Official 2019-20 NBA Season Thread

[lefty]

Arbitrary data. Only 5 seconds and game tying don't count?

Move it to 6 seconds and Jordan has 2 such shots in one single game ~ 1989 1st Round

Lol @ ESPN

Still has more buzzer beaters than Demar Dejordan

[FrostKing]

Still has more buzzer beaters than Demar Dejordan
Within 5 seconds. And only to take lead. On a weekend. During American wartime. After 9/11.

[Dirks_Finale]

That was the one year the guy looked human, tbh. I had wondered if he was done being elite and on a downward slope until he redeemed himself the following season.

But I still can never recall him scoring 8 points in a NBA finals game and getting outscored in a series by a bench player like Lebron did with Jet Terry. :rollin


:lol Jordon choking hard here, doing the things LeBron gets criticized for


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3UJKQcP9HY

[Dirks_Finale]

On top of all that, Lebron has played like 3 more years. And oh yeah, he was in the weakest conference (leastern conference) in the history of professional sports. :sleep


Arbitrary data. Only 5 seconds and game tying don't count?

Move it to 6 seconds and Jordan has 2 such shots in one single game ~ 1989 1st Round

Lol @ ESPN

[lefty]

That was the one year the guy looked human, tbh. I had wondered if he was done being elite and on a downward slope until he redeemed himself the following season.

But I still can never recall him scoring 8 points in a NBA finals game and getting outscored in a series by a bench player like Lebron did with Jet Terry. :rollin

Excuses escuses

He also looked human on 4th quarters vs Detroit many times :lol

Jordan is a glorified DeRozan , period

[FrostKing]

Excuses escuses

He also looked human on 4th quarters vs Detroit many times :lol

Jordan is a glorified DeRozan , period
Fair enough. That makes Lebron a glorified Matt Bonner

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol

Jordan is a glorified DeRozan , period

Ridiculous.

[lefty]

Ridiculous.
DeRozan with iso ball, midrange, Stern protection and being guarded by accountant Ehlo or grocery bagger Stark?

40 ppg easily

[Dirks_Finale]

You are not taking into account the overall physicality of the two hand-checking, allowed era. Derozan goes to the lane in this weak defensive era and they clear it for him like they are making way for the Pope. Do that in the 90's and get wheeled out in a chair if you were playing Det/NYK/PHI And it's probably not even a flagrant foul.

And with Jordan you are talking 1st team all defense, nine times. Derozan is a 6'7 pylon in a Spur's jersey....

Nobody in their right mind is claiming that Lebron would not excel in the 90's. With that strength and quickness, there is no denying it. What people see lacking in him is killer instinct and clutchness. And I actually give him a pass more often than not on the lack of a clutch-gene argument, because he does make the right basketball play most of the time.


DeRozan with iso ball, midrange, Stern protection and being guarded by accountant Ehlo or grocery bagger Stark?

40 ppg easily

[daslicer]

You are not taking into account the overall physicality of the two hand-checking, allowed era. Derozan goes to the lane in this weak defensive era and they clear it for him like they are making way for the Pope. Do that in the 90's and get wheeled out in a chair if you were playing Det/NYK/PHI And it's probably not even a flagrant foul.

And with Jordan you are talking 1st team all defense, nine times. Derozan is a 6'7 pylon in a Spur's jersey....

Nobody in their right mind is claiming that Lebron would not excel in the 90's. With that strength and quickness, there is no denying it. What people see lacking in him is killer instinct and clutchness. And I actually give him a pass more often than not on the lack of a clutch-gene argument, because he does make the right basketball play most of the time.

Agreed. I'm watching this old Knicks vs Rockets game 7 and one thing I notice is how hard it is to get an open shot. The Rockets even back then were a team that relied heavily on the 3 point shot. If you watch this game you see how the Knicks are able to close in on all of their shooters simply because they are given leeway by the refs to bump and handcheck whoever has the ball on the perimeter. This was the norm back then during the 90's. If you implemented this type of rule today you would see 3 point shooting percentages drop along with attempts.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Jordon choking hard here, doing the things LeBron gets criticized for


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3UJKQcP9HY

:lol Magic Horace Grant getting carried off on Michael's home court.

[Spurtacular]

DeRozan with iso ball, midrange, Stern protection and being guarded by accountant Ehlo or grocery bagger Stark?

40 ppg easily

+1

[lefty]

You are not taking into account the overall physicality of the two hand-checking, allowed era. Derozan goes to the lane in this weak defensive era and they clear it for him like they are making way for the Pope. Do that in the 90's and get wheeled out in a chair if you were playing Det/NYK/PHI And it's probably not even a flagrant foul.

And with Jordan you are talking 1st team all defense, nine times. Derozan is a 6'7 pylon in a Spur's jersey....

Nobody in their right mind is claiming that Lebron would not excel in the 90's. With that strength and quickness, there is no denying it. What people see lacking in him is killer instinct and clutchness. And I actually give him a pass more often than not on the lack of a clutch-gene argument, because he does make the right basketball play most of the time.

Lol hand checking:

- it has 0 impact on skilled players

- it’s not defense; if you have to hand check then you’re a shit defensive player

- Refs called handchecking regularly back then (especially when someone was guarding Jordan ; don’t believe the old heads narratives

[Spurtacular]

Did Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert die yet?

It's a good thing the NBA canceled the season.

[Dirks_Finale]

If all you are doing is watching youtube clips from the 90's then you wont see it. But if you lived it and watched it, you saw two hands, hand checking allowed all the time. MJ did get preferential treatment but not right away. Detroit destroyed him for many years prior to that.

I don't disagree that you are not a great defensive player if it's all about physicality. It's why I never really respected Bowen and his antics. I thought Shawn Marion, for example was the better defender as he did it without placing his foot under jump shooters.


Lol hand checking:

- it has 0 impact on skilled players

- it’s not defense; if you have to hand check then you’re a shit defensive player

- Refs called handchecking regularly back then (especially when someone was guarding Jordan ; don’t believe the old heads narratives

[Dirks_Finale]

That series and John Starks bricks were hard on the eyes lol .


Agreed. I'm watching this old Knicks vs Rockets game 7 and one thing I notice is how hard it is to get an open shot. The Rockets even back then were a team that relied heavily on the 3 point shot. If you watch this game you see how the Knicks are able to close in on all of their shooters simply because they are given leeway by the refs to bump and handcheck whoever has the ball on the perimeter. This was the norm back then during the 90's. If you implemented this type of rule today you would see 3 point shooting percentages drop along with attempts.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/1249003608542232576?s=19

:lol at the Rockets

[InRareForm]

Bulls gm fired

[lefty]

RIP KAT's mom

(Covid)

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Hou5ton4L/status/1249790834666541061?s=19

:lol

[TimDunkem]

RIP KAT's mom

(Covid)

:(

[phxspurfan]

Did Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert die yet?

It's a good thing the NBA canceled the season.

What a horrible post, especially now in April since we know so much more.

If the NBA didn't stop even that game, much less the season, most of the NBA and coaches/training staff/support staff and their families would be infected. Some, especially the seniors and immunocompromised, could die or become severely ill. And that's a lot of support people who don't have millions to be able to afford 2-3 weeks in a hospital either.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/BobbyBeltTX/status/1249871903692595206?s=19
:lol

[Spurtacular]

What a horrible post, especially now in April since we know so much more.

If the NBA didn't stop even that game, much less the season, most of the NBA and coaches/training staff/support staff and their families would be infected. Some, especially the seniors and immunocompromised, could die or become severely ill. And that's a lot of support people who don't have millions to be able to afford 2-3 weeks in a hospital either.

Yea, we know unhealthy people sometimes die from COVID 19. Basically what we knew in the first place.

[ambchang]

https://twitter.com/BobbyBeltTX/status/1249871903692595206?s=19
:lol

Ray allen continues to be one of the more overrated players.

[Bynumite]

Ray Allen was the best player on a ECF team at one point. Ginobili is a career bench player.

[LkrFan]

Ray allen continues to be one of the more overrated players.

Ray > Beak and you know it son. -50 points :lol

[ambchang]

Ray > Beak and you know it son. -50 points :lol

Beak?

[LkrFan]

Beak?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/505361552/manunose.jpg

:lol

[daslicer]

Ray > Beak and you know it son. -50 points :lol

You are going to trigger an influx of Manutards with that comment.

[Robz4000]

Ray Allen was the best player on a ECF team at one point. Ginobili is a career bench player.

So was Paul Millsap tbh.

[LkrFan]

You are going to trigger an influx of Manutards with that comment.

:lol

[ambchang]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/505361552/manunose.jpg

:lol

:lol

Allen is a poor man’s Reggie Miller.

[LkrFan]

:lol

Allen is a poor man’s Reggie Miller.

Reggie and Ray >> Beak. -50 more points son. :lol

[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/BobbyBeltTX/status/1249871903692595206?s=19
:lol

Lol. Allen, easily. Pierce too. Come on Felipe, do better.

[LkrFan]

Lol. Allen, easily. Pierce too. Come on Felipe, do better.

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1250101495523131392?s=19

The Sp*rs would be light a chip if the Phoenix Suns and Rockets were competent. SMH

[Fabbs]

The Sp*rs would be light a chip if the Phoenix Suns and Rockets were competent. SMH
If it weren't for rigged calls role players like Kirby and Ray Allen would have maybe 1 Championship at the most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RB8xqFmLzw

[lefty]

Westbrook donated 650 laptops to kids in need so they can take online classes :tu

[Spurtacular]

This is why I keep saying that NBA GMs are the dumbest executives in sport if not outright.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlArUJWkAIV8Ff?format=jpg&name=large

[Spurtacular]

Westbrook donated 650 laptops to kids in need so they can take online classes :tu

Not gonna hate on that. Let's just hope he's not one of these dumb asses that gonna be flat broke after his career though.

