The next James Bond is black

[lefty]

Idris Elba is the new quota hero :cry

[DJR210]

Make him gay while they're at it

[Spurminator]

:cry The 27th remake of Dr. No gonna have a black dude. :cry

[Trainwreck2100]

Idris Elba is the new quota hero :cry

I'm okay with it, he did fine playing a white heimdall

[AaronY]

They should create like a new character..a 008 for him. Have him be introduced in the next Bond then get his own movie. Make everyone happy

[Pavlov]

He'd be fine if he weren't too old.

[leemajors]

He'd be fine if he weren't too old.

He's 5 years younger than Craig.

[SpursforSix]

He'd be fine if he weren't too old.

You’re thinking of Sammy Davis Jr.

[baseline bum]

Elba would be badass as Bond

[Blake]

He's cool but has he ever done any stunts in any movie?

[Chucho]

You’re thinking of Sammy Davis Jr.


A crooning black dude with a glass eye that fires lasers out of it would automatically become the greatest Bond villain EVER.

[Spurminator]

Elba would be badass as Bond

:tu

[tlongII]

I thought Daniel Craig had signed up to do one more Bond movie?

[AaronY]

I thought Daniel Craig had signed up to do one more Bond movie?
I think this is for after that

[monosylab1k]

:cry our ridiculous, make-believe white guy is now a ridiculous, make-believe black guy :cry such SJW bullshit :cry

[Trill Clinton]

Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.

[baseline bum]

Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.

:lmao

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

too accountant-looking for my tastes but thank satan it's not preadolescent gambino

[SpursforSix]

Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.

Plus, modernize the story so the villain is a white suprmicist.

[Trill Clinton]

Plus, modernize the story so the villain is a white suprmicist.

Bend over I'll give you supremacy

[DAF86]

Will they cast a white guy to play Black Panther 50 years from now?

[DAF86]

When is it the Latins turn to start getting top roles?

[spurraider21]

Will they cast a white guy to play Black Panther 50 years from now?
translation:

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant.gif

[DAF86]

And Asians?

[DAF86]

translation:

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant.gif

Thinking I'm some Chris or Spurtacular type conservative that would get mad at something like this. :lol

[Pavlov]

He's 5 years younger than Craig.

Yep, and Craig is almost done. You might get two Bond movies out of Elba and have to start looking all over again.

[monosylab1k]

Will they cast a white guy to play Black Panther 50 years from now?

:cry white people have it so hard now :cry our job as James Bond got taken away from us :cry

[Capt Bringdown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGopsM1G9g

[DAF86]

:cry white people have it so hard now :cry our job as James Bond got taken away from us :cry

I don't give a fuck about white guys. I'm just calling the hypocrisy of only having social justice for blackmen and women. :lol Don't you think it would only be fair to also see your fellow Koreans as lead characters in Hollywood movies? Having Asian guys (and any other minority) get the same opportunities as whites, blacks and women.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over I'll give you supremacy

Usage foul. Must use exact wording.
Approprite response would have been,
”Bend over, I’ll fucking show you a white suprimicist”.

[SpursforSix]

Usage foul. Must use exact wording.
Approprite response would have been,
”Bend over, I’ll fucking show you a white suprimicist”.

Ibf

Bend over, I’ll fucking show you a usage foul.

[leemajors]

Yep, and Craig is almost done. You might get two Bond movies out of Elba and have to start looking all over again.

I'm cool with them never making another Bond movie again.

[Pavlov]

I'm cool with them never making another Bond movie again.:lol I'm just saying he's eight years older than Craig was when he started. The Bond franchise is interesting because it's not owned by any distribution company, so they have to compete to put the movies out. Eon will keep making them as long as they make money.

[tlongII]

I love Bond movies. Craig is the best in the role since Connery. Elba would be good too I think.

[hater]

So many shit movies about an MI6 terrorist

[Spurminator]

I don't give a fuck about white guys. I'm just calling the hypocrisy of only having social justice for blackmen and women. :lol Don't you think it would only be fair to also see your fellow Koreans as lead characters in Hollywood movies? Having Asian guys (and any other minority) get the same opportunities as whites, blacks and women.

It's not social justice, you sensitive tool, it's a very qualified actor getting cast in a role that has been recast half a dozen times already. :lol

There's nothing fundamentally"white" about the character. He's an action hero who's classy. Elba is a great choice.

[Chris]

If a new Shaft movie came out with the lead cast as a white male, you would see the standards flip.

[Blake]

Having Asian guys (and any other minority) get the same opportunities as whites, blacks and women.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZYYMK3FRL._SY445_.jpg

[monosylab1k]

If a new Shaft movie came out with the lead cast as a white male, you would see the standards flip.

Nobody wants a new Shaft movie.

[monosylab1k]

If they went and cast Magic Johnson’s kid as the title character of the John Wayne biopic, then all your SJW whining would be justified. But white conservative tears over James Bond is just stupid.

[Blake]

Nobody wants a new Shaft movie.


Go to liveleak and lookup penis + grinder.

[leemajors]

:lol I'm just saying he's eight years older than Craig was when he started. The Bond franchise is interesting because it's not owned by any distribution company, so they have to compete to put the movies out. Eon will keep making them as long as they make money.

Haha, I was just stating my preference. I didn't know the rights weren't owned by anyone anymore.

[DAF86]

It's not social justice, you sensitive tool, it's a very qualified actor getting cast in a role that has been recast half a dozen times already. :lol

There's nothing fundamentally"white" about the character. He's an action hero who's classy. Elba is a great choice.

Yeah, sure. :lol

I'm cool with colour blind casting, but you are really naive ir you think this is the case.

Also, when are we having a Latin or Asian lead, or do those ethnicities not have good actors?

[DAF86]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZYYMK3FRL._SY445_.jpg

An Asian guy starring in ONE karate flick. Yeah, you got me. :lol

[Blake]

Yeah, sure. :lol

I'm cool with colour blind casting, but you are really naive ir you think this is the case.

Also, when are we having a Latin or Asian lead, or do those ethnicities not have good actors?

