Derrick White

[Pavlov]

White didn't play enough at the point to make anyone think he's competing with Murray for minutes.

[From Downtown]

He's legit

[BackHome]

White didn't play enough at the point to make anyone think he's competing with Murray for minutes.

The few games he played in he did very well and showed he was clearly One of the better ball handlers second to only Manu and Tony.

Thats why I like older players unless they really special. Guys like Murray and Walker take two to three years to be NBA ready

[look_at_g_shred]

He's tony's replacement more than Manu's

[BackHome]

The one thing that I really like about White is that he can get guys easy looks. I can see him playing with Murray and doing a lot of a club door cuts for easy dunks for Walker or Murray.

[K...]

I'm thinking Mills white would work, then Murray belli. Green moves more to SF in the 3 guard lineup.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm hoping he gets some run. I would like to see him and Walker both crack the rotation.

[Mr. Body]

The one thing that I really like about White is that he can get guys easy looks. I can see him playing with Murray and doing a lot of a club door cuts for easy dunks for Walker or Murray.

His court vision is way beyond Murray's.

[SAGirl]

Beli and White are completely different players and DWhite has gotten a chance to get over himself tbh......

So please get it right, Beli is gonna eat Lonnie's minutes :lol
Yup. I expect White to get an opportunity to play this upcoming season and Walker to go to Austin.

[SAGirl]

Dejounte was terrible in summer league tbh, White looks to be the superior NBA player already. I wouldn't be surprised if White is the starting 2 guard 10 games in since he'll be the only guard on the team that can create a shot.
Agreed. In summer league Dejounte didn't look like he could get his shot and thus he kept attempting very ugly floaters (and missing). If anything, his maturation as a player is that he has learned to run Pops system and score oo look for shots within that system. A lot of his scoring came on offensive rebounds or cuts. In PNR, Dejounte still needs a lot of work. We shall see what happens this upcoming season. He may work on that this summer and hopefully be better.

[SpursDynasty85]

At this point it is safe to say Green is our 3. Mills is our SG now with DJ at pg. I see Derrick White as backup pg and Marco/Manu as our back up sg and 3. Anderson and Gay as our 4s. Gasol and Aldrodge as our 5s. TP will probably be our 3rd pg.

[timtonymanu]

Where’s my nigga 4tres at?

Nice play tonight. We know Pop is gonna hold back his potential this year to justify that scrub Mills and his 50 million, but White has been nice to watch regardless. :tu

[SAGirl]

Great game tonight. :tu
Hoping for more games like that.

[spurs10]

Great game tonight. :tu
Hoping for more games like that. Yep!

[BlackAndWhite]

Still needs to find his shot

[Mugen]

Dude just needs to continue to be aggressive and look for his shot more. Part of that is on him and the other is on the coaching staff to get him minutes where he doesn't have to defer to Derozan or Fatty

[objective]

Dude just needs to continue to be aggressive and look for his shot more. Part of that is on him and the other is on the coaching staff to get him minutes where he doesn't have to defer to Derozan or Fatty

I agree.

The biggest thing that would help White and his scoring is Pop limiting Fatty's minutes.

White is hamstrung because he only gets the first 6 minutes of each half to play before Fatty gets subbed, often times he only gets 5:30 or so. But as the point guard, he has to make sure the two divas get their touches and looks so they don't start pouting, while also accounting for iso-rudy. On top of all that he has to watch out for Rudy pulling "point Gay" and deciding to be the ballhandler after rebounds.

If Pop would take Mills down to 15 and only increase it when someone's playing terribly, I think White would have more time to get his scoring rhythm.

[Spurs da champs]

Love watching him on defense and running the offense. Just wish he could hit 3's, I'm sure that will come in time tho.

[dbestpro]

Did he have a defensive coming out party or was it a fluke. Whatever good he did he threw it all away by missing free throws in clutch time. Yes, he was not the only one, but it was his game to shine.

[exstatic]

Did he have a defensive coming out party or was it a fluke. Whatever good he did he threw it all away by missing free throws in clutch time. Yes, he was not the only one, but it was his game to shine.

He missed ONE FUCKING FT, so perhaps you should STFU, and stop being a moron.

[ceperez]

I agree.

The biggest thing that would help White and his scoring is Pop limiting Fatty's minutes.

White is hamstrung because he only gets the first 6 minutes of each half to play before Fatty gets subbed, often times he only gets 5:30 or so. But as the point guard, he has to make sure the two divas get their touches and looks so they don't start pouting, while also accounting for iso-rudy. On top of all that he has to watch out for Rudy pulling "point Gay" and deciding to be the ballhandler after rebounds.

If Pop would take Mills down to 15 and only increase it when someone's playing terribly, I think White would have more time to get his scoring rhythm.

Unlike Forbes who's only role seem to shoot the ball, White has to do a ton of thinking on offense.

That's perhaps why he is missing the open 3s. He just needs more time. This will come, just need to be patient.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, his shooting will totally come around. He's trying to get up to speed on every other function of the game right now.

[C-Dub]

White could be in the running for the 6th man of the year next season (2019/2020). Once his 3pt shot starts falling at the NBA level like it was in the G-League, which may take a full season of playing a major roll (6th man) could lead to him starting next to Murray in the (2020/2021) season. Besides the fact that the Spurs would have maybe the best defensive backcourt in the league, White would also be able to relieve some of the point guard pressure if teams try and hound Murray (High Dribble) the way P. Beverly did a couple years ago.

[dbestpro]

He missed ONE FUCKING FT, so perhaps you should STFU, and stop being a moron.

Awe, did poor little baby get a boo boo. Missing a clutch free throw that cost the game is what it is and no amount of tears from you will change that.
Now, man up, blow your nose and stop the sobbing, whining, crying, etc.

[XDT76]

Did he have a defensive coming out party or was it a fluke. Whatever good he did he threw it all away by missing free throws in clutch time. Yes, he was not the only one, but it was his game to shine.

No he did not the FT is not worth more than 1 point the Spurs would still had lost the game if he hit that FT. Without White in the third quarter there would totally be no discussion on the ending. This loss is on the big's poor defensive rebounding, the 3pt Squads for failing to hit 3 pointers, the all stars player unable to score in clutch time, the rest of the squad unable to stop Denver from scoring. It is not on White who is on the Squad for defence. In the 3rd quarter the rest of the team allows Denver to score almost as many points in 1+ min as the 10+ min White is playing.

[BackHome]

Fucking Idiots saying White sucks.

[Gordy58]

Defense are going to eventually pay for going under on screens against him

[Gordy58]

Also, him and Dejounte are gonna make a hell of a defensive combo

[Seventyniner]

Fucking Idiots saying White sucks.

Same as the ones who said Anderson sucked.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Dude plays like a vet, the game slows down for him. Once his 3 starts falling and he gets more confident to shoot when they go under screens on him he'll be really good.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Same as the ones who said Anderson sucked.
Anderson did suck. For us anyways. He had the green light to shoot and just refused to. It completely ruined our offense bc of how gun shy he was

[BackHome]

I liked Anderson but people were right you can’t be in the NBA and be scarred to shoot unless your name is Howard or Rodman. The issue which caused the most problems is that he would always be open with a few seconds on the clock and then not shoot but pass to someone with maybe 2 or 3 seconds.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHoh3qo8po0

[objective]

I'd like to see White get across half court faster and get things started quicker. Maybe the more leisurely pace is what's helped him keep control of his dribble and not be in danger of turning it over that was his big problem in preseason.

