Primo assigned to the g league

[tim_duncan_fan]

He heard us talking that shit lol.

Will watch after the big club disappoints me.

[BillMc]

Primo looks a 100X better defensively than last game. I haven't checked the box score but the first quarter is still going on and he has 2 blocks and 2 steals so far


Hes killing it on defense

Great news!!!

[Dejounte]

Lame coach took Primo out because he got into a scuffle .. im impressed he didnt back down from that douchebag

[emanueldavidginobili]

WOW Primos confidence, kid just pulled up from deeeep to hit back to back threes.

[Dejounte]

#30 Morris does not like to pass to Primo

[objective]

WOW Primos confidence, kid just pulled up from deeeep to hit back to back threes.

Primo has confidence? I think I know a guy who can swaggerjack him and flip that script.

:pop:

[BillMc]

Primo has confidence? I think I know a guy who can swaggerjack him and flip that script.

:pop:
:lol

[Dejounte]

Cacok is a really nice standout player. Basically plays like current Thaddeus Young but more reliable for points in the paint. An undersized center, but great garbage man.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo low key be talking shit, I love it.

[Dejounte]

HOLY SHIT HES GOT MOVESSSSS

man that behind the back dribble jumpshot is fucking nice

[Dejounte]

4th block by Primo

[BillMc]

Youngest player in the league....man, he's got potential....

[slick'81]

Youngest player in the league....man, he's got potential....

primo suave should be thankful pop is hiding him in g-league hell

[GB20]

How is primo going to get better if they only play one game a week? The spurs are doing this guy wrong.

[Leetonidas]

Highlight video of this game yet?

[Chomag]

We could be watching Primo but no instead we get to watch Forbes because Pop says so...

[Chomag]

Again, I hate it that Primo a lottery pick has to be in G league but we all know Pop would pull him out every time he started heating up just to fuck with his confidence. He's gotta get over himself and all that...

[BackHome]

Cacok is a really nice standout player. Basically plays like current Thaddeus Young but more reliable for points in the paint. An undersized center, but great garbage man.

Yeah I am starting to really like him he definitely kinda reminds me of Keldon in he just doesn’t give up and plays through the whistle. Also have to say Wieskamp is also looking really good his 3 pointer are looking much more natural you can tell he is feeling more relaxed. My underdog Nate also had a nice game.

[BackHome]

We could be watching Primo but no instead we get to watch Forbes because Pop says so...

Do you really want Pop to screw with this kid and bench him until he gets over himself?

[objective]

Again, I hate it that Primo a lottery pick has to be in G league but we all know Pop would pull him out every time he started heating up just to fuck with his confidence. He's gotta get over himself and all that...

Can't deny that.

Pop loves loves loves when a young player has a standout game, then telling the media how good the player was and how NOW Pop HAS to play him more ... Then hitting him with the DNP-CD.

That'll show him.

[LakerHater]

i dont understand WHY they dont play him in the NBA, he cant be any worse than Forbes!

[Dejounte]

What is most impressive is that Primo shows improvement on his obvious weaknesses quickly. It’s almost as if he watches tape of himself and identifies right away what he needs to do to get better.

[slick'81]

Forbes kids gotta eat

[dbestpro]

I am happy Primo is in g-league and not getting expose to the losing culture.

[jbspurs]

Let the kid learn from the big boys. It's not like the Spurs is trying to win championship this year. G league? Yes, if they're in the mix for a championship. But, that's not the case. This season will be the best time to look at talent they have. Forbes is Forbes, he is not going to elevate the team, he can't play PG, under size for shooting guard, can't play defense, requires help defense even when guarding a player about his size. Young will not be part of rebuild, Why not give playing time for Landale and see if he belongs in the big league? If Pop continues to bench their new guys then Spurs will be on the same situation next year even with a lottery pick.

[jbspurs]

Moody is only avg 6 mins a game and Kuminga spent an entire year in the G league. When the Spurs drafted Primo everyone knew he was going to spend a lot of time in the G league due to his position and being the youngest player in the draft.

Kuminga skiipped college and went to Gleague with Jalen Green to showcase their talent for the draft.

[SpurSpike]

What is most impressive is that Primo shows improvement on his obvious weaknesses quickly. It’s almost as if he watches tape of himself and identifies right away what he needs to do to get better.

After last game he played he was in an interview saying he had to apologize to the team for not being focused in the 1st half. Could not tell if he apologized because he genuinely wanted to or if it was one of those coaching things where he was basically humiliated and forced to...

[MultiTroll]

How about if Popped and Bryn are sent to GLeague and Primo and his coach are brought up to the Spurs?

[exstatic]

Three games into the season, a gleague team paid Primo some attention, got physical, and limited him to 10 points and 3 assists.

A gleague team did that.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Three games into the season, a gleague team paid Primo some attention, got physical, and limited him to 10 points and 3 assists.

A gleague team did that.
I'm guessing you didn't watch the full game? Every point he scored was impressive as hell and shot 5-11, wasn't like he shot 5-22 and he also had his best defensive game i've ever seen him play.

[exstatic]

I'm guessing you didn't watch the full game? Every point he scored was impressive as hell and shot 5-11, wasn't like he shot 5-22 and he also had his best defensive game i've ever seen him play.

The defense was nice, but no matter how nice the shots were, it was 10 points. A gleague team game planned him, and it worked.

[MultiTroll]

The defense was nice, but no matter how nice the shots were, it was 10 points. A gleague team game planned him, and it worked.
Did you watch the game?

[MultiTroll]

For non Sniffers, Primo had some excellent steals / deflections and assists.
"But but but he only scored 10 points"

Ya so what. Had a very good all around game.

[GB20]

Three games into the season, a gleague team paid Primo some attention, got physical, and limited him to 10 points and 3 assists.

A gleague team did that.
I think Primo was focusing more on the defense side. He said after game that he would like to get better in that end.

[CGD]

Haven’t been able to keep up with Austin team, but any early analysis on how he’s doing over there?

[BackHome]

Not to good today so far............

[emanueldavidginobili]

No one can convince me that Primo being in the G league is beneficial for his development. Never mind the competition he is playing but what means more to me imo is his teammates he's playing with...they all SUCK. Imagine being on the court with players that know how to set screens, know how to get open, or know how to share the ball and not just play for themselves because that's what 90% of these guys are doing, playing for themselves so they can get a contract and what not.

Primo would be flourishing and growing playing with DJ, Derrick and them. He's not growing nor learning playing with a bunch of guys that will never make the NBA and are just looking out for themselves. The G league is awful I can barley watch this shit lmao

[itzsoweezee]

No one can convince me that Primo being in the G league is beneficial for his development. Never mind the competition he is playing but what means more to me imo is his teammates he's playing with...they all SUCK. Imagine being on the court with players that know how to set screens, know how to get open, or know how to share the ball and not just play for themselves because that's what 90% of these guys are doing, playing for themselves so they can get a contract and what not.

Primo would be flourishing and growing playing with DJ, Derrick and them. He's not growing nor learning playing with a bunch of guys that will never make the NBA and are just looking out for themselves. The G league is awful I can barley watch this shit lmao

The G league is only good for developing future role players

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The defense was nice, but no matter how nice the shots were, it was 10 points. A gleague team game planned him, and it worked.

