**OFFICIAL 2020 Offseason/Draft Thread**

[spurraider21]

the first description of herbert people give to compliment him is his height and arm strength. sure signs of a bust.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Zona can take Simmons, their Oline is bad but they also lost Deone Bucannon which was a similar type as Simmons/Derwin James

[spurraider21]

The Simmons at #4 picks in the media were retarded to begin with, made by jokers or ex-defense NFL players with a defensive bias.

Most experienced experts had an OT. Wirfs and Thomas were the guys in real consideration. Becton wasn't for sure.
how many of them had simmons dropping past 7?

7/7

called it

[monosylab1k]

:lmao monosylab1k

1253490438616625157

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[spurraider21]

Zona can take Simmons, their Oline is bad but they also lost Deone Bucannon which was a similar type as Simmons/Derwin James
its possible... im sure kingsbury would love that type of player too. and they were historically bad against TE's. but i imagine their priority is to protect Kyler

[Millennial_Messiah]

no way Simmons is falling to 17 right? It happened 2 years ago when the raiders took fucking Kolton Miller :lol

[spurraider21]

i have Becton to Cardinals... we shall see

[spurraider21]

Bah, cardinals took Simmons. there goes that pipe dream.

as long as we get Jeudy/Lamb at 12 i'm satisfied

[Millennial_Messiah]

Panthers still .....still, have the worst roster in the NFL, even after this pick.

[Holden_Caulfield]

wtf arizona you aholes

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bah, cardinals took Simmons. there goes that pipe dream.

as long as we get Jeudy/Lamb at 12 i'm satisfied

Yep. Deone Bucannon on steroids. He's fucking elite and he pairs with Jordan Hicks which is already one of the best/most athletic smaller MLBs in the league.

NFC West is gonna be nastaaaaaaaaayyyyy next year... Rams honestly might be last place.

[monosylab1k]

the first description of herbert people give to compliment him is his height and arm strength. sure signs of a bust.

Also praising him for making plays with his legs in a game when the passing game fails. As if he has no responsibility for the passing game failing :lol

From what little I’ve seen of him, he looks like Blaine Gabbert 2.0

[FrostKing]

NFC West - Simmons

AFC West - Herbert

[Millennial_Messiah]

As long as the Cowboys get one of CJ Henderson, Kinlaw, or McKinney I'll be satisfied.

I'll be fucking pissed if we waste the pick on a 1st round WR or that big-time bust K'Lavon Chaisson

[phxspurfan]

you guys are taking some fatfuck offensive lineman and you're going to like it!

love how they showed a montage of Clowney blowing by my 9ers' own top pick Fat Fuck O-lineman McGlinchey about 20 mins ago :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

post-COVID19 Sean Payton looks like he just went thru 10 years of chemo :lol

[phxspurfan]

Yep. Deone Bucannon on steroids. He's fucking elite and he pairs with Jordan Hicks which is already one of the best/most athletic smaller MLBs in the league.

NFC West is gonna be nastaaaaaaaaayyyyy next year... Rams honestly might be last place.

I don't live in AZ anymore but the Cards are always fun to watch...when they arent tanking

[spurraider21]

CJ Henderson to Jags. had them going tackle but instead they replace Ramsey

barring a trade, one of jeudy/lamb is guaranteed to be available at 12

[Millennial_Messiah]

FUCK FUCK FUCK

that was someone I wanted for the Cowboys... FUCK

[spurraider21]

FUCK FUCK FUCK

that was someone I wanted for the Cowboys... FUCK
he was never getting past atlanta

[Millennial_Messiah]

CJ Henderson to Jags. had them going tackle but instead they replace Ramsey

barring a trade, one of jeudy/lamb is guaranteed to be available at 12

I'm guessing they both will. People are starting to "get" that, unless you get a truly generational blue chip WR in the top few picks, the success rate for "red chip" later 1st round WRs has been about the same as (or worse than) the success for 2nd and 3rd round WRs like Michael Gallup, Smith-Schuster, Cooper Kupp, etc.

[spurraider21]

i'd be absolutely floored if browns do anything but grab a tackle

[Millennial_Messiah]

he was never getting past atlanta

Blue chip corners are both off the board. I don't think there is another first round worthy corner this year.

[Holden_Caulfield]

i like the pick. a little bit of a reach but he wasnt gonna be there at 20

[spurraider21]

:lol nice, i had Wills to Cleveland.

Called it.

8/10

[spurraider21]

Blue chip corners are both off the board. I don't think there is another first round worthy corner this year.
there are plenty. just not top 10 guys. top of the draft was deep at OT. bottom of the first round is loaded with CBs. run on WRs will start soon, and last all the way through the 2nd

[FrostKing]

49ers gonna get stuck drafting a WR

[Millennial_Messiah]

Wills is now the ugliest MF'er in the NFL tbh

[spurraider21]

kinda hope jets do something moronic like take Ruggs just to ensure we dont :lol

[monosylab1k]

We’ll see if these are real Jets fans or paid actors, real Jets fans will boo this pick regardless of who it is.

[Millennial_Messiah]

there are plenty. just not top 10 guys. top of the draft was deep at OT. bottom of the first round is loaded with CBs. run on WRs will start soon, and last all the way through the 2nd

yeah but the Cowboys pick at 17, and no way I'm reaching for a bottom first round / top second round grade corner at that spot

Worse case scenario should be having to settle for McKinney.

[spurraider21]

i like the pick. a little bit of a reach but he wasnt gonna be there at 20
its a solid pick. maybe a mild reach but there's a dropoff at the position after him, and he was never reaching 20. i really thought they would prioritize OT though. never bought they'd go WR

[spurraider21]

yeah but the Cowboys pick at 17, and no way I'm reaching for a bottom first round / top second round grade corner at that spot

Worse case scenario should be having to settle for McKinney.
they're gonna take Chaisson if he's there. if not probably the next CB on their board to like Fulton to replace Byron Jones

[Millennial_Messiah]

kinda hope jets do something moronic like take Ruggs just to ensure we dont :lol

Darnold has one of the weakest arms among starting NFL WRs, so getting the biggest "deep threat" prospect wouldn't make sense imo

[monosylab1k]

lol imagine being a Jets/Knicks/Mets fan. Worst sports existence possible :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

they're gonna take Chaisson if he's there. if not probably the next CB on their board to like Fulton to replace Byron Jones

Chaisson is a bust just like rashan gary from last year. Fulton would be a massive reach at 17. Just like the year people had Awuzie going late 1st but he lasted all the way to our late 2nd round pick.

