Dang Al Franken is a gropy creeper too

[TSA]

Just so you have your ducks in a row. Quibble over mall bannings, and ignore the rape stuff. Magic "R" to the rescue.

Because I correct a statement you put in bold to make a point that means I am ignoring the rape stuff :lol Fuck you and fuck Roy Moore.

[sickdsm]

lol be specific. why you trolls always so demanding? power complex much?

as for your question... just because i haven't sat here and actually downed this guy or that guy in the conservative party doesn't mean i like or relate to that party. as i have said before, real liberalism died decades ago and the manifestation of liberalism today is more repressive. from free speech to the 2nd amendment, liberals want to silence it all. sad but true. that's the liberal ideology i can't stand and usually it's hipsters, young 20 yr olds with no life experience, old crotchety hippys that are now biz people, professors, etc... a scourge on our society!
Conservatives and liberals cannot fathom being in the middle. Trash Hilary? "Yeah,well, but Trump....." Fuck Trump? "Your just a liberal that wants to take our guns."


Libertarians are accused of being closet gop. Independents are accused of not actually being independent

[spurraider21]

When asked to describe flaws of conservatism, totally nonpartisan koriwhat turns that into a long winded rant about liberalism. I'm shocked

[RandomGuy]

Because I correct a statement you put in bold to make a point that means I am ignoring the rape stuff :lol Fuck you and fuck Roy Moore.

Fair enough. Withdrawn, and sorry.

[Spurminator]

lol be specific. why you trolls always so demanding? power complex much?

as for your question... just because i haven't sat here and actually downed this guy or that guy in the conservative party doesn't mean i like or relate to that party. as i have said before, real liberalism died decades ago and the manifestation of liberalism today is more repressive. from free speech to the 2nd amendment, liberals want to silence it all. sad but true. that's the liberal ideology i can't stand and usually it's hipsters, young 20 yr olds with no life experience, old crotchety hippys that are now biz people, professors, etc... a scourge on our society!

You're not helping your cause.

[AaronY]

Yeah I was prety disappointed by this too. Figured this was the perfect opportunity to show that liberals aren’t hypocrites and would disown Franken, but basically all my liberal friends did the “if these allegations are proven true, then...” bullshit, talked about how she’s not credible due to being friends with Hannity, even went full retard claiming this is a Roger Stone masterminded conspiracy.
The picture is like the perfect thing to stick in a liberals face anytime they speak out against sex assault too. And whats the defense? There is none. Every defense I've seen has just been a shitload of trying to get people lost in a maze of moral relativism and come out looking like a fucking partisan hack

[RandomGuy]

lol be specific. why you trolls always so demanding? power complex much?

as for your question... just because i haven't sat here and actually downed this guy or that guy in the conservative party doesn't mean i like or relate to that party. as i have said before, real liberalism died decades ago and the manifestation of liberalism today is more repressive. from free speech to the 2nd amendment, liberals want to silence it all. sad but true. that's the liberal ideology i can't stand and usually it's hipsters, young 20 yr olds with no life experience, old crotchety hippys that are now biz people, professors, etc... a scourge on our society!

So what is wrong with modern conservatism then? Do tell
.

[RandomGuy]

Poker buddy?

No I would not play poker. Just pizza and talks about politics.

[TSA]

The picture is like the perfect thing to stick in a liberals face anytime they speak out against sex assault too.Thank you for the avatar :rollin

[AaronY]

Thank you for the avatar :rollin
Good. I honestly approve this move by you here. Every liberal should have eat that fucking shit sandwich every day when they talk about sex assault till he steps down.

[koriwhat]

So what is wrong with modern conservatism then? Do tell
.

it sucks and stop being so demanding as if i owe you anything fool.

[koriwhat]

Conservatives and liberals cannot fathom being in the middle. Trash Hilary? "Yeah,well, but Trump....." Fuck Trump? "Your just a liberal that wants to take our guns."


Libertarians are accused of being closet gop. Independents are accused of not actually being independent

can't agree more.

[koriwhat]

You're not helping your cause.

i have no cause so what's the excuse now?

[koriwhat]

When asked to describe flaws of conservatism, totally nonpartisan koriwhat turns that into a long winded rant about liberalism. I'm shocked

i have to rant or you fools twist everything so there's that. can't appease you fools with my answers because yall just want more more more... sounds like a liberal to me.

[Spurminator]

i have no cause so what's the excuse now?

You claimed impartiality. It's okay, none of us believes you anyway. Just trying to save you time.

[koriwhat]

You claimed impartiality. It's okay, none of us believes you anyway. Just trying to save you time.

don't care if you believe me just like i wouldn't care if your obituary was posted in tomorrow's newpaper. you mean nothing to me and neither does your opinion of me.

[RandomGuy]

lol be specific. why you trolls always so demanding? power complex much?

as for your question... just because i haven't sat here and actually downed this guy or that guy in the conservative party doesn't mean i like or relate to that party. as i have said before, real liberalism died decades ago and the manifestation of liberalism today is more repressive. from free speech to the 2nd amendment, liberals want to silence it all. sad but true. that's the liberal ideology i can't stand and usually it's hipsters, young 20 yr olds with no life experience, old crotchety hippys that are now biz people, professors, etc... a scourge on our society!

So when given the direct opportunity to criticize modern conservatism as clearly as you can criticize liberals, you... don't.

I can only assume you are lying about that.

Fuck I hate conservatives that fake being all cool about hating both sides equally... a know-nothing scourge on society.

Quit pretending you aren't biased, and get on with it. Lie to yourself and be delusional if you want, but don't piss on my boots and tell me its raining.

Sheesh.
.
.

[RandomGuy]

You claimed impartiality. It's okay, none of us believes you anyway. Just trying to save you time.

I was willing to believe him until proven otherwise.

Why do people pretend like that? It's bizarre.

[RandomGuy]

Thank you for the avatar :rollin

Wow. Tone deaf, but at least you gave up on Mueller indicting Hillary. :lol

[koriwhat]

So when given the direct opportunity to criticize modern conservatism as clearly as you can criticize liberals, you... don't.

I can only assume you are lying about that.

Fuck I hate conservatives that fake being all cool about hating both sides equally... a know-nothing scourge on society.

Quit pretending you aren't biased, and get on with it. Lie to yourself and be delusional if you want, but don't piss on my boots and tell me its raining.

Sheesh.
.
.

yall are all the same ilk. lame fucks!

"i don't agree with you and you won't do what i say so you're a liar! prove otherwise because you owe it to me to do so. i got my panties in a wad because i'm a crybaby liberal who demands more!"

[koriwhat]

I was willing to believe him until proven otherwise.

Why do people pretend like that? It's bizarre.

why do you pretend to know what i am about and what i am not about? mr know nothing.

[RandomGuy]

Good. I honestly approve this move by you here. Every liberal should have eat that fucking shit sandwich every day when they talk about sex assault till he steps down.

(shrugs)

It is a one-off, he apologized, she doesn't want him to step down.

No skin off my nose. If one can't tell the difference between that and what Moore is accused of, that is on them.

[boutons_deux]

SHS said this afternoon that the difference between Trash's sexual abuses and Franken's is

that Franken has admitted,

while Trash hasn't (meaning that Trash is automatically self-acquitted).

:lol

SHS, as WH Insult Dog, insults the universe's intelligence every time she opens her Arkansas/redneck mouth.

[AaronY]

(shrugs)

It is a one-off, he apologized, she doesn't want him to step down.

No skin off my nose. If one can't tell the difference between that and what Moore is accused of, that is on them.
Lmao. No big deal.

https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Al-Franken-Groping-Reporter-w-border-e1510847892992.png

Move along folks nothing to see.

Like I just said earlier impossible to defend without getting lost in moral relativism "other sides got pedophiles!" Or sounding like a partisan hack

[koriwhat]

(shrugs)

It is a one-off, he apologized, she doesn't want him to step down.

No skin off my nose. If one can't tell the difference between that and what Moore is accused of, that is on them.

so because he apologized and she doesn't demand he lose his position you're ok with it? hmm... seems a bit odd to me but whatever. i say crucify the shit head. fuck 2face hypocrites!

[RandomGuy]

why do you pretend to know what i am about and what i am not about? mr know nothing.

I really don't care. I was just curious to see if you were telling the truth. Now I know you weren't. That makes me Mr. Know You are Full of Shit.

I wasn't even asking you, but you are free to answer the question I guess, since you would know. Why do people like you pretend not to be biased and say things like "both sides are bad"?

[AaronY]

Like I literally just said every defense I've seen involves trying to get people lost in a maze of moral relativism and ending up sounding like a partisan hack and so he goes "well other side is pedophiles!" Lmao

[RandomGuy]

Lmao. No big deal.

https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Al-Franken-Groping-Reporter-w-border-e1510847892992.png

Move along folks nothing to see.

Like I just said earlier impossible to defend without getting lost in moral relativism "other sides got pedophiles!" Or sounding like a partisan hack

So you don't understand the difference between attempted rape and this. Got it.

It is wrong. Pretty clear on that point. It is a big deal, because he is a Senator.

Not sure what you want or need, unless my opinion is too politically incorrect for you. Is that what you are saying?

[monosylab1k]

so because he apologized and she doesn't demand he lose his position you're ok with it? hmm... seems a bit odd to me but whatever. i say crucify the shit head. fuck 2face hypocrites!

You’ll always have that time you tried to fight Johnny Knoxville.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSS0iNxp9K0

[koriwhat]

I really don't care. I was just curious to see if you were telling the truth. Now I know you weren't. That makes me Mr. Know You are Full of Shit.

I wasn't even asking you, but you are free to answer the question I guess, since you would know. Why do people like you pretend not to be biased and say things like "both sides are bad"?

mr fucking know it all... lmao! damned if you do, damned if you don't. fuck your mentality. "it's my way or no way!" i get it, that's how libs are. understandable. you prove my point with every smug reply you give. your better than everyone else mentality is exactly the definition of liberalism and the disease you have accepted.

how many times do i have to say fuck repubs before you realise i am saying fuck the repubs? i can tell you can read but are you actually comprehending anything?

