Shams: Bryn Forbes Agrees to Deal with Spurs

[r0drig0lac]

son of a b...

[duncan2150]

The only good thing is that's a one year deal but i hate it so much. Can't tell how much....

[tbdog]

Spurs had a white injury and they still found minutes for walker and vassell.

So this means to me that vassell is likely backup sf behind McDermott while young backups Johnson.

[ElNono]

The only good thing is that's a one year deal but i hate it so much. Can't tell how much....

Where did you get the details of the deal? how much $$$

[MaNu4Tres]

If they are bringing Bryn back with the intention of playing him, why let Patty go?

The last thing the Spurs need is to give Pop the opportunity to screw up the plan to prioritize the youth. Pop will probably start Bryn and play him 25 minutes because of a mistake Lonnie made day 1 of training camp.

I don't think there's anyway Pop can avoid only keeping Bryn in a 12th man role.

Fuck this.

[slick'81]

son of a b...


Im in

[slick'81]

If they are bringing Bryn back with the intention of playing him, why let Patty go?

The last thing the Spurs need is to give Pop the opportunity to screw up the plan to prioritize the youth. Pop will probably start Bryn and play him 25 minutes because of a mistake Lonnie made day 1 of training camp.

I don't think there's anyway Pop can avoid only keeping Bryn in a 12th man role.

Fuck this.


Somebody has to continue patty's role of ball hogging and ineptitude . Atleast hes still cheaper

[duncan2150]

Where did you get the details of the deal? how much $$$


I just saw the one year deal but not the amount.

[callo1]

The prodigal son returns with the hardware in tow.

I can hear the halftime locker room speech now. Bryn - "Guys look, when we were down in Milwaukee Giannis new it was time to toss me the rock and let me do my thing".

Pop - "Listen to Bryn fellas, he is oozing with championship pedigree and corporate knowledge".


Order the rings RC, the O.Brien is coming back to S.A.


:flag: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :danceclub

:bobo :pop:

[LeBowen]

You guys thought we're finally committing to the future? Get over yourself.
https://media.tenor.com/images/1d44df074b8c9f39f8e8d54f87f88f69/tenor.gif

This is officially a dumpster fire now. The first time Bryn takes Lonnie's minutes I'm switching channels.

[Ron Swanson]

Once Patty left, this was inevitable. Fuck.

[ragas]

I think Simmons is coming, with all these shooters to surround him. DJ, Lonnie, Poeltl, Aminu and picks for Simmons.

There has got to be an explanation for this... too many players, shooters, Landale fellow Ausie and shooter as well...

Big Simmons is coming

You really want to write it into reality, don't you? :lol
Philly signed Drummond a few hours ago, they don't need another C - bad luck for you!

But I would love it for Jak to get out of SA.

[ragas]

Where are Sugus (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54941) and Mr. Body (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=397) when you need them? It'd be nice if they came in this thread and started on a " timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) you were wrong about future Hall of Famer Jakob Poeltl and you're wrong about Bryn Forbes -- when you can get a knockdown shooter in today's NBA, you do it and ask questions later -- Forbes is a certified sniper just like Poeltl is a certified HoF who outplayed the entire value of his contract after one game last season" diatribe. There'd be some comfort in possibly thinking I might be wrong about Forbes, tbh.

You cleary don't want to be taken seriously as a basketball writer. You were wrong about Jakob and you are still ignoring the fact that he played up to his contract or even outplayed it. Nobody talked Poeltl into being a HOF, but he's a borderline starter and gets paid for it. I mean I understand your frustation, but there's no need to act like a fool.

[Larry O]

Hey, Pop is chasing the NBA coaches winningest record, so with that, Bryn's gonna be his secret weapon to achieve that goal! :drunk :shootme :lmao

[callo1]

You guys thought we're finally committing to the future? Get over yourself.
https://media.tenor.com/images/1d44df074b8c9f39f8e8d54f87f88f69/tenor.gif

This is officially a dumpster fire now. The first time Bryn takes Lonnie's minutes I'm switching channels.

Every fire comes from an ignition source, Bryn is our spark.

[ragas]

Spurs won't be in the playoffs for the next 25 years, I guess :loser

[dbestpro]

Pop always thought Forbes could be Curry and over played him against starters. If he now thinks of Forbes as Patty and runs him like coach Bud did from the bench then maybe it might work. Bottom line is DDR, Gayand Patty minutes will be replaced by more minutes divided by McD. Walker, Vassel, Johnson, Forbes and Jones. White and Murray got their minutes. In the end I feel this is Pop just not willing to give up his small ball fetish and wants to push Johnson back to the PF. Pop needs to be admitted to rehab.

[ace3g]

Now I'm actually sad that Patty is gone....

[MoSpur02]

I was woken up from the alert late last night or early morning. I read it thinking it was an error from Shams. I honestly didn’t even read the full tweet because I knew I was half asleep and probably not reading right or it was an error. I come here and see its real and now I’m pissed.

[MVPCues]

insanity. Should have seen it coming when saliva tread optioned out after winning a championship. The pet jokes sound less funny and more credible now. Witchcraft.

[Uriel]

:lmao at people hating on Wright for this move.

Let’s face it. This wasn’t Wright’s idea. This move is 100% on Pop :lmao

[r0drig0lac]

so when some of us say that Kawhi has nothing to do with the current situation of the franchise and that this inept front office is 100% to blame since 2017, some idiots in spurstalk cry in denial, but invariably they will understand , well maybe not, but it's fun to see them trying to find excuses for Pop every year.

[kobyz]

It's really feel Simmons is on his way here... Murray/White, Thad, Amino, Vassell, 4 future first round picks for Ben Simmons!!!

[CGD]

Noooooooooo!!!!!!

[mo7888]

Just waking up and seeing this.... what the hell? I got nothing...

I seriously thought he had agreed with Brooklyn a couple days ago...

[Chinook]

Trade definite. Simmons? Feels like that would explain almost a creepy obsession with shooting.

[Dejounte]

Lonnie has to be gone.

Roster is jam packed. Hole I see is a backup PG. any backup PGs on the market?

[Mnky]

What horrible news to wake up to. They already have competition in the wing department, more is not needed from the obvious worse candidate.

Maybe it's not guaranteed and is a campy body? Spurs are over the player count now.. someone has to go.

Trade bait?

This can't be the final move, it doesn't make any sense. Why would Bryn turn the nets down? Can't imagine spurs gave him a patty thrills loyalty contract :lol

Something has to be up.

[duncan2150]

Lonnie has to be gone.

Roster is jam packed. Hole I see is a backup PG. any backup PGs on the market?

Would be strange to get rid of him now, who is the competition for him at 2 ? white and after Vassel ( who could play 3 so as lonnie in some linueps).

I don't count Primo and Forbes but he would have minutes to show if he's worth a good contract next year.

[spurraider21]

Holy shit this is what i wake up to?

Just waiting for the doctoral thesis from Sugus explaining how amazing this is

[SayTown]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgifimage.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F08%2Fron-paul-its-happening-gif-39.gif&f=1&nofb=1

[LeBowen]

Lonnie has to be gone.

Roster is jam packed. Hole I see is a backup PG. any backup PGs on the market?

Nah, this has nothing to do with Lonnie. This is more about both rookies spending the entire season in Austin.
And they don't see Tre as a player who can be a rotation member.

