REPORT: Spurs sign Rudy Gay

[lilbthebasedgod]

First

[cutewizard]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[ulosturedge]

lol

[Strategic]

Sweet soap

[dabom]

Get in. Choo choo. :lol

[cd98]

Don't drop the soap.

[cutewizard]

We got Gay, boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

it begins


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883117051312779264

Sources: Rudy Gay's deal with the Spurs: two-years, $17M-plus with a player option.

[cjw]

This wins over cathedral. Lock the other thread

[mookie2001]

Bottom.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Thank you PATFO!!!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ibjNXuZlwo

[elemento]

:lol

[140]

:lol

[Chris]

I prefer the grove to the bathhouse :lol

[cutewizard]

Kawhi plus Gay, =========== best wing in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo


:bobo

[Strategic]

Don't drop the soap.Well, it is Mr. Gay

[Darius Bieber]

Gotta get that jersey now tbh.

[Chris]

Bad mod :lol

[phxspurfan]

Jersey sales will be superrrr

[cutewizard]

omg, it begins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at last gentlemen, we shall play now, hahahahahahahahahaha

omg, that waiting..................

please feel free to pour in your comments guys

FOUNDERS AND ADMINS, thank you for letting me start this thread, hehe

[jag]

:lol The mods have turned into massive fags

this thread was originally called The Bathhouse of Rudy Gay

[keithington1]

Holy fuk me Finally some SA activity

[Budkin]

Gas up those river boats boys! :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Love Gay. No homo.

[dabom]

I was the first breaking. WtF MODs? :lmao

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Gay

[tim_duncan_fan]

Yes. Someone unafraid to shoot the damn ball.

[ulosturedge]

This thread was created first. I didn't know Gay was coming off an achilles injury... FO and their constant love affair with nba stars pass their prime. Hopefully Gay has something left in the tank.

[therealtruth]

Does this mean not keeping David Lee?

[noles1983]

Hopefully isnt completely damaged goods from that achilles injury.

[cutewizard]

hey Admins, you deleted my thread, hu hu

[I. Hustle]

For Noche Latino nights, I'm going to get a jersey that says Joto.

[HarlemHeat37]

Probably finished as a notable player, but pretty low risk at that price(along with having limited options, at this point), tbh..not a fan of this signing, overall, though..

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

[sexinthatsx]

This signing is very questionable to me...

[jag]

This is a sad day for the Spurs as a franchise.

Rudy fucking Gay is being paired with Lamarcus to support Kawhi.

[Chris]

8.5 per is a bargain :lol Based front office wins again.

[cutewizard]

Are we now the solid number two in the West guys?????

What do you think?

[dabom]

Probably finished as a notable player, but low risk at that price, tbh..hopefully the 2nd year isn't a player option, make sure he's still in SA if he miraculously recovers(meaning still productive) from the Achilles tear..

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

"Youth Movement" - SAGirl somewhere

[timtonymanu]

This is a sad day for the Spurs as a franchise.

Rudy fucking Gay is being paired with Lamarcus to support Kawhi.

[cd98]

Hope this Gay Spur marriage works out.

[RD2191]

This is a sad day for the Spurs as a franchise.

Rudy fucking Gay

A post injury gay. :lol

[bklynspursfan]

But PATFO is standing Pat and doesn't want to make improvements , that's what most said here.

He'll help for sure if healthy. Another wing who can create his own shot, for sure helps if Kawhi has to sit out an extended time

[Down Under]

OMFG

[Chinook]

Probably finished as a notable player, but low risk at that price, tbh..hopefully the 2nd year isn't a player option, make sure he's still in SA if he miraculously recovers(meaning still productive) from the Achilles tear..

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

It is a player option. And it doesn't suck for Anderson until the Spurs sign some bigs. Maybe they'll actually let him be a PF this time around.

[cutewizard]

8.5 per is a bargain :lol Based front office wins again.


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:bobo

[Chris]

Hope this Gay Spur marriage works out.

Poop is a liberal :lol

[loveforthegame]

:tu

[Mugen]

Probably finished as a notable player, but pretty low risk at that price(along with having limited options, at this point), tbh..not a fan of this signing, overall, though..

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

2nd year is a player option :lol

[bic50]

Atleast the Spurs aren't standing pat

[Chris]

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:bobo

:toast

[ace3g]

When I think of Rudy Gay, I think of how far Kawhi has developed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJW9w6_A_I

[Russ]

This is the one guy GS wanted and didn't get.

:flag:

[Boogie Munster]

WK7lIjFsGvg

[Pavlov]

So gay.883119831582724097

[Down Under]

I hope this is to replace Simmons

[Leetonidas]

Hopefully this RGay works better than the last one

[keithington1]

We need people who aren't bitches. Rudy Gay ain't no bitch. I approve.

[Horse]

The guy can score. And if he buys in his length on D could be real nice.

[Russ]

I hope this is to replace Simmons

Let's get 'em both.

[JR3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ibjNXuZlwo
Lord knows we need that type of game from Dudy against the bucks... who normally have the drop on us.

[bklynspursfan]

The guy can score. And if he buys in his length on D could be real nice.

Agreed. Also known to hit clutch shots

[cd98]

Hope D Rob keeps coming to the game. Gay fan he is not.

[DaBears]

Hopefully isnt completely damaged goods from that achilles injury.

He has been given the Green light to play!! He is fine now, Gay is a nice pick up for the SPURS.. I had mentioned in other threads, that Rudy G & Paul G had been the only players in the league on a 1 on 1 matchup that had given KL really any problems.. I think he is a good replacement for JSIMS if we cannot get him back.. And Rookie White would be a good replacement for (current) Manu as far as what his current productivity numbers are if he doesn't come back..