[Spurtacular]

If it weren't for rigged calls role players like Kirby and Ray Allen would have maybe 1 Championship at the most.

I have to agree. Even the 2000 Lakers may have fallen to the eight seed Kings without the benefit of calls.

[FrostKing]

This is why I keep saying that NBA GMs are the dumbest executives in sport if not outright.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlArUJWkAIV8Ff?format=jpg&name=large
NBA has the highest percentage of blacks in decision making roles

[Spurtacular]

NBA has the highest percentage of blacks in decision making roles

Yea, but there's a lot of really dumb white GMs as well, tbh.

[lefty]

This is why I keep saying that NBA GMs are the dumbest executives in sport if not outright.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlArUJWkAIV8Ff?format=jpg&name=large

Lol

[FrostKing]

2009 Lakers vs Magic

Orlando suffered from inferior leadership on the court. Van Gundy was quality HC. That series should have gone at-least 6 games.


But Magic were an interesting team possibly the most unlikely Finals team of the past 15 years. They were in need of a veteran scoring guard.

[lefty]

2009 Lakers vs Magic

Orlando suffered from inferior leadership on the court. Van Gundy was quality HC. That series should have gone at-least 6 games.


But Magic were an interesting team possibly the most unlikely Finals team of the past 15 years. They were in need of a veteran scoring guard.
Svg was great but he fucked up by playing Jameer in crunch tome

Heck he should have never brought played him

Alston and Hedo were killing the Lakers

[FrostKing]

Svg was great but he fucked up by playing Jameer in crunch tome

Heck he should have never brought played him

Alston and Hedo were killing the Lakers
Magic had 3 point shooting at every position except Point Guard. Yes ultimately Jameer failed and Lowry hit the timely three

[Spurtacular]

2009 Lakers vs Magic

Orlando suffered from inferior leadership on the court. Van Gundy was quality HC. That series should have gone at-least 6 games.


But Magic were an interesting team possibly the most unlikely Finals team of the past 15 years. They were in need of a veteran scoring guard.

Weakest finalist in NBA history. Possibly Kobe's most legit championship cos of that.

[LkrFan]

2009 Lakers vs Magic

Orlando suffered from inferior leadership on the court. Van Gundy was quality HC. That series should have gone at-least 6 games.


But Magic were an interesting team possibly the most unlikely Finals team of the past 15 years. They were in need of a veteran scoring guard.

2009 Magic >>>> 1999 Knicks :lmao

[FrostKing]

Weakest finalist in NBA history. Possibly Kobe's most legit championship cos of that.
What would the record show if it were Kobe's back2back versus Celtics 1 title

3 Finals in the Row in the West, granted accomplished with a heavy handed Grizzlies trade.

[FrostKing]

2009 Magic >>>> 1999 Knicks :lmao
Close but I like Knicks.

Especially with Houston, Ward, and Larry from 3 point for a defensive team.

Latrell versus Pietrus?......Magic downfall

[Spurtacular]

What would the record show if it were Kobe's back2back versus Celtics 1 title

3 Finals in the Row in the West, granted accomplished with a heavy handed Grizzlies trade.

Yea, my bad. It's really Pau's title. He was the head of the snake. For purposes of convo I said Kobe though.

[FrostKing]

Yea, my bad. It's really Pau's title. He was the head of the snake. For purposes of convo I said Kobe though.
Off the record but are there Non-Spurs you liked?

[Spurtacular]

Off the record but are there Non-Spurs you liked?

For what?

[FrostKing]

For what?
I hated Shaq then Kobe came and eventually Lebron. Dislike is passed on and you end up respecting the previous version.

There is an argument made that sports especially team sports; are made with rivals & rivalries. You are better than your greatest rival...

[Spurtacular]

I hated Shaq then Kobe came and eventually Lebron. Dislike is passed on and you end up respecting the previous version.

There is an argument made that sports especially team sports; are made with rivals & rivalries. You are better than your greatest rival...

I don't dislike the players so much as the system.

Jordan, Kobe, LBJ got away with sh** cos the league catered to them.

That's not changing. Culture is too dumb to create that kind of impetus.

But I won't worship the rings. The system took away from players like Stockon, Bird, and Duncan and gave them to Jordan, Kobe, and Earvin.

[FrostKing]

I don't dislike the players so much as the system.

Jordan, Kobe, LBJ got away with sh** cos the league catered to them.

That's not changing. Culture is too dumb to create that kind of impetus.

But I won't worship the rings. The system took away from players like Stockon, Bird, and Duncan and gave them to Jordan, Kobe, and Earvin.
While I agree with your premise, I think more athletic players prospered. They all got calls but Stockton/Bird/Duncan chose to be team players within a system.

IE: Duncan not joining Grant in Orlando.

[Spurtacular]

While I agree with your premise, I think more athletic players prospered. They all got calls but Stockton/Bird/Duncan chose to be team players within a system.

Bird took Jordan to the woodshed. In 87 and 88, the company men had to put in OT on Lakers games against the Mavs, Jazz, Celtics, etc.

If you're arguing they don't ref for results, I can't help you.

[FrostKing]

Bird took Jordan to the woodshed. In 87 and 88, the company men had to put in OT on Lakers games against the Mavs, Jazz, Celtics, etc.

If you're arguing they don't ref for results, I can't help you.
Yes Bird was the superior player at that time.

Those players seasons overlap and you consider ref advantage. Most those players peak is only 3-4 seasons as MVP.

They receive advantage at each of their peaks

[LkrFan]

Close but I like Knicks.

Especially with Houston, Ward, and Larry from 3 point for a defensive team.

Latrell versus Pietrus?......Magic downfall

:lol

[Brazil]

DeRozan with iso ball, midrange, Stern protection and being guarded by accountant Ehlo or grocery bagger Stark?

40 ppg easily

:lmao

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/Zv0RDEcJptg

[lefty]

Magic had 3 point shooting at every position except Point Guard. Yes ultimately Jameer failed and Lowry hit the timely three

They were shooting 3s just fine in the series : Alston, Hedo, Lewis

Fisher couldn’t keep up with Alston who was masterful at controlling the tempo

Lakers had no answer for Hedo who was killing them on the pick and rolls (he was also causing trouble for the Lakers in the 2002 playoffs)

Nelson was coming from an injury and looked lost
And he left Fosher take that game tying 3 in game 4 :lol

[daslicer]

2009 Magic >>>> 1999 Knicks :lmao

Spree and Houston is better than anything the Magic had on the perimeter. Magic had Dwight but Knicks frontline was still better than the Magic with Camby,Thomas,Johnson,Dudley.

[phxspurfan]

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1250101495523131392?s=19

The Sp*rs would be light a chip if the Phoenix Suns and Rockets were competent. SMH

as much as he sweated through his lies in this interview?

5250-Q5gWtc

3:32
"Would you like to finish your career as a Spur?"
"...yeah...uh...sure."

[daslicer]

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1250101495523131392?s=19

The Sp*rs would be light a chip if the Phoenix Suns and Rockets were competent. SMH

Can't blame Phoenix. #2 is the Black Forrest Gump. I don't think anybody could have envisioned him being great outside of being a defensive player. Could you imagine interviewing a guy that sounds retarded and weird and thinking he had room for growth as a player.

[phxspurfan]

Can't blame Phoenix. #2 is the Black Forrest Gump. I don't think anybody could have envisioned him being great outside of being a defensive player. Could you imagine interviewing a guy that sounds retarded and weird and thinking he had room for growth as a player.

Either of the Morris twins (who went before Kawhi) were better players coming into the draft. We developed Kawhi from being a piece of crap with big hands to a piece of crap with big hands and a decent jump shot and an ego.

[daslicer]

Either of the Morris twins (who went before Kawhi) were better players coming into the draft. We developed Kawhi from being a piece of crap with big hands to a piece of crap with big hands and a decent jump shot and an ego.

I was randomly watching this old Ernest movie last night and it made me think of #2. Ernest is a retard that suddenly became great out of nowhere on his basketball team and then let his ego get corrupted. Watch from 1:10:00 to 1:14:00 you will see Ernest's new ego take over much like #2 did after 2016.
45KN9Qs9hHk

[LkrFan]

as much as he sweated through his lies in this interview?

5250-Q5gWtc

3:32
"Would you like to finish your career as a Spur?"
"...yeah...uh...sure."

:lol


Can't blame Phoenix. #2 is the Black Forrest Gump. I don't think anybody could have envisioned him being great outside of being a defensive player. Could you imagine interviewing a guy that sounds retarded and weird and thinking he had room for growth as a player.

You always take a chance on a good defensive player. Players can learn to shoot over time. Biggest example is Patrick Ewing. Coming out of Georgetown, he couldn't shoot outside of 5 feet. He eventually could hit 17 footers regularly. Karl Malone too.

Yes, I blame the Suns and djohn2oo8's RockettesPERIOD.

[lefty]

Spurms fans still bitter about Kawhi leaving :lol

[FrostKing]

BJ Armstrong named Hakeem & Duncan when asked which players were nearest to Jordan's level

[Spurtacular]

I was randomly watching this old Ernest movie last night and it made me think of #2. Ernest is a retard that suddenly became great out of nowhere on his basketball team and then let his ego get corrupted. Watch from 1:10:00 to 1:14:00 you will see Ernest's new ego take over much like #2 did after 2016.
45KN9Qs9hHk

Maybe not so random. Same sh** popped into my suggested vids. I was tempted to watch; but I got paid subscriptions that I ain't even getting around to watching everything.

[daslicer]

Maybe not so random. Same sh** popped into my suggested vids. I was tempted to watch; but I got paid subscriptions that I ain't even getting around to watching everything.

It’s worth watching from a comedy stand point. I was laughing hard from all the insults that were thrown at Ernest throughout the movie.

[Spurtacular]

It’s worth watching from a comedy stand point. I was laughing hard from all the insults that were thrown at Ernest throughout the movie.

