Dang Al Franken is a gropy creeper too

[AaronY]

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[Chucho]

Oh wow, how'd a picture like that stay buried for so long?

[Spurminator]

He's a douche and I wouldn't be disappointed if he had to resign. Shouldn't have been a candidate in the first place.

The story is much creepier than the picture. I'll be interested to see if this sets off other accusations and shows a pattern of behavior.

[RandomGuy]

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Zoinks. I liked Franken.

[Blake]

Wow. The daily affirmation takes on a brand new context.

[AaronY]

Zoinks. I liked Franken.

Yeah, me too. :depressed He gotta go though obv

Is Minnesota generally Red or Blue? Could we win the special election if he resigns?

[Spurminator]

Yeah, me too. :depressed He gotta go though obv

Is Minnesota generally Red or Blue? Could we win the special election if he resigns?

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[AaronY]

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Oh, good then. Still sucks though. Doesn't pay to have like a political or entertainment hero at this point

[AaronY]

I mean he wasn't really my hero but I thought he was pretty damn funny

[Chucho]

Oh, good then. Still sucks though. Doesn't pay to have like a political or entertainment hero at this point

The political side is a power trip, but a whole lot of what happens in the entertainment field is enabled by the American love for pop culture and sycophancy.

[Spurminator]

He was good for a few zingers and generally contributed more than I thought he would, but he also sort of epitomized elite liberal snobbery. Kind of a Bill Maher Lite.

[Chucho]

He looks like Luis Black a bit.

[RandomGuy]

I mean he wasn't really my hero but I thought he was pretty damn funny

He seems to have come into his own as a Senator. Intelligent, tough, and funny.

[RandomGuy]

He was good for a few zingers and generally contributed more than I thought he would, but he also sort of epitomized elite liberal snobbery. Kind of a Bill Maher Lite.

"elite liberal snobbery" = "I hate smart, educated people, they's with the Devil." :cry

Keep vilifying intelligence and education. See how far that gets your ideology.

[boutons_deux]

He seems to have come into his own as a Senator. Intelligent, tough, and funny.

no softball "questions" from him, unlike the nudge-wink-grin camaraderie that Sessions thinks he deserves from the Senate, like he got down in AL from the Good Ol' Boy racist crowd.

[Pavlov]

Don't think an apology is going to cut it.

[boutons_deux]

Sandy Rios excuses Sessions as just another man, like all (pedofile, sexual predator) men really, with errors in his past.

Will she excuse Franken?

[Spurminator]

"elite liberal snobbery" = "I hate smart, educated people, they's with the Devil." :cry

Keep vilifying intelligence and education. See how far that gets your ideology.

:lol This is like a bot response. What do you think my ideology is?

One can favor intelligence and still find some people to be condescending and out of touch.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, he's gotta go. Conservatives will play the false equivalence card and make Franken-Roy Moore comparisons, even tho pedophilia is clearly more heinous than what Franken did.

But if Franken isn't out, then Trumptards will insist it's okay for Moore to be in the Senate too.

[Chucho]

:lol This is like a bot response. What do you think my ideology is?

One can favor intelligence and still find some people to be condescending and out of touch.


:toast

[Spurminator]

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Setting a precedent I have no confidence will be followed through.

[spurraider21]

:lol This is like a bot response. What do you think my ideology is?

One can favor intelligence and still find some people to be condescending and out of touch.
he's malfunctioning today. sensitivity a tad high, needs to be adjusted

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248521&page=9&p=9191448&viewfull=1#post9191448 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248521&page=9&p=9191448&viewfull=1#post9191448)

[rjv]

franken's effort to cast this off as failed humor is part of the problem. it should not even be considered as a joke. why would he think the notion of taking advantage of a woman be funny? it doesn't make him an actual sexual predator but it does make him a part of the indifference and sense of entitlement that plagues the issue. then again, being indifferent, out of touch and entitled seems to describe a great deal of the established democrats at this time.

[rjv]

Yeah, he's gotta go. Conservatives will play the false equivalence card and make Franken-Roy Moore comparisons, even tho pedophilia is clearly more heinous than what Franken did.

But if Franken isn't out, then Trumptards will insist it's okay for Moore to be in the Senate too.

[SpursforSix]

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[SpursforSix]

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[baseline bum]

What a fucking piece of shit

[Yonivore]

What a fucking piece of shit

"Seriously? Now you're bothered by a Democrat's behavior?" -- Juanita Broaddrick

https://www.laurieayers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/juanita-broaddrick.jpg

[baseline bum]

"Seriously? Now you're bothered by a Democrat's behavior?" -- Juanita Broaddrick


Rich coming from the party of Trump and Pedo Roy. And fuck both Clintons.

[Pavlov]

"Seriously? Now you're bothered by a Democrat's behavior?" -- Juanita Broaddrick

https://www.laurieayers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/juanita-broaddrick.jpgAre you bothered by Moore and Trump's behavior?

Seriously.

[Yonivore]

Rich coming from the party of Trump and Pedo Roy. And fuck both Clintons.
What'd Trump do and where's your proof on Roy?

Trump was caught in some locker room banter and, as far as I know, there's only been accusations against Moore.

Where's the outrage for Menendez? Why aren't there calls for his resignation?

[baseline bum]

What'd Trump do and where's your proof on Roy?

Trump was caught in some locker room banter and, as far as I know, there's only been accusations against Moore.

Where's the outrage for Menendez? Why aren't there calls for his resignation?

Yeah Pedo Roy is innocent when he gave that well I don't remember answer on Hannity. Trump admitting he sexually assaults women isn't enough? Gotta love how values don't apply to people with the Magic R next to their names on the ballot.

[Quadzilla99]

What'd Trump do

Lol

[Pavlov]

What'd Trump do and where's your proof on Roy?

Trump was caught in some locker room banter and, as far as I know, there's only been accusations against Moore.So all those women are lying sluts? Pick a lane.


Where's the outrage for Menendez? Why aren't there calls for his resignation?Damn, you turned up the deflectors to eleven quickly.

[baseline bum]

Lol

Totally normal to lust after a little girl and say you'll be dating her in ten years.

[Yonivore]

Yeah Pedo Roy is innocent when he gave that well I don't remember answer on Hannity. Trump admitting he sexually assaults women isn't enough? Gotta love how values don't apply to people with the Magic R next to their names on the ballot.
Didn't say they don't apply. If he's guilty, he shouldn't be in the Senate. I just asked for proof, beyond suspiciously-timed allegations.

[Pavlov]

Didn't say they don't apply. If he's guilty, he shouldn't be in the Senate. I just asked for proof, beyond suspiciously-timed allegations.From lying sluts!

[Yonivore]

So all those women are lying sluts? Pick a lane.
Which women?


Damn, you turned up the deflectors to eleven quickly.
Menendez is on trial and there's yet to be a call for his expulsion. In fact, Lindsay Graham testified on his behalf but demanded Moore withdraw. This reeks of a set up.

[AaronY]

Which women?

Lmao

[Yonivore]

From lying sluts!
Yep, they could be lying. The principal woman's step-son has already called her a liar and the Yearbook signature is showing signs of being Ratherized.

[baseline bum]

Didn't say they don't apply. If he's guilty, he shouldn't be in the Senate. I just asked for proof, beyond suspiciously-timed allegations.

Prove to me Franken forced himself on his accuser. Prove to me that wasn't just a funny photo she agreed to at the time.

[Pavlov]

Which women?All the women who accuse Republicans.

Lying sluts!



Menendez is on trial and there's yet to be a call for his expulsion. In fact, Lindsay Graham testified on his behalf but demanded Moore withdraw. This reeks of a set up.Why is this in a threat about Al Franken and sexual harassment and assault? This reeks of deflection.

[Yonivore]

Lol
Seriously, what'd he do?

[Pavlov]

Seriously, what'd he do?Seriously, lol.

[Yonivore]

Seriously, lol.
So, you don't know. Got it.

[Quadzilla99]

http://www.wishlist.pk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/resized_socially-awkward-penguin-meme-generator-they-re-onto-me-maybe-if-i-play-dumb-they-ll-just-go-away-4f7756.jpg

[Pavlov]

So, you don't know. Got it.So, you think any woman who has ever accused a Republican is a lying slut. Got it.

[Yonivore]

All the women who accuse Republicans.

Lying sluts!
Your words, not mine. I'm just suspect of the women in the Moore case.


Why is this in a threat about Al Franken and sexual harassment and assault? This reeks of deflection.
Fine, take it back to Franken.

I was just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of ignoring Democrat offenses for oh, about 5 decades, and all of sudden being offended by Al Franken.

[Yonivore]

So, you think any woman who has ever accused a Republican is a lying slut. Got it.
Nope.

[AaronY]

They need to kick him out. What is there to investigate? There's a fucking photo and he didn't even deny it. Plus there's a Democrat governor to appoint his replacement so it doesn't make even political sense

[Pavlov]

Your words, not mine. I'm just suspect of the women in the Moore case.You think they're lying sluts.



Fine, take it back to Franken.

I was just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of ignoring Democrat offenses for oh, about 5 decades, and all of sudden being offended by Al Franken.And we are pointing out your obvious hypocrisy in thinking that any woman who accuses a Republican is a lying slut.

[Pavlov]

Nope.Which ones do you think are not lying sluts?

[baseline bum]

So, you don't know. Got it.

Hey, let's say you're walking your late elementary school age granddaughter back from school and some 45 year old asshole says "I'll be dating her in ten years" as you all walk by. You're not going to beat the shit out of that douchebag?

