Lol Longo Bell

[Raven]

yeah we all want to see gonzo as a spot up shooter... :lmao

[LkrFan]

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He's SLOWLY getting there. I even saw better form on his pull up midrange jumper:

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I think this thread is inspiring him. Thanks mid :cry

[LkrFan]

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Moral victory hype time. I can count on one hand all year that we got blown out. Clipps on opening night, Rockets, Boston, and maybe the 2nd Wizards game (I was in attendance for that one and it pissed me off). All the other losses, I agree with Lonzo. We were right there. Last night if we make closer to 75% of our freebies (vs closer to 50%), we win.

Now the standings show we are 8 games below 0.500, but if you watch the games, we are a better team than what our record shows. My boys are too green and make mental mistakes that lead to losses.

That being said, these losses are FrUstratiNg. Fun to see us compete with the big boys but frustrating when we lose winnable games. I'm enjoying the ride like it's 1992-1995. Post Magic, pre Shaq and Kobe era. I'm hoping the formula works again in that we have a few lean years, collect talented young players, then strike in free agency when the timing is right. Well, we'll most likely have enough cap space for 2 max players. The way these Baby Lakers are competing, I'm sure free agents will want to play with Lonzo, BI, and Kuz. We'll see...

[LkrFan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Los-Angeles-Lakers/13/Playoff-HistoryLos Angeles Lakers Playoff History



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Believe.

:lol - playing Farmland Checkers again huh? Be smarter than that son. :toast

[Killakobe81]

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Moral victory hype time. I can count on one hand all year that we got blown out. Clipps on opening night, Rockets, Boston, and maybe the 2nd Wizards game (I was in attendance for that one and it pissed me off). All the other losses, I agree with Lonzo. We were right there. Last night if we make closer to 75% of our freebies (vs closer to 50%), we win.

Now the standings show we are 8 games below 0.500, but if you watch the games, we are a better team than what our record shows. My boys are too green and make mental mistakes that lead to losses.

That being said, these losses are FrUstratiNg. Fun to see us compete with the big boys but frustrating when we lose winnable games. I'm enjoying the ride like it's 1992-1995. Post Magic, pre Shaq and Kobe era. I'm hoping the formula works again in that we have a few lean years, collect talented young players, then strike in free agency when the timing is right. Well, we'll most likely have enough cap space for 2 max players. The way these Baby Lakers are competing, I'm sure free agents will want to play with Lonzo, BI, and Kuz. We'll see...

KCP has the worst bball IQ in recent lakers history he makes some tough shots on occasion and hustles on defense but at least when Kobe yook bad shots especially in his prime they at least looked good and also did go in sometimes (especially in his prime) ...more than this dude who i wanna strangle. i get Lonzo needs to learn but when kcp is chucking and bricking sit him for Clarkson play them both ....
Also Lakers have no stars if Ingram was one already ... he gets 8 more Fts last night but its a star league when we had them ...we got BOD on calls.

this has to be worst FT shooting laker team in histoy we shoot even 70% of our FTs in our home arena we win in regulation easily.

[Killakobe81]

oh and Brook has turned in to shaq at the FT line ...
ever since those airballs ...so useless.

[LkrFan]

KCP has the worst bball IQ in recent lakers history he makes some tough shots on occasion and hustles on defense but at least when Kobe yook bad shots especially in his prime they at least looked good and also did go in sometimes (rspecially in his prime) ...more than this dude who i wanna strangle. i get Lonzo needs to learn but when kcp is chucking and bricking sit him for Clarkson play them both ....
Also Lakers have no stars if Ingram was one already ... he gets 8 more Fts last night but its a star league when we had them ...we got BOD on calls.

this has to be worst FT shooting laker team in histoy we shoot even 70% of our FTs in our home arena we win in regulation easily.

Word - KCP makes me want to vomit. I blame Luke for giving him the reigns to shoot at will. Frustrating game to watch because the Dubs were tryna give us the game.

I like the culture we are building. I kind of know what to expect night in night out even though we are too young (seemingly) to take the next step as currently constructed. Our "vets" (Lopez and KCP) are letting us down. I like what Brewer brings though. I hope he sticks around.

Back to Lonzo. Those 7 points in OT are more of what we need from him. He was aggressive and confident. I'm seeing baby steps with him that I like. If we had a closer, we win last night's game going away.

I think what Luke is building has staying power in today's NBA. Just add...free agents - hopefully this summer.

[LkrFan]

oh and Brook has turned in to shaq at the FT line ...
ever since those airballs ...so useless.

Brook is killing me. On the one hand, being able to stretch the floor as a 5 is great for spacing. But if he's not making them he's useless. And now he can't even shoot freebies. Good grief.

[ambchang]

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Moral victory hype time. I can count on one hand all year that we got blown out. Clipps on opening night, Rockets, Boston, and maybe the 2nd Wizards game (I was in attendance for that one and it pissed me off). All the other losses, I agree with Lonzo. We were right there. Last night if we make closer to 75% of our freebies (vs closer to 50%), we win.

Now the standings show we are 8 games below 0.500, but if you watch the games, we are a better team than what our record shows. My boys are too green and make mental mistakes that lead to losses.

That being said, these losses are FrUstratiNg. Fun to see us compete with the big boys but frustrating when we lose winnable games. I'm enjoying the ride like it's 1992-1995. Post Magic, pre Shaq and Kobe era. I'm hoping the formula works again in that we have a few lean years, collect talented young players, then strike in free agency when the timing is right. Well, we'll most likely have enough cap space for 2 max players. The way these Baby Lakers are competing, I'm sure free agents will want to play with Lonzo, BI, and Kuz. We'll see...

The Lakers record are actually right where they should be:

http://www.espn.com/nba/standings. None of the teams in the WC has a better standing and worse DIFF when compared to the Lakers.

[LkrFan]

The Lakers record are actually right where they should be:

http://www.espn.com/nba/standings. None of the teams in the WC has a better standing and worse DIFF when compared to the Lakers.

That is partially on youth but also on Luke. Our best lineup should always have Randle in it. But he starts Nance Jr. SMH

Rumor: there is a provision in Randle's contract that says if he starts >9 games, there is a kicker that makes the Lakers have to pay him more. This makes sense financially for them not to start him - and preserve the 2018 cap space dream, but horrible basketball wise. No way Nance should be starting.

[ambchang]

That is partially on youth but also on Luke. Our best lineup should always have Randle in it. But he starts Nance Jr. SMH

Rumor: there is a provision in Randle's contract that says if he starts >9 games, there is a kicker that makes the Lakers have to pay him more. This makes sense financially for them not to start him - and preserve the 2018 cap space dream, but horrible basketball wise. No way Nance should be starting.

It's just beyond me why there would be any clause that would be this stupid:
a) whether a player starts or not is not in the control of the player. The coach makes that decision. Other factors like injuries (to other players), and matchups come into play
b) A player like Ginobili, Harden, McHale, Pierce, and many others played important roles off the bench despite being better than their starter counterparts. They came off the bench to make the team better
c) The player may think he deserves to start due to the kicker, but the coach may not, leading to dissension in the locker room

So this is essentially an incentive for nothing of significance and can lead to team in-fighting.

[Raven]

i don't think the lakers realise they have a worse record than the nets and 3 more wins than the last placed hawks...

[8FOR!3]

That is partially on youth but also on Luke. Our best lineup should always have Randle in it. But he starts Nance Jr. SMH

Rumor: there is a provision in Randle's contract that says if he starts >9 games, there is a kicker that makes the Lakers have to pay him more. This makes sense financially for them not to start him - and preserve the 2018 cap space dream, but horrible basketball wise. No way Nance should be starting.

Why not start Kuzma?

[LkrFan]

It's just beyond me why there would be any clause that would be this stupid:
a) whether a player starts or not is not in the control of the player. The coach makes that decision. Other factors like injuries (to other players), and matchups come into play
b) A player like Ginobili, Harden, McHale, Pierce, and many others played important roles off the bench despite being better than their starter counterparts. They came off the bench to make the team better
c) The player may think he deserves to start due to the kicker, but the coach may not, leading to dissension in the locker room

So this is essentially an incentive for nothing of significance and can lead to team in-fighting.

Great points. Agreed :tu

[LkrFan]

Why not start Kuzma?

Good question. Laker Nation all wanna know. My theory? Nance is a slightly better defender but cannot get his own shot with the 2nd unit. Kuz gives us better balance offensively with his ability to space the floor and his ability to pass (he's an OK passer). Having two bad individual offensive players (Zo and Nance) stalls our offense. It gets worse when Lopez is not making 3s and airballs his freebies. Kuz solves those problems. He's an adequate rebounder, really good shooter, solid finisher, and decent team defender (who needs more PT to reduce rookie mistakes).