My brother was a pretty big fan back in the day. I know those movies were better than his show. That's why I considered it. Might get to it.

[phxspurfan]

NBA TV showing Knicks-Pacers ECF '94. It's like they admit mid-late 90s was NBA's peak years

[daslicer]

NBA TV showing Knicks-Pacers ECF '94. It's like they admit mid-late 90s was NBA's peak years

A lot of people hate great defense but as a kid growing up during the 90's I always enjoyed those type of games. I felt when you have great defense it makes guys compete hard versus the opposite.

[FrostKing]

A lot of people hate great defense but as a kid growing up during the 90's I always enjoyed those type of games. I felt when you have great defense it makes guys compete hard versus the opposite.
Ultimately: the mental game. Those days every possession was dissected. Now it is program generated based on 1,000+ possessions. There is less of "challenging his manhood". And if they fail just blame it on the simulation

90s - More focused on matchups as switching was less prevalent. Go over screens....

[lefty]

A lot of people hate great defense but as a kid growing up during the 90's I always enjoyed those type of games. I felt when you have great defense it makes guys compete hard versus the opposite.

People hate on the 94 Finals because of the low of the low scoring but the defensive intensity was great tbh

[Spurtacular]

People hate on the 94 Finals because of the low of the low scoring but the defensive intensity was great tbh

It was good. Cutting away from it to watch a white Bronco was some serious bull shit. NBC should be ashamed of themselves.

There's three other fucking networks showing the same thing.

[lefty]

It was good. Cutting away from it to watch a white Bronco was some serious bull shit. NBC should be ashamed of themselves.

There's three other fucking networks showing the same thing.

Yup dumb move tbh
But NBC loved sensationalism

[Dirks_Finale]

I've always wondered if they still show the white Bronco if it's Jordan in the Finals. The media was scared of him so I doubt it.


It was good. Cutting away from it to watch a white Bronco was some serious bull shit. NBC should be ashamed of themselves.

There's three other fucking networks showing the same thing.

[lefty]

I've always wondered if they still show the white Bronco if it's Jordan in the Finals. The media was scared of him so I doubt it.

Good point

[TDMVPDPOY]

BJ Armstrong named Hakeem & Duncan when asked which players were nearest to Jordan's level

hakeem fans make it sould like those 2 peak years his been playing like that his whole career upto the date he injured/traded

[Robz4000]

AD put his house in LA up for sale. Good luck in Chitown!

[Dirks_Finale]

Does that mean Lebron goes back to the lottery? Or he asks for a trade to a stacked team?


AD put his house in LA up for sale. Good luck in Chitown!

[Robz4000]

Does that mean Lebron goes back to the lottery? Or he asks for a trade to a stacked team?

Couldn't he be a free agent after this season? Thought he signed a 2+1 deal.

[daslicer]

People hate on the 94 Finals because of the low of the low scoring but the defensive intensity was great tbh

Agreed. I saw play during the NBA TV replay of game 7 where Oakley,Ewing,Starks all dived for a lose ball at the same time. I was amazed at how hyper competitive that game was. You don't see that type of intensity today.

[Dirks_Finale]

Agreed. I saw play during the NBA TV replay of game 7 where Oakley,Ewing,Starks all dived for a lose ball at the same time. I was amazed at how hyper competitive that game was. You don't see that type of intensity today.

Old school players did that all the time. Now you only see that intensity in certain playoff situations. And that's probably why players have longer careers now. Manu was one of the few who played with all out intensity and had a long career.

[LkrFan]

I've always wondered if they still show the white Bronco if it's Jordan in the Finals. The media was scared of him so I doubt it.

They would have cutaway from any of the Spurs Finals to boost ratings :lmao

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol

Do the spur's finals (less Miami series) get better ratings than the H-O-R-S-E games we have on now?


They would have cutaway from any of the Spurs Finals to boost ratings :lmao

[LkrFan]

:lol

Do the spur's finals (less Miami series) get better ratings than the H-O-R-S-E games we have on now?

Probably not :lol

[lefty]

A rookie doing more than owners

https://twitter.com/br_nba/status/1252326001113096192?s=21

Bleacher Report NBA
@BR_NBA
·
21h
RJ Barrett has made $250K worth of donations to COVID-19 relief efforts in New York and Canada that include:

▪️ 200,000 meals
▪️ Face masks
▪️ Gowns
▪️ KN95 masks
▪️ Disposable face shields
▪️ Microporous disposable coverall

[phxspurfan]

:lol

Do the spur's finals (less Miami series) get better ratings than the H-O-R-S-E games we have on now?

The WNBA chick on one of the Horse games was pretty hot tbh. Too bad she plays for the other team

[szkorhetz]

The WNBA chick on one of the Horse games was pretty hot tbh. Too bad she plays for the other team
She used to play for the Silver Stars, but became famous playing for my home town team here, in Hungary.
Actually, Allie got a hungarian citizenship.

When I was young, I made a "video mix" of her heroics.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0h4KH7JJ7w&t

[MultiTroll]

^ would you guys rather have Allie or Chrissy Paul on your team?

I'll take Allie.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Yungnigerian/status/1104489752047292416?s=19

:lol

[daslicer]

https://twitter.com/Yungnigerian/status/1104489752047292416?s=19

:lol

Amazing how you converted to the Church of Lebron the moment he joined the Lakers.

[LkrFan]

Amazing how you converted to the Church of Lebron the moment he joined the Lakers.

I did the same for Mailman and GP. Name on the front >>> name on the back. I plead innocent your honor. :downspin:

[Michael Jordan.]

LkrFan. Remind be what LeBron did to Dirk in the 2011 finals?

[LkrFan]

LkrFan. Remind be what LeBron did to Dirk in the 2011 finals?

Remind me of what Har_en did in any WCFs :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Remind me of what Har_en did in any WCFs :lol
I agree. Now, you expect LeBron to have beat those Celtics, when he got his shit pushed in by the same coach who used to play for those Celtics? :lol

[LkrFan]

I agree. Now, you expect LeBron to have beat those Celtics, when he got his shit pushed in by the same coach who used to play for those Celtics? :lol

Why you fronting for non-Rocket players under an alt tho? :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Why you fronting for non-Rocket players under an alt tho? :lol
This account is under new management. Has been for 3 years. Btw, has Bron made the playoffs in the West?

[LkrFan]

9FnO3igOkOk

djohn2oo8 did you order .Michael Jordan to troll me for no good reason? Answer the question! :lol

[LkrFan]

This account is under new management. Has been for 3 years. Btw, has Bron made the playoffs in the West?

:lmao

Nope, not yet. Season not over :lol

[LkrFan]

This nigga sed new Management :rollin :lmao :rollin

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/Yungnigerian/status/1104489752047292416?s=19

:lol
https://memesbams.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/9-Putin-Laughing-Gif.gif

[LkrFan]

https://memesbams.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/9-Putin-Laughing-Gif.gif

:lol

[lefty]

:lol
lol the tweet with John Starks and Steph
Tje one with Havlicek and Lebron too :lol

[LkrFan]

lol the tweet with John Starks and Steph
Tje one with Havlicek and Lebron too :lol

BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA!! :lmao

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol
9FnO3igOkOk

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) did you order .Michael Jordan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3) to troll me for no good reason? Answer the question! :lol

[Spurtacular]

She used to play for the Silver Stars, but became famous playing for my home town team here, in Hungary.
Actually, Allie got a hungarian citizenship.

When I was young, I made a "video mix" of her heroics.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0h4KH7JJ7w&t

:lol Might as well post 24 Hour Fitness pickup games next.

[Kawhitstorm]

Spree and Houston is better than anything the Magic had on the perimeter. Magic had Dwight but Knicks frontline was still better than the Magic with Camby,Thomas,Johnson,Dudley.

[ElNono]

Lol. Allen, easily. Pierce too. Come on Felipe, do better.

KG was also a failed franchise player project... had to do the superteam thing to ring...

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/Yungnigerian/status/1104489752047292416?s=19

:lol

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

9FnO3igOkOk

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) did you order .Michael Jordan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3) to troll me for no good reason? Answer the question! :lol
It’s not my account anymore.

[LkrFan]

It’s not my account anymore.

Oh yeah, "it's under new Management" :lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/MadDogRadio/status/1256010941352808448?s=09

Nick went ham :wow

[lefty]

Nick is an annoying fanboy but he is right

[FrostKing]

Jordan averaged 33 PPG over 5 seasons in the 1980's

[Dirks_Finale]

Nick Wright actually said defenses are better now. He actually said that :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93Edk7xtw

[140]

Nick Wrong :lol

[lefty]

Nick Wright actually said defenses are better now. He actually said that :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93Edk7xtw

They are

More mobile defenders, better at switching, players can cover more ground , longer more athletic players, less plumbers and matth teachers, more defensive schemes , zone D

« Physicality » and hand checking are myths that need to die, they are just exaggerated by the media and Jordan stans to glorify Jordan by making it look like he had it tough and overcame Thanos, Bane, Dr Doom and Sidious.

Scorers like MJ and Kobe admitted they hated playing against zone D

Today’s NBA superstars would obliterate 80s and 90s shitty defenses :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

They are

More mobile defenders, better at switching, players can cover more ground , longer more athletic players, less plumbers and matth teachers, more defensive schemes , zone D

« Physicality » and hand checking are myths that need to die, they are just exaggerated by the media and Jordan stans to glorify Jordan by making it look like he had it tough and overcame Thanos, Bane, Dr Doom and Sidious.

Scorers like MJ and Kobe admitted they hated playing against zone D

Today’s NBA superstars would obliterate 80s and 90s shitty defenses :lol

Somebody like Jkidd had such strong hands that once he got them on you...you weren't going anywhere. And these players were allowed to hold with 2 hands. I saw this everytime I watched a game in the 90s, especially in the postseason.

What's really changed are the rules designed to bring ppg up.