[exstatic]

No he did not the FT is not worth more than 1 point the Spurs would still had lost the game if he hit that FT. Without White in the third quarter there would totally be no discussion on the ending. This loss is on the big's poor defensive rebounding, the 3pt Squads for failing to hit 3 pointers, the all stars player unable to score in clutch time, the rest of the squad unable to stop Denver from scoring. It is not on White who is on the Squad for defence. In the 3rd quarter the rest of the team allows Denver to score almost as many points in 1+ min as the 10+ min White is playing.

You’ll only confuse the moron with facts like one missed FT doesn’t cost the team a 3 point loss.

[Philthemage]

Unlike Forbes who's only role seem to shoot the ball, White has to do a ton of thinking on offense.

That's perhaps why he is missing the open 3s. He just needs more time. This will come, just need to be patient.

I think Forbes has benefitted a lot from White coming back and running the point + defending the opposing wings. This has allowed him on offense to just shoot and focus on scoring and on offense be able to hide him on less talented guys.

[playbonner15]

Also, him and Dejounte are gonna make a hell of a defensive combo
Really want to see this + Poetl. Just not sure who will bring the ball and call the plays

[coachmac87]

Spurs need White to play defense and create opportunities for others. He’s a way better shooter than he’s showing this year and once he masters his current role he will be golden.

[Gordy58]

Really want to see this + Poetl. Just not sure who will bring the ball and call the plays
I think Murray will bring up the ball, I remember seeing somewhere that spurs wanted Murray to lead fastbreaks as soon as he got a rebound. Something like a Westbrook type of role and push the pace. I like White playing off ball especially if he can get his shooting percentages up.
Hopefully lonnie also develops to get a rotation spot next season. We just need a 3 and D forward.

[offset formation]

I think Murray will bring up the ball, I remember seeing somewhere that spurs wanted Murray to lead fastbreaks as soon as he got a rebound. Something like a Westbrook type of role and push the pace. I like White playing off ball especially if he can get his shooting percentages up.
Hopefully lonnie also develops to get a rotation spot next season. We just need a 3 and D forward.

Conceivably, all three could play the 3 defensively, at least for stretches and against some or most opponents. In fact, they could all really guard the 1-3 given their length and quickness.

[objective]

I think Murray will bring up the ball, I remember seeing somewhere that spurs wanted Murray to lead fastbreaks as soon as he got a rebound. Something like a Westbrook type of role and push the pace. I like White playing off ball especially if he can get his shooting percentages up.
Hopefully lonnie also develops to get a rotation spot next season. We just need a 3 and D forward.

That's fair, White doesn't get across half court with great speed or get the offense going immediately. Murray is such a great rebounder that he can grab and go, then if there's no opportunities then White can make plays in the half court offense.

[dbestpro]

You’ll only confuse the moron with facts like one missed FT doesn’t cost the team a 3 point loss.

Do you even watch the games? He makes the free throw the outcome changes. Have you ever watched a basketball game other than the YMCA?

[exstatic]

Do you even know math? One FT cannot be the difference in a 3 point game.

1< 3


Do you even watch the games? He makes the free throw the outcome changes. Have you ever watched a basketball game other than the YMCA?

[FkLA]

PopaGOAT and RC did it again. What a fucking steal. I know hes like 29 already but still this guy is special. :cry

[emanueldavidginobili]

Derrick White still a 70 on 2k cmon smh hahaha

[SpurPadre]

PopaGOAT and RC did it again. What a fucking steal. I know hes like 29 already but still this guy is special. :cry

Dude just had his first 20 point game and is barely younger than Manu...let's hold off on the special talk, tbh.

[FkLA]

Dude just had his first 20 point game and is barely younger than Manu...let's hold off on the special talk, tbh.

This is just the beginning. His coming out party. White is very good, tbh.

[tim_duncan_fan]

His effect on the team is undeniable, whether he goes on to raise his scoring average near 20 or not.

[SpurPadre]

This is just the beginning. His coming out party. White is very good, tbh.

Hope you're right. He does have the potential.

[Mr. Body]

He was a superior player tonight. I think we'll see this more and more.

[MaNu4Tres]

Several people in the organization thought he was the best guard on the team....


Last season..


He checked all boxes watching him all last year..even if it was in Austin.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Whose the last Spur in their first real season all around game on both sides of the ball looked this good?

[Snaq O'Meal]

Whose the last Spur in their first real season all around game on both sides of the ball looked this good?

Dejuan Blair.

[r0drig0lac]

his consistency is finally showing off, defensively incredible, and his harden-like cleverness puts him at an advantage against most opponents, he completely destabilized the defensive system of boston (that could no longer control Aldridge)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qjviscTnlY

[ceperez]

his consistency is finally showing off, defensively incredible, and his harden-like cleverness puts him at an advantage against most opponents, he completely destabilized the defensive system of boston (that could no longer control Aldridge)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qjviscTnlY

Amazing how he keeps on reading the defense, the guy is a genius on the court and is only going to get much better. Smartest player in the Spurs roster.

[Dejounte]

I've said it so many times. This dude is our next Manu.

[Ocotillo]

Glad to see White's confidence growing. He had this game against Kyrie too so hopefully it only increases it more.

[acoelho1]

He's better than I thought defensively and I love his pace out on the court. Never really gets rattled and has a very high basketball IQ. I was worried before the season about having enough play-makers but now with DD and White, we have to above average guys that can create for their teammates. I think we have only scratched the surface on how good this team can be.

[look_at_g_shred]

I saw enough last year against GSW in the reg season where he was making great defensive plays to rattle steph/klay. I knew it wasn’t a fluke. Then and there I knew he had “it” I’ve been watching the NBA long enough to know when a player is special.

[RodNIc91]

Several people in the organization thought he was the best guard on the team....


Last season..


He checked all boxes watching him all last year..even if it was in Austin.

Even ahead of Murray??

[emanueldavidginobili]

Crazy this kid played 3 years of D2, what a story hopefully he keeps it up.

[John B]

Don’t laugh now, but I see White as Jason Kidd. Big guard, excellent court vision and the whole game, defensive catalyst, doesn’t get rattled. Yes I say, Jason Kidd, without the fancy passes now but will get there once he starts attacking the ring more, dishing. Now start laughing but when the time comes, I will get back to this post and I say, I told you so. This Spurs version of Kidd is going to be a star.

[CGD]

White looks very promising. It’s going to be interesting to see how he and Murray mesh next year, but if they can figure it out it’ll be a very dynamic backcourt with DDR slotting down to the 3.

[Mr. Body]

Don’t laugh now, but I see White as Jason Kidd. Big guard, excellent court vision and the whole game, defensive catalyst, doesn’t get rattled. Yes I say, Jason Kidd, without the fancy passes now but will get there once he starts attacking the ring more, dishing. Now start laughing but when the time comes, I will get back to this post and I say, I told you so. This Spurs version of Kidd is going to be a star.

I won't project how good White will be, but his game is a bit different than Kidd's. He doesn't quite have the court vision, although his is very good, and he projects to be a better scorer.

[emanueldavidginobili]

11 steals and 7 blocks in the last 5 games for White.

[Mugen]

:lol I love White but Jason Kidd is a hall of famer. He's also already 24. I'd be thrilled if he became an above average starter in the league and it looks like he's definitely trending that way, pretty damn good for another late round pick.

[ceperez]

11 steals and 7 blocks in the last 5 games for White.

He's got deceptive quickness (or is it reaction time?). He's getting an unusual number of blocks and steals considering that he's not really that long.

Kahwi may have a lot of length, but White has unusual quickness.

