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djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:30 PM
Per NYT
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:31 PM
Bitch Ass TSA
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:32 PM
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:lmao
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:32 PM
Anybody seen Susan Rice??
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:33 PM
And to Qwis you can suck a big ass 14 inch Black cock
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:34 PM
And hey Darrin. Fuck you Archie Bunker.
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:35 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 04:38 PM
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TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) you better have my money bitch
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spurraider21
03-30-2023, 04:39 PM
somebody needs to edit this with trump/melania's faces tbh :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3TqPChILQ
ChumpDumper
03-30-2023, 04:49 PM
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Still have to see the charges.
spurraider21
03-30-2023, 04:50 PM
live feed of alan dershowitz walking into mar-a-lago
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EnviousLazyBoubou-size_restricted.gif
spurraider21
03-30-2023, 04:58 PM
ron desantis rn
https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/04/disastergirl_zoeroth_111120youtube.jpg?w=1280
ChumpDumper
03-30-2023, 05:00 PM
ron desantis rn
I think the nomination is a complete lock for Trump now.
ChumpDumper
03-30-2023, 05:21 PM
Well, what will Trump go for in his mugshot -- Tom DeLay or Nick Nolte?
Spurs Homer
03-30-2023, 05:26 PM
First Domino falls…
this is the appetizer
TSA - pay the fuckin man you pussy!
Leetonidas
03-30-2023, 05:43 PM
:lmao qhris shitting himself right now
Bitch Ass TSA
Only bitch ass here is your broke welshing ass.
CosmicCowboy
03-30-2023, 05:55 PM
I think the nomination is a complete lock for Trump now.
Sadly I agree.
Ef-man
03-30-2023, 05:57 PM
First Domino falls…
this is the appetizer
TSA - pay the fuckin man you pussy!
He is going to welsh, everyone knows it.
Spurs Homer
03-30-2023, 06:01 PM
Only bitch ass here is your broke welshing ass.
stop sending all your money to “stop the steal” traitors
and pay the man you fucking broke ass pussy!
stop sending all your money to “stop the steal” traitors
and pay the man you fucking broke ass pussy!
Pay him for what?
He is going to welsh, everyone knows it.
Welsh on what bet?
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 06:13 PM
Only bitch ass here is your broke welshing ass.
Guess the GJ wasn’t done :lmao
Ef-man
03-30-2023, 06:23 PM
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/b114dbb4-a68c-4fba-bc87-7bca5d122986
TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) you better have my money bitch
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Welsh on what bet?
Don’t come begging to be spoon fed on justice delayed..
CosmicCowboy
03-30-2023, 06:25 PM
Can someone please post the original "bet"?
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 06:32 PM
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https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/b114dbb4-a68c-4fba-bc87-7bca5d122986
TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) you better have my money bitch
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Money for what?
Warlord23
03-30-2023, 06:34 PM
Well. Trump finally won a popular vote. Too bad it's a grand jury ...
ChumpDumper
03-30-2023, 06:36 PM
Sadly I agree.Eh, more than likely to lose the general again.
Can someone please post the original "bet"?
It’s in the 2000+ page failure of a thread started and abandoned by djohn. We bet 2 grand on Mueller putting Trump or family in prison. Mueller finished his investigation. No Trumps went to jail and djohn went into hiding from the political forum for months and months.
Spurs Homer
03-30-2023, 06:38 PM
It’s in the 2000+ page failure of a thread started and abandoned by djohn. We bet 2 grand on Mueller putting Trump or family in prison. Mueller finished his investigation. No Trumps went to jail and djohn went into hiding from the political forum for months and months.
stop running and answer my questions bitch
broke pussy welcher
stop running and answer my questions bitch
broke pussy welcher
I don’t do false dilemmas faggot.
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 06:48 PM
1641581182562213889
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
scott
03-30-2023, 07:05 PM
“Well I wasn’t going to vote for him before, but now that he is a criminal I guess I have to” - delusional republicans, everywhere
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 07:05 PM
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ducks
03-30-2023, 07:27 PM
1641581182562213889
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
A week ago a video circulated of a lunatic harassing a family on a New York subway. He hurled racial slurs (the family was white) and threatened them. Alvin Bragg thinks that man should walk free and Donald Trump should go to jail for a fake misdemeanor. It’s despicable
Ef-man
03-30-2023, 07:28 PM
I wonder if Melania already has a replacement man ready to start working as soon as Yam Tits is arraigned?
https://fotografias.antena3.com/clipping/cmsimages01/2019/08/27/7574F3D9-80A1-4D21-A156-68176C4DEF84/58.jpg
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 07:30 PM
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RandomGuy
03-30-2023, 07:30 PM
Money for what?
https://c.tenor.com/o0S5UqXS_Y8AAAAC/hillary-clinton-laughing.gif
RandomGuy
03-30-2023, 07:30 PM
J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
A week ago a video circulated of a lunatic harassing a family on a New York subway. He hurled racial slurs (the family was white) and threatened them. Alvin Bragg thinks that man should walk free and Donald Trump should go to jail for a fake misdemeanor. It’s despicable
https://c.tenor.com/o0S5UqXS_Y8AAAAC/hillary-clinton-laughing.gif
RandomGuy
03-30-2023, 07:31 PM
I don’t do false dilemmas faggot.
https://c.tenor.com/o0S5UqXS_Y8AAAAC/hillary-clinton-laughing.gif
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 07:33 PM
https://c.tenor.com/o0S5UqXS_Y8AAAAC/hillary-clinton-laughing.gif
:lmao
Spurs Homer
03-30-2023, 07:34 PM
:lmao:rollin
hater
03-30-2023, 07:36 PM
Good shit :tu
Heating up ma popcorn now :tu
:lol
Adam Lambert
03-30-2023, 07:55 PM
J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
A week ago a video circulated of a lunatic harassing a family on a New York subway. He hurled racial slurs (the family was white) and threatened them. Alvin Bragg thinks that man should walk free and Donald Trump should go to jail for a fake misdemeanor. It’s despicable
LOOK OVER HERE AT THIS OTHER THING!!
Blake
03-30-2023, 08:23 PM
J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
A week ago a video circulated of a lunatic harassing a family on a New York subway. He hurled racial slurs (the family was white) and threatened them. Alvin Bragg thinks that man should walk free and Donald Trump should go to jail for a fake misdemeanor. It’s despicable
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spurraider21
03-30-2023, 08:24 PM
LOOK OVER HERE AT THIS OTHER THING!!
Specifically at a black man!