[spurraider21]

Chaisson is a bust just like rashan gary from last year. Fulton would be a massive reach at 17. Just like the year people had Awuzie going late 1st but he lasted all the way to our late 2nd round pick.
im telling you what's going to happen, not what you want to happen

[Holden_Caulfield]

its a solid pick. maybe a mild reach but there's a dropoff at the position after him, and he was never reaching 20. i really thought they would prioritize OT though. never bought they'd go WR
theyre definitely going WR at 20 now unless one of the top 4 OT falls. simmons was never getting to the raiders at 12 btw lol

[spurraider21]

Jets took Becton.

All receivers on the board for the Raiders.

I have Jeudy 1a and Lamb 1b. would be thrilled with either. just no ruggs. other than that, trade down.

[Millennial_Messiah]

they're gonna take Chaisson if he's there. if not probably the next CB on their board to like Fulton to replace Byron Jones

Mckinney is a position of extreme need and he's a better overall player than Chaisson. they don't need another slow DE on the right side opposite Lawrence. Plus likely Aldon Smith and Randy Gregory are likely getting re-instated

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol becktons dad is a tank

[Millennial_Messiah]

im telling you what's going to happen, not what you want to happen

I'm really loving Chaisson to the Falcons right now. They did lose Vic Beasley, after all.

[phxspurfan]

Damn...this Beckton dude be like Ho-dor...Ho-dor...

[chunticakes]

im telling you what's going to happen, not what you want to happen

:lol

This. If Chaisson gets past Atlanta that's the pick. Otherwise it'll be Terrell. Either way we're gonna reach and you're going like it Andy.

[Millennial_Messiah]

spurraider21 Pick is in

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol

This. If Chaisson gets past Atlanta that's the pick. Otherwise it'll be Terrell. Either way we're gonna reach and you're going like it Andy.

Terrell is 2nd round talent

[spurraider21]

fuck me

[Millennial_Messiah]

"to replace Antonio Brown"... oh Mel, oh boy.... :lmao

[chunticakes]

OMG. I'm sorry spurraider21

[phxspurfan]

Welp, 9ers back to the drawing board...

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol spurraider

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
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[monosylab1k]

:lmao spurraider21 I’m so sorry

[Holden_Caulfield]

al davis lives

[Holden_Caulfield]

oh shit. lamb/jeudy might get to 20 lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

fuck me

will do... in 4.27 seconds

[KobesAchilles]

Thanks for the gift Raiders :toast

[phxspurfan]

Henry Jett



Henry Ginn, Jr.

[Millennial_Messiah]

oh shit. lamb/jeudy might get to 20 lol

49ers will pick one. They need to replace Sanders at slot

[FrostKing]

Bathrobes and makeup

Las Vegas is gonna eat up this idiot

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ruggs' girlfriend is THICCCCCCCCCC tbh <3

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol this dude literally wearing a robe

[KobesAchilles]

Also :lol at the Chargers picking Blake Bortles .20 at the 6th pick. And New England gonna win the division again easily. Darnold seeing ghosts and not even able to complete a forward pass against Belicheat. Josh Allen :lol and now Tua?? Belicheat just raking in those AFC East banners for the next decade.

[phxspurfan]

Wow, weird trade

[spurraider21]

there isn't any way to spin this shit tbh :lol

we still dont have a go-to receiver. unreal. gruden better have all kinds of schemes drawn up for Ruggs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

WTF? I never understood the idea of moving up one pick tbh. Basically you're just getting someone that the previous team wouldn't have gotten anyway unless you gave up mega capital, or in which case the other team wouldn't have been interested in the first place.

[phxspurfan]

Bruce Arians, AZ misses u

[Millennial_Messiah]

lol this dude literally wearing a robe

his thicccc girlfriend has the body type of a woman who is amazing at fucking tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

there isn't any way to spin this shit tbh :lol

we still dont have a go-to receiver. unreal. gruden better have all kinds of schemes drawn up for Ruggs.

at least you still have Tyrell williams and shit like that :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

there isn't any way to spin this shit tbh :lol

we still dont have a go-to receiver. unreal. gruden better have all kinds of schemes drawn up for Ruggs.
dont you ever disrespect Hunter Renfrow ever again. i have him in my dynasty league :lol

[monosylab1k]

WE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bucs honestly need two tackles, not one. Dotson is also gone.

[KobesAchilles]

Wouldn’t have minded picking that Iowa kid tbh. But I like Jeudy

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers have to take Jeudy, right?

[FrostKing]

Lynch

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/v1/article/[email protected]

[Millennial_Messiah]

please Atlanta take K'Bust Chaisson

[Silver&Black]

WE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED

:lol Rest of the NFL

[phxspurfan]

Yeah its gotta be Jeudy

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lynch

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/v1/article/[email protected]
only for Jimmy Wop to bungle the game with a shitty move like queen takes bishop, assuming black is to move.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Microsoft Teams is gay shit.

[spurraider21]

:lol at this point if one of jeudy/lamb is still available at 19 i'd double dip just so we can at least come out of this with a WR1

[spurraider21]

dont you ever disrespect Hunter Renfrow ever again. i have him in my dynasty league :lol
3rd and Refrow dude!

but we needed a #1

[spurraider21]

Niners took Javon Kinlaw. CALLED IT.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Direct replacement for DeForest Buckner trade. Makes perfect sense, IMO. :toast

[blizz]

So do they cowboys go after a WR??

[Holden_Caulfield]

oh shit. jeudy/lamb slide to 20 plsssssssssss

[Millennial_Messiah]

Niners took Javon Kinlaw. CALLED IT.

they replaced the stud they traded to Indiana, very smart imo

[phxspurfan]

Can’t say I’m super surprised... Lynch going with defense first again

WR pick last year didn’t turn out half bad

[FrostKing]

:lol
:lol
:lol


Fuck your primadonna WRs. We building a Dynasty

[KobesAchilles]

I don’t hate the pick but man we need a wide out. It makes sense though if we trade our 31st pick for a second and a third rounder because we still need a WR but have no picks to get one.

[FrostKing]

I don’t hate the pick but man we need a wide out. It makes sense though if we trade our 31st pick for a second and a third rounder because we still need a WR but have no picks to get one.
Deep WR draft with nearly all of them still on the board

We lost the SB because we didn't stop the run not because we needed a superior WR

[Millennial_Messiah]

well Atlanta won't take a WR so...

