Lamar Jackson best chance for QB to break rushing record -Vick.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Ya I'm sure Joe Montana would take this Ravens roster to a Bowl win.
No one said he would, I’m talking just a playoff win. Btw, this is the same roster that had the Bengals on the ropes in Cincy if not for a fluke turnover at the end. They probably win if he plays but he couldn’t bother being there for his teammates because “muh contract”

and before you spout some bullshit injury excuse, he was questionable for just about every game the previous month leading up to kickoff, holding the team hostage as a negotiating tactic.

Joe Montana would’ve played. Even Huntley was injured going into the game and he showed up. People will always make excuses for players like this

[FrostKing]

I think Lamar's being pressured by fellow black players. He's fighting something now. A meaning.

Hire an agent. Get off social media. Do a scripted interview.

[FrostKing]

Maybe both parties honestly want a separation before big money commitment

Lamar can go to a theoretical Cardinals and offensively showcase. Seems that is currently more important to him than Winning.

And that's understandable. Baltimore is unattractive for athlete and the franchise remains Defensive focused.

[MultiTroll]

No one said he would, I’m talking just a playoff win. Btw, this is the same roster that had the Bengals on the ropes in Cincy if not for a fluke turnover at the end. They probably win if he plays but he couldn’t bother being there for his teammates because “muh contract”

and before you spout some bullshit injury excuse, he was questionable for just about every game the previous month leading up to kickoff, holding the team hostage as a negotiating tactic.

Joe Montana would’ve played. Even Huntley was injured going into the game and he showed up. People will always make excuses for players like this
Good little owners suck up.

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Lamar Jackson trade: Tyrann Mathieu defends Ravens' QB amid injury concern (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-lamar-jackson-trade-tyrann-mathieu-ravens-qb-injury)

:lol Maybe Lamar would have played if he had the 49 receivers and roster.

Two decades later, Joe Montana is still dealing with painful injuries - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/two-decades-later-joe-montana-is-still-dealing-with-painful-injuries/)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Good little owners suck up.

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Lamar Jackson trade: Tyrann Mathieu defends Ravens' QB amid injury concern (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-lamar-jackson-trade-tyrann-mathieu-ravens-qb-injury)

:lol Maybe Lamar would have played if he had the 49 receivers and roster.

Two decades later, Joe Montana is still dealing with painful injuries - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/two-decades-later-joe-montana-is-still-dealing-with-painful-injuries/)
Lamar has missed 11 games the past 2 seasons at the most critical time, and held the team hostage last year for selfish reasons. Since his MVP season, in what direction would you say his career is trending, be it measured in individual stats or team success?

Is he injury prone or selfish, Fabbs? It can’t be neither…and regardless of the answer, you don’t give players like that fully guaranteed contracts unless you are the Drowns.

[MultiTroll]

‹In Sunday's 49-13 rout of the winless Cincinnati Bengals, Jackson became the second player in NFL history to produce a perfect passer rating (158.3) in multiple games in a single season. The only other player to do so was Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who had two in 2007.




you don’t give players like that fully guaranteed contracts unless you are the Drowns.
Good little owners suck up.
Jackson never asked for fully guaranteed. That was rumor floated by colluding owners after the Drowns disaster.

[MultiTroll]

Nicely done:

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Lamar has missed 11 games the past 2 seasons at the most critical time, and held the team hostage last year for selfish reasons. Since his MVP season, in what direction would you say his career is trending, be it measured in individual stats or team success?
Sure Ralphie,
Mahomes, Joe Montana, Elway, Rothy, Marino etc would have done a whole lot better with this Ravens roster and playcalling the last 2 seasons.

Young: Lamar Jackson Can Be ‘Greatest Player in the History of the Game’ - Sports Illustrated (https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/08/19/steve-young-lamar-jackson-can-be-greatest-player-in-history-of-game-ravens-criticism-held-back)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Ok so you’re just going to blame everybody else for his shortcomings and playoff failures, right? If that’s your hill you wanna die on so be it. No sense arguing further with a fanboy

All throughout the year you cried and blamed the refs or his receivers. Despite being good enough to dominate the league in 2019 and go 14-2 he was embarrassing in the playoffs against 9-7 Tennessee, but that must be the teammates. Since then he’s injury prone and now a diva.

You can bump this thread when he’s on his new team and make some predictions. We all know what will happen from you though: new team, new excuses

[FrostKing]

Good little owners suck up.

1641071375178661888

Lamar Jackson trade: Tyrann Mathieu defends Ravens' QB amid injury concern (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-lamar-jackson-trade-tyrann-mathieu-ravens-qb-injury)

:lol Maybe Lamar would have played if he had the 49 receivers and roster.

Two decades later, Joe Montana is still dealing with painful injuries - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/two-decades-later-joe-montana-is-still-dealing-with-painful-injuries/)
Exactly. Lamar is being pressured now. I think his legacy is changing the position / more so than being the biggest winner.

He should leave Baltimore & I think they want him to.

[MultiTroll]

Exactly. Lamar is being pressured now. I think his legacy is changing the position / more so than being the biggest winner.

He should leave Baltimore & I think they want him to.
Baltimores record his entire career without LJ is pathetic.
They definitely want him to stay.

Any trade timeline would most likely be after the draft.

I think LJ would have to play all of this year and 2024 as a Raven to become an Unrestricted FA.
Still wish 49ers would get him but no way are Ravens accepting their injured QBs in a trade return.

[SpursforSix]

Baltimores record his entire career without LJ is pathetic.
They definitely want him to stay.

Any trade timeline would most likely be after the draft.

I think LJ would have to play all of this year and 2024 as a Raven to become an Unrestricted FA.
Still wish 49ers would get him but no way are Ravens accepting their injured QBs in a trade return.

Why would SF want to pay for LJ? Shanahan has been great at creating offenses with a game managing QB. I can't imagine them wanting to put down that kind of money for Lamar.

[MultiTroll]

Why would SF want to pay for LJ? Shanahan has been great at creating offenseLs with a game managing QB. I can't imagine them wanting to put down that kind of money for Lamar.
Ya LJs potential salary, for that matter all NFL highly paid QBs...

Well here check it out. Virtually all of them do not lead to a Bowl or even playoff success.

[MultiTroll]

Rank
Player
AAV


1
Aaron Rodgers
$50.3 million


2
Russell Wilson
$49 million


3
Kyler Murray
$46.1 million


4
Deshaun Watson
$46 million


5
Patrick Mahomes
$45 million


6
Josh Allen
$43 million


7
Derek Carr
$40.5 million


T-8
Dak Prescott
$40 milllion


T-8
Matthew Stafford
$40 million


10
Kirk Cousins
$35 million

[leemajors]

Why would SF want to pay for LJ? Shanahan has been great at creating offenses with a game managing QB. I can't imagine them wanting to put down that kind of money for Lamar.

They couldn't afford it obv, but that team would be scary. Also happy NYG paid for Jones and not Lamar

[SpursforSix]

They couldn't afford it obv, but that team would be scary. Also happy NYG paid for Jones and not Lamar

IDK. They pay Lamar and presumably Barkley. I don't know how they could afford getting him better WRs.

[leemajors]

IDK. They pay Lamar and presumably Barkley. I don't know how they could afford getting him better WRs.

I think he is far better than Jones either way

[spurraider21]

saying "he doenst want fully guaranteed" but that rather he wants "more guaranteed than watson" is pretty funny tbh :lol

im still astonished that there isnt a single team thinking "hmm let me get an mvp caliber player at age 26" though. thats pretty insane

[SpursforSix]

I think he is far better than Jones either way

Yeah but for Jackson money, I think they'd be screwed in getting him great weapons.

[MultiTroll]

saying "he doenst want fully guaranteed" but that rather he wants "more guaranteed than watson" is pretty funny tbh :lol
Funny in the sense that Jackson never said such.

If otherwise then post.

[MultiTroll]

Yeah but for Jackson money, I think they'd be screwed in getting him great weapons.Which team with a top salary QB has not been screwed by the QBs salary.

Chiefs?
Bills?

Their core kinda sorta grew up with Mahomes and Josh Allen.

[spurraider21]

Funny in the sense that Jackson never said such.

If otherwise then post.
lol lamar is never going to admit any of this publicly

baltimore doesnt have a track record of short changing qbs. they made flacco the highest paid qb in the NFL :lol. they're not dumb. they understand they have no alternative at qb. they understand what the market is. they saw what daniel jones just got. i just dont think they're accepting the deshaun watson paradigm

[MultiTroll]

lol lamar is never going to admit any of this publicly
Therefore Jackson must have said it.

Fabbs "Move to strike your honor."
Judge shaking his head "It's stuck. spurraider21 final warning, stop making stuff up."

Oh and you think the owners are going to reveal what they really say? :rollin

[MultiTroll]

And to be clear i would think the Browns owner is now the turd in the punchbowl amongst the other owners.

You set precedence of top QBs getting fully guaranteed......Hell no i would not give Lamar Jackson fully guaranteed.

I'm aghast at these QBs getting 50%+ guaranteed. Freaking hundrew million bucks is insane.

[spurraider21]

And to be clear i would think the Browns owner is now the turd in the punchbowl amongst the other owners.

You set precedence of top QBs getting fully guaranteed......Hell no i would not give Lamar Jackson fully guaranteed.

I'm aghast at these QBs getting 50%+ guaranteed. Freaking hundrew million bucks is insane.
he absolutely is, and it has been reported ad nauseum that other owners were dogpiling on him at previous owners meetings

[Will Hunting]

It's not even a question that Jackson's best years (:lol or the one fluke MVP year he had before teams had enough game film on him to be specific) are behind him.

Not at all surprised that a gimmicky injury prone QB who's already on the decline & has been complete ass in the playoffs every time he's gone isn't getting the guaranteed money he wants.

[FrostKing]

People are now underplaying him

Lamar really blew it with the No agent. I saw recent Bauer video arriving in Japan & he was smart enough to have a female representative.

[FrostKing]

It's not even a question that Jackson's best years (:lol or the one fluke MVP year he had before teams had enough game film on him to be specific) are behind him.

Not at all surprised that a gimmicky injury prone QB who's already on the decline & has been complete ass in the playoffs every time he's gone isn't getting the guaranteed money he wants.
Patriots need his ass. Perfect match.