And just because a player was white doesn't mean he was some slobbish janitor converted into an NBA player. That's a huge myth I have only seen perpetuated in this forum. We had several Kyle Korver types back then. And I'll remind you that that guy actually made an all star team lol.

Somebody like Aingle was Kyle Korver with larger than pea sized testicles. They played with a tenacity that you rarely see today. I guess they are all worried if they play with more fire, someone might get offended. And we can't have that.

I'll give you this, more guys can take and make 3's now. But most of those guys have no reliable midrange game. And as we saw with Kawhi last postseason, it sure comes in handy late in games when defenses tighten up and that 3 ain't falling.

[LkrFan]

Nick Wright actually said defenses are better now. He actually said that :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93Edk7xtw

The schemes are better. Way better. They just can't be as physical as they used to (like hand checking). That's why the offensive numbers have skyrocketed.

Ben Harden wouldn't average 35 in the 90s, for example. Jordan never played against a zone, for another example.

Defenses today are better and the current NBA players are more skilled than the plumbers Jordan dominated :lol

[LkrFan]

They are

More mobile defenders, better at switching, players can cover more ground , longer more athletic players, less plumbers and matth teachers, more defensive schemes , zone D

« Physicality » and hand checking are myths that need to die, they are just exaggerated by the media and Jordan stans to glorify Jordan by making it look like he had it tough and overcame Thanos, Bane, Dr Doom and Sidious.

Scorers like MJ and Kobe admitted they hated playing against zone D

Today’s NBA superstars would obliterate 80s and 90s shitty defenses :lol

Truth bombs :lol

Magic still better than Bird tho. :toast

[FrostKing]

They are

More mobile defenders, better at switching, players can cover more ground , longer more athletic players, less plumbers and matth teachers, more defensive schemes , zone D

« Physicality » and hand checking are myths that need to die, they are just exaggerated by the media and Jordan stans to glorify Jordan by making it look like he had it tough and overcame Thanos, Bane, Dr Doom and Sidious.

Scorers like MJ and Kobe admitted they hated playing against zone D

Today’s NBA superstars would obliterate 80s and 90s shitty defenses :lol
All the schemes in the World won't mask lack of intelligence and effort. Defense is an attitude.

The players are dumber (less College) and lazier (plumbers vs IG models).

[Spurtacular]

Jordan averaged 33 PPG over 5 seasons in the 1980's

Not passing the ball to teammates while jacking up shot after shot will do that. Just ask James Harden.

[lefty]

Not passing the ball to teammates while jacking up shot after shot will do that. Just ask James Harden.as Sharpe said : before Pippen, Jordan was Russell Westbrook before Russell Westbrook »

[Spurtacular]

as Sharpe said : before Pippen, Jordan was Russell Westbrook before Russell Westbrook »

:tu

[Dirks_Finale]

Kevin Durant >>> The crackheads Jordan had to play with in the 80's

Jacking up a bunch of shots with that scrub team was the right thing to do at that time.


Not passing the ball to teammates while jacking up shot after shot will do that. Just ask James Harden.

[lefty]

Where is Clipper Nation by the way?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Where is Clipper Nation by the way?

He moved to greenland

[LkrFan]

as Sharpe said : before Pippen, Jordan was Russell Westbrook before Russell Westbrook »

Air Chucky :lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1257388245895258117?s=19

CA Governor: Lakers can begin practicing. Clippers can continue load managing :lol

[daslicer]

https://twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1257388245895258117?s=19

CA Governor: Lakers can begin practicing. Clippers can continue load managing :lol

They can begin practicing for the 20-21 season.

[LkrFan]

He moved to greenland

:lol

[Fabbs]

https://twitter.com/JeremyBWhite/status/1257388245895258117?s=19

CA Governor: Lakers can begin practicing. Clippers can continue load managing :lol
Can the Lakers put up a banner claiming they are Champions of the last two months?
I mean they should just claim it, Lakers style.
Next to their banner for 1938 Minneapolis.

[Dirks_Finale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS2CqnbFLfk

[Spurtacular]

Can the Lakers put up a banner claiming they are Champions of the last two months?
I mean they should just claim it, Lakers style.
Next to their banner for 1938 Minneapolis.

T-Wolves deserve their banners back.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Jody_McFly/status/1258045370954928128?s=19

:lol

[Spurtacular]

These ass hats better not go straight to the playoffs.

https://sports.yahoo.com/76ers-already-preparing-potential-nba-201120442.html

[Spurtacular]

Mark Cuban is still a douche.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-says-team-wont-open-practice-facility-despite-approval-from-nba/

[Fabbs]

No, Orange Dooshes refusal to accept tests and then blathering about how there will "be tests for everybody" is the problem.

[spurraider21]

:lol longo

1258131754298343435

[Fabbs]

:lol longo
Still looks skinny by NBA standards.

Spotter and he breathing on each other. But I cut any offspring of Ball huge amounts of slack. To have overcome that dipstick is huge.

[lefty]

Lonzo Ball would have been Magic Johnson if he played in the 80s

[Dirks_Finale]

Very impressive.

Can he hit a free throw yet?


:lol longo

1258131754298343435

[Dirks_Finale]

Lonzo Ball would have been Magic Johnson if he played in the 80s

Laughable. 6 ft 9 point who posts you up at will and sees the entire floor.

[Neo.]

6 ft 9 point who posts you up at will and sees the entire floor.

with no jumper, mediocre post moves, an abnormally high dribble and plays no defense

oh but he throws unnecessary no look passes over his shoulder to wide open players in transition, what a great floor general!

magic was great for his time and did his part in bringing a new type of excitement charisma and joy to the game of basketball, but dudes arguably not even a top 5 player in the league today. he wouldnt be able to get away with playing PG because he would get ate up on defense with ease (lol at the thought of him guarding steph, dame, cp3, etc...)

hed have to play power forward while the team puts a traditional small guard on the floor, which throws off the whole mismatch issue he brought to the table in the 80s, and completely negates his post-up "advantage" since guys would be the same size as him, and he didn't really have particularly great footwork. his main post-up skill was having a solid hook shot.

his flaws would be so horribly exposed its not even funny lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1258828681893511168?s=19

:toast

[lefty]

with no jumper, mediocre post moves, an abnormally high dribble and plays no defense

oh but he throws unnecessary no look passes over his shoulder to wide open players in transition, what a great floor general!

magic was great for his time and did his part in bringing a new type of excitement charisma and joy to the game of basketball, but dudes arguably not even a top 5 player in the league today. he wouldnt be able to get away with playing PG because he would get ate up on defense with ease (lol at the thought of him guarding steph, dame, cp3, etc...)

hed have to play power forward while the team puts a traditional small guard on the floor, which throws off the whole mismatch issue he brought to the table in the 80s, and completely negates his post-up "advantage" since guys would be the same size as him, and he didn't really have particularly great footwork. his main post-up skill was having a solid hook shot.

his flaws would be so horribly exposed its not even funny lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/deetrippy12/status/1258842043000016897?s=19

Accurate. SMH :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

with no jumper, mediocre post moves, an abnormally high dribble and plays no defense

oh but he throws unnecessary no look passes over his shoulder to wide open players in transition, what a great floor general!

magic was great for his time and did his part in bringing a new type of excitement charisma and joy to the game of basketball, but dudes arguably not even a top 5 player in the league today. he wouldnt be able to get away with playing PG because he would get ate up on defense with ease (lol at the thought of him guarding steph, dame, cp3, etc...)

hed have to play power forward while the team puts a traditional small guard on the floor, which throws off the whole mismatch issue he brought to the table in the 80s, and completely negates his post-up "advantage" since guys would be the same size as him, and he didn't really have particularly great footwork. his main post-up skill was having a solid hook shot.

his flaws would be so horribly exposed its not even funny lol

He's jumper is not Lonzo Ball bad come on now lol.

And I have to ask this to all the game is so much better now folks...do you guys honestly think players like Magic or Jordan or whoever wouldn't have been able work on the 3 point shot and become good shooters? I mean seriously, Jordan transformed himself from an above the rim player to a money ball turn around jumper on the baseline player. And he did it seemingly overnight. JKidd used to build mansions with all his bricks. Then as his body slowed down became a sniper from distance. Even Lebron, this generation's hero,(lol) had a shit shot that got exposed. Then worked on it and he became a more than respectable shooter.

The only reason these guys didn't work on the 3 more is because, as we all know, it was considered a bad shot. They do just fine in this era.

I wont defend Magic's defense because it flat out sucked and would stink in any era. You hide him the same way you hid Dirk, Tony Parker, James Harden or any other weak defender

[Neo.]

He's jumper is not Lonzo Ball bad come on now lol

never said it was, although tbh lonzo actually has range and hits his threes pretty consistently these days, its just ugly looking


And I have to ask this to all the game is so much better now folks...do you guys honestly think players like Magic or Jordan or whoever wouldn't have been able work on the 3 point shot and become good shooters? I mean seriously, Jordan transformed himself from an above the rim player to a money ball turn around jumper on the baseline player. And he did it seemingly overnight. JKidd used to build mansions with all his bricks. Then as his body slowed down became a sniper from distance. Even Lebron, this generation's hero,(lol) had a shit shot that got exposed. Then worked on it and he became a more than respectable shooter.

i don't disagree with this at all, but until the "game used to be so much better" folks who claim that lebron cant take the physical play of the 80s and 90s (first off its stupid to think he cant, and second if it was the common style of play then im sure he would be just as unbothered by it like anyone else was) or whatever other similarly retarded claims you make, then i don't care to address this side of it either


The only reason these guys didn't work on the 3 more is because, as we all know, it was considered a bad shot. They do just fine in this era.

i would like to think so, but the reality is, they didnt have that shot. we can only go off what we have seen, and it was very obvious that magic and mike did not have good long distance jumpers. and as a counter argument, if they spend more time working on the 3, then perhaps magics hook shot isnt as good, or mikes midrange isnt as good.

