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midnightpulp
03-14-2018, 12:15 AM
Lakers looking decent for once. I'm okay with it as they're on track to finally win me 100.00 in my yearly bet with Splits. All the bastards need to do is go 5-10 from here on out. They'll probably fuck up.

Killakobe81
03-14-2018, 05:38 AM
Lakers looking decent for once. I'm okay with it as they're on track to finally win me 100.00 in my yearly bet with Splits. All the bastards need to do is go 5-10 from here on out. They'll probably fuck up.

schedule gets tough they need to beat miami next game cuz ...tonight is probably a blowout loss nba is dumb to schedule lakers vs Dubs in a 2nd of back2back on ESPN...ahh well.

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 05:48 AM
Lakers looking decent for once. I'm okay with it as they're on track to finally win me 100.00 in my yearly bet with Splits. All the bastards need to do is go 5-10 from here on out. They'll probably fuck up.

Welcome back mid. Its been a while. :toast

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 05:53 AM
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I legit was getting mad at Zo for jacking up 3s when he clearly wasn't making em. That being said, he still played D, rebounded and passed well. As Luke noted, he was still a game high +18 which is amazing considering Ju and Kuz had 26/13 and IT had 23.

This is why I'm patient with this kid. His shot will never be like Chef and I'm good with that. He just needs to be respectable. That will come with time and experience. For you bloody farmers who hate on him, this is chess, not checkers.

lebomb
03-14-2018, 06:53 AM
That +/- thing is so stupid. Basically it just says your team was +18pts better with you on the floor. Hell, Lonzo could just stand there and do nothing and get a + something if his other team mates are making shots. I never thought the +/- thing was worth a damn. Lebron said he doesnt give a shit about +/-. He cares about the win.

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 08:01 AM
That +/- thing is so stupid. Basically it just says your team was +18pts better with you on the floor. Hell, Lonzo could just stand there and do nothing and get a + something if his other team mates are making shots. I never thought the +/- thing was worth a damn. Lebron said he doesnt give a shit about +/-. He cares about the win.

You think he cares about 5 Finals losses? :lol

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 08:02 AM
So silly and awesome at same time ...

:lmao

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 08:05 AM
That +/- thing is so stupid. Basically it just says your team was +18pts better with you on the floor. Hell, Lonzo could just stand there and do nothing and get a + something if his other team mates are making shots. I never thought the +/- thing was worth a damn. Lebron said he doesnt give a shit about +/-. He cares about the win.

He shot bad (what's new :lol). Yet and still, explain this:

973858271311282176

Maybe the Lakers are better than their record indicates? ;)

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 08:18 AM
You think he cares about 5 Finals losses? :lol
I think he cares about carrying his teams to seven consecutive Finals, something that otherwise hasn't been done since Russell's Celtics. Will Lonzo Bust even make one Finals in his career? :downspin:

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 08:20 AM
He shot bad (what's new :lol). Yet and still, explain this:

973858271311282176

Maybe the Lakers are better than their record indicates? ;)
If Lonzo can't ring with this...

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 08:59 AM
I think he cares about carrying his teams to seven consecutive Finals, something that otherwise hasn't been done since Russell's Celtics. Will Lonzo Bust even make one Finals in his career? :downspin:

7 consecutive Finals...in the East. Like I said, if he played in the West his whole career, he likely makes 1 or 2 at best. Lakers, Spurs, Suns, or the Queens would stomp mud holes in his ass! They'd take turns running a train on his sphincter. Choooo-choooooo! :lmao

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 09:01 AM
If Lonzo can't ring with this...

:lol

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 09:06 AM
7 consecutive Finals...in the East. Like I said, if he played in the West his whole career, he likely makes 1 or 2 at best. Lakers, Spurs, Suns, or the Queens would stomp mud holes in his ass! They'd take turns running a train on his sphincter. Choooo-choooooo! :lmao
You disn't answer the question, Erubiel. Will Lonzo even make one Finals in his career?

lebomb
03-14-2018, 09:38 AM
This Lonzo Ball hype just kills me. Its like I was the 2nd pick in the NFL draft as a QB, yet I cannot throw for shit. I can run, block and even defend well on option plays. I wonder if I would make it in the league?

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 10:13 AM
You disn't answer the question, Erubiel. Will Lonzo even make one Finals in his career?

:lol

With his current teammates, no ;)

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 10:14 AM
This Lonzo Ball hype just kills me. Its like I was the 2nd pick in the NFL draft as a QB, yet I cannot throw for shit. I can run, block and even defend well on option plays. I wonder if I would make it in the league?

Why would any team want their QB to block? - 15 points for bad analogies :lol

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 10:15 AM
You disn't answer the question, Erubiel. Will Lonzo even make one Finals in his career?

Question: which team gets to a Finals 1st: Clipps, Spurs or the Lakers? :downspin:

lebomb
03-14-2018, 10:45 AM
Question: which team gets to a Finals 1st: Clipps, Spurs or the Lakers? :downspin:

Depends on who gets Lebron.

Also on my analogy, it is relevant because Lakerfan counts Lonzos rebounds as something. Who needs a PG to rebound? :lmao

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 11:53 AM
:lol

With his current teammates, no ;)
So Lonzo Bust can't make his teammates better?

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 11:53 AM
Question: which team gets to a Finals 1st: Clipps, Spurs or the Lakers? :downspin:
Depends on what kind of magic Jerry West can pull off.

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 01:23 PM
Depends on who gets Lebron.

Also on my analogy, it is relevant because Lakerfan counts Lonzos rebounds as something. Who needs a PG to rebound? :lmao

We are a top 3 team in pace. When Lonzo rebounds, it helps us get out and run right away. This leads to a ton of fastbreaks and us being no worst than top 2 in paint points.

His ability to rebound is significant, actually.

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 01:24 PM
So Lonzo Bust can't make his teammates better?

:lol

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 01:27 PM
Depends on what kind of magic Jerry West can pull off.

He stealing money from Billionnaire Balmer. Having the Logo as a consultant ain't shit due to this new CBA. BB is just as limited with spending as the Lakers are.

If given the choice, you think LBJ or PG13 chooses the Clipps over the Lakers this Summer?

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 02:24 PM
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LkrFan
03-14-2018, 02:42 PM
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Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 03:09 PM
He stealing money from Billionnaire Balmer. Having the Logo as a consultant ain't shit due to this new CBA. BB is just as limited with spending as the Lakers are.

If given the choice, you think LBJ or PG13 chooses the Clipps over the Lakers this Summer?
:lol So having the guy who built the current Warriors as well as two different Lakers dynasties means nothing, but having Magic's dumb ass (who certainly doesn't know jack shit about the CBA) running the show is a big deal? This is some shameful :downspin:, Julio Luis.

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 04:03 PM
:lol So having the guy who built the current Warriors as well as two different Lakers dynasties means nothing, but having Magic's dumb ass (who certainly doesn't know jack shit about the CBA) running the show is a big deal? This is some shameful :downspin:, Julio Luis .

:lol

The new CBA neutered the Lakers, thus rendering Logo null and void. That's why we let his protege Mitch Kupcake go too. Otherwise, losing Logo is a death blow to the Lakers. The new CBA made us build thru the draft (lotto 4 years in a row). Now we actually have young talent and cap space to build around them...like the Dubs did.

Logo joined the Dubs last year. The only thing he prolly solidified was KD signing (maybe - because Donkey been recruiting him all year). Logo idn't draft Steph, Klay or Donkey.

Rob Pelinka is a former agent. You think he doesn't know how the new CBA works? Remember, he's the one who got Kobe $48M.

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 04:07 PM
Logo did not join the Dubs last year. He joined after Cohan sold the team to Lacob. Trading for Bogut, drafting Klay, refusing to trade Klay for Love - those were all Jerry West moves.

The Suns also hired a former agent as their GM once... how'd that work out for them?

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 05:04 PM
Edit: found it:

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Damn, didn't remember we fucked up 7 years ago. Was it really that long ago? Damn you Phil Jackson! :lmao

LkrFan
03-14-2018, 05:06 PM
Logo did not join the Dubs last year. He joined after Cohan sold the team to Lacob. Trading for Bogut, drafting Klay, refusing to trade Klay for Love - those were all Jerry West moves.

The Suns also hired a former agent as their GM once... how'd that work out for them?

Uncle! :lol

Mikeanaro
03-14-2018, 05:12 PM
Longo plays great vs the Warrens, I hope they beat those girls tonight.

140
03-14-2018, 05:30 PM
This Lonzo Ball hype just kills me. Its like I was the 2nd pick in the NFL draft as a QB, yet I cannot throw for shit. I can run, block and even defend well on option plays. I wonder if I would make it in the league?
:cry b-b-but Tatum is inconsistent too!!:cry
:cry b-b-but DSJ is inconsistent too!!:cry
:cry b-b-but Mitchell is inconsistent too!!:cry

Yeah no shit sherlock, they're rookies after all. What lakerfan dont seem to get is that the difference is all of those dudes combined dont get nearly the hype this bust undeservedly gets tbh. But then again its lakerfan we are talking about here so its not like I was expecting them to :lol

lebomb
03-14-2018, 05:36 PM
Here and on Lakersground (except for a few), they act like he is the second coming. They take small stat lines like 3 steals and 8 rebounds and swear this niggas James Harden. He cant shoot, nor hit free throws. How in tha hell is that gonna work as a PG. Especially in todays NBA.