How many Latin/Asian actors do you know of that have or can pull off a British accent?

[DJR210]

Elba would be badass as Bond

I think Elba is great actor. But this is forced.

[Blake]

An Asian guy starring in ONE karate flick. Yeah, you got me. :lol

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61SzmwrFUzL._UY260_UX260_AL_.jpg

[monosylab1k]

I think Elba is great actor. But this is forced.

How is it forced?

[Pavlov]

Haha, I was just stating my preference. I didn't know the rights weren't owned by anyone anymore.Looks like they never were. Every movie in the series has been produced by Eon which hardly does anything else.

[DJR210]

How is it forced?

IMO, same way as radically changing the Ghostbusters was forced. Same way as creating a movie for Black Panther (one of the shittiest least popular characters growing up) was forced, at the height of the BLM movement.

[Trill Clinton]

Usage foul. Must use exact wording.
Approprite response would have been,
”Bend over, I’ll fucking show you a white suprimicist”.
Bend over, I'll show you a usage foul.

[Blake]

IMO, same way as radically changing the Ghostbusters was forced. Same way as creating a movie for Black Panther (one of the shittiest least popular characters growing up) was forced, at the height of the BLM movement.

That point falls pretty flat seeing as how Black Panther made a shit load of money.

[Trill Clinton]

IMO, same way as radically changing the Ghostbusters was forced. Same way as creating a movie for Black Panther (one of the shittiest least popular characters growing up) was forced, at the height of the BLM movement.

Black panther was a beast in the comics and one of the few characters to weild the infinity gauntlet. Any man is forced

[DJR210]

That point falls pretty flat seeing as how Black Panther made a shit load of money.

Of course it did. It was strategically released at the perfect time. I'm not saying it wasn't a brilliant time to make a Black Panther movie. I'm saying it was no coincidence.

[Pavlov]

If a new Shaft movie came out with the lead cast as a white male, you would see the standards flip.We've already had whites playing actual ethnic characters. The thing is there's really not much distinguishing the Bond character as a white guy -- just a British guy so a black or even an Indian dude could be plausible given everything that's happened in the empire since the 50s.

Shaft? Character is black, but sure -- have Kirk Cameron play him in a reboot.

[Chris]

Black panther was a beast in the comics and one of the few characters to weild the infinity gauntlet. Any man is forced


nerd alert :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Of course it did. It was strategically released at the perfect time. I'm not saying it wasn't a brilliant time to make a Black Panther movie. I'm saying it was no coincidence.

Then that means it wasn’t forced.

[DJR210]

Black panther was a beast in the comics and one of the few characters to weild the infinity gauntlet. Any man is forced

Growing up Marvel trading cards and comics were the SHIT. The Marvel Masterpiece cards and all that shit were popular as hell.. Spiderman and X-men both have shows on Fox.. I have zero recollection of anybody giving a damn about Black Panther. I only knew who he was because of this book:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61LBxECOJJL.jpg

[Trill Clinton]

nerd alert :lmao
So what

[DJR210]

Then that means it wasn’t forced.

For shits and giggles I would love to see ticket sales broken down by race per Marvel movie over the last 3 years


nerd alert :lmao

Better troll bait needed tbh, we all were kids at one point.

[Chris]

The thing is there's really not much distinguishing the Bond character as a white guy

Except for some 25 movies that cast Bond as a white guy and Ian Fleming writing him as an improved version of himself (a white Englishman). Aside from that I guess you're right?

[Chris]

https://www.quora.com/Did-Ian-Fleming-actually-ever-state-that-James-Bond-was-white-or-did-readers-assume-that-to-be-the-case

/thread

[monosylab1k]

For shits and giggles I would love to see ticket sales broken down by race per Marvel movie over the last 3 years


If Black Panther came out at the perfect time to maximize it’s profits, that’s literally the opposite of forced. Agreed on Ghostbusters tho. I don’t see how Idris Elba as Bond is forced, he’s easily the best option aside from maybe Tom Hardy.

[monosylab1k]

https://www.quora.com/Did-Ian-Fleming-actually-ever-state-that-James-Bond-was-white-or-did-readers-assume-that-to-be-the-case

/thread

:lmao “Of course Bond was white, people were too racist to allow a black spy back then”

[Trill Clinton]

Growing up Marvel trading cards and comics were the SHIT. The Marvel Masterpiece cards and all that shit were popular as hell.. Spiderman and X-men both have shows on Fox.. I have zero recollection of anybody giving a damn about Black Panther. I only knew who he was because of this book:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61LBxECOJJL.jpg

He got plenty of shine in the comic world, made cameos in several marvel cartoons and had his own series on bet. He had a bigger following than blade who had 3 films.

The only thing I can say is forced is mystique being the centerpiece in these x men movies. BP earned his film and the numbers prove it.

[DJR210]

If Black Panther came out at the perfect time to maximize it’s profits, that’s literally the opposite of forced. Agreed on Ghostbusters. I don’t see how Idris Elba as Bond is forced, he’s easily the best option aside from maybe Tom Hardy.

My point walks a fine line because I like Idris. But this IMO is not because he's a great actor. It's agenda based vs talent based casting, not to say he doesn't have the talent.

[DJR210]

He got plenty of shine in the comic world, made cameos in several marvel cartoons and had his own series on bet. He had a bigger following than blade who had 3 films.

The only thing I can say is forced is mystique being the centerpiece in these x men movies. BP earned his film and the numbers prove it.

:lol

Agreed on Mystique though.. she ain't shit. It's a damn shame justice wasn't shown to Juggernaut considering they made 18 X-Men movies

[Pavlov]

Except for some 25 movies that cast Bond as a white guy and Ian Fleming writing him as an improved version of himself (a white Englishman). Sean Connery is Scottish.
Timothy Dalton is Welsh.
Pierce Brosnan is Irish.
George Lazenby is Australian.

There's nothing requiring the James Bond character to be white except muh heritage.

[monosylab1k]

My point walks a fine line because I like Idris. But this IMO is not because he's a great actor. It's agenda based vs talent based casting, not to say he doesn't have the talent.

