Real 9-11 Research

[Nbadan]

the former.

I never claimed United 175 disintegrated the way it should have giving the operational limits of the plane, that's the problem...either this plane was one of the lucky ones, another 9/11 Coincidink, that stayed structurally sound after operating in a death- fall at speeds well above its operational limits or it was a modified plane...either way, very, very difficult to pull out from for an inexperienced pilot...

[Nbadan]

What part of "they only flew at those speeds for a few seconds" is wrong? I am talking about the speeds outside the regular operational limits.

Be specific.

Chucky, that's misleading, the pilots flew the planes without GPS, without transponders to set course corrrections for hundreds of miles

[ChumpDumper]

I never claimed United 175 disintegrated the way it should have giving the operational limits of the plane, that's the problem...either this plane was one of the lucky ones, another 9/11 Coincidink, that stayed structurally sound after operating in a death- fall at speeds well above its operational limits or it was a modified plane...either way, very, very difficult to pull out from for an inexperienced pilot...Former means EA990. 175 would be the latter.

[ChumpDumper]

Chucky, that's misleading, the pilots flew the planes without GPS, without transponders to set course corrrections for hundreds of milesSo you agree that they only flew at the speeds above operational limits for a few seconds?

Yes or no.

Let's take it one step at a time.

[Nbadan]

There is no precedent in the history of aviation, either before or after September 11th, 2001, for controlled flight without loss of structural integrity for this aircraft type (commercial airliner) occurring at such an airspeed, including those aircraft that entered into uncontrolled dives while suffering structural failure....."flight 175" exceeded those dive speeds in perfect control and without suffering any structural failure at an airspeed of 85-100+ knots FASTER than those out-of-control diving, plummeting planes.....

[Nbadan]

is it any wonder that celebrated airman John Lear of Lear Jet fame has managed to convince himself that there could be no plane there, at all, which is of course absurd, but how and why the most certified pilot on the planet would arrive at such a conclusion is very telling....

John Lear's affidavit, 2008

"
The alleged NIST speed of 443 mph (385 kts,) for American Airlines Flight 11 would be technically achievable. However the NIST speed of 542 mph (470 kts) for United Airlines Flight 175 which is 50 kts. above VD is not commensurate with and/or possible, considering:

(1) the power available,***

(2) parasite drag (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators)

(3) parasite power (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators)

(4) the controllability by a pilot with limited experience. 14 CFR Part 25.253 (a)(B)

Therefore the speed of the aircraft, that hit the World Trade Center, as represented by NIST, particularly that of United Airlines Flight 175 is fraudulent and could not have occurred."

Lear's theory that there was no plane involved in the attacks is absurd, but it illustrates the difficulty in making such as move for any pilot, much less an inexperienced pilot...

[ChumpDumper]

So you agree that they only flew at the speeds above operational limits for a few seconds?

Yes or no.

Let's take it one step at a time.

[Nbadan]

There is no precedent in the history of aviation, either before or after September 11th, 2001, for controlled flight without loss of structural integrity for this aircraft type (commercial airliner) occurring at such an airspeed, including those aircraft that entered into uncontrolled dives while suffering structural failure....."flight 175" exceeded those dive speeds in perfect control and without suffering any structural failure at an airspeed of 85-100+ knots FASTER than those out-of-control diving, plummeting planes.....

[ChumpDumper]

There is no precedent in the history of aviation, either before or after September 11th, 2001, for controlled flight without loss of structural integrity for this aircraft type (commercial airliner) occurring at such an airspeed, including those aircraft that entered into uncontrolled dives while suffering structural failure....."flight 175" exceeded those dive speeds in perfect control and without suffering any structural failure at an airspeed of 85-100+ knots FASTER than those out-of-control diving, plummeting planes.....dan, how long was each plane flying above its operational limit?

5 seconds?

5 minutes?

5 hours?

How long?

And China Airlines 006 suffered damage but was able to be flown and landed after an uncontrolled dive that took it well above its operational limit.

[Nbadan]

Chumpy doesn't like it when people don't play his game....his only fallback is always to try and pigeon hole people into one position or another, I don't know whether flights AA11 and United 175 were the planes that actually hit the WTC towers, maybe they were, maybe they weren't, right now my only argument is that it would have been very difficult for inexperienced pilots to fly these planes the way they did...