Why would we need a backup PG?
Just stagger DJ and Derrick. One of them should always be on the floor.

[Dejounte]

Would be strange to get rid of him now, who is the competition for him at 2 ? white and after Vassel ( who could play 3 so as lonnie in some linueps).

I don't count Primo and Forbes but he would have minutes to show if he's worth a good contract next year.

Forbes is Lonnie’s direct competition. Forbes played 5% PG in his time here.

[duncan2150]

Holy shit this is what i wake up to?

Just waiting for the doctoral thesis from Sugus (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54941) explaining how amazing this is

nobody is happy with forbes coming back.

Some posters needs to stop the narrative that every guy who supports the FO in some mooves supports them in everything.

[Brazil]

WHAT.THE.ACTUAL.FUCKING.FUCK.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/42/ca/5c42cad93c2d850ea46504e8470ab8a4.gif

:lol

[duncan2150]

Forbes is Lonnie’s direct competition. Forbes played 5% PG in his time here.

Lonnie would be ahead of him without a doubt tough i don't trust Pop blindly on this one.

[duncan2150]

Forbes is Lonnie’s direct competition. Forbes played 5% PG in his time here.

Lonnie would be ahead of him without a doubt tough i don't trust Pop blindly on this one.

[Dejounte]

Nah, this has nothing to do with Lonnie. This is more about both rookies spending the entire season in Austin.
And they don't see Tre as a player who can be a rotation member.

Why would we need a backup PG?
Just stagger DJ and Derrick. One of them should always be on the floor.

After DJ, Derrick, who? If you add Tre, fine. But if any one of those three gets injured, then no one else really can control the game as any of those three. We saw it all last year its how night and day when you have a psuedo PG run the show (Mills) vs when Murray and White ran it.

[spurraider21]

SpursTalk:

OK, we can kind of look past Zollins because we actually didn’t retain DeRozan and got value for him. Looks like we will finally get that youth movement.

OP:

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8314362.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Student-suspended-from-Gosforth-Academy.jpg

[LeBowen]

After DJ, Derrick, who? If you add Tre, fine. But if any one of those three gets injured, then no one else really can control the game as any of those three. We saw it all last year its how night and day when you have a psuedo PG run the show (Mills) vs when Murray and White ran it.


Yeah, Tre is probably the third stringer who won't get any minutes unless someone is injured.
Getting another PG means less minutes for Lonnie and Devin.

Bryn coming back is already a disaster, adding another guard would be even worse.

[r0drig0lac]

nobody is happy with forbes coming back.

Some posters needs to stop the narrative that every guy who supports the FO in some mooves supports them in everything.funny

[duncan2150]

funny

Not funny at all because it's true. Just want to talk/exchange with grown men.

[Dejounte]

Not funny at all because it's true. Just want to talk/exchange with grown men.

youre not going to get that here. They think they’re “fighting a war” with a group of people when it’s no one but themselves :lmao keep focusing on basketball and talking with other adults

[Eaglenole2002]

The money hasn’t been tweeted out yet. That must mean the dollars are low and the agent wasn’t particularly happy with the deal. Usually they leak it pretty quickly.

[Ocotillo]

Man, draft night the Spurs select Josh Primo and I am like just stunned, WTF.

ST goes to work comes up with a lot of research and hints that the kid was going to be taken later so we had to take him. OK, I think, I crawl back in the window off the ledge.

Free agency starts up and the Spurs sign Dougie Mac and I am like, dang, I didn't really want that guy. Then they sign Zollins and it's back out the window I go.

After some talk I realize, hey they got room to still sign Collins. Then Demar is traded and I crawl back in the window.

Then later in the evening, we sign Jock and all of a sudden, it's going to be fun watching the young guys and seeing who develops and how. Likely won't be winning much but we get to see our draft picks play.

Wake up this morning and see we have brought back Bryn Forbes and it's

'DOWN GOES FRAZIER!"

[duncan2150]

youre not going to get that here. They think they’re “fighting a war” with a group of people when it’s no one but themselves :lmao keep focusing on basketball and talking with other adults

I know i'm wasting my time on this lol

[Dverde]

As long as he’s coming off the bench and making the minimum, I’m fine with it. Loaded mag ready for another tour of duty.

[RC_Drunkford]

I want Spurs fans to protest at this point. Like go to games with banners that say fire the entire FO. Pop, RC, Brian Wrong. Kick them to the curb. This team needs a new front office more than it needs a franchise player

[Teamduncan21]

Man, draft night the Spurs select Josh Primo and I am like just stunned, WTF.

ST goes to work comes up with a lot of research and hints that the kid was going to be taken later so we had to take him. OK, I think, I crawl back in the window off the ledge.

Free agency starts up and the Spurs sign Dougie Mac and I am like, dang, I didn't really want that guy. Then they sign Zollins and it's back out the window I go.

After some talk I realize, hey they got room to still sign Collins. Then Demar is traded and I crawl back in the window.

Then later in the evening, we sign Jock and all of a sudden, it's going to be fun watching the young guys and seeing who develops and how. Likely won't be winning much but we get to see our draft picks play.

Wake up this morning and see we have brought back Bryn Forbes and it's

'DOWN GOES FRAZIER!"

Once they realized we are actually ok with the derozan trade, and is coping well, they have to do something to continue the meltdown.

[lmbebo]

no effing way :( I was feeling hopeful after everything and then this happens.

Doesn't matter what else Wright did or did not do this summer, its an F now..

[The Truth #6]

Could be a trade coming. But likely not for anyone we like.

[The Truth #6]

Wow. What a mess again. I mean, if they traded Yak and surrounded DDR with shooters who can mostly defend, that would have almost made more sense. Sigh. We’ll see.

[CGD]

Nets probably said “no thanks” after Mills was available, and then they called the Spurs for a favor to make it right with Bryn.

[lmbebo]

Guessing Wright has a soft spot for Forbes or Forbes has dirt on Wright.

[slick'81]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/07/63/24/18822429/13/rawImage.jpg

[Degoat]

I’m perplexed lmao gotta be a trade incoming right?! Or maybe he’s filling patty’s old spot? If I’m Lonnie or Devin I’d prepare my towel waving skills

[objective]

:lmao at people hating on Wright for this move.

Let’s face it. This wasn’t Wright’s idea. This move is 100% on Pop :lmao

If he can take the check, he can take the blame.

[The Truth #6]

Losing the Wright Way.

[poopbox]

Completely sapped my desire to watch the spurs play basketball.

Soon as he comes into any game I am turning the channel or doing something else.

Vassel, Lonnie, and Tre are all going to get their minutes reduced cause this guy is going to be running around clapping the floor and having every guard in the league go on a 12 - 0 run against the spurs.

Half the timeouts we take this season is going to be because we need to stop a run Bryn fucking Forbes gave up all by himself.

[ginobilized]

What a horrible thread to wake up to.
Fingers crossed that there is another move coming that makes sense of it all.

Simmons or Siakam? I guess we’ll see.

I’m grateful and comforted that there is a group of folks here with whom to grieve this disturbing news.

[mo7888]

The thing about Forbes is he's fine as a gunner off the bench for 12-15 minutes per night on a playoff team.... we aren't that team right now...

