Official 2021 NBA Offseason and 2021-2022 NBA Season Thread

[lefty]

Lol Paul

[Robz4000]

Feel good that the non jokic nuggets actually played like actual nba players for once. The warriors are just tough to beat especially when green can get away with so much on defence. I still think the Celtics can match up with the warriors very well and wanted to see a how a Thompson green tag team can do to slow down Tatum. Tatum is playing like the best player in the league right now against the nets, but a more disciplined team like the warriors or Miami may be able to slow him down which at that point brown and smart would have to step up.

Dubs look good right now due to the Nuggets being dogshit outside Jokic tbh.

[Thread]

Feel good that the non jokic nuggets actually played like actual nba players for once. The warriors are just tough to beat especially when green can get away with so much on defence. I still think the Celtics can match up with the warriors very well and wanted to see a how a Thompson green tag team can do to slow down Tatum. Tatum is playing like the best player in the league right now against the nets, but a more disciplined team like the warriors or Miami may be able to slow him down which at that point brown and smart would have to step up.

Hope this all comes true, amb.

[Brazil]

https://twitter.com/tyhating/status/1518046587745882112

:lmao that aged well

[FrostKing]

Final 12 minutes of Steve Nash's coaching career

[ambchang]

I’m just shocked that the nets suck this bad.

Also, rooting for the raptors to come back and win the series. I really want to see harden out choke himself and be the first guy to lose a series after you 0-3

[MultiTroll]

NetsRef keeping Nyets in by fouling out Tatum with a super bogus offensive charge against Dragic flop.

[lefty]

:lol Scott Foster
:lol Stern Jr

[FrostKing]

Pippen > Durant

[lefty]

Pippen > Jordan

[baseline bum]

:lol Scott Foster
:lol Stern Jr

Should have known Scott Foster was part of this garbage. LOL Nets

[baseline bum]

LOL Durant with the statpad three

[lefty]

LOL Durant with the statpad three

Marcus Smart let him shoot because he knew Foster would blow the whistle

[mystargtr34]

Posted this upstairs but better here.

Durant should request a trade tbh. You cannot rely on Kyrie to play more than 60 games and worst case he can find another excuse to not show up for half a season.

You certainly can’t rely on Ben Simmons, the most pathetic and mentally fragile player in NBA history.

Outside of those ‘Big 3’ the Nets have no cap room, no draft picks and a bunch of old washed up veterans.

Does Durant really want to waste the last 2-3 years he has left of being a number 1 option on that team?

Maybe he requests a trade to LA and teams up with Lebron. The Lakers can send fragile ass Anthony Davis to the Nets. Maybe the Clippers would be willing to ship Kawhi’s ass out of town also straight up for KD.

Sometning to keep an eye on imo

[MultiTroll]

Boston is pretty stupid in end of game situations.
Ahead 3:
Smart going for that steal in the backcourt and fouling Durbetta to stop the clock while giving FTs is sub zero BBIQ.

Next they only need to dribble out the clock and Smart or Brown go for the hero layup and miss. Very lucky O rebound putback by i think Big Al.

Pop coaching tree? :lol

[Chris Fall]

Damn how much is Jalen Brunson going to cost Cuban this summer? Pretty sure he's unrestricted too so Mavs have no rights and can't lowball him.

He's made a few extra million just from this series alone

[Neo.]

if Jalen can play well against longer and better defenders in Phoenix, then it's definitely well earned. but if he struggles mightily again like he did against the clippers, then it's a bit tougher, but you still gotta pay him.

tbh as awesome as he's been, any good scorer should be able to dominate Mitchell and Clarkson:lol

[mystargtr34]

Brunson gonna get 4 years $100m I rekon.

[Chris Fall]

if Jalen can play well against longer and better defenders in Phoenix, then it's definitely well earned. but if he struggles mightily again like he did against the clippers, then it's a bit tougher, but you still gotta pay him.

tbh as awesome as he's been, any good scorer should be able to dominate Mitchell and Clarkson:lol

I thought Utah was a solid defensive team. Why do all their perimeter defenders bite on shot fakes? Like out their shoes, they bite on pump fakes. And against little Brunson who's a midget?? Even their bigger wings bite hard.

[Neo.]

I thought Utah was a solid defensive team. Why do all their perimeter defenders bite on shot fakes? Like out their shoes, they bite on pump fakes. And against little Brunson who's a midget?? Even their bigger wings bite hard.

gobert almost singlehandedly makes them solid defensively. he's just amazing, especially when Mitchell and Clarkson are beyond pathetic. bojan is average at best, and Royce is slightly above average but kinda weak and getting bullied by Jalen and Luka. Conley has definitely fallen off defensively as well.

[mystargtr34]

I thought Utah was a solid defensive team. Why do all their perimeter defenders bite on shot fakes? Like out their shoes, they bite on pump fakes. And against little Brunson who's a midget?? Even their bigger wings bite hard.

Two 6'2 guards in the back court doesn't help. Can't contest shots on the perimeter effectively, or mid range shots. If they don't blow it up in Utah they need to move Mitchell to the 1 and pair him with a bigger 2 guard who can also handle and play make. Similar to what NO has done with CJ. Move on from Conley, he's washed.

[mystargtr34]

What did Gobert do to Doncic lol Luka keeps talking shit to him and staring him down every time he goes near him.

Or is it just the general Rudy hate like the rest of the NBA.

[Neo.]

What did Gobert do to Doncic lol Luka keeps talking shit to him and staring him down every time he goes near him.

Or is it just the general Rudy hate like the rest of the NBA.

I think he knows how mentally weak he can be and is just trying to break him

[lefty]

lol Philly lucky Barnes missed 3 games

[lefty]

What did Gobert do to Doncic lol Luka keeps talking shit to him and staring him down every time he goes near him.

Or is it just the general Rudy hate like the rest of the NBA.

Gobert had his usual pre-game fap and some of his juice accidentally ended up on a world map poster, on Slovenia to be exact.

[daslicer]

Posted this upstairs but better here.

Durant should request a trade tbh. You cannot rely on Kyrie to play more than 60 games and worst case he can find another excuse to not show up for half a season.

You certainly can’t rely on Ben Simmons, the most pathetic and mentally fragile player in NBA history.

Outside of those ‘Big 3’ the Nets have no cap room, no draft picks and a bunch of old washed up veterans.

Does Durant really want to waste the last 2-3 years he has left of being a number 1 option on that team?

Maybe he requests a trade to LA and teams up with Lebron. The Lakers can send fragile ass Anthony Davis to the Nets. Maybe the Clippers would be willing to ship Kawhi’s ass out of town also straight up for KD.

Sometning to keep an eye on imo

I have a hot take, but I think Durant's prime is over. In this series he looked like he lost a step. He had a very hard time taking guys off the dribble. Part of that is the Celtics great defense but the other part is that he lost a step. He will still be an all-star caliber player, but his best days are now behind him and we will only get worse.

[mystargtr34]

I have a hot take, but I think Durant's prime is over. In this series he looked like he lost a step. He had a very hard time taking guys off the dribble. Part of that is the Celtics great defense but the other part is that he lost a step. He will still be an all-star caliber player, but his best days are now behind him and we will only get worse.

I actually agree with you. Was saying the same thing to myself that it’s a combination of the defense and him losing half a step. I also think his supporting cast is absolute dog shot and there’s no relief valve for him on offense. I mean Bruce brown just clogs the paint no matter how good he is at cutting and shooting floaters. Curry and Irving are both small so while they space the floor both can be closed out on the perimeter by defenders who help on Durant. Drummond and Claxton are useless outside of 3 feet.

We also gotta remember Durant is 34 in a few months, has had an Achilles injury and foot problems.

Still think he can be 1a/1b offensive option on a championship team for the next 2 seasons provided the supporting case and role players are good (shooting and defense) outside of him and the other 1a/1b guy. I think he asks for a trade to either LA team or maybe even Dallas to play with Luka. Golden State is an option (combination of Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, picks).

[Mark Celibate]

going to suck to see Brunson leave tbh I immediately liked the guy after watching him in college and always wondered why he wasn't a lottery pick. Being a Mavs fan who is used to disappointment, I know Cuban will probably bring in someone with veteran savvy like Jose Calderon as his replacement next year or Devin Harris for the fifth time...oh well it was fun while it lasted

[Isitjustme?]

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[Dirks_Finale]

going to suck to see Brunson leave tbh I immediately liked the guy after watching him in college and always wondered why he wasn't a lottery pick. Being a Mavs fan who is used to disappointment, I know Cuban will probably bring in someone with veteran savvy like Jose Calderon as his replacement next year or Devin Harris for the fifth time...oh well it was fun while it lasted

:lol

Cubes has been in Shark tank/bargain mode since the title. Always searching for a good bargain over building a powerhouse. Hopefuly he makes some moves and we actually keep Brunson, but not holding my breath.

[Texas_Ranger]

Cmon Trae Young step the fuck up. They are playing without butler and lowry.

[baseline bum]

Man WTF Memphis? LOL Jackson fouling out on Towns on a 3 down 8 in the fourth.

[Texas_Ranger]

Minnesota is a nice choke team.

