pop & RC.

Even Rashos deal made more sense.

Can't run a PnR to save his life.

Can't defend anyone ( as a PG hes ranked 89th in DRPM out of 94 qualified PGs).

He was one of 5 FAs to get 4 guaranteed years lol. And no, 12.5 wasn't his market last year. Rose, Rondo, Mack, Jack, Calderon all got 1 year or 1+1 deals for barely anything. Collison got a 1 +1 yr deal for 10 mil per and hes 2x the player Patty is. Even Hill got less guaranteed $ than Patty and hes 3x the player Patty is. Dont forget Livingston and his 24 Mil dollar deal over 3 years lol.

The PG position was and is most saturated in the NBA, meaning the supply is plentiful for back up point guards..which mean less demand..which drives down price. Spurs massively overpaid.

Perhaps PATFO just plainly thinks the Dubs can't be beat, and this is a thank you contract a la Malik Rose, that gives them value they can eventually move. Also, the Spurs in the TD era always had a liability on defense at the PG position, if we're being frank...

[MaNu4Tres]

Perhaps PATFO just plainly thinks the Dubs can't be beat, and this is a thank you contract a la Malik Rose, that gives them value they can eventually move. Also, the Spurs in the TD era always had a liability on defense at the PG position, if we're being frank...

The game has changed and the Warriors have moved the bar higher than its ever been. The league has never seen a perimeter offense like theirs. If you have a defensive liability on perimeter like Parker or Patty playing 48 minutes, you may as well start packing because you'll have no shot.

[tonight...you]

Perhaps PATFO just plainly thinks the Dubs can't be beat, and this is a thank you contract a la Malik Rose, that gives them value they can eventually move. Also, the Spurs in the TD era always had a liability on defense at the PG position, if we're being frank...
You just might be right, you magnificent butthole.

[spurs10]

The game has changed and the Warriors have moved the bar higher than its ever been. The league has never seen a perimeter offense like theirs. If you have a defensive liability on perimeter like Parker or Patty playing 48 minutes, you may as well start packing because you'll have no shot. Another playoff season like last year and people outside the Bay Area will be turning off in droves. When Durbeta gave up trying to compete with a 73 win team and joined them he made the NBA one step closer to WWE. Why does anyone give a damn if Durbeta gets another ring. Even he didn’t seem too excited about it. Maybe I’m wrong and people all around the country just love them being completely uncontested in the playoffs. :wakeup

[ElNono]

The game has changed and the Warriors have moved the bar higher than its ever been. The league has never seen a perimeter offense like theirs. If you have a defensive liability on perimeter like Parker or Patty playing 48 minutes, you may as well start packing because you'll have no shot.

There's no doubt about that. The real question is whether the Spurs feel they can't compete. Realistically, there's bigger fish to fry: if LMA can't abuse Draymond, we might as well pack our bags too...

[spurs10]

There's no doubt about that. The real question is whether the Spurs feel they can't compete. Realistically, there's bigger fish to fry: if LMA can't abuse Draymond, we might as well pack our bags too... Again if the Spurs with Kawhi or the Celtics can’t compete a lot of NBA fans will need to pack their bags and go on vacation earlier. It’s the only moderately intriguing thing about watching, just hoping someone can knock them out.

Can Kawhi save the NBA!? :ihit

[Chinook]

You're not looking at the overall picture.

Mills is a net negative against the Warriors even when his shot is on. Why is this? Because of how they exploit him routinely on the defensive end. The other 4 on defense have work harder by helping him with doubles whenever the Warriors or other smart/great teams target him. If they are not sending doubles, they are aware of the situation going on and they tend to play a step closer to the strong side action Mills is a part of -- which can leave wider/easier passing lanes for wide open 3's/layups. Spurs have to move more to recover on defense when they exploit Mills. This contributes to fatigue quicker, which in turn, can hurt the Spurs offense.

