Harris County shatters record for turnout on Day 1 of early voting

[RandomGuy]

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

HOUSTON — Harris County has shattered its opening day record for early voting turnout.

They broke it just before 2 p.m. Tuesday with several hours left to go before polls close for the day.

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

Harris County Clerk Chris Hollins has been expecting a record turnout in this election.

He’s also added a record number of early voting locations with a 122 in total. That’s nearly triple the old record from 2016.

Ten drive-thru voting sites like the one outside NRG Arena are new to Texas, too.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/politics/elections/harris-county-early-voting-turnout-opening-day/


:tu

[RandomGuy]

Related:

Texas adds 1.8M registered voters since 2016 presidential election

A record 16.9 million Texans are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 election, according to the latest data from the Texas secretary of state’s office.

It’s an increase of about 1.8 million voters since the 2016 presidential election, when 15 million, or 78.2% of the state’s voting-age population, registered to vote.

The latest figure, released Monday, accounted for 78.3% percent of the state’s roughly 21.5 million eligible voters, although it’s not the final statewide registration number ahead of the Nov. 3 election. The official count is expected in the coming days, according to secretary of state officials.

The number grew by nearly 300,000 from two weeks ago, the last time the agency reported registration figures.

The deadline to register to vote was Oct. 5. Early voting started Tuesday and runs through Oct. 30.

Nearly all eligible voters in Travis County were registered to vote this year, according to Travis County Tax Assessor-Collector Bruce Elfant.

Of the county’s more than 850,000 eligible voters, a record 97% of them are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 general election, Elfant said.

That’s a 17.2% increase since the 2016 presidential election, when Travis County had about 725,000 registered voters, according to the secretary of state’s office.

Other Central Texas counties saw the number of registered voters grow by more than 24% since 2016, among the highest increases in the state.

Williamson County jumped from 300,000 to more than 375,000 registered voters, a more than 25% increase.

Hays County saw a 24% increase and Comal County saw a more than 25% bump.

The figures come despite lagging new voter registrations in some of Texas’ biggest counties, including Travis, when the coronavirus pandemic first hit Texas.

READ MORE: Voter registration has flatlined in big urban counties

Bexar County increased from 1 million to nearly 1.2 million, or a 13.1% increase in registered voters since 2016.

Harris County saw an 11% increase, while Dallas County saw an 8.5% increase.

The Texas Democratic Party says there are promising signs that Texas could elect the first Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976, pointing to an analysis Tuesday from TargetSmart, a Democratic data firm, which found that 60% of new registered voters are either under the age of 25 or people of color.

“As one of the youngest and most diverse states in the country, the electorate in Texas has fundamentally shifted over the past few years,” party executive director Manny Garcia said in a statement. “Turnout in the election is expected to break records and Texas Democrats have built a winning coalition of voters because we have earned the trust of Texans.”

Also on the line: a U.S. Senate seat; a dozen congressional seats, all but two of them held by Democrats, that national political experts say could switch party hands; and the Texas House, where Democrats must flip nine seats to become the majority.

But Republicans say they expect to win the down the line, and retain control of the Texas House. President Donald Trump’s campaign has hosted a flurry of events and ramped up its field operation in the state over the past couple months, mindful that a Trump victory must go through Texas. There would be no path to a Trump victory without winning Texas.

But with polling showing the presidential contest in Texas close, the Biden campaign is boosting ad spending and campaign appearances in the state.

As Jill Biden, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigned in El Paso, Dallas and Houston on Tuesday, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign said Democrats were “wasting their time in Texas.”

“Nevertheless, we welcome them to light their money on fire because Texas will reelect President Trump on Nov. 3,” Samantha Cotten said in a statement Tuesday.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20201013/texas-adds-18m-registered-voters-since-2016-presidential-election

[Spurtacular]

All the wing nuts have checked in.

[ElNono]

All the wing nuts have checked in.

Sorry this is happening to you

[djohn2oo8]

Just voted

[Winehole23]

Me too.

5 minutes, hassle-free.

[Winehole23]

Nationally, voters have cast 8.6% of the total votes counted in the 2016 general election.

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

[tholdren]

Related:

Texas adds 1.8M registered voters since 2016 presidential election

A record 16.9 million Texans are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 election, according to the latest data from the Texas secretary of state’s office.

It’s an increase of about 1.8 million voters since the 2016 presidential election, when 15 million, or 78.2% of the state’s voting-age population, registered to vote.

The latest figure, released Monday, accounted for 78.3% percent of the state’s roughly 21.5 million eligible voters, although it’s not the final statewide registration number ahead of the Nov. 3 election. The official count is expected in the coming days, according to secretary of state officials.

The number grew by nearly 300,000 from two weeks ago, the last time the agency reported registration figures.

The deadline to register to vote was Oct. 5. Early voting started Tuesday and runs through Oct. 30.

Nearly all eligible voters in Travis County were registered to vote this year, according to Travis County Tax Assessor-Collector Bruce Elfant.

Of the county’s more than 850,000 eligible voters, a record 97% of them are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 general election, Elfant said.

That’s a 17.2% increase since the 2016 presidential election, when Travis County had about 725,000 registered voters, according to the secretary of state’s office.

Other Central Texas counties saw the number of registered voters grow by more than 24% since 2016, among the highest increases in the state.

Williamson County jumped from 300,000 to more than 375,000 registered voters, a more than 25% increase.

Hays County saw a 24% increase and Comal County saw a more than 25% bump.

The figures come despite lagging new voter registrations in some of Texas’ biggest counties, including Travis, when the coronavirus pandemic first hit Texas.

READ MORE: Voter registration has flatlined in big urban counties

Bexar County increased from 1 million to nearly 1.2 million, or a 13.1% increase in registered voters since 2016.

Harris County saw an 11% increase, while Dallas County saw an 8.5% increase.

The Texas Democratic Party says there are promising signs that Texas could elect the first Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976, pointing to an analysis Tuesday from TargetSmart, a Democratic data firm, which found that 60% of new registered voters are either under the age of 25 or people of color.

“As one of the youngest and most diverse states in the country, the electorate in Texas has fundamentally shifted over the past few years,” party executive director Manny Garcia said in a statement. “Turnout in the election is expected to break records and Texas Democrats have built a winning coalition of voters because we have earned the trust of Texans.”

Also on the line: a U.S. Senate seat; a dozen congressional seats, all but two of them held by Democrats, that national political experts say could switch party hands; and the Texas House, where Democrats must flip nine seats to become the majority.

But Republicans say they expect to win the down the line, and retain control of the Texas House. President Donald Trump’s campaign has hosted a flurry of events and ramped up its field operation in the state over the past couple months, mindful that a Trump victory must go through Texas. There would be no path to a Trump victory without winning Texas.

But with polling showing the presidential contest in Texas close, the Biden campaign is boosting ad spending and campaign appearances in the state.

As Jill Biden, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigned in El Paso, Dallas and Houston on Tuesday, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign said Democrats were “wasting their time in Texas.”

“Nevertheless, we welcome them to light their money on fire because Texas will reelect President Trump on Nov. 3,” Samantha Cotten said in a statement Tuesday.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20201013/texas-adds-18m-registered-voters-since-2016-presidential-election

Loloooolloppopppppppoo

Trigger time

[djohn2oo8]

1316175042921877504

[Reck]

1316175042921877504

How long until Abbot shuts that shit down?

[djohn2oo8]

How long until Abbot shuts that shit down?
He is trying to now shut down the drive through voting. But the county set up well to where there are some 24 hour places to go and vote

[Reck]

Second straight day of massive lines being reported in Texas and Atlanta.

[RandomGuy]

Me too.

5 minutes, hassle-free.

They gave us a free disposable paper stylus so we didn't have to touch the touch screen. I am sooo keeping that.

[Winehole23]

They gave us a free disposable paper stylus so we didn't have to touch the touch screen. I am sooo keeping that.Finger cots at the place I went.

[DMC]

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

HOUSTON — Harris County has shattered its opening day record for early voting turnout.

They broke it just before 2 p.m. Tuesday with several hours left to go before polls close for the day.

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

Harris County Clerk Chris Hollins has been expecting a record turnout in this election.

He’s also added a record number of early voting locations with a 122 in total. That’s nearly triple the old record from 2016.

Ten drive-thru voting sites like the one outside NRG Arena are new to Texas, too.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/politics/elections/harris-county-early-voting-turnout-opening-day/


:tu

With everyone working from home why not vote early?