We would be further along as a team had Luke continued to start Kuz. With Lopez out 3 weeks, maybe Luke shakes up the lineup. We'll see.

[Splits]

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FG%: .339

3P%: .275

FT%: .487

[LkrFan]

FG%: .339

3P%: .275

FT%: .487

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[LkrFan]

whotts dett?

My bad, I got the name wrong:

https://ii.herrschners.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/herrschners/source/products/478310.tif&wid=480=&cvt=jpeg

:lol

[LkrFan]

FG%: .339

3P%: .275

FT%: .487

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[Splits]

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FG%: .508

3P%: .515

FT%: .836


oh wait... that rookie plays for Boston

17>11

[LkrFan]

FG%: .508

3P%: .515

FT%: .836

oh wait... that rookie plays for Boston

17>11

That rookie is on a better team. Comparing bigs to guards now are we? :lol Kwame shot better and was a better rebounder than Zeke. Is he better? :lol at your percentages schtick. Let you tell it, Kobe doesn't belong in the HOF. Stats lie, just like Laker hating farmers like you :lol

We'll see who ends up with a better career between Zo and Tatum. Meanwhile:

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[Splits]

Comparing bigs to guards now are we?

A big? And he's leading the league in 3P% at 3 attempts per game.

Ainge playing chess while Aids playing buttsex

[8FOR!3]

Good question. Laker Nation all wanna know. My theory? Nance is a slightly better defender but cannot get his own shot with the 2nd unit. Kuz gives us better balance offensively with his ability to space the floor and his ability to pass (he's an OK passer). Having two bad individual offensive players (Zo and Nance) stalls our offense. It gets worse when Lopez is not making 3s and airballs his freebies. Kuz solves those problems. He's an adequate rebounder, really good shooter, solid finisher, and decent team defender (who needs more PT to reduce rookie mistakes).

We would be further along as a team had Luke continued to start Kuz. With Lopez out 3 weeks, maybe Luke shakes up the lineup. We'll see.

Saw him play in the PAC12 tournament last year in Vegas and was hoping he'd be the Spurs pick. Kuzma's great at the 4 for todays NBA.

[LkrFan]

A big? And he's leading the league in 3P% at 3 attempts per game.

Ainge playing chess while Aids playing buttsex

Tatum is nice. I'd rather have Zo AND Kuz, collectively.

Your only hope (of Tatum > Zo) would be that the Lakers don't reload. Given the style of play the Lakers employ (aka the Dubs offense) I don't see why free agents won't want to play with such an unselfish gifted passer and rebounder like Zo. The only issue is him learning what he can and can't do at this level. He's working on his game:

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Free agents will want to play with Lonzo. Neal with it son.

[LkrFan]

Saw him play in the PAC12 tournament last year in Vegas and was hoping he'd be the Spurs pick. Kuzma's great at the 4 for todays NBA.

Kuz is legit. Nice measurables for today's NBA. I've saw good things defensively vs The Greek Freak, KD and LeHype. No, he's not on their level but I've seen flashes. He's an up and coming young player who I love to see play.

[Splits]

The only issue is him learning what he can and can't do at this level. He's working on his game

Yeah, he was forced to stay 3 hours after practice today

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[LkrFan]

Yeah, he was forced to stay 3 hours after practice today

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:lol at him being forced.

Anywho:

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[Raven]

Tatum is nice. I'd rather have Zo AND Kuz, collectively.

Your only hope (of Tatum > Zo) would be that the Lakers don't reload. Given the style of play the Lakers employ (aka the Dubs offense) I don't see why free agents won't want to play with such an unselfish gifted passer and rebounder like Zo. The only issue is him learning what he can and can't do at this level. He's working on his game:

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Free agents will want to play with Lonzo. Neal with it son.

Don't know what to tell you, then...

[RsxPiimp]

:lol at him being forced.

Anywho:

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ok, me along with some other peeps in this thread may eat some crow by the end of the year :lol

props to hater and StrengthAndHonor for some who believed in this kid since day 1.

[Splits]

:lol at him being forced.


I'm sure it took at least 3 hours to make 100 freebies.

[LkrFan]

Don't know what to tell you, then...

Then STFU :lol

[LkrFan]

I'm sure it took at least 3 hours to make 100 freebies.

:lmao :tu

[LkrFan]

ok, me along with some other peeps in this thread may eat some crow by the end of the year :lol

props to hater and StrengthAndHonor for some who believed in this kid since day 1.

Hope so. I said before the draft I didn't want him (Lavar effect). Now that I see him play, the only thing he needs to do is fix his shot. Multiple reports point to him being an extremely hard worker pre-draft. This gives me confidence that he will fix it.

Year by year he will add different aspects to his game. I would work on his footwork and midrange game for starters. With his size he should be punishing midget PGs in the paint and finishing plays better than last night. -20 points for him letting a TOSB block his game winning layup :lol

[LkrFan]

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[RsxPiimp]

Hope so. I said before the draft I didn't want him (Lavar effect). Now that I see him play, the only thing he needs to do is fix his shot. Multiple reports point to him being an extremely hard worker pre-draft. This gives me confidence that he will fix it.

Year by year he will add different aspects to his game. I would work on his footwork and midrange game for starters. With his size he should be punishing midget PGs in the paint and finishing plays better than last night. -20 points for him letting a TOSB block his game winning layup :lol

likewise bro. never been a fan of ball. I feel like if he cant shoot at an elite level then he wont be as effective. the first 45 days of the season proved that but it looks like he's adjusting to nba speed and I like the aggressiveness now, similar to ucla zo.


that layup last night was weak AF, you could win with moves like that in AAU but not in the big league:lmao but its a learning process like u said

[Raven]

Then STFU :lol

does shutting up express my sense of pity?

[Chucho]

One thing that really has improved is his face-washing. Dude's acne is clearing up noticeably. He can't fix that mongoloid face, but he can cut back on those dope-head poc-marks with some good ol soap and water.

[benefactor]

5-14 tonight
:cry but he's getting better :cry

[Chucho]

5-14 tonight
:cry but he's getting better :cry

"He was top 50% of rookies in lotsa stats for 10 games. That's 30% of the season he hasn't been a bust. You watch."

[LkrFan]

One thing that really has improved is his face-washing. Dude's acne is clearing up noticeably. He can't fix that mongoloid face, but he can cut back on those dope-head poc-marks with some good ol soap and water.

SMH

[LkrFan]

Like I said before, my Baby Lakers are FrUstratiNg. They were in it to win it in several games this year. But their inability to finish teams off caused several Ls that should have been Ws. It was good for them to go up by 22 points on the road vs Rockets before they got "Bin Hardened" and blew that lead. They held on for a quality W, while starting 3 rookies:

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Here's hoping they continue to build on the experience of Ws/Ls going forward. Just imagine if two max players are added as our first 2 options this summer (which makes Kuz and BI 3rd and 4th options). I can. :toast

[LkrFan]

Lonzo's block on Bin Harden had me thinking about the Kidd comparisons. Lo and behold:

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And despite his shoddy scoring, we're #1 in pace. If we add two max players, Lonzo will be a 5th option offensively, at best. I could live with that considering he's an elite shot blocker (amongst PGs), good rebounder and above average passer - even as a rookie. He'll get better too.

[Killakobe81]

we have 3 core young pieces ...with great upside and some good role players ...

[LkrFan]

Baby steps...

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[Killakobe81]

Baby steps...

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lack of a legit #1 frontline superstar gonna be a crippling deficiency for this young team ...but still fun watching the baby Lakers learn and develop..
Trusting in the Magic/Pelinka 5 year plan ...

[Killakobe81]

KCP and Lopez cannot be here next year though...

[LkrFan]

KCP and Lopez cannot be here next year though...

KCP def won't. I'm lukewarm on Lopez, even if we strike out on Boogie. But if we get PG13, Brook may work as a complimentary player on a cheap deal. As a primary weapon he sucks.

[ambchang]

Here's to the true purple and piss Laker fans, sticking with your team after it cratered into oblivion due to Kobe, all the while your bandwaggoning brothers have left years ago.

Hope you guys can turn into a mid 00s Nuggets or a Lillard Blazers team one day and can start tether between mid first round picks and laughing stock of the league.

[Splits]

KCP and Lopez cannot be here next year though...

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[RsxPiimp]

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:lol

[LkrFan]

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Took you long enough classh:lolle

[LkrFan]

25 / 5 / 5 for you snitches. Kuz went off again with 27 / 14. These close but not good enough losses are piling up tho.

