Official 2021 NBA Offseason and 2021-2022 NBA Season Thread

[Killakobe81]

Thought that was Raymond

He initiated it but Steph flew out to Hamptons to close

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Nah, rational people who apply context to results do.

No, it's cut and dried...only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

[ambchang]

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.

Should it have been “or”? I mean, are you both? How is it physically possible to be both at the same time? You should let us know. It not that I’m interested. Just curious.

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Should it have been “or”? I mean, are you both? How is it physically possible to be both at the same time? You should let us know. It not that I’m interested. Just curious.

The grammar card; last bastion of the thoroughly vanquished.

[ambchang]

The grammar card; last bastion of the thoroughly vanquished.

Just wondering. So are you both or just one of the two? I’m genuinely curious as to which of the three you are.

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Just wondering. So are you both or just one of the two? I’m genuinely curious as to which of the three you are.

I don't play those cards, amb, ever.

It's my religion.

[ambchang]

I don't play those cards, amb, ever.

It's my religion.

Bring a chickenshit is your religion. Gotcha.

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Bring a chickenshit is your religion. Gotcha.

Come ta Pappy.

Signed,

- Pappy

[MultiTroll]

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Image is linked to the ELE citations, in which he proposed the bet! It's the ultimate welch, not just accepting an ELE but proposing it and then not abiding. Dale's been lying about me forgiving him since ole Joe ate his ice cream gave him the bidness.

Dale is a welcher, PERIOD.

[Rummpd]

Dear Thread

Last pixie championship a fraud

Lakers last year most disappointing team in NBA history

If karma exists will stay that way with LeRoid and DaQuit and Brick

Go Boston

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Dear Thread

Last pixie championship a fraud

Lakers last year most disappointing team in NBA history

If karma exists will stay that way with LeRoid and DaQuit and Brick

Go Boston


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[ducks]

Sorry I TOTALLY disagree with you on a player's RIGHT to disrespect the flag. Professional athletes are paid exorbitant amounts of money to PLAY... They are NOT paid that money to make political statements while they are getting paid to play! If I started blathering on and on with MY political opinions and wore a shirt with a political statement when I was getting paid to work, management would politely call me into an office, close the door and politely and pointedly tell me that while I have a right to my opinions, they hired me to do the job they are paying me to do... NOT to express my political opinions on THEIR time.. Further, they would tell me to go home and put on a work appropriate shirt with NO political statement on it.. and then come back to work. I have 3 Let's Go Brandon t shirts that I wear regularly.. but I would NEVER consider wearing them at work because it would be inappropriate to do so.
Undoubtedly, they would also tell me that if I refused, I WOULD be fired.
Players DO NOT have a right to force their political opinions on the fans by kneeling, making gestures, or wearing uniforms with political statements on them while playing.
If said players were really THAT passionate about something, there are appropriate times and places to express their opinions. Doing so while you are being paid to play is NOT one of those appropriate times...PERIOD.. no arguments by you or anyone else on this issue

[lefty]

FUCK THE FLAG

[Chris Fall]

Players are paid to play the game, that's true. Wearing political or social awareness shirts before or after the game is not a problem. Warming up pre game or answering questions to the media is not their job. Playing ball is their job. Wearing those types of shirts over their uniforms while they play during an actual game would be a problem. If you chose to wear a Let's Go Brandon tshirt before you go to work and after when you're done, same thing. Once you clock in, then you wear appropriate work clothes. Plus, seems like the owners and the teams supported the players. Their bosses didn't say don't wear them. Where's the problem?

Also, taking a knee during the anthem is not disrespecting the flag. For years, that's how it's been described, and inaccurately. People kneel in church, people kneel to kings and queens. Kneeling can actually be a form of reverence. Kneeling for the anthem is a protest, but not disrespect. Jumping up and down screaming "fuck you" middle fingers out at the flag during the anthem is disrespect. Kneeling quietly to make a political or social awareness statement is actually a respectful way to protest. Whether you agree with it or not is your right. It's not disrespect.

[Killakobe81]

Well said Jam.
People ahem JerryJines never understood this..plus a military vet said kneeling would be better than sitting.