[Yonivore]

You think they're lying sluts.
Again, your words.


And we are pointing out your obvious hypocrisy in thinking that any woman who accuses a Republican is a lying slut.
Again, never said it.

But, one accuser's step-son says his stepmom is a liar.

Stepson of Roy Moore Accuser Says She’s LYING (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/stepson-of-roy-moore-accuser-says-shes-lying/)

Her yearbook signature story is also under a bit of scrutiny.

[Pavlov]

Hey, let's say you're walking your late elementary school age granddaughter back from school and some 45 year old asshole says "I'll be dating her in ten years" as you all walk by. You're not going to beat the shit out of that douchebag?If he's a Democrat? Sure.

Republicans in locker rooms talk about having future sex with elementary school girls all the time.

It's cute and wholesome fun.

[Pavlov]

Again, your words.


Again, never said it.

But, one accuser's step-son says his stepmom is a liar.

Stepson of Roy Moore Accuser Says She’s LYING (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/stepson-of-roy-moore-accuser-says-shes-lying/)

Her yearbook signature story is also under a bit of scrutiny.So you're saying you think she's a lying slut.

That's one.

What about the others?

Are they all lying sluts?

[Yonivore]

Which ones do you think are not lying sluts?
Hey, Pavlov, when you'd quit beating your wife?

So, because I have legitimate questions about the principal accuser's story, I'm call all the accusers lying sluts? I'm not even calling her a liar. but, her stepson is and there have been legitimate questions raised about the purported Roy Moore inscription in the yearbook.

Why does it have to be all or nothing?

4 decades have passes and Roy Moore has been a controversial figure nearly two of those. I'm suspicious of the timing. Why not come forward when they were beating him up over the ten commandments or his appointment?

[Yonivore]

So you're saying you think she's a lying slut.

That's one.

What about the others?

Are they all lying sluts?
Pretty fond of the word "slut," aren't you?

You seem pretty invested in this; related to anyone involved?

[Pavlov]

Hey, Pavlov, when you'd quit beating your wife?

So, because I have legitimate questions about the principal accuser's story, I'm call all the accusers lying sluts? I'm not even calling her a liar. but, her stepson is and there have been legitimate questions raised about the purported Roy Moore inscription in the yearbook.

Why does it have to be all or nothing?

4 decades have passes and Roy Moore has been a controversial figure nearly two of those. I'm suspicious of the timing. Why not come forward when they were beating him up over the ten commandments or his appointment?Which of Moore's accusers do you think are not lying sluts?

[Pavlov]

Pretty fond of the word "slut," aren't you?

You seem pretty invested in this; related to anyone involved?You seem to want to deflect from the topic again.

Which of Moore's accusers do you think are not lying sluts?

[Yonivore]

Which of Moore's accusers do you think are not lying sluts?
I don't know that any of them are sluts but, it's possible they're all lying.

If the worst of what they're alleging is true, 40 years is a long time to wait. If the mildest of what they're alleging is sincere, it's possible they misinterpreted or have embellished the story over the years.

Again, all of this is 40 years old.

Which of the women's stories is unimpeachable, in your estimation?

[Pavlov]

I don't know that any of them are sluts but, it's possible they're all lying.

If the worst of what they're alleging is true, 40 years is a long time to wait. If the mildest of what they're alleging is sincere, it's possible they misinterpreted or have embellished the story over the years.

Again, all of this is 40 years old.

Which of the women's stories is unimpeachable, in your estimation?I don't consider any of them to be lying sluts.

You think they are all lying sluts. Ill-timed, too-late lying sluts.

The fact that you and other Republicans automatically default to thinking they are lying sluts is a huge reason they haven't come forward.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know that any of them are sluts but, it's possible they're all lying.

If the worst of what they're alleging is true, 40 years is a long time to wait. If the mildest of what they're alleging is sincere, it's possible they misinterpreted or have embellished the story over the years.

Again, all of this is 40 years old.

Which of the women's stories is unimpeachable, in your estimation?

All of them. They are consistent, told to multiple people at the time they happened, who can back them up. Very, very few women who accuse powerful men of such things lie about it. The costs are just too high.

What does it say about the Republican party that you are forced to even mildly defend this shitbag?

What does it say about you? This is a new low.

[RandomGuy]

I don't consider any of them to be lying sluts.

You think they are all lying sluts. Ill-timed, too-late lying sluts.

The fact that you and other Republicans automatically default to thinking they are lying sluts is a huge reason they haven't come forward.

Bingo.

I can only be amazed at a party that has already alienated Hispanics (rapists), Black people (both sides), and now seems hell bent on alienating women.

Holy fuck, what a bunch of dumbasses. I can't take the schadenfreude any more.

[RandomGuy]

The #metoo has brought all sorts of women, conservative and liberal, out into public who have looked the other way or not said anything up until now.

Now you get dipshits trying to poo-poo them in the name of their political party.

Yeah, that's going to play real well.

[Yonivore]

All of them. They are consistent, told to multiple people at the time they happened, who can back them up. Very, very few women who accuse powerful men of such things lie about it. The costs are just too high.
Which stories are consistent? That he liked young women? Or that he raped someone? And, if it's that he liked young women, I think you also need to look at what was acceptable at the time. My Grandfather was 32 when he married my Grandmother at 18. Such relationships weren't unheard of. So, again, I think the accusations need to be vetted and, if any criminal act is verified, he should not be in the Senate; if elected expelled but, hopefully just lose the election.


What does it say about the Republican party that you are forced to even mildly defend this shitbag?
I'm not defending him. I'm suspect of the stories. Especially when the most serious accuser is called a liar by her stepson and the yearbook inscription is suspicious. Everything else are 40 year old stories.


What does it say about you? This is a new low.
Meh, I'm just suspicious of the timing. If any of the criminal activity is proven true, he should rot.

[Chucho]

I don't consider any of them to be lying sluts.

You think they are all lying sluts. Ill-timed, too-late lying sluts.

The fact that you and other Republicans automatically default to thinking they are lying sluts is a huge reason they haven't come forward.


Who started calling them lying sluts here?

[Pavlov]

Which stories are consistent? That he liked young women? Or that he raped someone? And, if it's that he liked young women, I think you also need to look at what was acceptable at the time. My Grandfather was 32 when he married my Grandmother at 18. Such relationships weren't unheard of.
Followed almost immediately with

I'm not defending him
:lmao

[Pavlov]

Who started calling them lying sluts here?Which of Moore's accusers do you think are not lying sluts?

[Yonivore]

Followed almost immediately with

:lmao
How's that a defense of rape?

Why don't you specify exactly which accusations disqualify Roy Moore from the Senate.

[Chucho]

Which of Moore's accusers do you think are not lying sluts?
Answer my question.

[boutons_deux]

the Rightwing/Rape caucus rises to the occasion. The girl or girls are lying and/or been fucking so they are sluts.

notice the "girls" are in their 50s now, not naive, inexperienced, "virginal?" teeny boppers in a rural, tiny AL burg.

[Pavlov]

How's that a defense of rape?Oh, your claim is he has to be convicted of rape before he's disqualified for the Senate.


Why don't you specify exactly which accusations disqualify Roy Moore from the Senate.You really, really want this guy to be a Senator. Basically, his entire career disqualifies him. Don't even have to factor in his assaulting little girls.

[RandomGuy]

Which stories are consistent? That he liked young women? Or that he raped someone? And, if it's that he liked young women, I think you also need to look at what was acceptable at the time. My Grandfather was 32 when he married my Grandmother at 18. Such relationships weren't unheard of. So, again, I think the accusations need to be vetted and, if any criminal act is verified, he should not be in the Senate; if elected expelled but, hopefully just lose the election.

I'm not defending him. I'm suspect of the stories. Especially when the most serious accuser is called a liar by her stepson and the yearbook inscription is suspicious. Everything else are 40 year old stories.

Meh, I'm just suspicious of the timing. If any of the criminal activity is proven true, he should rot.

Statute of limitations is long over. No trial will be forthcoming.

Multiple Republicans, after having reviewed the statements have said they find them credible.

This is the first national office that this guy has run for, not really surprising that the rest of the country isn't going to look the other way about what a shitbag his is, even if the moronic Republicans in Alabama are willing to do so, because he has the magic "R" behind his name.

Looks increasingly like many of them aren't going to let that happen. Good on them, but a majority of the Republican electorate in that state are still going to vote for him. what an indictment of the Republican party.

[RandomGuy]

Oh, your claim is he has to be convicted of rape before he's disqualified for the Senate.

You really, really want this guy to be a Senator. Basically, his entire career disqualifies him. Don't even have to factor in his assaulting little girls.

"if it's not criminal, its ok"

"a judge ignoring the supreme court is OK"

These are not the statement of someone with a deep sense of ethics. I would be embarrassed if my kids uttered those words.

[Yonivore]

Statute of limitations is long over. No trial will be forthcoming.
I'm not concerned with the statute of limitation. If any of the criminal acts of when he's been accused are proven out, I'm with everyone else calling for his withdrawal or expulsion, if elected.


Multiple Republicans, after having reviewed the statements have said they find them credible.
And, multiple Republicans have not jumped on McConnell's bandwagon. You just can't trust the motives of politicians.


This is the first national office that this guy has run for, not really surprising that the rest of the country isn't going to look the other way about what a shitbag his is, even if the moronic Republicans in Alabama are willing to do so, because he has the magic "R" behind his name.
His other controversies were national, as well.


