Red Planet of Derrick White

[Kobe'sAchilles]

He's played well at the toughest position in the NBA, with limited experience. Saying so isn't crowning his ass. I still think Pop gives Murray his starting spot back, also allows for White to have a chance to be the primary playmaker for long stretches off the bench. Think they'll both end up playing around 28 mpg next season so it may be moot to worry about who's starting and who's coming off the bench.

The dude is a known White hater. Probably upset that Spurs fans are cheering for a guard not named Ginobili tbh. Dude is quiet everytime White has a good game and then shows up when he has a poor one and spouts his bs. "It's too early to crown him" :cry "We shouldn't be excited about our second year player who is performing better than anybody expected him" :cry "it's too soon to crown him" :cry

we have a horrible record without him and a great record with him playing. He is our best defender and also our best distributor. He should be on the All-NBA defense team this year. And he's only going to get better. But yeah we should "temper our excitement" :cry

[SpurPadre]

The dude is a known White hater. Probably upset that Spurs fans are cheering for a guard not named Ginobili tbh. Dude is quiet everytime White has a good game and then shows up when he has a poor one and spouts his bs. "It's too early to crown him" :cry "We shouldn't be excited about our second year player who is performing better than anybody expected him" :cry "it's too soon to crown him" :cry

we have a horrible record without him and a great record with him playing. He is our best defender and also our best distributor. He should be on the All-NBA defense team this year. And he's only going to get better. But yeah we should "temper our excitement" :cry

1-5 shooting against the fucking Knicks, motherfucker. ��
:lmao

But yeah, "Let me suck his dick, please," STFU with that shit. White is good, he's indispensable to this team right now but blindly sucking his cock at all costs and throwing Murray under the bus in the process is fucking stupid. Let's be glad we have both of them but neither of them has a secured spot in the starting lineup next season.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

A Manu fan whining about who starts. Smh. Btw White may not start next year like you say but he sure as hell is going to be finishing games. "I'm really his fan guys even though I never say anything positive about him w/o shitting all over him first." :cry

Unlike you, I really am excited to have both players on our team. They compliment each other quite well and they both will be a terror defensively. White actually knows how to shoot the ball and move without which really helps. DJ is nowhere near White's level on offense but I'm not worried about that. His defense and ability to get to the rim will greatly help our team. But if he doesn't learn how to shoot or finish at the rim (instead of taking those stupid floaters) then Derrick will be the starter and finisher.

Luckily for us, DJ is a gym rat who is itching to improve his jumper and prove himself as a great player in the league. I have high hopes for him as well.

[timtonymanu]

The dude is a known White hater. Probably upset that Spurs fans are cheering for a guard not named Ginobili tbh. Dude is quiet everytime White has a good game and then shows up when he has a poor one and spouts his bs. "It's too early to crown him" :cry "We shouldn't be excited about our second year player who is performing better than anybody expected him" :cry "it's too soon to crown him" :cry

we have a horrible record without him and a great record with him playing. He is our best defender and also our best distributor. He should be on the All-NBA defense team this year. And he's only going to get better. But yeah we should "temper our excitement" :cry

:lol tbh

But it’s fine to hype up Murray last season, because he grabbed rebounds and therefore earned his starting spot, even though he himself still has a lot to prove. Not a Murray hater, but it’s like if I did the same thing to Murray last year after he had a bad game while leaving White of any criticism. Double standard much.

[XDT76]

He's played well at the toughest position in the NBA, with limited experience. Saying so isn't crowning his ass. I still think Pop gives Murray his starting spot back, also allows for White to have a chance to be the primary playmaker for long stretches off the bench. Think they'll both end up playing around 28 mpg next season so it may be moot to worry about who's starting and who's coming off the bench.

Seeing that the SL has DDR to share playmaking duties I also think that it is more beneficial for the team if White runs the second team and then for both to close the game.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1107090467752161281

[WallyTiger]

His forehead made him smart? or his smart made his forehead big?

[spursistan]

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That's 31-13 with yesterday's win..Dude's emergence saved the Spurs' season..

[John B]

I don’t want to rain on White’s parade, but Poeltl’s rim protection, rebounding and defense also helped

[DJR210]

You guys think White gets some All-NBA Defensive Team consideration this year? I know the rebounding numbers made it easy to spotlight Murray, but damn this dude is moving his feet and hands well..

[r0drig0lac]

You guys think White gets some All-NBA Defensive Team consideration this year? I know the rebounding numbers made it easy to spotlight Murray, but damn this dude is moving his feet and hands well..

no doubt, he will be a 1st team all defense

[DJR210]

no doubt, he will be a 1st team all defense

Who votes on this? Coaches?

[r0drig0lac]

Who votes on this? Coaches?

The NBA All-Defensive Team is an annual National Basketball Association (NBA) honor given since the 1968–69 NBA season to the best defensive players during the regular season. The All-Defensive Team is generally composed of ten players in two five-man lineups, a first and a second team. Voting is conducted by a panel of 123 writers and broadcasters.[1] Prior to the 2013–14 NBA season, voting was performed by the NBA head coaches, who were restricted from voting for players on their own team.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if he gets all defense 1st? then lol murray supporters

[8FOR!3]

I doubt he will get 1st team, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets all 2nd team. Idk, I just don't think he will get the credit he deserves it's his first year of being an established name.

[r0drig0lac]

except PG13 and Giannis, no player is really standing out in this season (especially among the guards), ironically Duncan did not receive the dpoy prize but other players on the team receive a spur status, so I do not really see White out of the all-D team (his defensive skill is probably the best among the active guards currently in the league, the eye test says this, and people are watching).

[DJR210]

except PG13 and Giannis, no player is really standing out in this season (especially among the guards), ironically Duncan did not receive the dpoy prize but other players on the team receive a spur status, so I do not really see White out of the all-D team (his defensive skill is probably the best among the active guards currently in the league, the eye test says this, and people are watching).

With them on this streak the national media is gonna start covering how you "can't count out Pop and the Spurs" per usual.. Some strong defensive performances from White now will definitely help his case

[look_at_g_shred]

Writers should have taken notice of White's defense the night he was shutting nephew down.

[Trill Clinton]

if he gets all defense 1st? then lol murray supporters

Can someone explain the Murray vs white thing here?

[exstatic]

Can someone explain the Murray vs white thing here?

Good luck with that. No one has satisfactorily explained Manu vs. Parker yet.

[Trill Clinton]

Good luck with that. No one has satisfactorily explained Manu vs. Parker yet.

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.

[BD24]

no doubt, he will be a 1st team all defense
Although he probably deserves first team I see 2nd team being more likely. He doesn’t have eye popping steal numbers that the media looks for imo

[John B]

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.
Can’t wait for Lonnie to get in the picture :hungry:

[exstatic]

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.

Shaq and Kobe wasn't just between the two of them...

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Where's SpurPadre at? I need him to tell me how shitty White was in guarding Klay last night bc my expectations are sky high for the kid.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I never saw Murray display anything close to White's court vision last year. To me, they're two completely different players.

The Spurs can have more than one point guard, especially considering one is all they have this year and it sucks not having the reliable backup for White. Mills is a shooting guard trapped in a point guard's body.

[R. DeMurre]

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.


It's easily the worst part of Spurstalk.

[BillMc]

I never saw Murray display anything close to White's court vision last year. To me, they're two completely different players.

The Spurs can have more than one point guard, especially considering one is all they have this year and it sucks not having the reliable backup for White. Mills is a shooting guard trapped in a point guard's body.

Yeah, to a large extent we were hoping to see Murray develop into what White is. Next year will be interesting with Murray having a lot to prove and needing to help the Spurs deciding where and when to play him and what to pay him after the rookie deal. Rich Paul is going to push for big money, Spurs will have to decide what they are willing to pay. It might be a conflict if White has eaten into Murray's playing time. High drama ahead. But a good problem to have.