[lefty]

Wolves and Edwards with all those stupid iso plays :lol

[baseline bum]

LOL DBust

[lefty]

:lmao Russell

[lefty]

IS:lol Edwards 3 or pick and pop KAT 3 after the time out?

[baseline bum]

Wolves have to trade Russell this summer, he's so worthless. Thank god they gave the shot to Edwards instead there.

[lefty]

This game lol

[lefty]

:lmao Edwards

[Texas_Ranger]

Memphis looks way worse than they should be. They were the hottest team the last 2 months. I expected this to be over in max 5 games. They can even be lucky that Minnesota is pretty much retarded.

[MultiTroll]

:lmao Edwards


Memphis looks way worse than they should be. They were the hottest team the last 2 months. I expected this to be over in max 5 games. They can even be lucky that Minnesota is pretty much retarded.
Just catching highlights.
WTH was that Hero Ball defensive steal attempt by Edwards? Goodness.

[Neo.]

Memphis looks way worse than they should be. They were the hottest team the last 2 months. I expected this to be over in max 5 games. They can even be lucky that Minnesota is pretty much retarded.

imo the grizz really aren't super talented tbh, just a ton of great athletes and good role definition

minny is easily a more talented team imo, but far inferior on knowing their roles and intangibles

[Robz4000]

imo the grizz really aren't super talented tbh, just a ton of great athletes and good role definition

minny is easily a more talented team imo, but far inferior on knowing their roles and intangibles

This tbh. Also comes down to matchups, with Minny being a bad one for Memphis.

Assuming the Grizz close this out I think they give the Dubs fits, albeit I think the Dubs win in 6.

[MultiTroll]

Do the Nuggets stand a chance in Game 5 vs Warriors / Donkey Refs?

[Chris Fall]

Gotta believe Nuggets are done tonight. Would probably take an other worldly performance by Joker, like something like a 40 point triple double type game, along with Gordon and Barton/Morris giving great games as well to extend the series.

The PNR attack on Jokic is really tough. If they don't switch, Curry probably gets a lot of clean looks on threes. If they trap, the Warriors are smart enough and good enough to get the easy lay-up or two passes later get a wide open three for guys like Poole or Klay. It's a no win for the Nuggets no matter how they choose to defend it so long as the Warriors hit their open threes. And they hit their open threes like no other team.

[gambit1990]

i think the nuggets are done tonight... would love to be wrong though.

[ambchang]

Elimination game, derozan sucks. Goes together like cookies and cream.

[Brazil]

Elimination game, derozan sucks. Goes together like cookies and cream.

:lol

[MultiTroll]

Hands part of the ball ref.
Joker just called for a foul instead of getting a steal.
A call Donkey turd gets 10 of 10Xs.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Holy shit the just let Green take 4 full steps in a moving screen

[MultiTroll]

Sweet ending to 3rd.
Cousins bringing some spine and effort and it's rubbing off on other Nuggets.

[baseline bum]

Payton just bailing Raymond out of Ben Simmonsing that layup

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1519653754794131456

[JamStone]

I know Denver has not been a good defensive team. And I know most nights, teams try to stop Steph and Klay and make other guys beat them. But I don’t get the defensive strategy of if it’s not Steph, Klay, and I guess Poole now too, don’t even go out and put a hand up to contest. Gary Payton’s two corner threes, his defender wasn’t even a primary help defender. He was just shading in the paint. Payton got the ball, and they didn’t even pretend to go out to close and contest. Just have a wide open corner three. What kind of defensive strategy is that? It’s not like they were doubling and trapping. They just left him wide open. Like wtf is that?

Some of those Nuggets players aren’t good defenders. And Gordon who is supposed to be an above average defender just plays stupid on defense sometimes. But the coaching does them no favors.

[Texas_Ranger]

Hoping to see cock rivers fuck up tonight so it goes 7.
Utah also better win, cause if not that franchise is over.

[MultiTroll]

Hoping to see cock rivers fuck up tonight so it goes 7.
Utah also better win, cause if not that franchise is over.
but but but the Sniffers are wanting Synder after Grandpa disappears in 2032.

[MultiTroll]

Herb Jones whom some of you were raving about his D.
For those recording at home, check out 4th qtr
Pels 104 Suns 103
absolute key possession with 1:49 left in game.
Ya, that really happened.

*Wish my tech skills didn't suck so much, don't know how to capture from DVR to SpursTalk.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1519653754794131456

Damn that would have been such an epic series with Middleton, prob would have taken Bucks in 7, but gotta take Celtics in 6 now.

[MultiTroll]

^ Celts still entirely capable of low IQing a couple close games into L's.

[lefty]

:lol Paul went 14/14 , damn, and not a single layup

Also 4/4 from the FT line

[Texas_Ranger]

Shams - Sources: 76ers All-NBA star Joel Embiid suffered a right orbital fracture and mild concussion in series-clinching Game 6 win last night in Toronto. He will be listed as out and there is no timetable for his return.


Trust the process

[Robz4000]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1520202732220698626

[MultiTroll]

Shams - Sources: 76ers All-NBA star Joel Embiid suffered a right orbital fracture and mild concussion in series-clinching Game 6 win last night in Toronto. He will be listed as out and there is no timetable for his return.


Trust the process


https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1520202732220698626
Hit with intent to injure?

[MultiTroll]

Coc Cockovich leaving Embiid in the game up 20 with 4 minutes to go.
In a chlnching game.

[mystargtr34]

:lol Paul went 14/14 , damn, and not a single layup

Also 4/4 from the FT line

People the on CP3 a lot but that was a fucking incredible performance.

[MultiTroll]

People the on CP3 a lot but that was a fucking incredible performance.
I hate the phucker but 14-14 is good.
The offensive foul where he smacked the Pel then shot was total b.s. but CPO has so obviously taken it up the ass from many a ref in exchange.
Except for Scott Foster. :lol CP0 must have never telephoned him the next morning.

[FrostKing]

I'll remember Chris Paul as floor general. Ultimately what you seek in a PG. His use of pace is so important in roundball and never more forgotten than today.

Paul vs Isiah would be interesting. I would ultimately take Paul over Kidd because Jason's jump shot was limited for much of his career. Curry I do not consider a PG.

[MultiTroll]

I'll remember Chris Paul as floor general. Ultimately what you seek in a PG. His use of pace is so important in roundball and never more forgotten than today.

Paul vs Isiah would be interesting. I would ultimately take Paul over Kidd because Jason's jump shot was limited for much of his career. Curry I do not consider a PG.
He kills the pace too often and has a dribble dribbble dribble too much.
Phoenix should be a run and gun transition team.
He self absorbs that too often.
Wont ever rang imo.

Sorry he got hurt and phucked by refs when on Houston vs Warriorettes.
Very glad to see Greek Freak deny him again.

[FrostKing]

He kills the pace too often and has a dribble dribbble dribble too much.
Phoenix should be a run and gun transition team.
He self absorbs that too often.
Wont ever rang imo.

Sorry he got hurt and phucked by refs when on Houston vs Warriorettes.
Very glad to see Greek Freak deny him again.
His ball domination doesn't matter when he has 90% shooting percentage in the 4th. Don't Suns have a classic 5?

Retrospect history does not judge Griffin and DeAndre well.

[MultiTroll]

His ball domination doesn't matter when he has 90% shooting percentage in the 4th. Don't Suns have a classic 5?

Retrospect history does not judge Griffin and DeAndre well.
90% 4th qtr.
Eh?

[Isitjustme?]

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[lefty]

1520183323829616640

some ugly ass jerseys in there

:lol nostalgia

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/r7cFfZN/hawks-fernando-medinajpg.jpg

[MultiTroll]

Freak mopping the floor with the Celtics.

Tatum :lol

[lefty]

Shitty play calling for Memphis at the end of game 1 :lol


Klay missing both free throws and they don’t capitalize:lol

[Brazil]

some ugly ass jerseys in there

:lol nostalgia

:lol dat raptors, grizz, jazz, rockets are awful... I like pistons, sixers for instance

[Neo.]

1520183323829616640
:lol half of those are absolute trash

[lefty]

:lol dat raptors, grizz, jazz, rockets are awful... I like pistons, sixers for instance
Just before the 95/96 season started, Barkley, still a Suns player, made fun of the new Rockets jerseys/court desgn and their marketing team :lol

A year later, he was traded to Houston and had to wear that awful jersey and play half of his games on that court :lol

[Chris Fall]

So this Harden thing losing a step, when he drives he still hooks arms to make it look like he's getting fouled. That's not new. But now on drives, he uses the basketball and pushes it into the body of the defender to get them off balanced. Just did it like twice that I saw. Total bush league shit. Is that a new thing? One of his new tricks for being fat and slow and old now?

[horseshue]

Maxi kleber needs more help.

[Brazil]

Just before the 95/96 season started, Barkley, still a Suns player, made fun of the new Rockets jerseys/court desgn and their marketing team :lol

A year later, he was traded to Houston and had to wear that awful jersey and play half of his games on that court :lol

:lol

[lefty]

Scoot Foster to officiate game 2 of Grizz- Warriors

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRPfEUNUcAgjSXs?format=jpg&name=900x900

[MultiTroll]

Scoot Foster to officiate game 2 of Grizz- Warriors
Where is Scooter at on this one? Didn't he always identify as Warrior in the collusion years?

