Woj: Zach Collins Agrees to 3-Yr, $22M Deal with Spurs

[TD 21]

This is insane. He made sense as a flier on a cheap 2 year contract. Instead, it either appears the do view McDermott as a starter (also insane) or they're still after Markkanen and are trying to form the whitest, t-rex armed, physically weakest front court since the Hornets some years ago.

[BatManu20]

Another one.

[Texas_Ranger]

:lmao

[timvp]

OMG. I didn't want him for the minimum. Three foot surgeries in the last year? Not even that good before that? WTF.

[Robz4000]

CROFL

[cd98]

Hope they have an out if he can't ever play again.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Uggh. If only he had two functioning feet.

[slick'81]

:lol Spurs going total rebuild. If this guy can learn to walk without breaking something maybe next year they have something to work with

[Chinook]

Just... damn.

[eDizzle20]

Are u kidding me. What are the Spurs doing?!?

[BatManu20]

Damn. Way too much for him. The most injury-prone player in the league. 3 ankle surgeries in the past 2 seasons and apparently is having foot issues.

Spurs have to overpay to bring players to SA but this one is a huge gamble.

[slick'81]

Spurs gonna reset in three seasons. Now they have enough cap space to bring back fatty and ddr

[objective]

This is THE stupidest fucking signing EVER

This fucking guy won't even play next year

He's barely played in 2 years

And now they probably won't have enough money for John Collins

holy shit

This is like Pau Gasol and Mills and Carroll and bags of feces mashed into a singularity of awful

[Cardinal]

This can't be fully guaranteed, at least

[Seventyniner]

Please tell me the third year is a team option. And for McDermott tol.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Brian Wright baby! Luka pack your bags who cares if he didn’t even get a full season or shot

[TimDunkem]

Inb4 Sugus, Dex, Dejounte, and Mr.Old Body tell us how we're contenders, and anyone poo-pooing this are spoiled fake fans. :lmao

[slick'81]

Spurs waiving the white towel on fa. This might be a massive overpay if he never recovers

[Trill Clinton]

Now this signing I DO NOT like. EWWWW

[Sugus]

Where's the "chuckles I'm in danger" image when you need it

Petrini reporting the Spurs are left with enough capspace to offer the other Collins a Max........

[Barfunk]

Front office now just overdoing it.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Dieng is so much better than this this fucking scrub but they get this guy?

[TheGreatYacht]

Mr Fat Body gonna spin this into a win for the Spurms as well :lmao

Easily the worst deal FA already. My god. He's a net negative when on the court and he barely does that. Trying to get pasty white asses on seats after Pop offended daddy Trump

[objective]

This is the kind of deal that makes heads explode

The Spurs couldn't wait this market out? He had his damn offer pulled

Everyone else is blowing their money, because there's not a high demand for guys who can't play

Never scored more than 7 points a game or even snagged a league average PER as a damn big. Every big in the league can get to an average PER, they're slanted towards bigs

disgraceful

[Chomag]

Wrong Collins numbnutz... This FO I just can't....

[TimDunkem]

Mr Fat Body gonna spin this into a win for the Spurms as well :lmao

Easily the worst deal FA already. My god. He's a net negative when on the court and he barely does that. Trying to get pasty white asses on seats after Pop offended daddy Trump
The only thing the Sperms will lead in this year is in the amount of white dudes being dunked on. At least the royalties from all the posters should be good. :lmao

[Mugen]

I need a spin from the Sniff Crew asap tbh.

Literally the stupidest fucking FO in the league setting them back years and years :lmao

[slick'81]

Mcdermoot and zach i have not feet collins..whats next? No seriously whats next:lol

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/bobbymarks42/status/1422341672504119301?s=21

Dunno how to embed tweets. We really maxing the other Collins huh? Damn

[duncan2150]

Not a fan of this one :huh

[timvp]

:lmao Blazers pull one-year, $7 million qualifying offer. Spurs sign him to three-year, $22 million contract. :lmao

:lmao Wasting cap space on a guy who has played 11 games the last two seasons and has undergone like his 5th surgery a couple weeks ago :lmao

:lmao Not even for a good player, mind you, a meh player even the rare times he's healthy :lmao

[Chomag]

But why?

[TheGreatYacht]

When your bigs are Purdle, U-banks, Fluka, Collins, and McNugget. You are in trouble

[cjw]

Wtf

[Mnky]

This is a 2022 signing tbh. His recovery time is December. He's 23, can shoot the three, play big, and defend the perimeter. Those are the modern big traits you aim for. Dont forget he played with two ball hogs and his numbers are definitely skewed due to that. I am a blazer fan and can tell you the two sharp shooters ALWAYS missed him running the floor for and easy basket. He is definitely better than his numbers and they went their furthest when he was healthy.. that's name of the game on this signing. It's just a gamble that you can get him healthy. If he can become healthy, this is a decent signing going into next year. Signing him this year is basically just calling Dibs since the spurs don't really have anything else to do with the money, it's not that bad of a call.

JOHN Collins has to be the only probable big signing this year and the spurs likely know their number and his number. Either they're close or not. If not, might as well start planning for the future.

I don't mind this signing at all, as long as it doesn't interfere with other signings. At this point, that isn't the case.

[slick'81]

This is truly pathetic

[Barfunk]

Front office ain't worth a fuck. They need to clean house.

[Isitjustme?]

:lmao

[KingKev]

Haha tell me we aren’t moving to Vegas. Brian Wright probably loves gambling, hookers and blow. I mean who doesn’t?

[RC_Drunkford]

I was wondering who would be our new "pay him 7 million per year while he ain't playing" charity case after Pau and Demarre Carroll coming off the books. Now I know :lmao at least he's younger :lmao

[Big Empty]

Zach Call-Ins ������#♂️������#♂️ He gone play 2 games the rest sick ankle

[TimDunkem]

They could sign a AAA star and it would still be bittersweet because of this shit deal + McDingleberry + overreaching on Primo.

They had a real chance to reset this year and they decided to sign white, culture guys. :lmao

Hey we might be competitive enough to fight for the play in again!

[objective]

:lmao Blazers pull one-year, $7 million qualifying offer. Spurs sign him to three-year, $22 million contract. :lmao

:lmao Wasting cap space on a guy who has played 11 games the last two seasons and has undergone like his 5th surgery a couple weeks ago :lmao

:lmao Not even for a good player, mind you, a meh player even the rare times he's healthy :lmao

If you still have faith after this, then man ...

Nothing helps rebuilding teams like 30 year old non-rebounding wings and crippled massively overpaid below average bigs

[objective]

:lmao Blazers pull one-year, $7 million qualifying offer. Spurs sign him to three-year, $22 million contract. :lmao

:lmao Wasting cap space on a guy who has played 11 games the last two seasons and has undergone like his 5th surgery a couple weeks ago :lmao

:lmao Not even for a good player, mind you, a meh player even the rare times he's healthy :lmao

If you still have faith after this, then man ...

Nothing helps rebuilding teams like 30 year old non-rebounding wings and crippled massively overpaid below average bigs

[james evans]

I don't know what the fuck is going on with this franchise.

[TimDunkem]

I was wondering who would be our new "pay him 7 million per year while he ain't playing" charity case after Pau and Demarre Carroll coming off the books. Now I know :lmao at least he's younger :lmao
Bro, this isn't a signing to be competitive. It's a culture thing and sets us up for the re-re-rebuild 3 years from now when Collins is finally healthy. Stop being a spoiled fake fan, bro!!!! :lol

[Mugen]

Brian Wright is a legit fucking idiot tbh. I wouldn't trust him to be a WNBA Assistant GM and dumbass Pop and RC handed him the fucking keys.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[timvp]

Marcus Morris embarrasses Brian Wright so Brian Wright decides to only sign the highest of high character guys. First, Primo because he was the highest character guy in the draft. Now, McDermott and Collins.

My god.