Assuming Ravens are OK with Mac Jones. Otherwise gets complicated.
This is Bill's last hurrah. Lamar Jackson
I would trade Mac and two picks within the 3rd Round.

[Will Hunting]

Neither Mac Jones nor Lamar Jackson are ever winning a superbowl as an elite starting QB.

[MultiTroll]

Neither Mac Jones nor Lamar Jackson are ever winning a superbowl as an elite starting QB.
:lol

Bookmarked for your future crow serving.

Nicely done:

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[spurraider21]

It's not even a question that Jackson's best years (:lol or the one fluke MVP year he had before teams had enough game film on him to be specific) are behind him.

Not at all surprised that a gimmicky injury prone QB who's already on the decline & has been complete ass in the playoffs every time he's gone isn't getting the guaranteed money he wants.
its really just been the injuries with him imo

yeah, his passing TD numbers from his MVP season were an outlier. 36 TDs while only having 3100 yards screams outlier. but he's consistently been a good generator of offense on a team that sorely lacks investment in other offensive skill positions. yes, thy drafted JK Dobbins, but he's been hurt more often than not. their only investment in WR was hollywood, who was ok, but then also got hurt and then traded.

2019 will probably not be repeatable but they were the #1 scoring offense in the league that year. but then they were #9 in 2020 as well when he was healthy. their scoring output with huntley has been noticeably worse. averaged less than 12ppg in huntley's starts last year

[MultiTroll]

Countdown to Odell Beckham getting injured........

[MultiTroll]

Jalen Hurts 5 / 255 with 179 guaranteed isn't going to help the Ravens at all. :lol

I don't see LJackson coming down much if at all from whatever amount he wanted.

[MultiTroll]

Same subpar team around him.

He'll drag them to 10+ wins and the playoffs. Don't expect more.

You Mahomes/Brady slurpers and Jackson Haters will keep up your schpeels.

[spurraider21]

flowers is a nice weapon for them. they paid OBJ a lot of money, but im not sure he has the goods anymore. if he's even as good as he was for the rams, its the best cast lamar will have ever had

[FrostKing]

Same subpar team around him.

He'll drag them to 10+ wins and the playoffs. Don't expect more.

You Mahomes/Brady slurpers and Jackson Haters will keep up your schpeels.
Meanwhile Mahomes gets a 2nd Round WR toy for a consecutive season.

[Blake]

Same subpar team around him.

He'll drag them to 10+ wins and the playoffs. Don't expect more.

You Mahomes/Brady slurpers and Jackson Haters will keep up your schpeels.

C'mon now, Pat dragged them to the super bowl on a bum ankle without Hill.

[MultiTroll]

C'mon now, Pat dragged them to the super bowl on a bum ankle without Hill.
Yes not having Hill just completely evens out the Chiefs - Ravens offense.

[Blake]

Yes not having Hill just completely evens out the Chiefs - Ravens offense.

That's way different than being a "mahomes slurper"

[MultiTroll]

That's way different than being a "mahomes slurper"
The difference between what Jackson has had to work with vs Mahomes is night and day.

Merely one aspect, and yes it continued into 2023
Former Ravens criticize departed strength coach, Rashod Bateman fires back at Eric DeCosta - The Baltimore Banner (https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-strength-coach-steve-saunders-criticism-matthew-judon-derek-wolfe-rashod-batement-eric-decosta-PE2HRMM3TNFXTEEKJDG2DHR5KY/)

Their comments on social media came in the wake of an NFL Players Association survey of players (https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards), released Wednesday, that gave the Ravens’ strength staff an F-minus grade. Only one other team, the Atlanta Falcons, received a grade worse than a B.

More Ravens injuries occur in Monday’s practice, including WR Sammy Watkins - Baltimore Beatdown (https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2021/8/16/22627280/more-ravens-injuries-occur-in-mondays-practice-including-wr-sammy-watkins)

[Blake]

Well, Lamar had his chance to get out and wanted to stay.

[MultiTroll]

Well, Lamar had his chance to get out and wanted to stay.
Sure.
Let us know what the other owners offered him.

[Blake]

Sure.
Let us know what the other owners offered him.

Poor Lamar. Keep slurping.

[MultiTroll]

Your fold is accepted.

[Blake]

Yeah I just don't care enough to feel sorry for poor Lamar. You can keep my ante

[MultiTroll]

^ Is this a Kareywhat style post?

[Blake]

^ Is this a Kareywhat style post?

No, it means I'll take your word for it

[MultiTroll]

No, it means I'll take your word for it
Solid choice.

I will continue to provide reliable, accurate, intelligent info and what is truly going on with Jackson and the Ravens.

[Blake]

Solid choice.

I will continue to provide reliable, accurate, intelligent info and what is truly going on with Jackson and the Ravens.

Eh maybe maybe not. I'm not gonna raise to find out since I really don't care about Lamar's success or failure. I think winners still figure out a way to win when it really counts and not blame the team management for everything.

[MultiTroll]

Barry Sanders, Ken Griffey Jr, Chuck Barkley, Ted Williams.

Are you telling me these guys can't ball?

[Blake]

Barry Sanders, Ken Griffey Jr, Chuck Barkley, Ted Williams.

Are you telling me these guys can't ball?

Funny I recall Sanders having one particular playoff game with 15 carries for 10 yards or something like that without looking it up.

I did look this up:

"Jackson has a 1-3 career playoff record with four total touchdowns and seven turnovers. His passer rating in the playoffs (68.3) is 28.4 points lower than his regular season average, the fifth-largest dropoff in NFL history. "

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/as-lamar-jackson-seeks-trade-a-look-at-why-the-ravens-have-only-one-playoff-win-in-star-qbs-first-5-seasons/

Is that all Jackson's fault? Of course not and the article gives some reasons why, including bad front office moves. But you can't not blame Jackson at all either.

[Blake]

Baseball is a way different animal. It's literally impossible for one guy to put a team on his back and win a title

[MultiTroll]

Is that all Jackson's fault? Of course not and the article gives some reasons why, including bad front office moves.
Exactly. All of the all time greats given Baltimores exact same roster and situation don't do any better.
Maybe some of them would figure out a way to get more playoff wins, but i doubt it.

That having been said yes i remember some real eggs Jackson threw. Especially vs (i think Pittsburg).
Can we talk about the strength and medical team that was rated F-.

[MultiTroll]

"Jackson has a 1-3 career playoff record.."
NFL Playoffs: Chargers knew '60 to 70 percent' of Ravens offensive plays before they happened - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-chargers-knew-60-to-70-percent-of-ravens-offensive-plays-before-they-happened/)

Of course Mahomes and other QBs would have overcome that.

[Blake]

Exactly. All of the all time greats given Baltimores exact same roster and situation don't do any better.
Maybe some of them would figure out a way to get more playoff wins, but i doubt it.

I think any number of HOFers do better

[MultiTroll]

Ancient injured Odell Beckham and Nelson Agholor. Media is acting like Jackson now has some kind of super stacked WR core to work with. :lmao

But but but the Ravens also took a WR in the 1st Round. (Hey they did that two years ago too.)

None of them over 5' 10" :(

[spurraider21]

rashod bateman was the other first round pick you mentioned and he's 6'1 200

hes been hurt both seasons so far

[Blake]

Ancient injured Odell Beckham and Nelson Agholor. Media is acting like Jackson now has some kind of super stacked WR core to work with. :lmao

But but but the Ravens also took a WR in the 1st Round. (Hey they did that two years ago too.)

None of them over 5' 10" :(

Well at least you have your built in excuse ready to go when Lamar exits the first round again

[MultiTroll]

Well at least you have your built in excuse ready to go when Lamar exits the first round again

Well at least you have your built in excuse ready to go when Lamar exits the first round again.

[MultiTroll]

rashod bateman was the other first round pick you mentioned and he's 6'1 200

hes been hurt both seasons so far
So he's really helped Jackson when he's been out how many games?

See strength and conditioning post.
But of course Jackson was supposed to have overcome that, right?

[MultiTroll]

rashod bateman was the other first round pick you mentioned
Glad you mentioned Bateman. Here he specifically speaks to the points you Jackson haters have been making all thread long. Addressing GM DeCosta:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/57d_k4ZHUx4zJcz9ZdO4ht2BMVI=/0x0:720x656/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:720x656):format(webp):no_upscale ()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24473901/img_2336_720.jpg

[spurraider21]

i dont know why you're whining to me. ive been a supporter of lamar getting paid. you mentioned their FRP wide receivers being short and i brought up that bateman is one who is not short. i also specifically mentioned that he's mostly been injured

[Blake]

Well at least you have your built in excuse ready to go when Lamar exits the first round again.

Difference is that you'll never blame Lamar for any of it. You're really in love.

[MultiTroll]

Difference is that you'll never blame Lamar for any of it. You're really in love.
I am an awesome talent evaluator, true.

[MultiTroll]

No one said he would, I’m talking just a playoff win. Btw, this is the same roster that had the Bengals on the ropes in Cincy if not for a fluke turnover at the end. They probably win if he plays but he couldn’t bother being there for his teammates because “muh contract”

and before you spout some bullshit injury excuse, he was questionable for just about every game the previous month leading up to kickoff, holding the team hostage as a negotiating tactic.

Joe Montana would’ve played. Even Huntley was injured going into the game and he showed up. People will always make excuses for players like this
You want to combine what you claim with the below F- report?


The difference between what Jackson has had to work with vs Mahomes is night and day.

Merely one aspect, and yes it continued into 2023
Former Ravens criticize departed strength coach, Rashod Bateman fires back at Eric DeCosta - The Baltimore Banner (https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-strength-coach-steve-saunders-criticism-matthew-judon-derek-wolfe-rashod-batement-eric-decosta-PE2HRMM3TNFXTEEKJDG2DHR5KY/)

Their comments on social media came in the wake of an NFL Players Association survey of players (https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards), released Wednesday, that gave the Ravens’ strength staff an F-minus grade. Only one other team, the Atlanta Falcons, received a grade worse than a B.

More Ravens injuries occur in Monday’s practice, including WR Sammy Watkins - Baltimore Beatdown (https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2021/8/16/22627280/more-ravens-injuries-occur-in-mondays-practice-including-wr-sammy-watkins)

[MultiTroll]

I'm sure Patty Mahomes and Josh Allen would take this guy to All Pro level.

