[Woj]Spurs have pulled offer to Marcus Morris and agreed to a deal with free agent Trey Lyles

[Dex]

1149460475102531586

[spurraider21]

:lmao

[Leetonidas]

:lmao god dammit

[timvp]

Welp.

Dammit.

[DAF86]

I preferred Reggie Bullock, tbh.

[timvp]

Hey, at least the relationship with Klutch is salvaged :tu



















:pctoss

[spurraider21]

bertans died for trey lyles

DAF86 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11102)

[ironman2886]

“Knicks sign Marcus Morris“ soon to follow?

[DAF86]

We swapped Bertans for Lyles. We also gave Carroll more years and money. :lol

[TheGoatishere]

:lmao Fuck Klutch sports

[timvp]

I mean, Lyles has a higher ceiling and fits the timeline of the young core.

But dammit.

[Leetonidas]

I preferred Reggie Bullock, tbh.

Have to see what the terms were, possible Spurs could still nab him if they used half of the MLE if they can beat Knicks offer

[slick'81]

soo lyles>bert?

[BatManu20]

Bout time.

[tonight...you]

If Reggie Bullock still holds up Marcus' signing with them? He will be my hero.

[Dex]

Shitty consolation prize, tbh.

Here is hoping PATFO can turn Lyles into a star while Morris wastes away in the Eastern conference.

[BatManu20]

“Knicks sign Marcus Morris“ soon to follow?

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[r0drig0lac]

https://media.giphy.com/media/U4VXRfcY3zxTi/giphy.gif

[Ron Swanson]

How much of the MLE did we use?

[TheDoctor]

LMAO :lmao

[Dex]

Also mods, feel free to fix my shitty punctuation please.

[tonight...you]

Woj tweeted it already.
Welp... time to start thinking about dinner.

[Pavlov]

Let the mocking begin.

[DAF86]

soo lyles>bert?

No. Not even close.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Shitty consolation prize, tbh.

Here is hoping PATFO can turn Lyles into a star while Morris wastes away in the Eastern conference.



It's not a prize of any kind.

My new wish is that Bullock insists on getting his $10M and wins, and Morris is stuck and has to sign for that fucking Room Exception, because there's no place else to go.

[slick'81]

No. Not even close.

I know bro im just fckn around..this is an awful signing but maybe spurs salvage this dudes career

[FkLA]

:pctoss

[itzsoweezee]

Not good. We lost Bertans for this dude?

[Crazymaddopeyo]

This is going to make the front office separate themselves even more from Players with questionable attitudes. They took a chance and this is what happened, I don't see them taking another chance for a long time.

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/trey-lyles-justin-holiday-spurs-sign-marcus-morris-plan-b/

The Lyles of two years ago put up the same per-possessions stats as Morris did last season.

https://www.spurstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trey-lyles-spurs.jpg

Lyles couldn't hit a shot last year but the potential is there for him to eventually be better than Morris. Though, obviously, the 2019-20 Spurs take a hit with this news.

[td4mvp2k]

:tu

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Looked like he was most likely going to end up in NY anyways. I like this move as the longer the Spurs waited the less options they would have, so I assume they had Trey as next best option and wanted to sign him while he was still available. I assume he also was had for less $, but have to wait for the details.

Unless he makes huge strides it doesn't make us much better for next year BUT IF the Spurs can get him playing up to his potential he is young enough to fit in long term plans with our young guys.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Let the mocking begin.


It's looking pretty weak from where I'm sitting. That extra year to Carroll is really ugly now.

I can't really blame the Spurs, but when someone keeps getting clowned it looks bad.

[phxspurfan]

bertans died for trey lyles

DAF86 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11102)

:depressed

[Crazymaddopeyo]

We're going to feel this shit when playing teams like the lakers and clippers. What a shitty dude Marcus Morris is.

[emmo]

Sucks, but I’m through rooting for malcontents. You’re either with the Spurs game plan or fuck off.

[FkLA]

They really shouldn't have signed another Klutch player either. That just makes it worse.

[Mugen]

2yr deal but how much and what are the guarantees?

[Pavlov]

It's looking pretty weak from where I'm sitting. That extra year to Carroll is really ugly now.Is it guaranteed tho?

[Mugen]

They really shouldn't have signed another Klutch player. That just makes it worse.

That's the worst part of it tbh

[mo7888]

https://www.spurstalk.com/trey-lyles-justin-holiday-spurs-sign-marcus-morris-plan-b/

The Lyles of two years ago put up the same per-possessions stats as Morris did last season.

https://www.spurstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trey-lyles-spurs.jpg

Lyles couldn't hit a shot last year but the potential is there for him to eventually be better than Morris. Though, obviously, the 2019-20 Spurs take a hit with this news.

Hes also big enough to play some small ball C. We need that belinelli trade more than ever though for a 3.

[Ron Swanson]

Fuck Morris
Fuck Klutch
Fuck the Knicks

[Eggeye]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0p048TBoi4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0p048TBoi4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0p048TBoi4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0p048TBoi4)

[TimD]

I don’t mind it. Trey is younger and has a higher ceiling. It’s actually possible that his timeline is inline with Murray’s, Lonnie’s, and D-White’s. The fact that Morris even considered pulling out would have made the relationship with Morris weak at best, if not positively unworkable.

[slick'81]

Thanks god nobody signed lyles and he was still available to us :rolleyes

[spurraider21]

They really shouldn't have signed another Klutch player either. That just makes it worse.
cuck behavior tbh :lol

oh, you just fucked us over and took your guy away from us? ok, can we see what else you have on the menu?