[ace3g]

883119831582724097

[brucebowensghost]

:bobo

[DesignatedT]

When will he be healthy? Will he be ready for camp?

[cutewizard]

At least the Spurs are doing something.............

[Emperor]

Main St. Strip in SA bout to be lit up with them GAY Spurs jerseys.

[coachmac87]

When will he be healthy? Will he be ready for camp?

According to agent he's already doing "basketball things"

[RD2191]

Pop needs to let him do his thing if it's going to work out. Sometimes I feel as if the Spurs fuck around too much with the way their free agent signings play.

[Hoops Czar]

When will he be healthy? Will he be ready for camp?

What are you talking about? He's not healthy?

[ducks]

What are you talking about? He's not healthy?

he is coming off injury that is why the mle
he rehabbed in Austin texas
DOES ANYONE FOLLOW THE NBA OR JUST SPURS?

[dabom]

Pop needs to let him do his thing if it's going to work out. Sometimes I feel as if the Spurs fuck around too much with the way their free agent signings play.

Pop let LMA do his thing...

[HarlemHeat37]

It's been so strange watching the Spurs transition into a team with several 1 on 1 players, tbh:lol never thought I'd see Rudy Gay in a Spurs uniform..

[DaBears]

At least the Spurs are doing something.............

For sure....

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Holy shit :lol :lol

[Mr. Body]

It's been so strange watching the Spurs transition into a team with several 1 on 1 players, tbh:lol never thought I'd see Rudy Gay in a Spurs uniform..

Uh... who exactly are those other one on one players?

[DesignatedT]

When Warriors play Dramond at the 5 go Anderson - Simmons - Green.- Leonard - Gay

[Mugen]

http://i.imgur.com/A356jiI.gif

[HarlemHeat37]

When will he be healthy? Will he be ready for camp?

He's already healthy..the concern is that he's coming off an injury that kills careers..

[Barfunk]

I'm liking this, I'm liking this.

[Mnky]

Every top team in the West wanted this guy. He clearly had his choice, and went with best fit. He has opportunity to play large minutes with spurs who lack scoring punch. Can also be a good defender when motivated. Sure this will be the best team he has ever been on. If he comes back healthy and can replicate last season or similar, he's a great pickup for spurs.

[TheRemix]

I want to see a mills, simmons, gay, kawhi, lma lineup

[Chinook]

Uh... who exactly are those other one on one players?

Kawhi and LMA.

[DaBears]

It's been so strange watching the Spurs transition into a team with several 1 on 1 players, tbh:lol never thought I'd see Rudy Gay in a Spurs uniform..

They have to do something, to make sure they stay competitive in this new NBA.. cough cough!! I mean western conference.

[Spur|n|Austin]

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[LaMarcus Bryant]

When I think of Rudy Gay, I think of how far Kawhi has developed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJW9w6_A_I

Kawhi shut his ass down his rookie season during 1 reg season game

[ernest787]

Spurs needed someone else who can create their own shot. Gay has proven over his career he can do that. He will take a lot of the pressure off Kawhi. Love his length and size as well.

[TDomination]

Finally! Happy with the signing

[Chinook]

I want to see a mills, green, gay, kawhi, lma lineup

Your wish will likely come to pass.

[ulosturedge]

Hmm he's only 30. Some reason I thought he was older. Let's hope he can bounce back from his injury and then hope Pop can raise his bb IQ.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

For Noche Latino nights, I'm going to get a jersey that says Joto.

:lol

[024]

Great deal but really wish the Spurs stop giving players a player option on the second year. This most likely is for one year only unless Gay doesn't recover well and just sits there eating cap space.

Gay should replenish the bench and maybe even have some closeout potential if he ever recovers successfully.

[NASpurs]

883119831582724097

Gay...

[NASpurs]

http://i.imgur.com/A356jiI.gif

:lol same here man

[Kyle Orton]

Agreed. Also known to hit clutch shots

:lmao when has he ever even been in a position to hit clutch shots?

[Hoops Czar]

he is coming off injury that is why the mle
he rehabbed in Austin texas
DOES ANYONE FOLLOW THE NBA OR JUST SPURS?

:lmao They wasted the MLE on a player coming off a serious injury AND they gave him a player option for next year. :lmao

[I. Hustle]

Spurs needed someone else who can create their own shot. Gay has proven over his career he can do that. He will take a lot of the pressure off Kawhi. Love his length and size as well.

Bend over, I'll show you length and size

[Dverde]

Spurs going to set a record for contested 2 pt jumpshots! Go Spurs Go!

[I. Hustle]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvOIcG0RpzxqLrBXkmNrn4mtXF-6fNTsQxUtqInOPN7Y7NyqhpLg

[RD2191]

:lmao when has he ever even been in a position to hit clutch shots?

bkspursfan is an idiot. One of the dumbest posters on ST.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrKrocLRN0

[Chinook]

:lmao when has he ever even been in a position to hit clutch shots?

Seriously? That was his thing in Memphis.

[bklynspursfan]

:lmao when has he ever even been in a position to hit clutch shots?


Seriously? That was his thing in Memphis.

Yup. Someone doesn't pay attention lol

[DesignatedT]

I like the deal all things considered. Doesn't hamper the Spurs plans for next off-season. Simmons on the other hand will be interesting. Not sure the Spurs initially thought Simmons would be in the long-term plans for the franchise so I'm interested to see what they do there. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided not to match considering the clear plan for next off-season.

[coachmac87]

:lmao They wasted the MLE on a player coming off a serious injury AND they gave him a player option for next year. :lmao

They didn't waste the MLE..

[cjw]

:lmao They wasted the MLE on a player coming off a serious injury AND they gave him a player option for next year. :lmao

He did just dump his player option that would have given him that much money in one year. If he's truly done, he's not giving up that guaranteed Sacramento money.