[RsxPiimp]

25 / 5 / 5 for you snitches. Kuz went off again with 27 / 14. These close but not good enough losses are piling up tho.
58% TS in his last 8 games. lonzo’s confidence level is definitely getting there

[Killakobe81]

25 / 5 / 5 for you snitches. Kuz went off again with 27 / 14. These close but not good enough losses are piling up tho.

Lonzo is going to be fine ...no he aint gonna be better than Steph or Kidd but he will be good enough to help a better player lead us back to contention ...

[LkrFan]

More baby steps:

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[LkrFan]

Can we get rid of KCP? I know they tryna stay in Rich Paul's good graces but he killing us.

[Silver&Black]

Lonzo is going to be fine ...no he aint gonna be better than Steph or Kidd but he will be good enough to help a better player lead us back to contention ...

Same thing said about D'Snitch.
Same thing said about Ingram.

[LkrFan]

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[Killakobe81]

Same thing said about D'Snitch.
Same thing said about Ingram.

Still feel the same about Ingram and maybe Russell could have if he wasnt already having knee issues at 23 ...
.

[LkrFan]

I know it's not their MO but I wish the Lakers grew from within:

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Kuz is legit. I'd like to see him grow with Lonzo and BI. Hey, that's how these Dubs started...

[LkrFan]

Still feel the same about Ingram and maybe Russell could have if he wasnt already having knee issues at 23 ...
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I believe the Lakers knew about his knees or they would have kept him. That trade got rid of Moz contract and got us Kuz. :tu

[LkrFan]

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:wow

[daslicer]

I know it's not their MO but I wish the Lakers grew from within:

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Kuz is legit. I'd like to see him grow with Lonzo and BI. Hey, that's how these Dubs started...

That's how the Spurs have always operated with Duncan,Manu,Parker and now Kawhi. I have said a for while that's how the Lakers should have operated instead of being in rush for quick fixes like they did with Dwight and then their failed attempt with LMA. Lakers have a good young core in Lonzo,Kuzma,Ingram. In a few years when they are winning they should be able to attract a top 5 player in the league.

[Spurtacular]

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White Privilege.

[LkrFan]

That's how the Spurs have always operated with Duncan,Manu,Parker and now Kawhi. I have said a for while that's how the Lakers should have operated instead of being in rush for quick fixes like they did with Dwight and then their failed attempt with LMA. Lakers have a good young core in Lonzo,Kuzma,Ingram. In a few years when they are winning they should be able to attract a top 5 player in the league.

Agreed. I wanna see Zo, Kuz, BI, Hart and Thomas Bryant (who is lighting up the G League but hasn't played with the varsity yet) to grow together. Won't happen though, unfortunately.

[daslicer]

Agreed. I wanna see Zo, Kuz, BI, Hart and Thomas Bryant (who is lighting up the G League but hasn't played with the varsity yet) to grow together. Won't happen though, unfortunately.

Lakers should take a page out of their 90's rebuild. I remember the mid 90's team with Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Campbell, Ceballos, Divac were a good team. They allowed those guys to grow together for a few years and then they were able to steal Shaq. Lakers are currently in a similar situation where they need to let this team grow and develop a winning structure. They just have to wait it out for a few years and eventually they will be able to steal a top 5 player through FA or trade.

[LkrFan]

Lakers should take a page out of their 90's rebuild. I remember the mid 90's team with Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Campbell, Ceballos, Divac were a good team. They allowed those guys to grow together for a few years and then they were able to steal Shaq. Lakers are currently in a similar situation where they need to let this team grow and develop a winning structure. They just have to wait it out for a few years and eventually they will be able to steal a top 5 player through FA or trade.

Yep yep. Some of my favorite Laker teams were 1992-1995. They liked to run and gun like this team. We will have a ton of cap space too this summer. My wish list is PG13 and Boogie to lead our young core. We'll see if Magic Pelinka can pull something off.

[Raven]

the lakers seem to completely ignore that they have two wins more than the mavericks and that they started strong last year too..

[Raven]

They also seem to be ignoring they are in front of yet another rebuild season with half the team leaving and the likes of clarkson earning massive money

[Killakobe81]

They also seem to be ignoring they are in front of yet another rebuild season with half the team leaving and the likes of clarkson earning massive money

clarkson doesnt make massive money ...only guys making huge money are Lopez and KCP.
Doubtful either of those guys return and Clarkson is on a team friendly deal but would need to be moved to sign a third near max guy ...
personally our "strong start" dont mean dick its all about the core young pieces. If they develop im with those that hope we develop them rather than flipping them ...i would even prefer we keep randle if he is willing to wait out FA and sign a clarkson type deal....but by trading for Lopez (expiring) and signing KCP that does open spots at C and SG ...
rather than chase Boogie and PG13 which is probably plan A
I would sign Capela (better shot blocker and rim runner) and sign a shooter at SG with upside ...make a run at Klay the following year.
In two years when our core is developed id rather have Klay than George tbh ...and capela will be able to run better than Boogie but we lose spacing which is why we need a shooter at SG.
but im afraid we wont have the patience for dat

[Killakobe81]

They also seem to be ignoring they are in front of yet another rebuild season with half the team leaving and the likes of clarkson earning massive money

lol we are in the middle of a rebuild ..who is ignoring that? lf worst case that lopez KCP and Randle leave ...we haven't lost much especially since you argued Randle is a bust ...he is not ...but by your scouting we lose nada

[Isitjustme?]

Best case scenario: this kids a bust (already happening) and 2018 pick lands at #2 in lotto in which case it goes to Celtics who draft a legend.

We're halfway there folks

[Killakobe81]

Best case scenario: this kids a bust (already happening) and 2018 pick lands at #2 in lotto in which case it goes to Celtics who draft a legend.

We're halfway there folks

how does celts getting a top pick help yall?!
celts geeting a top 5 pick no one outside of Boston should root for that ...they already have a top 3 coach and plenty of young talent more than enough to entice young Leonard .. or unibrow.
but your obesession with my team is cute...
Yal gotta pray for Lonzo to bust ...
I dont pray for shit for yall cuz outside of this site we are not even rivals ...No Duncan = no rings ...
sans duncan yall just the pre 2011 Mavs or Nash era Suns ..
one great player, a innovative coach lots of solid support players = lots of regular season victories and no rings ...

[Isitjustme?]

how does celts getting a top pick help yall?!
celts geeting a top 5 pick no one outside of Boston should root for that ...they already have a top 3 coach and plenty of young talent more than enough to entice young Leonard .. or unibrow.
but your obesession with my team is cute...
Yal gotta pray for Lonzo to bust ...
I dont pray for shit for yall cuz outside of this site we are not even rivals ...No Duncan = no rings ...
sans duncan yall just the pre 2011 Mavs or Nash era Suns ..
one great player, a innovative coach lots of solid support players = lots of regular season victories and no rings ...

It helps me because I like to watch the lakers burn

[Killakobe81]

It helps me because I like to watch the lakers burn

ok cool ...
i get Sports hate its just funny when its one-sided ...
if not for this site or living in SA... i would have no clue ...about how much the Lakers matter to spurfan.
When i lived in L.A despite yall whipping our ass in a few playoff series late 90s and early 2000s .(besides Bowen) nothing to hate about Spurs ... i hated Utah Portland and Sacto ...and of course Boston.
i dont care enough about Spurs to wish you burn hope yall stay in this 50 win no ring cycle for a while...

[Raven]

lol we are in the middle of a rebuild ..who is ignoring that? lf worst case that lopez KCP and Randle leave ...we haven't lost much especially since you argued Randle is a bust ...he is not ...but by your scouting we lose nada

He is a bust, he is another JJ Hickson as I said from the start. Hickson could fill the boxscore too.. KCP and Lopez leaving are a given tbh.. Lopez is a bad fit and KCP will take whatever money he can get. Meaning Walton will have to recreate a gameplan and automatisms.. And then it's already time to max the sf .. can't remember his name, he's too forgettable. Clarkson is making more than Rudy Gay, Patty Mills or Danny Green.. Fankly, i would rather see Randle sign a Clarkson type contract tbh..

[Killakobe81]

He is a bust, he is another JJ Hickson as I said from the start. Hickson could fill the boxscore too.. KCP and Lopez leaving are a given tbh.. Lopez is a bad fit and KCP will take whatever money he can get. Meaning Walton will have to recreate a gameplan and automatisms.. And then it's already time to max the sf .. can't remember his name, he's too forgettable. Clarkson is making more than Rudy Gay, Patty Mills or Danny Green.. Fankly, i would rather see Randle sign a Clarkson type contract tbh..

yes Clarkson does make more because he is younger and although may be less proven doesnt play for the penny pinching Spurs ..plus he signed to stay on a shit team not a contender and tbs, i still rather have him than Mills tbh.
and i would take randle over poor mans Timmy oakafor ...lol

[Raven]

yes Clarkson does make more because he is younger and although may be less proven doesnt play for the penny pinching Spurs ..plus he signed to stay on a shit team not a contender and tbs, i still rather have him than Mills tbh.
and i would take randle over poor mans Timmy oakafor ...lol

so... you get paid more for playing less meaningful games and less in numbers anyway.. not to mention, you're not really accountable for the losses and there's always excuses for everyone..

