OT: 2022 WORLD CUP @ Qatar

[lefty]

I have France as favorites but it's 1 game, anything can happen

[dunkman]

France vs Marocco 2:0

France made it to the finals.

[dunkman]

Finals will be:

Argentina vs France

Third place:

Croatia vs Marocco

Remember once in the 80’s France was so disappointed after losing the semifinals, they fielded reserves for third place game. Looks incredible now.

[FrostKing]

I have France as favorites but it's 1 game, anything can happen
I thought it's Best of 7



Battle for 3rd Star is great story line

[spurraider21]

France vs Marocco 2:0

France made it to the finals.
where would we be without your updates

[hater]

Updated odds to win it all:
Africance 95%
Choripanes 50%


Africance is superior to Choripanes in everything. From best player, to offense to D, etc

But they do have a tendency to play down to the competition and get distracted. So Choripanes have a punchers chance.

Sunday final is denitely a must see

[spurraider21]

Updated odds to win it all:
Africance 95%
Choripanes 50%
this the kind of math that led you to predict 3-5 days?

[Brazil]

I thought it's Best of 7



Battle for 3rd Star is great story line

also Messi and mbappe with 5 goals each and revanche of 2018

[spurraider21]

also Messi and mbappe with 5 goals each and revanche of 2018
lol 3 of messi's came from PK's including in a loss to saudi arabia

[FrostKing]

also Messi and mbappe with 5 goals each and revanche of 2018
https://i.ibb.co/k1N6sq9/Screenshot-20221214-150552-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/h8V5LPW/102274936-hi047839558.jpg


https://youtu.be/6C6oOcDFmLY

[resistanze]

Can't believe I booked a flight taking off 30 min after kickoff on Sunday :lol

First finals I'll miss since....1994? Maybe my folks can DVR it for me and I can get home without seeing the result (yeah right)

[hater]

this the kind of math that led you to predict 3-5 days?

Lol the forums Chimpanzee talking about math :lol

[FrostKing]

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https://i.ibb.co/Z6mqvYy/Screenshot-20221214-160416-Samsung-Internet.jpg

Imagine being raised by a foreign nation and this is how you repay them

[hater]

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https://i.ibb.co/Z6mqvYy/Screenshot-20221214-160416-Samsung-Internet.jpg


Imagine being raised by a foreign nation and this is how you repay them


Imagine pillaging their resources and enslaving their people then complaining about them burning a few cars


Fuck around find out.

Colonial France finding out

[FrostKing]

Imagine pillaging their resources and enslaving their people then complaining about them burning a few cars


Fuck around find out.

Colonial France finding out
So they are a parasite?

Does the fact their precious NT wouldn't even be in the Tournament without Daddy France's resources, escape them?

[hater]

So they are a parasite?

Does the fact their precious NT wouldn't even be in the Tournament without Daddy France's resources, escape them?

Yup France and all colonial Europe are parasites.

The fact thatbthey can compete at a high level despite France and others Raping them for centuries is commendable :tu

[lefty]

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https://i.ibb.co/Z6mqvYy/Screenshot-20221214-160416-Samsung-Internet.jpg

Imagine being raised by a foreign nation and this is how you repay them
Looks like the French colonial era tbh

[FrostKing]

There is truth to laughing at France for importing people evidently still stuck in the Colonial Age.

No rioting in Croatia or Argentina this week...

[lefty]

There is truth to laughing at France for importing people evidently still stuck in the Colonial Age.

No rioting in Croatia or Argentina this week...

They are just paying the price for decades of murdering, torturing, raping and stealing tbh
But the debt is far from being paid

Argies, Polish and Croatians are too soft tbh :lol
Nice people

[DAF86]

https://turivers3.b-cdn.net/optimized/4X/0/1/4/0143bce54345493ef3c7b5f6eebce269af51fccf_2_798x100 0.jpeg

4th place in the history of the WC in play.

[Bynumite]

They are just paying the price for decades of murdering, torturing, raping and stealing tbh
But the debt is far from being paid

Argies, Polish and Croatians are too soft tbh :lol
Nice people

Pretty much every nation on earth had blood on their hands at some point in history. Contrary to popular belief, whites didn't run a monopoly of slave trade.

Guys in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Might want to educate yourself and look up the history of your people, lefty. Before you decide to play victim :lol




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Algeria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

[FrostKing]

They are just paying the price for decades of murdering, torturing, raping and stealing tbh
But the debt is far from being paid

Argies, Polish and Croatians are too soft tbh :lol
Nice people
I understand your point Lefty. As an immigrant I've verbally bashed USA before but never resorted to something physical. And this hurts the reputation of all Moroccans especially those that are just trying to start a life in a foreign nation. Yes these are by and large trouble making youth. My friend told me he saw Moroccans online attempting to persuade fellow fans to not whistle especially during an opposing anthem.

I've learned that neutrals will be far more sympathetic to your struggle if you show them, that there was something special stolen/destroyed/raped and the best way to do that is by our behavior & success today.

[Ariel]

No rioting in Croatia or Argentina this week...

Argies, Polish and Croatians are too soft tbh :lolNice people
Yeah, sure :lol
Actually the WC is opium for the masses over here, the government is praying for a win that pushes problems forward. f Argentina loses the WC on sunday, riots and political protests are sure to follow. Book it... although for obvious reasons, I hope we don't get to find out. :lol

[lefty]

Pretty much every nation on earth had blood on their hands at some point in history. Contrary to popular belief, whites didn't run a monopoly of slave trade.

Guys in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Might want to educate yourself and look up the history of your people, lefty. Before you decide to play victim :lol




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Algeria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

Speaking of education you might want to read the articles before commenting on the topic :lol

It was the Ottomans who did that

[Amuseddaysleeper]

For the first time in the tournament, midget's gonna be an underdog. Interesting :wakeup

Like Portugal in 2016 we have had a good path to the the final. But unlike Portugal we will need our highest goal scorer to play well not get carried


Should be a good game Sunday I hope

[Bynumite]

Speaking of education you might want to read the articles before commenting on the topic :lol

It was the Ottomans who did that


"Ninety-nine percent of the population is classified as Arab/ Berber; most Algerians are considered to be of Berber descent, but only about 20% speak Berber languages."