Looks increasingly like many of them aren't going to let that happen. Good on them, but a majority of the Republican electorate in that state are still going to vote for him. what an indictment of the Republican party.
You know, if Roy Moore's downfall results in a similar accounting of all the scumbags in Congress, it's an acceptable loss. Even if he's innocent.

But, this had better result in a house-cleaning because, the level of offense just isn't proportional to that afforded the acts of others that are apparently in the Good Ol' Boys Club of Washington.

[Pavlov]

I'm not concerned with the statute of limitation. If any of the criminal acts of when he's been accused are proven out, I'm with everyone else calling for his withdrawal or expulsion, if elected.


And, multiple Republicans have not jumped on McConnell's bandwagon. You just can't trust the motives of politicians.


His other controversies were national, as well.


You know, if Roy Moore's downfall results in a similar accounting of all the scumbags in Congress, it's an acceptable loss. Even if he's innocent.

But, this had better result in a house-cleaning because, the level of offense just isn't proportional to that afforded the acts of others that are apparently in the Good Ol' Boys Club of Washington.Sexual assault just doesn't matter to you at all.

Unless you think a Democrat did it.

[Yonivore]

"if it's not criminal, its ok"
That's generally true.

Again, if we're talking about a 32 year-old dating a 17 or 18 year old; if everyone is consenting, I don't see the issue. Maybe I'm not as up on the accusations as you.


"a judge ignoring the supreme court is OK"

These are not the statement of someone with a deep sense of ethics. I would be embarrassed if my kids uttered those words.
Meh, it's all about context.

Federal judges and Circuit courts defy the Supremes all the time.

[Pavlov]

That's generally true.

Again, if we're talking about a 32 year-old dating a 17 or 18 year old; if everyone is consenting, I don't see the issue. Maybe I'm not as up on the accusations as you.:lol maybe.



Meh, it's all about context.

Federal judges and Circuit courts defy the Supremes all the time.:lol all the time

[Yonivore]

Sexual assault just doesn't matter to you at all.
That's a crime. I've already said if he's guilty of a crime, he should not be in the Senate.


Unless you think a Democrat did it.
Nope. Not my position. Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.

[Pavlov]

That's a crime. I've already said if he's guilty of a crime, he should not be in the Senate.Guilty by what standard?



Nope. Not my position. Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?

[Chucho]

Guilty by what standard?


Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?


Why did you keep referring to victims as "lying sluts"?

[CosmicCowboy]

Franken back then was just a comedian doing what comedians do. Kind of like what he does in the Senate now.

[monosylab1k]

Franken back then was just a comedian doing what comedians do. Kind of like what he does in the Senate now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

[Yonivore]

Guilty by what standard?
Well, more than a story would be nice.


Which Republicans do you think are guilty of sexual assault or harassment?
Other than Roy Moore, which others are accused?

[Pavlov]

Well, more than a story would be nice.What would work for you?



Other than Roy Moore, which others are accused?I'm talking in the history of the Republican party. Have any of the "stories" ever met your burden of proof?

[Yonivore]

What would work for you?
I don't know. I haven't seen anything yet and, again, I question the timing.


I'm talking in the history of the Republican party. Have any of the "stories" ever met your burden of proof?
Bob Packwood immediately comes to mind.

[TSA]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOxTvq4VoAACBMs.jpg

[Pavlov]

I don't know. I haven't seen anything yet and, again, I question the timing.After Weinstein, why would anyone question the timing? What motive do you think the lying sluts would have to lie?



Bob Packwood immediately comes to mind.You believe his accusers in that case?

Why?

[TSA]

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[Yonivore]

After Weinstein, why would anyone question the timing? What motive do you think the lying sluts would have to lie?
Money works with a lot of people. Extortion is an option.


You believe his accusers in that case?
As I recall, yes.


Why?
I don't recall.

[Yonivore]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOxTvq4VoAACBMs.jpg

Seems legit.

[Pavlov]

Money works with a lot of people. Extortion is an option.An option for whom?

Walk me through your extortion option -- how is any of this possibly extortion?



As I recall, yes.


I don't recall.Jesus, you're not running for the Senate.

[Spurminator]

Although, it would be nice if the Democrats were held accountable for their behavior.

Tim Mahoney (D)
John Edwards (D)
Eric Massa (D)
Anthony Weiner (D)
David Wu (D)
Al Franken (D)

[Blake]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOxTvq4VoAACBMs.jpg

See it would be bipartisan if you included Trump in there

[Blake]

Seems legit.

Lol if trump is in that picture you cry 'prove it'

[Pavlov]

Lol if trump is in that picture you cry 'prove it'There are no accusations against Trump at all. Yoni said so.

[Spurminator]

Al Franken is rightfully being hammered by both sides now, and there don't appear to be any left-wing Breitbarts to stir up doubt among the LCD party cheerleaders.

[RandomGuy]

White Evangelicals Have Warmed To Politicians Who Commit 'Immoral' Acts


That's what a new PRRI/Brookings poll says. In 2011, 30 percent of white evangelicals said that "an elected official who commits an immoral act in their personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life." Now, 72 percent say so — a far bigger swing than other religious groups the poll studied.
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/23/498890836/poll-white-evangelicals-have-warmed-to-politicians-who-commit-immoral-acts

The magic "R" makes everything ok. Sexual assault, lying, stealing, nepotism, political witch hunts, rank incompetence, infidelity is all ok, as long as they have the magic "R".

If Obama had appointed an in-law with no science degree to a scientific post within the government, is there any doubt this would have rocketed up to the top of Fox "news" priority of Things to be Outraged About?

[Yonivore]

An option for whom?

Walk me through your extortion option -- how is any of this possibly extortion?
Very slowly...for Pavlov.

Person wants a person to accuse another person of some indiscretion.

Person finds something embarrassing or legally compromising about a person.

Person threatens to reveal embarrassing or illegal activity unless person does what they want.

Slow enough for you?


Jesus, you're not running for the Senate.
You're right but, I don't remember that much about the Packwood case.

[Pavlov]

Very slowly...for Pavlov.

Person wants a person to accuse another person of some indiscretion.

Person finds something embarrassing or legally compromising about a person.

Person threatens to reveal embarrassing or illegal activity unless person does what they want.

Slow enough for you?Yeah, but here's what actually happened. Very slowly...for you.

Multiple persons revealed embarrassing or illegal activity.

End of story.

Slow enough for you?

Or are you saying they can go back to just threatening to talk about the sexual assault they already talked about? Walk me through that one -- even quickly if you like.

[Yonivore]

See it would be bipartisan if you included Trump in there
Well, there are similar pictures of Weiner showing his weiner and Joe groping children. Granted Bill Clinton was pretty slick about not being caught in compromising images but, his name does appear on the flight logs of the Lolita Express a few times.

Are there similar images of Trump?

By the way, I'm no Trump fan; he's a bombastic, arrogant, blow hard but, that he has the Left and establishment Republicans so apoplectic is a bonus.

[Yonivore]

Yeah, but here's what actually happened. Very slowly...for you.

Multiple persons revealed embarrassing or illegal activity.

End of story.

Slow enough for you?
Serious question; when is the last time you sought the expulsion or withdrawal of a politician on simple allegations?


Or are you saying they can go back to just threatening to talk about the sexual assault they already talked about? Walk me through that one -- even quickly if you like.
With whom did they previously talk about the sexual assaults? Not the media because, I'm sure we would have heard about it long before now.

[Pavlov]

Serious question; when is the last time you sought the expulsion or withdrawal of a politician on simple allegations?Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific about "simple allegations." I have the impression you are pretty ignorant about the Moore allegations.


With whom did they previously talk about the sexual assaults? Not the media because, I'm sure we would have heard about it long before now.Impression confirmed.

Are you sticking with the possible extortion theory? I really need to know how it applies here.

[Chucho]

Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific about "simple allegations." I have the impression you are pretty ignorant about the Moore allegations.

Impression confirmed.

Are you sticking with the possible extortion theory? I really need to know how it applies here.


Why were you calling the victims/accusers "lying sluts"?

[Quadzilla99]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOxPJHpW0AIHacN?format=jpg

[baseline bum]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.

[baseline bum]

Well, there are similar pictures of Weiner showing his weiner and Joe groping children. Granted Bill Clinton was pretty slick about not being caught in compromising images but, his name does appear on the flight logs of the Lolita Express a few times.

Are there similar images of Trump?

By the way, I'm no Trump fan; he's a bombastic, arrogant, blow hard but, that he has the Left and establishment Republicans so apoplectic is a bonus.

Yet another Republican non Trump fan who semen shields for him. I forgot who said it, but he was dead on when he said Trump has 100% approval rating among spurstalk republicans while allegedly 0% of them voted for the fat piece of shit.

[Yonivore]

Yet another Republican non Trump fan who semen shields for him. I forgot who said it, but he was dead on when he said Trump has 100% approval rating among spurstalk republicans while allegedly 0% of them voted for the fat piece of shit.

Oh, I voted for him. He is infinitely better than the alternative.

[pgardn]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.

Hes a Republican whore.
The proof is in this thread. There is no proof unless admission occurs. Moore has been pulling this crap and these girls have been talking to their families about it many years. Most of them had to be rounded up by WaPo to even get this pervert tagged. Now Republicans look at this evidence and are absolutely backing out. But BeYONdstupid has to have a trial first for any Republican.

[Yonivore]

Gotta love Yonviore's radical skepticism when it's a Republican being accused.
Again, photographic proof is hard to refute; and, in fact, I don't believe any of the Democrats refuted it.