[Nbadan]

dan, how long was each plane flying above its operational limit?

5 seconds?

5 minutes?

5 hours?

How long?

And China Airlines 006 suffered damage but was able to be flown and landed after an uncontrolled dive that took it well above its operational limit.

There is no precedent in the history of aviation, either before or after September 11th, 2001, for controlled flight without loss of structural integrity for this aircraft type (commercial airliner) occurring at such an airspeed, including those aircraft that entered into uncontrolled dives while suffering structural failure....."flight 175" exceeded those dive speeds in perfect control and without suffering any structural failure at an airspeed of 85-100+ knots FASTER than those out-of-control diving, plummeting planes.....

[ChumpDumper]

There is no precedent in the history of aviation, either before or after September 11th, 2001, for controlled flight without loss of structural integrity for this aircraft type (commercial airliner) occurring at such an airspeed, including those aircraft that entered into uncontrolled dives while suffering structural failure....."flight 175" exceeded those dive speeds in perfect control and without suffering any structural failure at an airspeed of 85-100+ knots FASTER than those out-of-control diving, plummeting planes.....China 006 was still flyable, still landable.

You are trying to make it sound like a plane will always completely break apart if it exceeds its operational limit speed.

That is false. China 006 is proof.

Besides, no one has even thought of a reason to use the super special planes you are trying to sell here.

There is no evidence whatsoever that anything but the four regular airliners were used in the attacks.

None.

[Nbadan]

China 006 was still flyable, still landable.

You are trying to make it sound like a plane will always completely break apart if it exceeds its operational limit speed.

That is false. China 006 is proof.

Where was the structural damage to United 175 again? And you think any inexperienced pilot can pull a multi-engine plane out of a death fall, seriously?

:lol

[Nbadan]

Besides, no one has even thought of a reason to use the super special planes you are trying to sell here.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Where was the structural damage to United 175 again?All over lower Manhattan.
And you think any inexperienced pilot can pull a multi-engine plane out of a death fall, seriously?

:lolNo planes were pulled out of death falls during 9/11. That was the point.


:lolWhat is your reason to use the super special planes you are trying to sell here?

Why use anything but the regular airliners that were hijacked on 9/11?

Speak up.

[RandomGuy]

Looks like this thread is still needed.

Doubt Cosmored will bother with reading any of the links in the OP though.

[RandomGuy]

But each floor of the building was ultimately designed to resist support the weight of the structure above it.

This weight would be equal, by definition to ONE mass regardless of whether that mass was one gram or a million tonnes. So the underlying structure can hold ONE mass plus a safety factor of some sort.

That safety factor can be thought of in terms of the mass of the building.

If you assume that safety factor is 200%, then ultimately if the building collapse begins at the 90th floor out of 110, the lower 90 floors could support a structure weighing twice what the upper 20 floors would weigh.

This is the relative forces involved.

The simple physics here shows that the collapse about 25-30 floors down applies a dynamic force to the floor below it of about 29+ times that of the stationary mass.

Meaning that if the truthers are to be believed, the 80 floors below the collapsing section could have easily supported a safety factor of 2900% of the stationary mass.

Follow this logically and apply that to the 30 floors, 30*29, and you get a building that could have conceivedly been almost a thousand stories tall.

Since I have yet to see, even 40 years after the initial construction of the WTC towers, a building that is two miles high, I think it is a safe assumption that the safety factor was much less than 2900%.

In my calculations I ALWAYS gave favorable assumptions to the truther movement, and there was still more than enough force to ultimately collapse the buildng.

"free fall debunked".

For NBADan

[RandomGuy]

:lol

Bam.

Nbadan

Nbadan

Nbadan

[RandomGuy]

dan, the thing to think about is the theory you probably don't know you are now trying to sell here.

You are now saying that no 757s or 767s were used in the attacks.

What are you now saying was used in the attacks, dan?

Dan never answered this.... did he?

[RandomGuy]

Yearly bump.

Because some people think I like conspiracy theories. Evidence to the contrary.

[TeyshaBlue]

We need a chump conspiracy.

[DarrinS]

We need a chump conspiracy.

Dude just disappeared

[DarrinS]

Where TF is Winehole?

[RandomGuy]

There were no hijackers. The US government did it. The proof is crushing.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261123&p=8610878&viewfull=1#post8610878

Just ignore the shills* everyone.