"Attracted by the rich European sea trade through the Mediterranean following the discovery of sea routes to Americas and India, the Berbers resorted to raiding ships and coastal towns – capturing European people and selling them in the lucrative Ottoman slave markets."


Your people did that shit too, lefty. You're not a victim. Sorry you had to find out this way. Cheer up, buddy :toast

[ElNono]

Any thoughts? :wakeup

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971639264771211308/1052203352185909368/IMG_2576.jpg?width=507&height=676

Butthurt confirmed, tbh

[ElNono]

The two best teams in the world making the finals, as expected, tbh...

[FrostKing]

The two best teams in the world making the finals, as expected, tbh...
Cocky mood today huh


Typical person rooting for Argentina in the Finale. Either
A) Argentinian
B) Messi fan
C) against multi kulti :lol

[Ariel]

Cocky mood today huh


Typical person rooting for Argentina in the Finale. Either
A) Argentinian
B) Messi fan
C) against multi kulti :lol
holy crap, you mean to tell me Argentinians root for Argentina & Messi fans root for Messi??!!! wow, deep thinking there buddy :lol

[FrostKing]

holy crap, you mean to tell me Argentinians root for Argentina & Messi fans root for Messi??!!! wow, deep thinking there buddy :lol
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[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/tBsyCrY/Screenshot-20221214-204706-Chrome.jpg

[ElNono]

Cocky mood today huh

Nah, just being real, tbh... America champs vs African champs...

[lefty]

Your people did that shit too, lefty. You're not a victim. Sorry you had to find out this way. Cheer up, buddy :toast

Good job copy pasting non facts :lol

[FrostKing]

Argentina are more consistent. France has the higher skill set and ceiling but also prone to lapses in focuses.

All those Pre-Tournament injuries and now virus in the camp? It might just catch up with France.

IMO super tight match that comes down to bounces & deflections.

[Bynumite]

Good job copy pasting non facts :lol

Your source: "Trust me bro" :lol

Google says your people did it, lefty. Even though you tried to deflect and attempted to put the blame solely on the Ottomans :lol Your people captured and enslaved europeans.

Now should europeans travel to Algeria en masse and burn algerian cities down, because of something that happened centuries ago?

Because that's what you implied in your initial post. North Africans apparently are entitled to riot and burn french cities down because of french colonialism :lol

Strong backwards thinking, lefty :lol

[Brazil]

lol 3 of messi's came from PK's including in a loss to saudi arabia

so you are saying that they are at 5 each and this is also a side story to this final... thanks for confirming

[Brazil]

Deschamps overthought this game against Morocco tbh... good that France took this game seriously but that was ugly... We need to raise our level of play by a lot to compete in this final... hopefully everybody will be healthy for the final, Konate did a good job but Fofana is no Rabiot. I would have never imagined saying that Rabiot playing at high level would be essential to win a WC :lol

[Brazil]

On a side note, Griezman like in 2018 is the mvp of this team tbh... dude is unbelievable with blue jersey. Loving to also see Lloris having a great WC... so much for the english saying is the weak link of this team :lol England

[FrostKing]

On a side note, Griezman like in 2018 is the mvp of this team tbh... dude is unbelievable with blue jersey. Loving to also see Lloris having a great WC... so much for the english saying is the weak link of this team :lol England
Ya Argentina should gameplan neutralizing Griezmann. He is France's maestro and directly stirs the drink.

Dark horse for the Finale I have to take Dembele. Where has he been.

Everyone bashes French defense but I think it's been rather flex don't break. Confident bunch don't panic.

[Brazil]

Ya Argentina should gameplan neutralizing Griezmann. He is France's maestro and directly stirs the drink.

Dark horse for the Finale I have to take Dembele. Where has he been.

Everyone bashes French defense but I think it's been rather flex don't break. Confident bunch don't panic.

As Mbappe is the only one with 0 defense assignment, Dembele is receiving strict orientations to protect that right side, he overdid it against Morocco tbh but he had his hand full with Hakimi. He had the good balance imo against England and I hope this will be the case for the final. France is lucky enough to have this talent accepting to do dirty work all game long.

Now France will have defend higher against Argentina

[ElNono]

Ya Argentina should gameplan neutralizing Griezmann. He is France's maestro and directly stirs the drink.

Dark horse for the Finale I have to take Dembele. Where has he been.

Everyone bashes French defense but I think it's been rather flex don't break. Confident bunch don't panic.

You better root for Argentina, tbh, last nation trying to salvage whatever is left of det Aryan pride...

[FrostKing]

You better root for Argentina, tbh, last nation trying to salvage whatever is left of det Aryan pride...

https://i.ibb.co/xYGYGWk/IMG-20221214-WA0028.jpg

Interesting debate between international friends. My USA buddies love the pointless off the field story lines. My 2nd Favorite World Cup.

[FrostKing]

As Mbappe is the only one with 0 defense assignment, Dembele is receiving strict orientations to protect that right side, he overdid it against Morocco tbh but he had his hand full with Hakimi. He had the good balance imo against England and I hope this will be the case for the final. France is lucky enough to have this talent accepting to do dirty work all game long.

Now France will have defend higher against Argentina

:reading

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/7RLH4CV/ref.webp

Polish referee Marciniak might do the Finale


For the record Polska faced both finalist

[dunkman]

Few players could have reached 3-World Cup victories, like Pelé. Maradona wasn’t called off for the 78’ Argentina NT, then in 82’ the team failed, in 86’ was unanimous best player and finally champion, in 90’s Germans were better and in 94’ there were doping problems.