[Killakobe81]

so... you get paid more for playing less meaningful games and less in numbers anyway.. not to mention, you're not really accountable for the losses and there's always excuses for everyone..

market dictates your pay ...
Spurs can lure past their prime guys to ring chase for less $
Clarkson had leverage cuz he was the best of a sorry lot ...
mills still is overpaid as is Pau ...green took a big discount god bless him but no more rings are coming to him or Pau regardless.

[Raven]

market dictates your pay ...
Spurs can lure past their prime guys to ring chase for less $
Clarkson had leverage cuz he was the best of a sorry lot ...
mills still is overpaid as is Pau ...green took a big discount god bless him but no more rings are coming to him or Pau regardless.

i don't remember anyone offering money to him..

[LkrFan]

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[midnightpulp]

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Fox's PER100 stats are better (scoring wise). Longo only leads in the per game stats because he gets a lot minutes for a rookie. Ball is definitely a better natural rebounder and passer than Fox, but those are two areas which have a reduced importance for PGs in the modern game. Both players are still raw, though. Fox probably has the better upside relative to what the modern NBA PG looks like.

[LkrFan]

Fox's PER100 stats are better (scoring wise). Longo only leads in the per game stats because he gets a lot minutes for a rookie. Ball is definitely a better natural rebounder and passer than Fox, but those are two areas which have a reduced importance for PGs in the modern game. Both players are still raw, though. Fox probably has the better upside relative to what the modern NBA PG looks like.

Lemme guess, you'd take Fox over Lonzo? He doesn't even start over garbage Hill. :lol

[dfens]

Lemme guess, you'd take Fox over Lonzo? He doesn't even start over garbage Hill. :lol

son what do you expect from these box score watching farmers tbh?
lonzo just has to work 2-3 years on that jumpshot to make it passable and he is a lock for 17-7-7 with GREAT d and excellent ball movement. we're set at that position for years tbh.

[Raven]

son what do you expect from these box score watching farmers tbh?
lonzo just has to work 2-3 years on that jumpshot to make it passable and he is a lock for 17-7-7 with GREAT d and excellent ball movement. we're set at that position for years tbh.

Call us when that happens.

[DMC]

Loingo Boingo not wanting to be embarrassed by the Hawaiian god MontaKuzuma on Christmas Day, "oh my shoulder hurts"....

[dfens]

Call us when that happens.

he has improved each month, the past 10 games he's shooting 38% from 3 and 42% from the field. he's a rookie averaging 1steal/1block and running a team properly, with great passing, ball movement and defense. y'all niggas are rearching smh, he's a very good pg in the making.

https://stats.nba.com/player/1628366/traditional/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Split=lastn

[LkrFan]

They are playing him off ball a bit more:

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More baby steps for our rookie PG. :tu

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

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:tu

[ambchang]

They are playing him off ball a bit more:

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More baby steps for our rookie PG. :tu

Notice how the hawks just didn’t bother to guard him. Cuz they knew he suck.

[midnightpulp]

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:tu

:tu indeed.

They're like 2-15 or something since Longo has "improved." I keep telling you, he won't be taken seriously as anything until he averages 20+ efficiently. Just the way the NBA PG works today. Assists and boards are irrelevant.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/manufacturer-suing-lavar-balls-big-baller-brand-over-non-payment/ar-BBI8sXX?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

[LkrFan]

:tu indeed.

They're like 2-15 or something since Longo has "improved." I keep telling you, he won't be taken seriously as anything until he averages 20+ efficiently. Just the way the NBA PG works today. Assists and boards are irrelevant.

He didn't play all 17 games during that 2-15 stretch so -20 points for misleading these farmers with your hate :lol

He don't need to score 20ppg. I'm good with him developing into about 15/8/6 on a consistent basis. He already rebounds on an elite level for a PG (not to mention he's a rookie). He is an above average passer too. His scoring will come. I'm not sweating efficiency because let you tell it, Kobe (44.7% - career) shouldn't make the HOF before D-Whistle (48.4% - career). When every non-Laker fan outside of ST know what's up :lol

Zo will be fine. :tu

[LkrFan]

Notice how the hawks just didn’t bother to guard him. Cuz they knew he suck.

He'd start for the Sp*rs (a playoff team) right now. I'm not joking either. Shhhhh!!! :)

[ambchang]

He'd start for the Sp*rs (a playoff team) right now. I'm not joking either. Shhhhh!!! :)

His dad would be CIAed two weeks into the season.

[Raven]

he's clearly a project. Shouldn't be starting until at least his third year, being left so alone for such big minutes every time, will hinder his development as far as shooting in traffic and as far as fixing his stroke is concerned. Granted, it will make his statlines look a lot better, but for a team that is trying to make him the face of the company, it's a very bad look.

[LkrFan]

Negatives vs his nemesis, Fox: Fox outscored him 16 to 5. Zo shot horribly percentage wise.

Positives: 11 rebounds (elite rebounder for a rookie PG). 11 assists (above average passer; teammates actually hit some shots this night; imagine him with better teammates next year :)). 1 turnover in 37 minutes (great considering how much he has the ball in his hand). Assist to turnover ratio: 11:1 (fantastic for a rookie PG). +33 vs Fox's -26.

Other than scoring, I wonder what else midnightpulp thinks Fox is better than Zo at? Scoring ain't everything son ;)

[LkrFan]

Just looked and saw Zo had 5 steals and a block too? What a damn bust he is! :lmao

[LkrFan]

His dad would be CIAed two weeks into the season.

:lol

[LkrFan]

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on Zo:

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Again, he'll get there. In the words of my man Thunder up: Not worried here. :tu

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

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[lebomb]

Trae Young is only 6'-2' and will be a better college and NBA player than Ball ever was or will be. He has a very high IQ and can distribute (22 assists tied NCAA record) and can score. He is leading the NCAA in points as a freshman. So Lavar is dumb as all hell if he thinks Lonzo will be the best ever as he says. :lmao

[LkrFan]

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[spurraider21]

lol lets jizz our pants because he traveled instead of just dribbling in the first place and making the same exact pass from 3 feet closer

[Raven]

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travel btw

[Raven]

lol lets jizz our pants because he traveled instead of just dribbling in the first place and making the same exact pass from 3 feet closer

beat me to it :lol

[LkrFan]

Truth Bomb:

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[LkrFan]

lol lets jizz our pants because he traveled instead of just dribbling in the first place and making the same exact pass from 3 feet closer

:lol - was travelling called? No? Then he didn't travel. :downspin:

[Clipper Nation]

Truth Bomb:

950979371069710338
The real truth bomb: if your point guard can't be a legitimate, consistent threat to score, you can't build a team around them in this era.

Though it is pretty funny to see former Kobe stans suddenly discover that there are other stats in the box score besides points.

[LkrFan]

The real truth bomb: if your point guard can't be a legitimate, consistent threat to score, you can't build a team around them in this era.

Though it is pretty funny to see former Kobe stans suddenly discover that there are other stats in the box score besides points.

:lol Name in the front first, then the name in the back. You know my steelo. I will root for anyone that dons the P&G. Especially Kobe due to the cow milking Laker haters who frequent this site. :lol

We'll see. I am of the opinion that free agents will want to play with him. He'll be no better than a 3rd option and I'm cool with that. As long as he is feeding them early and often, we good. Consider this Laker team as currently constructed. Zo is 8th in assists, Lakers are #1 in pace, we are likely top 3 in paint points, 10th in ppg, 2nd in rebounds per game, and likely upper echelon in fastbreak points.

All this despite a young ass roster and Zo not being a huge scoring threat. When he has better teammates, and his numbers spike I'm sure you farmers will move the goal post whenever it's convenient. It's all good though ;)

[Splits]

Consider this Laker team as currently constructed. Zo is 8th in assists, Lakers are #1 in pace, we are likely top 3 in paint points, 10th in ppg, 2nd in rebounds per game, and likely upper echelon in fastbreak points.

https://i.imgur.com/Hi7WHoJ.png

[spurraider21]

Consider this Laker team as currently constructed. Zo is 8th in assists, Lakers are #1 in pace, we are likely top 3 in paint points, 10th in ppg, 2nd in rebounds per game, and likely upper echelon in fastbreak points.


https://i.imgur.com/Hi7WHoJ.png

http://i.giphy.com/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA.gif

[spurraider21]

:lmao #1 in pace but #10 in ppg

[140]

https://i.imgur.com/Hi7WHoJ.png
Holy shit I had no idea the lakers had a worse record than the Mavs tbh :lmao

[dfens]

Holy shit I had no idea the lakers had a worse record than the Mavs tbh :lmao

son what can I say, jimbo buss has less balls than his sister tbh :cry

[whitemamba]

Holy shit I had no idea the lakers had a worse record than the Mavs tbh :lmao

this year is a non-issue, well be stacked next year.