Not the point. He shot a decent percentage from the field, and by no means would be expected to be the main focus of the offense were he with the Spurs. He would be a bench and complimentary player. This isn't hard for other teams to manage this for their recent high draft picks.

[slick'81]

Trust the pop process

[ismael-robert]

Not the point. He shot a decent percentage from the field, and by no means would be expected to be the main focus of the offense were he with the Spurs. He would be a bench and complimentary player. This isn't hard for other teams to manage this for their recent high draft picks.

Not so sure. On this team he was looking like our first or second best player

[Chomag]

Yes there is always that chance that he's a bust but the fact is The Spurs chose him as their lottery pick and so they should be treating him as one. Primo won't even be up for rookie of the year discussions because of this nonsense.

[exstatic]

Yes there is always that chance that he's a bust but the fact is The Spurs chose him as their lottery pick and so they should be treating him as one. Primo won't even be up for rookie of the year discussions because of this nonsense.
It’s funny that you think any Spurs player has a shot at a league wide award now. Primo could start, drop 20/5/5 and not finish in the top 3.

[exstatic]

Noticed that no one bumped this for the game last night. 12 points, 3-9 shooting 0 assists, 5 TOs.

Yeah, he’s ready…

[KingKev]

Noticed that no one bumped this for the game last night. 12 points, 3-9 shooting 0 assists, 5 TOs.

Yeah, he’s ready…

Baby Kobe our saviour.

[R. DeMurre]

And if the goal is to have Primo be a tall PG or an important secondary ball handler in the future, it's important to note that he currently has more turnovers than assists through 4 G-League games-- a poor assist-to-turnover ratio is an issue that also plagued him in college and in the summer league.. those mocking the idea that he's in "dribbling school" at this point should at least concede that it is in fact an issue.

[Chinook]

He doesn't have to be "ready". I don't get why that's so hard to understand. Like most players, he can improve as he plays and take big leaps in the off-season. The Spurs simply don't have the developmental track record people think they to assume they have the only viable way of building guys up. You can argue that yhey aren't even league-average anymore.

[Chinook]

And if the goal is to have Primo be a tall PG or an important secondary ball handler in the future, it's important to note that he currently has more turnovers than assists through 4 G-League games-- a poor assist-to-turnover ratio is an issue that also plagued him in college and in the summer league.. those mocking the idea that he's in "dribbling school" at this point should concede that it is in fact an issue.

He can learn to dribble during the summer like most other players who have to work on it. If anything, his performance is suggesting he needs fundamental instruction rather than reps.

For what it's worth, the little I saw of Josh suggested his turnovers are awareness/IQ related rather than dribbling.

[SAGirl]

Bartelstein is the guy who got Zach Collins his joke deal, McDermott's nonsense, and DEMARRE CARROLL his bomb
I could be wrong, because its been a while, but I think he also got Davis Bertans an 80 million bomb of a deal… as much as I liked his 3 pt shooting that was definitely too high. (Side story, Spurs should have sold high on him in retrospect, but they had him buried behind Bryn and Belli when it came to 3 pt shooting prospects at the time).

[Kurgan]

He doesn't have to be "ready". I don't get why that's so hard to understand. Like most players, he can improve as he plays and take big leaps in the off-season. The Spurs simply don't have the developmental track record people think they to assume they have the only viable way of building guys up. You can argue that yhey aren't even league-average anymore.

Spurs definitely have to clean house on their coaching staff. They're light years behind other teams, especially when it comes to three point shooting.

[Atl Spur]

Spurs definitely have to clean house on their coaching staff. They're light years behind other teams, especially when it comes to three point shooting.

Really? Please stop posting

[objective]

Worst might be subjective, especially if the subject is g-league coaching

But the Spurs coaching staff has to be the least experienced bench of assistants in a long, long time since, well, the 19-20 Spurs I think had a combined 1 year front row experience, though Tim Duncan brought his own high level of game experience. I don't think Hammon even moved to the front row until 18-19, because at least on bkref it still shows Messina, Udoka and Borrego for the 2 years before.

That's a combined front row bench experience between her, Johnson, and Nielsen a combined total of 4 seasons of front row coaching experience coming into this season. More obviously if you want to count second row and intern experience but not much. It's not like they have a ton of coaching experience outside of the NBA either.

That is a shocking amount of inexperience. And it's been the trend since Messina and Udoka took off.

Even giving them their intern and second row years it's still the least experienced front row assistants in the league, and not just NBA experience, any coaching experience.

From perusing Basketball Reference many teams have 1 or more assistant that by themselves have more experience than the Spurs assistants combined, and usually also has years of head coaching experience on top of that in either the NBA, college, international or even high school. Nielsen spent 1 year coaching in Austin, Hammon and Johnson have no head coaching experience other than summer league stints.

The closest in terms of inexperience might be Boston, though I think there is a combined 7 years of college head coaching there.

Arguably the 13-14 Spurs were similarly lacking in experience with Bud and Brown taking head coaching jobs in the summer and Udoka only having 1 year of experience and Marks with 0 but Boylen had been coaching forever, over a decade in the NBA as an assistant and 4 years head coaching in college at Utah plus years as a college assistant.

Have the Spurs been well served by having such inexperience on the bench next to Pop?

[MultiTroll]

Have the Spurs been well served by having such inexperience on the bench next to Pop?
Does it matter as far as game strategy and outcomes who Grandpa Control Freak has next to him? Literally no sane coach in the NBA would pair Bryn Bryn and Patty as their lockdown perimeter D pair.
Seems his MO is to have Yes Men around him regardless.

Remember the video of Timmy Dunks and Becky looking at what appeared to be a lineup card and having a "WTF is he doing?" type conversation.
Pop doesn't appear to listen to any of his assistants anyways.
2014 was coached by Timmy Dunks. I won't be convinced otherwise.

[spurraider21]

Noticed that no one bumped this for the game last night. 12 points, 3-9 shooting 0 assists, 5 TOs.

Yeah, he’s ready…
impossible to develop NBA players in the NBA

[objective]

Does it matter as far as game strategy and outcomes who Grandpa Control Freak has next to him? Literally no sane coach in the NBA would pair Bryn Bryn and Patty as their lockdown perimeter D pair.
Seems his MO is to have Yes Men around him regardless.

Remember the video of Timmy Dunks and Becky looking at what appeared to be a lineup card and having a "WTF is he doing?" type conversation.
Pop doesn't appear to listen to any of his assistants anyways.
2014 was coached by Timmy Dunks. I won't be convinced otherwise.

I think I'm starting to feel bad for Hammon, should have gotten off this sinking ship while she could, even if it was for another assistant job. Messina, Udoka, Hardy, even Duncan, they saw this Titanic sinking and breaking apart.

I don't think she'll be lining up too many interviews as the lead assistant for a 20 win team.

Especially when she's still not designated as the lead assistant. Still has to do postgame radio hits like the other nobody coaches. Lead assistant does the pregame, 2nd and 3rd rotate the postgame, at least that's how it used to be.

How's it going to look for her resume when on a 20 win team when Pop gets tossed against whatever team that Mitch Johnson takes over because he scouted OKC that week?