[objective]

Place your guesses for the final numbers

I think 4/30

[slick'81]

Place your guesses for the final numbers

I think 4/30


1/4...ok,ok wishful thinking... 3/12:bang

[Ondrej]

Great addition for the tanking

[Dex]

You too Dejounte (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=51342) Dex (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=403) and Robz4000 where y’all at :lol

I was seriously like "Why is BatManu20 dragging me into some old ass thread?"

Then I fell into the shadow realm.

Thanks for ruining my morning, jackass. :lol

[Leetonidas]

Wtf

[Degoat]

Is Primo gonna have to give up his jersey number now!? Lmao

[Chinook]

Room exception? Hopefully not that much, but it's not like they can spend it on anyone else anyway.

[cd98]

What if they are trading for Simmons and Siakom?

[acoelho1]

Yikes.. I may have to take back all the positives I said about this offseason. Any minutes given to Forbes over our young guys (including the rookies) would be colossally stupid and Pop was probably the driving force behind this signing. There was a reason why he was benched in the playoffs and there is zero justification to bring him back unless he's simply there to towel wave and help the rookies assimilate to the Spurs way.

We have no room at the guard spot and I fear Pop will play him to detriment of the team.. sigh.

Dejounte Murray
Derrick White
Lonnie Walker
Devin Vassell
Josh Primo
Tre Jones

[Uriel]

If we are to believe rumors that Pop is retiring after the Olympics (and I strongly believe they’re credible), then I believe the chance of Forbes being a rotation player, much less a starter next season, are rather low.

I doubt Becky, or whoever replaces Pop, would make the same foolish mistake as he did.

[Poolboy5623]

The laughing stock of the NBA-

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

ARE YOU FVCKING KIDDING ME?!!!






NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[slick'81]

If we are to believe rumors that Pop is retiring after the Olympics (and I strongly believe they’re credible), then I believe the chance of Forbes being a rotation player, much less a starter next season, are rather low.

I doubt Becky, or whoever replaces Pop, would make the same foolish mistake as he did.


I dont know. This signing has POP written all over it. Pop getting the all time win record,and coaching up his step son. Too good to pass up,tbh

[timvp]

ARE YOU FVCKING KIDDING ME?!!!






NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It still hurts :depressed

[Ocotillo]

Good thing we didn't bring in Oubre, guy doesn't play any D.

[Dex]

If we are to believe rumors that Pop is retiring after the Olympics (and I strongly believe they’re credible), then I believe the chance of Forbes being a rotation player, much less a starter next season, are rather low.

I doubt Becky, or whoever replaces Pop, would make the same foolish mistake as he did.

Maybe Pop learned from Bud how Forbes is meant to be played.

But I'm not holding my breath.

[slick'81]

Spurs gonna shoot lights put with all these snipers:lol

[MannyIsGod]

This is the worst news to wake up to what the fuck

[Spurs9]

Monks a guard. Do you want him to take minutes from our youth?

Lakers are contenders that desperately need depth? Do you think Monk would want to play for the minimum, on a team that has no minutes for him? Please answer because this board has this delusional one minded, NBA 2k my gm approach to real life.

[JuneJive]

Swift kick in the groin.

[NASpurs]

Holy shit wtf did I wake up to

[rastaspur]

Ridiculous

[Leetonidas]

Seriously, wtf?? WHY????

[itzsoweezee]

Fuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkk yooouuuuuuuuuu

Fuck this stupid team

I was actually looking forward to next season

[manu2timdynasty]

OMG.

No.

Right when I warmed up to liking this offseason.

Is hating Forbes a litmus test to prove stature on ST? Its been fun coming back to this site reading about what trifles you fangirls are crying about. Herd mentality.

[Spurs Homer]

:pop: “Hey coach bud, you really want a ring? Ok, im sending you the ONE player you need to get this ring goddamnit, Bryn. Only one condition: you send him right back after you got your ring, deal?”


Coach Bud: “ pop, ill do you one better than that - after i get my ring - ill give you the choice of the TWO players you love the most (no- bonner is retired) - Georgie Hill or Bryn- your choice!


:pop: “DEAL!”

[r0drig0lac]

Good thing we didn't bring in Oubre, guy doesn't play any D.

haha nice

[MannyIsGod]

Offseason grade is immediately an F. I have no idea what need Forbes fills.

[MannyIsGod]

What up Bryn. Have you learned to play any D yet?


Is hating Forbes a litmus test to prove stature on ST? Its been fun coming back to this site reading about what trifles you fangirls are crying about. Herd mentality.

[SpurPadre]

And people here were adamant we’re not tanking lol. Unfuckingbelievable that we’re stooping this low, though. Somewhere in LA, Load Management is laughing his ass off at us.

[SpurSpike]

Maybe the goal is to have so many mediocre players that the opposing team doesn't know who to defend lol.

1st time since Gervin that we don't have a star on the team...

[r0drig0lac]

Offseason grade is immediately an F. I have no idea what need Forbes fills.

Pop's heart

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

https://i.ibb.co/ZWbdCDf/simpsyacht.jpg

[HankChinaski]

It better be a 1 year contract.

[FutureMan]

Bet Murray is on the move somehow. Maybe Simmons is the goal.

PHI: Murray, T Young (played for the sixers before), & a potential third piece
SAS: Simmons & hopefully something else back

[Spurs9]

Bet Murray is on the move somehow. Maybe Simmons is the goal.

PHI: Murray, T Young (played for the sixers before), & a potential third piece
SAS: Simmons & hopefully something else back
Hopefully, Simmons def isn't staying in Philly, aussie connection too with the bigman they just signed.

[benefactor]

Saw the news and came for the meltdown.

You guys never disappoint:tu

[Calispursfan11]

He’s a good kid and a glue guy :pop:

[Russ]

Advanced stats literally show Forbes is the worst defender in the NBA. The eye-test agrees.

Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?

[MI21]

Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?

I watched a lot of the Bucks and I promise you, it actually looked worse and it stood out more because he was surrounded by such great defensive players.

[MultiTroll]

1st glance thought an Onion type article and / or BatManu20 needs to be temp banned for the horrible joke.

It's f-ing real. :depressed

Suppose this means Grandpa is back for sure.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Jesus Christ what a terrible way to start off the morning seeing this shit. All the guards we have on this team and we sign back this bum, unreal. The absolute worst part about this is that he’s going to take minutes from someone he has no business playing over at this point. They just couldn’t fucking resist, finally everyone gone and just the young guys left and they do this shit smfh.

[MannyIsGod]

Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?

His DBPM is essentially the same as it was here.

[timvp]

Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

[Spurs Homer]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.


Calling Forbes a “defender” is like calling Donald Trump an honest man.

[spurraider21]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
but he comes back a champion

[spurraider21]

if you want more depressing numbers about Bryn, here's how he was handled in the finals

games 1, still in rotation, played his 12 minutes in a loss
game 2, played 6 minutes in a loss
game 3, with bucks down 2-0, only plays 4 minutes, misses both his shot attempts
game 4, DNP bucks win
game 5, DNP bucks win
game 6, DNP bucks win and seal the title

honestly feel like in a similar situation pop would give forbes more minutes as the series went along instead of white

[Austin_Toros]

Forbes sucks. Why does this board understand that but PATFO does not? :bang

[Texas_Ranger]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.

[spurraider21]

Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.
keldon is oddly enough westbrook-esque in that he plays with 100% energy all the time but often in misguided ways that are counterproductive

[Rummpd]

FARCE of FO goes to new low.

