Gun Control

[Nathan89]

There's not always a correlation between a proposal's origination and popular opinion. I think the results have more to do with its shittiness than its newness.

If shittiness was the factor then many of those others wouldn't be agreed on tbh.

It's really a combo of being new and what the media told them to feel about that. Change the narrative from CNN talking heads that completely changes these polls. Drastically.

[Nathan89]

977897459073642497


https://arizonadailyindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/01Semiauto.png

Ban semi-automatic weapons:lol
"They don't want to ban all guns":lol

Anyone want to talk about this living strawman that I just found?:lmao

[Spurminator]

If shittiness was the factor then many of those others wouldn't be agreed on tbh.

It's really a combo of being new and what the media told them to feel about that. Change the narrative from CNN talking heads that completely changes these polls. Drastically.

You underestimate the populace's ability to determine on their own that having armed teachers is a bad idea.

:lol CNN narrative

[koriwhat]

What kind of fucking fucked up fucking civilization is fucked up shit hole America where kids are supposed to where transparent backpacks and body armor and teachers are supposed to pack heat? fucking fucked up shit hole insane, sicko America.

you're a fucking loon. wish mentally handicapped individuals like yourself would just move to buttfucking ME already and join your isis brethren.


Our parents did not have cops in their schools. And in Texas, they had rifles or shotguns in the back window of the truck.

Lets blame it on the breakdown of the family unit.

let's not discuss the root of most problems. 99.9% of the populace doesn't care about truth unfortunately.

[Thebesteva]

not just a white guilt but an american guilt trip... fuck em!


I'm not even white but it pisses me off. Not because I'm a white person defender necessarily but taker I hate being lied to by the media and seeing people fall for it

[DMC]

977897459073642497

Without a national firearm database there is no way to know who owns what gun or who sold it.

Just a small caveat.

[Blake]

Your comment really isn't worth responding too but here a link on guns used in mass shootings. Handguns seem like something to protect against if your are going to be begging for policy to make schools safer.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

They begged for the policy. They don't need to wear transparent backpacks. Teachers also don't really need to have guns. That's what you get though when you be for policy for statistical outlier deaths.

Who begged for clear backpacks

[Spurminator]

Without a national firearm database there is no way to know who owns what gun or who sold it.

Just a small caveat.

Right, and we can't do that because then the Government knows who owns firearms and that will make it easier for them to come and get them. Am I close, or is that another strawman?

[lebomb]

Assault rifle ban yes.............semi auto handguns no.

[boutons_deux]

Doctors Skewer Rick Santorum For Suggesting Students Learn CPR, Skip Gun Control Activism

Doctors are firing back on Twitter over Rick Santorum’s suggestion that students take “CPR classes” (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-santorum-says-kids-should-learn-cpr_us_5ab7cb36e4b008c9e5f87731) instead of advocating for gun control following last month’s massacre in Parkland, Florida.

“I can confirm that performing CPR can’t remove AR-15 bullets from a body. Get a clue.”

Santorum accused students of trying to pass the buck when it came to keeping their schools safe.

“How about kids, instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations where there is a violent shooter,” Santorum

“The last thing we need is for kids to administer CPR during a shooter situation and then get shot themselves,” Gu told HuffPost in an email Sunday.

“So Rick Santorum’s comments are not only an assault on our children’s First Amendment rights but are putting our kids in danger with misinformation.”

Rebecca Bell, MD@RebeccaBellMD (https://twitter.com/RebeccaBellMD)

Here are some stats made simple for Rick Santorum:

Survival rate of pulseless trauma victims who get CPR at the scene: VERY, VERY LOW

Survival rate of people who don’t get shot in the first place: MUCH, MUCH BETTER

1:08 PM - Mar 25, 2018 (https://twitter.com/RebeccaBellMD/status/977970536985788422)

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-santorum-doctors-react_us_5ab7f039e4b008c9e5f88e52?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__032618&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__032618+CID_ad649a50 599178f0b4d896527ea5a920&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__032618

(Catholic) Religion Makes You Stupid

[Blake]

I had forgotten all about Rick Santorum

[boutons_deux]

I had forgotten all about Rick Santorum

I won't forget "man on dog" Santorum

[Nathan89]

https://rhdefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/is-freedom-more-important-than-safety.jpg

:smchode:

Please tell me this is photoshopped.

[Nathan89]

The idiocy is beyond comprehension.

[RandomGuy]

The idiocy is beyond comprehension.

What is a well regulated militia?

[Nathan89]

http://quonation.com/qpics/Franklin_Liberty_Nor_Safety.jpg

[boutons_deux]

http://quonation.com/qpics/Franklin_Liberty_Nor_Safety.jpg

300M+ guns + angry black men, + angry white men is what makes America PERMANENTLY unsafe.

BF had no imagining that his single-shot musket/pistol America would turn into today's military-fire-fight America.

More guns always equals more gun violence.

G F Y

[Nathan89]

977667911811719169

Just a hate group getting off on the idea of killing Americans.

[boutons_deux]

Just a hate group getting off on the idea of killing Americans.

Killing (anybody, anything) for 250 years has been, remains a foundational principle of violent, murderous America.

[Nathan89]

300M+ guns + angry black men, + angry white men is what makes America PERMANENTLY unsafe.

BF had no imagining that his single-shot musket/pistol America would turn into today's military-fire-fight America.

More guns always equals more gun violence.

G F Y

His logic is as true then as it is today.

[Nathan89]

Killing (anybody, anything) for 250 years has been, remains a foundational principle of violent, murderous America.

Hate groups putting people in the government positions based on the joyous imagery of killing fellow Americans is not very common.

[boutons_deux]

His logic is as true then as it is today.

just like You People (suckered by BigGun/NRA) PERVERT the 2nd Amendment, you pervert BF to your own gun-fellating sickness

[Nathan89]

just like You People (suckered by BigGun/NRA) PERVERT the 2nd Amendment, you pervert BF to your own gun-fellating sickness

Ben's quote fits this scenario to a t tbh.