How can this hurt the offense? 1) More energy expended on defense as a whole, leads to more fatigue and inefficiency on offense -- how much exactly? I'm not sure and its hard to quantify, but its common sense if you've played basketball before. 2) With Patty on the floor against the best teams that optimize their O by exploiting the Spurs' Parker/Patty weakness, the Spurs' offense will face a set defense more often than not, because the opposition gets to optimize their offense -- which means more taking the ball out of the basket -- which means more facing a set defense for the Spurs. The best defense leads to easy offense. Bad defense leads to dependency on great half court offense ( which Spurs don't have).

For the upcoming rebuttal, " well defense isn't the problem for the Spurs, they have the 2nd best defensive rating". Yes, the Spurs have graded out as a top defense overall in the NBA -- but those stats are fools gold to a degree because they're blended in against a lot of poor teams that just play. These poor teams don't optimize every possession on either end of the floor like the great teams do when it matters most. So while this stat is great to see, I still take it with a grain of salt because I understand the context behind it and all the bad teams that simply don't pay attention to the simple details like the Spurs do consistently. Spurs attack weaknesses on both ends, 90% of other teams do not. That is what makes them so damn consistent.

At the end of the day, if Spurs traded Mills and promoted Murray and Forbes, that would give this team a better chance against the Warriors because they are not defensive liabilities ( if Forbes is implemented as the smallest guy on the court and not used at the wing). You can not have a defensive liability on the perimeter against the Warriors who has inferior size, if you do -- Warriors will attack it relentlessly and it will slowly eat away at the Spurs' overall game. Optimize the defense, where Spurs don't have to utilize doubles, where the Spurs don't have to constantly rotate over when Mills' guy gets at the rim. Optimize stops, optimize transition opportunities -- easy points and optimize the touches for Kawhi, LA, Gay, Manu and Kyle on offense. That recipe will give the Spurs the best chance against the Warriors.

With Parker starting against the Warriors, and maybe the new Rockets, Mills hurts more than helps. Spurs would be better against those teams without him because going with both Parker or Mills on the floor for 48 minutes would be a massive uphill battle against such smart and elite perimeter oriented offenses. Spurs might be able to get away with one having a 20 minute role, but both for 48 minutes? Spurs would be lucky to win a game.

Just a couple of points:

The game isn't played one-on-one. It's not the worst thing in the world to have Livingston shoot a higher percentage on a couple of his shots. Mismatches aren't a big deal. Patty on Shaun, Iggy or Young/McCaw is not going to be "worse" than Tony on Barnes. They can lose that match-up handily and still win games if Patty is scoring well.

The Spurs have almost always had a strong D despite never running a defensive-minded PG. PG defense isn't a big deal.

We already know Patty's ceiling and hopefully his floor. The Spurs need him to be as good as he was. That seems more possible than Murray being better than he he's ever. Dude was benched for a reason, despite his stats (which might be the most fool's gold thing about the team if used like some folks here do).

Not doubling might sound paradigmatic, but it's not something all that bad if you plan around it well enough. Golden State doubles all the time. Ignoring that Murray is NOT a good defender right now, him getting caught on Durant is going to bring help.

The "managing possessions" game is exactly why the Spurs are running two bigs and doing this slow post-up oriented game. A healthy Spurs team will be an above average team offensively and an elite one defensively.

[dabom]

Chinook with some real insight. I guess faggot43s just forgets the Spurs were winning with Patty at the helm. :lmao

That dude getting worse and worse about patty. Probably cause I shit on his takes all the time. :lol

[daslicer]

Another playoff season like last year and people outside the Bay Area will be turning off in droves. When Durbeta gave up trying to compete with a 73 win team and joined them he made the NBA one step closer to WWE. Why does anyone give a damn if Durbeta gets another ring. Even he didn’t seem too excited about it. Maybe I’m wrong and people all around the country just love them being completely uncontested in the playoffs. :wakeup

Warriors have too many bandwagon fans all across the country who will still watch the playoffs even if the Warriors win every game 140-0. Curry looking liking a 10 year old has massive appeal to people. The Warriors popularity among bandwagon fans all over the country reminds me of the 90's bulls popularity.