[KobesAchilles]

I'm back at work but will cast my vote Friday :toast

[pgardn]

Why is it that the blue team is relishing a large voter turn out.
i’m thinking the red team should be elated as well as the American public will cast votes at a higher percentage?

oh forgot...

most of the new registrations are fake...
illegals and other scum of the earth

[pgardn]

With everyone working from home why not vote early?

you know everyone says Trump is the best president ever.
and everyone is talking about it.
everyone says so

[DMC]

you know everyone says Trump is the best president ever.
and everyone is talking about it.
everyone says so

clambake said so.

[boutons_deux]

Me too.

5 minutes, hassle-free.

took me an hour, not too bad

The guy behind me had a red tee shirt, looked new, unwashed, with Trump shit all over it.

As we got close to the library door, the security guard said he couldn't go in, so he took it off and worse inside out.

I, otoh, with my white mask and magic marker "F Trump" was allowed. :)

[clambake]

clambake said so.

Rent free in the fat zone

[DMC]

Rent free in the fat zone

You are the fat zone, fatty. You heralded Trump as the GOAT. It's your scarlet letter, wear it proudly.

[clambake]

Sure thing, fatty

[Trainwreck2100]

Got mine done, 30 minutes saw alot of flag gaiters so at least those assholes wore something on their face

[tholdren]

Loloooolloppopppppppoo

Trigger time

[SnakeBoy]

https://earlyvoting.texas-election.com/Elections/getElectionEVDates.do

[RandomGuy]

https://earlyvoting.texas-election.com/Elections/getElectionEVDates.do

10% of registered voters have already voted in the first two days of early voting, given the likely incomplete dataset there.

Your corrupt party's voter suppression efforts seem to not have had the effect that your leaders who put them in play were hoping for, sophist.

Good.

if your ideas and party are so good, why do you have to cheat and lie to win power?

[tholdren]

10% of registered voters have already voted in the first two days of early voting, given the likely incomplete dataset there.

Your corrupt party's voter suppression efforts seem to not have had the effect that your leaders who put them in play were hoping for, sophist.

Good.

if your ideas and party are so good, why do you have to cheat and lie to win power?

Bwahahajhahahhahahahahha

How sad

[RandomGuy]

Bwahahajhahahhahahahahha

How sad

Desperate cry for my attention noted.

You want me to rub your belly or something? jesus

[tholdren]

Desperate cry for my attention noted.

You want me to rub your belly or something? jesus

Lololoooooloolllo

Remember when wrongdomGuy was trying to do math on ifr, cases and hospitalizations. That was hilarious

[tholdren]

Related:

Texas adds 1.8M registered voters since 2016 presidential election

A record 16.9 million Texans are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 election, according to the latest data from the Texas secretary of state’s office.

It’s an increase of about 1.8 million voters since the 2016 presidential election, when 15 million, or 78.2% of the state’s voting-age population, registered to vote.

The latest figure, released Monday, accounted for 78.3% percent of the state’s roughly 21.5 million eligible voters, although it’s not the final statewide registration number ahead of the Nov. 3 election. The official count is expected in the coming days, according to secretary of state officials.

The number grew by nearly 300,000 from two weeks ago, the last time the agency reported registration figures.

The deadline to register to vote was Oct. 5. Early voting started Tuesday and runs through Oct. 30.

Nearly all eligible voters in Travis County were registered to vote this year, according to Travis County Tax Assessor-Collector Bruce Elfant.

Of the county’s more than 850,000 eligible voters, a record 97% of them are registered to vote in the Nov. 3 general election, Elfant said.

That’s a 17.2% increase since the 2016 presidential election, when Travis County had about 725,000 registered voters, according to the secretary of state’s office.

Other Central Texas counties saw the number of registered voters grow by more than 24% since 2016, among the highest increases in the state.

Williamson County jumped from 300,000 to more than 375,000 registered voters, a more than 25% increase.

Hays County saw a 24% increase and Comal County saw a more than 25% bump.

The figures come despite lagging new voter registrations in some of Texas’ biggest counties, including Travis, when the coronavirus pandemic first hit Texas.

READ MORE: Voter registration has flatlined in big urban counties

Bexar County increased from 1 million to nearly 1.2 million, or a 13.1% increase in registered voters since 2016.

Harris County saw an 11% increase, while Dallas County saw an 8.5% increase.

The Texas Democratic Party says there are promising signs that Texas could elect the first Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976, pointing to an analysis Tuesday from TargetSmart, a Democratic data firm, which found that 60% of new registered voters are either under the age of 25 or people of color.

“As one of the youngest and most diverse states in the country, the electorate in Texas has fundamentally shifted over the past few years,” party executive director Manny Garcia said in a statement. “Turnout in the election is expected to break records and Texas Democrats have built a winning coalition of voters because we have earned the trust of Texans.”

Also on the line: a U.S. Senate seat; a dozen congressional seats, all but two of them held by Democrats, that national political experts say could switch party hands; and the Texas House, where Democrats must flip nine seats to become the majority.

But Republicans say they expect to win the down the line, and retain control of the Texas House. President Donald Trump’s campaign has hosted a flurry of events and ramped up its field operation in the state over the past couple months, mindful that a Trump victory must go through Texas. There would be no path to a Trump victory without winning Texas.

But with polling showing the presidential contest in Texas close, the Biden campaign is boosting ad spending and campaign appearances in the state.

As Jill Biden, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigned in El Paso, Dallas and Houston on Tuesday, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign said Democrats were “wasting their time in Texas.”

“Nevertheless, we welcome them to light their money on fire because Texas will reelect President Trump on Nov. 3,” Samantha Cotten said in a statement Tuesday.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20201013/texas-adds-18m-registered-voters-since-2016-presidential-election

How low level

[Blake]

I think the big cities will all vote Democrat. It's all the towns in between and along the Bible belt that are still pro Trump

[Extra Stout]

10% of registered voters have already voted in the first two days of early voting, given the likely incomplete dataset there.

Your corrupt party's voter suppression efforts seem to not have had the effect that your leaders who put them in play were hoping for, sophist.

Good.

if your ideas and party are so good, why do you have to cheat and lie to win power?

The data in Texas actually doesn’t look that promising for Democrats. Trump has the edge so far in early voting, in notable contrast to other battleground states where the Dems are +30 or more. Harris County has had enormous turnout, but Bexar, Dallas, and Travis have been meh. Meanwhile, you look at a Trump-heavy county like Denton where turnout increase percentage dwarfs even Harris.

Democrats believe that high turnout favors them: “when people vote, Democrats win.” That’s true when running against a patrician economic conservative. But white racial grievance populist identity politics are EXTREMELY popular in exurban and rural Texas, and are generating massive turnout. The male chauvinism also appeals to Hispanic men, which is why Trump is running in the high 30’s among Hispanics.

Dan Patrick’s bloviating aside, the Trump campaign thinks that Trump will win by four. Biden’s campaign believes the same thing. Both believe the state is inelastic with few persuadable voters. With base turnout cranked up to 11 on both sides, the cake is largely baked. What’s possible in Texas for Democrats to get is the state legislature and some House seats.

[tholdren]

The data in Texas actually doesn’t look that promising for Democrats. Trump has the edge so far in early voting, in notable contrast to other battleground states where the Dems are +30 or more. Harris County has had enormous turnout, but Bexar, Dallas, and Travis have been meh. Meanwhile, you look at a Trump-heavy county like Denton where turnout increase percentage dwarfs even Harris.

Democrats believe that high turnout favors them: “when people vote, Democrats win.” That’s true when running against a patrician economic conservative. But white racial grievance populist identity politics are EXTREMELY popular in exurban and rural Texas, and are generating massive turnout. The male chauvinism also appeals to Hispanic men, which is why Trump is running in the high 30’s among Hispanics.

Dan Patrick’s bloviating aside, the Trump campaign thinks that Trump will win by four. Biden’s campaign believes the same thing. Both believe the state is inelastic with few persuadable voters. With base turnout cranked up to 11 on both sides, the cake is largely baked. What’s possible in Texas for Democrats to get is the state legislature and some House seats.

Random guy on watch

[boutons_deux]

17 Times More People Have Already Voted Early In 2020 Than Voted In 2016
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/17/early-voting-17-times-higher-2020.html

[tholdren]

17 Times More People Have Already Voted Early In 2020 Than Voted In 2016
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/17/early-voting-17-times-higher-2020.html

Superspreader.