[objective]

Anybody see that Giddey stat, the one where he became one of only 3 players in history to get 100 rebounds and 100 assists in his first 20 games with Lebron and LaMelo?

Shame on OKC for playing him minutes in the NBA on a lottery team. Doesn't Presti realize the damage he can do to his young player if he doesn't hone his craft against g-league scrubs?

[MI21]

Anybody see that Giddey stat, the one where he became one of only 3 players in history to get 100 rebounds and 100 assists in his first 20 games with Lebron and LaMelo?

Shame on OKC for playing him minutes in the NBA on a lottery team. Doesn't Presti realize the damage he can do to his young player if he doesn't hone his craft against g-league scrubs?

Yeah, it's inexcusable. I posted the same thing in this thread 4 weeks ago when Giddey was outperforming expectations - that's only continued and on a better team than the Spurs as well. It's absolutely fucking stupid to not be letting him play, it doesn't need to be a lot, just 15mpg would be enough...

[slick'81]

Poor primo

[exstatic]

Anybody see that Giddey stat, the one where he became one of only 3 players in history to get 100 rebounds and 100 assists in his first 20 games with Lebron and LaMelo?

Shame on OKC for playing him minutes in the NBA on a lottery team. Doesn't Presti realize the damage he can do to his young player if he doesn't hone his craft against g-league scrubs?

Yeah, but his eFG% is an awful 45%. His TS% is 46.5. He’s on a shitty team, so no one cares, but if he weren’t, teams would just back off and force him to shoot that horrible jumper.

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Yeah, it's inexcusable. I posted the same thing in this thread 4 weeks ago when Giddey was outperforming expectations - that's only continued and on a better team than the Spurs as well. It's absolutely fucking stupid to not be letting him play, it doesn't need to be a lot, just 15mpg would be enough...

15-20 would be ideal. Jock also 15-20. Weiskamp 10-15.

[jbspurs]

Does it matter as far as game strategy and outcomes who Grandpa Control Freak has next to him? Literally no sane coach in the NBA would pair Bryn Bryn and Patty as their lockdown perimeter D pair.
Seems his MO is to have Yes Men around him regardless.

Remember the video of Timmy Dunks and Becky looking at what appeared to be a lineup card and having a "WTF is he doing?" type conversation.
Pop doesn't appear to listen to any of his assistants anyways.
2014 was coached by Timmy Dunks. I won't be convinced otherwise.

Pops new combo Bryn and Jones. lol

[Spurs Homer]

Pop knows what the fuck he is doing…

just look at how Derrick White is taking over the nba now…

[Atl Spur]

Primos time will come, stop trying to rush his development.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primos time will come, stop trying to rush his development.
But why can't we let him develop with and against NBA players?

[Atl Spur]

But why can't we let him develop with and against NBA players?

He will get his time probably on the back half of the season.....it’s really not a big deal as most are making it. Very few athletes come in pro ready.

[JeffDuncan]

But why can't we let him develop with and against NBA players?


Because he’s two years away from being two years away. That’s their story and they’re sticking to it.

[itzsoweezee]

Yeah, but his eFG% is an awful 45%. His TS% is 46.5. He’s on a shitty team, so no one cares, but if he weren’t, teams would just back off and force him to shoot that horrible jumper.

He’s on a team that’s better than the Spurs. And he’s getting real experience, not this jv shit

[exstatic]

But why can't we let him develop with and against NBA players?

In addition to building his game, his confidence needs to be built up as well. He’s not even nineteen yet, and had minimal college playing time.

[exstatic]

He’s on a team that’s better than the Spurs. And he’s getting real experience, not this jv shit

:lol OKC can’t even tank right. Giddey is showing no improvement in any of his areas of weakness. His FG% is 40, his 3G% is 28, and his FT% is 67.

Sactramento has developed players the way you want the Spurs to for over a decade. Almost all of them have been failures with two exceptions, both of which were top 5 picks from KY, Boogie and Fox. Tyreke Evans averaged 20/5/5 and was ROY. He was traded at the end of his rookie contract, bounced around, and was out of the league after year 10, at the age of 29.

His total win shares were 28.4 and his BPM was 0.8. He’s the best case Sacto failure.

Late first round pick WSs who didn’t make a career with SA.

Kyle Anderson pick #30 24.1 WS
Cory Joseph pick #29 26.7 WS
George Hill pick #26 67.9 WS
Splitter pick #28 25.3 WS

[spurraider21]

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[GB20]

I hope Primo gets some minutes tonight but knowing Pop Forbes is going to end up getting all the minutes.

[slick'81]

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if you smeeeeeeellllllll !! what :pop:ass is cooking

[Atl Spur]

:lol OKC can’t even tank right. Giddey is showing no improvement in any of his areas of weakness. His FG% is 40, his 3G% is 28, and his FT% is 67.

Sactramento has developed players the way you want the Spurs to for over a decade. Almost all of them have been failures with two exceptions, both of which were top 5 picks from KY, Boogie and Fox. Tyreke Evans averaged 20/5/5 and was ROY. He was traded at the end of his rookie contract, bounced around, and was out of the league after year 10, at the age of 29.

His total win shares were 28.4 and his BPM was 0.8. He’s the best case Sacto failure.

Late first round pick WSs who didn’t make a career with SA.

Kyle Anderson pick #30 24.1 WS
Cory Joseph pick #29 26.7 WS
George Hill pick #26 67.9 WS
Splitter pick #28 25.3 WS

Don’t waste your time...it’s futile!

[jbspurs]

I hope Primo gets some minutes tonight but knowing Pop Forbes is going to end up getting all the minutes.

Forbes played 22.55 magnificent minutes, 2pts. 0-5 from 3, 1 reb, 1 TO, -14 :rollin

[itzsoweezee]

:lol OKC can’t even tank right. Giddey is showing no improvement in any of his areas of weakness. His FG% is 40, his 3G% is 28, and his FT% is 67.

Sactramento has developed players the way you want the Spurs to for over a decade. Almost all of them have been failures with two exceptions, both of which were top 5 picks from KY, Boogie and Fox. Tyreke Evans averaged 20/5/5 and was ROY. He was traded at the end of his rookie contract, bounced around, and was out of the league after year 10, at the age of 29.

His total win shares were 28.4 and his BPM was 0.8. He’s the best case Sacto failure.

Late first round pick WSs who didn’t make a career with SA.

Kyle Anderson pick #30 24.1 WS
Cory Joseph pick #29 26.7 WS
George Hill pick #26 67.9 WS
Splitter pick #28 25.3 WS

What’s the way I want to? In the NBA rather than the g league? If that’s the case, there are a ton of examples of teams playing their lottery picks in the nba. No need to cherry pick the most dysfunctional franchise in the league.

Like I’ve said before, the g league is good for developing role players. The Spurs don’t need role players. They need stars. Star players don’t become stars by playing in the g league.

[GB20]

What’s the way I want to? In the NBA rather than the g league? If that’s the case, there are a ton of examples of teams playing their lottery picks in the nba. No need to cherry pick the most dysfunctional franchise in the league.

Like I’ve said before, the g league is good for developing role players. The Spurs don’t need role players. They need stars. Star players don’t become stars by playing in the g league.
Exactly!! The G-league is becoming overate nowadays. We had so many great players from the old days and they never went to a fucking G-league.

