Primo assigned to the g league

[itzsoweezee]

lol. I predicted this shit exactly

[rjv]

lol. I predicted this shit exactly

so did everyone else.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

better be averaging 48 minutes per game less bathroom and gatorade breaks

[NASpurs]

So McDermott might be out and Forbes fvcking svcks so the Spurs send Primo to the GLeague during an extended road trip? Makes sense.

[itzsoweezee]

so did everyone else.

People were getting their hopes up recently. Popovich will never change

[jeebus]

This is like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow.

[james evans]

this is why senior citizens in the league should not be coaches. Guys like Larry Brown and Popovich don't really like playing young players. Once we move on from Popovich in 4 or 5 years, there will be an instant change.. That's what I'm looking forward to.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Primo was proving that he is a potential obstacle to the Spurs getting a top 5 draft pick. Good move by Pop.

[james evans]

Primo was proving that he is a potential obstacle to the Spurs getting a top 5 draft pick. Good move by Pop.
another lottery pick for what? Having the best G league team isn't an accomplishment.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

another lottery pick for what? Having the best G league team isn't an accomplishment.

I occasionally forget the blue font....

[EasyMoney]

Rather would see him in the g league then rotting on the bench seeing bryn get chance after chance to fuck things up.

[Leetonidas]

At least he'll get to play

[Chinook]

so did everyone else.

It's not about credit man. It's about being correct.

[exstatic]

This is like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow.

Exactly. Not exactly Nostradamus energy.

[spurraider21]

would have been much better if Forbes was assigned to the Gleague prompting him to ask for his release

[TDomination]

Now thinking back, i'm shocked that Tim Duncan didn't go to the development league when he was a rookie. Was there even one?
Same goes for Parker in 02 and Manu in 03.

any other lottery team would probably have primo starting....seriously.

[KobesAchilles]

G-League sucks. Dude should just be out 6th man

[lmbebo]

This was predicted over the summer. He's 18 years old. Some run in college.

[Spurs Homer]

A total waste of talent -

fuck pop

pop would have sent luka doncic to the g league

[jermaine]

G-League sucks. Dude should just be out 6th man

Him an Lonnie as a 1-2 punch off the bench.

[NASpurs]

Pop would had sent Michael Jordan to the G-League. Too cocky and needs to get over himself.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm fine with this.

G-League practice involves more technique and base scheme elements than an NBA practice. Dude is young and needs work. Holding out hope for a .500 record and a first round exit by playing him doesn't make much sense to me.

[spurraider21]

Primo being given some more regular season run instead of the token minutes going to Forbes > Primo getting extensive run in gleague > Primo being a glorified mascot to get crowd pumped

but a year like this where there aren't any playoff aspirations is the perfect year to throw guys like Primo into the fire. this is unreal

[itzsoweezee]

G-League sucks. Dude should just be out 6th man

Yeah, people are really overrating the g league here. Not surprising. The g league might be useful for people with marginal nba talent. It’s pointless for lottery picks. They need to be playing with the big boys

[tim_duncan_fan]

Before we get angry about this, let's see if he really stands out in G-League.

[exstatic]

I'm fine with this.

G-League practice involves more technique and base scheme elements than an NBA practice. Dude is young and needs work. Holding out hope for a .500 record and a first round exit by playing him doesn't make much sense to me.

Someone who gets it. He could also get his confidence crushed being thrown out there with an empty toolbox. He needs to learn how to operate out of the triple threat position. He needs a rocker step move. He needs to learn how to post up smaller players. He needs to clean up his dribble. He won’t learn these playing in the NBA as an 18 year old, beings abused by older, more experienced players. Players with less talent could school him with better basic knowledge of the game. He has ONE year of D1 ball, as a 4th option. He needs a course in professional basketball, and then he needs to be turned loose as the primary option in Austin, 30 minutes a game, controlling the offense, controlling the rock.

[exstatic]

Before we get angry about this, let's see if he really stands out in G-League.

Doesn’t matter. It would be nice, but Kyle Anderson was a gleague standout. So was Jarron Blossomgame. He needs to be developed.

[emanueldavidginobili]

First game isn't until November 5th

[spurraider21]

Before we get angry about this, let's see if he really stands out in G-League.
too late

bryn forbes has already played 33 minutes this season

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Primo being given some more regular season run instead of the token minutes going to Forbes > Primo getting extensive run in gleague > Primo being a glorified mascot to get crowd pumped

but a year like this where there aren't any playoff aspirations is the perfect year to throw guys like Primo into the fire. this is unreal

I get it you would rather him play 17 mpg as a backup instead of 30 mpg starting in gleague.

Nevermind what role they are trying to develop him in. If you want him to work on ball handling, running pnr ad nauseum and just running the offense that is not going to happen in SA.

i can get all the whinging about game management and rotations but player development?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

another lottery pick for what? Having the best G league team isn't an accomplishment.

Gotta get that Austin market

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop is the most predictable coach in the NBA :pop: "Primo needs to get over himself"

The only way that Primo can get out of there is if he dominates and averages 30+ points

[K...]

Its so funny that people get "should primo start in the g league" With "i want the shiny new object on my TV" mixed up. Its beyond obvious that primo is a major prospect, and its not a big deal he doesn't play on the main team. He's veryyoung, and will be much better if given ball handling minutes. There may be minutes on the big team, but not focus. Lonnie and keldon need attention too. . This is a sorting out year for many other players

[spurraider21]

I get it you would rather him play 17 mpg as a backup instead of 30 mpg starting in gleague.

Nevermind what role they are trying to develop him in. If you want him to work on ball handling, running pnr ad nauseum and just running the offense that is not going to happen in SA.

i can get all the whinging about game management and rotations but player development?
my issue is that he's not even being given the opportunity to earn a role where he can handle the ball and run pnr in a backup role

[Arcadian]

Cool, maybe I'll go catch a game in Cedar Park sometime.

[SpurPadre]

Someone who gets it. He could also get his confidence crushed being thrown out there with an empty toolbox. He needs to learn how to operate out of the triple threat position. He needs a rocker step move. He needs to learn how to post up smaller players. He needs to clean up his dribble. He won’t learn these playing in the NBA as an 18 year old, beings abused by older, more experienced players. Players with less talent could school him with better basic knowledge of the game. He has ONE year of D1 ball, as a 4th option. He needs a course in professional basketball, and then he needs to be turned loose as the primary option in Austin, 30 minutes a game, controlling the offense, controlling the rock.

While all of this is true, the fact of the matter is that Tony Parker didn't get that treatment. He was thrown into the fire. Yes, he had TD and Admiral around him at that time but he was still thrust in a very prominent role despite being 19 and not ever having played a minute of basketball in the US before. Wouldn't you say he learned a thing or two despite not playing in the development league? Again, not knocking your assessment, it's just interesting how these decisions play out is all.

[RC_Drunkford]

Is Landale also assigned to the G-League? Just so he can get over himself as well you know

[SpurPadre]

Is Landale also assigned to the G-League? Just so he can get over himself as well you know

"I mean, he has a Silver Medal, fuck him, he needs to get over himself for that."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

my issue is that he's not even being given the opportunity to earn a role where he can handle the ball and run pnr in a backup role

This is the hubris of fans. We are not in a position to judge how close Primo is to do any such thing.

Popovich is not what he once was but he is in such a position. He hass been working with Primo for over 2 months. He also has a long storied track record of developing talent.

Primo in his own right has very little experience playing college and up, zero experience as a primary option in such a system, and is 18 years old.

But hey Primo should stay with the main club! Why?!? Because he might be able to do something we have no idea if he is capable of!

[spurraider21]

While all of this is true, the fact of the matter is that Tony Parker didn't get that treatment. He was thrown into the fire. Yes, he had TD and Admiral around him at that time but he was still thrust in a very prominent role despite being 19 and not ever having played a minute of basketball in the US before. Wouldn't you say he learned a thing or two despite not playing in the development league? Again, not knocking your assessment, it's just interesting how these decisions play out is all.
george hill was also given chances to play and carve out a role as a rookie

kawhi was immediately in the rotation and played himself into a bigger role, triggering the RJ trade

dejuan blair played plenty as a rookie (more than splitter did as a rookie, lol)

its uncomfortably arbitrary

[spurraider21]

This is the hubris of fans. We are not in a position to judge how close Primo is to do any such thing.

Popovich is not what he once was but he is in such a position. He also has a long storied track record of developing talent.

Primo in his own right has very little experience playing college and up, zero experience as a primary option in such a system, and is 18 years old.

But hey Primo should stay with the main club! Why?!? Because he might be able to do something we have no idea if he is capable of!
there are plenty of times where fans end up being right about things. if we are just going to always defer to the wisdom of those in charge then there's little point to these forums

primo can at least replicate what Forbes is getting minutes for right now, and they can incrementally add more to his plate with time if he's not being overwhelmed. this is the perfect season to do this, since having ups an downs is totally fine, and not jeopardizing playoff expectations

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Hopefully he plays well in the G-League and picks up the plays quickly.

it’s gonna be sad/funny if he plays bad in the G-league because it’s gonna be interesting seeing a lot of folks on this site spin the narrative quickly.

I'm hoping he plays well

[FuzzyLumpkins]

george hill was also given chances to play and carve out a role as a rookie

kawhi was immediately in the rotation and played himself into a bigger role, triggering the RJ trade

dejuan blair played plenty as a rookie (more than splitter did as a rookie, lol)

its uncomfortably arbitrary

Hill and Leonard could stay on the court because of their defense. Hill played 3 years and a redshirt at IUPUI and Leonard is a physical specimen who played 2. Primo does not have that skillset/body coming in.

[spurraider21]

Hill and Leonard could stay on the court because of their defense. Hill played 3 years and a redshirt at IUPUI and Leonard is a physical specimen who played 2. Primo does not have that skillset/body coming in.
forbes stays on the court without defense. primo can easily come in and be as "good" as Forbes on defense :lol

if we had a robust lineup of guards i wouldnt be as upset. but Forbes getting minutes eats into any argument against primo. since Forbes is more physically limited than Primo while being arguably the worst defender in the nba for the last half decade

[HankChinaski]

I would like for him to get minutes outside of garbage time but Primo being the primary focus with the Austin club till Christmas isn't a bad idea at all. There is such a thing as developing bad habits at a new job based on the people you work with.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

there are plenty of times where fans end up being right about things. if we are just going to always defer to the wisdom of those in charge then there's little point to these forums

primo can at least replicate what Forbes is getting minutes for right now, and they can incrementally add more to his plate with time if he's not being overwhelmed. this is the perfect season to do this, since having ups an downs is totally fine, and not jeopardizing playoff expectations

What does that have to do with anything? Your opinion is uninformed.

Like I said I get the conversation about roster transactions, scheme, rotations, and the like.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

forbes stays on the court without defense. primo can easily come in and be as "good" as Forbes on defense :lol

Forbes is being developed now?

You trying to win now with this roster is what is funny.

[spurraider21]

What does that have to do with anything? Your opinion is uninformed.