[RandomGuy]

Ben's quote fits this scenario to a t tbh.

What is a well regulated militia?

[RandomGuy]

..

(broken link)

[RandomGuy]

His logic is as true then as it is today.

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Constitution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/second-amendment-guns-michael-waldman/

[boutons_deux]

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Constitution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/second-amendment-guns-michael-waldman/

the oligarchy's extreme activist, anti-originalist (when it suits their politics) SCOTUS 5 broke, in Heller v Wash DC, the link between right to arms and militia.

The broken link is now "settled (Constitutional) law"

So it doesn't really matter anymore the what and why of the "originalist" meaning of militia as slave-suppressing/-hunting groups in the slave states.

Slavery and country-wide pervasive racism toward slavery's descendants has fatally fucked up America, and is exploited by oligarchy/Repugs to keep America fucked up.

[Blake]

http://quonation.com/qpics/Franklin_Liberty_Nor_Safety.jpg

:lol equating essential liberty with :cry muh guns :cry

[DMC]

Right, and we can't do that because then the Government knows who owns firearms and that will make it easier for them to come and get them. Am I close, or is that another strawman?

It would nullify the FOPA.

Its not in the poll.

This has always been the hurdle to reach universal background checks.

[DMC]

:lol equating essential liberty with :cry muh guns :cry

The framers did.

[koriwhat]

just like You People (suckered by BigGun/NRA) PERVERT the 2nd Amendment, you pervert BF to your own gun-fellating sickness

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

[DMC]

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Constitution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/second-amendment-guns-michael-waldman/

USSC case law already established that. Welcome to the present.

[DMC]

I wish people would stop quoting boots, he is ignored for a reason.

[DMC]

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

[DMC]

If you want to repeal FOPA, it contains the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons and the manufacture of same for sale to public.

[boutons_deux]

Hate groups putting people in the government positions based on the joyous imagery of killing fellow Americans is not very common.

The USA has been in a major war on average every 20 years for 200+ years.

USA has 100s of known military installation across the planet, plus Seal teams, etc murdering people everywhere.

Murder rate in USA exceeds by far every other industrial country.

Murder is American as pathogenic fast so-called food-like substances

[Th'Pusher]

If you want to repeal FOPA, it contains the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons and the manufacture of same for sale to public.

There’s actually a process for amending existing law. That would allow you to keep the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons while eliminating the parts in the law that are preventing universal background checks from being implemented.

[Blake]

The framers did.

"He [Franklin] was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it....."

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

[Blake]

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

Kw logic

[RandomGuy]

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

What is a well regulated militia?

[RandomGuy]

USSC case law already established that. Welcome to the present.

You don't seem to be answering the question.

What is a well regulated militia?

[RandomGuy]

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

"when you actually go back and look at the debate that went into drafting of the amendment, you can squint and look really hard, but there’s simply no evidence of it being about individual gun ownership for self-protection or for hunting. Emphatically, the focus was on the militias. To the framers, that phrase “a well-regulated militia” was really critical."

[KenMcCoy]

You don't seem to be answering the question.

What is a well regulated militia?

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

please be merciful of these ignorant fucks, stupified into drooling, knuck-dragging, pot-belly-ed ignorance by guns and/or religion

[RandomGuy]

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

No, it was meant to provide for common defense in case of invasion, because our standing army was weak.

What is a well regulated militia?

[boutons_deux]

No, it was meant to provide for common defense in case of invasion, because our standing army was weak.

What is a well regulated militia?

wrong

it was a enticement for the slave states, needing their ratification of the Constitution, that those states could maintain the arming of their slave-hunting/slave-oppressing "militias".

[RandomGuy]

Seems to me like these protests are the answer to all those thoughts and prayers for the victims.

God has picked them as the answer.

[RandomGuy]

wrong

it was a enticement for the slave states, needing their ratification of the Constitution, that those states could maintain the arming of their slave-hunting/slave-oppressing "militias".

There was also that aspect, true.

[KenMcCoy]

What is a well regulated militia?

A properly operating body of citizen soldiers.

[KenMcCoy]

What democracies have lasted for more than 225 years where the citizens don't have the right to bear arms/form militias?

[boutons_deux]

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

goddamn, you're fucking stupid.

It appears you haven't seen the militarized, heavily armed police state essentially working for BigCorp/oligarchy.

That police state would crush any of you ignorant tri-cornered-hat gun fellators. Y'all talk big, but have tiny balls behind your penis steel proxies.

[koriwhat]

What is a well regulated militia?

lol what's that have to do with me? i don't give a shit about some militia.

[KenMcCoy]

goddamn, you're fucking stupid.

It appears you haven't seen the militarized, heavily armed police state essentially working for BigCorp/oligarchy.

That police state would crush any of you ignorant tri-cornered-hat gun fellators. Y'all talk big, but have tiny balls behind your penis steel proxies.

It's amazing that you wouldn't even want the option of trying to fight the oppression.

[pgardn]

"He [Franklin] was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it....."

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

Damn you for bringing context into this apparent phobia.
And damn you for living in the 21st century as well.

Let us conserve the past to its fullest extent. Lancing of boils and burning of witches, let's do it again.

[Blake]

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

Your government has nukes. Do you think you have the right to bear nukes?

[KenMcCoy]

Your government has nukes. Do you think you have the right to bear nukes?

Nukes not necessary...just guns.

[Pavlov]

Nukes not necessary...just guns.But then they nuke you.

You lose.

[koriwhat]

It's amazing that you wouldn't even want the option of trying to fight the oppression.

and you would think otherwise, why? dude gave up his will to think for himself so giving up on defending himself, if need be, is without question altogether.

[Nathan89]

"The government is going to nuke you.":lmao

[KenMcCoy]

But then they nuke you.

You lose.

At least I tried.

[Blake]

"The government is going to nuke you.":lmao

:lmao "quotes"

[Blake]

At least I tried.

Do you have the right to bear nukes

[Pavlov]

"The government is going to nuke you.":lmaoOK, they drop a conventional bomb on you.