[Kyle Orton]

Seriously? That was his thing in Memphis.

:rollin the most success Memphis had while he was there was him sitting in a suit when the Spurs received 8

[peacemaker885]

Yes. Someone unafraid to shoot the damn ball.

[Gutter92]

I like the deal all things considered. Doesn't hamper the Spurs plans for next off-season. Simmons on the other hand will be interesting. Not sure the Spurs initially thought Simmons would be in the long-term plans for the franchise so I'm interested to see what they do there. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided not to match considering the clear plan for next off-season.

Sweet deal

[sasaint]

:lmao They wasted the MLE on a player coming off a serious injury AND they gave him a player option for next year. :lmao

Heck, even if the Spurs had the second year option, they would never have the heart to decline it.

[jimbo]

:lmao when has he ever even been in a position to hit clutch shots?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv2HR5dbZXU

[Down Under]

He's already healthy..the concern is that he's coming off an injury that kills careers..
Yep can only think of Dominique who kept playing at all star level

[cutewizard]

Every top team in the West wanted this guy. He clearly had his choice, and went with best fit. He has opportunity to play large minutes with spurs who lack scoring punch. Can also be a good defender when motivated. Sure this will be the best team he has ever been on. If he comes back healthy and can replicate last season or similar, he's a great pickup for spurs.


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[bklynspursfan]

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[keithington1]

NEED Simmons and Nobili Back!

[Chris]

Yup. Someone doesn't pay attention lol

Suns fan trolling :lol

[ace3g]

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[IronMexican]

For Noche Latino nights, I'm going to get a jersey that says Joto.

:lol

[cutewizard]

I like the deal all things considered. Doesn't hamper the Spurs plans for next off-season. Simmons on the other hand will be interesting. Not sure the Spurs initially thought Simmons would be in the long-term plans for the franchise so I'm interested to see what they do there. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided not to match considering the clear plan for next off-season.


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What's the plan for next offseason Sir?

[vy65]

Sp:lolrs

Can we trade for Wes Matthews? Bring Kobe out of retirement? I'd love to see a lineup of players coming off of career-killing injuries

[Hoops Czar]

He did just dump his player option that would have given him that much money in one year. If he's truly done, he's not giving up that guaranteed Sacramento money.

Exactly. He's here for two years unless he's bought out in the 2nd due to sucking. They'll still have enough to sign a max player with Aldridge and Parker coming off the books but, I wanted the option of 2 max players. What is it with the Spurs and reclamation projects? :lol

[NASpurs]

For Noche Latino nights, I'm going to get a jersey that says Joto.

Yeah Noche Latino nights... just admit that it's your default jersey.

[Chinook]

:rollin the most success Memphis had while he was there was him sitting in a suit when the Spurs received 8

Most success Joe Johnson's had was getting bounced in the second round. Doesn't mean that people don't consider him clutch.

[Russ]

Gay, Aldridge and Kawhi on the front line.

That just sounds impressive.

[ace3g]

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[Phenomanul]

His most recent stats look "ok"... but his career, year-by-year advanced metric stats look somewhat mediocre... (WS/48, PER, DBPM, ORTG, DRTG, etc...)

[spurs10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrKrocLRN0 Thanks ace3g!

[NASpurs]

So now we have old guys past their primes, guys coming off huge injuries on the team... what else is there? Anyone left with drug abuse problems? Is Ty Lawson available?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Awww an Achilles?

Not hyped now.

[Biggems]

The Spurs have succeeded in their pursuit of happiness

[Mr. Body]

883125592480112640

Well, the Spurs certainly kept this under wraps.

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl52N_lHrhI

[Phenomanul]

Is he going to wear a different jersey number?

8.5 million is a bargain considering...

[spurraider21]

we need to trade for love and ramon sessions to fulfill the prophecy of "gay love sessions"

and throw in some cousins

[sananspursfan21]

Yes!!!! Scoring!!!!!!!

[vy65]

C:lolrlet:loln

[BD24]

Anyone seen contract details? If we didn't pay him much this is a decent signing

[bklynspursfan]

Well, the Spurs certainly kept this under wraps.

But if you listen to Spurstalk, because we heard nothing like this, it meant they weren't doing anything lol

[rastaspur]

http://i.imgur.com/A356jiI.gif

[HarlemHeat37]

This will be the most difficult test for the Rudy Gay challenge, tbh..it's a curse that has haunted every team he has played for(Sacramento didn't change, though)

2005-2006 Grizzlies: 49-33
2006-2007 Grizzlies with Rudy Gay: 22-60

2009-2010 Grizzlies with Gay: 40-42
2010-2011 Grizzlies with Gay missing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs: 46-36, famously embarrassing the 1 seed Spurs

2012-2013 Grizzlies after trading Rudy Gay: WCFS
2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: 34-48

2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: missed playoffs
2013-2014 Raptors trade Gay: 48 wins, HCA in playoffs

2012-2013 Kings without Gay: 28 wins
2014 Kings: 28 wins

2017 Spurs: 61 wins
2018 Spurs: ???

[Mr. Body]

This will be the most difficult test for the Rudy Gay challenge, tbh..it's a curse that has haunted every team he has played for(Sacramento didn't change, though)

2005-2006 Grizzlies: 49-33
2006-2007 Grizzlies with Rudy Gay: 22-60

2009-2010 Grizzlies with Gay: 40-42
2010-2011 Grizzlies with Gay missing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs: 46-36, famously embarrassing the 1 seed Spurs

2012-2013 Grizzlies after trading Rudy Gay: WCFS
2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: 34-48

2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: missed playoffs
2013-2014 Raptors trade Gay: 48 wins, HCA in playoffs

2012-2013 Kings without Gay: 28 wins
2014 Kings: 28 wins

2017 Spurs: 61 wins
2018 Spurs: ???

I'd be okay with tanking.