[spursistan]

Is White on minutes restriction because of his plantar issues? not sure why he is not playing 32-36 minutes like he should when not in foul trouble..He wasn't yesterday and only logged 27 minutes..

Team's D is on completely different level when he is on court..Pop better be having Derrick in the mid 30s of mpg in the playoffs because teams will be abusing Patty/Bryn for fun..

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[picnroll]

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.

Nope. Comparing Spurs players, trashing one compared to another is a genetic defect pass from one generation Spur’s poster to another.

[buttsR4rebounding]

1107834342007410688

That's 31-13 with yesterday's win..Dude's emergence saved the Spurs' season..

The Spurs dismal road record isn't so bad either when White plays 20 minutes or more. The Spurs are 9-10 in such games (4-12 in the others) and that's after a 1-4 start in such games where DDR was the de facto point guard.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Jesus I've never seen a fan base pit their own players against each other. I think the Parker vs Manu era was just silly fun for the most part but continuing it with Murray and white is just dumb.

I can't imagine watching a Spurs game and rooting against my own players smh.


It's even more bizarre than that, because I guarantee you that some of the people post on both sides under different alts.

[DPG21920]

Can someone explain the Murray vs white thing here?

Sure. Most people on the site are dummies. That’s it.

[DAF86]

Can someone explain the Murray vs white thing here?

Some are trolling, but others are making legit comparissons because there are lots of similarities:

-Both drafted 29th.
-Drafted with one year of difference.
-They play the same position.
-They have similar body types (above average height for their position).

Many people think they can play together, but others question the fit (specially alongside DeRozan), so some are worried that Murray will come to take minutes away from White, who is the better player right now.

It's only natural that these comparissons exist, and it has nothing to do with pitting one player against another, it has to do with wanting (what in their minds) is the best thing for the team.

[Drom John]

I doubt he will get 1st team, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets all 2nd team. Idk, I just don't think he will get the credit he deserves it's his first year of being an established name.

ESPN Real Plus Minus DRPM PG

1.79 Marcus Smart
1.47 Chris Paul
1.45 Cory Joseph
1.42 Derrick White
1.30 Lonzo Ball

[JeffDuncan]

Can someone explain the Murray vs white thing here?

It's just faggots doing what faggots do.

[spurraider21]

ESPN Real Plus Minus DRPM PG

1.79 Marcus Smart
1.47 Chris Paul
1.45 Cory Joseph
1.42 Derrick White
1.30 Lonzo Ball
iirc all defensive team just includes 2 "guards" on each team, and doesnt split between PG and SG

[BackHome]

Some are trolling, but others are making legit comparissons because there are lots of similarities:

-Both drafted 29th.
-Drafted with one year of difference.
-They play the same position.
-They have similar body types (above average height for their position).

Many people think they can play together, but others question the fit (specially alongside DeRozan), so some are worried that Murray will come to take minutes away from White, who is the better player right now.

It's only natural that these comparissons exist, and it has nothing to do with pitting one player against another, it has to do with wanting (what in their minds) is the best thing for the team.

Have to disagree with you it’s just full blown retarded to argue/bitch about about who is better when one of those people has not even played one game this season.

[SpurPadre]

Have to disagree with you it’s just full blown retarded to argue/bitch about about who is better when one of those people has not even played one game this season.

THIS. Alot of people here have been throwing Murray under the bus for the sake of pumping up White. They're both going to really rewarding players for us, hopefully for a long time...but let's see how Pop chooses to play them next year. They both have alot of promise for sure but they also still have some flaws that they will surely improve upon, namely their offense.

[BillMc]

Have to disagree with you it’s just full blown retarded to argue/bitch about about who is better when one of those people has not even played one game this season.

I mean it is a discussion forum. So, discussing how two players might or might not fit together when one comes back from injury doesn't seem too out of line to me.

[Maddog]

ESPN Real Plus Minus DRPM PG

1.79 Marcus Smart
1.47 Chris Paul
1.45 Cory Joseph
1.42 Derrick White
1.30 Lonzo Ball

Hmm,
Two of those chosen 29th by the Spurs

[buttsR4rebounding]

Hmm,
Two of those chosen 29th by the Spurs

Plus DJM last year. Obviously, system players.

[DPG21920]

The only concern in this “White v Murray” that should exist has nothing to do with Murray. It’s will Mills, Beli and Forbes block minutes for DJ, White and maybe Lonnie.

Spurs need DJ and White. The logjam and concerns aren’t as much DJ v White as much as it is will the one dimensional vets block minutes and create a logjam.

[DPG21920]

And that’s not to say that there aren’t legitimate questions about DJs ceiling or fit. We don’t know if his 3PT shot will be consistent. We don’t know what he will look like physically.

We know White is busting out and needs a big role.

But that’s different than stressing out about where minutes for White will go. He’s fine off ball. DJ has been good off ball too. The real concern about minutes and fit are more with regards to that Pau (he’s gone so problem solved), Mills, Beli and Forbes.

Imo, 1-2 of those 3 need to probably be traded.

[NASpurs]

The only concern in this “White v Murray” that should exist has nothing to do with Murray. It’s will Mills, Beli and Forbes block minutes for DJ, White and maybe Lonnie.

Spurs need DJ and White. The logjam and concerns aren’t as much DJ v White as much as it is will the one dimensional vets block minutes and create a logjam.

I agree with this. Those two aren't exactly competing with one another but with the midget trio of Mills, Beli and Forbes. And Pop might have a hard-on to keep Forbes in the starting lineup next year because he "spreads the floor" on offense especially if Murray doesn't show an improvement in his outside shooting.

That trio needs to be done away with. At least one of those three needs to be moved especially if Lonnie is given a chance next year. (*edit* just saw your following post, exactly my thoughts)

*edit*

And I haven't even mentioned our two first round draft picks next year. You know they're probably going to draft a couple of SFs.

[Seventyniner]

But that’s different than stressing out about where minutes for White will go. He’s fine off ball. DJ has been good off ball too. The real concern about minutes and fit are more with regards to that Pau (he’s gone so problem solved), Mills, Beli and Forbes.

Imo, 1-2 of those 3 need to probably be traded.

I agree. At the very least, one of Mills and Forbes has to go. They are too redundant to keep both with so many other guards needing minutes. Beli might be able to carve out a role as the biggest guard in a 3-guard bench unit.

I just think Pop sold out for offense this season given his roster and Murray's injury. With Murray coming back and White coming into his own, the Spurs should have a better balance between offense and defense next season.

A White/Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge/Poeltl lineup would seriously lack spacing, but it would remind me of the grit-and-grind Grizz teams.

[vander]

Dont need to get rid of Mills/Belli/Forbes. Plenty of minutes for Murray next year just by reducing thier minutes. And then Forbes/Belli contracts are up, and only one more year for Mills.

Mills getting only 10 minutes per game next year will be great

[TheRemix]

Is White on minutes restriction because of his plantar issues? not sure why he is not playing 32-36 minutes like he should when not in foul trouble..He wasn't yesterday and only logged 27 minutes..

Team's D is on completely different level when he is on court..Pop better be having Derrick in the mid 30s of mpg in the playoffs because teams will be abusing Patty/Bryn for fun..

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Amazing.

[spurraider21]

i dont even think white vs murray is the question. its really if murray and derozan can blend

[R. DeMurre]

White and Bertans are both really interesting from a statistical angle: both have what would be considered average PERs (15.32 and 13.51) but both excel in advanced stats like OnCourt & On/off: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2019.html

(Aldridge and DeRozan are the opposite: high PERs, and relatively low OnCourt & On/Off numbers.)