[Millennial_Messiah]

CMON FAILCONS TAKE CHAISSON NOW

[Millennial_Messiah]

I halfway would have accepted the Cowboys getting Jeudy since he's a pure slot guy... definitely don't want Lamb or Ruggs, especially don't want K'Bust Chaisson

[spurraider21]

they replaced the stud they traded to Indiana, very smart imo
actually i think i had lamb to SF. but yeah this is a strong pick

[spurraider21]

falcons took terrell. i guess they really wanted henderson.

cowboys up next. i have them taking chaisson

[Millennial_Messiah]

WHAAAAAAAAAT???

That's a helluva reach.

[Millennial_Messiah]

take McKinney imo... Or trade down. still could probably get mckinney a little later.

[FrostKing]

AJ Terrell

New nominee for ugliest player

[Millennial_Messiah]

trade down for an extra 2nd. Please.

[Millennial_Messiah]

AJ Terrell

New nominee for ugliest player

Not even close compared to the ogre the Browns selected earlier.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Trade the fuck down

Or pick Jordan Love tbh

[FrostKing]

Not even close compared to the ogre the Browns selected earlier.
I was trying to find your post earlier and quote it!

Ugly half breeds

[Millennial_Messiah]

oh please let it be McKinney....

[spurraider21]

Lamb to Cowboys

[chunticakes]

Lamb to Cowboys

I'm down with either Chaisson or Lamb.

[Millennial_Messiah]

OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spurraider21]

:lmao should have just franchised cooper if they were going to draft a receiver.

but this will be a filthy combo

[Millennial_Messiah]

4.5 flat 40.... Dez Bryant 2.0. FUCK ME UP THE ASS WITH NO LUBE

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao should have just franchised cooper if they were going to draft a receiver.

but this will be a filthy combo

yeah, but with ryan leaf 2 throwing the ball it won't matter

fuck me

[Millennial_Messiah]

gallup is a star too... over 1100 yards in only 13 games played (and 12 games finished).

Super redundant

[monosylab1k]

No excuses for Dak now

[chunticakes]

I like that we cucked the Eagles, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm a little satisfied that they didn't reach for a 2nd round grade CB or a fucking center or something. Or another shitty edge rusher named Ch-----n, tbh.

[Holden_Caulfield]

No excuses for Dak now
tHe oLiNe iSnt as GoOd aS it UsED to bE

[Millennial_Messiah]

No excuses for Dak now

he'll still blow out the redskins by 49 points and then shrivel up and take sacks when it matters most, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

tHe oLiNe iSnt as GoOd aS it UsED to bE

Tyron Smith, Zack Martin and La'el Collins are still 3 superstars. No fucking excuse. That's still better than about 29 other teams have it. Also, Joe Looney is back and he was just fine in the 2018 season starting at center. OLine isn't a problem.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Trade back up into the late 1st and get McKinney tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

the Lamb pick was definitely NOT a reach. give Jerruh props for that.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Roger Goodell tipped the pick

could have been a WR though, tbh, or a TE, but OT was most likely after he said that

[spurraider21]

good grief

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[phxspurfan]

gallup is a star too... over 1100 yards in only 13 games played (and 12 games finished).

Super redundant


He’s your deep threat tbh. Needed a Randall Cobb replacement. Not sure where this leaves Cooper

[KobesAchilles]

Smart business move by Jeremiah tbh. Don’t want to pay Dak $40 million a year. Franchise him and watch him fail in all the big games again and then move one from him on the cheap. Hell I would respect Dallas more if they sign Winceton as the back up qb. Really put it on Dak and take control of the negotiations

[Millennial_Messiah]

spurraider21 :lmao

Another huge reach.....

[Millennial_Messiah]

He’s your deep threat tbh. Needed a Randall Cobb replacement. Not sure where this leaves Cooper

........ wide open?

It leaves him wide open.

Question is, will Dak see it or will he scramble around and take the sack instead?

[spurraider21]

corner was the right move.

but was arnette really the guy?

not a fan of day 1 this year. our day 1 wasnt very good last year either.

[Holden_Caulfield]

wtf raiders had some surprises the last two drafts :lmao

[monosylab1k]

corner was the right move.

but was arnette really the guy?

not a fan of day 1 this year. our day 1 wasnt very good last year either.

Dumped Mack and Cooper for this :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Cowboys did add the arguably best receiver in the draft to the #1 offense in football in 2019.

Problem is, it doesn't matter if you can't convert on 3rd downs in the red zone, or score in the clutch, or get off the field on the other side of the ball.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I bet the Eagles get McKinney. He'd be a perfect replacement for the departed Jenkins tbh.

[Holden_Caulfield]

wrong LSU lb :lol

hopefully this means Yan is gone

[spurraider21]

i called Reagor to the Eagles :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Reagor?? That's an overdraft big time

[FrostKing]

Eagles with the first surprise

All these WRs, dime a dozen tbh

[spurraider21]

Dumped Mack and Cooper for this :lol
to be fair also save about 40 mil per year combined to be spent elsehwere, but yeah... they traded mack for Josh Jacobs, Damon Arnette, and cap space

[spurraider21]

Reagor?? That's an overdraft big time
not at all. i like him more than ruggs. he's legit. and their D-Jax for the next generation

[spurraider21]

patriots trading out of the first with the chargers

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ceedee Lamb is definitely getting that jersey number #88.

[Millennial_Messiah]

not at all. i like him more than ruggs. he's legit. and their D-Jax for the next generation

D-Jax runs a 4.3, reagor runs a roughly 4.5

meanwhile, Lamb is basically dez bryant redux

[spurraider21]

jefferson has a very high floor. hard to see him being a bust. runs good routes, has good hands, wins contested balls, and ran in the 4.4 range. worst case he's a good big slot corner. we'll see if he can win on the outside too. cousins likes going deep

[Millennial_Messiah]

at least the cowboys got a blue chip guy at #17. not very often that happens, the chargers got a blue chipper on defense at #17 in 2018. But generally that's red chip territory and the Cowboys got the only blue chip left on the board.

[monosylab1k]

patriots trading out of the first with the chargers

Easiest Called It in the history of Call Its

[Millennial_Messiah]

jefferson has a very high floor. hard to see him being a bust. runs good routes, has good hands, wins contested balls, and ran in the 4.4 range. worst case he's a good big slot corner. we'll see if he can win on the outside too. cousins likes going deep

agreed, he's not a pro bowl caliber, but he can be that reliable 3rd down guy

[spurraider21]

D-Jax runs a 4.3, reagor runs a roughly 4.5

meanwhile, Lamb is basically dez bryant redux
i think reagor was hurt at the combine. at his pro day he was clocked at 4.22. pro days are always less accurate and more homerism... but if you watch his tape he's clearly not a 4.47 guy.