And, by the way, I haven't demanded the expulsion of Senator Menendez; I've patiently waited for the courts to take their course. I was merely point out the charges against him are more substantially evidenced than those against Roy Moore, yet no one is demanding he step down.

[Quadzilla99]

Oh, I voted for him. He is infinitely better than the alternative.

Did you honestly not hear about the 15-20 women who accused him of sex assault after the access Hollywood tapes?

[Chucho]

I don't know how anyone can question he needs to be removed. Like beyond partisanship, just some common sense.

[Yonivore]

Did you honestly not hear about the 15-20 women who accused him of sex assault after the access Hollywood tapes?
Hell, he's been accused of a lot of stuff. Can't keep up with it all. Why do these people only surface when there's an election?

Yeah, I heard about them and the stories came and went...without any substantiation. If he were that lecherous, you'd think there'd be video or photographic proof, such as Biden groping children, Anthony Weiner flashing his weiner, or Al Franken grabbing boobies. Just because a bunch of people say something doesn't make it true. There are more that 15-20 people who have said, since he was elected, they'd do damn near anything to get him out of office... Sorry, it didn't raise my needle.

[Mark Celibate]

Ha! B-but Republicans :cry

[Pavlov]

Hell, he's been accused of a lot of stuff. Can't keep up with it all. Why do these people only surface when there's an election?

Yeah, I heard about them and the stories came and went...without any substantiation. If he were that lecherous, you'd think there'd be video or photographic proof, such as Biden groping children, Anthony Weiner flashing his weiner, or Al Franken grabbing boobies. Just because a bunch of people say something doesn't make it true. There are more that 15-20 people who have said, since he was elected, they'd do damn near anything to get him out of office... Sorry, it didn't raise my needle.So all Trump's accusers are lying sluts.

[Chucho]

So all Trump's accusers are lying sluts.

Why do you keep referring to them as "lying sluts"?

[rjv]

Ha! B-but Republicans :cry Dems are Republicans Lite.

[RandomGuy]

“The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

“I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.

“But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.

“For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

“Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.

“While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences.

“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

“And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them.”

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:


Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.

------------------------------------------------------------------

[RandomGuy]

Dems are Republicans Lite.

Not quite. I am hoping the resemblence will change over the coming cycle or two, especially when it comes to sucking up to business interests.

[Yonivore]

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:


Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.

------------------------------------------------------------------
So, of course he's resigning from the Senate, correct?

And, the contrasts you draw could be explained by the difference between guilty and innocent.

[Chucho]

Didn't deny it.

Didn't call the woman a liar.

Called for an ethics investigation of himself.

Contrast that with Moore:


Called all the women (plural) liars.

Denied everything.

Said it wasn't that bad, even *if* he had done anything, which he most definitely didn't

Said he would sue his accusers.


------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless you're retarded, you don't go down the same route as the nearest comparison when it's obviously a shit storm.

Kuddos to him and I hope he does the right thing and vacates his seat, at least he won't be a complete pariah while Moore will be removed/lose the election in a complete and utter embarrassment. Good riddance to both.

[RandomGuy]

Prove to me Franken forced himself on his accuser. Prove to me that wasn't just a funny photo she agreed to at the time.

She was obviously asleep. Not sure she would have agreed. Doesn't look like he was actally touching her tho', but that is hardly the point.

[rjv]

Not quite. I am hoping the resemblence will change over the coming cycle or two, especially when it comes to sucking up to business interests. or signing off on every war and outrageous military spending proposal.

[Spurminator]

He is denying the rehearsal, which is the far creepier part of the story.

[AaronY]

She was obviously asleep. Not sure she would have agreed. Doesn't look like he was actally touching her tho', but that is hardly the point.

Lol

I'm not gonna defend her but she was asleep and maybe she would have consented. Plus she had a bullet proof vest on so she wouldn't have felt anything. Also I think she's a Republican.

Not that I would I would defend him

[RandomGuy]

So, of course he's resigning from the Senate, correct?

And, the contrasts you draw could be explained by the difference between guilty and innocent.

They *could* be explained by magic pixie farts.

Fucking sophist. smh

[RandomGuy]

So, of course he's resigning from the Senate, correct?

I don't know what he is going to do. Personally, I am willing to forgive a one-off, with some expressed contrition. That goes for anyone regardless of party.

Riddle me this, sophist.

Are the scale of accusations similar? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

What'd Trump do

Grabbed 'em by the pussy. When you're a celebrity they let you do it.

Are you offended by this ?

[Yonivore]

I don't know what he is going to do. Personally, I am willing to forgive a one-off, with some expressed contrition. That goes for anyone regardless of party.
Okay. How 'bout now?

HERE WE GO=> Second Woman Accuses Al Franken of Stalking & Harassing Her (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/here-we-go-second-woman-accuses-al-franken-of-stalking-harassing-her/)



Riddle me this, sophist.

Are the scale of accusations similar? Yes or no.
So, on Pavlov's recommendation, I went and looked at the allegations against Roy Moore; with the exception of Beverly Nelson and Leigh Corfman, none of the other women alleged a criminal act. And, in my mind, Nelson's claim is clouded by the suspicion over her story and the authenticity of the yearbook inscription. I'll grant you, Leigh Corfman's allegation is the most problematic but also impossible to prove or disprove. All the other women either dated him or just told 40 year old stories about him being a creep. Oh, and the '91 story of him grabbing the ass of a 28-year old. So, no, I don't think the scale of accusations are similar. Judge Moore denies the allegations and Franken does not. Franken has tipped the scale towards himself.

And before you ascribe too much nobility to his consenting to the ethics investigation, he's probably hoping the long drawn-out process will give him cover until this all blows over. That's usually how those things go.

So, again, should he now resign?

[Yonivore]

Grabbed 'em by the pussy. When you're a celebrity they let you do it.

Are you offended by this ?
Yep. Stupid thing to say. Anyone claim he grabbed them by the pussy?

[Pavlov]

Yep. Stupid thing to say. Anyone claim he grabbed them by the pussy?:lol

Of course.

Why would Trump lie about it?

[RandomGuy]

Yep. Stupid thing to say. Anyone claim he grabbed them by the pussy?

Yup.

[vy65]

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/10/18910-004-7F8BCBE7.jpg

[Yonivore]

Yup.
And, where did that go?

[Pavlov]

And, where did that go?Do you think they're all lying sluts considering you have no idea what any of them said?

[RandomGuy]

Okay. How 'bout now?

HERE WE GO=> Second Woman Accuses Al Franken of Stalking & Harassing Her (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/here-we-go-second-woman-accuses-al-franken-of-stalking-harassing-her/)



So, on Pavlov's recommendation, I went and looked at the allegations against Roy Moore; with the exception of Beverly Nelson and Leigh Corfman, none of the other women alleged a criminal act. And, in my mind, Nelson's claim is clouded by the suspicion over her story and the authenticity of the yearbook inscription. I'll grant you, Leigh Corfman's allegation is the most problematic but also impossible to prove or disprove. All the other women either dated him or just told 40 year old stories about him being a creep. Oh, and the '91 story of him grabbing the ass of a 28-year old. So, no, I don't think the scale of accusations are similar. Judge Moore denies the allegations and Franken does not. Franken has tipped the scale towards himself.

And before you ascribe too much nobility to his consenting to the ethics investigation, he's probably hoping the long drawn-out process will give him cover until this all blows over. That's usually how those things go.

So, again, should he now resign?

Haven't seen what the woman said.

Your breaking news is on the same site as:

"Mueller Files 294 Sealed Indictments Against Elite Pedophile Ring Members" and "las vegas was a staged false flag" bullshit stories.

So forgive me for withholding judgment.

[RandomGuy]

And, where did that go?

You tell me.

How much money and lawyers would a guilty billionaire throw at the problem to make it go away, sophist?

[RandomGuy]

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/10/18910-004-7F8BCBE7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZegQYgygdw

Shit, the embed code...where did that go...

[Chucho]

Do you think they're all lying sluts considering you have no idea what any of them said?

Why do you keep referring to them as lying sluts?

[Pavlov]

Accuser: Trump grabbed me by the pussy.

Republicans: You filthy liar! You go to hell and you die!

Trump: I grab women by the pussy.

Republicans: Oh Donald -- you lovable scamp, you!

[vy65]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZegQYgygdw

Shit, the embed code...where did that go...

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Nf_Y4MbUCLY

[baseline bum]

She was obviously asleep. Not sure she would have agreed. Doesn't look like he was actally touching her tho', but that is hardly the point.

Sorry, I was using Yonivore's radical skepticism like he applies to Pedo Roy and Dear Leader.

[baseline bum]

I don't know what he is going to do. Personally, I am willing to forgive a one-off, with some expressed contrition. That goes for anyone regardless of party.

Riddle me this, sophist.

Are the scale of accusations similar? Yes or no.

These things are never one-offs. I bet we'll see four or five more women come forward just like with Pedo Roy. Franken is done.

[vy65]

I don't know what he is going to do. Personally, I am willing to forgive a one-off, with some expressed contrition. That goes for anyone regardless of party.

Riddle me this, sophist.

Are the scale of accusations similar? Yes or no.

To compare a contrite politician's acts from before his political career when he was a comedian to a child rapist is lunacy. He was a comedian doing a bit. She waited 10 years. I have some real problems with this -- especially trying to equivocate it with banging a 12 year old.

[Yonivore]

To compare a contrite politician's acts from before his political career when he was a comedian to a child rapist is lunacy.
One's character and the severity of their actions are judged by their occupation?