[slick'81]

Brian wrong in full effect

[TimDunkem]

This is a 2022 signing tbh. His recovery time is December. He's 23, can shoot the three, play big, and defend the perimeter. Those are the modern big traits you aim for. Dont forget he played with two ball hogs and his numbers are definitely skewed due to that. I am a blazer fan and can tell you the two sharp shooters ALWAYS missed him running the floor for and easy basket. He is definitely better than his numbers and they went their furthest when he was healthy.. that's name of the game on this signing. It's just a gamble that you can get him healthy. If he can become healthy, this is a decent signing going into next year. Signing him this year is basically just calling Dibs since the spurs don't really have anything else to do with the money, it's not that bad of a call.

JOHN Collins has to be the only probable big signing this year and the spurs likely know their number and his number. Either they're close or not. If not, might as well start planning for the future.

I don't mind this signing at all, as long as it doesn't interfere with other signings. At this point, that isn't the case.
We have our first Sniff Crew spin!

Don't worry guys! We didn't waste ALLLLLL of the money! Maybe after a few more wasted years Collins might be able to walk again!

:lmao

[cd98]

Haha tell me we aren’t moving to Vegas. Brian Wright probably loves gambling, hookers and blow. I mean who doesn’t?

Well, I mean he's gambling on a 6'11 white dude with 5 ankle surgeries in three years. I'd say he loves to gamble.

[vy65]

Inb4 Sugus, Dex, Dejounte, and Mr.Old Body tell us how we're contenders, and anyone poo-pooing this are spoiled fake fans. :lmao

YOU SON OF A BITCH I'M IN

[KingKev]

Haha tell me we aren’t moving to Vegas. Brian Wright probably loves gambling, hookers and blow. I mean who doesn’t?

[vy65]

Inb4 Sugus, Dex, Dejounte, and Mr.Old Body tell us how we're contenders, and anyone poo-pooing this are spoiled fake fans. :lmao

YOU SON OF A BITCH I'M IN

[jjspur]

Does this guy need better Nike's or what. Do we need to take an extra insurance policy out on him? Earlier I had read that Collins and Atlanta weren't close, and then I saw we had signed a Collins. Nope, we got the one with the bad feet.

[timvp]

Collins being a three-point shooter is a bit of a myth. He shoots them less frequently than Dejounte Murray and hits 32% for his career. McDermott isn't really a high-end sniper (despite his reputation) but Collins barely registers as any type of three-point shooter.

[baseline bum]

Fuck me, I thought this was a troll thread when I opened it. Brian Wrong really is the 2021 David Khan. Alfredrik Hughes Era Redux it is.

[MoSpur02]

So no Dieng?

[Robz4000]

At least the sniffers like this signing tbh. They're the only true fans.

[objective]

How many guys have ever missed practially 3 years of their career and made it back to do anything? Especially players who were never worth a damn to begin with?

Ilgauskas had a bad 3 year stretch, 5 games, 0 games, 24 games. But he was actually producing before he went down with injury, 15 & 8.

Zollins has never done a damn thing.

If he wasn't a 10th overall pick nobody would give a shit about him. Brian Wright might as well sign Curtis Borchardt next, damn

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Popsuckers would laugh at me when I said spurs talk could make better free agency signings then the spurs the last 5 years. Are y’all still laughing now motherfuckers?

[cd98]

Haha tell me we aren’t moving to Vegas. Brian Wright probably loves gambling, hookers and blow. I mean who doesn’t?

Well, I mean he's gambling on a 6'11 white dude with 5 ankle surgeries in three years. I'd say he loves to gamble.

[Jsmythe]

Is this guy even better than Trey Lyles? Couldn't they find a Trey Lyles type player for $5 mil instead of paying an injured guy $7 mil?

[CGD]

I’ll own it: I like this signing. It’s worth the gamble, plus in all likelihood these are the type of deals we’d been left with anyway. It’s a shitty crop this summer. People just pissed it’s happening st 12:01 again.

His deal will start in the 6M range, and we’ll see what year 3 protections there are. Spurs still have moved to make.

[cjw]

Did the team doctors at least get to check him out in the 90 minutes it took to make this signing? Jesus.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets paid more than a million bucks per game he plays for this team.

[MannyIsGod]

wow I don't mind the mcdermott signing but lol @ this. Like, why?

[slick'81]

Dont worry guys hell be back on the floor in February

[Chomag]

Welp...at least watching the sniffers defend this pile of shit will be entertaining right?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Our GM is a total utter abortion


Someone start A Karen petition to fire his ass

[TimDunkem]

Zollins because the real Collins is in Atlanta...

[objective]

Portland was so afraid of him signing his qualifying offer that they pulled it.

They were afraid of him burning capspace as an injured player who wasn't even that good when he did play. Despite the embarrassment of picking Collins over BAM and other players, they did the smart thing and didn't want him around.

Brian Wright goes ahead and gives him a 3 year 22 million dollar deal.

One of the worst signings in NBA history.

Just waiting on the excuses to come with, "Spurs had intel that other teams wanted him at like, 3/21, so the Spurs HAD TO ACT! Intel!"

[Sugus]

YOU SON OF A BITCH I'M IN

Ooh, thanks for the quote, almost missed that. :sleep

Daily reminder timvp that the blocking function on this site is still trash. Can you put your anger at the FO to good use and work on it...?

[Seventyniner]

Primo, I can see the point now.
Wieskamp looks like a good pick.
McDermott is decent if the 3rd year is a teqm option or non guaranteed, bad if not.
Zach Collins just makes very little sense, even if the 3rd year isn't guaranteed.

[Russ]

Dejounte has got to feel the culture wars closing in . . .

[Seventyniner]

Primo, I can see the point now.
Wieskamp looks like a good pick.
McDermott is decent if the 3rd year is a teqm option or non guaranteed, bad if not.
Zach Collins just makes very little sense, even if the 3rd year isn't guaranteed.

[r0drig0lac]

:lol Spurs going total rebuild. If this guy can learn to walk without breaking something maybe next year they have something to work withlol

[Mnky]

We have our first Sniff Crew spin!

Don't worry guys! We didn't waste ALLLLLL of the money! Maybe after a few more wasted years Collins might be able to walk again!

:lmao

They literally have 30 million in cap holds.
They have enough money to sign everyone in free agency. How does this signing hurt the spurs? People are acting like they're hurt.
I'm not sure why 7 million a year, which is likely not guaranteed, is getting everyone emotional.

I want John collins, Kawhi Leonard and CP3 but I mean..I live in reality.

[TimDunkem]

Portland was so afraid of him signing his qualifying offer that they pulled it.

They were afraid of him burning capspace as an injured player who wasn't even that good when he did play. Despite the embarrassment of picking Collins over BAM and other players, they did the smart thing and didn't want him around.

Brian Wright goes ahead and gives him a 3 year 22 million dollar deal.

One of the worst signings in NBA history.

Just waiting on the excuses to come with, "Spurs had intel that other teams wanted him at like, 3/21, so the Spurs HAD TO ACT! Intel!"

:lmao :lmao :lmao PATFO

[TimDunkem]

Portland was so afraid of him signing his qualifying offer that they pulled it.

They were afraid of him burning capspace as an injured player who wasn't even that good when he did play. Despite the embarrassment of picking Collins over BAM and other players, they did the smart thing and didn't want him around.

Brian Wright goes ahead and gives him a 3 year 22 million dollar deal.

One of the worst signings in NBA history.

Just waiting on the excuses to come with, "Spurs had intel that other teams wanted him at like, 3/21, so the Spurs HAD TO ACT! Intel!"

:lmao :lmao :lmao PATFO

[Atl Spur]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!

[Atl Spur]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!

[PhantomDashCam]

So this is where the Primo drafting makes me a little nervous...

If you skip over guys like Kai Jones and Sengun and pay a guy, who hasn't played in over a year mind you, double that rookie amount to most likely sit on the bench... not sure I understand this one.

