The Official Greg Abbott is Doing Awesome Thread

[Dirks_Finale]

Beto did a great job and if texas voters werent the most retarded on the planet-
they might see the obvious

but its fucking texas

Robert got exposed for being the whiney little, flip flopping biznitch that he is.

[Winehole23]

Abbott was so confident he would only agree to debate Beto for one hour on a Friday night in an empty auditorium.

[CosmicCowboy]

So what office will Beto run for next after he gets his ass kicked in the governors race?

[ChumpDumper]

So what office will Beto run for next after he gets his ass kicked in the governors race?

You voting for Abbott?

[CosmicCowboy]

You voting for Abbott?

No, why? Trying to score some points there chump?

I'm over the "lesser of evils" voting. I dont consider Robert Francis a viable alternative.

[DarrinS]

You voting for Abbott?

You voting for Beta?

[ChumpDumper]

No, why? Trying to score some points there chump?

I'm over the "lesser of evils" voting. I dont consider Robert Francis a viable alternative.Just asking.

Not voting is voting for Abbott tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

You voting for Beta?
I am absolutely voting for any Democrat running against Republicans who seek to disenfranchise perfectly eligible voters.

It's quite simple. You made my choice an easy one.

Are you voting for disenfranchisement, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

Abbott lied about our electric bills.

He's been the Gov for eight years, GOP has been in control of Texas since the mid-1990s. When are Abbott and TX Republicans going to stop lying about the problems and start fixing them?

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[Winehole23]

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[Spurs Homer]

If anyone watched the "post" debate thing it was interesting that the small group of texans chosen as an audience-

voted abbot ahead - 40% to 27% for Beto

then after the debate the same small group voted again and the result was
pretty much the reverse
(if anyone watched - please post results as I forgot how far ahead Beto was after debate)

[Trainwreck2100]

If anyone watched the "post" debate thing it was interesting that the small group of texans chosen as an audience-

voted abbot ahead - 40% to 27% for Beto

then after the debate the same small group voted again and the result was
pretty much the reverse
(if anyone watched - please post results as I forgot how far ahead Beto was after debate)

basically it was 40 to 27 to 33 undecided before

26 percent of the undecided went to beto 3 percent went to abbott the rest stayed undecided. 43 to 50 to 7 Everyone who made up their minds before the debate kept their minds made up the undecideds went to beto

[Spurs Homer]

basically it was 40 to 27 to 33 undecided before

26 percent of the undecided went to beto 3 percent went to abbott the rest stayed undecided. 43 to 50 to 7 Everyone who made up their minds before the debate kept their minds made up the undecideds went to beto

cool, thanks

it was interesting that it swung so far after just one debate

now we know why hot wheels wants no more debates

[Dirks_Finale]

If Robert were brighter he would constantly hit Abbott on Snovid-21 and high property Tax.

Instead, he thinks talking Uvalde 24-7 in a place where a majority of people love guns will push him over the top.

Thank you, Texas Democrats for making this election cycle a lock for the GOP :tu

[Winehole23]

Abbott lied about our electric bills.

He's been the Gov for eight years, GOP has been in control of Texas since the mid-1990s. When are Abbott and TX Republicans going to stop lying about the problems and start fixing them?

1576272687533502464the GOP is so carried away with owning the libs it has left basic governance by the wayside.

[Winehole23]

apparently, even a bad, corrupt government is laudable if it does nothing but spite liberals

[Isitjustme?]

posts copium meme stolen from left.



I thought the left can't meme bud?

[daboom1]

I thought the left can't meme bud?

Left didnt start Pepe the Frog memes bud.

[Monostradamus]

Left didnt start Pepe the Frog memes bud.
A leftist created Pepe and it started as a meme on twitch, the right stole it because they can’t make up their own stuff :lmao

[Monostradamus]

I wonder why Abbott even agreed to the debate. He nothing to gain or lose in the debate because his victory is in the bag. If he destroyed Beto, nobody would care. If Beto destroyed him, nobody would care. I can think of a million better things to do with my time than an utterly pointless debate in an empty auditorium.

[daboom1]

A leftist created Pepe and it started as a meme on twitch, the right stole it because they can’t make up their own stuff :lmao

It started on 4chan you dumb faggot :lol

[Monostradamus]

I wonder why Abbott even agreed to the debate. He nothing to gain or lose in the debate because his victory is in the bag. If he destroyed Beto, nobody would care. If Beto destroyed him, nobody would care. I can think of a million better things to do with my time than an utterly pointless debate in an empty auditorium.
This perfectly describes SpursTalk so I guess I just owned myself.

[daboom1]

I wonder why Abbott even agreed to the debate. He nothing to gain or lose in the debate because his victory is in the bag. If he destroyed Beto, nobody would care. If Beto destroyed him, nobody would care. I can think of a million better things to do with my time than an utterly pointless debate in an empty auditorium.

You would get rolled in a debate :lol

[daboom1]

I just owned myself.

You hate to see it.

[Monostradamus]

It started on 4chan you dumb faggot :lol
Try again :lmao

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/29/matt-furie-on-life-after-pepe-the-frog-lead-by-example-mindviscosity

[ElNono]

I wonder why Abbott even agreed to the debate. He nothing to gain or lose in the debate because his victory is in the bag. If he destroyed Beto, nobody would care. If Beto destroyed him, nobody would care. I can think of a million better things to do with my time than an utterly pointless debate in an empty auditorium.

true, tbh, he could be training for the special olympics...

[Monostradamus]

You would get rolled in a debate :lol
FAKE NEWS!

[Monostradamus]

We’re almost at the point where debates will be literally this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGbhGc_-5NY

[Spurminator]

I wonder why Abbott even agreed to the debate. He nothing to gain or lose in the debate because his victory is in the bag. If he destroyed Beto, nobody would care. If Beto destroyed him, nobody would care. I can think of a million better things to do with my time than an utterly pointless debate in an empty auditorium.

There's no downside since he did it in an empty auditorium on a football Friday night broadcast on The CW. On the other hand, if he refuses to debate at all, that becomes the big news story. Probably wouldn't matter either way but at least this way he can say he showed up, and there will always be jizz buckets like Derp_Finale who think he had a good showing.

[Leetonidas]

Try again :lmao

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/29/matt-furie-on-life-after-pepe-the-frog-lead-by-example-mindviscosity

Proven wrong and then abandons his discourse with you :lol you hate to see it

[Leetonidas]

Also rofl at anyone thumping their chest over which "side" made memes first :lol how cringe can you be

[benefactor]

Also rofl at anyone thumping their chest over which "side" made memes first :lol how cringe can you be
Well it is Chris tbh

[Winehole23]

Texas Tribune/Military Times story on Greg Abbott using the Texas National Guard as an electoral prop and wrecking the lives of guardsmen who can't do shit about illegal immigration.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/01/texas-national-guard-border-operation-lone-star-abbott/involuntary long term activation, make work duty and slashing national guard benefits is taking a human toll. at least five suicides have been reported so far.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/10/26/texas-slashes-guard-benefits-while-spending-millions-to-expand-border-mission/

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[Blake]

You would get rolled in a debate :lol

:lmao

[daboom1]

It started on 4chan you dumb faggot :lol


By 2015, it had become one of the most popular memes used on 4chan and Tumblr.[3] Different types of Pepe include "Sad Frog", "Smug Frog", "Angry Pepe", "Feels Frog", and "You will never..." Frog. Since 2014, 'rare Pepes' have been posted on the 'meme market' as if they were trading cards.[4][5][6]

Originally an apolitical character, Pepe was appropriated from 2015 to 2016 onward as a symbol of the alt-right movement.[7][8][9] The Anti-Defamation League included Pepe in its hate symbol database in 2016, but said most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context.[10][11] Since then, Furie has expressed his dismay at Pepe being used as a hate symbol and has sued organizations for doing so.[12]

dumb faggot :lol

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1577433101239996416?s=20

[Winehole23]

what a mess



In the first challenge to reach the appellate court level — the subject of Wednesday’s hearing — Schulman argued that Operation Lone Star cases will never go to trial for migrants who remain out of the country, making the defense attorneys' concerns legally irrelevant. He pointed to state law that requires a defendant’s presence in court for trial to begin, effectively conceding that the cases of deported migrants would remain in limbo for the time being.


The point drew scrutiny from multiple justices, who wondered why Kinney County wouldn’t go ahead and dismiss cases that, by Schulman’s admission, cannot be prosecuted.


“If you can’t prosecute them, why are you filing charges?” Justice Patricia Alvarez asked.