[cjw]

we need to trade for love and ramon sessions to fulfill the prophecy of "gay love sessions"

and throw in some cousins

Big3 League team in 15 years

[DesignatedT]

So now we have old guys past their primes, guys coming off huge injuries on the team... what else is there? Anyone left with drug abuse problems? Is Ty Lawson available?

:lol

[8FOR!3]

So now we have old guys past their primes, guys coming off huge injuries on the team... what else is there? Anyone left with drug abuse problems? Is Ty Lawson available?

Nothing on the stat sheet says he's past his prime. 30 should still be the guy's prime. Even if he diminishes some physically he's always been a good athlete. Obviously the big injury is the risk and I'm sure it's a calculated one. It also probably cut his cost in half, shit likely more than that

[BatManu20]

Sounds Gay. I'm in :tu

[ECOV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NEeMspk_UA

[Steve-O-Matic]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2964338.1486244480!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/rudy5s-1-web.jpg
http://funnypictures3.fjcdn.com/comments/No+homo+_aa5e5fca545c305f8a25b603e5e5fa27.jpg

[NASpurs]

This will be the most difficult test for the Rudy Gay challenge, tbh..it's a curse that has haunted every team he has played for(Sacramento didn't change, though)

2005-2006 Grizzlies: 49-33
2006-2007 Grizzlies with Rudy Gay: 22-60

2009-2010 Grizzlies with Gay: 40-42
2010-2011 Grizzlies with Gay missing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs: 46-36, famously embarrassing the 1 seed Spurs

2012-2013 Grizzlies after trading Rudy Gay: WCFS
2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: 34-48

2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: missed playoffs
2013-2014 Raptors trade Gay: 48 wins, HCA in playoffs

2012-2013 Kings without Gay: 28 wins
2014 Kings: 28 wins

2017 Spurs: 61 wins
2018 Spurs: ???

The Gay Curse, which now I fully expect Kawhi going down with some shitty injury and Kyle Anderson starting in his place.

[sananspursfan21]

This is a sad day for the Spurs as a franchise.

Rudy fucking Gay is being paired with Lamarcus to support Kawhi.

I definitely agree, but in the context of how free agency has been going, I'm happy

[TrainOfThought5]

Probably finished as a notable player, but pretty low risk at that price(along with having limited options, at this point), tbh..not a fan of this signing, overall, though..

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

Kyle sucks for himself. He hasnt taken advantage of any opportunity to be a difference maker on this team.

[Russ]

I'd like to know what happed between Gay and GS.

Did the Warriors back off from risk? Or were the Spurs able to offer more?

[sammy]

:lol

Lol!:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:lob t::rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[8FOR!3]

This will be the most difficult test for the Rudy Gay challenge, tbh..it's a curse that has haunted every team he has played for(Sacramento didn't change, though)

2005-2006 Grizzlies: 49-33
2006-2007 Grizzlies with Rudy Gay: 22-60

2009-2010 Grizzlies with Gay: 40-42
2010-2011 Grizzlies with Gay missing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs: 46-36, famously embarrassing the 1 seed Spurs

2012-2013 Grizzlies after trading Rudy Gay: WCFS
2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: 34-48

2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: missed playoffs
2013-2014 Raptors trade Gay: 48 wins, HCA in playoffs

2012-2013 Kings without Gay: 28 wins
2014 Kings: 28 wins

2017 Spurs: 61 wins
2018 Spurs: ???

That was also an era when he was the main guy and expected to put up 20 ppg

[steeledl]

Pretty good price and a short term deal. Hopefully he has more left than I think but it is worth the risk.

[phxspurfan]

This is like if we signed 2012 RJ. Not bad but not great.

Upside : 2012 RJ

Downside : 2004 Glenn Robinson

[HarlemHeat37]

Kyle sucks for himself. He hasnt taken advantage of any opportunity to be a difference maker on this team.

Depends how you look at it..there's a double-standard on this forum where people gushed over Simmons for his decent series vs. GS, yet ignore that Anderson played well against them in the same series(personally, I think it was clearly a meaningless series once Kawhi went down, but still, obvious double standard)..

[Atl Spur]

This will be the most difficult test for the Rudy Gay challenge, tbh..it's a curse that has haunted every team he has played for(Sacramento didn't change, though)

2005-2006 Grizzlies: 49-33
2006-2007 Grizzlies with Rudy Gay: 22-60

2009-2010 Grizzlies with Gay: 40-42
2010-2011 Grizzlies with Gay missing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs: 46-36, famously embarrassing the 1 seed Spurs

2012-2013 Grizzlies after trading Rudy Gay: WCFS
2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: 34-48

2012-2013 Raptors with Gay: missed playoffs
2013-2014 Raptors trade Gay: 48 wins, HCA in playoffs

2012-2013 Kings without Gay: 28 wins
2014 Kings: 28 wins

2017 Spurs: 61 wins
2018 Spurs: ???

We will be ok says our 19+ years of stellar play! Just needs to be a serviceable cog.

[SuperCam]

PATFO doing work it's about time, anything that gets fathead off the floor:flag:

[I. Hustle]

Yeah Noche Latino nights... just admit that it's your default jersey.

You're so silly!!!

[phxspurfan]

I'd like to know what happed between Gay and GS.

Did the Warriors back off from risk? Or were the Spurs able to offer more?



If I were the Dubs I'd rather have Swaggy P. He's quicker and can run more

[HarlemHeat37]

That was also an era when he was the main guy and expected to put up 20 ppg

I don't actually believe in curses, my guy:lol I just think it's pretty funny that every team(minus the Kings) has noticeably improved during the 1st post-Gay season and all the teams he joins subsequently fall apart.. that nigga has some serious bad luck..