Another gutsy expensive move by the Ravens to help Lamar.
Laquon Treadwell

Treadwell's journey through the NFL has been a bit more mercurial. Now on his seventh team in five years, the former Ole Miss standout was originally picked No. 23 overall by the Vikings back in 2016. He only once eclipsed 300 receiving yards in four seasons with Minnesota, logging a single catch as a rookie, then spent a year as a reserve for the Falcons.


His fortunes appeared to reverse in 2021 while playing for the Jaguars, posting a career-high 434 yards in 12 games as a quiet favorite of Trevor Lawrence. But Treadwell bounced between the Patriots and Cardinals last offseason before settling with the Seahawks, appearing in just six games.


Now in Baltimore, he figures to contend for a bottom-of-the-depth-chart role with veteran reserves like James Proche II, Andy Isabella and former Bengals backup Mike Thomas.

[MultiTroll]

For the love of (*&^&%*()(

I'm prepared for an absolute shit show with Jackson running for his life, getting sacked every other play.

But if somehow they have rehabbed Melvin Gordon then let the miracle begin.

Source - Ravens sign RB Melvin Gordon III to 1-year, $3.1M deal - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38047648/source-ravens-sign-rb-melvin-gordon-iii-1-year-31m-deal)

[Blake]

Let the excuses begin

[MultiTroll]

Let the excuses begin
Let the excuses begin.

[Blake]

Let the excuses begin.

You got a good start, it's not even August :tu

[MultiTroll]

You got a good start, it's not even August :tu
You got a good start, it's not even August.

I can do this all day Nancy.

Your Strawman nonsense will be melted.

[Blake]

You got a good start, it's not even August.

I can do this all day Nancy.

Your Strawman nonsense will be melted.

There's no excuses for me to make for him not winning the big games. You've made that your job.

[MultiTroll]

There's no excuses for me to make for him not winning the big games. You've made that your job.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/as-lamar-jackson-seeks-trade-a-look-at-why-the-ravens-have-only-one-playoff-win-in-star-qbs-first-5-seasons/

Yawn.
From article you posted:

Ravens didn't invest in wide receiver


"Ravens have invested the fewest cap dollars on offense and second-fewest on wide receivers since 2019. The results? The fewest receiving yards by wide receivers in three of the last four seasons."

[Blake]

Yawn.
From article you posted:

Ravens didn't invest in wide receiver


"Ravens have invested the fewest cap dollars on offense and second-fewest on wide receivers since 2019. The results? The fewest receiving yards by wide receivers in three of the last four seasons."

I'm glad to help you in that one but for future I'm gonna let you do your excuse leg work for yourself

[MultiTroll]

I'm glad to help you in that one but for future I'm gonna let you do your excuse leg work for yourself

Bok bok

[Blake]

Chop chop. His excuses for losing won't post themselves

[MultiTroll]

The difference between what Jackson has had to work with vs Mahomes is night and day.

Merely one aspect, and yes it continued into 2023
Former Ravens criticize departed strength coach, Rashod Bateman fires back at Eric DeCosta - The Baltimore Banner (https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-strength-coach-steve-saunders-criticism-matthew-judon-derek-wolfe-rashod-batement-eric-decosta-PE2HRMM3TNFXTEEKJDG2DHR5KY/)

Their comments on social media came in the wake of an NFL Players Association survey of players (https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards), released Wednesday, that gave the Ravens’ strength staff an F-minus grade. Only one other team, the Atlanta Falcons, received a grade worse than a B.

More Ravens injuries occur in Monday’s practice, including WR Sammy Watkins - Baltimore Beatdown (https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2021/8/16/22627280/more-ravens-injuries-occur-in-mondays-practice-including-wr-sammy-watkins)




Glad you mentioned Bateman. Here he specifically speaks to the points you Jackson haters have been making all thread long. Addressing GM DeCosta:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/57d_k4ZHUx4zJcz9ZdO4ht2BMVI=/0x0:720x656/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:720x656):format(webp):no_upscale ()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24473901/img_2336_720.jpg



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/08/a3/2a08a389cf4dcdb6eff5e208c9d163fb.png

[MultiTroll]

You Jackson Haters may have a problem with rookie Jay Flowers.

Looking good in camp so far.

Including YAC. Huge problem for Ravens receivers the last 3 years.

Monken has said he wants to spread the field both vertically and horizontally, creating mismatches and open space for receivers. Last season the Ravens had 33 pass plays of 20 yards or more; only the New York Giants (https://www.bigblueview.com/) had fewer.
“They need more explosive plays,” Baldinger said. “They need more yards after the catch. And some of these offensive principles can provide that.”

[Blake]

You Jackson Haters may have a problem with rookie Jay Flowers.

Looking good in camp so far.

Including YAC. Huge problem for Ravens receivers the last 3 years.

Monken has said he wants to spread the field both vertically and horizontally, creating mismatches and open space for receivers. Last season the Ravens had 33 pass plays of 20 yards or more; only the New York Giants (https://www.bigblueview.com/) had fewer.
“They need more explosive plays,” Baldinger said. “They need more yards after the catch. And some of these offensive principles can provide that.”

Hope it works out for him :tu

What's your excuse if it doesn't?

[MultiTroll]

Bok bok bok bok Ba GAWK!

[Blake]

Bok bok bok bok Ba GAWK!

:lol can't wait to hear your next excuse

[MultiTroll]

The difference between what Jackson has had to work with vs Mahomes is night and day.

Merely one aspect, and yes it continued into 2023
Former Ravens criticize departed strength coach, Rashod Bateman fires back at Eric DeCosta - The Baltimore Banner (https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-strength-coach-steve-saunders-criticism-matthew-judon-derek-wolfe-rashod-batement-eric-decosta-PE2HRMM3TNFXTEEKJDG2DHR5KY/)

Their comments on social media came in the wake of an NFL Players Association survey of players (https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards), released Wednesday, that gave the Ravens’ strength staff an F-minus grade. Only one other team, the Atlanta Falcons, received a grade worse than a B.

More Ravens injuries occur in Monday’s practice, including WR Sammy Watkins - Baltimore Beatdown (https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2021/8/16/22627280/more-ravens-injuries-occur-in-mondays-practice-including-wr-sammy-watkins)




Glad you mentioned Bateman. Here he specifically speaks to the points you Jackson haters have been making all thread long. Addressing GM DeCosta:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/57d_k4ZHUx4zJcz9ZdO4ht2BMVI=/0x0:720x656/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:720x656):format(webp):no_upscale ()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24473901/img_2336_720.jpg


Yawn.
From article you posted:

Ravens didn't invest in wide receiver


"Ravens have invested the fewest cap dollars on offense and second-fewest on wide receivers since 2019. The results? The fewest receiving yards by wide receivers in three of the last four seasons."


:lol can't wait to hear your next excuse
Still waiting for you Jackson Haters 1st ever response to this.

Stop making excuses.

[Blake]

Still waiting for you Jackson Haters 1st ever response to this.

Stop making excuses.

You're writing him a note to excuse him from Super Bowls because of his poor strength coaches and lack of spending on decent wide receivers. Got it already. What more am I supposed to say to you?

[MultiTroll]

You're writing him a note to excuse him from Super Bowls because of his poor strength coaches and lack of spending on decent wide receivers. Got it already. What more am I supposed to say to you?
Did that apply to his teams the past 3 years?

Still gonna bob n weave?

[Blake]

Did that apply to his teams the past 3 years?

Still gonna bob n weave?

Did it? It's your excuses for him not winning big games, not mine.

[MultiTroll]

Did it? It's your excuses for him not winning big games, not mine.
Exactly.

And so if the new strength and training crew is on par with the rest of the NFL, along with if his receivers hold onto passes this year while having a modicum of YAC and the offensive play calling is vastly improved you Jackson Haters will make the excuse that he is playing soo much better.

Prawk prawk.

[Blake]

Exactly.

And so if the new strength and training crew is on par with the rest of the NFL, along with if his receivers hold onto passes this year while having a modicum of YAC and the offensive play calling is vastly improved you Jackson Haters will make the excuse that he is playing soo much better.

Prawk prawk.

:lol do you know the definition of an "excuse"?

[MultiTroll]

Jay Fowler rookie WR is a keeper. Good draft pick. Looking forward to Action Jackson and Fowler hooking up and making you Haters cry some more.

Otherwise, they have 4 good TEs even tho that is the one position that has been satisfactory. Go figure.

The addition of Melvin Gordon III is beyond retarded and yes he contributed to last nights end of a 24 game win streak, albeit Pre Season games.
Just retarded incompetence continued by this GM and Dumbaugh. Stop stealing a roster spot from a deserving player.
Hopefully that is exactly what will happen and one of the other running backs will make the 53.

Backup QB was completely robbed of an endzone TD by butterfingers James Proche. Another shrimp receiver obtained by the GM. Was some defensive pass interference but still very catchable. Welcome to Lamar Jacksons world. Hopefully Proche gets replaced by a good WR.

Must have made you Haters happy. Prawk prawk.

[MultiTroll]

Progress.
Melvin Gordon was cut while undrafted rookie Keaton Mitchell made the 52 roster.

Whew.

[MultiTroll]

Any improvement in strength and conditioning team?
Baltimore Ravens could rule out 10 starters for Week 3 vs. Colts (ebonybird.com) (https://ebonybird.com/posts/baltimore-ravens-could-rule-out-10-starters-for-week-3-vs-colts-01hawpcypx1x)


:lol do you know the definition of an "excuse"?
Lets hear your and the other Jackson Haters excuses on the above.

[MultiTroll]

Jackson Haters: "Prawk prawk"
1704955295552676197

[MultiTroll]

Action Jackson
7-7 90 yards
5 runs for 31 + a TD.

Colts 10 Ravens 7 halftime.


Jacksons fault. Mahomes Josh Allen would have prevented those fumbles.

[Blake]

Any improvement in strength and conditioning team?
Baltimore Ravens could rule out 10 starters for Week 3 vs. Colts (ebonybird.com) (https://ebonybird.com/posts/baltimore-ravens-could-rule-out-10-starters-for-week-3-vs-colts-01hawpcypx1x)


Lets hear your and the other Jackson Haters excuses on the above.

You're definitely loaded for bear for when or if the Ravens get bounced out of the playoffs again. Got your excuses loaded in each holster, safeties off.

[MultiTroll]

You're definitely loaded for bear for when or if the Ravens get bounced out of the playoffs again. Got your excuses loaded in each holster, safeties off.
:lmao Make sure you don't watch the end of todays game.