Joseph Kony
03-30-2023, 08:38 PM
https://i.ibb.co/zhjmBh2/image000000.jpg
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 09:02 PM
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:lmao holy shit TSA stays taking L’s
hater
03-30-2023, 09:16 PM
:lmao I love that white ppl.are acting the victims now :lmao
Eat shit pussies :lol
U had your time
Now its time for your white asses to get hammered :lmao
Ce la vi
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 09:40 PM
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Ef-man
03-30-2023, 09:48 PM
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I wonder what motivated Melania trump to testify?
https://fotografias.antena3.com/clipping/cmsimages01/2019/08/27/7574F3D9-80A1-4D21-A156-68176C4DEF84/58.jpg
LkrFan
03-30-2023, 11:13 PM
Trump indicted, not Hillary.
:lol
djohn2oo8
03-30-2023, 11:23 PM
Trump indicted, not Hillary.
:lol
:lmao
velik_m
03-30-2023, 11:40 PM
Well, what will Trump go for in his mugshot -- Tom DeLay or Nick Nolte?
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ElNono
03-30-2023, 11:59 PM
This is probably the weakest case against him as well, IMO.
DarrinS
03-31-2023, 01:13 AM
This is probably the weakest case against him as well, IMO.
Definitely. :lol
ElNono
03-31-2023, 01:27 AM
Definitely. :lol
I mean, that's the weakest case doesn't mean there's no case. We'll see what the grand jury thought here.
But if he got nailed for this, then one would suspect that the Georgia case and the docs case are slam dunks.
Winehole23
03-31-2023, 01:45 AM
Silly as it sounds to say, they may have trouble proving corrupt intent, but who knows?
Trump could lose.
Splits
03-31-2023, 04:53 AM
I mean, that's the weakest case doesn't mean there's no case. We'll see what the grand jury thought here.
But if he got nailed for this, then one would suspect that the Georgia case and the docs case are slam dunks.
We don't know the strength of the case until the indictment is unsealed. It might be the least consequential. I'd argue that if it is tied to campaign finance fraud that might also not be the case. People tend to forget he won in 2016 by a total of 80k votes in 3 states. Quite possible that if news got out 2 weeks ahead of the vote of him fucking a pornstar while his wife is nursing their newborn, it could have changed the outcome.
He basically cheated to win. '17 Astros style
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 06:57 AM
Silly as it sounds to say, they may have trouble proving corrupt intent, but who knows?
Trump could lose.
If it’s 34 counts like they say, they have strong evidence.
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 08:02 AM
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djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 09:14 AM
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djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 10:28 AM
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:lmao
Leetonidas
03-31-2023, 10:31 AM
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:lmao
What's up with their obsession over America being destroyed? The party always crying about not living in fear is always terrified by everything :lol
daboom1
03-31-2023, 11:24 AM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 11:28 AM
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ChumpDumper
03-31-2023, 11:28 AM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
:lmao you were just laughing that it wasn't going to happen
What happened, Qhris?
daboom1
03-31-2023, 11:31 AM
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1641654407896113158?t
Spurs Homer
03-31-2023, 11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1641654407896113158?t
yup
he sure is a corrupt piece of shit criminal and a confirmed coup plotting traitor!
daboom1
03-31-2023, 11:38 AM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1641826554836660224?t
ChumpDumper
03-31-2023, 11:40 AM
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1641654407896113158?t
You backed a loser, Qhris.
When will you accept this?
Adam Lambert
03-31-2023, 11:45 AM
Yeah judging by Trump's recent social media activity he's definitely giggling. :lmao
Fucking meltdown.
baseline bum
03-31-2023, 11:47 AM
Yeah judging by Trump's recent social media activity he's definitely giggling. :lmao
Fucking meltdown.
I'd be laughing. He's above the law. The chance of any jury convicting him on anything is so vanishingly small.
MultiTroll
03-31-2023, 11:49 AM
So what's the order of next events?
He arrives dog n pony show style, gets booked, gets released on own recognizance bail?
ChumpDumper
03-31-2023, 11:51 AM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1641826554836660224?tGet Pecker and Trump on the stand under oath.
What could Trump be afraid of?
Adam Lambert
03-31-2023, 11:56 AM
I'd be laughing. He's above the law. The chance of any jury convicting him on anything is so vanishingly small.
No doubt but unless he and Don Jr. are rage-cosplaying (certainly possible) they're not behaving like people who aren't worried about the indictments.
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 11:59 AM
I'd be laughing. He's above the law. The chance of any jury convicting him on anything is so vanishingly small.
Folks said he would never be indicted either. This isn’t about just Stormy Daniels. Not in the slightest.
baseline bum
03-31-2023, 12:00 PM
Folks said he would never be indicted either. This isn’t about just Stormy Daniels. Not in the slightest.
Do you actually think even in NYC they can get a jury of 12 and not one of them will be a Karrin who thinks anything Trump does is fine?
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 12:05 PM
Do you actually think even in NYC they can get a jury of 12 and not one of them will be a Karrin who thinks anything Trump does is fine?
If the indictment is 30 plus counts like is being reported, I do see him being convicted on at least some counts.
baseline bum
03-31-2023, 12:14 PM
If the indictment is 30 plus counts like is being reported, I do see him being convicted on at least some counts.
What happens when Trump mentions jury nullification the first time? Maybe the judge jails him for a few days for contempt of court but then Fox News, Clear Channel, and Sinclair will beat the drum for it nonstop and there is no way you're not getting at least one Karrin who will defend anything that fat fuck does on any jury of 12 who hears that. It's probably why charges haven't been filed against him in Georgia, because he is unconvictable.
Blake
03-31-2023, 12:27 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
Why would Trump laugh? Is this part of his master 4D plan?
Adam Lambert
03-31-2023, 01:08 PM
Why would Trump laugh? Is this part of his master 4D plan?
Because JFK Jr. is just about to make a surprise undead appearance to drain the swamp and reinstall DT as President, this time for life.
Tick tock motherfuckers.
Spurs Homer
03-31-2023, 01:56 PM
What happens when Trump mentions jury nullification the first time? Maybe the judge jails him for a few days for contempt of court but then Fox News, Clear Channel, and Sinclair will beat the drum for it nonstop and there is no way you're not getting at least one Karrin who will defend anything that fat fuck does on any jury of 12 who hears that. It's probably why charges haven't been filed against him in Georgia, because he is unconvictable.
Maybe 3rd time is the charm?
Impeachment 1- OVERWHELMING evidence trump guilty- but treasonous senators acquit
Impeachment 2- OVERWHELMING evidence trump guilty and a traitor plotting criminal- but treasonous and COMPLICIT GOP acquits him- even though their leader - (turtle) - gives a speech about how guilty trump is and how it is the DOJ’s responsibility to prosecute the traitor
Indictment - 1 (1 of several indictments forthcoming) - a jury of regular citizens - will weigh EVIDENCE- some will be trumpers some will be never-trumpers
not sure if regular citizens and trumpers are LESS TREASONOUS than GOP SENATORS-
but id be willing to give CITIZENS WHO WEIGH ALL THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE
the benefit of the doubt that they will actually DO THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY and convict the piece of shit after weighing the OVERWHELMING evidence against the criminal defendant.