[DAF86]

Please sign Bullock too.

[phxspurfan]

Maybe we can get Bert back?

[Leetonidas]

At least he's still young. There's hope for him I guess. Still not really happy about this but he was the "best" of the leftovers

[Robz4000]

:lol signing another Klutch player. Should be blacklisting the group.

[spurraider21]

Maybe we can get Bert back?
he gone. trade official.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Sucks but whatever, I had no idea he was only 23 years old so that’s cool.

[RD2191]

What's everyone bitching about? At least the dude wants to be here, fuck Morris.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Is it guaranteed tho?


Hmmm. I don't know. The third year was required. Seems kind of silly to require a third year, and then let the team opt out of it. But that's just a knee-jerk reaction. I guess we'll find out.

[Leetonidas]

And hopefully spurs trade Beli and whoever else for a forward that can shoot since we gave ours away

[spurraider21]

:lol signing another Klutch player. Should be blacklisting the group.
PATFO licking their boots with the hope that they maybe let us keep IB

[phxspurfan]

he gone. trade official.

Damn.





Well at least we got a dude named Trey.





W1fv8bPOwGk

[Marcus Bryant]

Please sign Bullock too.

That would be something.

[cd021]

It's looking pretty weak from where I'm sitting. That extra year to Carroll is really ugly now.

I can't really blame the Spurs, but when someone keeps getting clowned it looks bad.
Isn't Carroll's 3rd year only partially guaranteed for a small amount? If that's the case it's not really a 3 year deal.

[slick'81]

Lyles fckn sucks but oh well

[szkorhetz]

Morris is the better player, but Lyles is a better fit.

[TimD]

I don’t mind it. Trey is younger and has a higher ceiling. It’s actually possible that his timeline is inline with Murray’s, Lonnie’s, and D-White’s. The fact that Morris even considered pulling out would have made the relationship with Morris weak at best, if not positively unworkable.


To add, we made the best of a situation that was quite negative with very little active causation on our part. You have to go by a man’s word in these affairs and we did. Rarely has that bitten us and the general principle drives negotiations. The Bertan’s situation is unfortunate but those sorts of moves can be made on the basis of agreements alone and they are for the most part.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Is it guaranteed tho?

I think only 1.4 million or something along those lines is guaranteed, so wouldn't be a big deal to cut him or easy to move to another team

[ZeusWillJudge]

What's everyone bitching about? At least the dude wants to be here, fuck Morris.



Ha! I'm going with that. Moving on.

There are a whole bunch of really spiteful things I'd like to see happen this season. Some of them have to come true, and I'm going to laugh my ass off at every one that does.

[EricB]

Isn't Carroll's 3rd year only partially guaranteed for a small amount? If that's the case it's not really a 3 year deal.

1.8 million. That’s it. People bitching about that are clueless.

[slick'81]

And lyles agent is rich paul :rollin

[spurraider21]

What's everyone bitching about? At least the dude wants to be here, fuck Morris.
oh. because morris is a good player. and lyles isnt.

yeah, mainly that

[timvp]

It's looking pretty weak from where I'm sitting. That extra year to Carroll is really ugly now.


I think only 1.4 million or something along those lines is guaranteed, so wouldn't be a big deal to cut him or easy to move to another team

Yeah, Carroll's third year is only $1.4 or $1.5 million guaranteed. No big deal, tbh.

[Mugen]

I hope Lyles is around 5mil, higher the number, more useful in an outgoing trade come December tbh.

[ZeusWillJudge]

And lyles agent is rich paul :rollin


Well Lyles has only agreed to terms. He hasn't signed yet.

[Mugen]

They need another body to throw at the wings in the West. Lyles isn't that, disappointing tbh.

[timvp]

Well Lyles has only agreed to terms. He hasn't signed yet.

Good point, tbh. :depressed

[Dennis the Menace]

Get Lyles in the gym with Chip. Just need 3 and D production from him

[SpursDynasty85]

Isn't Carroll's 3rd year only partially guaranteed for a small amount? If that's the case it's not really a 3 year deal.

Yea. Something like $1-2M I read. But whats the cap hold for that year? I think the full $7M that year. Eats possible important cao space in a really pivotal year for the Spurs. Hope Carroll can playout the contract with benefit to the Spurs.

[td4mvp2k]

morris agrees with knicks :lmao

[picnroll]

Please Spurs tell Murray if he doesn't drop Rich Paul he spends the next 5 years in the g-league.

[spurraider21]

Well Lyles has only agreed to terms. He hasn't signed yet.
:lol

[Dex]

Well Lyles has only agreed to terms. He hasn't signed yet.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/96b79efd42b9f8bb86072b0e09056f98/tenor.gif?itemid=9668240

[EricB]

They need another body to throw at the wings in the West. Lyles isn't that, disappointing tbh.


Beyond their control.

[RD2191]

oh. because morris is a good player. and lyles isnt.

yeah, mainly that

PATFO will turn him into prime Duncan in no time, just be patient.

[szkorhetz]

This is going to make the front office separate themselves even more from Players with questionable attitudes. They took a chance and this is what happened, I don't see them taking another chance for a long time.
The Spurs Way.

I am fucking proud about the way PATFO handled this.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah, Carroll's third year is only $1.4 or $1.5 million guaranteed. No big deal, tbh.

Yeah, the Spurs have like $15MM guaranteed on the books as of now for the summer of 2021. Not going to get in the way of creating cap room to sign 3 max players or whatever in theory.

