Spurs free agency targets

[Degoat]

^ Does that mean we get Brook?

I think he stays with MIL.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

^ Does that mean we get Brook?

Hopefully.

[SpursFan86]

^ Does that mean we get Brook?

Last I saw he was likely to return to Milwaukee

[Mr. Body]

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Sounds like FVV and Dillon Brooks to Houston is close to a sure thing at this point.

Houston is must watch basketball now.

[exstatic]

1674421495450451968

Sounds like FVV and Dillon Brooks to Houston is close to a sure thing at this point.

:rollin Throw a couple more chucklefucks on the fire.

[rankingtear]

I think he stays with MIL.

He can't turn down a lot of money.

[exstatic]

Houston is must watch basketball now.

The implosion will be epic.

[rjv]

:rollin Throw a couple more chucklefucks on the fire.


rockets are putting together a real powder keg over there.

[onechance87]

a pg who can shoot and pass...theres gotta be pg out there

[Degoat]

a pg who can shoot and pass...theres gotta be pg out there

I like the idea of Gabe Vincent or Seth Curry on a two year deal, but its just tough because we will for sure resign Tre Jones and we have Devonte Graham who honestly is pretty good as a spark off the bench

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/NBASarah/status/1674445240458166273

[Mr. Body]

a pg who can shoot and pass...theres gotta be pg out there

We've got Devonte Graham at home.

[heyheymymy]

https://i.imgur.com/NWp9RIq.jpg

[EricB]

We've got Devonte Graham at home.


best 20 win team of all time.

[Mr. Body]

best 20 win team of all time.

I wonder when people will catch up to the fact that we drafted Victor Wembanyama.

[JPB]

No idea where HOU is going with those 2 year contracts for FVV and Brooks.. Doesn't make sense.

But it's all good.

[ace3g]

Time to finally sign him.

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1674438588472217600

[Degoat]

Time to finally sign him.

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1674438588472217600

Wow! I had no idea he still played professionally lol

[barakz21]

Houston is must watch basketball now.

KPJ, Green and now Brooks? Hell yeah, bring on the shenanigans!

In all seriousness, Brooks would be a good piece for a contending team. But it can’t just be any contending team, like Memphis. A team similar to the big three era Spurs teams would be perfect for him. Teams with strong culture, clear cut veteran leadership. I’m thinking teams like Denver, Miami, Milwaukee.

[Mr. Body]

Rumors increasing that Houston will sign Kyle Kuzma.

[spurraider21]

houston making sure we dont sign vanvleet or kuzma

:tu

[Teamduncan21]

Ok. Houston is now trying to sign anything they can get their hands on

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol Houston signing guards and wings when most of their rookies play those positions. I wonder how they will distribute playing time. Makes no sense, but whatever. I wish they would‘ve offered all of those guys 4-year deals to mess up their cap space

[Extra Stout]

Spurs to-do list:
Today: Make QO’s to FA’s they might want to keep.
Tomorrow: sign rookies.
Upcoming week: try to swing a trade with NO for Jonas Valanciunas.
Within two days of any RFA signing an offer sheet: Decide whether to match.
If no trade for Valanciunas: Offer Dwight Powell 1 year, $15 million.
If in danger of missing salary floor: Overpay somebody.
To Spurstalk posters who wanted a point guard: “We like what we have, let’s see what we have, let’s find out what works, be patient, no big costly mistakes.”

[Kurik]

Houston doing the lords work

[slick'81]

Just keep brooks away from wemby

[Joseph Kony]

WTF is Houston doing :lol I get that they have no incentive to tank next year but signing all these ill-fitting chuckers to go along with their young knucklehead chuckers seems incredibly dumb

[scott]

Tillman Frittata playing NBA2K GM again. You hate to see it.

[cd98]

Spurs to-do list:
Today: Make QO’s to FA’s they might want to keep.
Tomorrow: sign rookies.
Upcoming week: try to swing a trade with NO for Jonas Valanciunas.
Within two days of any RFA signing an offer sheet: Decide whether to match.
If no trade for Valanciunas: Offer Dwight Powell 1 year, $15 million.
If in danger of missing salary floor: Overpay somebody.
To Spurstalk posters who wanted a point guard: “We like what we have, let’s see what we have, let’s find out what works, be patient, no big costly mistakes.”