You lose.

[Blake]

OK, they drop a conventional bomb on you.

You lose.

But muh gun-show bomb will counter that

[Nathan89]

The tyrannical government loses when they start eating bullets. Have fun with your pin-point nukes. :lol

[Chris]

Do you have the right to bear nukes

"So just give up your guns because you are fucked anyway" - Liberal Logic 101

:lol

[Pavlov]

But muh gun-show bomb will counter thatBOMB show

[Chris]

:cry but well regulated means we can ban guns and stuff :cry

[Nathan89]

OK, they drop a conventional bomb on you.

You lose.

Fine. That's why the diffusion of arms throughout the populace is necessary. Them bombing me does nothing for their cause.

[Pavlov]

The tyrannical government loses when they start eating bullets. Have fun with your pin-point nukes. :lolSo they drop a conventional bomb on you.

You lose.

[Pavlov]

Fine. That's why the diffusion of arms throughout the populace is necessary. Them bombing me does nothing for their cause.It kills you.

Pretty effective tbh.

[Blake]

"So just give up your guns because you are fucked anyway" - Liberal Logic 101

:lol

:lol "quotes"

[KenMcCoy]

It kills you.

Pretty effective tbh.

I'm glad the French resistance didn't think like you in WWII..."Let's not disrupt German supply lines/electrical power because they'll bomb us and one of us might die."

[Blake]

It kills you.

Pretty effective tbh.

:lol Red Dawn

[Chris]

Pav is read to roll over and play dead at the drop of a dime. :lol Last guy you want in a bunker with you. :lmao

[Blake]

I'm glad the French resistance didn't think like you in WWII..."Let's not disrupt German supply lines/electrical power because they'll bomb us and one of us might die."

Do you have the right to bear nukes

[Pavlov]

I'm glad the French resistance didn't think like you in WWII..."Let's not disrupt German supply lines/electrical power because they'll bomb us and one of us might die.":lol Now you're the French resistance?

Tell me, what are you afraid the US government is going to do to make you take up arms against it?

[Nathan89]

"So just give up your guns because you are fucked anyway" - Liberal Logic 101

:lol

Well you are fucked regardless so it's best if your opponent isn't also fucked.:lol

[koriwhat]

Pav is read to roll over and play dead at the drop of a dime. :lol Last guy you want in a bunker with you. :lmao

i might be rail thin but yall seen chump before, right? yeah, you hit the nail on the head chris!

[Pavlov]

i might be rail thin but yall seen chump before, right?You have?

Describe what I look like.

[Blake]

:cheer yeah, you hit the nail on the head chris!:cheer

[KenMcCoy]

:lol Now you're the French resistance?

Tell me, what are you afraid the US government is going to do to make you take up arms against it?

Providing historical example of a Gov't going against the will of the people :lol

Right now, I'm not afraid the US gov't is going to do anything. But, I like to keep my options open.

[Nathan89]

i might be rail thin but yall seen chump before, right? yeah, you hit the nail on the head chris!

His weakness isn't in the body but the mind tbh.

[Blake]

Well you are fucked regardless so it's best if your opponent isn't also fucked.:lol

You just laughed about the government nuking the rebellion. Pick a lane, tbh.

[RandomGuy]

What is a well regulated militia?


A properly operating body of citizen soldiers.

Define "properly operating"? Who determines what is properly operating and what isn't?

Define "citizen soldier".

[Pavlov]

Providing historical example of a Gov't going against the will of the people :lolYeah, after an invasion and occupation and overthrow of the entire previous system of government. Is that what you're afraid of?


Right now, I'm not afraid the US gov't is going to do anything. But, I like to keep my options open.Theoretically, what are you afraid the government will do?

[Nathan89]

Providing historical example of a Gov't going against the will of the people :lol

Right now, I'm not afraid the US gov't is going to do anything. But, I like to keep my options open.

What the fuck you don't want to be a short-term thinker blind to future possibilities?:lmao

[Nathan89]

You just laughed about the government nuking the rebellion. Pick a lane, tbh.

I was laughing at that strategy.

[RandomGuy]

What democracies have lasted for more than 225 years where the citizens don't have the right to bear arms/form militias?

I washed my car, then it rained. Therefore washing my car caused it to rain.

[RandomGuy]

It's amazing that you wouldn't even want the option of trying to fight the oppression.

The best way to fight tyranny is being informed and active in your government.

Guns are for lazy shits who don't want to do either, IMO.

[Nathan89]

One second ago: The government could nuke you.

Now: What are you afraid the government will do?

[Chris]

America dropped a lot of bombs on Vietnam and still got their ass kicked. Russians dropped a lot of bombs on Afghanistan and still got their asses kicked by a bunch of tribes with AK's hiding in caves.

[KenMcCoy]

What is a well regulated militia?



Define "properly operating"? Who determines what is properly operating and what isn't?

Define "citizen soldier".

Nobody needs to define what is properly operating and what isn't. It's just groups of regular people fighting for what they believe is right.

If there comes a time where we (Americans) need a true militia, I doubt we'd be getting approval from the tyranny we're trying to fight if it's approved and properly operating.

[Pavlov]

One second ago: The government could nuke you.

Now: What are you afraid the government will do?You laughed off the government's nuking you.

Laughter was your defense against nukes.

[Pavlov]

America dropped a lot of bombs on Vietnam and still got their ass kicked. Russians dropped a lot of bombs on Afghanistan and still got their asses kicked by a bunch of tribes with AK's hiding in caves.So you're afraid the US will be invaded and occupied too?

By whom?

[Nathan89]

I washed my car, then it rained. Therefore washing my car caused it to rain.

I put ingredients in my packaged food that extended the shelf life would be more comparable.

[KenMcCoy]

Yeah, after an invasion and occupation and overthrow of the entire previous system of government. Is that what you're afraid of?

Theoretically, what are you afraid the government will do?

I'm afraid of a permanent governing class, I'd be worried if a president was successful in revoking term limits. I already think congress needs term limits...