“That’s a very good question. I cannot answer that,” Schulman responded. “Would I agree that there’s very little logic in this? Yes. But these dockets exist.”


Kinney County’s minimal court system, designed for the county’s population of about 3,100, was quickly overwhelmed by a deluge of cases (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Chaotic-rollout-of-Gov-Abbott-s-migrant-arrest-16517065.php) in the early months of Operation Lone Star. Undeterred, the county’s staunchly conservative leadership has embraced the governor’s border crackdown more than any other county, accounting for the vast majority of arrests and cases.


Schulman, who has formally served as an acting assistant county attorney for Kinney County, suggested that county prosecutors are pursuing charges against deported defendants because doing so bolsters the amount of state funding the county receives.


“The county will not be paid for the prosecution if it’s not on the Operation Lone Star docket,” Schulman said. “ ... The reason they are on a docket that’s styled as Operation Lone Star is because that’s how we have the money to prosecute all these cases.”


Alvarez, the appeals court justice, followed up: “So, it’s not the arrest. It’s the funding that Kinney County’s interested in when prosecuting these cases.”
“I would have to admit that, yes,” Schulman said.



Underscoring his point, Schulman criticized Abbott’s border initiative when asked by a justice if he agreed that “this whole process with Mr. Dominguez has a taste of inherently unfair issues.”


“Not representing Governor Abbott or the state of Texas in any way, I would agree,” Schulman responded. “Do I like this overall thing? No, I think it’s a waste of time and money. But that’s not the issue here.”


The case turns on the question of whether the Texas and U.S. constitutions prevent Kinney County — acting on behalf of the state — from prosecuting defendants who are removed from the country before their cases are resolved.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Prosecuting-attorney-calls-Operation-Lone-Star-17489347.php

[koriwhat]

I saw a sign in a yard the other day that got me laughing my ass off.. "MAGA, Mothers Against Greg Abbott"

That shit is so damn clever!

[boutons_deux]

Abbott admits he lied during debate,

acknowledges mayor's office did contact him about busing

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/5/2127102/-Abbott-admits-he-lied-during-debate-acknowledges-mayor-s-office-did-contact-him-about-busing

[Winehole23]

Texas GOP, despite ten's of $B's in surplus and 100% control of state gov't for 25 years, can't solve problems or deliver the goodies to Texans.

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[daboom1]

kSJb8Z4zUNU

Pathetic :lmao

[boutons_deux]

refugees sent to Martha's may be considered crime victims and be granted special visas.

Thanks, InSantis

[leemajors]

kSJb8Z4zUNU

Pathetic :lmao

Is one of them Tulsi?

[daboom1]

Is one of them Tulsi?

Tulsi wreaking havok within the Democrat Party, I LOVE IT :lol

[leemajors]

Tulsi wreaking havok within the Democrat Party, I LOVE IT :lol

No you dolt, you can't tell her from another minority :lol

[boutons_deux]

'Greg Abbott chose this':

Viral ad shows doctor taking child through childbirth process


https://www.expressnews.com/news/texas/article/Mothers-Against-Greg-Abbott-abortion-ad-17510058.php

[Dirks_Finale]

kSJb8Z4zUNU

Pathetic :lmao

TBH, most of us were voting blue at that age, though.

[boutons_deux]

Messages prove that Abbutt lied that he was not involved with dissantis kidnapping immigrants to Martha's vineyard

[Blake]

kSJb8Z4zUNU

Pathetic :lmao

You worship someone that wants to bleach his insides to kill germs

[daboom1]

TBH, most of us were voting blue at that age, though.

Probably true. Luckily for me I figured out their shenanigans sometime during my senior year in high school. I wasn't aware of the extent of their debauchery and lasciviousness until my mid 20's.

[pgardn]

TBH, most of us were voting blue at that age, though.

Most of US still do.

7-8 million strong when the red team puts up Donald fkn Trump a second time.
Do it again.

[Winehole23]

GOP Harris County Commissioners leaving $Ms on the table just to spite Houston and Harris County.

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[Winehole23]

Texas GOP sure does suck at governing.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Billions thrown away on a useless political stunt. It's basically state welfare for border counties.

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[Winehole23]

Republican Harris County commissioners Cagle and Ramsey are effectively defunding flood control, hospitals and police by playing hooky from the jobs they were elected to do.

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[SnakeBoy]

Gov. Greg Abbott was up 13 percentage points over his Democratic challenger Beto O'Rourke in the first days of early voting, according to a new poll by the University of Houston's Hobby School of Public Affairs.

Doing awesome

[Winehole23]

Gov. Greg Abbott was up 13 percentage points over his Democratic challenger Beto O'Rourke in the first days of early voting, according to a new poll by the University of Houston's Hobby School of Public Affairs.

Doing awesomehe's even more powerful than Rick Perry, in a sense. Abbott has extended the COVID emergency, reserving his own privilege to quash any attempt at disease prevention or public health by executive decree.

[SnakeBoy]

he's even more powerful than Rick Perry, in a sense. Abbott has extended the COVID emergency, reserving his own privilege to quash any attempt at disease prevention or public health by executive decree.

Yeah he's doing awesome

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah he's doing awesomeIs there a COVID emergency currently in your opinion?

[pgardn]

Yeah he's doing awesomely shitty. But Abbott is on the red team so it does not matter if my State sux.

[Blake]

Texas GOP sure does suck at governing.

Too bad the people of Texas as a whole don't get that. Their pastors tell them to vote GOP

[daboom1]

https://i.ibb.co/CV2sDq8/giphy-13.webp

[koriwhat]

FUCK BETO! Only you weak motherfuckers would try to vote in such a pathetic "dude" as that dress wearing female Robert O'Rourke the fake wannabe hispanic.

[ChumpDumper]

FUCK BETO! Only you weak motherfuckers would try to vote in such a pathetic "dude" as that dress wearing female Robert O'Rourke the fake wannabe hispanic."not a Republican"

[koriwhat]

CumDumpster, it's been great being away from this cesspool of fucking bitch males here on ST like yourself. I was out in LA living it up for the past 2 weeks without some bitchass trying to bug me like you do all the damn time. Then again, LA isn't what it was just 2 yrs ago; the vibe is way different and so are the people as well as the homeless who are way worse than before. Beautiful in the really rich areas and dogshit in Hollywood.

[ChumpDumper]

Blue state Cali.

[SnakeBoy]

"not a Republican"

"not a Beto fanboy"

[ChumpDumper]

"not a Beto fanboy"I'm a fan of anyone opposed to your thirst for authoritarianism.:tu

[pgardn]

FUCK BETO! Only you weak motherfuckers would try to vote in such a pathetic "dude" as that dress wearing female Robert O'Rourke the fake wannabe hispanic.

So you will vote for a guy who knowingly screws YOU in the ass on energy considerations.
Good for you. More self loathing and giving your money to his energy cronies.
I will vote for a guy who is gay as a carnival over someone who steals knowingly steals my money.

”Well he’s not a real dude man BY MY CRITERIA”
Yeah well the other guy is raping you up the sphincter…

Koriwhat on POLITICS

[Trainwreck2100]

CumDumpster, it's been great being away from this cesspool of fucking bitch males here on ST like yourself. I was out in LA living it up for the past 2 weeks without some bitchass trying to bug me like you do all the damn time. Then again, LA isn't what it was just 2 yrs ago; the vibe is way different and so are the people as well as the homeless who are way worse than before. Beautiful in the really rich areas and dogshit in Hollywood.

We're all paying for Abbott fucking Texans over by removing the market cap letting energy companies charge 9000a kwh why are you so cool with that?

[daboom1]

We're all paying for Abbott fucking Texans over by removing the market cap letting energy companies charge 9000a kwh why are you so cool with that?

Abbott fixed the grid :tu

[boutons_deux]

Too bad the people of Texas as a whole don't get that. Their pastors tell them to vote GOP

The repug voters of Texas like we plug voters across the country. Both social issues do not vote for their own self financial benefit nor do they vote for so-called good government

[Trainwreck2100]

Abbott fixed the grid :tu

We're praying in the billions, not the state, us the individual consumer or children will be paying this off, and you're fine with that.

[Spurminator]

We're praying in the billions, not the state, us the individual consumer or children will be paying this off, and you're fine with that.

Chris ain't paying for shit.

[Blake]

Abbott fixed the grid :tu

:lmao

[koriwhat]

So you will vote for a guy who knowingly screws YOU in the ass on energy considerations.
Good for you. More self loathing and giving your money to his energy cronies.
I will vote for a guy who is gay as a carnival over someone who steals knowingly steals my money.