Ronaldo Nazario didn’t play a single minute in 94’, in 98’ had some health problems for the finals and the French were also better. In 02’ he got his second World Coup, but from there on Brazil wasn’t as competitive to win another coup.

Messi missed a chance with Argentina in 14’, but maybe he could get one this 22’.

MBappé has only 23, and the chance to repeat with France, for the first time, since Pelé repeated in 58’ and 62’, though he only played 2 games in 62’ due to international injuries sustained in a game. MBappé seems the best player in the World right now, though Messi is more an efficient player rather than super flashy like the others, and may actually be better than anyone else. The French also had a very strong side, capable of multiple World Coup triumphs.

My wish is Argentina wins this one, defense is clicking, Messi playing incredibly and Álvarez increasingly unstoppable as the tourney advances. But the game vs France will be a real tough one.

[dunkman]

On a side note, Griezman like in 2018 is the mvp of this team tbh... dude is unbelievable with blue jersey. Loving to also see Lloris having a great WC... so much for the english saying is the weak link of this team :lol England

Lloris made some unbelievable saves vs Marocco. Great GK, tbh. But at this point everyone is good.

[FrostKing]

Few players could have reached 3-World Cup victories, like Pelé. Maradona wasn’t called off for the 78’ Argentina NT, then in 82’ the team failed, in 86’ was unanimous best player and finally champion, in 90’s Germans were better and in 94’ there were doping problems.

Ronaldo Nazario didn’t play a single minute in 94’, in 98’ had some health problems for the finals and the French were also better. In 02’ he got his second World Coup, but from there on Brazil wasn’t as competitive to win another coup.

Messi missed a chance with Argentina in 14’, but maybe he could get one this 22’.

MBappé has only 23, and the chance to repeat with France, for the first time, since Pelé repeated in 58’ and 62’, though he only played 2 games in 62’ due to international injuries sustained in a game. MBappé seems the best player in the World right now, though Messi is more an efficient player rather than super flashy like the others, and may actually be better than anyone else. The French also had a very strong side, capable of multiple World Coup triumphs.

My wish is Argentina wins this one, defense is clicking, Messi playing incredibly and Álvarez increasingly unstoppable as the tourney advances. But the game vs France will be a real tough one.
Fun Tournament brother.

I see your wish is Argentina.

What is your background? I'm Polak immigrated to California.

[dunkman]

Fun Tournament brother.

I see your wish is Argentina.

What is your background? I'm Polak immigrated to California.

I’m Serbian by nationality and lived in Belgrade till 15. Then emigrated to Peru when my family moved there, but as some point realized maybe I’m little more a Chico Latino than Serbian since my father was Latinamerican. Lived very long time in North of Peru, few years in Santa Cruz, Bolivia and Lima, Peru too, and eventually moved to Montreal, Canada some 10 years ago. Sometimes gets hard to explain myself, when they ask where I’m from tbh.

[FrostKing]

Serbia > Peru > (Bolovia) > Montreal

This fellow Slav loves this story

[DAF86]

https://i.ibb.co/tBsyCrY/Screenshot-20221214-204706-Chrome.jpg

They have all Covid but FIFA is gonna play dumb, tbh. :lol

[FrostKing]

They have all Covid but FIFA is gonna play dumb, tbh. :lol
It's destined Messi wins

[lefty]

Mbapoe likes Hakimi too much tbh

https://twitter.com/kmbappe/status/1603168463870042114

[dunkman]

It's destined Messi wins

That’s far from given my fellow Slavic brother. The French have good chances too.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I’m Serbian by nationality and lived in Belgrade till 15. Then emigrated to Peru when my family moved there, but as some point realized maybe I’m little more a Chico Latino than Serbian since my father was Latinamerican. Lived very long time in North of Peru, few years in Santa Cruz, Bolivia and Lima, Peru too, and eventually moved to Montreal, Canada some 10 years ago. Sometimes gets hard to explain myself, when they ask where I’m from tbh.

Djokovic is the GOAT :toast

[hater]

There is truth to laughing at France for importing people evidently still stuck in the Colonial Age.

No rioting in Croatia or Argentina this week...

Argentines only riot when theres no futbol :lmao

[hater]

They are just paying the price for decades of murdering, torturing, raping and stealing tbh
But the debt is far from being paid

Argies, Polish and Croatians are too soft tbh :lol
Nice people

Yup

[hater]

The two best teams in the world making the finals, as expected, tbh...

Yup just like that NBA finals of Sixers vs Lakers

Choripanes = sixers

Africance = Lakers

[dunkman]

Djokovic is the GOAT :toast

Yeah, it seems when it’s all said and done he may be considered better than Nadal and Federer. But Nadal is still going strong and may be perhaps be able to stack more Roland Garros titles even past his prime. But overall, what Djokovic does is incredible. Don’t remember anyone so old win the ATP finals.

[Brazil]

Argentines only riot when theres no futbol :lmao

they riot when hungry tbh... :lol

[hater]

they riot when hungry tbh... :lol

Banging pots and pans to change the world :lmao

[DAF86]

https://i.ibb.co/7RLH4CV/ref.webp

Polish referee Marciniak might do the Finale


For the record Polska faced both finalist

Always a UEFA ref. I would like to see if the French would accept a Peruvian ref.

[DAF86]

Yup just like that NBA finals of Sixers vs Lakers

Choripanes = sixers

Africance = Lakers

The difference here is that our midget leading us to that first win is all we need, tbh.

[hater]

The difference here is that our midget leading us to that first win is all we need, tbh.

:tu

Good luck ma nig

[hater]

The difference here is that our midget leading us to that first win is all we need, tbh.