[koriwhat]

You’ll always have that time you tried to fight Johnny Knoxville.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSS0iNxp9K0

go suck some little lady boys dick little gay asian.

[koriwhat]

So you don't understand the difference between attempted rape and this. Got it.

It is wrong. Pretty clear on that point. It is a big deal, because he is a Senator.

Not sure what you want or need, unless my opinion is too politically incorrect for you. Is that what you are saying?

I really don't care. I was just curious to see if you were telling the truth. Now I know you weren't. That makes me Mr. Know You are Full of Shit.

I wasn't even asking you, but you are free to answer the question I guess, since you would know. Why do people like you pretend not to be biased and say things like "you don't understand the difference between attempted rape and this. Got it."?

[monosylab1k]

(shrugs)

It is a one-off, he apologized, she doesn't want him to step down.

No skin off my nose. If one can't tell the difference between that and what Moore is accused of, that is on them.

We all know Roy Moore is worse than Al Franken. But that should be irrelevant here.

[monosylab1k]

go suck some little lady boys dick little gay asian.

“That long hair don’t cover that red neck, boy!”

[AaronY]

So you don't understand the difference between attempted rape and this. Got it.

It is wrong. Pretty clear on that point. It is a big deal, because he is a Senator.

Not sure what you want or need, unless my opinion is too politically incorrect for you. Is that what you are saying?
Excellent point. Scroll down for my counterpoint






































https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Al-Franken-Groping-Reporter-w-border-e1510847892992.png

[RandomGuy]

mr fucking know it all... lmao! damned if you do, damned if you don't. fuck your mentality. "it's my way or no way!" i get it, that's how libs are. understandable. you prove my point with every smug reply you give. your better than everyone else mentality is exactly the definition of liberalism and the disease you have accepted.

how many times do i have to say fuck repubs before you realise i am saying fuck the repubs? i can tell you can read but are you actually comprehending anything?

Sure. Whatever you say.

You prove my point with every smug reply you give about how bad liberals are. You might even believe your own schtick, but for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, stop asking me to buy your delusion.

[koriwhat]

We all know Roy Moore is worse than Al Franken. But that should be irrelevant here.

how do we know that? oh we don't. you're a lib and i forgot, yall know everything! we do know how odd moore is now that he claims to have dated youngins but with their parents permission which is disgusting in my opinion and i have no clue what a man would want in a child(teen) other than power. some states are so backwards where consent is allowed at like 15-16 yrs old. so wrong!


“That long hair don’t cover that red neck, boy!”

ah good ol' david allan coe.

[RandomGuy]

Excellent point. Scroll down for my counterpoint






































https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Al-Franken-Groping-Reporter-w-border-e1510847892992.png

I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason.

As I said, it's on you to understand the difference. I can't make you, other than point it out.

[koriwhat]

Sure. Whatever you say.

You prove my point with every smug reply you give about how bad liberals are. You might even believe your own schtick, but for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, stop asking me to buy your delusion.

not a shtick at all. fuck the gimme gimme gimme mental disease so rampant in liberalism.

btw, you're the weirdo who's bringing up some stupid ass flying spaghetti bs so now i know you're def too far gone.

[Monostradamus]

how do we know that? oh we don't. you're a lib and i forgot, yall know everything! we do know how odd moore is now that he claims to have dated youngins but with their parents permission which is disgusting in my opinion and i have no clue what a man would want in a child(teen) other than power. some states are so backwards where consent is allowed at like 15-16 yrs old. so wrong!



ah good ol' david allan coe.
Or 14 in Roy Moore’s case.

[koriwhat]

I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason.

As I said, it's on you to understand the difference. I can't make you, other than point it out.

moore is a creeper but with consent. still not right in this day and age, not right in my mind back then either but i wasn't around in those days nor live their way of life during those times.

franken is a creeper and takes advantage without consent and also while the victim is incoherent.

what's the difference again? age? consent?

[koriwhat]

Or 14 in Roy Moore’s case.

yuck

[TeyshaBlue]

He does poorly on many higher order functions of logic, abstract thinking, and math.

Which Senator is this? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

The woman says that he groped her, based on the picture, but the picture doesn't show any contact. He expressed a great deal of remorse. As I said, I am willing to let a one-off slide, with some contrition.
If Franken was a Republican, you wouldn't be making all these lame excuses.

[AaronY]

I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason.

As I said, it's on you to understand the difference. I can't make you, other than point it out.

If you lost in that maze of moral relativism I mentioned you would know it right?

[AaronY]

Guys we only assault them when they're sleeping and we make damn sure they're adults first!

So much better!

Night and day!

[TeyshaBlue]

Like I literally just said every defense I've seen involves trying to get people lost in a maze of moral relativism and ending up sounding like a partisan hack and so he goes "well other side is pedophiles!" Lmao

It's the False Equivalence Force Field. Inpenatrable!

[Spurminator]

don't care if you believe me just like i wouldn't care if your obituary was posted in tomorrow's newpaper. you mean nothing to me and neither does your opinion of me.

I mean, you asked...

[boutons_deux]

Bill Clinton's sex was consensual between two adults.

[koriwhat]

I mean, you asked...

i don't ever remember asking you about anything.

[spurraider21]

Koriwhat trying his hardest to avoid offering a critique of conservatism is about as entertaining as spurtacular refusing to name a clinton crime

[CosmicCowboy]

Frankens totally safe. They referred him to the "Senate Ethics Committee" which is the bi-partisan black hole where scandalous behavior by Senators goes to die. Hell, they havent acted against a Senator in 20 years (Bob Packwood) and it took them 3 years despite overwhelming evidence.

[Spurminator]

i don't ever remember asking you about anything.

Then perhaps you should read your previous posts.

[pgardn]

Lmao. No big deal.

https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Al-Franken-Groping-Reporter-w-border-e1510847892992.png

Move along folks nothing to see.

Like I just said earlier impossible to defend without getting lost in moral relativism "other sides got pedophiles!" Or sounding like a partisan hack

One of Moore's 14 yo accusers said her mom was proud that a young 30 something yo old lawyer was looking for wife. (After daughter was grabbed) Mom did not know Moore was married. In the context of the time and place one can see how a young girl might be totally befuddled by what was appropriate. But she knew she was horribly uncomfortable and tod not to tell. And so one can see how Moore felt entitled by his surroundings. Mom was " he looking for a wife, oh goody"

It reminds me somewhat of people who look at Nazi Germany and claim they would never have been Nazis. Context and time is important in moral relativism. It's all wrong. This lady did not even understand her own daughter was ashamed of herself. I think Franken should resign. But there are certainly degrees of depravity to be determined by our own sense of fairness and harm done to a victim. And I say this without knowing exactly what determines who should be allowed to represent our country as a Senator.

This is country still does not treat women as equals in rights. But they can vote now. And il bet more women vote based on their husband's preference than the other way around. And we still have tough debates when our children actually have rights to decide certain individual preferences and when parents have the right to shame, spank, embarrass their children.

I understand how people give their own grades. And it's really based on Judeo-Christian concerns of the idea that every individual has been given certain rights by God, non believers as well. (And Despite what Chis thinks)

[pgardn]

Frankens totally safe. They referred him to the "Senate Ethics Committee" which is the bi-partisan black hole where scandalous behavior by Senators goes to die. Hell, they havent acted against a Senator in 20 years (Bob Packwood) and it took them 3 years despite overwhelming evidence.

Oh yeah. I completely overlooked Packwood and others. Possible because we are discussing this now. In the wake of Hollywood depravity. Context and current environment.

Oh yeah. I read about John Tower, who I don't know that much about, but was supposed to be a very knowledgeable conservative chasing women around desks and keeping mistresses in Geneva. He was apparently a very effective Senator.

[koriwhat]

Koriwhat trying his hardest to avoid offering a critique of conservatism is about as entertaining as spurtacular refusing to name a clinton crime

there's no answer that'll be adequate for you and your side. it is what it is and i already know this. around and around we go.


Then perhaps you should read your previous posts.

fuck that! i don't want to read my lame replies. i feel bad enough that you all wait by like little kids on christmas eve waiting for santa.

[DMC]

One of Moore's 14 yo accusers said her mom was proud that a young 30 something yo old lawyer was looking for wife. (After daughter was grabbed) Mom did not know Moore was married. In the context of the time and place one can see how a young girl might be totally befuddled by what was appropriate. But she knew she was horribly uncomfortable and tod not to tell. And so one can see how Moore felt entitled by his surroundings. Mom was " he looking for a wife, oh goody"

It reminds me somewhat of people who look at Nazi Germany and claim they would never have been Nazis. Context and time is important in moral relativism. It's all wrong. This lady did not even understand her own daughter was ashamed of herself. I think Franken should resign. But there are certainly degrees of depravity to be determined by our own sense of fairness and harm done to a victim. And I say this without knowing exactly what determines who should be allowed to represent our country as a Senator.

This is country still does not treat women as equals in rights. But they can vote now. And il bet more women vote based on their husband's preference than the other way around. And we still have tough debates when our children actually have rights to decide certain individual preferences and when parents have the right to shame, spank, embarrass their children.

I understand how people give their own grades. And it's really based on Judeo-Christian concerns of the idea that every individual has been given certain rights by God, non believers as well. (And Despite what Chis thinks)

Yet liberals are crying that we don't embrace the Islamic culture.

You think women get treated poorly in the US, at least Moore didn't throw acid in her face and mutilate her genitalia, or maybe even have all his brothers rape her and have her imprisoned and shot for being a whore.

[DMC]

Koriwhat trying his hardest to avoid offering a critique of conservatism is about as entertaining as spurtacular refusing to name a clinton crime

Or as entertaining as reading another one of your passive aggressive, fence squatting notes on the goings on around you.