DLO got crucified, and personally I dont think Lonzo is any better at all. Hell, at least DLO can shoot for goodness sake.

Clipper Nation
03-14-2018, 06:08 PM
:cry b-b-but Tatum is inconsistent too!!:cry
:cry b-b-but DSJ is inconsistent too!!:cry
:cry b-b-but Mitchell is inconsistent too!!:cry

Yeah no shit sherlock, they're rookies after all. What lakerfan dont seem to get is that the difference is all of those dudes combined dont get nearly the hype this bust undeservedly gets tbh. But then again its lakerfan we are talking about here so its not like I was expecting them to :lol
The other difference is that Tatum, DSJ and Mitchell are all good, unlike Lonzo Bust.

DMC
03-14-2018, 11:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Rdwrk2f.png


:lmao

whitemamba
03-15-2018, 12:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Rdwrk2f.png


:lmao

non issue, tired legs from last nights game, tell me DMC, can you be tired if your obese? Do you feel that sensation?

DMC
03-15-2018, 12:06 AM
non issue, tired legs from last nights game, tell me DMC, can you be tired if your obese? Do you feel that sensation?

Aks your mammy

midnightpulp
03-15-2018, 12:16 AM
non issue, tired legs from last nights game, tell me DMC, can you be tired if your obese? Do you feel that sensation?

"Tiredness" from back-to-backs is massively overstated, and the stats show that performance doesn't drop off on the second night. Lakers have been looking good and should've beaten a GS missing 3 of their best players. Longo couldn't outplay Q. Cook (who?).

midnightpulp
03-15-2018, 12:29 AM
Last 5 games:

9.8 PPG on .308 shooting.

To throw Longo a bone (which I'm sure he'd bury), he has looked good defensively. Will Longo be a bust per his hype? Yes. Could Longo be a fine role player in the right system? Sure. Good length, good passer, good defensively. Think Jason Kidd on the 2011 Mavs. Franchise changer he is not. Neither is Julian, whom Lakers fans are having a semen tsunami over. He's definitely exceeded my expectations, but he's a one dimensional score-first player in the vein of Amare. I don't see Julian ever having a superstar impact per the stats that really matter (advanced ones. I have my issues with RPM, but it's the still the best, and his number sits at a relatively low 1.35). If I'm a Lakers fan, I bank on Ingram to become the "guy." But even if he does, they're still going to need a volume shooting PG who can hit the 3.

lebomb
03-15-2018, 06:59 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Rdwrk2f.png


:lmao



OMG Lonzo, that is horrible. Steph wasnt even playing. :lmao:lmao

Clipper Nation
03-15-2018, 08:04 AM
non issue, tired legs from last nights game, tell me DMC, can you be tired if your obese? Do you feel that sensation?
:lol Tired legs? You do realize he was also garbage the night before, right?

Fabbs
03-15-2018, 08:37 AM
Depends on what kind of scam Jerry West can pull off.
fify

LkrFan
03-15-2018, 12:06 PM
Last 5 games:

9.8 PPG on .308 shooting.

To throw Longo a bone (which I'm sure he'd bury), he has looked good defensively. Will Longo be a bust per his hype? Yes. Could Longo be a fine role player in the right system? Sure. Good length, good passer, good defensively. Think Jason Kidd on the 2011 Mavs. Franchise changer he is not. Neither is Julian, whom Lakers fans are having a semen tsunami over. He's definitely exceeded my expectations, but he's a one dimensional score-first player in the vein of Amare. I don't see Julian ever having a superstar impact per the stats that really matter (advanced ones. I have my issues with RPM, but it's the still the best, and his number sits at a relatively low 1.35). If I'm a Lakers fan, I bank on Ingram to become the "guy." But even if he does, they're still going to need a volume shooting PG who can hit the 3.

Fair take. I've been a fan of Ingram since I was stationed in NC while Ingram was at Duke. He needs to gain about 20lbs and a be a more consistent 3pt shooter to take the next step. He has a standing reach of 9'2" which helps him defensively. He's finishing better at the rim with contact and I like his budding midrange game. Once he grows into his body he's gonna be a problem.

daslicer
03-15-2018, 12:10 PM
Fair take. I've been a fan of Ingram since I was stationed in NC while Ingram was at Duke. He needs to gain about 20lbs and a be a more consistent 3pt shooter to take the next step. He has a standing reach of 9'2" which helps him defensively. He's finishing better at the rim with contact and I like his budding midrange game. Once he grows into his body he's gonna be a problem.

Where in NC were you stationed?

LkrFan
03-15-2018, 12:15 PM
Where in NC were you stationed?

Camp Lejeune. It sucked Donkey Balls! :lol

daslicer
03-15-2018, 12:22 PM
Camp Lejeune. It sucked Donkey Balls! :lol

I live in NC so I have great feel for the state. I have been to Jacksonville NC a few times and yes that area sucks.

LkrFan
03-15-2018, 12:26 PM
I live in NC so I have great feel for the state. I have been to Jacksonville NC a few times and yes that area sucks.

The people of Jacksonville are great. Southern hospitality everywhere you look. I just hated the Marine base and the Naval Hospital I worked at.

Killakobe81
03-15-2018, 12:36 PM
"Tiredness" from back-to-backs is massively overstated, and the stats show that performance doesn't drop off on the second night. Lakers have been looking good and should've beaten a GS missing 3 of their best players. Longo couldn't outplay Q. Cook (who?).

bullshit numbers show a 3rd game in 4 nights on the road is almost certainly a loss, especially to teams that have a significant HCA like the warriors. Are yiu not familliar with the term scheduled loss? Lakers played Sunday/Tuesday/Wednesday with Wednesday on the road without Ingram, Hart and Kuzma thats 3 of their 5 best players including their two best scorers on the year ...

midnightpulp
03-15-2018, 01:18 PM
bullshit numbers show a 3rd game in 4 nights on the road is almost certainly a loss, especially to teams that have a significant HCA like the warriors. Are yiu not familliar with the term scheduled loss? Lakers played Sunday/Tuesday/Wednesday with Wednesday on the road without Ingram, Hart and Kuzma thats 3 of their 5 best players including their two best scorers on the year ...

Your correct on that front. Was this 3rd in 4 for the Lakers (I'm unsure)? But it's already been definitively proven that on the 2nd night, performance doesn't drop off. Also, what kills players in the 3rd night situation is not fatigue from on-court play, but travel.

Killakobe81
03-15-2018, 01:45 PM
Your correct on that front. Was this 3rd in 4 for the Lakers (I'm unsure)? But it's already been definitively proven that on the 2nd night, performance doesn't drop off. Also, what kills players in the 3rd night situation is not fatigue from on-court play, but travel.

yeah travel is tough but tbh a flight from cali to oak is not soo bad. problem was Randle played 39 and Lonzo 41 mins more than just it being a back to back. POP rests his guys in those situations and has been for the past 4-5 years ...

whitemamba
03-15-2018, 03:04 PM
Aks your mammy

nom nom nom

DMC
03-15-2018, 03:35 PM
OMG Lonzo, that is horrible. Steph wasnt even playing. :lmao:lmao

If he hit two more FTs ESPN would be blowing him over a double double.

Killakobe81
03-18-2018, 08:30 AM
Your correct on that front. Was this 3rd in 4 for the Lakers (I'm unsure)? But it's already been definitively proven that on the 2nd night, performance doesn't drop off. Also, what kills players in the 3rd night situation is not fatigue from on-court play, but travel.

As if the Warriors needed any more of an edge in this game -- on national television (ESPN), no less. Poor Lakers. You'll be playing your fifth game in eight days, your third game in four days and the second of a back-to-back set here. So after hosting the Nuggets on March 13, you'll head up to the Bay immediately after and face the defending champions the next night. The Warriors will enter this game with a two-day rest advantage, not that they'll need it.

Update : Lakers lose 106-117
extracted from an espn article that uses a formula to determine schedule lossess they have been correct over 72% this season and 68% the past 10 or so ...

lebomb
03-19-2018, 08:42 PM
Now I’m starting to feel bad for Lonzo. He is stinking it up something fierce. 37 minutes tonight and four points.

LkrFan
03-22-2018, 09:19 PM
This fucker shot 12 3s. Made 1. Fuck!!!

Clipper Nation
03-22-2018, 09:22 PM
This fucker shot 12 3s. Made 1. Fuck!!!