Like I said I get the conversation about roster transactions, scheme, rotations, and the like.
our best example of player development in recent years is probably DeJounte, given how much his game has evolved. and he has played a total of 15 games in the gleague. he has gone through extensive growing pains over the years and has become a better player.

this is the perfect season to throw guys into the fire.

[spurraider21]

Forbes is being developed now?

You trying to win now with this roster is what is funny.
2 strawmen in one post. great work.

no, forbes is not being developed now. but Primo could be given those same minutes and use that time to develop.

and no, we're not trying to win now. which is why this season creates a perfect opportunity for guys to be given minutes and get through some growing pains. Tre Jones as well.

[cd98]

Not a bad move. Primo should be a freshman in college. He doesn't have a man's body like Lebron. And he isn't that naturally talented. He'll be in the G-League kind of like Jalen Green was when he opted to skip college and play in the G-League and became the number 2 pick overall. Let him get minutes and when he gets more familiar with the offense, then he can join the Spurs later in the season when it is clear they are out of the playoff hunt and he can get NBA minutes. He is not going to contribute to winning and it will ease his rookie season to get a G-League season under his belt to prepare him for the physicality of the NBA. I won't be surprised, if at his age, he doesn't dominate the G-League.

[BackHome]

It’s not like him playing for the big team is going to make us come close to being in the playoffs. Let’s see how he does in G League he will probably be brought up for a lot of games with the big team as long as they have a plan for him I am fine with it.

Either way this team desperately needs talent and as the last few years have shown we suck at getting big free agents. So only way we getting back to the dance is landing some top 10 first round picks and hoping they hit on the guys they pick

[RC_Drunkford]

the takes in this thread are ridiculous :lol Like how far do y'all stick y'all noses up Pop's ass? This guy Primo had the best defensive posession against Middleton in the entire game against the Bucks and has multiple moves in his scoring arsenal. Why is he supposed to go to the G-League to learn Pop's overrated plays that he ain't calling this season anyway because as he says: He just lets the team go and lets them figure it out?

Defense comes first and the best way to learn that is to play in NBA games period. This kid will dominate in the G-League with ease

[FuzzyLumpkins]

2 strawmen in one post. great work.

no, forbes is not being developed now. but Primo could be given those same minutes and use that time to develop.

and no, we're not trying to win now. which is why this season creates a perfect opportunity for guys to be given minutes and get through some growing pains. Tre Jones as well.


That you think they are strawmen indicate you should not write your own arguments.

Primo is being developed; Forbes is not. That is why things are the way they are. I thought the point was obvious but it eluded you.

Your central argument that you bleet ad nauseum is that Primo could replace Forbes' minutes. That is trying to win because you are hoping that Primo can do better. Your hoping that Primo can come in and help us now.

My argument is that you don't know shit about player development and that Popovich has a decades long history of developing young players doing these very same things.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

the takes in this thread are ridiculous :lol Like how far do y'all stick y'all noses up Pop's ass? This guy Primo had the best defensive posession against Middleton in the entire game against the Bucks and has multiple moves in his scoring arsenal. Why is he supposed to go to the G-League to learn Pop's overrated plays that he ain't calling this season anyway because as he says: He just lets the team go and lets them figure it out?

Defense comes first and the best way to learn that is to play in NBA games period. This kid will dominate in the G-League with ease

There is only one real argument in all that garbage and its an anecdote.

Nice job.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Hopefully he plays well in the G-League and picks up the plays quickly.

it’s gonna be sad/funny if he plays bad in the G-league because it’s gonna be interesting seeing a lot of folks on this site spin the narrative quickly.

I'm hoping he plays well

[spurraider21]

That you think they are strawmen indicate you should not write your own arguments.

Primo is being developed; Forbes is not. That is why things are the way they are. I thought the point was obvious but it eluded you.
this is not a point, though. my concern isn't whether forbes is "getting developed." its that he is getting minutes which, if given to primo, could go toward his development. its hysterical that you think this is a point.

its as though if the spurs gave Terry Porter 100% of the point guard minutes in 2001 instead of giving a bunch to Tony Parker, and i said "hey, Parker could use some of those minutes for development" and your retort was "lol you think Porter is being developed???"

its nonsensical


Your central argument that you bleet ad nauseum is that Primo could replace Forbes' minutes. That is trying to win because you are hoping that Primo can do better. Your hoping that Primo can come in and help us now.
thats probably an added benefit. and forbes' minutes are the easy ones to pick at because they're

a) being used by an awful player (so there's not exactly a high bar for competence) and;
b) NOT being used to develop players when thats what the goal of this season should be


My argument is that you don't know shit about player development and that Popovich has a decades long history of developing young players doing these very same things.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0HUg6Ypas42ubkXu/200.gif

you shouldnt be able to criticize anything pop does including game management and rotations because he has a track record of winning nba championships and you dont. neener neener

name anything you think we should be allowed to criticize pop for and the above-retort would be equally (stupidly) applicable

[HankChinaski]

the takes in this thread are ridiculous :lol Like how far do y'all stick y'all noses up Pop's ass? This guy Primo had the best defensive posession against Middleton in the entire game against the Bucks and has multiple moves in his scoring arsenal. Why is he supposed to go to the G-League to learn Pop's overrated plays that he ain't calling this season anyway because as he says: He just lets the team go and lets them figure it out?

Defense comes first and the best way to learn that is to play in NBA games period. This kid will dominate in the G-League with ease

I would like for him to get minutes outside of garbage time and seeing what he can do.

Instead of being negative about the decision I was thinking of the positives that Primo could benefit from with getting heavy minutes in the G league.

[objective]

Context on Pop playing Parker or Kawhi as rookies

Parker only got a chance because Pop hated Antonio Daniels and never wanted him. Daniels was a play to keep Duncan happy on his first deal with one of his few friends in the league. There were no other viable point guard options with Avery Johnson gone. Pop had it in for AD so bad he traded him away for an about to retire third stringer Kerr.

Kawhi got time because Pop hated Jefferson for making Pop take time away from his summer off to do remedial drills. People forget that Jefferson was benched for like a 10 game stretch his first year. Pop was very disappointed in him.

And I don't get people acting like George Hill was a rookie success story. Don't you remember, "These playoffs aren't for George"? Out of the rotation to start the playoffs, and when he finally played he made Pop look so bad that Pop took to overcompensating whenever he talked about him, how he was soooo totally his favorite player and he loved him so much.

If Primo plays this year it will be because of injury or Pop not having any favorites to stand in the way. Good news is that Pop doesn't like Lonnie. But he still loves Forbes. And despite Forbes' low minutes and bad shooting so far, he's going to have months of opportunities to get some games with positive shooting and decent minutes before Primo is back for the Rodeo Road Trip. And if McDermott misses time there's more chances for Forbes to look like what passes as 'good'. As long as he's healthy, why would Pop ever turn to Primo?

[spurraider21]

Context on Pop playing Parker or Kawhi as rookies

Parker only got a chance because Pop hated Antonio Daniels and never wanted him. Daniels was a play to keep Duncan happy on his first deal with one of his few friends in the league. There were no other viable point guard options with Avery Johnson gone. Pop had it in for AD so bad he traded him away for an about to retire third stringer Kerr.

Kawhi got time because Pop hated Jefferson for making Pop take time away from his summer off to do remedial drills. People forget that Jefferson was benched for like a 10 game stretch his first year. Pop was very disappointed in him.

And I don't get people acting like George Hill was a rookie success story. Don't you remember, "These playoffs aren't for George"? Out of the rotation to start the playoffs, and when he finally played he made Pop look so bad that Pop took to overcompensating whenever he talked about him, how he was soooo totally his favorite player and he loved him so much.

If Primo plays this year it will be because of injury or Pop not having any favorites to stand in the way. Good news is that Pop doesn't like Lonnie. But he still loves Forbes. And despite Forbes' low minutes and bad shooting so far, he's going to have months of opportunities to get some games with positive shooting and decent minutes before Primo is back for the Rodeo Road Trip. And if McDermott misses time there's more chances for Forbes to look like what passes as 'good'. As long as he's healthy, why would Pop ever turn to Primo?
yeah. the problem is pop doesnt hate forbes.

you took the roundabout way to get there, but you got there

[tim_duncan_fan]

Doesn’t matter. It would be nice, but Kyle Anderson was a gleague standout. So was Jarron Blossomgame. He needs to be developed.
Good point.


too late

bryn forbes has already played 33 minutes this season

Lol I realized I was full of shit when I re-remembered for the fifth time that he probably can't be any worse than Bryn.

[Mugen]

Not a bad move. Primo should be a freshman in college. He doesn't have a man's body like Lebron. And he isn't that naturally talented. He'll be in the G-League kind of like Jalen Green was when he opted to skip college and play in the G-League and became the number 2 pick overall. Let him get minutes and when he gets more familiar with the offense, then he can join the Spurs later in the season when it is clear they are out of the playoff hunt and he can get NBA minutes. He is not going to contribute to winning and it will ease his rookie season to get a G-League season under his belt to prepare him for the physicality of the NBA. I won't be surprised, if at his age, he doesn't dominate the G-League.

:lol If the Spurs drafted Jalen Green, Pop would have sent his ass right back to the G League this year. It's a one-size fits all approach for this coaching staff and FO.

Lazy and unimaginative, par for the course for how they've run shop since Kawhi shook them to their core.

[exstatic]

First game isn't until November 5th

Training camp, where you get to know your teammates.

[lefty20]

So the first priority has to be improving them lose handles, right? So I'm guessing that he'll play as full time PG down there, much like he did in SL.

This is the only reason why it makes sense to send him down to G League. I mean it's obvious to a genital wart that Primo is an upgrade on Forbes in that current role. But the problem is that he wouldn't get the reps he needs as a main ball handler on the Spurs. He'd essentially play a similar role to the one played in Bama.

[exstatic]

While all of this is true, the fact of the matter is that Tony Parker didn't get that treatment. He was thrown into the fire. Yes, he had TD and Admiral around him at that time but he was still thrust in a very prominent role despite being 19 and not ever having played a minute of basketball in the US before. Wouldn't you say he learned a thing or two despite not playing in the development league? Again, not knocking your assessment, it's just interesting how these decisions play out is all.

Tony Parker played in the French League, one of the two best leagues in Europe, against grown men from the time he was 16. He was a year older, and much more prepared than Josh. It still took him until his 5th year to be an All Star, even running with Tim and Manu. Development takes time. Primo will get rotation minutes next year.

[spurraider21]

Development takes time. Samanic will get rotation minutes next year.
:tu

[exstatic]

george hill was also given chances to play and carve out a role as a rookie

kawhi was immediately in the rotation and played himself into a bigger role, triggering the RJ trade

dejuan blair played plenty as a rookie (more than splitter did as a rookie, lol)

its uncomfortably arbitrary

George Hill was 22, with FOUR years of D1 ball under his belt. Kawhi was a transformational defender, but basically sat in the corner waiting for kick out passes his first two seasons. He was a piece needed for a championship contender. We’re not that any more.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Corey Joseph. He was fucking HORRIBLE out of the draft, couldn’t even get spot minutes. He ASKED to go to Austin, and came back an NBA player at the end of their season.