So you’re saying he’s a great actor and talented enough to play the part, but that he isn’t being hired for those reasons? :lol

[Chris]

It's agenda based vs talent based casting

Comes off as virtue signaling to me as well. "Look guys - we're casting James Bond as a black male! Aren't we diverse and tolerant?! Give us your money!"

[DJR210]

..and crazy thing is people typically have no clue that Blade, Punisher, and even Howard the fucking Duck all had Marvel movies before Marvel Movies were a thing


Comes off as virtue signaling to me as well. "Look guys - we're casting James Bond as a black male! Aren't we diverse and tolerant?! Give us your money!"

Yes. Point I'm trying to make. Watch us break down barriers so reward us with millions

[DJR210]

So you’re saying he’s a great actor and talented enough to play the part, but that he isn’t being hired for those reasons? :lol

Yes. Why wasn't Denzel cast over Pierce Brosnan in the 90's? Denzel would be a great Bond.

[DJR210]

Anyways.. how bout them fucking COWBOYS

[Chris]

Anyways.. how bout them fucking COWBOYS

How about Sony Vue blocking the game on NFL network and not having NBC/ABC when it matters? Dumping this shit after the next cycle.

[monosylab1k]

Comes off as virtue signaling to me as well. "Look guys - we're casting James Bond as a black male! Aren't we diverse and tolerant?! Give us your money!"

Right, because Bond movies are struggling so badly that they’re forced into doing this. :lmao Holy shit you’re stupid.

[Pavlov]

How about Sony Vue blocking the game on NFL network and not having NBC/ABC when it matters? Dumping this shit after the next cycle.Rabbit ears ftw.

[monosylab1k]

Yes. Why wasn't Denzel cast over Pierce Brosnan in the 90's? Denzel would be a great Bond.

Yeah sure, he would have been great. How is it different than casting Idris Elba now?

[Chris]

Right, because Bond movies are struggling so badly that they’re forced into doing this. :lmao Holy shit you’re stupid.

I wasn't making the argument that Bond movies were struggling at all. You suck at the strawman thingy. Try to keep up please.

[DJR210]

How about Sony Vue blocking the game on NFL network and not having NBC/ABC when it matters? Dumping this shit after the next cycle.

It's not just VUE bro.. Youtube TV too, etc.. It has to do with local restrictions.

[DJR210]

Yeah sure, he would have been great. How is it different than casting Idris Elba now?

Because of today's political climate, vs that of the 90's, 2000's, etc.

[monosylab1k]

I wasn't making the argument that Bond movies were struggling at all. You suck at the strawman thingy. Try to keep up please.

Bond movies don’t need to virtue signal to get attention, you stupid faggot :lmao

[monosylab1k]

Because of today's political climate, vs that of the 90's, 2000's, etc.

Sorry, but that’s fucking retarded. You’re saying they shouldn’t cast the best man for the job in order to not look like they’re virtue signaling?

[Blake]

Yes. Why wasn't Denzel cast over Pierce Brosnan in the 90's? Denzel would be a great Bond.

Denzel would be a terrible Bond, imo. He's an over the top personality. 007 is too stoic.

[DJR210]

Sorry, but that’s fucking retarded. You’re saying they shouldn’t cast the best man for the job in order to not look like they’re virtue signaling?

Your argument is no better. Who are you to say who the best candidate is? Agree to disagree I won't keep going back and forth over it. It's not that serious to me, just my opinion. Full disclosure I've only ever watched half of Goldeneye, strictly because of the video game.


Denzel would be a terrible Bond, imo. He's an over the top personality. 007 is too stoic.

:lol.. I'm picturing the Training Day character basically implanted into the 007 universe

[Chris]

Bond movies don’t need to virtue signal to get attention, you stupid faggot :lmao

lol triggered

[DJR210]

:lol Let's all agree on this.. at least it wasn't The Rock.

[Reck]

It's a good fit. He fits the James Bond mold almost perfectly.

Luther probably had a lot to do with getting him the role. Bonds and Luther aren't entirely all that different.

[monosylab1k]

:cry just make movies with nothing but white guys, or else you’re just virtue signaling :cry

[monosylab1k]

:cry Make Black Panther a white guy or else you’re just virtue signaling :cry

[Pavlov]

Denzel would be a terrible Bond, imo. He's an over the top personality. 007 is too stoic.And I haven't seen a ton of American actors able to pull off being British though some are out there; I am constantly impressed by the British actors playing Americans.

[Spurtacular]

Thinking I'm some Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) or Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) type conservative that would get mad at something like this. :lol

So, this is a liberal/conservative issue? I ain't a big enough James Bond fan to give that much of a care. But I think going from white to black is bad for continuity. If you want to be a pansy and not be "mad" then go ahead, bruh.

[Blake]

lol triggered

Yes Elba getting the part triggered the snowflake in you

[DJR210]

I am constantly impressed by the British actors playing Americans.

Rose Byrne is a great example of this

[Pavlov]

So, this is a liberal/conservative issue? I ain't a big enough James Bond fan to give that much of a care. But I think going from white to black is bad for continuity. If you want to be a pansy and not be "mad" then go ahead, bruh.:lmao "continuity"

We're supposed to believe the same dude has been running around blowing shit up for 56 years?

[baseline bum]

Yes. Why wasn't Denzel cast over Pierce Brosnan in the 90's? Denzel would be a great Bond.

Denzel isn't English like Elba is.

[DJR210]

Denzel isn't English like Elba is.

Had no idea he was Brit tbh.. like I said, great actor

[Pavlov]

Rose Byrne is a great example of thisI didn't even recognize Dan Stevens in Legion as the guy who played the pudgy fop in Downton Abbey.

[Reck]

Rose Byrne is a great example of this

Yeah wtf I thought she was American for the longest time. :lol

Hiding aussie accents has got to be a bitch. They're like the rednecks of the US in terms of accents and deciphering what the shit they're saying.

[monosylab1k]

Denzel isn't English like Elba is.
:cry Gotta make Bond a white American from Nebraska, otherwise it’s virtue signaling :cry

[DJR210]

I didn't even recognize Dan Stevens in Legion as the guy who played the pudgy fop in Downton Abbey.