:lol Bust

AlexJones
03-22-2018, 09:23 PM
Pels 8-1 in games decided by 5 or less the past month. Totally sustainable

Bynumite
03-22-2018, 09:25 PM
Good passer, rebounder, defender but complete trash at the most important part of the game. SMH

HarlemHeat37
03-22-2018, 09:26 PM
Can't be Jason Kidd and succeed today, tbh..

midnightpulp
03-22-2018, 09:42 PM
:lmao Down syndrome drake is gonna lose me a benjamin. He's been massively shit over the lakers losing streak. 1-12 and gets annihilated by one of the worst offensive pgs in history. And :lol caring about boards and rebounds from the pg in today's nba.

Arcadian
03-22-2018, 09:44 PM
God dammit Lonzo. You just had to shoot your usual 2-15 when a win would've helped the Spurs. But you'll make 10 threes against the Spurs. Fuck you.

midnightpulp
03-22-2018, 09:44 PM
Luke just needs to have lonzo be a blue collar player. Play hard d, do some playmaking, and only take high percentage shots. Those 12 three point attempts should've went to other players who can actually shoot.

UZER
03-22-2018, 09:51 PM
LBJ cheated, yet Zo still mopped the floor with his hummingbird ass:

973236039501467653

:lol

Fucking embarrassing. Why doesn’t the NBA just go to judges like ice skating already.

HarlemHeat37
03-22-2018, 09:52 PM
It's crazy that the Lakers have been bad for so long yet don't have much to show for it, tbh:lol

BD24
03-22-2018, 10:04 PM
why is this nigga shooting 12 threes :lol

AlexJones
03-22-2018, 10:24 PM
why is this nigga shooting 12 threes :lol
Why is Derrick Leonard not playing tbh

Killakobe81
03-22-2018, 10:27 PM
why is this nigga shooting 12 threes :lol
Zo's bricks and It's 7 turnovers cost us that game ...

BD24
03-22-2018, 10:30 PM
Zo's bricks and It's 7 turnovers cost us that game ...
I told you he could never be a consistent shooter with that broken ass shot. Was a damn shame that he kept shooting considering the rest of the SL, even booty ass Brookie Lopez, were playing well.

RsxPiimp
03-22-2018, 10:54 PM
damn this nigga is horrible. dont know if can he recover from this season. this is an ed o bannon type of rookie year:lol

Mikeanaro
03-22-2018, 11:04 PM
That was low.

lebomb
03-23-2018, 06:55 AM
The best explanation on why Lonzo cannot shoot in the NBA. He actually may end up a BUST. :claw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT86sfzm5-0

pookenstein
03-23-2018, 07:12 AM
The best explanation on why Lonzo cannot shoot in the NBA. He actually may end up a BUST. :claw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT86sfzm5-0

Great Analysis by Arenas.

Also,I was pleasantly surprised he didn't pull a gun and shot the two dudes in the head at the end of the Video.

pookenstein
03-23-2018, 07:13 AM
But you'll make 10 threes against the Spurs. Fuck you.

That's what tends to happen when Patty Mills "guards" someone.

Jodelo
03-23-2018, 07:35 AM
The Pelicans didn't even try to contest the shots at the end of the game :lol That was comical :lmao

140
03-23-2018, 08:12 AM
This fucker shot 12 3s. Made 1. Fuck!!!
You know its bad when even Hector Raúl has turned on him tbh :lol

Killakobe81
03-23-2018, 08:29 AM
The best explanation on why Lonzo cannot shoot in the NBA. He actually may end up a BUST. :claw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT86sfzm5-0

agree shot is broken ...disagree on bust label ...but we will see ...

lebomb
03-23-2018, 08:54 AM
agree shot is broken ...disagree on bust label ...but we will see ...

If he doesnt fix his shooting, his offensive game will be limited as Gilbert said. In that case a limited offensive shooter as the #2 overall draft pick would be considered as close to a bust as you can get. :claw

LkrFan
03-23-2018, 02:34 PM
You know its bad when even Hector Raúl has turned on him tbh :lol

:lol

I've criticised Kobe too. I'm not a total homer :lol

We had that game. We were up 11 after 3 quarters. Pels were on the tail end of a rare B2B2B and still beat us. We should have run them out of the gym. Unforced turnovers. Missed freebies. Enough bricks for Trump's wall. You name the fuck up, our young ass team did it. SMH :lol

I usually don't show my frustration on here, but that loss had me pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity. :lol

BD24
03-23-2018, 08:09 PM
:lol

I've criticised Kobe too. I'm not a total homer :lol

We had that game. We were up 11 after 3 quarters. Pels were on the tail end of a rare B2B2B and still beat us. We should have run them out of the gym. Unforced turnovers. Missed freebies. Enough bricks for Trump's wall. You name the fuck up, our young ass team did it. SMH :lol

I usually don't show my frustration on here, but that loss had me pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity. :lol
:lol your pretty funny for a "bad hombre" Alfredo. Maybe I will petition Trump to keep you around after all.

LkrFan
03-23-2018, 09:22 PM
:lol your pretty funny for a "bad hombre" Alfredo. Maybe I will petition Trump to keep you around after all.

:lmao

LkrFan
03-23-2018, 09:42 PM
KCP been ballin so:

977348839572045825

:lol

Raven
03-24-2018, 05:14 AM
The Pelicans didn't even try to contest the shots at the end of the game :lol That was comical :lmao

it was different, their contest, was to not contest :lol, and in end of the game situations :lol

Raven
03-24-2018, 05:56 AM
they were much better with josh hart as the pg

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 08:59 AM
they were much better with josh hart as the pg

6'9" Brandon Ingram facilitated our offense when Zo was out. Do you even think before you post? SMH

Raven
03-24-2018, 09:22 AM
6'9" Brandon Ingram facilitated our offense when Zo was out. Do you even think before you post? SMH

you seem triggered, but i was just stating a fact. your point doesn't deny my fact.

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 09:54 AM
you seem triggered, but i was just stating a fact. your point doesn't deny my fact.

Dude, you can't be serious. You telling me Josh Hart ran the Laker Show offense when Zo was out? That's your worst take EVER. Damn s:loln.

Raven
03-24-2018, 10:00 AM
Dude, you can't be serious. You telling me Josh Hart ran the Laker Show offense when Zo was out? That's your worst take EVER. Damn s:loln.

i didn't say that, i'm just saying that they were better with hart as the pg. And it's hard to argue.

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 10:05 AM
i didn't say that, i'm just saying that they were better with hart as the pg. And it's hard to argue.

Two separate arguments numbnuts. Yes, they were better starting Hart. But it was Brandon running our offense during that stretch. Not Hart and his 1.2apg, as your dumbass post claims.

Hart never was, is not, and never will be confused as being a PG. -25 points for posting this bullshit son. :lol

ambchang
03-24-2018, 10:09 AM
Two separate arguments numbnuts. Yes, they were better starting Hart. But it was Brandon running our offense during that stretch. Not Hart and his 1.2apg, as your dumbass post claims.

Hart never was, is not, and never will be confused as being a PG. -25 points for posting this bullshit son. :lol

Buddy. You didnt read the argument correctly. Give it up.

Raven
03-24-2018, 10:10 AM
Two separate arguments numbnuts. Yes, they were better starting Hart. But it was Brandon running our offense during that stretch. Not Hart and his 1.2apg, as your dumbass post claims.

Hart never was, is not, and never will be confused as being a PG. -25 points for posting this bullshit son. :lol

...which you just agreed on ... :lol

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 10:38 AM
...which you just agreed on ... :lol

You're not too bright are you?

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 10:39 AM
Buddy. You didnt read the argument correctly. Give it up.

Oh no, you to? FML :lmao

ambchang
03-24-2018, 01:01 PM
they were much better with josh hart as the pg


Two separate arguments numbnuts. Yes, they were better starting Hart. But it was Brandon running our offense during that stretch. Not Hart and his 1.2apg, as your dumbass post claims.

Hart never was, is not, and never will be confused as being a PG. -25 points for posting this bullshit son. :lol
Would be nice for you to actually read the posts.

Oh no, you to? FML :lmao

No idea what you are talking about here.

Splits
03-24-2018, 03:55 PM
why is this nig attempting 6 3s a game at 30%?

lol

ambchang
03-24-2018, 04:21 PM
why is this nig attempting 6 3s a game at 30%?

lol

Because of his amazing basketball smarts and court vision. Also because he could rebound.

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 04:31 PM
Would be nice for you to actually read the posts.


No idea what you are talking about here.

For the millionth time, Josh Hart is not a PG. Comprende? SMH

LkrFan
03-24-2018, 04:32 PM
why is this nig attempting 6 3s a game at 30%?

lol

That's my issue with him tbh.

Expert
03-24-2018, 04:50 PM
http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/lg/public/2017/05/01/wall.jpg

ambchang
03-24-2018, 09:39 PM
For the millionth time, Josh Hart is not a PG. Comprende? SMH

Hart started in place of longo. While his role wasnt, he replaced the strain gpg and the lakers got better. Comprehend?

Raven
03-25-2018, 06:19 AM
Watched the game yesterday, good god him and kuzma are truly atrocious defenders. They regularly anticipate before the attacker has even moved. Hard to find bigger cheaters.. The amount of attempted layups allowed, as a result is staggering.