[Pavlov]

I'm afraid of a permanent governing class, I'd be worried if a president was successful in revoking term limits. I already think congress needs term limits...Which president has even hinted at unilaterally revoking a constitutional amendment?

[Nathan89]

You laughed off the government's nuking you.

Laughter was your defense against nukes.

I laughed at that strategy. Which wouldn't be effective at all. Also comical that you think that would be good reason to give up your right to guns. A formidable foe logically calls for you to weaken yourself.

[Chris]

So you're afraid the US will be invaded and occupied too?

By whom?

No I was just laughing at your hypothesis just like the general consensus is ITT :lol

[Pavlov]

I laughed at that strategy. Which wouldn't be effective at all.If it kills you, how is it not effective?

[Pavlov]

No I was just laughing at your hypothesis just like the general consensus is ITT :lolSo what are you afraid the government will do to make you take up arms against it?

[Nathan89]

If it kills you, how is it not effective?

The same way making a big drug bust hasn't been effective in stopping drugs.

[RandomGuy]

Nobody needs to define what is properly operating and what isn't. It's just groups of regular people fighting for what they believe is right.

If there comes a time where we (Americans) need a true militia, I doubt we'd be getting approval from the tyranny we're trying to fight if it's approved and properly operating.

Yes, actually, it is a legal question.

Legal issues require definitions.

Constitutional issues require definitions.

Hand-waving doesn't really cut it in court, much to the chagrin of creationists, and people who believe in the voter fraud myth.


Define "properly operating"? Who determines what is properly operating and what isn't?

Define "citizen soldier".

[Pavlov]

The same way making a big drug bust hasn't been effective in stopping drugs.But you're dead. The strategy was to kill you.

[RandomGuy]

I'm afraid of a permanent governing class

I would argue we already have one. They enrich themselves and get elected, not always in that order.

This ruling class funds Super Pacs to the tune of billions of dollars, and they even have their own propaganda arms, such as Fox "news" and so forth. The richest 1% have been very effective at convincing the dumbest 20% that rich people give a shit about them.

[RandomGuy]

I'd be worried if a president was successful in revoking term limits. I already think congress needs term limits...

Which president has said that he wanted to revoke the broadcast licenses of outlets he didn't agree with?

Which president is blocking a business merger of a company he didn't agree with?

[Chris]

I would argue we already have one.

We do, it's called the deep state. Trump is currently fighting it with all its cords and tethers.

[pgardn]

Providing historical example of a Gov't going against the will of the people :lol

Right now, I'm not afraid the US gov't is going to do anything. But, I like to keep my options open.

Do you think you will be joining others in a well regulated militia?
If so, I suggest communication devices other than cell phones. Let's think ahead here.
You got canned food stored somewhere? Hold out, communicate, form sort of movement. Somebody is really gonna need artillery I'm thinking. Maybe you just capture that. There will be those who turn against the government.

Some of you guys have got to be getting a bit of a woody by now...

[Nathan89]

But you're dead. The strategy was to kill you.

The problem is you don't think big picture tbh. They were effective at killing me is equivalent to street dealer drug bust(not even a big drug bust). And apparently they utilized a nuke to do it. Which moved even more people against the tyrannical government. Not just in the country but now they've motivated other countries to get involved because these people are lunatics and an environmental risk. I guess that's what you consider "effective".

[Blake]

I was laughing at that strategy.

What future possibility are you thinking could happen?

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZNTQHpX4AAgcAi.jpg:large

[Blake]

The problem is you don't think big picture tbh. They were effective at killing me is equivalent to street dealer drug bust(not even a big drug bust). And apparently they utilized a nuke to do it. Which moved even more people against the tyrannical government. Not just in the country but now they've motivated other countries to get involved because these people are lunatics and an environmental risk. I guess that's what you consider "effective".

Well if the civilian militia had it's own nukes, they could cold war the government into a stalemate

Big picture

[Blake]

We do, it's called the deep state. Trump is currently fighting it with all its cords and tethers.

Bwahaaaaa hahaha.

[Pavlov]

The problem is you don't think big picture tbh. They were effective at killing me is equivalent to street dealer drug bust(not even a big drug bust). And apparently they utilized a nuke to do it. Which moved even more people against the tyrannical government. Not just in the country but now they've motivated other countries to get involved because these people are lunatics and an environmental risk. I guess that's what you consider "effective".Ok, so they just drop a conventional bomb on you and kill you.

Effective?

[Blake]

No I was just laughing at your hypothesis just like the general consensus is ITT :lol


So what are you afraid the government will do to make you take up arms against it?


meme deflection

The usual

[Blake]

Ok, so they just drop a conventional bomb on you and kill you.

Effective?

What's lower/next after conventional bomb

[Chris]

Blake has officially lost all his marbles :lol

[Blake]

Chris still terrified to post a thought of his own :lol

[Chris]

Blake: hurr durr that's retarded

Blake: hurr durr that's rich

Blake: hurr durr lol (insert random 1-3 words here)

95% of Blake's posts :lol

[KenMcCoy]

Which president has said that he wanted to revoke the broadcast licenses of outlets he didn't agree with?

Which president is blocking a business merger of a company he didn't agree with?

You are worried, yet you support them taking away your means to fight? Mind boggling...

[Chris]

*RandomGuy logs out

[boutons_deux]

Young Joe B

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[RandomGuy]

*RandomGuy logs out

:cry Randomguy isn't focused on me! :cry


:rollin

Deal with it. You aren't the center of my world. :lol

[Chris]

:cry Randomguy isn't focused on me! :cry


:rollin

Deal with it. You aren't the center of my world. :lol

Still waiting on that proof that Donald is a sexual predator :lol tick tock

[koriwhat]

Still waiting on that proof that Donald is a sexual predator :lol tick tock

there proof of anything comes wrapped in shiny speculation and lies.

[Chris]

there proof of anything comes wrapped in shiny speculation and lies.