Had to Google him.. not familiar with either show or any of his films


:cry Gotta make Bond a white American from Nebraska, otherwise it’s virtue signaling :cry

:lol

[Blake]

:lmao "continuity"

We're supposed to believe the same dude has been running around blowing shit up for 56 years?

https://i.gifer.com/q8C.gif

There can be only one

[baseline bum]

Had no idea he was Brit tbh.. like I said, great actor

I couldn't believe the first time I saw him in an interview in his real English voice when he was so convincing as a Baltimore gangster in The Wire. McNulty too, I was shocked the British businessman he played for that whorehouse bust was his real voice.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao "continuity"

We're supposed to believe the same dude has been running around blowing shit up for 56 years?

Yea, genetics and background don't matter. Might as well just make James Bond an sixty-year-old Japanese lady, cos obviously we know it's 'different' Bond, anyhow. Solid logic, sociopath Chump. :tu

[Blake]

Hiding aussie accents has got to be a bitch. They're like the rednecks of the US in terms of accents and deciphering what the shit they're saying.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/adff17f5369daa969281f427709f6291/tenor.gif?itemid=10895163

[baseline bum]

Elba screams the Bond role to me. I think he could be the best since Connery (no one is ever topping him), though I agree with tlongII that Craig is awesome and the best since Connery so far. But Elba could play an awesome hardass like Connery and not a soft ass bitch like Roger Moore.

[Pavlov]

Yea, genetics and background don't matter.Why do they matter so much with the fictional character James Bond that he has to be white after 56 years?

Explain.

Especially the genetics part. The background is "British dude with murky background."

[Blake]

Yea, genetics and background don't matter. Might as well just make James Bond an sixty-year-old Japanese lady, cos obviously we know it's 'different' Bond, anyhow. Solid logic, sociopath Chump. :tu

Oh look who wants to make Bond a tranny

[JakeCuenca]

This is a british role.

That Said, Latinos are probably the third highest demographic in America and they're very hardly placed in lead roles.

Asians are the 4th highest demographic amd they're practiclly nowhere to be seen in TV.

They will employ a latina lead and a and Asian girl lead but never the men.

That said having way too much fun with the angry Whites

[DJR210]

Elba screams the Bond role to me. I think he could be the best since Connery (no one is ever topping him), though I agree with tlongII (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=158) that Craig is awesome and the best since Connery so far. But Elba could play an awesome hardass like Connery and not a soft ass bitch like Roger Moore.

I had a hard time accepting Brosnan after Mrs. Doubtfire hit his bitch ass in the back of the head with a lime

[Chris]

Why can't James Bond be a lesbian Muslim? Fuck it, let's go all in.

[140]

That said having way too much fun with the angry Whites

[JakeCuenca]

When is it the Latins turn to start getting top roles?

Never. Liberals like to keep the ststus quo too

[spurraider21]

there's nothing inherently white about james bond other than the fact that the actors cast for the role have been white. all that really matters there is for the character to be british, since they work for MI6

that would be very different than, say, casting a black guy for a demonstrably white character like atticus finch

[Reck]

Had to Google him.. not familiar with either show or any of his films



:lol

He was the main character in Guest. Good movie tbh. Go rent it at your local katcr.

[Trey Gowdy]

Why can't James Bond be a lesbian Muslim? Fuck it, let's go all in.

:lol and we officially got to the part where Chris goes full "next thing you know they'll want it to be legal to marry dogs!" retard argument.

[spurraider21]

:lol and we officially got to the part where Chris goes full "next thing you know they'll want it to be legal to marry dogs!" retard argument.
why are you forcing bakers to make dildo cakes :madrun

[Spurtacular]

Why do they matter so much with the fictional character James Bond that he has to be white after 56 years?

Explain.

Especially the genetics part. The background is "British dude with murky background."

I get that this sends a thrill up your leg, bruh. I think serious moviegoers want continuity all the same.

[Blake]

Why can't James Bond be a lesbian Muslim? Fuck it, let's go all in.

Look who else wants to make Bond a tranny

[Blake]

I get that this sends a thrill up your leg, bruh. I think serious moviegoers want continuity all the same.

:lol " serious moviegoers"

Whatever that means

[Spurtacular]

Oh look who wants to make Bond a tranny

Reck?

I'm sure a cuck like you is utterly thrilled that Bond is black. You probably believe that's how it should've been in the first place. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lol " serious moviegoers"

Whatever that means

It means consumers give a fuck no matter how much you wish they didn't. Maybe, sociopath chump is 'right' and the new generation won't care so much; but a price was paid with 'Snowflake Wars'.

[Trey Gowdy]

When is it the Latins turn to start getting top roles?Mexican directors have been dominating at the Oscars, Oscar Isaac & Diego Luna are lead characters in Star Wars films, and a Mexican Pixar movie was just made a few months ago. They need more representation but to act like black actors are the ones stealing jobs from other minorities is stupid.

[benefactor]

Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.
:lol...well done

[Reck]

I get that this sends a thrill up your leg, bruh. I think serious moviegoers want continuity all the same.

They do not.

[Blake]

It means consumers give a fuck no matter how much you wish they didn't. Maybe, sociopath chump is 'right' and the new generation won't care so much; but a price was paid with 'Snowflake Wars'.

Yeah you'll disappear from this thread after the Elba Bond movie cashes in.

[DJR210]

He was the main character in Guest. Good movie tbh. Go rent it at your local katcr.

:lol torrenting movies in 2018.. but I'll stream it

[Trey Gowdy]

Look who else wants to make Bond a tranny
:lmao

[Chris]

Reck?

I'm sure a cuck like you is utterly thrilled that Bond is black. You probably believe that's how it should've been in the first place. :lmao

Tranny supervillian in the works :lol

If you've never heard of Martina Markota - you're welcome ; ) she's fine AF


HZB2eoXBIqA

[Spurtacular]

They do not. :cry

Tranny reck presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah you'll disappear from this thread after the Elba Bond movie cashes in.