Leetonidas
03-31-2023, 02:53 PM
Because JFK Jr. is just about to make a surprise undead appearance to drain the swamp and reinstall DT as President, this time for life.
Tick tock motherfuckers.
:lol they actually believed that too
boutons_deux
03-31-2023, 02:58 PM
I think the nomination is a complete lock for Trump now.
Or recent poll showed that trash would lose votess if he were indicted.
If he is indicted two more times for MaL, obstruction and for banking and insurance fraud,
that would probably cost him more votes.
I'm pretty sure that a second term belongs to Biden if he wants it
boutons_deux
03-31-2023, 03:02 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Falsifying around the whore fucking payoff or also including his bank and insurance fraud?
boutons_deux
03-31-2023, 03:05 PM
“Well I wasn’t going to vote for him before, but now that he is a criminal I guess I have to” - delusional republicans, everywhere
Every Republican and right-wing hate media prick is defending Trash not because they love the guy with the Republicans are scared shitless of losing trash's base
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 03:06 PM
Falsifying around the whore fucking payoff or also including his bank and insurance fraud?
Multiple payoffs and possible conspiracy or racketeering charges
leemajors
03-31-2023, 03:06 PM
What's up with their obsession over America being destroyed? The party always crying about not living in fear is always terrified by everything :lol
Look over here while we destroy the country~!
djohn2oo8
03-31-2023, 03:06 PM
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put his ass in a holding cell lol
boutons_deux
03-31-2023, 03:06 PM
Lady g came on TV with red eyes and was almost crying
boutons_deux
03-31-2023, 10:13 PM
no handcuffs
no mugshot
fingerprinted?
Trash is flight risk, dump the Trash in solitary.
Monostradamus
04-01-2023, 09:34 AM
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1641654407896113158?t
:tu
Blake
04-01-2023, 10:27 AM
no handcuffs
no mugshot
fingerprinted?
Trash is flight risk, dump the Trash in solitary.
"It's safe to say it will be a complete circus, and that’s an understatement," said Matt Dallek, a presidential historian. "I doubt they will cuff him. But my understanding is he will need to be fingerprinted and take a mug shot."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/30/what-happens-after-trump-indictment/11573340002/
I don't see a him being a flight risk. Almost seems like he's reveling in the attention.
benefactor
04-01-2023, 12:04 PM
Yeah he's going make this a spectacle. I still don't think he thinks he will be found guilty of anything.
MultiTroll
04-01-2023, 02:32 PM
Schemey degraded unscrupulous Alan Dershowitz thinks Trumps liarwyers can get the site moved away from SDNY area where Rump is clearly exposed and hated.
To a north NY area or similar with enough Trumptards on a jury to throw it.
Spurs Homer
04-01-2023, 05:32 PM
Schemey degraded unscrupulous Alan Dershowitz thinks Trumps liarwyers can get the site moved away from SDNY area where Rump is clearly exposed and hated.
To a north NY area or similar with enough Trumptards on a jury to throw it.
pretty sure the judge will deny the motion-
trump attorneys: “your honor, trump cannot get a fair trial because new yorkers are too familiar with this case”
judge: “your client was the potus and wont stfu 24/7 - so wherever we move it to- he will still be the ex-potus and he still wont stfu - so - request denied”
hater
04-01-2023, 08:28 PM
Yeah he's going make this a spectacle. I still don't think he thinks he will be found guilty of anything.
He womt ma negro
This is just a clown show
baseline bum
04-01-2023, 08:33 PM
Yeah he's going make this a spectacle. I still don't think he thinks he will be found guilty of anything.
Yeah he's impossible to convict. He's so good at whining and playing victim that he'll get at least one juror even in NYC who will ignore evidence and refuse to convict. I agree with jury nullification and the ability for a jury to be able to tell prosecutors to fuck off for trying to enforce bad laws but this is one of the prices you gotta pay for that right.
pgardn
04-01-2023, 08:40 PM
no handcuffs
no mugshot
fingerprinted?
Trash is flight risk, dump the Trash in solitary.
Let him take flight and never come back to the US.
That would be fine. And if a particular state took him in, not gonna be Florida.
I think the red team members with the most power would love him gone as well.
Fly away lying piece of shit I say... We deal with you later...
pgardn
04-01-2023, 08:43 PM
Imo the Georgia voting law trial should have come first if we want him convicted and out of the race.
I also dont think its such a bad thing for the blue team if Trump stays in the race.
hater
04-01-2023, 08:44 PM
Imo the Georgia voting law trial should have come first if we want him convicted and out of the race.
I also dont think its such a bad thing for the blue team if Trump stays in the race.
Finally a half decent post from your dumb ass nig
Props
Agree
baseline bum
04-01-2023, 08:53 PM
Finally a half decent post from your dumb ass nig
Props
Agree
Stronger case but way less of a chance of conviction in GA.
pgardn
04-01-2023, 08:54 PM
Finally a half decent post from your dumb ass nig
Props
Agree
Fk you.
I take it all back.
You are a fkn lunatic.
hater
04-01-2023, 08:54 PM
Stronger case but way less of a chance of conviction in GA.
In the end hes an ex president
He wont do any time
He might get stopped from candidacy in 2024 thats all
Anyone who believes enything else is a dumb ass re tard
pgardn
04-01-2023, 08:56 PM
Stronger case but way less of a chance of conviction in GA.
Its a case that is much more serious in nature.
I think more Americans understand this.
The stormy thing is just another asshat business thing rich people are allowed to do for Republican voters.
Spurs Homer
04-01-2023, 09:07 PM
Imo the Georgia voting law trial should have come first if we want him convicted and out of the race.
I also dont think its such a bad thing for the blue team if Trump stays in the race.
indict him on ANY case where the evidence warrants it
it is irrelevant which one goes first, which is more serious or whatever
and all this hand-wringing and doubting and trying to have it a certain way is absolutely pointless
indict his ass EVERY TIME the evidence warrants it in whichever investigation is ready to prosecute
eventually the long arm of the law will get him out of our lives for good
pgardn
04-01-2023, 09:13 PM
indict him on ANY case where the evidence warrants it
it is irrelevant which one goes first, which is more serious or whatever
and all this hand-wringing and doubting and trying to have it a certain way is absolutely pointless
indict his ass EVERY TIME the evidence warrants it in whichever investigation is ready to prosecute
eventually the long arm of the law will get him out of our lives for good
I disagree.
All the dominos fall if the Georgia case rocks his world imo.
Jan 6 gets easier.
They come at him if he takes another breath, new trials are added.
States fight over who gets to keep him in a hole.