[exstatic]

forbes stays on the court without defense. primo can easily come in and be as "good" as Forbes on defense :lol

if we had a robust lineup of guards i wouldnt be as upset. but Forbes getting minutes eats into any argument against primo. since Forbes is more physically limited than Primo while being arguably the worst defender in the nba for the last half decade

Forbes has barely played this year. Those minutes wouldn’t be enough to teach Josh.

[LeBowen]

While Forbes getting minutes ahead of Primo is awful, he's the youngest player in the league and G-league will surely help him a lot.

Better to be the first option in G-league than camp in the corner while getting miserable minutes.

If he starts dominating in G-league I don't think even Pop will be able to ignore him.

[JeffDuncan]

... This guy Primo had the best defensive posession against Middleton in the entire game against the Bucks ...


Um, Primo played 48 seconds in that game.

People certainly do lose their minds easily around here. Call it Pop Derangement Syndrome. PDS.

Just because Pop should have retired 5 years ago, that doesn't make Primo All-NBA. Yet.

It's great - and a big relief - that Primo appears to be an excellent prospect. But he has a lot to learn.

People complain about Forbes, and rightly so, but to play significant minutes with the big club, Primo needs to be ready to replace Murray, or White, or Jones, or Walker, or Vassell, or maybe even McDermott or Keldon. He can't do that yet.

Yes, Primo should get some time on the floor with the big club, more than he's gotten. But he also needs extended playing time in the G league to get up to speed.

[JeffDuncan]

There is also the point that in Austin, Primo will be playing for a different head coach, and different assistant coaches. The wider exposure, to different coaches, will do him good.

[itzsoweezee]

Primo is a little doll and must be protected from the big bad NBA players Boo hoo

[duncan2k5]

That you think they are strawmen indicate you should not write your own arguments.

Primo is being developed; Forbes is not. That is why things are the way they are. I thought the point was obvious but it eluded you.

Your central argument that you bleet ad nauseum is that Primo could replace Forbes' minutes. That is trying to win because you are hoping that Primo can do better. Your hoping that Primo can come in and help us now.

My argument is that you don't know shit about player development and that Popovich has a decades long history of developing young players doing these very same things.
other, better teams develop their first round picks in the actual games...

[SpurSpike]

Its OK to send him to the g league for a month or so.

At this point I just hope he catches on quickly in the G league so that he proves himself worthy of minutes on the big squad during the second half of the season.

[K...]

Primo is a little doll and must be protected from the big bad NBA players Boo hoo

No you are describing spurtsalk posters

[rastaspur]

Love primo but hes not ready for ball handing duties against nba players.

Nothing wrong with some seasoning and experience in the d league. Patience...... the vast majority of posters on here want to tank.... so why rush primo?

If he learns quickly and becomes a serviceable ball handle or just tears up the league then bring him up for the second half of the season.

I'm on board with the strategy.

[rastaspur]

So the first priority has to be improving them lose handles, right? So I'm guessing that he'll play as full time PG down there, much like he did in SL.

This is the only reason why it makes sense to send him down to G League. I mean it's obvious to a genital wart that Primo is an upgrade on Forbes in that current role. But the problem is that he wouldn't get the reps he needs as a main ball handler on the Spurs. He'd essentially play a similar role to the one played in Bama.

To answer your question - absolutely.

Needs to work on handles and work hard 9n attacking and finishing on fast breaks and full court.

He is super comfortable and highly effective 8n a half court setting. On the break he needs work.

[Chinook]

Why do people think you need a bunch of minutes to develop? I keep seeing people talk about how Primo needs to go to the d-league and play 30 minutes to learn all these one-on-one moves, and I can't help thinking "Why is this the logic with every fucking pic the team makes?" Primo doesn't actually need to know how to be a PG right now, given that the Spurs have three pretty good ones and multiple other ball-dominant players. He can learn that next year or later. This isn't the only time to develop him. By playing a smaller role with the Spurs as a shooter and energy player, he can learn to do things he won't have as much opportunity to learn in practices or later on once he gets a bigger role with the real team. He can be a shooter and then fill out over the next couple of years and learn to drive and finish with contact or any of that stuff.

It's powerful sniffery to think that the Spurs way of developing players is necessarily the best way just because they keep doing it. They aren't the only team that drafts guys, and plenty of clubs develop players with other methods. All this is suggesting is that the Spurs don't have nuanced developmental plans. They seem to assume that everyone they draft has the same strengths and weaknesses, and that the same solutions work for all of them. It's dumb. You can give the guy regular-season, big-club run AND THEN assign him to the d-league once you get a sense of what he can do on the court, if you need to. Don't just assume you have to do it. Back when the Spurs have a contending rotation year and and year out, they didn't have the minutes to give to developmental guys. You really could lock a dude on the Toros for most of the year, confident that you weren't going to need him. Pop not seeming to realize that is a flaw.

Also, Pop controls the rotation, not "the powers that be" or whatever. If he wanted to carve out a 12-18 MPG role for Primo, he could it by marking it on his rotation chart. He doesn't have to play Murray, White and Johnson a lot of minutes. The team isn't contender, so maximizing their minutes isn't critical. It's just a bullshit excuse to think Primo can't develop in SA and has to go to Austin for his own good.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo is 37th! in total minutes played by a rookie this year lmao. You'd think this team would be fighting for a Championship using the logic of sending their Lottery pick to the G League while playing on a losing rebuilding team.

[objective]

G league is probably best for athletes who need basic skill development like Jonathan Simmons or Ian.

Guys who have skills might get in better shape, but how much more skill they'll get compared to playing reserve minutes in the NBA ... Ehhhh.

Derrick White was clearly no worse then the fourth best guard on the team if not third while he was a rookie in the g-league. And he isn't much better skill wise, still the same mediocre shooter. His year was more or less wasted, and don't always believe players when they say they were better off to be in the g-league. They're not stupid, they know they can't come out and say they wasted their time there and should have been playing all along and start controversy.

Kyle Anderson didn't gain that much.

Dejounte made a lot more progress while playing in the NBA and in the summers since than what was apparent in the g-league.

Keldon did the same hustle in the g-league he did as a rookie in real games.

Did Samanic get better skill wise? He improved his body, but was still a bad shooter and turnover machine with questionable attitude.

And Primo is not an athlete, or at least looked like a subpar one to me. He has NBA skills already, this team is a lottery team, might as well develop him against NBA talent.

If they had drafted an athlete needing skill development like Garuba or Kai Jones or Greg then I could see the g-league making sense.

[GAustex]

Spurs just need dudes who can play. They gotta run so hard they get tired. Forbes in his position should eat some minutes. Primo is next man up. The rest of the team needs him to eat minutes since Forbes cannot cause Forbes sucks.

[GAustex]

Or trey needs some run

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Primo was proving that he is a potential obstacle to the Spurs getting a top 5 draft pick. Good move by Pop.

[Spurs Homer]

Has pop ever had a “rookie of the year” on his team?

Primo’s agent should work for his client and bug the shit out of the front office tbh

[spurraider21]

Why do people think you need a bunch of minutes to develop? I keep seeing people talk about how Primo needs to go to the d-league and play 30 minutes to learn all these one-on-one moves, and I can't help thinking "Why is this the logic with every fucking pic the team makes?" Primo doesn't actually need to know how to be a PG right now, given that the Spurs have three pretty good ones and multiple other ball-dominant players. He can learn that next year or later. This isn't the only time to develop him. By playing a smaller role with the Spurs as a shooter and energy player, he can learn to do things he won't have as much opportunity to learn in practices or later on once he gets a bigger role with the real team. He can be a shooter and then fill out over the next couple of years and learn to drive and finish with contact or any of that stuff.

It's powerful sniffery to think that the Spurs way of developing players is necessarily the best way just because they keep doing it. They aren't the only team that drafts guys, and plenty of clubs develop players with other methods. All this is suggesting is that the Spurs don't have nuanced developmental plans. They seem to assume that everyone they draft has the same strengths and weaknesses, and that the same solutions work for all of them. It's dumb. You can give the guy regular-season, big-club run AND THEN assign him to the d-league once you get a sense of what he can do on the court, if you need to. Don't just assume you have to do it. Back when the Spurs have a contending rotation year and and year out, they didn't have the minutes to give to developmental guys. You really could lock a dude on the Toros for most of the year, confident that you weren't going to need him. Pop not seeming to realize that is a flaw.

Also, Pop controls the rotation, not "the powers that be" or whatever. If he wanted to carve out a 12-18 MPG role for Primo, he could it by marking it on his rotation chart. He doesn't have to play Murray, White and Johnson a lot of minutes. The team isn't contender, so maximizing their minutes isn't critical. It's just a bullshit excuse to think Primo can't develop in SA and has to go to Austin for his own good.
but pop knows better than you so stop questioning him

[K...]

Why do people think you need a bunch of minutes to develop? I keep seeing people talk about how Primo needs to go to the d-league and play 30 minutes to learn all these one-on-one moves, and I can't help thinking "Why is this the logic with every fucking pic the team makes?" Primo doesn't actually need to know how to be a PG right now, given that the Spurs have three pretty good ones and multiple other ball-dominant players. He can learn that next year or later. This isn't the only time to develop him. By playing a smaller role with the Spurs as a shooter and energy player, he can learn to do things he won't have as much opportunity to learn in practices or later on once he gets a bigger role with the real team. He can be a shooter and then fill out over the next couple of years and learn to drive and finish with contact or any of that stuff.

It's powerful sniffery to think that the Spurs way of developing players is necessarily the best way just because they keep doing it. They aren't the only team that drafts guys, and plenty of clubs develop players with other methods. All this is suggesting is that the Spurs don't have nuanced developmental plans. They seem to assume that everyone they draft has the same strengths and weaknesses, and that the same solutions work for all of them. It's dumb. You can give the guy regular-season, big-club run AND THEN assign him to the d-league once you get a sense of what he can do on the court, if you need to. Don't just assume you have to do it. Back when the Spurs have a contending rotation year and and year out, they didn't have the minutes to give to developmental guys. You really could lock a dude on the Toros for most of the year, confident that you weren't going to need him. Pop not seeming to realize that is a flaw.

Also, Pop controls the rotation, not "the powers that be" or whatever. If he wanted to carve out a 12-18 MPG role for Primo, he could it by marking it on his rotation chart. He doesn't have to play Murray, White and Johnson a lot of minutes. The team isn't contender, so maximizing their minutes isn't critical. It's just a bullshit excuse to think Primo can't develop in SA and has to go to Austin for his own good.

This is pretty obtuse. The sniffer position is that whatever happens to primo is fine. The bitch and moan position is that forbes is the holocaust and primo is jesus. Just let the spurs have the benefit of the doubt with their plans.

[Chomag]

So disrespectful for a lottery pick...


How many top players in the NBA had to go to G league in NBA history?