Derptime

[Winehole23]

1317544559740583936

[tholdren]

Superspreader.


Derptime

[ElNono]

1317544559740583936

Trump is winning Texas...

[spurraider21]

Trump is winning Texas...
perhaps. but generally speaking massive turnout isnt going to bode well for him

[DMX7]

perhaps. but generally speaking massive turnout isnt going to bode well for him

Isn't Texas historically the worst state in the country for voter participation? If Trump inspires non-voters to become voters and vote against him then the calculus of "likely voters" in the public polling data could be skewed and Biden could pull off a shocker.

I still think Trump wins but I'm saying there is a chance he could lose.

[spurraider21]

Isn't Texas historically the worst state in the country for voter participation? If Trump inspires non-voters to become voters and vote against him then the calculus of "likely voters" in the public polling data could be skewed and Biden could pull off a shocker.

I still think Trump wins but I'm saying there is a chance he could lose.
im fairly confident biden comes out ahead electorally but i think trump is going to pull fuckery with the supreme court

[Reck]

im fairly confident biden comes out ahead electorally but i think trump is going to pull fuckery with the supreme court

If he wins it by at least 290-295, I just dont see any excuse holding up.

For him to make something of it, it really does need to be within 10 or less electoral votes.

[DMX7]

im fairly confident biden comes out ahead electorally but i think trump is going to pull fuckery with the supreme court

Yeah, it's going to be wild.

[Extra Stout]

Isn't Texas historically the worst state in the country for voter participation? If Trump inspires non-voters to become voters and vote against him then the calculus of "likely voters" in the public polling data could be skewed and Biden could pull off a shocker.

I still think Trump wins but I'm saying there is a chance he could lose.
What observers have missed about Texas is that besides the non-voting Hispanics that allegedly would vote 2:1 Dem if they could be convinced to go to the polls, there’s also a lot of historically non-voting white trash that weren’t interested in voting for Bush, McCain, or Romney, but turn out like bonkers for Trump, even more so now than in 2016, because he’s one of them. There’s a visceral connection there.

[ElNono]

What observers have missed about Texas is that besides the non-voting Hispanics that allegedly would vote 2:1 Dem if they could be convinced to go to the polls, there’s also a lot of historically non-voting white trash that weren’t interested in voting for Bush, McCain, or Romney, but turn out like bonkers for Trump, even more so now than in 2016, because he’s one of them. There’s a visceral connection there.

True, but even then, one could argue that white trash came out for him in 2016, in addition to independents and your average educated conservative.

While I agree his base is extremely excited to go vote for him, they're just not enough for him to win. He's going to need the Darrins or CCs that are not white trash, don't like either candidate, but will still vote for Trump because team sport.

But this is also why I think he'll win Texas, even if by a handful of points. IMO, Texas is much less likely to have Lincoln Project type of anti-Trump conservatives than other states, which generally have a more even conservative-liberal balance.

[Will Hunting]

If he wins it by at least 290-295, I just dont see any excuse holding up.

For him to make something of it, it really does need to be within 10 or less electoral votes.
If Biden wins Florida, it's game over. Florida begins counting mail-in ballots before election day and will have results posted that night. Same thing with North Carolina iirc, Trump has no ammunition for Supreme Court fuckery if he doesn't win both of those states on election night.

IMO the only path towards Trump utilizing the courts to throw the election is if he wins the Sunbelt and can get courts to stop counting ballots in the rustbelt states that can't begin counting mail-in ballots until election day (PA, MI, WI, etc.)..

[Extra Stout]

True, but even then, one could argue that white trash came out for him in 2016, in addition to independents and your average educated conservative.

While I agree his base is extremely excited to go vote for him, they're just not enough for him to win. He's going to need the Darrins or CCs that are not white trash, don't like either candidate, but will still vote for Trump because team sport.

But this is also why I think he'll win Texas, even if by a handful of points. IMO, Texas is much less likely to have Lincoln Project type of anti-Trump conservatives than other states, which generally have a more even conservative-liberal balance.
I’m only referring to Texas. I expect Biden to cruise in MI, PA, and WI, and everything after that is gravy.

[DarrinS]

From reading these posts, I can see not much was learned from 2016

[DarrinS]

How many people are pumped for Joe? My mom is a Biden voter, but only because she hates Trump.

I'm sure the reverse logic is in play, to an extent.

[Will Hunting]

True, but even then, one could argue that white trash came out for him in 2016, in addition to independents and your average educated conservative.

While I agree his base is extremely excited to go vote for him, they're just not enough for him to win. He's going to need the Darrins or CCs that are not white trash, don't like either candidate, but will still vote for Trump because team sport.

But this is also why I think he'll win Texas, even if by a handful of points. IMO, Texas is much less likely to have Lincoln Project type of anti-Trump conservatives than other states, which generally have a more even conservative-liberal balance.
Maybe CC fits the description as a Rockefeller Republican who hates Trump, but Karrin is every bit as much of a white trash MAGAtard as your typical Louie Gohmert supporter in deep east Texas.

[DarrinS]

Maybe CC fits the description as a Rockefeller Republican who hates Trump, but Karrin is every bit as much of a white trash MAGAtard as your typical Louie Gohmert supporter in deep east Texas.

Fuck off

I don't like his personality, but I like the policies

Especially, doubling the standard deduction

[ElNono]

From reading these posts, I can see not much was learned from 2016

What wasn't learned from 2016?

[Will Hunting]

Fuck off

I don't like his personality, but I like the policies

Especially, doubling the standard deduction
Oh Ok so you like him and support him. You're a fan up job losses, recessions, huge national deficits and 8 million people cascading into poverty over the last year.

This is a classic closet MAGAtard line. "I love his policies but I wish he wouldn't tweet so much!!!"

[Th'Pusher]

Fuck off

I don't like his personality, but I like the policies

Especially, doubling the standard deduction

You smoke winstons?

[ElNono]

From reading these posts, I can see not much was learned from 2016

Even better, what did you learn from 2016?

[DarrinS]

Even better, what did you learn from 2016?

Dinosaur polling is useless

I don't trust them

[DarrinS]

You smoke winstons?

Marlboro. Step off

[DarrinS]

Oh Ok so you like him and support him. You're a fan up job losses, recessions, huge national deficits and 8 million people cascading into poverty over the last year.

This is a classic closet MAGAtard line. "I love his policies but I wish he wouldn't tweet so much!!!"

I guess we didn't have a pandemic

[Th'Pusher]

Marlboro. Step off

Reds?

Lights?

Hundreds?

Menthols?

[Will Hunting]

I guess we didn't have a pandemic
:cry muh Trump would be great if you ignore everything he fucked up :cry

[ElNono]

Maybe CC fits the description as a Rockefeller Republican who hates Trump, but Karrin is every bit as much of a white trash MAGAtard as your typical Louie Gohmert supporter in deep east Texas.

I don't think so, but I get the sense he's the narrow view kind (in the sense he cares about his little wins, even if the world is coming down in flames), which is sort of the boomer style, and traditionally those are team players in my experience.

[tholdren]

I don't think so, but I get the sense he's the narrow view kind (in the sense he cares about his little wins, even if the world is coming down in flames), which is sort of the boomer style, and traditionally those are team players in my experience.

Loloooooloolloooloo dumb

[ElNono]

Dinosaur polling is useless

I don't trust them

But polling was overwhelmingly fine before and after 2016?

I get you don't trust them, that's definitely your prerogative, but I don't think it's a complain based in reality, IMO.

[ElNono]

Loloooooloolloooloo dumb

:lol looks like I hit a nerve, must be another stupid boomer

[Will Hunting]

I don't think so, but I get the sense he's the narrow view kind (in the sense he cares about his little wins, even if the world is coming down in flames), which is sort of the boomer style, and traditionally those are team players in my experience.
What are the ideological differences between Karrin and your run-of-the-mill evangelical mouth breather?

[ElNono]

What are the ideological differences between Karrin and your run-of-the-mill evangelical mouth breather?

He's clearly educated. Like, compare Darrin to derp or foldren, it's like night and day.

[DarrinS]

But polling was overwhelmingly fine before and after 2016?

I get you don't trust them, that's definitely your prerogative, but I don't think it's a complain based in reality, IMO.


There were some pollsters who got it right in 2016.

[Reck]

How many people are pumped for Joe? My mom is a Biden voter, but only because she hates Trump.