[Chucho]

lol lets jizz our pants because he traveled instead of just dribbling in the first place and making the same exact pass from 3 feet closer

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSzW0Y2NG2YXepCOptb1PNUBt4_4xlI q96s2_UUsygS1BbbfRO7Q

[Chucho]

:lol Name in the front first, then the name in the back. You know my steelo. I will root for anyone that dons the P&G. Especially Kobe due to the cow milking Laker haters who frequent this site. :lol

We'll see. I am of the opinion that free agents will want to play with him. He'll be no better than a 3rd option and I'm cool with that. As long as he is feeding them early and often, we good. Consider this Laker team as currently constructed. Zo is 8th in assists, Lakers are #1 in pace, we are likely top 3 in paint points, 10th in ppg, 2nd in rebounds per game, and likely upper echelon in fastbreak points.

All this despite a young ass roster and Zo not being a huge scoring threat. When he has better teammates, and his numbers spike I'm sure you farmers will move the goal post whenever it's convenient. It's all good though ;)

You guys are getting "stars" with no ability to win. You're not getting Top Shelf talent like King, you're going to end up with Boogie and/or Paul "Boy" George at best. That'll get you one expensive 38-42 win season.

[Clipper Nation]

this year is a non-issue, well be stacked next year.
t. Laker fans every year since 48.5

[hater]

Gonzo Testicle is a great player and hes only a rookie

The sky is the likit for Testicle

[LkrFan]

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[ambchang]

:lol Name in the front first, then the name in the back. You know my steelo. I will root for anyone that dons the P&G. Especially Kobe due to the cow milking Laker haters who frequent this site. :lol

We'll see. I am of the opinion that free agents will want to play with him. He'll be no better than a 3rd option and I'm cool with that. As long as he is feeding them early and often, we good. Consider this Laker team as currently constructed. Zo is 8th in assists, Lakers are #1 in pace, we are likely top 3 in paint points, 10th in ppg, 2nd in rebounds per game, and likely upper echelon in fastbreak points.

All this despite a young ass roster and Zo not being a huge scoring threat. When he has better teammates, and his numbers spike I'm sure you farmers will move the goal post whenever it's convenient. It's all good though ;)

How is it even possible that a team can be number 1 in pace and 10th in ppg? To top it off, the fans would actually think that’s a good thing.

[ambchang]

951522113738891264

Could somebody pull the stats for the first 34 games for michale carter Williams?

:lol of this cherry picking.

[hater]

Gonzo Testicle is a great player and hes only a rookie

The sky is the likit for Testicle

Called it

Hes taking a wet steamy shit on the Spurs :lmao

Spin that shut sperm fans :lmao

[Isitjustme?]

The real truth bomb: if your point guard can't be a legitimate, consistent threat to score, you can't build a team around them in this era.

Though it is pretty funny to see former Kobe stans suddenly discover that there are other stats in the box score besides points.

Maybe he can do a Rondo and hook up with three Hall of Famers and win a title as the fifth option?

[Isitjustme?]

If so the Lakers are only three Hall of Famers away from success!

[Bynumite]

Ingram and Lonzo going off on the cucks :lmao

After all the shit talking coming from spurfans about the Lakers so called busts, gotta sting watching them taking a shit on your team :lol

[Stabula]

Ingram and Lonzo going off on the cucks :lmao

After all the shit talking coming from spurfans about the Lakers so called busts, gotta sting watching them taking a shit on your team :lol

Not at all. Meaningless game where the Spurs were missing half their roster and the scrubs under performed. Pop's coaching and Patty Mill's mere existence were both frustrating though, I'll admit.

[ambchang]

If so the Lakers are only three Hall of Famers away from success!

Like 2012?

[LkrFan]

Could somebody pull the stats for the first 34 games for michale carter Williams?

:lol of this cherry picking.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Trae Young is only 6'-2' and will be a better college and NBA player than Ball ever was or will be. He has a very high IQ and can distribute (22 assists tied NCAA record) and can score. He is leading the NCAA in points as a freshman. So Lavar is dumb as all hell if he thinks Lonzo will be the best ever as he says. :lmao
Zo "busted" Murray's balloon knot last night doe! :lmao

[LkrFan]

:lmao #1 in pace but #10 in ppg

True story :lol

[lebomb]

Spurs would have won by 20 with Kawhi, Parker, Green and Gay playing. So dont get all worked up. :claw

[LkrFan]

Spurs would have won by 20 with Kawhi, Parker, Green and Gay playing. So dont get all worked up. :claw
Maybe, maybe not. Despite our putrid record, we beat 4 playoff teams: Rockets, 76ers (:lol), Wizards, and now your Sp*rs. Although we lost 3 times to the Dubs, we took them to OT twice and were in it to win it in all 3 games.

I don't put much stock in "moral victories" but I like how our team competes. Our core players are so young that it blows my mind that we can beat the Rockets, but lose to the damn Hornets. SMH

Sigh...growing pains of a young roster. We're taking our lumps now, but we'll be better for it in the future :toast

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Spurs
:lol Making Lonzo Bust look good

[LkrFan]

BUST

vs the Sp*rs:

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Zo is undefeated vs the Sp*rs. :)

[140]

:lmao spurms

[lebomb]

:lmao spurms


:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt: > :lobt:

[Killakobe81]

Maybe, maybe not. Despite our putrid record, we beat 4 playoff teams: Rockets, 76ers (:lol), Wizards, and now your Sp*rs. Although we lost 3 times to the Dubs, we took them to OT twice and were in it to win it in all 3 games.

I don't put much stock in "moral victories" but I like how our team competes. Our core players are so young that it blows my mind that we can beat the Rockets, but lose to the damn Hornets. SMH

Sigh...growing pains of a young roster. We're taking our lumps now, but we'll be better for it in the future :toast

agree with this ...
FT shooting alone hast cost us at least 3 games ...
if we can win or split the next two vs Grizz and Mavs ..or better yet win next three ...we will be just off track for the 35 wins i hoped for ...baby steps

[ambchang]

Could somebody pull the stats for the first 34 games for michale carter Williams?

:lol of this cherry picking.

Might as well do it myself. First 34 games of MCW’s career:
13-21
29.9 3pt%
40.4 fg%
70.8 Ft%
5.6 rpg
6.7 apg
2.4spg
17.4 ppg
35mpg
2.0ast/to

[lebomb]

Maybe, maybe not. Despite our putrid record, we beat 4 playoff teams: Rockets, 76ers (:lol), Wizards, and now your Sp*rs. Although we lost 3 times to the Dubs, we took them to OT twice and were in it to win it in all 3 games.

I don't put much stock in "moral victories" but I like how our team competes. Our core players are so young that it blows my mind that we can beat the Rockets, but lose to the damn Hornets. SMH

Sigh...growing pains of a young roster. We're taking our lumps now, but we'll be better for it in the future :toast

Pump tha brakes niggra............LA beat the Spurs who were missing 3-4 starters. Parker, Kawhi, Green and Gay. If they played LA would have lost by 20 and you know it. Also, 2 of the 3 losses to GSW were without Curry.

[Capt Bringdown]

Scrubs see the Spurs on their schedule, and their little hearts go pitter-patter. Polishing turds is a Pop tradition.

[LkrFan]

Pump tha brakes niggra............LA beat the Spurs who were missing 3-4 starters. Parker, Kawhi, Green and Gay. If they played LA would have lost by 20 and you know it. Also, 2 of the 3 losses to GSW were without Curry.
:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiit! :lol Boiled down: Zo never lost to the Sp*rs :lmao

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:lol

[LkrFan]

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Right now he's past 2nd year rookie Ben Simmons too :)

[lebomb]

:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiit! :lol Boiled down: Zo never lost to the Sp*rs :lmao

:lol

A healthy Spurs team no. When they are 100%, there is no way in hell Zo is getting that W.

[LkrFan]

A healthy Spurs team no. When they are 100%, there is no way in hell Zo is getting that W.

Zo, coming to push the Sp*rs shit in last night:

https://i.imgur.com/9uRoFTL.gif

Did you notice det trickle of blood coming from Sp*rs fawtbox at the end? :rollin :lmao :rollin

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao celebrating regular season victories

Sad that Laker fans have come to this. It would be like Spurs fan celebrating a December win over the Nets.