[rjv]

so far, all i've heard on lyles' deal is that it's two years. if it's the minimum, then i'm okay with how this all turned out.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.spurstalk.com/trey-lyles-justin-holiday-spurs-sign-marcus-morris-plan-b/

The Lyles of two years ago put up the same per-possessions stats as Morris did last season.

https://www.spurstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trey-lyles-spurs.jpg

Lyles couldn't hit a shot last year but the potential is there for him to eventually be better than Morris. Though, obviously, the 2019-20 Spurs take a hit with this news.

the obvious differential and the hardness and versatility of Morris, Lyles does not have that.

[Mugen]

Beyond their control.

They didn't have to sign anybody now tbh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well Lyles has only agreed to terms. He hasn't signed yet.

RC needs to ask for a screenshot of the text.

[NASpurs]

:lmao the day is here

[timvp]

Please Spurs tell Murray if he doesn't drop Rich Paul he spends the next 5 years in the g-league.

Doesn't look like there's an issue with Rich Paul, FWIW.

[FkLA]

https://www.spurstalk.com/trey-lyles-justin-holiday-spurs-sign-marcus-morris-plan-b/

The Lyles of two years ago put up the same per-possessions stats as Morris did last season.

https://www.spurstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trey-lyles-spurs.jpg

Lyles couldn't hit a shot last year but the potential is there for him to eventually be better than Morris. Though, obviously, the 2019-20 Spurs take a hit with this news.

How's his defense? I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs can help Lyles get back on track offensively, but honestly what I was most excited about with Morris was his defense. The ability to throw two big bodied combo forwards, who are solid defenders, at guys like Nephew, PG, LeBron, Giannis was really fucking exciting, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Yea. Something like $1-2M I read. But whats the cap hold for that year? I think the full $7M that year. Eats possible important cao space in a really pivotal year for the Spurs. Hope Carroll can playout the contract with benefit to the Spurs.Just renounce him and it's down to the amount owed.

Really not a big deal.

[Anto210]

Get Lyles in the gym with Chip. Just need 3 and D production from him

[Mugen]

:lmao the day is here

:lol

[Leetonidas]

Didn't lyles get butthurt in Utah because Snyder had them practice too much or something? Not a good sign

[Dex]

How's his defense? I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs can help Lyles get back on track offensively, but honestly what I was most excited about with Morris was his defense. The ability to throw two big bodied combo forwards, who are solid defenders, at guys like Nephew, PG, LeBron, Giannis was really fucking exciting, tbh.

Yeah, that's gone. Having Murray back and Carrol will help, but the rest will be up to Pop's scheme tbh.

[EricB]

They didn't have to sign anybody now tbh.


Roster spots can be opened. Wouldn’t be shocked if ones open here soon.

[Mugen]

Need the contract details tbh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Just renounce him and it's down to the amount owed.

Really not a big deal.

Basically. Even with full amount of hold the Spurs only have $20MM against the cap as of now for the 2021-22 season.

[timvp]

How's his defense? I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs can help Lyles get back on track offensively, but honestly what I was most excited about with Morris was his defense. The ability to throw two big bodied combo forwards, who are solid defenders, at guys like Nephew, PG, LeBron, Giannis was really fucking exciting, tbh.

Lyles is much more of a bouncy interior defender who can't defend out on the perimeter very well (you're not going to put him on one of those big wings). Morris can defend both forward spots pretty well but obviously doesn't provide any rim protection.

RPM believes Lyles is the much better defender .... but for what the Spurs need and the teams they need to go through, I'd much rather have Morris ... obviously.

[slick'81]

Didn't lyles get butthurt in Utah because Snyder had them practice too much or something? Not a good sign


Fans in utah complained he was soft af

[dubross]

Didn't lyles get butthurt in Utah because Snyder had them practice too much or something? Not a good sign

HE got traded for Donovan Mitchell on draft day. Denver actually wanted him but he regressed last year.

[Leetonidas]

Roster spots can be opened. Wouldn’t be shocked if ones open here soon.

:tu let's hope

[kobyz]

Yaiks, a Canadian! Seems like the most lazy with less passion player in the league...

[timvp]

Need the contract details tbh.

Yeah, I'm hoping for a team option on that second year. Preferably, it's something like $3 million so that Bullock would still be in play ... but whatevs.

[Marcus Bryant]

Basically. Even with full amount of hold the Spurs only have $20MM against the cap as of now for the 2021-22 season.

Actually, looks like less than that.

[Rocalcio]

Fuck Morris, can’t wait to see him play in AT&T. Booooo...

[Mugen]

Poor man's Robert Horry without the clutchness or toughness tbh :lol

[timtonymanu]

Meh, let's hope the Spurs can turn his game around and he's not just gonna be another Austin Daye type of impact player. If they can get as much out of him as they done with Jakob, then it's a blessing in disguise.

Still hope Belinelli is on his way out though.

[Atl Spur]

Told u!! This dude is not trash homies; I trust our talent evaluators/developers.

[Marcus Bryant]

Seeing Lyles deal reported as 1 year.

[ironman2886]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch-y9TQXAAEcCx3?format=jpg&name=medium

[Leetonidas]

HE got traded for Donovan Mitchell on draft day. Denver actually wanted him but he regressed last year.

Bet that was why they traded his ass

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices

[wildcardX]

What's everyone bitching about? At least the dude wants to be here, fuck Morris.
:tu
If Morris didn't really want to be here, I would not want want him around the other guys in the locker room and practice. It can be cancerous, especially to the younger players.

[SpursDynasty85]

Just renounce him and it's down to the amount owed.

Really not a big deal.

Oh. Good to know!