Americans are not very bright, we elected this fk stick. They need to be given a more straightforward crime. Fkn with the election.
If there could be some way to bring up his egregious acts on the phone to Ukraine again it would be lovely.
baseline bum
04-01-2023, 09:21 PM
Its a case that is much more serious in nature.
I think more Americans understand this.
The stormy thing is just another asshat business thing rich people are allowed to do for Republican voters.
Doesn't matter, prosecution won't be able to strike every Trumptard from a jury pool in GA. 0.00000000000000% chance of a conviction there.
MultiTroll
04-01-2023, 10:59 PM
Doesn't matter, prosecution won't be able to strike every Trumptard from a jury pool in GA. 0.00000000000000% chance of a conviction there.
Will it have to be 12-0?
baseline bum
04-01-2023, 11:00 PM
Will it have to be 12-0?
It's either 12-0 or mistrial
MultiTroll
04-01-2023, 11:37 PM
It's either 12-0 or mistrial
Wow.
Only 1 Trumptard needed.
EVen beyond that, buy / threaten a juror.
Ya i don't think Dunceold is getting convicted ever. System too corrupt.
Spurs Homer
04-01-2023, 11:59 PM
I disagree.
All the dominos fall if the Georgia case rocks his world imo.
Jan 6 gets easier.
They come at him if he takes another breath, new trials are added.
States fight over who gets to keep him in a hole.
Americans are not very bright, we elected this fk stick. They need to be given a more straightforward crime. Fkn with the election.
If there could be some way to bring up his egregious acts on the phone to Ukraine again it would be lovely.
You are overthinking it
Crimes were committed. Justice is slow as molasses. Trump plays the delay game in every investigation.
Just keep working on the cases, develop all the evidence, get your ducks in a row and when ready-
prosecute him.
Trump committed all these crimes - no one is even disputing that- because no one can actually - with a STRAIGHT FACE-
say that trump is innocent.
He will be prosecuted on ALL HIS Crimes.
Some will lead to convictions. Some might not if prosecutors make a mistake or if trumps attorneys have a good day and a favorable ruling or two
but in the end - he will be convicted on most of his crimes and nothing anyone says or does will stop justice from being served.
The more people try and strategize and overthink what should and should not happen is just a waste of energy IMO and this plays right into the - “going after a former president - you need to not fail..blah blah..it HAS TO be a perfect shot blah blah…this is unprecedented blah blah …bs narrative.”
He is a criminal and should be treated the same as any other criminal and NO - I dont buy that bs they are selling about him being “not just any criminal defendant”
fuck that piece of shit
Spurs Homer
04-02-2023, 12:02 AM
Wow.
Only 1 Trumptard needed.
EVen beyond that, buy / threaten a juror.
Ya i don't think Dunceold is getting convicted ever. System too corrupt.
nah
one prosecution might fail…one trumper might force a mistrial-
so what?
move on
NEXT prosecution
eventually
ONE of his crimes will result in a conviction
he should have NEVER agreed to have russia install him as president- as he could have continued to flaunt the rule of law with impunity until he died a free man
but he fucked up and ran for office
he is fucked
baseline bum
04-02-2023, 12:10 AM
Wow.
Only 1 Trumptard needed.
EVen beyond that, buy / threaten a juror.
Ya i don't think Dunceold is getting convicted ever. System too corrupt.
System would be way more corrupt without jury nullification IMO. It's a check and a balance the people have against bullshit laws.
pgardn
04-02-2023, 10:50 AM
Doesn't matter, prosecution won't be able to strike every Trumptard from a jury pool in GA. 0.00000000000000% chance of a conviction there.
I cant speak to the mind of every individual Trumptard but...
They seem to do much better in groupthink. At least the ones I have met.
On their own they can be led imo.
Spurs Homer
04-02-2023, 11:33 AM
I disagree.
All the dominos fall if the Georgia case rocks his world imo.
Jan 6 gets easier.
They come at him if he takes another breath, new trials are added.
States fight over who gets to keep him in a hole.
Americans are not very bright, we elected this fk stick. They need to be given a more straightforward crime. Fkn with the election.
If there could be some way to bring up his egregious acts on the phone to Ukraine again it would be lovely.
here is another reason why every case is important;
For example- say trump gets convicted for the “smaller” ny case and it is a low level felony (tax evasion, campaign violation, etc) - and trumptards will be howling that it was a “process crime” “political blah blah”
and trump attorneys will argue that trump is a person who has never even legally had a parking ticket blah blah
the court/judge/jury in this case will more than likely opt for a “no prison” sentence, maybe a 2 year probation etc,
then trump gets indicted on other cases- and in each one - when the case is at the end - unless outright acquitted- the prosecution will point to the ny case and make the argument that he is NOW a convicted felon who was given a light sentence and told to obey the law
now with the NEW conviction and the next and the next
each judge/jury will find it harder and harder and harder to NOT have the traitor imprisoned eventually
there are some things you can absolutely guarantee with trump without exception:
1) he will lie 24/7
2) he will commit crimes
3) he will never stop doing #1 and #2 above
pgardn
04-02-2023, 01:22 PM
here is another reason why every case is important;
For example- say trump gets convicted for the “smaller” ny case and it is a low level felony (tax evasion, campaign violation, etc) - and trumptards will be howling that it was a “process crime” “political blah blah”
and trump attorneys will argue that trump is a person who has never even legally had a parking ticket blah blah
the court/judge/jury in this case will more than likely opt for a “no prison” sentence, maybe a 2 year probation etc,
then trump gets indicted on other cases- and in each one - when the case is at the end - unless outright acquitted- the prosecution will point to the ny case and make the argument that he is NOW a convicted felon who was given a light sentence and told to obey the law
now with the NEW conviction and the next and the next
each judge/jury will find it harder and harder and harder to NOT have the traitor imprisoned eventually
there are some things you can absolutely guarantee with trump without exception:
1) he will lie 24/7
2) he will commit crimes
3) he will never stop doing #1 and #2 above
the above is a fair point.
Imprisonment is the ultimate goal imo.
But I want him taken down first, imprisonment is the icing. I want him to become the felon that he is. Imprisonment after that would be nice but not necessary if some other things happened.
Just making him stay in his home, whatever. Not able to send out social info as he is a danger to start riots. He leaves the country. I personally dont need retribution on him, I want him gone from the idiots who idolize him.
Hell... really I just want him gone. His lying and committing crimes is dangerous because of his position. He is an ex president. We elected him. Let him go to Saudi Arabia or something and die there, not here. No martyrdom within this country would be nice.
daboom1
04-02-2023, 02:15 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
:lmao
Spurs Homer
04-02-2023, 02:16 PM
the above is a fair point.
Imprisonment is the ultimate goal imo.
But I want him taken down first, imprisonment is the icing. I want him to become the felon that he is. Imprisonment after that would be nice but not necessary if some other things happened.