[Dirks_Finale]

never said it was, although tbh lonzo actually has range and hits his threes pretty consistently these days, its just ugly looking



i don't disagree with this at all, but until the "game used to be so much better" folks who claim that lebron cant take the physical play of the 80s and 90s (first off its stupid to think he cant, and second if it was the common style of play then im sure he would be just as unbothered by it like anyone else was) or whatever other similarly retarded claims you make, then i don't care to address this side of it either



i would like to think so, but the reality is, they didnt have that shot. we can only go off what we have seen, and it was very obvious that magic and mike did not have good long distance jumpers. and as a counter argument, if they spend more time working on the 3, then perhaps magics hook shot isnt as good, or mikes midrange isnt as good.

And to counter your counter -- if Jordan could avg 37 ppg without a 3 point shot, then one could logically surmise he could avg 45+ with one. The what if scenarios are endless.

Just to be clear on Lebron...he's big, strong and fast. That means he would do well in any era. In fact, he's the best athlete I've ever seen-- he just isnt the best basketball player.

I rib Lebrons fans because, let's keep it 100 -- these guys have it easier now with no real enforcing bigs out there to rough them up. And the overall lack of physicality and rule changes designed to give wing players room to operate. Load management is not much of a thing for Lebron but it is for everyone else. So while you guys harp on grocery bagger Starks and expansion, we counter with todays stars playing depleted lineups thanks to load management. Neither era is without weak points.

[lefty]

^
SMH

Lebron would have no problem dunking on those bigs

People seem to forget Lebron is built like Karl Malone who did just fine in the paint, and James is far more skilled


And Jordan benefitted from load management he was rested when he came back in 95 thanks to 1.5 year of load management

[FrostKing]

^
SMH

Lebron would have no problem dunking on those bigs

People seem to forget Lebron is built like Karl Malone who did just fine in the paint, and James is far more skilled


And Jordan benefitted from load management he was rested when he came back in 95 thanks to 1.5 year of load management
Malone had a vicious elbow. Lebron doesn't like to bang. Prefers to drift around the 3pt line

[Dirks_Finale]

I think we can argue that Lebron doesn't have this sort of longevity if he is constantly being knocked on his ass by Mahorn, Laimbeer, Rodman, Oakley, Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, etc, etc.

And then his career numbers sink. And with his abysmal Finals record, his fans have no leg to stand on.. Still a top 10 player overall, though.

[FrostKing]

Agreed. Definitely in the same group as Hakeem, Shaq and Kobe. No shame in that.

[lefty]

I think we can argue that Lebron doesn't have this sort of longevity if he is constantly being knocked on his ass by Mahorn, Laimbeer, Rodman, Oakley, Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, etc, etc.

And then his career numbers sink. And with his abysmal Finals record, his fans have no leg to stand on.. Still a top 10 player overall, though.
:lol thinking Lebron would have been knocked down by those dudes
It would have bern the opposite actually, Lebron with his frame coming down at thise guys full speed, RIP some of them

[FrostKing]

:lol thinking Lebron would have been knocked down by those dudes
It would have bern the opposite actually, Lebron with his frame coming down at thise guys full speed, RIP some of them
Lebron would not have lifted weights back then. Just another KG. On the flipside James attends College and has actual fundamentals and go to moves

I see Bernard King, not Shawn Kemp.

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol thinking Lebron would have been knocked down by those dudes
It would have bern the opposite actually, Lebron with his frame coming down at thise guys full speed, RIP some of them

Haha you know these guys were experts are hurting people right? Go back and watch some Detroit vs Chicago games. Jordan would get hit by 2, sometimes three of those vatos. Is your superhero going to plow through 5-600 pound wall? Not happening lol

I know its real impressive watching him barrell through midget loud mouth Draymond, but then it was a little tougher :lol

[lefty]

Haha you know these guys were experts are hurting people right? Go back and watch some Detroit vs Chicago games. Jordan would get hit by 2, sometimes three of those vatos. Is your superhero going to plow through 5-600 pound wall? Not happening lol

I know its real impressive watching him barrell through midget loud mouth Draymond, but then it was a little tougher :lol
And did Jordan survive?
Yea he did

So I’m sure Lebron who is bigger and stronger would have been fine

[Neo.]

And to counter your counter -- if Jordan could avg 37 ppg without a 3 point shot, then one could logically surmise he could avg 45+ with one. The what if scenarios are endless.

So your thinking is that on top of his already taking around 34 shots a game (accounting 1 shot for 2 FTAs), he would be taking around another 6-7 three-point shots per game on top of that in order to make an additional 2.7 3PM each game to get 45ppg. I'm pretty confident if Lebron took 40+ shots a game he could average 45+ppg as well. So basically your point is, if Mike takes more shots, he would score more points. Yep. Astounding logic :tu


Just to be clear on Lebron...he's big, strong and fast. That means he would do well in any era. In fact, he's the best athlete I've ever seen-- he just isnt the best basketball player.

to each their own. but that wasn't even part of the argument. at all. typical jordan-stan, making comparisons of players that weren't even brought up as a comparison. if mike is so unquestionably the greatest, then why do you keep trying to make your case, to the point of bringing it up when no one even brought it up? :rolleyes


I rib Lebrons fans because, let's keep it 100 -- these guys have it easier now with no real enforcing bigs out there to rough them up. And the overall lack of physicality and rule changes designed to give wing players room to operate.

lebrons had plenty of people try to rough him up and give him cheap shots. and has never once responded the way they wanted him to. hes well known for either brushing it off like its nothing, absorbing the contact and finishing with the foul, or he outsmarts them with a well executed flop to get a couple extra freethrows and make them look like a fool for even trying, and that pretty much brings an end to that. lets not act like lebron has been successfully bullied at any point in his career.


Load management is not much of a thing for Lebron but it is for everyone else. So while you guys harp on grocery bagger Starks and expansion, we counter with todays stars playing depleted lineups thanks to load management. Neither era is without weak points.

what the heck are you even talking about? no one load manages during the playoffs, which is all that really ends up mattering anyways. lebron proved that beyond a doubt by playing just hard enough to make the playoffs then dragging that group of cretins to the finals in 2017-2018.

[Neo.]

I think we can argue that Lebron doesn't have this sort of longevity if he is constantly being knocked on his ass by Mahorn, Laimbeer, Rodman, Oakley, Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, etc, etc.

And then his career numbers sink. And with his abysmal Finals record, his fans have no leg to stand on.. Still a top 10 player overall, though.

hm

whats tougher to beat

a team that has less talent than yours, but has a lumbering oaf or two who will jump into you from time to time to try to get in your head

or

teams loaded with star talent, depth, and is flat out better overall than your own team that you keep having to overcome

im going to go out on the limb and say the latter is going to be tougher to beat, which is what lebron has consistently faced through his entire career, while jordan has mostly faced the former after his first 4-5 years in the league, after which he pretty much was never in a series that they werent favored to win and had to overcome major odds.

[FrostKing]

Lebron vs Kobe

Who you got

[140]

lebrons had plenty of people try to rough him up and give him cheap shots. and has never once responded the way they wanted him to. hes well known for either brushing it off like its nothing, absorbing the contact and finishing with the foul, or he outsmarts them with a well executed flop to get a couple extra freethrows and make them look like a fool for even trying, and that pretty much brings an end to that. lets not act like lebron has been successfully bullied at any point in his career.

holy shit :lmao:lmao:lmao

[lefty]

Meanwhile, Durbeta is being insecure on Twitter

Again :lol

[Neo.]

holy shit :lmao:lmao:lmao

you don't think flopping was a tactic used to make people pay for their overaggressiveness? if not, then why did these super macho bully true men of the 80s and 90s popularize it? what's the point of flopping? is there even an advantage to it?

[FrostKing]

Dr.J, Bird, Magic, Kobe, Lebron

The debate.

[Dirks_Finale]

He would be fine in that he adjusts just like the guys from previous eras adjust and hit threes.

But I don't see him having the longevity he has had in this era.


And did Jordan survive?
Yea he did

So I’m sure Lebron who is bigger and stronger would have been fine

[Dirks_Finale]

Ummm...we both know Lebron has never even come close to 37ppg.

And what I am saying is, if Jordan is so incredibly good at his craft of midrange and getting to the basket that he could avg 37 without a 3 point shot...had he put in that kind of dedication on the 3 ball and took 12 per game like this guys do now, that bumps his avg up to over 40 by itself, without any additional shots needed.

I'm glad you acknowledge that Lebron is a perpetual flopper. Which is hilarious to watch considering the man's size.

And you are all over the place talking about the playoffs in your last entry. I am obviously referring to the regular season. But what happens in the regular season carries over into the playoffs. Play scrubs during the regular season as they load manage, means less minutes which can also equate to less injuries. Do you recall Manu breaking his arm in the last game of the regular season in 2011? Ask these Spurs fans if it effected the Spurs in the playoffs. Doesn't happen if 'load management' is occurring on either side. And that shit just didn't exist back then. 3 games in 5 nights means you play 3 games in 5 nights.


So your thinking is that on top of his already taking around 34 shots a game (accounting 1 shot for 2 FTAs), he would be taking around another 6-7 three-point shots per game on top of that in order to make an additional 2.7 3PM each game to get 45ppg. I'm pretty confident if Lebron took 40+ shots a game he could average 45+ppg as well. So basically your point is, if Mike takes more shots, he would score more points. Yep. Astounding logic :tu



to each their own. but that wasn't even part of the argument. at all. typical jordan-stan, making comparisons of players that weren't even brought up as a comparison. if mike is so unquestionably the greatest, then why do you keep trying to make your case, to the point of bringing it up when no one even brought it up? :rolleyes



lebrons had plenty of people try to rough him up and give him cheap shots. and has never once responded the way they wanted him to. hes well known for either brushing it off like its nothing, absorbing the contact and finishing with the foul, or he outsmarts them with a well executed flop to get a couple extra freethrows and make them look like a fool for even trying, and that pretty much brings an end to that. lets not act like lebron has been successfully bullied at any point in his career.



what the heck are you even talking about? no one load manages during the playoffs, which is all that really ends up mattering anyways. lebron proved that beyond a doubt by playing just hard enough to make the playoffs then dragging that group of cretins to the finals in 2017-2018.