He was a comedian doing a bit. She waited 10 years.
And? Moore's accusers waited 40 years.


I have some real problems with this -- especially trying to equivocate it with banging a 12 year old.
Who "banged" a 12 year old?

[sickdsm]

I mean he wasn't really my hero but I thought he was pretty damn funny
That's like voting for Arnold cuz he had big muscles

[AaronY]

That's like voting for Arnold cuz he had big muscles
I live in Florida dumbass

[sickdsm]

"elite liberal snobbery" = "I hate smart, educated people, they's with the Devil." :cry

Keep vilifying intelligence and education. See how far that gets your ideology.
Sounds like your getting defensive on his actions

[vy65]

One's character and the severity of their actions are judged by their occupation?

Character? Try again.

Do you know what comedy is?


And? Moore's accusers waited 40 years.

They were also children


Who "banged" a 12 year old?

Roy Moore, the pedophile you're semen shielding currently.

[Pavlov]

I'm still waiting for Yoni to explain his "possible extortion" theory RE: Moore's accusers.

[sickdsm]

I live in Florida dumbass
Flew right over your head.......

[AaronY]

Flew right over your head.......
I didn't vote for him and I can't vote for him. Just thought he was a funny good guy until today.

[Yonivore]

Haven't seen what the woman said.

Your breaking news is on the same site as:

"Mueller Files 294 Sealed Indictments Against Elite Pedophile Ring Members" and "las vegas was a staged false flag" bullshit stories.
How about the source of the accusation?

https://twitter.com/MelMorgan1350/status/931221482671300609



So forgive me for withholding judgment.
As I'm doing on Roy Moore.

[monosylab1k]

Okay. How 'bout now?

HERE WE GO=> Second Woman Accuses Al Franken of Stalking & Harassing Her (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/here-we-go-second-woman-accuses-al-franken-of-stalking-harassing-her/)



So, on Pavlov's recommendation, I went and looked at the allegations against Roy Moore; with the exception of Beverly Nelson and Leigh Corfman, none of the other women alleged a criminal act. And, in my mind, Nelson's claim is clouded by the suspicion over her story and the authenticity of the yearbook inscription. I'll grant you, Leigh Corfman's allegation is the most problematic but also impossible to prove or disprove. All the other women either dated him or just told 40 year old stories about him being a creep. Oh, and the '91 story of him grabbing the ass of a 28-year old. So, no, I don't think the scale of accusations are similar. Judge Moore denies the allegations and Franken does not. Franken has tipped the scale towards himself.

And before you ascribe too much nobility to his consenting to the ethics investigation, he's probably hoping the long drawn-out process will give him cover until this all blows over. That's usually how those things go.

So, again, should he now resign?

He called her 3 different times to berate her for lying on a TV show. While her language is trying to suggest some kind of threatening and/or sexual angle to this, there is none. FAKE NEWS. Sad!

[Pavlov]

Okay. How 'bout now?

HERE WE GO=> Second Woman Accuses Al Franken of Stalking & Harassing Her (https://www.usatoday24x7.com/here-we-go-second-woman-accuses-al-franken-of-stalking-harassing-her/)Hm.

HERE WE GO=> where?

[DarrinS]

Al Franken is a douche.

[DMX7]

Al was a professional comedian. That picture needs to be looked at in that light. It was humor at someone else's expense. It was wrong, but it's not pedophilia. He apologized and she accepted.

[Reck]

He should resign.

That said, cute how people are calling for his expulsion immediately for gropping but good old pedo Moore gets to stay. lol

[sickdsm]

"elite liberal snobbery" = "I hate smart, educated people, they's with the Devil." :cry

Keep vilifying intelligence and education. See how far that gets your ideology.

Elite liberal snobbery is this picture. This is basically trump saying when your a star you can grab them by the pussy. Forcing a kiss on her was bad enough but to take a picture of him while she sleeps because humor?

[sickdsm]

Al was a professional comedian. That picture needs to be looked at in that light. It was humor at someone else's expense. It was wrong, but it's not pedophilia. He apologized and she accepted.

Professional comedian does not reserve you the right to break laws because muh humor

[DarrinS]

Al was a professional comedian. That picture needs to be looked at in that light. It was humor at someone else's expense. It was wrong, but it's not pedophilia. He apologized and she accepted.

It’s not the photo, it’s the other stuff she accused him of.

[koriwhat]

lmao another bites the dust! then boohoo here's my apology bs response by a creep like al.

[Trill Clinton]

who is next?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif

[spurraider21]

lmao another bites the dust! then boohoo here's my apology bs response by a creep like al.
You're reeking of non partisanship

[koriwhat]

You're reeking of non partisanship

yall are reeking of being a bunch of shithead libs so what's new? your side sucks and so does the other side. both sides should burn in hell and fast!

you're just upset because i won't bow down and suck the dick of the devil(ie; liberalism in its form in today's world). that's the truth of it. so call me non partisanship or whatever you'd like but you'll never convince me that libs are anything other than power hungry fascists!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yall are reeking of being a bunch of shithead libs so what's new? your side sucks and so does the other side. both sides should burn in hell and fast!

you're just upset because i won't bow down and suck the dick of the devil(ie; liberalism in its form in today's world). that's the truth of it. so call me non partisanship or whatever you'd like but you'll never convince me that libs are anything other than power hungry fascists!

Fascists? This is pretty stupid even for you, Joey.

BTW, no one buys your claims of being objective. Giving lip service to being anti-conservative is belied heavily by your semen shielding the ideology at every turn.

Oh and those traces you put up on your FB page look like shit. Never try to free hand please.

[pgardn]

yall are reeking of being a bunch of shithead libs so what's new? your side sucks and so does the other side. both sides should burn in hell and fast!

you're just upset because i won't bow down and suck the dick of the devil(ie; liberalism in its form in today's world). that's the truth of it. so call me non partisanship or whatever you'd like but you'll never convince me that libs are anything other than power hungry fascists!

Is part of being conservative not being able to change your mind?
Conserve your ideals no matter what facts come out.

Drain the swamp has changed the landscape...

[koriwhat]

Fascists? This is pretty stupid even for you, Joey.

BTW, no one buys your claims of being objective. Giving lip service to being anti-conservative is belied heavily by your semen shielding the ideology at every turn.

Oh and those traces you put up on your FB page look like shit. Never try to free hand please.

dude i don't give a fuck about you or your opinions anymore you fucking queer. fuck off mr wannabe!

prove we know each other personally or forever be ignored little bitch.

btw, that last statement cut straight to my heart... oh no you don't like shit i didn't trace nor shit you never saw. keep pretending pretender.

[koriwhat]

Is part of being conservative not being able to change your mind?

not sure... ask a conservative, not me.

[vy65]

The Koriwhat/fuzzy hs weed dealer (fucking lol)/burnout drama is the injection of new blood this forum sorely needs...

[DMX7]

Now I'm really pissed. Time for me to breakout the Roy Moore defense.

Al is a man of God! He is being unfairly persecuted! You know who else was unfairly persecuted??? Jesus! Ipso Facto, Not Guilty!!!

That's you're verdict, folks. Move along. Nothing to see here.

[koriwhat]

The Koriwhat/fuzzy hs weed dealer (fucking lol)/burnout drama is the injection of new blood this forum sorely needs...

lol that dude has a gripe, not i. you can blame him for ruining threads lately by trying his hardest to troll and playing make believe in his own head about our knowing each other "personally". dudes a crock of shit. he can't prove anything and yet here we are with his "joey" this and "joey" that but still no evidence of actually ever meeting me. he's a bitch and sorry yall have had to deal with this bs like i have.

[Chucho]

I'm still waiting for Yoni to explain his "possible extortion" theory RE: Moore's accusers.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you keep calling victims/accusers lying sluts.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

dude i don't give a fuck about you or your opinions anymore you fucking queer. fuck off mr wannabe!

prove we know each other personally or forever be ignored little bitch.

btw, that last statement cut straight to my heart... oh no you don't like shit i didn't trace nor shit you never saw. keep pretending pretender.

You have no justification for your comment about facism. It is what it is. If you tried totalitarian that would make more sense but you are too stupid for that.

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22228636_1576393862407085_8926545031708137343_n.jp g?oh=05b2a59db37c30a81b6ac59906bde13a&oe=5AA430CD

Terrible.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol that dude has a gripe, not i. you can blame him for ruining threads lately by trying his hardest to troll and playing make believe in his own head about our knowing each other "personally". dudes a crock of shit. he can't prove anything and yet here we are with his "joey" this and "joey" that but still no evidence of actually ever meeting me. he's a bitch and sorry yall have had to deal with this bs like i have.

Well if I am trying to troll you certainly do seem triggered so there is that. Hell, I got you to doxx yourself, Joey.

[koriwhat]

^ that faggot is still trying so hard... lmao what a loser.

[spurraider21]

yall are reeking of being a bunch of shithead libs so what's new? your side sucks and so does the other side. both sides should burn in hell and fast!

you're just upset because i won't bow down and suck the dick of the devil(ie; liberalism in its form in today's world). that's the truth of it. so call me non partisanship or whatever you'd like but you'll never convince me that libs are anything other than power hungry fascists!
most of your posts are long winded rants about liberals and liberalism and then you throw in the caveat of "i dont like the other side either"

wikileaks did a better job feigning non-partisanship

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^ that faggot is still trying so hard... lmao what a loser.


i wrote two sentences and got two rants out of you. I am not trying at all and you are triggered pretty damn hard, Joey.