I guess its a crazy thought that most of these good players got to play their rookie season on the team that drafted them

[John B]

It’s perfect to get playing time. Plus less Covid protocol should see him in Spurs jerseys in some home games. I agree.

[Chomag]

And people are getting excited at us tanking for another lottery pick when we all well know that Pop will bury him in the G league. I guess we will see more Primo in about 3 years if lucky

[Chomag]

Pop would had sent Michael Jordan to the G-League. Too cocky and needs to get over himself.No doubt about that at all

[spurraider21]

This is pretty obtuse. The sniffer position is that whatever happens to primo is fine. The bitch and moan position is that forbes is the holocaust and primo is jesus. Just let the spurs have the benefit of the doubt with their plans.
forbes is a terrible player, but this wasnt going to be a winning team anyway, so i dont think anyone is concerned about him costing us in the standings, or that primo getting minutes would make the team a lot better. its just a wasted opportunity to get him experience against big leaguers

[RC_Drunkford]

people here tryin to spin Flopovich's "get over yourself" approach all kind of ways to make him seem like a genius :lmao :lmao :lmao

this is truly hilarious

[B1gduff]

Per long time goal, this the perfect situation for primo. he can go to the G-league, and actually develop parts of his games that needs development (Dribbling), plus be the main focus (pg?) on opffense in the g leagues.
This isn't getting minutes at the nba level, it's about development! Primo is alot advanced compared to other guys, but there is still alot for him to learn and develop.

[tbdog]

I do think a trade is highly likely this deadline and Primo will gdt plenty of playing time because spurs we'll be way out of the playoff hunt.

[Chinook]

This is pretty obtuse. The sniffer position is that whatever happens to primo is fine. The bitch and moan position is that forbes is the holocaust and primo is jesus. Just let the spurs have the benefit of the doubt with their plans.

I don't really care about Forbes. I think he creates a higher floor for the offense and am not actually worried about his shooting. So I'm not too hurt that he's playing, even though I would like Pop to clear up the rotation rather than playing 12 guys.

Anyways, the sniffer position isn't "Let the Spurs do things their way", because the Spurs aren't asking us what to do. They're going to do things their way no matter how we feel. What happens with Primo happens, but we can certainly have opinions on what should happen and can discuss the effects of whatever happens happening. The sniffer position is "Whatever happens with Primo is the right thing because the Spurs develop players the right way." That's obviously a position that can be argued against much more directly, and I've already done that. There's nothing obtuse about pointing out potential flaws in the Spurs thinking and in the attempts to justify that thinking by creating false dilemmas to leave the only logical option as the Spurs' decided path. I'm not saying you can't trust the Spurs or that you shouldn't, but I am saying the reasons people are giving for why they do so are sus AF and pretty easily debunkable.

I think there's a lot of reasons to question the Spurs' approach and have laid out those reasons. That doesn't have to convince anyone to lose faith or whatever, but I do think people should think more critically about the Spurs if they want to evaluate the team, because there's a ton to critique, even if they're still good.

[Jordan Jackson]

Sending him to Austin is pointless. The Spurs are a g-league team.

This team needs shooting and he can shoot. Unless they’re worried about winning too many games.

[slick'81]

Meh. Hopefully primo blows up and forces his way back on the active roster. Better some playing time then none I guess

[playbonner15]

Primo was proving that he is a potential obstacle to the Spurs getting a top 5 draft pick. Good move by Pop.

LMAO team is trying to tank competitvely tho

[HankChinaski]

Meh. Hopefully primo blows up and forces his way back on the active roster. Better some playing time then none I guess

This is pretty much what I am hoping for. All he has to do is perform north on I-35 and he will find himself back on the main squad.

[Texas_Ranger]

In 2-3 years he'll maybe be good enough to get us a 2nd round pick.


Whoever is responsible for scouting and drafting players should have been fired long ago. This is like a big joke. Its like they dont want the rookies to be good. Such a retarded franchise.

[BackHome]

Love primo but hes not ready for ball handing duties against nba players.

Nothing wrong with some seasoning and experience in the d league. Patience...... the vast majority of posters on here want to tank.... so why rush primo?

If he learns quickly and becomes a serviceable ball handle or just tears up the league then bring him up for the second half of the season.

I'm on board with the strategy.

Yep totally agree with ya one thing I always want from our high draft picks is to play as much PG duties as possible- So many of today’s kids have terrible handles so nip that quick as it will help them in the long run and I still say that if Vassell has spent time in G League he would be a much better product but alas Covid fucked that up.

Another concern I don’t know if it’s valid but him being so young and his growth plates not fused doesn’t that raise his risk of injury if he plays a lot of games and minutes.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It'll be interesting to compare how he does in the G-league compared to Jalen Green's season last year and Hardy this year.

I'm not sure he dominates like some posters suggest. In fact he might struggle at first against older players playing really hard trying to get a call up and having to play a different role compared to his college season.

[MI21]

I have no problem with him spending a little time in the G League every now and then, just to diversify his role and minute load but it's fucking ridiculous to not give the guy a chance to show that he belongs on the court with the Spurs though.

Someone like Josh Giddey for OKC has been shockingly ok considering expectations, he's only a little older than Primo and he has been surprising with some parts of his game and is providing confirmation that his expected strong skills will translate. That's the point of giving these picks some minutes. I know the Spurs aren't in full tank like OKC, but honestly, what's the harm?

Another thing is - these picks are meant to give the team some cheapish production on their rookie deals all things going well, shoving them in the G League removes that benefit too.

[rastaspur]

people here tryin to spin Flopovich's "get over yourself" approach all kind of ways to make him seem like a genius :lmao :lmao :lmao

this is truly hilarious

The team clearly wants to mold him into a primary scorer and initiator. He needs tons of reps and in game experience to speed up the process of development.

It's pretty simple really. Your hatred is getting in the way of seeing it. You need a coke and a smile, bro.

[rastaspur]

I have no problem with him spending a little time in the G League every now and then, just to diversify his role and minute load but it's fucking ridiculous to not give the guy a chance to show that he belongs on the court with the Spurs though.

Someone like Josh Giddey for OKC has been shockingly ok considering expectations, he's only a little older than Primo and he has been surprising with some parts of his game and is providing confirmation that his expected strong skills will translate. That's the point of giving these picks some minutes. I know the Spurs aren't in full tank like OKC, but honestly, what's the harm?

Another thing is - these picks are meant to give the team some cheapish production on their rookie deals all things going well, shoving them in the G League removes that benefit too.

I'm not advocating for a full year in the d league.

The choice is this - he rots on the bench at 5his juncture which pop has shown or gets reps in. The latter is the best choice.

At this point theres no option c because pop isn't playing him.

If he was getting steady minutes then that's more beneficial imo because your learning on the fly against the best competition.

But let's just all whine like little bitches cause 5hats going to change the end result.

[rastaspur]

95% if posters on here are bipolar tbh. Two months ago everyone wanted to jump off a cliff when he was drafted. Now everyone is acting like the sky is falling because hes not getting minutes.

Comical 180 tbh

[Proxy]

Kawhi and Georgie played nearly immediately. Every G League ST armchair coach player has died out after leaving SA. It's hilarious that people still think they know more than a professional FO about these players

[K...]

Kawhi and Georgie played nearly immediately. Every G League ST armchair coach player has died out after leaving SA. It's hilarious that people still think they know more than a professional FO about these players

You remember when we had a highly competent hall of fame stacked roster? You remember there were two hof ball handling guards? Things are not the same on the main team.

[K...]

Its worth remembering, at the time of the draft primo was considered a massive reach. Now he looks like a top 15 draft talent. Top 15 draft talent bust out at high rates. So the primo is jesus stuff is a massive overating.

[Dex]

Only SpursTalk would pull out the pitchforks over what everyone expected would be the most likely scenario. It's the same discussion with every rookie.

Yes, Primo is very talented. Yes, watching him play is a lot of fun...and I would definitely prefer it to watching Forbes stink up the place.

That said, even if Primo made the rotation he would probably only be getting 10-15 minutes off the bench, tops. And he would by no means be the focal point.

Going to Austin gives him the chance to get his feet wet against lesser competition, get 30+ minutes a game, be a primary weapon and learn how to run a team as a point guard.

That's not going to happen with the big squad, even with our youth movement this year. Murray and White are definitely the focal points right now, with Walker and Vassell to a lesser extent.

For all of his chutzpah, he is still only an 18 year old kid who played only one year of college. A little grooming could go a long way here. And who knows, he could be back come January or February, especially if we have some injuries.

[cd98]

It would be interesting to get a take from the players that are actually sent to Austin to see if they found it beneficial to spend part of their season in the G-League. The only player I heard complaining about it was Luke in year 2. But it turned out that he may have needed it more than the other players.

But why the whining? He's going down there, but for how long? A week? A month? He won't be there the whole NBA season because Austin ends before the NBA season ends. So he will play NBA games this year. And to be honest, if he is the second coming of MJ like some people seem to act like he is, then I don't want him mucking up our need to load up on lottery picks that we can either use to draft the next star or trade for a star. Even if Primo approximated an NBA superstar, our roster is still not enough. And we all know that Primo is no where near an NBA all star. He may not even be an NBA starter. It's a big difference between summer league, preseason, and the real season. And flashes are not enough to give someone starter minutes.

[TDomination]

​
Only SpursTalk would pull out the pitchforks over what everyone expected would be the most likely scenario. It's the same discussion with every rookie.

Yes, Primo is very talented. Yes, watching him play is a lot of fun...and I would definitely prefer it to watching Forbes stink up the place.

That said, even if Primo made the rotation he would probably only be getting 10-15 minutes off the bench, tops. And he would by no means be the focal point.

Going to Austin gives him the chance to get his feet wet against lesser competition, get 30+ minutes a game, be a primary weapon and learn how to run a team as a point guard.

That's not going to happen with the big squad, even with our youth movement this year. Murray and White are definitely the focal points right now, with Walker and Vassell to a lesser extent.

For all of his chutzpah, he is still only an 18 year old kid who played only one year of college. A little grooming could go a long way here. And who knows, he could be back come January or February, especially if we have some injuries.

probably the best argument i've heard so far.

i doubt he would get 30 minutes in the NBA anywhere he went. 15 minutes would be more likely. so would it be better to get 15 minutes in NBA or 30+ in Gleague?

[CGD]

lol. I predicted this shit exactly

Going out there on a limb...

That's like predicting that to start the 2021 NFL season the Cowboys would be the most popular pro-football team in Texas.

[Texas_Ranger]

​

probably the best argument i've heard so far.

i doubt he would get 30 minutes in the NBA anywhere he went. 15 minutes would be more likely. so would it be better to get 15 minutes in NBA or 30+ in Gleague?

of course he would not be getting playing time anywhere, cause there is no team in the league so retarded to draft a 2nd round pick as the 12th pick.

[slick'81]

of course he would not be getting playing time anywhere, cause there is no team in the league so retarded to draft a 2nd round pick as the 12th pick.