:tu

Good luck ma nig

[spurraider21]

so you are saying that they are at 5 each and this is also a side story to this final... thanks for confirming
i dont count PK's unless you drew the PK, tbh

its like having a free throw specialist in NBA getting credit for the foul somebody else drew :lol

[Bynumite]

i dont count PK's unless you drew the PK, tbh

its like having a free throw specialist in NBA getting credit for the foul somebody else drew :lol

I'm no midgetfan but this is the most retarded shit i've ever read in the football forum :lmao

American sports fans :lol

[hater]

I'm no midgetfan but this is the most retarded shit i've ever read in the football forum :lmao

American sports fans :lol

:lmao

Thats Chimpanzee for you :lol

[hater]

:lmao

Thats Chimpanzee for you :lol

If you wanna keep him busy for a few hours bring up bball flagrant/technical fouls :lol

[Bynumite]

That's like saying, i don't count free kicks if the FK taker didn't draw the FK :lol

Even though it takes immense skill to score free kicks at a consistent rate.

[spurraider21]

That's like saying, i don't count free kicks if the FK taker didn't draw the FK :lol

Even though it takes immense skill to score free kicks at a consistent rate.
only slightly. degree of difficulty difference for a direct free kick and a PK are night and day. PK is like shaq posting up drawing a triple team and a foul and then sasha pavlovic comes off the bench and takes his free throws for him and gets the points credited to him

[Bynumite]

only slightly. degree of difficulty difference for a direct free kick and a PK are night and day

PK conversion rate hovers around 75%, pretty much the same for NBA free throws.

This WC for example, we witnessed Spain failing to score a single penalty in a penalty shootout. Penalties are not as much of a freebie as you think, especially in elimination games.

[hater]

PK conversion rate hovers around 75%, pretty much the same for NBA free throws.

:lol imagine if PKs needed to be shot only by those who got fouled :lol

That % would drop to 50%

Americans thinking taking a PK is easy peezy is hilarious and sad :lol

[Bynumite]

Holy shit, I actually looked up the conversion rate of PK's in Qatar and it's down to 58% in this World Cup :wow

From an article posted 4 days ago:



A very high number of penalties have been missed in the 2022 World Cup (https://bolavip.com/en/qatar2022/Kylian-Mbappes-reaction-to-Harry-Kanes-penalty-miss-that-let-France-beat-England-20221210-0035.html). A stunning 42 percent of penalty kicks have failed to find the net in the most recent statistics available before the Quarter-Finals. The conversion rate for the 31 penalties is just 58 percent (https://bolavip.com/en/qatar2022/iran-gk-alireza-beiranvand-from-being-homeless-to-saving-cristiano-ronaldos-penalty-kick-in-a-world-cup-20221103-0007.html). It was 71 percent in the last World Cup, so this is a significant drop.

https://bolavip.com/en/qatar2022/Qatar-2022-What-percentage-of-penalty-kicks-are-scored-20221211-0035.html



Again, it's definitely tougher than it looks. Completely packed stadium, with your country on your back, elimination game. Percentages are bound to go down compared to your average league game.

[spurraider21]

PK conversion rate hovers around 75%, pretty much the same for NBA free throws.
thanks for confirming my analogy :lol

[Bynumite]

thanks for confirming my analogy :lol

How so?

Football as a designated penalty taker, the nba doesn't have a designated free throw shooter (unless it's a technical) and still, the conversion rate is pretty much the same.

Logic dictates that the PK conversion rate would go down, if the player who drew the foul was the one taking the penalty.

Plus, you might want to revert to the article i've posted above, where it says PK conversion rate is down to 58% this World Cup :lol


Just admit that your take of not counting PK's unless you drew the foul yourself is stupid. It's not a big deal, man.

[ElNono]

Holy shit, I actually looked up the conversion rate of PK's in Qatar and it's down to 58% in this World Cup :wow

From an article posted 4 days ago:

https://bolavip.com/en/qatar2022/Qatar-2022-What-percentage-of-penalty-kicks-are-scored-20221211-0035.html

Again, it's definitely tougher than it looks. Completely packed stadium, with your country on your back, elimination game. Percentages are bound to go down compared to your average league game.

All those factors are the same as the last World Cup, tbh... I think the difference now is that teams have much more information about tendencies, etc.

Also, this World Cup being in the middle of soccer season, plenty of players pretty tired, and all these shootouts happen after extended time.

[spurraider21]

How so?

Football as a designated penalty taker, the nba doesn't have a designated free throw shooter and still, the conversion rate is pretty much the same.

Logic dictates that the PK conversion rate would go down, if the player who drew the foul was the one taking the penalty.

Plus, you might want to revert to the article i've posted above, where it says PK conversion rate is down to 58% this World Cup :lol


Just admit that your take of not counting PK's unless you drew the foul yourself is stupid. It's not a big deal, man.
you've basically proven that these designated PK takers are getting goals for converting a shot at the same rate as an average NBA free throw shooter. they're expected to score them and thats despite whether or not they're the player who earned them.

and how about a longer sample size than just this year's WC? how about more historical figures? if you go back to 1978, they're closer to 80% (i literally googled "world cup penalty conversion rate and this was the first article with historical data... https://theanalyst.com/na/2022/12/world-cup-penalty-shootouts-the-facts/)

and nah, my take is fine. players A/B/C create a viable scoring opportunity (or lets be real, get the ball into the box and then fall down grabbing their knee), and then player D comes in and makes a FT and he gets the credit for the goal on the leaderboards. i find that to be pretty stupid personally. ymmv

[FrostKing]

That’s far from given my fellow Slavic brother. The French have good chances too.
Let's enjoy Barasch

Then "Hunter stew"

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Holy shit, I actually looked up the conversion rate of PK's in Qatar and it's down to 58% in this World Cup :wow

From an article posted 4 days ago:




https://bolavip.com/en/qatar2022/Qatar-2022-What-percentage-of-penalty-kicks-are-scored-20221211-0035.html



Again, it's definitely tougher than it looks. Completely packed stadium, with your country on your back, elimination game. Percentages are bound to go down compared to your average league game.


https://goalkeeper.com/news-and-media/exclusives/post/why-have-we-seen-so-many-penalty-saves-at-the-world-cup

[hater]

:lmao french team have MERS????