I noticed another player who fits this profile: Nemanja Bjelica of Sacramento. His PER is 15.14-- again, very average for the league, but he leads all Kings players in both the OnCourt & On/Off stats. In Sacramento though, there's a lot of the chatter about how Marvin Bagley should start and get more minutes, which is likely to happen next year. I think when a team like the Spurs don't have a lot of money left to chase free agents, these are exactly the kind of players to target for trades. Bjelica is very similar to Bertans, shooting 40% from three, but with a better 2pt% and slightly more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks per. In the right situations, they'd be a 6'10" version of the Splash Brothers.

[DAF86]

White and Bertans are both really interesting from a statistical angle: both have what would be considered average PERs (15.32 and 13.51) but both excel in advanced stats like OnCourt & On/off: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2019.html

(Aldridge and DeRozan are the opposite: high PERs, and relatively low OnCourt & On/Off numbers.)

I noticed another player who fits this profile: Nemanja Bjelica of Sacramento. His PER is 15.14-- again, very average for the league, but he leads all Kings players in both the OnCourt & On/Off stats. In Sacramento though, there's a lot of the chatter about how Marvin Bagley should start and get more minutes, which is likely to happen next year. I think when a team like the Spurs don't have a lot of money left to chase free agents, these are exactly the kind of players to target for trades. Bjelica is very similar to Bertans, shooting 40% from three, but with a better 2pt% and slightly more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks per. In the right situations, they'd be a 6'10" version of the Splash Brothers.

PER is greatly influenced by USG %, the higher the USG% the better you are expected to do on PER. Since White, Bertans and Bjelica are just role players, their PER numbers aren't going to be all that great.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He might be one of the next cornerstone Spurs. Pretty impressive development so far. A chance to be a pretty special player.

[R. DeMurre]

PER is greatly influenced by USG %, the higher the USG% the better you are expected to do on PER. Since White, Bertans and Bjelica are just role players, their PER numbers aren't going to be all that great.

True, but there are also anomalies like Marjanovic, Whiteside, Kenneth Faried, etc... guys who are role players whose high PERs exaggerate their real value.

[skin27]

He sucked tonight

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Pop keeps playing these stupid fucking mind games with him like he's Danny Green. Benching him for one mistake, while that scrub mills gets a train ran on him and closes in crunch time.

[Down Under]

And that’s not to say that there aren’t legitimate questions about DJs ceiling or fit. We don’t know if his 3PT shot will be consistent. We don’t know what he will look like physically.

We know White is busting out and needs a big role.

But that’s different than stressing out about where minutes for White will go. He’s fine off ball. DJ has been good off ball too. The real concern about minutes and fit are more with regards to that Pau (he’s gone so problem solved), Mills, Beli and Forbes.

Imo, 1-2 of those 3 need to probably be traded.
It should be Beli tbh. Mills is never getting traded, they talk about him embodying the culture of the Spurs more than anyone & he's playing pretty well (even better it was strictly against other benches). Beli wouldn't have too many more years left in the league with him becoming close to unplayable defensively.

[SpursDynasty85]

It should be Beli tbh. Mills is never getting traded, they talk about him embodying the culture of the Spurs more than anyone & he's playing pretty well (even better it was strictly against other benches). Beli wouldn't have too many more years left in the league with him becoming close to unplayable defensively.

Agree. Pretty sure there would be a lot of teams interested in Belli. Hopefully he goes East.

[Mr. Body]

Trading Marco. :lol

[Down Under]

Beli will get a tribute video imo

[Jsmythe]

This article about Derrick White just came out today:

Derrick White Has Made Himself a Star
https://fansided.com/2019/03/25/derrick-white-spurs-nba-star/

It talks about his journey to get to the NBA.

[SpursDynasty85]

Trading Marco. :lol

Would you agree that White, DJ, Mills, Forbes, and DeRozan deserve time over Belli. Question next is doesnt Lonnie deserve some time? Bertans can play some back SF too so not much playing time to go around. I think Pop knows it might be time for the younger guys now.

[spurraider21]

Would you agree that White, DJ, Mills, Forbes, and DeRozan deserve time over Belli. Question next is doesnt Lonnie deserve some time? Bertans can play some back SF too so not much playing time to go around. I think Pop knows it might be time for the younger guys now.
you're missing his point. its not that he doesnt want marco traded. its that he knows pop will not trade marco. its the same thing we saw with matt bonner, tony parker, patty mills. pop has his favorites. marco is one of them

[SpursDynasty85]

you're missing his point. its not that he doesnt want marco traded. its that he knows pop will not trade marco. its the same thing we saw with matt bonner, tony parker, patty mills. pop has his favorites. marco is one of them

Ok. Then if we agree on all the above than we know Pop has things to consider. George Hill was his favorote too.

[slick'81]

Ok. Then if we agree on all the above than we know Pop has things to consider. George Hill was his favorote too.


Yes but nobody is offering us leonard for mills

[SpursDynasty85]

Yes but nobody is offering us leonard for mills

Well yea. A 24 year old George Hill was more valuable to us than a 32 year old Belinelli is now. Especially since we needed all the firepower we could back then. We have a sincere need for more length and athleticism at the 3 and 4 and we have a glut of pgs and sgs. I think it's an obvious play RC and Pop will consider. He will look at all options and choose wisely. Belli has a great market for lots of teams on his 1 year $7M. The only thing I can think of is that Spurs garaunteed him, by mouth, they wouldnt trade him, which is a possibility but there will be some pressure to alleviate our gaurd bottleneck by next year since Forbes and White have emerged.

[RC_Drunkford]

White needs to add some muscle and get better at finishing at the rim. He had a bunch of drives where he didn't score or got blocked recently

[spursistan]

We are getting swept in the first round this dude hits the rookie wall, which seems like what he's been doing the last week or so..(his shot has deserted him in this entire month)

[timtonymanu]

Amazing player that the team literally goes to shit when he struggles. Horrible game today, but he isn't getting paid 13 million like some other POS backup PG who also went 0 for 10 today.

[TDMVPDPOY]

and ppl thinking that instagram faggot is better then white? hahahaha

[mystargtr34]

:lol at the thought of DeJounte Murray leading any team to an NBA playoff win.

[JeffDuncan]

and ppl thinking that instagram faggot is better then white? hahahaha

Shit on you, pal. Seriously. Shit on you.

We want them BOTH, you stupid brain damaged asswipe.

Get your head on straight, you stupid shit head.

Great hard-nosed game by White.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Shit on you, pal. Seriously. Shit on you.

We want them BOTH, you stupid brain damaged asswipe.

Get your head on straight, you stupid shit head.

Great hard-nosed game by White.

lol player fan

[ZeusWillJudge]

I liked his emotion after that dunk.
https://www.ewmadvisors.com/sites/default/files/users/ewmadvisors2/Marvin%20the%20Martian.png

[BD24]

The big ass balls on this dude :worthy:

[BD24]

Shit on you, pal. Seriously. Shit on you.

We want them BOTH, you stupid brain damaged asswipe.

Get your head on straight, you stupid shit head.

Great hard-nosed game by White.
This tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

actions speak louder then instagram pics

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4FvxNyWsAISZMN.jpg:large

[NASpurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfUJw1uvD8

[Immortal Spur]

every time i see White play I think of him as what Ginobili would've been like if he were tamed

[phxspurfan]

White definitely going for the Throne, he can taste it

[ceperez]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4FiyBbWAAAdwqQ.jpg:large

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqEEyUAE04

[K...]

If white could get the refs respect on offense, it could easily make him a near star player and make him a reliable scorer. He's got some great off balance drive ability. He's not going to become a great shooter, but an all around score first PG would be great.

[boutons_deux]

I actually prefer players to keep their anger down and their look-at-me show-business celebrations off, but that where the NBA business has descended to.