Just making him stay in his home, whatever. Not able to send out social info as he is a danger to start riots. He leaves the country. I personally dont need retribution on him, I want him gone from the idiots who idolize him.
Hell... really I just want him gone. His lying and committing crimes is dangerous because of his position. He is an ex president. We elected him. Let him go to Saudi Arabia or something and die there, not here. No martyrdom within this country would be nice.
Well, if only ^
I can agree with most of that but therein lies a problem-
if you do NOT imprison him (prison would absolutely restrict his social media access and influence)
and to merely ban him from holding office , you just KNOW idiots like ducks,darrin,TSA, cosmic cowboy, et al
will absolutely continue their assault on our democracy and elevate the convicted traitor felon to god status again and they will absolutely continue their cult worship and be the constant threat to our democracy
ONLY imprisoning him will finally show the cultists that their hero sits behind bars and will die in prison and they can follow in his footsteps- or
maybe choose to wake from their cult trance
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 02:55 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
:lmao
How much did you give?
daboom1
04-02-2023, 02:57 PM
:cry
ElNono
04-02-2023, 02:58 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
:lmao
:lmao celebrating the grifting... trumptard confirmed
ducks
04-02-2023, 03:04 PM
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3929436-jeb-bush-questions-trump-indictment-says-jury-should-be-the-voters/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Wow Jeb bush
ducks
04-02-2023, 03:04 PM
How much did you give?
Does it matter to you
ducks
04-02-2023, 03:26 PM
$5M in Donations, 16K Volunteers Flow in for Trump After Indictment
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 03:43 PM
Does it matter to you
You gave nothing.:lol
Neither did Qhris.:lol
ducks
04-02-2023, 03:51 PM
The average campaign donation in the first 24 hours was merely $34.
ducks
04-02-2023, 03:52 PM
You gave nothing.:lol
Neither did Qhris.:lol
Oh really
boutons_deux
04-02-2023, 03:59 PM
MacDougal apparently is back in the in the game playing against trash
daboom1
04-02-2023, 04:00 PM
The average campaign donation in the first 24 hours was merely $34.
Grassroots. Not Soros, Zelensky, and Planned Parenthood.
MultiTroll
04-02-2023, 04:04 PM
How DA could use hush money payment to Playboy model Karen McDougal to bolster Trump case - ABC News (go.com) (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/da-hush-money-payment-playboy-model-karen-mcdougal/story?id=98245449)
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 04:12 PM
Oh really
Really.
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 04:12 PM
Grassroots. Not Soros, Zelensky, and Planned Parenthood.Not you.:lol
Blake
04-02-2023, 04:17 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsSFYnV/20230331-112230.jpg
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
:lmao
Lol he's clearly not a billionaire any more, is he.
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 04:22 PM
Lol he's clearly not a billionaire any more, is he.
:lol begging rubes for money
spurs10
04-02-2023, 04:58 PM
The average campaign donation in the first 24 hours was merely $34. Whatever you gave it's not enough. He's gonna need it after the rest of the indictments come in and he loses the NY civil suit for $225 million. Open your heart...and wallet!
djohn2oo8
04-02-2023, 05:33 PM
$5M in Donations, 16K Volunteers Flow in for Trump After Indictment
And will be subjected to forfeiture as you cannot fundraise off of a crime in NY. He won’t spend it on lawyers. He’s pocketing that money.
daboom1
04-02-2023, 05:54 PM
And will be subjected to forfeiture as you cannot fundraise off of a crime in NY. He won’t spend it on lawyers. He’s pocketing that money.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PastHilariousEastsiberianlaika-max-1mb.gif
ChumpDumper
04-02-2023, 06:42 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PastHilariousEastsiberianlaika-max-1mb.gif
:lol rubes giving to a "billionaire"
Adam Lambert
04-02-2023, 07:00 PM
Imagine bragging about how easily grifted you are. :lol
Adam Lambert
04-02-2023, 07:02 PM
"Please sir, I know you can afford to defend yourself unlike the majority of people in this country, but please take my $34! I love you sir!"
So sad.
CosmicCowboy
04-03-2023, 07:25 AM
I was thinking about Braggs case driving in this morning. I know all the speculation is about trying to elevate the hush money to a federal campaign violation but it might be a lot simpler than that. I was forgetting that NY has state income tax. When Trumps personal tax return called the hush money "legal fees" it could be as simple as State tax evasion since legal fees are deductible when you itemize. The hush money payments if classified correctly would not be deductible. With multiple payments paid to Cohen and then claiming those payments to be deductible Bragg could easily stack those charges to arrive at the 32 count. There is also the issue of signing a tax return. Intentionally signing a false tax return is felony perjury.
MultiTroll
04-03-2023, 10:21 AM
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3929436-jeb-bush-questions-trump-indictment-says-jury-should-be-the-voters/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Wow Jeb bush
Trumps DOJ ordered Cyrus Vance to stand down.
Only reason he did.
Jeb Bush trying to spout Vance could have charged Rump. Not true.
Former Manhattan DA explains reason why Trump wasn’t charged earlier in hush money case (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-manhattan-da-explains-reason-why-trump-wasn-t-charged-earlier-in-hush-money-case/ar-AA19o003)
Dirks_Finale
04-03-2023, 11:26 AM
I was thinking about Braggs case driving in this morning. I know all the speculation is about trying to elevate the hush money to a federal campaign violation but it might be a lot simpler than that. I was forgetting that NY has state income tax. When Trumps personal tax return called the hush money "legal fees" it could be as simple as State tax evasion since legal fees are deductible when you itemize. The hush money payments if classified correctly would not be deductible. With multiple payments paid to Cohen and then claiming those payments to be deductible Bragg could easily stack those charges to arrive at the 32 count. There is also the issue of signing a tax return. Intentionally signing a false tax return is felony perjury.
None of that really matters, IMO. He is going to take the "I was just following my attorney's(Cohen) advice" defense and it will be effective. Slap on the wrist, if even that happens.
GA case is where I think he has royally screwed himself.
pgardn
04-03-2023, 11:28 AM
I was thinking about Braggs case driving in this morning. I know all the speculation is about trying to elevate the hush money to a federal campaign violation but it might be a lot simpler than that. I was forgetting that NY has state income tax. When Trumps personal tax return called the hush money "legal fees" it could be as simple as State tax evasion since legal fees are deductible when you itemize. The hush money payments if classified correctly would not be deductible. With multiple payments paid to Cohen and then claiming those payments to be deductible Bragg could easily stack those charges to arrive at the 32 count. There is also the issue of signing a tax return. Intentionally signing a false tax return is felony perjury.
Not all of the specific charges have come out yet so maybe this could be one of them.
The lawyers need to weigh in on this I guess.