I'm sure the reverse logic is in play, to an extent.

That's all you need, Darrin. you dont need to have MAGA type love worship for Biden.

I cant imagine 4 more years of Trump.

[DarrinS]

What are the ideological differences between Karrin and your run-of-the-mill evangelical mouth breather?

I'm not evangelical. Like, at all.

[Will Hunting]

He's clearly educated. Like, compare Darrin to derp or foldren, it's like night and day.
That's not an ideological difference. Amy COVID Barrett is educated but that doesn't change the fact she's bible thumping white trash.

[ElNono]

There were some pollsters who got it right in 2016.

Most of them did, IIRC. At least quite a few of them within the margin of error.

[Will Hunting]

I'm not evangelical. Like, at all.
So what are the ideological differences between you and evangelicals? If there's such a wide delta between you and evangelicals on political issues, start naming some.

[ElNono]

That's not an ideological difference. Amy COVID Barrett is educated but that doesn't change the fact she's bible thumping white trash.

It's different, I don't think Darrin is the guy that brings the religious BS at all. But just like Darrin, I suspect Barrett is a team player.

You could make the argument it's even worse to be a team player + educated, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, tbh...

White trash can always claim they're dumb...

[Th'Pusher]

He's clearly educated. Like, compare Darrin to derp or foldren, it's like night and day.

He’s a 50 something year old Java engineer that smokes winstons and drinks shit beer. He’s wildly emotional and pretty gullible.

[Will Hunting]

:lol MAGAtards better get in as many "muh 2016 polls were wrong!" in before November 4th

[Will Hunting]

He’s a 50 something year old Java engineer that smokes winstons and drinks shit beer. He’s wildly emotional and pretty gullible.
:lmao

[ElNono]

He’s a 50 something year old Java engineer that smokes winstons and drinks shit beer. He’s wildly emotional and pretty gullible.

Even if that's the case, you simply can't pile him up with the straight out ignorant.

[DarrinS]

Lol, I'm emotional.

I thought Hillary had it in a landslide.

Now, it looks like Joe does.

Who knows

[DarrinS]

By the way, I know not all Dems are far left, antifa types.

[Th'Pusher]

Even if that's the case, you simply can't pile him up with the straight out ignorant.

Well that’s worse than ignorant tbh. KarrinS has always been low value. Typical indoctrinated “conservative” incapable of considering a democrat because his mom and dad would be upset... if they weren’t dead from smoking winstons and drinking wild turkey.

[Will Hunting]

It's different, I don't think Darrin is the guy that brings the religious BS at all. But just like Darrin, I suspect Barrett is a team player.

You could make the argument it's even worse to be a team player + educated, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, tbh...

White trash can always claim they're dumb...
Most of them know that evangelicals are the only way they win elections so they look past the fact their party relies on getting votes from retards who think the world is only 5,000 years old. They might not be stupid but they're morally bankrupt to the point where they don't see any issues with a political party that relies on dogma and bible fairytales to win elections.

If the GOP was the party of Larry Hogan and Charlie Baker it might do a lot better than the current GOP does in California and the Northeast but it would get throttled in the south and the midwest.

[ElNono]

Like if you want to look at straight our ignorant white trash type, check the derp posts on the Canada thread right now. :lol

I know some of you can't see eye to eye with Darrin, and we've had our number of agreements and disagreements over the years, but it's night and day, tbh

[ElNono]

Most of them know that evangelicals are the only way they win elections so they look past the fact their party relies on getting votes from retards who think the world is only 5,000 years old.

If the GOP was the party of Larry Hogan and Charlie Baker it might do a lot better than the current GOP does in California and the Northeast but it would get throttled in the south and the midwest.

Totally, and I couldn't also say evangelicals are all white trash. Evangelicals are sort of cult members, which is a different thing altogether.

[Reck]

:lol MAGAtards better get in as many "muh 2016 polls were wrong!" in before November 4th

They expect the polls to be wrong by more than half. That's cute.

This is why I think the MAGATs will go full riot mode. They are convinced the polls are wrong and Trump will landslide Biden. Boy when neither of those things happen..

[Will Hunting]

They expect the polls to be wrong by more than half. That's cute.

This is why I think the MAGATs will go full riot mode. They are convinced the polls are wrong and Trump will landslide Biden. Boy when neither of those things happen..
As far as I'm concerned fine, let them show their true colors as much as possible so suburban women will see it's the GOP and right wing militant groups that are the threat to their neighborhoods, not Sunrise Movement protesters wearing tie dye shirts.

I don't want fuckheads like Little Ben Sasse to be able to close the GOP's chapter on Trumpism like he's currently trying to do.

[DarrinS]

We need more people in the center, tbh. Social media is polarizing everyone.

[ElNono]

They expect the polls to be wrong by more than half. That's cute.

This is why I think the MAGATs will go full riot mode. They are convinced the polls are wrong and Trump will landslide Biden. Boy when neither of those things happen..

If Trump wins then he wins, tbh... I have my concerns about our nation if that happens, but frankly, I'm in a privileged position. I'm more concerned for those that are not.

[ElNono]

We need more people in the center, tbh. Social media is polarizing everyone.

I think even what that center looks like is extremely polarizing right now. When you go to the extremes, the center looks like a huge gulf.

[Will Hunting]

We need more people in the center, tbh. Social media is polarizing everyone.
I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.

[Extra Stout]

From reading these posts, I can see not much was learned from 2016
Things learned since 2016:
1) Polls go stale quickly — if they’re two weeks old they might as well be from 1960.
2) Results in different states are not independent, because demographics can be a common mode. So, saying “what are the odds Trump wins all five of these battleground states?” is mathematically wrong. The shift in voter sentiment that helps him win one might also help him win the others. This was the error that caused most pundits to give Clinton a 90%+ chance.
3) Poll results must be adjusted by voter education level just as they are for all those other demographics, because college-educated whites vote radically differently from non-educated whites.
4) Electorate elasticity must be taken into account. A five-point lead is a closer race in the Midwest than it is in the South because there are a lot more persuadable voters.
4) That an event with a 1 in 3 chance in happening happens is not shocking.

[DarrinS]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.

Ok. I agree that we need something better than what we have now.

[Will Hunting]

Things learned since 2016:
1) Polls go stale quickly — if they’re two weeks old they might as well be from 1960.
2) Results in different states are not independent, because demographics can be a common mode. So, saying “what are the odds Trump wins all five of these battleground states?” is mathematically wrong. The shift in voter sentiment that helps him win one might also help him win the others. This was the error that caused most pundits to give Clinton a 90%+ chance.
3) Poll results must be adjusted by voter education level just as they are for all those other demographics, because college-educated whites vote radically differently from non-educated whites.
4) Electorate elasticity must be taken into account. A five-point lead is a closer race in the Midwest than it is in the South because there are a lot more persuadable voters.
4) That an event with a 1 in 3 chance in happening happens is not shocking.
Regarding 3, that was something new in 2016 and pollsters have adjusted for it. Prior to 2016 whites as a whole voted red/blue at roughly the same rate regardless of education, Trumpism just drove a giant wedge in between stupid white people and smart white people (or "educated" and "uneducated" if you want to sugarcoat it).

There was also always a significant amount of undecides in 2016. This year <5% of voters are still undecided (at least 26 million have already voted), and Biden is polling above 50% in the key states. Hillary was never above 50% outside a few outlier polls. The other mistake made in 2016 were pundits assuming undecided voters would split evenly and whoever was winning with decided voters would win.

[ElNono]

Things learned since 2016:
1) Polls go stale quickly — if they’re two weeks old they might as well be from 1960.
2) Results in different states are not independent, because demographics can be a common mode. So, saying “what are the odds Trump wins all five of these battleground states?” is mathematically wrong. The shift in voter sentiment that helps him win one might also help him win the others. This was the error that caused most pundits to give Clinton a 90%+ chance.
3) Poll results must be adjusted by voter education level just as they are for all those other demographics, because college-educated whites vote radically differently from non-educated whites.
4) Electorate elasticity must be taken into account. A five-point lead is a closer race in the Midwest than it is in the South because there are a lot more persuadable voters.
4) That an event with a 1 in 3 chance in happening happens is not shocking.

I also think pollsters did adjust post '16, and 2018 I thought they did pretty well.

If there's one entity that actually cares about not getting it wrong, it's pollsters.

[Trainwreck2100]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.