”Well he’s not a real dude man BY MY CRITERIA”
Yeah well the other guy is raping you up the sphincter…

Koriwhat on POLITICS

Again, FUCK BETO! He's a career loser because he's never even had a career outside of leeching off his rich wife. Fuck that loser Robert O'Rourke! :tu

[koriwhat]

We're all paying for Abbott fucking Texans over by removing the market cap letting energy companies charge 9000a kwh why are you so cool with that?

I paid the same so? I know plenty who got screwed though. Good luck at the polls on the 8th and still, FUCK BETO!

[Blake]

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Lemme guess, he's screeching.

[Trainwreck2100]

I paid the same so? I know plenty who got screwed though. Good luck at the polls on the 8th and still, FUCK BETO!

he signed a bill making it so that fee is in your energy bill until you die or move you paid the same then because you're paying for it now

[daboom1]

he signed a bill making it so that fee is in your energy bill until you die or move you paid the same then because you're paying for it now

:tu

[koriwhat]

he signed a bill making it so that fee is in your energy bill until you die or move you paid the same then because you're paying for it now

Anyone but ButtfuckBeto! :tu

[pgardn]

Anyone but ButtfuckBeto! :tu

“I wanna be buttfucked by Abbott”

[koriwhat]

“I wanna be buttfucked by Abbott”

Boohoo go fluff Beta O'Rourke some more buddy. :tu

[pgardn]

Boohoo go fluff Beta O'Rourke some more buddy. :tu


Oh good god...
You dont care about issues.
Sorry.
Your issue with Beto is that he is a Beta and not a man.
Whatever a man is in your world. One thing for sure, a man cant possibly be on the blue team.

[koriwhat]

Oh good god...
You dont care about issues.
Sorry.
Your issue with Beto is that he is a Beta and not a man.
Whatever a man is in your world. One thing for sure, a man cant possibly be on the blue team.

Nah my issue with him is how he flipflops depending on who's listening to his bullshit. You obviously see that as a great attribute to that beta but I consider it a huge flaw in character.

I also don't give a fuck what some dude has to say who's never held a job and mooches off those around him like his rich wife.

The dude is a career loser and lets hope he loses some more come tomorrow!

You can cry all you'd like bro and come here with your, "What makes a man?", argument all you'd like but at the end of the day we all know that fuck face Beto ain't a man nor is he hispanic.

[pgardn]

Nah my issue with him is how he flipflops depending on who's listening to his bullshit. You obviously see that as a great attribute to that beta but I consider it a huge flaw in character.

I also don't give a fuck what some dude has to say who's never held a job and mooches off those around him like his rich wife.

The dude is a career loser and lets hope he loses some more come tomorrow!

You can cry all you'd like bro and come here with your, "What makes a man?", argument all you'd like but at the end of the day we all know that fuck face Beto ain't a man nor is he hispanic.

Its exactly what I did with Trump.
Anyone else in 2020, and it worked.
Its not like I wanted a man older than Trump take office, I wanted Trump the fk out. He had shown he was a lying sack of shit and all about himself.

Same with Abbott. Anyone else. He dances to Dan Patrick and a total crook of an attorney general, Ken Paxson.
Abbott, imo, is not as bad as theses two colleagues but he is the governor. And where our energy for this State stands is pure stupidity.
Abbott wont mention this, but we have done a terrific job with wind power. But, not being able to tap into other States grids just to show we can kill people during bad weather because we are TEXAS, pure stupidity.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1592553350129909762?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1592553350129909762?s=20

:rollin

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1592553350129909762?s=20

:lmao:lmao:lmao

The “Invasion Clause” of the U.S Constitution requires that the United States “shall protect each [State] against Invasion.” U.S. Const. art. IV, § 4. In the 1990s, states and counties, including Arizona, sued the federal government under the Invasion Clause. They argued that out-of-control levels of illegal immigration constituted an “invasion” by an influx of unauthorized immigrants that triggered the federal government’s duty to protect the states. Courts rejected these claims, holding that addressing them would require making “non-judicial policy decision[s].” E.g., California v. United States, 104 F.3d 1086, 1090-91 (9th Cir. 1997); see also Padavan v. United States, 82 F.3d 23, 28 (2d Cir. 1996) (“[T]he plaintiffs’ Invasion Clause claim is nonjusticiable. The protection of the states from ‘invasion’ involves matters of foreign policy and defense, which are issues that the courts have been reluctant to consider.”)

[Winehole23]

"gun boats to stop the refugee flotilla"

[daboom1]

:rollin

BeepBumper doesn't give a fuck about dead border patrol and fentanyl flooding our country that looks like candy.

[ChumpDumper]

BeepBumper doesn't give a fuck about dead border patrol and fentanyl flooding our country that looks like candy.How many kids died from Halloween fentanyl this year, Qhris?

[leemajors]

More stunts, cool. I was pretty sure only the federal gov could make binding agreements with other nations though?

[ChumpDumper]

More stunts, cool.He's going to place 5th in the two-man presidential primary.

[Dirks_Finale]

"Beto" :lol

Imagine getting bodied by a guy in a wheel chair.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1598349794849837057?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1598349794849837057?s=20

:lol Abbott and DeSantis in a canceling contest.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1598349794849837057?s=20

:lol they manage $10 trillion in assets... $2 billion is basically 0.06%

[Winehole23]

Big win for Abbott, but no surprise -- the state always wins at the CCC.


Curipoma attended the hearing. He now lives in the Midland area looking for work in the oil industry and working on his dissertation while awaiting his federal asylum hearing.https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/07/texas-migrant-arrests-court-criminal-appeals/

[Winehole23]

DAY 1000 OF COVID-19 DEMOCRAT TYRANNY


In Texas, the disaster declaration gives Abbott’s executive orders — normally nonbinding — the weight of law.

Using them, he has the ability to suspend any regulatory statute or state agency rule without legislative approval, transfer money between agencies without legislative oversight, commandeer private property and use state and local government resources, evacuate populations and restrict the movement of the people, among other things.

In most states where the proclamations are still active, including Texas, Colorado, Illinois and Delaware, they are set to expire in December unless state leaders renew them.


Under the public health disaster order, Abbott has made several unilateral decisions in response to the pandemic.


He extended the length of early voting in 2020 to help thin out Election Day crowds. He enacted mask mandates; directed state agencies to offer work-from-home options to employees; closed bars, gyms, nail salons and other businesses during one of the early surges; banned elective surgeries; limited long-term care visits; and capped venue occupancy until later removing those limits and banning cities from enacting them.https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/08/texas-public-health-disaster-covid-greg-abbott/

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1602168740720046081?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1602168740720046081?s=20:lol how long has this guy been governor?

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1602168740720046081?s=20

How about five years for hiring illegals?

[daboom1]

How about five years for hiring illegals?

overkill

[Winehole23]

Why did Gov. Abbott let all those migrants in? Thought he was on top of that.

[ChumpDumper]

overkill

Why is it overkill?

[baseline bum]

Why is it overkill?

Because exploiting illegals working for low wages is as American as apple pie and mass shootings.

[ChumpDumper]

Because exploiting illegals working for low wages is as American as apple pie and mass shootings.

True, lots of white Republican men would go to prison. Qhris can't have that.

[daboom1]

Because exploiting illegals working for low wages is as American as apple pie and mass shootings.

That's rather macabre, but 5 years in jail would be like a 3rd strike offense for something like that.

[ElNono]

Because exploiting illegals working for low wages is as American as apple pie and mass shootings.

Qhris hates America...

[Ef-man]

True, lots of white Republican men would go to prison. Qhris can't have that.

Worse, qchrisy-style republicans are upset after realizing they lost job opportunities to illegals, hate to see it.

[Winehole23]

This is the report Abbott held back til after the election. The Texas abortion ban is likely making it worse.

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[Winehole23]

Requiring pregnant women to be actually dying before giving them the medical care they need will result in needless deaths. Just a matter of time.

[Winehole23]

hell's getting hotter

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[boutons_deux]

Requiring pregnant women to be actually dying before giving them the medical care they need will result in needless deaths. Just a matter of time.

even if saved from near death, near death probably lots of damage, some permanent, and/or long rehab, both physical and mental.

Damaged women is nothing but Christ's love. :lol

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1613561020974260224?t

[benefactor]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1613561020974260224?t
You really want to die on this hill?