[ambchang]

:lol these sensitive white Americans. White guy dressing as a Sharman Carrying the confederate flag, a flag of the losing side of a civil war that ended more than a century ago, into the capitol building, is perfectly ok and even patriotic. Yet a black guy kneeling down to the current flag is unacceptably disrespectful.

It’s hilarious.

[Dirks_Finale]

I didn't see Kaep kneeling when he was a primetime starting QB, only when he fell off the face of the earth and became a backup - then suddenly he is a social justice warrior with a flared out afro. :lol

We should just stop playing the anthem, imo. It's a age old tradition, but if it's gonna cause a bunch of ruckus and athletes constantly thinking that they need to inform us of their political opinions, then let's squash it and get on with the games.

[Robz4000]

I didn't see Kaep kneeling when he was a primetime starting QB, only when he fell off the face of the earth and became a backup - then suddenly he is a social justice warrior with a flared out afro. :lol

We should just stop playing the anthem, imo. It's a age old tradition, but if it's gonna cause a bunch of ruckus and athletes constantly thinking that they need to inform us of their political opinions, then let's squash it and get on with the games.

This tbh. Don't have a problem with the message, but fuck Kraep; he was losing his place in the spotlight and couldn't handle it.

[KobesAchilles]

Ducks has never been to a Rockets game. People disrespect the anthem every fucking game. And they have for as long as I’ve been alive and most likely since before I’ve been alive. I’d rather have people kneeling quietly than hear drunk idiots scream “Yeah Go Rockets!” every fucking time the singer says And the rockets red glare…

[ambchang]

White supremicists totally fine with rosanne making a mockery of the national anthem just because she also hates coloured people and immigrants.

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[Chris Fall]

Lol people forgetting and then rewriting history.

Kaepernick started kneeling after a conversation and at the suggestion of Nate Boyer, a former Army Green Beret, to be a more respectful form of protesting. Yeah, respectful. Initially he just sat during the anthem.

End of 2015 and summer of 2016, there were several higher profile police killings of black men. The timing did coincide with Kaepernick struggling and getting benched. But it's pretty easy to google or wiki the timeline of police killings that led up to the start of him protesting. Start with the Mario Woods killing in the Bay Area end of 2015, and the killings of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling in the summer of 2016. And the timeline of him kneeling follows those incidents.

[FrostKing]

it doesn't belong in domestic games like MLB, NBA, NFL etc

Only when you Represent your Nation.

In Europe it is rare to have a Anthem Playing outside of European play.

[lefty]

it doesn't belong in domestic games like MLB, NBA, NFL etc

Only when you Represent your Nation.

In Europe it is rare to have a Anthem Playing outside of European play.

[MultiTroll]

:lol and the bandwaggoning frauds crawl out.
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[MultiTroll]

The dress does look pretty good.
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[lefty]

lol Snoop would be the 1st to admit he is a bandwagonner he doesn't care lol

He even had an Anaheim Ducks when they won the Stanley Cup :lol

[MultiTroll]

I can bandwaggon.
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[Texas_Ranger]

Dallas getting Christian Wood for pretty much nothing.

[djohn2oo8]

Dallas getting Christian Wood for pretty much nothing.
A first isn’t nothing. He provides nothing on defense and has a bad attitude.

[Dick Jones]

A first isn’t nothing. He provides nothing on defense and has a bad attitude.
Of course he has a bad attitude, he had to play for your dumpster fire franchise :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Of course he has a bad attitude, he had to play for your dumpster fire franchise :lmao
Yeah because Dallas has done a bang up job with rehabbing niggas like Rondo :lmao

[Neo.]

A first isn’t nothing. He provides nothing on defense and has a bad attitude.

the moment i saw the trade i knew i could come here and djohn would be claiming a "victory" for the rockets :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

the moment i saw the trade i knew i could come here and djohn would be claiming a "victory" for the rockets :lmao
Did I claim victory? Rockets are about to package two picks to get a second top 10 pick. Anybody who watched Wood knows while he is decent offensively, he’s terrible on defense and pouts when he doesn’t get the ball. Good luck. He ain’t a max player but Cuban will pay him.