Whatever you say Comrade Maonin

[DarrinS]

If Trump wins then he wins, tbh... I have my concerns about our nation if that happens, but frankly, I'm in a privileged position. I'm more concerned for those that are not.


I'm sure it was earned and not privileged.

[ElNono]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.

shut up commie. I mean, Blake!

[Will Hunting]

Ok. I agree that we need something better than what we have now.
I believe you when you say that, what I don't think conservatives realize is that there's no way to accomplish that in a way that doesn't involve either heavily regulated & subsidized private healthcare and/or public healthcare. The free market is never going to let affordable health insurance trickle down to people with pre-existing conditions.

[ElNono]

I'm sure it was earned and not privileged.

I think the biggest reason I care is because I've been there before. Nothing like traveling the road to understand what it takes.

[Th'Pusher]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.

I just saw John Cronyn tell me he was going to save Medicare from MJ Hegar’s universal healthcare plan. We have a staunch conservative campaigning on preserving state run healthcare against universal healthcare. Fucking ridiculous.

[Trainwreck2100]

I also think pollsters did adjust post '16, and 2018 I thought they did pretty well.

If there's one entity that actually cares about not getting it wrong, it's pollsters.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the reason the polls were so wrong was because they didn't adjust white people based on college vs non-college and that fucked them. I can't believe white people are so fucking crazy we need to count the learned vs the non learned now.

[Trainwreck2100]

I just saw John Cronyn tell me he was going to save Medicare from MJ Hegar’s universal healthcare plan. We have a staunch conservative campaigning on preserving state run healthcare against universal healthcare. Fucking ridiculous.

Filthy fucking R's getting rid of the straight ticket voting to save his ass

[ElNono]

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the reason the polls were so wrong was because they didn't adjust white people based on college vs non-college and that fucked them. I can't believe white people are so fucking crazy we need to count the learned vs the non learned now.

It's largely the same people that believe in a transparent man in the sky that's creepily looking over their shoulders 24/7, and ALSO does miracles. So yeah, with that bar, anything is possible, tbh

[Winehole23]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.Maybe there is?

https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wh4gglx5iemsa33wjlzskg.png

https://news.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx

[Will Hunting]

I just saw John Cronyn tell me he was going to save Medicare from MJ Hegar’s universal healthcare plan. We have a staunch conservative campaigning on preserving state run healthcare against universal healthcare. Fucking ridiculous.
What Republican senators are saying on healthcare and pre-existing conditions is definitely a hilarious level of dishonesty, but I view that as a positive because it means Hegar has Cornyn fighting on her turf. In 21st century hyper-partisan America, the topic of conversation matters just as much as if not more than who's winning the conversation. When Republicans are insisting it's actually them and not the Democrats who are going to protect Americans with pre-existing conditions, they're losing. No different than how a Democrat caught up in a debate about protecting 2nd amendment rights is losing.

[Extra Stout]

Most of them know that evangelicals are the only way they win elections so they look past the fact their party relies on getting votes from retards who think the world is only 5,000 years old. They might not be stupid but they're morally bankrupt to the point where they don't see any issues with a political party that relies on dogma and bible fairytales to win elections.

If the GOP was the party of Larry Hogan and Charlie Baker it might do a lot better than the current GOP does in California and the Northeast but it would get throttled in the south and the midwest.
I’m not all that sure evangelical beliefs have any depth to them. Their identity is tied to a tribe, that tribe believes certain things, so they affirm them in order to be in that tribe, and that is that. But it’s all just labels they wear — there’s no thought put into any of it. Living out their faith consists of:
1) Go to Sunday sing-along pop concert
2) Listen to Sunday stand-up comedy/motivational speaker routine after the concert
3) Attend midweek book club meeting
4) Hate gays
5) Oppose abortion
6) Always vote Republican no matter what
I think for a lot of white evangelical Christians their “faith” is just part of being white. They follow the white people religion. It’s just a veneer they smear over their white nationalism to make it seem more respectable.

[Th'Pusher]

What Republican senators are saying on healthcare and pre-existing conditions is definitely a hilarious level of dishonesty, but I view that as a positive because it means Hegar has Cornyn fighting on her turf. In 21st century hyper-partisan America, the topic of conversation matters just as much as if not more than who's winning the conversation. When Republicans are insisting it's actually them and not the Democrats who are going to protect Americans with pre-existing conditions, they're losing. No different than how a Democrat caught up in a debate about protecting 2nd amendment rights is losing.

Solid point. And this won’t be taken well here but we can all thank the aca for that tbh.

[Will Hunting]

I’m not all that sure evangelical beliefs have any depth to them. Their identity is tied to a tribe, that tribe believes certain things, so they affirm them in order to be in that tribe, and that is that. But it’s all just labels they wear — there’s no thought put into any of it. Living out their faith consists of:
1) Go to Sunday sing-along pop concert
2) Listen to Sunday stand-up comedy/motivational speaker routine after the concert
3) Attend midweek book club meeting
4) Hate gays
5) Oppose abortion
6) Always vote Republican no matter what
I think for a lot of white evangelical Christians their “faith” is just part of being white. They follow the white people religion. It’s just a veneer they smear over their white nationalism to make it seem more respectable.
Agreed with all of this except you missed by pro gun violence. Wanting every dumb redneck in America to be armed to the hilt and ready to shoot up a school full of kindergarteners is a cornerstone evangelical belief.

[DarrinS]

If we could get our country to stop being over-consuming fat fucks, we would see far fewer "pre-existing conditions"

That's why our covid death rate is so high.

[Will Hunting]

If we could get our country to stop being over-consuming fat fucks, we would see far fewer "pre-existing conditions"

That's why our covid death rate is so high.
I somewhat agree. A big first step in that happening is campaign finance laws that make it so companies like General Mills don't have congress in its back pocket. The fact we've let fast food companies and soda infiltrate our public schools is deplorable, and it all started in the 80s when Reagan decided he wanted to "reduce government" and change the way school lunches are done.

I'm not saying it's just Republicans on this to be clear. OUr public schools still classify pizza as a vegetable because of Amy Klobuchar.

[Extra Stout]

Agreed with all of this except you missed by pro gun violence. Wanting every dumb redneck in America to be armed to the hilt and ready to shoot up a school full of kindergarteners is a cornerstone evangelical belief.
Now I realize Michael Moore had it right in Bowling for Columbine. They cope with their fear of black people and feelings of loss of control by stockpiling guns.
I should have seen it years ago. White evangelicals almost never reach out to black evangelicals. Black evangelicals who like diversity have to seek them out. The whites have no interest in forming community with Black Christians. Jesus means nothing, race is everything.

[Will Hunting]

Now I realize Michael Moore had it right in Bowling for Columbine. They cope with their fear of black people and feelings of loss of control by stockpiling guns.
I should have seen it years ago. White evangelicals almost never reach out to black evangelicals. Black evangelicals who like diversity have to seek them out. The whites have no interest in forming community with Black Christians. Jesus means nothing, race is everything.
You'll occasionally get the Amy COVID Barrett types who adopt kidnapped Haitian kids, but that's largely just so they can show the world how not racist they are. The trend of evangelical families adopting Haitian/African "orphans" has a really creepy and racist underlying belief - as if evangelicals are the white saviors who give these kids the upbringing they need surrounded by wholesome white people.

[DarrinS]

Now I realize Michael Moore had it right in Bowling for Columbine. They cope with their fear of black people and feelings of loss of control by stockpiling guns.
I should have seen it years ago. White evangelicals almost never reach out to black evangelicals. Black evangelicals who like diversity have to seek them out. The whites have no interest in forming community with Black Christians. Jesus means nothing, race is everything.


Get a grip, dude. Talk to people you don't know. I don't own a gun, btw.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's largely the same people that believe in a transparent man in the sky that's creepily looking over their shoulders 24/7, and ALSO does miracles. So yeah, with that bar, anything is possible, tbh

the polls previously accounted for evangelicals though, the non college educated non evangelical just decided to join the evangelicals in crazy land

[Trainwreck2100]

You'll occasionally get the Amy COVID Barrett types who adopt kidnapped Haitian kids, but that's largely just so they can show the world how not racist they are. The trend of evangelical families adopting Haitian/African "orphans" has a really creepy and racist underlying belief - as if evangelicals are the white saviors who give these kids the upbringing they need surrounded by wholesome white people.