[LkrFan]

:lmao celebrating regular season victories

Sad that Laker fans have come to this. It would be like Spurs fan celebrating a December win over the Nets.

^ Maaaaaaaaaaaaad AF! :lmao

[Bill_Brasky]

^ Maaaaaaaaaaaaad AF! :lmao

Congratulations on your January 11th championship over the mighty Spurms son. I wonder if Lonzo's daddeh still thinks that Luke Walton is a scrub coach.

[hater]

:lmao spur fans are the worst at judging talent tbh

[Mikeanaro]

Spurs would have won by 20 with Kawhi, Parker, Green and Gay playing. So dont get all worked up. :claw
Maybe dont, lots of scrubs gave lessons to the Spurs even with Duncan and younger Parker & Ginobili, Spurs won 2 titles in that sucky era ´07 & ´14, and scrubs faded into oblivion.

[LkrFan]

Player: 10.7/7.8/7.6 in 31.8MPG, 31.6% 3 point shooting, 1.4 steals, 1.3 blocks

Player: 10.2/7.1/7.1 in 33.7MPG, 30.9% 3 point shooting, 1.5 steals, 0.9 blocks

One of these players is an all star, the other is Zo. Can you farmers guess which one is which?

:downspin:

[hater]

Gonzo Testicle is probably the one who is shooting worse?

[StrengthAndHonor]

The other player is Draymond Green.

[Jules_Winnfield]

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/others/594391/liangelo-lamelo-ball-scoreless-pro-debut/


Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSUWgDHwekU

Boxscore

http://en.lkl.lt/rungtynes/92#mbt:73-400$t&0=1

[LkrFan]

Gonzo Testicle is probably the one who is shooting worse?

Yep yep, yet Zo (a rookie PG) gets killed around here. Dr. Dray is an all star - yet their numbers are nearly identical. This supports my theory. Dray has better teammates, and won rangs - despite not being a great "scorer". If Zo gets better teammates around him, why can't he contend for rangs too?

[LkrFan]

The other player is Draymond Green.

Verdad.

[Raven]

Player: 10.7/7.8/7.6 in 31.8MPG, 31.6% 3 point shooting, 1.4 steals, 1.3 blocks

Player: 10.2/7.1/7.1 in 33.7MPG, 30.9% 3 point shooting, 1.5 steals, 0.9 blocks

One of these players is an all star, the other is Zo. Can you farmers guess which one is which?

:downspin:



what about the ft shooting?

[ambchang]

Yep yep, yet Zo (a rookie PG) gets killed around here. Dr. Dray is an all star - yet their numbers are nearly identical. This supports my theory. Dray has better teammates, and won rangs - despite not being a great "scorer". If Zo gets better teammates around him, why can't he contend for rangs too?

Like Tmac, carter, Iverson, Pierce, Allen and billups would’ve won 3 straight with prime shaq.

Congrats, you finally realize teammates matter.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Just hilarious to see Kobe stans flip-flop on all of their old arguments to defend Lonzo Bust.

[lebomb]

Lmao Lonzo 4-13 f/g. 1-7 3pt. Back to normal.

[LkrFan]

Like Tmac, carter, Iverson, Pierce, Allen and billups would’ve won 3 straight with prime shaq.

Congrats, you finally realize teammates matter.

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[LkrFan]

Lmao Lonzo 4-13 f/g. 1-7 3pt. Back to normal.

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[LkrFan]

:lol Just hilarious to see Kobe stans flip-flop on all of their old arguments to defend Lonzo Bust.

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[LkrFan]

what about the ft shooting?

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[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

I just realized...Zo has beaten every team in Texas as a rookie that can't shoot! BAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! :lmao

[ambchang]

951863264849354752

:lol at least laker fans are still great at cherry picking.

[ambchang]

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Among all team in the nba, the lakers are #1 in pace.

Oh, they are also one of the worst teams overall.

[Clipper Nation]

951638227386945536

https://i.imgur.com/emSAOGI.jpg

Kobe and Lonzo did that. :)

[lebomb]

DLO or Lonzo?

[Raven]

while he's not all bad, you can easily make a strong case for him being the 6th best pg on this rookie class..

[LkrFan]

DLO or Lonzo?

Zo and it ain't even close. If D'Lo shot is clanking he's useless tbh. Shooting is the only thing he even has on Zo.

[LkrFan]

while he's not all bad, you can easily make a strong case for him being the 6th best pg on this rookie class.. :lmao

[Silver&Black]

Yep yep, yet Zo (a rookie PG) gets killed around here. Dr. Dray is an all star - yet their numbers are nearly identical. This supports my theory. Dray has better teammates, and won rangs - despite not being a great "scorer". If Zo gets better teammates around him, why can't he contend for rangs too?

So...give Longo 2 of the best players in the world (like Draymond) and he'll contend for rangs?

Damn...you're a hot take machine Humberto.

[LkrFan]

So...give Longo 2 of the best players in the world (like Draymond) and he'll contend for rangs?

Damn...you're a hot take machine Humberto. :lol

[LkrFan]

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I would laugh my ass :lmaoff

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think his game will successfully translate to stardom in today's NBA, but he's already one of the best leaders in the league, tbh..Lakers are a different team when he's playing..

[Raven]

I don't think his game will successfully translate to stardom in today's NBA, but he's already one of the best leaders in the league, tbh..Lakers are a different team when he's playing..

that's because their pg depth is sub d league worthy

[StrengthAndHonor]

I don't think his game will successfully translate to stardom in today's NBA, but he's already one of the best leaders in the league, tbh..Lakers are a different team when he's playing..
Good to see you back bro.

[Clipper Nation]

The actual best rookie point guard in LA coming through:

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[LkrFan]

The actual best rookie point guard in LA coming through:

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Riiiiiiight.The real difference is Mila is playing with an all star frontline. Give Zo all star bigs and then talk if the Lakers don't make noise. Zo got Lopez and Tyronnosaurus Randle; Mila working with two all star :monkeys

You betta hope Cousins don't come to LA son. Zo will turn him into the Shaq 2.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Riiiiiiight.The real difference is Mila is playing with an all star frontline. Give Zo all star bigs and then talk if the Lakers don't make noise. Zo got Lopez and Tyronnosaurus Randle; Mila working with two all star :monkeys

You betta hope Cousins don't come to LA son. Zo will turn him into the Shaq 2.:lol
No, the real difference is that Milos is the Point God whereas Lonzo is a bust. Put Milos on the Lakers and they'd be in the mix for a playoff spot.

Cousins has played with Rondo, Isaiah, Andre Miller, and Darren Collison, all of whom are way better than Lonzo, and still never sniffed the playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

LA Rookie Point Guard Power Rankings:

1. Milos Teodosic
2. Tyrone Wallace
3. Jawun Evans

Unranked: Lonzo Bust

[LkrFan]

No, the real difference is that Milos is the Point God whereas Lonzo is a bust. Put Milos on the Lakers and they'd be in the mix for a playoff spot.

Cousins has played with Rondo, Isaiah, Andre Miller, and Darren Collison, all of whom are way better than Lonzo, and still never sniffed the playoffs.

Quoting for future LULZ :)

[LkrFan]

LA Rookie Point Guard Power Rankings:

1. Milos Teodosic
2. Tyrone Wallace
3. Jawun Evans

Unranked: Lonzo Bust

:lmao

[LkrFan]

953154804645183489

But but but scoring, shooting percentages, Kuz is your best player. Zo is the most important player on the Lakers.

[ambchang]

Riiiiiiight.The real difference is Mila is playing with an all star frontline. Give Zo all star bigs and then talk if the Lakers don't make noise. Zo got Lopez and Tyronnosaurus Randle; Mila working with two all star :monkeys

You betta hope Cousins don't come to LA son. Zo will turn him into the Shaq 2.:lol

Laker fans still throwing the front court under the bus to prop up an overhyped backcourt player?

[ambchang]

953154804645183489

But but but scoring, shooting percentages, Kuz is your best player. Zo is the most important player on the Lakers.

Yup, still doing it.

[LkrFan]

Laker fans still throwing the front court under the bus to prop up an overhyped backcourt player?
Would you trade Randle for LMA? How about Lopez for MVPau? No and No? Then STFU s:loln

[LkrFan]

Yup, still doing it.

Our young ass team sucks, but Zo impacts us moreso than everyone, including Kuz. And I like Kuz alot.

[lebomb]

Imagine his impact if he could shoot.

[LkrFan]

Imagine his impact if he could shoot.