CAMEL FUCKERS :lmao

[lefty]

:lmao french team have MERS????

CAMEL FUCKERS :lmao
Non issue tbh

[dunkman]

I think only “designated” penalty kicker achieves 80% over time, someone like Ronaldo even 90%. But when it goes down to series of PK’s that’s much less and it hugely depends on the goal keeper too. My impression is technically superior team always win the penalty kick series.

Technical team is supposed to send a spy to trainings, and have checked where every players tends to kick the penalties, with the information available for the goal keeper.

[Brazil]

:lol everybody on the team is sick… if Argentina lose dat shit :lmao

[lefty]

:lol everybody on the team is sick… if Argentina lose dat shit :lmao
There goes that man again

:lol pre-emptive excuses just in case

[lefty]

In other news, Mihajlovic passed away

Some ass clowns ob Twitter calling him a great man :lol

[Ariel]

:lol everybody on the team is sick… if Argentina lose dat shit :lmao
I read a third player (substitute Kingsley Coman) caught it, but all three cases so far are mild and expected to recover in time. Unless the truth is radically different, France should not have any problems whatsoever.

[Ariel]

Honestly, all I'm worried about is containing Mbappé & Griezmann... Antoine is the closest to Messi in terms of his cerebral play and influence on his team. Argentina has conceded a HUGE amount of goals, relative to their rivals' opportunities. If that's the case against France we're toast because, although they may not dazzle you when you watch them play (even looking lackluster at times), they stab you at the first opportunity, and kill you off with their blazing speed and surgical precision when you're forced to give them space to operate. We can't afford to make any mistakes if we're to win.

[ElNono]

:lol everybody on the team is sick… if Argentina lose dat shit :lmao

mild shit... stop the excuses, tbh

[hater]

2022 World Cup Champs: Camels

[Ariel]

I doubt we'll have the privilege of watching Mbappé drift around the field, like it happened to Ronaldo (THE Ronaldo... the ONE and ONLY) due to some unspecified health condition, in the final game in France '98, that greatly helped the hosts lift the trophy.

[hater]

good luck to all ma nigas.

hopefully we see something close to this:

xNWL3M2fDRU

[DeadlyDynasty]

I hope Argentina gets an early lead so it’s interesting.

[hater]

I hope Argentina gets an early lead so it’s interesting.

The whole game will be very interesting.

Both teams are good and dangerous. :tu

[Amuseddaysleeper]

There goes that man again

:lol pre-emptive excuses just in case

Lefty, honest prediction? I fee weirdly good about this match but if France score first it could get ugly

[pgardn]

Lefty, honest prediction? I fee weirdly good about this match but if France score first it could get ugly

Total neutral here maybe I lean a bit more towards Europe than others just because the PL and its fat TV contract in the US.

But Im hoping for Argentina.
All in.
And I got club players on both teams.
Also I have no idea who will win.

I think France with all its injuries has done a fantastic job at bringing in fresh faces who can do the job
And the older players have meshed well with the newer faces.

[lefty]

Lefty, honest prediction? I fee weirdly good about this match but if France score first it could get ugly

France as rhey are rhe most complete team and have experience

But Messi has that fire in him, in this WC, he knows it’s probably his last chance to win it, he’s gonna have a great final.

Argentina is playing well as a team, it’s gonna be interesting to see if their fullbacks will make runs or stay back, they could take risks offensively and they must, but that will expose them to Mbappe’s turbo counter attacks

[horseshue]

https://i.ibb.co/7RLH4CV/ref.webp

Polish referee Marciniak might do the Finale


For the record Polska faced both finalist

Polska also represented in final. :bobo

[Brazil]

mild shit... stop the excuses, tbh

:lol at one point you have to confess that France is totally depleted… even mild shit, one cannot afford not everybody at 100%. We are playing with a mix team, half of that team is made of substitutes. We are not playing against Morocco anymore lol

[dunkman]

France was lucky Ronaldo Nazario wasn’t feeling well for the 98’ finals. At the time he was the Worlds best player with quite some difference.

[rascal]

Argentina has been lucky the entire tournament. Easy group then easy side of the bracket.

Australia and a draw shootout with the Dutch and Croatia is an easy path to the fianls. You take that any day coming into the tournament.

[hater]

Guardiol isnonemof the best players in this tournament

Definitely makes 1st team allstar

[dunkman]

Argentina has been lucky the entire tournament. Easy group then easy side of the bracket.

Australia and a draw shootout with the Dutch and Croatia is an easy path to the fianls. You take that any day coming into the tournament.

Netherlands in an elimination game isn’t something I would call lucky bracket. And Croatia didn’t lose a game till the semi-finals. Also, Brazil was supposed to pass there. Croatia was the finalist in 18’, probably not so easy game.

Neither think France made it to finals by pure luck, they are certainly good plus have the best Worlds player at this moment.

[Ariel]

Argentina has been lucky the entire tournament. Easy group then easy side of the bracket.

Australia and a draw shootout with the Dutch and Croatia is an easy path to the fianls. You take that any day coming into the tournament.
Bias and ignorance are not a good combination.
In the first game against the Saudis, we played bad and STILL shouldn't have lost. It'd take 100 tries at the same chances they had for the Saudis to score twice like they did in that game. Both other group opponents we beat soundly.
Australia wasn't a particularly strong opponent, but France faced Poland, Brazil met South Korea, England faced Senegal, Portugal faced Switzerland... it's par for the course.
The Dutch in the quarterfinals were neither the strongest nor the weakest opponent, but we were UNLUCKY against them and not the other way around. That game should have NEVER reached the penalties, if you happened to watch it. Played better, the Dutch miraculously tied past the ridiculous 10th minute of stoppage time, and stomped over them in extra time.
In the semis we faced previous WC runner up and returning semifinalist Croatia. We weren't any luckier than Brazil, it's just that we actually beat them soundly when they couldn't. France faced Morocco. I'd say it's about even.
So all in all, we didn't have a significantly more favorable draw than just about any team, we just happened to do what we were supposed to where others didn't. Not our fault.