[FrostKing]

Belichick taking advantage of the Chargers

[spurraider21]

Easiest Called It in the history of Call Its
you called it

[spurraider21]

wonder what chargers moved up for. possibly josh jones? they signed bulaga but have no left tackle

edit: they took kenneth murray. it's a solid pick tbh. i like him more than patrick queen

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jeudy, Lamb are blue chippers

Ruggs, Reagor, Jefferson and the next couple that follow are red chip.

[Holden_Caulfield]

thats a horrible haul for a 1st round pick lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

i think reagor was hurt at the combine. at his pro day he was clocked at 4.22. pro days are always less accurate and more homerism... but if you watch his tape he's clearly not a 4.47 guy.

4.22 is deion sanders territory... but Reagor is certainly raw for now. Not a "step in week 1 of rookie season and show off" kind of guy. don't think they're cutting Alshon Jeffery after all. maybe Reagor starts in the slot, if nothing else an Agholor replacement.

[Millennial_Messiah]

corner was the right move.

but was arnette really the guy?

not a fan of day 1 this year. our day 1 wasnt very good last year either.

but when's the last time it has? Other than the two best players that you drafted that are no longer with you (by choice)?

2017...Gareon Conley... bust, traded for a low pick to Houston last year
2018... fucking Kolton Miller over Derwin James :lol
2019... Josh Jacobs is solid, but, the other 2 guys you drafted are busts, and solid RBs like Jacobs could be found in the mid rounds
2020... pick a red chip receiver with 2 blue chips on the board, and then the 8th best corner in the draft :lol

[spurraider21]

but when's the last time it has? Other than the two best players that you drafted that are no longer with you (by choice)?

2017...Gareon Conley... bust, traded for a low pick to Houston last year
2018... fucking Kolton Miller over Derwin James :lol
2019... Josh Jacobs is solid, but, the other 2 guys you drafted are busts, and solid RBs like Jacobs could be found in the mid rounds
2020... pick a red chip receiver with 2 blue chips on the board, and then the 8th best corner in the draft :lol
one of them missed the season with a shoulder injury

[Millennial_Messiah]

one of them missed the season with a shoulder injury

yeah I remember that play, week 1 of monday night football. I didn't think Abram was that great though nor will be. Another Karl Joseph type, and they wasted a pick on another guy (Melifonwu) at that position too. They love drafting mediocre, injury prone strong safeties but they took a 2nd round grade o-lineman when arguably the best SS of this generation was on the board in 2018.

[Millennial_Messiah]

saints were smart taking a center, they were definitely worse last year after losing Unger

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers gonna take... Mims? Even most the red chips are off the board at WR at this point.

[spurraider21]

yeah I remember that play, week 1 of monday night football. I didn't think Abram was that great though nor will be. Another Karl Joseph type, and they wasted a pick on another guy (Melifonwu) at that position too. They love drafting mediocre, injury prone strong safeties but they took a 2nd round grade o-lineman when arguably the best SS of this generation was on the board in 2018.
what do you want me to saw. i said at the time that i didnt like the ferrell pick, the kolton miller pick. sometimes players dont pan out. i didnt have an issue with the conley pick, but we recovered a 3rd round pick for him. miller played better last year, but yes derwin would have been better. i dont mind abram. joseph was undersized for his style of play, which is why they drafted abram to replace him.

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers should pull a Ravens and take Love honestly. For the shits and giggles.

[spurraider21]

Aiyuk to the Niners after a trade-up. I like it.

Michael Pittman and Denzel Mims are my 2 top receivers left

[spurraider21]

Kristian Fulton, Jaylon Johnson, Trevon Diggs, Jeff Gladney are still available. Those are all good corners.

[spurraider21]

Aiyuk + Deebo with Kittle... thats nasty. up to jimmy G

[Millennial_Messiah]

what do you want me to saw. i said at the time that i didnt like the ferrell pick, the kolton miller pick. sometimes players dont pan out. i didnt have an issue with the conley pick, but we recovered a 3rd round pick for him. miller played better last year, but yes derwin would have been better. i dont mind abram. joseph was undersized for his style of play, which is why they drafted abram to replace him.

They've done nothing but squandered elite talent and lost major value in the Gruden era. They basically replaced two 20 dollar bills with like 7 or 8 quarters.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Kristian Fulton, Jaylon Johnson, Trevon Diggs, Jeff Gladney are still available. Those are all good corners.

but, they are red chippers. truthfully there were only 2 blue chip talents in the secondary in this year's draft. Just Okudah and Henderson, no safeties. I thought maybe McKinney but he's really fallen imo.

[spurraider21]

but, they are red chippers. truthfully there were only 2 blue chip talents in the secondary in this year's draft. Just Okudah and Henderson, no safeties. I thought maybe McKinney but he's really fallen imo.
how many blue chippers do you think there are in a given year?

[Millennial_Messiah]

OH SHIT

packers moved up... could they be Feeling the Love?

[spurraider21]

packers moved up... think they grab a receiver. I like Mims/Pittman the most. I'm not crazy about Higgins but he's there as well

all big guys though

[spurraider21]

WOW jordan love to packers

[FrostKing]

49ers strong 1st Round

Draft younger versions of Buckner and Sanders

[Millennial_Messiah]

how many blue chippers do you think there are in a given year?

max 10-12 on average tbh.

This year...

1-3 QBs (not sure imo)
2 WRs (Jeudy and Lamb)
no RBs
no TEs
4 OTs
no G/Cs
1 Edge (Young)
2 IDL
1 ILB (Simmons)
2 CB
0 S
0 K/P/LS

[Millennial_Messiah]

WOW jordan love to packers

CALLED IT!!!

So when Cousins expires next year, does he get the tag, and then leaves and is replaced in Minnesota by ......one Aaron Rodgers?

[spurraider21]

max 10-12 on average tbh.
arite man, and there's 32 picks in the first round :lol... you're crying that there arent blue chippers past 20

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seahawks getting McKinney or Queen tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

arite man, and there's 32 picks in the first round :lol... you're crying that there arent blue chippers past 20

Nah, I'm just 'splainin. I'm actually pretty stoked that my team got a blue chip player at 17, even if it wasn't really a position of need.