Robz4000
03-25-2018, 06:30 AM
Regardless, this fucker plays like Curry when he sees the Spurs; just like Rubio, Rondo, and every other awful offensive PG in the league.

LkrFan
03-25-2018, 08:01 AM
Hart started in place of longo. While his role wasnt, he replaced the strain gpg and the lakers got better. Comprehend?

Ever heard of "position less" basketball? The Dubs employ it. That's a major reason why Dr. Dray and Iggy are just as good as Chef at playmaking for the Dubs. Luke, part of Kerr's staff, brought that concept to LA.

All that being said, Hart is a tough nosed defender, who's 3ball is coming around, who also rebounds well for a combo guard. He provided a jolt to our team as a starter. However, he did not facilitate the offense. That fell on Brandon.

Unlike years past, I've seen a ton of Laker games this year. Your post claiming Hart "replaced" Zo is either misinterpreted by you and a few other farmers, or you're trolling. Your post history suggests the latter. Do better son.

dfens
03-25-2018, 08:13 AM
Watched the game yesterday, good god him and kuzma are truly atrocious defenders. They regularly anticipate before the attacker has even moved. Hard to find bigger cheaters.. The amount of attempted layups allowed, as a result is staggering.

gameplan to maximize deflections -> maximize transition play -> run ... pretty logical IF you follow the sport tbh.

Raven
03-25-2018, 08:29 AM
gameplan to maximize deflections -> maximize transition play -> run ... pretty logical IF you follow the sport tbh.

yes it's also called atrocious defense and statpadding.

ambchang
03-25-2018, 10:27 AM
Ever heard of "position less" basketball? The Dubs employ it. That's a major reason why Dr. Dray and Iggy are just as good as Chef at playmaking for the Dubs. Luke, part of Kerr's staff, brought that concept to LA.

All that being said, Hart is a tough nosed defender, who's 3ball is coming around, who also rebounds well for a combo guard. He provided a jolt to our team as a starter. However, he did not facilitate the offense. That fell on Brandon.

Unlike years past, I've seen a ton of Laker games this year. Your post claiming Hart "replaced" Zo is either misinterpreted by you and a few other farmers, or you're trolling. Your post history suggests the latter. Do better son.

Yup. So the lakers ar better with hart in place of your number 2 pick. Rendering your point about PG pointless.

LkrFan
03-26-2018, 08:44 PM
Nice bounce back game from our rookie PG:

15 points
7-8 FGs (1-1 from 3)
11 assists / 2 TOs (great ratio)
8 rebs
2 more steals

He gotta hit that weight room this summer. Like Ingram last year, he's too light in the ass. Blake was tryna punk him (which was pissing me off).

I thought he controlled the game in stretches. Gotta learn how to finish teams off. He'll learn.

Killakobe81
03-26-2018, 09:04 PM
Nice bounce back game from our rookie PG:

15 points
7-8 FGs (1-1 from 3)
11 assists / 2 TOs (great ratio)
8 rebs
2 more steals

He gotta hit that weight room this summer. Like Ingram last year, he's too light in the ass. Blake was tryna punk him (which was pissing me off).

I thought he controlled the game in stretches. Gotta learn how to finish teams off. He'll learn.

not tripping on Zo a great draft class ...(even without Simmons)
i think tatum, mitchell, kuzma, markanen, dsjr, fox and Ball will be good pros with high potential upside.

Clipper Nation
03-26-2018, 10:17 PM
i think tatum, mitchell, kuzma, markanen, dsjr, fox and Ball will be good pros with high potential upside.
:lmao

Clipper Nation
03-26-2018, 10:18 PM
Nice bounce back game from our rookie PG:

15 points
7-8 FGs (1-1 from 3)
11 assists / 2 TOs (great ratio)
8 rebs
2 more steals

He gotta hit that weight room this summer. Like Ingram last year, he's too light in the ass. Blake was tryna punk him (which was pissing me off).

I thought he controlled the game in stretches. Gotta learn how to finish teams off. He'll learn.
Nice L, eliminating the Lakers from the playoffs once again. :downspin:

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 03:23 AM
Nice L, eliminating the Lakers from the playoffs once again. :downspin:

Clipps not that much better. Y'allwill be shining shoes too soon enough. :)

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 03:25 AM
Good summary tweet thread on Zo:

978455522587193345

I think it's spot on. :tu

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 03:40 AM
When Zo develops a midrange game, at 6'7" he'll get this shot anytime he wants:

978477140705345536

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 03:45 AM
978425012817465345

Nice young 2-way player in the making.

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 12:03 PM
PSA tweet thread for you farmers:

978666833602428929

Clipper Nation
03-27-2018, 01:14 PM
978477140705345536

TS%: Lonzo .443, Kidd .471
OWS: Lonzo -0.6, Kidd +1.1
OBPM: Lonzo -1.0, Kidd +0.8

Rookie Kidd scored more, more efficiently, than Lonzo Bust. He also wasn't a net-negative player on offense like Lonzo Bust. I don't see the similarities either, tbh.

Raven
03-27-2018, 02:42 PM
When Zo develops a midrange game, at 6'7" he'll get this shot anytime he wants:

978477140705345536

why, is he faster than other 6-5 guys? Does he have great finishing skills? Is he good at posting up?

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 02:50 PM
why, is he faster than other 6-5 guys? Does he have great finishing skills? Is he good at posting up?

He is fast, but he is a poor finisher. I've seen many times where he could have taken his man to the hole, yet he passed it out to an open 3pt shooter (who missed :lol).

He has no post game. That'll need to be developed after he bulks up and gets stronger.

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 02:52 PM
TS%: Lonzo .443, Kidd .471
OWS: Lonzo -0.6, Kidd +1.1
OBPM: Lonzo -1.0, Kidd +0.8

Rookie Kidd scored more, more efficiently, than Lonzo Bust. He also wasn't a net-negative player on offense like Lonzo Bust. I don't see the similarities either, tbh.

Kidd was also a year older with 2 years at Cal under his belt. Yet his rookie numbers are eerily similar to a 1 and done Lonzo, who's probably 60% the player he will become.

Clipper Nation
03-27-2018, 03:00 PM
Kidd was also a year older with 2 years at Cal under his belt. Yet his rookie numbers are eerily similar to a 1 and done Lonzo, who's probably 60% the player he will become.

:lol "Eerily similar" - if you ignore Kidd's superior efficiency/impact stats and how much Lonzo Bust shamelessly pads his counting stats.

Raven
03-27-2018, 03:31 PM
:lol "Eerily similar" - if you ignore Kidd's superior efficiency/impact stats and how much Lonzo Bust shamelessly pads his counting stats.

people also ignoring the brutal difference in ft shooting and the fact that there is no evidence to suggest Ball will be the type that trains a lot. I mean he already has a kid coming in and isn't yet mature enough to be called a teen ager..

Raven
03-27-2018, 03:33 PM
He is fast, but he is a poor finisher. I've seen many times where he could have taken his man to the hole, yet he passed it out to an open 3pt shooter (who missed :lol).

He has no post game. That'll need to be developed after he bulks up and gets stronger.

so how would does the size help him, if the opposing team can just place a bigger player on him..

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 05:24 PM
:lol "Eerily similar" - if you ignore Kidd's superior efficiency/impact stats and how much Lonzo Bust shamelessly pads his counting stats.

You act like rookie J Kidd (a year older as a rookie, 1 more year of college) stats blew Lonzo's away. :lol I didn't say he was better than the co-ROY. To dismiss how similar they are and ignoring Lonzo's impact (leads all rookies in assists and steals, leads all PGs in blocks, 3rd best rebounding guard behind Simmons and Chuckbrook, and is a solid defender) is trolling. It's cool because you've trolled a 1st ballot HOFer too. So I guess Lonzo is in good company. :lol

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 05:27 PM
so how would does the size help him, if the opposing team can just place a bigger player on him..

Valid question (for now). He's not nearly a finished product though.

Clipper Nation
03-27-2018, 05:54 PM
You act like rookie J Kidd (a year older as a rookie, 1 more year of college) stats blew Lonzo's away. :lol I didn't say he was better than the co-ROY. To dismiss how similar they are and ignoring Lonzo's impact (leads all rookies in assists and steals, leads all PGs in blocks, 3rd best rebounding guard behind Simmons and Chuckbrook, and is a solid defender) is trolling. It's cool because you've trolled a 1st ballot HOFer too. So I guess Lonzo is in good company. :lol
:lol We've gone from "you must be blind if you don't think Lonzo = Kidd" to "Kidd's stats don't blow Lonzo's away by that much..."

Maybe if you keep moving the goalposts enough, people will forget that you were hoping the Lakers could draft Fultz instead of Lonzo. :downspin:

Clipper Nation
03-27-2018, 06:00 PM
Valid question (for now). He's not nearly a finished product though.

Lonzo? Hope not. Give me Fultz tbh
:wow

Silver&Black
03-27-2018, 06:15 PM
--e

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 06:34 PM
:lol We've gone from "you must be blind if you don't think Lonzo = Kidd" to "Kidd's stats don't blow Lonzo's away by that much..."