[spurraider21]

thank god he only played a few minutes while forbes shit the bed for half the game. primo was about 3 seconds of playtime away from spontaneously combusting

[Sugus]

thank god he only played a few minutes while forbes shit the bed for half the game. primo was about 3 seconds of playtime away from spontaneously combusting

:lol

Tonight's game really showed the true reason Primo's better off in Austin. Pop simply won't play him, much less give him any sort of spotlight. I sure wonder what Becky's philosophy on young players' PT is, tbh.

[objective]

:lol OKC can’t even tank right. Giddey is showing no improvement in any of his areas of weakness. His FG% is 40, his 3G% is 28, and his FT% is 67.

Sactramento has developed players the way you want the Spurs to for over a decade. Almost all of them have been failures with two exceptions, both of which were top 5 picks from KY, Boogie and Fox. Tyreke Evans averaged 20/5/5 and was ROY. He was traded at the end of his rookie contract, bounced around, and was out of the league after year 10, at the age of 29.

His total win shares were 28.4 and his BPM was 0.8. He’s the best case Sacto failure.

Late first round pick WSs who didn’t make a career with SA.

Kyle Anderson pick #30 24.1 WS
Cory Joseph pick #29 26.7 WS
George Hill pick #26 67.9 WS
Splitter pick #28 25.3 WS

Wait .... so Jimmer Fredette and Thomas Robinson failed in the NBA because they didn't get developed in the g-league, as opposed to just being mis-evaluated and poor draft picks?

Well .... how do you explain Giorgios Papagiannis and Skal Labissiere, who did play and 'develop' in the g-league just like you like?

Maybe ... the Kings have been trash at drafting.

I don't get the hate on Evans. His career was derailed by injuries (at one point 3 knee surgeries in 9 months plus a blood clot in his calf) and finally suspension. Was he the most efficient guard of all time? No. Would playing in the g-league have made a difference? Naahh.

[objective]

George Hill is an interesting example.

Guess how many career minutes in the g-league he has?

FG%, TS%, EFG%, WS/48 all were his career worst in his rookie year.

How did he ever improve without EVER playing one single second in the g-league?

[Fireball]

George Hill is an interesting example.

Guess how many career minutes in the g-league he has?

FG%, TS%, EFG%, WS/48 all were his career worst in his rookie year.

How did he ever improve without EVER playing one single second in the g-league?

hey, he was Pops favourite player ... and I doubt we had so many options at his position when he was playing

[exstatic]

Wait .... so Jimmer Fredette and Thomas Robinson failed in the NBA because they didn't get developed in the g-league, as opposed to just being mis-evaluated and poor draft picks?

Well .... how do you explain Giorgios Papagiannis and Skal Labissiere, who did play and 'develop' in the g-league just like you like?

Maybe ... the Kings have been trash at drafting.

I don't get the hate on Evans. His career was derailed by injuries (at one point 3 knee surgeries in 9 months plus a blood clot in his calf) and finally suspension. Was he the most efficient guard of all time? No. Would playing in the g-league have made a difference? Naahh.
Evans
Bagley
Cauley-Stein
Stauskas
McLemore

None of these guys would have benefited from some gleague time? A string of top 10 picks busting like a string of firecrackers…

[Atl Spur]

Even if he plays for the big club ( craps the bed ), the haters will complain :) . Let’s leave this to the professionals boys and girls! He’s 18...... no rush. He’ll get minutes when he earns them.

[duncan2k5]

Even if he plays for the big club ( craps the bed ), the haters will complain :) . Let’s leave this to the professionals boys and girls! He’s 18...... no rush. He’ll get minutes when he earns them.

He has to play to earn them... I'll keep saying this... Giannis was drafted later than Primo and said he didn't want to play in the g-league because he won't develop as fast... His coach listened to him and now he is an MVP and champion... Top 5 player in the league... He would have wasted his career if he was drafted under this current Pop

[exstatic]

George Hill is an interesting example.

Guess how many career minutes in the g-league he has?

FG%, TS%, EFG%, WS/48 all were his career worst in his rookie year.

How did he ever improve without EVER playing one single second in the g-league?

George hill had 4 years of D1 ball, and was 22 YO when drafted. You’ll notice that Tre Jones, who was 20, and played two years and over 2200 minutes at Duke, plays regularly. He did a quick stint in the Gubble last year, but is currently playing
rotation minutes.

Primo played less than 700 minutes at AL, and was legit their 4th option. If you’re still having trouble understanding, think of it as a second college season that he’s being handsomely paid for, and we line jumped everyone in next years draft top 5 to get him.

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Some good discussion here folks. I come down overwhelmingly on the play him now side, but exstatic is doing a fine job pushing back.

This is why I like ST.

[GAustex]

Primo should get every minute Forbes plays
Forbes should be cut

[rudwick]

I think he needs PT in both leagues. G-league to learn to dominate a game and NBA to get used to going up against the big boys.

[Chomag]

Do we honestly want Forbes as a mentor for Primo?
It can't be healthy Pop telling this kid to sit, listen, and watch what Forbes does to get NBA minutes...

[MultiTroll]

Do we honestly want Forbes as a mentor for Primo?
It can't be healthy Pop telling this kid to sit, listen, and watch what Forbes does to get NBA minutes...
Rack it Xs 500.

Just as the core watching Forbes, LMA, Patty and Pop's other pets vs developing did NO good.

[jermaine]

Primo should get every minute Forbes plays
Forbes should be cut

I actually like Forbes alot but this is true. Forbes isn't paying good basketball an cant play Defense. He can't create his own shot either. I'd love to see Tre Jones an Primo come off the bench.

[Chinook]

Somehow, guys who didn't play a second of college ball were able to come into the league and develop without the d-league even existing. Stop being lazy. The list of guys who develop who don't play substantial d-league time is way longer than the one for guys who do. I like the d-league and the opportunity it allows hundreds of players. But there's no good evidence that it's better than the NBA at developing players. I don't want to just copy-paste shit I said early in the thread, but suffice to say nothing's happened so far that changed anything. Josh will eventually learn to dominate the league consistently, just like literally any other player on the Spurs could do except maybe Wieskamp.

A lot of his technique with probably look better too against non-NBA competition. We already know this. But what is likely to happen is that he comes up to the league looking the same as he did before. More than many sports, the NBA is a league of margins, and playing against scrubs will make Primo look way more advanced than he is. The reality is that improving skills is something that will probably take years of growth and off-season coaching. It's not obvious that getting a crash course in "superstar 101" is better than getting a year of playing a bit role every night. As stated before, it's a pure fabrication that Primo can't get a solid MPG role with the team right away. Pop can just will that such, and it'd be. Do we "all know Pop will play Bryn over Primo"? Yes of course. But we also know that's dumb as hell, so why are we using that flawed policy as the logical justification for sending Primo to Austin? As a coach of a bad team with few legit prospects, Pop should be able to give Primo good developmental minutes. That he won't is a flaw with him, not with those who want Josh to stay in SA.

[Chinook]

Even if he plays for the big club ( craps the bed ), the haters will complain :) . Let’s leave this to the professionals boys and girls! He’s 18...... no rush. He’ll get minutes when he earns them.