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFWEb-q0A0

[steeledl]

Sucks for Kyle, tbh..

Really didn't think about that but this is good news.

[ace3g]

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[Mr. Body]

I'm actually dubious about this. He's a guy who kind of torpedoes teams. He doesn't add anything overall and has put up empty stat. But it's not a bad move given the state of the team and league right now.

[rastaspur]

I'd like to know what happed between Gay and GS.

Did the Warriors back off from risk? Or were the Spurs able to offer more?

They chose swaggy p instead.

[NASpurs]

He can't take the Golden God's #22 jersey number.

[NameLess Scrub]

Rudy will be Kawhi's backup. He's a SF and Pop doesn't start small line ups.

If he can avoid being a compulsive low 40's chucker, that's a great backup for Kawhi and might be good in situational small line ups.

Still hardly enough to beat the super Ws.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Fabulous!!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWF_9dmdKrg

[dabom]

Depends how you look at it..there's a double-standard on this forum where people gushed over Simmons for his decent series vs. GS, yet ignore that Anderson played well against them in the same series(personally, I think it was clearly a meaningless series once Kawhi went down, but still, obvious double standard)..


He also showed flashes in the RS vs GSW. He is a commodity vs the Warriors whether you like it or not.

[Nathan89]

Spurs were fortunate to win 61 games last year. We can be a better team and still win less. It's called variance.

[skut_farkus]

Rudy faggot :lmao

[JohnnyMax]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/gay-seal-gif.gif

[cd98]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrKrocLRN0

Well at least we know one of our free agent signings won't go to camp overweight and out of shape.

[spurs10]

I'm wondering what our lineups with him on the floor will look like?

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh9p794ZKSc

[ernest787]

Depends how you look at it..there's a double-standard on this forum where people gushed over Simmons for his decent series vs. GS, yet ignore that Anderson played well against them in the same series(personally, I think it was clearly a meaningless series once Kawhi went down, but still, obvious double standard)..

Game 1
Kyle - 4 points / 4 rebounds / 2 assist / 1 steal

Game 2
Kyle - 8 points / 5 rounds / 4 assist / 2 steals / 30% FG

Game 3
Kyle - 6 points / 9 rebounds / 5 assist / 1 block

Game 4
Kyle - 20 points / 7 rebounds / 2 assist / 4 steals



The Kyle played great or whatever against the GSW has been sooooo blown out of the water. He played like a serviceable NBA player... I get it though... that's a huge jump from the bum he has been over his career, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

[NASpurs]

Rudy faggot :lmao

Seems like we found Rudy Gay's new nickname for when he starts sucking. I would had gone with Rudy Fag tbh.

[gospursgojas]

Great signing and at a bargain. Upgrade over sims.

[Ron Swanson]

http://i.imgur.com/ykoAOeX.gif

[dabom]

Game 1
Kyle - 4 points / 4 rebounds / 2 assist / 1 steal

Game 2
Kyle - 8 points / 5 rounds / 4 assist / 2 steals / 30% FG

Game 3
Kyle - 6 points / 9 rebounds / 5 assist / 1 block

Game 4
Kyle - 20 points / 7 rebounds / 2 assist / 4 steals



The Kyle played great or whatever against the GSW has been sooooo blown out of the water. He played like a serviceable NBA player... I get it though... that's a huge jump from the bum he has been over his career, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

:lol :tu

[therealtruth]

Hopefully it's not RJ 2.0. High flying small forward becomes one dimensional 3pt shooter. The fear is also Pop likes to overplay his vets at the risk of not developing the guys who need it ala 2011 lost to Grizz.

[FkLA]

Fuck yes, sons.

I'm calling it right now, unless all his lift is gone this dude will flourish in SA. The Spurs culture is real. You don't just come into this professional of an environment willingly if you're planning on being a cancer/selfish. The tools and length are there. The Spurs will get whatever is left after the injury out.

Ideally, he wouldn't be coming off an achilles injury but then again he probably commands a lot more dough if he isn't.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO9ULqs0d2M

[NameLess Scrub]

Well at least we know one of our free agent signings won't go to camp overweight and out of shape.

You don't know.. LMa didn't use to be a fatty until he joined SA.



I'm wondering what our lineups with him on the floor will look like?

Like clueless first timers in a shooting range?

[SPURt]

If he is in fact healthy this is a great signing. Someone who can create with his size was ideal. I wonder what his D will look like as well as his defense.

[TimDunkem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO9ULqs0d2MWhy the fuck are you posting this here..

[gambit1990]

never been a rudy gay fan, glad to have him though. it's a good deal.

i'd rather the spurs have him than okc.

[BatManu20]

Not gonna lie, I've never been a big fan of Gay's game, but at this price, even after his injury, this is a steal. Gay has legitimate talent and coming off the bench for us will probably pretty damn solid. At that price, it's a no-brainer.

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO9ULqs0d2M

permaban tbh

[cd98]

Game 1
Kyle - 4 points / 4 rebounds / 2 assist / 1 steal

Game 2
Kyle - 8 points / 5 rounds / 4 assist / 2 steals / 30% FG

Game 3
Kyle - 6 points / 9 rebounds / 5 assist / 1 block

Game 4
Kyle - 20 points / 7 rebounds / 2 assist / 4 steals



The Kyle played great or whatever against the GSW has been sooooo blown out of the water. He played like a serviceable NBA player... I get it though... that's a huge jump from the bum he has been over his career, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

I think there are only 2 ways to beat the Warriors. One is with a big that can punish there small ball line up, like a prime Tim. The other is a team full of 6'5 to 6'9 guys that can dribble, shoot, and guard on switches.

[Chris]

I'm wondering what our lineups with him on the floor will look like?