[lefty]

Fuck you haters

http://i.imgur.com/SYP2724.gif

[BatManu20]

Woke up hoping there’d be more to this. But alas, here we are.

[cd98]

I don't really care about this signing if it's a one year deal for a minimum amount and the young players get the minutes and he is just a back up shooter. I don't care if the Spurs get Simmons and need to surround him with shooting, I still would not want to see Forbes on the court.

[spurraider21]

i'd rather have just brought patty back tbh :lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

if you want more depressing numbers about Bryn, here's how he was handled in the finals

games 1, still in rotation, played his 12 minutes in a loss
game 2, played 6 minutes in a loss
game 3, with bucks down 2-0, only plays 4 minutes, misses both his shot attempts
game 4, DNP bucks win
game 5, DNP bucks win
game 6, DNP bucks win and seal the title

honestly feel like in a similar situation pop would give forbes more minutes as the series went along instead of white
Pop coaching that series for the bucks 100% gets swept

[Dex]

Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.

But but but I was told Lonnie is a good defender because he managed to kind of disrupt James Harden for like one quarter.

[BatManu20]

Pop saw this stat and just couldn’t help himself tbh.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E77JMJwXIAQdfUi?format=jpg&name=medium

[Russ]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

Not to quibble but Forbes is ahead of Trae Young who is actually #250 (that guy should probably be cut by Atlanta).

Lonnie Walker is a few spots ahead of Forbes at #243.

Frighteningly, the worst forward listed is McDermott (SF/PF) at #246, second worst forward (SG/SF) is Walker at #243.

They may need to play a lot of zone this year.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

god lonnie's advanced stats are putrid

[R. DeMurre]

Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/
If you scroll through the various categories here-- box score DEF raptor/ on/off DEF raptor/overall DEF-- you'll see Forbes usually near the bottom. Unfortunately the other names you'll also consistently see are Lonnie Walker and Doug McDermott.

Edit: :lol Timvp beat me to it

[timvp]

Not to quibble but Forbes is ahead of Trae Young who is actually #250 (that guy should probably be cut by Atlanta).

Lonnie Walker is a few spots ahead of Forbes at #243.

Frighteningly, the worst forward listed is McDermott (SF/PF) at #246, second worst forward (SG/SF) is Walker at #243.

They may need to play a lot of zone this year.

I was talking about overall defensive RAPTOR where Forbes is 250th of 250. But, yeah, that other stat he's 249th of 250 so that works too :lol

Walker is one of the worst help defenders I've ever seen and not so hot on the ball either so his Forbes-like ranking makes sense.

I've seen Spurs fans try to tell themselves that McDermott isn't a bad defender ...... but they will soon find out the truth, tbh.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/
If you scroll through the various categories here-- box score DEF raptor/ on/off DEF raptor/overall DEF-- you'll see Forbes usually near the bottom. Unfortunately the other names you'll also consistently see are Lonnie Walker and Doug McDermott.

lonnie is one of the absolute worst defenders in the nba and also one of the worst offensive players. overall 3rd worst player in the association

[Russ]

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

Defensively, Rudy Gay is #31 and Kawhi Leonard trails at #62 -- I'm guessing most coaches would rather have Leonard on the court for defensive purposes.

[timvp]

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

Defensively, Rudy Gay is #31 and Kawhi Leonard trails at #62 -- I'm guessing most coaches would rather have Leonard on the court for defensive purposes.

Kawhi hasn't played defense in the regular season for years now, tbh.

[duncan2k5]

What the FUCK???? That's this team

[Proxy]

I've questioned plenty of FO decisions over the years, but never really saw reason to go full Mugen about it til now. Fuck Forbes and the FO, last season I was content just because of him being gone

[Gobigorgohome]

Lol we got our sniper back lol the hell are the front office smoking i was glade to see him go been a fan since i meet some of the spurs in middle school back in the early 80s now this is just bull s

[SPURt]

Ass!!! I was looking forward to seeing the young ones, gross gross gross! This fool is about to start too

[Gobigorgohome]

This is the biggest tank job melt down i have ever seen at least i hope

[Doe]

Damn I knew Lonnie was bad but I didn’t realize he was competing as the worst for his position.

[Doe]

Damn I knew Lonnie was bad but I didn’t realize he was competing as the worst for his position.

[Russ]

Kawhi hasn't played defense in the regular season for years now, tbh.

Same with Bryn, he's just saving it for the playoffs. :)

But actually, I think Pop is trying to construct a new kind of NBA team, more along the lines of international ball (perhaps an outgrowth of his FIBA coaching experience).

More pure shooters, more team (zone) defense, more "make or miss" philosophy both offensively and defensively.

That may be where Pop sees the value these days -- being able to attract those types of players to a smaller market.

[baseline bum]

For the first time in my life I legit gotta wonder WTF am I a fan of this team for. This offseason has been one bitter pill to swallow after another but seeing Forbes signed to likely play 25 minutes a night? That's the worst.

[MannyIsGod]

On the plus side, there was a person here who seemed to have an in with Forbes and sometimes got insider knowledge so maybe that will happen again.

I also don't think Forbes will play very often at all, but this is probably me just trying to cope with this utterly devestating news.

[KobesAchilles]

This is a good signing. Seriously why are people pissed about signing vets who can shoot but play no defense? Makes zero sense. This gives Pop the belief that we aren’t tanking, but gives us the talent to actually tank. It’s perfect. Pop gets to game plan whatever the fuck he thinks will work (it won’t) and then we lose lots of games. That’s the goal.

[rjv]

we've got championship experience now!!!!! yeah!!!!

[SayTown]

On the plus side, there was a person here who seemed to have an in with Forbes and sometimes got insider knowledge so maybe that will happen again.

I also don't think Forbes will play very often at all, but this is probably me just trying to cope with this utterly devestating news.

Pop had to of guaranteed him minutes why else would he sign, didn't he leave Milwaukee because he got cut out of the rotation in the playoffs. By the way what is Belinelli up to these days, might as well bring the band back together.

[The Truth #6]

This is a good signing. Seriously why are people pissed about signing vets who can shoot but play no defense? Makes zero sense. This gives Pop the belief that we aren’t tanking, but gives us the talent to actually tank. It’s perfect. Pop gets to game plan whatever the fuck he thinks will work (it won’t) and then we lose lots of games. That’s the goal.

Well, you’re not wrong.

I think their decisions are the result of:

Pride
Alcoholism
Fear
Cognitive decline


What a combo!

[NASpurs]

All you dumb motherfuckers who have sucked on PATFO’s collective cocks for the last couple of years because of blind loyalty can eat shit now. Y’all don’t have a leg to stand on.

[Uriel]

Gotta love how this thread is literally longer now than the DeRozan trade thread, which was the signature move of our offseason :lmao

[SAGirl]

Not to quibble but Forbes is ahead of Trae Young who is actually #250 (that guy should probably be cut by Atlanta).

Lonnie Walker is a few spots ahead of Forbes at #243.

Frighteningly, the worst forward listed is McDermott (SF/PF) at #246, second worst forward (SG/SF) is Walker at #243.

They may need to play a lot of zone this year.
I hadn’t looked at these stats.

This is a tank move then?

[itzsoweezee]

This is a good signing. Seriously why are people pissed about signing vets who can shoot but play no defense? Makes zero sense. This gives Pop the belief that we aren’t tanking, but gives us the talent to actually tank. It’s perfect. Pop gets to game plan whatever the fuck he thinks will work (it won’t) and then we lose lots of games. That’s the goal.