Truth

[LkrFan]

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:lol at Zo jersey more popular than all Sp*r players :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Zo the best rookie**:

953319690268389376


**Ben Gay Simmons is a 2nd year player

[140]

The actual best rookie point guard in LA coming through:

953147838367612928
:worthy::worthy::worthy:

[Clipper Nation]

Laker fans still throwing the front court under the bus to prop up an overhyped backcourt player?
It's funny how Kobe stans have suddenly taken interest in the quality of a team's frontcourt. They never wanted to talk about that when Kobe was playing.

[Raven]

Riiiiiiight.The real difference is Mila is playing with an all star frontline. Give Zo all star bigs and then talk if the Lakers don't make noise. Zo got Lopez and Tyronnosaurus Randle; Mila working with two all star :monkeys

You betta hope Cousins don't come to LA son. Zo will turn him into the Shaq 2.:lol

you mean all star frontcourt players like brook lopez and luol deng?

[LkrFan]

you mean all star frontcourt players like brook lopez and luol deng?

:lol good one

[spurraider21]

Zo the best rookie**:

953319690268389376


**Ben Gay Simmons is a 2nd year player
im not sure you understand this chart at all tbh :lol

he's a negative on offense according to det

[ambchang]

Would you trade Randle for LMA? How about Lopez for MVPau? No and No? Then STFU s:loln

Why. What does that have to do with anything? Those two are more than serviceable.

[ambchang]

Zo the best rookie**:

953319690268389376


**Ben Gay Simmons is a 2nd year player

Do you k ownhow to read graphs? How is -45 offensive point added a good thing?

[Raven]

im not sure you understand this chart at all tbh :lol

he's a negative on offense according to det

he probably didn't see the right vertical line.. :lol

[MultiTroll]

Would you trade Lopez for MVPau?
In a heartbeat.

[Raven]

In a heartbeat.

lopez gets 22 per season.. fuck that shit tbh

[MultiTroll]

lopez gets 22 per season.. fuck that shit tbh
Expires this year.
Popped gave Pau two years after this. :lmao

[lebomb]

Looks to me like Lonzo will be injury prone as well. He has already missed lots of games due to injury.

[Trill Clinton]

O-8 without lonzo

[LkrFan]

O-8 without lonzo
It's comical how lost they look without him. Here's his team ranks when he plays:

#1 in rebounds at 7.1rpg
#1 in assists at 7.1apg
#2 in steals at 1.5spg
#2 in blocks at 0.9bpg
#7 in sc:lolring at 10.2ppg

If the numbers he is putting up is his "floor" we got a nice PG to build around going forward. Hate on his shooting percentages all you want, but we're a respectable 15-21 in the 36 games he played in. Especially with such a young ass roster.

[ambchang]

It's comical how lost they look without him. Here's his team ranks when he plays:

#1 in rebounds at 7.1rpg
#1 in assists at 7.1apg
#2 in steals at 1.5spg
#2 in blocks at 0.9bpg
#7 in sc:lolring at 10.2ppg

If the numbers he is putting up is his "floor" we got a nice PG to build around going forward. Hate on his shooting percentages all you want, but we're a respectable 15-21 in the 36 games he played in. Especially with such a young ass roster.

Was:
Kobe > Jim because of scoring
5>4, then 5 first > 5 later
Team accomplishments!!!!
Ring or nothing.

Now:
Sc:lolring
Lakers have scrubs except Lonzo
Progress is important, even though we are having one of the worst records in the league.

[LkrFan]

Dame is not a Big Baller. Jelly that Zo has more votes than him:


https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/images/br-logo-bw.pnghttps://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/719/173/hi-res-763fdbd4cd81c11b09374d11638f85b8_crop_north.jpg?15 16290773&w=3072&h=2048Steve Dykes/Associated PressDamian Lillard Talks All-Star Game Snubs, Having Fewer Votes Than Lonzo Ball

TIM DANIELS (http://bleacherreport.com/users/499714)
(http://twitter.com/TimDanielsBR)
JANUARY 18, 2018
Portland Trail Blazers (http://bleacherreport.com/portland-trail-blazers) point guard Damian Lillard (http://bleacherreport.com/damian-lillard) said he's "frustrated" by the lack of respect he's received in terms of NBA All-Star selections, but he's not surprised he's behind Los Angeles Lakers (http://bleacherreport.com/los-angeles-lakers) rookie Lonzo Ball in this year's voting due to the hype around Ball.
Lillard has made two All-Star Game appearances, most recently in 2015, and he addressed the topic in an interview with Chris Haynes (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22142336/damian-lillard-portland-trail-blazers-frustrated-recent-all-star-snubs) of ESPN.com:
"I've gotten frustrated just for the fact that it feels like I always got to be the fall guy and every other guy has been deserving. In the past, the thing has been, 'All right, my team has been 10 games under .500 or not in the playoffs,' but every year we've found a way to be in the postseason, and this year I think we're in much better position than we have been in the past two seasons that I didn't make it. I think I've gotten over the emotional part of it the last few times that I didn't make it. Now I'm kind of like expecting it to go that way, but I feel like I should be there."


"He plays for the Los Angeles Lakers, one of the most, if not the most, storied franchises in that big of a market," Lillard told Haynes. "So, so many people are going to support him throughout that, and also with his dad and all the attention that's been surrounding him since college. There's a lot of people that follow him, so, that's not really a surprise to me. The market size and what's going on with his family, it's no surprise really to me."

That quote touches me :cry

If Zo makes the ASG before Dame :rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

Was:
Kobe > Jim because of scoring
5>4, then 5 first > 5 later
Team accomplishments!!!!
Ring or nothing.

Now:
Sc:lolring
Lakers have scrubs except Lonzo
Progress is important, even though we are having one of the worst records in the league.

Kuz is 0-8 without Zo
Kuz is 15-21 with Zo

Draw your own conclusions ;)

[lebomb]

Getting all star votes based on hype. :jack

[Clipper Nation]

I'm pretty sure Lillard whining and crying is an All-Star Game tradition at this point. He already cried his way to two more ASG appearances than Mike Conley's ever had, even though Conley's arguably the better player.

I usually don't give a shit about this, but now I'm really hoping Lou Williams makes it in over Lillard and Lonzo Bust.

[LkrFan]

Getting all star votes based on hype. :jack

You mean Manure? :downspin:

[LkrFan]

:cry.

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Yes, that's a good impression of Lillard, tbh.

[LkrFan]

:lmao

[ambchang]

Kuz is 0-8 without Zo
Kuz is 15-21 with Zo

Draw your own conclusions ;)

So now it’s records instead of titles. What is time winning percentage and Kobe’s? What did Kobe accomplish without the best frontcourt in the league?

Pick a lane.

[LkrFan]

So now it’s records instead of titles. What is time winning percentage and Kobe’s? What did Kobe accomplish without the best frontcourt in the league?

Pick a lane.

Did Kobe fuck your wife or something? :lol This is a Lonzo thread. There many many many Kobe threads in this bitch. Go post your Kobe-fetish nonsense elsewhere.

The Dubs won the title. amb: but Kobe...

LeHype is the GOAT. amb: but Kobe...

Kiwi might be lost for the year. amb: but Kobe...

Pop ran out of Proactive. amb: but Kobe...

Damn! :lmao

[ambchang]

Did Kobe fuck your wife or something? :lol This is a Lonzo thread. There many many many Kobe threads in this bitch. Go post your Kobe-fetish nonsense elsewhere.

The Dubs won the title. amb: but Kobe...

LeHype is the GOAT. amb: but Kobe...

Kiwi might be lost for the year. amb: but Kobe...

Pop ran out of Proactive. amb: but Kobe...

Damn! :lmao

Find those threads.

Given your response I think he smashed you.

[LkrFan]

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[Clipper Nation]

954280599451197440
They'd have lost all of those games by even larger margins with Lonzo Bust, tbh.

[LkrFan]

They'd have lost all of those games by even larger margins with Lonzo Bust, tbh.

Nah, you trolling. :lol Recap:

- Clipps, Boston, OKC, Wizards, and maybe 1 other team truly beat us down this year

- Playoff teams we beat: Wizards, Rockets, and 6ers

- Loss to Dubs 3 times, but took them to OT twice, and were in all 3 games

- We were in it to win it in several other games, including your EC team: the Cavs

I'm not for moral victories, but given the above, we are a respectable 15-21 when Zo plays. When he doesn't, you saw the Tweet. The analytics and my eye test say the Lakers are pathetic without him.

Lastly, if 10/7/7 is the worst stats he'll produce (his floor), I'll take it. Keep trolling though. I enjoy it. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

:lol "I'm not for moral victories"
:lol Your entire post is a celebration of moral victories

Damn... the absolute state of Warriors, I mean, "Laker fans."