It's not official until Maddow or Tapper says it :lol

[Blake]

Still waiting on that proof that Donald is a sexual predator :lol tick tock

Get close and see if he'll grab your pussy

[koriwhat]

It's not official until Maddow or Tapper says it :lol

yeah but which one is the dude and which one is the chick? i can't tell between both of those losers tbh.

[koriwhat]

Get close and see if he'll grab your pussy

or fuck your ol lady while you soak the cushions on your couch.

[DMC]

What is a well regulated militia?

You'll know when the time comes

If the organization isn't actually making newspapers, they're not really the press because they're not pressing anyting therefore freedom of the press doesn't mean anything anymore unless you're actually making newspapers using a physical press.

Just calling yourself a news agency should not give you any constitutional rights to say whatever you want unless you use a physical press.

[Chris]

yeah but which one is the dude and which one is the chick? i can't tell between both of those losers tbh.

:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

You'll know when the time comes

If the organization isn't actually making newspapers, they're not really the press because they're not pressing anyting therefore freedom of the press doesn't mean anything anymore unless you're actually making newspapers using a physical press.

Just calling yourself a news agency should not give you any constitutional rights to say whatever you want unless you use a physical press.

Wow

[CosmicCowboy]

or fuck your ol lady while you soak the cushions on your couch.

Trump clearly has appearance standards.

[Blake]

You'll know when the time comes


I'm not sure how well regulated these guys are but

http://texascitizensmilitia.com

[Chris]

I'm not sure how well regulated these guys are but

http://texascitizensmilitia.com

It's regulated. Actually a get out of jail free card from what I've heard on the street.

[Blake]

It's regulated. Actually a get out of jail free card from what I've heard on the street.

Bwaaaaahhaaaaaa "the street" "get out of jail free"

[Blake]

Trump clearly has appearance standards.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/melania-trump-meme-3.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=686

Uh huh

[Chris]

^ Jesus Christ look at Bruce's man hands :lmao

[koriwhat]

:lol

http://i65.tinypic.com/149me1.jpg

[Blake]

^ Jesus Christ look at Bruce's man hands :lmao

Makes up for Donalds little hands

[koriwhat]

Makes up for Donalds little hands

i wonder is DJT would grab ol bruce's pussy?

[Chris]

http://i65.tinypic.com/149me1.jpg

:lmao

[pgardn]

America dropped a lot of bombs on Vietnam and still got their ass kicked. Russians dropped a lot of bombs on Afghanistan and still got their asses kicked by a bunch of tribes with AK's hiding in caves.

Chris...

These were foreign interventions. You think the US army, Navy, etc... goes along with killing their own families? You think they come into an American town and just out other Americans from their own part of the country? Really?

And, who is gonna give our tightly bonded? militias stinger missiles to shoot US helicopters down? Seriously...

[Chris]

Chris...

These were foreign interventions. You think the US army, Navy, etc... goes along with killing their own families? You think they come into an American town and just out other Americans from their own part of the country? Really?

And, who is gonna give our tightly bonded? militias stinger missiles to shoot US helicopters down? Seriously...

Actually I don't think that you could convince the American military at large to turn on their own citizens. Maybe a few people at the top but as a whole - not going to happen at least not in our lifetime. PMC's like Academi/Blackhawk OTOH are always ready for a false flag.

[sickdsm]

Assault rifle ban yes.............semi auto handguns no.
Why?

[sickdsm]

But then they nuke you.

You lose.

Technically they nuked themselves.

[sickdsm]

The best way to fight tyranny is being informed and active in your government.

Guns are for lazy shits who don't want to do either, IMO.

Sounds like something uttered before the fall of past dynasties........

[sickdsm]

or fuck your ol lady while you soak the cushions on your couch.
The funny part of this is the fact that Blake is so dumb he lobbed this one right down the middle of the plate without knowing that this would be the response.

[Chris]

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<3

[Th'Pusher]

You'll know when the time comes

If the organization isn't actually making newspapers, they're not really the press because they're not pressing anyting therefore freedom of the press doesn't mean anything anymore unless you're actually making newspapers using a physical press.

Just calling yourself a news agency should not give you any constitutional rights to say whatever you want unless you use a physical press.


Wow

Did you find that analogy profound CC?

What was the purpose of the press at the writing of the constitution? What was the purpose of a militia at the writing of the constitution? DMC’s analogy is shit as usual.

Glad he figured out his primary accounts password tho :tu senile old fuck apparently forgot it for a week or so...

[Pavlov]

978419379359510528

<3:lol *ding*

[Blake]

The funny part of this is the fact that Blake is so dumb he lobbed this one right down the middle of the plate without knowing that this would be the response.

It's a white flag. No surprise, tbh.

[rmt]

Can't these 3D make a gun yet? These printers are getting better - I read that they can build a house from it. What's the use of background checks and gun laws then? Are they going to outlaw 3D printers?

[koriwhat]

Can't these 3D make a gun yet? These printers are getting better - I read that they can build a house from it. What's the use of background checks and gun laws then? Are they going to outlaw 3D printers?

let me print one off tonight... lol it'll take forever tbh. my printer isn't the fastest of 3d printers.

[pgardn]

Can't these 3D make a gun yet? These printers are getting better - I read that they can build a house from it. What's the use of background checks and gun laws then? Are they going to outlaw 3D printers?

These things are enormously expensive.
The real problem is material that the 3-d printer lays down in 3-d. It's very expensive, takes a long time, and is limited in type (mostly plastics) They are coming out with some metal powders to make 3-d metal parts but it's less expensive to just machine them.

[koriwhat]

These things are enormously expensive.
The real problem is material that the 3-d printer lays down in 3-d. It's very expensive, takes a long time, and is limited in type (mostly plastics) They are coming out with some metal powders to make 3-d metal parts but it's less expensive to just machine them.

not overly expensive. my printrbot simple was $900 and filament pla is like $30 a spool. would take estimated like 8 hours to produce such a piece. really depends. i see better printers these days at a 3rd the cost. plus there's better options than pla at the moment but i rarely use my printer if at all so i never explored those other filaments.