Well, it's possible to sign a veteran point guard to a one or two year deal. I think it would be good for Wemby's development to have a point guard right off that knows how to play the position. First and second year guys are fine, but they should get one guy to show them the ropes. Chris Paul would've been perfect because he had one year left on his deal and you could release him at the end of the year so he could join a contender. But alas, that ship sailed.

[MannyIsGod]

Why this obsession with adding long-term salary to the team for players who do shit the team already does? In the case of Grant Williams, not even that well? Is it like some kind of consumerist mania, like you're in a mall and just have to spend some of your money? You guys sound like a little kid at the check out lane throwing a fit when Mommy won't buy you a Kit-Kat bar.

Spending money for no fucking reason right now is fucking stupid.


Why would the Spurs use draft space they will lose regardless to sign positive young players asks brilliant NBA mind.

I mean adding talent to the team is somehow "consumerist"? What in the actual fuck is this flaying. If you don't rate a player then fine. You can simply say I don't think Williams is good. The stars will prove that you aren't making a good analysis, IMO, but at least that would be better than all this nonsensical bullshit you throw out instead.

Also no one mentioned a specific contract my dude. Obviously there is a point where Williams would not be worth it but you didn't bother.gicing ranges on what that might be but instead decided to just shit on the idea out of hand with some of the most bullshit reasons I've ever seen.

You're so fucking weird man.

[spurraider21]

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[Extra Stout]

I expect Langford not to get a QO.

[Mr. Body]

Why would the Spurs use draft space they will lose regardless to sign positive young players asks brilliant NBA mind.

I mean adding talent to the team is somehow "consumerist"? What in the actual fuck is this flaying. If you don't rate a player then fine. You can simply say I don't think Williams is good. The stars will prove that you aren't making a good analysis, IMO, but at least that would be better than all this nonsensical bullshit you throw out instead.

Also no one mentioned a specific contract my dude. Obviously there is a point where Williams would not be worth it but you didn't bother.gicing ranges on what that might be but instead decided to just shit on the idea out of hand with some of the most bullshit reasons I've ever seen.

You're so fucking weird man.

They're not likely to take on new contracts for more than this year, unless somehow the asset compensation makes it worth it.

You may want to follow the Rockets?

[Ariel]

Spurs to-do list:
Today: Make QO’s to FA’s they might want to keep.
Tomorrow: sign rookies.
Upcoming week: try to swing a trade with NO for Jonas Valanciunas.
Within two days of any RFA signing an offer sheet: Decide whether to match.
If no trade for Valanciunas: Offer Dwight Powell 1 year, $15 million.
If in danger of missing salary floor: Overpay somebody.
To Spurstalk posters who wanted a point guard: “We like what we have, let’s see what we have, let’s find out what works, be patient, no big costly mistakes.”
Sounds fair, but if we can't upgrade PG (f VanVleet, Kyrie, etc) then at least I'd like one more cheap competent guard to fight for minutes with Tre, like a Monte Morris or something (you can't throw current Blake at Wemby for 15+ mpg). He's 28 y.o. making less than 10M on an expiring deal and should cost maybe a 2nd round pick (given how little value they've been able to get from their assets) or maybe absorb him outright, can run the team and be a reliable shooter from 3, and is a high character guy that played with Jokic on the way up and I think understands what Wemby will need and face. At worst you let him go next offseason, no harm done. This plus a center that can bang inside and rebound good for 20 mpg -like say Plumlee- and re-signing current guys (Tre, Mamu, Champagnie, maybe KBD), extending Vassell, and maybe being open to an opportunity (get an interesting player, salary dump, etc) is ok by me. I'd play it safe, no risky deals that take you out of '25 free agency and wait for an opportunity to come.

[Mr. Body]

Why this interest in getting mid PGs? We already have mid PGs. All you're doing is making it harder to deal with the roster at the deadline and after the season.

[Dverde]

I have a feeling we are getting Mason Plumlee. Those Plumlee & McNuggets lineups will be extremely helpful to improve our 2024 draft prospects.

[Seventyniner]

Houston is must watch basketball now.

In that they might end up having the first fight in NBA history composed only of its own players. I see very high shitshow potential on that team.

[JPB]

All the Rockets have to do now is trade Segun + 4 FRPs for Simmons and we good.