How boring must your Spurs experience be to believe that everything that happens is the best it could happen? "Professionals" disagree and make mistakes. We don't have to just defer to them all the time. That's idolatry, not fandom.

It's all part of Pop's plan.

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As I said, powerful sniffery.

[MultiTroll]

I actually like Forbes alot but this is true. Forbes isn't paying good basketball an cant play Defense. He can't create his own shot either. I'd love to see Tre Jones an Primo come off the bench.
Exactly.
This need not be a "Forbes or Primo" only call.

Sniffers: But but but, they play the same position therefore can only be switched out for each other.

Todays somewhat positionless NBA says otherwise, plus i have seen Pet Bryn go in and only player come out (KJ) more then once.

Primo, Tre Jones and Jock all being robbed while Pet Bryn racks up minutes.

[exstatic]

I actually like Forbes alot but this is true. Forbes isn't paying good basketball an cant play Defense. He can't create his own shot either. I'd love to see Tre Jones an Primo come off the bench.

I hate Forbes, but…aren’t we trying to tank?

Speaking of which, Wall is now pressing Houston to activate him, probably to force movement on a trade. He’s not my favorite, but has enough talent to mess them up by winning some games.

[exstatic]

Exactly.
This need not be a "Forbes or Primo" only call.

Sniffers: But but but, they play the same position therefore can only be switched out for each other.

Todays somewhat positionless NBA says otherwise, plus i have seen Pet Bryn go in and only player come out (KJ) more then once.

Primo, Tre Jones and Jock all being robbed while Pet Bryn racks up minutes.

Tre Jones should ABSOLUTELY be playing Forbes minutes. If you’re trying to win, that is…

[Atl Spur]

How boring must your Spurs experience be to believe that everything that happens is the best it could happen? "Professionals" disagree and make mistakes. We don't have to just defer to them all the time. That's idolatry, not fandom.

It's all part of Pop's plan.

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As I said, powerful sniffery.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion :) . I’ll stick with the guy who got us to 5 chips JS .

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Forbes played 22.55 magnificent minutes, 2pts. 0-5 from 3, 1 reb, 1 TO, -14 :rollin

It was crazy that Forbes got so many minutes that game while shooting bad.

this is coming from a person that doesn’t mind Joshua Primo playing in the g league but Forbes shouldn’t have gotten the minutes he did playing as bad as he did last game.

[exstatic]

18 points on 21 FGA.

[MultiTroll]

Tre Jones should ABSOLUTELY be playing Forbes minutes. If you’re trying to win, that is…
This is part of the "It's all part of CIA Pops plan" fantasy?
:lol
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[BackHome]

I hate Forbes, but…aren’t we trying to tank?

Speaking of which, Wall is now pressing Houston to activate him, probably to force movement on a trade. He’s not my favorite, but has enough talent to mess them up by winning some games.

Yeah the league really needs to step in I don't know how they letting Houston and OK last year get away with sitting very good players all year?

[objective]

Evans
Bagley
Cauley-Stein
Stauskas
McLemore

None of these guys would have benefited from some gleague time? A string of top 10 picks busting like a string of firecrackers…

No to most of them. Cauley Stein played more games in college than George Hill. At a real school in a real conference not the Mickey Mouse summit league

What about Papagiannis?

[jbspurs]

It was crazy that Forbes got so many minutes that game while shooting bad.

this is coming from a person that doesn’t mind Joshua Primo playing in the g league but Forbes shouldn’t have gotten the minutes he did playing as bad as he did last game.

Only Pop knows the answer.

[jbspurs]

Do we honestly want Forbes as a mentor for Primo?
It can't be healthy Pop telling this kid to sit, listen, and watch what Forbes does to get NBA minutes...

Championship pedigree:lmao

[exstatic]

No to most of them. Cauley Stein played more games in college than George Hill. At a real school in a real conference not the Mickey Mouse summit league

What about Papagiannis?

Late pick. Also, international and experienced. Comps for Primo would be American, and high picks.

[objective]

Late pick. Also, international and experienced. Comps for Primo would be American, and high picks.

Papagiannis was the 13th pick, was 18 and turned 19 a week or so after the draft, and had only played like 12 minutes a game in the domestic Greek league and 30 total minutes in Euroleague.

And back to Evans, did you watch the g-league back in 09-10? The quality was light years under even today's g-league. The difference in size and athleticism was such a gulf that it's absurd to think Evans could have gotten anything out of it.

He would have averaged 40-10-10 without much trouble. The ease at which he would have been able to produce would probably have made any bad habits even worse while doing nothing to prepare him for NBA length, size, strength and athleticism.

[duncan2150]

We have already talked about it but playing primo as the main ballhandler is a little bit strange imo.

Offcourse he will improve his BH Skills and could be more effective in the future but he is not a PG and will not play PG in the league. I hope he will play more like a SG.

[Atl Spur]

We have already talked about it but playing primo as the main ballhandler is a little bit strange imo.

Offcourse he will improve his BH Skills and could be more effective in the future but he is not a PG and will not play PG in the league. I hope he will play more like a SG.
We don’t know what he is or can be but guess who has an idea?????

[Dejounte]

We have already talked about it but playing primo as the main ballhandler is a little bit strange imo.

Offcourse he will improve his BH Skills and could be more effective in the future but he is not a PG and will not play PG in the league. I hope he will play more like a SG.

Yeah, he’s not a PG but it’s good for him to have those reps.

[exstatic]

We don’t know what he is or can be but guess who has an idea?????

This. He’s fucking 18.

Everyone thought Devin was a catch and shoot 3 and D, but he turned out to be a 3 level scorer who can create for himself in less than a full season’s worth of games. Let the Spurs unlock all of the cheat codes before you decide, say 2 or 3 seasons?

[Chinook]

This isn't Primo's only opportunity to become whatever he's going to be. He doesn't have to play a ton of PG minutes now to eventually become a play-maker. Kawhi didn't become a play-maker until after he was done with the Spurs. Insofar as getting reps now can affect his game, him focusing on a role he probably won't get any time soon in lieu of learning how to be an off-ball NBA player is likely to hinder his effectiveness with the big club. They don't NEED a wing who constantly wants to have the ball in his hands in order to take inefficient shots. Like, OMG they definitely do not need that. Vassell is a three-level scorer and all, but thankfully he didn't spend his entire rookie season playing PG and learning to ISO on d-leaguers. Nothing about having a smaller role now prevents him from growing into a bigger one in the future.

[exstatic]

This isn't Primo's only opportunity to become whatever he's going to be. He doesn't have to play a ton of PG minutes now to eventually become a play-maker. Kawhi didn't become a play-maker until after he was done with the Spurs. Insofar as getting reps now can affect his game, him focusing on a role he probably won't get any time soon in lieu of learning how to be an off-ball NBA player is likely to hinder his effectiveness with the big club. They don't NEED a wing who constantly wants to have the ball in his hands in order to take inefficient shots. Like, OMG they definitely do not need that. Vassell is a three-level scorer and all, but thankfully he didn't spend his entire rookie season playing PG and learning to ISO on d-leaguers. Nothing about having a smaller role now prevents him from growing into a bigger one in the future.