[Blake]

:lmao Make sure you don't watch the end of todays game.

I've already read your excuses for why they lost in your pre game warmups

[MultiTroll]

I've already read your excuses for why they lost in your pre game warmups
It's good to see you utilizing my outstanding football vision.
No excuses from you when it comes to be.

Oh and more Ravens news, Odell Beckem Jr injured out (zero surprise) and.....
dating Kim Kardashian -allegedly.
I would cut the f-er on the spot but only if verified.

[MultiTroll]

I've already read your excuses for why they lost in your pre game warmups
Here is more ammo for you Jackson Haters.
2 of the *upgrade starting WRs are already out. ��

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/ravens-injury-report-wrs-odell-beckham-jr-and-rashod-bateman-ruled-out-for-game-at-clevland/

[DeadlyDynasty]

These AFC North games are great. I love old school black and blue football where every point is critical

[DeadlyDynasty]

Here is more ammo for you Jackson Haters.
2 of the *upgrade starting WRs are already out. ��

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/ravens-injury-report-wrs-odell-beckham-jr-and-rashod-bateman-ruled-out-for-game-at-clevland/
DeRape Watson ruled out with a shoulder injury, rookie QB to start.

The game is Jackson’s to lose now. 13 points should be all the offense they need in this one

[MultiTroll]

DeRape Watson ruled out with a shoulder injury, rookie QB to start.

The game is Jackson’s to lose now. 13 points should be all the offense they need in this one
Wow, i was waiting for verification.
What a score for those who picked Baltimore as an underdog yesterday.

Don't think even Dumbaugh and some of the butter fingered receivers can screw this up.
BrownRef will probably step up but ya, Ravens should get this easy.

Whats the story on the rookie QB negro going for Cleveland?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wow, i was waiting for verification.
What a score for those who picked Baltimore as an underdog yesterday.

Don't think even Dumbaugh and some of the butter fingered receivers can screw this up.
BrownRef will probably step up but ya, Ravens should get this easy.

Whats the story on the rookie QB negro going for Cleveland?
Don’t know anything about him, tbh

[MultiTroll]

Action Jackson gettin er done.
1708549814655324647

[Blake]

Here is more ammo for you Jackson Haters.
2 of the *upgrade starting WRs are already out. ��

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/ravens-injury-report-wrs-odell-beckham-jr-and-rashod-bateman-ruled-out-for-game-at-clevland/

Aww and you had your excuse all ready to go if they lost

[MultiTroll]

Aww and you had your excuse all ready to go if they lost
Aww and you had your excuse all ready to go if they lost

[Blake]

Aww and you had your excuse all ready to go if they lost

Lol that makes no sense. I had my lol ready to go tho.

[MultiTroll]

Lol that makes no sense. I had my lol ready to go tho.
Makes total sense.
You Jackson Haters have all kinds of excuses why (as you claim) he's not a good QB.

[Blake]

Makes total sense.
You Jackson Haters have all kinds of excuses why (as you claim) he's not a good QB.

We both have reasons why he loses. Mine are pointed more at Jackson, yours are pointed more at everyone/anyone else but him

[MultiTroll]

We both have reasons why he loses. Mine are pointed more at Jackson, yours are pointed more at everyone/anyone else but him
Which you rarely, if ever provide an example.

Ok moving it to this year.
He's 3-1, albeit vs shit teams. Nonetheless in the ONLY game the Ravens lost, did you watch the final 6 minutes.
Perfect pass by Jackson to receiver who had the ball bounce off between his #s.
Would have been chip shot FG with seconds remaining.
Next, in OT another good pass good for another chip shot. Linebacker knows he's fucked so basically just does a tackle on little Zay Flowers the rookie. No call.
You spin will be ya calls get missed.
Lets see that happen with Brady, Mahomes, (unless Mahomes was playing Brady) or any other top QB.
Try to not change the subject.

I will attempt to get you video of both plays.

[Blake]

Right, I rarely give any reasons for Jackson being a loser. I just don't really care enough.

[MultiTroll]

Right, I rarely give any reasons for Jackson being a loser. I just don't really care enough.
When asked to give his reasons for stating Jackson "being a loser", Blake bailed to the exit with a pivot excuse.

[J.T.]

If Lamar breaks it he will only be keeping the seat warm for Anthony Richardson

[MultiTroll]

If Lamar breaks it he will only be keeping the seat warm for Anthony Richardson
Lamar already broke it. He owns the record, established in 2019 at 1206.

He (and hopefully you) got a big reality check last Sunday.
But Richardson is tough and talented, I'll give you that.

Fields on the Bears was on his way to breaking Super Lamars record last year but got injured late so we'll never know what would have happened in the final game.

[MultiTroll]

Ravens injuries: horrible David Ojabo news, 2 returns from IR, Marlon Humphrey update (ebonybird.com) (https://ebonybird.com/posts/ravens-injuries-horrible-david-ojabo-news-2-returns-from-ir-marlon-humphrey-update-01hbrzjn5jab)

Fuckity fuck fuck.

Odell Kardashian is due back. However if he is getting heavily involved with Kim i want his ass cut.

[Blake]

Ravens injuries: horrible David Ojabo news, 2 returns from IR, Marlon Humphrey update (ebonybird.com) (https://ebonybird.com/posts/ravens-injuries-horrible-david-ojabo-news-2-returns-from-ir-marlon-humphrey-update-01hbrzjn5jab)

Fuckity fuck fuck.

Odell Kardashian is due back. However if he is getting heavily involved with Kim i want his ass cut.

I'd say Lamar's horrible red zone INT and not sensing the defender before getting stripped there in the 4th quarter contributed to the loss but I'm sure Team Lamar appreciates your excuses

Bravo for getting them in before the game started tho :tu

[spurraider21]

throughout the game lamar got fucked over by his receivers even more than mahomes did in week 1 tbh. had 7 charted drops, which is just nuts for a single game, multiple of which were TDs

but then the 2 turnovers at the end didnt help, not that the fumble was his fault, he was stripped from behind while in the throwing motion, and wasnt a circumstance where he held the ball for an unreasonable amount of time

still, ravens should have blown them out

[spurraider21]

1711389441162448940

[MultiTroll]

^^ Blake: "Prawwwk prawk"

Dallas Cowboys linebacker Micah Parsons catches Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes from behind for strip-sack (nfl.com) (https://www.nfl.com/videos/parsons-catches-mahomes-from-behind-for-strip-sack)

[MultiTroll]

he was stripped from behind while in the throwing motion, and wasnt a circumstance where he held the ball for an unreasonable amount of time
The running back who stayed back to block and had an easy double team as the OLimenan was engaging Watt, looked like he 100 purposely missed JJ Watt incoming and instead did an air block.
Dumbaugh acknowledged in the presser it was a **missed** block.

Fair and balanced Fabbs acknowledges the INT was just horrible. The hell did he even throw that pass directly to the DB for.

[Blake]

The running back who stayed back to block and had an easy double team as the OLimenan was engaging Watt, looked like he 100 purposely missed JJ Watt incoming and instead did an air block.
Dumbaugh acknowledged in the presser it was a **missed** block.

Fair and balanced Fabbs acknowledges the INT was just horrible. The hell did he even throw that pass directly to the DB for.

Fair and balanced Blake acknowledges the team as a whole blew it from top to bottom. It's old though for Team Lamar to keep giving him passes for the losses. Amazing you're actually acknowledging Lamar had his gaffs in crunch time when the game was still winnable.

[Blake]

^^ Blake: "Prawwwk prawk"

Dallas Cowboys linebacker Micah Parsons catches Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes from behind for strip-sack (nfl.com) (https://www.nfl.com/videos/parsons-catches-mahomes-from-behind-for-strip-sack)

Patrick has multiple Super Bowls and MVPs. The Chiefs also still won that game.

[Will Hunting]

Why is this thread 15 pages long?

[MultiTroll]

Why is this thread 15 pages long?
To match my dick size in inches.

[MultiTroll]

Patrick has multiple Super Bowls and MVPs. The Chiefs also still won that game.
Derrr errr errrr and did Patricks recievers drop 7 f-ing balls including at least 2 and probably 3 TDs? Special teams have a blocked punt for safery. Derr errr errr that is Lamars fault.
Oh you don't want to go there.

Watch a freaking Ravens game before spouting.
Are you going to respond to SR21s recent posts?
Or just cherry pick on the one bad play Jackson made all day, albeit at the worst possible time?

[Blake]

Pretty weird how this happens to Lamar during crunch time.

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[Blake]

"......He had one more chance to be a hero with 45 seconds left, down 23-17. But on the second play of that drive, Jackson had the ball stripped when he cocked his arm, and the Chargers recovered....."

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/06/lamar-jackson-baltimore-ravens-rookie-season-over-los-angeles-chargers-loss/2464769002/

[MultiTroll]

"......He had one more chance to be a hero with 45 seconds left, down 23-17. But on the second play of that drive, Jackson had the ball stripped when he cocked his arm, and the Chargers recovered....."

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/06/lamar-jackson-baltimore-ravens-rookie-season-over-los-angeles-chargers-loss/2464769002/
:lol I guess Lamars career just doesn't compare to your football career.

[MultiTroll]

Pretty weird how this happens to Lamar during crunch time.
Ya.
Ravens news: Lamar Jackson backflips his way to game-winning TD vs KC (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-lamar-jackson-backflips-his-way-to-game-winning-td-vs-kc)

[Blake]

:lol I guess Lamars career just doesn't compare to your football career.

We both have the same number of Super Bowl wins

[MultiTroll]

rInGz cOuNt :lol

I guess in your mind your football abilities are the same as Lamars.

[MultiTroll]

"......He had one more chance to be a hero with 45 seconds left, down 23-17. But on the second play of that drive, Jackson had the ball stripped when he cocked his arm, and the Chargers recovered....."

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/06/lamar-jackson-baltimore-ravens-rookie-season-over-los-angeles-chargers-loss/2464769002/
Make sure to highlight that one play ^^ while completely ignoring this:
NFL Playoffs: Chargers knew '60 to 70 percent' of Ravens offensive plays before they happened - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-chargers-knew-60-to-70-percent-of-ravens-offensive-plays-before-they-happened/)

[Blake]

rInGz cOuNt :lol

I guess in your mind your football abilities are the same as Lamars.