[CGD]

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Def think the spurs like Barlow. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a Bassey

[CorrectCrusader]

WTF is Houston doing :lol I get that they have no incentive to tank next year but signing all these ill-fitting chuckers to go along with their young knucklehead chuckers seems incredibly dumb

The All-Chucker teams this year are going to be full of Houston players.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

In that they might end up having the first fight in NBA history composed only of its own players. I see very high shitshow potential on that team.

History? Not even the first one in the last few months.

https://youtu.be/zrmi1D6qTvU

[Mr. Body]

History? Not even the first one in the last few months.

https://youtu.be/zrmi1D6qTvU

Man somehow we forgot that already and that one of their players broke his hand punching a wall?

McDaniels? What a nutty locker room.

[Seventyniner]

History? Not even the first one in the last few months.

Touche.

I meant more of an all out melee involving half the team. I can see some really bad blood developing on the Rockets now that they are actually expected to win, especially if they bring in several new players who will all want their touches too.

[barakz21]

So who do you guys think is the most likely 12:01 signee for this year?

[Ariel]

Why this interest in getting mid PGs? We already have mid PGs. All you're doing is making it harder to deal with the roster at the deadline and after the season.
We don't have "mid PGs", we have "A" mid PG, as in ONE (Tre). Do you expect Tre to play 48 mpg, 82 games a season? Right now Morris is up for grabs, I don't feel comfortable with Tre being the ONLY capable player, I don't love Graham and he's probably gone by the trade deadline, and Blake needs to work in his G-League, he can still play spot up minutes here and there but you can't expect him to get significant playing time this year at past year's level, at least not if you want to develop the rest of the guys (Wemby, Sochan, Malaki, etc).

[Guru of Nothing]

Touche.

I meant more of an all out melee involving half the team. I can see some really bad blood developing on the Rockets now that they are actually expected to win, especially if they bring in several new players who will all want their touches too.

Anchorman style.

[Mr. Body]

SpursTalk GOD Mo Bamba has been waived.

HERE'S OUR CHANCE

[Mr. Body]

We don't have "mid PGs", we have "A" mid PG, as in ONE (Tre). Do you expect Tre to play 48 mpg, 82 games a season? Right now Morris is up for grabs, I don't feel comfortable with Tre being the ONLY capable player, I don't love Graham and Blake needs to work in his G-League, he can still play spot up minutes here and there but you can't expect him to get 20 mpg this year at past year's level, at least not if you want to develop the rest of the guys (Wemby, Sochan, Malaki, etc).

We have Tre, Graham, and Wesley. That's three middling PGs. We don't need any more.

[Extra Stout]

We don't have "mid PGs", we have "A" mid PG, as in ONE (Tre). Do you expect Tre to play 48 mpg, 82 games a season? Right now Morris is up for grabs, I don't feel comfortable with Tre being the ONLY capable player, I don't love Graham and Blake needs to work in his G-League, he can still play spot up minutes here and there but you can't expect him to get 20 mpg this year at past year's level, at least not if you want to develop the rest of the guys (Wemby, Sochan, Malaki, etc).
Devonte’ Graham is mid among mids. There is none midder.

[Extra Stout]

If you were to ask, which point guard is so mid that fans of his team regularly forget he exists, why, that would be Devonte’.

[Ariel]

Devonte’ Graham is mid among mids. There is none midder.
I think that's overrating him.

[Ariel]

We have Tre, Graham, and Wesley. That's three middling PGs. We don't need any more.
If you don't want more, fine. Flip Graham for Morris, send Washington a pick or 2. Monte Morris > Graham.

[spurraider21]

lakers declining options/guarantees on both mo bamba and malik beasley

dont really see us having interest in either

[Extra Stout]

If you don't want more, fine. Flip Graham for Morris, send Washington a pick or 2. Monte Morris > Graham.
You’re not wrong, but why would Washington take back a PG when their existing glut is the whole reason Morris is available?

[Degoat]

Feel like this guy is developing ST legend as far as people bringing him up but the lakers waived Mo Bamba, someone to consider

[DesignatedT]

Jakob Poeltl is expected to receive strong interest from the Raptors, Spurs and Rockets in free agency, league sources told HoopsHype. There's a belief around the league that Poeltl could command around $20 million annually and could end free agency with a deal in the ballpark of three years, $20 million per, according to NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype.

[Mr. Body]

Harden is opting into his contact so they can work out a trade out of Philadelphia.

Man, Harden and Durant have been a total joke in this era.