[rmt]

Sounds like computers and cel phones - just a matter of time

[pgardn]

not overly expensive. my printrbot simple was $900 and filament pla is like $30 a spool. would take estimated like 8 hours to produce such a piece. really depends. i see better printers these days at a 3rd the cost. plus there's better options than pla at the moment but i rarely use my printer if at all so i never explored those other filaments.

You have plastic spools... They are really used for model making. The metal powders, that are really important for long use items, are prohitively expensive. So are the printers that can handle them. Plastics are really cool, but they are short lived in many machines.

[koriwhat]

You have plastic spools... The metal powders, that are really important for long use items, are prohitively expensive. So are the printers that can handle them. Plastics are really cool, but they are short lived in many machines.

indeed you're right on all accounts here.

a buddy of mine that makes my everyday tools has a $100K cnc machine in his garage. his garage is practically taken up by that machine. it's expensive and huge no doubt. he used to machine everything himself but now he can turn out product faster than he ever could imagine before.

[Aztecfan03]

Anyone want to talk about this living strawman that I just found?:lmao

Strawman? Many people are arguing for that.

[Aztecfan03]

Assault rifle ban yes.............semi auto handguns no.

You know what is not an assault rifle? AR-15

[DMC]

I'm not sure how well regulated these guys are but

http://texascitizensmilitia.com

You should know by now that I won't click on stupid links just to follow your breadcrumb trail to the next extreme example of you trying to make a point.

Read about the Battle of Gonzales.

But since 90% of the respondents to that poll said that they were in favor of these gun laws, why don't they just voluntarily give up their firearms and then 90% of the people should be disarmed if that poll is truly representative of the general population?

[Chris]

Cameron Kasky who agreed to a live debate over his conflicting views over gun reform with fellow Marjory Stoneman Douglas student Kyle Kashuv, has pulled out of the deal citing "personal reasons." (:lmao)


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[Chris]

978464846680276992

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

Damn, Chris really wants to beat up on young victims of gun violence.

[Chris]

Damn, Chris really wants to beat up on young victims of gun violence.

Truth nuke hit you hard eh?

[Pavlov]

Truth nuke hit you hard eh?That you want to beat up on young victims of violence?

Sure. It's pretty reprehensible.

[DMC]

So because these kids who are not old enough to own a gun and not responsible for their own safety of course have for some reason important takes on constitutional rights and safety because they were traumatized? I don't want to minimize their suffering mentally however it doesn't mean they are the voice of reason. Traumatized people are rarely the voice of reason.

[Pavlov]

So because these kids who are not old enough to own a gun and not responsible for their own safety of course have for some reason important takes on constitutional rights and safety because they were traumatized? I don't want to minimize their suffering mentally however it doesn't mean they are the voice of reason. Traumatized people are rarely the voice of reason.
You just minimized their suffering.

Congratulations.

[Chris]

You just minimized their suffering.

Congratulations.

What about the victims of Chicago and their suffering? Selective outrage.

Congratulations.

[Pavlov]

What about*ding*

Congratulations.

[DMC]

You just minimized their suffering.

Congratulations.

No. Were you pinging them for their opinions prior to the shooting? Why did they suddenly become so important?

[DMC]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/melania-trump-meme-3.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=686

Uh huh

So you think Melania Trump looks like Caitlyn Jenner? This explains your life predicament

[Pavlov]

No.Yes.

Congratulations.

[Chris]

*ding*

Congratulations.

Bandera blanca.

Felicitaciones.

[Nathan89]

Damn, Chris really wants to beat up on young victims of gun violence.

If they want to push policy on the rest of Americans then that's what they should expect. Can't beg for policy and pull the victim card when confronted. That's absurd but of course you think that's reasonable.

[sickdsm]

So you think Melania Trump looks like Caitlyn Jenner? This explains your life predicament
My thoughts exactly. Ones a nine, the other is a man.

[Blake]

You should know by now that I won't click on stupid links just to follow your breadcrumb trail to the next extreme example of you trying to make a point.

Read about the Battle of Gonzales.

But since 90% of the respondents to that poll said that they were in favor of these gun laws, why don't they just voluntarily give up their firearms and then 90% of the people should be disarmed if that poll is truly representative of the general population?

The link was a joke in reference to your stupid post.

[Blake]

My thoughts exactly. Ones a nine, the other is a man.

:lol a 9.

She looks like Jenner. I'm sure they've both had some of the same plastic surgery done.

[Blake]

So you think Melania Trump looks like Caitlyn Jenner?

Yeah. Apparently I'm not the only one.

[Blake]

If they want to push policy on the rest of Americans then that's what they should expect. Can't beg for policy and pull the victim card when confronted. That's absurd but of course you think that's reasonable.

Word salad

[RandomGuy]

What is a well regulated militia?


You'll know when the time comes

If the organization isn't actually making newspapers, they're not really the press because they're not pressing anyting therefore freedom of the press doesn't mean anything anymore unless you're actually making newspapers using a physical press.

Just calling yourself a news agency should not give you any constitutional rights to say whatever you want unless you use a physical press.

:lmao

So you don't know what a well regulated militia is.

[RandomGuy]

...

[sickdsm]

:lol a 9.

She looks like Jenner. I'm sure they've both had some of the same plastic surgery done.
Again, Blake talking out of his ass. She's pushing near 50. Go round up 1000 random 50 yr old women and you try to show me 100 that are better looking.


Not sure why you bring up cosmetic surgery. You seem to really value the n natural body then compare her to someone that has had his dick chopped off.

[Blake]

Again, Blake talking out of his ass. She's pushing near 50. Go round up 1000 random 50 yr old women and you try to show me 100 that are better looking.


Not sure why you bring up cosmetic surgery. You seem to really value the n natural body then compare her to someone that has had his dick chopped off.

:lol a nine

[Blake]

"American comedian David Mills*told Sam Delaney he thinks*Caitlyn Jenner, the famous transgender reality star, would be a great candidate for Melania's job, saying "I, for a long time,*have wanted someone to answer the question 'why has no one seen Melania Trump and Caitlyn Jenner in the same room.'"

http://talkradio.co.uk/news/melania-trumps-body-double-could-be-caitlyn-jenner-says-comedian-17101920007

[rmt]

:lol a 9.