[Cardinal]

I'm going to withhold final judgment until we learn more details about the deal and see what else the Spurs do with the rest of their cap space. At first glance, it's really a questionable signing and since it's one of the first moves of the offseason, it doesn't build much confidence that the front office is making the best decisions. But the Spurs could still sign John Collins, for example - and if that had happened first, and this move happened last, we would probably be singing a different tune

[TimDunkem]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!

Everyone point and laugh at how fucking stupid this Slurper is. :lmao

Best big not named Tim and David, he said. Hahahaha Clown.

[TimDunkem]

I'm going to withhold final judgment until we learn more details about the deal and see what else the Spurs do with the rest of their cap space. At first glance, it's really a questionable signing and since it's one of the first moves of the offseason, it doesn't build much confidence that the front office is making the best decisions. But the Spurs could still sign John Collins, for example - and if that had happened first, and this move happened last, we would probably be singing a different tune

This move sucks no matter who else they sign.

[daslicer]

I"m not a fan of this signing. It's a terrible signing with that being said my younger brother loves the Blazers and follows them a lot. He told me Zac is a 7 foot poor man's version of David Lee and that if he can stay healthy he would be a 12-7 player.

[RC_Drunkford]

Portland was so afraid of him signing his qualifying offer that they pulled it.

They were afraid of him burning capspace as an injured player who wasn't even that good when he did play. Despite the embarrassment of picking Collins over BAM and other players, they did the smart thing and didn't want him around.

Brian Wright goes ahead and gives him a 3 year 22 million dollar deal.

One of the worst signings in NBA history.

Just waiting on the excuses to come with, "Spurs had intel that other teams wanted him at like, 3/21, so the Spurs HAD TO ACT! Intel!"

It's up there with the Demarre Carroll signing :lol

[pad300]

Can we get an injury exception if he doesn't play this year?

[Mnky]

I’ll own it: I like this signing. It’s worth the gamble, plus in all likelihood these are the type of deals we’d been left with anyway. It’s a shitty crop this summer. People just pissed it’s happening st 12:01 again.

His deal will start in the 6M range, and we’ll see what year 3 protections there are. Spurs still have moved to make.

This signing literally changes nothing limitation wise for the Spurs while they take a flyer on one of the better looking young bigs in the league a couple years ago. If he's hurt, I'm sure the contract goes in the can. Nothing to lose situation. People always grasping for straws here.

[Chomag]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!
Dude wasn't very good even in that very brief moment of being healthy. Damn, put the booze down man!!

[Russ]

Maybe my expectations were too low, but I kinda like what the Spurs have done thus far.

Pop will have a team that he can (theoretically) coach to play the "beautiful game."

I can just see Pop with a big grin in practice ordering his guys to "run the picket fence."

[Chomag]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!
Dude wasn't good even in that very brief moment of being healthy. Damn, put the booze down man!!

[manu2timdynasty]

Mr Fat Body gonna spin this into a win for the Spurms as well :lmao

Easily the worst deal FA already. My god. He's a net negative when on the court and he barely does that. Trying to get pasty white asses on seats after Pop offended daddy Trump

What a pathetic cuck. Lmao.

[baseline bum]

If he can stay healthy this is definitely worth a flier. We’re rebuilding. He's insanely underrated. He lead the entire NBA in DFG% at the rim 2/3 years he played while also being extremely mobile and switchable. Plus his shot isn't broken. He's a fantastic role player 3 and D center if he can just stay on the court. The Spurs spent $21M on Carroll recently just to cut him halfway through the season so $22M for Collins isn’t too bad. he is a lotto pick and he getting paid chump change its low risk high reward so i like it. and for crying out loud yall always complain and shit. Y'all are tripping man I'm hyped for Zach Collins fuck tanking. Ayyyyyyy. We on the win culture train baby!!!!! If y’all wanna watch some bullshit tanking, tune into those booboo ass teams with 0 championships.

[Biggems]

Mcdermoot and zach i have not feet collins..whats next? No seriously whats next:lol

rumor has it that BW is all in on Jimmer, but he turns us down, his #2 choice is to bring Adam Morrison out of retirement to compete for comeback player of the year.

[baseline bum]

If he can stay healthy this is definitely worth a flier. We’re rebuilding. He's insanely underrated. He lead the entire NBA in DFG% at the rim 2/3 years he played while also being extremely mobile and switchable. Plus his shot isn't broken. He's a fantastic role player 3 and D center if he can just stay on the court. The Spurs spent $21M on Carroll recently just to cut him halfway through the season so $22M for Collins isn’t too bad. he is a lotto pick and he getting paid chump change its low risk high reward so i like it. and for crying out loud yall always complain and shit. Y'all are tripping man I'm hyped for Zach Collins fuck tanking. Ayyyyyyy. We on the win culture train baby!!!!! If y’all wanna watch some bullshit tanking, tune into those booboo ass teams with 0 championships.

[Uriel]

Spurs front office MO now is to go after high character guys who want to be on the Spurs.

[Russ]

If he can stay healthy this is definitely worth a flier. We’re rebuilding. He's insanely underrated. He lead the entire NBA in DFG% at the rim 2/3 years he played while also being extremely mobile and switchable. Plus his shot isn't broken. He's a fantastic role player 3 and D center if he can just stay on the court. The Spurs spent $21M on Carroll recently just to cut him halfway through the season so $22M for Collins isn’t too bad. he is a lotto pick and he getting paid chump change its low risk high reward so i like it. and for crying out loud yall always complain and shit. Y'all are tripping man I'm hyped for Zach Collins fuck tanking. Ayyyyyyy. We on the win culture train baby!!!!! If y’all wanna watch some bullshit tanking, tune into those booboo ass teams with 0 championships.

This kind of praise from BB about a Spurs' move is almost like they got the Nobel Prize.

[baseline bum]

This kind of praise from BB about a Spurs' move is almost like they got the Nobel Prize.

Copypaste from r/Spurs reddit bro

[Manong Ginobili]

Wtf this guy got more than Bobby Portis

[HankChinaski]

It's a bitter pill to swallow as a fan. We better get details on the contract overall. Partial, Team Clauses etc.

This deal is a stretch even more if there is no John Collins signing or acquisition to finish free agency

[timvp]

My hope.....

Brian Wright: Alright, so we got that John Collins max offer we'll keep quiet until Friday since he's a restricted free agent and we gotta catch the Hawks napping. McDermott agreed. We got some cash left ... we better spend it before Pop tells us to bring Patty back.

RC Buford: Alright, who would take $7 million a year?

BW: Hmm... I'm not sure. That's not much money these days.

RC: What's Kyle Korver up to these days? You can trust that guy at his word!

BW: Uh, I think he's retired.

RC: What abut Pau Gasol? I think he even has a foundation! And he opted out that one time so overpaying him is only the classy thing to do!

BW: I'm pretty sure he's busy right now. What about that broken down big man in Portland? He can't be asking for much.

RC: Bill Walton?

BW: Nah, that other guy.

RC: Sam Bowie?

BW: No ... what's his name, he barely played. Ah, I can't remember his name.

RC: Greg Oden?

BW: No. No. Oh, yeah, Zach Collins. I think he's out for the season. He'll take whatever we offer. Plus, the rest of the NBA would think we're crazy so they'll be caught totally off guard when we sign John Collins to the max.

RC: Samuel Adams?

BW: No, never mind, RC. I got this!

[r0drig0lac]

My hope.....

Brian Wright: Alright, so we got that John Collins max offer we'll keep quiet until Friday since he's a restricted free agent and we gotta catch the Hawks napping. McDermott agreed. We got some cash left ... we better spend it before Pop tells us to bring Patty back.

RC Buford: Alright, who would take $7 million a year?

BW: Hmm... I'm not sure. That's not much money these days.

RC: What's Kyle Korver up to these days? You can trust that guy at his word!

BW: Uh, I think he's retired.

RC: What abut Pau Gasol? I think he even has a foundation! And he opted out that one time so overpaying him is only the classy thing to do!

BW: I'm pretty sure he's busy right now. What about that broken down big man in Portland? He can't be asking for much.

RC: Bill Walton?

BW: Nah, that other guy.

RC: Sam Bowie?