[Degoat]

Wow big Woj bomb there, wonder what the market will be. Not many teams have the assets but then again I doubt 76ers want assets they probably want players

[Joseph Kony]

Jakob Poeltl is expected to receive strong interest from the Raptors, Spurs and Rockets in free agency, league sources told HoopsHype. There's a belief around the league that Poeltl could command around $20 million annually and could end free agency with a deal in the ballpark of three years, $20 million per, according to NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype.

we're going to end up with Poeltl again, arent we :lol

[Degoat]

Jake Fischer says Clippers have discussed a garden trade, guess PG would be out the door

[LeBowen]

Jake Fischer says Clippers have discussed a garden trade, guess PG would be out the door

Yeah, over the past few days there were reports about him being possibly traded.

Still, I think Ballmer is crazy enough to dig himself even deeper and form another big3.

Idk why would the Knicks want Harden, they have Brunson and Harden isn't a scorer he used to be.

[Mr. Body]

I thin this helps the Clippers long run since Harden is am expiring, but then they'd just resign him I guess

[mo7888]

Wow big Woj bomb there, wonder what the market will be. Not many teams have the assets but then again I doubt 76ers want assets they probably want players

So we're gonna give then cap space and take him for 1 year to meet the floor right? Lol...

[Mugen]

:lol I wonder where this will rank on the worst Harden trade scale tbh

[Ariel]

You’re not wrong, but why would Washington take back a PG when their existing glut is the whole reason Morris is available?
I doubt they care much for a backup PG, might as well take Graham if it nets them a pick or 2.

[Mr. Body]

Giving up picks for a marginal one year improvement in backup PG doesn't make sense. Just keep Graham.

[Mugen]

I'm sure the betting favorite is to the Clipeprs for PG where each guy gets an extension that their previous team didn't want to give them (Harden is an LA guy too).

But Harden for Siakam would be fun tbh :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

a PG for Harden trade would actually help the Sixers. Apparently they told Harden they don't see a long term future with him, i. e. they didn't want to give him an extension. In other news, here's a tidbit about our 2-way contracts



The Spurs will have three two-way contracts to award, hybrid deals that share a player with the G League. Those are expected to go to Dominick Barlow, second-round pick Sidy Cissoko and undrafted free agent Sir’Jabari Rice, (https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/san-antonio-spurs-won-t-rush-free-agency-aid-18176836.php) who played his final college season at Texas. The Spurs have expressed interest in bringing back Julian Champagnie — who finished last season on a two-way contract — on a full NBA deal.
2 hours ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/2161384/) – via San Antonio Express-News (https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/san-antonio-spurs-won-t-rush-free-agency-aid-18176836.php)

[ace3g]

Michael Scotto MikeAScotto
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The Phoenix Suns did not extend a qualifying offer to forward Darius Bazley, league sources told Hoopshype. The 23 year-old forward will enter the market as an unrestricted free agent after shooting 37.7 percent from 3-point range last season with the Thunder and Suns.

[Mugen]

If Nephew can drag Harden to a ring, I think he should be firmly Top 15 tbh :lol

[TeKu]

Pelicans just declined Herb Jones option to make him a restricted free agent. They have tax issues also.

Might be a target worth overpaying a bit for?

[baseline bum]

Not a lot of holes in the roster assuming Tre Jones is probably coming back.

PG would be a pretty big hole then

[Mugen]

PG would be a pretty big hole then

It's pretty huge already tbh

[tbdog]

Why do you think that? I know several people here like Grant, but i haven't heard tucker mentioned.

A guard with play making abilities. Spurs desperately need. Only 22 years old. My guess Williams goes for 16mil plus and Horton Tucker 12mil plus m

[szkorhetz]

Rockets are interested in everyone.

[baseline bum]

A guard with play making abilities. Spurs desperately need. Only 22 years old. My guess Williams goes for 16mil plus and Horton Tucker 12mil plus m

THT picked up his $11 million option to stay in Utah.

[RC_Drunkford]

no team with Harden on the roster will ever ring. Same with Westbrook. They can only ring as 3rd stringers who never see the court, like DeAndre Jordan

[Mr. Body]

Pelicans just declined Herb Jones option to make him a restricted free agent. They have tax issues also.

Might be a target worth overpaying a bit for?

They have to do this to extend him I believe -- he's staying.

[baseline bum]

So who do you guys think is the most likely 12:01 signee for this year?