It’s not just about tanking. This season, we were finally going to get to see the young guys be the main show and get plenty of minutes. I almost certain Forbes is going to start and one of the young guys will get no playing time as a result

[Eaglenole2002]

This is no defense of Forbes, but I thought NBA front offices don’t believe in defensive analytics when it comes to rating players.

[TheChillFactor]

We played him so much bc the idiots demar and lamarcus didnt understand where the fucking 3 point line is.

If those dumbfucks could have taken a three we never would have started him.
We have more shooting now, I’m not worried about it.

[superbigtime]

WHAT???????????

Spurs are a joke. Unreal.

[ragas]

I hope Brian Wright knows ST. He definitely would have a great time reading this thread and laughing about ST posters.

[Mugen]

I'm 95% sure this means they're going to trade Lonnie for a 2nd rounder, Brian :lol

[J_Paco]

Spurs don't have quality back up PG, not that Bryn is one, so that's likely why this move was made.

If Lonnie is shipped out it's because of all the wings already on the roster (Wieskamp, Vassell, Johnson, White & Primo) and the fact that the team is likely not going to extend him.

Still is a bad decision to bring him back and we can all agree on that point.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Pride
Alcoholism
Timmy-lessness
Fear
Octogenarianism


*edit

[Blackhaus]

1 year deal, I can live with this. I rather the Spurs have cap flexibility next year than Collins tbh

[BillMc]

Bryn opted out of 2.4 million with the Bucks. So, what do you think the Spurs are paying him?

[Blackhaus]

Who cares, if it’s for 1 year I don’t care

[Blackhaus]

Who cares, if it’s for 1 year I don’t care

[MVPCues]

Bryn opted out of 2.4 million with the Bucks. So, what do you think the Spurs are paying him?

3.6 million.

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

TANK

[BillMc]

3.6 million.

Cheers. Is that a guess or do you have some info?

[widowmaker]

I hope he has a career ending injury the first game of the season.

[MVPCues]

Cheers. Is that a guess or do you have some info?

Total guess. I can't imagine it would be less than what he walked away from, don't think the Spurs would double it, so a split the difference kind of thing.

[spurs1990]

Pop always thought Forbes could be Curry and over played him against starters. If he now thinks of Forbes as Patty and runs him like coach Bud did from the bench then maybe it might work. Bottom line is DDR, Gayand Patty minutes will be replaced by more minutes divided by McD. Walker, Vassel, Johnson, Forbes and Jones. White and Murray got their minutes. In the end I feel this is Pop just not willing to give up his small ball fetish and wants to push Johnson back to the PF. Pop needs to be admitted to rehab.

I totally forgot popovich made that asinine comparison but here's their beat reporter describing it

938557766402265089

[lefty]

To be fair, if he was in the Warriors system, Forbes would be an MVP candidate

[SPURt]

I hope Brian Wright knows ST. He definitely would have a great time reading this thread and laughing about ST posters.
Forbes was trending on Twitter, basically the same message he’d get from Spurstalk

[SPURt]

I hope Brian Wright knows ST. He definitely would have a great time reading this thread and laughing about ST posters.
Forbes was trending on Twitter, basically the same message he’d get from Spurstalk

[Robz4000]

:lol I'm still numb. Can't believe this happened.

[koriwhat]

what a shit signing... bringing back forbes is disgusting when you have a coach who wants you to believe his legacy and that of the spurs is defense first.

bryn sucks so damn much on defense that his offense is negated by it.

[SAGirl]

To be fair, if he was in the Warriors system, Forbes would be an MVP candidate
I am sure the warriors could have gotten him two years in a row, he’s bee an UFA signing for very cheap. They DO NOT WANT, so no.

[SAGirl]

what a shit signing... bringing back forbes is disgusting when you have a coach who wants you to believe his legacy and that of the spurs is defense first.

bryn sucks so damn much on defense that his offense is negated by it.
It was all Timmy, as if we didn’t know that already.

[DPG21920]

That quote by Pop lol. Steph lol. Seth is 10x the player Bryn is.

[RC_Drunkford]

this is coming from the same coach who thought Mason Plumlee was a better player than Bam Adebayo :lol

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

Yes Pop play Forbes 40 a night.

TANK

[daslicer]

Yes Pop play Forbes 40 a night.

TANK

I'm fine with this signing only because Pop is going to unintentionally tank by playing this scrub.

[The Truth #6]

You can lose by playing Walker. Playing Forbes is simply further poor asset management.

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

Men, the goal here is to lose more than 60 games next season.

[KobesAchilles]

It’s not just about tanking. This season, we were finally going to get to see the young guys be the main show and get plenty of minutes. I almost certain Forbes is going to start and one of the young guys will get no playing time as a result
Nobody on the team is going to get more than 30 minutes a game. And Forbes sure as hell isn’t starting. And if he is then that is even better. I’m not even sure whose minutes Forbes really cuts. White and DJ are our highest paid so they will be starters. KJ started last year and is our only SF. Forbes is too small to be a 4 or a 5 so I expect McBuckets to be the 4 and Poeltl to be the 5. Vassell is the back up 3. Lonnie the back up SG so that leaves really Forbes as the back up
PG. Are we really going to bitch that Tre isn’t getting minutes? I’m not.

[koriwhat]

It was all Timmy, as if we didn’t know that already.

It's becoming more and more prevalent as time passes too. Pop is washed up and has been for some time now even in the last couple years of Tim Duncan's career.

[RD2191]

And people wonder why Kawhi jumped ship from this shit show. :lol

[rah88sa]

Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

With Lonnie tied at second worst. Oof.

[Cardinal]

Have the details been released yet?

[ElNono]

How I still feel about this 1 day in...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/B2NKwgnvKHD74qPj6Q/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b38ywfp9u69hsouiobjls88u3gcjft wmdzovil7ov&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

updated

[MVPCues]

Men, the goal here is to lose more than 60 games next season.

The problem is that is our goal. It may not be the FO goal. 10th seed, 34 wins.

[baseline bum]

updated

I still feel the same today too

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b9ebfbf0e8060ab57071dea8e537b05c/tenor.gif

[gambit1990]

still no details? i’m guessing 2 years / $10 million…

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

The problem is that is our goal. It may not be the FO goal. 10th seed, 34 wins.

We don’t have to sell season tix and advertising.

[Maddog]

Bryn opted out of 2.4 million with the Bucks. So, what do you think the Spurs are paying him?


Have the details been released yet?

It's hard to imagine it's any significant amount. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't think he's going to be a major contributor minute wise.

I'm finding the amount vitriol with this signing quite humorous

[Sugus]

Well, damn. It's not every day that I wake up to 5 mentions on here, and it's usually bad news... I also got a notification last night, was like "the fuck is my phone letting me know what this dipshit is up to, still?! GTFO..." and paid it no mind. Innocent of me :lol

Everything about this has pretty much been said already, so I'll just quote some amusing things mostly. My god.


Where are Sugus and Mr. Body when you need them? It'd be nice if they came in this thread and started on a " timvp you were wrong about future Hall of Famer Jakob Poeltl and you're wrong about Bryn Forbes -- when you can get a knockdown shooter in today's NBA, you do it and ask questions later -- Forbes is a certified sniper just like Poeltl is a certified HoF who outplayed the entire value of his contract after one game last season" diatribe. There'd be some comfort in possibly thinking I might be wrong about Forbes, tbh.