[Mugen]

Dejounte/Fatty/Quindarry
White/Forbes/Walker
Derozan/Carroll/Keldon
Gay/Lyles/Samanic/Metu?
LMA/Poetl/Eubanks

Fat needs to be trimmed badly tbh.

[Mr. Body]

1. Trey Lyles failed at Utah, failed at Denver. These are good organizations.

2. John Calipari players just suck. Not in terms of talent. He just doesn't do jack shit with teaching them the game. Part of this is that they are high AAU type players who are prima donnas and never listen to them, but very few are actual winners past their talent level.

3. Lyles is a prime Coach Cal player. Like, say, Kevin Knox. Just no idea what to do on the court. Empty possessions, empty stats. These are the type of dipshits who sign with Klutch, by the way.

4. The Spurs are undertaking a big experiment this year -- not just with Lyles, but Keldon Johnson.

5. I don't think Lyles will improve any.

6. But they did have to move on. He's just a dumbfuck of a player. Imagine being in two great circumstances and crapping out. Here's his third chance.

[timvp]

1149467542747959298

So that's basically a team option. Can release him if he remains a 25% three-point shooter :tu

[slick'81]

The fact lyles was still sitting around means he aint getting much tbh

[spurraider21]

Actually, looks like less than that.


Seeing Lyles deal reported as 1 year.
how bout you post what ur reading breh

[dubross]

1149467542747959298

[Big P]

patfo get cucked again..unreal....anything more than the minimum is an overpay.

[Collins21]

Need the contract details tbh.

2 years no guarantee's but the second year is only partially guaranteed, This according to Jabari Young

[tonight...you]

I am not comfortable until cutewizard (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19861) shows up with vids.

Of our weekend in Hawaii... HEYOOOOOO!!!!

That never happened.


We only ended up playing D&D...
The paper and pen D&D.

At the table we were eating our breakfast buffet til the waitress asked us to leave so they could get ready for the lunch crowd.


I feel dirty now.

[cjw]

I preferred Reggie Bullock, tbh.

Wasnt he actually under contract?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Just renounce him and it's down to the amount owed.

Really not a big deal.


Nah, just the fact that three years for a guy like that clearly wasn't' part of their plan right now. I was talking about optics.

They'll survive losing face a little, but a good '19-'20 season will go a long way. The best revenge is playing well.

[K...]

1149467542747959298

So that's basically a team option. Can release him if he remains a 25% three-point shooter :tu

[Mugen]

Still hoping salary is around 5-8mil tbh...combined with Beli and Forbes, that gets you into good role player money come December when he's eligible to be traded.

Shit, might not even need that much to get into Andre Roberson range.

[Trainwreck2100]

Klutch ends up with a double payday, how the fuck does that happen

[Marcus Bryant]

how bout you post what ur reading breh

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/SAS.html

Maybe two years from now less than $2MM in guaranteed money will matter...? Plenty of flexibility.

[RC_Drunkford]

fuck this shit

[FkLA]

Lyles is much more of a bouncy interior defender who can't defend out on the perimeter very well (you're not going to put him on one of those big wings). Morris can defend both forward spots pretty well but obviously doesn't provide any rim protection.

RPM believes Lyles is the much better defender .... but for what the Spurs need and the teams they need to go through, I'd much rather have Morris ... obviously.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/8w0nMDJlxcwrC/giphy.gif

[timtonymanu]

fuck this shit

:lmao good character guy, he said.

[kobyz]

somewhere in SD Kawhi Leonard is having a big smile, one more proof for how much this place is a mess and PATFO lost it, hope nobody anymore is going to keep blaming Kawhi for wanting out of here!

[cjw]

Comparison of Lyles:
https://bkref.com/tiny/mHMmz

Believe timvp posted this on the site, but rebounding and assists are better for Lyles, as is his two point shooting. His three point shooting is atrocious on 200 attempts.

His on/off and advanced stats are horrible though in comparison.

He’s still young...

[r0drig0lac]

Klutch ends up with a double payday, how the fuck does that happen

LeGoat

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Trey Lyles fuckin sucks. God damn i knew the post big 3 years were going to be shitty, but not this shitty. Well year 3 of no league pass.

[Pavlov]

somewhere in SD Kawhi Leonard is having a big smile, one more proof for how much this place is a mess and PATFO lost it, hope nobody anymore is going to keep blaming Kawhi for wanting out of here!I blame him.

Why do you keep sucking his dick?

He's gone.

He doesn't want you.

[ironman2886]

I heard he hates to practice and doesn’t like playing defense. Pop’s gonna love him.

[Joseph Kony]

somewhere in SD Kawhi Leonard is having a big smile, one more proof for how much this place is a mess and PATFO lost it, hope nobody anymore is going to keep blaming Kawhi for wanting out of here!

jesus fuck youre an idiot, wish you had just pulled the trigger after 6. tbh

[ace3g]

And now our versatile starting lineup with Morris at PF is back to square one. Lyles doesn't have the perimeter defensive versatility to start...

[slick'81]

Trey Lyles fuckin sucks. God damn i knew the post big 3 years were going to be shitty, but not this shitty. Well year 3 of no league pass.


Yeah lyles is flaming hot shit

[cjw]

jesus fuck youre an idiot, wish you had just pulled the trigger after 6. tbh

Just block him, has to be the worst poster on here

[Mugen]

And now our versatile starting lineup with Morris at PF is back to square one. Lyles doesn't have the perimeter defensive versatility to start...

They're probably rolling with Dejounte/White/Derozan/LMA/Poetl with Gay first man off the bench fo Jak.