Why cant he play more minutes? Spurs aren't winning or competing for anything.Everyone acting like this team isn't ending up at the bottom of the conference

[ChumpDumper]

I can understand wanting to play Primo for the mothership now. As always the main pros for playing in Cedar Park are more practice, less travel and regular time in games doing more than one would in San Antonio. Doesn't seem unreasonable for a guy who played a total of 675 minutes of college ball. If he absolutely dominates the league there will be little reason to keep him there.

[spurraider21]

95% if posters on here are bipolar tbh. Two months ago everyone wanted to jump off a cliff when he was drafted. Now everyone is acting like the sky is falling because hes not getting minutes.

Comical 180 tbh
tbh i could be ass-mad about who they draft in the first round, but i'd still want to at least try to develop whoever it is

[MultiTroll]

Can Forbes be sent to the GLeague?

[The Truth #6]

It’s not simply his development. We need to let Walker get minutes and figure out if we want to sign him to another contract. There’s already a shortage of available minutes to play a lot of our players. Jock hasn’t even played at all, for example.

[itzsoweezee]

Going out there on a limb...

That's like predicting that to start the 2021 NFL season the Cowboys would be the most popular pro-football team in Texas.

I wasn’t really serious. It’s a jay-z quote

[NASpurs]

It’s not simply his development. We need to let Walker get minutes and figure out if we want to sign him to another contract. There’s already a shortage of available minutes to play a lot of our players. Jock hasn’t even played at all, for example.

I read McDermott is out for 3 games or so. I swear if Fvck! starts in his place...

[Texas_Ranger]

Why cant he play more minutes? Spurs aren't winning or competing for anything.Everyone acting like this team isn't ending up at the bottom of the conference

if it was me id play all the young guys at least 20 min a game. There is no way this team is making the playoffs, so ending up 11th or 12th in the west is really stupid. There's also a problem of our FO being dumb, as even if we would end up with a top 5 pick, these morons would probably select some late 1rst rounder. Thats why the Spurs should get rid of pretty much all the staff, as its clear that they are incompetent.

[couchman]

Primo has tremendous potential but he also has a lot of things to work on. He wasn’t given the chance in college to do the things we want him to do for us. The G-League is the perfect place for him to hone those skills.

[RC_Drunkford]

if it was me id play all the young guys at least 20 min a game. There is no way this team is making the playoffs, so ending up 11th or 12th in the west is really stupid. There's also a problem of our FO being dumb, as even if we would end up with a top 5 pick, these morons would probably select some late 1rst rounder. Thats why the Spurs should get rid of pretty much all the staff, as its clear that they are incompetent.

:pop: "It's not that stupid if I get my record"

[exstatic]

I read McDermott is out for 3 games or so. I swear if Fvck! starts in his place...

Devin. It’s a forward spot, and they need shooting. otherwise, it might be KBD.

[slick'81]

Devin. It’s a forward spot, and they need shooting. otherwise, it might be KBD.

Should definitely be devin's time to shine

[spurraider21]

there's probably an equal chance of forbes starting at the 3 tbh

[cd98]

there's probably an equal chance of forbes starting at the 3 tbh

Now I would like to see the epic explosion on Spurstalk if both were sent to the G-League and Primo was Forbes's back up and barely got minutes.

[spurraider21]

Now I would like to see the epic explosion on Spurstalk if both were sent to the G-League and Primo was Forbes's back up and barely got minutes.
:lol

[Spurs Homer]

The loss to the lakers was MAINLY because spurs players were all gassed and had their tongues hanging out

yet pop refused to either call timeouts to let them catch their breath

OR

allow primo and jock to get some run to rest the starters


all this on a LOTTERY TEAM?


gtfo defending pops bullshit


he talked about no one ever getting tired or getting too many points because EVERYONE would get to play

but as soon as he THOUGHT they were in a tight winnable game
He reverted to his old tired 7 man playoff-type rotation

but there is no manu, timmy or tony to play those crucial minutes

so why in da fuck were those scrubs all being force-fed minutes while fresh players on the bench sat and watched the TIRED OLD LAKERS- out hustle the young overplayed scrubs?

[exstatic]

The loss to the lakers was MAINLY because spurs players were all gassed and had their tongues hanging out

yet pop refused to either call timeouts to let them catch their breath

OR

allow primo and jock to get some run to rest the starters


all this on a LOTTERY TEAM?


gtfo defending pops bullshit


he talked about no one ever getting tired or getting too many points because EVERYONE would get to play

but as soon as he THOUGHT they were in a tight winnable game
He reverted to his old tired 7 man playoff-type rotation

but there is no manu, timmy or tony to play those crucial minutes

so why in da fuck were those scrubs all being force-fed minutes while fresh players on the bench sat and watched the TIRED OLD LAKERS- out hustle the young overplayed scrubs?

Pop has never, ever, ever, ever run a 7 man rotation. That’s a D’Antoni thing. Nine guys played double digit minutes. Not sure what game you watched.

[GAustex]

Jones or Forbes need to eat some minutes
Murray and White and Lonnie getting spent cause they playing so hard
Or primo if he better than Jones or Forbes

[HankChinaski]

Jones or Forbes need to eat some minutes
Murray and White and Lonnie getting spent cause they playing so hard
Or primo if he better than Jones or Forbes

Are you crazy!?! Forbes does not need to get more minutes. Have you watched the last 4 games?

[HankChinaski]

And to continue on that. This team is still figuring out stuff. Just relax and enjoy the games.

[Chomag]

I know some here are defending it but Its just silly that Pop is treating a lottery pick like a late 2nd rounder or walk on.

If he was talented enough to pick then he is talented enough to play in the NBA. Unless he's not...

I'm mean, I wonder how every top rookie in NBA history ever managed to play their rookie season.

[HankChinaski]

I know some here are defending it but Its just silly that Pop is treating a lottery pick like a late 2nd rounder or walk on.

If he was talented enough to pick then he is talented enough to play in the NBA. Unless he's not...

He should be getting minutes in SA and not in Austin.


Just not going to waste time griping about Pop or whatever.

In all likelihood all Primo has to do is perform really well in the G league and he'll be back with the main squad in a couple weeks.

[The Truth #6]

Everyone is crying for Primo, understandably, but really, it's Tre Jones who the team may need most in the short term. Our only true point guard and a solid defender who played well in Summer League, showing progress. But where does he get 8 minutes a night? All of Forbes 4 and a few from White and Murray. I could see that.

[GAustex]

Are you crazy!?! Forbes does not need to get more minutes. Have you watched the last 4 games?
No Hank I am not. The problem is the Murray, White and Lonnie are getting wore out cause they are playing so hard. Like I said they need someone to spell them but the reserves suck. Except maybe Primo could help. But I guess not. Maybe Jones can step up.

[Spurs Homer]

Everyone is crying for Primo, understandably, but really, it's Tre Jones who the team may need most in the short term. Our only true point guard and a solid defender who played well in Summer League, showing progress. But where does he get 8 minutes a night? All of Forbes 4 and a few from White and Murray. I could see that.

maybe tre jones has improved a little -


but Primo is doing as well or better and it didnt take him three fucking years!

tre jones took three years to even get to "scrub" level

[Spurs Homer]

Pop has never, ever, ever, ever run a 7 man rotation. That’s a D’Antoni thing. Nine guys played double digit minutes. Not sure what game you watched.

re-watch the 4th qtr and ot and then tell me how many players played during that time

[offset formation]

Lol. The first game isnt until November 5th. There are only like 7 games in all of November. They are only playing like 48 or 50 games this season that ends in early April.

So to be clear, they're not even sending him there for the kind of game action he would have gotten in the past. He's going there for practice..."we talkin bout practice." lmao.

the 12th overall pick is going to Austin for fucking practice with a bunch of non NBA level talent.

Fuck pop.

[The Truth #6]

maybe tre jones has improved a little -


but Primo is doing as well or better and it didnt take him three fucking years!

tre jones took three years to even get to "scrub" level

It's his second year. And he played better than Primo in Summer League from what I saw. Primo has a higher ceiling, yes, but it's ok to go to the G League for a short stint. If it's all season long, sure, I'll likely be annoyed. But if the Spurs are exciting and playing well, and Vassel and Walker and playing well consistently as we move forward, I'm not going to obsess and cry about it.

[spurraider21]

And to continue on that. This team is still figuring out stuff. Just relax and enjoy the games.
figuring out stuff is fine

unless part of that "stuff" is whether or not Bryn Forbes has any value and should be on the roster. that should already have been known

[Ocotillo]

I was checking out the Austin Spurs website and bad news, Primo has shrunk, he is listed at 6'4". :lol

[offset formation]

This is not a knock on Primo, as I'm on record for saying Pop is fucking up by sending Josh to Austin, but for those of us that were high on Sengun, behold:

https://twitter.com/DraftDummies/status/1453884590301401096?s=19

[Seventyniner]

It's not like Primo has to play either the entire G-League season or none at all. If he looks like a man among boys down there, even at his age, the Spurs can call him up at any time.

[offset formation]

It's not like Primo has to play either the entire G-League season or none at all. If he looks like a man among boys down there, even at his age, the Spurs can call him up at any time.

They dont play their 1st game for another week. Meanwhile everyone drafted in his range is playing.

Stop defending this. Its beyond indefensible.

[slick'81]

They dont play their 1st game for another week. Meanwhile everyone drafted in his range is playing.

Stop defending this. Its beyond indefensible.

Sniffers acceptance of pops ineptitude towards rookies continues

[The Truth #6]

This is not a knock on Primo, as I'm on record for saying Pop is fucking up by sending Josh to Austin, but for those of us that were high on Sengun, behold:

https://twitter.com/DraftDummies/status/1453884590301401096?s=19

Damn. I was Sengun or bust. I'm liking Primo, but drafting Sengun and not wasting time on Zac Collins would have been a good what if.

[slick'81]

Damn. I was Sengun or bust. I'm liking Primo, but drafting Sengun and not wasting time on Zac Collins would have been a good what if.

I wanted sengun 🥲

[slick'81]

Thankfully after this year when lonnie ,and brick are gone primo suave can finally eat

[jbspurs]

Primo is 37th! in total minutes played by a rookie this year lmao. You'd think this team would be fighting for a Championship using the logic of sending their Lottery pick to the G League while playing on a losing rebuilding team. Exactly! I just don't get some people here, acting like we are in a championship mix and that there is no room for Primo to learn from real NBA competition. Other rookies are learning from real NBA competition and are improving, gaining confidence. While Spurs rookie who showed he can ball even on limited minutes is rewarded with DNP and sent to DLeague. Imagine a player who played really well on their last outing, can't wait for the next game only to get DNP. Pop needs to retire!

[tim_duncan_fan]

playprimo

[Seventyniner]

They dont play their 1st game for another week. Meanwhile everyone drafted in his range is playing.

Stop defending this. Its beyond indefensible.

I don't like it, don't get me wrong. But I see the logic. Pop is still trying to win games at this point.

Once it becomes clear (to Pop) that the playoffs are out of reach he could do the logical thing and call up Primo. That should happen before the end of the G-League season.

Of course Pop might not do that and just leave Primo in Austin all year. I wouldn't approve of that.