*
(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261123&p=8610878&viewfull=1#post8610878)http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
https://openheartedrebel.com/2012/09/26/disinformation-campaign-exposure-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-poster/

Holy crap. You're still here?

[RandomGuy]

Where TF is Winehole?

Not sure. Hope he is ok.

[Pavlov]

The real mystery is where did three of my posts go?

[RandomGuy]

Do your research dabomb

[Spurtacular]

BIGGEST SPERM SHIELD THREAD OF ALL-TIME :lmao

[Pavlov]

BIGGEST SPERM SHIELD THREAD OF ALL-TIME :lmaoWhat do you think really happened on 9/11?

[RandomGuy]

BIGGEST SPERM SHIELD THREAD OF ALL-TIME :lmao

oooh. Derision and a smiley. Never seen that before.

Guess you aren't going to try to up your game.

Lazy.

Lazy.

Lazy.

[RandomGuy]

Let the flaming begin. :hungry:

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:

Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

Which is it mouse/galileo/whoever?

[Pavlov]

The best thing about truthers is that they just go about their day, paying taxes to and obeying laws of the government they said murdered its own people and destroyed a huge chunk of lower Manhattan. If they think they are some kind of patriots for being truthers, they are super Quislings for not taking up arms against the government they say murdered their citizens.

[RandomGuy]

The best thing about truthers is that they just go about their day, paying taxes to and obeying laws of the government they said murdered its own people and destroyed a huge chunk of lower Manhattan. If they think they are some kind of patriots for being truthers, they are super Quislings for not taking up arms against the government they say murdered their citizens.

i.e. Lazy. :lol

[Spurtacular]

oooh. Derision and a smiley. Never seen that before.

Guess you aren't going to try to up your game.

Lazy.

Lazy.

Lazy.

At least my game ain't make-believe / sperm shielding. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

The best thing about truthers is that they just go about their day, paying taxes to and obeying laws of the government they said murdered its own people and destroyed a huge chunk of lower Manhattan. If they think they are some kind of patriots for being truthers, they are super Quislings for not taking up arms against the government they say murdered their citizens.

So, any time there's govt corruption we're supposed to commit suicide by cop? :lol

[Spurtacular]

The best thing about truthers is that they just go about their day, paying taxes to and obeying laws of the government they said murdered its own people and destroyed a huge chunk of lower Manhattan. If they think they are some kind of patriots for being truthers, they are super Quislings for not taking up arms against the government they say murdered their citizens.

Do you think truthers have that moral obligation? Well, that explain your cowardice in sperm shielding for the government, then. You don't want to be a number. :lol

[Pavlov]

So, any time there's govt corruption we're supposed to commit suicide by cop? :lolYou think the government's murdering thousands of people and destroying much of lower Manhattan is just run-of-the-mill corruption?

:lmao

Pay your taxes like a good boy.

[Pavlov]

Do you think truthers have that moral obligation? Well, that explain your cowardice in sperm shielding for the government, then. You don't want to be a number. :lolNope. It's jes a little corruption. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

You think the government's murdering thousands of people and destroying much of lower Manhattan is just run-of-the-mill corruption?

:lmao

Pay your taxes like a good boy.

Sperm shield like a good little cuck.

[Pavlov]

Sperm shield like a good little cuck.:lol you can't even bring yourself to say what you think really happened on 9/11.

What are you afraid of? The government isn't going to murder you over a little corruption. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lol you can't even bring yourself to say what you think really happened on 9/11.

What are you afraid of? The government isn't going to murder you over a little corruption. :lmao

What I can't do is accept that nonsensical explanation of 9/11 that the govt. touts to appease morons like you.

[Pavlov]

What I can't do is accept that nonsensical explanation of 9/11 that the govt. touts to appease morons like you.So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[DarrinS]

I've been watching Road to 9/11 on the History channel. Missed a golden opportunity to take out bin Laden early on and possibly avoid 9/11 and years upon years of pointless wars.

[Spurtacular]

I've been watching Road to 9/11 on the History channel. Missed a golden opportunity to take out bin Laden early on and possibly avoid 9/11 and years upon years of pointless wars.

He was a CIA asset. They were never going to take him out; well, not til Obama needed to murder him to boost his re-election chances. Even Bush gave the order to stand down at Tora Bora.