[spurraider21]

seahawks with a stinker pick. they should have traded back like they always do :lol

ravens up next. think they should get a big outside receiver for lamar to compliment hollywood down the field and andrews at TE. go for pittman/mims/higgins

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe there's an eventual wagner/wright replacement. Good player.

[spurraider21]

baltimore continuing to stack that front 7

[Millennial_Messiah]

Queen to the best defensive franchise in sports is a DAMN good pick. He's basically a better Anthony Barr or Onwuasor that they just lost in free agency.

[Millennial_Messiah]

but then again spurraider21 ...... the Cowboys picked a running back at 4th overall when they could have had Ramsey, so neither one of our organizations are perfect.

[spurraider21]

dolphins have the top 2 paid corners in the CB and drafted another one.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Noah Igbinoghene is a terrible pick there. Not just an overdraft, but also.... a slot corner in the 1st round? Because you already have 2 top 15 corners signed to 5+ year deals with tons of cap hit money. Don't understand it

[Millennial_Messiah]

dolphins have the top 2 paid corners in the CB and drafted another one.

damn, you stole my post

[Millennial_Messiah]

I guess Flores is trying to rebuild the Gilmore-Malcolm Butler-Mccourty-Mccourty patriots? I guess

[FrostKing]

Short defensive athlete with average cover skills?

That is not a 1st Round pick

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fulton the 3rd best corner is still on the board, the rest of these guys drafted after henderson are mid to late 2nd round talent imo

[Millennial_Messiah]

Short defensive athlete with average cover skills?

That is not a 1st Round pick
none of these guys are. It's an offense stacked draft and teams are still overdrafting by drafting defense out of need.

McKinney is still on the board and I thought he was arguably blue chip, no doubt the best safety in the 2020 draft. Minkah fitzpatrick clone. But oh well

[Millennial_Messiah]

No RBs or Safeties in the entire 1st round. Just bizarre, but telling as per what modern NFL teams value. Still, bizarre. Likely never happened before

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao okay so there is 1 running back after all. But that little scat back guy? He won't survive as a primary running back by any sorts. That's the sort of guy that usually lasts to the 3rd or 4th round. Luxury pick, super overdraft. Darren Sproles.

[Millennial_Messiah]

doubt I will ever forgive Goodell for 2014 and 2017, but he was solid tonight. Solid A- performance from Goodell. If only he didn't bumble and fumble his words, like one Joe Biden.

[spurraider21]

spurraider21's Official 2020 Mock Draft:

(link to my 2019 mock draft: https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277725&p=9778114&viewfull=1#post9778114)

I won't be projecting any trades. The main shock here is that I don't see a natural spot for Isaiah Simmons here, except possibly the Giants or Panthers. I don't think it's a sure thing he goes as high as people think because of positional need. Assuming he does go top 10, though, that changes the Raiders first pick to a WR. Without further ado:

1 - Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow, QB. No explanation needed. He checks every box imaginable except that he doesn't have a cannon like Stafford, but very few do.

2 - Washington Redskins - Chase Young, DE. Assuming they stay put at #2, he's easily the best player on the board, and the Skins won't be going QB only a year after taking Haskins. He is in the Myles Garrett tier of DE prospects. Once every few years kind of guy. This is not a deep edge class, but he is better than anybody who came out last year.

3 - Detroit Lions - Jeffrey Okudah, CB. It's not a position that ordinarily goes this high, but he is a pretty complete prospect. The Lions don't have any need for one of the big name OT's, and they really need a CB to replace Slay. I think Simmons is tempting for Patricia here, but Okudah fills a huge need.

4 - New York Giants - Andrew Thomas, OT. Honestly, I think the top 4 OT's are graded pretty similarly, and it's hard to peg what order they'll go in. Thomas is not the most athletic of the group. He and Wirfs are the best technicians, but Thomas gets the nod because he has played on the left side more. I think Simmons is the BPA, but the Giants are investing in Daniel Jones and he needs help in the worst way.

5 - Miami Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa, QB. They really wanted Rosen to emerge, but ended up having to go back to Fitzmagic. It was worth giving up a 2 for Rosen, but he's not worth passing up on the position here. His durability concerns me more than his arm strength, but he has great ball placement and solid mobility, but he's not some scrambling dynamo like Russell Wilson. He's more reminiscent to Drew Brees than anybody when factoring height/accuracy/mobility, but I have concerns because he played with a ridiculously elite supporting cast and his first read got open nearly every time.

6 - LA Chargers - Justin Herbert, QB. I really hope this happens. The Chargers are obviously in the QB market (no, Tyrod Taylor is not a legitimate long term plan), but the dropoff after Tua is steep. Herbert has all the tools, but doesn't put it together on tape. He's like Trubisky with better size and arm strength, or Josh Allen with worse running ability. This isn't a deep QB class, but they take what's there.

7 - Carolina Panthers - Derrick Brown, DT. I think they're also very tempted to take Isaiah Simmons, who is falling because of need, not talent. They lost Gerald McCoy, Dontari Poe, and Mario Addison from their defensive line, Brown is brutally strong and provides just enough disruption in the passing game to justify being picked this high.

8 - Arizona Cardinals - Mekhi Becton, OT. Before the Hopkins trade, I would have penciled them in for a WR to help out Kyler, but now they want to give some pass protection, and take the guy with by far the most upside at the position in Becton. The Louisville Cardinal becomes an Arizona Cardinal.

9 - Jacksonville Jaguars - Tristan Wirfs, OT. While WR remains a possibility here, they are satisfied enough with DJ Chark and Dede Westbrook to justify waiting until a later pick in a deep class to add to that position. They shore up the offensive line which was a liability last year. The Jags are a legitimate Tank for Trevor contender.

10 - Cleveland Browns - Jedrick Wills, OT. The Browns are also tempted to go Simmons here, but this team was disastrous on the OL last year, particularly at tackle. Wills is the last of the "big four" tackles.

11 - New York Jets - Jerry Jeudy, WR. The Jets need a lot of help at both WR and OT, and the decision became easier after 3 straight tackles came off the board. Jeudy steps in day 1 as the preferred target for Darnold.

12 - Las Vegas Raiders - Isaiah Simmons, LB/S. The Raiders had been locked in on taking either of Jeudy or Lamb. Great talents at a position of need. The Simmons slide ends though, as the Raiders take a dynamic hybrid defensive player to combat Mahomes and the Chiefs.