[Ariel]

:lol at one point you have to confess that France is totally depleted… even mild shit, one cannot afford not everybody at 100%. We are playing with a mix team, half of that team is made of substitutes. We are not playing against Morocco anymore lol
France still has their 2 best players at full strength, much better than, for instance, Argentina had in 1990 when Maradona was at 30% and Caniggia was suspended for the finals, along with a depleted and worn out team. Or Brazil did in '98 when their best player was sleepwalking through the court for the entire match because he was having seizures hours before the match. Don't remember that stopping the French from celebrating their victory.
Benzema is out by choice, your problem. Only Pogba and Kante are real misses, and no team is ever 100%. And now we're supposed to feel simpathy for a couple of players sneezing a few times a week before the match? :lol nah. You're in better shape than Argentina was in either final we lost to Germany. You can win or you can lose, and nothing is set in stone. Man up.

[Ariel]

This is a possible France team for the final:
Lloris; Koundé, Varane, Upamecano / Konaté, Theo Hernández; Tchouaméni, Fofana; Dembélé, Griezmann, Mbappé; y Giroud.
Other than Benzema (who is in France's list of players and supposedly physically, so if he doesn't play it's by choice), I don't think that's far off from their best team. Even the replacements of the players out have done a fantastic job (like Tchouameni and Giroud), that's a super talented lineup, so I'm not buying into the whole "France is depleted" argument.

[GAustex]

N Africans cry a lot

[dunkman]

Croatia vs Morocco 2:1

Croatia ends in third place. Morocco forth.

[lefty]

N Africans cry a lot

:lol you’re easily triggered

[dunkman]

This is a possible France team for the final:
Lloris; Koundé, Varane, Upamecano / Konaté, Theo Hernández; Tchouaméni, Fofana; Dembélé, Griezmann, Mbappé; y Giroud.
Other than Benzema (who is in France's list of players and supposedly physically, so if he doesn't play it's by choice), I don't think that's far off from their best team. Even the replacements of the players out have done a fantastic job (like Tchouameni and Giroud), that's a super talented lineup, so I'm not buying into the whole "France is depleted" argument.

The final still has to be played tomorrow. It’s football, nobody knows the outcome. Then people may talk this or that. Some luck is definitely necessary to win it all, since no team is completely dominant.

And in the end there are always some problems with the roster, for every team.

[ElNono]

:lol at one point you have to confess that France is totally depleted… even mild shit, one cannot afford not everybody at 100%. We are playing with a mix team, half of that team is made of substitutes. We are not playing against Morocco anymore lol

We're not 100% either, no team at this stage is, tbh. We also had to send home 3 players before the world cup started. You don't make the final if you don't have a solid team.

[dunkman]

The game has definitely advanced in Africa. Some teams were near semifinals in the past, but this time Morocco deservedly made it to the semifinals.

[FrostKing]

:lol at one point you have to confess that France is totally depleted… even mild shit, one cannot afford not everybody at 100%. We are playing with a mix team, half of that team is made of substitutes. We are not playing against Morocco anymore lol
I'm buying. I think France is in trouble.

[GAustex]

:lol you’re easily triggered
I would say observant
And truthful

[Bynumite]

Imagine losing to Morocco :lol

Portugal sacked Fernando Santos, about damn time. Four years too late if you ask me, it should have happened after WC 2018, when Portugal lost to Uruguay in round of 16.

Anyway, the team is too young and dynamic to be playing such an antiquated brand of football. Time for a new school manager.

[dunkman]

Apparently Deschamps can’t stand Benzema and that’s the reason sent him out of the team convocation. Benzema is ready to play actually. Ballon D’Or, incredible.

https://youtu.be/MShJSSuKLWU

[dunkman]

I remember Cruyff couldn’t play in 78’ because his family got kidnapped in Barcelona shortly before the Mundial and was unable to concentrate. Big loss for Netherlands back then, that made it to the finals.

[ElNono]

No European team in the final, tbh, as expected…

[TDMVPDPOY]

The game has definitely advanced in Africa. Some teams were near semifinals in the past, but this time Morocco deservedly made it to the semifinals.

their physical play is whats costing them games...these european south american cucks all fall on any form of contact to bait the refs...

the asian teams smaller in size, have to work 2-3x harder but they all have a ceiling anyway wont get far...

[dunkman]

their physical play is whats costing them games...these european south american cucks all fall on any form of contact to bait the refs...

the asian teams smaller in size, have to work 2-3x harder but they all have a ceiling anyway wont get far...

Decent showing, one team in finals - still alive, another to quarter-finals, two more almost made it out of group phase. Only 4 teams. Several European teams didn’t even win a game.

[FrostKing]

Decent showing, one team in finals - still alive, another to quarter-finals, two more almost made it out of group phase. Only 4 teams. Several European teams didn’t even win a game.
I guess. Senegal made the KOs and got hammered

Morocco is born, raised and trained in Europe.

Is African footy better off today than 2010? Eh.

[lefty]

No European team in the final, tbh, as expected…
Factos

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/cfRkHzhM4vE

To conclude from my favorite WC. Is the 2006 Finale.

[FrostKing]

Factos
Born
Raised
Trained

Because momma changed the diaper? These people are European. Give us credit for grooming men.

[dunkman]

I guess. Senegal made the KOs and got hammered

Morocco is born, raised and trained in Europe.

Is African footy better off today than 2010? Eh.

Mane was missing in Senegal, I think they definitely improved. Morocco is a good team, sent Belgium, Spain and Portugal packing, ended first in group, didn’t lose a game till the semi-finals.

[FrostKing]

Can Argentina topple the European Crown?