[MultiTroll]

Bane yes or no?

Does Memphis have a chance if Bane is out or 70% or less?

[Robz4000]

Bane yes or no?

Does Memphis have a chance if Bane is out or 70% or less?

Nah, need Bane to play well to win tbh. Morant getting more shots is bad for Memphis.

[FrostKing]

Grizzlies

Tony Allen and no jump Randolph


NBA fun without Lakers/Lebron tbh. No big markets no care. Lets go fellas

[Brazil]

:lol Warriors... karma is a fucking bitch... delicious to see those tears

[lefty]

:lol Warriors... karma is a fucking bitch... delicious to see those tears
:lol Kerr complaining about a dirty play, the irony

[Brazil]

:lol Kerr complaining about a dirty play, the irony

:lmao tbh... dude is shameless

[Isitjustme?]

That Dillon Brooks shit was beyond dirty

[Brazil]

That Dillon Brooks shit was beyond dirty

he learned it watching Green tapes

[Isitjustme?]

he learned it watching Green tapes

Um, ok. not sure how thats relevant unless you're really dumb and hopelessly lost in a maze of moral relativism. If ur trolling, fine then..got me.

[lefty]

Draymond

Zaza


Kerr should just STFU

[Brazil]

Um, ok. not sure how thats relevant unless you're really dumb and hopelessly lost in a maze of moral relativism. If ur trolling, fine then..got me.

relativism ? :lol

just saying that Kerr is the last who should complain about dirty plays knowing his teams are full of dirty players... I did not hear him crying when zaza ended up kawhi run or green punching people in the face

[Brazil]

Draymond

Zaza


Kerr should just STFU

maybe isitjustyou

[lefty]

Now I understand why Jordan punched Kerr tbh

[Isitjustme?]

relativism ? :lol

yeah, moral relativism. It's what this is here:



just saying that Kerr is the last who should complain about dirty plays knowing his teams are full of dirty players... I did not hear him crying when zaza ended up kawhi run or green punching people in the face

How about Gary Payton II? A guy who lived in his father's shadow and had to play for I think 9 G-League teams before he could find a team willing to give him playing time and a shot and who is kind of built to be a point guard defender and is now probably out of the playoffs. Alright if he is upset or if people are upset for him getting mauled by one of the dirtiest piece of shit players in the league or nah?

[Brazil]

yeah, moral relativism. It's what this is here:


How about Gary Payton II? A guy who lived in his father's shadow and had to play for I think 9 G-League teams before he could find a team willing to give him playing time and a shot and who is kind of built to be a point guard defender and is now probably out of the playoffs. Alright if he is upset or if people are upset for him getting mauled by one of the dirtiest piece of shit players in the league or nah?

nobody is talking about Payton, dude has all the right to be upset. We are talking about Kerr complaining when he coached and is coaching two of dirtiest players in the league and did nothing to stop them ruining PO runs of other players including spurs chances at a title so go fuck yourself with relativism

[JamStone]

An injury result doesn’t make a play or a player dirty.

The problem I had with Kerr in one of his statements was that he said he wasn’t sure if it was “intentional but it was dirty.” To me, that comment made no sense. Maybe I have a different definition, but dirty implies intent. If it was a dirty play, then Kerr is implying he thought the play was intentional. I think the distinction needs to be made.

There’s a difference between reckless and dirty. Brooks’ play was reckless. Doesn’t mean it was dirty.

If we compare to the Draymond jersey pull, the severity of the physical contact can be viewed as a difference, at least visually. Getting whacked in the side of the head by an arm, full force from a big wind up looks egregious. While a tug on the jersey doesn’t have the same visual impact. But to me, the jersey pull was the dirtier play. You have to intentionally close your fist and grab a jersey to make that play. That to me shows intent. Draymond was intentionally, purposefully trying to pull the dude down with a jersey grab. You don’t accidentally grab a fist full of jersey. Comparatively, it’s just opinion, but I believe Brooks was trying to make an honest play at the ball, or at least trying to get to the hand/wrist area to make a common foul.

These world class athletes jumping and suddenly getting jerked down by the jersey is an injury waiting to happen. Once Clarke landed, he could have easily had a bad ankle injury or a sprain to the ACL, MCL. There was enough force and impact on the landing to tear one of those ligaments. But lucky, no injury. And for those NBA analyst blowhards that said but Draymond tried to catch him, bullshit. He made a motion to try to brace his fall AFTER both of Clarke’s feet hit the ground. It’s like slamming on the breaks after you hit a wall. On the flipside, Payton could have landed without trying to brace his fall with his arm, and maybe he doesn’t break anything. Just have a bruised bum. Then that play is just a really bad, reckless foul, maybe still a flagrant 1. Hell, maybe they still determine it as excessive and he still gets a flagrant 2 and ejection. But there's no debate about a suspension. The injury with Payton and no injury to Clarke is probably the main difference in punishment. But the injury doesn’t make the play dirty, and vice versa, no injury doesn’t mean a play is not dirty.

[Isitjustme?]

nobody is talking about Payton, dude has all the right to be upset. We are talking about Kerr complaining when he coached and is coaching two of dirtiest players in the league and did nothing to stop them ruining PO runs of other players including spurs chances at a title so go fuck yourself with relativism
I dont give two shits about that aspect. Came in here to complain about what a bitch Brooks is.

By your logic tho, everyone in the league should be dirty then since no one could complain. Guys could be decking each other Kermit Washington style 2x a game
but hey, how about when blah blah blah, blah blah,,,""

[140]

Holy shit the amount of drama over that play :lmao it was nothing more than your run of the mill playoff foul, shouldn't even be a flagrant let alone worth a suspension tbh

t:loldays NBA

[Brazil]

Holy shit the amount of drama over that play :lmao it was nothing more than your run of the mill playoff foul, shouldn't even be a flagrant let alone worth a suspension tbh

t:loldays NBA

:cry but but relativism :cry

[lefty]

Holy shit the amount of drama over that play :lmao it was nothing more than your run of the mill playoff foul, shouldn't even be a flagrant let alone worth a suspension tbh

t:loldays NBA
They were calling flagrants for ticky tac fouls in the 90s :lol
Thinking yesterday’s NBA was tougher :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

They were calling flagrants for ticky tac fouls in the 90s :lol
Thinking yesterday’s NBA was tougher :lol

Because it was...

[ambchang]

They were calling flagrants for ticky tac fouls in the 90s :lol
Thinking yesterday’s NBA was tougher :lol

Only for jordan

[lefty]

Because it was...
No :lol

3:32 to 4:40

13:51

Those are super soft flagrants

:lol Nostalgia

https://youtu.be/qPBz3_Jgd-U

[Dirks_Finale]

No :lol

3:32 to 4:40

13:51

Those are super soft flagrants

:lol Nostalgia

https://youtu.be/qPBz3_Jgd-U

Anecdotals :lol

[baseline bum]

God damn Tatum played like a little bitch today

[Texas_Ranger]

people really comparing Tatutm to Doncic... Almost was saved by ancient Horford. ROFLMAO... if Luka has a game like this Dallas would never be close to winning.

[lefty]

Anecdotals :lol
No it was always like that, you just don’t want to admit it :lol

[Killakobe81]

people really comparing Tatutm to Doncic... Almost was saved by ancient Horford. ROFLMAO... if Luka has a game like this Dallas would never be close to winning.

I like Tatum but that is a fact …
But Celtics are a much better defensive team they can absorb a bad game from their star and compete

[lefty]

Mavs refs making sure the series go the distance. :lol

[Rosewood]

Anecdotals :lol


lol he does that shit constantly.

[ambchang]

No :lol

3:32 to 4:40

13:51

Those are super soft flagrants

:lol Nostalgia

https://youtu.be/qPBz3_Jgd-U

The only reason the pistons and Knicks were “dirty” was because they were in Jordan’s way.

[lefty]

The only reason the pistons and Knicks were “dirty” was because they were in Jordan’s way.
And Jordan whined to Stern because the Pistons where too physical for him

but he was tough according to his stans

[Texas_Ranger]

Congrats on getting that Russell Westbrook MVP

Woj - Denver Nuggets center Nikola Jokic has been voted the NBA’s Most Valuable Player for a second consecutive season, sources tell ESPN. A formal announcement is expected this week.

[lefty]

Congrats on getting that Russell Westbrook MVP

Woj - Denver Nuggets center Nikola Jokic has been voted the NBA’s Most Valuable Player for a second consecutive season, sources tell ESPN. A formal announcement is expected this week.
Well deserved imo
Carried a shorthanded team to the playoffs

[Chris Fall]

Jokic more deserving than the other finalists tbh.

But it does put pressure on him to get something done in the playoffs going forward, regardless of teammate injuries. He has to make a Dirk like 2011 run at some point, the sooner the better. Or he’ll be viewed historically like a weak MVP, especially considering the B2B.