[spurraider21]

CA had a 100 billion surplus the year before... it can be cyclical

CA also regularly contributes to a number of "rainy day" budget reserves which at this point are at something like 30-35 billion altogether

newsom not considering tapping into those at this time

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1613561020974260224?t

Overtaxed.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1613561020974260224?t


CA had a 100 billion surplus the year before... it can be cyclical

CA also regularly contributes to a number of "rainy day" budget reserves which at this point are at something like 30-35 billion altogether

newsom not considering tapping into those at this time

:lmao stop, he's already dead

[Winehole23]

DAY 1000 OF COVID-19 DEMOCRAT TYRANNY



https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/08/texas-public-health-disaster-covid-greg-abbott/Republicans have controlled this state since 1994, isn't it long enough yet?

[Winehole23]

cracking down on sex trafficking

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/bexar-county-tx-sex-trafficking-case-plea-deals/

[Winehole23]

positioning for 2024


The poll also found Gov. Greg Abbott (https://www.texastribune.org/directory/greg-abbott/)’s approval at 46%, while 48% disapprove of Abbott’s job performance. President Joe Biden had a lower approval rating — 40% — while 55% disapproved of his performance.https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/27/texas-lyceum-poll-economy-democracy/

[Adam Lambert]

positioning for 2024

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/27/texas-lyceum-poll-economy-democracy/

From the article - Meanwhile, 21% said Texas’ economy is doing better than the rest of the country.


That's got to sting Abbott and his PR/social team volunteers.

[Winehole23]

Abbott's State of the State address is a private event this year. Heretofore it has been delivered during a joint session of the legislature.

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[Winehole23]

But it will be on TV

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-nexstar-media-inc-announce-live-statewide-telecast-of-2023-state-of-the-state-address

[Blake]

It'll be on TV but no press allowed?

He scared

[Winehole23]

TX GOP is screwing itself in the long run with this approach.

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[Blake]

TX GOP is screwing itself in the long run with this approach.

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wE gOttA keeP vOteS AwaY frOm hipPiE cOLLegE liBerAls

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Driving around Texas rural town centers and seeing a Dollar General and a bunch of empty brick shopping centers is depressing. That is the legacy of Abbot's tenure.

[boutons_deux]

Abbutt says he is happy to snub Biden's invitation to Governors to visit the White House

[Blake]

Driving around Texas rural town centers and seeing a Dollar General and a bunch of empty brick shopping centers is depressing. That is the legacy of Abbot's tenure.

I'll remember him more for the power fuckup of 2021

[Winehole23]

“I’m speaking to you from the manufacturing floor of Noveon,” Abbott pointed out (https://www.kxan.com/video/gov-greg-abbott-gives-2023-state-of-the-state-address/8398808/) near the top of his remarks, as the televised broadcast cut to b-roll of Abbott getting a tour of the company’s quite unremarkable-looking facility. The governor continued to wax rhapsodic about the specific company: “With the help of businesses like Noveon, Texas is number one in the United States for the most new jobs.”https://www.texasobserver.org/greg-abbotts-state-of-the-state-was-a-weird-alarming-infomercial/

[Winehole23]

Easy question, Christian nationalism motivates the GOP's shrinking base.


Who would school vouchers really benefit?

Governor Greg Abbott is helping to answer that question, not so much through his rhetoric, which is relentlessly on-message (“educational freedom,” “parental rights,” “school choice”) as through his actions. Over the last few months, the governor has been taking his case for school vouchers on the road, traveling around the state to talk up the benefits of education savings accounts, the wonky name for a program that would offer taxpayer dollars to parents who enroll their kids in private schools.

But it’s impossible not to notice that Abbott has only visited expensive private Christian institutions—all Protestant—in front of friendly audiences of parents who have opted out of public education. Of the seven schools the governor has visited on his “Parent Empowerment Tour,” not a single one has been a public school or a secular private school or a religious school affiliated with Catholicism, Islam, or Judaism. Not even a Montessori. If the goal was to reassure critics that Abbott’s embrace of vouchers wasn’t a recipe for draining the public school system while subsidizing the children of wealthy Christian conservatives in private schools of their choice, well, none of those critics were around to hear it. The governor was quite literally preaching to the choir.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/greg-abbott-school-vouchers-tour/

[Winehole23]

But the Senate proposal faces another obstacle: the matter of using taxpayer dollars to fund religious education. Abbott has fumed about “indoctrination” in public schools, reflecting relatively widespread unease among many Republicans about books and curriculum that attempt to reflect a pluralistic society that has evolved rapidly on issues of race, sexual orientation, and gender. Indoctrination is precisely what many parochial schools do, as a central part of their mission. If you want your child to be taught that the Bible is the “infallible, inerrant, and inspired Word of God”—a Brazos Christian doctrine—then a Christian school is a great fit.


Vouchers would erode, if not obliterate, a cornerstone of Texas’s constitutionally mandated system of public education. The Texas Constitution prohibits public funds from being spent “for the benefit of any sect, or religious society, theological or religious seminary.” GOP lawmakers have filed bills in both the Texas House and the Senate to simply repeal (https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/pdf/SJ00076I.pdf#navpanes=0) this part of the 1876 Constitution, a tacit acknowledgement that vouchers would mingle church with state in an unprecedented way.

[Winehole23]

There’s one other reason Abbott is going from Christian school to Christian school, like a popular praise band on a regional tour: he needs their help. Vouchers remain a hard sell in the Legislature (https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/school-vouchers-texas-parental-control-abbott/). Proponents need a good chunk of Republicans representing rural districts, where public schools are often the bedrock of communities, and private schools are scarce, to back off their historic opposition.

[boutons_deux]

If this ChristoFascist shit gets passed, TX Repugs will starve public schools, but hosing every Christian indoctrination madrasa with $8000/student

[Winehole23]

Art 1 - Sec 7


Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTSSection 7 - APPROPRIATIONS FOR SECTARIAN PURPOSES
No money shall be appropriated, or drawn from the Treasury for the benefit of any sect, or religious society, theological or religious seminary; nor shall property belonging to the State be appropriated for any such purposes.

https://law.justia.com/constitution/texas/sections/cn000100-000700.html

[Winehole23]

Abbott has hinted that he prefers a so-called “universal” program, which would offer ESAs to all parents, regardless of whether their children are already enrolled in private school. Last year, Arizona rolled out a first-in-the-nation universal voucher program; early results predictably showed that the vast majority of benefits were set to flow to wealthy private-school kids. Of the nearly 6,500 children who applied for vouchers—typically about $7,000 per student—75 percent (https://tucson.com/news/local/education/most-applying-for-arizona-vouchers-already-go-to-private-schools/article_34d75b9a-2968-11ed-812b-f7dad22200b5.html) were already enrolled in private institutions.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1636404039490445313?t

[leemajors]

Quris gladhanded yet again

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1636404039490445313?t

He ain't doing shit about the border either

[Winehole23]

He ain't doing shit about the border eitherHe plans to, though.


House Speaker Dade Phelan announced his final package of priority legislation centered on border security late Friday, headlined by House Bill 20 (https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/pdf/HB00020I.pdf#navpanes=0), a measure by state Representative Matt Schaefer, a right-wing Republican from Tyler, that would create a state “Border Protection Unit” with officers who are empowered to “arrest, detain, and deter individuals crossing the border illegally including with the use of non-deadly force.”


Under this bill, officers would be allowed to repel and return migrants back to Mexico or arrest individuals seen crossing the border between ports of entry, which would become a state felony that could carry harsh prison sentences under the bill. Schaefer’s legislation would codify and expand prior orders by Governor Greg Abbott—like granting (https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/07/texas-greg-abbott-state-police-border/) National Guard soldiers the power to detain migrants—that have blatantly tested the limits of state authority.


The special unit, to be housed within the Texas Department of Public Safety and run by a gubernatorial appointee, could hire a militia-style cadre of officers empowered to enforce these laws—with immunity from any civil or criminal liability. The bill also states that the unit could employ private citizens “to participate in unit operations and functions” who could be deputized with arresting authority if “trained and specifically authorized by the governor.”

https://www.texasobserver.org/border-militia-bill-reveals-texas-gops-scheme-to-expand-state-enforcement-powers/

[ElNono]

He plans to, though.

https://www.texasobserver.org/border-militia-bill-reveals-texas-gops-scheme-to-expand-state-enforcement-powers/

I don't see how that's remotely legal and they know it. Right now they have to pretend people usurped somebody's property to arrest.