[RandomGuy]

BIGGEST SPERM SHIELD THREAD OF ALL-TIME :lmao


oooh. Derision and a smiley. Never seen that before.

Guess you aren't going to try to up your game.

Lazy.

Lazy.


At least my game ain't make-believe / sperm shielding. :lmao

Derision. Smiley.


Don't strain yourself. Do it some more, monkey.

Funny is that you try even less than the dipwads who came before you a decade ago. It's like watching a low-budget sequel to a shitty movie.

[RandomGuy]

I've been watching Road to 9/11 on the History channel. Missed a golden opportunity to take out bin Laden early on and possibly avoid 9/11 and years upon years of pointless wars.

We simply did not take him seriously enough. It was endemic to how the military and intelligence thought before 9-11.

A threat, but not a serious one.

[Spurtacular]

Derision. Smiley.


Don't strain yourself. Do it some more, monkey.

Funny is that you try even less than the dipwads who came before you a decade ago. It's like watching a low-budget sequel to a shitty movie.

Does the govt. pay you to sperm shield for them, or do we just have idiots that are this committed to blatant falsities?

[RandomGuy]

BIGGEST SPERM SHIELD THREAD OF ALL-TIME :lmao


oooh. Derision and a smiley. Never seen that before.

Guess you aren't going to try to up your game.

Lazy.

Lazy.


At least my game ain't make-believe / sperm shielding. :lmao


Derision. Smiley.


Don't strain yourself. Do it some more, monkey.

Funny is that you try even less than the dipwads who came before you a decade ago. It's like watching a low-budget sequel to a shitty movie.



Does the govt. pay you to sperm shield for them, or do we just have idiots that are this committed to blatant falsities?

So you changed it up to just derision. Too lazy for the smiley.

Do it some more.

[Nbadan]

He was a CIA asset. They were never going to take him out; well, not til Obama needed to murder him to boost his re-election chances. Even Bush gave the order to stand down at Tora Bora.

Not to mention how some of the hijackers got into the US in the first place....some fought in Chechnya...many on terror and watch lists..the US government may not have been directly responsible for 911, or it may have, but nobody can deny that the US government, and more specifically the Bush Administration, was negligently responsible for enabling the attacks by letting our guard down despite warnings by the Clinton Administration and various foreign governments and intelligence agencies..

[Nbadan]

The real mystery is where did three of my posts go?

Chucky....he's still around....

[Nbadan]

Where TF is Winehole?

Winehole is taking a well deserved break....he'll be back someday..

[Chris]

Thermite

[Spurtacular]

So you changed it up to just derision. Too lazy for the smiley.

Do it some more.

All the same, you do realize you're the type of idiot and more that the govt. hopes for, right?

[RandomGuy]

All the same, you do realize you're the type of idiot and more that the govt. hopes for, right?

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:

Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy


IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

Which is it mouse/galileo/whoever?

[RandomGuy]

All the same, you do realize you're the type of idiot and more that the govt. hopes for, right?

All the same, they count on you more. You know the truth about a mass murder, and all you do is post smileys on the internet.

I have looked over the evidence in great detail after talking with people who present your (half) theory for over a decade.

You don't have a working, testable theory. I have tried to flesh out a working theory for the "government did it" crowd, and it always fails spectacularly.

Ever heard of Donning-Kruger?

[Spurtacular]

All the same, they count on you more. You know the truth about a mass murder, and all you do is post smileys on the internet.

I have looked over the evidence in great detail after talking with people who present your (half) theory for over a decade.

You don't have a working, testable theory. I have tried to flesh out a working theory for the "government did it" crowd, and it always fails spectacularly.

Ever heard of Donning-Kruger?

Are you saying you have Donning-Kruger?

I can buy that.

Seriously, you couldn't sperm shield any harder for the government.

[Pavlov]

905611123394793472

[Spurtacular]

905611123394793472

Why does this matter?

[Pavlov]

Why does this matter?You're pretty much Inforwars.

[Spurtacular]

You're pretty much Inforwars.

So, your petulant snipes matter?

[Pavlov]

So, your petulant snipes matter?

:lol they seem to have an effect.

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

:lol they seem to have an effect.


Everything has an effect. What is this effect of which you speak?

[Pavlov]

Everything has an effect. What is this effect of which you speak?Your reaction.

Let's move on. What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Your reaction.

And what do you perceive to be my reaction?