[MI21]

Throwing Primo on the floor during the 4th quarter of this game would have been worth 2 months of G-league experience, tbh.

[Kurgan]

They dont play their 1st game for another week. Meanwhile everyone drafted in his range is playing.

Stop defending this. Its beyond indefensible.

Yup. You can't even use the age excuse seeing as Sengun is only 5 months older than Primo and Houston is still able to give him playing time. Are we really supposed to believe this 1-4 Spurs team is so stacked with talent that they can't find minutes for a rookie?

[offset formation]

Yup. You can't even use the age excuse seeing as Sengun is only 5 months older than Primo and Houston is still able to give him playing time. Are we really supposed to believe this 1-4 Spurs team is so stacked with talent that they can't find minutes for a rookie?

Certainly what pop and Ty Jaeger want you to swallow.

[pad300]

This is not a knock on Primo, as I'm on record for saying Pop is fucking up by sending Josh to Austin, but for those of us that were high on Sengun, behold:

https://twitter.com/DraftDummies/status/1453884590301401096?s=19

Yep, Sengun can play ball... That was, is and will be fucking obvious. Meanwhile we are playing undersized at the 4, and getting like 3 rbs/game from the PF spot...

[pad300]

For the record, by the by, I expected Primo to be in the G-league, and I have no problems with it. To be worth the draft slot, the FO has to expect him to develop to his fullest potential - a first option, offense initiating wing (pretty much the most valuable archetype in the association). He will not get minutes as a first option guy on this years spurs, like it or not. We have to many young vets who will eat before he gets a turn (DJ, White, Keldon, Vassel, Lonnie...). To get reps where he can learn to do that (be a first option, offense initiating wing), the only option is the G-League. Let him play 35 minutes a night in the role he needs to learn...

[spurs1990]

this is why senior citizens in the league should not be coaches. Guys like Larry Brown and Popovich don't really like playing young players. Once we move on from Popovich in 4 or 5 years, there will be an instant change.. That's what I'm looking forward to.

This is not facetious and in fact is more likely than him exiting after win 26. I don't he's got anything else other than this gig and he'll have to be horizontal to leave it. Hopefully Primo will pan out to me offered a near max at the end of coache's term

[TDMVPDPOY]

he only gets minutes if pop knows the season is over, or when he reaches whatever win record pop is aiming for b4 he retires...

but fck that shit

[slick'81]

Primo suave will return. No way in hell he spends more then the rest of the calendar year in prison

[duncan2k5]

One of the many problems with sending him to the g league is that some players are made better by the talent around them... He may fit perfectly with our roster, but look like a total dud in the less talented g- league filled with OTHER guys who are playing for a contract... It's not like those guys are like "yeah, I'll do my best to make Primo look good and develop"

[CGD]

Damn. I was Sengun or bust. I'm liking Primo, but drafting Sengun and not wasting time on Zac Collins would have been a good what if.

Agree, but I think our views will be different in 2 years. I still really like the Turk, but I can see the theory behind Primo at 12 now.

[exstatic]

maybe tre jones has improved a little -


but Primo is doing as well or better and it didnt take him three fucking years!

tre jones took three years to even get to "scrub" level

Tre Jones IS a second rounder, and this is his second season, not his fourth.

[dbestpro]

Primo in the g-league saves him from the losing culture of the big team

[exstatic]

re-watch the 4th qtr and ot and then tell me how many players played during that time

Your rotation isn’t one quarter, it’s the game. :lol. Every team has a closing lineup, Einstein.

[TDomination]

Primo in the g-league saves him from the losing culture of the big team

True to this.

Just watch tape of Timmy Tony Manu Spurs and/or any other great team of recent years and put that winning mentality in your brain. Make losing unacceptable. That’s the kind of mentality a star needs to have.

[SAGirl]

Meanwhile Grizzlies playing Ziaire Williams solid minutes off their bench and I cannot say he came in readier to play than Primo.Shaky jumper and so thin that a solid 2 years in the Gleague would have been Pop's prescription had he been drafted by the Spurs.

Hopefully this Gleague assignment ends as soon as Pop has gotten through to him to get over himself and all that humble pie he likes to start rooks with. Does anyone venture a guess at how long is this assignment?

[superbigtime]

cool with it if it's for 5 or so games.

[ernest787]

according to this board we should just start Primo and play him 40 minutes a night. why not? sink or swim.... right?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

silly spurstlakers

it's a smart move to play Primo as the main ballhandler as much as possible in the G League. When the coaches feel he's learned all he can learn from G League and/or can contribute meaningful minutes to SAS, he'll move up and into the regular rotation.

another move might be to put him in the regular rotation already in SAS, but as others have pointed out we have a lot of young guys who are playing for their next contract and need to eat


relax and enjoy the tank :toast

[exstatic]

silly spurstlakers

it's a smart move to play Primo as the main ballhandler as much as possible in the G League. When the coaches feel he's learned all he can learn from G League and/or can contribute meaningful minutes to SAS, he'll move up and into the regular rotation.

another move might be to put him in the regular rotation already in SAS, but as others have pointed out we have a lot of young guys who are playing for their next contract and need to eat


relax and enjoy the tank :toast

SpursTalk: We need to tank!
Also SpursTalk: OMG,why are we sending our top 10 pick to the gleague!

[Chinook]

What I don't understand is why the Spurs seem to think that their players need to play heavy minutes as focal points to learn. Being the clear best player on a team has advantages and disadvantages. Primo will very likely not be the best player on the Spurs when/if he gets a regular role with them. So a lot of time he's going to spend isn't really going to be used and may never really end up being helpful. It's much harder to learn things like moving off the ball and the timing of catch-and-shoot jumpers if you're always dominating the ball, and I think that is evident in how the young Spurs have played.

Funnily enough, one of the more noted Spurs development attributions, Danny Green, got most of his d-league burn with RGV where he wasn't asked to be the main ball-handler and got to play off Jeremy Lin instead. That allowed him to work on actual NBA skills. When he came to the Spurs, Pop tried to play Green at point, and that obviously didn't work. Danny had a lot of rudimentary skills like off-dribble pull-ups and slashes that never really became part of his game. If he'd spent a year focusing on those things rather than on refining what he did well into an NBA-level skill-set, then he'd've probably been out of the league a decade ago.

In that same way, I think if Murray had focused on shooting threes early in his career, he'd be a highly coveted three-and-D player like Green or Covington who was also starting to break out a floor game that suggested a higher ceiling rather than a guard whose offensive impact doesn't match his eye-test skills. That's not all on the coaches, as I think Murray's temperament made him predisposed to this style of play, but given how the team has approached developing all of their other prospects, I don't think he had to try very hard to convince them to put him on a star development track in lieu of role-playing 101.

I like Primo and think he has potential to be an offensive focal point. But I don't think he needs to train to be one now in order to get on the floor. He already seems to have an NBA body, an adequate BBIQ and skills that can make him useful on the floor. I think he could be a plus for the team right away, even though I am not one who considers him a clear star. My point is that even in fewer minutes, playing real games in a role he'll be playing with his actual teammates will do more to make Primo a contributor than would learning skills he's either going to have to shelve when he plays in real games or have them conflict with those of his teammates. Otherwise, there's a legit chance that next year, Josh is yet another guy running around the team without a sense of flow who makes flashy plays but gunks up the offense with poor spacing and awareness. And whichever guard the team drafts next year will be in the d-league while folks here defend it by saying that guard "needs to play heavy minutes as a ball-handler to grow and won't get those minutes with the big club".

[ChumpDumper]

:lol that's a lot of speculation

[Chinook]

:lol that's a lot of speculation

There's not much speculation in there outside of wondering about if Murray could've been an elite role-player had he focused on shooting and that Green not focusing on becoming an elite shooter would've jeopardized his already long odds to make it in the league. I don't see those are huge leaps, especially the second one. The entire thread is assuming Primo's going to the d-league to be a high-minute focal point. I guess you could argue me taking that assumption is speculation, but my guess is you also believe in that speculation.

[ChumpDumper]

There's not much speculation in there outside of wondering about if Murray could've been an elite role-player had he focused on shooting. The entire thread is assuming Primo's going to the d-league to be a high-minute focal point. I guess you could argue me taking that assumption is speculation, but my guess is you also believe in that speculation.You speculated on how the assignment affect Primo and future draft choices.

We don't even know how long his assignment will be. It's a lot of teeth gnashing at this point.

[Chinook]

You speculated on how the assignment affect Primo and future draft choices.

We don't even know how long his assignment will be. It's a lot of teeth gnashing at this point.

I said, (paraphrased), "If Primo spends the year getting heavy minutes as the first option, there's a good chance he's going to be running around just like all the other young guys with an in-between game but not much of a team game, and when the Spurs (who've learned nothing given how they would have handled Primo) draft a new guard (though it could be any perimeter player) and assign him again, people will defend it the same way." So if Primo doesn't do that, it's fine, but then it would be more proof that the logic posters here are using to justify a long assignment didn't make sense. I'd love for the Spurs to come out and be like, "Yeah, Primo doesn't need to play in the d-league to develop". I don't know why you think I wouldn't want them to make my argument for me.

[ChumpDumper]

Like I said, a lot of speculation.

[exstatic]

What I don't understand is why the Spurs seem to think that their players need to play heavy minutes as focal points to learn. Being the clear best player on a team has advantages and disadvantages. Primo will very likely not be the best player on the Spurs when/if he gets a regular role with them. So a lot of time he's going to spend isn't really going to be used and may never really end up being helpful. It's much harder to learn things like moving off the ball and the timing of catch-and-shoot jumpers if you're always dominating the ball, and I think that is evident in how the young Spurs have played.

Funnily enough, one of the more noted Spurs development attributions, Danny Green, got most of his d-league burn with RGV where he wasn't asked to be the main ball-handler and got to play off Jeremy Lin instead. That allowed him to work on actual NBA skills. When he came to the Spurs, Pop tried to play Green at point, and that obviously didn't work. Danny had a lot of rudimentary skills like off-dribble pull-ups and slashes that never really became part of his game. If he'd spent a year focusing on those things rather than on refining what he did well into an NBA-level skill-set, then he'd've probably been out of the league a decade ago.

In that same way, I think if Murray had focused on shooting threes early in his career, he'd be a highly coveted three-and-D player like Green or Covington who was also starting to break out a floor game that suggested a higher ceiling rather than a guard whose offensive impact doesn't match his eye-test skills. That's not all on the coaches, as I think Murray's temperament made him predisposed to this style of play, but given how the team has approached developing all of their other prospects, I don't think he had to try very hard to convince them to put him on a star development track in lieu of role-playing 101.

I like Primo and think he has potential to be an offensive focal point. But I don't think he needs to train to be one now in order to get on the floor. He already seems to have an NBA body, an adequate BBIQ and skills that can make him useful on the floor. I think he could be a plus for the team right away, even though I am not one who considers him a clear star. My point is that even in fewer minutes, playing real games in a role he'll be playing with his actual teammates will do more to make Primo a contributor than would learning skills he's either going to have to shelve when he plays in real games or have them conflict with those of his teammates. Otherwise, there's a legit chance that next year, Josh is yet another guy running around the team without a sense of flow who makes flashy plays but gunks up the offense with poor spacing and awareness. And whichever guard the team drafts next year will be in the d-league while folks here defend it by saying that guard "needs to play heavy minutes as a ball-handler to grow and won't get those minutes with the big club".