That wasn't to be good, that was purely a political stunt, when she said she cried talking to her black daughter about George Floyd, you could smell the bullshit coming out the screen

[DarrinS]

Trump <> Hitler
Biden <> Stalin

Everyone okay?

[ElNono]

Trump <> Hitler
Biden <> Stalin

Everyone okay?

Hitler is kind of a compliment... it's more like Trump <> Maduro. Really banana republic, pandering to the ignorant kind, tbh

[Will Hunting]

Get a grip, dude. Talk to people you don't know. I don't own a gun, btw.
Sorry but evangelicals supporting a president who talks about grabbing women by the pussy and who cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star shows they were never about god or protecting Christian values. They were always about controlling women's bodies and hating minorities. Evangelicals are by and large dirt poor white people angry about the fact they live in poverty with no shot at a better life but think their problems have to do with women getting abortions and gays getting married.

[baseline bum]

But polling was overwhelmingly fine before and after 2016?

I get you don't trust them, that's definitely your prerogative, but I don't think it's a complain based in reality, IMO.

Polling was fine in 2016 too. Just media talking heads misinterpreting them as if Trump had to win 10 coinflips instead of two.

[ElNono]

the polls previously accounted for evangelicals though, the non college educated non evangelical just decided to join the evangelicals in crazy land

Yeah, but it's not because of religion, it's largely because of "deplorables"... Trump did well in saying he loves the ignorant.

And that's a separate discussion, how we include the less fortunate in the head/education dept into a society and world that's more complicated by the minute.

[Winehole23]

Trump <> Hitler
Biden <> Stalin

Everyone okay?

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/eva-peron-gty-jef-181130_hpEmbed_11x15_992.jpg

[baseline bum]

If we could get our country to stop being over-consuming fat fucks, we would see far fewer "pre-existing conditions"

That's why our covid death rate is so high.

LOL always blaming society when a Republican fucks up. Classic Karrin.

[ElNono]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/eva-peron-gty-jef-181130_hpEmbed_11x15_992.jpg

yep, it's banana republic, cult of personality shit... and it's entirely calculated. This is a guy that 110% hates and disdains the poor outside of the cameras, no doubt about it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Yeah, but it's not because of religion, it's largely because of "deplorables"... Trump did well in saying he loves the ignorant.

And that's a separate discussion, how we include the less fortunate in the head/education dept into a society and world that's more complicated by the minute.

Which I completely understood, Trump promised them a return of manufacturing, and plant openings, without any plan to actually deliver. He was never challenged on it and in most cases Hillary didn't even show up. It's the same demo that are still with him after he was clearly bullshitting that are full of shit.

[Trainwreck2100]

LOL always blaming society when a Republican fucks up. Classic Karrin.

Yeah let's get Americans on an exercise and diet plan, and then the first thing the R's would do is go out and consume 3 large pizzas, for "mah freedom"

[baseline bum]

Yeah let's get Americans on an exercise and diet plan, and then the first thing the R's would do is go out and consume 3 large pizzas, for "mah freedom"

Win-win

[Trainwreck2100]

Win-win

Looking at how the mask situation is fucking us because of them, I think we'd still end up losing somehow

[baseline bum]

Which I completely understood, Trump promised them a return of manufacturing, and plant openings, without any plan to actually deliver. He was never challenged on it and in most cases Hillary didn't even show up. It's the same demo that are still with him after he was clearly bullshitting that are full of shit.

Always cracks me the right constantly complains about DC being so out of touch while their cult leader they're willing to die for said health insurance is something you pay $12 a year or $15 a month for until you're 70 and need to use it.

[baseline bum]

Looking at how the mask situation is fucking us because of them, I think we'd still end up losing somehow

not unless beetus goes airborne

[DarrinS]

Yeah let's get Americans on an exercise and diet plan, and then the first thing the R's would do is go out and consume 3 large pizzas, for "mah freedom"

Its on all of us, tbh.

But my BMI is low 20's

[phxspurfan]

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

HOUSTON — Harris County has shattered its opening day record for early voting turnout.

They broke it just before 2 p.m. Tuesday with several hours left to go before polls close for the day.

The old Day 1 early voting record was around 68,000 which was set on the first day of the 2016 presidential election.

Harris County Clerk Chris Hollins has been expecting a record turnout in this election.

He’s also added a record number of early voting locations with a 122 in total. That’s nearly triple the old record from 2016.

Ten drive-thru voting sites like the one outside NRG Arena are new to Texas, too.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/politics/elections/harris-county-early-voting-turnout-opening-day/


:tu


:rollin drive thru voting


How Texas

[baseline bum]

Its on all of us, tbh.

But my BMI is low 20's

lightbulbs = Obama's fault
Trump kills 225k by having no COVID plan = :cry society's fault :cry

[Trainwreck2100]

:rollin drive thru voting


How Texas

Makes sense what with the covid, curbside voting is already a thing

[DarrinS]

lightbulbs = Obama's fault
Trump kills 225k by having no COVID plan = :cry society's fault :cry


If you're fat, that's on you. Good luck.

[baseline bum]

If you're fat, that's on you. Good luck.

Remember when you used to think private vs public positions were bad? Back in what... 2016?

[DarrinS]

Makes sense what with the covid, curbside voting is already a thing

Or just vote in person. Its not the apocalypse.

[Winehole23]

Makes sense what with the covid, curbside voting is already a thing:tu

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/15/harris-county-texas-voting/

[DarrinS]

Remember when you used to think private vs public positions were bad? Back in what... 2016?

Not sure what that has to do with letting yourself become fat.

[Winehole23]

Or just vote in person. Its not the apocalypse.Was super easy for me. Hardly took 5 minutes.

[baseline bum]

Not sure what that has to do with letting yourself become fat.

What does someone being fat have to do with Trump's fuckups with the pandemic?

[DarrinS]

Was super easy for me. Hardly took 5 minutes.

Cool.

[baseline bum]

Was super easy for me. Hardly took 5 minutes.

Where are you at to vote so quickly?

[DarrinS]

What does someone being fat have to do with Trump's fuckups with the pandemic?

You know who really handled like a boss? Cuomo

[phxspurfan]

Makes sense what with the covid, curbside voting is already a thing

So people are ok with going to HEB, but voting in person oh no


Voted already in person on the tablet. My parents, in their 60s, did it first and set the example tbh. But it was hardly scary or crowded. Just got to do your research and find a good polling place that’s not on the south side or whatever

[baseline bum]

You know who really handled like a boss? Cuomo

If only Cuomo had invoked the DPA to produce PPE and COVID tests and let the post office send masks to every household in America

[Spurminator]

Imagine being such an insecure little bitch that you're still defending Trump after all of this. What a sad life to need to do something like that.

[DarrinS]

If only Cuomo had invoked the DPA to produce PPE and COVID tests and let the post office send masks to every household in America


Cuomo wanted 40k ventilators

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/04/study-88-of-coronavirus-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-ny.html#:~:text=Of%20hospitalized%20patients%20who %20were%20placed%20on%20ventilators%2C,cannot%20br eathe%20on%20their%20own%2C%2088%20percent%20died.

[baseline bum]

Cuomo wanted 40k ventilators

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/04/study-88-of-coronavirus-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-ny.html#:~:text=Of%20hospitalized%20patients%20who %20were%20placed%20on%20ventilators%2C,cannot%20br eathe%20on%20their%20own%2C%2088%20percent%20died.

If only Cuomo had invoked the DPA to produce PPE and COVID tests and let the post office send masks to every household in America

[Spurminator]

Is Cuomo still standing in front of crowds of thousands of people saying that covid's not that big of a deal and you don't need to wear a mask? And railing against state and local governments who are trying to contain the spread?

[baseline bum]

15 cases going on 8 million

[Winehole23]

Where are you at to vote so quickly?North central Austin.

The erstwhile Highland Mall is as they say en vias de desarrollo -- being developed. The Holiday Inn Conference Center there is prety chill.

(It's the sort of place that, as currently situated, you wouldn't be driving by unless you were basically going there to start with.)

[baseline bum]

North central Austin.

The erstwhile Highland Mall is as they say en vias de desarrollo -- being developed. The Holiday Inn Conference Center there is prety chill.

(It's the sort of place that, as currently situated, you wouldn't be driving by unless you were basically going there to start with.)

Damn, probably be a quicker for me to drive there, vote, and drive back than go vote at my neighborhood polling center.

[Spurminator]

Is Cuomo touting bullshit treatments and cures?