Maybe if you keep moving the goalposts enough, people will forget that you were hoping the Lakers could draft Fultz instead of Lonzo. :downspin:

:lol

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 06:35 PM
:wow

N:lmaope

LkrFan
03-27-2018, 08:27 PM
978782361532874753

GP knows what's up. :tu

Clipper Nation
03-27-2018, 09:08 PM
978782361532874753

GP knows what's up. :tu

I'm hoping we trade The Pick! in a package for a star...unless it's Fultz. No to Lonzo! :lol
:wow

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 05:35 AM
:wow

Damn. :lmao

In my defense, LaVar was the major reason why I didn't want Lonzo and preferred Fultz. Now after seeing Lonzo for 51 games, I'm all in son. :lol

lebomb
03-28-2018, 07:04 AM
Lonzo had a pretty good game, even if it was a loss. That being said, a few shit games are coming now. He is typically 1 or 2 good games, then a slew of stamped dogshit games.

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 11:57 AM
Lonzo had a pretty good game, even if it was a loss. That being said, a few shit games are coming now. He is typically 1 or 2 good games, then a slew of stamped dogshit games.

To be expected. He's a rookie.

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 11:57 AM
978781389985275904

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 12:03 PM
Like I said, gonna be a good 2-way player. The Glove showing our rook some love, even when you farmers won't. :tu

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 12:24 PM
976846803445473287

Raven
03-28-2018, 02:48 PM
976846803445473287

aka terrible D

lebomb
03-28-2018, 04:42 PM
Can Longo follow up with a good game tonight against the Mavs? We shall see.

Clipper Nation
03-28-2018, 05:27 PM
976846803445473287
:lol Literal statpadding

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 06:12 PM
:lol Literal statpadding

978809704750243840

:downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

LkrFan
03-28-2018, 07:38 PM
979129879764578304

True dat.

lebomb
03-29-2018, 11:13 AM
Damn, dis nigga is gonna be injury prone. He is already OUT again! Cant shoot or stay healthy. :depressed

Clipper Nation
03-29-2018, 11:24 AM
Damn, dis nigga is gonna be injury prone. He is already OUT again! Cant shoot or stay healthy. :depressed

:lol Fox is coming up on their schedule, so of course Lonzo is "injured" again.

LkrFan
03-29-2018, 11:57 AM
:lol Fox is coming up on their schedule, so of course Lonzo is "injured" again.

:lol

LkrFan
04-13-2018, 05:40 AM
984657228090064897

lebomb
04-13-2018, 07:05 AM
984657228090064897

There is a HUGE difference. All of those guys have a decent shot, Lonzos shot is busted. Their FG% went up because of that. I doubt Lonzos FG% will improve.

Clipper Nation
04-13-2018, 10:26 AM
984657228090064897
:lol at using a stat that ignores Lonzo's atrocious free throw shooting.

Rookie TS%:
Wall: .494
Westbrook: .489
Rondo: .472
Kidd: .471
Kemba: .464
Lonzo: .444 :lmao

#YaHellBeFine :lmao

Clipper Nation
04-13-2018, 10:35 AM
Lonzo's TS% this year is the 16th-worst of any rookie who's played at least 30 minutes per game in NBA history:

http://bkref.com/tiny/5mnNa

Clipper Nation
04-14-2018, 09:20 PM
985341441420513280

:lol Meanwhile, Lonzo Bust can't even make the playoffs.

LkrFan
04-17-2018, 11:34 AM
985341441420513280

:lol Meanwhile, Lonzo Bust can't even make the playoffs.

The Clipps are watching the playoffs at his crib wearing BBB gear :lol

LkrFan
04-17-2018, 11:35 AM
986255444262948865

Thebesteva
04-17-2018, 11:51 AM
986255444262948865

Kinda depressing to know if he only could make shots he'd be a legit star. But then again Tim Tebow was nearly the entire package minus the part he couldn't make a fucking pass to save his life (Except that time against the Steelers in OT)

LkrFan
04-18-2018, 04:48 AM
I shake my head at a lot of you farmers clowning Zo because of his shot. Anybody watch Rondo take a wet shit on Dame - two games in a row? Rondo "can't shoot" but Dame can, and he's the all star. Yet the favored Guests are down 2-0.

Like Rondo, Zo plays defense. I'd argue Zo's defense as a rookie is better than Rondo's when he was a rookie. It will improve once he gets stronger (he's rail thin right now).

All the Lakers need to do is make him a 4th/5th option. Hell, that was Rondo when them Celtic bums beat my Lakers in 2008. Nobody talked about his shot. He just got the ball to his shooters in scoring position, played D, and opportunistically scored.

Yes, Zo needs to improve his shot, but as I've been saying all along, he does everything else.

Zo has some big holes in his game. They're all fixable with added weight, strength, experience and hard work. His work ethic tells me that he will improve on his weaknesses by working his ass off every summer. No doubt in my mind he was the right pick for this team running the Dubs offense.

ambchang
04-18-2018, 07:18 AM
I shake my head at a lot of you farmers clowning Zo because of his shot. Anybody watch Rondo take a wet shit on Dame - two games in a row? Rondo "can't shoot" but Dame can, and he's the all star. Yet the favored Guests are down 2-0.

Like Rondo, Zo plays defense. I'd argue Zo's defense as a rookie is better than Rondo's when he was a rookie. It will improve once he gets stronger (he's rail thin right now).

All the Lakers need to do is make him a 4th/5th option. Hell, that was Rondo when them Celtic bums beat my Lakers in 2008. Nobody talked about his shot. He just got the ball to his shooters in scoring position, played D, and opportunistically scored.

Yes, Zo needs to improve his shot, but as I've been saying all along, he does everything else.

Zo has some big holes in his game. They're all fixable with added weight, strength, experience and hard work. His work ethic tells me that he will improve on his weaknesses by working his ass off every summer. No doubt in my mind he was the right pick for this team running the Dubs offense.

So wait, Rondo is effective when he had three HoFers around him, and absolute dog shit when his team was horrible (see Kings) because he can't shoot, and yet you are happy that the Lakers drafted a poor man's Rondo at #2 when the roster is horrible, when there were franchise player types that can carry a team's offense later in the draft?

LkrFan
04-18-2018, 08:47 AM
So wait, Rondo is effective when he had three HoFers around him, and absolute dog shit when his team was horrible (see Kings) because he can't shoot, and yet you are happy that the Lakers drafted a poor man's Rondo at #2 when the roster is horrible, when there were franchise player types that can carry a team's offense later in the draft?

First off, our roster is not horrible. We beat several playoff teams this year - including your Spurs twice. We had a 9 game losing streak and didn't start Randle (as Luke was building up Nance Jr. trade value - which worked). We've had several "winnable games" that didn't pan out due to injuries to key players and inexperience. Yet we still won 35 games. Matter of fact, I am okay with watching the kids grow and won't bat an eye if we miss out on max players this summer.

However, we have positioned ourselves to duplicate 2008 Celtics. We got to room for 2 max players to add to our 35 win team. For example, if we get PG13 and LBJ (as rumored), they are worth another 20 wins by themselves. And the hottest rumor is KL to LA. Pop loves Kuz. A package of our young players centered around Kuz, draft picks and cash should do it. This would be similar to the Pau trade - disgruntled star wanting out. The public knows about it so the Spurs doesn't get full value.

Imagine PG13, LBJ, and KL teaming up with Zo running the show. I could. ;)

ambchang
04-18-2018, 11:31 AM
First off, our roster is not horrible. We beat several playoff teams this year - including your Spurs twice. We had a 9 game losing streak and didn't start Randle (as Luke was building up Nance Jr. trade value - which worked). We've had several "winnable games" that didn't pan out due to injuries to key players and inexperience. Yet we still won 35 games. Matter of fact, I am okay with watching the kids grow and won't bat an eye if we miss out on max players this summer.

However, we have positioned ourselves to duplicate 2008 Celtics. We got to room for 2 max players to add to our 35 win team. For example, if we get PG13 and LBJ (as rumored), they are worth another 20 wins by themselves. And the hottest rumor is KL to LA. Pop loves Kuz. A package of our young players centered around Kuz, draft picks and cash should do it. This would be similar to the Pau trade - disgruntled star wanting out. The public knows about it so the Spurs doesn't get full value.

Imagine PG13, LBJ, and KL teaming up with Zo running the show. I could. ;)

I am not sure if I follow your logic. You appear to claim that the Lakers are not horrible, because they are actually better than their 35 game record indicates, as supported by how they lost a few games that they "shouldn't" have, but then you cited some games for which they won but were not expected to. My interpretation is that they cancel each other out, so they are a 35-win team, or roughly so, which is a horrible team.

Ingram is a stud, I give you that, but he is best with the ball in his hands, so having Lonzo is pretty much pointless. Randle is a homeless man's Zach Randolph with Kevin Willis arms, I love his hustle, I love his team first attitude, but he is a bad basketball player getting lots of burn because of how bad the team really is. He is, at best, an 8th or 9th man counted on to hustle and set screens, not a 3rd option on any team, whether they have championship aspirations or not.