After just saying that the effect could be negligible? Gawd, you're dumb. Also, I wouldn't care if I did; I'm only here cos some bitter dipshit tagged me.

[Trey Gowdy]

Tranny reck presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

Shit gets rebooted and retconned all the time in movies. If it works then people don't care about continuity. It's pretty simple, Derp.

[Pavlov]

I get that this sends a thrill up your leg, bruh. I think serious moviegoers want continuity all the same.Sorry, you have to explain the issues you brought up. So far your only argument is muh heritage for a guy who isn't from your country.

Why do they matter so much with the fictional character James Bond that he has to be white after 56 years?

Explain.

Especially the genetics part. The background is "British dude with murky background."

[Pavlov]

It means consumers give a fuck no matter how much you wish they didn't. Maybe, sociopath chump is 'right' and the new generation won't care so much; but a price was paid with 'Snowflake Wars'.What price? The new main storyline movies are printing money and any problems with them have to do with plot.

[Reck]

Tranny reck presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

I dont presume. I know it.

You're in the super minority. You're in the Chris category now.

:cry ima boycott disney and netflix. that'll show them! :cry

[Spurtacular]

What price? The new main storyline movies are printing money and any problems with them have to do with plot.

:lmao Sociopath chump wanting to divorce SJW politics from plot.

[Spurtacular]

I dont presume. I know it.

You're in the super minority. You're in the Chris category now.

:cry ima boycott disney and netflix. that'll show them! :cry

You presume. Get over yourself, tranny.

[Blake]

Tranny reck presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

You just tried to speak for all "serious moviegoers".

[Spurminator]

Yeah, sure. :lol

I'm cool with colour blind casting, but you are really naive ir you think this is the case.

Also, when are we having a Latin or Asian lead, or do those ethnicities not have good actors?

I don't see why not. I can't think of any British-Asian or British-Hispanic actors off hand to play the role but I wouldn't have an issue with it if there was one.

What is naive about what I said? What is fundamentally white about the James Bond role?

[Blake]

After just saying that the effect could be negligible? Gawd, you're dumb.

You didn't say that, dummy.

[Reck]

You presume. Get over yourself, tranny.

You thinking this is going a limb. :lol

Is no different than saying No, Netflix is not going to go broke or cease to exist because Chris is all triggered about an upcoming Obama show. It's just common sense.

I know you think it's a big deal but that's only because you lack any sort of intelligence.

[Spurtacular]

You didn't say that, dummy.

Go reread it.

SMH Today's sad fucking cuck.

[Spurtacular]

You thinking this is going a limb. :lol

Is no different than saying No, Netflix is not going to go broke or cease to exist because Chris is all triggered about an upcoming Obama show. It's just common sense.

I know you think it's a big deal but that's only because you lack any sort of intelligence.

You can't rant and rave all you want; it won't change the fact that you presume to speak for all moviegoers.

[Reck]

You can't rant and rave all you want; it won't change the fact that you presume to speak for all moviegoers.

Derp getting nervous. You can always tell because he forgets how to write. :lol

[Blake]

It means consumers [will] give a fuck no matter how much you wish they didn't.


After just saying that the effect could be negligible?

you backed down.

It was the right move for you here.

[Spurtacular]

you backed down.

It was the right move for you here.

And what was the very next sentence, cuckhead?


Maybe, sociopath chump is 'right' and the new generation won't care so much.

[Blake]

Go reread it.

SMH Today's sad fucking cuck.

Just add a "ya", a few sheeshes and some ~~~~ and you will have effectively taken over for the old fat fuck in his absence

[Spurtacular]

Derp getting nervous. You can always tell because he forgets how to write. :lol

There's nothing to "write"; you're an unhinged tranny who presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

:lmao Tranny with a god complex.
:lmao I've seen it all now.

[Spurtacular]

Just add a "ya", a few sheeshes and some ~~~~ and you will have effectively taken over for the old fat fuck in his absence

:lmao Jibberish cos you just realized you're an idiot.

[Blake]

And what was the very next sentence, cuckhead?

Some incoherent rambling about a new generation.

You're an idiot.

[Reck]

There's nothing to "write"; you're an unhinged tranny who presumes to speak for all moviegoers.

:lmao Tranny with a god complex.
:lmao I've seen it all now.

Proceeds to go on a rant. Ok then

[Pavlov]

:lmao Sociopath chump wanting to divorce SJW politics from plot.They are separate things.

If Star Wars is ruined for you because the main hero is female and there are more minorities cast, you're a snowflake. Plain and simple.

[Spurtacular]

They are separate things.

If Star Wars is ruined for you because the main hero is female and there are more minorities cast, you're a snowflake. Plain and simple.

Nope. You're projecting / lashing out.

[Reck]

Nope. You're projecting / lashing out.

Derp stealing more words.

[Spurtacular]

Derp stealing more words.

Who am I stealing from, tranny?

[Chris]

Just add a "ya", a few sheeshes and some ~~~~ and you will have effectively taken over for the old fat fuck in his absence

Blake misses his boyfriend Avante :lol

[Pavlov]

Nope. You're projecting / lashing out.Nope, you're really a snowflake.

You're upset the heroes are girls and a black dude.

lol

[Chris]

Who am I stealing from, tranny?

Sigmund Freud :lol

[Spurtacular]

Sigmund Freud :lol

:lol

[Spurtacular]

Nope, you're really a snowflake.

You're upset the heroes are girls and a black dude.

lol

:lmao Sociopath chump doubling down on projecting.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Sociopath chump doubling down on projecting.lol derp can't even deny it.

[Spurtacular]

lol derp can't even deny it.

It's not incumbent on me to deny your projections.

[Blake]

Nope. You're projecting / lashing out.

Derp speaking for all dictionaries

[Blake]

Blake misses his boyfriend Avante :lol

Nobody misses threads getting ruined

[Chris]

Nobody misses threads getting ruined

True.

[DJR210]

Sigmund Freud :lol

aka Fapps

[SpursforSix]

A crooning black dude with a glass eye that fires lasers out of it would automatically become the greatest Bond villain EVER.

That’s actually not bad.