CosmicCowboy
04-03-2023, 11:44 AM
If Weisselberg testified Trump told him to charge it to legal fees that will be pretty damning. BTW pgardn did you get my pm?
pgardn
04-03-2023, 11:48 AM
If Weisselberg testified Trump told him to charge it to legal fees that will be pretty damning. BTW pgardn did you get my pm?
I almost never look.
I will take a look.
CosmicCowboy
04-03-2023, 11:51 AM
Remember weisselberg just dropped Trumps lawyers and hired his own. If he testifies Trump ordered him to code it as legal fees from Trumps personal account it will be pretty damning.
pgardn
04-03-2023, 11:55 AM
CC
Very kind of you.
I got drone shots from friends that are very up to date.
they have to wait for the right weather, but I have some recent ones.
the bay system does change quite a bit, the places I go have gone through has a lot of changes just through the wind directions being very different for long periods of time so they are very useful. Thank you for your offer though. And I have not gone due to the wind. I cant catch days with little wind coinciding with getting out from underneath work.
CosmicCowboy
04-03-2023, 11:59 AM
CC
Very kind of you.
I got drone shots from friends that are very up to date.
they have to wait for the right weather, but I have some recent ones.
the bay system does change quite a bit, the places I go have gone through has a lot of changes just through the wind directions being very different for long periods of time so they are very useful. Thank you for your offer though. And I have not gone due to the wind. I cant catch days with little wind coinciding with getting out from underneath work.
Yeah the wind always sucks this time of year. It slows down just in time to get brutally hot.
djohn2oo8
04-03-2023, 12:18 PM
I was thinking about Braggs case driving in this morning. I know all the speculation is about trying to elevate the hush money to a federal campaign violation but it might be a lot simpler than that. I was forgetting that NY has state income tax. When Trumps personal tax return called the hush money "legal fees" it could be as simple as State tax evasion since legal fees are deductible when you itemize. The hush money payments if classified correctly would not be deductible. With multiple payments paid to Cohen and then claiming those payments to be deductible Bragg could easily stack those charges to arrive at the 32 count. There is also the issue of signing a tax return. Intentionally signing a false tax return is felony perjury.
Exactly. Guess we will see.
baseline bum
04-03-2023, 12:49 PM
He is an ex president. We elected him.
No we didn't. The electoral college elected him. We voted for Clinton over him by +2 points, or almost 3 million votes.
Winehole23
04-03-2023, 03:42 PM
Remember weisselberg just dropped Trumps lawyers and hired his own. If he testifies Trump ordered him to code it as legal fees from Trumps personal account it will be pretty damning.may establish pattern of fact for other pending cases, perhaps even the supposedly weak NY case.
pgardn
04-03-2023, 06:10 PM
No we didn't. The electoral college elected him. We voted for Clinton over him by +2 points, or almost 3 million votes.
Unfortunately we have to play by the rules.
Which can be changed if there is a big push for the popular vote by a bunch of people.
It also does come into play with Rump and his Georgia shit which was egregious act of trying to overthrow a State vote by a president imo.
Btw Prop A comes up in San Antonio in May. I don’t know for sure how the State of Texas shuts it down if it passes but they will try their red asses off I’m sure. There was a day people on this board said it does not matter if we vote. Well it does. There are political shifts.
ducks
04-03-2023, 07:38 PM
Mugshots also aren’t public record under New York state law.
But I am sure it be leaked
spurraider21
04-03-2023, 07:41 PM
Mugshots also aren’t public record under New York state law.
But I am sure it be leaked
and you will fap to it
ducks
04-03-2023, 08:11 PM
Under the New York State penal code, a conviction for the Class E felony of falsifying business records can result in a prison term of up to four years. But as a practical matter, that seems extremely unlikely. “No one gets jail time for that as a first offender,” said a New York law enforcement official.
The evidence for the underlying crime that escalated Trump’s alleged misdemeanors to felonies is still not clear and won’t be until the indictment is unsealed on Tuesday. But it is believed to relate to the payment of $130,000 in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels during the closing weeks of the 2016 election to conceal an extramarital encounter with Trump
ducks
04-03-2023, 08:11 PM
Exclusive: Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot
ducks
04-03-2023, 08:11 PM
The link fools
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html
ducks
04-03-2023, 08:16 PM
No we didn't. The electoral college elected him. We voted for Clinton over him by +2 points, or almost 3 million votes.
That is how this country works
If you hate it get the hell out
pgardn
04-03-2023, 08:42 PM
That is how this country works
If you hate it get the hell out
Needs changing.
ChumpDumper
04-03-2023, 09:16 PM
Under the New York State penal code, a conviction for the Class E felony of falsifying business records can result in a prison term of up to four years. But as a practical matter, that seems extremely unlikely. “No one gets jail time for that as a first offender,” said a New York law enforcement official.
The evidence for the underlying crime that escalated Trump’s alleged misdemeanors to felonies is still not clear and won’t be until the indictment is unsealed on Tuesday. But it is believed to relate to the payment of $130,000 in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels during the closing weeks of the 2016 election to conceal an extramarital encounter with Trump
The link fools
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html
Exclusive: Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot
That is how this country works
If you hate it get the hell out
lol meltdown
ChumpDumper
04-03-2023, 09:47 PM
Still an effective plea for more donations from rubes.
1642940639930359808
pgardn
04-03-2023, 10:52 PM
The guy involved in almost 4000 lawsuits has said:
“On Tuesday morning I will be going to, believe it or not, the Courthouse, America was not supposed to be this way!"
Blake
04-03-2023, 10:55 PM
The guy involved in almost 4000 lawsuits has said:
“On Tuesday morning I will be going to, believe it or not, the Courthouse, America was not supposed to be this way!"
That is how this country works
If you hate it get the hell out
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 03:12 AM
Republicans knew they were voting for a crook. They are about to cry about it, though.
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 07:22 AM
1643221879010762752
happy arrest day you bitch TSA
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 08:30 AM
1643221879010762752
happy arrest day you bitch TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)
did that treasonous bitch pay you yet?
Monostradamus
04-04-2023, 08:40 AM
:lmao
1643222842757234688
1643221879010762752
happy arrest day you bitch TSA
What happened on 3/22/2019 that made you abandon your own thread and avoid the political forum for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
Ef-man
04-04-2023, 09:37 AM
IGNORE THE TOPIC, ANSWER ME!
Answer me!!!!!
:lol
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 10:12 AM
did that treasonous bitch pay you yet?
He’s out on the block performing acts to get my money
Blake
04-04-2023, 10:17 AM
:lmao
1643222842757234688
Lol Trump Water?
I remember he also once had a line of neck ties at Macy's that he lost out on
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 10:27 AM
1643266487145095169
lmao Coke jaw
He’s out on the block performing acts to get my money
Money for what? I didn't lose any bet.