[bluebellmaniac]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4FiyBbWAAAdwqQ.jpg:large

We're going to need a high quality, drop box version of this for getting posters made.

[TimmyBuckets]

Clutch plays from White. Who would've thought that nephew fucks up the last play of the game and White steals it for the win?

[R. DeMurre]

There's a great stand up routine from Bill Burr about how awkward the limo ride must have been for the Nazis in the car with Hilter after Jesse Owens kicked the collective asses of all the German runners in the '36 Berlin Olympics... I imagine there's a similar feeling among all the naysayers here at spursalk, having to slink back to celebrate a team, coach, and GM they have only talked trash about for months.

[benefactor]

There's a great stand up routine from Bill Burr about how awkward the limo ride must have been for the Nazis in the car with Hilter after Jesse Owens kicked the collective asses of all the German runners in the '36 Berlin Olympics... I imagine there's a similar feeling among all the naysayers here at spursalk, having to slink back to celebrate a team, coach, and GM they have only talked trash about for months.
That's a great bit...I love Bill. My favorite is still him talking about losing his shit on his girlfriend while building something from IKEA.

"I thought you were going to your mothers!"

[R. DeMurre]

That's a great bit...I love Bill. My favorite is still him talking about losing his shit on his girlfriend while building something from IKEA.

"I thought you were going to your mothers!"

:lol

[Rusty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7hHmVa_0d4

MVWhite

[Seventyniner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqEEyUAE04

:lol that slow-mo MF bomb from Augustin at the very end

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4E5e2dWkAAF1MG.jpg:large

[Mugen]

crofl @ Chimezie's shirt

[ace3g]

crofl @ Chimezie's shirt

Yeah, was going to comment on that, lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

gotto love the enrique/murray player fans trying to shift the hate to nephew, when compared to whatever white does on the court...

a all defensive 2nd team selection and first round win>>> whatever murray has done so far..

the future is here, not some instagram clown

[Babyboy]

"gotto love the enrique/murray player fans trying to shift the hate to nephew, when compared to whatever white does on the court...

a all defensive 2nd team selection and first round win>>> whatever murray has done so far..

the future is here, not some instagram clown"

Murray already has a first round win and a defensive team under his belt lol, plus its not a competition they will be our back court for years to come

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krFPANlOTJc

[Mugen]

The only debate between DWhite and Dejounte is Murray's age.

If you take away Dejounte's injury, DWhite being older, etc.....and just compare to DWhite's play this season to Dejounte last season in a vacuum....it's no contest....Derrick is a far superior player in pretty every facet of the game.....

[spurraider21]

The only debate between DWhite and Dejounte is Murray's age.

If you take away Dejounte's injury, DWhite being older, etc.....and just compare to DWhite's play this season to Dejounte last season in a vacuum....it's no contest....Derrick is a far superior player in pretty every facet of the game.....
are people really disputing that white is currently better than murray?

[FkLA]

are people really disputing that white is currently better than murray?

lol yes

[J_Paco]

are people really disputing that white is currently better than murray?

Yeah, the idiots that can't accept both guys on the squad. I wonder if Denver fans have stupid arguments about who is better between Jamal Murray, Gary Harris & Malik Beasley?
Or (like a rational, thoughtful fan) they are happy to have trio of talented, young guards with upside?

You know, like the Spurs could have next year with DeJounte, Derrick & Lonnie.....

Nope, let's waste time & energy on who someone (on the internet) perceives as the "better" player....

And of course a healthy, active player is better than an injured player.....

[BillMc]

Yeah, the idiots that can't accept both guys on the squad. I wonder if Denver fans have stupid arguments about who is better between Jamal Murray, Gary Harris & Malik Beasley?
Or (like a rational, thoughtful fan) they are happy to have trio of talented, young guards with upside?

You know, like the Spurs could have next year with DeJounte, Derrick & Lonnie.....

Nope, let's waste time & energy on who someone (on the internet) perceives as the "better" player....

And of course a healthy, active player is better than an injured player.....

Absolutely agree with your sentiment that it is good to have all these young guards. But, it is natural to wonder (and discuss on a team forum) how they will fit together. Especially since we've seen so little of White and Murray together before. Last year, White was mainly in the Dleague, this year Murray is out.

So, the natural questions are:

1) Can they play together in the starting lineup?

And, if not, then...

2) Who should go to the bench?

Nothing wrong, in my view, with having those discussions on a site made for such debates.

[TimmyBuckets]

Derozan is ball heavy, then there's White who makes plays with the ball, and Murray who was being groomed as PG of the future. Usage-wise, idk how all 3 can play together, but I would still love to see them in the same lineup just for the defense alone.

[J_Paco]

Absolutely agree with your sentiment that it is good to have all these young guards. But, it is natural to wonder (and discuss on a team forum) how they will fit together. Especially since we've seen so little of White and Murray together before. Last year, White was mainly in the Dleague, this year Murray is out.

So, the natural questions are:

1) Can they play together in the starting lineup?

And, if not, then...

2) Who should go to the bench?

Nothing wrong, in my view, with having those discussions on a site made for such debates.

That isn't what is being argued. These people are attempting to start a Manu vs. Tony type fan "rivalry." Which is completely silly, especially when both White and Murray (to a lesser extent) have the physical profile to player either the 1 or 2.

Lonnie is the only true SG, but even he seems to have some potential combo guard skills.

I'm more interested in what happens with all the congestion at the two guard spots. Will someone be traded? Can Lonnie ascend past Marco, Patty & Bryn in the guard rotation?

Will Demar remain a swingman splitting time between SG & SF?

White and Murray have already proven, even if only defensively, that they are NBA caliber guards.

[Mugen]

I think Derozan is firmly a 3 at this point of his career and with the Spurs (though 2 and 3 in the system are pretty interchangeable).....

Barring anything crazy this offseason and any big injuries before the start of next season, I think the following will hold true:
-Derozan and Lamarcus are locked in for the SL. I also think Derrick has played his way into being a lock at starting one of the guard spots.
-That leaves Bryn and Jakob's spots up for grabs IMO.
-Assuming Dejounte is healthy and continues to show progress on his outside shot, I think he should start. Having him start will also minimize the need for Jakob to start as perimeter D should be pretty stout. If Gay is re-signed, we'd be looking at: Murray/White/Derozan/Gay/LMA.....not bad tbh.

I do think that either Bryn or Marco will have to be shipped out to make room for Lonnie. If Lonnie isn't seeing regular minutes by next season, I think that's very bad news for the org because his ceiling is so much higher than Bryn's (what we are seeing from Bryn this last 2 weeks is his ceiling IMO). Marco is on the last year of his deal next season and he won't be hard to move since shooting is something pretty much every team needs.

I'm hoping they can package the first rounders + Marco to move up 3-4 spots in the draft if they like somebody enough. Assuming they re-sign Rudy Gay, we're probably looking at the main rotation of:

SL: Murray / White / Derozan / Gay / LMA
Bench: Patty / Forbes / Walker / Bertans / Poetl / 1st Round combo forward

Depending on how things shake out with the rest of the West teams in the offseason, that team is probably a Top 4-5 seed. Higher if Dejounte/White/Walker take pretty big leaps in their game...

[exstatic]

That isn't what is being argued. These people are attempting to start a Manu vs. Tony type fan "rivalry." Which is completely silly, especially when both White and Murray (to a lesser extent) have the physical profile to player either the 1 or 2.

Lonnie is the only true SG, but even he seems to have some potential combo guard skills.

I'm more interested in what happens with all the congestion at the two guard spots. Will someone be traded? Can Lonnie ascend past Marco, Patty & Bryn in the guard rotation?

Will Demar remain a swingman splitting time between SG & SF?

White and Murray have already proven, even if only defensively, that they are NBA caliber guards.