BW: No ... what's his name, he barely played. Ah, I can't remember his name.

RC: Greg Oden?

BW: No. No. Oh, yeah, Zach Collins. I think he's out for the season. He'll take whatever we offer. Plus, the rest of the NBA would think we're crazy so they'll be caught totally off guard when we sign John Collins to the max.

RC: Samuel Adams?

BW: No, never mind, RC. I got this!

amazing

[CGD]

My hope.....

Brian Wright: Alright, so we got that John Collins max offer we'll keep quiet until Friday since he's a restricted free agent and we gotta catch the Hawks napping. McDermott agreed. We got some cash left ... we better spend it before Pop tells us to bring Patty back.

RC Buford: Alright, who would take $7 million a year?

BW: Hmm... I'm not sure. That's not much money these days.

RC: What's Kyle Korver up to these days? You can trust that guy at his word!

BW: Uh, I think he's retired.

RC: What abut Pau Gasol? I think he even has a foundation! And he opted out that one time so overpaying him is only the classy thing to do!

BW: I'm pretty sure he's busy right now. What about that broken down big man in Portland? He can't be asking for much.

RC: Bill Walton?

BW: Nah, that other guy.

RC: Sam Bowie?

BW: No ... what's his name, he barely played. Ah, I can't remember his name.

RC: Greg Oden?

BW: No. No. Oh, yeah, Zach Collins. I think he's out for the season. He'll take whatever we offer. Plus, the rest of the NBA would think we're crazy so they'll be caught totally off guard when we sign John Collins to the max.

RC: Samuel Adams?

BW: No, never mind, RC. I got this!

Hahaha! Curse of the Blazer big men. I’ll pour one out for Roy too, even though he was a guard.

In all seriousness, I’m tracking that Spurs still have over $30M after these two. With new that other Collins and ATL haven’t come to terms, you may be on to something…

[vy65]

Ooh, thanks for the quote, almost missed that. :sleep

Daily reminder timvp that the blocking function on this site is still trash. Can you put your anger at the FO to good use and work on it...?

lol Karrengus complaining to the manager

[Rummpd]

Farce of FO raises it to another level

[Kurgan]

Wouldn't be a Spurs off-season without them signing another washed up, future buy-out candidate.

[Chomag]

My hope.....

Brian Wright: Alright, so we got that John Collins max offer we'll keep quiet until Friday since he's a restricted free agent and we gotta catch the Hawks napping. McDermott agreed. We got some cash left ... we better spend it before Pop tells us to bring Patty back.

RC Buford: Alright, who would take $7 million a year?

BW: Hmm... I'm not sure. That's not much money these days.

RC: What's Kyle Korver up to these days? You can trust that guy at his word!

BW: Uh, I think he's retired.

RC: What abut Pau Gasol? I think he even has a foundation! And he opted out that one time so overpaying him is only the classy thing to do!

BW: I'm pretty sure he's busy right now. What about that broken down big man in Portland? He can't be asking for much.

RC: Bill Walton?

BW: Nah, that other guy.

RC: Sam Bowie?

BW: No ... what's his name, he barely played. Ah, I can't remember his name.

RC: Greg Oden?

BW: No. No. Oh, yeah, Zach Collins. I think he's out for the season. He'll take whatever we offer. Plus, the rest of the NBA would think we're crazy so they'll be caught totally off guard when we sign John Collins to the max.

RC: Samuel Adams?

BW: No, never mind, RC. I got this!
:lmao:rollin:lmao

This is actually believable ...sadly

[objective]

Why did they have to come to terms so fast? Teams were running out of money and Portland didn't want him.

Why big against yourself? If he really did have another offer like 3/21 like OKC maybe ... let him take it. I doubt any team with an MLE that wanted to contend for the playoffs were going to tie it up on a guy that just had major surgery.

Lord, why do they have to jump in like this? Why?

[ducks]

HELLO
DOES HE NOT HAVE to PASS PHYSICALL

[baseline bum]

My hope.....

Brian Wright: Alright, so we got that John Collins max offer we'll keep quiet until Friday since he's a restricted free agent and we gotta catch the Hawks napping. McDermott agreed. We got some cash left ... we better spend it before Pop tells us to bring Patty back.

RC Buford: Alright, who would take $7 million a year?

BW: Hmm... I'm not sure. That's not much money these days.

RC: What's Kyle Korver up to these days? You can trust that guy at his word!

BW: Uh, I think he's retired.

RC: What abut Pau Gasol? I think he even has a foundation! And he opted out that one time so overpaying him is only the classy thing to do!

BW: I'm pretty sure he's busy right now. What about that broken down big man in Portland? He can't be asking for much.

RC: Bill Walton?

BW: Nah, that other guy.

RC: Sam Bowie?

BW: No ... what's his name, he barely played. Ah, I can't remember his name.

RC: Greg Oden?

BW: No. No. Oh, yeah, Zach Collins. I think he's out for the season. He'll take whatever we offer. Plus, the rest of the NBA would think we're crazy so they'll be caught totally off guard when we sign John Collins to the max.

RC: Samuel Adams?

BW: No, never mind, RC. I got this!

My expectation of the phone call...

BW: Well let's bring Demar back at the same salary. That leaves us $7 million to throw at that Collins guy who was killing shit in the playoffs last year.

RC: Who is this and how the fuck did you get my number?

[Kurgan]

people holding out hope for a John Collins offer :lol

The draft and FA have shown the FO values high character scrubs, not playing ability. That rules Collins out. Better get yourselves ready for the upcoming Lauri sign and trade followed up with Patty coming back.

[SpurPadre]

I guess we have a new nickname for our front court D: White Out

[baseline bum]

people holding out hope for a John Collins offer :lol

The draft and FA have shown the FO values high character scrubs, not playing ability. That rules Collins out. Better get yourselves ready for the upcoming Lauri sign and trade followed up with Patty coming back.

Only have enough room for one or the other. Guessing they're bringing DePression back though, not trading him.

[slick'81]

I guess we have a new nickname for our front court D: White Out

teams gonna shit their pants when poodle,collins,wisencamp,mcdermott& luka hit the floor

[SAGirl]

He’s likely to not play again and if he does, he’ll look like old broken foot Pau Gasol.

[slick'81]

Only have enough room for one or the other. Guessing they're bringing DePression back though, not trading him.


Looking more ,and more like ddr with the money they left over. Assuming he doesnt bolt to la or miami

[offset formation]

This is insane. He made sense as a flier on a cheap 2 year contract. Instead, it either appears the do view McDermott as a starter (also insane) or they're still after Markkanen and are trying to form the whitest, t-rex armed, physically weakest front court since the Hornets some years ago.

when you go for the tank. go for the muthafuckin tank.

[baseline bum]

Looking more ,and more like ddr with the money they left over. Assuming he doesnt bolt to la or miami

He'd probably have to sign for MLE to go to either.

[SpurPadre]

teams gonna shit their pants when poodle,collins,wisencamp,mcdermott& luka hit the floor

Don’t forget that undrafted big we have that has no business playing in the NBA. I forgot his name lol.

[SpurPadre]

teams gonna shit their pants when poodle,collins,wisencamp,mcdermott& luka hit the floor

Don’t forget that undrafted big we have that has no business playing in the NBA. I forgot his name lol.

[MoSpur02]

My hope is that the ex Trailblazer to the Spurs good fortune repeats. Like when we got Jerome Kersey, Steve Kerr, Terry Porter, and Patty Mills. After playing in Portland and came to the Spurs they won a championship. That’s the only bright side for me. I’m desperate.

[MoSpur02]

My hope is that the ex Trailblazer to the Spurs good fortune repeats. Like when we got Jerome Kersey, Steve Kerr, Terry Porter, and Patty Mills. After playing in Portland and came to the Spurs they won a championship. That’s the only bright side for me. I’m desperate.

[offset formation]

Why did they have to come to terms so fast? Teams were running out of money and Portland didn't want him.