[LkrFan]

:lol "I'm not for moral victories"
:lol Your entire post is a celebration of moral victories

Damn... the absolute state of Warriors, I mean, "Laker fans."
SMH :lol

[LkrFan]

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[dfens]

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lonzo is an amazing defender, anybody who watches the lakers can attest to that. the hate he gets as a rookie is just :lol

[Clipper Nation]

lonzo is an amazing defender, anybody who watches the lakers can attest to that. the hate he gets as a rookie is just :lol

People are just stating facts about Lonzo Bust's performance. If that sounds like hating to you, maybe that should tell you something.

[dfens]

People are just stating facts about Lonzo Bust's performance. If that sounds like hating to you, maybe that should tell you something.

a rookie averaging 10/7/7 while being great defender and a great team player, also doesn't need touches.

only has to work on his shot to become a complete player, easy potential for a 18-8-8 prime ... lol thinking he is a bust, it tells me people don't understand basketball at all :lol

[Raven]

lonzo is an amazing defender, anybody who watches the lakers can attest to that. the hate he gets as a rookie is just :lol

you guys say the same stuff every year :lmao

[dfens]

you guys say the same stuff every year :lmao

son don't put me in the same lot with some of the laker fans in here. I never said randle will be a 20-10 player or that kobe > duncan or lebron. I'm telling it like it is tbh. Lonzo ball will be a good player because he is smart, has good effort and besides a consistent jumpshot is the total package. Anybody failing to see that has zero eye for talent tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

He's putting up empty stats on a bad team right now. Big whoop.

The fact remains that if you're going to build a franchise around a point guard in today's era, they need to be able to shoot and score at a dominant level, and Lonzo can't do that. He probably never will. All the other stats are just noise unless he somehow becomes that type of point guard.

[dfens]

He's putting up empty stats on a bad team right now. Big whoop.

The fact remains that if you're going to build a franchise around a point guard in today's era, they need to be able to shoot and score at a dominant level, and Lonzo can't do that. He probably never will. All the other stats are just noise unless he somehow becomes that type of point guard.

:lol the lakers have a better record with him, check it out if you want
:lol he plays team first, so he isn't taking touches from anybody but sacrificing his own stats
:lol the lakers are a full 6pts better defensively with him on the floor
:lol judging young players by stats, bet you had a great opinion on curry/paul george/kwahi/etc
:lol shoot first pgs being the key to winning rings, curry has 1 fmvp vote
:lol irrational hate
:lol lakers aren't building around ball
:lol all stats are noise besides shooting because it somehow suits my argument.
:lol saying a rookie will never improve


come on son get the fuck outta here with this low quality trolling :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol the lakers have a better record with him, check it out if you want
:lol he plays team first, so he isn't taking touches from anybody but sacrificing his own stats
:lol the lakers are a full 6pts better defensively with him on the floor
:lol judging young players by stats, bet you had a great opinion on curry/paul george/kwahi/etc
:lol shoot first pgs being the key to winning rings, curry has 1 fmvp vote
:lol irrational hate
:lol lakers aren't building around ball
:lol all stats are noise besides shooting because it somehow suits my argument.
:lol saying a rookie will never improve


come on son get the fuck outta here with this low quality trolling :lol
Reality:

:lol The Lakers are trash, with and without him
:lol There's a difference between playing team first and not being a threat to score
:lol Defense doesn't matter nearly as much at the PG position as being a threat to score
:lol Moving the goalposts from "but he's averaging 10/7/7!" to "you can't judge a rookie on their stats!"
:lol Curry has two rings; meanwhile, guys like CP0 and Wall can't even get past the second round
:lol Rational criticism
:lol The Lakers drafted Ball with the #2 pick and are treating him like the franchise savior - how are they not building around him?
:lol Trusting pass-first PGs to win jack shit as the first option in today's league
:lol Thinking that broke-ass jump shot is guaranteed to improve

[dfens]

Reality:

:lol The Lakers are trash, with and without him
son the lakers are trash but they play better with him, both stats and eye test show this.
:lol There's a difference between playing team first and not being a threat to score
scoring doesn't equal shooting, but yes he is poor at that .. he'll get better.
:lol Defense doesn't matter nearly as much at the PG position as being a threat to score
yes, for small pgs, but having a pg able to switch up on bigs is invaluable. his defense is actually exceptional for his age if you'd bother watching the games.
:lol Moving the goalposts from "but he's averaging 10/7/7!" to "you can't judge a rookie on their stats!"
i'm saying that he's doing good for a rookie but I won't judge his career by his 1st season stats
:lol Curry has two rings; meanwhile, guys like CP0 and Wall can't even get past the second round
curry has two rings because he had stacked as fuck teams. give the warriors to cp0 and wall and they also ring in 2016.
:lol Rational criticism
you know nothing about it tbh
:lol The Lakers drafted Ball with the #2 pick and are treating him like the franchise savior - how are they not building around him?
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao that's why they're giving kuzma so many shots and running the offense through ingram
:lol Trusting pass-first PGs to win jack shit as the first option in today's league
nigga he isn't the center piece, he's just a good future piece.
:lol Thinking that broke-ass jump shot is guaranteed to improve
he shot 40% 3p in college on good volume and his % have been improving throughout the season. The odds are in favor of improvement


wasting my time here..

[spurraider21]

no shit. CN's takes are all just troll opinions that he takes to the extreme, which he then regurgitates enough times to the point where he actually believes the shit he was originally posting just to fuck with people

[LkrFan]

1st win without Zo vs a playoff team!

:smokin

[Clipper Nation]

Caruso's dunk tonight was better than Lonzo's whole career, tbh.

[LkrFan]

Caruso's dunk tonight was better than Lonzo's whole career, tbh.

You like scoring so much, why you hate Kobe? ;)

[Clipper Nation]

You like scoring so much, why you hate Kobe? ;)

Kobe was an overrated chucker.

I'm just saying, in today's NBA, you can't have a point guard dominating the ball to the degree Lonzo does - he's leading the Lakers in touches per game and time of possession by a significant margin - when they're not an efficient scoring threat to keep defenses honest. 10 PPG on an atrocious 43% TS is not going to cut it. Like Mid said earlier in the thread, he would need to become a 20 PPG scorer on efficient percentages to justify the #2 pick - and I'm not really seeing it.

[Raven]

son don't put me in the same lot with some of the laker fans in here. I never said randle will be a 20-10 player or that kobe > duncan or lebron. I'm telling it like it is tbh. Lonzo ball will be a good player because he is smart, has good effort and besides a consistent jumpshot is the total package. Anybody failing to see that has zero eye for talent tbh.

he's not. He's not athletic and doesn't have a shot. That right there should close every discussion about him being anywhere near a total package, today tomorrow or anytime soon. The fact he rebounds and passes is meh at best if you consider that your team is a lottery one, and the thing about defense... i mean you're clearly ignoring the fact that he missed a huge part of the hard part of the schedule. Of course his numbers will be skewed. I've said it many times to many people, advanced stats are irrelevant when it comes to rookies.

[dfens]

Kobe was an overrated chucker.

I'm just saying, in today's NBA, you can't have a point guard dominating the ball to the degree Lonzo does - he's leading the Lakers in touches per game and time of possession by a significant margin - when they're not an efficient scoring threat to keep defenses honest. 10 PPG on an atrocious 43% TS is not going to cut it. Like Mid said earlier in the thread, he would need to become a 20 PPG scorer on efficient percentages to justify the #2 pick - and I'm not really seeing it.

nba has him 4th in usage on the entire team :rolleyes :lmao:lmao:lmao

[lebomb]

Damn............... Clarksons box tonight. 33/7/7 and 14 of 19 from the field.

[Clipper Nation]

954817606892032006

:lmao

[LkrFan]

Kobe was an overrated chucker.

I'm just saying, in today's NBA, you can't have a point guard dominating the ball to the degree Lonzo does - he's leading the Lakers in touches per game and time of possession by a significant margin - when they're not an efficient scoring threat to keep defenses honest. 10 PPG on an atrocious 43% TS is not going to cut it. Like Mid said earlier in the thread, he would need to become a 20 PPG scorer on efficient percentages to justify the #2 pick - and I'm not really seeing it.

His usage rate is much lower these last 10 games or so as compared to the beginning of the season. But he's setting the table for us. We just not taking advantage by missing shots or turning it over (characteristics of a young roster).

Once we field a better roster you'll see him be even more effective than he is now. I believe his scoring will come although he'll never be 50/40/90 like Steph. He does everything else well including playing D, like I've said.

I'm pleased with his development so far. He'll only get better.

[LkrFan]

nba has him 4th in usage on the entire team :rolleyes :lmao:lmao:lmao

I know right? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

954817606892032006

:lmao

:lol Lonzo stans deflecting from ^ this ^