DeMar played 75% of his minutes at SF this year, according to bbref. White is already a good two way player. DJ really started to blossom towards the end of the year last season, and I can't wait to see his shot, and the two of them paired in the back court. They're going to play holy hell with teams like Portland and Denver, who rely heavily on guard play to score.

[RC_Drunkford]

It will be a luxury to have White and Murray. That means we got a true PG out there that can defend for the entire 48 minutes as well as both playing together and locking down opposing back courts. No more Patty Mills running around like a headless chicken. I also expect the Spurs to add a 3-and-D SF with the MLE

[spurraider21]

lol yes


Yeah, the idiots that can't accept both guys on the squad. I wonder if Denver fans have stupid arguments about who is better between Jamal Murray, Gary Harris & Malik Beasley?
Or (like a rational, thoughtful fan) they are happy to have trio of talented, young guards with upside?

You know, like the Spurs could have next year with DeJounte, Derrick & Lonnie.....

Nope, let's waste time & energy on who someone (on the internet) perceives as the "better" player....

And of course a healthy, active player is better than an injured player.....
which posters, specifically?

[spurraider21]

I think Derozan is firmly a 3 at this point of his career and with the Spurs (though 2 and 3 in the system are pretty interchangeable).....

Barring anything crazy this offseason and any big injuries before the start of next season, I think the following will hold true:
-Derozan and Lamarcus are locked in for the SL. I also think Derrick has played his way into being a lock at starting one of the guard spots.
-That leaves Bryn and Jakob's spots up for grabs IMO.
-Assuming Dejounte is healthy and continues to show progress on his outside shot, I think he should start. Having him start will also minimize the need for Jakob to start as perimeter D should be pretty stout. If Gay is re-signed, we'd be looking at: Murray/White/Derozan/Gay/LMA.....not bad tbh.

I do think that either Bryn or Marco will have to be shipped out to make room for Lonnie. If Lonnie isn't seeing regular minutes by next season, I think that's very bad news for the org because his ceiling is so much higher than Bryn's (what we are seeing from Bryn this last 2 weeks is his ceiling IMO). Marco is on the last year of his deal next season and he won't be hard to move since shooting is something pretty much every team needs.

I'm hoping they can package the first rounders + Marco to move up 3-4 spots in the draft if they like somebody enough. Assuming they re-sign Rudy Gay, we're probably looking at the main rotation of:

SL: Murray / White / Derozan / Gay / LMA
Bench: Patty / Forbes / Walker / Bertans / Poetl / 1st Round combo forward

Depending on how things shake out with the rest of the West teams in the offseason, that team is probably a Top 4-5 seed. Higher if Dejounte/White/Walker take pretty big leaps in their game...
i think a lot of this is true. as much as i like murray (and think that in a vacuum, he and white CAN coexist in the starting unit), i dont know if a SL with murray and derozan will ever work. but hey, if they can figure it out, the sky is the limit.

i think given the options of moving marco/forbes, it absolutely makes more sense to move marco. they're both on the last years of their deals... forbes could be a piece on this team going forward, as a backup combo guard. we saw him play PG early in the season and not shit himself, and we know he's a capable scorer at the 2 (just being asked to play too big a role right now). his presence is just complicated by mills, because they're quite redundant.

[Mugen]

Yeah, you just have to hope that either DWhite or Dejounte becomes a damn good 3pt shooter. Obviously, you put your money on Derrick at this point but Murray showed some improvement already in the preseason...

If those two can coexist, and even thrive, while both taking another step forward in their progression...well then you might have something...especially if Durant leaves the Warriors tbh.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, you just have to hope that either DWhite or Dejounte becomes a damn good 3pt shooter. Obviously, you put your money on Derrick at this point but Murray showed some improvement already in the preseason...

If those two can coexist, and even thrive, while both taking another step forward in their progression...well then you might have something...especially if Durant leaves the Warriors tbh.
white is good enough to at least be a threat if left alone. its really dejounte/derozan thats the issue. one of them needs to be able to shoot. at this point we're banking on murray between those 2 tbh, which is a scary thought. another reason why the kawhi saga was so frustrating. murray/white/kawhi would have easily worked and have been great on both sides of the ball

[Mugen]

white is good enough to at least be a threat if left alone. its really dejounte/derozan thats the issue. one of them needs to be able to shoot. at this point we're banking on murray between those 2 tbh, which is a scary thought. another reason why the kawhi saga was so frustrating. murray/white/kawhi would have easily worked and have been great on both sides of the ball

Replace Derozan and Jakob with Nephew and Danny and the Spurs are probably ringing next year tbh :lol

[exstatic]

Yeah, you just have to hope that either DWhite or Dejounte becomes a damn good 3pt shooter. Obviously, you put your money on Derrick at this point but Murray showed some improvement already in the preseason...

If those two can coexist, and even thrive, while both taking another step forward in their progression...well then you might have something...especially if Durant leaves the Warriors tbh.

White's already a pretty damn good catch and shoot option. He doesn't do it off the bounce, yet, though. That's a much harder shot.

[Mugen]

White's already a pretty damn good catch and shoot option. He doesn't do it off the bounce, yet, though. That's a much harder shot.

Haven't looked at the numbers but he'll need to be 40+ % if Murray/White/Derozan is going to work tbh.

[exstatic]

Haven't looked at the numbers but he'll need to be 40+ % if Murray/White/Derozan is going to work tbh.

Nah. Your real heavy hitters for 3G% come off the bench, like now. If he can hit his career mark of 36%, especially if he can hit from above the break, the lineup can work.

[Mugen]

Nah. Your real heavy hitters for 3G% come off the bench, like now. If he can hit his career mark of 36%, especially if he can hit from above the break, the lineup can work.

Doubt it. Unless you start Davis next to Aldridge.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Replace Derozan and Jakob with Nephew and Danny and the Spurs are probably ringing next year tbh :lol

question is will lma put in the effort, or he going cry about touches again?

[GreekSpursfan]

Replace Derozan and Jakob with Nephew and Danny and the Spurs are probably ringing next year tbh :lol

Who does uncle Dennis replace?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

which posters, specifically?
SpurPadre for some reason thinks White is a scrub who can't do anything better than DJ.

[TDMVPDPOY]

SpurPadre for some reason thinks White is a scrub who can't do anything better than DJ.

his a enrique fan who took the wrong scrub to support, now that scrub is busy being a instagram kent, while the other who has put in work, working his up the rotation into the starting job

[CGD]

white is good enough to at least be a threat if left alone. its really dejounte/derozan thats the issue. one of them needs to be able to shoot. at this point we're banking on murray between those 2 tbh, which is a scary thought. another reason why the kawhi saga was so frustrating. murray/white/kawhi would have easily worked and have been great on both sides of the ball

This is so true. Unless Murray really took a leap forward with his three ball, the spacing will be challenged. They might be able to get away with it if Bert starts, but then that is a lot of pressure on the guards to keep the D in check.

[spurraider21]

This is so true. Unless Murray really took a leap forward with his three ball, the spacing will be challenged. They might be able to get away with it if Bert starts, but then that is a lot of pressure on the guards to keep the D in check.
i actually think this is the way to go, and i've said on more than one occasion that you'd have to swap gay/poeltl for bertans to make that unit work.

as for adding pressure on the guards, i mean i guess thats the point of having dejounte/white in the backcourt. the defensive potential.

[UZER]

I actually prefer players to keep their anger down and their look-at-me show-business celebrations off, but that where the NBA business has descended to.

TBF, that was just pure emotion in the moment. It was a big moment for him playing his first significant minutes in a playoff game. He’s normally very calm and composed.

Look-at-me was the other dude who was dancing around on the missed dunk and his teammates pushing him around like did something.

[Slippy]

Ya it wasnt a stare down like most dunkers like to do. He looked away and got excited about it.