[SpursforSix]

Ibf

Bend over, I’ll fucking show you a usage foul.


Bend over, I'll show you a usage foul.

Wtf is wrong with you

[phxspurfan]

And Asians?

who?



:lol

[phxspurfan]

Why can't James Bond be a lesbian Muslim? Fuck it, let's go all in.

all in would be a tranny

[chunticakes]

Why can't James Bond be a lesbian Muslim? Fuck it, let's go all in.

Bend over, I'll show ya fuckin all in.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over, I'll show ya fuckin all in.

I’ll fuckin show you all in.

[cd021]

If a new Shaft movie came out with the lead cast as a white male, you would see the standards flip.
Don't think you understand blaxploitation at all, not surprising coming from you tbh

[Spurminator]

:cry Why can we have blaxploitation but no whitesploitation? :cry

[DMC]

I don't see a problem with it. Idris Elba would be a fine Bond. There are several who could pull it off.

[chunticakes]

I’ll fuckin show you all in.

Bahhh I used the passive voice.

[AaronY]

IMO, same way as radically changing the Ghostbusters was forced. Same way as creating a movie for Black Panther (one of the shittiest least popular characters growing up) was forced, at the height of the BLM movement.
Its forced to have a black superhero?

[DJR210]

Its forced to have a black superhero?

Continue reading the thread to have all your questions answered.

[AaronY]

Continue reading the thread to have all your questions answered.
Watch the fucking movie to realize why it was 99% on rotten tomatoes and a universally beloved record setting blockbuster

[AaronY]

Even that Ben Shapiro guy stop whining about it after he saw it. You maybe the last person on Earth crying about it lol

[DJR210]

Watch the fucking movie to realize why it was 99% on rotten tomatoes and a universally beloved record setting blockbuster

No thanks, the first 20 minutes was all it took. Also, it may be hard to fathom, but even popular opinions will have people who don't agree.

[spurraider21]

im not racist, but that movie i've never seen sucks for sure because it features black people

[Xevious]

And I remember people getting pissed that Craig was cast because he doesn't have dark hair...

[SpursforSix]

im not racist, but that movie i've never seen sucks for sure because it features black people

Bend over, I’ll fuckin show you black people.

[resistanze]

Man, that's a lot of pages discussing the race of an actor, in our post-racial world.

[Chris]

Man, this site must be full of racists in a post-racial world. Only explanation for a thread having so many pages. 7 is an exorbitant number.

[Reck]

Man, this site must be full of racists in a post-racial world. Only explanation for a thread having so many pages. 7 is an exorbitant number.

You should know, you're a top contributor to this thread.

[Chris]

You should know, you're a top contributor to this thread.

More like the sane parent talking down to the children. When are you going to grow up?

[Pavlov]

More like the sane parent talking down to the children. When are you going to grow up?Yeah, sane parents would make a white Shaft example.

:lol bitter white Chris

[Chris]

Yeah, sane parents would make a white Shaft example.

:lol bitter white Chris

White Shaft would trigger half the country. Just showing you your blatant hypocrisy and typical double standards.

[Pavlov]

White Shaft would trigger half the country. Just showing you your blatant hypocrisy and typical double standards.What about James Bond today requires him to be white, Chris?

[Chris]

What about James Bond today requires him to be white, Chris?

What about James Bond today requires him to be black, Pavlov?

[Kori Ellis]

He's one of the most popular British actors these days, and he's great. So I don't get the issue. None of the Bonds resemble each other that much.

[Chris]

It's forced cultural appropriation. That's mainly the issue with most people, and there's also a familiarity with the character. IMO

[monosylab1k]

:lmao Kori shitting all over Chris

[monosylab1k]

cultural appropriation :lmao

[Spurminator]

What about James Bond today requires him to be black, Pavlov?

Nothing, dumbass, no one is saying he's required to be black. You're terrible at this.

[SpursforSix]

He's one of the most popular British actors these days, and he's great. So I don't get the issue. None of the Bonds resemble each other that much.

Well...they do all have one common characteristic.

But I digress. He’s great in Luther. He’ll be a good Bond.

[Spurminator]

Chris doesn't have the balls to post it but this is basically the take he's parroting.

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[DAF86]

I don't see why not. I can't think of any British-Asian or British-Hispanic actors off hand to play the role but I wouldn't have an issue with it if there was one.

What is naive about what I said? What is fundamentally white about the James Bond role?

Nothing, but it is naive to think that the casting crew just went: "heck, let's just cast the best guy available regardless of colour". They knew they were going for a black guy since the get go.

[Kori Ellis]

It's forced cultural appropriation. That's mainly the issue with most people, and there's also a familiarity with the character. IMO

So familiarity with the character is all about white skin? When you watch TV or movies, you can't tell the difference between all the white people?

[Thanos]

Nothing. What is naive is to think that the casting crew just went: "heck, let's just cast the best guy available regardless of colour".

They knew they were going for a balck guy since the get go.
They were debating between Idris Elba and like 4 other white guys. If they were dead set on a black guy then Chiwetel Ejiofor and a few other Brtitish black dudes would have been in the conversation.

They picked Elba because he’s the best option out there.

[Kori Ellis]

I know there's a lot of stuff that happens in the name of "social justice" these days, but this isn't one of them. They considered a bunch of British actors and reportedly picked Idris Elba. They didn't consider a bunch of minorities only, just to make sure to give a minority the role.

[DAF86]

They were debating between Idris Elba and like 4 other white guys. If they were dwad set on a black guy then Chiwetel Ejiofor and a few other Brtitish black dudes would have been in the conversation.

Again: "Yeah, sure" :lol

Folks knew they were going for a black guy, just like the Ghostbusters' guys knew they were going for girls. Specially after the box office success that black panther was. Hollywood is a copycat industry, tbh.

[Thanos]

Again: "Yeah, sure" :lol

Folks knew they were going for a black guy, just like the Ghostbusters' guys knew they were going for girls. Specially after the box office success that black panther was. Hollywood is a copycat industry, tbh.