[lebomb]

Even ahead of Murray??

Derek White is your controlled point guard. He makes really good decisions even though he may not be as athletic as Murray. I believe he is a more traditional running the offense point guard in comparison to Murray. Murray is athletic and more explosive, but he tends to make more errors in a game.
In comparison to White.

[TimmyBuckets]

hope he can work well with murray

[BD24]

hope he can work well with murray
If his shot continues to improve he and Murray should be an excellent pairing.

[RC_Drunkford]

I saw enough last year against GSW in the reg season where he was making great defensive plays to rattle steph/klay. I knew it wasn’t a fluke. Then and there I knew he had “it” I’ve been watching the NBA long enough to know when a player is special.

same here, I think he had like 16 points in that game, played within himself, hit open 3s. Super solid performance. Should've gotten NBA minutes last year that would have made him even better than playing in the G-League

[objective]

same here, I think he had like 16 points in that game, played within himself, hit open 3s. Super solid performance. Should've gotten NBA minutes last year that would have made him even better than playing in the G-League

Exactly, he looked good last year when he played. His game against Houston was good also. He passed the eye test, his stats were great in the small sample. I don't see how anyone who actually watched the games and paid attention could claim he didn't look good with the big squad last year.

By the end of the g-league season he was so bored or dominant that he was doing things that aren't really applicable to the big squad. He could call his own number whenever, so his 3 attempts skyrocketed. He even had a game of 15 3-pt attempts. Only one Spur in history, Jaren Jackson once in 99-00, has ever taken 15 or more 3-pt attempts. I don't think games like that were necessarily better for him than playing on the big squad and adjusting to what it's like when so many other players demand and handle the ball or keep the rebound and handle, etc.

[Keepin' it real]

Based on all this positive buzz, it seems like now would be an ideal time to include White as a sweetener in a trade for a solid, experienced 3rd star to complement LMA and DDR.

White's value is at an all-time high.

[Mr. Body]

Based on all this positive buzz, it seems like now would be an ideal time to include White as a sweetener in a trade for a solid, experienced 3rd star to complement LMA and DDR.

White's value is at an all-time high.

Lol What the fuck

[FkLA]

Based on all this positive buzz, it seems like now would be an ideal time to include White as a sweetener in a trade for a solid, experienced 3rd star to complement LMA and DDR.

White's value is at an all-time high.

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[tim_duncan_fan]

tRaDe WhItE fOr LeBrOn¡

[daslicer]

:lol I love White but Jason Kidd is a hall of famer. He's also already 24. I'd be thrilled if he became an above average starter in the league and it looks like he's definitely trending that way, pretty damn good for another late round pick.

To me he reminds me of Chauncey Billups the way he plays and his ability to run the offense. Granted physically he's not as big as Chauncey but the way he plays seems very similar. I'm also not saying he'll be as good as Chauncey.

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tRaDe WhItE fOr LeBrOn¡

Dont forget we need to dump LMA for Giannis or AD.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I don't remember how he was defensively, but otherwise, I think a fair comparison is Andre Miller.

[spurraider21]

i'm not all that excited over his 22 point game since it came on a night where he got 9 shots. he was hot for a game, but it's not like something clicked and he understood how to score. i'll believe that when he strings together some high scoring games when he's generating 15+ FGA.

anyone can get hot for a night and just hit a low volume of shots. if he's going to continue to hover around 8 FGA and you're realistically looking at a guy who's going to score 10 or so ppg. he's basically at danny green volume... and yeah there were times he got hot and scored 20.

that said, yeah, white has shown at lower levels that he has the tools to be a more assertive scorer. im just sayin his 22 point game wasn't really an example of that... but if he can sustain his level of defensive play, it doesn't matter. that's good enough to start. as his offense, namely his outside shooting ability/confidence improves, watch out

[DPG21920]

i'm not all that excited over his 22 point game since it came on a night where he got 9 shots. he was hot for a game, but it's not like something clicked and he understood how to score. i'll believe that when he strings together some high scoring games when he's generating 15+ FGA.

anyone can get hot for a night and just hit a low volume of shots. if he's going to continue to hover around 8 FGA and you're realistically looking at a guy who's going to score 10 or so ppg. he's basically at danny green volume... and yeah there were times he got hot and scored 20.

that said, yeah, white has shown at lower levels that he has the tools to be a more assertive scorer. im just sayin his 22 point game wasn't really an example of that... but if he can sustain his level of defensive play, it doesn't matter. that's good enough to start. as his offense, namely his outside shooting ability/confidence improves, watch out

That’s an impossible standard. Lma + DeRozan + Rudy. Not that type of volume nor his role.

[Pavlov]

I couldn't expect White to score that much as an average. Mid teens seems like where he'll be most of his career.

[spurraider21]

That’s an impossible standard. Lma + DeRozan + Rudy. Not that type of volume nor his role.
i know. i dont think the role is there for him to just step up and take, and its not fair to expect him to be an 18ppg scorer right now (provided gay is playing)

but if his FGA's lately are 9-6-6-6-7-9-6-9 and in one game he just happens to hit 8 of 9 en route to scoring 20+ points, im not seeing that as a turning point or a breakout

[DPG21920]

i know. i dont think the role is there for him to just step up and take, and its not fair to expect him to be an 18ppg scorer right now (provided gay is playing)

but if his FGA's lately are 9-6-6-6-7-9-6-9 and in one game he just happens to hit 8 of 9 en route to scoring 20+ points, im not seeing that as a turning point or a breakout

It’s more about impact and assertiveness along with how he’s scoring. It his 3 ball above nba average? Is he showing the ability to get to the rim? Is he not hesitating and making good decisions. Those are the things that should be viewed and if he’s doing that it’s safe to say he can score whether it’s 8 attempts or 15 IMO.

His role on offense is mostly creation, but just him being a legit threat and not hesitating is where his offensive value will be since it opens things up for everyone.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

i know. i dont think the role is there for him to just step up and take, and its not fair to expect him to be an 18ppg scorer right now (provided gay is playing)

but if his FGA's lately are 9-6-6-6-7-9-6-9 and in one game he just happens to hit 8 of 9 en route to scoring 20+ points, im not seeing that as a turning point or a breakout
The defense on Kyrie was a breakout performance. It shows that he can guard different All-Star level players on a consistent basis. But you are right, nobody is expecting him to average 18 points a game. However, him being less gun shy and attacking the basket and finding open players are all things that he can do. He is finding his comfort level on offense now and the Boston game point wise may not be repeatable consistently, but his newfound confidence and attacking attitude is what they Spurs really need. And this game adds to this newfound mentality

[DPG21920]

To me, if his 3PT shot is legit (which I think it is) his ceiling is a better defensive version of Eric Gordon.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I’m not sure he will ever be as good as him but he reminds me a lot of CJ McCollum.

[picnroll]

White reminds me most of Sam Cassell.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I’m not sure he will ever be as good as him but he reminds me a lot of CJ McCollum.

lol comparing him to a guy who sometimes have 6pts or below nights when his a starter?...mccollum the player and the announcer = both pos same smell...

[DAF86]

Right now, White reminds me of a poor man Jrue Holiday.

[emanueldavidginobili]

lol comparing him to a guy who sometimes have 6pts or below nights when his a starter?...mccollum the player and the announcer = both pos same smell...
I have no idea what you’re trying to say my bad :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

This man played really well against the Raptors and really took control of his opportunities and his role despite Aldridge and Derozan looking for blood this game. Development and find of Derrick White truly cements RC Buford and Pop as MASTER talent evaluators. Just incredible how good this guy is already. Testament to him being such a hardworker D2 to NBA.