[Neo.]

mavs basically got a quality player with an expiring contract for the #26 pick and guys who dont play

if he doesnt end up fitting, hes a very valuable piece for the trade market. great trade for dallas, and houston as well, for getting rid of a guy whos not interested in losing 50+ games a year in hopes that their rebuild ends up turning into winning seasons by time hes 30.

[Dick Jones]

Rockets are about to package two picks to get a second top 10 pick.
:lmao bookmarking this

[Neo.]

:cry we didnt want him anyways :cry :cry :cry

[Dick Jones]

Nico has nailed every move so far tbh

[djohn2oo8]

mavs basically got a quality player with an expiring contract for the #26 pick and guys who dont play

if he doesnt end up fitting, hes a very valuable piece for the trade market. great trade for dallas, and houston as well, for getting rid of a guy whos not interested in losing 50+ games a year in hopes that their rebuild ends up turning into winning seasons by time hes 30.
Valuable piece that no one wanted to trade for. Dallas isn’t making this move without an extension for him.

Look at how many teams Wood has bounced around on. Your logic makes no sense because he looked his best offensively on the Rockets. He can’t set screens or play defense. He’s a quitter. There’s no excuse for quitting. Won’t be long before he refuses to check back into a game again because Kidd raised his voice.

[Dick Jones]

lol same stuff was said about Dinwiddie, he started playing with the Young Goat and his attitude/effort did a 180.

[baseline bum]

Good low risk, high reward move for Dallas. Pretty doubtful whoever they draft at 26 would have been better than Wood, and even if they were it might take 3 years. And if he sucks worst case you just don't pay him next summer.

[Dick Jones]

Good low risk, high reward move for Dallas. Pretty doubtful whoever they draft at 26 would have been better than Wood, and even if they were it might take 3 years. And if he sucks worst case you just don't pay him next summer.
Every prospect in their draft range was 50/50 at best if they pan out or not, and at least a year away from being a contributor. And knowing the Mavs they probably would have taken a guaranteed bust like Walker Kessler.

Anybody who thinks this is bad for Dallas is either retarded or a subgenus of retarded known as Rockets fan.

[Neo.]

Valuable piece that no one wanted to trade for. Dallas isn’t making this move without an extension for him.

Look at how many teams Wood has bounced around on. Your logic makes no sense because he looked his best offensively on the Rockets. He can’t set screens or play defense. He’s a quitter. There’s no excuse for quitting. Won’t be long before he refuses to check back into a game again because Kidd raised his voice.

are you retarded? :lmao we are talking about a guy at 20 who had to develop and work his way into the league after being undrafted and left to the g league, not some lottery pick with a clear skillset to immediately be an impact player but turned out to be a monumental disappointment everywhere he went like marquese chriss

[Neo.]

and no one is expecting him to be a star, nor were the assets given up anything resembling a package that would be given for a star (or anything close to one)

the only expectations are that he be less incompetent than dwight powell, snag some rebounds and hit open 3s. anything more is just a bonus

[MI21]

Great gamble for Dallas - Wood has shown some ok switch ability but is awful defending guys with a post game or strength. He could be unreal offensively with Luka.

[djohn2oo8]

The funniest argument Mav fans are making…”Wood didn’t sign up to play for a losing team” as if that hasn’t been all his ass has ever known, losing teams :lol

[Neo.]

The funniest argument Mav fans are making…”Wood didn’t sign up to play for a losing team” as if that hasn’t been all his ass has ever known, losing teams :lol

no one said that at all. just that he hasn't been on any actually good teams

and tbqh he signed with Houston probably expecting them to actually be a solid team, only for your hero James harden to show up 50 lbs overweight and completely uninterested in playing basketball for that pathetic excuse of a franchise :lmao :lmao :lmao rockets

[KobesAchilles]

Wood is a horrible defender. I mean horrible. I can’t stress this enough. Luka isn’t going to pass him the ball enough for him to be happy and he’s going to pout about touches. The dude is immature that way. A Luka/Wood pick n roll prospect on defense is something that other teams will exploit over and over again.

But yes he is better than Powell. A traffic cone is better than him. I just don’t think this actually upgrades them too much bc I doubt Wood will be finishing games anyways by seasons end

[JamStone]

no one said that at all. just that he hasn't been on any actually good teams


Not for nothing, but he did play for a 60 win Milwaukee Bucks team. He could just never earn anything more than garbage minutes and he was waived rather quickly and unceremoniously.