[TDfan2007]

I really thought this was Embiid's year. He carried a team and played on both ends. *Shrug*

[Dirks_Finale]

New revelations about the GOAT. He accomplished all that stuff -




[*=center]14x All Star
[*=center]10x Scoring Champ
[*=center]3x STL Champ
[*=center]6x NBA Champ
[*=center]11x All-NBA
[*=center]1984-85 All-Rookie
[*=center]1984-85 ROY
[*=center]9x All-Defensive
[*=center]3x AS MVP
[*=center]1987-88 Def. POY
[*=center]5x MVP
[*=center]6x Finals MVP
[*=center]NBA 75th Anniv. Team

...without sleep and often times without eating. :worthy::worthy::worthy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvzvFJTqe_k

[*=center]14x All Star
[*=center]10x Scoring Champ
[*=center]3x STL Champ
[*=center]6x NBA Champ
[*=center]11x All-NBA
[*=center]1984-85 All-Rookie
[*=center]1984-85 ROY
[*=center]9x All-Defensive
[*=center]3x AS MVP
[*=center]1987-88 Def. POY
[*=center]5x MVP
[*=center]6x Finals MVP
[*=center]NBA 75th Anniv. Team

[Neo.]

you have a really weird obsession :rollin

[lefty]

Damn all that while needing special rules to do it and against math teachers :lol

[MultiTroll]

PC phaggots are out in full force supporting Mouthbreather because a weatherman called him a "knuckle dragger."
Sthevie Kerr also had time to comment, altho refused to comment on Pooles foul on Ja.

Local TV Meteorologist In Memphis Sparks Furor With Racist Comments About Warriors’ Draymond Green (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/local-tv-meteorologist-in-memphis-sparks-furor-with-racist-comments-about-warriors-draymond-green/ar-AAX4XkB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c7712af982c84965964859cb4696aa25)

[Texas_Ranger]

PC phaggots are out in full force supporting Mouthbreather because a weatherman called him a "knuckle dragger."
Sthevie Kerr also had time to comment, altho refused to comment on Pooles foul on Ja.

Local TV Meteorologist In Memphis Sparks Furor With Racist Comments About Warriors’ Draymond Green (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/local-tv-meteorologist-in-memphis-sparks-furor-with-racist-comments-about-warriors-draymond-green/ar-AAX4XkB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c7712af982c84965964859cb4696aa25)

draymond sure cries a lot for someone thats ''tough''. Luckies role player ever.

[baseline bum]

LOL Boston blew their shot at the Finals in Game 3. Looks like we'll see a rematch.

[Texas_Ranger]

Boston being carried by Al Horford in 2022... Holy fuck, Tatum, step the fuck up.

[baseline bum]

Or not LOL

[Robz4000]

Horford and White saved Boston's season tonight.

[lefty]

Horford went nuclear after Giannis stared him down :lol

[mystargtr34]

I’m in the minority but I really don’t like Giannis. He’s low key dirty and reckless. So many plays where he is close to injuring or hurting players. Stepping under Kyrie last year. The elbow on Tatums dunk last game that could have ruined him. I was glad to see Horford crack him with that elbow on that dunk.

Hate his game aswell. Dude plays running back barrelling through defenders and any time the defender pushes back and stands his ground the zebras blow the fucking whistle.

[Texas_Ranger]

I’m in the minority but I really don’t like Giannis. He’s low key dirty and reckless. So many plays where he is close to injuring or hurting players. Stepping under Kyrie last year. The elbow on Tatums dunk last game that could have ruined him. I was glad to see Horford crack him with that elbow on that dunk.

Hate his game aswell. Dude plays running back barrelling through defenders and any time the defender pushes back and stands his ground the zebras blow the fucking whistle.

Thats why he is horrible when he plays for greece. I also think when his atleticism goes a bit away hes fucked, especially if he will still not know how to shoot.

[Brazil]

Horford went nuclear after Giannis stared him down :lol

I always liked Horford tbh he is a nice unselfish player with a nice touch a bit old school but on a good way... sucks he only played for meh teams his whole career.

[Brazil]

I’m in the minority but I really don’t like Giannis. He’s low key dirty and reckless. So many plays where he is close to injuring or hurting players. Stepping under Kyrie last year. The elbow on Tatums dunk last game that could have ruined him. I was glad to see Horford crack him with that elbow on that dunk.

Hate his game aswell. Dude plays running back barrelling through defenders and any time the defender pushes back and stands his ground the zebras blow the fucking whistle.

Same can be said about Shaq tbh...

[JamStone]

Tbh Freak is as difficult a player to officiate as guys like Shaq and LeBron, maybe more difficult in some ways. His size and strength and length, and then his awkwardness and aggressiveness in combination are all impossible to defend. Play him too tight and his elbows and forearms are in your face and neck. Give him just a little space, and he can literally step around you and make a lay-up with one stride and hardly leaving the floor. I think you can call an offensive foul on him on most of his drives where there’s physicality by tough, tightly contested defense. He loves to dig his elbow into defenders on drives. And he initiated contact most of those times as well. But any time there’s not an offensive foul, I do think there’s a defensive foul. He forces contact. Every drive. Enough contact for a foul nearly every time he attacks. And that’s why he’s so tough to officiate. It’s a foul one way or another. But can you call a foul EVERY possession? That’s the thing.

Yeah, it’s not pretty basketball. I don’t like his offense either. But unless they start to officiate him differently, I actually think he’ll age well, even without a jumper. He’s not going to get shorter or lose length as he ages. And he seems to be the type who will hit the weight room everyday until he retires. So his size, length, and strength will allow him to score at the rim until he’s done. It’s not like Russ losing athleticism. Freak will still be 6’11 with a 7’4 wingspan when he’s 36. He’s still going to have 10 feet long strides and sharp elbows. I guess we’ll see. But I think he has a chance to put up superstar production type into his mid 30s.

[lefty]

I always liked Horford tbh he is a nice unselfish player with a nice touch a bit old school but on a good way... sucks he only played for meh teams his whole career.
Agreed
He should never have left Boston for that 1 year in Philly (the move didn't make sense at all for Philly); the Celtics really missed him that season

[Dirks_Finale]

Horford went nuclear after Giannis stared him down :lol


Fvcking epic response, tbh...

[lefty]

Fvcking epic response, tbh...

Not just the dunk, but it felt like he scored 50 pts lol

[MultiTroll]

Interesting how 2 seemingly over with series are at 2-2 with the dog now having just as good a chance as the favorite.

Philly and Dallas.

[ambchang]

Boston let two get away in this series.

[MultiTroll]

Boston let two get away in this series.
Just how dumb would you rate Boston in crunch time?
Esp with leads.

I didn't see Fuzz Head from the Spurs on the floor for the Celts at the end.

[JamStone]

Fuck the Celtics.

That said, fuck the Bucks too. Giannis might be a likable guy, but his game is fucking horrible to watch. Like watching a wrecking ball go to work on a wall of LEGO bricks. It’s so ugly. Vomit.

That series is lose-lose for NBA basketball. There are no winners.

[lefty]

Once again, Grizz better without Iverson Jr

[lefty]

:lmao Dray dancing with Memphis fans, down 40

https://twitter.com/tmalpas13/status/1524604050649624576?s=21

[mystargtr34]

Fuck the Celtics.

That said, fuck the Bucks too. Giannis might be a likable guy, but his game is fucking horrible to watch. Like watching a wrecking ball go to work on a wall of LEGO bricks. It’s so ugly. Vomit.

That series is lose-lose for NBA basketball. There are no winners.

As I said above, it’s fucking atrocious to watch. It’s lot even basketball. It’s more a football x basketball hybrid game that he plays. But no one else is allowed to be as physical to him as he is to them. When Giannis doesn’t get to barrell throhh the defender or the defender holds his ground of bumps back Giannis just flails a bit and yells and the zebra blows the whistle. 2 free throws.

[ambchang]

Just how dumb would you rate Boston in crunch time?
Esp with leads.

I didn't see Fuzz Head from the Spurs on the floor for the Celts at the end.

I’m genuinely surprised how bad they are in crunch time. Their most reliable guy in that situation is horford which shouldn’t be. Tatum has to demand the ball and make things happen at that point. Smart is definitely not smart.

On defense too many miscommunications and breakdowns. I’m still rooting for Boston because of Tatum horford and white. But they aren’t likely to go through and win it all like o predicted earlier.

[Brazil]

Fuck the Celtics.

That said, fuck the Bucks too. Giannis might be a likable guy, but his game is fucking horrible to watch. Like watching a wrecking ball go to work on a wall of LEGO bricks. It’s so ugly. Vomit.

That series is lose-lose for NBA basketball. There are no winners.

again not so different of LA peak shaq tbh.. but at the time nobody was complaining it was ugly, smh...

[lefty]

Fuck the Celtics.

That said, fuck the Bucks too. Giannis might be a likable guy, but his game is fucking horrible to watch. Like watching a wrecking ball go to work on a wall of LEGO bricks. It’s so ugly. Vomit.

That series is lose-lose for NBA basketball. There are no winners.

The last 2 games have been awesome tbh

[lefty]

again not so different of LA peak shaq tbh.. but at the time nobody was complaining it was ugly, smh...
Shaq played some ugly ass basketball

[MultiTroll]

Tatum has to demand the ball and make things happen at that point.
Tatum has to pass more, set up other players more, act as a decoy more.