Yeah I think I could drop back and fumble the football just like he did

[MultiTroll]

Yeah I think I could drop back and fumble the football just like he did
Has he ever made a good play in your biased obvervation?

Could you have made the same good plays?

Such talent wasted on ___ your current.

[Blake]

Has he ever made a good play in your biased obvervation?

Could you have made the same good plays?

Such talent wasted on ___ your current.

No, he's never made a good play.

[MultiTroll]

No, he's never made a good play.
Your paid annalist gig must be going well. :lol

Actually given todays sports media that could true.:depressed

[Blake]

Your paid annalist gig must be going well. :lol

Actually given todays sports media that could true.:depressed

How much is Lamar paying you to lionize him here?

[MultiTroll]

How much is Lamar paying you to lionize him here?
My service in pointing out truths and solid facts stem in part from my time on Del Mar Beach catching some bullets from Lamar while us guys did an informal beach scrimmage game. :clap

Lamars a real nigggga.

[MultiTroll]

Yeah I think I could drop back and fumble the football just like he did
Blake your best bet to spin yesterdays win in London is to hone in on his one and only INT.
Ignore the fact that the db did a 24" vertical leap to catch the ball while Bateman got...I'm gonna say at least an inch and a half off the ground.
Clearly on Lamar.

His kick ass runs and otherwise good passing.....well make sure you omit that.
4-2 with one huge giveaway.
Soin that someway too.
Ya i know, "well he didn't win the SuperBowl."

[Blake]

Why would I spin a win? :lol

[MultiTroll]

Why would I spin a win? :lol
You've done it 49 other times, why stop now?

Jackson 50-21 on career.

[Blake]

You've done it 49 other times, why stop now?

Jackson 50-21 on career.

No I haven't. This is your alter thread where you spin all of his losses on everyone else but Jackson.

[MultiTroll]

No I haven't. This is your alter thread where you spin all of his losses on everyone else but Jackson.
I'll start working on excuses for you for the Ravens / Lions game.

[Blake]

I'll start working on excuses for you for the Ravens / Lions game.

At least that'll give your Lamar blow up doll a rest

[spurraider21]

No QB has played better than Lamar this season through week 7

[DAF86]

So what's the point of this thread, to argue if Lamar is any good?

[MultiTroll]

So what's the point of this thread, to argue if Lamar is any good?

It's about Lamar.


No QB has played better than Lamar this season through week 7

[Blake]

No QB has played better than Lamar this season through week 7

Based on what?

[Blake]

So what's the point of this thread, to argue if Lamar is any good?

If you're not here to worship him then gtfo

[spurraider21]

Based on what?
his performance given the circumstances. they've been pretty banged up on offense at a few different positions, and he's consistently put them in positions to win. he's been a very efficient passer.

zay flowers has been good, but otherwise their leading WR is nelson agholor lol

[Blake]

his performance given the circumstances. they've been pretty banged up on offense at a few different positions, and he's consistently put them in positions to win. he's been a very efficient passer.

zay flowers has been good, but otherwise their leading WR is nelson agholor lol

I think Patrick has been better with his banged up offense. We are just getting too used to him now to still give him the credit he deserves.

I also think Tua has been awesome.

I'm fine with anyone saying Lamar is a top 3 QB thru week 7. He's been great.

[MultiTroll]

I think Patrick has been better with his banged up offense. We are just getting too used to him now to still give him the credit he deserves.

I also think Tua has been awesome.

I'm fine with anyone saying Lamar is a top 3 QB thru week 7. He's been great.
:lmao Who has a better receiving core, Patrick, Tua or Lamar?

[Blake]

:lmao Who has a better receiving core, Patrick, Tua or Lamar?

Tua easily

[MultiTroll]

No QB has played better than Lamar this season through week 7
Could you imagine if Blake was forced to sit down and watch the Pittsburg Raven game from start to finish?
In a room filled with high IQ football people.


Based on what?

[leemajors]

Could you imagine if Blake was forced to sit down and watch the Pittsburg Raven game from start to finish?
In a room filled with high IQ football people.

I’ve never heard Blake’s voice and probably never will, but I’d rather listen to him than anything Joe Buck has to say and ever will say

[Blake]

Could you imagine if Blake was forced to sit down and watch the Pittsburg Raven game from start to finish?
In a room filled with high IQ football people.

I know who won't be in that room

[Blake]

Quiet in here lately

[MultiTroll]

Quiet in here lately
Since Lamars receivers are generally catching the ball the past 3 games, not sure what to give you that you could use as an excuse to denigrate his teams being 7-2 yet again.

Ya you've been quiet re Lamar Jackson.

[Blake]

Since Lamars receivers are generally catching the ball the past 3 games, not sure what to give you that you could use as an excuse to denigrate his teams being 7-2 yet again.

Ya you've been quiet re Lamar Jackson.


Yeah I've been quiet because he's been quiet. What's your excuse as to why the rest of the team is playing great now?

[MultiTroll]

Yeah I've been quiet because he's been quiet. What's your excuse as to why the rest of the team is playing great now?
I would say very good, not great play. Defense played excellent vs Seahawks, altho the Hawks made some really bad plays.
Receivers are catching most of the easily catchable throws, but still have a drop rate that keeps Super Lamar from being 80%+ completion rate.
Odell is just even, neither a plus nor minus thus far. Had a very diva fumble that could have let Hawks back into the game, carrying the ball like it was one of his designer purses. Pathetic.

Rookie running back is excellent. Hope Ravens can keep him healthy.

So, great D and competent running back outside of Hall of Fame Lamars top NFL running ability has them at 7-2. OLine blowing holes last weekend.

Lamar just being Lamar.

[MultiTroll]

Lamar Jackson is 52 rushing yards away from surpassing Randall Cunningham's career total (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/lamar-jackson-is-52-rushing-yards-away-from-surpassing-randall-cunningham-s-career-total/ar-AA1jC4v6)

[Blake]

Fun fact: Randall once kicked a 91 yard punt

[MultiTroll]

Did not see the two interceptions Blake but if they were Jackson's fault, Blast Away.

Ravens Beyond incompetent with the lead.

[MultiTroll]

For Sale

2 tickets to Ravens @ Chargers November 26th 5:20 p.m.
400 each.
Not holding breath.

[Blake]

Did not see the two interceptions Blake but if they were Jackson's fault, Blast Away.

Ravens Beyond incompetent with the lead.

"Sunday's game came down to the quarterback play. In the fourth quarter, the Browns' Deshaun Watson was 7-of-7 for 88 yards and a touchdown, while the Ravens' Lamar Jackson was 1-of-5 for 11 yards and an interception, which came off a deflected pass and returned 34 yards for a touchdown.

Jackson's 6.4 Total QBR in the fourth quarter was the third worst of his career.

"We just have to finish the game," Jackson said."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38886274/ravens-lamar-jackson-issues-closing-games

Ouch

[Blake]

Pretty weird how this happens to Lamar during crunch time.

1581738712844550144


Just weird

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[MultiTroll]

You think that one's weird, look at his first interception. A pass under thrown by 10 yd? Unless the receiver ran the wrong route that's super whacked out. If the receiver did run the correct route then Jackson's either throwing the game, had a concussion or just flat sucks under pressure. Blake I am most definitely no longer defending him. The fourth quarter stats and more importantly the blown lead stats speak volumes.

Sold my tickets to the Ravens game at Sofi Stadium versus the Chargers. No way am I traveling and paying to see this b*******.

[MultiTroll]

Got the all time rushing record vs Cinci.

As to the win, whatever.
Burrow went out with a 10-7 lead.
One of Jacksons TD passes was tipped and flukily went to a Raven.

I still think Jackson is compromised but we'll still see the regular season wins accumulate.
If he makes it to the Bowl, great. But i think his overlords have instructed otherwise.

[MultiTroll]

Lamar Jackson 5,000+ rushing yards career.

Only 3 others have accomplished this.
Vick
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson

Action Jackson accomplished in 84 games. Far fewer then it required the other three (over 100 games).

[MultiTroll]

Blake i saw the whole thing live* and viewed some tape afterwords.

Lamar, while def not spectacular was much more solid then the stats would show.
Dumbah most def cost him as did two crucial plays.
1. Butterfingers Duvernay on 3rd and long dropped the perfect pass.
2. Flowers dropped a beauty bomg also on 3rd and long. However he was 100 pass interfered with and should have drawn the flag for a big 40 yard gain.
Both would have put the Ravens in fg range or better -again.

3. On yet another 3rd and long (19), Action Jackson averted the broken down pass protection and bolted. All the way here there and everywhere and then ran towards the 1st down pylon. On his final step well inbounds he clearly reached the ball out a full yard ahead of the 1st down marker. Talker heads noted how Dumbah should absolutely challenge and it would be auto 1st down. Didnt.
4th and 8 inches now. Increadibly Mr. Go For It decided to attempt a fg. Equally incredible was Justin Tucker farted the 44 yarder.

Once again Action Jacksons efforts go for nil.

*Sold tickets then ended up getting comped. An offer i could not refuse.

[Blake]

I do remember one 4th and a few where the Ravens went wildcat with the RB instead of Lamar and didn't make it. Stupid.

He started out 5-6 but ended 18-32 for 177. Pretty mediocre.

I think I see a pattern where him running the ball gets him beat down and gassed by the time the 4th comes around.

Either way, he just might be able to Trent Dilfer his way to the super bowl with that bad ass defense.

[MultiTroll]

I do remember one 4th and a few where the Ravens went wildcat with the RB instead of Lamar and didn't make it. Stupid.

He started out 5-6 but ended 18-32 for 177. Pretty mediocre.
In the words of Giselle Brady do you want Jackson to throw and catch the balls?



1. Butterfingers Duvernay on 3rd and long dropped the perfect pass.
2. Flowers dropped a beauty bomg also on 3rd and long. However he was 100 pass interfered with and should have drawn the flag for a big 40 yard gain.
Both would have put the Ravens in fg range or better -again.

3. On yet another 3rd and long (19), Action Jackson averted the broken down pass protection and bolted. All the way here there and everywhere and then ran towards the 1st down pylon. On his final step well inbounds he clearly reached the ball out a full yard ahead of the 1st down marker. Talker heads noted how Dumbah should absolutely challenge and it would be auto 1st down. Didnt.