[koriwhat]

Yet liberals are crying that we don't embrace the Islamic culture.

You think women get treated poorly in the US, at least Moore didn't throw acid in her face and mutilate her genitalia, or maybe even have all his brothers rape her and have her imprisoned and shot for being a whore.

no doubt. stop the islamaphobia! it's their culture and they should be allowed to rape kids & women.

[spurraider21]

Yet liberals are crying that we don't embrace the Islamic culture.

You think women get treated poorly in the US, at least Moore didn't throw acid in her face and mutilate her genitalia, or maybe even have all his brothers rape her and have her imprisoned and shot for being a whore.
Oh look more Strawman from DMC

Now liberals support acid attacks, genital mutilation, and sharia law

Strawman for everybody!

Inb4 ":cry passive aggressive :cry"

[koriwhat]

Oh look more Strawman from DMC

Now liberals support acid attacks, genital mutilation, and sharia law

Strawman for everybody!

Inb4 ":cry passive aggressive :cry"

linda says hi.

https://nteb-mudflowermedia.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/linda-sarsour-anti-trump-womens-march-washington-dc-january-21-2017-hamas-islamic-terrorism-933x445.jpg

[DMC]

Oh look more Strawman from DMC

Now liberals support acid attacks, genital mutilation, and sharia law

Strawman for everybody!

Inb4 ":cry passive aggressive :cry"

Of course you don't support the wet, only the rain.

Do you think you can separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks?

[Monostradamus]

Of course you don't support the wet, only the rain.

Do you think you can separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks?
So obviously you’d agree that mass shootings = white American male culture.

[DMC]

So obviously you’d agree that mass shootings = white American male culture.

According to Sharia law (see links for details):

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38 - includes graphic image).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death (See Compulsion).
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death (see "Islamophobia").
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims are to subjugate the world under Islam (see Quran 9:29 and Palestine Issue).
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.


Yeah I see how your analogy works...

[spurraider21]

Of course you don't support the wet, only the rain.

Do you think you can separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks?
There are millions of Muslims in the us now. They don't stone whores or put apostates to death.

We have a lot of Christians here too but we don't sell our daughters into slavery if they're disobedient

[spurraider21]

linda says hi.

https://nteb-mudflowermedia.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/linda-sarsour-anti-trump-womens-march-washington-dc-january-21-2017-hamas-islamic-terrorism-933x445.jpg
So now she represents all liberals on everything she says

[DMC]

There are millions of Muslims in the us now. They don't stone whores or put apostates to death.

We have a lot of Christians here too but we don't sell our daughters into slavery if they're disobedient

I'm atheist, you're not going to bad analogy me into an emotional response.

What predominantly Muslim country shows respect to women in a way you'd approve of?

Muslims in a democracy where laws exist already (not created by Islamic beliefs) means the dilution is acid into water. How do westerners fare in Muslim countries? Do they co-exist peacefully? That's water into acid.

[DMC]

Christianity is facing elimination in its Biblical homeland. Between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have departed or been killed over the past century. Short attributes the intolerance and violence towards Christians to the rising Islamicization of Middle Eastern countries. Some of the oppression is government sanctioned and some government permitted; most is government ignored.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-james-clark/christianity-most-persecuted-religion_b_2402644.html


:cry but they seem so nice when they're outnumbered. Let them spread and grow, and infiltrate the government so we can have that type of environment in the US.


:lol as if the culture exists separate from the people who created it

[Chris]

I'm atheist, you're not going to bad analogy me into an emotional response.

What predominantly Muslim country shows respect to women in a way you'd approve of?

Muslims in a democracy where laws exist already (not created by Islamic beliefs) means the dilution is acid into water. How do westerners fare in Muslim countries? Do they co-exist peacefully? That's water into acid.

Classic whataboutism from 21. It's all he knows. He can't process that Islamic cultures and Western cultures don't mesh. :cry But the peaceful Muslims! :cry It's a fucked up religion for fucked up people. Plain and simple.

[Quadzilla99]

Classic whataboutism from 21. It's all he knows. He can't process that Islamic cultures and Western cultures don't mesh. :cry But the peaceful Muslims! :cry It's a fucked up religion for fucked up people. Plain and simple.

There's 3.5 million Muslim people living here now 99% of which you never hear any problems from. Of course you ignore the 99% when you're generalizing about American Muslims.

[Pavlov]

One of the biggest *ding*s in ST history tbh.

[Monostradamus]

Yeah I see how your analogy works...

Good :tu

[pgardn]

Yet liberals are crying that we don't embrace the Islamic culture.

You think women get treated poorly in the US, at least Moore didn't throw acid in her face and mutilate her genitalia, or maybe even have all his brothers rape her and have her imprisoned and shot for being a whore.

Embrace?

I Think it's called tolerate.

Yeah and the acid raping thing is a decreed standard for Muslims... Sure. This often takes place with Mulims who are US citizens.
conservative Jews put women off in another room and basically do the same treatment as a subclass. Strict Christians take the man as the head of the household to extremes as well. I have been to a number of Christian weddings where the vows sounded like the woman was ready to be sold into slavery. Judeo-Christians presented the idea of individual rights and Liberty but then some emphazied biblical leanings indicating the woman as second class. Kinda like we were blind to our constitution with slaves. Both Strict Muslims and Conservative Jews seem to think men can't control their member therefore the women need to be shuttered off and totally covered. Then blame the women for the slightest of indications of lust or just make shit up. Based on Hollywood, they may have a point I guess.

[pgardn]

According to Sharia law (see links for details):

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38 - includes graphic image).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death (See Compulsion).
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death (see "Islamophobia").
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims are to subjugate the world under Islam (see Quran 9:29 and Palestine Issue).
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.


Yeah I see how your analogy works...

By far the largest number of Muslims live in Indonesia. More than all the other actual Islamic States put together.
This is a secular State and recognizes 5 or 6 different religions.

Next comes Turkey.

So No.

Try again.

[sickdsm]

Fast forward to end of thread and eye discussing Muslims?


How about the fact that the left wing is the same as the right? It's like watching the super bowl and defending the refs when they make a call for your team but trash them when theycall pass interference against the good guys. They only difference between Boutons, ducks, random, chump, and tsa is an R or a D after "your guys" name

[Spurminator]

One of the biggest *ding*s in ST history tbh.

Holy shit, no doubt. They just can't help themselves. Hillary and Muslims.

[DMC]

I see a lot of deflecting. I don't see any answers.

[pgardn]

I see a lot of deflecting. I don't see any answers.

Deflecting...

Treatment of women aaaannnndddd bump to Muslims and the liberal love for them.
okay...

[DMC]

Deflecting...

Treatment of women aaaannnndddd bump to Muslims and the liberal love for them.
okay...
It's not a deflection. If you are so concerned with the treatment of women, show that concern when dealing with snowflake issues like muslim immigration. Don't be so biased about it, that only the GOP folks can be womanizers or pedos. The group you folks want to import have that in their daily regimen.

[boutons_deux]

some good points from Maher, admittedly a friend of Franken

Bill Maher: Al Franken is not like Roy Moore, Kevin Spacey, Donald Trump

The late-night comedian said Franken “did a bad thing” but shouldn’t be “lumped in” with other high-profile figures

said that Franken "did a bad thing" when a picture of him was taken of him "mock-groping" his accuser, radio host, Leeann Tweeden during a USO tour in 2006.

Trump has

called "his accusers liars,

threatened to sue them,

did long riffs at his rallies where he’d say

they were too ugly for him to assault," Maher said.

"Plus, with Al Franken we’re talking about one incident. Trump has 16 accusers, Roy Moore has nine."

"Roy Moore's spent more time chatting up young girls at the mall than Santa Claus."

there should be a separate #MeToo (https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/nothimtoo-metoo-hits-its-next-stage/) campaign in which "I can tell two unlike things apart."

"I know the difference between a man who once acted like a dick and a man who is a dick, me too!"

"I know the difference between someone who behaved like a high schooler and someone who targeted high schoolers, me too!"

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/18/bill-maher-al-franken-is-not-like-roy-moore-kevin-spacey-donald-trump/

pedofile trolls, what say you?

[boutons_deux]

Did Franken actually touch the sleeping beauty?

or was it just a tasteless, juvenile joke posed for the pic?

[Pavlov]

Fast forward to end of thread and eye discussing Muslims?


Holy shit, no doubt. They just can't help themselves. Hillary and Muslims.


Deflecting...

Treatment of women aaaannnndddd bump to Muslims and the liberal love for them.
okay...
The dingiest ding that ever dinged.

[Spurminator]

It's not a deflection. If you are so concerned with the treatment of women, show that concern when dealing with snowflake issues like muslim immigration. Don't be so biased about it, that only the GOP folks can be womanizers or pedos. The group you folks want to import have that in their daily regimen.

As evidenced by the tenets of Sharia Law. :lol

Just stop.

[pgardn]

One of Moore's 14 yo accusers said her mom was proud that a young 30 something yo old lawyer was looking for wife. (After daughter was grabbed) Mom did not know Moore was married. In the context of the time and place one can see how a young girl might be totally befuddled by what was appropriate. But she knew she was horribly uncomfortable and tod not to tell. And so one can see how Moore felt entitled by his surroundings. Mom was " he looking for a wife, oh goody"

It reminds me somewhat of people who look at Nazi Germany and claim they would never have been Nazis. Context and time is important in moral relativism. It's all wrong. This lady did not even understand her own daughter was ashamed of herself. I think Franken should resign. But there are certainly degrees of depravity to be determined by our own sense of fairness and harm done to a victim. And I say this without knowing exactly what determines who should be allowed to represent our country as a Senator.

This is country still does not treat women as equals in rights. But they can vote now. And il bet more women vote based on their husband's preference than the other way around. And we still have tough debates when our children actually have rights to decide certain individual preferences and when parents have the right to shame, spank, embarrass their children.