[Pavlov]

And what do you perceive to be my reaction?Your posts.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Your posts.

That's far from a definitive answer. You continue to have a problem with making substantive claims.

[Pavlov]

That's far from a definitive answer. You continue to have a problem with making substantive claims.You continue to have a problem saying what you think really happened on 9/11.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Pavlov

Relevance of the kid yelling profanities. Still waiting, bro.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov

Relevance of the kid yelling profanities. Still waiting, bro.Its mission has been accomplished.

[Spurtacular]

Its mission has been accomplished.

What mission?

[Pavlov]

What mission?


Why does this matter?


So, your petulant snipes matter?


Everything has an effect. What is this effect of which you speak?


And what do you perceive to be my reaction?


That's far from a definitive answer. You continue to have a problem with making substantive claims.


Pavlov

Relevance of the kid yelling profanities. Still waiting, bro.

[Spurtacular]

Pavlov

Me asking questions about your nonsensical post is the reason you feel a need to post a video of a child swearing?

[Pavlov]

Pavlov

Me asking questions about your nonsensical post is the reason you feel a need to post a video of a child swearing?I posted it to get a rise out of truthers.

You're a truther.

Mission accomplished.

[Spurtacular]

I posted it to get a rise out of truthers.

You're a truther.

Mission accomplished.

And the mere fact that I would inquire about its relevance is "getting a rise" out of me?

[Pavlov]

And the mere fact that I would inquire about its relevance is "getting a rise" out of me?And everything after, yep.

[Spurtacular]

And everything after, yep.

That's pretty gimpy, dude. I think you're a hero in your own mind. The reality is that I've posted ZERO objection to the video. I have sought a reasonable explanation for the video, for which you haven't particularly given one.

[Pavlov]

That's pretty gimpy, dude. I think you're a hero in your own mind. The reality is that I've posted ZERO objection to the video. I have sought a reasonable explanation for the video, for which you haven't particularly given one.That's really too bad. Just killing time waiting for you to say what you think reallyhappened on 9/11.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

That's really too bad. Just killing time...

That's what your best at doing. Now, you actually posted the video irrespective of me. What would you seriously qualify the point of that posting to be?

[Pavlov]

That's what your best at doing. Now, you actually posted the video irrespective of me. What would you seriously qualify the point of that posting to be?
Asked and answered.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Asked and answered.


So, your answer is to get a confused "reaction"?

[Pavlov]

So, your answer is to get a confused "reaction"?
A truther reacted.

A truther usually ends up doing anything to avoid talking about 9/11 in 9/11 threads. Just like you do.

[Spurtacular]

A truther reacted.

A truther usually ends up doing anything to avoid talking about 9/11 in 9/11 threads. Just like you do.

I am a "truther". But I wasn't reacting based upon my feelings about 9/11. I wanted to know why you think a child cussing people out has relevance. Your best answer seems to be to allegedly antagonize me based on a tangent of what I believe.

[Pavlov]

I am a "truther". But I wasn't reacting based upon my feelings about 9/11. I wanted to know why you think a child cussing people out has relevance. Your best answer seems to be to allegedly antagonize me based on a tangent of what I believe.A truther reacted.

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

A truther reacted.

You could have posted a video about rainbow farts, and I might have "reacted" by wondering what your point is. But since you have a chronic problem explaining yourself, you seem to think that a child cussing at a "truther" network is supposed to put me in some sort of disarray?

[Pavlov]

You could have posted a video about rainbow farts, and I might have "reacted" by wondering what your point is. But since you have a chronic problem explaining yourself, you seem to think that a child cussing at a "truther" network is supposed to put me in some sort of disarray?A truther reacted. And still won't say what he thinks really happened on 9/11.

[Spurtacular]

A truther reacted.

And what is the value of this docile "reaction".

[Pavlov]

And what is the value of this docile "reaction".

Getting a truther to call himself docIle is worth it. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Getting a truther to call himself docIle is worth it. :lol

I said the reaction was docile. In other words, it did not get my ire up. That's the only value, then? So, your post was pretty much worthless.

[Pavlov]

I said the reaction was docile. In other words, it did not get my ire up. That's the only value, then? So, your post was pretty much worthless.That's a truther's opinion.

[Spurtacular]

That's a truther's opinion.

Reality, too.

[Pavlov]

Reality, too.Truthers don't deal well with reality. Watch.