His Kobme act is killing the Celts.

[JamStone]

The last couple Bucks-Celtics games have been good because of exciting 4th quarters and exciting finishes. Competitive games are generally enjoyable watches. Unlikely heroes like Horford. Double digit deficit comebacks like last night. It’s exciting, awesome. That doesn’t mean Giannis’ style of basketball is any less terrible to watch. It’s not pretty basketball. And I know it doesn’t have to be pretty to be effective or to win. It’s just an opinion. I just don’t like watching Giannis’ offense.

And yeah, it is reminiscent of Shaq. Bully ball times a million. Shoulders, elbows, forearms into the throats of defenders. Clumsy giant preying mantis monster clearing a path of destruction towards the basket. Like watching Godzilla trying to perform a ballet. And yes, there were people complaining about Shaq’s game being ugly and not enjoyable to watch. Plenty of Spurs fans thought and said as much. It was ugly. Shaq’s game was not a fun watch. The Dream... now his game was enjoyable to watch. The “beautiful” game when the Spurs transitioned into a more free flowing offense. That was pretty. The Warriors when they first emerged as title contenders. Beautiful basketball.

The Freak? You can praise him all you want. Call him likable and humble and efficient, a winner, a champion. But his game, something you cannot call it is pretty. Shit is not pretty basketball.

[lefty]

Dream was fun to watch
He gave every enter the business

[MultiTroll]

:lmao Dray dancing with Memphis fans, down 40

https://twitter.com/tmalpas13/status/1524604050649624576?s=21
Donkey knows he's a WWE act.

Props i guess for owning it.

[Brazil]

The last couple Bucks-Celtics games have been good because of exciting 4th quarters and exciting finishes. Competitive games are generally enjoyable watches. Unlikely heroes like Horford. Double digit deficit comebacks like last night. It’s exciting, awesome. That doesn’t mean Giannis’ style of basketball is any less terrible to watch. It’s not pretty basketball. And I know it doesn’t have to be pretty to be effective or to win. It’s just an opinion. I just don’t like watching Giannis’ offense.

And yeah, it is reminiscent of Shaq. Bully ball times a million. Shoulders, elbows, forearms into the throats of defenders. Clumsy giant preying mantis monster clearing a path of destruction towards the basket. Like watching Godzilla trying to perform a ballet. And yes, there were people complaining about Shaq’s game being ugly and not enjoyable to watch. Plenty of Spurs fans thought and said as much. It was ugly. Shaq’s game was not a fun watch. The Dream... now his game was enjoyable to watch. The “beautiful” game when the Spurs transitioned into a more free flowing offense. That was pretty. The Warriors when they first emerged as title contenders. Beautiful basketball.

The Freak? You can praise him all you want. Call him likable and humble and efficient, a winner, a champion. But his game, something you cannot call it is pretty. Shit is not pretty basketball.

I would even argue that Giannis game is more watchable than Shaq's and dude can hit a FT, at least we don't have to suffer a hack a Giannis kind of stuff.
I do remember some people complaining about dat Lakers teams playing some ugly bb true but as of today nobody is looking at Shaq career with a what an ugly game he had more like unstoppable, force of nature...

All in all, it is always a question of perspective... a lot of SFs adored the Spurs slow pace bb when the rest of the nba hated it.. same with the bad boys. I personally enjoy it.

I'm not sure what is worst tbh... watching Giannis bullying defense or watching D'Antoni rockets jacking up 40 3s per game. I do prefer watching Giannis.

Of course I'm a big fan of the beautiful game for obvious reasons... a joy to watch

[Killakobe81]

I would even argue that Giannis game is more watchable than Shaq's and dude can hit a FT, at least we don't have to suffer a hack a Giannis kind of stuff.
I do remember some people complaining about dat Lakers teams playing some ugly bb true but as of today nobody is looking at Shaq career with a what an ugly game he had more like unstoppable, force of nature...

All in all, it is always a question of perspective... a lot of SFs adored the Spurs slow pace bb when the rest of the nba hated it.. same with the bad boys. I personally enjoy it.

I'm not sure what is worst tbh... watching Giannis bullying defense or watching D'Antoni rockets jacking up 40 3s per game. I do prefer watching Giannis.

Of course I'm a big fan of the beautiful game for obvious reasons... a joy to watch
I also appreciate a defense first bully ball style.
Much rather a team/player attacking the paint rather than settling for 3s

[baseline bum]

The last couple Bucks-Celtics games have been good because of exciting 4th quarters and exciting finishes. Competitive games are generally enjoyable watches. Unlikely heroes like Horford. Double digit deficit comebacks like last night. It’s exciting, awesome. That doesn’t mean Giannis’ style of basketball is any less terrible to watch. It’s not pretty basketball. And I know it doesn’t have to be pretty to be effective or to win. It’s just an opinion. I just don’t like watching Giannis’ offense.

And yeah, it is reminiscent of Shaq. Bully ball times a million. Shoulders, elbows, forearms into the throats of defenders. Clumsy giant preying mantis monster clearing a path of destruction towards the basket. Like watching Godzilla trying to perform a ballet. And yes, there were people complaining about Shaq’s game being ugly and not enjoyable to watch. Plenty of Spurs fans thought and said as much. It was ugly. Shaq’s game was not a fun watch. The Dream... now his game was enjoyable to watch. The “beautiful” game when the Spurs transitioned into a more free flowing offense. That was pretty. The Warriors when they first emerged as title contenders. Beautiful basketball.

The Freak? You can praise him all you want. Call him likable and humble and efficient, a winner, a champion. But his game, something you cannot call it is pretty. Shit is not pretty basketball.

IDK, mid 90s Rockets basically played the early 00's Spurs ball where they just dump it in the post every possession and wait for the double then kick it out to one of the wings, all of whom are camped at the three point line. Same thing every single possession, I remember both teams being pretty reviled by most fans.

[baseline bum]

Death, taxes, and Harden being a piece of shit in elimination games

[Killakobe81]

5 years for $90 M’S for Duncan Robinson ti sit on the bench but hey he can shoot and it’s the going rate for players nowadays is the logic when I say stop paying non stars as such …

[Killakobe81]

Death, taxes, and Harden being a piece of shit in elimination games

Doc too

[baseline bum]

Doc too

Next Lakers coach

[lefty]

Next Lakers coachWe hope

[baseline bum]

We hope

I'd be happy with Mark Jackson too

[lefty]

:lol whoever picked the Sixers to win the East is a moron

[lefty]

:lol

https://twitter.com/tyhating/status/1524927373518446625

[lefty]

:lol

https://twitter.com/oceaniclemur/status/1524744565248438274

[lefty]

‪James Harden with 1 shot in the 2nd half.‬
‪That’s 1 more than Kobe Bryant in the 2nd half of game 7 vs the Suns in 2006.‬

[Michael Jordan.]

Rockets got the most for Harden right before he turned to complete shit

[Texas_Ranger]

Harden and Westbrick should reunite in some shithole like NY. Cause no serious team should want either of them. I would not have Westbrook on a minimum.

[Killakobe81]

:lol whoever picked the Sixers to win the East is a moron

Facts. Lakers Nets Clippers Sixers all were horrible picks

[SAGirl]

Tbh Freak is as difficult a player to officiate as guys like Shaq and LeBron, maybe more difficult in some ways. His size and strength and length, and then his awkwardness and aggressiveness in combination are all impossible to defend. Play him too tight and his elbows and forearms are in your face and neck. Give him just a little space, and he can literally step around you and make a lay-up with one stride and hardly leaving the floor. I think you can call an offensive foul on him on most of his drives where there’s physicality by tough, tightly contested defense. He loves to dig his elbow into defenders on drives. And he initiated contact most of those times as well. But any time there’s not an offensive foul, I do think there’s a defensive foul. He forces contact. Every drive. Enough contact for a foul nearly every time he attacks. And that’s why he’s so tough to officiate. It’s a foul one way or another. But can you call a foul EVERY possession? That’s the thing.

Yeah, it’s not pretty basketball. I don’t like his offense either. But unless they start to officiate him differently, I actually think he’ll age well, even without a jumper. He’s not going to get shorter or lose length as he ages. And he seems to be the type who will hit the weight room everyday until he retires. So his size, length, and strength will allow him to score at the rim until he’s done. It’s not like Russ losing athleticism. Freak will still be 6’11 with a 7’4 wingspan when he’s 36. He’s still going to have 10 feet long strides and sharp elbows. I guess we’ll see. But I think he has a chance to put up superstar production type into his mid 30s.
Not only that, he's mentally tough. The guy keeps coming at you even if he's having a tough shooting night at the foul line. You will never see him not try or give up. I don't remember him much early in his career but he posts up a lot more than he did when he was young and Kidd tried to make him a PG. And he's a monster in the post for the reasons you state. More than anything else I like his mentality. I suppose as he ages he'll lose something defensively but maybe he will be like some greats who still affected the game bc of their size and by then veteran timing. Tim Duncan comes to my mind as someone who remained effective until he really fell apart but I am sure there must be others I never watched bc they were b4 my time or in teams I didn't watch.