Danny Green never played for RGV. He played two games for Erie when he was with Cleveland, 13 with Reno after he was let go, and one for Austin, after the Spurs were interested.

Danny Green was a second rounder, and a clear role player. You would probably develop them differently from a top 10 pick.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I thought Chinook and Chump were the same person.

[exstatic]

I thought Chinook and Chump were the same person.

lol, no. Chump would never mistake Gerald Green for his second cousin Danny…

[rjv]

silly spurstlakers

it's a smart move to play Primo as the main ballhandler as much as possible in the G League. When the coaches feel he's learned all he can learn from G League and/or can contribute meaningful minutes to SAS, he'll move up and into the regular rotation.

another move might be to put him in the regular rotation already in SAS, but as others have pointed out we have a lot of young guys who are playing for their next contract and need to eat


relax and enjoy the tank :toast


i'll be watching college basketball more closely this season. (and the G League)

[RC_Drunkford]

SpursTalk: We need to tank!
Also SpursTalk: OMG,why are we sending our top 10 pick to the gleague!

that's not even a contradiction. All tanking teams play their draft picks, that's why they lose :lmao

While we're at it, why don't we send Vassell to the G-League as well so he can be the focal point of the offense and expand his offensive game?

[MannyIsGod]

I'm torn. Surely primo can't really be worst than Forbes, but also I hope Tre Jones gets some time to show he's the backup PG for this team. Primo has shown flashes, but also I don't expect him to be a big contributor this year. I don't think sending him to the D League is bad, in that if he's going to play there and not on the Spurs, then its worth sending him down. I don't think Primo is as NBA ready as a lot of people here do, and its obvious this team isn't starting the year trying to tank. Yeah I dont know, but I don't think its as big a deal as many here think it is. If the kid is good, he'll play. I don't think the team is sending down a player that would drastically change the outcome of current games.

[boutons_deux]

We'll see if Primo kicks ass the G League and works his way back into SA Spurs

[spurraider21]

SpursTalk: We need to tank!
Also SpursTalk: OMG,why are we sending our top 10 pick to the gleague!
playing your top 10 pick in the big leagues is not antithetical to tanking

in fact it probably helps. and is the perfect opportunity for the player to go through is growing pains. the team can afford to (and in fact prefers to) absorb losses

[SAGirl]

There's not much speculation in there outside of wondering about if Murray could've been an elite role-player had he focused on shooting and that Green not focusing on becoming an elite shooter would've jeopardized his already long odds to make it in the league. I don't see those are huge leaps, especially the second one. The entire thread is assuming Primo's going to the d-league to be a high-minute focal point. I guess you could argue me taking that assumption is speculation, but my guess is you also believe in that speculation.
I don't even think that. I think Pop is set in his ways and he likes to humble folks etc, he's got his way of getting out that ego out of the way so he can have the players do whatever.

I agreed with a lot of your prior post particularly on how Primo already has a few NBA skills he can already play in some role. I do believe in players becoming better by being challenged with better competition and working on weaknesses in the off-season. Over time you place more in their plates if you think they can handle it. Also there are guys that need the gleague, they come in entirely too raw, with just size and athletic ability but need to add things, even if that's just muscle and strength for the position as the case may be.

For Primo I think he could definitely be playing already, even if he still needs to get better at other things besides the ones he can already do. Specially if the Spurs aren't a good team, what are they doing sending lottery picks to the Gleague to get over themselves? It doesn't make sense. Should they be playing Forbes who doesn't really make them competitive?

I also think they'll need to trade one of the guards they have developed (not Primo, it should be White, he's older and has reached his ceiling in this team). You have talked some about how the Spurs need to keep fishing for talent and cycling through prospects. I don't think Bryn has a role in this team because all their recent draft picks are wings (and Bryn is an uber-undersized wing, no one will say he's a PG.)

[Dex]

We should just trade Forbes for Kevin Durant, and Landale for prime Duncan, and KBD for mid-90s Michael Jordan. That would solve all our problems. Why is our front office too stupid to figure this out?

[Chomag]

How the he'll did Michael Jordan get good without going to the G League! Yes, I'm not saying Primo is MJ level but I'm just pointing out how silly it is that some people here are acting like a rookie player has to go to the G league to get better.

Again, its silly to send a10th pick there unless maybe they have shown that they are a disaster which Primo has shown to be the opposite thus far.

If they were skilled enough to make the lottery, then they are skilled enough to be in the NBA. Unless they are admitting that Primo is not a lottery level talent...

[rjv]

How the he'll did Michael Jordan get good without going to the G League! Yes, I'm not saying Primo is MJ level but I'm just pointing out how silly it is that some people here are acting like a rookie player has to go to the G league to get better.

Again, its silly to send a10th pick there unless maybe they have shown that they are a disaster which Primo has shown to be the opposite thus far.

If they were skilled enough to make the lottery, then they are skilled enough to be in the NBA. Unless they are admitting that Primo is not a lottery level talent...

it also helps to have played for three seasons under dean smith.

[exstatic]

How the he'll did Michael Jordan get good without going to the G League! Yes, I'm not saying Primo is MJ level but I'm just pointing out how silly it is that some people here are acting like a rookie player has to go to the G league to get better.

Again, its silly to send a10th pick there unless maybe they have shown that they are a disaster which Primo has shown to be the opposite thus far.

If they were skilled enough to make the lottery, then they are skilled enough to be in the NBA. Unless they are admitting that Primo is not a lottery level talent...

The Spurs have one of the best PD programs in the NBA over the last 10-15 years.

The Spurs have sent every first round pick, and some seconds since CoJo to the gleague, except Kawhi (defensive savant) and Vassell (no season, just a Gubble).

[james evans]

it also helps to have played for three seasons under dean smith.
KG didn't. He was drafted out of high school and thrown into the fire as a franchise player. Laettnar's garbage ass had to be traded because he couldn't accept that a kid fresh out of high school was better than him lol. KG struggled a bit in his first season and the next year he was an all star. What if Kobe was drafted to Popovich. does he become an all time great? Or do they clash, he spends most of his time in SA on the bench before he's traded and out of the league by the age of 25?

[james evans]

that's not even a contradiction. All tanking teams play their draft picks, that's why they lose :lmao

While we're at it, why don't we send Vassell to the G-League as well so he can be the focal point of the offense and expand his offensive game?
I still don't know what we'd tank for. Tanking to get an 8-10 pick that popovich won't play for 2 years?

[John B]

I still don't know what we'd tank for. Tanking to get an 8-10 pick that popovich won't play for 2 years?

Who says we tank? The last two year’s roster were just not good :lol

[Mnky]

How the he'll did Michael Jordan get good without going to the G League! Yes, I'm not saying Primo is MJ level but I'm just pointing out how silly it is that some people here are acting like a rookie player has to go to the G league to get better.

Again, its silly to send a10th pick there unless maybe they have shown that they are a disaster which Primo has shown to be the opposite thus far.

If they were skilled enough to make the lottery, then they are skilled enough to be in the NBA. Unless they are admitting that Primo is not a lottery level talent...

Jordan was 22. ...

Ppayers enter the league much earlier now. It's one of the reasons the G league is there. With so much variance in age drafted, its great to have a place to develop players outside of the world's best players.

It allows teams to develop them in their own "college" program. It's not a detriment as many make it out to be. It's the reason we see greater success rates from draft picks. It's not a coincidence one of the best draft track records belongs to an organization that heavily uses the G League. They develop NBA players.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Meanwhile Grizzlies playing Ziaire Williams solid minutes off their bench and I cannot say he came in readier to play than Primo.Shaky jumper and so thin that a solid 2 years in the Gleague would have been Pop's prescription had he been drafted by the Spurs.

Hopefully this Gleague assignment ends as soon as Pop has gotten through to him to get over himself and all that humble pie he likes to start rooks with. Does anyone venture a guess at how long is this assignment?

LOL can you imagine this board's reaction if the Spurs were playing Primo and he was shooting under 30%, with godawful advanced stats to boot? 90% of the threads on the first page would be about him being a bust.

[exstatic]

Meanwhile Grizzlies playing Ziaire Williams solid minutes off their bench and I cannot say he came in readier to play than Primo.Shaky jumper and so thin that a solid 2 years in the Gleague would have been Pop's prescription had he been drafted by the Spurs.

Hopefully this Gleague assignment ends as soon as Pop has gotten through to him to get over himself and all that humble pie he likes to start rooks with. Does anyone venture a guess at how long is this assignment?

The first part of the gleague is structured like the Gubble, minus the lockdown. It’s a round robin of all 29 teams divided into groups, everyone playing 14 games, with a single elimination tournament at the end. The second part is a typical 36 game gleague season. Primo, as a 15 man roster player, is not allowed to play the games that fall within the NBA All Star break, so knock off 2 or 3 games from the 36. Pop has also been known to call up assignees for part or all of the RRT.

So, the gleague could be as many as 54 games,if they make and win the tournament. Subtract the games he won’t be available for, and I’d put his assignment at 45-50 games, with a return at the end of the gleague season.

[Dejounte]

LOL can you imagine this board's reaction if the Spurs were playing Primo and he was shooting under 30%, with godawful advanced stats to boot? 90% of the threads on the first page would be about him being a bust.

kinda like Jalen Green the other night: 3-16 fga. 0-8 on 3’s

[Dejounte]

Speaking of Jalen, the rockets board sounds exactly like this one :lmao

topic was titled, “a disastrous summer for Stone (their gm)”

https://i.ibb.co/z5Ngk5z/802813-D3-F302-4230-B3-C7-3-E61-FE43-FC53.png

[BacktoBasics]

Wall might be worth a sniff but the money is basically insurmountable.

[exstatic]

Wall might be worth a sniff but the money is basically insurmountable.

At this point, Wall is just a shorter, worse version of DeRozan.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

LOL can you imagine this board's reaction if the Spurs were playing Primo and he was shooting under 30%, with godawful advanced stats to boot? 90% of the threads on the first page would be about him being a bust.


EXACTLY! you can’t please everyone and it would certainly be a damn feeding frenzy of negative post if the young man did get minutes and played awful

i think a lot of folks forget that the coaching staff see’s what these players can and cannot do way more than we do. They see them consistently at practice and when they are working out. while we speculate over a few clips or minutes we’ve seen of a player in garbage time of a game.

a perfect example is Forbes. Forbes gets run not because he is a teachers pet but because the guy is a damn good shooter. I remember listening to NBA radio over the summer and Antonio Daniels some how got to talking about Bryn Forbes and how good a shooter he is. Daniels still lives in San Antonio and he has played pick up ball with a lot of the Spurs players and he says during pickup games Forbes simply doesn’t miss when he shoots the ball. Lol. Daniels said the guy is one of the best shooters he has ever seen play the game. He also pointed out his deficiencies but stated the reason that a guy like Forbes is in the league is due to his shooting and in today’s game shooting is a needed skill more than ever.