What happened on 3/22/2019 that made you abandon your own thread and avoid the political forum for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
Blake
04-04-2023, 12:31 PM
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Blake
04-04-2023, 12:32 PM
Looking from the aerial view following the Trump caravan, hard to tell he's at the court house. Looks more like a taxi house from the sky view
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 12:38 PM
1643304946647851033
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1643304946647851033
What happened on 3/22/2019 that made you abandon your own thread and avoid the political forum for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
daboom1
04-04-2023, 01:09 PM
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1642984137765302272?t
:wow
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 01:10 PM
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1642984137765302272?t
:wow
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 01:16 PM
He’s out on the block performing acts to get my money
little broke ass bitch needs to swallow and then pay his debt!
horseshue
04-04-2023, 01:16 PM
WTF!!! Orange shit arrested??? :lmao
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04-04-2023, 01:18 PM
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You are not missing much.
He is still posting "answer me," having a hard time coping, and welshing.
Poor fella.
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 01:19 PM
Only took 7 fucking years…
first conviction or two = DOJ will bend over backwards and twist themselves into pretzels to explain why no jail time
third/fourth/fifth convictions= grey bar hotel baby!
daboom1
04-04-2023, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1643313371842748436?t
:wow
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 01:25 PM
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1643313371842748436?t
:wow
damn so this judge can never rule on a case involving republicans or democrats because his daughter has political opinions
little broke ass bitch needs to swallow and then pay his debt!
What debt?
daboom1
04-04-2023, 01:26 PM
The daughter of the Manhattan judge presiding over the Trump criminal case is a Democratic political strategist who worked on the congressional campaign of Democrat Rep. ADAM SCHIFF, who led the first impeachment of Trump.
:wow
You are not missing much.
He is still posting "answer me," having a hard time coping, and welshing.
Poor fella.
What welsh?
daboom1
04-04-2023, 01:28 PM
Poor fella.
That's my shit.
Get your own shit. :tu
Ef-man
04-04-2023, 01:32 PM
That's my shit.
Get your own shit. :tu
Speaking of welshing, why are you still posting on ST qchrisy?
Say whhhhhhaataaat?
Ef-man
04-04-2023, 01:33 PM
What welsh?
You want to be spoon fed, again?
Pay up welsher.
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 01:36 PM
1643320175389728772
clambake
04-04-2023, 01:38 PM
Trump arrested.
Money lost.
lefty
04-04-2023, 01:47 PM
:lol
https://twitter.com/kmorgan76/status/1643320710717382656
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 01:49 PM
1643324259521945603
You want to be spoon fed, again?
Pay up welsher.
Pay up for what?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 01:52 PM
1643325282789756929
:lmao
1643324259521945603
What happened on 3/22/2019 that made you abandon your own thread and avoid the political forum for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 01:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs4o2zNWAAEFYru?format=jpg&name=large
Ef-man
04-04-2023, 01:55 PM
Pay up for what?
Stop playing the fool and just pay up, as you are not convincing anyone, you lost, period, pay up or taken on the honorific of "welsher," end of story.
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 01:55 PM
What happened on 3/22/2019 that made you abandon your own thread and avoid the political forum for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
do you have a link to the actual bet terms?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 01:56 PM
1643326246888062977
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 01:59 PM
Last week I posted my flowchart (https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/indictment-watch-part-2) of possible legal theories which Bragg might pursue, if he chooses to “bump up” the misdemeanor to a felony. Bragg can basically charge Trump with a felony, rather than a misdemeanor, if he can demonstrate that Trump falsified his business records with the intent to commit or conceal another offense. The question if Bragg goes this route is, what will the other offense be?
Basically it looks like there are two main avenues: The campaign finance avenue and the tax fraud avenue. Further, on the campaign finance side, there is the question of whether the violation would be of state law, or of federal law. Each of these presents some significant legal questions which Renato and I have highlighted on our podcast. And unlike the base charge for falsifying business records, linking that to a campaign finance violation would be a relatively novel legal theory, which opens the door for opponents to claim that Bragg is singling out Trump and also makes it a riskier prosecution, since legal issues could be resolved against him. David French makes that argument here (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/opinion/trump-indictment-skeptical-case.html?unlocked_article_code=oO_1qixbU5BVf-g1yAaACBmurVvpZZVN6arYic-U2baG_7Zd3sCnFSmWmqFh4RARUjBNL0PAPQ-PCOKdO6TDLpfqBxXulKG3ad6PzXh1qnTDsiwVICCZ78p0EL8vY vnBuG6uUZ-2EXTx06vMqdDgrgw8BYKRnpm4W0KFkM921ap_azpT5qPTXZ-Iq3hX4Uz9p8UwRyEGrcaOg7y6RNY_mCV_BoGKOIf-3U7uJqAJquknQx2ITKBWkS-93WtJWqv4utgvBpR84e4iHfjqEgU95DqCl_Cipn2UwBXuLV5-jYc6RSUmPkZ-gYhbkNikn2_nRbXlOdFxGXvqiNlduV1nQmIvlhAUhlODgg&smid=url-share).
The tax fraud avenue is laid by Andrew Weismann and Ryan Goodman in this New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/opinion/trump-indictment-alvin-bragg.html?unlocked_article_code=R9Rp5ZlWxEmrCL6-n-9kLhDSeAHPH29YftVXrkscQGCyqPSfhE6kWire2iIeF9p79hGI yjnFBN5t2DxK2dTHKONb7qKqwwRT3tDtDEEABQ5yopKBjAitf7 hNVNj7r-JT9JQkHRgBIg39soOY-frgSn86vVS93WcWEhof7PTXhrdLZLz3E7qHPdA7zUcIeWib0b_ S9NXH98GOspbwnnqY5NwI5WL-X8Zsyh9_DZ-SIiQQM46ZpkxzXyo8sbnLPKU6FZ-hidekCo8zgNKn-cjUSpzZhOo2jqmXsx0GdkDR6f7aEdDSbnyt19zRQPKHeLpXcEo SruKLEHazV3t7L2lDkFyoLeoySw&smid=url-share) piece (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/opinion/trump-indictment-alvin-bragg.html?unlocked_article_code=R9Rp5ZlWxEmrCL6-n-9kLhDSeAHPH29YftVXrkscQGCyqPSfhE6kWire2iIeF9p79hGI yjnFBN5t2DxK2dTHKONb7qKqwwRT3tDtDEEABQ5yopKBjAitf7 hNVNj7r-JT9JQkHRgBIg39soOY-frgSn86vVS93WcWEhof7PTXhrdLZLz3E7qHPdA7zUcIeWib0b_ S9NXH98GOspbwnnqY5NwI5WL-X8Zsyh9_DZ-SIiQQM46ZpkxzXyo8sbnLPKU6FZ-hidekCo8zgNKn-cjUSpzZhOo2jqmXsx0GdkDR6f7aEdDSbnyt19zRQPKHeLpXcEo SruKLEHazV3t7L2lDkFyoLeoySw&smid=url-share). This is less novel, but the specific theory that Weismann and Goodman present — that the “fraud” was that Trump helped Cohen inflate his income on his tax returns — suggests that New York received more, not less, tax revenue. Not being able to show that New York suffered a loss may undercut a key element required to demonstrate an intent to defraud, as explained below.
https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/indictment-watch-part-3
Stop playing the fool and just pay up, as you are not convincing anyone, you lost, period, pay up or taken on the honorific of "welsher," end of story.