The only change in that is probably Forbes instead of Derrick :lol

[DAF86]

And now our versatile starting lineup with Morris at PF is back to square one. Lyles doesn't have the perimeter defensive versatility to start...

Get. Robert. Covington.

[Big Empty]

6’9 with a 7’1 wingspan. 23 years old and the #15 pick in 2015.

[slick'81]

And now our versatile starting lineup with Morris at PF is back to square one. Lyles doesn't have the perimeter defensive versatility to start...


Hello aldridge/poodle 2.0

[Mugen]

Dejounte/Fatty/Quindarry
White/Forbes/Walker
Derozan/Carroll/Keldon
Gay/Lyles/Samanic/Metu?
LMA/Poetl/Eubanks

Fat needs to be trimmed badly tbh.

Jesus, I even forget Beli. Trade has to be coming.

[slick'81]

6’9 with a 7’1 wingspan. 23 years old and the #15 pick in 2015.


12th pick and they dont all work out BE

[Mr. Body]

I heard he hates to practice and doesn’t like playing defense. Pop’s gonna love him.

I kind of wonder if he makes it all season.

[vy65]

Anyone got any recommendations on an exciting NHL team to watch?

[wildcardX]

Don't know much about this guy. Sounds like he's another Jeff Ayres.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1149471629111513093

[timtonymanu]

Jesus, I even forget Beli. Trade has to be coming.

Honestly thought you did that on purpose lol. Seriously Covington, hell even Marvin williams would be fine. Just hope Beli is on the way out.

[bdictjames]

Lyles is Boris Diaw-lite. I hope he'll be good on the Spurs.

[picnroll]

Rich Paul is Trey Lyles agent? :hang

[tonight...you]

Anyone got any recommendations on an exciting NHL team to watch?
Rugby World Cup about to happen and the All Blacks are the team to throw in on.
Same colors as the Spurs too.


Get to watch some hakas...

[Mr. Body]

I mean, if it's basically Bertans for Lyles, okay, fine. Bertans wasn't getting much burn this season anyway and Lyles maybe shows some life. If he understands he's close to out of the league, he'd better bust his fucking ass.

[Mr. Body]

Lyles is Boris Diaw-lite. I hope he'll be good on the Spurs.

In that he's no longer NBA-quality? :lol

[JADG79]

For this reason SAS doesn’t like to trade players or do risky moves.

I hope we can waive Metu or Marco and get another player in mid season.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lmao good character guy, he said.

I never said that. I said he would be the perfect fit. He used to work out with Lonnie and had a good relationship with Baynes, so I guess the Spurs had somewhat of an inside scoop on him. It's just that 5 million is his salary of last year, so it makes a huge difference. Still a fuck boy move. Morris with Carroll would've made us competitive against both LA teams

[BWS-1994]

PATFO licking their boots with the hope that they maybe let us keep IB

Yeah. Conspiracy theory. Maybe something’s in the works.

[SpurPadre]

Oh well. Could've added another locker room cancer with Morris. Now, we're younger and added a player who has a higher ceiling. Made the best out of a shitty situation, tbh.

[FkLA]

So he's a Klutch player and he bitched about Snyder's (a Spurs product) practices. Yeah I have no hope for this fucking faggot.

Hopefully the real Morris replacement will come via a trade.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Lol @ the meltdown here. Morris is much better but he wasn’t the missing piece to a championship and probably would have left after this season anyways. It’s going to be fine guys haha

[Atl Spur]

Can you guys just let pop and them do their work? Damn some of you dudes are way to invested🙈

[random21]

What a shitty offseason.... My only hope is that Dejounte, White and Walker guide the Spurs in the right direction

[timtonymanu]

I never said that. I said he would be the perfect fit. He used to work out with Lonnie and had a good relationship with Baynes, so I guess the Spurs had somewhat of an inside scoop on him. It's just that 5 million is his salary of last year, so it makes a huge difference. Still a fuck boy move. Morris with Carroll would've made us competitive against both LA teams

I specifically remember you coming to his defense when everyone said he was a headcase and that he admired winning (that turned out to be BS) and was a good inspiration in the lockerroom aka good character guy traits.

[Shohoku High]

When he was on Richard Jefferson's podcast, he said he hates practice everyday, also hates Utah city because he thinks only family guys like playing there. Sounds like a diva and want night life. Going to need to fix his discipline issues too.

[timtonymanu]

Can you guys just let pop and them do their work? Damn some of you dudes are way to invested��

We have enough resident Popsuckers on here, your opinion isn't needed. Pretty sure every logical person is on PATFO's side on here also.

[Mr. Body]

When he was on Richard Jefferson's podcast, he said he hates practice everyday, also hates Utah city because he thinks only family guys like playing there. Sounds like a diva and want night life. Going to need to fix his discipline issues too.

He's got to wake the fuck up before he has to decide between playing in Turkey or bagging groceries.

[slick'81]

We have enough resident Popsuckers on here, your opinion isn't needed. Pretty sure every logical person is on PATFO's side on here also.


Hes the next boris diaw and only 23

[Joseph Kony]

He's got to wake the fuck up before he has to decide between playing in Turkey or bagging groceries.

He might be starting to realize that after his QO got rescinded and no one wanted him in FA :lol

[timtonymanu]

So he's a Klutch player and he bitched about Snyder's (a Spurs product) practices. Yeah I have no hope for this fucking faggot.

Hopefully the real Morris replacement will come via a trade.

Yeah concerning red flags. Don't get a good vibe at all. This just seemed like a desperation signing. Hopefully a better player is acquired through trade.