[koriwhat]

^ still a fag

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^ still a fag

You can make baseless claims like that but people know for a fact that you have calf tats, are a terrible tattooist, and mooch. I like the tradeoff, Joey.

[koriwhat]

most of your posts are long winded rants about liberals and liberalism and then you throw in the caveat of "i dont like the other side either"

wikileaks did a better job feigning non-partisanship

look at it this way. i believe the liberal mentality these days is nothing more than a disease festered over the past 30 yrs through the media, entertainment, and most especially social networks like FB.

as for conservatism, i don't even care to look into its ideals or anything. same pretty much goes for liberalism. don't care. both ideologies are flawed and both need to be set out to the pasture.

believe i am conservative all you want because that's what libs do. if you aren't on their side then you're russian or repub. it is what it is and at the end of the day, you believing me or not does not matter to me at all. i don't know you and if i did it still wouldn't matter. don't care what you think of me or what i believe in. i'm not here to convince you of anything and not trying to.

[koriwhat]

^ is my stalker dime bag dope dealer crying more? boo hoo

[FuzzyLumpkins]

look at it this way. i believe the liberal mentality these days is nothing more than a disease festered over the past 30 yrs through the media, entertainment, and most especially social networks like FB.

as for conservatism, i don't even care to look into its ideals or anything. same pretty much goes for liberalism. don't care. both ideologies are flawed and both need to be set out to the pasture.

believe i am conservative all you want because that's what libs do. if you aren't on their side then you're russian or repub. it is what it is and at the end of the day, you believing me or not does not matter to me at all. i don't know you and if i did it still wouldn't matter. don't care what you think of me or what i believe in. i'm not here to convince you of anything and not trying to.

So liberalism is a disease and you cannot say one thing negative about conservatism. That was so very convincing, Joey.

[spurraider21]

most of your posts are long winded rants about liberals and liberalism and then you throw in the caveat of "i dont like the other side either"

wikileaks did a better job feigning non-partisanship


look at it this way. i believe the liberal mentality these days is nothing more than a disease festered over the past 30 yrs through the media, entertainment, and most especially social networks like FB.

as for conservatism, i don't even care to look into its ideals or anything. same pretty much goes for liberalism. don't care. both ideologies are flawed and both need to be set out to the pasture.

believe i am conservative all you want because that's what libs do. if you aren't on their side then you're russian or repub. it is what it is and at the end of the day, you believing me or not does not matter to me at all. i don't know you and if i did it still wouldn't matter. don't care what you think of me or what i believe in. i'm not here to convince you of anything and not trying to.
:lol literally case in point

[koriwhat]

:lol literally case in point

your point is... since i am not bashing conservatives here that somehow means i am affiliated with that party. i guess that's logical thinking for a lib but not sure because im not a lib nor a repub.

here, does this make it simple enough? fuck liberalism and fuck conservatism, both parties are a crock of shit and should be dismantled! or maybe i should just cave already and be a good little sheep and follow all them hipsters in their antifa isis outfits out to berkeley somewhere to protest nothing at all.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

your point is... since i am not bashing conservatives here that somehow means i am affiliated with that party. i guess that's logical thinking for a lib but not sure because im not a lib nor a repub.

here, does this make it simple enough? fuck liberalism and fuck conservatism, both parties are a crock of shit and should be dismantled! or maybe i should just cave already and be a good little sheep and follow all them hipsters in their antifa isis outfits out to berkeley somewhere to protest nothing at all.

This is pretty stupid. He is saying you go on long rants on one side and then give lip service towards the other. If you actually took issue with conservatism, you would be able to say something negative about it. For example:

I think modern conservatism is catering towards facists and racists like Spencer and Duke. I think the modern liberal leaders are corrupt and deceptive like Wassermann and Schumer.

Not:

ook at it this way. i believe the liberal mentality these days is nothing more than a disease festered over the past 30 yrs through the media, entertainment, and most especially social networks like FB.

as for conservatism, i don't even care to look into its ideals or anything

[koriwhat]

^ cuck

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^ cuck

And now you are going with the cliche alt-right insult. You are being very persuasive about your objectivity, Joey. Your mental toughness is on full display.

[koriwhat]

^ cuck... and a liar!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^ cuck... and a liar!


And now you are going with the cliche alt-right insult. You are being very persuasive about your objectivity, Joey. Your mental toughness is on full display.

[koriwhat]

^ cuck...

[TSA]

931357870024687616

931360196554821632

:rollin

[DMX7]

Al just needs to reply to that tweet with the Access Hollywood video. The orange clown admitted to serial sexual assault.

[Chucho]

He pitched a rape segment on SNL? Crazy.

[Spurminator]

:rollin

Man. You are really into Donald Trump.

[baseline bum]

931357870024687616

931360196554821632

:rollin

Are you laughing at the irony of Trump tweeting about sexual harrassment?

[AaronY]

931357870024687616

931360196554821632

:rollin
Dang that ratio

[AaronY]

Franken really should stepped down today. Had a chance for the party to take the moral high ground and shit the bed. Plus it was the right thing to do

[diego]

Am I the only one who finds this Franken thing to be an over reaction? He overstepped a kiss and took a picture touching a clothed woman wearing body armor in a clearly humorous situation surrounded by other people, it's inappropriate, not funny etc etc etc but I don't see at all how this is similar to sexual assault or rape or pedophilia. At worst, mild sexual harassment.

Funny all the board conservatives who love exaggerating about "consent taken after the fact", "just jokes/locker room talk" are going crazy about a guy taking a picture touching her body armor. Again, crude, inappropriate etc etc etc but unless there are several situations like this or something more serious I don't see what the story is beyond looking for a political "tie"

[diego]

Eh sorry loaded the thread earlier and missed a bunch of similar replies

[sickdsm]

Am I the only one who finds this Franken thing to be an over reaction? He overstepped a kiss and took a picture touching a clothed woman wearing body armor in a clearly humorous situation surrounded by other people, it's inappropriate, not funny etc etc etc but I don't see at all how this is similar to sexual assault or rape or pedophilia. At worst, mild sexual harassment.

Funny all the board conservatives who love exaggerating about "consent taken after the fact", "just jokes/locker room talk" are going crazy about a guy taking a picture touching her body armor. Again, crude, inappropriate etc etc etc but unless there are several situations like this or something more serious I don't see what the story is beyond looking for a political "tie"

Story would have been how you described it if he stopped after the kiss. He didn't. He displayed continued arrogance and humiliation. Clearly he knew she was pissed but didn't give a fuck. And Its disturbing that it was not 30 years ago. Ones attitude doesn't change in a dozen years that much.


I think you need to look at yourself "touching her body armour"?

Groping isn't groping if she has panties or a bra on then. Just touching her Victoria's Secret.

[pgardn]

Of course there are varying degrees. And people have their own creeper index. I think it also could be taken in context of the times and situation.

Moore actually went so far as talking to the parents of the young girls he wanted to date. I sense this to be some attempt to ask for permission but then also a power play in going after such young girls. And then of course the huge step of unwanted advances and touching. I don't think Moore believes he did anything wrong. " I'm an older male, this is what I do."

Franken. I can see him thinking this is a big joke but taking advantage of this joke by going farther than the victim wanted. A comedian pushing the boundary because that's what you do. He did not try and run from it and apologized. But did not bring it up himself. And he knew he pushed it at the time.

Now we put this in the frame of now after the absolutely abhorrent behavior of Hollywood types. Neither of the above got close to the examples that started this. It's the same theme though, a power play. A "Because I can", move. But the degree of physical contact and the state of the victim's position are not the same.

Then we got Trump bragging... His insecurity is massive. He must belittle people around him. What he just pulled with the Prime Minister of New Zealand continues his transgressions. But she punched back pretty hard. So I guess all is well. Mouthy insecure males like Trump just need to be embarrassed in front of a group of other males. I would be happy to slap him around in front of his colleagues, not hurt him, just ground him and mess his hair up. He needs it.

Then we got little Willy Clinton. Wow... Slimy. This is a guy who absolutely knew he was breaking all kinds of social limits.

[RandomGuy]

as for conservatism, i don't even care to look into its ideals or anything. same pretty much goes for liberalism. don't care. both ideologies are flawed and both need to be set out to the pasture..

Ok, fine.

What is wrong with modern conservatism? Be specific.

[RandomGuy]

Am I the only one who finds this Franken thing to be an over reaction? He overstepped a kiss and took a picture touching a clothed woman wearing body armor in a clearly humorous situation surrounded by other people, it's inappropriate, not funny etc etc etc but I don't see at all how this is similar to sexual assault or rape or pedophilia. At worst, mild sexual harassment.

Funny all the board conservatives who love exaggerating about "consent taken after the fact", "just jokes/locker room talk" are going crazy about a guy taking a picture touching her body armor. Again, crude, inappropriate etc etc etc but unless there are several situations like this or something more serious I don't see what the story is beyond looking for a political "tie"

The woman says that he groped her, based on the picture, but the picture doesn't show any contact. He expressed a great deal of remorse. As I said, I am willing to let a one-off slide, with some contrition.

If it is part of a pattern, then he should really go, just like Trump should, who has been accused of everything up to, and including, rape.
.

[pgardn]

Ok, fine.

What is wrong with modern conservatism? Be specific.

Man that is a huge slow pitch soft ball... (With the obvious split in the party right now)

Will he whiff?

[RandomGuy]

How about the source of the accusation?

https://twitter.com/MelMorgan1350/status/931221482671300609



As I'm doing on Roy Moore.

By giving Roy Moore the benefit of the doubt after the stories that have come out, including his being banned from a mall, you are a fucking moron, and the worst kind of partisan hack.