I understand how people give their own grades. And it's really based on Judeo-Christian concerns of the idea that every individual has been given certain rights by God, non believers as well. (And Despite what Chis thinks)

Yeah.

Horribly biased...

[pgardn]

It's not a deflection. If you are so concerned with the treatment of women, show that concern when dealing with snowflake issues like muslim immigration. Don't be so biased about it, that only the GOP folks can be womanizers or pedos. The group you folks want to import have that in their daily regimen.

Just digging holes.

[AaronY]

This gives me hope if it's true:

931319471557443585

I haven't seen that from the liberals in my feed. But I don't follow that many people. Still doesn't matter unless big names in the party come out and tell him to get out or unless he gets some decency and just steps down

[AaronY]

This gives me hope if true:
931319471557443585

I haven't seen that from the liberals in my feed. But I don't follow that many people. Still doesn't matter unless big names in the party come out and tell him to get out or unless he gets some decency and just steps down


Don't see this at all
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Al%20franken&src=typed_query

Don't know what this guy is talking about

[spurraider21]

I'm atheist, you're not going to bad analogy me into an emotional response.

What predominantly Muslim country shows respect to women in a way you'd approve of?

Muslims in a democracy where laws exist already (not created by Islamic beliefs) means the dilution is acid into water. How do westerners fare in Muslim countries? Do they co-exist peacefully? That's water into acid.
as long as the country is secular, i dont really have concerns

[spurraider21]

Classic whataboutism from 21. It's all he knows. He can't process that Islamic cultures and Western cultures don't mesh. :cry But the peaceful Muslims! :cry It's a fucked up religion for fucked up people. Plain and simple.
:lol whataboutism. you learned a new word but doesnt know what it means

dmc: you cant separate muslims from the bad parts of islam
me: we already have that in the US, a place with millions of muslims
chris: whataboutism!!!

[spurraider21]

It's not a deflection. If you are so concerned with the treatment of women, show that concern when dealing with snowflake issues like muslim immigration. Don't be so biased about it, that only the GOP folks can be womanizers or pedos. The group you folks want to import have that in their daily regimen.
yes. liberals that dont want to curb muslim immigration also without fail support the implementation of sharia law and the legalization of acid attacks

fucking brilliant

[Spurminator]

This gives me hope if it's true:

931319471557443585

I haven't seen that from the liberals in my feed. But I don't follow that many people. Still doesn't matter unless big names in the party come out and tell him to get out or unless he gets done decency and just steps down

I haven't seen any liberals defending him either.

[spurraider21]

I haven't seen any liberals defending him either.
only randomguy

[AaronY]

I haven't seen any liberals defending him either.
I've seen plenty defending him even some slut shaming and attacking the woman sadly. I am talking about telling him to resign which I've seen almost none of despite that guys claims.

[Spurminator]

I've seen plenty defending him even some slut shaming and attacking the woman sadly. I am talking about telling him to resign which I've seen almost none of despite that guys claims.

That's sad. I have probably unfollowed anyone who is that obnoxious of a cheerleader.

[AaronY]

Lmao this bitch chiming in. Holy shit she got some nerve. Of all the people who might wanna sit this one out

931702228695633925

[AaronY]

So cliffs:

Hillary chiming in on Trump and Franken like Bill doesn't exist
Trump chiming in on Franken like his victims don't exist
Feminists in my feed defending Franken like it's no big deal
And religious people and pastors endorsing Roy Moore

[Spurminator]

:cheer

[baseline bum]

Lmao this bitch chiming in. Holy shit she got some nerve. Of all the people who might wanna sit this one out

931702228695633925

Why does she not recognize that everyone else other than her hates her?. It's like when Avante posts on the forum.

[pgardn]

Lmao this bitch chiming in. Holy shit she got some nerve. Of all the people who might wanna sit this one out

931702228695633925

Wow...

This is really gonna help Al.

[DMC]

:lol whataboutism. you learned a new word but doesnt know what it means

dmc: you cant separate muslims from the bad parts of islam
me: we already have that in the US, a place with millions of muslims
chris: whataboutism!!!

Why do you change my words to make your point? Can't you do that without changing them? Of course not. Keep stamping out those form letters, Philo.

[DMC]

yes. liberals that dont want to curb muslim immigration also without fail support the implementation of sharia law and the legalization of acid attacks

fucking brilliant

Everything you say is just a passive aggressive expression of incredulity without offering your take. You don't have a take. Not sure you've lived long enough away from mom and dad to know anything.

[DMC]

Embrace?

I Think it's called tolerate.

Yeah and the acid raping thing is a decreed standard for Muslims... Sure. This often takes place with Mulims who are US citizens.
conservative Jews put women off in another room and basically do the same treatment as a subclass. Strict Christians take the man as the head of the household to extremes as well. I have been to a number of Christian weddings where the vows sounded like the woman was ready to be sold into slavery. Judeo-Christians presented the idea of individual rights and Liberty but then some emphazied biblical leanings indicating the woman as second class. Kinda like we were blind to our constitution with slaves. Both Strict Muslims and Conservative Jews seem to think men can't control their member therefore the women need to be shuttered off and totally covered. Then blame the women for the slightest of indications of lust or just make shit up. Based on Hollywood, they may have a point I guess.

Because Christian morality is on par with Islamic morality.

Are you really this fucking stupid?

[spurraider21]

Why do you change my words to make your point? Can't you do that without changing them? Of course not. Keep stamping out those form letters, Philo.


Do you think you can separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks?
we have islamic folks in the US who dont practice sharia. that answers your question.

im expecting a response about :cry passive-aggressive :cry or my career. that's your go-to any time i answer a question and you're out of rebuttals. you never disappoint

[Will Hunting]

So cliffs:

Hillary chiming in on Trump and Franken like Bill doesn't exist
Trump chiming in on Franken like his victims don't exist
Feminists in my feed defending Franken like it's no big deal
And religious people and pastors endorsing Roy Moore
Basically all signs of how partisan politics drives this country.

[Will Hunting]

Why does she not recognize that everyone else other than her hates her?. It's like when Avante posts on the forum.
:lol that’s actually a great comparison.

[Spurminator]

One of the fundamental differences between bring a liberal and being a tribal white nationalist bigot is that liberals reject immoral actions of the individual instead of rejecting swaths of people who share cultural traits with immoral people. Your premise depends on the idea that Muslim immigrants are generically incapable of progressive behavior. So it's a ridiculous comparison to concern over sexual harassment, because no one is suggesting men are incapable of avoiding that behavior or that we should limit the influx of males into the country in order to curb sex crimes (or any other male-dominated crime for that matter.).

It's intellectually lazy tribalistic nonsense and it's no excuse for anyone with greater than a 5th grade reading level, tbh.

[DMC]

we have islamic folks in the US who dont practice sharia. that answers your question.

im expecting a response about :cry passive-aggressive :cry or my career. that's your go-to any time i answer a question and you're out of rebuttals. you never disappoint

Why did you change my wording? That was the question.

[DMC]

Politics is a business, though it shouldn't be. If you consider it a business, you can understand why those in politics defend their own even in similar situations where they chastised the opponent. It creates the image that they have no real moral or ethical code outside of the business of staying in business.

[DMC]

One of the fundamental differences between bring a liberal and being a tribal white nationalist bigot is that liberals reject immoral actions of the individual instead of rejecting swaths of people who share cultural traits with immoral people. Your premise depends on the idea that Muslim immigrants are generically incapable of progressive behavior. So it's a ridiculous comparison to concern over sexual harassment, because no one is suggesting men are incapable of avoiding that behavior or that we should limit the influx of males into the country in order to curb sex crimes (or any other male-dominated crime for that matter.).

It's intellectually lazy tribalistic nonsense and it's no excuse for anyone with greater than a 5th grade reading level, tbh.

You act like "muslim" is a race, not a core belief system.

Liberals reject swaths of conservatives as "a basket of deplorables" and you have no problem rejecting Christians. You'll also probably not be very pleased when you begin to realize that muslims aren't liberals.

[sickdsm]

One of the fundamental differences between bring a liberal and being a tribal white nationalist bigot is that liberals reject immoral actions of the individual instead of rejecting swaths of people who share cultural traits with immoral people. Your premise depends on the idea that Muslim immigrants are generically incapable of progressive behavior. So it's a ridiculous comparison to concern over sexual harassment, because no one is suggesting men are incapable of avoiding that behavior or that we should limit the influx of males into the country in order to curb sex crimes (or any other male-dominated crime for that matter.).

It's intellectually lazy tribalistic nonsense and it's no excuse for anyone with greater than a 5th grade reading level, tbh.
You mean like the posts on my Facebook feed and on this forum saying better look out for the white male because he's more likely to be a terrorist? Hmmmm

[Spurminator]

You mean like the posts on my Facebook feed and on this forum saying better look out for the white male because he's more likely to be a terrorist? Hmmmm

I don't know your Facebook friends but that is generally a response to common generalizations of any non-white shooter. Seems kind of snowflakey to take it literally. White men are in no immediate danger of being profiled.

[Spurminator]

You act like "muslim" is a race, not a core belief system.

Liberals reject swaths of conservatives as "a basket of deplorables" and you have no problem rejecting Christians. You'll also probably not be very pleased when you begin to realize that muslims aren't liberals.

I'm fully aware it's not a race. I'm not the one suggesting Sharia Law is fundamental to their belief system. No liberal that I know of has suggested banning conservatives or Christians from immigrating to the US. Criticism of a belief system is a far cry from legislating that they be kept out of the country.

And while I don't care if most muslims aren't liberal, I haven't met a whole lot of politically conservative-leaning ones in my experience. Generally they live their beliefs for themselves and accept that those around then may live differently. Something a lot of Christians could learn from.

[Chris]

:lol whataboutism. you learned a new word but doesnt know what it means

dmc: you cant separate muslims from the bad parts of islam
me: we already have that in the US, a place with millions of muslims
chris: whataboutism!!!