The great White . You are the man.

[DAF86]

Doubt it. Unless you start Davis next to Aldridge.

Well, if you want to have White, Murray, DeRozan and Aldridge all together as starters, the other starter needs to be Bertans almost by default.

[DAF86]

This is so true. Unless Murray really took a leap forward with his three ball, the spacing will be challenged. They might be able to get away with it if Bert starts, but then that is a lot of pressure on the guards to keep the D in check.

Are folks still hanging to the idea that Bertans is some kind of liability on defense? This is the third time in 3 NBA seasons that the Spurs have a better defensive rating with Bertans on the floor than off it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Are folks still hanging to the idea that Bertans is some kind of liability on defense? This is the third time in 3 NBA seasons that the Spurs have a better defensive rating with Bertans on the floor than off it.

bertans for the spurs is like dudley for the k nicks, nothing more then poster boy on t he wrong side of the dunk

[NickiRasgo]

What's the nickname of White? Can we call him KaWhite? :wtf

[JeffDuncan]

What's the nickname of White? Can we call him KaWhite? :wtf

No, please. Anything but that.

[jjktkk]

Does anybody think White's plantar fasciitis injury is effecting his play, and/or the reason Pop isn't playing him more minutes?

[JeffDuncan]

Does anybody think White's plantar fasciitis injury is effecting his play, and/or the reason Pop isn't playing him more minutes?

I've been wondering about that, but I'm neurotic.

[DAF86]

Does anybody think White's plantar fasciitis injury is effecting his play, and/or the reason Pop isn't playing him more minutes?


I've been wondering about that, but I'm neurotic.

Pop just being Pop and refusing to change his substitution patterns untill is too late, tbh.

[UncleDennis]

Pop just being Pop and refusing to change his substitution patterns untill is too late, tbh.

for real, let's hope he doesn't run those no defense line ups out there again for game 3.

[exstatic]

Does anybody think White's plantar fasciitis injury is effecting his play, and/or the reason Pop isn't playing him more minutes?

Yeah, he looked really gimpy when he jammed that ball down Milsap's throat... :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

Does anybody think White's plantar fasciitis injury is effecting his play, and/or the reason Pop isn't playing him more minutes?

No I think Pop is just so hell bent on his rotations and has to put Mills in for him at the 6 minutes mark no matter how good he’s playing. White played 35 minutes literally 4 games after coming back from his injury during the RRT. Absolutely no way in hell Jokic should be playing 7 more minutes than him especially with only one foul.

[RC_Drunkford]

it's actually Mills who's injured


Mills revealed before Game 2 he’s been playing with a hyperextended left thumb since late in the regular season. “It’s OK,” he said. “You really only feel it when you go to pass the ball, or if you catch it on someone or something.” (https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Murray-learning-encouraging-while-rehabbing-from-13773265.php)

Patty Mills is playing with a wrap on his left thumb, which he hyperextended late in the regular season. (https://hoopshype.com/social/) Says it doesn’t really affect him much, usually only when he goes to pass the ball. Said he played much of the season with a similar injury on right hand. “That was worse.”

[objective]

Yeah, he looked really gimpy when he jammed that ball down Milsap's throat... :lol

:lol it's true

Anything to not hold Pop accountable for one of the few things a coach can control in a game: who plays and when. Duncan had PF and played so many damn minutes in playoff game he needed an IV after, it's the playoffs

It might be good that White is injured, because if he was healthy he would have jumped high soaring over Milsapp right up into the shot clock, which would have counted as a turnover

[phxspurfan]

viva Derrick White, cabrones!

[NASpurs]

My man Dawkins is a machine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7Ga9H-m5o

[BillMc]

My man Dawkins is a machine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7Ga9H-m5o

Man that was quick

[hater]

https://twitter.com/andyspell_84/status/1119083886196039681?s=19

[tim_duncan_fan]

Thou shalt have no other gods before Derrick White.

[vander]

https://media.giphy.com/media/clzmYXWjBbuSfwkFyq/giphy.gif

between two big men like they weren't there

[BillMc]

Man the emergence of White makes me more pissed at Nephew. Spurs could have been set for another decade.

[duncan2150]

i remember some people who where not happy about his draft and wanting jordan bell instead......

really happy to see him playing like that

[Dverde]

Teams can’t beat our White privilege.

[NASpurs]

*edit* whoops someone already created a thread on it. Oh well, still leaving this here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iusUh0LhB0w

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Man the emergence of White makes me more pissed at Nephew. Spurs could have been set for another decade.

This and the reality that we drafted Slowpoke over Jokic.

[Dverde]

https://i.imgur.com/LhyRiJ3_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[spurraider21]

This and the reality that we drafted Slowpoke over Jokic.
woah didnt realize jokic went that late.

anderson ended up being a solid pick, but wow...

[DJR210]

He's not going to become a great shooter

For the short term you mean? There is nothing that tells me this kid can't improve his percentages, he already has a good foundation with his current form. Chip will fine tune it w/ him over the next few seasons surely.

[K...]

For the short term you mean? There is nothing that tells me this kid can't improve his percentages, he already has a good foundation with his current form. Chip will fine tune it w/ him over the next few seasons surely.

it'd be a waste making him a curry clone when driving is his best skill. I agree he should try to get the percentages up, there's no reason he couldn't, but it's much easier to get great shooting guys like forbes and mills for cheap, much much harder to find superlative ball handlers and PG. The spurs have a great record finding gary neals, but have struggled to find true backups to parker (and were very lucky that Parker was so durable).

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDO4T7zMsA

[8FOR!3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDO4T7zMsA

Interesting. I actually met Coach Pop in Memphis the last time they played the Grizzlies in the playoffs (last year or the year before I think it was the year before.) Him and some of the coaches were sitting at the bar at some nice steakhouse. I recognized Borrego and some of the training staff and then I saw Pop. Didn't talk to him for more than a minute bc I really didn't want to bother the guy but when you've got an opportunity to meet Coach Pop you do it. Super friendly guy, introduced himself as Gregg lol. Asked where we were from, Spurs lost the night before and Pop said something along the lines of they'd try to get us (well the fans in whole) that win tonight. I'm sure I've shared that experience here before, nothing crazy but it was cool to see that the coaches were friendly and outgoing.

[Keepin' it real]

WTF was that game 4 nonsense? Un-ac-cep-ta-ble.

I DEMAND EXCELLENCE!!!

[Gagnrath]

Well, if you want to have White, Murray, DeRozan and Aldridge all together as starters, the other starter needs to be Bertans almost by default.

Bertans is underrated as a defender honestly.... Where he has issues is bigger traditional power forwards who can just overpower him against guys who like jumpers and people driving he is adequate to good he isn't a first rate rim protector but does provide help when needed. My issue is he is a bit streaky and i worry about his knees.

[TDMVPDPOY]

WTF was that game 4 nonsense? Un-ac-cep-ta-ble.

I DEMAND EXCELLENCE!!!

i only watch t he 1st quarter, thought he did well, then disappeared the whole game...wtf happen

[TDMVPDPOY]

Bertans is underrated as a defender honestly.... Where he has issues is bigger traditional power forwards who can just overpower him against guys who like jumpers and people driving he is adequate to good he isn't a first rate rim protector but does provide help when needed. My issue is he is a bit streaky and i worry about his knees.

on offense he camps further away from the 3pt line,
when he receives the ball to shoot his either to far, or its a last second bail out shot
his putting himself in position to fail, same with the idiots who dont look for him on offense

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's like he is scared to take the reins...

The reins were given to Dejounte but White earned them with his play. He shouldn't be shy.

Guy needs to shoot more.

[KDKSpurs24]

It's like he is scared to take the reins...

The reins were given to Dejounte but White earned them with his play. He shouldn't be shy.