Vassell had two years of D1 ball, and was about two years older when he stepped onto an NBA court. There also wasn’t much of a gleague last year. Even our 2ways spent the whole season in SA, due to rule changes, in order to provide covid backstopping.

[The Truth #6]

I still think a middle ground is needed. Some minutes now in SA to acclimate to the pace while he figures out a role, and then back to the G to work on deficiencies.

[duncan2k5]

I think he needs PT in both leagues. G-league to learn to dominate a game and NBA to get used to going up against the big boys.

How did Giannis ever learn to dominate without playing in the g league? Matter of fact, I can't think of one star player that has played in the g league...imo that's where role players go to learn to be role players

[Chinook]

Vassell had two years of D1 ball, and was about two years older when he stepped onto an NBA court. There also wasn’t much of a gleague last year. Even our 2ways spent the whole season in SA, due to rule changes, in order to provide covid backstopping.

I know, and as a result, Devin didn't have the year of star treatment or high-minute reps that are supposed to be so important for his development. But he arguably made the biggest year-two improvement that we've seen. That suggests it's not necessary to go to the d-league to get that improvement, so it shouldn't be used as a justification to send him down.

Also, plenty of NBA players came directly from high school. There's definitely a precedent for 18-year-olds being able to make the transition. Josh doesn't have to be a good player right away to justify a rotation spot.

[duncan2k5]

You are definitely entitled to your opinion :) . I’ll stick with the guy who got us to 5 chips JS .

Who? Tim Duncan? Even he couldn't take Pops coaching decisions and retired both as a player and as a coach

[duncan2k5]

This. He’s fucking 18.

Everyone thought Devin was a catch and shoot 3 and D, but he turned out to be a 3 level scorer who can create for himself in less than a full season’s worth of games. Let the Spurs unlock all of the cheat codes before you decide, say 2 or 3 seasons?

Guess how we found that out? By him playing his position in actual nba games

[duncan2k5]

Vassell had two years of D1 ball, and was about two years older when he stepped onto an NBA court. There also wasn’t much of a gleague last year. Even our 2ways spent the whole season in SA, due to rule changes, in order to provide covid backstopping.

One word...giannis

[rjv]

18 points on 21 FGA.

i guess he's been given the green light on taking threes cause he sure didn't seem to be shy about it. it was a bad shooting night for both him and wieskamp (a combined 3 of 17).

[The Truth #6]

Bottom line: can he replace Forbes right now? Yes. He played a similar reduced role at Alabama where he shot open 3s. That’s actually an advantage for him: he is ok adapting and won’t pout for touches. I waited a month for dust to settle, I’m ready for Primo minutes. If nothing else, the team needs to sell fucking tickets and there’s only so many gimmick uniforms they can bust out to try and get fans excited.

[KobesAchilles]

How did Giannis ever learn to dominate without playing in the g league? Matter of fact, I can't think of one star player that has played in the g league...imo that's where role players go to learn to be role players
100% this

People saying he's only 18. Then play him 12 minutes a game. We have the room for him. Give Primo ALL of Forbes minutes. All of them. Why is Forbes even playing? Every star player plays in the fucking NBA not the G-League. Giannis was 18. KD and Westbrook and Harden were 19. Booker was 19. Mitchell was 19. When you are a bad team, you can find minutes for him to play and learn the fucking system.

Also how many players have we actually developed using this system? Best I ccan think of iss White and tbh that's not exactly what we are hoping Primo becomes

[exstatic]

i guess he's been given the green light on taking threes cause he sure didn't seem to be shy about it. it was a bad shooting night for both him and wieskamp (a combined 3 of 17).

Progress. In the previous game, he allowed them to limit his shots, essentially take him out of the offense. This is step 2, not letting them take you out of the offense. He’ll learn to shoot better when defended this way.

[exstatic]

I know, and as a result, Devin didn't have the year of star treatment or high-minute reps that are supposed to be so important for his development. But he arguably made the biggest year-two improvement that we've seen. That suggests it's not necessary to go to the d-league to get that improvement, so it shouldn't be used as a justification to send him down.

Also, plenty of NBA players came directly from high school. There's definitely a precedent for 18-year-olds being able to make the transition. Josh doesn't have to be a good player right away to justify a rotation spot.
They’re not the same player in the same situation. Age and experience were not alike. Keep ignoring that if you want.

[Chinook]

They’re not the same player in the same situation. Age and experience were not alike. Keep ignoring that if you want.

I'm "ignoring" it, because you don't mean it. You've listed guys like WCS as "could've used d-league time", when that guy played five years of NCAA. Stauskas played two years of Big 10 ball. No problem pretending like that still meant the d-league was necessary. The only difference in their situations is that you want one of them to support your point today and wanted another to support your point a couple of days ago. My point has always been that it's flimsy logic to assume that guys need big-minute roles against lesser competition to become NBA players. That holds for all of the players we've talked about in this thread. Some guys need to be locked away, and some team situations require it even if the players don't need it. But the Spurs use the same approach with everyone when they can get away with it, and that doesn't make sense.

It's a questionable way to develop players to eschew learning to be a role-player in order to get star reps. It doesn't prepare them to play in a league where they probably won't be a star and in an offense where they need to do more things than just call their own numbers. No, and energy big like WCS and a shooter like NS didn't need d-league time, and a shooter like Primo doesn't NEED it either. That doesn't mean he's going to be a great NBA player immediately. But he's not a great NBA player right now and wouldn't be even if he were dominating the d-league. That's just not how development works. He'll improve most during this summer, regardless of what he does now. The difference is that he'll be able to fit on the team much more easily if he spent this season playing off NBA players rather than wrecking guys he's clearly more talented than. May as well send him to the YMCA for a year.

[MannyIsGod]

Primo can't be any worse than forbes tbh I don't see the benefit for not playing him on the main team.

[KobesAchilles]

They’re not the same player in the same situation. Age and experience were not alike. Keep ignoring that if you want.
The situation Primo finds himself in is that he is playing for a bottom 5 organization in the league. And also being the main guy on a team for a year at the GL only works if that is what you want him to be for the main team. But lets say that he does spend the whole year off the main team, and then the next year he plays like what once every 3 games? Then 3 years in he gets his 15 minutes a game maybe. How is this a good development plan at all? It has never worked.

Play the kid ALL of bryn's minutes. It's like 12 a game so it's enough where he gest experience and gets to learn how to be a pro. Let him learn from the leaders on the team and Pop directly, Give him realistic individual goals for him to work on. Shoot the 3 when open and play the best on defense that you can. If Primo is ever going to be a star player, then playing him his rookie year doesn't hurt that path at all. In fact I can't think of a single star player whose rookie year prevented them from being stars.

[Chomag]

Thank God we have g League , I don't know how the NBA ever managed to have good players before...

[rjv]

Progress. In the previous game, he allowed them to limit his shots, essentially take him out of the offense. This is step 2, not letting them take you out of the offense. He’ll learn to shoot better when defended this way.

agreed. and this is where the g league helps regardless of the level of competition. it's a full game so your body is tested physically and you are getting tons of reps working on skills in real time. hopefully, he'll make enough progress on these details this season so that he'll get some additional minutes in NBA games.