[Winehole23]

I don't see how that's remotely legal and they know it. Right now they have to pretend people usurped somebody's property to arrest.there are a lot of laws being passed right now that aren't remotely legal, but the people who get to say what the law is might still uphold them, and already have. they just make shit up for political expedience.

[Winehole23]

For example, the fake historicism behind Dobbs basically holds that people who haven't had rights all along don't deserve them, or at least, that no good legal basis exists for them having rights.

[Winehole23]

Another example, the "major questions" doctrine SCOTUS is using to dismantle the administrative state.

[ElNono]

there are a lot of laws being passed right now that aren't remotely legal, but the people who get to say what the law is might still uphold them, and already have. they just make shit up for political expedience.

It's all fun and games until they get sued their asses off. Then the settlement ends up getting paid by the State...

[ElNono]

For example, the fake historicism behind Dobbs basically holds that people who haven't had rights all along don't deserve them, or at least, that no good legal basis exists for them having rights.

But when it comes to immigration enforcement, Congress specifically granted that power to the federal government, and it will take Congress to roll that back.

The SCOTUS knows which fights it can pick, and they're certainly not in the business to overrule Congress.

[Winehole23]

But when it comes to immigration enforcement, Congress specifically granted that power to the federal government, and it will take Congress to roll that back.

The SCOTUS knows which fights it can pick, and they're certainly not in the business to overrule Congress.you said something similar about Dobbs, tbh

[ElNono]

you said something similar about Dobbs, tbh

Dobbs didn't involve a law passed by Congress.

[Winehole23]

Dobbs didn't involve a law passed by Congress.true, but they made shit up to get around settled law, which was my point. will to power trumps legality more and more.

[ElNono]

true, but they made shit up to get around settled law, which was my point. will to power trumps legality more and more.

Sure, but point remains that SCOTUS is largely deferential to Congress' intent unless something is plainly unconstitutional. There's nothing in the Constitution about immigration.

This is why establishing federal access and legality to abortion via Congress would be the correct path to take in order to make Dobbs moot.

[Winehole23]

Sure, but point remains that SCOTUS is largely deferential to Congress' intent unless something is plainly unconstitutional. There's nothing in the Constitution about immigration.

This is why establishing federal access and legality to abortion via Congress would be the correct path to take in order to make Dobbs moot.I quite agree. Pity the Dems couldn't lock in before the 2022 midterms.

[ElNono]

I quite agree. Pity the Dems couldn't lock in before the 2022 midterms.

Somewhat related to your point...

The Federalist Society Isn’t Quite Sure About Democracy Anymore

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/17/federalist-society-democracy-opinion-00087270

[Winehole23]

Somewhat related to your point...

The Federalist Society Isn’t Quite Sure About Democracy Anymore

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/17/federalist-society-democracy-opinion-00087270

Saw that. Conservatives expect the courts to deliver the political goods and will go apeshit of they don't.

[boutons_deux]

what piece of shit, actually a total bag of shit

“My commitment to public education has existed throughout my tenure as your governor,” Abbott said in touting the amount of state funding that has increased for public schools since he took office.

But part 2 of his speeches lays out how public schools have gone astray with teachers letting liberal philosophies pervade lesson plans.

“Our children are being taught a radical woke agenda,” :lol

Abbott said to a chorus boos at the rally in Austin.

“Our schools are for education, not indoctrination.” :lol

-- Express-News email

[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

1643255728252104704
:lol DPS

[Winehole23]

:lol DPSDallas already put shut to that shit, Austin should get a clue.

[Winehole23]

AFAIK, the COVID emergency in Texas is still a thing. Abbott hasn't called if off yet, probably because he still needs emergency powers to keep funding potemkin enforcement on the border.

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

What state policing in Austin looks like so far.

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Background:


Complaints by border county residents about more frequent traffic stops are not new. In 2015 (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2015/03/27/dps-border-surge-leaves-the-rest-of-texas-just-a-tad-bit-less-safe/) and 2016, The Dallas Morning News reported on how rotating state troopers into border regions was reducing traffic enforcement elsewhere and irritating border residents.

Over a 22-month period after DPS surged traffic enforcement, The News found more than 600 people in Starr and Hidalgo counties were stopped 10 or more times. (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2016/11/22/after-2-years-and-800m-texas-border-boost-has-one-solid-outcome-more-traffic-tickets/) More than 300 were stopped at least 20 times. One person was pulled over 52 times in that time period.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/09/08/texas-dps-denies-white-nationalist-ties-racial-profiling-of-drivers-near-mexico-border/

[Winehole23]

Warehousing juveniles in adult prisons to alleviate staffing shortages in juvie.

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[Winehole23]

a bad penny always turns up

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[Winehole23]

commonsense, bipartisan gun law passes, Gov. Abbott ducks.


Texas lawmakers have closed a loophole in state law that allowed people who had serious mental health issues as juveniles to legally purchase firearms.

On Wednesday, the Texas House of Representatives voted 116-28 in favor of a bill that requires courts to report involuntary mental health hospitalizations of juveniles age 16 and older for inclusion in the federal gun background check system. The bill, which had already received unanimous support in the Senate, comes nearly a year after a ProPublica and Texas Tribune investigation revealed a gap in the law that required such reporting for adults but not for juveniles (https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-guns-background-checks-juvenile).

The passage of the bipartisan measure (https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB728), authored by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman (https://www.texastribune.org/directory/joan-huffman/), offers a rare example of gun-related legislation that has cleared the Texas Legislature since last year’s school shooting in Uvalde. It is now headed to Gov. Greg Abbott’s desk. Huffman could not be reached for comment. A spokesperson for Abbott did not immediately respond to an inquiry about whether he supports the bill. https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-closes-gun-background-check-loophole

[ElNono]

Texas Joins States Charging High Fees to Register an EV

"Driving an electric vehicle in Texas is soon to become more expensive (https://gizmodo.com/greg-abbott-signs-texas-electric-vehicle-tax-1850455335)," reports Gizmodo: Governor Greg Abbott signed a law (SB 505 (https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB505)) on May 13 instituting new fees for registering and owning EVs in the state. Under the bill, electric car owners will have to pay $400 upon registering their vehicle. Then, every subsequent year, EV drivers will have to shell out an additional $200. Both of those fees are on top of the cost of the standard annual registration (https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/files/body-files/FeeChart_1C.pdf) renewal fees, which are $50.75 each year for most passenger cars and trucks.

At least 32 states currently have special electric vehicle registration fees, according to data from (https://www.ncsl.org/energy/special-fees-on-plug-in-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles) the National Conference of State Legislatures. These range from $50 in places like Colorado, Hawaii, and South Dakota to $274 (starting in 2028) in a recently passed (https://www.tn.gov/governor/news/2023/4/17/gov--lee-signs-landmark-transportation-modernization-act-into-law-.html) piece of Tennessee legislation (https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB0273)...

Like many other states that have instituted EV fees, the reasoning behind the Lone Star State's new law is that electric car drivers don't buy gas. Taxes at the fuel pump are the primary way that most states, Texas included (https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/fin/funding-brochure-2022.pdf), amass funds for road construction, maintenance, and other driving-related infrastructure.
The bill's author told a local news station (https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/texans-could-pay-200-annual-fee-to-drive-electric-vehicles/) that "with the growing use of EVs, the revenue from the fuel tax is decreasing, which diminishes our ability to fund road improvements for all drivers."

But Gizmodo notes that Texas's gas tax "is among the lowest (https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/state-motor-fuels-tax-rates) in the country, at just $0.20 per gallon." (And the average car uses less than 500 gallons a year (https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/blog/2022/05/26/top-numbers-driving-americas-gasoline-demand), according to the American Petroleum Institute.)

[Adam Lambert]

Texas Joins States Charging High Fees to Register an EV

"Driving an electric vehicle in Texas is soon to become more expensive (https://gizmodo.com/greg-abbott-signs-texas-electric-vehicle-tax-1850455335)," reports Gizmodo: Governor Greg Abbott signed a law (SB 505 (https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB505)) on May 13 instituting new fees for registering and owning EVs in the state. Under the bill, electric car owners will have to pay $400 upon registering their vehicle. Then, every subsequent year, EV drivers will have to shell out an additional $200. Both of those fees are on top of the cost of the standard annual registration (https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/files/body-files/FeeChart_1C.pdf) renewal fees, which are $50.75 each year for most passenger cars and trucks.