[look_at_g_shred]

This man played really well against the Raptors and really took control of his opportunities and his role despite Aldridge and Derozan looking for blood this game. Development and find of Derrick White truly cements RC Buford and Pop as MASTER talent evaluators. Just incredible how good this guy is already. Testament to him being such a hardworker D2 to NBA.
Exactly! It’s another reminder that we shouldn’t rush to judge players drafted by the spurs in their first season. Makes me really excited and confident they will find another talent this summer and what’s even better is they get 2 shots in the first round!

[Spurs fever]

The future looks nice. Hope he doesn't bounce.

[FkLA]

PopaGOAT and RC did it again. What a fucking steal. I know hes like 29 already but still this guy is special. :cry


This is just the beginning. His coming out party. White is very good, tbh.

[timtonymanu]

People wanted Jordan Bell over this guy at the time.

[FkLA]

I have no idea what you’re trying to say my bad :lol

He's saying McCollum is an overrated, one dimensional hack and he's right. Don't insult White like that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs better lock him in on a good deal, and not some bullshit low ball offer where he take his talents elsewhere

[Mikeanaro]

Looking good.

[Mr. Body]

He's looking like a seven year veteran these last few games.

[Manufan909]

I love that White was the stopper. Fucking fantastic.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if he continues to play like this, could care less a bout his hairstyle

[SAGirl]

I am a fan.He was pretty spectacular tonight.

[NickiRasgo]

People wanted Jordan Bell over this guy at the time.

I am because of our need of a mobile big during the off-season. I thought as well that Jordan Bell would be good, looking at the Warriors right I thought he would have a better production considering that Javale and Zaza leaves then Draymond and Damion were got injured but it seems he's sucking right now - just look at his stats but not sure with the advanced stats though but he dropped his minutes this season compared to last year.

[Snaq O'Meal]

White reminds me most of Sam Cassell.

They both may look like aliens, but I don't think they're of the same species or from the same planet.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcYGF3QI3L0

[Chinook]

People wanted Jordan Bell over this guy at the time.

Indeed. I really wanted a big in that draft, so Bell and Bolden still being on the board stung. But I started to change my tune when RC said in the post-draft interview that they thought White had untapped athletic potential. That's really what sets Derrick apart from those steady low-ceiling guards that hover between the d-league and NBA like Archidiacono. You take an intangibles/skills guy and tell me he has above-average athleticism, and you've got me intrigued.

[Hillary Clinton]

The guy had a good game and showed some game.

[MaNu4Tres]

Indeed. I really wanted a big in that draft, so Bell and Bolden still being on the board stung. But I started to change my tune when RC said in the post-draft interview that they thought White had untapped athletic potential. That's really what sets Derrick apart from those steady low-ceiling guards that hover between the d-league and NBA like Archidiacono. You take an intangibles/skills guy and tell me he has above-average athleticism, and you've got me intrigued.

Me as well. But once I started watching White more that summer, the more and more I liked him.

White has busted his tail the past two summers. 7 hours a day 6x a week w 3 hours dedicated to shooting. Kid is a well rounded stud.

[BillMc]

if he continues to play like this, could care less a bout his hairstyle

Let us hope you're repeating those words about Lonnie soon too!:bobo

[koriwhat]

huge fan of DW! dude's defense is what excites me. i love hard-nose defenders and white is starting to come out as one of the best in the league atm. very impressed! it was that LA overtime game that really got me watching DW religiously though.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcYGF3QI3L0

How many of his plays embarrassed #2 of the Raptors?

[Mr. Body]

Indeed. I really wanted a big in that draft, so Bell and Bolden still being on the board stung. But I started to change my tune when RC said in the post-draft interview that they thought White had untapped athletic potential. That's really what sets Derrick apart from those steady low-ceiling guards that hover between the d-league and NBA like Archidiacono. You take an intangibles/skills guy and tell me he has above-average athleticism, and you've got me intrigued.

He's unexpectedly swift. He has good vertical athleticism, but what surprises is how quick he is moving with the ball. Not Parker quick, but swift and darting.

[SAGirl]

He's skilled finishing contested layups at the basket, too. One of Murray's most frustrating aspects was precisely his one handed floaters that had no chances of going in and how he missed layups he should have made.
That on top of him not shooting well and passing up shots made him frustrating to watch offensively. White doesn't have that same problem finishing plays at the basket and has a better looking shot.

I hoped Murray was going to be much better offensively this year and he will have to catch up next season, but the point is that White is already ahead in that department.

[BD24]

huge fan of DW! dude's defense is what excites me. i love hard-nose defenders and white is starting to come out as one of the best in the league atm. very impressed! it was that LA overtime game that really got me watching DW religiously though.
I wonder what kind of phone DW uses tbh

[spurraider21]

he went from defending kyrie one game to kawhi in the next

that's a lot of trust from pop

he gave kawhi a lot of fits by never biting on his pump fakes, and instead crowded him. reminded me of the old Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) and ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) debates about LDN

[Chinook]

he went from defending kyrie one game to kawhi in the next

that's a lot of trust from pop

he gave kawhi a lot of fits by never biting on his pump fakes, and instead crowded him. reminded me of the old Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) and ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) debates about LDN

Sort of. Biting on pump-fakes in a one-on-one case isn't advisable in any case I know. That's completely different from a close-out scenario. People refer to those resets as fakes, but they aren't, in my opinion. A fake is when you never intend to shoot it but make the motion to force a reaction. On those close-outs, the guy intends to shoot and then changes his mind when the defender jumps at him. There's a lot less control and rhythm in the latter scenario, which is why it's more effective.

Interestingly enough, we did talk about ways of countering that type of close-out by embracing the reset and lining up a better shot. Back in the day, teams weren't well-equipped to do that. They seem to be much more able to maintain their concentration nowadays. I think that's the league evolving to counter that type of close-out. I haven't compiled the number for that issue in years, but it's possible that the math has changed as this three-point revolution has progressed.

[Mugen]

Derrick looks like the 2nd panel of an evolution chart but he's easily my favorite player on the roster this season tbh.

[Spurs da champs]

Derrick looks like the 2nd panel of an evolution chart but he's easily my favorite player on the roster this season tbh.
:lmao

[NASpurs]

This Derrick White fellow might be good

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[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

I interested to see if Pop is 100% committed to DWhite in the SL, including teams like Lakers, Warriors, etc. I hope we have seen the end of Dante in the starting lineup

[TDMVPDPOY]

give credit where credit is due, why mention any other spurs player not playing just to remain relevant?

[Rosewood]

Derrick looks like the 2nd panel of an evolution chart but he's easily my favorite player on the roster this season tbh.

:rollin

Derrick seems like a perfect Spur player. He's really stepped up. Hope he can keep it up.

[Ice009]

Me as well. But once I started watching White more that summer, the more and more I liked him.

White has busted his tail the past two summers. 7 hours a day 6x a week w 3 hours dedicated to shooting. Kid is a well rounded stud.

Where did you get those workout numbers from?

[HarlemHeat37]

Derrick looks like the 2nd panel of an evolution chart but he's easily my favorite player on the roster this season tbh.

:lol the Raptors game was one of the few times I've watched him this year, I didn't realize how ugly this mans is..he makes Kyle Anderson look like Kelly Oubre..

[MaNu4Tres]

Where did you get those workout numbers from?

His Dad.

[Ice009]

His dad.

Cool. Great to hear that he's been working that hard. Is there an article or something about him where this is mentioned?