Lmao RJ, you ain't gonna be so lucky this time. Absolutely no realm where this is a good move. You were wrong about Jak's contract but you're not gonna be so (un)lucky on this one... The first impression is every bit as correct as the second, and third, and so on. I actually think this move is telling that the Spurs have something else up their sleeve.... And I'm not confident in the slightest about what that could be. If you're so desperate for shooting so as to sign Forbes, it can't be good. I'd loathe Simmons on this Spurs team, and I'm really, really, really hoping my gut is wrong on this and Morey keeps him in Philly another season. Or wherever, anywhere, but SanAn...


You cleary don't want to be taken seriously as a basketball writer. You were wrong about Jakob and you are still ignoring the fact that he played up to his contract or even outplayed it. Nobody talked Poeltl into being a HOF, but he's a borderline starter and gets paid for it. I mean I understand your frustation, but there's no need to act like a fool.

I wouldn't be so harsh on RJ's writings, I like them, but you do have a point. It's what I hate about the hyperbolic nature of ST - I too never argued Poeltl as some championship-calibre C. He's just a solid player, who I think is definitely exceeding his contract potential, and is very underrated on this board due to his lack of offensive game. I wish every one of the FO's moves were as good as Jakob's contract... :bang


Holy shit this is what i wake up to?

Just waiting for the doctoral thesis from Sugus explaining how amazing this is

Bad read on how I roll regarding the FO. I don't give a shit about blindly defending people I don't know. I either like the moves the FO makes, or don't, I'm not irrational about it. And this move, is an absolute F, F- if you like. I'd go as far as saying that, the same way the sole move of not bringing DeRozan back made this a successful off-season no matter what (a monkey's paw is smiling at me, somewhere...), the sole move of bringing Forbes back makes this season an unsuccessful one. It literally cost them nothing not to fucking bring him back.... HE WAS ALREADY FUCKING GONE....... SMH

[Sugus]

I'm sure Mr. Body will be in here eventually to semen shield; dude literally called Joe Harris the best roleplayer in the NBA during the postseason and Forbes is basically the same player.

My guy Sugus on the other hand will prolly meltdown with us :lol...

You hit the nail on the head, Robz :tu. I'm absolutely livid at this. No reason, absolutely no reason, no-fucking-reason to do this, other than fucking Pop and his pathological need to have some sort of "pet" on the team at all times. I was almost thinking it was too good to be true that every single one of his pets had been shipped off in the same off-season..... :bang


:lmao at people hating on Wright for this move.

Let’s face it. This wasn’t Wright’s idea. This move is 100% on Pop :lmao3

This also hits the nail on the head. This isn't a Wright move at all, IMO. Just Pop and RC on their bullshit once again. On the one hand, it can shed a "good" light on Wright: he's been pretty consistently undermined as not having "full reigns" on the GM position, so I'm inclined to be more lenient on his tenure as GM thus far and mistakes such as this signing, and Zollins to a lesser extent. On the other hand... It's awful knowing that your GM can be overrun by oldheads who are clearly out of touch with the modern NBA and have their own idea of how to assemble a team. It's extra-bad because, if you could just chalk it up as a "Brian Wrong" move, it'd be easier to wait him out until his own incompetence got him sacked..... How many years will it take for RC & Pop to finally give up the reigns of the team for good? We can literally not know..... Like bad agents, looming on the shadows. Fuck.

Someone bump the "take the car keys away from grandpa" thread, tbh.


nobody is happy with forbes coming back.

Some posters needs to stop the narrative that every guy who supports the FO in some mooves supports them in everything.

Once again, nail on the head. Some posters here get waaay too into this Sniffers vs Exhalers back-and-forth. It's funny to read and engage with at times, but oftentimes, really misguided. At least how I see it. I'll say again that literally the reason I signed up on SpursTalk in the first place, was because this was the most anti-Pop forum I could find at the time. Reddit is disgustingly normie in that regard, same as most Spurs outlets. But anyways.....

Back to the "26 wins for Chet & Pop retirement" train I guess.

[TD 21]

This meltdown is unnecessary. As I said, they needed guard depth and were always going to sign a veteran guard who can shoot.

This isn't a few years ago, when they were trying to remain "competitive", bring the youth along slowly and base their offense around a fringe and pseudo star who refused to modernize their shot profile. He's not starting and probably goes in as the fourth guard.

Since neither him nor Walker IV can run point, it will however limit the amount Murray-White play together, since one will have to sub out mid quarter, so that they can sub back in late quarter for the other to run the second unit.

Jones will still get an opportunity too. They'll also probably sign a PG to a two-way.

[Sugus]

Last thing regarding this awful signing. It's now abundantly clear that the Spurs are tanking next season. In the absolute worst way possible - they've picked a path. There is no way the Spurs are fighting for the playoffs next season with Forbes playing minutes, as if that wasn't unlikely enough already.

Are you finally happy, DPG21920?! You said you weren't so sure the FO had picked a side..... It's abundantly clear now. The monkey paw is somewhere, laughing at every one of us. Y'all wanted tanking.... Boy, we're gonna fucking get it. :depressed :lol

[DAF86]

They are just trolling us at this point :lmao

[PhantomDashCam]

Why would the Spurs give Primo #11 only to bring Forbes back a couple of days later?
This had to be off-script, right?

[Sugus]

Why would the Spurs give Primo #11 only to bring Forbes back a couple of days later?
This had to be off-script, right?

They definitely don't see Primo being able to play any sort of minutes in his rookie season, and will mostly "Lonnie-style" him into riding the bench all game "to gather experience and see the game up close". Even if he ends up playing garbage time, sadly, at the end of the day, Forbes is a :vomit: proven vet shooter :vomit: and Primo just isn't...

[BacktoBasics]

Last thing regarding this awful signing. It's now abundantly clear that the Spurs are tanking next season. In the absolute worst way possible - they've picked a path. There is no way the Spurs are fighting for the playoffs next season with Forbes playing minutes, as if that wasn't unlikely enough already.

Are you finally happy, DPG21920?! You said you weren't so sure the FO had picked a side..... It's abundantly clear now. The monkey paw is somewhere, laughing at every one of us. Y'all wanted tanking.... Boy, we're gonna fucking get it. :depressed :lol

Just to play devils advocate there were/are many here who said this team would be “better” without DDR, Gay and Mills to a lessor extent.

Now that it’s happened, everyone’s gone full tank meltdown.

Either the team is better by subtracting vets or we’re not. I’m not a fan of this off-season but if you look at the roster in a vacuum sans the vets everyone desperately wanted to get rid of and we’re easily better, it’s the same core, is it not.

For the record I think this is a .500 team, maybe just below .500 tbh.

I think we crack the top 10 in the draft, probably not the top 5.

[tonight...you]

I still feel the same today too

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b9ebfbf0e8060ab57071dea8e537b05c/tenor.gif
Ha ha ha ha! That is so bad, yet so funny!!!

[PhantomDashCam]

They definitely don't see Primo being able to play any sort of minutes in his rookie season, and will mostly "Lonnie-style" him into riding the bench all game "to gather experience and see the game up close". Even if he ends up playing garbage time, sadly, at the end of the day, Forbes is a :vomit: proven vet shooter :vomit: and Primo just isn't...