Why big against yourself? If he really did have another offer like 3/21 like OKC maybe ... let him take it. I doubt any team with an MLE that wanted to contend for the playoffs were going to tie it up on a guy that just had major surgery.

Lord, why do they have to jump in like this? Why?

I asked the same question about McDermott. This only bolsters that.

makes me think they're trying to send messages to DDR and maybe Gay and Mills to about what offers are possible so they sign elsewhere??

[offset formation]

Why did they have to come to terms so fast? Teams were running out of money and Portland didn't want him.

Why big against yourself? If he really did have another offer like 3/21 like OKC maybe ... let him take it. I doubt any team with an MLE that wanted to contend for the playoffs were going to tie it up on a guy that just had major surgery.

Lord, why do they have to jump in like this? Why?

I asked the same question about McDermott. This only bolsters that.

makes me think they're trying to send messages to DDR and maybe Gay and Mills to about what offers are possible so they sign elsewhere??

[Dex]

Inb4 Sugus, Dex, Dejounte, and Mr.Old Body tell us how we're contenders, and anyone poo-pooing this are spoiled fake fans. :lmao

Don’t drag my name into this. I’m on record as saying that I hate the Primo pick and free agency is proving that Brian Wright is a moron in my opinion.

[rastaspur]

Speechless tbh

[Leetonidas]

Low risk high reward move but probably an overpay

[Robz4000]

My hope is that the ex Trailblazer to the Spurs good fortune repeats. Like when we got Jerome Kersey, Steve Kerr, Terry Porter, and Patty Mills. After playing in Portland and came to the Spurs they won a championship. That’s the only bright side for me. I’m desperate.


Timmy ain't walking through that door tbh.

[Russ]

You can say what you want about these moves, good or bad, but one thing is clear --

They had a plan and got the guys they wanted early. This doesn't feel like scrambling around at the end of free agency, looking for Plan B or C.

That alone seems like a positive (notwithstanding the fact, of course, that it could all be a complete disaster :lol).

In any event, the question is answered -- they have chosen a direction for this team, they have a clear vision for this team, an approach which will either succeed or fail, but even its failure will leave no doubt about what they were trying for.

[Robz4000]

You can say what you want about these moves, good or bad, but one thing is clear --

They had a plan and got the guys they wanted early. This doesn't feel like scrambling around at the end of free agency, looking for Plan B or C.

That alone seems like a positive (notwithstanding the fact, of course, that it could all be a complete disaster :lol).

In any event, the question is answered -- they have chosen a direction for this team, they have a clear vision for this team, an approach which will either succeed or fail, but even its failure will leave no doubt about what they were trying for.

To be a treadmill team?

[TimDunkem]

To be a treadmill team?
Nothing about that post makes sense, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

You can say what you want about these moves, good or bad, but one thing is clear --

They had a plan and got the guys they wanted early. This doesn't feel like scrambling around at the end of free agency, looking for Plan B or C.

That alone seems like a positive (notwithstanding the fact, of course, that it could all be a complete disaster :lol).

In any event, the question is answered -- they have chosen a direction for this team, they have a clear vision for this team, an approach which will either succeed or fail, but even its failure will leave no doubt about what they were trying for.

Jesus...

[pad300]

Dieng gets $4M/1 YR from the hawks. While we give Zach $22M/3 YRS.

[Russ]

Nothing about that post makes sense, tbh.

Probably too much wine on my end.

[RC_Drunkford]

To be a treadmill team?

to win 27 games so Flopovich gets the alltime winning record. I doubt they will win that many games though, it will be close

[Rito3d30]

Don't think Dieng will come to Spurs for the same amount though
Hawks is good

[SAGirl]

I mean Dieng would have been better on that same deal. Maybe he didn’t want to return to the Spurs.

[Russ]

I mean Dieng would have been better on that same deal. Maybe he didn’t want to return to the Spurs.

Ya think?

[Robz4000]

to win 27 games so Flopovich gets the alltime winning record. I doubt they will win that many games though, it will be close

That'd be good news if it nets the Spurs a top pick. Unfortunately now we can't depend on the Spurs to draft halfway decently anymore, they'll waste it on some scrub who has the potential to be a lottery pick the following season.

[cjw]

I mean Dieng would have been better on that same deal. Maybe he didn’t want to return to the Spurs.

At this point in his career, better to go to a competitive team

[cjw]

That'd be good news if it nets the Spurs a top pick. Unfortunately now we can't depend on the Spurs to draft halfway decently anymore, they'll waste it on some scrub who has the potential to be a lottery pick the following season.

I’m fine with the Primo pick. Draft record has been fine considering where they’ve been drafting.

I would love for them to tank for a year or two and get higher upside picks.

[SAGirl]

At this point in his career, better to go to a competitive team
Just a couple years ago ATL wasn’t a destination. Here they are.:toast
1422363805640761345

[Chomag]

to win 27 games so Flopovich gets the alltime winning record. I doubt they will win that many games though, it will be close Its going to take 2-3 seasons more to hit that mark at this rate tbh :lol

[rankingtear]

Why not. Doubling down on 2 mobile 6-10+ players that can play inside and out. Who gets there faster between Collins health or Luka's offense.

[dbestpro]

He's 23 years old. Where there's that..........................................

[Dingle Barry]

I’m fine with the Primo pick. Draft record has been fine considering where they’ve been drafting.

I would love for them to tank for a year or two and get higher upside picks.

Either way, Wright will be picking the guy who catches his eye at the combine.

[Mugen]

Don’t drag my name into this. I’m on record as saying that I hate the Primo pick and free agency is proving that Brian Wright is a moron in my opinion.

My man!

[Mr. Body]

I don't really get it, but no reason to shoot your dicks off. Go jack or to John Collins porn and chill out. What a bunch of fucking losers.

[slick'81]

I don't really get it, but no reason to shoot your dicks off. Go jack or to John Collins porn and chill out. What a bunch of fucking losers.
:lol Its ok were not getting collins either

[Marcus Bryant]

https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/sheridan_1.jpg

[Big Empty]

Can we use the rest of the $30 million cap space to sign Sam Presti to a 20 year $600 million contract

[vy65]

I don't really get it, but no reason to shoot your dicks off. Go jack or to John Collins porn and chill out. What a bunch of fucking losers.

Uuuuu sun of a b!tvh, eyem in!

[vy65]

I don't really get it, but no reason to shoot your dicks off. Go jack or to John Collins porn and chill out. What a bunch of fucking losers.

Uuuuu sun of a b!tvh, eyem in!

[8sy21vd]

Even a broken clock is 'wright' twice a day. Brian Wrong may put an end to that idiom.

[vy65]

Can we use the rest of the $30 million cap space to sign Sam Presti to a 20 year $600 million contract

I’d also send out a couple second rounders to get Johnny Ludden back on the Express News

[vy65]

Can we use the rest of the $30 million cap space to sign Sam Presti to a 20 year $600 million contract

I’d also send out a couple second rounders to get Johnny Ludden back on the Express News

[baseline bum]

I’d also send out a couple second rounders to get Johnny Ludden back on the Express News

Or just send out firsts since they're being used to draft second round players now

[baseline bum]

I’d also send out a couple second rounders to get Johnny Ludden back on the Express News

Or just send out firsts since they're being used to draft second round players now

[slick'81]

Or just send out firsts since they're being used to draft second round players now


:lmao

[Degoat]

I liked the McBuckets signing, but this one puzzled me… maybe they view him as a potential cheaper Markkanen

[Neo.]

lol spurfans got their new Zach "Kevin McHale" Collins to brag about for 3 years then turn on him when he doesn't live up to unrealistic expectations

[RC_Drunkford]

He got a lot of potential. They just paid him too much. I hope the medical staff did their due diligence, but his health is a huge questionmark. To give him a 22 million / 3-year deal is crazy

[Kawhitstorm]