13 - San Francisco 49ers - CeeDee Lamb, WR. They add another YAC monster to an offense that already includes George Kittle and Deebo Samuel. They let Emmanuel Sanders walk, and replace him with a long term WR1.

14 - Tampa Bay Bucs - Javon Kinlaw, DT. The Bucs were really hoping one of the top tier OT's fell so they could protect Brady, but the value isn't there to take Josh Jones at this point, so they take the best player on the board, a disruptive, pass rushing interior lineman to fill the void left by Gerald McCoy a year ago.

15 - Denver Broncos - Henry Ruggs, WR. While I'm not very high on Ruggs, he provides an ideal complement to the more possession based Sutton, and gives Drew Lock an explosive downfield weapon.

16 - Atlanta Falcons - CJ Henderson, CB. The Falcons have needs across their defense, but Henderson has great physical tools and is a tier ahead of any CB remaining on the board.

17 - Dallas Cowboys - K'Lavon Chaisson, DE. While this isn't particularly the biggest position of need, and the Cowboys were really hoping to land CJ Henderson to replace Byron Jones, Chaisson is the only other edge rusher in this draft worthy of a day 1 pick after Chase Young. He sits opposite Demarcus Lawrence to wreak havoc on Wentz. You dont need great cover corners if opposing QB's don't have time in the pocket.

18 - Miami Dolphins - Josh Jones, OT. Miami decides its not too early to take Josh Jones and protects Tua, their new franchise QB.

19 - Las Vegas Raiders - Kristian Fulton, CB. The Raiders decide that after Lamb/Jeudy are off the board, the next 6-7 receivers on the board are comparable enough in value to justify waiting (and perhaps trading up into the second round) for their next pick to take one. Instead, they address another glaring position of need, and take the prototypically sized Fulton who was battle tested in the SEC.

20 - Jacksonville Jaguars - Justin Jefferson, WR. After having taken an offensive lineman earlier, they take the next WR off their board, a guy who has shown he can play in the slot or outside. Jefferson looked like a possession WR in college, but he ran in the 4.4 range, giving teams hope he can become a more dangerous weapon with some development. Perhaps they give Minshew a chance to shine with a stronger OL and a new toy out on the perimeter.

21 - Philadelphia Eagles - Jalen Reagor, WR. The Eagles desperately need downfield speed on their offense, and Reagor is that guy with Ruggs off the board (I personally think Reagor is the better of the two). Their offense sputtered out after DeSean Jackson got hurt, and Reagor fits what they need perfectly.

22 - Minnesota Vikings - AJ Terrell, CB. The Vikings use the Stefon Diggs pick to replace Xavier Rhodes, and what was been a declining corner position for them, generally. Terrell had a rough championship game, but that was against an all-time college QB throwing to 2 first round caliber WR's (Chase will go top 10 next year).

23 - New England Patriots - Patrick Queen, LB. I'm not buying the Jordan Love talk for this pick. He was quite frankly not a good college QB, and I don't think BB has the patience for a guy as raw as this. Instead, they take an athletic, versatile linebacker who can run/tackle but also showed good coverage instincts and burst.

24 - New Orleans Saints - Kenneth Murray, LB. These 2 linebacker picks can be swapped, as they are similar in profile. Murray is a bit better at being physical and taking on blocks in the run game, though Queen shows a tad more pop/burst, though I think they are very close. The Saints don't have a lot of weaknesses, but they take a versatile defender who can hopefully help out against all division rivals (Falcons just traded for Hayden Hurst, the Panthers will use and abuse CMC, and even with those big time receivers, Brady still loves the short passing game).

25 - Minnesota Vikings - Yetur Gross-Matos, DE. The Vikings are tempted to go receiver here, but Zimmer will bang the table for more defense, and they need to replace Everson Griffen, even though the value here isn't outstanding.

26 - Miami Dolphins - AJ Epenesa, DE. The Dolphins use the 3rd of their picks to help out on defense. With the 2 highest paid corners in the league (Xavien Howard and Byron Jones) already in the secondary, and the two top linebackers off the board, they take a defensive linemen who was projected to go significantly higher before testing awfully at the combine.

27 - Seattle Seahawks - Ross Blacklock, DT. The Seahawks need to address their defensive front, which was good not great even with Clowney last year. There isn't much value left at edge, so they take an athletic, strong, penetrating defensive tackle.

28 - Baltimore Ravens - Michael Pittman, WR. So, the Ravens don't really have much in the way of needs... maybe they could use help at linebacker, but there aren't any worth taking here after Murray/Queen. After the resounding success that was Marquise Brown as Lamar Jackson's deep weapon, they get him another complement on the outside, with the big and fast Michael Pittman. His catch radius is big enough to give Jackson some margin for error, and his big frame allows him to win contested balls on tough third downs.

29 - Tennessee Titans - Jaylon Johnson, CB. The titans have committed to Tannehill, and they think AJ Brown is a legit WR1, which is why they don't go offense here. Instead, they shore up an underperforming CB group with a physical, instinctive CB who maybe needs to learn a bit of discipline, but has a very high ceiling and good ball skills.

30 - Green Bay Packers - Tee Higgins, WR. The Packers receivers outside of Davante Adams were a massive weakness last year, and they currently don't really have much in the way of a tight end. In comes Tee Higgins, a big slot receiver with great ball skills and good enough speed to make it at the next level.

31 - San Francisco 49ers - Xavier McKinney, S. After getting Lamb earlier, the Niners go defense here, with the versatile, do-it-all McKinney who shows good enough cover skills to play FS but also is a very sturdy tackler who can match up against TE's and play SS. He will slide in next to Jimmie Ward to complete that secondary.

32 - Kansas City Chiefs - Jeff Gladney, CB. The Chiefs are loaded on offense, and their defensive front is disruptive. However, they are very vulnerable on the back end, and they address it with Gladney, who isn't the biggest or most imposing corner, but has good coverage instincts and is aggressive on the ball. The Chiefs prioritize playmaking/turnovers above all else.
womp womp

green = correct pick
blue = correct position
red = wrong

i did not project any trades, and that made some of the picks impossible (patriots and niners both traded out of the first round)

9 hits
4 small misses
19 whiffs

[spurraider21]

still a lot of good players on the board as there were a number of surprise picks.