Undoubtedly. Even before the other acquisitions, I thought the G-League was where he was most likely headed.
The Q I have though is sometimes we’re lead to believe, (well maybe it’s just me :lol), that PATFO have planned multiple moves in advance, right?
Why would they give Bryns’ number away days before his return?

I’m probably reading too much into this and Spurs just believed they would never have the “luxury” of Bryn’s services again :lol

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Just to play devils advocate there were/are many here who said this team would be “better” without DDR, Gay and Mills to a lessor extent.

Now that it’s happened, everyone’s gone full tank meltdown.

Either the team is better by subtracting vets or we’re not. I’m not a fan of this off-season but if you look at the roster in a vacuum sans the vets everyone desperately wanted to get rid of and we’re easily better, it’s the same core, is it not.

For the record I think this is a .500 team, maybe just below .500 tbh.

I think we crack the top 10 in the draft, probably not the top 5.

i think most people thought PATFO's acquisitions were shit ... but thought the departures were OK, in terms of now it's time to tank


and then forbes the orb happened ...

[Sugus]

Just to play devils advocate there were/are many here who said this team would be “better” without DDR, Gay and Mills to a lessor extent.

Now that it’s happened, everyone’s gone full tank meltdown.

Either the team is better by subtracting vets or we’re not. I’m not a fan of this off-season but if you look at the roster in a vacuum sans the vets everyone desperately wanted to get rid of and we’re easily better, it’s the same core, is it not.

For the record I think this is a .500 team, maybe just below .500 tbh.

I think we crack the top 10 in the draft, probably not the top 5.

I'm definitely in the camp that thought the team would be better sans DeRozan (Mills and Gay, though flawed, played necessary roles on the team; not replacing them at all would certainly make the team worse, which I don't think is true for DDR due to the team's composition). I said as much in some threads months ago. But I don't mind if the team tanks... This meltdown is completely over how the tank will happen. You can lose giving free reign to the youngings, giving them the opportuinities to make mistakes that they'll hopefully learn from - or you can tank by playing washed vets and Forbes big minutes, while simultaneously hindering the youth. Especially on a Pop-led team, that option can't be discounted - and Forbes' signing makes it all the more looming, tbh.

That's why I'm confident this was a Pop move. At least the suggestion of it and push for it. No way he was letting Forbes go unsigned or staying away from the team for so long... He probably really looks at him like "the little guy that could!" now that he's a champion, and wants that "leadership" and "grittyness" that Forbes "provided" to the Bucks en route to the ring.

I actually still don't think the roster is that bad (maybe a bit below .500), but the thing with actively tanking teams is that their record is often worse than the team itself, because "business decisions" on personnel are made through the season that guarantee losses that might've been Ws had the team not tanked. I really see the Spurs cracking top-5, but it'll take a conscious tanking effort, which I'm starting to doubt Pop is on board with... :depressed

[BackHome]

Just to play devils advocate there were/are many here who said this team would be “better” without DDR, Gay and Mills to a lessor extent.

Now that it’s happened, everyone’s gone full tank meltdown.

Either the team is better by subtracting vets or we’re not. I’m not a fan of this off-season but if you look at the roster in a vacuum sans the vets everyone desperately wanted to get rid of and we’re easily better, it’s the same core, is it not.

For the record I think this is a .500 team, maybe just below .500 tbh.

I think we crack the top 10 in the draft, probably not the top 5.

This team is bad real bad but in a good taking way. Lol. I see White hurt again missing probably 20 to 30 games and will be in top 6 of the draft. The only team worse then us maybe will be Cleveland, OK, and Houston.

[FkLA]

Bro, are you fucking kidding me? Just when you start getting excited about seeing the young guns learn the ropes, this POS pops back up. Wow.

:pctoss

[slick'81]

Forbes should really play his same role in mil. If he sees anything over 15-20 mpg spurs coaching staff really has lost it. In no way does he see more minutes than-murray,white,vassell or lonnie

[Dejounte]

This meltdown is unnecessary. As I said, they needed guard depth and were always going to sign a veteran guard who can shoot.

This isn't a few years ago, when they were trying to remain "competitive", bring the youth along slowly and base their offense around a fringe and pseudo star who refused to modernize their shot profile. He's not starting and probably goes in as the fourth guard.

Since neither him nor Walker IV can run point, it will however limit the amount Murray-White play together, since one will have to sub out mid quarter, so that they can sub back in late quarter for the other to run the second unit.

Jones will still get an opportunity too. They'll also probably sign a PG to a two-way.


shut up apologist

[FkLA]

Obviously what happened is Forbes fell through the free agent cracks (because teams don't want the worst defender in the league, even if he shoots 50% from three-point range) and the Spurs felt sorry for him. Instead of letting him flounder, the Spurs reached out with something like a $6 million olive branch while telling him he will get minutes so he can retry free agency next season.

Pain.

I mean, isn't that pretty much what happened last year? Nobody wanted his sorry ass so Pop had to make a call to Bud to keep his make-a-wish NBA career alive.

[slick'81]

I mean, isn't that pretty much what happened last year? Nobody wanted his sorry ass so Pop had to make a call to Bud to keep his make-a-wish NBA career alive.

yup,and pop bringing his charity case back because he can

[SequSpur]

Why does timvp still think Players play defense. This dude is the best three point shooter in the NBA. He just signed with the Spurs. Championship pedigree. Shit.

[widowmaker]

Forbes should really play his same role in mil. If he sees anything over 15-20 mpg spurs coaching staff really has lost it. In no way does he see more minutes than-murray,white,vassell or lonnie


Forbes is gonna be the starting 2 guard come on now you how this is going to play out.

[widowmaker]

Pop to the front office before he left for the Olympics: “If you see Forbes still on the free agent list bring him back hes got a heart of gold”

[TD 21]

shut up apologist

:lmao Nice try. If the apologists want to play this game, then it only goes to show how unbiased I am.

Unlike you clowns, I don't spin everything (like when you relentlessly bashed Vassell for months, then conveniently did a 180 immediately after they picked him) and act personally offended when people question the almighty PATFO.

[DJR210]

Fucking Brian Wright sucks dick.. Stop supporting this shit until they get rid of this dumb fuck. This is pathetic.

[Dejounte]

:lmao Nice try. If the apologists want to play this game, then it only goes to show how unbiased I am.

Unlike you clowns, I don't spin everything (like when you relentlessly bashed Vassell for months, then conveniently did a 180 immediately after they picked him) and act personally offended when people question the almighty PATFO.

wtf lighten up. It was a joke. Why so serious?

like you said to the other guy… too easy?

remind me to never joke around with you. Good lord. We haven’t had an interaction like this in a year, yet it sounds like you still hold a type of grudge.

[baseline bum]

Ha ha ha ha! That is so bad, yet so funny!!!

It's from a video back when everyone was doing life hacks videos and articles :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgJYUHfW03E

[TD 21]

wtf lighten up. It was a joke. Why so serious?

like you said to the other guy… too easy?

remind me to never joke around with you. Good lord. We haven’t had an interaction like this in a year, yet it sounds like you still hold a type of grudge.

:lmao I wouldn't care either way, but be honest, it wasn't. It was you acting as if I'm a hypocrite.

[MI21]

Seeing Primo is #11 now, hopefully Pop is confused and thinks he's Bryn. Could work out well.

[lefty]

Is the 2022 draft gonna be good?