Mr Fat Body gonna spin this into a win for the Spurms as well :lmao

Easily the worst deal FA already. My god. He's a net negative when on the court and he barely does that. Trying to get pasty white asses on seats after Pop offended daddy Trump

https://media2.giphy.com/media/KGHTGCsdrPOq3H8QES/giphy.gif?cid=790b761182d6e8d9ff6e210062ddaf3b9861 90cd0f607528&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Robz4000]

He got a lot of potential. They just paid him too much. I hope the medical staff did their due diligence, but his health is a huge questionmark. To give him a 22 million / 3-year deal is crazy

:lol his potential is that of a rotation player my guy, and the reality is he prolly won't play any meaningful minutes in the NBA again

[Kawhitstorm]

Mr Fat Body gonna spin this into a win for the Spurms as well :lmao

Easily the worst deal FA already. My god. He's a net negative when on the court and he barely does that. Trying to get pasty white asses on seats after Pop offended daddy Trump

https://media2.giphy.com/media/KGHTGCsdrPOq3H8QES/giphy.gif?cid=790b761182d6e8d9ff6e210062ddaf3b9861 90cd0f607528&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Robz4000]

He got a lot of potential. They just paid him too much. I hope the medical staff did their due diligence, but his health is a huge questionmark. To give him a 22 million / 3-year deal is crazy

:lol his potential is that of a rotation player my guy, and the reality is he prolly won't play any meaningful minutes in the NBA again

[objective]

:lol at people excusing this deal as a 'flyer'.

3/22 is not a flyer. Cousins on a 1 year unguaranteed minimum, that's a flyer.

This is an abomination.

[baseline bum]

lol spurfans got their new Zach "Kevin McHale" Collins to brag about for 3 years then turn on him when he doesn't live up to unrealistic expectations

I expect him to be a broken down piece of shit, should have no problem meeting those expectations.

[Jordan Jackson]

Spurs signed a guy with no feet. Amazing.

Never a dull moment with this front office. At least they’re entertaining.

[vy65]

fY2ylMV2iNk

We’re paying him for at least 1 year of rehab, he won’t play 2021-2022. He could recover or never set foot on the court again. At best he’ll have missed three years of development. And we’re paying him 22mill.

[vy65]

Really curious about the due diligence done on his medical condition.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Or just send out firsts since they're being used to draft second round players now

:rollin

[tbdog]

We don't know if there are any team options or guarantees.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I expect him to be a broken down piece of shit, should have no problem meeting those expectations.

:rollin

[cd98]

Hmmm not great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY2ylMV2iNk

I hope the Spurs have an out in that contract.

[vy65]

With the timeline of his recovery, the first year has to be guaranteed. You’d think the second year would also unless the Spurs think they’ll know what’s up by the end of year 2, which is doubtful since he’s not playing for year 1.

[spurs1990]

Marcus Morris embarrasses Brian Wright so Brian Wright decides to only sign the highest of high character guys. First, Primo because he was the highest character guy in the draft. Now, McDermott and Collins.

My god.

As scathing as this post is, I would love to hear your unencumbered thoughts if you weren't beholden to sensitively being the founder of the site. And I mean why exactly Wright is the GM here at all, much less when Spurs FO alums are all over the league.

[baseline bum]

fY2ylMV2iNk

We’re paying him for at least 1 year of rehab, he won’t play 2021-2022. He could recover or never set foot on the court again. At best he’ll have missed three years of development. And we’re paying him 22mill.

And you thought the DeMarre Carroll signing was stupid :lol

[Sugus]

lol Karrengus complaining to the manager

I'll get you banned in no time, funny boy :devil

[slick'81]

And you thought the DeMarre Carroll signing was stupid :lol

for the vet min maybe . 3/22:lol fckn spurs

[superbigtime]

Just wow.

[vy65]

I'll get you banned in no time, funny boy :devil

This has got to be one of the more pathetic threats ever lodged on this forum. And that’s saying something given Koriwhat’s decade long tenure. Congrats on your achievement.

[objective]

Zach "might never play again" Collins : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

DeMarre "I got your money, sucker" Carroll : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

Doug "how did I get this much money?" McDermott : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/agent-client-list/Mark-Bartelstein/15

[slick'81]

Zach "might never play again" Collins : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

DeMarre "I got your money, sucker" Carroll : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

Doug "how did I get this much money?" McDermott : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/agent-client-list/Mark-Bartelstein/15

spurs bending over for the bartlestein train

[timvp]

Zach "might never play again" Collins : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

DeMarre "I got your money, sucker" Carroll : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

Doug "how did I get this much money?" McDermott : AGENT - MARK BARTELSTEIN

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/agent-client-list/Mark-Bartelstein/15

Good find :lol :cry

[Atl Spur]

I love spurstalk��������. You boys hate the Spurs so much but can’t leave������ It’s like an abusive relationship ..... leave’em girls��������

[objective]

Surgeon from that fantasy doctors youtube video June 29:


"You don't know for sure if he will definitely be able to come back from this or not ... This has ended some careers."

Brian Wright:


"Sounds like some good intel that he'll be a great multi-year signing."

[timvp]

Alright, so seriously, the second and third years have to be non-guaranteed, right? This also has to be a declining contract, right? You pay guaranteed money up front in exchange for possibly having him at a below market rate the next two years.

I still don't like the signing even if years two and three are unguaranteed with declining money amounts ..... but at least I could better understand the strategy behind the deal.

[objective]

Alright, so seriously, the second and third years have to be non-guaranteed, right? This also has to be a declining contract, right? You pay guaranteed money up front in exchange for possibly having him at a below market rate the next two years.

I still don't like the signing even if years two and three are unguaranteed with declining money amounts ..... but at least I could better understand the strategy behind the deal.

Declining might put the absolute max for John Collins in jeopardy.

Or maybe the 22 is with unlikely incentives. but those are limited to 15% of the value.

[vy65]

Alright, so seriously, the second and third years have to be non-guaranteed, right? This also has to be a declining contract, right? You pay guaranteed money up front in exchange for possibly having him at a below market rate the next two years.

I still don't like the signing even if years two and three are unguaranteed with declining money amounts ..... but at least I could better understand the strategy behind the deal.

You’d think it’d be the opposite to guard against the risk of him never playing again vs returning. Low exposure for rehab year and if he comes back, then he’s earned more than 7MM.

[pad300]

Alright, so seriously, the second and third years have to be non-guaranteed, right? This also has to be a declining contract, right? You pay guaranteed money up front in exchange for possibly having him at a below market rate the next two years.

I still don't like the signing even if years two and three are unguaranteed with declining money amounts ..... but at least I could better understand the strategy behind the deal.


Declining might put the absolute max for John Collins in jeopardy.

Or maybe the 22 is with unlikely incentives. but those are limited to 15% of the value.


You’d think it’d be the opposite to guard against the risk of him never playing again vs returning. Low exposure for rehab year and if he comes back, then he’s earned more than 7MM.

Lots of games could be played. For example, what about is "likely" incentives. A pay per game set up of a bonus (say $40,000) for every time he suits up for a game, would be a likely incentive (all he has to to is be healthy to get it, not like winning an award or anything). It would count towards the announced value of the contract as a likely incentive - that's $3.2M per 80 game season. Would take a lot of the sting out of paying him $7M to rehab for a year...

[pad300]

Alright, so seriously, the second and third years have to be non-guaranteed, right? This also has to be a declining contract, right? You pay guaranteed money up front in exchange for possibly having him at a below market rate the next two years.

I still don't like the signing even if years two and three are unguaranteed with declining money amounts ..... but at least I could better understand the strategy behind the deal.


Declining might put the absolute max for John Collins in jeopardy.

Or maybe the 22 is with unlikely incentives. but those are limited to 15% of the value.


You’d think it’d be the opposite to guard against the risk of him never playing again vs returning. Low exposure for rehab year and if he comes back, then he’s earned more than 7MM.

Lots of games could be played. For example, what about is "likely" incentives. A pay per game set up of a bonus (say $40,000) for every time he suits up for a game, would be a likely incentive (all he has to to is be healthy to get it, not like winning an award or anything). It would count towards the announced value of the contract as a likely incentive - that's $3.2M per 80 game season. Would take a lot of the sting out of paying him $7M to rehab for a year...