Parker
Leonard
Gay
Anybody but Aldridge
Gasol

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtQDynDcjls

[313]

:lol patfo

A 30 year old coming off an achilles injury is the best they could do? :lmao

Can someone name a player that came back from an achilles injury and was still decent and maybe I'll feel better about this.

[TimDunkem]

permaban tbh
Seconded...

[cd98]

Fuck yes, sons.

I'm calling it right now, unless all his lift is gone this dude will flourish in SA. The Spurs culture is real. You don't just come into this professional of an environment willingly if you're planning on being a cancer/selfish. The tools and length are there. The Spurs will get whatever is left after the injury out.

Ideally, he wouldn't be coming off an achilles injury but then again he probably commands a lot more dough if he isn't.

Ahem, LMA.

[vy65]

Crofl, the delusions of Spurs fans never ceases to amaze ...

[Chinook]

Game 1
Kyle - 4 points / 4 rebounds / 2 assist / 1 steal

Game 2
Kyle - 8 points / 5 rounds / 4 assist / 2 steals / 30% FG

Game 3
Kyle - 6 points / 9 rebounds / 5 assist / 1 block

Game 4
Kyle - 20 points / 7 rebounds / 2 assist / 4 steals



The Kyle played great or whatever against the GSW has been sooooo blown out of the water. He played like a serviceable NBA player... I get it though... that's a huge jump from the bum he has been over his career, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

Simmons against GS:



First
Last
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


2017-05-14
2017-05-22
4
3
27.5
6.0
14.5
.414
1.3
3.3
.385
2.0
2.8
.727
1.0
1.8
2.8
3.3
0.5
0.3
0.8
3.5
15.3
9.2



Kyle against GS:



First
▼
Last
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


2017-05-14
2017-05-22
4
1
20.5
4.3
8.5
.500
0.3
1.0
.250
0.8
1.0
.750
2.0
4.3
6.3
3.3
1.8
0.3
0.3
1.0
9.5
11.4

[gospursgojas]

DJ/Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA defensive line up tho

[steeledl]

His most recent stats look "ok"... but his career, year-by-year advanced metric stats look somewhat mediocre... (WS/48, PER, DBPM, ORTG, DRTG, etc...)


He is not the player he used to be and Im sure the injury will set him back further. Lots of decent players have put up good numbers on bad teams. He is already a huge upgrade over Manu, though. At least we can say we improved in that area.

[GSH]

Not gonna lie, I've never been a big fan of Gay's game, but at this price, even after his injury, this is a steal. Gay has legitimate talent and coming off the bench for us will probably pretty damn solid. At that price, it's a no-brainer.


If Pop talked to him about a pairing, that doesn't sound like the bench. He didn't turn Gay's head with talk about playing with our bench players.

[dabom]

Are we actually comparing Simmons too fathead? :lmao

[cd98]

:lol patfo

A 30 year old coming off an achilles injury is the best they could do? :lmao

Can someone name a player that came back from an achilles injury and was still decent and maybe I'll feel better about this.

No, but all of those guys were pushing 36. Hard to know if it was more the injury or age. But at 30, hopefully he can do well.

well Mathews may counter my theory.

[Spurs9]

We signed someone, I'm so happy :lol

[rastaspur]

If he is in fact healthy this is a great signing. Someone who can create with his size was ideal. I wonder what his D will look like as well as his defense.

You want to see his dick and his defense? That last sentence has me a little confused.

:lol

[313]

If Pop talked to him about a pairing, that doesn't sound like the bench. He didn't turn Gay's head with talk about playing with our bench players.
Who would he replace in the starting lu :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Game 1
Kyle - 4 points / 4 rebounds / 2 assist / 1 steal

Game 2
Kyle - 8 points / 5 rounds / 4 assist / 2 steals / 30% FG

Game 3
Kyle - 6 points / 9 rebounds / 5 assist / 1 block

Game 4
Kyle - 20 points / 7 rebounds / 2 assist / 4 steals



The Kyle played great or whatever against the GSW has been sooooo blown out of the water. He played like a serviceable NBA player... I get it though... that's a huge jump from the bum he has been over his career, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

Didn't say he played great, but he played well compared to his teammates, which is the criteria people are using to prop up Simmons(3rd highest TS% in the rotation during that series, along with 2nd in all advanced on/off numbers and VORP, etc)

Again, I think it was a completely meaningless series once Kawhi went down(I even defended Aldridge, which is rare coming from me), but I'm just using the same criteria that people are using for Simmons' tiny sample size in a skewed setting..most posters here like one of them and dislike the other, which isn't even debatable..

[rastaspur]

If he is in fact healthy this is a great signing. Someone who can create with his size was ideal. I wonder what his D will look like as well as his defense.

You want to see his dick and his defense? That last sentence has me a little confused.

:lol

[ulosturedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odK0HZMBg3I


Well the guy seems to have a great work ethic. This was before he blew his achilles. Maybe he can teach LMA something about being in shape...

[gospursgojas]

Gay>Sims and Manu so team is already improved.

[keithington1]

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-19/s150x150/19761884_1937257659849672_4280156663920459776_a.jp g (https://www.instagram.com/rudygay8/)rudygay8

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#spurs (https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/spurs/) #backtothedoubleduce (https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/backtothedoubleduce/)



https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/19765024_1599513876748462_1934342253803732992_n.jp g

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/19765024_1599513876748462_1934342253803732992_n.jp g
Hope that's not the new Nike jerseys

[MaNu4Tres]

Great low risk, high reward move.

Hopefully Spurs go to the 1 - C - 3 wing - 1 PG philosophy.

LA - Gay - Kawhi - DG - DJ

Pau - Bertans or Kyle - Simmons - Manu or Hanga - Patty

Lee (prob back), Kyle,TP, Forbes, White, Splitter or Black

If Spurs keep Simmons...Kyle or Bertans wont get any minutes when Gay is 100%.