I say all of that to say this again. I think Primo definitely is a better overall player than Forbes is now or every will be but this team needs shooting badly and Joshua needs minutes to work on his craft. Joshua isn’t going to beat out any of the players in front of him on the depth chart because if he was he would’ve impressed enough during Summer League, off season training, training camp, and preseason. The coaching staff has seen enough so far to think he can benefit from the G-League because they’ve seen him extensively more than we have

[Dejounte]

https://i.ibb.co/BZfT05r/55-B33440-B33-E-49-D2-B84-D-427-A739-BB302.jpg

[BackHome]

Man Primo is definitely not skipping out on Legs Day

[GAustex]

Think he could eat minutes better than Forbes?

[Mr. Body]

Primo's jacked for someone not even 19 years old.

[itzsoweezee]

EXACTLY! you can’t please everyone and it would certainly be a damn feeding frenzy of negative post if the young man did get minutes and played awful

i think a lot of folks forget that the coaching staff see’s what these players can and cannot do way more than we do. They see them consistently at practice and when they are working out. while we speculate over a few clips or minutes we’ve seen of a player in garbage time of a game.

a perfect example is Forbes. Forbes gets run not because he is a teachers pet but because the guy is a damn good shooter. I remember listening to NBA radio over the summer and Antonio Daniels some how got to talking about Bryn Forbes and how good a shooter he is. Daniels still lives in San Antonio and he has played pick up ball with a lot of the Spurs players and he says during pickup games Forbes simply doesn’t miss when he shoots the ball. Lol. Daniels said the guy is one of the best shooters he has ever seen play the game. He also pointed out his deficiencies but stated the reason that a guy like Forbes is in the league is due to his shooting and in today’s game shooting is a needed skill more than ever.

I say all of that to say this again. I think Primo definitely is a better overall player than Forbes is now or every will be but this team needs shooting badly and Joshua needs minutes to work on his craft. Joshua isn’t going to beat out any of the players in front of him on the depth chart because if he was he would’ve impressed enough during Summer League, off season training, training camp, and preseason. The coaching staff has seen enough so far to think he can benefit from the G-League because they’ve seen him extensively more than we have

Sniff sniff sniff

[exstatic]

Think he could eat minutes better than Forbes?

I don’t want him eating minutes. I want him learning a rocker step. I want him operating out of the triple threat position. I want him cleaning up his handle. He needs the ball in his hands, a lot. He needs to be the focus.

You can get a guy off the waiver wire to eat minutes.

[GAustex]

Well I want to play the game to win the game.

[exstatic]

Well I want to play the game to win the game.

Primo in Austin is about winning more games in the future. If he’s just eating Forbes minutes, he won’t be developing, or impacting the game.

[GAustex]

Primo in Austin is about winning more games in the future. If he’s just eating Forbes minutes, he won’t be developing, or impacting the game.
I get what ur saying.
I wonder if 20 mins in the bigs is worth more than 35 in the minors. Plus DJM and DW and Lonnie need help.

[emanueldavidginobili]

This kid is going to be a monster physically in a couple of years by the looks of it

[Ice009]

Geez, does he look bigger than when he was drafted? He's already looking bigger to me.

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Geez, does he look bigger than when he was drafted? He's already looking bigger to me.

no sh!t, dude's got a stout base on him.

[slick'81]

Primo with the tree trunks.

[lefty20]

Thicc!

[playbonner15]

Hope he lights up the G-league & develop some winning combo with Cacok

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I get what ur saying.
I wonder if 20 mins in the bigs is worth more than 35 in the minors. Plus DJM and DW and Lonnie need help.

definitely 20 minutes in the big leagues is worth more than 35 in the minor leagues.

I just don’t think Primo would consistently get 20 minutes in the NBA at this point in the season without playing him over guys (outside of Forbes) that the coaching staff and locker room most likely deem as more ready than him at this point.

Maybe later in the season once he has figured out the play book and team philosophies, trades happen, or injuries occur he most likely will be behind the more seasoned players.

[The Truth #6]

Is he 6'8" yet? I was promised open growth plates and superstardom. How much longer must we wait???

[Dex]

Is he 6'8" yet? I was promised open growth plates and superstardom. How much longer must we wait???

I heard he is 6'13" with -2% body fat.

[DJR210]

I heard he is 6'13" with -2% body fat.

:lol

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I heard he is 6'13" with -2% body fat.

that's in shoes though

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that's in shoes though

and deded

[pad300]

I get what ur saying.
I wonder if 20 mins in the bigs is worth more than 35 in the minors. Plus DJM and DW and Lonnie need help.

I don't think that's the choice though. The choice is a) 0-5 minutes in the bigs vs b) 35+ minutes in the g league... Yeah, Pop could find 20 MPG for him, but he ain't going to. Not with DJ, White, Vassel, Lonnie, Keldon and Tre ahead of him for development minutes at the 1-3...

[GAustex]

I don't think that's the choice though. The choice is a) 0-5 minutes in the bigs vs b) 35+ minutes in the g league... Yeah, Pop could find 20 MPG for him, but he ain't going to. Not with DJ, White, Vassel, Lonnie, Keldon and Tre ahead of him for development minutes at the 1-3...
Well that is what I am getting at. He should get 20. He should get all of Forbes and spell big minute dudes like DJM and White just a bit. But Pop

[ceperez]

https://i.ibb.co/BZfT05r/55-B33440-B33-E-49-D2-B84-D-427-A739-BB302.jpg

He looks like this just with a few months of Spurs training?

[GAustex]

Got them Zion legs
Hope he don’t get fat
Keep him away from Whataburger

[rjv]

anyone know if any of the G-League games will be televised? i'm assuming they will be as fabricio is in town and he was the color analyst for last year's G-League bubble season.

[Rocalcio]

anyone know if any of the G-League games will be televised? i'm assuming they will be as fabricio is in town and he was the color analyst for last year's G-League bubble season.

If I remember clearly you could watch it on YouTube during the last seasons

[RC_Drunkford]

don't forget that's the same coach who played Mason Plumlee over Bam Adebayo on Team USA cause Bam :pop: "wasn't ready"

[The Truth #6]

It's ok to send players to the G League. It's actually a good idea. The problem is that Pop makes players wait too long sometimes, probably often times, but not all the time. I think it's reasonable to see how he does in the G League first. If he is overwhelmingly awesome, then yeah, bring him up. If he struggles, then let's pump the brakes. So far he has been erratic: equal amounts of mistakes with awesome plays. It's a great trajectory so far. But do we want him coming up and taking all of, say, Walker's minutes. I don't.

TLDR: I am pausing my outrage until it's justified.

[GAustex]

Why not run the kid bench participant minutes for idk 10 games to see if you got something?

[Sugus]

Why not run the kid bench participant minutes for idk 10 games to see if you got something?

Because the staff has already seen he's "got something". They're currently trying to develop that "something" into something. Hard concept to grasp, ain't it?

[GAustex]

Because the staff has already seen he's "got something". They're currently trying to develop that "something" into something. Hard concept to grasp, ain't it?
Nm

[ChumpDumper]

If I remember clearly you could watch it on YouTube during the last seasons

Those were the good ol' days. They've been all over the place lately. Wish they would pick one carrier and stick to it.

[Sugus]

If I remember clearly you could watch it on YouTube during the last seasons

They've actually been mostly sticking to transmitting via Facebook Live or whatever it's called during the last few seasons. I certainly remember watching a lot of the Keldon-Luka G-League team's games through FB at least. I dunno if they'll change the streaming mode for this upcoming season, but hopefully it's on another platform other than FB, it's really shite for streaming stuff tbh.

[slick'81]

He looks like this just with a few months of Spurs training?

gotta love that hgh

[Russ]

The Spurs official website used to link to the Austin Spurs. You could see box scores, roster facts, etc. That link no longer works.

The Spurs also no longer send their broadcasters to call the big team's road games -- interesting.

At least the team still has a Zoom link to the great Matt Bonner in New Hampshire for the postgame show. (Maybe it's cheaper to maintain him there.)

[BackHome]

Geez, does he look bigger than when he was drafted? He's already looking bigger to me.

When we drafted him I noticed the dude has some serious ham strings but yeah his upper body has definitely seen some serious improvement

[ducks]

Has pop ever had a “rookie of the year” on his team?

Primo’s agent should work for his client and bug the shit out of the front office tbh

Primo agent should walk in with let’s go Brandon shit and a make America great hat

[tim_duncan_fan]

https://i.ibb.co/BZfT05r/55-B33440-B33-E-49-D2-B84-D-427-A739-BB302.jpg

Man's out here looking like Lonnie. Hopefully he actually uses these growing muscles.

[Rocalcio]

They've actually been mostly sticking to transmitting via Facebook Live or whatever it's called during the last few seasons. I certainly remember watching a lot of the Keldon-Luka G-League team's games through FB at least. I dunno if they'll change the streaming mode for this upcoming season, but hopefully it's on another platform other than FB, it's really shite for streaming stuff tbh.

You're right, it was on Facebook, not YouTube.

[exstatic]

Last year, almost the whole Gubble was on FSSW in the last months before they converted to Bally.

[duncan2k5]

a rookie Giannis once said:

"For sure I would like to play here and not D-League," Antetokounmpo said. "If I go into the D-League and play 30 minutes, that is not for me. I don't know what it would do. If I play here, I go on the court for six minutes, the next game, I play seven. Then maybe nine. I will be happy. Then when I reach 10, 15, I believe for a 18-year-old guy, who has only played in second division in Greece, I believe 12, 15 minutes on an NBA team is nice. So I want to stay here and month by month, I get better, I play more, I can hit my maximum."

how did he ever manage without the g-league? I shudder to think what Giannis would have been had he been drafted by this version of Pop (Giannis was also 18, and drafted even lower than Primo)

[emanueldavidginobili]

Some guy named Ayo Dosunmu rookie second round draft pick had a big game off the bench last night for the Bulls in Boston. The 6-1 Bulls are finding ways to get this kid some minutes, and Primo is in Austin working on ball handling drills while his team is losing games.

[slick'81]

Some guy named Ayo Dosunmu rookie second round draft pick had a big game off the bench last night for the Bulls in Boston. The 6-1 Bulls are finding ways to get this kid some minutes, and Primo is in Austin working on ball handling drills while his team is losing games.

we all knew it was coming. In pop we trust

[Rito3d30]

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/1455909919790669829

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/1455909919790669829

:lol:lmao all the meltdowns this past week.

:lmao all the meltdowns if he gets assigned again.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

:cry why bother losing games if spurs will just take their high draft picks and try to develop them :cry

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:lmao all the meltdowns this past week.

:lmao all the meltdowns if he gets assigned again.

he's played like 5 minutes of competitive basketball in 7 games. he's the 12th pick. there are second rounders that have played more. he can work on his handles in SA.