[Brazil]

France still has their 2 best players at full strength, much better than, for instance, Argentina had in 1990 when Maradona was at 30% and Caniggia was suspended for the finals, along with a depleted and worn out team. Or Brazil did in '98 when their best player was sleepwalking through the court for the entire match because he was having seizures hours before the match. Don't remember that stopping the French from celebrating their victory.
Benzema is out by choice, your problem. Only Pogba and Kante are real misses, and no team is ever 100%. And now we're supposed to feel simpathy for a couple of players sneezing a few times a week before the match? :lol nah. You're in better shape than Argentina was in either final we lost to Germany. You can win or you can lose, and nothing is set in stone. Man up.

:lol you are spending your time at explaining to people they know shit about your team then you try to convince me you know shit about mine.. :lol we are just missing Kante and Pogba. Benzema out by choice ? :lol dude stick to what you know, find a list of who’s missing then come back.

[Brazil]

Apparently Deschamps can’t stand Benzema and that’s the reason sent him out of the team convocation. Benzema is ready to play actually. Ballon D’Or, incredible.

https://youtu.be/MShJSSuKLWU

:lol incredible, dude did not play in 2 months.. to get him into the mix you need to change all the system. You don’t do that 48h before a final… casual fans :lol

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/z4qCngm/Screenshot-20221218-011355-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/d6M9cy4/Screenshot-20221218-012022-Chrome.jpg

[Brazil]

And now Giroud is on the bench… :lol not depleted :cry no team is 100% :cry

Argentina better win dat shit, it’s 1 in a million opportunity :lol

[Brazil]

Even in Brazil commentators are speaking of clima de ja ganhou for Argentina :lol

[FrostKing]

And now Giroud is on the bench… :lol not depleted :cry no team is 100% :cry

Argentina better win dat shit, it’s 1 in a million opportunity :lol
Europe never surrendered

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/dZDj2CnG5dE

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/MoHnffhBwqs

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/ubRBLAHjkTo

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/9cQlVww0zKo

[resistanze]

Prediction as I won't be able to watch game...2-1 Argentina

[lefty]

Born
Raised
Trained

Because momma changed the diaper? These people are European. Give us credit for grooming men.
You mad bro?
:lol triggered

[lefty]

Prediction as I won't be able to watch game...2-1 Argentina

Come on, find a way!

[lefty]

And now Giroud is on the bench… :lol not depleted :cry no team is 100% :cry

Argentina better win dat shit, it’s 1 in a million opportunity :lol
Giroud is starting

[resistanze]

Come on, find a way!

Gonna be on a fucking plane back to Canada, booked it months ago :lol

[dunkman]

I think whoever opens the score will win the game. Set pieces may be crucial. Perhaps 0:0 first half, from there will be some tactical adjustments that will facilitate the scoring.

[dunkman]

Di María starting for Argentina, in a classic 4:4:2. France fielding 4 forwards, that may backfire.

[lefty]

Gonna be on a fucking plane back to Canada, booked it months ago :lol

Bruh the final date was set a long time ago :lol

Where did you go?

[GAustex]

Di Maria the shameless flopper

[Splits]

lmao if Missy blows this. a gift on a platter, play nobody all tourney and then a decimated Les Bleus in the penaldo, I mean finaldo

[pgardn]

:lol you are spending your time at explaining to people they know shit about your team then you try to convince me you know shit about mine.. :lol we are just missing Kante and Pogba. Benzema out by choice ? :lol dude stick to what you know, find a list of who’s missing then come back.

Definitely not the same team as the past WC winners. The subs have meshed admirably with the “known” quality.
It gives the world pause to think the depth is tremendous.

[pgardn]

:lol you are spending your time at explaining to people they know shit about your team then you try to convince me you know shit about mine.. :lol we are just missing Kante and Pogba. Benzema out by choice ? :lol dude stick to what you know, find a list of who’s missing then come back.

Definitely not the same team as the past WC winners. The subs have meshed admirably with the “known” quality.
It gives the world pause to think the depth is tremendous.

[Splits]

jesus. 5'7" vs. 6'2", clean header, yet Missy gets the call. Fix is in

[pgardn]

Argentina playing with their hair on fire the first 10 minutes

[pgardn]

jesus. 5'7" vs. 6'2", clean header, yet Missy gets the call. Fix is in

Used him as a step ladder.

[lefty]

Argentina playing with their hair on fire the first 10 minutes
This ils lFrance England all over again

[lefty]

Grroud or Vaeane score here

[lefty]

Almost

[lefty]

Will missi miss the pen?

[RD2191]

This is such a gay "sport"... :lol

[lefty]

Nice technique

[pgardn]

This ils lFrance England all over again

Even the penalty… wow

[resistanze]

Pessi!! Haven't taken off yet :lol

[lefty]

This is such a gay "sport"... :lol

Iames Harden is that you?

[dunkman]

Argentina vs France 1:0

Messi (P) 23’

[RD2191]

Iames Harden is that you?
:lol

[Splits]

that was a bullshit penaldo call for a WC final. fix is obviously in

[lefty]

Romero is trying to get a yellow card today

[Splits]

France getting penalized because they aren't midgets and are actual athletes

[dunkman]

6 goals for Messi in the Mundial, so far. Though several penalties.

[lefty]

McAllister and Di Maria keeping France in the game :lol

[lefty20]

lfg that was exquisite passing

[lefty]

Di Maria !!!

[RD2191]

:pctoss

[GAustex]

Wow that was fun

[Darth_Pelican]

:lmao France

[RD2191]

Canelo VS Messi 1 on 1 :wakeup

[dunkman]

Argentina vs France 2:0, so far

Di María 36’

[pgardn]

Messi’s passing has been extraordinary.

[lefty]

Argentina had a 2-0 lead on 86 before Germany eventually tied it

Argentina eventually went on to win 3-2

It’s not over yet, Argentina must jeep it up and not park the bus

[lefty]

Quck subs

So Mbappe will shift to the middle

[GAustex]

Di Maria flop

[lefty]

Has anyone checked on DAF86 yet?