He has talent. Most of it surface and superficial talent. Can he produce at a level as a meaningful rotation player to help a team win? That’s still a very much unanswered question with him. I’m sure he can be a 15-20 minute off the bench guy on a good team. But can he be a starter playing 30+ minutes a game who is more than just the fourth or fifth option when he’s on the court? Can he actually not get bullied defensively at or around the rim? His time in Houston didn’t really answer those types of questions about his talent as it relates to winning.

[Neo.]

Not for nothing, but he did play for a 60 win Milwaukee Bucks team. He could just never earn anything more than garbage minutes and he was waived rather quickly and unceremoniously.

He has talent. Most of it surface and superficial talent. Can he produce at a level as a meaningful rotation player to help a team win? That’s still a very much unanswered question with him. I’m sure he can be a 15-20 minute off the bench guy on a good team. But can he be a starter playing 30+ minutes a game who is more than just the fourth or fifth option when he’s on the court? Can he actually not get bullied defensively at or around the rim? His time in Houston didn’t really answer those types of questions about his talent as it relates to winning.

tbh i dont expect him to be the mavs answer to their issues at center, but its a definite upgrade, while giving up very little. if he buys into the system, the mavs offense will be absolutely incredible at the very least. would like him to be better defensively, but if they could overcome teams with gobert/mitchell and book/cp3/ayton with an equally bad defensive center with no offensive skill other than catching lobs, i think wood can do fine by actually being able to rebound, dribble drive, finish, and hit wide open 3s

[Dick Jones]

The funniest argument Mav fans are making…”Wood didn’t sign up to play for a losing team” as if that hasn’t been all his ass has ever known, losing teams :lol
You dumped Harden for peanuts immediately after signing Wood :lmao

[Dick Jones]

Not for nothing, but he did play for a 60 win Milwaukee Bucks team. He could just never earn anything more than garbage minutes and he was waived rather quickly and unceremoniously.

He has talent. Most of it surface and superficial talent. Can he produce at a level as a meaningful rotation player to help a team win? That’s still a very much unanswered question with him. I’m sure he can be a 15-20 minute off the bench guy on a good team. But can he be a starter playing 30+ minutes a game who is more than just the fourth or fifth option when he’s on the court? Can he actually not get bullied defensively at or around the rim? His time in Houston didn’t really answer those types of questions about his talent as it relates to winning.
He’s not a perfect fit but there never was a perfect fit. Myles Turner would have been great, but there’s no incentive for Indiana to trade him, and a s&t with Brunson is almost impossible to pull off due to cap rules. Not to mention he’s injured more than Porzingis.

With Wood you at least get KP-ish offensive skills, a guy who is decent on switches, and a better rebounder than Powell. This is easily a huge upgrade over Powell, and the best deal you could have gotten with the limited assets available.

If someone had a realistic trade that’s better than this, I’m all ears. Most trade offers are retarded stuff like “jUsT gO GeT dEaNdRe aYtOn oR zAcH LaViNe” with no clue that the salary cap rules make those trades basically impossible for Dallas.

[JamStone]

The deal is fine for Dallas. Not suggesting it’s a bad deal. I don’t think it’s a great deal or that Wood is some big time acquisition. And it’s not a bad deal for Houston either. I really don’t see Wood on an expiring deal having much more value than they got. It’s a solid gamble for Dallas because they didn’t give much to get him.

I actually don’t know what to expect from Wood on Dallas and with him playing alongside Luka. We don’t know if he’s improved as a player from a winning approach perspective, his mental game, his team game. I don’t think any of us know. Because since he’s gotten his opportunities in the NBA, it’s really just him putting up good individual numbers on bad teams. We’ll find out. Only time will tell, and time makes fools of us all.

And Dallas can still go after a real center. Wood is really a power forward anyway. Slender 6’10 guy who doesn’t like to get physical down low. Even in the current league, he’s more of a PF than a center. He may still get center minutes, but his addition should not preclude adding another guy who plays center, or continuing to give Powell minutes.

[Isitjustme?]

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