Love how you edited the Christian part out of the post. Makes your argument seem credible. surface21

[sickdsm]

I don't know your Facebook friends but that is generally a response to common generalizations of any non-white shooter. Seems kind of snowflakey to take it literally. White men are in no immediate danger of being profiled.

Disproving your statement neither shows agreement nor displeasure at the blowback from terrorism. Nice broad stroke you justpainted while trying to show how liberalism doesn't paint broad strokes.

[DMC]

I'm fully aware it's not a race. I'm not the one suggesting Sharia Law is fundamental to their belief system. No liberal that I know of has suggested banning conservatives or Christians from immigrating to the US. Criticism of a belief system is a far cry from legislating that they be kept out of the country.

And while I don't care if most muslims aren't liberal, I haven't met a whole lot of politically conservative-leaning ones in my experience. Generally they live their beliefs for themselves and accept that those around then may live differently. Something a lot of Christians could learn from.

What if the belief system is that their edict from Allah is to kill the infidel? You're the infidel.

[Chris]

You will make a terrific lawyer with those tactics:tu srs

[DMC]

I'm fully aware it's not a race. I'm not the one suggesting Sharia Law is fundamental to their belief system. No liberal that I know of has suggested banning conservatives or Christians from immigrating to the US. Criticism of a belief system is a far cry from legislating that they be kept out of the country.

And while I don't care if most muslims aren't liberal, I haven't met a whole lot of politically conservative-leaning ones in my experience. Generally they live their beliefs for themselves and accept that those around then may live differently. Something a lot of Christians could learn from.

Muslims are more in line with Christians as far as conservatism goes. They don't allow "anything goes", so you need to consider your bedfellows before you sack up.

[DMC]

we have islamic folks in the US who dont practice sharia. that answers your question.

im expecting a response about :cry passive-aggressive :cry or my career. that's your go-to any time i answer a question and you're out of rebuttals. you never disappoint

You just proved I said "you can't separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks" yet you paraphrased me as saying "you can't separate muslims from the bad parts of Islam". Why did you feel the need to rephrase that into something you could more easily attack? Do you consider Islamic culture to be the bad parts of Islam? Did you know bad parts of a belief system are still parts of a belief system?

[koriwhat]

:lol as if the culture exists separate from the people who created it


Classic whataboutism from 21. It's all he knows. He can't process that Islamic cultures and Western cultures don't mesh. :cry But the peaceful Muslims! :cry It's a fucked up religion for fucked up people. Plain and simple.

ship their asses back already and those citizens that can't comprehend that they're letting in a trojan horse.



They only difference between Boutons, ducks, random, chump, and tsa is an R or a D after "your guys" name

awesome take!



The group you folks want to import have that in their daily regimen.

yep.



Did Franken actually touch the sleeping beauty? or was it just a tasteless, juvenile joke posed for the pic?

excuses... btw, last time i checked, franken ain't no juvenile kid.



One of the fundamental differences between bring a liberal and being a tribal white nationalist bigot is that liberals reject immoral actions of the individual instead of rejecting swaths of people who share cultural traits with immoral people. Your premise depends on the idea that Muslim immigrants are generically incapable of progressive behavior. So it's a ridiculous comparison to concern over sexual harassment, because no one is suggesting men are incapable of avoiding that behavior or that we should limit the influx of males into the country in order to curb sex crimes (or any other male-dominated crime for that matter.).

It's intellectually lazy tribalistic nonsense and it's no excuse for anyone with greater than a 5th grade reading level, tbh.

name calling gets you nowhere. truth of the matter is the fact that libs believe in this utopia that never will be. coexist like that stupid ass bumper sticker isn't a realistic option so stop believing it is. fucking close the borders and let dubai and the rest of the ME take in their own crap.

[spurraider21]

You just proved I said "you can't separate Islamic culture from Islamic folks" yet you paraphrased me as saying "you can't separate muslims from the bad parts of Islam". Why did you feel the need to rephrase that into something you could more easily attack? Do you consider Islamic culture to be the bad parts of Islam? Did you know bad parts of a belief system are still parts of a belief system?
Can you separate Christians from the belief of selling disobedient daughters into slavery? This line of reasoning you're on goes nowhere fast

[spurraider21]

Totally "neither left nor right" koriwhat continuing his crusade of only criticizing liberals :lol

[koriwhat]

Totally "neither left nor right" koriwhat continuing his crusade of only criticizing liberals :lol

do you not understand how much i hate the liberal ideology yet or does it fly right over your head? what's not to get? and why do i have to say something bad about the other side to prove a point that your side sucks too but in my mind, way way worse and mentally fragile.

[DMC]

Can you separate Christians from the belief of selling disobedient daughters into slavery? This line of reasoning you're on goes nowhere fast

You're still not answering the question.

When you can show me a Christian society anywhere in the world that follows the OT law, I'll be up for debating it.

[Quadzilla99]

Love how you edited the Christian part out of the post. Makes your argument seem credible. surface21

By calling him surface21 is your position that you have deep, complex, thoughtful positions and takes?

[spurraider21]

You're still not answering the question.

When you can show me a Christian society anywhere in the world that follows the OT law, I'll be up for debating it.
They don't. Nobody is advocating for bringing in sharia law when they advocate not discriminating against Muslim immigrants. It's a shitty straw man you're trying to build. You keep painting it as some inevitability. It's just a boogeyman

I think Christians following OT law would be bad. I think Muslims following sharia law would be bad. Both Christians and Muslims have shown capable of discarding both while living in the us. I don't see that changing

You keep trying to equate tolerating Muslim immigrants with tolerating every shitty policy from their countries of origin. It's a shitty argument and it's going to get called out every time no matter how many times you repeat it combined with some complaint about :cry passive aggressive :cry or :cry shitty lawyer :cry

[spurraider21]

do you not understand how much i hate the liberal ideology yet or does it fly right over your head? what's not to get?
No, you've made that part painfully clear

[koriwhat]

No, you've made that part painfully clear

well at least you comprehend something for once.

[koriwhat]

You keep trying to equate tolerating Muslim immigrants with tolerating every shitty policy from their countries of origin. It's a shitty argument...

i'm right there with dmc on this subject. wolf in sheeps clothing... trojan horse... and those that are blind to it all because they're oh so liberal, open, accepting, PC, and delusional.

[DMC]

They don't. Nobody is advocating for bringing in sharia law when they advocate not discriminating against Muslim immigrants. It's a shitty straw man you're trying to build. You keep painting it as some inevitability. It's just a boogeyman

Do you even know what sharia law means?

From Snopes.com

"In sum, Sharia is a faith-based code of conduct that is inseparable from the practice of Islam, yet open to interpretation, adaptable, and responsive to the needs of 2 billion adherents worldwide. Far from presenting an abstract, looming threat to American freedom, it is an integral part of the lives of the some 3.3 million Muslims who call the United States their home."

And you think Muslims don't want sharia?

:lol


I think Christians following OT law would be bad. I think Muslims following sharia law would be bad. Both Christians and Muslims have shown capable of discarding both while living in the us. I don't see that changing


:lol "while living in the US" as if Christians were following OT laws until their plane landed at JFK. Nice attempt at equating the two... but no.

By definition, Christians don't follow the old covenant, but the New Testament. Again, show me a Chrisitan society that follows the old teachings you refer to as Christian beliefs and we can debate it. Otherwise you're just using a diversion and ignoring it when the truth is thrown back at you (like you've ignored the question regarding you changing my words to suit your narrative).


You keep trying to equate tolerating Muslim immigrants with tolerating every shitty policy from their countries of origin. It's a shitty argument and it's going to get called out every time no matter how many times you repeat it combined with some complaint about :cry passive aggressive :cry or :cry shitty lawyer :cry

Calling it shitty doesn't illustrate just how you can separate sharia from Muslims. I'm still waiting for that. Surely you have the ability to argue better than you are currently arguing. I mean, as a lawyer and all.

[spurraider21]

Do you even know what sharia law means?

From Snopes.com

"In sum, Sharia is a faith-based code of conduct that is inseparable from the practice of Islam, yet open to interpretation, adaptable, and responsive to the needs of 2 billion adherents worldwide. Far from presenting an abstract, looming threat to American freedom, it is an integral part of the lives of the some 3.3 million Muslims who call the United States their home."

And you think Muslims don't want sharia?

:lol

By definition, Christians don't follow the old covenant, but the New Testament. Again, show me a Chrisitan society that follows the old teachings you refer to as Christian beliefs and we can debate it. Otherwise you're just using a diversion and ignoring it when the truth is thrown back at you (like you've ignored the question regarding you changing my words to suit your narrative).


Calling it shitty doesn't illustrate just how you can separate sharia from Muslims. I'm still waiting for that. Surely you have the ability to argue better than you are currently arguing. I mean, as a lawyer and all.
There are millions of Muslims in the US. They don't practice sharia. There's my explanation of how they can be separated. Proof is in the pudding.

[boutons_deux]

There are millions of Muslims in the US.

6 million

[pgardn]

Because Christian morality is on par with Islamic morality.

Are you really this fucking stupid?

I don't judge that fucktard.
All I know is I prefer the Judeo Christian way. As I was brought up this way.

I am saying all of these ways have vestiges and even current aspects which put women second class. Another deflection. Especially after your labeling of me as a liberal Muslim lover when discussing Al Franken. You just got ticketed for veering wildly off the road.
Toad.

So let me digress and veer and ask why people are fascinated with your hands?

[DMC]

There are millions of Muslims in the US. They don't practice sharia. There's my explanation of how they can be separated. Proof is in the pudding.

Muslims don't have to practice sharia. It's part of their belief. You can say they don't interpret it the same way, but saying they don't practice it is like saying Christians don't practice Christianity.

[DMC]

I don't judge that fucktard.
All I know is I prefer the Judeo Christian way. As I was brought up this way.