[Chillen]

Warriors have too many bandwagon fans all across the country who will still watch the playoffs even if the Warriors win every game 140-0. Curry looking liking a 10 year old has massive appeal to people. The Warriors popularity among bandwagon fans all over the country reminds me of the 90's bulls popularity.

Sick of the Bulls comparisons with the Warriors. Shaq didn't sign to team up with Jordan and Pippen. Warriors had one of the games best players sign with them when they went 73-9 the previous season and beat Durant's team in the playoffs. Shaq didn't leave Orlando and sign with the Bulls with Jordan and Pippen, he went to the Lakers. Warriors have so much elite talent (Curry, Durant, Thompson, Iggy, Green) and depth they will be a really tough out unless fatigue and injurys catch up. If people want to root for them fine, but with the Durant signing any 90's Bulls comparisons squashed and they lost to Cavs after going 73-9 without KD. They are an elite team in the NBA with a stacked roster, that's it.

[SAGirl]

Perhaps PATFO just plainly thinks the Dubs can't be beat, and this is a thank you contract a la Malik Rose, that gives them value they can eventually move. Also, the Spurs in the TD era always had a liability on defense at the PG position, if we're being frank...
They paid dear Bobo too but when he started slacking off he was gone. The team went a different direction. So, I never considered Patty someone you keep the entire 4 years necessarily, specially if the team needs to go in a different direction. If anything the fact he got an above average market deal makes it so they no longer owe him any debt in good conscience if they need to trade him. Now for this season, he needs to be better than he has been the past couple of playoffs and how he has been playing lately. And it’s not even about the shooting but careless stuff. TO that shouldn’t happen to someone with his experience. Throwing the ball at the feet of bigs, that sort of shit needs to change. He’s already not a good PNR PG, he needs to improve that stuff.

I still think the Spurs needed to go in a different direction but they couldn’t get who they really wanted so ....

[daslicer]

Sick of the Bulls comparisons with the Warriors. Shaq didn't sign to team up with Jordan and Pippen. Warriors had one of the games best players sign with them when they went 73-9 the previous season and beat Durant's team in the playoffs. Shaq didn't leave Orlando and sign with the Bulls with Jordan and Pippen, he went to the Lakers. Warriors have so much elite talent (Curry, Durant, Thompson, Iggy, Green) and depth they will be a really tough out unless fatigue and injurys catch up. If people want to root for them fine, but with the Durant signing any 90's Bulls comparisons squashed and they lost after going 73-9.

Emotional overreaction by you and this is coming from someone who hates the Warriors and actually grew up during the 90's watching the bulls. I agree with everything you said but I wasn't comparing the teams in my original post but comparing their levels of POPULARITY among bandwagon fans. Unfortunately I see the Warriors generating the same levels of bandwagon fandom that those Bulls teams did. In every game I watch on TV I see bandwagon warrior fans fill up opposing teams arenas much like the bulls bandwagon fans did during the 90's. I know casual fans who stopped watching the NBA years ago and now watch it again due to the Warriors. It's like I have said in a previous post that Curry looking like a harmless 10 year old has attracted a lot of these casual idiots. The league knows that these casuals and bandwagon fans will watch the Warriors regardless of who they face or how boring the match up is. Look at last year when Kawhi got injured and how the media and league were very happy about it despite a series that would have gone to 6-7 games ended up being a boring sweep. I didn't bother to watch last year's finals because I felt the Warriors would sweep the Cavs and it came across to me as a very lopsided matchup. It was the first finals since 1990 that I didn't watch and keep in mind I didn't start watching basketball until '91. Judging by the results I didn't miss anything but that series got the highest finals ratings since the Jordan era.