The second provided source, Morgan, hasn't directly put out a statement. The ONLY source saying she has an accusation to make is a shitty website that peddles conspiracy theories, you fucking moronic partisan hack. The time to believe that is when she puts out a direct statement in a source that doesn't peddle "Las Vegas shooting was staged" conspiracy theories.

Unless of course you think the Las Vegas shooting was staged by the government using actors?
.

[RandomGuy]

Man that is a huge slow pitch soft ball... (With the obvious split in the party right now)

Will he whiff?

He will. What is funny is that he is not alone here. It's like some people need some cool cred by saying they are above the fray, and cynical about both sides, but then do nothing but bitch about "libs". No skin off my nose, other than I hate being lied to, even if the person telling the lie is so delusional they believe it.

[RandomGuy]

Sounds like your getting defensive on his actions

Meh. If some part of the polity in this country wants to vilify intelligence and education, that is on them, as long as they don't complain when people take the ignorant, stupid shit that comes out of their mouth seriously. The earth is not 6000 years old.

[RandomGuy]

To compare a contrite politician's acts from before his political career when he was a comedian to a child rapist is lunacy. He was a comedian doing a bit. She waited 10 years. I have some real problems with this -- especially trying to equivocate it with banging a 12 year old.

Yup. I am all for not doing this shit, but let's have some common sense when it comes to it.

[RandomGuy]

who is next?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif

I think a lot of men are (usually rightly) sweating that question.

[RandomGuy]

These things are never one-offs. I bet we'll see four or five more women come forward just like with Pedo Roy. Franken is done.

If that is the case, he should go. No argument from me there.

[RandomGuy]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Nf_Y4MbUCLY

That one doesn't work any more. Shoot someone did it... I shoulda written it down.

[pgardn]

I think a lot of men are (usually rightly) sweating that question.

I hope the sweat so much they get no sleep.
It should torture them.

[vy65]

Am I the only one who finds this Franken thing to be an over reaction? He overstepped a kiss and took a picture touching a clothed woman wearing body armor in a clearly humorous situation surrounded by other people, it's inappropriate, not funny etc etc etc but I don't see at all how this is similar to sexual assault or rape or pedophilia. At worst, mild sexual harassment.

Funny all the board conservatives who love exaggerating about "consent taken after the fact", "just jokes/locker room talk" are going crazy about a guy taking a picture touching her body armor. Again, crude, inappropriate etc etc etc but unless there are several situations like this or something more serious I don't see what the story is beyond looking for a political "tie"

This

[sickdsm]

Meh. If some part of the polity in this country wants to vilify intelligence and education, that is on them, as long as they don't complain when people take the ignorant, stupid shit that comes out of their mouth seriously. The earth is not 6000 years old.
I noticed you never responded to the snobby liberal elite comment. My sister worked closely with Norm Coleman in his Senate bid against Franken and that's EXACTLY the reputation Franken had. If you want to dismiss actions like this as anything but an elitist attitude, then your just as much as a problem. Instead, like everything else, this story has turnedinto a sliding scale of actions. Will Moore and Trump be forgotten when a story breaks about politician dismembering his victims? Sad times for America indeed. Wonder where my kids will wishthey lived in 30 years.........

[RandomGuy]

I noticed you never responded to the snobby liberal elite comment.

I thought I did. What exactly do you want a response for? Be specific, and I will give it a shot.

(confused)

[sickdsm]

Meh. If some part of the polity in this country wants to vilify intelligence and education, that is on them, as long as they don't complain when people take the ignorant, stupid shit that comes out of their mouth seriously. The earth is not 6000 years old.

Intelligence and education. What part of this story screams that? He harassed her the full trip. And had pictures taken. His actions screamed "fuck you, I'm Rich, bitch" to her. But you dismiss those who mention elitist.

[boutons_deux]

Trump weighs in on “really bad” Franken accusations — but stays silent on Roy Moore

The president is often loudest when he remains silent, and in the wake of several allegations, he wants to divide

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/17/trump-weighs-in-on-really-bad-franken-accusations-but-stays-silent-on-roy-moore/

Franken's accuser tells the truth, but all 16 or so of Trash's accusers are ALL lying, proof is here:

https://www.bravenewfilms.org/16women

[RandomGuy]

Intelligence and education. What part of this story screams that? He harassed her the full trip. And had pictures taken. His actions screamed "fuck you, I'm Rich, bitch" to her. But you dismiss those who mention elitist.

We are talking past each other a bit here. My comment was taking issue with the term "elitist liberal", because I find that term to be useless and counter productive, and not really in any way a comment about Franken specifically.

I really don't know exactly what was in his mind, and wouldn't go so far as to comment beyond the obvious actions.

[sickdsm]

We are talking past each other a bit here. My comment was taking issue with the term "elitist liberal", because I find that term to be useless and counter productive, and not really in any way a comment about Franken specifically.

I really don't know exactly what was in his mind, and wouldn't go so far as to comment beyond the obvious actions.
Liberal elitist, imo, refers to the liberals that feel that they are smarter, more educated, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. They are entitled because your stupid. This differs from a conservative elitist who feels that anyone who struggles just didn't work long enough hours or is lazy. I tend to think of the basic white girl who says she worked hard in college and studied but between student loans and mom and dad didnot work a real job. She didn't have to buy a car, insurance, or worry about food or cell phone.


Anyone who disagrees with liberal policies is uneducated, and white trash welfare living in Bumfuck, Pennsatucky.

[RandomGuy]

Liberal elitist, imo, refers to the liberals that feel that they are smarter, more educated, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. They are entitled because your stupid. This differs from a conservative elitist who feels that anyone who struggles just didn't work long enough hours or is lazy. I tend to think of the basic white girl who says she worked hard in college and studied but between student loans and mom and dad didnot work a real job. She didn't have to buy a car, insurance, or worry about food or cell phone.

Anyone who disagrees with liberal policies is uneducated, and white trash welfare living in Bumfuck, Pennsatucky.

That I can agree with.

Policies are good or bad based on what evidence and reality. People that disagree with me are not inherently bad because they disagree with me. Some of my best friends are conservative evangelicals who pray for me on occasion. They are good people.

That said, your actions or thoughts in some things are the definition of being a shit-head. Defending Moore at this point, is past that line.

[sickdsm]

That I can agree with.

Policies are good or bad based on what evidence and reality. People that disagree with me are not inherently bad because they disagree with me. Some of my best friends are conservative evangelicals who pray for me on occasion. They are good people.

That said, your actions or thoughts in some things are the definition of being a shit-head. Defending Moore at this point, is past that line.

Your liberal elitist is showing. Ive ripped trump and Moore. Where have I defended him? There is no defending after his radio interview.

[sickdsm]

Your liberal elitist is showing. Ive ripped trump and Moore. Where have I defended him? There is no defending after his radio interview.
Some of my best friends are........



Did you get that line from the white guy defending accusations of racism? We all know how believable that reasoning is when someonetries to use it.............

[AaronY]

Was disappointed this was just swept under the rug w/o him resigning. Been even more disappointing that my Twitter feed has even a few libtards that been slut shaming her smh

[RandomGuy]

Some of my best friends are........

Did you get that line from the white guy defending accusations of racism? We all know how believable that reasoning is when someonetries to use it.............

Again, I think you are right. Not going to argue there.

It is what it is. I have drifted from them, mostly due to being busy, and no small part to finding their gloating insufferable after Trump won. Sad is the one with brain damage, who draws social security disability. He is not outright so mentally disabled that he can't function, but makes a really good parrot for the stuff he hears at church. I always know exactly what the Baptists are truly thinking. He is torn because he has to suck on the welfare teat (physical deformation as well), but just doesn't have the cognitive function to reject stupid ideas.

The one longtime friend I wouldn't mind salvaging occasionally would take issue with him, but still thinks that voter ID laws are necessary because of fraud, even after I invited him to search for evidence of it, and he couldn't find any. Even he is starting to buy into all sorts of right-wing conspiracy theories.

[The Gemini Method]

The back and forth in this thread is entertaining.

[sickdsm]

Again, I think you are right. Not going to argue there.

It is what it is. I have drifted from them, mostly due to being busy, and no small part to finding their gloating insufferable after Trump won. Sad is the one with brain damage, who draws social security disability. He is not outright so mentally disabled that he can't function, but makes a really good parrot for the stuff he hears at church. I always know exactly what the Baptists are truly thinking. He is torn because he has to suck on the welfare teat (physical deformation as well), but just doesn't have the cognitive function to reject stupid ideas.

The one longtime friend I wouldn't mind salvaging occasionally would take issue with him, but still thinks that voter ID laws are necessary because of fraud, even after I invited him to search for evidence of it, and he couldn't find any. Even he is starting to buy into all sorts of right-wing conspiracy theories.

I found this forum during the Duncan/kg battles. I stayed because of the political forum. I stay because in my field and area I'm surrounded by conservatives. This forum is highly liberal. Are you actually trying to enlighten yourself with the opposing views or are you just happen to look past the thought that your buddy, who's really cool, still thinks Dubya was a decent President?

[RandomGuy]

The back and forth in this thread is entertaining.


We try. Welcome to the Monkey pit.

[spurraider21]

Liberal elitist, imo, refers to the liberals that feel that they are smarter, more educated, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. They are entitled because your stupid. This differs from a conservative elitist who feels that anyone who struggles just didn't work long enough hours or is lazy. I tend to think of the basic white girl who says she worked hard in college and studied but between student loans and mom and dad didnot work a real job. She didn't have to buy a car, insurance, or worry about food or cell phone.