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol

10 burner accounts currently agreeing with him.


Meanwhile, Durbeta is being insecure on Twitter

Again :lol

[FrostKing]

Kareem and Jordan. I'll listen to Bill. That is it.

[Dirks_Finale]

I don't buy into the narrative that just because a guy isn't bombing away from 3 he is a lumbering oaf and that there's this huge difference in talent. There is a difference, but I don't think it's as profound as Lebron's fans think it is. The game is played differently do to rule changes designed to elevate scores and raise ticket and merchandising prices. And it's worked.

And do you really want to have that conversation about the competition Lebron faced all those years in the LEASTern conference? Really? Danny Granger led Pacers. :lol One star Chicago Bulls in the 2011 ECF vs Lebron's super team. :lol The mighty and fearful Demar Derozan led Raptors? :lol


hm

whats tougher to beat

a team that has less talent than yours, but has a lumbering oaf or two who will jump into you from time to time to try to get in your head

or

teams loaded with star talent, depth, and is flat out better overall than your own team that you keep having to overcome

im going to go out on the limb and say the latter is going to be tougher to beat, which is what lebron has consistently faced through his entire career, while jordan has mostly faced the former after his first 4-5 years in the league, after which he pretty much was never in a series that they werent favored to win and had to overcome major odds.

[Dirks_Finale]

I think Wilt is probably in the conversation. I have just never seen him play so I don't know.


Kareem and Jordan. I'll listen to Bill. That is it.

[FrostKing]

I think Wilt is probably in the conversation. I have just never seen him play so I don't know.
Yes. Bill vs Wilt

I think there are only a couple GOATS. Kareem and Jordan revolutionized the sport the most. Both on dominant college teams. Won titles. Revolutionary shots - sky hook vs fadeaway. These are my two GOATS.

[Neo.]

Ummm...we both know Lebron has never even come close to 37ppg.

he also never took anywhere close to 34 shots per game


And what I am saying is, if Jordan is so incredibly good at his craft of midrange and getting to the basket that he could avg 37 without a 3 point shot...had he put in that kind of dedication on the 3 ball and took 12 per game like this guys do now, that bumps his avg up to over 40 by itself, without any additional shots needed.

and what im saying is that any elite scorer that takes 35-45 shots a game is capable of putting up 35-45 ppg


I'm glad you acknowledge that Lebron is a perpetual flopper. Which is hilarious to watch considering the man's size.

funny you say that considering your heros in the bad boys pistons were the team who made flopping a commonplace thing to begin with, in particular laimbeer and rodman

im no fan of flopping at all, but its not hard to see that its certainly a useful tool that can completely change a game if used right, which lebron has done plenty of times, just the same as dozens of other players over the past 30 years. not sure why its a big issue when lebron does it, its all for the same reasons


And you are all over the place talking about the playoffs in your last entry. I am obviously referring to the regular season. But what happens in the regular season carries over into the playoffs. Play scrubs during the regular season as they load manage, means less minutes which can also equate to less injuries. Do you recall Manu breaking his arm in the last game of the regular season in 2011? Ask these Spurs fans if it effected the Spurs in the playoffs. Doesn't happen if 'load management' is occurring on either side. And that shit just didn't exist back then. 3 games in 5 nights means you play 3 games in 5 nights.

so basically you are knocking modern players for using better strategy to have a better chance of winning in the playoffs? you seem to think its smarter to play extra minutes and take more of a beating in meaningless games just to prove how manly you are. again, astounding logic :tu

[Neo.]

I don't buy into the narrative that just because a guy isn't bombing away from 3 he is a lumbering oaf and that there's this huge difference in talent.

who said that was the criteria? you clearly missed the point.

the teams that gave mike the most trouble were teams like the pistons, knicks and pacers. lets not act like any of those teams were in the same stratosphere of talent as the spurs and warriors that lebron had to face.

There is a difference, but I don't think it's as profound as Lebron's fans think it is. The game is played differently do to rule changes designed to elevate scores and raise ticket and merchandising prices. And it's worked.


And do you really want to have that conversation about the competition Lebron faced all those years in the LEASTern conference? Really? Danny Granger led Pacers. :lol One star Chicago Bulls in the 2011 ECF vs Lebron's super team. :lol The mighty and fearful Demar Derozan led Raptors? :lol

then i suppose we should talk about the almighty craig ehlo and mark price, or the godly duo of steve smith and glen rice. how about the young webber and howard duo? steve smith and laettener? van horn and kittles? rice and mason? we can do this all day. mike had plenty of weak teams he faced in his runs as well. perks of being a top seed every year, same as lebron.

[Dirks_Finale]

I don't think any elite scorer could average that much and still be THAT efficient and still play GREAT defense.

In 1988, Jordan averaged 35 ppg on a ridiculous .535 from the floor AND he won the defensive player of the year award. When has Lebron ever had a season that great that includes DPOY? It's just never happened. There's no evidence for the premise... Look at the elite scorers of today . James Harden, for example, 43% and zero defense. Defense is physically taxing and that's why these guys refuse to engage. It will effect their numbers.

Yeah, load management is weak sauce. You the fan get robbed when you buy that ticket 2 months before the game expecting to see Kawhi and instead get to see a 3rd rate scrub in his place. Try explaining load management to your disappointed children as you wolf down those 20$ nachos...Actually, I think Popovich should be forced to do all the explaining on this since he really started all this.




he also never took anywhere close to 34 shots per game



and what im saying is that any elite scorer that takes 35-45 shots a game is capable of putting up 35-45 ppg



funny you say that considering your heros in the bad boys pistons were the team who made flopping a commonplace thing to begin with, in particular laimbeer and rodman

im no fan of flopping at all, but its not hard to see that its certainly a useful tool that can completely change a game if used right, which lebron has done plenty of times, just the same as dozens of other players over the past 30 years. not sure why its a big issue when lebron does it, its all for the same reasons



so basically you are knocking modern players for using better strategy to have a better chance of winning in the playoffs? you seem to think its smarter to play extra minutes and take more of a beating in meaningless games just to prove how manly you are. again, astounding logic :tu

[Dirks_Finale]

As I've previously stated, both eras have had their fair share of weakness.

But come on, Lebron basically had a free pass to the Finals every year. I am a firm believer the Mavs beat Miami despite the refs in 2006 if we did not have the grueling 7 game series with the Spurs. That is something Lebron convienently avoided. He didn't even have to break a sweat agaisnt the Raptors and Derozan. Goes into the Finals evey year not having to deal with nagging injuries. How nice. :lol


who said that was the criteria? you clearly missed the point.

the teams that gave mike the most trouble were teams like the pistons, knicks and pacers. lets not act like any of those teams were in the same stratosphere of talent as the spurs and warriors that lebron had to face.

There is a difference, but I don't think it's as profound as Lebron's fans think it is. The game is played differently do to rule changes designed to elevate scores and raise ticket and merchandising prices. And it's worked.



then i suppose we should talk about the almighty craig ehlo and mark price, or the godly duo of steve smith and glen rice. how about the young webber and howard duo? steve smith and laettener? van horn and kittles? rice and mason? we can do this all day. mike had plenty of weak teams he faced in his runs as well. perks of being a top seed every year, same as lebron.

[Neo.]

I don't think any elite scorer could average that much and still be THAT efficient and still play GREAT defense.

he really wasnt all that efficient. eFG of 48% and a 2pt% of 49%, not really a standout figure. kobes best scoring season of 35ppg he had an eFG of 49%, shooting 48% on 2s. when harden averaged 36 he had an eFG of 54% shooting 53% on 2s. and no one would really confuse kobe or harden those years as being particularly efficient scorers. that just goes to show he wasnt "THAT" efficient. also it was one of his least stellar defensive years in terms of DRTG, DBPM, and DWS, so obviously he also didn't play "GREAT" defense while taking such a massive scoring load.


In 1988, Jordan averaged 35 ppg on a ridiculous .535 from the floor AND he won the defensive player of the year award. When has Lebron ever had a season that great that includes DPOY? It's just never happened. There's no evidence for the premise... Look at the elite scorers of today . James Harden, for example, 43% and zero defense. Defense is physically taxing and that's why these guys refuse to engage. It will effect their numbers.

okay, and your point is? beside once again bringing out completely left of field thoughts to prop up jordan when no one was even questioning anything about him whatsoever :lmao


Yeah, load management is weak sauce. You the fan get robbed when you buy that ticket 2 months before the game expecting to see Kawhi and instead get to see a 3rd rate scrub in his place. Try explaining load management to your disappointed children as you wolf down those 20$ nachos...Actually, I think Popovich should be forced to do all the explaining on this since he really started all this.

im no fan of load management either. in terms of the entertainment side of the business, yes its a terrible approach. but in terms of winning championships, its without question a brilliant strategy.

wanna know who to blame for load management and obsession over championships? mike and his fans. you idiots are the one who wanted to make championships an individual achievement and the end-all be-all indicator of greatness, instead of a team award, and unfortunately it is the only way to shut up the critics

im no fan of players falling into that narrative either, but it is what it is. its all become a race for most championships to validate ones greatness, so i cant knock lebron or kd for switching teams, or kobe for demanding to be traded away, when mike started it all with his endless whining, demands, and threats to retire. i really dont know why mike fans get so upset over this, when hes the one who started it all tbqhfwiw

[Neo.]