[ambchang]

IDK, mid 90s Rockets basically played the early 00's Spurs ball where they just dump it in the post every possession and wait for the double then kick it out to one of the wings, all of whom are camped at the three point line. Same thing every single possession, I remember both teams being pretty reviled by most fans.

Shaq Lakers did that especially in 00 and 01, nobody said shit because it was the Lakers.

[lefty]

Tatum vs Giannis :wow

:lol Portis

[Thread]

Shaq Lakers did that especially in 00 and 01, nobody said shit because it was the Lakers.

Stop whining!!!

[ambchang]

Stop whining!!!

We stopped winning a long time ago. Oh you said whining.

[lefty]

Klay carrying Steph agsin

[daslicer]

5 years for $90 M’S for Duncan Robinson ti sit on the bench but hey he can shoot and it’s the going rate for players nowadays is the logic when I say stop paying non stars as such …

I call it the Warrior's effect. The Warriors made shooting overvalued in this league that now shooters get overpaid. It's the reason why the Spurs were able to deal a scrub like Forbes for a second round pick this year from the Nuggets.

[FrostKing]

Game 7 @ the Gardan

Alot of non-NBA bros tuning into this one

[FrostKing]

Boston hugging puffing. Glacing at Giannis. Will he put the kape on?

[lefty]

Miami vs Boston will be really good

[Robz4000]

Miami vs Boston will be really good

Prolly another 7-gamer, albeit if Boston stops with the stupid mental mistakes they can win in 5.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Prolly another 7-gamer, albeit if Boston stops with the stupid mental mistakes they can win in 5.

No, the Heatles have HCA. Miami in 5 or 6 max.

Good on the Celtics for showing those Wisconsin losers who's BOS. :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

I call it the Warrior's effect. The Warriors made shooting overvalued in this league that now shooters get overpaid. It's the reason why the Spurs were able to deal a scrub like Forbes for a second round pick this year from the Nuggets.

Second round picks don't mean shit in the NBA. This isn't the NFL.

Yes once upon a time the Spurs were leagues ahead of everyone else in the euro trash and stash 2nd round pick market, but that schtick is very long in the tooth and those guys go off the board in the 1st now. Plus, eurotrash players aren't as good as they used to be.

[Robz4000]

No, the Heatles have HCA. Miami in 5 or 6 max.

Good on the Celtics for showing those Wisconsin losers who's BOS. :toast

Miami is a fraud team tbh. They lack talent and two-way players.

[lefty]

:lol Bucks shot 4/33 from 3

[FrostKing]

Nice try. Celtics advance.

Jimmy + shooters is good for 2-3 wins

Boston defense vs Warriors is the end game. This is good tease

[Millennial_Messiah]

Miami is a fraud team tbh. They lack talent and two-way players.
Jimmy isn't a two way player? :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Bucks shot 4/33 from 3

Reminiscent of the old Bucks, tbh. Gay Ray Allen, Big Dog, Michael Redd, Sam Cassell, Toni Kukoc, Ersan Ilyasova, et al. Those guys would go 16/24 from three one playoff game and then something like 3/37 the next, no joke.

[Robz4000]

Jimmy isn't a two way player? :lmao

:lol him and Adebayo are their only two way players. Half of Boston's team plays both sides.

[lefty]

Warriors are going to skullfuck Dallas

[ambchang]

I think the Mavs actually match up well with the warriors. Warriors in 7.

[lefty]

I think the Mavs actually match up well with the warriors. Warriors in 7.

I hope Luka will take them out tbh

[Chris Fall]

I like Dallas against Golden State too. I think it's a match up where the Mavs don't have to play Powell, at all if they want. They can play Maxi, Bertans, and Finney Smith the majority of the big minutes. And they can run their 3 guard line-up more, which will space out the defense just the same way Golden State often does to most teams. And if Kerr plays Looney and Draymond together, I think that benefits Dallas too.

Dallas has some roster flexibility too. I think it will be interesting in the next series what the line-ups are and how each team will react and adjust to the opposing line-ups.

[Robz4000]

The talent disparity is outrageously in the Dubs' favor tbh. They're also better at playing small ball than the Mavs and have been doing it longer. Luka prolly wins the Mavs a game but a sweep wouldn't surprise me.

:lmao Suns

[Neo.]

will be interesting to see lukas approach

does he mostly target steph and poole to expose their complete inability to defend him, or does he mostly target draymond to negate his team defense (and his known struggles to defend him)? jalen shouldnt have too much trouble scoring on steph or poole either.

luka is the most difficult matchup in the series by far, while the mavs have a slew of the exact types of defenders that are known to give the warriors issues. the mavs can definitely win the series.

[lefty]

:lmao Booker

Mavs double teamed him, simple antidote

When will this clown ever learn?

Noah was right

[baseline bum]

Second round picks don't mean shit in the NBA. This isn't the NFL.

Yes once upon a time the Spurs were leagues ahead of everyone else in the euro trash and stash 2nd round pick market, but that schtick is very long in the tooth and those guys go off the board in the 1st now. Plus, eurotrash players aren't as good as they used to be.

LOL two best players in the league are from Europe

[Neo.]

Second round picks don't mean shit in the NBA. This isn't the NFL.

Yes once upon a time the Spurs were leagues ahead of everyone else in the euro trash and stash 2nd round pick market, but that schtick is very long in the tooth and those guys go off the board in the 1st now. Plus, eurotrash players aren't as good as they used to be.

you're a moron

lol jalen brunson

there will always be quality under the radar players in the 2nd round. the spurs would arguably have 4 rings less without one of those.

[Millennial_Messiah]

you're a moron

lol jalen brunson

there will always be quality under the radar players in the 2nd round. the spurs would arguably have 4 rings less without one of those.
out of all the double digit amount of 2nd round draft and stash eurotrash padawans in the Popovich era, literally 1 of them paid off. The others all fizzled in the NBA, stayed overseas, or had to be traded for miscellaneous reasons

compare that with day 2 picks in the NFL and rate of success.

also the Spurs would still have the 2003 championship with Steve Smith playing those backup-Jackson minutes instead of Manu. And in 2014 he was an afterthought, the 5th best player on the team. Also Manu cost the Spurs Jackson and who knows if Jackson would be as good as Manu in 2005, he definitely would have been at least as good as Manu in 2007 to win us that title and also in 2004 Manu was still very green and Jackson's replacement was an incompetent turkish piece of shit who couldn't shoot or score or play defense.

[Neo.]

out of all the double digit amount of 2nd round draft and stash eurotrash padawans in the Popovich era, literally 1 of them paid off.

and it paid off mightily, with multiple championships.


also the Spurs would still have the 2003 championship with Steve Smith playing those backup-Jackson minutes instead of Manu.

i dont agree but its possible


And in 2014 he was an afterthought, the 5th best player on the team.

completely retarded, he was arguably the true MVP of that series, every time he came in, it would be a close game or miami would be a little ahead, and suddenly the spurs go on a run, mostly spearheaded by his playmaking. he was ridiculously vital to that team, since kawhi was not (and still isnt) a strong playmaker

[baseline bum]

also the Spurs would still have the 2003 championship with Steve Smith playing those backup-Jackson minutes instead of Manu.

Not a chance. Smith was a horrendous defensive turnstile and couldn't create shit for himself offensively. And no way the Spurs were going to run him in the post instead of dumping it to Duncan there.

[Chris Fall]

Is it not common knowledge that NBA teams only have 15 roster spots (plus two way contracts) while NFL rosters carry 53 players?

Of course 2nd and 3rd and even 4th and 5th rounds picks from the NFL draft have a higher success rate than 2nd round NBA picks.

There are nearly 4 times as many NFL roster spots than NBA roster spots in a given season. And the turnover rate is greater too because the average NFL career is shorter than an average NBA career.

Why on earth would you compare 2nd round drafted NBA players to day 2 drafted NFl players?

[ambchang]

out of all the double digit amount of 2nd round draft and stash eurotrash padawans in the Popovich era, literally 1 of them paid off. The others all fizzled in the NBA, stayed overseas, or had to be traded for miscellaneous reasons

compare that with day 2 picks in the NFL and rate of success.

also the Spurs would still have the 2003 championship with Steve Smith playing those backup-Jackson minutes instead of Manu. And in 2014 he was an afterthought, the 5th best player on the team. Also Manu cost the Spurs Jackson and who knows if Jackson would be as good as Manu in 2005, he definitely would have been at least as good as Manu in 2007 to win us that title and also in 2004 Manu was still very green and Jackson's replacement was an incompetent turkish piece of shit who couldn't shoot or score or play defense.

I’m not exactly sure what you meant by paid off. But having a HoF let in the second round is a home run. And there were about five or six second round draft and stash players.

As for Steve smith, did you see the guy play? He was beyond done at that point. There is no way the spurs would get past the lakers without manu to just put in some decent minutes. Smith would be hemorrhaging points.

2014 manu was pivotal. He was a 15ppg or so scorer in the playoffs and was the PG in the game. Without manu the spurs wouldn’t be able to get past Mavs in the first round.

Seriously, what do you expect? For the spurs to draft an entire starting lineup in the second round? Name one single team better at drafting in the second round than the spurs in the last 25 years. Nuggets with jokic. Who else?