[MaNu4Tres]

Cool. Great to hear that he's been working that hard. Is there an article or something about him where this is mentioned?

Not that I recall, no.

[timtonymanu]

Bump. Quickly becoming a fan of this guy.

[ace3g]

GAME LOG


DATE
OPP
SCORE
MIN
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
REB
AST
BLK
STL
PF
TO
PTS


Sat 1/5


vs

MEM (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies)


W 108-88 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071257)
27
8-9
.889
1-1
1.000
2-2
1.000
4
0
1
1
3
2
19


Thu 1/3


vs

TOR (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors)


W 125-107 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071239)
33
8-11
.727
2-3
.667
1-2
.500
0
4
0
1
2
0
19


Mon 12/31


vs

BOS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bos/boston-celtics)


W 120-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071221)
29
8-9
.889
2-2
1.000
4-5
.800
3
3
2
1
2
1
22


Sat 12/29


@

LAC (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers)


W 122-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071211)
29
4-6
.667
1-1
1.000
3-3
1.000
7
4
0
2
2
0
12


Fri 12/28


@

DEN (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/den/denver-nuggets)


L 99-102 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071200)
28
4-9
.444
1-4
.250
1-2
.500
6
3
0
6
3
1
10


Last 5 Games
29.2
6.4-8.8
.727
1.4-2.2
.636
2.2-2.8
.786
4.0
2.8
0.6
2.2
2.4
0.8
16.4

[8FOR!3]

He's been awesome lately. Shouldn't use that to hate on Murray though, he's younger and is a different type of prospect. Both can contribute to the team.

[marinoman]

I think he’d look decent if he shaved his head

[sasaint]

His Dad.

Just as long as it isn't his uncle.

[Dingle Barry]

0 assists tonight wtf Derrick?

[TimmyBuckets]

He's been awesome lately. Shouldn't use that to hate on Murray though, he's younger and is a different type of prospect. Both can contribute to the team.

[ceperez]

GAME LOG


DATE
OPP
SCORE
MIN
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
REB
AST
BLK
STL
PF
TO
PTS


Sat 1/5


vs

MEM (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies)


W 108-88 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071257)
27
8-9
.889
1-1
1.000
2-2
1.000
4
0
1
1
3
2
19


Thu 1/3


vs

TOR (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors)


W 125-107 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071239)
33
8-11
.727
2-3
.667
1-2
.500
0
4
0
1
2
0
19


Mon 12/31


vs

BOS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bos/boston-celtics)


W 120-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071221)
29
8-9
.889
2-2
1.000
4-5
.800
3
3
2
1
2
1
22


Sat 12/29


@

LAC (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers)


W 122-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071211)
29
4-6
.667
1-1
1.000
3-3
1.000
7
4
0
2
2
0
12


Fri 12/28


@

DEN (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/den/denver-nuggets)


L 99-102 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071200)
28
4-9
.444
1-4
.250
1-2
.500
6
3
0
6
3
1
10


Last 5 Games
29.2
6.4-8.8
.727
1.4-2.2
.636
2.2-2.8
.786
4.0
2.8
0.6
2.2
2.4
0.8
16.4



Last 3 games, he is virtually not missing shots!

I don't think that even Rudy Gay this year has been as efficient as White. Spurs aren't losing if White keeps this up and Gay gets back to his past efficient form.

[ceperez]

0 assists tonight wtf Derrick?

If you are shooting 90% then why should you pass?? You play based on what the defense is giving you. If the assist opportunities were not there (maybe because Grizzlies were hedging by expect passes from White) then no reason to force it.

White is looking more and more like a member of the big 3 .... Aldridge, DeRozan and White. Mindbogging for a 2nd year rookie (that probably gets to to play in the Allstar rookies-sophomore game).

[r0drig0lac]

If you are shooting 90% then why should you pass?? You play based on what the defense is giving you. If the assist opportunities were not there (maybe because Grizzlies were hedging by expect passes from White) then no reason to force it.

White is looking more and more like a member of the big 3 .... Aldridge, DeRozan and White. Mindbogging for a 2nd year rookie (that probably gets to to play in the Allstar rookies-sophomore game).

yes, it's like people who want Kawhi to have 4 5 assists, as if it were some kind of proof that the guy is a good passer, Derrick White read the game perfectly and was a scorer because that's what defense gave, great players have the ability to adapt to the game

[ceperez]

yes, it's like people who want Kawhi to have 4 5 assists, as if it were some kind of proof that the guy is a good passer, Derrick White read the game perfectly and was a scorer because that's what defense gave, great players have the ability to adapt to the game

White is the best player in the Spurs roster in reading the defense. The Grizzlies are a pretty good defensive team (#6 this season), likely the passing lanes were not there when White had the ball.

White is not like DeRozan that has the athleticism to force a play. DeRozan can just jump in traffic and his athleticism finds a way to pass the ball to someone. Contrast to Gay that has trouble passing in traffic. Anyway Spurs only weakness this year is a lack of good individual defender. Offense is definitely clicking though.

[r0drig0lac]

people were limiting White's potential ceiling because of age, but I do not really believe that age outweighs the experience against NBA level players, he's polishing his game every day, and really he could turn out to be a star in any moment

[objective]

I think his 3 pt % for the year is up to 35% now? I don't know if he'll ever be 40% in the NBA because of that lean, but if he hits 35% the rest of the year that's not bad.

[TDMVPDPOY]

He's been awesome lately. Shouldn't use that to hate on Murray though, he's younger and is a different type of prospect. Both can contribute to the team.

one guy can shoot, the other guy cant...so who u want? give me white, end of the day ball in basket wins games...

[ceperez]

people were limiting White's potential ceiling because of age, but I do not really believe that age outweighs the experience against NBA level players, he's polishing his game every day, and really he could turn out to be a star in any moment

Yeah, the age thing is a wrong measure. White grew a couple of inches in college and played division 2 for 3 years. So he was still growing up while he was 18-20 years old. Now look at Walker, the guy is a man at 18 years of age.

Players who mature early have the other problem of deteriorating early. Look at McGrady, his best years were at 23-24, after being in the league for 6-7 years. He was done by age 28.

Age is a good measure for the athletic freaks like LeBron, but shouldn't be the measure for all players. A better measure is year over year progress. White and Forbes have made big strides becoming better every year. But compare that with other Spurs drafts like Hill and Cojo, both plateaued very early.

[szkorhetz]

Pairing Westbrook lite with Manu lite is not bad. Not bad at all.

[Dejounte]

Dejounte vs Derrick is the new age TP vs Manu. We are soon going to have Murraytards and Whitetards

[picnroll]

Dejounte vs Derrick is the new age TP vs Manu. We are soon going to have Murraytards and Whitetards
A number of people have already queued up.

[jermaine]

White seems to be more efficient than Murray.

[ceperez]

Dejounte vs Derrick is the new age TP vs Manu. We are soon going to have Murraytards and Whitetards

What about Walker IV? Spurs own Donovan Mitchell shouldn't be out of the conversation!

[picnroll]

Now that White is 1 1/2 years into his pro career and has gotten solid minutes recently I thought it’d be interesting to go back and look at his nbadraft.net evaluation. Unfortunately Draft Express is no longer around. Actually though I think nbadraft did a good job breaking down White’s game.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/derrick-white

... and not to boast or anything but ...

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269124

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269303

[MaNu4Tres]

I think his 3 pt % for the year is up to 35% now? I don't know if he'll ever be 40% in the NBA because of that lean, but if he hits 35% the rest of the year that's not bad.