No, you’re so right, the failing James Bond franchise needs to pander to black people to sell tickets :lmao

[DAF86]

No, you’re so right, the failing James Bond franchise needs to pander to black people to sell tickets :lmao

Maybe they thought it would help box office wise, maybe they thought they would get "friendlier" critics, maybe they just thought it was something that it needed to be done to send a message of equality and diversity. Whatever the reason, I'm convinced this wasn't a matter of just colour blind casting. They are clearly trying to send a message.

[SpursforSix]

Some of y’all acting like they cast Tyler Perry.

[SpursforSix]

Or Kevin Hart maybe.

[Chris]

So familiarity with the character is all about white skin?

I suppose in this instance this would be a reverse Michael Jackson. I doubt there will be a story arch for the obvious plot hole considering James Bond's sudden change of skin color. I look for consistency as do most fans. This is why it is forced.


When you watch TV or movies, you can't tell the difference between all the white people?

This is hyperbole.

[Thanos]

Maybe they thought it would help box office wise, maybe they thought they would get "friendlier" critics, maybe they just thought it was something that it needed to be done to send a message of equality and diversity. Whatever the reason, I'm convinced this wasn't a matter of just colour blind casting. They are clearly trying to send a message.
No, you’re so right, the critically panned, box office bomb franchise known as James Bond has to pander to black people to survive :lmao

[resistanze]

Nothing, but it is naive to think that the casting crew just went: "heck, let's just cast the best guy available regardless of colour". They knew they were going for a black guy since the get go.

And what do you think kept James Bond's casting a white man for 50 years? Chance? :lol

[Xevious]

I suppose in this instance this would be a reverse Michael Jackson. I doubt there will be a story arch for the obvious plot hole considering James Bond's sudden change of skin color. I look for consistency as do most fans. This is why it is forced.
Plot hole. :lol

One Bond has absolutely nothing to do with the next.

[Incel]

I suppose in this instance this would be a reverse Michael Jackson. I doubt there will be a story arch for the obvious plot hole considering James Bond's sudden change of skin color. I look for consistency as do most fans. This is why it is forced.



This is hyperbole.
:tu

[Reck]

Chris, you lost this on page one.

Skin has none to do with it. There is not going to be an explanation about why this Bond is black because these movies aren't about cultural appropriation bullshit.

Or you know, they can always go with the Bonds just likes tanning a lot excuse---you know if they really cared.

But I still laugh that you and derp are somehow raging over what a british fictional character should look like. It's not even your fight. :lol

[Pavlov]

What about James Bond today requires him to be black, Pavlov?
Nothing requires him to be any race in particular, just plausibly British. Idris is very British.

You're the one saying he has to be white. Explain yourself for once.

[Pavlov]

I suppose in this instance this would be a reverse Michael Jackson. I doubt there will be a story arch for the obvious plot hole considering James Bond's sudden change of skin color. I look for consistency as do most fans. This is why it is forced.



This is hyperbole.:lmao Chris thinks the same white guy has been running around blowing up shit for 55 years.

[DAF86]

And what do you think kept James Bond's casting a white man for 50 years? Chance? :lol

The guy that created the James Bond character thought of him white, so they casted him that way and then they just kept tradition. Same shit with Batman, Superman, Spiderman and almost any other fictional hero you can think of. What is fundamentally white about any of those characters? Nothing. It's just a tradition now.

Now, the reason behind those characters being white can vary among racism, pandering to a wider audience, the guys creating them also being white, etc. But it is what it is.

I'm not racist. Heck, I don't even know what race I am, but if I see a non-white Batman someday, it might be a little off putting. Not because I'm a white supremacist or some shit like that, but just because when I think of Batman, I think of him on a specific way. It would be the same as seeing a Superman with a moustache, or an old Spiderman, or a white Black Panther, or the last young long haired Lex Luthor we had on the last Batman v. Superman movie.

[Pavlov]

Don't tell this guy about Miles Morales.

[DAF86]

Don't tell this guy about Miles Morales.

I know about that, I'm not much of a comic books nerd so I don't pay much attention to it. Also, I don't care. If other people enjoy it, then good for them. To me Spiderman is Peter Parker though.

[resistanze]

The guy that created the James Bond character thought of him white, so they casted him that way and then they just kept tradition. Same shit with Batman, Superman, Spiderman and almost any other fictional hero you can think of. What is fundamentally white about any of those characters? Nothing. It's just a tradition now.

Now, the reason behind those characters being white can vary among racism, pandering to a wider audience, the guys creating them also being white, etc. But it is what it is.

I'm not racist. Heck, I don't even know what race I am, but if I see a non-white Batman someday, it might be a little off putting. Not because I'm a white supremacist or some shit like that, but just because when I think of Batman, I think of him on a specific way. It would be the same as seeing as Superman with a moustache, or an old Spiderman, or a white Black Panther, or the last young long haired Lex Luthor we had on the last Batman v. Superman movie.

Being white wasn't the only description of Bond as a character (or for any person for that matter). The guy who created Bond also envisioned Bond as an Englishman with black hair and a scar on his cheek. Yet, Bond has been played by Irishmen, Scotsmen, Welshmen who are sometimes blonde. Why is skin color the only variable worth highlighting? Or is it that all white people can't be told apart tbh? I don't get the argument here.

[DAF86]

Being white wasn't the only description of Bond as a character (or for any person for that matter). The guy who created Bond also envisioned Bond as an Englishman with black hair and a scar on his cheek. Yet, Bond has been played by Irishmen, Scotsmen, Welshmen who are sometimes blonde. Why is skin color the only variable worth highlighting? Or is it that all white people can't be told apart tbh? I don't get the argument here.

I don't know what the James Bond character was suppossed to look like, I have never seen a James Bond movie. I'm just saying that when you are used to thinking of a character on a specific way you may feel inclined on wanting to see the character resembling that image.

I'm Latin but I prefer my Spiderman to be called Peter Parker, not Miles Morales. It's a nostalgia thing.

I do like to see that the Hollywood white male bias is being adressed (although, like I said, for now is only with women and blackmen), but I think that, instead of transforming old characters, it would be better to come up with new characters and stories.