[KobesAchilles]

This is a really good signing and I have no idea why anybody is bitching about it. We need a rebuild and that’s going to take 3 years. Pop isn’t going anywhere as a coach (apparently I was wrong on that one) and so that means we are tanking even if we don’t want to tank :lol

So by signing these shitty players that only reinforced the TANK. I rather have these POS than the Real Collins at this point. Initially I wanted JCollins but he fixes zero issues. Our issue is that we have no A level talent. Our best player is a B- player in White. How do we get A level talent? You get lucky as hell and draft it. So yeah we are gonna suck and these signings suck and ZCollins won’t help in any way shape or form. But at this point, we need as many lottery picks as possible to get out man. Meanwhile this shitty ass no foot Collins is perfect for us. Locks up money on a player that won’t help and ensures we suck bad.

Btw everyone here was saying no way are we near a Sacramento Kings position and our front office is so much better and blah blah blah. Now they realize that ol Kobe’s Achilles was right on the money and we are a waaaays away from making the playoffs. At the soonest 3 years away apparently:lol.

[Russ]

You’d think it’d be the opposite to guard against the risk of him never playing again vs returning. Low exposure for rehab year and if he comes back, then he’s earned more than 7MM.

But you have to get him to agree to the deal.

Putting the money up front protects him so he can afford to give you a bargain on the back end.

It also earns some trust and may increase your chances of keeping him if he ends up having a nice career.

[SayTown]

If it ain't white, it ain't Wright!

[objective]

Lots of games could be played. For example, what about is "likely" incentives. A pay per game set up of a bonus (say $40,000) for every time he suits up for a game, would be a likely incentive (all he has to to is be healthy to get it, not like winning an award or anything). It would count towards the announced value of the contract as a likely incentive - that's $3.2M per 80 game season. Would take a lot of the sting out of paying him $7M to rehab for a year...

incentives can't be more than 15% of the total.

Also per the cbafaq section 74 on incentives:


A bonus also cannot be based on the player dressing in uniform or being eligible to play for a specific number of games.

[Atl Spur]

But you have to get him to agree to the deal.

Putting the money up front protects him so he can afford to give you a bargain on the back end.

It also earns some trust and may increase your chances of keeping him if he ends up having a nice career.
This man gets it!

[DAF86]

Current basketball has finally ran past PATFO. It's time for a complete overhaul, tbh.

[JeffDuncan]

This is a really good signing and I have no idea why anybody is bitching about it. We need a rebuild and that’s going to take 3 years. Pop isn’t going anywhere as a coach (apparently I was wrong on that one) and so that means we are tanking even if we don’t want to tank :lol

So by signing these shitty players that only reinforced the TANK. I rather have these POS than the Real Collins at this point. Initially I wanted JCollins but he fixes zero issues. Our issue is that we have no A level talent. Our best player is a B- player in White. How do we get A level talent? You get lucky as hell and draft it. So yeah we are gonna suck and these signings suck and ZCollins won’t help in any way shape or form. But at this point, we need as many lottery picks as possible to get out man. Meanwhile this shitty ass no foot Collins is perfect for us. Locks up money on a player that won’t help and ensures we suck bad.

Btw everyone here was saying no way are we near a Sacramento Kings position and our front office is so much better and blah blah blah. Now they realize that ol Kobe’s Achilles was right on the money and we are a waaaays away from making the playoffs. At the soonest 3 years away apparently:lol.


Tank like Patton (but look good doing it.)

Sign shooters so we can claim to be trying to score enough points to win. Check.

Sign a charity case so we’ll continue to look like wonderful people. Check.

So far so good.

[JR3]

I’m speechless. I guess this is one way to get the first pick in the draft.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

No idea what they were thinking with this deal. I guess we should start researching Banchero and Holmgren. Where's the ST fav draft prospect for august thread Dejounte?

I guess it'd be fine if they pull off a miraculous John Collins signing but the more likely scenarios seem to be DDR returning or DDR S&T for trash.

[DPG21920]

No idea what they were thinking with this deal. I guess we should start researching Banchero and Holmgren. Where's the ST fav draft prospect for august thread Dejounte?

I guess it'd be fine if they pull off a miraculous John Collins signing but the more likely scenarios seem to be DDR returning or DDR S&T for trash.

I wish SA could get a top 3 pick…they will be just the same as before…8-12 in the West with no chance at landing a top pick or making any noise in the PO.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I wish SA could get a top 3 pick…they will be just the same as before…8-12 in the West with no chance at landing a top pick or making any noise in the PO.

With DDR back? Maybe. But without him and without Collins they're a 20 win team. Even with Collins I don't think they'll be at last season's level unless some young guys make a significant leap.

[El Santo]

I wish SA could get a top 3 pick…they will be just the same as before…8-12 in the West with no chance at landing a top pick or making any noise in the PO.

Even if they goy a top 3 pick i am sure they would pick an unknown second rounder projected player like primo

[DPG21920]

With DDR back? Maybe. But without him and without Collins they're a 20 win team. Even with Collins I don't think they'll be at last season's level unless some young guys make a significant leap.

Ya - meant with DDR back. No Collins or No DDR then it’s definitely less although I think DDR may not be as big of a loss in the win column as people think with Murray/White/Lonnie/Devin/Keldon absorbing his net negative minutes.

[Mugen]

They'd be a better team simply by losing Derozan tbh. Bringing him back would be the nail in the coffin for this poverty organization.

[callo1]

If....I know it is a big if he is healthy, this can workout to be a steal.

[timtonymanu]

lol spurfans got their new Zach "Kevin McHale" Collins to brag about for 3 years then turn on him when he doesn't live up to unrealistic expectations

Holy fucking shit, man. :lol I honestly would have settled for a Demar, Rudy, Patty re-signing if this is what our front office's plan was.

[slick'81]

If....I know it is a big if he is healthy, this can workout to be a steal.


If he can stay healthy and play. Still hes a never was bust

[timtonymanu]

7 million is NOTHING in nba dollars:) if he gets healthy, he’s better than any big man we ever had not named tim or david! They are have access & insight we will never have..... don’t start your period ladies! We just getting started!

Of course you would be slurping this like each and every other horrible move the front office has done as of late. :lol

[Robz4000]

Holy fucking shit, man. :lol I honestly would have settled for a Demar, Rudy, Patty re-signing if this is what our front office's plan was.

Fuck that, I'll take these two deals if it means DePression is gone. What worries me is I think these moves are a prelude to resigning him.

[timtonymanu]

Fuck that, I'll take these two deals if it means DePression is gone. What worries me is I think these moves are a prelude to resigning him.

Agreed. Damn watching PATFO these days is both sad and entertaining. What a shitshow but they just keep topping one shit move after the other.

[Robz4000]

Agreed. Damn watching PATFO these days is both sad and entertaining. What a shitshow but they just keep topping one shit move after the other.

:lol it really is

[timtonymanu]

Inb4 Sugus, Dex, Dejounte, and Mr.Old Body tell us how we're contenders, and anyone poo-pooing this are spoiled fake fans. :lmao

Atl Spur makes any of those posters look like the “Edgelord” posters. Also my boy Dex and Sugus are not that bad. :lol

[BillMc]

As a Southern Nevada native (like Collins) I 've got to root for the guy....though I still think it's likely not to work out. Bigs who are often injured, especially in the feet, are never the same.

[slick'81]

Sp apparently okc were in on Zach&driving the price up:cry fckn presti

[timtonymanu]

Honestly it would be less embarrassing for Senilovich if he thought Zach Collins was John Collins, just like they thought DeMarre Carroll was Jae Crowder :lol

[r0drig0lac]

I love spurstalk��������. You boys hate the Spurs so much but can’t leave������ It’s like an abusive relationship ..... leave’em girls��������

who cares?

[r0drig0lac]

Current basketball has finally ran past PATFO. It's time for a complete overhaul, tbh.

yep, in 2018

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Tank mode initiated.