[TimDunkem]

Every big with a jumper is the next Boris Diaw to ST. Jfc

[FkLA]

It hurts. To be so close to having a roster capable of pulling off #6 and of getting sweet revenge on Nephew, only for it to be snatched away. Damn. :(

[timtonymanu]

:lmao the Diaw comparisons. Diaw at least looked like an NBA player and was MIP in his first few seasons. This is just like hoping Kyle Anderson (a much better player than Lyles) is the next Boris Diaw.

[dbreiden83080]

Have fun losing 70 games this season..

[BWS-1994]

I am not comfortable until cutewizard (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19861) shows up with vids.

Of our weekend in Hawaii... HEYOOOOOO!!!!

That never happened.


We only ended up playing D&D...
The paper and pen D&D.

At the table we were eating our breakfast buffet til the waitress asked us to leave so they could get ready for the lunch crowd.


I feel dirty now.

Haha! Yeah, was just about to call him here :D Spam it up!

[kobyz]

I blame him.

Why do you keep sucking his dick?

He's gone.

He doesn't want you.
Why aren't you happy for him? if you a true spurs fan and can face reality, you should found comfort in kawhi success, he was such dedicate and great for us in his time here that you should be happy that at least him didn't sink with the ship, how can you blame him for not wanting to sink with the ship?

[Joseph Kony]

It hurts. To be so close to having a roster capable of pulling off #6 and of getting sweet revenge on Nephew, only for it to be snatched away. Damn. :(

didnt you call the Spurs ringing before the Morris signing was ever announced?

[NameLess Scrub]

By the time I get the notification there's like a million pages in the thread.

Anyway, Trey Kyle's sounds like industrial level scrub.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Westbrook to Houston wow

[Mr. Body]

Westbrook to Houston wow

Wow, Chris Paul must be ecstatic to end his career with a collapsing team. :lol

[kobyz]

Just block him, has to be the worst poster on here

lol, I'm the only one who's real here and not living in denial like you all

[TD 21]

:lmao At getting cucked my Klutch.

Should have offered Bullock the full MLE for 2 years, then offered Forbes/Belinelli/Metu and if need be, either the rights to Milutinov or a 2nd, for Marvin Williams.

Let's just hope they're smart enough to start Gay. Carroll isn't big/strong enough to be a full time starting PF and Poeltl isn't tenable with Murray rejoining the starting lineup.

[FkLA]

didnt you call the Spurs ringing before the Morris signing was ever announced?

Yes but I'm doubting myself now. :(

Maybe it'll pass once the letdown effects of this are over.

[Chinook]

Not in love with Lyles though. I hope he turns out well, but I'd much rather have him on a pure one-year deal rather than paying to release him. I'm getting really sick of dead money on the cap, and they already did that with Carroll's contract. They should have brought in guys to compete for the backup PF job with Samanic and Metu, and with the wider 9th- and 10th-man battles with those two, Beli, Walker and Johnson. Make up for a lack of quality with quantity.

Ultimately, they traded Bertans for Carroll. That's still a good deal, even if the Morris part fell through. Davis was going to have to fight to earn minutes next year with Walker emerging and guys like Beli and Mills still on the team. Instead, they got a solid starter at the four and can play any number of bench combos with Gay, Poeltl and their guard depth. Yes, with Morris it would have been stronger, but they just have to deal now. The depth chart is going to shift a lot anyway, and there's enough raw talent on the bench to hope the second unit will end up young, hungry and capable.

[Spurs da champs]

Have fun losing 70 games this season..

Not only that but with all that depth at both forward positions i just dont see how he gets that big payday he is aeeking. He was a guranteed starter or having starters minutes here at the least.

[r0drig0lac]

Lyles is Boris Diaw-lite. I hope he'll be good on the Spurs.

2019 Boris Diaw?

[ironman2886]

Everybody, the party is in the “Westbrook to Houston,” thread. Bring your own beer.

[slick'81]

2019 Boris Diaw?

we can only hope

[FkLA]

Should've just done whatever needed to be done to move up for Rui. The next Nephew would've been starting by midseason at the latest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZQEFTiPqI

[offset formation]

They really shouldn't have signed another Klutch player either. That just makes it worse.

Klutch needs to be ganged upon by all the teams

[Keepin' it real]

Maybe we can get Bert back?

Why? Everyone was happy when he left.


Westbrook to Houston wow

That will be the second story on sportscenter, right after the lead story on Lyles.

[dbestpro]

I mean, if it's basically Bertans for Lyles, okay, fine. Bertans wasn't getting much burn this season anyway and Lyles maybe shows some life. If he understands he's close to out of the league, he'd better bust his fucking ass.

I would argue that it is Carroll and Lyle for Bertans and Cunningham.

[murpjf88]

Lyles is basically a league min. salary type player. There's no reason to use the MLE on this guy.

[objective]

Just as bad as it gets

Lyles was on his way out of the league. He's a bad guy and a locker room cancer and selfish player just like Morris, but Morris could actually play.

Terrible attitude, thinks he's a superstar, doesn't work, resents having to work, he's a clown.

I don't want that guy around the young players with his bullshit poison. Nobody from the jazz had anything positive to say about the lyles experience, and I doubt anyone in Denver feels different

I don't know what number he's getting but I do think they'd be better off with just signing a summer league guy or holding out for a buying guy or getting someone from Europe. Hell, they could have signed Milutinov, dumped eubanks and kept Moore instead

[gambit1990]

i have no idea who trey lyles is.

[TheGreatYacht]

PATFO couldn’t have fucked this offseason worse if they tried.