It sucks ass but I feel the Warriors could play my hschool basketball team and beat them 200-0 and they would still get high ratings. Warriors have a ridiculous level of popularity that I haven't seen since the Jordan bulls. I hope for our sake that the popularity doesn't last as long as it did with the 90's bulls. If the Warriors go back to the finals and sweep the Cavs the ratings will be a good indicator to see if people are starting to grow bored of the Warriors. What Durant did was a low character bitch move by joining the Warriors and he ended up ruining the game for hardcore real NBA fans but in the league and networks eyes that doesn't matter since he was able to attract a lot of casual and bandwagon fans.

[spurs10]

Warriors have too many bandwagon fans all across the country who will still watch the playoffs even if the Warriors win every game 140-0. Curry looking liking a 10 year old has massive appeal to people. The Warriors popularity among bandwagon fans all over the country reminds me of the 90's bulls popularity. I don’t doubt they have a lot of bandwagon fans. I just think the energy and excitement has and will continue to evaporate with the “140-0” non-competitive feel the NBA has now. The Bulls were a great team and had a lot of fans worldwide. There was an energy and excitement going on that changed the profile of the NBA. Like someone mentioned ‘Shaq’ didn’t join the Bulls. They lost on occasion.

My point is if no one can compete with Baby Face and crew then it will not be good for the NBA. Maybe I live in a vacuum, but the World Series and the Super Bowl were nationally a million times more celebrated. I didn’t see people paying much attention to the Finals. The whole playoffs involving GSW were really boring.

[spurs10]

If the Warriors go back to the finals and sweep the Cavs the ratings will be a good indicator to see if people are starting to grow bored of the Warriors. What Durant did was a low character bitch move by joining the Warriors and he ended up ruining the game for hardcore real NBA fans but in the league and networks eyes that doesn't matter since he was able to attract a lot of casual and bandwagon fans.

[daslicer]

I don’t doubt they have a lot of bandwagon fans. I just think the energy and excitement has and will continue to evaporate with the “140-0” non-competitive feel the NBA has now. The Bulls were a great team and had a lot of fans worldwide. There was an energy and excitement going on that changed the profile of the NBA. Like someone mentioned ‘Shaq’ didn’t join the Bulls. They lost on occasion.

My point is if no one can compete with Baby Face and crew then it will not be good for the NBA. Maybe I live in a vacuum, but the World Series and the Super Bowl were nationally a million times more celebrated. I didn’t see people paying much attention to the Finals. The whole playoffs involving GSW were really boring.

I agree with you that the Super Bowl and World series was much more exciting than the Finals . Last year throughout the whole entire playoffs I was just like you when it came to believing that nobody could be watching this bs but the Nielsen ratings revealed that the Warriors got the highest Finals ratings since the Jordan Bulls so it was disappointing. I guess that the ratings were high because they were a lot of idiots that thought Lebron could take out the Warriors but it was still disappointing to see. One thing I have noticed is ESPN is desperately trying to sell and market a Cavs-Warriors finals rematch by saying the Cavs have a chance with IT when we all know that's bs. If the re-match happens I hope the Warriors sweep the Cavs. I'm tired of this BS matchup and would enjoy the comedy of ESPN trying to spin how the Warriors going 16-0 is great for the league.

[spurs10]

I agree with you that the Super Bowl and World series was much more exciting than the Finals . Last year throughout the whole entire playoffs I was just like you when it came to believing that nobody could be watching this bs but the Nielsen ratings revealed that the Warriors got the highest Finals ratings since the Jordan Bulls so it was disappointing. I guess that the ratings were high because they were a lot of idiots that thought Lebron could take out the Warriors but it was still disappointing to see. One thing I have noticed is ESPN is desperately trying to sell and market a Cavs-Warriors finals rematch by saying the Cavs have a chance with IT when we all know that's bs. If the re-match happens I hope the Warriors sweep the Cavs. I'm tired of this BS matchup and would enjoy the comedy of ESPN trying to spin how the Warriors going 16-0 is great for the league. Yes a 16-0 playoff will not be good for their brand! :toast

[weeks]

And he most probably took a discount for the benefit of the team, unlike other Spurs' pgs...:lol
:lmao

[weeks]

Derrick White will be better than this shithead his rookie year.
good call

[Ice009]

lol. some real clowns in this thread that have never watched championship basketball. Patty never really was in the playoff rotation in 2014. He had a few good games as the 9th or 10th man and that's it.