CB - Kristian Fulton, Jaylon Johnson, Trevon Diggs
S - Xavier McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield Jr.
WR - Michael Pittman, Denzel Mims, Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault

[spurraider21]

Fulton the 3rd best corner is still on the board, the rest of these guys drafted after henderson are mid to late 2nd round talent imo
Terrell and Gladney justified first round picks. The others... not as much imo

last year everybody thought Greedy Williams was a steal in the 2nd round and he had a pretty rough rookie season.

[FrostKing]

spurraider21's Official 2020 Mock Draft:

49ers drafting Safety? Resigned one.

Drafted replacements for the two best players they lost. I think going Defense early was smart decision.

[Millennial_Messiah]

still a lot of good players on the board as there were a number of surprise picks.

CB - Kristian Fulton, Jaylon Johnson, Trevon Diggs
S - Xavier McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield Jr.
WR - Michael Pittman, Denzel Mims, Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault
last year, the top safeties lasted all the way until the bottom of the 2nd round.

Hoping for something similar so the Cowboys can still get McKinney and therefore shore up strong safety once and for all.

[spurraider21]

:lol chargers drafting herbert when they could have just signed winston and drafted a great player like simmons

[FrostKing]

49ers won the 1st Round

This is the most innovative and aggressive franchise currently in the NFL

[phxspurfan]

Von Miller's reaction to 9ers picking DT Javon Kinlaw and not WR Jerry Jeudy

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https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Javon-Kinlaw-Von-Miller-upset-Broncos-NFL-draft-15222833.php

[Will Hunting]

I guess Flores is trying to rebuild the Gilmore-Malcolm Butler-Mccourty-Mccourty patriots? I guess
Those four were never on the team together, Jason McCourty signed the same offseason Butler left.

Try again.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Those four were never on the team together, Jason McCourty signed the same offseason Butler left.

Try again.
Yeah I knew that, but you get the picture. Just like what Vrabel did with acquiring Butler, Logan Ryan to go with Adoree Jackson and a smart, fast FS in Byard.

The objective: try to win games playing single high man coverage and rushing 5 or 6 to stop the other team's passing game by force. Sometimes you give up big plays that way, but they're cool with that if they can get off the field quickly the majority of the time and then win the T.O.P. battle with their own offense.

It's the opposite of "bend but don't break" pussy defense.

[monosylab1k]

It's the opposite of "bend but don't break" pussy defense.

AKA The Matt Patricia Special

[spurraider21]

Texans pay tunsil. 3 years, 66 mil. they had no choice but to pay him whatever he wanted after giving up 2 firsts in that deal

[spurraider21]

Raiders picked the wrong players at the right positions. still think we need more corners and probably another receiver. have 3 third round picks, so i think they should jump into the 2nd if the right guy falls.

i still really like denzel mims as a target at WR. laviska shenault would also be pretty awesome to pair with Ruggs. there is still some depth at corner. Fulton is the consensus next man up, but i think the raiders would prefer trevon diggs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

AKA The Matt Patricia Special

the one that gave up 41 against the backup QB-led eagles with all the marbles on the table

then you have the one that gave up 3 points in the same exact amount of time against the "millennial messiah" darling of NFL coaching

= I think Miami has a brighter future than Detroit

[Millennial_Messiah]

Raiders picked the wrong players at the right positions. still think we need more corners and probably another receiver. have 3 third round picks, so i think they should jump into the 2nd if the right guy falls.

i still really like denzel mims as a target at WR. laviska shenault would also be pretty awesome to pair with Ruggs. there is still some depth at corner. Fulton is the consensus next man up, but i think the raiders would prefer trevon diggs.
Jeudy would have been perfect because he's a slot perfect route runner guy, which would fit in a Carr scheme since he is a weaker arm QB with great short to medium pass accuracy.

Ruggs is... idk. He can catch and elude people and run, he can be a burner, but if they drafted him to be a deep threat, it doesn't bode well for Carr's future in Vegas imo.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Texans pay tunsil. 3 years, 66 mil. they had no choice but to pay him whatever he wanted after giving up 2 firsts in that deal

22m a year for a tackle :lol the Cowboys have been paying Tyron Smith half of that for the past 6 years or so, and Smith >>> Tunsil.

[benefactor]

Texans pay tunsil. 3 years, 66 mil. they had no choice but to pay him whatever he wanted after giving up 2 firsts in that deal
Unsurprising. It's an overpay but it's actually the next 4 seasons since it doesn't kick in until after this coming season. By the time we get to year 4 this will likely look like the price for a franchise Olineman. Furthermore, after watching Houston patchwork together offensive lines with players not named Duane Brown I really don't give a fuck how much money they give him.

As far as the upcoming pick goes, just get a fucking defensive lineman...preferably Gross-Matos or Epenesa. I wouldn't hate a safety either if it was Delpit. Billy will probably draft another RB though.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Unsurprising. It's an overpay but it's actually the next 4 seasons since it doesn't kick in until after this coming season. By the time we get to year 4 this will likely look like the price for a franchise Olineman. Furthermore, after watching Houston patchwork together offensive lines with players not named Duane Brown I really don't give a fuck how much money they give him.

As far as the upcoming pick goes, just get a fucking defensive lineman...preferably Gross-Matos or Epenesa. I wouldn't hate a safety either if it was Delpit. Billy will probably draft another RB though.

problem is I don't think Tunsil is elite. Fat Billy needs to go, but I've said that non-stop (on Spurstalk) since week 3 of the 2016 season.

[FrostKing]

Jeudy would have been perfect because he's a slot perfect route runner guy, which would fit in a Carr scheme since he is a weaker arm QB with great short to medium pass accuracy.

Ruggs is... idk. He can catch and elude people and run, he can be a burner, but if they drafted him to be a deep threat, it doesn't bode well for Carr's future in Vegas imo.
Gruden will dump Carr sooner than later to buy himself time. But you need a competitive team in Year 1 of new park/stadium

[benefactor]

I don't give a flying fuck what you think Andrew...and I've said that non-stop since you started posting regularly on this forum.

[spurraider21]

Unsurprising. It's an overpay but it's actually the next 4 seasons since it doesn't kick in until after this coming season. By the time we get to year 4 this will likely look like the price for a franchise Olineman. Furthermore, after watching Houston patchwork together offensive lines with players not named Duane Brown I really don't give a fuck how much money they give him.

As far as the upcoming pick goes, just get a fucking defensive lineman...preferably Gross-Matos or Epenesa. I wouldn't hate a safety either if it was Delpit. Billy will probably draft another RB though.
hm, i havent looked at the breakdown yet, but they probably dumped some amount of the 66 mil into this year, so you're not really paying him 22 per year through the 3 year extension.