He will be a plus 40% shooter from 3. Kid works too hard.

The past two years he shot 40% ( Colorado) and 35% ( Austin & SA combined) from 3.

[exstatic]

Now that White is 1 1/2 years into his pro career and has gotten solid minutes recently I thought it’d be interesting to go back and look at his nbadraft.net evaluation. Unfortunately Draft Express is no longer around. Actually though I think nbadraft did a good job breaking down White’s game.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/derrick-white

Spoiler alert: the DX profiles are still out there.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-White-95407/

[ceperez]

He will be a plus 40% shooter from 3. Kid works too hard.

The past two years he shot 40% ( Colorado) and 35% ( Austin & SA combined) from 3.

White is one of the few Spurs that can shoot the 3 reliably from off the dribble. He's got James Harden potential in this area.

Right now, he's the second best player in the Spurs. DeRozan is #1 and Aldridge is #3.

[exstatic]

people were limiting White's potential ceiling because of age, but I do not really believe that age outweighs the experience against NBA level players, he's polishing his game every day, and really he could turn out to be a star in any moment

Using age to determine development curve is usually pretty accurate. His playing D II ball for 3years kinda threw that off. Normally, if someone is still in college that long, they aren’t showing high level NBA chops, because they’ve been in a constant situation, usually one school at the D I level.

[ceperez]

Using age to determine development curve is usually pretty accurate. His playing D II ball for 3years kinda threw that off. Normally, if someone is still in college that long, they aren’t showing high level NBA chops, because they’ve been in a constant situation, usually one school at the D I level.

But if you want to grab talent that nobody is looking at, you have to ignore the standard metrics. If everyone is looking at the same metrics, then there's no chance at getting a steal. Spurs have consistently had to draft really high in the draft and need every edge they can get. Looks like the White selection paid of despite actually having a guard like Murray already locked up. The other head scratcher is Walker IV, since you already had Murray and White locked up.

Pop said it all in last interview. He never expected White to be this good this soon.

I suspect, he also doesn't expect Walker IV to be of any value this year.

[picnroll]

White had a late growth spurt. Bones lengthen before muscle mass is added so basically he was playing with a less mature body than his peers until later, delaying relative development. He was using a 16-18 year old level body with peers playing with a physical 18-20 year old body level affecting skill development as well. Now he’s caught up.

[J_Paco]

Dejounte vs Derrick is the new age TP vs Manu. We are soon going to have Murraytards and Whitetards

Yup, and Walker hasn't even emerged yet. I see it as a good problem having three young, athletic, potentially high - level guards.

Of course, the issue will be who to retain and extend beyond their rookie scale contract but you cross that bridge later. For now, you develop, nurture and build them up (confidence) to hopefully be the (quality) successors to Ginobili and Parker....

[R. DeMurre]

At this point White looks like a better prospect than Markelle Fultz, Lonzo Ball, or Josh Jackson.

Another draft steal for PATFO.

[J_Paco]

At this point White looks like a better prospect than Markelle Fultz, Lonzo Ball, or Josh Jackson.

Another draft steal for PATFO.

True, but his "ceiling" is still lower because of the age disparity since those three are barely old enough to drink and I believe White is heading toward his 25th year. Pretty big age gap and White would have to progress much sooner (to all - star level) to make up the difference.

That was my only issue with sitting him last year and having him play primarily in the G League. His window to be a NBA contributor or athlete is shortened because of his "advanced" age coming out of college. That also explains why so few upperclassmen are drafted in the lottery or 1st round.

[SpursDynasty85]

True, but his "ceiling" is still lower because of the age disparity since those three are barely old enough to drink and I believe White is heading toward his 25th year. Pretty big age gap and White would have to progress much sooner (to all - star level) to make up the difference.

That was my only issue with sitting him last year and having him play primarily in the G League. His window to be a NBA contributor or athlete is shortened because of his "advanced" age coming out of college. That also explains why so few upperclassmen are drafted in the lottery or 1st round.

A year in the G league under the Spurs system is very beneficial. Specially for a Spurs pg. Spurs dont draft lottery picks where they are thrust into a season of rebuilding. Playoff teams normally aren't playing their rookies.

[jermaine]

On 2k19, Pondexter, Cunningham, an Walker is rated higher than White... How is this!?! Apparently 2k doesn't watch basketball.

[Supreme_Being]

I'm officially on the White bandwagon

[ceperez]

A year in the G league under the Spurs system is very beneficial. Specially for a Spurs pg. Spurs dont draft lottery picks where they are thrust into a season of rebuilding. Playoff teams normally aren't playing their rookies.

Takes time to develop the right habits for the NBA game. White need to learn that NBA players are more athletic and faster and he needed to adjust his game to this fact. The moves that worked in college aren't the moves that translate into the NBA.

There's the added need also to become stronger. Forbes did that in the off season and I suspect White did the same (it doesn't show, but he may have been considerably weaker coming out of college).

Now White is finally figuring it out! Which is great and he couldn't have done this without first being in the G-league.

[DPG21920]

He’s a better defensive version of Eric Gordon.

[BD24]

He’s a better defensive version of Eric Gordon.
Don't think he is as good of a scorer as Gordon quite yet, but not a terrible comparison. Think he is a little taller than Gordan as well no?

[ceperez]

Don't think he is as good of a scorer as Gordon quite yet, but not a terrible comparison. Think he is a little taller than Gordan as well no?

Does Gordon play PG? I thought he was more like a bigger Forbes like player.

[8FOR!3]

On 2k19, Pondexter, Cunningham, an Walker is rated higher than White... How is this!?! Apparently 2k doesn't watch basketball.

I mean they definitely aren't very good at ratings, but I'm assuming the next time there's an update they'll move White to like a 74 or so. I think he's more of like a 77-78 right now but usually it takes an extra update or two to get it right.

[SpursDynasty85]

I like my original assessment he is more like a Jeremy Lin. I thought he would be a poor man's version but it looks like we have basically a Jeremy Lin. Hope he stays healthy.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I mean they definitely aren't very good at ratings, but I'm assuming the next time there's an update they'll move White to like a 74 or so. I think he's more of like a 77-78 right now but usually it takes an extra update or two to get it right.
2k actually updated the rosters and respected Bertans and Poeltl. Poeltl is a 78 and Bertans is 77 but Whites still a 70 I think. Not sure when the last update was though.

[jermaine]

The Spurs on 2k19 is great to use. Let White push the pace or DDR shoot midrange shots in the half court.

[DAF86]

I like my original assessment he is more like a Jeremy Lin. I thought he would be a poor man's version but it looks like we have basically a Jeremy Lin. Hope he stays healthy.

Jeremy Lin is one of the worst defensive players ever. :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Jeremy Lin is one of the worst defensive players ever. :lol

Wouldn't call him the worst by any stretch. His injuries have taken a toll. Similar playing styles while White is definitely the better defender. Lin to me has the slight edge on offensive because he is still bigger and stronger than White.

[exstatic]

Wouldn't call him the worst by any stretch. His injuries have taken a toll. Similar playing styles while White is definitely the better defender. Lin to me has the slight edge on offensive because he is still bigger and stronger than White.

Jeremy is 6’3” 200, so shorter and lighter.