Other than that, they are a bad team.

Then you go into hyperboles about all these mega-stars signing with the Lakers. Have you heard of counting chickens before they hatch? You think Lonzo will be useful with PG13, LBJ, and/or Kawhi? What is he supposed to do? Be the 3 and D buy without the 3? Lonzo is best used as a floor general for the 2nd unit of a team. Him and Randle actually work well together if they are surrounded by shooters, but then no team can afford that set up as a 2nd unit, but they are not good enough to be a decent 1st unit.

Not only that you used a #2 pick on him.

I am not saying he can't be a productive player one day, but a 2nd pick? A saviour for once proud franchise? I don't believe so.

LkrFan
04-18-2018, 11:35 AM
I am not sure if I follow your logic. You appear to claim that the Lakers are not horrible, because they are actually better than their 35 game record indicates, as supported by how they lost a few games that they "shouldn't" have, but then you cited some games for which they won but were not expected to. My interpretation is that they cancel each other out, so they are a 35-win team, or roughly so, which is a horrible team.

Ingram is a stud, I give you that, but he is best with the ball in his hands, so having Lonzo is pretty much pointless. Randle is a homeless man's Zach Randolph with Kevin Willis arms, I love his hustle, I love his team first attitude, but he is a bad basketball player getting lots of burn because of how bad the team really is. He is, at best, an 8th or 9th man counted on to hustle and set screens, not a 3rd option on any team, whether they have championship aspirations or not.

Other than that, they are a bad team.

Then you go into hyperboles about all these mega-stars signing with the Lakers. Have you heard of counting chickens before they hatch? You think Lonzo will be useful with PG13, LBJ, and/or Kawhi? What is he supposed to do? Be the 3 and D buy without the 3? Lonzo is best used as a floor general for the 2nd unit of a team. Him and Randle actually work well together if they are surrounded by shooters, but then no team can afford that set up as a 2nd unit, but they are not good enough to be a decent 1st unit.

Not only that you used a #2 pick on him.

I am not saying he can't be a productive player one day, but a 2nd pick? A saviour for once proud franchise? I don't believe so.

Lots of silly nuggets in this post. I'm quoting for future reference. :tu

ambchang
04-18-2018, 01:04 PM
Lots of silly nuggets in this post. I'm quoting for future reference. :tu

Like what? Like how you are counting on the Lakers getting Kawhi and Lebron? PG13 is a possibility, but I am not sure how the two would mesh.

And Randle is a great hustle guy, but he is like an 8th option. I am not sure how you can't see that.

People say Lonzo would fit in the old game, he won't. Kidd was way more athletic than him at a younger age, and trilobite Kidd was way smarter and had a much better outside shot. Lonzo is simply a homeless man's Rondo with none of that attitude. Not saying he's a bust, but he is not the Lakers needed, especially with the keys being in Ingram's hands.

snickles
04-18-2018, 01:30 PM
986255444262948865

and what's the point of this. to show that 9-gmae Kawhi sold more jerseys than your non-shooting savior?

Clipper Nation
04-18-2018, 01:35 PM
Just think: according to Spurfan, Kawhi is a quitter, autistic and unmarketable. He's sat out all year and plays in San Antonio. And Lonzo Bust STILL can't sell more jerseys than him despite all the media hype and playing for the biggest bandwagon franchise in sports.

Killakobe81
04-18-2018, 01:46 PM
I am not sure if I follow your logic. You appear to claim that the Lakers are not horrible, because they are actually better than their 35 game record indicates, as supported by how they lost a few games that they "shouldn't" have, but then you cited some games for which they won but were not expected to. My interpretation is that they cancel each other out, so they are a 35-win team, or roughly so, which is a horrible team.

Ingram is a stud, I give you that, but he is best with the ball in his hands, so having Lonzo is pretty much pointless. Randle is a homeless man's Zach Randolph with Kevin Willis arms, I love his hustle, I love his team first attitude, but he is a bad basketball player getting lots of burn because of how bad the team really is. He is, at best, an 8th or 9th man counted on to hustle and set screens, not a 3rd option on any team, whether they have championship aspirations or not.

Other than that, they are a bad team.

Then you go into hyperboles about all these mega-stars signing with the Lakers. Have you heard of counting chickens before they hatch? You think Lonzo will be useful with PG13, LBJ, and/or Kawhi? What is he supposed to do? Be the 3 and D buy without the 3? Lonzo is best used as a floor general for the 2nd unit of a team. Him and Randle actually work well together if they are surrounded by shooters, but then no team can afford that set up as a 2nd unit, but they are not good enough to be a decent 1st unit.

Not only that you used a #2 pick on him.

I am not saying he can't be a productive player one day, but a 2nd pick? A saviour for once proud franchise? I don't believe so.

Laker fans need to chill ...we have been a shitshow...so nothing is promised. We had a big first step this year but got a long way to go. I hope other teams look at Randle the same way Amb does because maybe we can retaon him at fair valuexto both sides. Randle is not only a bully vs small ball centers but played 82 games and wore teams down at times. I just wouldnt overpay.
Last year many called Ingram a bust, now he is a "stud".
Lakerhaters need to chill yooo. waasy To early to say what Lonzo will be yet...look how long it took for Jrue to fully develop? And Kuzma is legit and so is josh hart. We got a strong core we just lack a superstar.. we need to get one this year or next to lead this core if we want to make playoff noise.

But if we dont for once in a long while ...im excited about our team and it's future even if FA pipedreams go unfulfilled

Raven
04-18-2018, 02:41 PM
Laker fans need to chill ...we have been a shitshow...so nothing is promised. We had a big first step this year but got a long way to go. I hope other teams look at Randle the same way Amb does because maybe we can retaon him at fair valuexto both sides. Randle is not only a bully vs small ball centers but played 82 games and wore teams down at times. I just wouldnt overpay.
Last year many called Ingram a bust, now he is a "stud".
Lakerhaters need to chill yooo. waasy To early to say what Lonzo will be yet...look how long it took for Jrue to fully develop? And Kuzma is legit and so is josh hart. We got a strong core we just lack a superstar.. we need to get one this year or next to lead this core if we want to make playoff noise.

But if we dont for once in a long while ...im excited about our team and it's future even if FA pipedreams go unfulfilled

you guys keep talking like you are building a team.. but that is not the case imo, this is the year the past project is done. Clarkson is gone, Randle is gone, DBust is gone, Brook Lopez is gone, Larry Nance is gone, KCP is gone. It will be the first year of a new project, centered around Lonzo, Ingram and probably George.. The rest, who knows.

illmatic
04-18-2018, 03:26 PM
you guys keep talking like you are building a team.. but that is not the case imo, this is the year the past project is done. Clarkson is gone, Randle is gone, DBust is gone, Brook Lopez is gone, Larry Nance is gone, KCP is gone. It will be the first year of a new project, centered around Lonzo, Ingram and probably George.. The rest, who knows.

Don't forget Kyle Kuzma, their best rookie this year.

LkrFan
04-27-2018, 04:16 PM
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ambchang
04-27-2018, 09:05 PM
989945966655664129

Where are the made fts? Those are the most amazing highlights because they are so rare.

LkrFan
05-02-2018, 07:15 PM
One of the multiple wins Zo led us to in an undefeated season vs the Sp*rs. Enjoy:

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:)

Clipper Nation
05-10-2018, 12:02 AM
Lonzo Bust nowhere to be found:

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Lakers999
05-10-2018, 01:00 PM
Just think: according to Spurfan, Kawhi is a quitter, autistic and unmarketable. He's sat out all year and plays in San Antonio. And Lonzo Bust STILL can't sell more jerseys than him despite all the media hype and playing for the biggest bandwagon franchise in sports.

says the fan who was no where to be seen during the danny manning, keith closs, olowakandi, Elton brand days...

but as soon as the league stepped in to gift you CP3 and throw away your racist owner we suddenly have a clipper fan claiming he has been a fan since the san diego days.

give me a fucking break. your penguin looking owner is trying real hard to emulate the lakers, hiring jerry west and trying to build a stadium in Inglewood. No matter what you guys do you will always be in the shadow of the greatest franchise in NBA history. no one would care what the clippers accomplish. you guys can make the NBA finals 10 years in a row and the lakers will still be a bigger news story than the clippers.

the clippers need to leave southern California there is nothing they can do that will overshadow the lakers even winning a championship will not do it.

Lakers999
05-10-2018, 01:03 PM
Lonzo Bust nowhere to be found:

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meh we always do better with our draft picks in year 3

Clipper Nation
05-10-2018, 01:03 PM
:lol My join date on this website literally predates the CP0 trade. Nice try, though.

Protip: only the casuals care about "overshadowing the Lakers." The Warriors will never overshadow the Lakers in California either, but somehow I don't think that's bothering them at the moment.

Lakers999
05-10-2018, 01:08 PM
:lol My join date on this website literally predates the CP0 trade. Nice try, though.