At least 32 states currently have special electric vehicle registration fees, according to data from (https://www.ncsl.org/energy/special-fees-on-plug-in-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles) the National Conference of State Legislatures. These range from $50 in places like Colorado, Hawaii, and South Dakota to $274 (starting in 2028) in a recently passed (https://www.tn.gov/governor/news/2023/4/17/gov--lee-signs-landmark-transportation-modernization-act-into-law-.html) piece of Tennessee legislation (https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB0273)...

Like many other states that have instituted EV fees, the reasoning behind the Lone Star State's new law is that electric car drivers don't buy gas. Taxes at the fuel pump are the primary way that most states, Texas included (https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/fin/funding-brochure-2022.pdf), amass funds for road construction, maintenance, and other driving-related infrastructure.
The bill's author told a local news station (https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/texans-could-pay-200-annual-fee-to-drive-electric-vehicles/) that "with the growing use of EVs, the revenue from the fuel tax is decreasing, which diminishes our ability to fund road improvements for all drivers."

But Gizmodo notes that Texas's gas tax "is among the lowest (https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/state-motor-fuels-tax-rates) in the country, at just $0.20 per gallon." (And the average car uses less than 500 gallons a year (https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/blog/2022/05/26/top-numbers-driving-americas-gasoline-demand), according to the American Petroleum Institute.)

Big government Republicans and their punitive taxation, nothing new here.

[Winehole23]

Fees and fines here, god forbid taxes should ever be raised, but point taken.

[ElNono]

If you have to pay it every year, it's effectively a tax.

[SnakeBoy]

Making EV owners pay their fair share :tu

Wheels

[ElNono]

Taxes good now :lmao

[Adam Lambert]

I do agree with taxing EV drivers. They use the same roads as everyone else. I'd only change it to be based on consumption rather than a fixed rate. Charge it at the charging stations.

[Winehole23]

Texas paying a pretty penny to settle immigrants closer to social assistance and the legal path to residency, tbh.


In the statement, Newsom said that he and Attorney General Rob Bonta met with more than a dozen migrants and learned that they were taken from Texas to New Mexico and then flown to Sacramento on a private jet.


"We are working closely with the Mayor's office, along with local and nonprofit partners to ensure the people who have arrived are treated with respect and dignity, and get to their intended destination as they pursue their immigration cases," Newsom's statement read.https://www.ksbw.com/article/gov-newsom-s-office-investigates-after-migrants-from-texas-are-left-in-front-of-sacramento-church-without-warning/44084655#

[Blake]

Making EV owners pay their fair share :tu

Wheels

Lol if he was saving them from taxes you'd be bolding him just the same to pwn teh libs

[SnakeBoy]

Lol if he was saving them from taxes you'd be bolding him just the same to pwn teh libs

Nope. EV owners need to help pay for the roads the same as everyone else.

[Ef-man]

Nope. EV owners need to help pay for the roads the same as everyone else.

How about that, snacks supporting Socialism!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Blake]

Nope. EV owners need to help pay for the roads the same as everyone else.

They're not paying the same, they'll be paying more. If I went conspiracy it would easily seem like he's batting for team oil.

If they want to do it right, they should charge everyone by mileage between inspections

[Ef-man]

They're not paying the same, they'll be paying more. If I went conspiracy it would easily seem like he's batting for team oil.

If they want to do it right, they should charge everyone by mileage between inspections

What about bicyclists and runners not paying a damn thing for roads and sidewalks!!!!

Bastards can’t remain on entitlement programs forever, make them pay their fair share.

[Winehole23]

Texas paying a pretty penny to settle immigrants closer to social assistance and the legal path to residency, tbh.

https://www.ksbw.com/article/gov-newsom-s-office-investigates-after-migrants-from-texas-are-left-in-front-of-sacramento-church-without-warning/44084655#my bad, this was another DeSantis stunt.

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[SnakeBoy]

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Build the floating wall! Build the floating wall! Build the floating wall! Build the floating wall! Build that floating wall!

[ChumpDumper]

The floating barrier will span 1,000 feet — covering a tiny fraction of the 1,254 miles the river spans along the Texas-Mexico border.

:lol

Did he come out of hiding long enough to comment on Paxton?

[Ef-man]

The floating barrier will span 1,000 feet — covering a tiny fraction of the 1,254 miles the river spans along the Texas-Mexico border.

:lol

Did he come out of hiding long enough to comment on Paxton?

Holy shit! 1,000 feet for $1M? That is not even 1/5 of a mile!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

Bad day for the groomers

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[ChumpDumper]

Bad day for the groomersThey're getting rid of your bibles.:tu

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

Bad day for the groomers

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So no more Bibles?

[Blake]

They're getting rid of your bibles.:tu

Lol beat me to it

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1669442819897937935?t

Abbott

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1669442819897937935?t

Abbott

Big fan of women's sports, Qhris?

Softball booster?

Rhythmic gymnastics?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Big fan of women's sports, Qhris?

Softball booster?

Rhythmic gymnastics?

You read like them when they claim "what are you doing for the climate" or "why do you care."

It's a shit argument. There is a biological reality with gene expression for all that our gender norms are arbitrary stupidity.

[ChumpDumper]

You read like them when they claim "what are you doing for the climate" or "why do you care."I am asking him why does he care, genius.:lol

[daboom1]

Why do I care about women?

Why don't you care about women BeepBumper?

[Blake]

Why do I care about women?

Why don't you care about women BeepBumper?

Women was the adjective not the noun.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am asking him why does he care, genius.:lol

Which is exactly what they do. Why do you care? You obviously do not because if you did you would do more.

It's obvious, dimwit.

[Trainwreck2100]

That shit polls at like 70% so he's doing just fine on thatone

[Blake]

That shit polls at like 70% so he's doing just fine on thatone

For furthering his political look at me aspirations? The right wing evangelicals that got him into office in the first place gobble this shit up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

daboom1 I have no idea why you are liking that. You are the poster child for using that idiotic argument.

[Blake]

Which is exactly what they do. Why do you care? You obviously do not because if you did you would do more.

It's obvious, dimwit.

Fuzzy leaving the paint wide open....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy leaving the paint wide open....

Sorry but using how much someone cares or doesn't care about something as the basis for best political outcomes is mindnumbingly stupid.

I do like you claiming victory with no leg to stand on though.

[ChumpDumper]

Which is exactly what they do. Why do you care? You obviously do not because if you did you would do more.

It's obvious, dimwit.I actually do want to know why they care about women's sports all the sudden.

It isn't obvious.

Ask your therapist how this is possible.

[Winehole23]

I actually do want to know why they care about women's sports all the sudden.

It isn't obvious.

Ask your therapist how this is possible.not just women's sports, the soppy-stern wailing and blubbering over unfairness in girls sports stands out.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I actually do want to know why they care about women's sports all the sudden.

It isn't obvious.

Ask your therapist how this is possible.

What you care about regarding him is also meaningless in political context. I do like how you ask leading questions that you think you already know the answer to.

I can always tell you have nothing substantive when you go DMC and make it all about the random person as opposed to the objective political reality. You claim to dump those types but you are just the same.

There remains an objective reality in regards to gene expression. While you build strawmen to beat up it still continues on.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

not just women's sports, the soppy-stern wailing and blubbering over unfairness in girls sports stands out.

Are you capable of letting go off the emotion and addressing the reality of gene expression?

[Adam Lambert]

Lots of conservative voters have daughters who play sports, this is not an out-of-the-blue interest for them, imo.

Excessive outrage over something with very little likely relevance or impact to their daughters? Absolutely. But it's too fringe and inconsequential an issue for liberals to fall on the sword over it. Focus on broader trans rights and stop allowing conservatives to dictate the terms of the discussion to an arena where they have sympathy.

Care less about having the purest moral high ground and care more about winning.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you capable of letting go off the emotion and addressing the reality of gene expression?

You care about gene expression. I'm talking about sports.

[ChumpDumper]

Lots of conservative voters have daughters who play sports, this is not an out-of-the-blue interest for them, imo.

Excessive outrage over something with very little likely relevance or impact to their daughters? Absolutely. But it's too fringe and inconsequential an issue for liberals to fall on the sword over it. Focus on broader trans rights and stop allowing conservatives to dictate the terms of the discussion to an arena where they have sympathy.

Care less about having the purest moral high ground and care more about winning.

Sure.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lots of conservative voters have daughters who play sports, this is not an out-of-the-blue interest for them, imo.

Excessive outrage over something with very little likely relevance or impact to their daughters? Absolutely. But it's too fringe and inconsequential an issue for liberals to fall on the sword over it. Focus on broader trans rights and stop allowing conservatives to dictate the terms of the discussion to an arena where they have sympathy.