I am saying all of these ways have vestiges and even current aspects which put women second class. Another deflection. Especially after your labeling of me as a liberal Muslim lover when discussing Al Franken. You just got ticketed for veering wildly off the road.
Toad.

So let me digress and veer and ask why people are fascinated with your hands?

My hands are warm and reassuring.

[spurraider21]

Muslims don't have to practice sharia. It's part of their belief. You can say they don't interpret it the same way, but saying they don't practice it is like saying Christians don't practice Christianity.
you already defined your ooga-booga boogyeman

According to Sharia law (see links for details):

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38 - includes graphic image).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death (See Compulsion).
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death (see "Islamophobia").
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims are to subjugate the world under Islam (see Quran 9:29 and Palestine Issue).
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.


Yeah I see how your analogy works...
the millions of muslims in america dont do that

[spurraider21]

this all stems from your moronic take that liberals being ok with muslim immigration is equal endorsing the backwards laws of their countries of origin

[DMC]

you already defined your ooga-booga boogyeman

the millions of muslims in america dont do that

Because it's illegal.

[Spurminator]

Disproving your statement neither shows agreement nor displeasure at the blowback from terrorism. Nice broad stroke you justpainted while trying to show how liberalism doesn't paint broad strokes.

You're angry and you're not making sense.

Don't take sarcastic comments about white men seriously. They're not talking about you.

[DMC]

this all stems from your moronic take that liberals being ok with muslim immigration is equal endorsing the backwards laws of their countries of origin

You've yet to counter with anything intelligent, opting instead to change my wording so you can create a caricature of my actual take.

If you let a child molester in your home, knowing he's a child molester, you're endorsing him whether you like it or not. "But he doesn't practice child molesting since he left his own home"

[Chris]

By calling him surface21 is your position that you have deep, complex, thoughtful positions and takes?

That's certainly your perspective isn't it? 21 is highly intelligent but tends to take a myopic point of view on certain topics when it conflicts with his programming.

[Spurminator]

What if the belief system is that their edict from Allah is to kill the infidel? You're the infidel.


Muslims are more in line with Christians as far as conservatism goes. They don't allow "anything goes", so you need to consider your bedfellows before you sack up.

I think you would do well to get out of your bunker sometime and meet some Muslims. Your characterization is cartoonishly ignorant.

[DMC]

You're angry and you're not making sense.

Don't take sarcastic comments about white men seriously. They're not talking about you.
:lol "you're angry"
:lol "racism is bad"
:lol "white devils!"

Adam Lambert just rolled over in his grave

[Spurminator]

Never even occurs to you guys that immigrating Muslims may want to live in a place where it's not so fundamentalist. You see them as coming here to change America when it's usually because they want to be American.

[CosmicCowboy]

this all stems from your moronic take that liberals being ok with muslim immigration is equal endorsing the backwards laws of their countries of origin
Its,not the laws of their country of their origin, its their core belief system. A catholic from the US and a catholic from anywhere else in the world still have the same core belief system.

[DMC]

Never even occurs to you guys that immigrating Muslims may want to live in a place where it's not so fundamentalist. You see them as coming here to change America when it's usually because they want to be American.

Do you even understand anything about Islam?

[Spurminator]

Do you even understand anything about Islam?

I understand plenty about Islam, and about the tendencies of every religious group to be made up of countless different interpretations. You think you have some kind of manual that tells you how every Muslim behaves but it's no better a predictor than the Bible is about Christians.

Like I said. Talk to a Muslim sometime. Be more of a people person instead of thinking you can understand human nature by reading about it.

[spurraider21]

Its,not the laws of their country of their origin, its their core belief system. A catholic from the US and a catholic from anywhere else in the world still have the same core belief system.
so do you think allowing muslims to immigrate here is tolerating the stoning of whores?

[Spurminator]

You've yet to counter with anything intelligent, opting instead to change my wording so you can create a caricature of my actual take.

If you let a child molester in your home, knowing he's a child molester, you're endorsing him whether you like it or not. "But he doesn't practice child molesting since he left his own home"

I missed this gem. Who's talking about letting people with criminal history into the country?

You have the most idiotic analogies.

[pgardn]

Its,not the laws of their country of their origin, its their core belief system. A catholic from the US and a catholic from anywhere else in the world still have the same core belief system.

We have an Old Testament.
It's not a kind document. At all.

Some Christians go Old Testament when convenient, some stick to the New Testament for almost everything.

[Chucho]

We have an Old Testament.
It's not a kind document. At all.

Some Christians go Old Testament when convenient, some stick to the New Testament for almost everything.

Good analogy.

[DMC]

I missed this gem. Who's talking about letting people with criminal history into the country?

You have the most idiotic analogies.

How the fuck do you know their histories? Do you think the DOJ rules the world?

[DMC]

We have an Old Testament.
It's not a kind document. At all.

Some Christians go Old Testament when convenient, some stick to the New Testament for almost everything.

So you're saying there are large groups, hundreds of thousands of Christians who adhere to the old testament, just like there are at least that many Muslims who follow a strict version of sharia? Or are you saying they refer to the OT in a debate? Because there's some slight differences between pushing faggots off rooftops, shooting women in the head on soccer fields and the cosmological argument. Very slight, but it's there.

[Spurminator]

How the fuck do you know their histories? Do you think the DOJ rules the world?

Your idiotic analogy specifically said "knowing he's a child molester." So do you want to revise the analogy?

[pgardn]

So you're saying there are large groups, hundreds of thousands of Christians who adhere to the old testament, just like there are at least that many Muslims who follow a strict version of sharia? Or are you saying they refer to the OT in a debate? Because there's some slight differences between pushing faggots off rooftops, shooting women in the head on soccer fields and the cosmological argument. Very slight, but it's there.


You clearly don't know the history of Christianity.
Yes. There were. And there could be again depending on how repressed people feel.

[Pavlov]

Because it's illegal.Problem's already solved then.

That was easy.

[koriwhat]

here's a real question for libs... why so hard up to bring all these "refugees" here from the M.E.? fuck em', let their rich oil kings and princes take care of them back home and not here.

[DMC]

Problem's already solved then.

That was easy.

Doesn't mean they don't believe it should be done, that they don't believe a caliphate should exist, that sharia law isn't the goal. They just know they don't currently have enough people to make it happen.

Then again, you never know anything about the subject, you're a quip bot

[DMC]

You clearly don't know the history of Christianity.
Yes. There were. And there could be again depending on how repressed people feel.

I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.

This history you're referring to, does it include a current Christian society that practices the OT laws?

By chance?

Because that was my question.

[Pavlov]

Doesn't mean they don't believe it should be done, that they don't believe a caliphate should exist, that sharia law isn't the goal. They just know they don't currently have enough people to make it happen.

Then again, you never know anything about the subject, you're a quip botAll I know is you proved the problem is already solved.

It's illegal.

It isn't often we solve problems on this board. Turns out we didn't even have to.

[DMC]

All I know is you proved the problem is already solved.

It's illegal.

It isn't often we solve problems on this board. Turns out we didn't even have to.

So then since mass shootings are illegal, they should never happen.

The three paragraphs you quoted aren't connected, at all, like you and your social life.

[Pavlov]

So then since mass shootings are illegal, they should never happen.OK, show me your most likely scenario in which the Muslims make sharia law the law of the United States.

I'll read it.

[DMC]

OK, show me your most likely scenario in which the Muslims make sharia law the law of the United States.

I'll read it.

:lol no, I'm not showing you anything, buttercup.

[sickdsm]

You're angry and you're not making sense.

Don't take sarcastic comments about white men seriously. They're not talking about you.

I'll dumb it down for you.

You: Liberals blame the action of the individual, not the broad spectrum of the race/religion/sex/etc.

Me: Here's an example where its obvious on ST and also my facebook feed that you're wrong.

You: Don't be salty. I don't know your friends and i can't understand what you mean. Oh and since i won't acknowledge your example, I'm going to say your mad about a racial comment.

[Pavlov]

:lol no, I'm not showing you anything, buttercup.:lol Didn't think you could come up with anything tbh. Couldn't even make anything up.

Problem already solved.

[DMC]

Your idiotic analogy specifically said "knowing he's a child molester." So do you want to revise the analogy?

Of course. You know muslims adhere to sharia law. Knowing that you still let them in but say "they will abandon it once they get here because deep down they all just need a good moral crusade against their beliefs, to accept our secular ways"

Don't be dense, asshole.

[Spurminator]

I'll dumb it down for you.

You: Liberals blame the action of the individual, not the broad spectrum of the race/religion/sex/etc.

Me: Here's an example where its obvious on ST and also my facebook feed that you're wrong.

You: Don't be salty. I don't know your friends and i can't understand what you mean. Oh and since i won't acknowledge your example, I'm going to say your mad about a racial comment.

That's not your friends blaming white men. That's them making fun of blaming violence on a race of people. How hard is that to understand?

[Spurminator]

Of course. You know muslims adhere to sharia law. Knowing that you still let them in but say "they will abandon it once they get here because deep down they all just need a good moral crusade against their beliefs, to accept our secular ways"

Don't be dense, asshole.

Yeah and you probably adhere to jerking yourself off with a thumb up your ass but I'm not going to assume you'd force a hand job on someone if you stayed at his house.

Again, this could all be cleared up by talking to a Muslim. Ask them about Sharia. You look incredibly ignorant right now and it's obvious the only things you know about Muslims are ridiculous cliff notes you've read on World Net Daily or wherever.

[DMC]

Yeah and you probably adhere to jerking yourself off with a thumb up your ass but I'm not going to assume you'd force a hand job on someone if you stayed at his house.

That's real cute, makes you seem edgy and streetwise even though you're a liberal pussy who needs an alt for an alt just to speak his mind anonymously on a forum no one gives 2 shits about.


Again, this could all be cleared up by talking to a Muslim. Ask them about Sharia. You look incredibly ignorant right now and it's obvious the only things you know about Muslims are ridiculous cliff notes you've read on World Net Daily or wherever.