Guy needs to shoot more.
That’s what I’m saying. He doesn’t even want to shoot. He’s wide open pretty often and still doesn’t even take those. That Boris Diaw mentality haha. I think Boris had moments where he was wide open under the goal and passed it.

[J_Paco]

That’s what I’m saying. He doesn’t even want to shoot. He’s wide open pretty often and still doesn’t even take those. That Boris Diaw mentality haha. I think Boris had moments where he was wide open under the goal and passed it.

Or he is just young, inexperienced and his play is uneven and inconsistent at times because of that. He still isn't at the point where he is confident enough to feel like he's the best player on the court.

I don't believe he'll ever reach that elite level, but he definitely has the smarts and skills to become an all-star level performer.

Gotta hope he has a big performance tomorrow night....

[Mugen]

One mistake and that fat koala is sent to the scorer's table to sub in, and people wonder why he's scared to make a mistake sometimes. :lol

[sasaint]

It's like he is scared to take the reins...

The reins were given to Dejounte but White earned them with his play. He shouldn't be shy.

Guy needs to shoot more.

Pop has done a good job of making sure Derrick knows he is behind LMA and Dumbmar in the pecking order.

[cutewizard]

White is our future

Imagine if Durant joiined us, we would be unstoppable

[look_at_g_shred]

One mistake and that fat koala is sent to the scorer's table to sub in, and people wonder why he's scared to make a mistake sometimes. :lol
:lmao

[phxspurfan]

Imagine if Durant joined us, we would be unstoppable

He could switch jerseys with Rudy, no one would notice

[**BUSTA**]

Derek White is a gift. Pop likes to look gift horses in the mouth.

[Keepin' it real]

White trolled the hell out of spurstalk in game 3. You should have seen the optimism in you guys faces. :lmao

[smaka]

Found this on reddit :lol

https://i.imgur.com/co4IuGu.jpg

[RC_Drunkford]

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/05/21/derrick-white-san-antonio-spurs-colorado-parker/

[RD2191]

Found this on reddit :lol

https://i.imgur.com/co4IuGu.jpg

This is disturbing

[r0drig0lac]

all defensive team without White

[spurraider21]

but klay made it? :lol

with a negative rpm? :lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

Not surprising whatsoever tbh.

[look_at_g_shred]

Miss bumping this thread

[Othyus Lalanne]

Found this on reddit :lol

https://i.imgur.com/co4IuGu.jpg

He would look like that if he was a Hun.

[JeffDuncan]

Found this on reddit :lol

https://i.imgur.com/co4IuGu.jpg

If he tries to give you a book about how to serve man, run away.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aliens/images/4/4f/Kanamit.png/revision/latest?cb=20121120113235

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/e2b91f4b19b0a8200755818e5ef7064b.png

[sasaint]

If he tries to give you a book about how to serve man, run away.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aliens/images/4/4f/Kanamit.png/revision/latest?cb=20121120113235

Good one! One of my favorite episodes!

[Dennis the Menace]

https://i.gyazo.com/e2b91f4b19b0a8200755818e5ef7064b.png


Thanks for sharing. Murray and White hitting 3’s at an efficient % will do wonders with spacing and also help Aldridge

[RC_Drunkford]

that's great news. I expect him to put up around 15PPG next season

[spurraider21]

also hearing derozan vows to make at least 500 midrange shots per practice

[sasaint]

also hearing derozan vows to make at least 500 midrange shots per practice

Yep, I believe it.

[KimmyGib]

also hearing derozan vows to shoot at least 500 midrange shots per practice

fify

[ace3g]

BzGcmxrAiYp

[Dverde]

Derrick also got a new picture of his son.
https://i.imgur.com/l9ewK1y_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[CGD]

Derrick also got a new picture of his son.
https://i.imgur.com/l9ewK1y_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Lol

[FkLA]

https://i.gyazo.com/e2b91f4b19b0a8200755818e5ef7064b.png

All work without the instagram hype, tbh. :tu

[acoelho1]

Hype or no hype, all that matters is what happens on the court and Murray and White will ball out next year.

[Pavlov]

All work without the instagram hype, tbh. :tuHow is that really any different? He just "hyped" himself in an interview.

[FkLA]

How is that really any different? He just "hyped" himself in an interview.

source: The Athletic

I really doubt he went up to Jubari and was like "hey I'm making 500 threes per workout, put that out there" which is the equivalent of what IB does.

[TXstbobcat]

Good one! One of my favorite episodes!

Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, To Serve Man, it's... it's a cookbook! :rollin

[Pavlov]

source: The Athletic

I really doubt he went up to Jubari and was like "hey I'm making 500 threes per workout, put that out there" which is the equivalent of what IB does.But he just told him that so he could put it out there.

What's the difference?

[DAF86]

But he just told him that so he could put it out there.

What's the difference?

The difference is being asked.

If you are asked first, you are just politely answering a question. If nobody asks you shit but you are still like "I make 5 millions per year", you are just an obnoxious attention whore.

[DJR210]

Derrick also got a new picture of his son.
https://i.imgur.com/l9ewK1y_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:lol

[timtonymanu]

Happy Birthday, Derrick White. Minus the posters like DensePadre, people know what he’s worth to the Spurs and glad we have him.

[Pavlov]

The difference is being asked.

If you are asked first, you are just politely answering a question. If nobody asks you shit but you are still like "I make 5 millions per year", you are just an obnoxious attention whore.
Uh, did he say he was making a lot of money or just practicing basketball?

[DAF86]

Uh, did he say he was making a lot of money or just practicing basketball?

You can say "I practice everyday" and if nobody asks you, it's still not a good look. Especially if you do it regularly.

[Light]

You can say "I practice everyday" and if nobody asks you, it's still not a good look. Especially if you do it regularly.

It's not a bad look if people are voluntarily following him on instagram to see exactly that type of content.

[sasaint]

With respect to Dijon and Derrick, if they have been putting in the work to improve their shooting, it should be apparent in pre-season. With respect to their communication styles, that’s all they are - styles. In the age of social media, I am willing to give Dijon the benefit of the doubt; what he is doing is certainly his idea of leadership and might well be others’ idea of leadership as well. The proof will be in the pudding.

[FkLA]

https://thescorecrow.com/2019/07/20/a-local-legend-turning-into-a-rising-nba-star-derrick-white/

Good read. A little more insight than just the typical he was committed to a culinary college, then DII story, tbh.

[picnroll]

With all these guys bailing on team USA Pop should bring in White.

[buujness]

https://thescorecrow.com/2019/07/20/a-local-legend-turning-into-a-rising-nba-star-derrick-white/

Good read. A little more insight than just the typical he was committed to a culinary college, then DII story, tbh.Indeed, thanks for sharing.

I like that he goes back to coach kids. Really does seem like a genuinely good dude. Hope that he gets even better next season; the Spurs are going to need him to be.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm excited to see DW this year. Certainly an emerging leader for this team. He and Murray could be a great combo out there for us.

[phxspurfan]

I'm excited to see DW this year. Certainly an emerging leader for this team. He and Murray could be a great combo out there for us.

If he learns to shoot 3s he will get paidd

[BackHome]

White will be Good he just needs to stay healthy and understand that he belongs as a starters and he can be the man on offense and defense. I think last year he was playing great on offense and defense until he hit a wall and that started to affect his confidence.

[cutewizard]

Yoiiiiii White rules

[spurraider21]

white is a baller and cost controlled for the next 2 seasons...

[rjv]

nice read!

[koriwhat]

he turned into my favorite player last yr. i like his defense mostly but also his controlled way of picking his shots and making them look easy similar to kawhi in that regard. at times it seemed as though white was playing in a league of his own while going up against the lowest of iq players. sorry i can't articulate my thoughts thoroughly sometimes...