Care less about having the purest moral high ground and care more about winning.

That is my point exactly. Gene expression is a biological reality regardless of what one considers oneself.

All the arbitrary human constructs of what a man or woman are supposed to be are the problem.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You care about gene expression. I'm talking about sports.

Now you're dissembling like an idiot. Pass on your OCD round and round.

[Winehole23]

Lots of conservative voters have daughters who play sports, this is not an out-of-the-blue interest for them, imo.

Excessive outrage over something with very little likely relevance or impact to their daughters? Absolutely. But it's too fringe and inconsequential an issue for liberals to fall on the sword over it. Focus on broader trans rights and stop allowing conservatives to dictate the terms of the discussion to an arena where they have sympathy.

Care less about having the purest moral high ground and care more about winning."Bad optics on an unpopular, electorally noncrucial issue. Better to leave the field to right wing assholes and racist sore losers who torment coaches, parents and little girls; the slight chance of being overtaken at the polls by antigay backlash is worth remaining out of the controversy."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"Bad optics on an unpopular, electorally noncrucial issue. Better to leave the field to right wing assholes and racist sore losers who torment coaches, parents and little girls; the slight chance of being overtaken at the polls by antigay backlash is worth remaining out of the controversy."

Does having a Y chromosome lead to increase muscle and bone growth over someone who does not?

[Adam Lambert]

"Bad optics on an unpopular, electorally noncrucial issue. Better to leave the field to right wing assholes and racist sore losers who torment coaches, parents and little girls; the slight chance of being overtaken at the polls by antigay backlash is worth remaining out of the controversy."

You bet it's worth it. I don't understand why you consistently care more about having the morally righteous side of an argument than actually winning elections so that morally unrighteous laws can be stopped.

Parents of trans kids have had their rights stripped by Republican state legislatures over the past year, I care far more about the rights of hundreds (thousands?) of Texas parents to give care to their trans kids at the recommendation of their doctor than I do one or two of those kids being allowed to play sports, especially when there are innumerable other school activities to participate in: Band, theater, math club, debate, cheer, etc.

And you're being extremely tone deaf about the people who oppose trans girls competing in girls sports. They're not all homophobes. That kind of shit loses elections too.

[Blake]

What you care about regarding him is also meaningless in political context. I do like how you ask leading questions that you think you already know the answer to.

I can always tell you have nothing substantive when you go DMC and make it all about the random person as opposed to the objective political reality. You claim to dump those types but you are just the same.

There remains an objective reality in regards to gene expression. While you build strawmen to beat up it still continues on.

Could this line be any richer :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Now you're dissembling like an idiot. Pass on your OCD round and round.

:lol no

People can have differing viewpoints. You're getting pissy because I don't ascribe to your forced orthodoxy.

[Blake]

Lots of conservative voters have daughters who play sports, this is not an out-of-the-blue interest for them, imo.

Excessive outrage over something with very little likely relevance or impact to their daughters? Absolutely. But it's too fringe and inconsequential an issue for liberals to fall on the sword over it. Focus on broader trans rights and stop allowing conservatives to dictate the terms of the discussion to an arena where they have sympathy.

Care less about having the purest moral high ground and care more about winning.

Winning where? The Texas governor? You're gonna have to give a lot more moral ground to get that. Next up: library drag queens

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol no

People can have differing viewpoints. You're getting pissy because I don't ascribe to your forced orthodoxy.

Objective reality is what I am talking about. The reality of gene expression despite gender identity and how that affects competitive balance. This has objective real world outcomes in terms of kinesiology. That is not a differing viewpoint unless you are delusional.

What I take issue with is you instead making about your people's viewpoints specifically how much they care.

But we both know you were playing stupid as if you were not aware of how gene expression applies to try and start up your idiotic OCD nonsense.

[Blake]

Objective reality is what I am talking about. The reality of gene expression despite gender identity and how that affects competitive balance. This has objective real world outcomes in terms of kinesiology. That is not a differing viewpoint unless you are delusional.

What I take issue with is you instead making about your people's viewpoints specifically how much they care.

But we both know you were playing stupid as if you were not aware of how gene expression applies to try and start up your idiotic OCD nonsense.

Your objective reality is hilariously subjective

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your objective reality is hilariously subjective

Having a Y chromosome leads to additional muscle and bone mass over those those that do not is subjective? The studies on the muscle atrophy from transition are subjective?

Get over me, dude.

[ChumpDumper]

Objective reality is what I am talking about. The reality of gene expression despite gender identity and how that affects competitive balance. This has objective real world outcomes in terms of kinesiology. That is not a differing viewpoint unless you are delusional.It differs from other viewpoints, genius.

Jesus, you're so pretentious you can't even realize that.:lol


What I take issue with is you instead making about your people's viewpoints specifically how much they care.You're free to screech and make an issue about it.

He never said he cared about any women's or girls' sports. I think that to be the case. I don't either; I just thought the relevant organizations already dealt with it just fine.


But we both know you were playing stupid as if you were not aware of how gene expression applies to try and start up your idiotic OCD nonsense.I'm beginning to think you are truly stupid but own a thesaurus.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It differs from other viewpoints, genius.

Jesus, you're so pretentious you can't even realize that.:lol

You're free to screech and make an issue about it.

He never said he cared about any women's or girls' sports. I think that to be the case. I don't either; I just thought the relevant organizations already dealt with it just fine.

I'm beginning to think you are truly stupid but own a thesaurus.

So you do not believe in objective reality. You still think caring matters. Okay.

[ChumpDumper]

So you do not believe in objective reality.Straw man.

:lol you can't argue in good faith.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Straw man.

:lol you can't argue in good faith.

Objective reality is independent of viewpoint. You insist on viewpoint. It's all ego with you.

[ChumpDumper]

Objective reality is independent of viewpoint. You insist on viewpoint. It's all ego with you.Nah. Policy is made from viewpoints. You need to talk to your therapist about your ego. Your projection on this board is apparent and hilarious.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nah. Policy is made from viewpoints. You need to talk to your therapist about your ego. Your projection on this board is apparent and hilarious.

If you say so. I think you are just feeling a similar disdain as I feel for you. The tit for tat thing just makes me think my barbs hit home, Chump.

We are talking about the merits of policy not passing policy. I am saying let's look at objective reality in terms of actual outcomes like what happens to people's bodies as they grow and transition.

You want to talk about how much your political opponents care.

[Blake]

Having a Y chromosome leads to additional muscle and bone mass over those those that do not is subjective? The studies on the muscle atrophy from transition are subjective?

Get over me, dude.

You're cherry picking. Get over yourself, dmc.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're cherry picking. Get over yourself, dmc.

Nice assertion without basis. As per rule, that can be discarded. I am a skeptic.

DMC certainly would discount things out of hand and try to make it about how much his political opponents care. These are your behaviors.

[Blake]

Nice assertion without basis. As per rule, that can be discarded. I am a skeptic.

:lol fuzzy's rules

[Blake]

Dmc would really try hard to dissect the poster instead of stay on topic. That's you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dmc would really try hard to dissect the poster instead of stay on topic. That's you.

And yet all you can do in this thread is talk about me. You're narrative belies itself.

[Blake]

And yet all you can do in this thread is talk about me. You're narrative belies itself.

:lol you're seriously doing nothing in this thread but whining about everyone else. It's all you do in this forum. Go into your play thread and dissect Kori some more. I'm sure he loves it when you talk about him like you do.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol you're seriously doing nothing in this thread but whining about everyone else. It's all you do in this forum. Go into your play thread and dissect Kori some more. I'm sure he loves it when you talk about him like you do.

I was trying to talk about the objective reality of Y chromosome expression.

And you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of ever since. Your about as ingenuous as that story about your wife.

[Blake]

I was trying to talk about the objective reality of Y chromosome expression.

And you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of ever since. Your about as ingenuous as that story about your wife.

You're not trying at all. And now you're taking that extra personal step. Just like dmc.

If "Y chromosome expression" was the end all "objective reality", this wouldn't even be up for discussion anywhere. But it is.

You're talking straight out of your ass, cherry picking one ridiculously small aspect of any of this. Just like dmc.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're not trying at all. And now you're taking that extra personal step. Just like dmc.

If "Y chromosome expression" was the end all "objective reality", this wouldn't even be up for discussion anywhere. But it is.

You're talking straight out of your ass with cherry picking one ridiculously small aspect of any of this. Just like dmc.