[BatManu20]

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[Mr. Body]

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Fully and obviously expect him to cool off, but his stroke looks so good from midrange. And he's showing a knack to get wide open on those shots. He's also super fluid moving forward to the basket. Deceptively lengthy and swift in his stride.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Jeremy is 6’3” 200, so shorter and lighter.

fkn scrub who pad his stats in empty minutes...made a career out for himself doing that shit...thanks to clowns like enrique who plays no defense and to busy trading h2h baskets

[ceperez]

Fully and obviously expect him to cool off, but his stroke looks so good from midrange. And he's showing a knack to get wide open on those shots. He's also super fluid moving forward to the basket. Deceptively lengthy and swift in his stride.

We shall see when teams start scouting and preparing to stop White. Against the Grizzlies, they shutdown his passing lanes, but he still hit 8-9.

[SpursDynasty85]

fkn scrub who pad his stats in empty minutes...made a career out for himself doing that shit...thanks to clowns like enrique who plays no defense and to busy trading h2h baskets


Jeremy is 6’3” 200, so shorter and lighter.

Height wise they look pretty much the same. Combine #s actually listed Jeremy at 6'4". He is listed 10 lbs heavier than Derrick which is a good bit of difference at the same height. Anyway I guess I mentioned it because I like Lins driving ability and the way he takes contact and gets to the foul line a bit better. Derricks defense is definitely better. Lin's pick and roll game is still a level ahead imo. Ultimately both are great players. Derrick White will likely not sniff an all star game but outcompete all stars on many nights just like Lin has throughout his career. White being the starting gaurd for Spurs is a huge advantage compared to anything Lin was able to get plus he has been unfortunately injury prone throughout his career.

[Dingle Barry]

He’s a better defensive version of Eric Gordon.

Gordon is just a chucker. White is much more skilled.

[BD24]

I like my original assessment he is more like a Jeremy Lin. I thought he would be a poor man's version but it looks like we have basically a Jeremy Lin. Hope he stays healthy.
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[SpursDynasty85]

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[SpursDynasty85]

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You always introduce yourself this way?

[K...]

I think white aNd dero will really help Murray. He can focus on shooting, hard drives, and rebounds, and eschew ball handling and play running. Dero is the pg of the team, so there's no reason to have Murray play pg. Lonnie will probably play bench minutes until dero leaves or declines

[emanueldavidginobili]

Dare I say the ceiling is Chauncey Billups

[NameLess Scrub]

I'm glad he's playing much better than I expected. Hope it's sustainable.

[phxspurfan]

Wow dabom/mirrornick/whatever alts really has some terrible takes in this thread lol

[8FOR!3]

2k actually updated the rosters and respected Bertans and Poeltl. Poeltl is a 78 and Bertans is 77 but Whites still a 70 I think. Not sure when the last update was though.

Yeah they did but I think that was before White's sorta breakout 22 point game. So his defense was good and he was just starting to play better but I think the ratings guys look at the box scores than anything. Like after they update him I'm sure his fit in the defensive system will still be terrible which is pretty ridiculous lol. Just like Bertans' defensive rating and fit in 2K is terrible. Poeltl's isn't great either.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1082112747767300097

[cutewizard]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1082112747767300097

:bobo

[cutewizard]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1082112747767300097

:whine

[313]

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Even if someone says White is feasting on teams not scouting him, gotta give credit where credit is due.

[313]

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White and DJ, wingstop 2.0.

[sasaint]

1082113260558733318

Even if someone says White is feasting on teams not scouting him, gotta give credit where credit is due.

Seems like an odd factoid, but even so, White is the only guard in the bunch.

[ceperez]

Wow, the pressure is now on for DW to keep his streak! I will be in complete shock if he still hits 70% and 19+ in the next game.

[exstatic]

Seems like an odd factoid, but even so, White is the only guard in the bunch.

There aren’t even any wings on that list. In fact, the only player who wasn’t a true center was Manning.

[sasaint]

Wow, the pressure is now on for DW to keep his streak! I will be in complete shock if he still hits 70% and 19+ in the next game.

No pressure. I have been a huge DWhite fan from the get-go, but those numbers are so ethereal that nobody could expect them to continue. I do hope he performs at a high level, though, especially going on the road after such a streak. And I expect he will do that. :toast

[sasaint]

There aren’t even any wings on that list. In fact, the only player who wasn’t a true center was Manning.

Exactly. I don't know how many odd 3-game factoids you could dig up, but the fact that they are all bigs except White makes it very interesting.

[Mr. Body]

I'm not sure what scouting is going to do. If teams are game planning for the Spurs' fourth option, imagine how this opens things up for the top three.

[313]

Seems like an odd factoid, but even so, White is the only guard in the bunch.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pstreak.cgi?request=1&year_min=1986&year_max=2019&is_playoffs=N&season_start=1&season_end=-1&c1stat=fg_pct&c1comp=ge&c1val=65&c2stat=pts&c2comp=ge&c2val=15

FG% >= 65
PTS >= 15

DW is on 3 right now. Looks like 4 is good company but has been done many times. If he gets to 5 that'll be some noteworthy company.

sn: Siakam with a 4 game streak of his own in November :wow

Would have been a robbery if we got him in the Kawhi trade, people should stop being upset we didn't get him :lol

[hater]

I said he sucks so I will be sticking to mu opinion for now

Wish I am wrong thou. But hardly ever I am

Secretly rooting for this scrub

[r0drig0lac]

I'm not sure what scouting is going to do. If teams are game planning for the Spurs' fourth option, imagine how this opens things up for the top three.

I agree, this situation could get even better

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1082112747767300097
surprised this was never done by robinson/duncan or some other big that just scored in the paint

[SpursDynasty85]

surprised this was never done by robinson/duncan or some other big that just scored in the paint

This dude is about to get the full attention of NBA teams very soon now. Hopefully LMA and DDR are ready to pounce. I think White will be okay as he is a savvy gaurd with smart bball IQ. He will adjust fine.

[TDMVPDPOY]

white plays a bit like a young ginoboli without the turnovers... hopefully he takes more risks and chase after his own points, then playing the safety card...

[J_Paco]

On 2k19, Pondexter, Cunningham, an Walker is rated higher than White... How is this!?! Apparently 2k doesn't watch basketball.

The guy who does the official roster sucks, homie.....

[Chinook]

Blake hasn't gotten the memo that White's not someone you want to go one-on-one with on the perimeter.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Blake hasn't gotten the memo that White's not someone you want to go one-on-one with on the perimeter.

Reminds me a little of Ginobili when players thought they could post him up. He'd claw and fight back and was surprisingly hard to beat.

[spurraider21]

Reminds me a little of Ginobili when players thought they could post him up. He'd claw and fight back and was surprisingly hard to beat.
timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

[GB20]

timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

:lol

[jehawk81]

timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

Lol that's pretty dang funny

[jehawk81]

timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

Lol that's pretty dang funny

[spurraider21]

just looked back for it. random post from 6 years ago... dno why that one stuck in my memory :lol


Has anyone ever beaten Manu by posting him up repeatedly? I don't recall that ever happening.

Posting up Manu is like trying to put a cat in a bath. He'll put up a fight like his life depended on it. Even if a player is successful at posting him up once or twice, they usually give up because it's not worth the aggravation.

[boutons_deux]

Griffin looks so depressed, fatigued

[boutons_deux]

drum with only 4 ORs

[kjhip1]

White with another game of good defense and another 17 points.

[Mr. Body]

Dude is so good. Incredibly efficient lately.

[Mr. Body]

White with another game of good defense and another 17 points.

On seven shots.

[kjhip1]

His game is getting better and better. Spurs are on a hell of a run right now.

[RC_Drunkford]

White has such a complete game, makes you think what's there that he could actually improve on? The only thing I'd come up with is handles and one-on-one moves like a step back.