[objective]

This thread is a wall of shame

SHAME!!!

[MaNu4Tres]

881000543858065408

The best writer in basketball can be wrong at times.

[TimDunkem]

The best writer in basketball can be wrong at times.

Guy is wrong more often than not nowadays, tbh. Hard to listen to his pod anymore with all of his awful proclamations. Still writes some good things now and then though.

[Budkin]

2 shots, 0 points. Good stuff.

[baseline bum]

Fuck me :pctoss

Looks like I underreacted to this abortion of a contract. I still can't understand why anyone would ever pay money to a fat Mills. If Patty was in shape I'd have taken the chance on the deal but when he's hiding his chins under that heavy beard he's fooling no one. Well, no one but RC apparently.

[objective]

What does it say about a player who signs the biggest deal of his life and then comes in a big fatass, declares that he has no pressure to perform, and also declares that he's only being paid make-up money for the past.

One word:

Cancerous.

Any other player on any other team does it and they get rightfully called a cancer.

Mills is a cancer on this team

[emanueldavidginobili]

3 fouls 0 points lmao what a joke

[dabom]

+1. :lmao

[DJR210]

I was sitting there high last night watching the game, and really had to wonder what it is that Patty "does".. outside of his spotty 3 point shot, what else is this guy good at :lol

[dabom]

I was sitting there high last night watching the game, and really had to wonder what it is that Patty "does".. outside of his spotty 3 point shot, what else is this guy good at :lol

Did we lose cause of him last night?

[MaNu4Tres]

I was sitting there high last night watching the game, and really had to wonder what it is that Patty "does".. outside of his spotty 3 point shot, what else is this guy good at :lol

Some of us have been saying this for over 3 years.

Glad everyone else has caught up.

[dabom]

I take that as a "no", faggots. :lmao

[dabom]

if patty had hit a shot spurs would have won

so, yep, patty lost it though his shitness

The whole team besides 2 players missed 3 shots or more. :lmao

[picnroll]

If White had played the 21:48 instead of Fatty would the Spurs have won? Undoubtedly. WTF Pop?

[dabom]

If White had played the 21:48 instead of Fatty would the Spurs have won? Undoubtedly. WTF Pop?

No you dumb fuck. :lmao

Patty was in the run to get us the lead early. :lmao

White playing and we get blown out early. :lmao

[spursistan]

^ This autistic midget is basically reduced to this line of "argument" when defending his boy: "Patty is good because I say so faggots :lmao"..

[picnroll]

Apparently Dumbom likes fat asses

[dabom]

^ This autistic midget is basically reduced to this line of "argument" when defending his boy: "Patty is good because I say so faggots :lmao"..

More like we were winning playoff games with him starting. :lmao

[dabom]

Taking out Batman out of Batman and Superman. :lmao

[dabom]

I've owned all ya posters. :lmao

[dabom]

also he sucks at defense and running the offense

+1. :lmao

[benefactor]

I was sitting there high last night watching the game, and really had to wonder what it is that Patty "does".. outside of his spotty 3 point shot, what else is this guy good at :lol
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/say-you-do-here.gif

[vy65]

Did we lose cause of him last night?

Did we win because of him?

[TheDoctor]

+1. :lmao


All +/- stats are bad you silly helmet headed faggot. No one uses plus minus you stupid fuck. :lmao


http://41.media.tumblr.com/bfa91dc537bbfe5ef6eedb4394d3c926/tumblr_inline_nsmtdcuQlj1s73kqe_400.jpg

[DJR210]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/say-you-do-here.gif

:lol right

[DJR210]

Can see why he was given a chance, but Kyle as the closer over TP or Manu was strange too

[dabom]

Did we win because of him?

We'll we didn't win, so...

[vy65]

We'll we didn't win, so...

What does that tell you about Patty's 0-2 game?