So Christianity can all be cleared up by talking to a Christian.

Again, it's not a race, dipshit. One could become Muslim overnight.

[spurraider21]

One could become Muslim overnight.
Be careful. You might be next!

[Blake]

Of course. You know muslims adhere to sharia law. Knowing that you still let them in but say "they will abandon it once they get here because deep down they all just need a good moral crusade against their beliefs, to accept our secular ways"

Don't be dense, asshole.

Yah, you do know there are already Muslims here America, right?

[Reck]

That's real cute, makes you seem edgy and streetwise even though you're a liberal pussy who needs an alt for an alt just to speak his mind anonymously on a forum no one gives 2 shits about.

:lol But you do care, fattie. You live for random internet cred, it's all you do here.

These arguments haven't been going your way tonight so suddenly, who cares about anything. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Jews follow Jewish law

Christians tithe 10% to grifter pastors, Christ told them to bomb the shit out of Muslim countries, believe the Bible is the only law of the land, and pass secular laws to force Christianity on non-Christians.

[pgardn]

I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.

This history you're referring to, does it include a current Christian society that practices the OT laws?

By chance?

Because that was my question.

You understand exactly what I am saying. You are trying to blame a book and a set of laws on outrageous behavior when in fact it's much more complex than that. Go ask Boots to explain Christians to you, it's more to your level of thinking. Then have him explain why you feel all safey and cuddly from stopping Big Brother with your guns.

[sickdsm]

That's not your friends blaming white men. That's them making fun of blaming violence on a race of people. How hard is that to understand?

Again. Painting a broad stroke. Not sure if consider anyone in ST a "friend"


Not blaming white people but a race instead. Isn't that what you JUST said liberals don't do? Here's a hint. Trill and the gang weren't raising funds for Jeb or Cruz this last year.

[sickdsm]

Jews follow Jewish law

Christians tithe 10% to grifter pastors, Christ told them to bomb the shit out of Muslim countries, believe the Bible is the only law of the land, and pass secular laws to force Christianity on non-Christians.

Again. Liberal blaming a wide swath instead the individual.


Most Christians don't give anywhere near10% let alone any of that other stuff.

[Will Hunting]

It doesn’t have to be 10%, giving any money to your pastors tax-free Ferrari fund is retarded :lol

[Spurminator]

That's real cute, makes you seem edgy and streetwise even though you're a liberal pussy who needs an alt for an alt just to speak his mind anonymously on a forum no one gives 2 shits about.


So Christianity can all be cleared up by talking to a Christian.

Again, it's not a race, dipshit. One could become Muslim overnight.

Generally, yes, you'll understand more about how everyday Christians think than you would by reading internet articles about Christians, particularly if the source tends to fear-monger about Christians.

I'm not sure why you keep suggesting my position treats Muslims as a race and not followers of a religion, but I'm assuming it's another redirect attempt.

:lol alt smack.
:lol shook

[Spurminator]

Again. Painting a broad stroke. Not sure if consider anyone in ST a "friend"


Not blaming white people but a race instead. Isn't that what you JUST said liberals don't do? Here's a hint. Trill and the gang weren't raising funds for Jeb or Cruz this last year.

It's mockery of broad stroke painting. It's irony. And it's obviously over your head.

I never necessarily took you for one of the racial generalists here. Now I'm second guessing that given your sensitivity about obvious irony. It is funny how Trill gets you guys worked up by using your own tendencies against you.

[DMC]

Be careful. You might be next!

I'd issue a fatwah on your ass right away.

[DMC]

Yah, you do know there are already Muslims here America, right?

Of course. A few of them flew planes into the World Trade Center because they were trying to assimilate.

I'm not against Muslims. I'm against allowing random assholes from Muslim countries to pour into the US unchecked.

I happen to think all theistic religions are bullshit. Some are less caustic than others.

[DMC]

:lol But you do care, fattie. You live for random internet cred, it's all you do here.

These arguments haven't been going your way tonight so suddenly, who cares about anything. :lol

Says Shadowflames, Reck, Restless.. whatever other transitioning name you can come up with.

You still think Hillary is going to win?

[Will Hunting]

Idk why anyone is trying to argue otherwise but puberty has always been what draws the line between pedophilia and good old statutory rape.

What Roy Moore did was wrong either way though.

[Reck]

Says Shadowflames, Reck, Restless.. whatever other transitioning name you can come up with.

You still think Hillary is going to win?

Win what?

Maybe you should stop thinking about Hillary so much and concentrate on a new shtick.

[DMC]

You understand exactly what I am saying. You are trying to blame a book and a set of laws on outrageous behavior when in fact it's much more complex than that. Go ask Boots to explain Christians to you, it's more to your level of thinking. Then have him explain why you feel all safey and cuddly from stopping Big Brother with your guns.

I beg to differ, sir. We started a game we didn't get to finish. Christian history, remember?

Say when.

[DMC]

Win what?

Maybe you should stop thinking about Hillary so much and concentrate on a new shtick.

Maybe you should have stopped thinking about Hillary, you might have a candidate in the WH.

Now you're sore and stove up like an old opossum.

It's unbecoming of a tranny.

[Reck]

Maybe you should have stopped thinking about Hillary, you might have a candidate in the WH.

Now you're sore and stove up like an old opossum.

It's unbecoming of a tranny.

Yet somehow 11 months in, you're still talking about her? Rent free much?

You project a lot. I suggest you live your life indepedent of what others do. If that means having your pervasive fantasies and being a pedo sympathizer, so be it, fattie. I care not.

[DMC]

Yet somehow 11 months in, you're still talking about her? Rent free much?

You project a lot. I suggest you live your life indepedent of what others do. If that means having your pervasive fantasies and being a pedo sympathizer, so be it, fattie. I care not.

No, I'm talking about you.

Do you still think she's going to win?

Have you started lactating yet?

[koriwhat]

Maybe you should have stopped thinking about Hillary, you might have a candidate in the WH.

mic drop lmao

[boutons_deux]

Fox News’ Kurtz on Media ‘Resurrecting’ Trump Allegations:

We Had an Election and ‘He Won’ :lol

Kurtz said this today about the media bringing up Trump’s accusers:

“What about news organizations––you’ve seen this more in the last 48 hours, Michael––

who are now resurrecting the sexual harassment allegations made against Donald Trump as a candidate, after the Access Hollywood tape came out?

Why resurrect that story, :lol

which was––he’s denied it, :lol

he’s called these women horrible liars.:lol

There’s certainly a debate about whether they should be believed, :lol

there’s about a dozen of them. :lol 16! :lol

But we had an election after that and he won.” :lol


The Daily Beast‘s Michael Tomasky said Trump “opened the door” with his Franken tweet.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-kurtz-on-media-resurrecting-trump-allegations-we-had-an-election-and-he-won/

With 10Ms of old white people believing Fox as Biblically TRUE, America is fucked and unfuckable

[Spurtacular]

Democratic senator apologizes to her for a THIRD time


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5092825/Al-Franken-accuser-Grope-photo-face-insult.html#ixzz4yul7REwP


:lmao Daily Mail
:lmao He apologized three times; what's the fuss?
:lmao A CAPS LOCKED word in the title for Al

[Spurtacular]

Have you started lactating yet?

:lmao
Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) 'ed

[Reck]

:lmao
Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) 'ed

That non answer tho.

Self exposed pedo man. :lol

[Pavlov]

Democratic senator apologizes to her for a THIRD time


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5092825/Al-Franken-accuser-Grope-photo-face-insult.html#ixzz4yul7REwP


:lmao Daily Mail
:lmao He apologized three times; what's the fuss?
:lmao A CAPS LOCKED word in the title for AlYou've never read a Daily Mail headline before.

[Spurtacular]

Never even occurs to you guys that immigrating Muslims may want to live in a place where it's not so fundamentalist. You see them as coming here to change America when it's usually because they want to be American.


Do you even understand anything about Islam?


I understand plenty about Islam, and about the tendencies of every religious group to be made up of countless different interpretations. You think you have some kind of manual that tells you how every Muslim behaves but it's no better a predictor than the Bible is about Christians.

Like I said. Talk to a Muslim sometime. Be more of a people person instead of thinking you can understand human nature by reading about it.

:lmao

Spurminator: Stop relying on facts and be a man of the people like me. A Muslim once told me they're good people.

[Spurtacular]

You've never read a Daily Mail headline before.

#RetardFail

[Reck]

You've never read a Daily Mail headline before.

I dont know why he got all excited for.

He should be used to all caps. Breitbart is all about all caps.

[Pavlov]

#RetardFaillol getting excited over Daily Mail caps lock.

[Spurtacular]

lol getting excited over Daily Mail caps lock.

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?

[Pavlov]

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?
Dry brush your skin, ditch sugar-free sweeteners and slow down your eating: The SIX simple things you can do right now to drastically improve your gut healthSix!

[boutons_deux]

Analysis: Jake Tapper's Interview with Sen. Franken's Accuser - Sorry, But... No. (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716419/-Analysis-Jake-Tapper-s-Interview-with-Sen-Franken-s-Accuser-Sorry-But-No)

I’m going to forgo all the political issues I have with her accusation—such as

Roger Stone knowing this was going to be announced the night before (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716270/-Roger-Stone-Knew-Franken-Was-About-To-Get-Blasted) it was and

Sean Hannity a little too conveniently backing down from his 24-hour ultimatum to Roy Moore just prior—and

focus solely on the interview itself.

The longer the interview carried on and the more genuine her reactions became, the harder it was to dismiss her story as an outright lie.

Ms. Tweeden brought up a great point and it’s one not to be overlooked:

she basically said it was very possible that Franken—and men in general—maybe don’t understand when he/they are making a woman uncomfortable:

I do agree with her sentiment that this country needs some serious consciousness raising when it comes to male/female dynamics.

The thing is, though… we need it on both sides.