[vy65]

The average age for injured players was 29.7, with seven years of playing experience (Kobe's in his 17th year); in the first year back from injury, players played 5.21 fewer minutes per game. That number dropped to 4.42 in the second year back. More tellingly, player efficiency rating (PER) dropped by 4.64 the first year back and 4.28 the second. To understand how severe that drop is, consider: This year, a difference of 4.64 PER is the difference between Kobe Bryant and Ersan Ilyasova.

On a per 40-minute basis, "athletic" stats like blocks, rebounds, and steals actually held steady post-injury. The same is true for field goal and free throw shooting percentages. Given players' dropoffs in overall efficiency, that was surprising, so I dug a little deeper and looked at rebound rates, free throw attempts, and other areas that might affect a player's PER. There is a general decline in FTA in post-injury years (which would pose a problem for Kobe, given how many shots he takes), with rebound rates actually holding more or less steady. The dropoffs showed up in any number of categories. Some players shot abysmally once they came back; for others, usage rates plummeted, suggesting they were no longer capable of creating their own offense. But taken as a whole, there was an obvious and expected drop in efficiency for nearly everyone.

Ouch.

[TimDunkem]

I wonder what his D will look like as well as his defense.
Wat

:lmao

[dabom]

Didn't say he played great, but he played well compared to his teammates, which is the criteria people are using to prop up Simmons(3rd highest TS% in the rotation during that series, along with 2nd in all advanced on/off numbers and VORP, etc)

Again, I think it was a meaningless series once Kawhi went down, but I'm just using the same criteria that people are using for Simmons' tiny sample size in a skewed setting..

You keep saying this. He also played good vs GSW in the RS. Or are you just forgetting this. :lmao

[DesignatedT]

Surely the Spurs aren't rolling it back with Aldridge/Gasol starting. That pairing is a nightmare in todays NBA.

[FkLA]

Y'all motherfuckers forget PopaGOAT has helped guys with physical limitations like Roger Mason Jr and Gary Neal light shit up for a season or two. Imagine what he will do with a super long, skilled guy like Joto. :wow:claw

[GSH]

Who would he replace in the starting lu :lol

That's sort of the point. Something about that doesn't make sense.

[313]

No, but all of those guys were pushing 36. Hard to know if it was more the injury or age. But at 30, hopefully he can do well.

well Mathews may counter my theory.
Brandon Jennings was dropping 20/20 games before he tore his, and look at him now. Is he even in the league anymore?

Here's an article I remember reading from a couple years back that paints a pretty grim picture. http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/history-not-kind-for-ruptured-achilles-recovery/

[ernest787]

Simmons against GS:



First
Last
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


2017-05-14
2017-05-22
4
3
27.5
6.0
14.5
.414
1.3
3.3
.385
2.0
2.8
.727
1.0
1.8
2.8
3.3
0.5
0.3
0.8
3.5
15.3
9.2



Kyle against GS:



First
▼
Last
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


2017-05-14
2017-05-22
4
1
20.5
4.3
8.5
.500
0.3
1.0
.250
0.8
1.0
.750
2.0
4.3
6.3
3.3
1.8
0.3
0.3
1.0
9.5
11.4





Yeah. I don't think Simmons should be paid anything stupid either and am not a person that thinks he should be starting over Danny Green.

The more impressive part of Simmons is the overall playoff run though. Kyle wasn't cracking the rotation until TP and Kawhi went down.

[dabom]

Y'all motherfuckers forget PopaGOAT has helped guys with physical limitations like Roger Mason Jr and Gary Neal light shit up for a season or two. Imagine what he will do with a super long, skilled guy like Joto. :wow:claw

:lol

[JR3]

Now everyone is excited listing the lineup with LMA??? LMA won't even be here...

[FkLA]

You want to see his dick and his defense? That last sentence has me a little confused.

:lol

:lmao

[NASpurs]

You want to see his dick and his defense? That last sentence has me a little confused.

:lol

Seems like Spurt is a little confused himself. :lol

[Chinook]

Didn't say he played great, but he played well compared to his teammates, which is the criteria people are using to prop up Simmons(3rd highest TS% in the rotation during that series, along with 2nd in all advanced on/off numbers and VORP, etc)

Again, I think it was a completely meaningless series once Kawhi went down(I even defended Aldridge, which is rare coming from me), but I'm just using the same criteria that people are using for Simmons' tiny sample size in a skewed setting..most posters here like one of them and dislike the other, which isn't even debatable..



Per-36 vs GS
Points
Assists
Rebounds
Steals
Blocks


Anderson
17
6
11
3
1


Simmons
20
4
4
1
0



Far superior advanced stats for the playoffs too.

[ernest787]

Didn't say he played great, but he played well compared to his teammates, which is the criteria people are using to prop up Simmons(3rd highest TS% in the rotation during that series, along with 2nd in all advanced on/off numbers and VORP, etc)

Again, I think it was a completely meaningless series once Kawhi went down(I even defended Aldridge, which is rare coming from me), but I'm just using the same criteria that people are using for Simmons' tiny sample size in a skewed setting..most posters here like one of them and dislike the other, which isn't even debatable..

I can agree with that then. The only factor that I think Simmons has in his favor is going back to the Houston series, but I'm not in the boat of overpaying Simmons or wanting him to start for this team.

[dabom]

You want to see his dick and his defense? That last sentence has me a little confused.

:lol

He's a top 3 gay poster.

Number 1 is spurfaggot followed by thegreatfaggot.

[spursistan]

Not ideal, but for the price and contract length, I'm cool with it-- a low risk, high reward type of move..

Spurs needed more off-dribble bucket-getters to take the pressure off Kawhi..Gay is a vastly superior offensive player than Simmons, and would probably stay as such post-Achilles, but his defense is the real question mark..