Once again Action Jacksons efforts go for nil.
The Duvernay drop was good for about 20 and would have moved them well into Bolt territory.
The Flowers bomb which the Charger db simply knew has beat so did a blatant arm hold would have been good for 40 minimum. Jackson threw a perfect pass 50 yards off his back foot.

Let me know the next time Pattys receivers get blatantly held on a bomb and no call.

Also the above mentioned Dumbah going Wildcat for the miss on 4th and 8 inches was immediately after Jackson converted the 3rd and long run for a clear 1st down but refs burned the placement and Dumbah did not challenge.

[Blake]

In the words of Giselle Brady do you want Jackson to throw and catch the balls?


The Duvernay drop was good for about 20 and would have moved them well into Bolt territory.
The Flowers bomb which the Charger db simply knew has beat so did a blatant arm hold would have been good for 40 minimum. Jackson threw a perfect pass 50 yards off his back foot.

Let me know the next time Pattys receivers get blatantly held on a bomb and no call.

Also the above mentioned Dumbah going Wildcat for the miss on 4th and 8 inches was immediately after Jackson converted the 3rd and long run for a clear 1st down but refs burned the placement and Dumbah did not challenge.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

[MultiTroll]

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232
What a croc of shit.
Is this the same people who rule what is a "hit" vs "error" in MLB?

[Blake]

What a croc of shit.
Is this the same people who rule what is a "hit" vs "error" in MLB?

To be fair Lamar doesn't pass much compared to others.

[MultiTroll]

To be fair Lamar doesn't pass much compared to others.
I've witnessed 16 i would bet my balls on.
Video doesn't lie.
Even the mainstream lamestream acknowledges he had 6 vs Pittsburg.
Asshats trying to peddle the Ravens butterfingers have only averaged 1 drop per game outside of Pittsburg. What a load crap. I see this website has no Contact Us. Unless Im missing it.

I realize Patty prolly really has had that many dropped this season.
Welcome to Lamars world.

[MultiTroll]

12 runs 97 yards including some crucial 1st downs when the offense was inept.
Good passing, the usual several drops by Raven WRs. But also a few nice grabs, particularly by the TEs.
Crucial injury to the good rookie RB Mitchell. Praying dog jpeg he is okay.

Blake you might wanna focus in on Jacksons INT in the 1st qtr. Otherwise not sure what you can conjure up against him.
55-19 as a starter now.

[MultiTroll]

Huge blow.
Ravens Offense Dealt Gigantic Blow (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ravens-offense-dealt-gigantic-blow/ar-AA1lGf4r?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6b5f95e7510a4e899b8e75541a183fe1&ei=26)

[Blake]

12 runs 97 yards including some crucial 1st downs when the offense was inept.
Good passing, the usual several drops by Raven WRs. But also a few nice grabs, particularly by the TEs.
Crucial injury to the good rookie RB Mitchell. Praying dog jpeg he is okay.

Blake you might wanna focus in on Jacksons INT in the 1st qtr. Otherwise not sure what you can conjure up against him.
55-19 as a starter now.

Nothing. It was a nice average game for a running QB.

You might want to focus on that ridiculous defense carrying the team.

[MultiTroll]

Blake there is still almost one half of the game to play.
But you could probably highlight the 4 INTs by Purdy to denigrate Lamar Jacksons performance.
Also the safety on Baltimore.

Action Jackson
19-30 183 yds with 2 dropped passes
3 runs 36 yards including a beauty on 3rd and 16 for the first down.

30-12 Baltimore.

[DAF86]

Neh, I bet your bottom line is that he'll be a decent qb in the long term.

My bottom line is that he'll probably be finished as a starter by 2021.... Or sooner.

2023 and about to win his 2nd MVP. :lol

The "figured out" QB. :lol

[MultiTroll]

he looked atrocious and there's no way to sugarcoat it. He's no prospect for anything, he has 0 upside.


bust.
There there Ralphie.

[Donald Sterling.]

NFL James Harden

[Blake]

2023 and about to win his 2nd MVP. :lol

The "figured out" QB. :lol

Best player on the best team does usually get the MVP.

the MVP trophy really belongs to Raven D

[Blake]

Lamar definitely a big upgrade over Trent Dilfer. There is literally no excuse now if he doesn't win the Super Bowl....... Right?

[MultiTroll]

Best player on the best team does usually get the MVP.

the MVP trophy really belongs to Raven D
Ya Aaron Rodgers was the best player 4 seasons.
BradyRef too.


Lamar definitely a big upgrade over Trent Dilfer. There is literally no excuse now if he doesn't win the Super Bowl....... Right?
You mean because you declare this Baltimore defense to be the equal of murdering Ray and crew, they must be?

No, i don't think they are the equal.

[Blake]

Ya Aaron Rodgers was the best player 4 seasons.
BradyRef too.


You mean because you declare this Baltimore defense to be the equal of murdering Ray and crew, they must be?

No, i don't think they are the equal.

No I'm not declaring that. I'm asking you what your excuse will be if they don't win the Super Bowl.

[benefactor]

NFL James Harden
Or Russell Westbrook. Either comparison works

[DAF86]

Or Russell Westbrook. Either comparison works

Westbrook never had the positive impact Lamar has on winning.

I don't understand what folks in this forum have against Lamar, it's just a race thing? :lol

[Blake]

Westbrook never had the positive impact Lamar has on winning.

I don't understand what folks in this forum have against Lamar, it's just a race thing? :lol


Like clock work, the benefit of not overreacting. Updated with 2 weeks to go (out for the season not included):

1- Mahomes

2-Allen
3-Lamar

4-Stroud
5-Hurts
6-Tua
7-Purdy
8-Stafford
9-Lawrence
10-Murray

Why'd you put Allen over Lamar?

[DAF86]

Why'd you put Allen over Lamar?

Because he has been better and more consistent (mainly healthier) these last couple of seasons.

If Lamar wins it all this season, he's passing Allen, easily.

[Blake]

Because he has been better and more consistent (mainly healthier) these last couple of seasons.

If Lamar wins it all this season, he's passing Allen, easily.

Mainly whiter?

[MultiTroll]

No I'm not declaring that. I'm asking you what your excuse will be if they don't win the Super Bowl.
You're wanting me to time travel?
I'm awesome, but not that good.

My solid and fact based honest take will be after the Super Bowl or whenever the Ravens get eliminated, whichever comes 1st.

Are you lining up new excuses if the Ravens do win the Bowl? Or just gonna parrot "The D carried them."

[benefactor]

They aren't going to win. And after he loses yet again you'll just stand in front of the mirror and stare at the picture you have taped in the corner of Tom Brady and have to accept that your monkey balling savior will never be anything close to him.

[Bill_Brasky]

Are we really still pretending thar Lamar Jackson can't throw the ball?

I'm just glad we don't have to hear about Brock Purdy and his "elite processing" and how he leads the league in every obscure metric and he's the real MVP, even though we saw jimmy garopposhit literally go to the super bowl and multiple NFC championships in that same offense before it had CMC.

Also just this idea that it takes some big brained genius to successfully be an NFL QB is so fucking overrated, this entire sport is full of some of the biggest dumbasses to ever exist, and plenty of HOF QBs are complete retards. Ohhh if the coverage has deep leverage throw it short, if they have shallow leverage throw it deep, it's so complicated!

[MultiTroll]

the MVP trophy really belongs to Raven D


No I'm not declaring that.
So where are you comparing Ravens D vs Lamars O?

[MultiTroll]

Are we really still pretending thar Lamar Jackson can't throw the ball?
:lol
Low NFL IQ posters still aren't getting it.
With those elite receivers Lamar has to boot.

Another of their tell tale signs is how the Ravens have done with Jackson out.
Hayters don't wanna see that stat.

[Bill_Brasky]

He has pretty decent receivers this year. I like Zay Jones a lot, and Bateman has been good in spots. OBJ has had a couple of good games. Biggest thing though is that when Mark Andrews got hurt Likely stepped up and filled in nicely.

[Blake]

So where are you comparing Ravens D vs Lamars O?

I'm not comparing them. Why are you not giving the defense the credit it deserves?

"....the Ravens enter Sunday’s showdown against the AFC South-leading Miami Dolphins atop the league in sacks, takeaways and pass defense efficiency, according to FTN....."

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-defense-disguise-coverage-mike-macdonald-lies-miami-dolphins-XVUA2UP6NJHQXHE42VCSR5RCD4/

[MultiTroll]

He has pretty decent receivers this year. I like Zay Jones a lot, and Bateman has been good in spots. OBJ has had a couple of good games. Biggest thing though is that when Mark Andrews got hurt Likely stepped up and filled in nicely.
Average at best.
Zay Flowers had a great start. Still good. But about 7 games in he started that dropped ball shit and it's continued.
Bateman blows. Has had many drops this year. But yes he can make good grabs. Inconsistent. Ya never know what you're gonna get.
OBJ has gotten better as the year has gone on. Plenty of drops up until about 3 weeks ago. Solid grabs too.
TE has filled in nicely. Ravens had 4 TEs in training camp and i thought 3 and 4 looked great. Not sure where they went, but Likely is working out fine for now.
The lil running back that was having an excellent year was also a good pass catcher. His injury hurts.

Can, will the recievers all gel at the same time in the playoffs?
Praying dog jpeg for me.

[MultiTroll]

I'm not comparing them. Why are you not giving the defense the credit it deserves?

"....the Ravens enter Sunday’s showdown against the AFC South-leading Miami Dolphins atop the league in sacks, takeaways and pass defense efficiency, according to FTN....."

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/ravens-nfl/ravens-defense-disguise-coverage-mike-macdonald-lies-miami-dolphins-XVUA2UP6NJHQXHE42VCSR5RCD4/
Because i give the Ravens D legit credit.
You do it in an attempt to discredit Jackson.

[Blake]

Because i give the Ravens D legit credit.
You do it in an attempt to discredit Jackson.

Lol I haven't seen you give them any credit at all in an attempt to prop up your hero in this worship thread.

I don't think he's doing anything extra special this year compared to his previous years to get his team to the record it has now. You were whining about the team being shit before the season started.

[MultiTroll]

I don't think he's doing anything extra special this year compared to his previous years to get his team to the record it has now.

My whole point and a good point and now you're grasping how good Jackson is.
All of this with an average O Line.

Receivers finally catch more passes this year (it could only go up) and yes the D has some bad ass players.
J Clowney was a great addition. The LBs are kicking ass too. Excellent as ball separation and teaming up to cause fumbles.