[Millennial_Messiah]

completely retarded, he was arguably the true MVP of that series, every time he came in, it would be a close game or miami would be a little ahead, and suddenly the spurs go on a run, mostly spearheaded by his playmaking. he was ridiculously vital to that team, since kawhi was not (and still isnt) a strong playmaker
:lol

Leonard was easily the best player on the team, arguably on both ends of the court. TP was still the highest scorer, Duncan was still an All-Star level force in the paint on both ends, and even Manu himself admitted that LDN was better than him. Jackson had too much ego and couldn't admit that LDN was better than him so he got kicked off the team and missed out on the championship :lol TP "it's the big boss decision" :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not a chance. Smith was a horrendous defensive turnstile and couldn't create shit for himself offensively. And no way the Spurs were going to run him in the post instead of dumping it to Duncan there.

To be fair, Smith was an above average defender for his career, even for his era.... but when the '02-03 season began and Smith got back from his injury that kept him out the first two games of that championship season, it was clear that Smith wasn't the same solid player as he was in the 2002 season or years prior. The Spurs started that season 19-13 and that was largely due to Smith being a liability, no backup point guard due to Claxton being out the majority of the year (I was actually at the game Claxton tore up his arm, the inaugural SBC Center game, game 3 of 82) - the replacement was Anthony Goldwire and he was awful, forcing Steve Kerr to play too many minutes and he was terrible on defense, and Danny Ferry still getting too many minutes (it was the Admiral's last year and he missed a TON of time that year) and being a liability like prime Bonner because Popovich hadn't fully discovered that Kevin Willis still had plenty left in the tank at that point. Once Popovich wisened up and actually decided that Jackson and Willis should play ahead of Smith and Ferry, and that Manu was a competent backup PG when not injured.... we started to actually consistently win games and ended up 60-22 tied with Dallas with the tiebreaker and even got to tank the last game of the season because Dallas needed to win to stay ahead of Sacramento and we didn't.

The Main reason the Spurs won the championship in 2002-03 though was Tim Duncan and no one else but Tim Duncan. The GOAT. He made up for a ton of other deficiencies. Robinson's injuries, Willis's age, Parker's inconsistency, "Trick Or Treat Malik" Rose, Bowen being a one trick pony on offense, Jackson and Manu being young and inconsistent, etc.

Steve Smith would be considered a lockdown defender for today's NBA standards, though. Today's gasoline and baby formula shortage is nothing compared to the current shortage of defensive talent in the NBA.

[baseline bum]

To be fair, Smith was an above average defender for his career, even for his era.... but when the '02-03 season began and Smith got back from his injury that kept him out the first two games of that championship season, it was clear that Smith wasn't the same solid player as he was in the 2002 season or years prior. The Spurs started that season 19-13 and that was largely due to Smith being a liability, no backup point guard due to Claxton being out the majority of the year (I was actually at the game Claxton tore up his arm, the inaugural SBC Center game, game 3 of 82) - the replacement was Anthony Goldwire and he was awful, forcing Steve Kerr to play too many minutes and he was terrible on defense, and Danny Ferry still getting too many minutes (it was the Admiral's last year and he missed a TON of time that year) and being a liability like prime Bonner because Popovich hadn't fully discovered that Kevin Willis still had plenty left in the tank at that point. Once Popovich wisened up and actually decided that Jackson and Willis should play ahead of Smith and Ferry, and that Manu was a competent backup PG when not injured.... we started to actually consistently win games and ended up 60-22 tied with Dallas with the tiebreaker and even got to tank the last game of the season because Dallas needed to win to stay ahead of Sacramento and we didn't.

The Main reason the Spurs won the championship in 2002-03 though was Tim Duncan and no one else but Tim Duncan. The GOAT. He made up for a ton of other deficiencies. Robinson's injuries, Willis's age, Parker's inconsistency, "Trick Or Treat Malik" Rose, Bowen being a one trick pony on offense, Jackson and Manu being young and inconsistent, etc.

Steve Smith would be considered a lockdown defender for today's NBA standards, though. Today's gasoline and baby formula shortage is nothing compared to the current shortage of defensive talent in the NBA.

What are you talking about? Smith was a horrible defender in 01-02. I remember an Express News article that year where David Robinson was raving about how great Duncan and Bowen were defensively as well as Malik Rose and Charles Smith and then when it came to Steve Smith David said he was really good at calling for help. Smith was an even worse turnstile than Derek Anderson was the year before. Couldn't move his feet at all and made Brent Barry look like Artest defensively.

[lefty]

What are you talking about? Smith was a horrible defender in 01-02. I remember an Express News article that year where David Robinson was raving about how great Duncan and Bowen were defensively as well as Malik Rose and Charles Smith and then when it came to Steve Smith David said he was really good at calling for help. Smith was an even worse turnstile than Derek Anderson was the year before. Couldn't move his feet at all and made Brent Barry look like Artest defensively.
Yeah he was ass

The media were saying he was one of the best perimeter defenders when he was with the Atlanta Hawks
:lol anything to make MJ look good I guess

[Millennial_Messiah]

What are you talking about? Smith was a horrible defender in 01-02. I remember an Express News article that year where David Robinson was raving about how great Duncan and Bowen were defensively as well as Malik Rose and Charles Smith and then when it came to Steve Smith David said he was really good at calling for help. Smith was an even worse turnstile than Derek Anderson was the year before. Couldn't move his feet at all and made Brent Barry look like Artest defensively.
:lol no, but, Smith wasn't the core strength of the defense. Defense was very up and down in '01-02. But it wasn't just Smith. Antonio Daniels, Terry Porter and Danny Ferry were all awful on defense (and of course TP, but you forgive him because he's a rookie and a point guard) and it was clear we needed more size and defense on the wings. Anderson didn't cut it either; he was a good 3 & D guy against average SG's but he was just too small and weak to guard Kobe. Ergo, enter Bowen.

Malik Rose was trick or treat on defense. His best skills were flopping taking a charge and "pulling the chair out" in the post getting less than stellar post players to commit a turnover. But Rose always folded like a lawn chair against the big boys. He was a career overachiever though being a little less than NBA-talented but made a decent career for himself despite limited skills. He was what DeJuan Blair should have been if he had actually got off his lazy ass and tried to make a career for himself.

The 01-02 team got off to a hot start (20-4) but were very up-and-down the rest of the year. Both on offense and defense. We'd win a game 81-74, win a game 120-113, then lose a game 77-80, then lose a game 109-119.

[baseline bum]

:lol no, but, Smith wasn't the core strength of the defense. Defense was very up and down in '01-02. But it wasn't just Smith. Antonio Daniels, Terry Porter and Danny Ferry were all awful on defense (and of course TP, but you forgive him because he's a rookie and a point guard) and it was clear we needed more size and defense on the wings. Anderson didn't cut it either; he was a good 3 & D guy against average SG's but he was just too small and weak to guard Kobe. Ergo, enter Bowen.

Malik Rose was trick or treat on defense. His best skills were flopping taking a charge and "pulling the chair out" in the post getting less than stellar post players to commit a turnover. But Rose always folded like a lawn chair against the big boys.

The 01-02 team got off to a hot start (20-4) but were very up-and-down the rest of the year. Both on offense and defense. We'd win a game 81-74, win a game 120-113, then lose a game 77-80, then lose a game 109-119.

Smith was the core weakness of the defense. And he was shit offensively too outside of starting the season red hot from the three point line.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Smith was the core weakness of the defense. And he was shit offensively too outside of starting the season red hot from the three point line.

Hence he got benched for an objectively better player in Jackson, not until the Sonics road game on Jan. 8th, 2003... he talks about that game all the time in his memoirs... Jackson who I called for to have more playing time in 2002, but he was effectively redshirted by Poop that year because of muh "get over yerself"..... maybe we could have pushed the LAL to 7 or even won that series in '02 with an experienced Stephen Jackson instead of Smith and Porter, Daniels, etc

people will say that the 2003 season was turned around by the (inaugural) RRT or the Mavericks choking, but really the turning point which got us the championship was starting Jax and benching Smitty.

[lefty]

LMAO no Smart and Horford in game 1?

[Rummpd]

Have to give Heat organization credit they just hang in there despite only one quasi superstar but are very well coached. Boston still a threat but not surprised if Heat are in finals again.

[LkrFan]

Klay looks washed out there :(

[Robz4000]

So which game does Doncic get hurt in? Thinking game 2 myself.

[Mark Celibate]

well this series is over IMO. Didn't want to write them off, but I knew it would be an uphill battle since they're playing a composed team with championship pedigree as opposed to the two mentally weak frontrunning teams they had played prior. There's no stiff at the center position this round either for them to expose in the pick and roll

[lefty]

The Suns really suck lmao

[Neo.]

everything about this game came down the Mavs role players. they missed the wide open stuff the first half. second half the warriors didn't even guard them and just packed the paint and played the lanes, leading to the turnovers. and they still missed despite literally not being defended.

hit open 3s and everything is resolved. if they do, Mavs win the series. impossible for Luka, brunson or dinwiddie to do anything more if they get trapped and face 2 weakside help defenders every single drive.