[dabom]

What does that tell you about Patty's 0-2 game?

4 assist Zero turnovers. +1. We didn't lose cause of him. End of story faggot. :lol

[dabom]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/bfa91dc537bbfe5ef6eedb4394d3c926/tumblr_inline_nsmtdcuQlj1s73kqe_400.jpg

Not a one game sample size faggot. :lmao

[vy65]

4 assist Zero turnovers. +1. We didn't lose cause of him. End of story faggot. :lol

No. He didn't help the team win, which is his job. This isn't hard to understand.

[dabom]

No. He didn't help the team win, which is his job. This isn't hard to understand.

That's your point of view. Which is wrong. :lmao

[spursistan]

+1. :lmao


http://41.media.tumblr.com/bfa91dc537bbfe5ef6eedb4394d3c926/tumblr_inline_nsmtdcuQlj1s73kqe_400.jpg

:lmao..

[dabom]

Things that can't be right.

"Patty sucks"

Gets 50 mil.

:lmao

Shitty posters. :lmao

[vy65]

That's your point of view. Which is wrong. :lmao

No, it's reality. He gets paid a substantial salary to win games. He didn't contribute last night and we lost as a result. It's very simple.

[dabom]

No, it's reality. He gets paid a substantial salary to win games. He didn't contribute last night and we lost as a result. It's very simple.

Spurs were playing without Kawhi, Gay, LMA (50 million total salaries). What did you expect? :lmao

Don't see you bitching in the fathead threads. :lmao

[vy65]

Spurs were playing without Kawhi, Gay, LMA (50 million total salaries). What did you expect? :lmao

Don't see you bitching in the fathead threads. :lmao

I expect a player earning 12/year to contribute more than 0-2 in a game where we lost.

How much does Fathead make in a year?

[dabom]

I expect a player earning 12/year to contribute more than 0-2 in a game where we lost.

How much does Fathead make in a year?

Well he was. In fact the Spurs were winning when he was on the floor last night. :lmao

[vy65]

Well he was. In fact the Spurs were winning when he was on the floor last night. :lmao

Fake news. We lost. And his contribution was an 0-2 shitfest.

How does Fathead's salary compare to Fatty's? You didn't answer.

[dabom]

Fake news. We lost. And his contribution was an 0-2 shitfest.

How does Fathead's salary compare to Fatty's? You didn't answer.

I said facts you dumb fuck. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Tbh, no LMA, Kawhi, or Gay is an even bigger reason why you can't lay an egg out there and put up 0 points. Mills plays a sixth man type role and it's not like anyone was taking his shots. 0 in that situation is inexcusable.

[vy65]

I said facts you dumb fuck. :lmao

No, you didn't.

How does Fathead's salary compare to Fatty's?

[vy65]

I'll help you out: one makes $10.71 million and the other makes $2.15 million. Guess which is which.

[dabom]

No, you didn't.

How does Fathead's salary compare to Fatty's?

Well I did, you dumb fuck. :lmao

[vy65]

Well I did, you dumb fuck. :lmao


How does Fathead's salary compare to Fatty's?

Why can't you answer this? It's very simple. Just look a couple posts up.

[dabom]

Why can't you answer this? It's very simple. Just look a couple posts up.

Fathead is on a rookie contract. :lol

Should Kawhi produce 12 times more than fathead? That doesn't make sense. :lmao

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Should green make 6 times more than fathead. :lmao

[vy65]

Fathead is on a rookie contract. :lol

Should Kawhi produce 12 times more than fathead? That doesn't make sense. :lmao

Should the guy making 5x as much as Fathead go 0-2? Now that doesn't make any sense.

[vy65]

Should green make 6 times more than fathead. :lmao

Do you think Patty earned his paycheck last night?

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Should the guy making 5x as much as Fathead go 0-2? Now that doesn't make any sense.

We'll he played better than fathead so... :lmao

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Do you think Patty earned his paycheck last night?

He's one of the only few players that have. :lmao

Do you know what a salary is? It means total. :lmao