[RD2191]

timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

:lol that's a good one

[John B]

I've said before he's a Jason Kidd, big guard, great vision, high basketball IQ, defensive catalyst, but without the fancy passes (well not yet). He's so poised and doesn't get rattled.

[8FOR!3]

Rough shooting night for White :lol

[Namundy]

He has one of the most comprehensive skill sets I have seen. Love this guy.

[spurraider21]

:lol that's a good one
thanks tbh im taking full credit

[BillMc]

Rough shooting night for White :lol
:lol

[DAF86]

White has such a complete game, makes you think what's there that he could actually improve on? The only thing I'd come up with is handles and one-on-one moves like a step back.

White displayed quite a good step back Jumper on the G-League, tbh. Even from 3pt territory.

[hater]

Scrub

[ceperez]

What a disappointment, 4-7 57% . His only positive is 9-9 from the free throw line.

[John B]

White has such a complete game, makes you think what's there that he could actually improve on? The only thing I'd come up with is handles and one-on-one moves like a step back.
He's a big guard so I'd expect him to bullyball smaller guards down the line, create double-teams. Similar to what most guards do to Mills :lol

[313]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pstreak.cgi?request=1&year_min=1986&year_max=2019&is_playoffs=N&season_start=1&season_end=-1&c1stat=fg_pct&c1comp=ge&c1val=65&c2stat=pts&c2comp=ge&c2val=15

FG% >= 65
PTS >= 15

DW is on 3 right now. Looks like 4 is good company but has been done many times. If he gets to 5 that'll be some noteworthy company.

sn: Siakam with a 4 game streak of his own in November :wow

Would have been a robbery if we got him in the Kawhi trade, people should stop being upset we didn't get him :lol57%, streak over :/

[emanueldavidginobili]

White has such a complete game, makes you think what's there that he could actually improve on? The only thing I'd come up with is handles and one-on-one moves like a step back.
He might already have that, he’s had so much success blowing by his defender latlely he’s been having no need for that.

[ceperez]

He might already have that, he’s had so much success blowing by his defender latlely he’s been having no need for that.

Yep, he already has that step back. Just hasn't needed to show it, but he did this often enough in g-league.

[SpurPadre]

surprised this was never done by robinson/duncan or some other big that just scored in the paint

Or TP in his prime when he made a living in the paint.

[SpurPadre]

white plays a bit like a young ginoboli without the turnovers... hopefully he takes more risks and chase after his own points, then playing the safety card...

Let's not compare him to a HOF just yet, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

White has such a complete game, makes you think what's there that he could actually improve on? The only thing I'd come up with is handles and one-on-one moves like a step back.

I still have not figured out a good comparison for him I've seen a bit of billups, but now it looks a bit like Payton without the above average athletics (s the closest comparison I can find at that time)

[xellos88330]

I still have not figured out a good comparison for him I've seen a bit of billups, but now it looks a bit like Payton without the above average athletics (s the closest comparison I can find at that time)

Andre Miller?

[picnroll]

Still with Sam Cassell. Good balance, takes contact and scores well, not super athletic but patient, probing ball handler, dangerous at the basket, mid and long range, good court vision/passer, very solid defender. Eventually he should develop Cassell’s excellent post up game.

[Mr. Body]

Still with Sam Cassell. Good balance, takes contact and scores well, not super athletic but patient, probing ball handler, dangerous at the basket, mid and long range, good court vision/passer, very solid defender. Eventually he should develop Cassell’s excellent post up game.

Good call. Cassell also had a big early impact.

[cutewizard]

Second best pure point guard in Spurs history

[DaBears]

Worse news: he'll be behind Marco, Mills, Green, and Porker/Forbes in the rotation

I doubt Derrick White shares your opinion.

[HarlemHeat37]

I haven't watched him play much, what exactly is he doing that has made him so efficient? His current stretch is historic, so don't just say positive regression..

[R. DeMurre]

timvp once said that posting up on manu is like trying to give a cat a bath :lol

:lol

[DAF86]

I haven't watched him play much, what exactly is he doing that has made him so efficient? His current stretch is historic, so don't just say positive regression..

1st of all, he's elite at defense for a 6'4'' guy.

On offense, he is just playing with more confidence. He's actually looking for the hoop. He's no longer playing not to fuck up. He attacks the basket with a purpose and knows how to finish. Then, he's also just making jumpers at an above average level. He will probably cool off a bit on that regard.

He's just a well rounded player with a very high IQ. He will be good for years to come.

[Mugen]

I haven't watched him play much, what exactly is he doing that has made him so efficient? His current stretch is historic, so don't just say positive regression..

Pretty much doing the same shit he was doing during summer league minus the bright green light to shoot all the time. Definitely playing with a lot more confidence and using screens a lot better to actually attack and not just look to kick it back out to Derozan/LMA/Forbes. Basically, the game slowed down for him.

[ceperez]

Pretty much doing the same shit he was doing during summer league minus the bright green light to shoot all the time. Definitely playing with a lot more confidence and using screens a lot better to actually attack and not just look to kick it back out to Derozan/LMA/Forbes. Basically, the game slowed down for him.

There was also a big difference between his first year in summer league and last summer. Last summer he was just on fire, until he got injured.

Here is White in 2017:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzq9zwpquX8

He's just taking his time... he's going to explode one of these days.

[kobyz]

Play like jrue holiday

[MaNu4Tres]

DeRozan has been the main "PG" or facilitator in the offense. White has been an off ball, secondary playmaker.

White is so well rounded, he can fit with anyone -- including Dejounte.

Im expecting both to start next season with DeRozan at the 3.

[SpursDynasty85]

DeRozan has been the main "PG" or facilitator in the offense. White has been an off ball, secondary playmaker.

White is so well rounded, he can fit with anyone -- including Dejounte.

Im expecting both to start next season with DeRozan at the 3.

That would put Forbes, Mills, and Belli off the bench. Makes more sense to have White take Manus role and finish games.

[DAF86]

That would put Forbes, Mills, and Belli off the bench. Makes more sense to have White take Manus role and finish games.

That way the bench would almost mirror the SL in terms of construction:

Murray/White - defensive ace PG
Forbes/Mills - Undersized shooting guard
DeRozan/Belinelli - SG playing SF
Gay/Bertans - stretch 4
Aldridge/Poeltl - bigman

That's probably the way Pop will go about it. I would prefer a 3 and D SF to insert on the starting lineup and for Walker to become a contributor next season.

[MaNu4Tres]

That way the bench would almost mirror the SL in terms of construction:

Murray/White - defensive ace PG
Forbes/Mills - Undersized shooting guard
DeRozan/Belinelli - SG playing SF
Gay/Bertans - stretch 4
Aldridge/Poeltl - bigman

That's probably the way Pop will go about it. I would prefer a 3 and D SF to insert on the starting lineup and for Walker to become a contributor next season.

LMA - Gay - DeMar - White - Dejounte

Poeltl - Bertans - Lonnie - Forbes

With Belinellis time as a placeholder coming to an end. Im expecting him to be dealt since:
A) They are higher on Lonnie than any player theyve drafted in a long time. He will play.
B) Mills aint going anywhere.

Mills being demoted to the 3rd guard off the bench.

Stagger White & DeMar at all times after the initial 6-7 minutes of each half together.

[spurraider21]

that's assuming gay is brought back. i think if you're going to start murray and demar, then you need to start bertans. even though gay's outside shot has been a nice surprise this year, he doesn't provide the same spacing bertans does. and i dont think gay's shooting is sustainable.