1. Got cucked by Klutch, then went after another Klutch player

2. Went from paying Carroll a reasonable 2/13M, to 3yr/21M

3. Signed this scrub who hates practice and is an absolutely atrocity on the court. So much for those advanced stat virgins we supposedly have on the payroll.

4. Got cute with the Samanic pick despite having Brandon Clarke RIGHT THERE ready to fill our PF need day one.

[dbestpro]

Lyles will have to work his way on the team or he will spend much of his time in Austin.

[tbdog]

I don't even know Lyles game.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

They really shouldn't have signed another Klutch player either. That just makes it worse.maybe it's not klutch and it's Morris. They do work for him and have to as he ask them too.

[slick'81]

i have no idea who trey lyles is.


Nobody does tbh but because it was literally all that was left its now a positive

[Dex]

i have no idea who trey lyles is.

https://i.imgur.com/0o3apOt.gif

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Hes also big enough to play some small ball C. We need that belinelli trade more than ever though for a 3.Belinelli ain't going to get you anything more than a scrub unless Walker, Murray, White or one on this year's picks are attached

[ceperez]

Should've just done whatever needed to be done to move up for Rui. The next Nephew would've been starting by midseason at the latest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZQEFTiPqI

Looks impressive. Reminds me of nephew.

[UZER]

Everybody, the party is in the “Westbrook to Houston,” thread. Bring your own beer.

:lol

[Big P]

Austin Daye 2.0...while every team in the west got better...we get lyles...lol

[TimDunkem]

Austin Daye 2.0...while every team in the west got better...we get lyles...lol

Spurfan still thinks this team is a contender.

[Pavlov]

Why aren't you happy for him?Because fuck him.

You can suck his cock all you want and take it straight up your ass and suck it again right after. That's your life.

Some men have more self respect.

[phxspurfan]

Lyles is basically a league min. salary type player. There's no reason to use the MLE on this guy.

He's definitely end-of-bench, should be in the G League, below replacement level. By comparison, a guy like Faried is probably just below replacement level, and a good fit for only a few types of offenses (lob city types). Lyles has no consistent NBA level skills yet. The Kentucky brand is really strong though

[GreekSpursfan]

Everybody, the party is in the “Westbrook to Houston,” thread. Bring your own beer.

:lol

[phxspurfan]

Lyles is basically a league min. salary type player. There's no reason to use the MLE on this guy.

He's definitely end-of-bench, should be in the G League, below replacement level. By comparison, a guy like Faried is probably just below replacement level, and a good fit for only a few types of offenses (lob city types). Lyles has no consistent NBA level skills yet. The Kentucky brand is really strong though

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/trey-lyles

NBA Comparison: Carlos Boozer :rollin


"Does not do one thing at an elite level ... Not a high flyer. A smooth athlete, but not very explosive ... Remains to be seen, but could potentially be relegated to a stretch 4 at the next level because of his lack of explosiveness"

"Kentucky’s forgotten man"

"Not especially quick, lacks speed ... Needs to improve his on-ball defense ... Does not possess great lateral quickness, which results in him getting beat off the bounce too often ... Struggles with defending quicker players ... Not overly athletic (for NBA’s standards) ... Inconsistent and struggles from the 3-point line (currently shooting 13 percent)"


Good lord this dude is terrible

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Metu will be starting by January and have a better season than Morris. Log it.

[Mr. Body]

He's definitely end-of-bench, should be in the G League, below replacement level. By comparison, a guy like Faried is probably just below replacement level, and a good fit for only a few types of offenses (lob city types). Lyles has no consistent NBA level skills yet. The Kentucky brand is really strong though

The Kentucky brand is shit though, unless you mean it overrates players.

[mo7888]

Belinelli ain't going to get you anything more than a scrub unless Walker, Murray, White or one on this year's picks are attached

Definitely are going to have to attach picks to get something valuable back....that's a given...

[99 Problems]

Next up the inevitable Morris injury and the lucky to get Lyles and dodge that injury thread incoming.

[slick'81]

Spurfan still thinks this team is a contender.


Of the 1st rnd of the playoffs sure

[r0drig0lac]

Looks impressive. Reminds me of nephew.

https://media.giphy.com/media/YUCQOems8mbgA/giphy.gif

[phxspurfan]

The Kentucky brand is shit though, unless you mean it overrates players.

That's what I'm saying. It overrates guys who otherwise wouldn't get even a tryout

[BackHome]

God damn what shitty news and why sign this scrub just go into the season and maybe a decent player gets dumped. We got another fucking Erorrs on this team ................:pctoss

[weebo]

What a shitty offseason.... My only hope is that Dejounte, White and Walker guide the Spurs in the right direction

What in the actual fuck? :lol The Spurs just had a great draft and LW4 looks awesome.

[Chomag]

Trash, might as well just saved the money

[kobyz]

Because fuck him.

You can suck his cock all you want and take it straight up your ass and suck it again right after. That's your life.

Some men have more self respect.
The sucker is you, a Pop sucker!
lol respect, all of you have no dignity what so ever!

[Mr. Body]

That's what I'm saying. It overrates guys who otherwise wouldn't get even a tryout

Got it. Agree. This guy never was a lottery pick, maybe not even a second rounder, when he came out.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Well......damn.

Maybe the coaching staff can salvage this guys career. Can't believe they got another Klutch guy though. Smh

[Leetonidas]

Metu will be starting by January and have a better season than Morris. Log it.