[Pavlov]

I don't know what the James Bond character was suppossed to look like, I have never seen a James Bond movie. I'm just saying that when you are used to thinking of a character on a specific way you may feel inclined on wanting to see the character resembling that image.If you're going to be a strict originalist, James Bond will have to be not only white, but also so hilariously racist, sexist and homophobic that it was probably considered banal even when the books were first published. Characters change over time and over media. Bond movies still have appeal because the character has changed a shit ton over the past five decades.

Bond started out as a reflection of British imperialism; it could be pretty interesting to flip the script to have a new Bond's being a product of colonialism. Maybe it would be more demographically accurate for the guy to be of south Asian heritage, but Elba in particular has the kind of background that could almost be applied to a new Bond wholesale -- a London-born son of parents from Ghana and Sierra Leone.

Or the new Bond could be another white guy. All he really has to be is British. The more these things change, the less of a big deal it will be in the future.

[Chris]

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[Trill Clinton]

Man, that's a lot of pages discussing the race of an actor, in our post-racial world.

Spurstalk.com

[Trill Clinton]

:tu

Omg lol

[Blake]

1028909633589653505

She's not from Africa. That faux fake news fails.

[Spurminator]

Nothing, but it is naive to think that the casting crew just went: "heck, let's just cast the best guy available regardless of colour". They knew they were going for a black guy since the get go.

You don't know that. What other black guys did they consider?

Maybe they knew they were going for Idris Elba from the get-go. The rumors have been around for years.

[SpursforSix]

but I think that, instead of transforming old characters, it would be better to come up with new characters and stories.

That didn't really work

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[FrostKing]

James Bond franchise would not survive such a stunt

[Trill Clinton]

James Bond franchise would not survive such a stunt
Lmaoooooo

[FrostKing]

Lmaoooooo
On a serious note, it's a catch 22


Project black men in a negative light: alcoholic womanizer
or
Change Bond's behavior and piss off the fans

[Trey Gowdy]

On a serious note, it's a catch 22


Project black men in a negative light: alcoholic womanizer
or
Change Bond's behavior and piss off the fans
Sup infinite limit

[FrostKing]

Sup infinite limit
I finally returned. I notice changes here and mostly positive

[Othyus Lalanne]

Mi 6 is straight up evil. I would watch Idis Elba agent of Botswana fuck some KGB and CIA agents up. That woudl be fun.

[lefty20]

This is nbd as Idris would kill it as Bond. True tragedy hollywood caving in and casting a bitch in this role. Don't even know how these hoes even justify asking for that BS. It'd make as much sense as casting a dude in the role of a disney princess.

[lefty]

Cool. Keep the love interest white tho.

:lol

[lefty]

Don't tell this guy about Miles Morales.

The quota Spidey?

No big deal tbh

There's even an Arab Batman :lol
(True story)

[FrostKing]

A black secret agent

Whats he gonna infiltrate? The NWA

[SpursforSix]

A black secret agent

Whats he gonna infiltrate?

Your mom's butt

[CitizenDwayne]

I don’t really care (who the hell cares about 007 in 2018), but casting him would just be a publicity stunt. In no way does he fit the mental image one gets when thinking of James Bond. The producers don’t deserve praise for being “progressive” or anything - they’re trying to inject life into a dead/dying franchise by stunt casting.

btw Ian Fleming was quite the racist (ex: Live and Let Die). Not sure if that’s been mentioned

[Pavlov]

lol the last movie grossed $880,000,000! The franchise is dead!

[FrostKing]

As a straight white male that doesn't dress up in super hero costumes; the Bond series is a must see. I've gone to the theater for everyone since Goldeneye

[CitizenDwayne]

Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?

[Blake]

Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?

You mean a black approach? What does that even mean?

[Pavlov]

Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?:lmao "cultural relevance"

It's James Bond, dude. It has always been a reflection of the culture, not a trendsetter. The only reason it has made money for half a century is because it does so. A Black bond will not be groundbreaking, just noteworthy because it hasn't been done yet.

I love how the racial purists are trying to dance around the single point that they want Bond to stay white just because.

[CitizenDwayne]

:lmao "cultural relevance"

It's James Bond, dude. It has always been a reflection of the culture, not a trendsetter. The only reason it has made money for half a century is because it does so. A Black bond will not be groundbreaking, just noteworthy because it hasn't been done yet.

I love how the racial purists are trying to dance around the single point that they want Bond to stay white just because.
Not really. I’m sure I’d still watch it, just think it’s an attention-grab of a casting choice, that’s all.

Just as I can’t picture an American bond, I can’t really picture a black bond. Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice. But hey I’m sure they’ll cast him and get praised for their bravery, so what I think doesn’t really matter

[FrostKing]

Makes a lot of money but it’s cultural relevance is the lowest it’s been since the Timothy Dalton era. They clearly have no idea where to take things after Craig, so they’re thinking of taking things in a more...dare I say...colorful approach?
I think that is more a reflection on Western society - prefer to wear costumes and dream of "super powers".

Bond just isn't going to attract the modern woman either. The series is exclusively thru the perspective of an alcoholic womanizer.

As a fan, I rather them put the series on the shell or even cancel it than attempt to modernize him.

I just googled "similiar films to Bond" and half those listed were filmed in the 90s. The success and failure of Kingsman illustrates this. They only made it 2 films in and now searching for new leads.

Tough film genre. I still think the formula should remain - exotic international spots, alcohol/womanizing and high tech weaponry

[Blake]

Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice.

Yep that was the only reason they cast him.

[Blake]

Plus black

[Pavlov]

:cryMake him a 1950s white, racist, imperialist, misogynist pig or cancel the franchise!:cry

[spurraider21]

Not really. I’m sure I’d still watch it, just think it’s an attention-grab of a casting choice, that’s all.

Just as I can’t picture an American bond, I can’t really picture a black bond. Just because he’s a British guy who occasionally wears a tux does not make him an ideal casting choice. But hey I’m sure they’ll cast him and get praised for their bravery, so what I think doesn’t really matter
being british is kind of instrumental for a role when the character is an agent for MI6

white/black doesn't have any relevance tbh