If I lost, as you claim, why did the other party to the bet abandon his own thread and go into hiding for almost a year?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
Strange way for the winner of a bet to behave wouldn't you agree?
do you have a link to the actual bet terms?
They are in that thread. djohn just bumped it and started posting snippets about the bet until he realized it was exposing his welsh on the bet and he hid from the thread again :lol
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:01 PM
what was the original bet?
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 02:01 PM
But bbbbut- HER EMAILS!!!
:elephant:cry:elephant:cry:rollin:rollin:rollin
https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/indictment-watch-part-3
Asha Rangappa :lol
https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs5FMmrWcAYECIx?format=jpg&name=small
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:02 PM
1643327951491006464
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:02 PM
Asha Rangappa :lol
https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/is her gloss not legally sound?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:03 PM
1643328153979621376
what was the original bet?
Mueller would put Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, and Kushner in prison. $500 for each on put in prison. Mueller closed the investigation and none went prison over the Mueller investigation.
Here is the day djohn lost the bet and then went into hiding from the political forum for almost a year.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 02:04 PM
34 counts = FELONIES
But but- PROCESS CRIMES!
is her gloss not legally sound?
A notch above Louise Mensch
Spurs Homer
04-04-2023, 02:05 PM
Mueller would put Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, and Kushner in prison. $500 for each on put in prison. Mueller closed the investigation and none went prison over the Mueller investigation.
Here is the day djohn lost the bet and then went into hiding from the political forum for almost a year.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmao
stop lying and pay the man you piece of shit!
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 02:06 PM
They are in that thread. djohn just bumped it and started posting snippets about the bet until he realized it was exposing his welsh on the bet and he hid from the thread again :lol
i mean you went as far back to find the post that declares your win, shouldnt be too hard to find the post that actually set forth the terms of the bet
was it that mueller specifically would bring charges that lead to imprisonment? was there a specific time frame? would be good to actually see the terms laid out in a post or series of posts
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:07 PM
1643328153979621376that may actually be a defense against conspiracy to defraud charges, if I understand the foregoing. If NY suffered no loss, but actually collected more money, it may not be able to prove it was defrauded.
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:09 PM
1643328975530491904
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:09 PM
A notch above Louise Menschwho do you like on cable TV?
i mean you went as far back to find the post that declares your win, shouldnt be too hard to find the post that actually set forth the terms of the bet
was it that mueller specifically would bring charges that lead to imprisonment? was there a specific time frame? would be good to actually see the terms laid out in a post or series of posts
Mueller investigation and bet was open as long as his investigation was ongoing. djohn went into hiding 3/19/2022...hmmm...wonder why.
who do you like on cable TV?
I don't watch cable tv.
Winehole23
04-04-2023, 02:11 PM
Mueller would put Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, and Kushner in prison. $500 for each on put in prison. Mueller closed the investigation and none went prison over the Mueller investigation.
Here is the day djohn lost the bet and then went into hiding from the political forum for almost a year.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=1827&p=9744636#post9744636
:lmaoSo, what were the original terms, verbatim? Do you have that post handy?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:13 PM
We've already got $500 on Trump going to prison. Do you want to add Kushner, Ivanka, and Don Jr for another $500 each?
Oh look. No Mueller mentioned.
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 02:14 PM
Oh look. No Mueller mentioned.
link to that original $500 bet that was "already" there?
hopefully that would have some more detail
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:15 PM
1643330951089405954
:lmao :lmao
LkrFan
04-04-2023, 02:16 PM
1643320754535280640
:lol
Oh look. No Mueller mentioned.
Why did you abandon the thread and go into hiding for almost a year on the exact day Mueller closed his investigation if our bet had nothing to do with Mueller's investigation? Answer the question pussy.
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 02:17 PM
just waiting for somebody to actually post the full indictment online. its been unsealed and some reports are already coming out about the contents
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:18 PM
link to that original $500 bet that was "already" there?
hopefully that would have some more detail
That’s not our bet djohn. Our bet had to do with Trump charged with obstructing Justice. Do you remember the terms of our $500 bet yes or no?
im looking for the original to this post I’m getting closer. Looks like he changed the bet.
LkrFan
04-04-2023, 02:19 PM
I don't watch cable tv.
Trump indicted, not Hillary
https://i.imgflip.com/41fimr.jpg
im looking for the original to this post I’m getting closer. Looks like he changed the bet.
Why did you abandon the thread and go into hiding for almost a year on the exact day Mueller closed his investigation if our bet had nothing to do with Mueller's investigation? Answer the question pussy.
Leetonidas
04-04-2023, 02:20 PM
The only one who cares about this stupid bet is TSA :lol no one else here cares dude, quit spamming up threads with this nonsense
LkrFan
04-04-2023, 02:20 PM
34 fel:lolnies.
LkrFan
04-04-2023, 02:21 PM
Instead of 45, he's now 34 :lol
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:22 PM
1643332819589148672
OMG :lmao
The only one who cares about this stupid bet is TSA :lol no one else here cares dude, quit spamming up threads with this nonsense
Put me on ignore. I'll continue to spam the threads and mock djohn welshing on a measly 2 grand.
Ef-man
04-04-2023, 02:23 PM
The only one who cares about this stupid bet is TSA :lol no one else here cares dude, quit spamming up threads with this nonsense
ANSWER ME!!!!! :lol
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:26 PM
Put me on ignore. I'll continue to spam the threads and mock djohn welshing on a measly 2 grand.
You don’t even have $500, Saudi Arabia
LkrFan
04-04-2023, 02:27 PM
1643324529111105537
You don’t even have $500, Saudi Arabia
what happened on 3/22/2019 that caused you to go into hiding for almost a year?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2023, 02:30 PM
Anyways…..Trump arraigned, not Hillary
Anyways…..Trump arraigned, not Hillary
Anyways...what happened on 3/22/2019 that caused you to go into hiding for almost a year?
spurraider21
04-04-2023, 02:32 PM
Anyways...what happened on 3/22/2019 that caused you to go into hiding for almost a year?
how about we get this shit settled so you dont have to spam this thread like derp
post the terms of the original bet(s) with links to them
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