[MultiTroll]

your hero in this worship thread.
How's Patty Mahomes doing now that his receivers are dropping passes?

Is Patty all of a sudden experiencing a huge drop off in his performance?

Try applying the same perameters you do for Jackson.

[Blake]

My whole point and a good point and now you're grasping how good Jackson is.
All of this with an average O Line.

Receivers finally catch more passes this year (it could only go up) and yes the D has some bad ass players.
J Clowney was a great addition. The LBs are kicking ass too. Excellent as ball separation and teaming up to cause fumbles.

So now you're dogging the OLine to prop up Lamar?

"Baltimore has been able to navigate injury issues well to begin the 2023 season thanks to prioritizing depth across their offensive line. Seven different linemen have played at least 150 snaps for Baltimore to begin the season. Only one of those players (left guard John Simpson) has a PFF grade below 61.0 to begin the year. Tyler Linderbaum has emerged as a top-10 center in the NFL this season, allowing just five pressures on 146 pass attempts this year....."

https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/50012/nfl-offensive-line-rankings#:~:text=Baltimore%20Ravens%20(Preseason%2 0Rank%3A%205)&text=Baltimore%20has%20been%20able%20to,Baltimore% 20to%20begin%20the%20season.

Who's next, the punter?

[Blake]

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-week-17-2023

Lol ranked #3 here

[FrostKing]

What will they say after the Browns eliminate the Ravens from Playoffs ❓️

[MultiTroll]

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-week-17-2023

Lol ranked #3 here

And so they are.
Ravens are 12-3.
Give Super Lamar time, he delivers.

Make sure you don't post any stats when the Ravens O Line was *rated* near the bottom.

[Blake]

And so they are.
Ravens are 12-3.
Give Super Lamar time, he delivers.

Make sure you don't post any stats when the Ravens O Line was *rated* near the bottom.

When was that?

[Blake]

How's Patty Mahomes doing now that his receivers are dropping passes?

Is Patty all of a sudden experiencing a huge drop off in his performance?

Try applying the same perameters you do for Jackson.

When Patty has decent WRs, he wins super bowls and MVPs. Parameters applied.

[benefactor]

What will they say after the Browns eliminate the Ravens from Playoffs ❓️
They won't say shit. Then we will get late in the season next season when the Ravens have a good record and they start pushing Jackson again. Then he will fail again. Rinse repeat until he gets that injury running the ball that leaves him unable to monkey ball anymore.

[MultiTroll]

What will they say after the Browns eliminate the Ravens from Playoffs ❓️


They won't say shit. Then we will get late in the season next season when the Ravens have a good record and they start pushing Jackson again. Then he will fail again. Rinse repeat until he gets that injury running the ball that leaves him unable to monkey ball anymore.
2 phaggots bookmarked.

[FrostKing]

2 phaggots bookmarked.
:lol what is the meaning of this lash out

[FrostKing]

They won't say shit. Then we will get late in the season next season when the Ravens have a good record and they start pushing Jackson again. Then he will fail again. Rinse repeat until he gets that injury running the ball that leaves him unable to monkey ball anymore.
Seemed 49ers D ran the same Hurts playbook and Jackson is better. He should be celebrated and overall is. Best in the NFL off a broken play.

The two best QBs we faced was Lamar & Burrow. Without getting deep into strategy & excuses - we were helpless vs Burrow. In comparison Lamar made highloght reels but those are just 1 flag away from punt. Broken plays draw flags. He also struggled in the red zone.

[MultiTroll]

:lol what is the meaning of this lash out
I was lumping you in with Spouty.
My apologiy.

Entirely possible Cleveland can beat the Ravens again. However....
IMO Jackson threw the 2nd game. 100%.

[FrostKing]

I was lumping you in with Spouty.
My apologiy.

Entirely possible Cleveland can beat the Ravens again. However....
IMO Jackson threw the 2nd game. 100%.
:tu

Any team that defeats the #1 seed Ravens would have ticket to ACCCG

I love the Browns wagon but doubt they win 2 Playoff games.

[spurraider21]

Are we really still pretending thar Lamar Jackson can't throw the ball?

I'm just glad we don't have to hear about Brock Purdy and his "elite processing" and how he leads the league in every obscure metric and he's the real MVP, even though we saw jimmy garopposhit literally go to the super bowl and multiple NFC championships in that same offense before it had CMC.

Also just this idea that it takes some big brained genius to successfully be an NFL QB is so fucking overrated, this entire sport is full of some of the biggest dumbasses to ever exist, and plenty of HOF QBs are complete retards. Ohhh if the coverage has deep leverage throw it short, if they have shallow leverage throw it deep, it's so complicated!
yeah SF is something of a machine, but Purdy is playing at a higher level than Jimmy ever did. significantly more successful pushing the ball down the field and its just his first year as a starter...

[FrostKing]

yeah SF is something of a machine, but Purdy is playing at a higher level than Jimmy ever did. significantly more successful pushing the ball down the field and its just his first year as a starter...
Jimmy blew out his knee. Purdy is an elite slider in the pocket. Rarely is sacked and can get better giving up on plays.

[MultiTroll]

Blake, 1st half Jackson is 12-14 and one of those was a clear drop by Bateman.
255 yards, 3 TDs.

I'll come back later and give you some excuse suggestions.

[DAF86]

Blake, 1st half Jackson is 12-14 and one of those was a clear drop by Bateman.
255 yards, 3 TDs.

I'll come back later and give you some excuse suggestions.

No need, guys here already made their heads that if Lamar doesn't win it all, he sucks.

It went from "gimmick QB that will be out of the league in 3 years" to "he won't win the SB". Goal posts have been moved something fierce, tbh. :lol

[spurraider21]

He’s your 2 time mvp

[DAF86]

He’s your 2 time mvp

Unanimous again?

[Donald Sterling.]

No need, guys here already made their heads that if Lamar doesn't win it all, he sucks.

It went from "gimmick QB that will be out of the league in 3 years" to "he won't win the SB". Goal posts have been moved something fierce, tbh. :lol

68.3 passer rating, 3 TD's, 5 INT's in the playoffs :lol

He's definitely not an NFL caliber starter when it counts :lol

#Figuredout

[Millennial_Messiah]

Unanimous again?

No

The Eagles losing and Dallas winning (assuming they win next week) I think Prescott is the favorite. Even after Jackson's 5/0 today, Prescott's 32 TD / 8 INT is still far superior to Jackson's 24 TD / 7 INT. Prescott also has about a thousand more passing yards. Jackson has a few hundred more rushing yards, but it's nothing like 2019, either from a running or passing standpoint. Baltimore has an amazing overall run game and a much better defense than Dallas.

Yes, 13-3 or 13-4 is better than 12-5, but Dallas has had literally no run game all year and the defense has taken a big step back as well due to the injuries suffered early in the season. Also, I think we can all agree that Mike McCarthy is a fat joke who can't manage the clock to save his life while the Harbaughs are among the best coaches in football.

[DAF86]

No

The Eagles losing and Dallas winning (assuming they win next week) I think Prescott is the favorite. Even after Jackson's 5/0 today, Prescott's 32 TD / 8 INT is still far superior to Jackson's 24 TD / 7 INT. Prescott also has about a thousand more passing yards. Jackson has a few hundred more rushing yards, but it's nothing like 2019, either from a running or passing standpoint. Baltimore has an amazing overall run game and a much better defense than Dallas.

Yes, 13-3 or 13-4 is better than 12-5, but Dallas has had literally no run game all year and the defense has taken a big step back as well due to the injuries suffered early in the season. Also, I think we can all agree that Mike McCarthy is a fat joke who can't manage the clock to save his life while the Harbaughs are among the best coaches in football.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

It would take a homer of your proportions for Lamar not to win the MVP unanimously, tbh. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

It would take a homer of your proportions for Lamar not to win the MVP unanimously, tbh. :lol
What makes Jackson the MVP this year over Prescott, or Mccaffrey/Hill for that matter?

His stats for the whole year aren't even that impressive. Absolutely night and day compared to 2019 where he was absolutely the best regular season player in the NFL and the stats showed.

Sure he played for the best regular season team this year, but they also have a top 5 coach, top 5 defense and top 3 running game even if you take out the quarterback runs.

Dallas has the 27th ranked running offense and a defense that's barely above middle of the pack.

Prescott has 32 TDs, 8 INTs, and 4,237 passing yards.

Jackson has 24 TDs, 7 INTs, and 3,357 passing yards.

Both teams won their division and have a Top 2 seed in their respective conference.

Don't let recency bias, strength of schedule BS get in your head.

Dak Prescott is your 2023-24 MVP, unless you want to give it to McCaffrey which I wouldn't be against.

[DAF86]

Taking away Lamar's rushing stats out of the equation. :lol Even the Ravens' rushing stats as a whole are a direct indicator of Lamar's impact on opossing defenses, because of the read option, even if he isn't the one running the ball.

There's literally 0 % chance Lamar doesn't win the MVP. We can bet on it if you want, if not just stay quiet, tbh.

[monosylab1k]

Lamar is 100% the MVP and deserves every bit of the glory. He’s incredible. The Patriots are idiots to not offer him a contract when he was available in the summer. Believing you have a better shot with Mac Jones :lmao. Lamar is fantastic and he is incredibly fun to watch.

He’s also a lock to choke in the playoffs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lamar put it to bed today. Dak and Tua suck against good teams, Josh sucks against bad teams, Hill won’t get to 2,000 and Purdy—although wildly overachieving—is still just a cog.

It was between Lamar and CMC until today

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lamar put it to bed today. Dak and Tua suck against good teams, Josh sucks against bad teams, Hill won’t get to 2,000 and Purdy—although wildly overachieving—is still just a cog.

It was between Lamar and CMC until today

Huh? We just beat the Lions. It's not our fault we got the majority of tough opponents on the road this year and the Eagles got them at home. Like with global warming, it's the cycle, not caused by humans, not even Goodell as much as I hate him.

We were a perfect 8-0 at home and about to be 10-0 and make the Championship game and give the Niners a tough fight in SF, probably lose by one score in the championship game but who knows.

Dak's stats are the best out of any QB in the NFL. Any argument for Jackson is 100% recency bias. Strength of schedule is also extremely overrated, and Jackson's stats in his division games have been pretty dismal this year actually. You play the teams in front of you. It's a team game. Also, the QB plays the enemy defense, not the enemy QB. Let's not sit around and pretend Miami or the Niners have elite defenses, especially Miami on the road this year-- it's been dismal.