[The Truth #6]

The G league is better than not playing at all and just sitting on the bench in street clothes. However, his Alabama role would be quite helpful right now. We need reliable three point shooter from players who aren’t abysmal on defense. If Devin took more of Walker’s minutes and Primo took Forbes’ minutes I think that would help their development and the team. We’d still be a bad team in the lottery but at least investing in the right players for the future.

Edit: Forgot about Tre Jones who also needs minutes. Basically the team needs to get out of their comfort zone and consider trading Thad and Walker to free up the roster. And they probably can’t make that decision regarding Walker if they don’t see Primo in SA to get a better sense of his status.

[Drom John]

Best NBA players who played D/G League by Basketball-Reference WS.

78.4 Rudy Gobert
48.0 Danny Green, Khris Middleton
47.6 Hassan Whiteside
47.0 Antonio Daniels
39.7 Chris Anderson
32.9 Rafer Alston
29.9 Shaun Livington
28.8 Chuck Hayes
26.1 Pascal Siakam

[The Truth #6]

Another knock on the G league approach, at least for this year—they barely play. I counted 6 games in the last month. I suppose they are practicing, but only 6 games weakens the “getting reps” argument for playing in Austin.

6 weeks ago I was on board with the strictly G league approach, but I don’t see much benefit if they barely play.

[slick'81]

Best NBA players who played D/G League by Basketball-Reference WS.

78.4 Rudy Gobert
48.0 Danny Green, Khris Middleton
47.6 Hassan Whiteside
47.0 Antonio Daniels
39.7 Chris Anderson
32.9 Rafer Alston
29.9 Shaun Livington
28.8 Chuck Hayes
26.1 Pascal Siakam

well there goes that argument

[Chinook]

Best NBA players who played D/G League by Basketball-Reference WS.

78.4 Rudy Gobert
48.0 Danny Green, Khris Middleton
47.6 Hassan Whiteside
47.0 Antonio Daniels
39.7 Chris Anderson
32.9 Rafer Alston
29.9 Shaun Livington
28.8 Chuck Hayes
26.1 Pascal Siakam

As always, Drom, thanks for adding context.

I'm actually surprised there aren't more or better players on that list. Certainly, none of those guys have anything to be ashamed about. But there does seem to be a strong trend that the d-league is best used to help train role-players. I don't know for sure, but the fact that so few of those guys were ball-dominant players could mean the d-league helped them more than it would guys like Primo. Danny Green was an off-ball player in college, he was an off-ball playing in the d-league and he remained so in the NBA. He could focus on honing his NBA skills and not on improving things he was never able to do at an NBA level anyway.

[RC_Drunkford]

I tell you this, plenty of superstars have played their fist season in the G-League: Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Jokic, Scottie Pippen, Durant, Ginobili, Parker, Kareem, Steph Curry. It will only help Primo to play there

[slick'81]

Again i have no problem with primo playing in the G early on. Especially if pop has no plan to give him any real minutes. Let him get his feet wet. Now if pop cant find a role for a supposed top 5 pick next draft then that's inexcusable. Especially for a team supposedly tanking ,and looking to develop youth

[lefty20]

Best NBA players who played D/G League by Basketball-Reference WS.

78.4 Rudy Gobert
48.0 Danny Green, Khris Middleton
47.6 Hassan Whiteside
47.0 Antonio Daniels
39.7 Chris Anderson
32.9 Rafer Alston
29.9 Shaun Livington
28.8 Chuck Hayes
26.1 Pascal Siakam

Klay Thompson

[KingKev]

Every few pages it is worth reminding everyone the kid is 18!!!

I see both sides of the argument and i’ve been skeptical of PATFO for the last few years on many issues but I don’t see the big deal with him mostly getting G League minutes when we have decisions to make on Walker/White/Trey etc. If we were to move White and Walker midseason i’d hope Primo gets more burn with the big club.

The tough pill to swallow is Forbes. He looked great in preseason, like he could really contribute 10-15 minutes a game but that hasn’t been the case. Regardless Primo will get his shot in the near future, especially if he shines in the G League which remains to be seen.

[spurraider21]

This. He’s fucking 18.

Everyone thought Devin was a catch and shoot 3 and D, but he turned out to be a 3 level scorer who can create for himself in less than a full season’s worth of games. Let the Spurs unlock all of the cheat codes before you decide, say 2 or 3 seasons?
probably all that g-league time from last year where they gave him a much bigger role than he'd have in the big leagues

[MI21]

probably all that g-league time from last year where they gave him a much bigger role than he'd have in the big leagues

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[duncan2k5]

Every few pages it is worth reminding everyone the kid is 18!!!

I see both sides of the argument and i’ve been skeptical of PATFO for the last few years on many issues but I don’t see the big deal with him mostly getting G League minutes when we have decisions to make on Walker/White/Trey etc. If we were to move White and Walker midseason i’d hope Primo gets more burn with the big club.

The tough pill to swallow is Forbes. He looked great in preseason, like he could really contribute 10-15 minutes a game but that hasn’t been the case. Regardless Primo will get his shot in the near future, especially if he shines in the G League which remains to be seen.

Giannis never played in the g league... He was drafted later than Primo... Pop would have shoved Giannis into the g league and ruined his career...

[ernest787]

so we are expecting Primo to be the next Giannis?

Who knows if it's better for him to be thrown into the fire or to get his feet wet in the G League first. It's really a matter of trusting Pop or not. Personally, I think he's done a great job developing young players going all the way back to the 90s. If he thinks Primo could use some time in the G League then I'll trust it and see how he progresses.

[bluebellmaniac]

Giannis never played in the g league... He was drafted later than Primo... Pop would have shoved Giannis into the g league and ruined his career...


Giannis is 18 and was drafted later than Primo last year.... What?!

[EasyMoney]

Holy shit, this dude is a dumbass.

[KobesAchilles]

Every few pages it is worth reminding everyone the kid is 18!!!

I see both sides of the argument and i’ve been skeptical of PATFO for the last few years on many issues but I don’t see the big deal with him mostly getting G League minutes when we have decisions to make on Walker/White/Trey etc. If we were to move White and Walker midseason i’d hope Primo gets more burn with the big club.

The tough pill to swallow is Forbes. He looked great in preseason, like he could really contribute 10-15 minutes a game but that hasn’t been the case. Regardless Primo will get his shot in the near future, especially if he shines in the G League which remains to be seen.

Three things. First, we have zero decision with Lonnie anymore. The dude is gone and should be out of the rotation. He's shooting 28% on threes. He plays shitty defense and really brings nothing to the court. Ask yourself, what does Lonnie do good? Like what is his actual good skill he uses in a game?

Second, 18 doesn't really mean anything nowadays. there are plenty of 18 year olds that have played in the league. Also there isn't going to be much of a difference between his 18 year old self and his 19 year old self if he gets zero burn in the big leagues. He will still have the same body and all you're doing is denying him experience.

And lastly, Bryn Forbes is in no way shape or form part of our future for the franchise. I'm advocating Primo takes Lonnie's minutes atm but even if you're not on that train with me, he should be getting minutes over Forbes. What reason is Forbes even playing over Primo. there is zero good reason for it. Forbes can be on the team as the 15th man but all the "concerns" perople haave about Primo are still a fact with Forbes

[emanueldavidginobili]

Imagine playing 30 minutes a game in the G league guarding Nigel Thornberry and then being asked to guard Bradley Beal out of no where. It's going to take more than a couple possessions to get into gear. That's why I've been advocating for Josh to just get some consistent rotation minutes with the main squad even if its 12 MPG. Playing with and against NBA players is more beneficial imo.