As opposed to your side who want to talk about how much people care? Just for fun I will play long:

What else should we consider other than gene expression and the affects of transition as it relates to competitive balance in sports involving trans athletes?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It is funny that DMC turned into an insult.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/ksatnews/status/1669429571144372237?t

Another huge W for Abbott :tu

[Winehole23]

It is funny that DMC turned into an insult.I thought it was a comparison, seems the stakes got inflated somewhere.

I hope DMC is doing okay wherever he is. For his own tranquility of mind, it were probably well not for him to dwell here much longer.

[Winehole23]

is he still active on the BB side?

[ChumpDumper]

If you say so. I think you are just feeling a similar disdain as I feel for you. The tit for tat thing just makes me think my barbs hit home, Chump.

We are talking about the merits of policy not passing policy. I am saying let's look at objective reality in terms of actual outcomes like what happens to people's bodies as they grow and transition.

You want to talk about how much your political opponents care.I don't think there's a ton of merit to passing this policy on this level. It was already addressed.

Your objective reality would make it illegal for pubescent kids to play against still prepubescent kids for the sake of fairness.

It's reality gene expression, but who cares? No one.

Someone was told to care about this one. That's why it was addressed. Pure emotion.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ksatnews/status/1669429571144372237?t

Another huge W for Abbott :tuThere was armed security at the worst school shootings.

[leemajors]

There was armed security at the worst school shootings.

Really glad my daughter graduated last month and is out of this state. It's also odd he somehow found money for schools without finding money for actual school improvements, school supplies, etc.

[Blake]

Really glad my daughter graduated last month and is out of this state. It's also odd he somehow found money for schools without finding money for actual school improvements, school supplies, etc.

Kids don't need free lunches. Mohr guns!

[Blake]

As opposed to your side who want to talk about how much people care? Just for fun I will play long:

What else should we consider other than gene expression and the affects of transition as it relates to competitive balance in sports involving trans athletes?

"......Often missing from the culture-war aspect of the debate is a focus on the type of questions that Dr. Eric Vilain has spent much of his career researching. Vilain, a pediatrician and geneticist who studies sex differences in athletes, says there are no good faith reasons to limit transgender women's participation in sports, especially at the high school level. Vilain has advised both the International Olympic Committee and the NCAA, and says these laws generally aren't based in scientific evidence, but rather "target women who have either a different biology or ... simply look different."


........

We know that men have, on average, an advantage in performance in athletics of about 10% to 12% over women, which the sports authorities have attributed to differences in levels of a male hormone called testosterone. But the question is whether there is in real life, during actual competitions, an advantage of performance linked to this male hormone and whether trans athletes are systematically winning all competitions. The answer to this latter question, are trans athletes winning everything, is simple — that's not the case. And higher levels of the male hormone testosterone are associated with better performance only in a very small number of athletic disciplines: 400 meters, 800 meters, hammer throw, pole vault — and it certainly does not explain the whole 10% difference.

And lastly, I would say that every sport requires different talents and anatomies for success. So I think we should focus on celebrating this diversity, rather than focusing on relative notions of fairness. For example, the body of a marathon runner is extremely different from the body of a shot put champion, and a transwoman athlete may have some advantage on the basketball field because of her height, but would be at a disadvantage in gymnastics. So it's complicated....... "

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/18/978716732/wave-of-new-bills-say-trans-athletes-have-an-unfair-edge-what-does-the-science-s

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"......Often missing from the culture-war aspect of the debate is a focus on the type of questions that Dr. Eric Vilain has spent much of his career researching. Vilain, a pediatrician and geneticist who studies sex differences in athletes, says there are no good faith reasons to limit transgender women's participation in sports, especially at the high school level. Vilain has advised both the International Olympic Committee and the NCAA, and says these laws generally aren't based in scientific evidence, but rather "target women who have either a different biology or ... simply look different."


........

We know that men have, on average, an advantage in performance in athletics of about 10% to 12% over women, which the sports authorities have attributed to differences in levels of a male hormone called testosterone. But the question is whether there is in real life, during actual competitions, an advantage of performance linked to this male hormone and whether trans athletes are systematically winning all competitions. The answer to this latter question, are trans athletes winning everything, is simple — that's not the case. And higher levels of the male hormone testosterone are associated with better performance only in a very small number of athletic disciplines: 400 meters, 800 meters, hammer throw, pole vault — and it certainly does not explain the whole 10% difference.

And lastly, I would say that every sport requires different talents and anatomies for success. So I think we should focus on celebrating this diversity, rather than focusing on relative notions of fairness. For example, the body of a marathon runner is extremely different from the body of a shot put champion, and a transwoman athlete may have some advantage on the basketball field because of her height, but would be at a disadvantage in gymnastics. So it's complicated....... "

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/18/978716732/wave-of-new-bills-say-trans-athletes-have-an-unfair-edge-what-does-the-science-s



Nice after 3 days of debate and being called out on it repeatedly here on day 3 one of you shows some courage.

The above article has a bunch of statistical hearsay and sounds a lot like a christian when they say "well we cannot know so it must be God." Prima facie the sample sizes when you divide into events is going to be statistically meaningless.

I'm with the ACLU.



We have shown that under testosterone suppression
regimes typically used in clinical settings, and which
comfortably exceed the requirements of sports federations
for inclusion of transgender women in female sports categories by reducing testosterone levels to well below the
upper tolerated limit, evidence for loss of the male performance advantage, established by testosterone at puberty
and translating in elite athletes to a 10–50% performance
advantage, is lacking. Rather, the data show that strength,
lean body mass, muscle size and bone density are only
trivially afected. The reductions observed in muscle mass,
size, and strength are very small compared to the baseline
diferences between males and females in these variables,
and thus, there are major performance and safety implications in sports where these attributes are competitively signifcant. These data signifcantly undermine the delivery
of fairness and safety presumed by the criteria set out in
transgender inclusion policies, particularly given the stated
prioritization of fairness as an overriding objective (for the
IOC). If those policies are intended to preserve fairness,
inclusion and the safety of biologically female athletes,
sporting organizations may need to reassess their policies
regarding inclusion of transgender women.


https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/049-9_exhibit_i.pdf

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought it was a comparison, seems the stakes got inflated somewhere.

I hope DMC is doing okay wherever he is. For his own tranquility of mind, it were probably well not for him to dwell here much longer.

It did but Blake/Chump took that comparison and have been trying to pin it on mem since.

[Ef-man]

Kids don't need free lunches. Mohr guns!

This only applies to public schools so not much of a solution as private schools are on their own.

[Blake]

Nice after 3 days of debate and being called out on it repeatedly here on day 3 one of you shows some courage.

The above article has a bunch of statistical hearsay and sounds a lot like a christian when they say "well we cannot know so it must be God." Prima facie the sample sizes when you divide into events is going to be statistically meaningless.

I'm with the ACLU.




https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/049-9_exhibit_i.pdf

Day 3, you're still whining about me and other posters but at least you finally posted something to back up your shit.

This is co-author of the study you linked:

"The Dangerous Denial of Sex
Transgender ideology harms women, gays—and especially feminine boys and masculine girls.
By Colin M. Wright and Emma N. Hilton
Feb. 13, 2020 6:54 pm ET

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dangerous-denial-of-sex-11581638089

^ that ridiculous opinion piece was one year before she published the article there in the aclu.org link (which you said "I'm with the ACLU").
Plenty of others out there questioning Hilton and Lundberg's methodology as well

Same point as before tho: this is complicated. Although it's hard to come by, more study is needed.

[Blake]

This only applies to public schools so not much of a solution as private schools are on their own.

And if vouchers become a thing, then what's the problem?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Day 3, you're still whining about me and other posters but at least you finally posted something to back up your shit.

This is co-author of the study you linked:

"The Dangerous Denial of Sex
Transgender ideology harms women, gays—and especially feminine boys and masculine girls.
By Colin M. Wright and Emma N. Hilton
Feb. 13, 2020 6:54 pm ET

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dangerous-denial-of-sex-11581638089

^ that ridiculous opinion piece was one year before she published the article there in the aclu.org link (which you said "I'm with the ACLU").
Plenty of others out there questioning Hilton and Lundberg's methodology as well

Same point as before tho: this is complicated. Although it's hard to come by, more study is needed.

Do you have anything other than ad hominem to discredit on merit?

[Blake]

Do you have anything other than ad hominem to discredit on merit?

Hilton is a noted anti trans campaigner. It's not unfair to question her bias.