Hill fell a bit short late in the year, but absolutely I wouldn't have a problem with McCaffrey winning it. It shouldn't just be a QB award and, apart from Dak, no QB had a statistically great year, and even Dak's year was not jaw dropping like say Aaron Rodgers in 2011/2020, Peyton in 2013 or Drew Brees in 2011.

[DAF86]

Huh? We just beat the Lions. It's not our fault we got the majority of tough opponents on the road this year and the Eagles got them at home. Like with global warming, it's the cycle, not caused by humans, not even Goodell as much as I hate him.

We were a perfect 8-0 at home and about to be 10-0 and make the Championship game and give the Niners a tough fight in SF, probably lose by one score in the championship game but who knows.

Dak's stats are the best out of any QB in the NFL. Any argument for Jackson is 100% recency bias. Strength of schedule is also extremely overrated, and Jackson's stats in his division games have been pretty dismal this year actually. You play the teams in front of you. It's a team game. Also, the QB plays the enemy defense, not the enemy QB. Let's not sit around and pretend Miami or the Niners have elite defenses, especially Miami on the road this year-- it's been dismal.

Hill fell a bit short late in the year, but absolutely I wouldn't have a problem with McCaffrey winning it. It shouldn't just be a QB award and, apart from Dak, no QB had a statistically great year, and even Dak's year was not jaw dropping like say Aaron Rodgers in 2011/2020, Peyton in 2013 or Drew Brees in 2011.

Dak should have tried and beat them then. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dak should have tried and beat them then. :lol

Miami at home and Miami away are two polar opposite teams.

As for the Niners, they're banged up AF and it's showed the past few weeks. The double bye (they'll tank the Rams game next week) will be extremely helpful to an ultra physical team like that. Getting them at full strength in week 5 on the road is a scheduled loss; getting them in week 16 when they're banged up and a loss to a non-conference opponent doesn't mean jack squat for tiebreakers is completely different.

What's Lamar Jackson's W-L record and quarterback stats within his own division, vs. Dak's? Every old-school analyst and coach will always tell you it all starts with winning in your division. Please care to share.

[DAF86]

There's literally 0% chance Lamar doesn't win the MVP. We can bet on it if you want, if not just stay quiet, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Everyone’s a “choker” until they aren’t. Elway can’t win. Dirk can’t win. Manning couldn’t win. Stafford.

jackson is awesome. Gets hurt a lot due to style of play. Susceptible to losing in the playoffs just like literally any other qb

[Blake]

Blake, 1st half Jackson is 12-14 and one of those was a clear drop by Bateman.
255 yards, 3 TDs.

I'll come back later and give you some excuse suggestions.

I watched the game, saw 3 one handed grabs by the Ravens including one by the middle linebacker on the INT. Also the sideline catch down field by Odell was phenomenal.

Jackson was phenomenal too. Unless he completely Purdys his next game, he's got the MVP locked up.

But the whole team is phenomenal. Stop trying to down play them.

[MultiTroll]

Jackson was phenomenal too.
Your growth is encouraging.

[Blake]

Your growth is encouraging.

Cool. Now get back to complaining about the rest of the team being shit

[DeadlyDynasty]

Huh? We just beat the Lions.
Who knew Brad Allen posts here?

[Millennial_Messiah]

I watched the game, saw 3 one handed grabs by the Ravens including one by the middle linebacker on the INT. Also the sideline catch down field by Odell was phenomenal.

Jackson was phenomenal too. Unless he completely Purdys his next game, he's got the MVP locked up.

But the whole team is phenomenal. Stop trying to down play them.

He won't even play. They will be playing their backup oline and resting their top defensive players too.

Same goes for said Purdy and the Niners top players in a meaningless week 18.


Who knew Brad Allen posts here?
Retarded schtick that needs to die already. Campbell tried to pull the Belicheat 2014 Baltimore AFCDG play and got caught. If you're better than a team you beat them with your base offense, not a trick play for the win. Plus, there were 23 seconds left and Dallas has the best kicker in football with the longest leg, so 1-2 completions and a timeout; plus, those same refs gave Detroit a huge gift on the last Dallas drive with that terrible 15 yard tripping call that even gave Detroit that last possession in the first place.

So, you conspiretards who think the Detroit/Dallas game was somehow rigged in favor of Dallas can go back and fuck your mother some more.

Also, I thought you were a Buffalo fan... why'd you bandwagon to KC? KC stinks this year. :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

He won't even play. They will be playing their backup oline and resting their top defensive players too.

Same goes for said Purdy and the Niners top players in a meaningless week 18.


Retarded schtick that needs to die already. Campbell tried to pull the Belicheat 2014 Baltimore AFCDG play and got caught. If you're better than a team you beat them with your base offense, not a trick play for the win. Plus, there were 23 seconds left and Dallas has the best kicker in football with the longest leg, so 1-2 completions and a timeout; plus, those same refs gave Detroit a huge gift on the last Dallas drive with that terrible 15 yard tripping call that even gave Detroit that last possession in the first place.

So, you conspiretards who think the Detroit/Dallas game was somehow rigged in favor of Dallas can go back and fuck your mother some more.

Also, I thought you were a Buffalo fan... why'd you bandwagon to KC? KC stinks this year. :lol
Oh, so the crew was downgraded for the playoffs without cause? Thanks for clarifying:lol

If the refs didn't rule in Dallas' favor you'd have started 10 or so meltdown threads where you fingerpaint with your own feces, per usual

[Mark Celibate]

:lol my hunch was correct, Dan Campbell admitted he tried to confuse Dallas on who was eligible but ended up confusing the refs instead
:lol dumb meathead trying to pull a Bellichick and failing miserably

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dan-campbell-admits-lions-tried-to-confuse-cowboys-as-to-who-was-eligible-on-two-point-play

the more he talks, the more he makes the decision look even dumber...he even admits that the refs ID'ed 70 as eligible before the play but he was out of timeouts so he couldn't do anything. :lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol my hunch was correct, Dan Campbell admitted he tried to confuse Dallas on who was eligible but ended up confusing the refs instead
:lol dumb meathead trying to pull a Bellichick and failing miserably

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dan-campbell-admits-lions-tried-to-confuse-cowboys-as-to-who-was-eligible-on-two-point-play

the more he talks, the more he makes the decision look even dumber...he even admits that the refs ID'ed 70 as eligible before the play but he was out of timeouts so he couldn't do anything. :lmao
Is the stanky leg coming to Vegas this year? Eagles swung that door wide open

[Bill_Brasky]

Dak aint the MVP. A win against the Bills would have done it and he shit his panties. I still root for the dude though.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol my hunch was correct, Dan Campbell admitted he tried to confuse Dallas on who was eligible but ended up confusing the refs instead
:lol dumb meathead trying to pull a Bellichick and failing miserably

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dan-campbell-admits-lions-tried-to-confuse-cowboys-as-to-who-was-eligible-on-two-point-play

the more he talks, the more he makes the decision look even dumber...he even admits that the refs ID'ed 70 as eligible before the play but he was out of timeouts so he couldn't do anything. :lmao

Yeah that was on the Lions getting too cute. I think people saying the refs handed Dallas the game would not have any sympathy for Dallas if the refs had announced the wrong guy as eligible and then not thrown a flag.

[Fabbs]

Yeah that was on the Lions getting too cute. I think people saying the refs handed Dallas the game would not have any sympathy for Dallas if the refs had announced the wrong guy as eligible and then not thrown a flag.
Would have been an absolute rip off of Dallas too.
Of course they didn't cover #68. He was ineligible per incompetent ref.

Notice how fast old man ref runs (walks quickly) away from all 3 Detroit lineman. He was walking towards the Cowboys before 68 and 2nd lineman even reached him.
Not talking about #70 the third lineman. Old Man Ref had bounced long before he came running over.

[Mark Celibate]

Is the stanky leg coming to Vegas this year? Eagles swung that door wide open

49ers have their number, so really no chance but I do think this is their best chance in a long time to break the NFC Championship Game appearance drought considering they've been "stuntin on n1ggas" at home the past few seasons and there's no other team in the NFC that they shouldn't beat at home. If that happens, 'soulja boy up in this ho' will be blaring around the clock at every bar/restaurant in Addison, Uptown, Deep Ellum etc. It would be typical for the Cuckboys to lose to some random 9-8 team in the NFC Divisional round though :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

49ers have their number, so really no chance but I do think this is their best chance in a long time to break the NFC Championship Game appearance drought considering they've been "stuntin on n1ggas" at home the past few seasons and there's no other team in the NFC that they shouldn't beat at home. If that happens, 'soulja boy up in this ho' will be blaring around the clock at every bar/restaurant in Addison, Uptown, Deep Ellum etc. It would be typical for the Cuckboys to lose to some random 9-8 team in the NFC Divisional round though :lol

Correct. Getting to the NFC champ game and losing to the 9ers would be a normal 12 win team. This is a Cowboys 12 win team. More likely to lose to Baker Mayfield or some shit.

If they win on Sunday it will be 12 wins for 3 years in a row. Pretty much every team that has done that has had a deep playoff run during one of those seasons. Failing to reach the conference title game would be pretty massive disappointment.

[Mark Celibate]

Correct. Getting to the NFC champ game and losing to the 9ers would be a normal 12 win team. This is a Cowboys 12 win team. More likely to lose to Baker Mayfield or some shit.

If they win on Sunday it will be 12 wins for 3 years in a row. Pretty much every team that has done that has had a deep playoff run during one of those seasons. Failing to reach the conference title game would be pretty massive disappointment.

When you think of how bad their division has been for a little over a decade now, it's almost an unfathomable level of consistent mediocrity to not be able to string together one or two playoff wins in a row to make the NFCCG during that whole time

[MultiTroll]

Dalvin Cook got any juice left?

On Ravens now.

[FrostKing]

Dalvin Cook got any juice left?

On Ravens now.
Sadly doesn't seem like it but should be good for some big play highlights

Lamar & Dalvin are ACC superstars from the 2010s.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Blake]

:lol

Bookmarked for your future crow serving.

:tu

[DAF86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFLAVyTWIAACxbm?format=jpg&name=small

Not trying to defend Lamar, just pointing out how overrated Burrow is, tbh.