[DPG21920]

He’s now been invited to play with the National team with players dropping out.

[SpursDynasty85]

He’s now been invited to play with the National team with players dropping out.

Nice. Win for the Spurs!

[Dejounte]

Does the national team ever improve young players?

[picnroll]

With all these guys bailing on team USA Pop should bring in White.

Called it. I think it’ll be a good experience for him. With way players are bailing and his versatile game he could get a prominent role.

[KDKSpurs24]

Called it. I think it’ll be a good experience for him. With way players are bailing and his versatile game he could get a prominent role.
He’s not on the main squad. I hope something could happen for him to get on the main squad tho. But this is still a good experience for him

[phxspurfan]

Does the national team ever improve young players?

Anthony Davis

Kawhi (who was on the select team)

Christian Laettner :rollin

[cutewizard]

White and Samanic are my favorite players currently

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/YahooCASports/status/1155493703919816706?s=19

1. White


2. Rozier/FVV

4. Clarkson

[Floyd Pacquiao]

https://twitter.com/YahooCASports/status/1155493703919816706?s=19

1. White


2. Rozier/FVV

4. Clarkson

I like how White is getting a lot of love in the comments.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/johndelizondo/status/1159218523014459393

https://twitter.com/SASpurs5/status/1159219142249144320

[FkLA]

He should've gotten the call-up to the main squad instead of Fox, tbh.

[picnroll]

https://twitter.com/johndelizondo/status/1159240500651540481?s=20

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/jtakuz/status/1159246331636064256

[picnroll]

White’s playing PGand doing a nice job. That steal and crossover were against Fox. Doing a good job on Fox. Fox wont attack White, tries to get a switch.

https://youtu.be/FuzKIFYR4PY

[FkLA]

Wait, so not only did Fox get promoted to the senior squad before White...but so did Joe Harris? GTFO.

[picnroll]

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John Schuhmann: Jerry Colangelo today cited Marvin Bagley & Derrick White as two guys that have stood out on the Select Team through 3 days of camp (https://hoopshype.com/social/). Bagley scored quite a bit inside in the portion of scrimmaging that the media saw today.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1159291853339971584

[John B]

https://twitter.com/jtakuz/status/1159246331636064256
High praises. Derrick will beast it this year

[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1159291853339971584

?? Wasn't he a breakout player this year?

[GAustex]

Good grief if White balls, DJM and Walker come through and LMA concentrates Spurs May just have something
To bad DDR stank lingers

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/1159313373609304065

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/1159313373609304065
awesome if true :tu

[spurraider21]

?? Wasn't he a breakout player this year?
kinda. he still averaged 9.9 points, 3.7 rebounds, 3.9 assists for the season.

[goliath]

Bucher’s full Instagram post:

Derrick White is being invited to LA when Team USA reconvenes there next week, a program official told me, which essentially means he has been promoted from the select practice squad to the World Cup roster. (Look for Marvin Bagley to be promoted as well.) One coach told me White was the best player on either team in the Day 2 scrimmages and on Day 3 I saw him damn near replicate that with my own eyes as the select squad played the World Cup squad to a draw in consecutive 10-minute scrimmages. With that, I owe one of my Twitter followers an apology. Last season he touted White as one of the league’s next superstars and I scoffed at the time; I thought he was good but I hadn’t seen anything that merited all that. I have now. He still has to develop a 3-pt shot but his vision and court savvy were on full display as he either hit guys even before they knew they were open or created space to get his own; all that with + defense if not ++ defense. As a Spurs beat writer said to me, “The Spurs found another one.” Indeed they have. Let’s be clear: this isn’t a star-studded camp and White is far from a finished product. But he has elements you can’t teach and the physical tools to utilize them. Do not be surprised if he is both on this summer’s World Cup squad AND next summer’s Olympic squad — in part because the program intends to go young with the team playing back-to-back summers, in part because White has been that good. If I sound hyped, it’s because I am. I love both surprises and players who dominate simply by seeing what’s there a half-second before everybody else. That’s DW.

[spurraider21]

Bucher’s full Instagram post:

Derrick White is being invited to LA when Team USA reconvenes there next week, a program official told me, which essentially means he has been promoted from the select practice squad to the World Cup roster. (Look for Marvin Bagley to be promoted as well.) One coach told me White was the best player on either team in the Day 2 scrimmages and on Day 3 I saw him damn near replicate that with my own eyes as the select squad played the World Cup squad to a draw in consecutive 10-minute scrimmages. With that, I owe one of my Twitter followers an apology. Last season he touted White as one of the league’s next superstars and I scoffed at the time; I thought he was good but I hadn’t seen anything that merited all that. I have now. He still has to develop a 3-pt shot but his vision and court savvy were on full display as he either hit guys even before they knew they were open or created space to get his own; all that with + defense if not ++ defense. As a Spurs beat writer said to me, “The Spurs found another one.” Indeed they have. Let’s be clear: this isn’t a star-studded camp and White is far from a finished product. But he has elements you can’t teach and the physical tools to utilize them. Do not be surprised if he is both on this summer’s World Cup squad AND next summer’s Olympic squad — in part because the program intends to go young with the team playing back-to-back summers, in part because White has been that good. If I sound hyped, it’s because I am. I love both surprises and players who dominate simply by seeing what’s there a half-second before everybody else. That’s DW.
:lol so bucher overheard JVG's interview?

[Degoat]

That’s awesome that Derrick is having success at team team USA training camp!!

[DJR210]

JVG w/ high praise :tu

[phxspurfan]

Holy shit...could he end up being a star? I didnt even read him as a potential all star, just a decent floor general

[SpurPadre]

?? Wasn't he a breakout player this year?

He was benched in a Game 7 this year...so no, he wasn't. Hopefully, he will be this coming season, though!

[acoelho1]

If White’s confidence catches up with his talent, no reason he can’t be a star. He showed all the tools last year.

[Dejounte]

JVG is the same guy who hyped up Ben Moore. Id take his opinion with a grain of salt.

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/1159313373609304065

wow

[SpursDynasty85]

Love that USA Basketball could launch Derrick's career into another level! I recall Kawhi in 2012 scrimmages surprising everyone and then he eventually became a superstar with us.

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https://usathoopshype.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/i_fc_48_fc_derrick-white.png?w=19059 mins ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1277026/) – via Twitter johnschuhmann (https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann)
John Schuhmann: Jerry Colangelo today cited Marvin Bagley & Derrick White as two guys that have stood out on the Select Team through 3 days of camp (https://hoopshype.com/social/). Bagley scored quite a bit inside in the portion of scrimmaging that the media saw today.


First, you have to understand that Jerry Colangelo dislikes Pop immensely. For him to rep one of Pops players, a SPUR, is just unbelievable, the highest praise imaginable.

[exstatic]

JVG is the same guy who hyped up Ben Moore. Id take his opinion with a grain of salt.


Those were completely different circumstances. There were literally NO NBA players on that in season qualifying FIBA tournament squad. It was all gleaguers.

[John B]

I’m excited for this kid. I look forward for White becoming the 3rd option behind Aldridge and Demar. But I’m sure that he will eventually surpass both as he becomes a more reliable closer for the Spurs. I think he is hungrier than the two. Murray would be wise to step up his game with all praises White is getting, and should just make a better competitive, for lack of a better word, and push each other to greatness, same as Manu did for Tony.

[XDT76]

I really hope white plays on 2nd team for the Spurs LMA and DDR are gonna take away the ball from him and reduce his effectiveness if he is playing on the SL

[Mr. Body]

Anyone who watched him play this year knew this was coming.

[FkLA]

You know I was worried that Pop would give the reins to IB and slight White, but it doesn't even matter. White will just end up taking what is rightfully his anyway, tbh.

[ceperez]

Finally getting some respect!