[exstatic]

Imagine playing 30 minutes a game in the G league guarding Nigel Thornberry and then being asked to guard Bradley Beal out of no where. It's going to take more than a couple possessions to get into gear. That's why I've been advocating for Josh to just get some consistent rotation minutes with the main squad even if its 12 MPG. Playing with and against NBA players is more beneficial imo.

It’s not that he couldn’t guard him. That can be fixed with instruction and reps. He got physically overwhelmed. Beal knocked him on his ass with a simple bump. Throwing him out there over and over for that would only lead to discouragement. He’s physically immature.

[emanueldavidginobili]

It’s not that he couldn’t guard him. That can be fixed with instruction and reps. He got physically overwhelmed. Beal knocked him on his ass with a simple bump. Throwing him out there over and over for that would only lead to discouragement. He’s physically immature.
I never said he couldn’t guard him just saying the level of G league play to NBA play is astronomical and it would take some minutes to get in the right gear.
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Beal clearly steps on his foot. I don’t know why you’re trying to paint this picture that he is all of a sudden not physically ready and he was getting physically abused. He’s no where near a string bean he’s actually much bigger than I initially thought. You act like he’s Chet Holmgren haha. Your perception of him is fogged by the number 18.

[exstatic]

I never said he couldn’t guard him just saying the level of G league play to NBA play is astronomical and it would take some minutes to get in the right gear.
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Beal clearly steps on his foot. I don’t know why you’re trying to paint this picture that he is all of a sudden not physically ready and he was getting physically abused. He’s no where near a string bean he’s actually much bigger than I initially thought. You act like he’s Chet Holmgren haha. Your perception of him is fogged by the number 18.

That wasn’t the play. Must have been in the second half, because it was on the other end of the court.

[MultiTroll]

I never said he couldn’t guard him just saying the level of G league play to NBA play is astronomical and it would take some minutes to get in the right gear.
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Beal clearly steps on his foot. I don’t know why you’re trying to paint this picture that he is all of a sudden not physically ready and he was getting physically abused. He’s no where near a string bean he’s actually much bigger than I initially thought. You act like he’s Chet Holmgren haha. Your perception of him is fogged by the number 18.


That wasn’t the play. Must have been in the second half, because it was on the other end of the court.
exstatic getting regulated again. :lol

Now conducting aerobics classes with another back pedal.

[exstatic]

exstatic getting regulated again. :lol

Now conducting aerobics classes with another back pedal.

No one got regulated. We were just talking about different plays. The one I was thinking of happened pretty much in front of the Spurs bench. Can’t help it if Primo got burned so many times it caused confusion.

[emanueldavidginobili]

No one got regulated. We were just talking about different plays. The one I was thinking of happened pretty much in front of the Spurs bench. Can’t help it if Primo got burned so many times it caused confusion.
Good thing about NBA League Pass is that you can go back and watch the games, just watched all of Primos minutes and what you said happened simply just didn't exist.

[slick'81]

Good thing about NBA League Pass is that you can go back and watch the games, just watched all of Primos minutes and what you said happened simply just didn't exist.

:lmao Busted

[rankingtear]

Good thing about NBA League Pass is that you can go back and watch the games, just watched all of Primos minutes and what you said happened simply just didn't exist.

5:05 3rd quarter

[exstatic]

Good thing about NBA League Pass is that you can go back and watch the games, just watched all of Primos minutes and what you said happened simply just didn't exist.

5:03 or 5:04 3rd Q. Bill even commented on him using his body to move Primo out of the area.

[MultiTroll]

Good thing about NBA League Pass is that you can go back and watch the games, just watched all of Primos minutes and what you said happened simply just didn't exist.


:lmao Busted
:lmao

exstatic heads for the Peletron

[emanueldavidginobili]

5:03 or 5:04 3rd Q. Bill even commented on him using his body to move Primo out of the area.
That was a routine layup putting your shoulder in the defenders chest, he didn't go flying or physically abused like you made it out to be is what i'm saying. You made it seem like it was so bad that you said throwing him out there over and over again would lead to him being discouraged as if he was on the ground all game and getting dunked on or something lol. The kid hit two confident three's and the Spurs got the win i'm sure he went to bed just fine. He got burnt a couple times by none other than Bradley Beal but saying he's physically not ready based off that game is ridiculous.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Best NBA players who played D/G League by Basketball-Reference WS.

78.4 Rudy Gobert
48.0 Danny Green, Khris Middleton
47.6 Hassan Whiteside
47.0 Antonio Daniels
39.7 Chris Anderson
32.9 Rafer Alston
29.9 Shaun Livington
28.8 Chuck Hayes
26.1 Pascal Siakam

I believe Livingston didn’t go to the G League as a rookie, but coming back from that horrific injury that kept him out of the league for several years. He used the G League as part of the comeback. And he was never the same player.

[spurraider21]

those 8 games Rudy played in the GLeague made his career tbh

same with Middleton and his 3 gleague appearances

[Chomag]

Come now, Primo is being sent to G league not to improve but to get over himself. Y'all should know this by now.

[Slippy]

Was impressed how soon he exploded back onto his feet in trying to continue defending Beal on that play . Bryn would of clapped while on the floor happy to watch. .

[MultiTroll]

Where is Primo tonight vs Portland?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Where is Primo tonight vs Portland?
With Austin they have a game in an hour

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo could have had 15 assist tonight if his teammates weren't terrible. He has great vision and feel for the game for some kid that spotted up for the majority of his freshman year. I will say this though he does throws some lazy passes sometimes that result in turnovers but i'm sure he will grow out of it. Also the majority of his turnovers are from his teammates just not being ready for his passes.
It seems like the coaching staff is trying to make sure he lands on two feet at the same time when he shoots jump shots, not sure if that is effecting his three point shooting lately.

[Seventyniner]

Primo could have had 15 assist tonight if his teammates weren't terrible. He has great vision and feel for the game for some kid that spotted up for the majority of his freshman year. I will say this though he does throws some lazy passes sometimes that result in turnovers but i'm sure he will grow out of it. Also the majority of his turnovers are from his teammates just not being ready for his passes.
It seems like the coaching staff is trying to make sure he lands on two feet at the same time when he shoots jump shots, not sure if that is effecting his three point shooting lately.

That's good to hear. His landing has always looked awkward to me. Hopefully fixing it doesn't impact his percentage too much.

[spurraider21]

Where is Primo tonight vs Portland?
Getting over himself

[Rummpd]

Primo stinks relatively and was a horrid choice at the Spurs slot. Next thread.

[emanueldavidginobili]

https://youtu.be/SKdK4kRRS0Q

[Chomag]

How's he doing at improving his getting over himself skills? It would be nice to see him again in Sean Antonio.

[BackHome]

Was impressed how soon he exploded back onto his feet in trying to continue defending Beal on that play . Bryn would of clapped while on the floor happy to watch. .

Yeah I saw that to that was some MATRIX kinda of shit..lol

[slick'81]

Damn that mofo can shoot