She looks like Jenner. I'm sure they've both had some of the same plastic surgery done.

IMO, she's a 10 for an almost 48 year old - beautiful, stylish and elegant. I cannot look at Jenner without remembering his Olympic heroics and feeling slightly nauseous now (as in a prime male specimen turned into whatever he/she calls self now).

[Chris]

Yeah Blake's an idiot. ^ :lol

[Chris]

I say let the kids keep talking. :lol


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[KenMcCoy]

Yes, actually, it is a legal question.

Legal issues require definitions.

Constitutional issues require definitions.

Hand-waving doesn't really cut it in court, much to the chagrin of creationists, and people who believe in the voter fraud myth.


Define "properly operating"? Who determines what is properly operating and what isn't?

Define "citizen soldier".

“Well-Regulated Militia.” In United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, 179 (1939), we explained that “the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.
...
Finally, the adjective “well-regulated” implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

[boutons_deux]

"in concert for the common defense"

no mention of Constitutional convention putting in the 2nd Amendment to mollify slave states, to get their ratifying votes, so that the slave states were guaranteed arms for their "slave patrols" aka "militias"

1) to hunt escaped slaves and

2) to put down slave rebellions?

you gun fellators have been so duped, lied to about the 2nd Amendment, it's hilarious.

Constitutional convention put in 2nd Amendment so the states could attack the national govt that the convention was trying to create? :lol

Dems want to confiscate and/or ban all guns? :lol

[spurraider21]

“Well-Regulated Militia.” In United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, 179 (1939), we explained that “the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.
...
Finally, the adjective “well-regulated” implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
well then, looks like everybody needs to be properly trained to be part of the "well-regulated" militia. almost like requiring a license.

[Chris]

well then, looks like everybody needs to be properly trained to be part of the "well-regulated" militia. almost like requiring a license.

You're ready to roll over I bet.

[Blake]

You're ready to roll over I bet.

Who's gonna get you?

[boutons_deux]

well then, looks like everybody needs to be properly trained to be part of the "well-regulated" militia. almost like requiring a license.

nope, the so-called anti-activists-of-convenience oligarchy's SCOTUS 5 shills ACTIVIST-LY rewrote the ORIGINAL meaning and disconnected "right to bear arms" from "militia" in DC v Heller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

[Chris]

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[KenMcCoy]

well then, looks like everybody needs to be properly trained to be part of the "well-regulated" militia. almost like requiring a license.

The first part of the 2A is a preface, not the only preface, but a preface.

"(a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2–22."

"(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved. Pp. 22–28.

[Pavlov]

If they want to push policy on the rest of Americans then that's what they should expect. Can't beg for policy and pull the victim card when confronted. That's absurd but of course you think that's reasonable.Would you call the kids who went through the Parkland shooting victims?

Yes or no.

[Pavlov]

Who's gonna get you?Groups of black men.

[Nathan89]

I say let the kids keep talking. :lol


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"The NRA loves things like Sandy Hook.":lmao

[spurraider21]

yeah they just threw in that clause for shits and giggles. a 12 word clause out of a 22 word amendment. just a tip.

[Nathan89]

Would you call the kids who went through the Parkland shooting victims?

Yes or no.

That's irrelevant to me.

[Chris]

That's irrelevant to me.

Sadly this is their only argument. Ban guns or you don't care about dead kids.

[Pavlov]

That's irrelevant to me.You're the one talking shit about victimhood.

Would you call the kids who went through the Parkland shooting victims?

Yes or no.

[KenMcCoy]

yeah they just threw in that clause for shits and giggles. a 12 word clause out of a 22 word amendment. just a tip.


3. Relationship between Prefatory Clause and Operative Clause We reach the question, then: Does the preface fit with an operative clause that creates an individual right to keep and bear arms? It fits perfectly, once one knows the history that the founding generation knew and that we have described above. That history showed that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able bodied men was not by banning the militia but simply by taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress political opponents. This is what had occurred in England that prompted codification of the right to have arms in the English Bill of Rights. The debate with respect to the right to keep and bear arms, as with other guarantees in the Bill of Rights, was not over whether it was desirable (all agreed that it was) but over whether it needed to be codified in the Constitution. During the 1788 ratification debates, the fear that the federal government would disarm the people in order to impose rule through a standing army or select militia was pervasive in Antifederalist rhetoric. See, e.g., Letters from The Federal Farmer III (Oct. 10, 1787), in 2 The Complete Anti-Federalist 234, 242 (H. Storing ed. 1981). John Smilie, for example, worried not only that Congress’s “command of the militia” could be used to create a “select militia,” or to have “no militia at all,” but also, as a separate concern, that “[w]hen a select militia is formed; the people in general may be disarmed.” 2 Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution 508–509 (M. Jensen ed. 1976) (hereinafter Documentary Hist.). Federalists responded that because Congress was given no power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, such a force could never oppress the people.

[spurraider21]

yeah im aware of scalia's opinion

[KenMcCoy]

Well, that's what we have to go by until it's overturned.

[spurraider21]

Well, that's what we have to go by until it's overturned.
sure. i still find it laughable that a 12 word clause of a 22 word amendment was "just a tip"

and that one sentence was the extent to which heller even discussed the prefatory clause. they wouldn't have to flip the whole thing over its head

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

978710343663931392How many rounds do you need to protect your family, Chris?

[Chris]

How many rounds do you need to protect your family, Chris?

Depends on the situation.

[Pavlov]

Depends on the situation.Please post a few situations and the number of rounds for each.

Thanks.