Men need to be more aware of their behavior and women need to be more willing to point uncomfortable actions and situations out to them.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716419/-Analysis-Jake-Tapper-s-Interview-with-Sen-Franken-s-Accuser-Sorry-But-No

Trash and all y'all Trash fellators "defense" of Trash is that Dems are just as bad, what about the Dems?

[Spurtacular]

Six!

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?

[Pavlov]

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?
Victoria's Secret Police! Shanghai fashion show is in CHAOS because 'authorities are closely controlling the event with SPIES even combing emails and stalking models to expel regime critics'Chaos!

Spies!

[Spurtacular]

Chaos!

Spies!

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?

I ask for the THIRD time.

[Pavlov]

Why did it need to be caps locked? For what purpose?

I ask for the THIRD time.Same reason as this.

Working it out! Ivanka Trump leaves her DC home to hit the gym after being mercilessly mocked online for the giant CLAM stuffed with driftwood and moss her brand recommended as a Thanksgiving decorationClam!

[Spurtacular]

Same reason as this.
Clam!

So, you're making my point. They wanted to focus on something.

#DumbFuck

[Pavlov]

So, you're making my point. They wanted to focus on something.

#DumbFucklol it's the Daily Mail, dude.

They focus on CLAM.

[Spurtacular]

lol it's the Daily Mail, dude.

They focus on CLAM.

Yea, they also focus on stupid shit. Way to hammer my point in, bro. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Yeah, they focus on stupid shit. Way to hammer my point in, bro. :lmao

[Spurminator]

:lmao

Spurminator: Stop relying on facts and be a man of the people like me. A Muslim once told me they're good people.

I have yet to see any facts presented.

I'm sure DMC appreciates your white knighting as always, though.

[Spurminator]

Maybe you should have stopped thinking about Hillary, you might have a candidate in the WH.

Now you're sore and stove up like an old opossum.

It's unbecoming of a tranny.

Moved on to lower hanging fruit and Hillary smack, I guess. What an amateur.

Franken thread >> but Muslims >> lol Hillary

And on and on

[Pavlov]

Moved on to lower hanging fruit and Hillary smack, I guess. What an amateur.

Franken thread >> but Muslims >> lol Hillary

And on and on:lol You'll be the first to be Shariaed when they take over the US.

[Spurtacular]

I have yet to see any facts presented.

I'm sure DMC appreciates your white knighting as always, though.

So, you need DMC to show you how fucked up Islam is b/c you haven't figured it out for yourself?

[Pavlov]

So, you need DMC to show you how fucked up Islam is b/c you haven't figured it out for yourself?Eh, Mormonism is fucked up too but I'm not afraid of their being in the country.

[Spurminator]

So, you need DMC to show you how fucked up Islam is b/c you haven't figured it out for yourself?

Your question is arbitrary, irrelevant to the conversation, and fundamentally stupid. Go back to pedo-shielding, that's more your wheelhouse.

[Spurtacular]

Eh, Mormonism is fucked up too but I'm not afraid of their being in the country.

Well, when Mormonism becomes about subjigating you, call me.

[Spurtacular]

Your question is arbitrary, irrelevant to the conversation, and fundamentally stupid. Go back to pedo-shielding, that's more your wheelhouse.

It hits right at your foundation. You sperm shield for Islam rather than coming to terms with its essence.

[Pavlov]

Well, when Mormonism becomes about subjigating you, call me.Well, when Islam subjugates you, call me.

[Spurtacular]

Well, when Islam subjugates you, call me.

When Mormonism becomes about suicide bombing, call me.

[Spurminator]

It hits right at your foundation. You sperm shield for Islam rather than coming to terms with its essence.

You try hard, but we don't relate at all in this conversation. You might as well just ask why I'm not as prejudiced as you are and then emoji bomb me.

[Pavlov]

When Mormonism becomes about suicide bombing, call me.Hey, you're the ones saying Islam is going to subjugate us if we let a few thousand refugees in the US. None of you say how that would even possibly happen though.

Even DMC ran away from that one.

[Spurtacular]

Hey, you're the ones saying Islam is going to subjugate us if we let a few thousand refugees in the US. None of you say how that would even possibly happen though.

Long term, it's a possibility. It's likely more a matter concerning prodigy. That is what Islam is about, though. There are too many case studies to deny that. In the mean time, the more immediate effects in Western society is ghettoization.

[Pavlov]

Long term, it's a possibility.How?

Walk me through the method by which all the US becomes subject to Sharia law.

And lol Syrian refugee ghettos.

[DMC]

Moved on to lower hanging fruit and Hillary smack, I guess. What an amateur.

Franken thread >> but Muslims >> lol Hillary

And on and on

All three embarrassments to the left.

[Spurtacular]

Even DMC ran away from that one.
DMC

Since you were too chicken to make your call-out official. :lmao

[Pavlov]

DMC

Since you were too chicken to make your call-out official. :lmaoHe was called out last night.

You saw what happened. He is free to post his theory at any time.

[Spurtacular]

How?

Walk me through the method by which all the US becomes subject to Sharia law.




If you have to ask that, then you don't know what Sharia is. Even Muslims don't generally try to make the retarded argument you're making. Some try to say that Sharia is optional.

[DMC]

Hey, you're the ones saying Islam is going to subjugate us if we let a few thousand refugees in the US. None of you say how that would even possibly happen though.

Even DMC ran away from that one.

Subjugate us? No. Kill us? Yes.

[Pavlov]

If you have to ask that, then you don't know what Sharia is. Even Muslims don't generally try to make the retarded argument you're making. Some try to say that Sharia is optional.Ah, so you're shutting down again.

OK.

[DMC]

He was called out last night.

You saw what happened. He is free to post his theory at any time.

With you? :lol no

Pearls before swine and such

[Pavlov]

Subjugate us? No. Kill us? Yes.OK, how will they kill all of us in the US, DMC?

[Pavlov]

With you? :lol no

Pearls before swine and such:lol worst cop out I've ever seen from you tbh.

[Spurtacular]

And lol Syrian refugee ghettos.

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2015/12/dearborn.jpg

[DMC]

OK, how will they kill all of us in the US, DMC?

I don't give a fuck about "all of us".

Just to be clear.

[DMC]

:lol worst cop out I've ever seen from you tbh.

Declining to rodeo for pages with you is a cop out? If so I'm ok with it. :lol

[Spurtacular]

With you? :lol no

Pearls before swine and such


Declining to rodeo for pages with you is a cop out? If so I'm ok with it. :lol

:lmao
Pavlov (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343)

[Chris]

Hey, you're the ones saying Islam is going to subjugate us if we let a few thousand refugees in the US. None of you say how that would even possibly happen though.

Even DMC ran away from that one.

You have blueprints in Sweden and Britain. Ask the citizens there what they think about Islamic 'refugees'.

[Pavlov]

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2015/12/dearborn.jpgDid you fall for the "severed Jesus head" too?

[Pavlov]

Declining to rodeo for pages with you is a cop out? If so I'm ok with it. :lolOf course you're OK with running away from your claim. It's what you people do. :lol

[Pavlov]

You have blueprints in Sweden and Britain. Ask the citizens there what they think about Islamic 'refugees'.If our refugee intake was anything like the EU's, you might have a point.

[DMC]

Of course you're OK with running away from your claim. It's what you people do. :lol

Keep trying to strike up a conversation on this Sunday in November, Chumpy.

Chumpy expects me to ask "which claim" and he'll then start his multi-page shit posting fest.

I'm good. Talk amongst the voices in your head.

[Pavlov]

Keep trying to strike up a conversation on this Sunday in November, Chumpy.

Chumpy expects me to ask "which claim" and he'll then start his multi-page shit posting fest.

I'm good. Talk amongst the voices in your head.I know you're not going to back up your claim, so I don't know why you feel forced to go on about not backing up your claim. If you're good, you wouldn't have to keep telling everyone you're good. :lol

[Spurminator]

All three embarrassments to the left.

Yes, the hyperbolic "they're all coming to convert or murder us" takes from you and Spurtacular are definitely embarrassing to the Left. You keep telling yourself that.

[Spurminator]

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2015/12/dearborn.jpg

Hey DMC, do you want to tell your hype man or should I?

[koriwhat]

all i have to say is fuck those refugees and obamas/hrc/bushs shit globalist plan to take down this country. fuck all those damn ME refugees! fuck em all!

[koriwhat]

lol not the best meme but funny anyhow

https://i.imgur.com/DjgNDLV.jpg

[pgardn]

I beg to differ, sir. We started a game we didn't get to finish. Christian history, remember?

Say when.

Christians are wonderful people, right now.
Muslims are murderous, mind bent, animals, right now.
Its this is easy? No, it's absolute stupidity.

Take your balls and your game and go play by yourself.

[pgardn]

:lol worst cop out I've ever seen from you tbh.

Not even close.

[DMC]

Christians are wonderful people, right now.
Muslims are murderous, mind bent, animals, right now.
Its this is easy? No, it's absolute stupidity.

Take your balls and your game and go play by yourself.

You're trying to equate modern day Islam to Judaism from 3000 years prior to the inception of Christianity really makes you look desperate and stupid. Then you have the gall to tell me I don't understand Christian history. When called out you instead feign disgust and fold up like a lawn chair.

[DMC]

Hey DMC, do you want to tell your hype man or should I?

You two say my name far more often than I say yours, sounds like you have a pretty good relationship going already.

[pgardn]

You're trying to equate modern day Islam to Judaism from 3000 years prior to the inception of Christianity really makes you look desperate and stupid. Then you have the gall to tell me I don't understand Christian history. When called out you instead feign disgust and fold up like a lawn chair.


No im not you fool. You are. You think Christians just dropped the Old Testament after the New Testament? They use/used it as needed.


The crusades did not happen 3000 years ago ya damn Buffoon.
Wtf is wrong with your head? You are so frkn dead wrong. No change to something new so you can grab your balls, and your game and go home a self proclaimed winner.