[baseline bum]

It'll be over by April from the heat

[DarrinS]

15 cases going on 8 million

Good.

That's how we reach herd.

[baseline bum]

Good.

That's how we reach herd.

Herd mentality for 15 cases going on zero?

[DarrinS]

Is Cuomo touting bullshit treatments and cures?


No treatment for the dead.

[ElNono]

Which I completely understood, Trump promised them a return of manufacturing, and plant openings, without any plan to actually deliver. He was never challenged on it and in most cases Hillary didn't even show up. It's the same demo that are still with him after he was clearly bullshitting that are full of shit.

Not sure all of them are with him. They seemingly are not with him in Michigan anymore, for example, but we'll see.

[Winehole23]

Damn, probably be a quicker for me to drive there, vote, and drive back than go vote at my neighborhood polling center.I'm sorry to hear that.

In Georgia the nine counties that are the Greater Atlanta Metro Area are seriously oversubscribed for voters per location. It's a shame that Justice Roberts decided in Shelby that racism is over and hypertechnical voter roll maintenance plus eliminating polling locations is permitted in the general interest of the fair and efficient administration of elections.

[DarrinS]

I'm sorry to hear that.

In Georgia the nine counties that are the Greater Atlanta Metro Area are seriously oversubscribed for voters per location. It's a shame that Justice Roberts decided in Shelby that racism is over and hypertechnical voter roll maintenance plus eliminating polling locations is permitted in the general interest of the fair and efficient administration of elections.

check

[Winehole23]

checkKarrin with the check mark endorsing the 21st Century Jim Crow.

[Will Hunting]

I'm sorry to hear that.

In Georgia the nine counties that are the Greater Atlanta Metro Area are seriously oversubscribed for voters per location. It's a shame that Justice Roberts decided in Shelby that racism is over and hypertechnical voter roll maintenance plus eliminating polling locations is permitted in the general interest of the fair and efficient administration of elections.
Roberts was just looking for an argument he could use to finish what his mentor William Rehnquist started. Rehnquist was an anti-voting rights zealot ever since his involvement with Operation Eagle Eye. IMO the easy solution to Roberts' ruling is the Dems passing a new voting rights act that simply applies to all 50 states and provides funding for election administration so there's no argument about it being discriminatory or burdensome for any particular state.

Everyone is talking about Biden expanding SCOTUS, he ought to expand the COA first. Right now it's the Trump appointed appeals judges in the circuit courts that are killing us on election-related rulings. Trump got to fill 8 years of vacancies on the 5th circuit when he took office because Feinstein refused to send any of Obama's nominees to committee without Cornyn and Cruz signing off on them first. Packing the appeals courts is actually something FDR successfully.

[Spurminator]

check

Triggered by facts.

[DMC]

:lol adult level tantrums.. USSC bad and racist when they don't rule to suit you.

[Winehole23]

1317851381563359240

[DarrinS]

1317851381563359240

So much for voter suppression

[Winehole23]

So much for voter suppressionit's awesome that turnout can minimize and possibly reverse the damage.

[SnakeBoy]

Where are you at to vote so quickly?

Here in Kendall county there was no wait at all. Double the number of poll workers and triple the number of voting machines from previous election. They offered us coffee and donuts afterwards but we were going out to eat so we passed.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Karrin thinks as long as people are showing up and voting it means voter suppression doesn't exist.

[Blake]

:lol Karrin thinks as long as people are showing up and voting it means voter suppression doesn't exist.

I can vote in muh zip code just fine

[Will Hunting]

I can vote in muh zip code just fine
Hey it got dark outside last night I guess that means the sun doesn't exist!

[tholdren]

Is Cuomo touting bullshit treatments and cures?

Book sales! Cases!

[Reck]

Book sales! Cases!

:lol

Cashing in on the virus while there is a pandemic still going on. Cuomo takes after your dear leader well.

[tholdren]

:lol

Cashing in on the virus while there is a pandemic still going on. Cuomo takes after your dear leader well.

Lol so triggered you think I voted for Trump. Low iq

[Blake]

Lol so triggered you think I voted for Trump. Low iq

Who are you going to vote for now?

[tholdren]

Who are you going to vote for now?

Loloooolllllooll

Why does it matter who I would vote for? You've just admitted you make science political. Low iq

[Reck]

Loloooolllllooll

Why does it matter who I would vote for? You've just admitted you make science political. Low iq

:lol foldren

[Trainwreck2100]

Good.

That's how we reach herd.

well let's expand on that shall we, we reach herd immunity at 70% infection which we'll call 226 million which is means means we need to infect 28 times the amount of people and if the deaths stay the same multiply that by 28 and you get about 5 million dead. But that's good i guess

[tholdren]

well let's expand on that shall we, we reach herd immunity at 70% infection which we'll call 226 million which is means means we need to infect 28 times the amount of people and if the deaths stay the same multiply that by 28 and you get about 5 million dead. But that's good i guess

Lolooololll wrong. What terrible math

[Trainwreck2100]

Lolooololll wrong. What terrible math

no it's not

[tholdren]

no it's not

It is. Typical

[tholdren]

well let's expand on that shall we, we reach herd immunity at 70% infection which we'll call 226 million which is means means we need to infect 28 times the amount of people and if the deaths stay the same multiply that by 28 and you get about 5 million dead. But that's good i guess
Loloooolooloklol


"If the deaths stay the same multiply that... "


Lolooooooook

[Ef-man]

^^^^
Moar gossip.

[tholdren]

well let's expand on that shall we, we reach herd immunity at 70% infection which we'll call 226 million which is means means we need to infect 28 times the amount of people and if the deaths stay the same multiply that by 28 and you get about 5 million dead. But that's good i guess

This is WrongdomGuy math right here.

[Trainwreck2100]

It is. Typical

no it's not

[koriwhat]

Now I realize Michael Moore had it right in Bowling for Columbine. They cope with their fear of black people and feelings of loss of control by stockpiling guns.
I should have seen it years ago. White evangelicals almost never reach out to black evangelicals. Black evangelicals who like diversity have to seek them out. The whites have no interest in forming community with Black Christians. Jesus means nothing, race is everything.

lmao taking the word of a corporatist commie as the gospel

[tholdren]

well let's expand on that shall we, we reach herd immunity at 70% infection which we'll call 226 million which is means means we need to infect 28 times the amount of people and if the deaths stay the same multiply that by 28 and you get about 5 million dead. But that's good i guess

Lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Lol

no it's not

[Joseph Kony]

lmao taking the word of a corporatist commie as the gospel

"corporatist commie"

:lmao druggie too strung out to understand that doesnt make sense at all

[tholdren]

no it's not

It is because its literally incoherent from a math standpoint

[Trainwreck2100]

It is because its literally incoherent from a math standpoint

no it's not, maybe it's incoherent for you

[tholdren]

no it's not, maybe it's incoherent for you

It is. And because you dont know why makes it even more ignorant.

[Trainwreck2100]

It is. And because you dont know why makes it even more ignorant.

no it's not

[tholdren]

It is. And because you dont know why makes it even more ignorant.

Duh multiply by 2

[Bogie]

Lolooololll wrong. What terrible math


Since I haven’t gotten your explanation yet. Can you explain to me what you mean by the math being wrong?

[Trainwreck2100]

Duh multiply by 2

no it's not

also :lol you quoted yourself

[tholdren]

Since I haven’t gotten your explanation yet. Can you explain to me what you mean by the math being wrong?

Sure.
1. He's assuming everyone is susceptible
2. He's assuming cdc accuracies in case counts.
3. Hes assuming simply multiplying by 2 will give him the amount ef deaths essentially, without any type of statistical analysis i.e. distribution, population, sample, variance, etc..

[spurraider21]

I am in the center. I want the same healthcare system that every other developed country has. There's nothing polarizing about that.
give a functional health care system that will take care of the people

listen to scientists on issues of science

neither of those things should be remotely polarizing and tbh aren't anywhere else in the world.

and we can go from there

[tholdren]

give a functional health care system that will take care of the people

listen to scientists on issues of science

and we can go from there
Lol blame it on healthcare.

[spurraider21]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[Blake]

Lol blame it on healthcare.

Yeah keep pretending you're not a trumper

[Bogie]

Sure.
1. He's assuming everyone is susceptible
2. He's assuming cdc accuracies in case counts.
3. Hes assuming simply multiplying by 2 will give him the amount ef deaths essentially, without any type of statistical analysis i.e. distribution, population, sample, variance, etc..

and what has led you to believe he’s incorrect?