We bring Gasol back

[Mr. Body]

Jaxon Hayes is now an unrestricted free agent. Among disappointing UT big men, I'm not surprised Mo Bamba sucked. I did expect more out of Hayes. Seemed to have more of a motor.

[td4mvp2k]

Pelicans just declined Herb Jones option to make him a restricted free agent. They have tax issues also.

Might be a target worth overpaying a bit for?
surprising. should def be on the list.

[mo7888]

A guard with play making abilities. Spurs desperately need. Only 22 years old. My guess Williams goes for 16mil plus and Horton Tucker 12mil plus m

He pucked up his option in utah for $11m....so nobody was offering more

[baseline bum]

If Nephew can drag Harden to a ring, I think he should be firmly Top 15 tbh :lol

He can't even drag toilet paper across his own ass

[Mugen]

He can't even drag toilet paper across his own ass

:lmao

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/Josh810/status/1674500694135435282

Nobody is reporting this and i understand why lol

[Degoat]

Typical under the radar mehhh signing the spurs do. I actually thought that he could be a target lol

[JuneJive]

Herb Jones max is 4yr/~51M

That is kinda cheap. Spurs could get in on that.

[spurraider21]

Pels will match imo

if they exercised his cheap 1 year deal, he'd be unrestricted next year. they're just trying to lock him up long term now

[Mugen]

Just give me BroLo and a cheap veteran PG, will be pretty pumped with that free agency summer tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Just give me BroLo and a cheap veteran PG, will be pretty pumped with that free agency summer tbh.

Lopez was probably never leaving Milwaukee.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1509990164415893517/qIuzsMq6_normal.jpg
Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn)3m (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674570811611422722)
Sacramento Kings forward Harrison Barnes – a key part of the franchise’s rise into Western Conference contention – has agreed on a new three-year, $54 million contract extension, his agent Jeff Schwartz of @excelbasketball (https://twitter.com/excelbasketball/) tells ESPN.

[Degoat]

Does that take them out of the Kuzma hunt? Rockets are about to blow their load lol

[MannyIsGod]

Would rather have Barnes than kuzma. Especially at that price.

[mo7888]

Does that take them out of the Kuzma hunt? Rockets are about to blow their load lol

Sacramento still has flexibility this offseason after the Harrison Barnes extension.

Options include:

1. Using $18M in room and also bring back Trey Lyles;

2. A combination of renegotiating Domantas Sabonis contract, bringing back Lyles, use remaining room and also the $7.7M room midlevel.

3. Act as a team over the cap

Bobby Marks

[MannyIsGod]

https://twitter.com/Josh810/status/1674500694135435282

Nobody is reporting this and i understand why lol

Meh, would much rather have Grant Williams.

[kobyz]

What about this guy, best defender in Europe who killed Wemby in the French Finals?
https://youtu.be/o6UUwliiwMw
https://youtu.be/o6UUwliiwMw

[EricB]

He’d cost money so immediately the spurs and the sycophants are out.

gotta find someone who doesn’t affect that precious 2024 cap space

[scott]

Resigning Jak is one thing if Toronto doesn't want him... but actively competing with Toronto to sign Jak would be a bad look and turn Toronto off from ever dealing with us again. They've been a fairly good trade partner for us recently so I don't see the FO burning that bridge.

Niang is exactly the kind of motherfucker this FO will randomly hand out a McDermott-like deal to and piss off this entire forum.

Saw a tweet that quotes Windhorst saying the Spurs are going to do something surprising (like, anything?)... even a 0.0001% chance of us trading for Harden is giving me anxiety.

[Extra Stout]

Saw a tweet that quotes Windhorst saying the Spurs are going to do something surprising (like, anything?)... even a 0.0001% chance of us trading for Harden is giving me anxiety.
In context it sounded less like the Spurs would do something dramatic like acquiring Harden or Dame, and more like a move where you’re left thinking, did they really do that? Like getting Kyle Lowry, for example.

[poopbox]

we're going to end up with Poeltl again, arent we :lol

Only thing better than signing poeltl and trading him to the raptors for a 1st round pick once is doing it again

[Ariel]

Giving up picks for a marginal one year improvement in backup PG doesn't make sense. Just keep Graham.
You're right, that may keep us out of entering the Guinness World Records for most 2nd round picks ever held by an NBA team. My bad.

[poopbox]

Pelicans just declined Herb Jones option to make him a restricted free agent. They have tax issues also.