Protip: only the casuals care about "overshadowing the Lakers." The Warriors will never overshadow the Lakers in California either, but somehow I don't think that's bothering them at the moment.

exactly and that's how your owner thinks and this is why you guys will never win

Clipper Nation
05-10-2018, 01:17 PM
exactly and that's how your owner thinks and this is why you guys will never win
Truth be told, I'm not very impressed by Ballmer so far. He needs to move on from Doc already instead of pretending he's a good coach.

However, at least he's not Sterling.

Lakers999
05-10-2018, 04:37 PM
Truth be told, I'm not very impressed by Ballmer so far. He needs to move on from Doc already instead of pretending he's a good coach.

However, at least he's not Sterling.


yea you guys got lucky with sterling getting banned

LkrFan
05-13-2018, 07:36 AM
Truth be told, I'm not very impressed by Ballmer so far. He needs to move on from Doc already instead of pretending he's a good coach.

However, at least he's not Sterling.

Ballmer put Clipper selfies up to cover up Laker Banners. Sterling did not. My unbiased analytical analysis: Sterling > Ballmer :lol

Clipper Nation
05-13-2018, 09:00 AM
Ballmer put Clipper selfies up to cover up Laker Banners. Sterling did not. My unbiased analytical analysis: Sterling > Ballmer :lol
:lol That sure triggered the hell out of Laker fans. You guys are still crying years later.

Advantage: Ballmer.

Killakobe81
05-13-2018, 09:21 AM
:lol That sure triggered the hell out of Laker fans. You guys are still crying years later.

Advantage: Ballmer.

nah just the equivalent of hiding the trophies, awards and medals in the closet of a big brother that did much better than you at ...everything. Sad, really ..

LkrFan
05-23-2018, 09:34 AM
"Longo" would have made all NBA rookie 1st team had he not missed a ton of games. He did make 2nd team. Lakers were 26-28 in games he started. All he didn't do well is score. He was top 10 in every other rookie stat:

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If 10/7/7 is his floor, I'll take it. Looking forward to his sophomore season :tu

Clipper Nation
05-24-2018, 11:08 AM
999677654143000577

Meanwhile, Lonzo Bust: 0

LkrFan
05-24-2018, 11:50 AM
999677654143000577

Meanwhile, Lonzo Bust: 0

Today's NBA Eastern Conference :lol

Clipper Nation
05-24-2018, 11:54 AM
Today's NBA Eastern Conference :lol
L0nz0

LkrFan
05-24-2018, 11:55 AM
L0nz0

:lol

Raven
05-26-2018, 04:16 AM
Couldn't even get to the all rookie first team despite the easiest path to minutes out of all rookies.. meh

LkrFan
05-26-2018, 08:11 AM
SMFH for realz. And here we go again:

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I defend Zo around these parts but ^ THIS ^ is why I didn't want Maginka to draft him. Will LaVar just STFU and go away? And when will Zo grow a pair and tell him to pipe down? :bang

Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 08:51 AM
That's future Lakers head coach, GM and trainer LaVar Ball to you, Guillermo. :downspin:

LkrFan
05-26-2018, 09:31 AM
That's future Lakers head coach, GM and trainer LaVar Ball to you, Guillermo. :downspin:

:lol - SMH

LkrFan
05-26-2018, 09:53 AM
Can't say I blame Maginka:

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RsxPiimp
05-26-2018, 09:59 AM
Can't say I blame Maginka:

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i like it tbh. take that sense of entitlement away.

afaik kuz is the only one putting in a lot of work. that kid is gonna be something special.

Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 10:22 AM
Can't say I blame Maginka:

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:lol Lakers
:lol Already giving up on Lonzo Bust
:lol Another #2 pick wasted

LkrFan
05-26-2018, 10:43 AM
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ambchang
05-26-2018, 11:22 AM
There is no shaking the balls. The lakers are now a BBB subsidiary:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23608354/los-angeles-lakers-work-liangelo-ball

Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 12:07 PM
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Watch him go from Lonzo Bust in LA to Lonzo Beast in Phoenix after Magic trades him for the Suns' trash.

LkrFan
05-26-2018, 03:30 PM
Watch him go from Lonzo Bust in LA to Lonzo Beast in Phoenix after Magic trades him for the Suns' trash.

That really would piss me off :lol

spursistan
05-27-2018, 10:16 PM
Drafting this bum ass instead of Tatum :lmao..

Quadzilla99
05-27-2018, 10:20 PM
Lol passing on tatum :lol

Clipper Nation
06-08-2018, 04:59 PM
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ambchang
06-08-2018, 10:50 PM
1004811081632673792

How are the first three guys stars?

LkrFan
07-02-2018, 11:20 AM
tl;dr: "LOL NBA - Lakers are back in the hunt"

:lol

Caption this shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit:
https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/gty_893206134_96031169-e1513340902660.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

LBJ: I could give a John Clawd Van Damn about midnightpulp's thread. I'll help you get to the next level next year. Don't listen to them farmers on ST

:lol

I was the first to say free agents would want to play with this kid. ME

Neal with it hatas :toast

lebomb
07-02-2018, 11:59 AM
Ok, I will caption it.

Lebron: Dont you eva, eva, eva shoot it nigga!! Just pass me the Ball............Ball.

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:08 AM
:lol last two #2 picks looking like trash

That's funny. The BEST player in the world decided he would not only leave $50M on the table in Cleveland, he chose to play with a bust. Funny how I told you classholes that free agents will want to play with him. But nooooooooo - he can't shoot, he's a retarded Jason Kidd, blah blah blah. What's your excuse now that the Kang signed with the Lakers? :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit if you have to son. :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:11 AM
Longo Bell :lmao

Longo gonna be serving up a ton of and-1s to the Kang. LBJ NEVER played with a pass 1st PG like him. He won't have to work so hard on offense and be dog tired at the end of games like in The Land. :)

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:12 AM
Ouch. Skunked tonight.

He's undefeated in getting the best player in the world to come play with him tho. Most busts can't do that. ;)

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:15 AM
They have to sell that snake oil to Lakers fans because NBA profit sharing means every team in the league needs the Lakers to sell out games.

Staples Center will be a tough ticket the next 4 years tbh. I'm sure the Kang and Lonzo will cause even San Antonio to raise their frontcourt seats to a whopping $6 when they come to town :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:17 AM
Shit's hilarious thinking Lavar may blow up Magic's rebuilding plan. If I'm LeBron, if I'm Paul George I don't want to deal with that circus sideshow crap either.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

TDMVPDPOY
07-05-2018, 08:19 AM
Staples Center will be a tough ticket the next 4 years tbh. I'm sure the Kang and Lonzo will cause even San Antonio to raise their frontcourt seats to a whopping $6 :lol

revenue sharing of luxury tax teams, dunno if the spurs are under the threshold to receive such payments...

but whats the total of luxury tax to be shared this season?

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:26 AM
revenue sharing of luxury tax teams, dunno if the spurs are under the threshold to receive such payments...

but whats the total of luxury tax to be shared this season?

That's a great question. I have no idea, but for the 1st time in 5 years, the NBA will receive foodstamps from the Lakers. You're welcome :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:28 AM
Fucking Kuzma "The Force" is coming off the bench because :cry Larry Nance Jr

Use The Force, Luke! :lol

See, you're playing checkers again. Luke had to play LNJ to boost his trade value. Along with Clarkson, we "traded" him to the Land to get a 1st round pick (Mo Wagner) for LBJ to play with. :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:37 AM
Looks like he's in select company:

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Not bad for a bust. :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 08:55 AM
I'm predicting that LaVar will drink a tall warm glass of STFU this year:

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Gotta admit, I'm concerned that he has knee issues at 20 years old. He missed 30+ games as a rookie, he's had PRP (like Kobe), and now he "might" need surgery? Not good.

I questioned the Rondo signing, but now it makes sense. Not only can Rondo run the team if Zo is out for any extended period of time, he can also take over if LaVar causes Maginka to ship his ass out. :lol

Clipper Nation
07-05-2018, 09:02 AM
:lol Imagine thinking Lonzo isn't trash because the Lakers decided to give LeBron a retirement tour. Really grasping at straws there, Marcelo.

lebomb
07-05-2018, 09:07 AM
Looks like he's in select company:

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Not bad for a bust. :lol

They failed to mention ............ he shot at a 17% clip in doing so.

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 09:10 AM
:lol Imagine thinking Lonzo isn't trash because the Lakers decided to give LeBron a retirement tour. Really grasping at straws there, Marcelo.

:lol

Retirement tour? :lol Too bad he didn't want to be with Doc Rivers. Even your cousin Clipper Darrell is on Lonzo's bandwagon :lol

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 09:11 AM
They failed to mention ............ he shot at a 17% clip in doing so.

LeBron chose Lonzo over PopPERIOD.

Clipper Nation
07-05-2018, 09:13 AM
:lol

Retirement tour? :lol Too bad he didn't want to be with Doc Rivers. Even your cousin Clipper Darrell is on Lonzo's bandwagon :lol
:lol Yes, retirement tour. LeBron is a movie star now, Roberto. Just be happy for Boogie in June.