[baseline bum]

nm, already said this earlier in the thread

[tholdren]

and what has led you to believe he’s incorrect?

Because math and science already have proven 1 2 and 3 incorrect. If you need these explained to you, you probably shouldn't comment

[tholdren]

Yeah keep pretending you're not a trumper

Lol you keep reverting back to this when you are wrong.

[Blake]

Lol you keep reverting back to this when you are wrong.

You're a weird person.

[Ef-man]

You're a weird person.

foldren reminds me of the derp in how messed up he is in the head.

:tu

[DarrinS]

and what has led you to believe he’s incorrect?

Not everyone is susceptible. Numerous studies show 30-50% pre-existing immunity. That's why the herd immunity threshold is low.

[baseline bum]

Not everyone is susceptible. Numerous studies show 30-50% pre-existing immunity. That's why the herd immunity threshold is low.

How many times are you going to think this pandemic is over now?

[Blake]

How many times are you going to think this pandemic is over now?

:lol

[DarrinS]

How many times are you going to think this pandemic is over now?

It's over for my family 100%

[baseline bum]

It's over for my family 100%

You're probably lying. You claimed you got it back in March but you have only said you found out you were positive within the last couple of months, so apparently you had antibodies for like 20 weeks. Right.

[DarrinS]

You're probably lying. You claimed you got it back in March but you have only said you found out you were positive within the last couple of months, so apparently you had antibodies for like 20 weeks. Right.

Whole family had it.

[tholdren]

How many times are you going to think this pandemic is over now?

Its been over for months. You are still to low level to understand why reporting deaths on time will allow you to define pandemic thresholds.

Keep proceeding

[baseline bum]

Whole family had it.

And had antibodies for 20+ weeks.

[baseline bum]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

[tholdren]

Its been over for months. You are still to low level to understand why reporting deaths on time will allow you to define pandemic thresholds.

Keep proceeding

[tholdren]

And had antibodies for 20+ weeks.
Lollooookkookkookloolooloooool

Never leave your house

[baseline bum]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

foldren's a faggot

[baseline bum]

Karrin's family has all had it in March, which is why he was so concerned with his daughter bringing friends over

[DarrinS]

And had antibodies for 20+ weeks.

I still wear a mask to make you pussies feel safe.

[DarrinS]

Karrin's family has all had it in March, which is why he was so concerned with his daughter bringing friends over

No longer have that concern.

[Will Hunting]

Karrin's family has all had it in March, which is why he was so concerned with his daughter bringing friends over
To be fair I think COVID was just an easy excuse Karrin had for why his daughter wasn't allowed to invite Jerome and Tyson over.

[DarrinS]

To be fair I think COVID was just an easy excuse Karrin had for why his daughter wasn't allowed to invite Jerome and Tyson over.

:lol

[baseline bum]

I still wear a mask to make you pussies feel safe.

Only because it's the law, faggot. Back when it wasn't you didn't two fucks about infecting the people working at gas stations.

[baseline bum]

To be fair I think COVID was just an easy excuse Karrin had for why his daughter wasn't allowed to invite Jerome and Tyson over.

Karrin's COVID story is about as believable as when he spent all of 2008 and 2009 claiming he was an Obama voter.

[Bogie]

Because math and science already have proven 1 2 and 3 incorrect. If you need these explained to you, you probably shouldn't comment


can you cite where science has disproven it? Can you provide your sources?

[Bogie]

Not everyone is susceptible. Numerous studies show 30-50% pre-existing immunity. That's why the herd immunity threshold is low.


can you cite those studies?

[baseline bum]

can you cite where science has disproven it? Can you provide your sources?

no he can't and won't

[DMX7]

Anybody who named their daughter Karen in 2019 is probably regretting it now.

[DarrinS]

Only because it's the law, faggot. Back when it wasn't you didn't two fucks about infecting the people working at gas stations.

Ok then

[Bogie]

no he can't and won't


you guys continually argue with him. I am trying to give him a chance to explain his stance, rather than a flow of lols and whatnot.

He already deflected to if you don’t understand you shouldn’t comment, but this is his one glorious moment for him to explain his stance

[DarrinS]

Little known fact. This virus doesn't kill you. Your own immune system kills you. Especially among the fat and old.

[DarrinS]

Anybody who named their daughter Karen in 2019 is probably regretting it now.

Lol

[baseline bum]

you guys continually argue with him. I am trying to give him a chance to explain his stance, rather than a flow of lols and whatnot.

He already deflected to if you don’t understand you shouldn’t comment, but this is his one glorious moment for him to explain his stance

You're like three months behind man, he never showed his numbers so has gone on the ignore list

[baseline bum]

Little known fact. This virus doesn't kill you. Your own immune system kills you. Especially among the fat and old.

Everyone knew that shit

[Will Hunting]

Little known fact. This virus doesn't kill you. Your own immune system kills you. Especially among the fat and old.
What's your point? AIDS is the same way. You never die from AIDS, you die because it destroys your immune system and you can't fight anything off.

[Bogie]

Little known fact. This virus doesn't kill you. Your own immune system kills you. Especially among the fat and old.

this is really really stupid.

it’s the introduction of the virus that exacerbates the conditions.

I just had a 49 year old friend in perfect health lose a month long battle with the virus. It’s not just the sick.

I get that you’re scared of everything, but you don’t care about other people. And your attempts at trying to keep yourself from shitting your pants for reasons other than being blind stinking drunk are pathetic

[DarrinS]

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563

[Bogie]

What's your point? AIDS is the same way. You never die from AIDS, you die because it destroys your immune system and you can't fight anything off.


we just passed 3 years since my mother passed. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 3 months before she died.

her actual cause of death was acute renal failure. She didn’t have issues with her kidneys at any point in her life. The tumor caused her entire system to shut down, but that wasn’t what killed her.

Darrin is an idiot

[DarrinS]

this is really really stupid.

it’s the introduction of the virus that exacerbates the conditions.

I just had a 49 year old friend in perfect health lose a month long battle with the virus. It’s not just the sick.

I get that you’re scared of everything, but you don’t care about other people. And your attempts at trying to keep yourself from shitting your pants for reasons other than being blind stinking drunk are pathetic


Lol, perfect health. I doubt it.

[DMX7]

this is really really stupid.

it’s the introduction of the virus that exacerbates the conditions.

I just had a 49 year old friend in perfect health lose a month long battle with the virus. It’s not just the sick.

I get that you’re scared of everything, but you don’t care about other people. And your attempts at trying to keep yourself from shitting your pants for reasons other than being blind stinking drunk are pathetic

There have been many stories of people who are fit and in seemingly good health die in their early to mid-30's. Some people are just affected by it more than others and which symptoms you get may just be up to genetics.

[tholdren]

There have been many stories of people who are fit and in seemingly good health die in their early to mid-30's. Some people are just affected by it more than others and which symptoms you get may just be up to genetics.

No there havent

[DMX7]

Lol, perfect health. I doubt it.

I don't want to go through this thread searching but what were your symptoms?

[Bogie]

Lol, perfect health. I doubt it.

you’re an idiot. A frightened cowardly idiot.

[DarrinS]

we just passed 3 years since my mother passed. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 3 months before she died.

her actual cause of death was acute renal failure. She didn’t have issues with her kidneys at any point in her life. The tumor caused her entire system to shut down, but that wasn’t what killed her.

Darrin is an idiot


Sorry to hear that. Went to a funeral on Saturday for a 79 yr old family member who died of throat cancer. Cancer is the real deal.

[Spurminator]

It's so so sad to watch Karrin try to paint himself as some kind of courageous alpha male on an anonymous message board. I can only imagine what kind of sad sack life he actually has underneath all of the self-assuring lies he pitches here.

[tholdren]

can you cite where science has disproven it? Can you provide your sources?

1. The cdc website.
2. The cdc website
3. The cdc website

[weebo]

we just passed 3 years since my mother passed. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 3 months before she died.

her actual cause of death was acute renal failure. She didn’t have issues with her kidneys at any point in her life. The tumor caused her entire system to shut down, but that wasn’t what killed her.

Darrin is an idiot

Immediate cause of death is what's written on the death certificate. If you get COVID, and COVID causes acute renal failure leading to death, acute renal failure is what's written on the death certificate.

[Bogie]

No there havent


I asked for citations showing what widely accepted science you are using to make your assertions? Could you please provide those?