Might be a target worth overpaying a bit for?

We should be all over this. Has DPOY potential.

Put him on the floor with Wemby and we might have a top 10 defense in year one.

[cutewizard]

I like Herb Jones

[DesignatedT]

Pels will match whatever is thrown at Jones.

[spurraider21]

Pels will match whatever is thrown at Jones.
Yep

[Dverde]

Leaks saying Heat offering Vincent 7-8M per year. He’s going to get offered more than that by others.

[SpursFan86]

Blazers waived Trendon Watford. Could we claim him?

[lmbebo]

Yep


He's restriced. They said he may get 4 years at $12 million/yr.

[DPG21920]

Yep

That’s cool. Spurs don’t have to worry about missing out on any FA by throwing offers out. So force NO and LA to pay the most they humanly can IMO

[spurraider21]

:wow

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[CGD]

^ is he credible?

[Extra Stout]

So Trevor Lane reads Spurstalk

[Mr. Body]

Every wag has been pointing to the Spurs as the team likely to run for Reaves. No one else is likely or can.

But there's no reason to go for him and tie yourself up. They're already going to match.

[spurraider21]

Every wag has been pointing to the Spurs as the team likely to run for Reaves. No one else is likely or can.

But there's no reason to go for him and tie yourself up. They're already going to match.
well if we're resigned to just giving our bottom bench guys raises anyway and not making any eXpeNsiVe MiStAkEs then theres no risk to temporarily tying up cap space

[TekXX]

Of course i would love if the Spurs offered the 100m contract to Reeves just for the trolling aspect but i don't think the Spurs will do that.

[Mr. Body]

well if we're resigned to just giving our bottom bench guys raises anyway and not making any eXpeNsiVe MiStAkEs then theres no risk to temporarily tying up cap space

Man you guys freak the fuck out when the possibility of losing out on Reaves comes up.

[Mr. Body]

Of course i would love if the Spurs offered the 100m contract to Reeves just for the trolling aspect but i don't think the Spurs will do that.

The risk is you're paying gobs of money for a player who isn't actually worth it.

I remember somebody talking about not making big costly mistakes

[spurraider21]

Man you guys freak the fuck out when the possibility of losing out on Reaves comes up.
thats Mr. Arkansas Dreamboat to you

i get annoyed by a failure to attempt to make improvements. whether its Reaves, BroLo, etc

we did nothing with our cap space last year. didnt rent it for picks the way we could have. didnt do the joe harris thing that detroit just did. if we're just going to sit on cap space and overpay Tre Jones, then yeah i'll be frustrated

[TekXX]

The risk is you're paying gobs of money for a player who isn't actually worth it.

I remember somebody talking about not making big costly mistakes

It's been claimed the Lakers will match that high but i guess even if they don't we'd have a decent player who knows how to take advantage of what's given to him. Our cheap owners will have to bite the bullet one day and make a "costly mistake" because most of the league is overpaid in my book.

[BillMc]

I am sure this has been discussed and I just missed it, but what about Bruce Brown? The Nuggets can't afford to keep him, the Spurs need to reach the floor, he's solid and smart. What is not to love? I mean he's meeting with the Rockets, so being on a contender clearly isn't mandatory.

[Mr. Body]

It's been claimed the Lakers will match that high but i guess even if they don't we'd have a decent player who knows how to take advantage of what's given to him. Our cheap owners will have to bite the bullet one day and make a "costly mistake" because most of the league is overpaid in my book.

It's even worse to make a big costly mistake just because other teams are doing it. It's weird to make excuses for when big costly mistakes are okay. They're never okay.

[Extra Stout]

I feel like, with just a couple of exceptions over the past 15 years, every offseason juxtaposes the fervent speculation in the forum about all the offseason moves the Spurs are bound to make in free agency and trades against the annual dry fart of the team’s relative inaction.

[TekXX]

I feel like, with just a couple of exceptions over the past 15 years, every offseason juxtaposes the fervent speculation in the forum about all the offseason moves the Spurs are bound to make in free agency and trades against the annual dry fart of the team’s relative inaction.

Too many costly mistakes to be had - Holt LLC

[objective]

The key question is what exactly constitutes a costly mistake in their minds?

This front office wrecked themselves with Pau and Patty. Patty was such a disaster that he openly talked that first year after the big contract that he didn't need to perform up to the money, because it was owed to him for past perceived under payment. Overpaying their own guys isn't something they look down on.