[baseline bum]

Is the 2022 draft gonna be good?

Does it matter with this front office?

[ThaBigFundamental21]

What in the actual fuck??? What is going on? I can't fathom how bad this FO is. Do they really think this team doesn't have enough guards already? Never have I seen a bigger waste of maximum space!
Pop is going to write a book, "How to spend 50 million dollars and win even fewer games than the previous season."

[ace3g]

Seeing Primo is #11 now, hopefully Pop is confused and thinks he's Bryn. Could work out well.

When I saw he would be wearing #11 for Spurs I thought that was surefire Forbes wouldn't sign here...

[Dejounte]

:lmao I wouldn't care either way, but be honest, it wasn't. It was you acting as if I'm a hypocrite.

nope, I’m being honest. It was straight up a joke that hit a nerve. I dont care either :lmao

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

https://youtu.be/1x68c4So6UU

[TD 21]

nope, I’m being honest. It was straight up a joke that hit a nerve. I dont care either :lmao

Nah, I've seen you play this game before. You're one of those people who attempts to disguise an ignorant comment through humor.

[Dejounte]

Nah, I've seen you play this game before. You're one of those people who attempts to disguise an ignorant comment through humor.

guy, i wouldn't go through the effort of telling you it was a joke if it wasn't. I'm sorry if it looked like an attempt to make you look stupid-- it wasn't. You shouldn't feel that way, and I guess it was an honest mistake. It was a joke - plain and simple. I'm not gaining anything by saying that. This is just a stupid fucking forum where people talk shit. Who cares about reputation?

[TD 21]

guy, i wouldn't go through the effort of telling you it was a joke if it wasn't. I'm sorry if it looked like an attempt to make you look stupid-- it wasn't. You shouldn't feel that way, and I guess it was an honest mistake. It was a joke - plain and simple. I'm not gaining anything by saying that. This is just a stupid fucking forum where people talk shit. Who cares about reputation?

I don't care about that nonsense, my point was about being honest (no good reason not to be). But you say you were/are, so end of story.

[raybies]

dam.. really thought about investing time into games this year... nope...

the human victory cigar is here to lead us to the first pick...

[NASpurs]

Why isn't this piece of shit in the Summer Leauge where he belongs?

[slick'81]

Why isn't this piece of shit in the Summer Leauge where he belongs?

:pop: Because I say so

[rudwick]

Got us a tank commander.

[timvp]

What money did Forbes get, tbh? :lol

My calculations after the DeRozan trade were the Spurs had $6 million. Since then, they absorbed $4 million in the Chandler Hutchinson trade and signed Jock Landale to something. Did Landale get the minimum and Forbes get the room exception of $5 million? Landale for the minimum sounds too good to be true but no way Forbes got the minimum, right?

Right now my guess is Forbes got a two-year, $10 million with the second year being a player option but who knows.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Bryn opted out of 2.4 million with the Bucks. So, what do you think the Spurs are paying him?

Reported deal of 3 years, 45 million...

[CGD]

They’ll flip NBA champion Brent Forbes at the deadline to a contender. Hell, maybe even back to the Nets.

Same for Thad and McBob in my view.

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

Surely they can TANK properly no?

[RC_Drunkford]

What money did Forbes get, tbh? :lol

My calculations after the DeRozan trade were the Spurs had $6 million. Since then, they absorbed $4 million in the Chandler Hutchinson trade and signed Jock Landale to something. Did Landale get the minimum and Forbes get the room exception of $5 million? Landale for the minimum sounds too good to be true but no way Forbes got the minimum, right?

Right now my guess is Forbes got a two-year, $10 million with the second year being a player option but who knows.

my guess would be bi-annual exception 3.9 Million or parts of it

[timvp]

my guess would be bi-annual exception 3.9 Million or parts of it

Pretty sure they can't use that exception since they went under the cap.

[buttsR4rebounding]

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[MVPCues]

What money did Forbes get, tbh? :lol

My calculations after the DeRozan trade were the Spurs had $6 million. Since then, they absorbed $4 million in the Chandler Hutchinson trade and signed Jock Landale to something. Did Landale get the minimum and Forbes get the room exception of $5 million? Landale for the minimum sounds too good to be true but no way Forbes got the minimum, right?

Right now my guess is Forbes got a two-year, $10 million with the second year being a player option but who knows.

I hope that is not one of your better guesses.

[DPG21920]

What money did Forbes get, tbh? :lol

My calculations after the DeRozan trade were the Spurs had $6 million. Since then, they absorbed $4 million in the Chandler Hutchinson trade and signed Jock Landale to something. Did Landale get the minimum and Forbes get the room exception of $5 million? Landale for the minimum sounds too good to be true but no way Forbes got the minimum, right?

Right now my guess is Forbes got a two-year, $10 million with the second year being a player option but who knows.

What did Forbes do to deserve a raise in general, but especially from the Spurs in their situation? If you said SA did him a favor since his market dried up, how on Earth could the favor be a raise AND player option?? That doesn’t make sense to me. If that’s the case, it was not a favor; they really valued him.

[slick'81]

What did Forbes do to deserve a raise in general, but especially from the Spurs in their situation? If you said SA did him a favor since his market dried up, how on Earth could the favor be a raise AND player option?? That doesn’t make sense to me. If that’s the case, it was not a favor; they really valued him.


We know pop values him

[Dennis the Menace]

Protesting and activism is our only hope

[ace3g]

It's not too late for Forbes to pull a Marcus Morris.

[slick'81]

It's not too late for Forbes to pull a Marcus Morris.

:lol
Too bad bryn loves sa

[Gagnrath]

I only recall four players who had a 2nd stint on the Spurs - Vernon Maxwell, Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott and Stephen Jackson.

Now this piece of **** is added to that the list of actual NBA players.

We got 82 starts with this scrub rubbing his soles on defense to look forward to.

Kerr.

[Biggems]

CREAM Team :depressed

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Biggems]

this is what we get when we over celebrate the exits of Gay, DDR, and Mills......Pop saw our jubilation when he visited ST and decided to troll the fuck out of all of us.

Murphy's fucking Law for Spurs Nation

[Dennis the Menace]

He is the worst defensive player in the NBA. And he’s going to eat minutes from the actual future.

[KobesAchilles]

Dude is a back up player in a position of need. We actually do need a back up guard. Also Pop is traveling all around the country for 3/4ths the year and if he wants a guy he can get along with them so be it. Believe it or not but being a good locker room guy does help.

Buuuut once Derrick White gets injured again a shit ton of people here are gonna be so angry bc Forbes will be starting over Lonnie. I can’t wait for that to happen :lol

[Borosai]

Took a number of years, but the FO has completed the transition from one of the best to one of the worst.
WTF is going on? They haven't been able to rebuild/reload since Leonard, and they can't tank either. It's somewhere in the middle where they re-sign Forbes. :yield

At least the Bills finally got their house in order, so I can focus on that.

[ezau]

Dude just ring-chased and went back ala Lebron. :lol

[Das Texan]

https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380916115ra/3228051.gif

[Robz4000]

Every time I see this thread my heart fills with rage.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If he is a fringe end of bench guy then fine.

If he gets minutes this place will melt down.

[XDT76]

I only hope the Spurs don't use up all the cap space and sign him using an exception. This will affect any possible FA signing next year.

[Em-City]

We just drafted a guard in the lottery and we are tanking