[benefactor]

hm, i havent looked at the breakdown yet, but they probably dumped some amount of the 66 mil into this year, so you're not really paying him 22 per year through the 3 year extension.
13 mil is a signing bonus spread over the next four seasons. So $13.4M 2020, $19.75M 2021, $20.75M 2022, $22.25 2023.

[Millennial_Messiah]

oh shizzz - early 2nd round run on WRs!! Red-chip WRs are almost gone...

[Millennial_Messiah]

cowboys need to draft defense twice tonight.

[Millennial_Messiah]

...so they're giving up on kerryon johnson already? lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

also hoping Mason Fine gets drafted tomorrow tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :pctoss

[FrostKing]

Question

How many of these black families rented AirBnB for the draft?

[benefactor]

Billy will take Cole Kmet. Calling my shot here.

[Millennial_Messiah]

so now it's Delpit or bust... someone please take Kmet because you know that's who drunk-ass Jerruh wants...

[spurraider21]

Texans spend the Deandre Hopkins pick on Ross Blacklock, DT

[benefactor]

Blacklock...I'll take it. Would have rather had Epenesa but at least its on the DL

[leemajors]

I don't give a flying fuck what you think Andrew...and I've said that non-stop since you started posting regularly on this forum.

:lol

[benefactor]

Texans spend the Deandre Hopkins pick on Ross Blacklock, DT
Could have spent it on Cole Kmet. Silver linings tbh

[spurraider21]

Have to believe the Jags will go OT or WR.

[spurraider21]

Shenault to Jags. i like him

[Millennial_Messiah]

there goes the first brown chip WR tbh. Red chips off the board I think

[Millennial_Messiah]

bears desperately needed a tight end, so Kmet made sense there. also he's off the board, sorry Drunk Jerruh

[spurraider21]

Delpit to Browns is a great pick for them. perfect free safety to complement newly signed Karl Joseph, and to replace free agent loss Damarious Randall. their secondary is very high pedigree. Denzel Ward, Karl Joseph, Grant Delpit all first round picks, Greedy Williams second round pick

[Millennial_Messiah]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spurraider21]

Antoine Winfield to the Bucs. there go the consensus top safeties

KJ Hamler to the Broncos. a small lightning fast slot receiver to fit between Jeudy and Sutton. really loading up on the weapons for Drew Lock (they also signed melvin gordon this offseason)

[Holden_Caulfield]

Shenault to Jags. i like him
whats the 411 on him? i like that they addressed the WR spot sooner than later

[spurraider21]

whats the 411 on him? i like that they addressed the WR spot sooner than later
its like if saquon barkely played WR

ridiculous athlete, breaks more tackles than any WR, and actually has pretty good hands. can return kicks. issue is he's very unpolished, doesnt really run routes. the reason he fell is because of the concern he is another cordarelle patterson type. also got hurt a couple of times.

he had a groin injury at the combine and timed 4.59 but he's faster than that

[Holden_Caulfield]

its like if saquon barkely played WR

ridiculous athlete, breaks more tackles than any WR, and actually has pretty good hands. can return kicks. issue is he's very unpolished, doesnt really run routes. the reason he fell is because of the concern he is another cordarelle patterson type. also got hurt a couple of times.

he had a groin injury at the combine and timed 4.59 but he's faster than that

nice. sounds like justin blackmon :lol

[spurraider21]

cowboys grab corner, Trevon Diggs

big issue with him is that he's not an elite athlete, but he plays with good technique

[spurraider21]

nice. sounds like justin blackmon :lol
blackmon was a jump ball winner type, more of a classic outside receiver. shenault is probably more explosive with the ball in his hands

[Millennial_Messiah]

cowboys grab corner, Trevon Diggs

big issue with him is that he's not an elite athlete, but he plays with good technique
4.5 corner, quite tall, rangy, good tackler, smart, Stefon Diggs' brother.

Comps to richard sherman. Plays the ball like him too unlike byron jones

[spurraider21]

cowboys getting lamb at 17 and then diggs at 51 is outstanding

[Millennial_Messiah]

cowboys getting lamb at 17 and then diggs at 51 is outstanding
Taller, stronger and better tackler than byron jones who had 2 interceptions in 5 years as a cowboy. But hey, Jones jumped real high and chased down Jay Ajayi from behind!! Whoop-dee-doo.

[Millennial_Messiah]

memo to ESPN dumbass, Diggs is 6'3" not 6'1", definitely a press corner with ball skills

[Millennial_Messiah]

HOLY SHIT

:lmao :lmao :lmao WENTZ :lmao :lmao :lmao

[phxspurfan]

wtf? Eagles pass over all of the WRs to pick a QB that isn't a QB to back up their all star QB

[Millennial_Messiah]

Eagles repaced Donovan McNabb with ........... Donovan McNabb 2.0. Holy mother of fuck.

[Millennial_Messiah]

wtf? Eagles pass over all of the WRs to pick a QB that isn't a QB to back up their all star QB
:lmao Wince is getting replaced

[spurraider21]

epenesa finally off the board to the bills. hard not to love that

[spurraider21]

eagles took a WR in round 1... Wentz always gets hurt.

also, Hurts to Ertz

[benefactor]

Damn good draft by Dallas so far.

They are mentioning the Eagles copying the Saints with Hurts and dialing up some of the plays they use with Hill. I could see that tbh

[benefactor]

epenesa finally off the board to the bills. hard not to love that
Great value. I thought he'd be gone in the 40's

[FrostKing]

Stopping by to LOL EAGLEs. Pulling a Packers

Playoff teams drafting backup QBs

[spurraider21]

so much for using my keeper on marlon mack or mark ingram

colts and ravens have both taken running backs in the 2nd round. guess that confirms im keeping josh jacobs

[spurraider21]

Stopping by to LOL EAGLE (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7728)s. Pulling a Packers

Playoff teams drafting backup QBs
last time the packers did that they drafted aaron rodgers

[Millennial_Messiah]

So the Iggles now have Hurts and a QB who is always hurt.

[phxspurfan]

Damn good draft by Dallas so far.

They are mentioning the Eagles copying the Saints with Hurts and dialing up some of the plays they use with Hill. I could see that tbh

It's a strategy but literally any position would be better than drafting Taysom Hill in the 2nd round. Most best would be WR/FS/SS/OT/OG. Also would be decent for them would be TE/RB