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 10:53 AM
:lol Yes, retirement tour. LeBron is a movie star now, Roberto. Just be happy for Boogie in June.

:lol

ambchang
07-05-2018, 01:15 PM
Looks like he's in select company:

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Not bad for a bust. :lol

He’s the only rookie to average 30+mpg and shoot less than 30%. L:lolnz:lol

Joseph Kony
07-05-2018, 06:42 PM
That's funny. The BEST player in the world decided he would not only leave $50M on the table in Cleveland, he chose to play with a bust. Funny how I told you classholes that free agents will want to play with him. But nooooooooo - he can't shoot, he's a retarded Jason Kidd, blah blah blah. What's your excuse now that the Kang signed with the Lakers? :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit if you have to son. :lol

Lebron and the Lakers aint doing shit and you know it Ignacio. Their fate is to be swept by GS every year. Lebron went to LA because he knows he will never beat GS so he wants to stop tarnishing his finals record. pretty obvious tbh. besides who the fuck wants to live in Cleveland

LkrFan
07-05-2018, 07:49 PM
Lebron and the Lakers aint doing shit and you know it Ignacio. Their fate is to be swept by GS every year. Lebron went to LA because he knows he will never beat GS so he wants to stop tarnishing his finals record. pretty obvious tbh. besides who the fuck wants to live in Cleveland

:lol

LkrFan
07-08-2018, 10:34 PM
:lol Yes, retirement tour. LeBron is a movie star now, Roberto. Just be happy for Boogie in June.

Friendly PSA: Lonzo = 3-0 vs the Spurs:

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baseline bum get your hummingbird ass in here and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! :lmao

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 10:19 AM
John Wall, Dame, Kyrie. ALL D'd up by Lonzo:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eslDTPGVqdI

We know he can pass, we know he can rebound, but most of you farmers won't recognize that he plays good defense.

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 10:25 AM
Friendly PSA: Lonzo = 3-0 vs the Spurs:

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baseline bum (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) get your hummingbird ass in here and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! :lmao
Remember when PatBev welcomed Lonzo to the league? :downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9xcqI6dm_4

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LkrFan
07-10-2018, 11:05 AM
Remember when PatBev welcomed Lonzo to the league? :downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9xcqI6dm_4

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Yep yep. I do :lol

Rondo is here now. I'm sure he'll rough Lonzo up in practice. Lonzo also beefed up. So I am certain Patricia won't be starting no shit this year. :lol

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 11:35 AM
Rondo is here now.
:lol GM Magic


I'm sure he'll rough Lonzo up in practice.
Until Luke gets fired and replaced by Coach LaVar. Then, that won't be allowed anymore.

Killakobe81
07-10-2018, 12:32 PM
:lol Imagine thinking Lonzo isn't trash because the Lakers decided to give LeBron a retirement tour. Really grasping at straws there, Marcelo.

So sad...:(
:lmao

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 01:03 PM
:lol GM Magic


Until Luke gets fired and replaced by Coach LaVar. Then, that won't be allowed anymore.

:lol

Rondo >>> all Clipp PGs tbh. And I would absolutely start him over Lonzo if I was Luke. Luke won't do it though.

Raven
07-10-2018, 01:36 PM
:lol

Rondo >>> all Clipp PGs tbh. And I would absolutely start him over Lonzo if I was Luke. Luke won't do it though.

don't worry, he'll start soon enough.

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 02:41 PM
:lol

Rondo >>> all Clipp PGs tbh. And I would absolutely start him over Lonzo if I was Luke. Luke won't do it though.
This is a brick if Lonzo shoots it:

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LkrFan
07-10-2018, 02:44 PM
This is a brick if Lonzo shoots it:

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Summer League highlights? My how far the Mighty Lob City nation has fallen :lmao

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 02:51 PM
Summer League highlights? My how far the Mighty Lob City nation has fallen :lmao

Lakerfan was all hyped for Summer League last year when Lonzo was playing... until the first game happened and Lonzo shot 2-15, got posterized by Brice Johnson, and couldn't guard Kendall Marshall. Then the narrative was "who cares, it's only Summer League!" :downspin:

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 02:59 PM
:lol Case in point:


He was a threat last night:

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Scoreless after 1st quarter, 36 points in the last 3. And-1 gave us the lead too (clutch).

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 03:15 PM
Lakerfan was all hyped for Summer League last year when Lonzo was playing... until the first game happened and Lonzo shot 2-15, got posterized by Brice Johnson, and couldn't guard Kendall Marshall. Then the narrative was "who cares, it's only Summer League!" :downspin:

I graduated from Summer League highlights. Too bad you are just getting started with yours :lmao

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 03:17 PM
:lol Case in point:

That was the Summer League game The Kang watched in person, correct? The Kang paid Summer League money to watch a bust. :downspin:

Raven
07-10-2018, 03:21 PM
That was the Summer League game The Kang watched in person, correct? The Kang paid Summer League money to watch a bust. :downspin:
do you pay tickets for summer league?

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 03:24 PM
do you pay tickets for summer league?

Nope. I live on the East Coast. Not happening.

Raven
07-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Nope. I live on the East Coast. Not happening.

I meant if there's any tickets to be paid at all..

Clipper Nation
07-10-2018, 03:50 PM
I graduated from Summer League highlights. Too bad you are just getting started with yours :lmao

:lol Too bad Lonzo hasn't graduated from being a bust yet.

140
07-10-2018, 04:08 PM
do you pay tickets for summer league?
Yeah and they're getting more expensive each year tbh...I heard this year a regular ticket is like 35 bucks and courtside seats are 500+ :lol

LkrFan
07-10-2018, 04:54 PM
:lol Too bad Lonzo hasn't graduated from being a bust yet.

:lol

LkrFan
07-12-2018, 01:23 PM
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:wow

LkrFan
07-12-2018, 03:59 PM
Remember when PatBev welcomed Lonzo to the league? :downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9xcqI6dm_4

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After each rep, he's thinking of fucking Patricia shit up :lmao

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This MFer gonna come back to camp benching 300lbs. Not bad for a PG. :wow

Killakobe81
07-12-2018, 04:36 PM
After each rep, he's thinking of fucking Patricia shit up :lmao

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This MFer gonna come back to camp benching 300lbs. Not bad for a PG. :wow

LeBron already showing his positive influence on his teammates. LeBron putting in work inspiring his squad.

Clipper Nation
07-12-2018, 05:58 PM
After each rep, he's thinking of fucking Patricia shit up :lmao

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This MFer gonna come back to camp benching 300lbs. Not bad for a PG. :wow
He should try thinking of making a jump shot for once in his career instead, tbh.

LkrFan
07-13-2018, 04:48 PM
Nice game vs the Champs:

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LBJ ain't get no games like that from G Hill (former Spur who y'all traded for Kiwi :lol). Oh, and now that he's beefing up, his defense should improve too. :tu

KillerMamba
07-13-2018, 07:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776
(https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776)

Los Angeles Lakers‏Verified account @Lakers (https://twitter.com/Lakers)

MEDICAL UPDATE: Lonzo Ball is scheduled to undergo arthroscopic surgery to his left knee on Tuesday. An update will be provided following the completion of the surgery.

Raven
07-14-2018, 08:47 AM
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776
(https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776)

Los Angeles Lakers‏Verified account @Lakers (https://twitter.com/Lakers)

MEDICAL UPDATE: Lonzo Ball is scheduled to undergo arthroscopic surgery to his left knee on Tuesday. An update will be provided following the completion of the surgery.
ups

Killakobe81
07-14-2018, 08:53 AM
Not good news no way to spin that...
I guess only thing you can praise which is still dumb he initially tried to tough it out...but now Rondo deal makes compete sense.
Another smart move by Maginka.
Just sucks we already need a injury replacement for our sophmore PG.

Clipper Nation
07-14-2018, 09:08 AM
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776
(https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017891434114891776)

Los Angeles Lakers‏Verified account @Lakers (https://twitter.com/Lakers)

MEDICAL UPDATE: Lonzo Ball is scheduled to undergo arthroscopic surgery to his left knee on Tuesday. An update will be provided following the completion of the surgery. LkrFan - get in here and :downspin: this shit!

LkrFan
07-14-2018, 09:18 AM
LkrFan - get in here and :downspin: this shit!

:lol - can't. For those of us wondering why they got Rondo, well now we know. :lol

Bill_Brasky
07-14-2018, 09:22 AM
Lol 45% FT shooting guard

DPG21920
07-14-2018, 09:28 AM
Not good news no way to spin that...
I guess only thing you can praise which is still dumb he initially tried to tough it out...but now Rondo deal makes compete sense.
Another smart move by Maginka.
Just sucks we already need a injury replacement for our sophmore PG.

Didn’t they play Lonzo a lot of minutes to end the year knowing he had a knee issue? Why? They weren’t winning anything.

Carhanu
07-14-2018, 11:07 AM
Lol there goes his trade value. What a terrible draft pick.