As I've previously stated, both eras have had their fair share of weakness.

i agree. i just dont like when mike-stans want to point out all the weaknesses of the current era, but not acknowledge the weaknesses of the 80s and 90s


But come on, Lebron basically had a free pass to the Finals every year.

completely untrue. boston was still very good his first couple years in miami, and indy with PG, Hill, Granger and Hibbert was a very solid team. atlanta had some nice balanced squads with Horford, Teague, Korver and Milsap and won 60 games, and the bulls had a team that won over 60 games starring a league MVP. dismiss them all you want, but toronto probably makes the finals 2-3 times if lebron isnt in their way, as they too had a very solid, well built team (even if DeRozen is a choker, he still was a very good player). the cavs were simply a horrible matchup for them, because all of their strengths were all of torontos weaknesses.

it wasnt near the cakewalk that everyone makes it out to be. besides he still had to repeatedly play against a pair of dynasties in the finals in the spurs and warriors, both teams being better than any team mike ever faced in the playoffs aside from maybe the celtics his first few seasons.


I am a firm believer the Mavs beat Miami despite the refs in 2006 if we did not have the grueling 7 game series with the Spurs.

as a mavs fan i wholeheartedly disagree that the spurs series wore them out. they went into that series as healthy as can be. they didnt lose because they were tired or hurt. they lost because they were mentally weaker than miami.


That is something Lebron convienently avoided. He didn't even have to break a sweat agaisnt the Raptors and Derozan. Goes into the Finals evey year not having to deal with nagging injuries. How nice. :lol

also, how do you know he didnt deal with nagging injuries? and if he didnt, then how do you know its solely because of his level of competition he faced?

did mike have to battle through nagging injuries every single year he went to the finals?

[lefty]

:lol

10 burner accounts currently agreeing with him.

:lol damn

[Dirks_Finale]

Jordan was the best defender in the league that year and carried the scoring load while averaging a ridiculous 35 ppg. He won that award in the era in which big men always typically took home the trophy. Nice way to spin the fact that Lebron never accomplished that feat. Good defender, and yes taller, but not as lockdown as Jordan was.

And in regards to titles being the end-all-be-all, I think it's like that in any sport. Hardware rules. You don't view Peyton Manning the same way you view Tom Brady. Marino was better than both of them, imo, but will never be viewed as such without rings.


he really wasnt all that efficient. eFG of 48% and a 2pt% of 49%, not really a standout figure. kobes best scoring season of 35ppg he had an eFG of 49%, shooting 48% on 2s. when harden averaged 36 he had an eFG of 54% shooting 53% on 2s. and no one would really confuse kobe or harden those years as being particularly efficient scorers. that just goes to show he wasnt "THAT" efficient. also it was one of his least stellar defensive years in terms of DRTG, DBPM, and DWS, so obviously he also didn't play "GREAT" defense while taking such a massive scoring load.



okay, and your point is? beside once again bringing out completely left of field thoughts to prop up jordan when no one was even questioning anything about him whatsoever :lmao



im no fan of load management either. in terms of the entertainment side of the business, yes its a terrible approach. but in terms of winning championships, its without question a brilliant strategy.

wanna know who to blame for load management and obsession over championships? mike and his fans. you idiots are the one who wanted to make championships an individual achievement and the end-all be-all indicator of greatness, instead of a team award, and unfortunately it is the only way to shut up the critics

im no fan of players falling into that narrative either, but it is what it is. its all become a race for most championships to validate ones greatness, so i cant knock lebron or kd for switching teams, or kobe for demanding to be traded away, when mike started it all with his endless whining, demands, and threats to retire. i really dont know why mike fans get so upset over this, when hes the one who started it all tbqhfwiw

[Dirks_Finale]

Thanks for reminding me of the Hawks. Atlanta had zero stars and managed to win 60 games. :lol That tells you just how weak the eastern conference was. Lebron beat Boston, finally, when they were running on fumes. So I'll give him some credit there. They were still fairly good at that point.

And I keep reading on here how much Jordan's finals opponents supposedly sucked. But it's really revisionist history because I can clearly recall all the so called experts declaring that the Bulls had no chance vs Magic and the Lakers who more experienced, etc. Then they lose GM1 at home and they really piled on about how great the Lakers were. :rolleyes

I think Seattle in 96 is highly underrated. They just faced a extraordinary team in the finals. You could say the same about the Suns in 93. Lebron likely loses to both those teams. If I were a betting person, I would not bet on Lebron to beat either of them, given his Final's record. We know if it were close and came down to free throws, Lebron is Lonzo Ball from the line in crunch time.

I don't know for certain who had what injuries. But when you are playing in a G-league conference and sweeping through your opponents, not being tested it certainly helps your cause.


i agree. i just dont like when mike-stans want to point out all the weaknesses of the current era, but not acknowledge the weaknesses of the 80s and 90s



completely untrue. boston was still very good his first couple years in miami, and indy with PG, Hill, Granger and Hibbert was a very solid team. atlanta had some nice balanced squads with Horford, Teague, Korver and Milsap and won 60 games, and the bulls had a team that won over 60 games starring a league MVP. dismiss them all you want, but toronto probably makes the finals 2-3 times if lebron isnt in their way, as they too had a very solid, well built team (even if DeRozen is a choker, he still was a very good player). the cavs were simply a horrible matchup for them, because all of their strengths were all of torontos weaknesses.

it wasnt near the cakewalk that everyone makes it out to be. besides he still had to repeatedly play against a pair of dynasties in the finals in the spurs and warriors, both teams being better than any team mike ever faced in the playoffs aside from maybe the celtics his first few seasons.



as a mavs fan i wholeheartedly disagree that the spurs series wore them out. they went into that series as healthy as can be. they didnt lose because they were tired or hurt. they lost because they were mentally weaker than miami.



also, how do you know he didnt deal with nagging injuries? and if he didnt, then how do you know its solely because of his level of competition he faced?

did mike have to battle through nagging injuries every single year he went to the finals?

[Dirks_Finale]

https://247sports.com/Article/Lakers-LeBron-James-Stat-suggests-LeBron-is-NBAs-worst-late-game-free-throw-shooter-123699259/

[FrostKing]

As I've previously stated, both eras have had their fair share of weakness.

But come on, Lebron basically had a free pass to the Finals every year. I am a firm believer the Mavs beat Miami despite the refs in 2006 if we did not have the grueling 7 game series with the Spurs. That is something Lebron convienently avoided. He didn't even have to break a sweat agaisnt the Raptors and Derozan. Goes into the Finals evey year not having to deal with nagging injuries. How nice. :lol
I will go even as far as to say Lebron played as good/better teams in the Finals. On the flip side the East was King in the 90s.

Jordan's averages fell against the Pistons but he did not have a Mavericks or Orlando moment. Jordan was a standard.

[Dirks_Finale]

2007 is a Finals loss I don't even really count against him because he had no business being there in the 1st place. Detroit was the better team. Lebron looked Jordan-esque in that series. So I started expecting that of him.

2011 Mavs are underrated. But still one star on that team vs a superteam. Miami the heavy favorites. And Lebron got outscored in that 6 game series by a role player in Jet Terry. Something that wouldn't happen to Jordan even at age 50.

2012 Baby Thunder, not great. Not ready.

2013 and 2014 Spurs were tough. Nice mixture of vets and youth. But Lebron had formed a superteam. And he almost lost both series.

2015 Warriors. Not great yet but Lebron had a banged up roster to work with. Understandable loss.

2016 Warriors. 73 wins don't mean a thing without the ring lol. Lebron's best accomplishment. Without it, even his most hardcore fans can't put him in the GOAT conversation.

2017 and 2018 Warriors. Probably better than any Bull's Finals opponents. But if he is a 'king' they should have also won one of those series. I think they were healthier in 2017.

3-6 in the Finals. If he were 5-4 against that competition, I would be more likely to mention him as a close 2nd to Jordan. As it stands now, I'll take Bird, Kobe and Kareem over him. But no shame being in that great class.



I will go even as far as to say Lebron played as good/better teams in the Finals. On the flip side the East was King in the 90s.

Jordan's averages fell against the Pistons but he did not have a Mavericks or Orlando moment. Jordan was a standard.

[FrostKing]

Spur fan is impressed

[Spurtacular]

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2020/04/27/report-premier-league-plans-project-restart-for-june-return/

Premier League targeting a June return.

[FrostKing]

Lewandowski

[lefty]

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2020/04/27/report-premier-league-plans-project-restart-for-june-return/

Premier League targeting a June return.

Y tho

It’s still not safe and the title is pretty much wrapped up for Liverpool

[lefty]

Lewandowski
Remember his 5 goals in like less than 10 minutes?
That was amazing

[Neo.]

Jordan was the best defender in the league that year and carried the scoring load while averaging a ridiculous 35 ppg. He won that award in the era in which big men always typically took home the trophy. Nice way to spin the fact that Lebron never accomplished that feat. Good defender, and yes taller, but not as lockdown as Jordan was.

:lmao i didnt spin anything, you once again keep bringing up any chance to hop on jordans nuts and nitpick at lebron, when that wasnt even the original part of our discussion yet you brought both of these things up and keep bringing it up in new ways.

half of the other crap you posted is retarded and subjective as usual, and i dont care to respond to it all because its just going to be the same stuff over and over. i never once said that lebron > mike. i dont believe lebron > mike. you keep coming at me as if i did, but i didnt.

even when you kept trying to make that the argument, my only issue has been the double standards most mike fans bring up.

if mike fans want to bring up "oh lebron had weak competition", well the truth is that mike had to deal with some weak competition at times as well. perks of getting high seeds.

"oh lebron was in the weaker conference". well, he still had to face the best opponent in the league every year and had to attempt to beat them, and usually in the finals his team was the underdog and he had to battle with two different dynasties, one of which people can make a good argument is the best team in NBA history (KD warriors). lebron usually had an uphill battle by time he got to the finals, while mikes team was usually the overwhelming favorite in his entire runs.