If they wanted to give $7MM next season to a guy who won’t see the floor, I was totally available. For a team that’s historically been so prudent with deals this one makes no sense to me. Potential with nothing proven is worth a lot to this team.

[BillMc]

Tank mode initiated.

If they wanted to give $7MM next season to a guy who won’t see the floor, I was totally available.

:lol Would 7 million be worth it to hear people complain about your signing on ST?

[dbestpro]

Collins is still only 23. He may not have played a lot of basketball, but his skill set is undeniable, and he has also spent four years with an NBA team where he has played all the way up to the Western Conference Finals.

Team’s draft or sign guys who have had injury issues in the past, so it’s worth a small to medium multi-year deal for a team to bring him in. There are very few guys who can shoot threes, blocks shots, and defend out to the perimeter. Collins has a recovery date of around December.

[Atl Spur]

Atl Spur makes any of those posters look like the “Edgelord” posters. Also my boy Dex and Sugus are not that bad. :lol

Thanks for enlightening us���� Hopefully at some point before 2k post I get something right or for you dick riders that don’t speak up to clowns like this “ get something Wright “! Time has a way of telling......

[TDomination]

Article from about 2 weeks ago.

https://ripcityproject.com/2021/07/17/portland-trail-blazers-zach-collins-9/

"Team’s draft or sign guys who have had injury issues in the past, so it’s worth a small multi-year deal for a team to bring him back. There are very few guys who can shoot threes, blocks shots, and defend out to the perimeter. Collins has a recovery date of around December."

Looks like we may see him this year.

[Atl Spur]

Article from about 2 weeks ago.

https://ripcityproject.com/2021/07/17/portland-trail-blazers-zach-collins-9/

"Team’s draft or sign guys who have had injury issues in the past, so it’s worth a small multi-year deal for a team to bring him back. There are very few guys who can shoot threes, blocks shots, and defend out to the perimeter. Collins has a recovery date of around December."

Looks like we may see him this year.
You are about to be attacked by some of these fine people��������. Keep bringing the truth!

[Degoat]

If Zach can resume potentially playing in December then this was a great signing! I’m skeptical but minus the injuries he would have been a hot commodity this free agency

[cjw]

If … and that’s a big if … this works, the Spurs will have the 5 covered for a very reasonable amount of money between Collins and Poeltl. And it looks like Collins can slide down to the 4 too as he played with Nurkic and Whiteside:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/colliza01/lineups/2020


And that’s all with $30 million left to spend.

[Excessive Egotist]

Any word on second and third years of Zach Collins' contract. Not guaranteed, I imagine. Er, I hope.

[timtonymanu]

Thanks for enlightening us���� Hopefully at some point before 2k post I get something right or for you dick riders that don’t speak up to clowns like this “ get something Wright “! Time has a way of telling......

You should ask them to change your name to Autism Spur, tbh.

[Dejounte]

If … and that’s a big if … this works, the Spurs will have the 5 covered for a very reasonable amount of money between Collins and Poeltl. And it looks like Collins can slide down to the 4 too as he played with Nurkic and Whiteside:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/colliza01/lineups/2020


And that’s all with $30 million left to spend.

What I’ve said in the past.

Spurs dont want to spend much on the center rotation. They achieve that with Collins.

[Excessive Egotist]

The theme of the offseason has been shooting. Even the summer league team features NBA hopefuls whose only real ticket to the league is shooting. Zach Collins is a stretch five who is also a competent pick and roll defender. If healthy, that is worth 7M. If the Spurs didn't fully guarantee his deal, it's an understandable signing. They could have waited, you'd think, until after they sort their max, but maybe another team gave him an offer.

You can see the front office wants to return to "five live", as LeBron called it in 2014. That is, playing a lot of minutes with five guys who are all threats from perimeter.

This will require all our youngs to progress as shooters. It also means being very selective with Poeltl. So it's risky, but a bet on internal development.

If we're still secretly in play for Ben Simmons, then collecting shooters is also necessary. Simmons thrives in space and is elite at finding open shooters.

[XDT76]

Article from about 2 weeks ago.

https://ripcityproject.com/2021/07/17/portland-trail-blazers-zach-collins-9/

"Team’s draft or sign guys who have had injury issues in the past, so it’s worth a small multi-year deal for a team to bring him back. There are very few guys who can shoot threes, blocks shots, and defend out to the perimeter. Collins has a recovery date of around December."

Looks like we may see him this year.

Just hope we don't rush him back.

[spurraider21]

pretty expensive way to give Derrick White a rehab buddy tbh

[GreekSpursfan]

Good signing, gimme more tank commanders, one year tanking isn't enough tbh. We have to pay someone anyway, whatever.

[JeffDuncan]

Good signing, gimme more tank commanders, one year tanking isn't enough tbh. We have to pay someone anyway, whatever.

Truly. Luka with the broken hand. Zach with the broken foot. Wonder who else with broken bones is available.

[R. DeMurre]

So it looks like the only reason for signing Dieng late in the year was to have an extra big just in case the Spurs made the playoffs... interesting. If they didn't have a playoff run in mind, it seems like it would've made sense to just give those minutes to Eubanks for experience. I guess a couple months of a minimum contract isn't any kind of a risk financially, but I'd love to hear the conversation the FO had when the topic first came up.

[rah88sa]

I guess Brian didn't get the memo. You're supposed to try and get assets for taking on bad contracts...

[The Truth #6]

Zach also missed 63 games with a shoulder injury. So there’s that. I expect Eubanks to get lots of minutes. Lots.

[spurraider21]

people pretending this is a "tank" move need to realize that its a 3 year deal, not 1 year

[spurspl]

definetely one of the worst signing this ofseason in the whole league

[Ocotillo]

So it looks like the only reason for signing Dieng late in the year was to have an extra big just in case the Spurs made the playoffs... interesting. If they didn't have a playoff run in mind, it seems like it would've made sense to just give those minutes to Eubanks for experience. I guess a couple months of a minimum contract isn't any kind of a risk financially, but I'd love to hear the conversation the FO had when the topic first came up.

I seem to recall Eubanks got more playing time than Dieng much to the chagrin of a number of ST posters.

[R. DeMurre]

I seem to recall Eubanks got more playing time than Dieng much to the chagrin of a number of ST posters.

Yeah, I didn't get it at the time either-- but I guess they likely had no intention of re-signing him anyway, so they weren't worried about his possible negative perception of allotted minutes.

[DMX7]

people pretending this is a "tank" move need to realize that its a 3 year deal, not 1 year

We might need to "tank" for more than one season to be honest...

[Play Boban]

Glad the Spurs got another high character guy. Hugh basketball IQ.

[mexicanjunior]

definetely one of the worst signing this ofseason in the whole league

Pairs well with the worst draft pick last week...

[spurspl]

Glad the Spurs got another high character guy. Hugh basketball IQ.

u mean medical IQ. After all those injuries he might be a doctor

[ace3g]

Anyone have access to this article: https://theathletic.com/2709729/2021/07/15/free-agent-zach-collins-and-his-long-road-back-its-going-to-be-a-great-story/

https://twitter.com/EricSal_7/status/1422765319605600256

https://twitter.com/EricSal_7/status/1422764208500973570

https://twitter.com/AssassinateHate/status/1422759098773295104

[Robz4000]

Anyone have access to this article: https://theathletic.com/2709729/2021/07/15/free-agent-zach-collins-and-his-long-road-back-its-going-to-be-a-great-story/

https://twitter.com/EricSal_7/status/1422765319605600256

https://twitter.com/EricSal_7/status/1422764208500973570

https://twitter.com/AssassinateHate/status/1422759098773295104

Hopefully that means the second and third seasons are non-guaranteed. Would make me feel better about this signing.

[Sugus]

This has got to be one of the more pathetic threats ever lodged on this forum. And that’s saying something given Koriwhat’s decade long tenure. Congrats on your achievement.

Ain't you here since '08? You missed the "I'll get you banned" meme? Shoulda used the blue font after all, smh...