Dude looked 10x worse than Lyles last year. Highly doubt that tbh

[EricB]

Should've just done whatever needed to be done to move up for Rui. The next Nephew would've been starting by midseason at the latest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZQEFTiPqI


You wouldve traded Walker Bertans and 2 unprotected firsts? Cause that’s what Washington wanted for the 9th

[Solid D]

Playing for a team all swole with PFs....8.8 % NY state tax. That would be around $1.3M in state taxes...with the wealthy leaving NY in droves...Playing for a losing team with a clueless GM ...and a highly critical, high maintenance fan base...one less year guaranteed. Enjoy.

[Maddog]

Just as bad as it gets

Lyles was on his way out of the league. He's a bad guy and a locker room cancer and selfish player just like Morris, but Morris could actually play.

Terrible attitude, thinks he's a superstar, doesn't work, resents having to work, he's a clown.

I don't want that guy around the young players with his bullshit poison. Nobody from the jazz had anything positive to say about the lyles experience, and I doubt anyone in Denver feels different

I don't know what number he's getting but I do think they'd be better off with just signing a summer league guy or holding out for a buying guy or getting someone from Europe. Hell, they could have signed Milutinov, dumped eubanks and kept Moore instead


Is this true?
Not heard it. But then again I don't keep up on the latest Lyle's news

[Russ]

https://www.spurstalk.com/trey-lyles-justin-holiday-spurs-sign-marcus-morris-plan-b/

The Lyles of two years ago put up the same per-possessions stats as Morris did last season.

https://www.spurstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trey-lyles-spurs.jpg

Lyles couldn't hit a shot last year but the potential is there for him to eventually be better than Morris. Though, obviously, the 2019-20 Spurs take a hit with this news.

Can this guy play D? (I fear I know the answer.)

But if this guy can be taught to play defense, this could be a Bruce Bowen type pick up (of course, mocked by most at the time, just like with Bowen).

Guys who are young, abandoned and undervalued are a Spurs specialty (Bowen, Jack, Danny).

People may end up marveling at how lucky the Spurs always are, dodging a bullet when Marcus Morris inexplicably made a move that opened everything up.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Dude looked 10x worse than Lyles last year. Highly doubt that tbh

Bro, trust me. Metu will be a starter in this league. He'll shoot over 40% from 3 and be able to switch on to perimeter defenders. Watch

[Leetonidas]

Bro, trust me. Metu will be a starter in this league. He'll shoot over 40% from 3 and be able to switch on to perimeter defenders. Watch

How can you be so confident? Couldn't even get to see him play in summer league

[Genovaswitness]

You wouldve traded Walker Bertans and 2 unprotected firsts? Cause that’s what Washington wanted for the 9th
absolutely. walker is never going to make the rotation, bertans sucked and it’s not like we’ve drafted well lately

[EricB]

Bro, trust me. Metu will be a starter in this league. He'll shoot over 40% from 3 and be able to switch on to perimeter defenders. Watch


He’s borderline to be on the roster right now so that’s pretty bold.

[Blackhaus]

Not reading back, we’re terms of his deal released?

[FkLA]

You wouldve traded Walker Bertans and 2 unprotected firsts? Cause that’s what Washington wanted for the 9th

Is that you, RC?

[slick'81]

Is that you, RC?


Is buford obese?

[Russ]

This is going to make the front office separate themselves even more from Players with questionable attitudes. They took a chance and this is what happened, I don't see them taking another chance for a long time.

I see them taking a lot of Samanics for a long time.

[Ocotillo]

Bro, trust me. Metu will be a starter in this league. He'll shoot over 40% from 3 and be able to switch on to perimeter defenders. Watch I am an optimist but what the hell are you basing that on?

[Seventyniner]

This just smells like Ayers 2.0. But PATFO saw fit to sign him so there has to be at least a small chance he turns into a decent player. Just sucks that there really aren't any good options left.

[slick'81]

This just smells like Ayers 2.0. But PATFO saw fit to sign him so there has to be at least a small chance he turns into a decent player. Just sucks that there really aren't any good options left.


obviously he was all that was left and he has proven he can score a little 8.5 ppg last season.Its a low risk signing that spurs figured wth

[vander]

Get Lyles in the gym with Chip. Just need 3 and D production from him

This Chip myth needs to die. Who's shot has he fixed since TP?

[Marcus Bryant]

Playing for a team all swole with PFs....8.8 % NY state tax. That would be around $1.3M in state taxes...with the wealthy leaving NY in droves...Playing for a losing team with a clueless GM ...and a highly critical, high maintenance fan base...one less year guaranteed. Enjoy.

It's still more money, at least for next season, but otherwise, yep.

[robert1886]

This Chip myth needs to die. Who's shot has he fixed since TP?
Kawhi

[HarlemHeat37]

Is buford obese?

lol

[Ocotillo]

I hope for the best here and the development work is put in and Lyles turns into a serviceable player but then someone compares him to Ayers and I have flashbacks.

[Marcus Bryant]

Unless the Spurs signed Lyles to the full MLE, meh.

[timvp]

If guys like Kanter, Kaminsky and Thies only got two-year, $10 million, I can't imagine Lyles got more than that. It's gotta be somewhere between $6-9 million guaranteed, I'd think.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Sucks, but I’m through rooting for malcontents. You’re either with the Spurs game plan or fuck off.

This is the way it should and will be.

We adapt, but don't blow where the wind blows. If you dont fit, you dont fit.

We must continue to maximize the output of the good guys.


I'm just worried about Murray, tbh.

[Joseph Kony]

If guys like Kanter, Kaminsky and Thies only got two-year, $10 million, I can't imagine Lyles got more than that. It's gotta be somewhere between $6-9 million guaranteed, I'd think.

this is the same team that gave Gasol 16 million a year, so i wouldnt be surprised if its more