"oh mike would average 45 in todays era" woulda coulda shoulda. perhaps lebron could have averaged 45 in the 80s where he would have outweighed everyone by 50lbs instead of 30 lbs. we can do this all day. mike did the best he could in his time, and lebron is doing the best he can in his time. not only that, but they are completely different styles of players. lebron runs an offense, and helps make his teammates better. jordan looked mainly to score and when he would draw doubles, eventually learned to create easy buckets for others doing so. why does it always have to be a comparison?

"oh mike would never team up with other guys, he won THE RIGHT WAY!!!!1!1" well no instead he just begged for his team to sign or trade for more talent and threatened to retire if they didnt. he was no angel himself. plus he had a front office that knew how to operate. krause was a douche, but definitely did a good job of getting mike good supporting talent.


i dont care any more for this argument, because its not going anywhere anyways. mike is the greatest, no doubt about it. but lebron is exceptionally great too. unfortunately lebron is on the receiving end of many double standards.

[Dirks_Finale]

. mike is the greatest, no doubt about it. but lebron is exceptionally great too..

I've placed Lebron in the pantheon of great players like Kobe, Bird and Kareem. Not sure how that's really much different than what you have stated above.

[Neo.]

I've placed Lebron in the pantheon of great players like Kobe, Bird and Kareem. Not sure how that's really much different than what you have stated above.

i never said anything about lebrons greatness, but you are the one who continues to bring him up to compare him with mike, which has completely derailed the original discussion that magic was simply ahead of his time. typical of jordanstans tho tbh

[Spurtacular]

Y tho

It’s still not safe and the title is pretty much wrapped up for Liverpool

It's safe. Deprogram yourself, bro.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WLXbKNZyNpHo/

[Spurtacular]

perhaps lebron could have averaged 45 in the 80s where he would have outweighed everyone by 50lbs instead of 30 lbs.

Pre-evolution of phantom calls and travels still being called? No.

[Neo.]

Pre-evolution of phantom calls and travels still being called? No.

wouldnt need it when he has the luxury of being guarded by the likes of craig ehlo, danny ainge and john stockton every night

[apalisoc_9]

Remember his 5 goals in like less than 10 minutes?
That was amazing

coon

[Spurtacular]

wouldnt need it when he has the luxury of being guarded by the likes of craig ehlo, danny ainge and john stockton every night

The problem is he isn't a shooter. Most of his paints come in the paint where the bigs were strong help defender and they were actually bigs.
They didn't have these pussy four guard lineups.

[Spurtacular]

coon

Racist.

[Neo.]

The problem is he isn't a shooter.

interesting. because stats show hes a pretty capable shooter actually.


Most of his paints come in the paint where the bigs were strong help defender and they were actually bigs.

same for mike, especially early in his career, and he did just fine despite being 195lbs. i wonder how a guy with his same athleticism but weighing 260 would do.


They didn't have these pussy four guard lineups.

who all plays 4 guard lineups?

[lefty]

coon

Wut

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/goldlakerss/status/1259951800959942657?s=19

:lol

[LkrFan]

Hey you farmers, was Danny Green always funny?
https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1260045118125625345?s=19

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[FrostKing]

Remember his 5 goals in like less than 10 minutes?
That was amazing
Has atleast 3 more peak seasons left with his health. Just needs that UCL trophy.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1260645992669409280?s=19

:toast

[Dirks_Finale]

Duncan's shot before that goes down as the greatest shot to almost win a playoff game :lol


https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1260645992669409280?s=19

:toast

[lefty]

0.4 left and Pop thinks it'S a good idea to double team Kobe
I know Kobe was dangerous in those situations but he wouldn't have been able to hit that shot fro where e was with 0.4 left unless he was wide open like Fisher

[LkrFan]

Duncan's shot before that goes down as the greatest shot to almost win a playoff game :lol

Shaq said both shots were lucky :lol

[LkrFan]

0.4 left and Pop thinks it'S a good idea to double team Kobe
I know Kobe was dangerous in those situations but he wouldn't have been able to hit that shot fro where e was with 0.4 left unless he was wide open like Fisher

Correct. He hit that shot in Manu'res grill :lol

[lefty]

Correct. He hit that shot in Manu'res grill :lol
Well Manu challenged the shot but he was late because of the double teaming
Fucking Poopovich

[LkrFan]

Well Manu challenged the shot but he was late because of the double teaming
Fucking Poopovich

No arguments here other than I was banned upstairs (for 24 hours) for bumping a 16 year old thread about 0.4 a few weeks ago. No warning, no nothing :cry

[lefty]

No arguments here other than I was banned upstairs (for 24 hours) for bumping a 16 year old thread about 0.4 a few weeks ago. No warning, no nothing :cry
Upstairs is very sensitive

:cry Kawhi is a POS, our front office can do no wrong
:cry Pop is perfect

[LkrFan]

Upstairs is very sensitive

:cry Kawhi is a POS, our front office can do no wrong
:cry Pop is perfect

:lol

[LkrFan]

No more foodstamps for the Seattle Spurs?
https://twitter.com/TheArmoTrader/status/1260949662799785985?s=19

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1260972452018094081?s=19


The nine teams that lost money even with revenue sharing were the Atlanta Hawks, Brooklyn Nets, Cleveland Cavaliers, Detroit Pistons, Memphis Grizzlies, Milwaukee Bucks, Orlando Magic, Seattle Super Spurs and Washington Wizards.

:wow

[Dirks_Finale]

Honestly think Duncan's shot had a higher degree of difficulty. Shaq was all over him.


Shaq said both shots were lucky :lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/opinionsondanba/status/1260994307722375168?s=19

:lol

[lefty]

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1262417700330053634?s=19

Who's gonna sign with the lottery bound Spurs? :lol

[LkrFan]

A certain team isn't listed
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1262230896138207232?s=19

:lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Does Bryn Forbes have any brothers on the market? :lol


https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1262417700330053634?s=19

Who's gonna sign with the lottery bound Spurs? :lol

[LkrFan]

Does Bryn Forbes have any brothers on the market? :lol

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1263565843390218244?s=19

Not mentioned in list of playoff teams: Spurs :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1263565843390218244?s=19

Not mentioned in list of playoff teams: Spurs :lol

The precious streak goes bye-bye.

[FrostKing]

*

[Dirks_Finale]

*

Not if Lebron wins it. Media wil overlook it.

[FrostKing]

Not if Lebron wins it. Media wil overlook it.
No question Lebron has the best facility. But he hasn't failed in the past based on physical ability.

Leonard & Giannis. If Lebron can tower that then I tip my hat.

[lefty]

*So pretty much like any title The Bulls won

[FrostKing]

So pretty much like any title The Bulls won
How do we get you back.

Divorce?

[lefty]

How do we get you back.

Divorce?
Lol

[LkrFan]

*

70 > 50 :D

[DMC]

No arguments here other than I was banned upstairs (for 24 hours) for bumping a 16 year old thread about 0.4 a few weeks ago. No warning, no nothing :cry

They built the wall

[DMC]

The precious streak goes bye-bye.
Unlikely, but even if so, there's an * to the season so not really.

[Neo.]

Not if Lebron wins it. Media wil overlook it.

:lmao at this crybaby crap

a grand total of... 0 teams that won championships have been given an asterisk, and virtually no respectable media member (and certainly not a majority) bothers making the asterisk argument for any team. it was basically shaq and phil trolling san antonio (maybe an individual here and there would take their troll job and run with it) and that was about it. so why is it a matter of media only overlooking it because its lebron winning, when media has overlooked it for literally every team ever?

[LkrFan]

They built the wall

:lol

Hora: 4:33pm EST. Aproximadamente 6,989 Trump COVID-19 muertes en México. En los Estados Unidos, hay 96,662 muertes de Trump COVID-19. ¡Quizás México construya el Muro! :lol

Andrés Manuel López Obrador >>>> David Dennison tbh :toast

[Dirks_Finale]

ESPN worships Lebron. Does not matter how many Phil Jackson type figures calls it an * season, it will get no play on their network. They wont even cover what was said, and instead kiss Lebron's rear end by replaying the Lakers final's 'games' this year, 24 hours a day.

And the NBA will probably place cardboard cutout "fans" in the stands to make it look like an actual event :lol


:lmao at this crybaby crap

a grand total of... 0 teams that won championships have been given an asterisk, and virtually no respectable media member (and certainly not a majority) bothers making the asterisk argument for any team. it was basically shaq and phil trolling san antonio (maybe an individual here and there would take their troll job and run with it) and that was about it. so why is it a matter of media only overlooking it because its lebron winning, when media has overlooked it for literally every team ever?

[Seventyniner]

There's no question that any "champion" in 2019-2020 will carry a gargantuan asterisk next to it compared to the lockout seasons.

[Neo.]

ESPN w:cryorships Lebron. Does not matter how many Phil Jacks:cryon type figures calls it an * season, it will get no play on their network. They wont even cover what w:cryas said, and instead kiss Lebro:cryn's rear end by replaying the Lakers final's 'games' this year, 24 hours a day.

And the NBA:cry will probably place cardboard cutout "fans" in the stands to make:cry it look like an actual event :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[phxspurfan]

JJ Redick quoted on the gram saying top 6 teams locked and seeds 7-12 will battle for final 2 seeds

[Robz4000]

JJ Redick quoted on the gram saying top 6 teams locked and seeds 7-12 will battle for final 2 seeds

Fuck, if records are reset for that the Spurs actually have a shot to make the playoffs. Gonna destroy their draft position.

[Dirks_Finale]

That's some BS. Nobody wants to see the Twolves or Spurs in the playoffs :lol


JJ Redick quoted on the gram saying top 6 teams locked and seeds 7-12 will battle for final 2 seeds

[lefty]

That's some BS. Nobody wants to see the Twolves or Spurs in the playoffs :lol
:lol

[FrostKing]

Pelicans would be a wrecking ball in the Playoffs. Would watch.

[RD2191]

JJ Redick quoted on the gram saying top 6 teams locked and seeds 7-12 will battle for final 2 seeds

Fuck JJ Redick