[Ron Swanson]

I wonder what his D will look like as well as his defense.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-28-2015/pHo5TS.gif

[Chinook]

Yeah. I don't think Simmons should be paid anything stupid either and am not a person that thinks he should be starting over Danny Green.

The more impressive part of Simmons is the overall playoff run though. Kyle wasn't cracking the rotation until TP and Kawhi went down.

Anderson played against Memphis with both Kawhi and CP on the team. The chart just points out that Kyle outplayed Simmons in that series. It only looks good for Simmons if you ignore the minutes disparity.

[LittleCriminal]

Gasol
Aldridge
Gay
Klaw
Murray

I can see this as the starting 5.

[dabom]

The Spurs really want simmons back. They wouldn't give a shit about fathead if the roles were switched. :lmao

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVqC2W5a9y0

[313]

That's sort of the point. Something about that doesn't make sense.
I think the wording was just weird. When I read pairing I assumed he meant how Rudy will fit overall with the team/culture/org. Not specific pairings on the court (if that's what you were thinking)

[Chinook]

Gasol
Aldridge
Gay
Klaw
Murray

I can see this as the starting 5.

Would be so horrible. Gasol and Murray spacing for Iso City. Gay off an injury guarding the Hardens of the world so Kawhi can get a rest.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

so several things:

- message to Simmons
- it adds another very good and skilled player (post injury) to a roster that has already won back to back 60 win seasons
- the Spurs may call it a day now in this FA but it doesn't break the bank. The spurs can go crazy next year and even attempt to get someone like LBJ, etc while the other stacked teams would most likely be in trouble cap-wise. Most other teams are loading up and using cash now in order to compete now with the Warriors.

Just random thoughts

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=addSPm4GJFk

[cd98]

Brandon Jennings was dropping 20/20 games before he tore his, and look at him now. Is he even in the league anymore?

Here's an article I remember reading from a couple years back that paints a pretty grim picture. http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/history-not-kind-for-ruptured-achilles-recovery/

Gut punch.

[sasaint]

Yeah. I don't think Simmons should be paid anything stupid either and am not a person that thinks he should be starting over Danny Green.

The more impressive part of Simmons is the overall playoff run though. Kyle wasn't cracking the rotation until TP and Kawhi went down.

The hope is that somebody offers JSimms a deal at +/- $8MM that makes him a reasonable gamble for the Spurs.

[cutewizard]

We need one or two more quality players to compete with golden state

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Warriors were trying to get him before settling for Nick Young. Am assuming Spurs physicians checked him out prior to the offer being extended.

Good move all things considered.

[ernest787]

Anderson played against Memphis with both Kawhi and CP on the team. The chart just points out that Kyle outplayed Simmons in that series. It only looks good for Simmons if you ignore the minutes disparity.

Anderson played 17, 7, 18, 6 and 2 minutes in the 6 games against Memphis, including a DNP.

Against Houston he was at 12 , 4, 2, 15, 6, and 20.

This narrative has been built on Spurstalk that he really showed up in the playoffs and outplayed everyone on the team except Kawhi. This is a completely false narrative. He was bench fodder for most of the playoff run and didn't really touch the rotation until Kawhi and TP went down and we were just playing out games.
I think Kyle can be a borderline rotation player in the league. If he's your 8-10 guy on the bench I think he's fine, but people are talking about him playing starting PF or being the 6 man on the team. He has done nothing to even hint that he can fill that type of role.

[Hoops Czar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVqC2W5a9y0
For old time sake, why don't you show Tony Parker from last year vs Memphis and Houstion.

[MannyIsGod]

LMA/Gay/Leonard/Green/Murray is the starting lineup I expect to see. I think we may be stuck with Pau multiple years now. If they resign Simmons then they probably have to give Pau a multiple year deal to avoid the tax.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

He's already healthy..the concern is that he's coming off an injury that kills careers..

Sandy in pretty much any sport, an achilles heel injury is pretty bad and the player is never the same anymore. If I'm not mistaken Kobe had this too. It basically kills their ability to jump as well as before. Let's see I have faith in this signing- it looks like he's been taking care of himself and training, etc. And he's still very young.

[HarlemHeat37]

There's no way Gay is going to effectively play SF, tbh..I'm sure they'll try it, but it'll fail..even prior to the devastating injury, nearly 40% of his minutes were at PF in today's NBA..with the injury undoubtedly taking away some of his physical gifts, he's definitely going to fit better at the 4..

[td4mvp2k]

LMA/Gay/Leonard/Green/Murray is the starting lineup I expect to see. I think we may be stuck with Pau multiple years now. If they resign Simmons then they probably have to give Pau a multiple year deal to avoid the tax.that lineup and spurs bench watch out nba tbh

[Chinook]

Anderson played 17, 7, 18, 6 and 2 minutes in the 6 games against Memphis, including a DNP.

Against Houston he was at 12 , 4, 2, 15, 6, and 20.

This narrative has been built on Spurstalk that he really showed up in the playoffs and outplayed everyone on the team except Kawhi. This is a completely false narrative. He was bench fodder for most of the playoff run and didn't really touch the rotation until Kawhi and TP went down and we were just playing out games.
I think Kyle can be a borderline rotation player in the league. If he's your 8-10 guy on the bench I think he's fine, but people are talking about him playing starting PF or being the 6 man on the team. He has done nothing to even hint that he can fill that type of role.

That's all well and good. You can think that. But you said that Anderson only got into the rotation once Kawhi and Parker got hurt. That wasn't true. He was ahead of Simmons in the rotation to start the post-season. Who knows what would have happened had Kawhi and Parker been healthy? I don't. But against a team that loves playing small, I don't think he would have been stuck to the bench.