Anyone who disagrees with liberal policies is uneducated, and white trash welfare living in Bumfuck, Pennsatucky.
So do you call conservatives who think all liberals are idiots conservative elitists?

[RandomGuy]

I found this forum during the Duncan/kg battles. I stayed because of the political forum. I stay because in my field and area I'm surrounded by conservatives. This forum is highly liberal. Are you actually trying to enlighten yourself with the opposing views or are you just happen to look past the thought that your buddy, who's really cool, still thinks Dubya was a decent President?

I think it is important to hear opposing views. I read Fox "news" and various op eds, and have some conservative think tanks that I check in on from time to time. Information bubbles are bad, IMO. It is one of the reasons I argue stuff here, although the quality/quantity of conservative posting seems to have dropped off.

The polarization of the country in microcosm. Moderate conservatives are more than a bit disillusioned and give up, and you end up with hacks like Yonivore, ducks, and Wild Cobra.

[monosylab1k]

Was disappointed this was just swept under the rug w/o him resigning. Been even more disappointing that my Twitter feed has even a few libtards that been slut shaming her smh

Yeah I was prety disappointed by this too. Figured this was the perfect opportunity to show that liberals aren’t hypocrites and would disown Franken, but basically all my liberal friends did the “if these allegations are proven true, then...” bullshit, talked about how she’s not credible due to being friends with Hannity, even went full retard claiming this is a Roger Stone masterminded conspiracy.

[The Gemini Method]

We try. Welcome to the Monkey pit.
Oh, I frequent message boards across the spectrum. So even if this is hardcore, at least both sides stick to their beliefs even if some of the arguments seem uninspired. Keep up the debates.

[DarrinS]

Again, I think you are right. Not going to argue there.

It is what it is. I have drifted from them, mostly due to being busy, and no small part to finding their gloating insufferable after Trump won. Sad is the one with brain damage, who draws social security disability. He is not outright so mentally disabled that he can't function, but makes a really good parrot for the stuff he hears at church. I always know exactly what the Baptists are truly thinking. He is torn because he has to suck on the welfare teat (physical deformation as well), but just doesn't have the cognitive function to reject stupid ideas.

The one longtime friend I wouldn't mind salvaging occasionally would take issue with him, but still thinks that voter ID laws are necessary because of fraud, even after I invited him to search for evidence of it, and he couldn't find any. Even he is starting to buy into all sorts of right-wing conspiracy theories.


Sounds like a true story. I like how you made one of the characters a bible-thumping retard who lives off the guvment. Trifecta. :tu

[TSA]

By giving Roy Moore the benefit of the doubt after the stories that have come out, including his being banned from a mall, you are a fucking moron, and the worst kind of partisan hack.

The second provided source, Morgan, hasn't directly put out a statement. The ONLY source saying she has an accusation to make is a shitty website that peddles conspiracy theories, you fucking moronic partisan hack. The time to believe that is when she puts out a direct statement in a source that doesn't peddle "Las Vegas shooting was staged" conspiracy theories.

Unless of course you think the Las Vegas shooting was staged by the government using actors?
.

You might want to re-check the "being banned from the mall" angle you are pushing as the mall manager Boyle said it never happened.

[RandomGuy]

I didn’t do this to have him step down. I think Al Franken does a lot of good things in the Senate,” Tweeden said when asked if he should resign. “You know, I think that’s for the people of Minnesota to decide. I’m not calling for him to step down. That was never my intention.

“I just wanted him to understand what he did was wrong and how he treated me and how abusers do that under the guise that it’s funny, or that ‘Oh, I can get away with it because I’m a comedian,’" Tweeden continued. “That’s never funny. When you shine a light on it, that’s the culture of it — that’s the chance we need to make.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/al-franken-accuser-leeann-tweeden-does-not-want-him-driven-from-office/ar-BBF5Gxp?li=BBnb7Kz

FWIW.

[RandomGuy]

You might want to re-check the "being banned from the mall" angle you are pushing as the mall manager Boyle said it never happened.

By giving Roy Moore the benefit of the doubt after the stories that have come out, you are a fucking moron, and the worst kind of partisan hack.

Sure. No problem. Defending Roy Moore with or without that bit still makes Yonivore a fucking moronic partisan hack.

Better?

[Reck]

You might want to re-check the "being banned from the mall" angle you are pushing as the mall manager Boyle said it never happened.

Funny how Moore hasn't even bothered to denied he was banned. And even funnier that this guy is a Moore supporter who will vote for him. Despite all the pedo allegations.

Also a former police officer is on teh record verifying the validity of the claim.

You're the pedo-in-chief here. Im shocked you're standing for this.

[RandomGuy]

Sounds like a true story. I like how you made one of the characters a bible-thumping retard who lives off the guvment. Trifecta. :tu

He had an infection as an infant. Oddly he has a brother who looks just like him, down to the mustache.

He is not quite retarded, but the same infection that destroyed the growth plates in his limbs got into his brain as well, and they had to remove a section of his skull. He does poorly on many higher order functions of logic, abstract thinking, and math.

I will tell him you think he doesn't exist. He will find that funny. :lol

(edit) It is simply brain damage that resulted in life-long cognitive and physical impairment. (/edit)

[RandomGuy]

Oh, I frequent message boards across the spectrum. So even if this is hardcore, at least both sides stick to their beliefs even if some of the arguments seem uninspired. Keep up the debates.

You missed some of the 9-11 conspiracy theory debates. Those were interesting.

[TSA]

By giving Roy Moore the benefit of the doubt after the stories that have come out, you are a fucking moron, and the worst kind of partisan hack.

Sure. No problem. Defending Roy Moore with or without that bit still makes Yonivore a fucking moronic partisan hack.

Better?

That's better. Just helping you get your ducks in a row.

[TSA]

Funny how Moore hasn't even bothered to denied he was banned. And even funnier that this guy is a Moore supporter who will vote for him. Despite all the pedo allegations.

Also a former police officer is on teh record verifying the validity of the claim.

You're the pedo-in-chief here. Im shocked you're standing for this.

Where am I "standing for this"? :lol
You are so dumb it's shocking.

[Spurminator]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/15/roy-moores-bizarre-attorney-steps-forward-to-offer-bizarre-defense-of-roy-moore/?utm_term=.1ab133e04ef5


The web site for Garmon's law firm and a YouTube channel featuring videos of Garmon (Roy Moore's defense attourney) describe a practice that largely deals in personal injury cases, including "botched abortions." A bio on the web site prominently features the fact that Garmon played college football at Troy University, including discussing the major schools and future NFL players the team played against. It also includes his having won a "pizza party" while serving as a cadet at West Point.

Hmmmmmmm.... Any second thoughts, TSA?

[TSA]

He had an infection as an infant. Oddly he has a brother who looks just like him, down to the mustache.

He is not quite retarded, but the same infection that destroyed the growth plates in his limbs got into his brain as well, and they had to remove a section of his skull. He does poorly on many higher order functions of logic, abstract thinking, and math.

I will tell him you think he doesn't exist. He will find that funny. :lol

Poker buddy?

[The Gemini Method]

You missed some of the 9-11 conspiracy theory debates. Those were interesting.I have perused those threads as well. Good/Bad stuff tbh.

[sickdsm]

He had an infection as an infant. Oddly he has a brother who looks just like him, down to the mustache.

He is not quite retarded, but the same infection that destroyed the growth plates in his limbs got into his brain as well, and they had to remove a section of his skull. He does poorly on many higher order functions of logic, abstract thinking, and math.

I will tell him you think he doesn't exist. He will find that funny. :lol

And he just added retarded...........

[RandomGuy]

That said, your actions or thoughts in some things are the definition of being a shit-head.


Your liberal elitist is showing. Ive ripped trump and Moore. Where have I defended him? There is no defending after his radio interview.

My foul here. Unnecessary roughness. mixed thoughts/sentences, was thinking of more generally.

"That said, actions or thoughts are the things that define being a shit-head."

My apologies. I was a bit confused by your response until I went back and re-read it. Makes sense now.

[koriwhat]

Ok, fine.

What is wrong with modern conservatism? Be specific.

lol be specific. why you trolls always so demanding? power complex much?

as for your question... just because i haven't sat here and actually downed this guy or that guy in the conservative party doesn't mean i like or relate to that party. as i have said before, real liberalism died decades ago and the manifestation of liberalism today is more repressive. from free speech to the 2nd amendment, liberals want to silence it all. sad but true. that's the liberal ideology i can't stand and usually it's hipsters, young 20 yr olds with no life experience, old crotchety hippys that are now biz people, professors, etc... a scourge on our society!

[RandomGuy]

That's better. Just helping you get your ducks in a row.


"I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and begging him to stop. I had tears running down my face," Nelson said in her statement.

"At some point, he gave up. He then looked at me and said, ‘You are a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County. If you tell anyone about this, no one will believe you,'" Nelson added.

Just so you have your ducks in a row. Quibble over mall bannings, and ignore the rape stuff. Magic "R" to the rescue.

[RandomGuy]

How about the source of the accusation?

https://twitter.com/MelMorgan1350/status/931221482671300609



As I'm doing on Roy Moore.


"I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and begging him to stop. I had tears running down my face," Nelson said in her statement.

"At some point, he gave up. He then looked at me and said, ‘You are a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County. If you tell anyone about this, no one will believe you,'" Nelson added.

You keep not believing her. The judge has the magic "R" that you have to protect at all costs.