The same front office got wrecked by Marcus Morris, which was a costly mistake.

DeMarre Carroll and his cement shoes were a huge mistake. Primo's dead salary is a huge mistake.

An absurd deal for Tre Jones would not surprise me.

[slick'81]

The key question is what exactly constitutes a costly mistake in their minds?

This front office wrecked themselves with Pau and Patty. Patty was such a disaster that he openly talked that first year after the big contract that he didn't need to perform up to the money, because it was owed to him for past perceived under payment. Overpaying their own guys isn't something they look down on.

The same front office got wrecked by Marcus Morris, which was a costly mistake.

DeMarre Carroll and his cement shoes were a huge mistake. Primo's dead salary is a huge mistake.

An absurd deal for Tre Jones would not surprise me.


an absurd deal could definitely be patty esque

[rjv]

i see it as more of an annual emergence of a plethora of posters who somehow never landed jobs as general managers or scouts.

[sfernald]

Ivica Zubac is supposedly on the trading block. Think he would make the perfect center to place next to Wemby. Hopefully Spurs are making a call over to the Clippers for him!

[Mr. Peabody]

If anything, make the Pels pay more to keepHerb Jones. It’s worth a shot.

[Extra Stout]

i see it as more of an annual emergence of a plethora of posters who somehow never landed jobs as general managers or scouts.
A dry fart is better than a wet fart. Although they’ve had their share of those too.

[exstatic]

Every wag has been pointing to the Spurs as the team likely to run for Reaves. No one else is likely or can.

But there's no reason to go for him and tie yourself up. They're already going to match.

So, why not, if they will match and all you're going to do is rent the space later anyway? It's not like they can tie up our cap all summer. They have 48 hours to match or not.

[T Park]

So, why not, if they will match and all you're going to do is rent the space later anyway? It's not like they can tie up our cap all summer. They have 48 hours to match or not.


exactly, If they match, make it the most expensive it can be, and kill their financial decision making later/

Make things tougher on em, why make things easier for them?

[sfernald]

Jaxson Hayes as free agent might be worth taking a small shot on. Maybe he can bulk up a little and be the enforcer next to Wemby? I do like his athleticism. Maybe the spurs can do something with him?

[scott]

Costly mistakes only become so when they don't work out. Whether it is signing a free agent, or giving away a bundle of draft picks in order to take a swing at a late lottery pick... all of these things have the potential to be costly mistakes, but at some point you've got to take a swing and hope you connect.

[Mr. Body]

Costly mistakes only become so when they don't work out. Whether it is signing a free agent, or giving away a bundle of draft picks in order to take a swing at a late lottery pick... all of these things have the potential to be costly mistakes, but at some point you've got to take a swing and hope you connect.

Not what they mean by costly mistakes. Blowing a 2nd round pick isn't a big deal. Blowing a 1st round pick, a bigger deal. Spnding $20 million a year for four years on a bad player, costly mistake.

[scott]

Not what they mean by costly mistakes. Blowing a 2nd round pick isn't a big deal. Blowing a 1st round pick, a bigger deal. Spnding $20 million a year for four years on a bad player, costly mistake.

Blowing 3+ FRPs to trade for a first rounder who doesn't pan out would be a costly mistake.

Spending 4/80 on a bad player, also a costly mistake.

Trading 3+ FRPs for a first rounder who becomes an all star is a good move.

Spending 4/80 on a player who becomes a key player (Keldon level or better) is a good move.

[spurraider21]

these days it just costs a couple of SRPs to get off 20 mil, and the spurs have a warchest full of SRPs

[Mr. Body]

these days it just costs a couple of SRPs to get off 20 mil, and the spurs have a warchest full of SRPs

"Let's go drink and drive. We have other cars."

[Obstructed_View]

exactly, If they match, make it the most expensive it can be, and kill their financial decision making later/

Make things tougher on em, why make things easier for them?
It used to be like 9 days, right? It is still costly if all the free agents are gone by the time they match.

[spurraider21]

"Let's go drink and drive. We have other cars."
we're already in the process of selling cars in exchange for cars that are collectively less valuable (see the #33 trade)

[kobyz]

can we land both Austin Reaves and Grant Williams at reasonable price and years with how free agency played out thus far?

[mo7888]

can we land both Austin Reaves and Grant Williams at reasonable price and years with how free agency played out thus far?

No