[KenMcCoy]

These two trained officers needed 10 rounds each (20 total) for one perpetrator and hit him "multiple times." Let's say they hit him 10 times, or with 50% of their rounds/5 times each. (20/2=10, 10X50%=5 hits per officer)

I think an average citizen would only be 30% as accurate as a trained peace officer, so for an average home invasion, at least 30 rounds would be sufficient. (50% X 30% = 15%) (30 X 15%= 4.5 hits)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/us/sacramento-police-shooting/index.html

[Pavlov]

These TWO trained officers needed 10 rounds each (20 total) for one perpetrator and hit him "multiple times." Let's say they hit him 10 times, or with 50% of their rounds/5 times each. (20/2=10, 10X50%=5 hits per officer)

I think an average citizen would only be 30% as accurate as a trained peace officer, so for an average home invasion, at least 30 rounds would be sufficient. (50% X 30% = 15%) (30 X 15%= 4.5 hits)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/us/sacramento-police-shooting/index.htmlSo you need to protect yourself against people using cell phones?

:lol what a stupid, shitty example

[KenMcCoy]

If the guy was on my property and it was the middle of the night...sure.

[KenMcCoy]

BTW...the example posted was to show that multiple rounds are required even by trained officers. My statement, which addressed your question of the amount of rounds needed said "...so for an average home invasion..." I did not say in THIS situation.

reading is FUNdamental :)

[Pavlov]

BTW...the example posted was to show that multiple rounds are required even by trained officers. My statement said "...so for an average home invasion..."

reading is FUNdamental :)You're saying it would take you 30 rounds to kill one black man armed with a cell phone?

:lmao

[KenMcCoy]

See edit above.

[Pavlov]

See edit above.OK, how many rounds would you need to kill a scary black man armed with a cell phone?

[Chris]

Please post a few situations and the number of rounds for each.

Thanks.

Name the situation and I will guesstimate for you.

[KenMcCoy]

None. Up to 30 if armed with a gun or otherwise threatening my life while on my property.

[Pavlov]

Name the situation and I will guesstimate for you.A scary black man is in your yard armed with a cell phone.


None. Up to 30 if armed with a gun or otherwise threatening my life while on my property.You can kill a scary black man with no rounds? How do you kill him?

[KenMcCoy]

.

[Chris]

A scary black man is in your yard armed with a cell phone.

I lock the door and call the police. Next situation.

[KenMcCoy]

A scary black man is in your yard armed with a cell phone.

You can kill a scary black man with no rounds? How do you kill him?

No need to kill him. I'm not scared of black guys with cell phones.

[Blake]

I lock the door and call the police. Next situation.

Hey you helped pav's point. Nice work. :lol

[Blake]

No need to kill him. I'm not scared of black guys with cell phones.

:lol your article, dumbass

[KenMcCoy]

Fun game! What about this situation? Three men armed with handguns break into your house?

I need 90 rounds...

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/police-men-entered-cedar-park-home-and-robbed-victims-gunpoint/CWRdihFcGVKn1ouKmaLPDL/

[KenMcCoy]

:lol your article, dumbass

Lol...read my post. Article was only there to show that officers required 10 rounds each.

reading is FUNdamental:)

[Pavlov]

Fun game! What about this situation? Three men armed with handguns break into your house?

I need 90 rounds...

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/police-men-entered-cedar-park-home-and-robbed-victims-gunpoint/CWRdihFcGVKn1ouKmaLPDL/You're going to get off 90 rounds before they shoot you?

:lol None of the victims here were shot and the criminals were caught. I'm sure you can find something better than this.

[KenMcCoy]

I thought the game was how many rounds would I need? Not how many were used in a specific situation. That game isn't as fun since we all have Google...

[Pavlov]

I thought the game was how many rounds would I need? Not how many were used in a specific situation. That game isn't as fun since we all have Google...How many rounds would the three men need to kill you?

[Blake]

Lol...read my post. Article was only there to show that officers required 10 rounds each.

reading is FUNdamental:)

You just said no need to kill him, that you're not scared of black guy with cell phone.

Your reading skills suck.

[SpursforSix]

I thought the game was how many rounds would I need? Not how many were used in a specific situation. That game isn't as fun since we all have Google...

No...I'm pretty sure the game is to ask you so many stupid questions that you'll get tired and not post any more thoughts contrary to theirs.

[DMC]

The link was a joke in reference to your stupid post.

I'll take your word for it.

here: ha ha

[DMC]

Yeah. Apparently I'm not the only one.

So you have company.

[Blake]

I'll take your word for it.

here: ha ha

I concur

[Blake]

So you have company.

Yup.

[DMC]

How many rounds do you need to protect your family, Chris?

How many do you have in that gun you're afraid to keep at home?

[DMC]

Yup.

So you think transexual men are indistinguishable from beautiful women.

Got it.

[DMC]

:lmao

So you don't know what a well regulated militia is.

The Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed. Supreme court upheld.

So you were saying something about a militia.. some red herring. Proceed.

[Pavlov]

How many do you have in that gun you're afraid to keep at home?:lol look at you with your imagined narrative.

What a pussy hypocrite you are.

[Chris]

How many do you have in that gun you're afraid to keep at home?

He keeps it in a safe in his 2nd home :tu Pavlov lives the good life apparently.

[Pavlov]

He keeps it in a safe in his 2nd home :tu Pavlov lives the good life apparently.I don't live it in fear of black men and I don't have fantasies about my family's being killed in a hail of gunfire.

[DMC]

:lol a 9.

She looks like Jenner. I'm sure they've both had some of the same plastic surgery done.

-Regarding Melania Trump

https://media.gq.com/photos/57210cb70b5c36b80bc2d447/master/w_2000/melania-1x1.jpg

vs

https://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/2017/10/17/caitlyn-jenner-750.jpg

:lmao

Blake!! :lmao

[Blake]

So you think transexual men are indistinguishable from beautiful women.

Got it.

Nope. Nobody called them twins.

[DMC]

Nope. Nobody called them twins.

:lmao yes you do!

[RandomGuy]

The Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed. Supreme court upheld.

So you were saying something about a militia.. some red herring. Proceed.

Not a red herring at all. We're talking about constitutional rights and the phrase "a well regulated militia" is the opening words of the 2nd amendment.

Should we not be talking about what is constitutional?