[Luka Doncic]

well this series is over IMO. Didn't want to write them off, but I knew it would be an uphill battle since they're playing a composed team with championship pedigree as opposed to the two mentally weak frontrunning teams they had played prior. There's no stiff at the center position this round either for them to expose in the pick and roll
Warriors had extra rest, and the Mavs had a Game 7 hangover. You won’t steal two in San Francisco right off the bat. Mavs are fine.

”Everybody acting tough when they up!”

[Dirks_Finale]

Warriors had extra rest, and the Mavs had a Game 7 hangover. You won’t steal two in San Francisco right off the bat. Mavs are fine.

”Everybody acting tough when they up!”

That's what I saw out there. It was evident in the first quarter.

[Thread]

That's what I saw out there. It was evident in the first quarter.

The problem being if you lose tomorrow night of that age old bromide of either of 2 eventualities:::win 4 in-a-row, or, a Game 7 in San Francisco.

[mystargtr34]

everything about this game came down the Mavs role players. they missed the wide open stuff the first half. second half the warriors didn't even guard them and just packed the paint and played the lanes, leading to the turnovers. and they still missed despite literally not being defended.

hit open 3s and everything is resolved. if they do, Mavs win the series. impossible for Luka, brunson or dinwiddie to do anything more if they get trapped and face 2 weakside help defenders every single drive.

Pretty much. At one point they were 3-21 on threes when I looked up at the scoreboard. Finished 11-48 for 23%. As you said this series will come down to the Mavs making their open 3’s. That will also open up the paint for Luka.

[Neo.]

Pretty much. At one point they were 3-21 on threes when I looked up at the scoreboard. Finished 11-48 for 23%. As you said this series will come down to the Mavs making their open 3’s. That will also open up the paint for Luka.

they dont even have to shoot exceptionally well. if they just shoot between 35-40% on 3s, then thats an extra 20-25 points, as well as probably around 10 less points for the opponent just off of the fastbreaks and easy buckets from the misses, and its a dallas victory

most games arent that simple, but last nights was. dallas missed a bunch of wide open shots, golden state adjusted to take full advantage of it, and it led to a loss.

[Thread]

they dont even have to shoot exceptionally well. if they just shoot between 35-40% on 3s, then thats an extra 20-25 points, as well as probably around 10 less points for the opponent just off of the fastbreaks and easy buckets from the misses, and its a dallas victory

most games arent that simple, but last nights was. dallas missed a bunch of wide open shots, golden state adjusted to take full advantage of it, and it led to a loss.

Those (impossible) shots by Curry are back breakers and mind fuckers. They stagger the visitors, albeit but a second, but affect tremendously. He's not as "impersonal" as Ginobilli was with his, but damn near as effective.

Green comes to play every-fucking-second. That wears on a team. & he knows it.

[Spurminator]

Generally, I liked what I saw from the Mavs as far as scheme and defense. But when you live by the 3 you are going to lose some games like that. I think Mavs in 6 but it's going to be a battle.

[MultiTroll]

Used to like Chuck and Shaq. Never have liked Kenny.

Have Shaq and Chuck ever commented on bogus reffing?
Never hear a word out of either of them re WarriorRef.

Shaq may have to keep quiet due to his co MVP LakerRef aiding he and role player Bryant in the early 00s.
Then the DWade gifts in 2006.

But Barkley? Why the hell does Mr. Tell it Like it Is seemingly never comment?

[Chris Fall]

It's already been said, but Mavs don't really need to change much except make their open shots. Make enough of those open jumpers, it causes the defense to adjust, to stop shading and cheating and doubling on the ball so much. Defense plays honest, and they get more clean one-on-ones for Luka and the other playmakers. Then they have a chance.

Make open shots, and Dallas will be in the game with a chance to win. Don't make open shots, Dallas probably has no chance. Simple and basic but true.

[Killakobe81]

Used to like Chuck and Shaq. Never have liked Kenny.

Have Shaq and Chuck ever commented on bogus reffing?
Never hear a word out of either of them re WarriorRef.

Shaq may have to keep quiet due to his co MVP LakerRef aiding he and role player Bryant in the early 00s.
Then the DWade gifts in 2006.

But Barkley? Why the hell does Mr. Tell it Like it Is seemingly never comment?
So much fail … Bryant wasn’t a role player by then
And do you honestly believe Shaq and his enormous ego believes he got bailed out by refs?!
Plus plenty of games on the road in the playoffs vs sacto blazers Spurs where he spent time on the bench in foul trouble
Also if you are honest despite several shaky calls of that era you can’t watch prime Shaq in that era and not admit there were plenty of times he got away with offensive fouls but plenty more where he got beat pushed hacked with no call. Multiple ex opposing players coaches analysts have all spoke about this.

And yes you I get you trolling but the premise is silly, do better.

[Rummpd]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33952437/los-angeles-lakers-head-coaching-finalists-include-bucks-assistant-darvin-ham-ex-trail-blazers-coach-terry-stotts-sources-say


Retread or untested the Fakers search for a miracle worker with their flawed antiquated squad so which will GM LeBron back?

[Brazil]

So much fail … Bryant wasn’t a role player by then
And do you honestly believe Shaq and his enormous ego believes he got bailed out by refs?!
Plus plenty of games on the road in the playoffs vs sacto blazers Spurs where he spent time on the bench in foul trouble
Also if you are honest despite several shaky calls of that era you can’t watch prime Shaq in that era and not admit there were plenty of times he got away with offensive fouls but plenty more where he got beat pushed hacked with no call. Multiple ex opposing players coaches analysts have all spoke about this.

And yes you I get you trolling but the premise is silly, do better.

to be totally fair, Bryant has always been a role player






:lol

[lefty]

to be totally fair, Bryant has always been a role player






:lol

2nd greatest 2nd banana after Scottie Pippen tbh

Pur some respeck on his name please

[Brazil]

2nd greatest 2nd banana after Scottie Pippen tbh

Pur some respeck on his name please

no doubt Scottie is the better role player of the 2. Scottie was better than Bryant at everything except inefficient scoring and quitting. One thing going for Bryant is that Scottie has been the robin of only one batman... Bryant had to deal with 2 batman with different skillsets... props to him for his adaptability tbh...

[Thread]

to be totally fair, Bryant has always been a role player






:lol


2nd greatest 2nd banana after Scottie Pippen tbh

Pur some respeck on his name please


By God & Sonny Jesus he never pulled a stunt like this...

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif

tee, hee.

[Killakobe81]

By God & Sonny Jesus he never pulled a stunt like this...

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif

tee, hee.



The blasphemy of the peasants, thread … please take them to the tree of woe and leave the God less there

[lefty]

:lol Celtics leading 18-1

[ambchang]

2nd greatest 2nd banana after Scottie Pippen tbh

Pur some respeck on his name please

You forgot magic. I still have him as the best second banana of all time. Even over Pippen.

[lefty]

You forgot magic. I still have him as the best second banana of all time. Even over Pippen.
Damn that's true
Add McHale, DJ, Dumars, Klay to the mix
Kobe is still top 15-20 second banana tbh, that's nothing to be ashamed of

[Killakobe81]

Y’all wild and seem to have a oral fixation or an obsession with bananas … why is that?
:bobo

[lefty]

Y’all wild and seem to have a oral fixation or an obsession with bananas … why is that?
:bobo
:lol

[ambchang]

Y’all wild and seem to have a oral fixation or an obsession with bananas … why is that?
:bobo

They are Nice tasting berries.

[FrostKing]

How often are Foul challenges successful? Just seems like players bullying coaches.

[Isitjustme?]

1530030794772725771

[MultiTroll]

See the guys have already gave you some regulating....

despite several shaky calls of that era
Several thousand shaky calls of the Kombe era?

Or are you talking per quarter?

[Killakobe81]

1530030794772725771

So begging KD to join a 70 win team after a Kyrie torched him is forgotten?
I like Steph, but stop …

[baseline bum]

So begging KD to join a 70 win team after a Kyrie torched him is forgotten?
I like Steph, but stop …

Thought that was Raymond

[TD 21]

Thought that was Raymond

It was the core four and he's right, as I've said ad nauseam, I've never understood why only Durant was blamed for the gutless act fan wise (media has a love affair with all things Warriors).

Between those front running frauds being too afraid to compete and receiving unprecedented opponent injury luck (happened again with Murray, Porter Jr., Morant, Hardaway), they've still yet to prove much in the playoffs and now get to feast on an ailing Celtics (Smart, R. Williams).

[Thread]

It was the core four and he's right, as I've said ad nauseam, I've never understood why only Durant was blamed for the gutless act fan wise (media has a love affair with all things Warriors).

Between those front running frauds being too afraid to compete and receiving unprecedented opponent injury luck (happened again with Murray, Porter Jr., Morant, Hardaway), they've still yet to prove much in the playoffs and now get to feast on an ailing Celtics (Smart, R. Williams).

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Stop whining!!!

[ambchang]

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Stop whining!!!

The polling stations were injured.

[Thread]

The polling stations were injured.


Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Stop whining!!!

[ambchang]

Hey. Thanks for saying you are a pussy.

[Thread]

Hey. Thanks for saying you are a pussy.

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.

[TD 21]

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

Stop whining!!!

Nah, rational people who apply context to results do.