[dunkman]

Di Maria flop

This is football, for box check Bronner vs Chino Maidana.

[pgardn]

France resorts to rugby to get out of half.

[pgardn]

Argentina is so aggressive and sharp.

France cannot thug this out. I understand the idea to get out of the half.
They need to match Argentina’s game.
One score from France early 2nd half and game on.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Argentina all over them but very anxious for this next 45

[dunkman]

Terrible defensive play by Dembélé in the penalty, no way a back gets past like that and challenges without even watching where the ball is.

[dunkman]

Enzo Fernández with a yellow, wondering if will get substituted. Another yellow will leave Argentina with 10.

[GAustex]

A breath of a light summer breeze will put Di Maria on the ground

[resistanze]

Pilots mch be watching the game tbh, flight so delayed

[pgardn]

Messi has been absolutely outstanding imo.
And he is actually playing some defense as well.
His belief in Alvarez is very important in opening up the game.
DeMaria was also very good way out wide.

[pgardn]

A breath of a light summer breeze will put Di Maria on the ground

He is difficult to corral so he plays that game. It’s essential to get a body on him as he is super quick in small areas. This game Anyways.

[lefty]

Pilots mch be watching the game tbh, flight so delayed

My nikkas

[pgardn]

They are adding tons of time this WC

Laying around on the ground is definitely added on.

[pgardn]

It looks like Argentina is just trying to make sure this game is cut into non flowing segments.

[pgardn]

I gotta hope France scores. I want good football.

[lefty]

Isn’t Acuma injured?

[lefty]

DAF86 is running out of clean pants :lol

[lefty]

Ooooh shit

[pgardn]

Whoa….

With time added could be fun.

[GAustex]

So sad a big contest is settled by falling down

[lefty]

France has started the come back

They will win 3-2 imo

[dunkman]

Argentina vs France 2:1, 10 minutes and injury time to go

MBappé (P) 80’

[lefty20]

Argies :lol

[RD2191]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ARGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[pgardn]

Damn.

Goalie almost got that.
Very good instincts

[lefty]

:lmao Messi turnover leads France to tie it

[dunkman]

Wow, Argentina vs France 2:2 . . .

[pgardn]

Holy shit…

Game on!

[pgardn]

:lmao Messi turnover leads France to tie it

Tired man.
He could not shield it.

[resistanze]

About to take off...:lmao

[monosylab1k]

:lmao Argentin:lol

[lefty]

France has started the come back

They will win 3-2 imo

tbh

[lefty]

About to take off...:lmao

Pilots are Argies confirmed

[FrostKing]

Europe never stops

[lefty20]

France prolly gonna win it 3-2 in regulation, Argies are gassed.

[pgardn]

This is where Argentina must get tired guys out.
You must be deep. Play on.

[lefty]

I don’t think Argentina can recover from this tbh

[dunkman]

Kylian wants the golden boot and best player award, by whatever means necessary.

[Canyonero]

Props to Deschamps for figuring out the subs on time. That is Scaloni's main weakness.

[RD2191]

gawd damn

[pgardn]

Great call by the ref.
No one ever says this but it should be stated.

[Canyonero]

I don’t think Argentina can recover from this tbh

Agreed tbh. This ain't the Netherlands.

[Brazil]

:lmao the fix

[pgardn]

Interested to see how much time is added.

[Canyonero]

Mbappe with the MJ look. Nigga's gonna murder us :depressed

[dunkman]

Scaloni will bring 3-4 fresh players for supplementary time. France already used 4, Argentina just 1. Argentina will have to dig deep and grind trough this game to win.

[pgardn]

I don’t know the Argentina team.
Do they have subs?
There are some tired sloppy guys out there.

[lefty]

Argies losing their composure

[Canyonero]

De Paul is dead. Has to be subbed ASAP.

[pgardn]

Scaloni will bring 3-4 fresh players for supplementary time. France already used 4, Argentina just 1. Argentina will have to dig deep and grind trough this game to win.

Why wait.
Get them out there now!

[horseshue]

Brain fart by argies, and team africa is back.

[Canyonero]

Why wait.
Get them out there now!

Scaloni's inexperience smh

[lefty]

Argies turnovers smh

[Brazil]

:lmao ref doing all he can for the extra time :lmao that was a pass to the gk:lmao

[dunkman]

Why wait.
Get them out there now!

Should have made the substitutions by half-time. Old school coach.

[lefty20]

Costly mishandle by Messi at the end.

[pgardn]

:lmao ref doing all he can for the extra time :lmao that was a pass to the gk:lmao

Thats exactly what I was trying to figure.
It was a knee? Does that count?

[lefty]

Heavy touch by Messi ooooof that was close

[DeadlyDynasty]

This is legendary. What an amazing match between two countries who actually try to score and not spend 90 minutes parking the bus. Well done, regardless of outcome:tu

[pgardn]

Messi is dangerous in front of goal but he is fried tired.
If this break gives him legs he is in great shape for a 35/ yo.
I don’t think it does for anything like his first half which was tremendous.

[lefty]

:lol

https://twitter.com/chrinkster/status/1604518691164430336

[Splits]

God that 1timer strike by Mbappe was for the ages. No matter the outcome.

[lefty]

Messi looks tired as well, his heavy touch on that last play in regulation was very uncharacteristic

[pgardn]

Thats exactly what I was trying to figure.
It was a knee? Does that count?

Ruling fellas?

I don’t know?

[Splits]

Glad I'm not Mexican or French

[lefty]

lol scottish dude thinks he is good

[DeadlyDynasty]

God that 1timer strike by Mbappe was for the ages. No matter the outcome.
Jesus Christ himself wouldn’t have stopped that laser

[lefty]

wtf messi

montiel was open

[lefty]

France is younger and has more african genes

[Splits]

lmao Missy looks like he's 80 years old out there now

[FrostKing]

France is younger and has more african genes
Old France vs Nazi tactics

Its Europe. It always is.

[Brazil]

Dirty mfucker