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Truthers don't deal well with reality.

Kind of sad that you had to pussyfoot around it, too. :lol

You could've just said Infowars are truthers and I'm posting a fuck 'em video.

Why couldn't you just do that? Could it be that you were ashamed to be so low brow?

[Pavlov]

Kind of sad that you had to pussyfoot around it, too. :lol

You could've just said Infowars are truthers and I'm posting a fuck 'em video.

Why couldn't you just do that? Could it be that you were ashamed to be so low brow?
Truthers are pretty much the scum of the earth. Haven't seen one that isn't a piece of shit, so I don't mind posting a girl telling one off. I think it's funny.

[Spurtacular]

Truthers are pretty much the scum of the earth. Haven't seen one that isn't a piece of shit, so I don't mind posting a girl telling one off. I think it's funny.

I would be more inclined to say a person propagating foul behavior by children to be the scum of the earth than say, people calling out a corrupt govt; that is if I had to choose between the two.

[Pavlov]

I would be more inclined to say a person propagating foul behavior by children to be the scum of the earth than say, people calling out a corrupt govt; that is if I had to choose between the two.
Nope. Truthers are worse. You are worse.

[Spurtacular]

Nope. Truthers are worse. You are worse.

Well, I guess a gimp making judgments against me is something I can well live with, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Well, I guess a gimp making judgments against me is something I can well live with, tbh.Okay, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

Okay, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

I've said more than once that what I know didn't happen is the govt. version of events. Everything else should be investigated. As you might say, "I'd support that."

[Pavlov]

I've said more than once that what I know didn't happen is the govt. version of events. Everything else should be investigated. As you might say, "I'd support that."You didn't say what you think really happened on 9/11.

[Spurtacular]

You didn't say what you think really happened on 9/11.

There are competing theories. The govt. has not allowed the full truth to come out. How am I supposed to say, given that?

[Pavlov]

There are competing theories. The govt. has not allowed the full truth to come out. How am I supposed to say, given that?
Because it's what you think really happened on 9/11. Which competing theories do you consider the most likely?

[Spurtacular]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8a/58/dc/8a58dc27d5307d9f765dddb8f0c7ca35--conspiracy-theories-illuminati-conspiracy.jpg

[DarrinS]

No use arguing with a cult member. Don't know why Chump wastes his time.

[Pavlov]

Eh, it's fun because they never, ever say what they think really happened on 9/11.

[Spurtacular]

Eh, it's fun because they never, ever say what they think really happened on 9/11.

The things you convince yourself of. :lmao

[Pavlov]

The things you convince yourself of. :lmaoOK, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[RandomGuy]

Eh, it's fun because they never, ever say what they think really happened on 9/11.



[derision][smiley]

That doesn't look like an answer.

You are boring even for a troll. Jeez.

[RandomGuy]

[irrelevant meme]

ooh Changeup. Don't strain yourself.

[RandomGuy]

All the same, they count on you more. You know the truth about a mass murder, and all you do is post smileys on the internet.

I have looked over the evidence in great detail after talking with people who present your (half) theory for over a decade.

You don't have a working, testable theory. I have tried to flesh out a working theory for the "government did it" crowd, and it always fails spectacularly.

Ever heard of Donning-Kruger?




Are you saying you have Donning-Kruger?
[derision].

The height of irony. Someone with no critical thinking skills, accusing someone else of having "Donning-Kruger".

That is comedy gold.

[RandomGuy]

You could have posted a video about rainbow farts, and I might have "reacted" by wondering what your point is. But since you have a chronic problem explaining yourself, you seem to think that a child cussing at a "truther" network is supposed to put me in some sort of disarray?

More irony.

Chumpy has a point. All you have is sticking your fingers in your ears going "la-la-la" Plenty of evidence for the official explanation.

None for yours, if you even have an explanation, which is kind of obvious at this point that you don't.

Fairly easy to show that. Keep waffling.

[Pavlov]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8a/58/dc/8a58dc27d5307d9f765dddb8f0c7ca35--conspiracy-theories-illuminati-conspiracy.jpg:lol no-planer quote attribution

[boutons_deux]

:lol no-planer quote attribution

https://www.quora.com/Did-CIA-Director-William-Casey-really-say-Well-know-our-disinformation-program-is-complete-when-everything-the-American-public-believes-is-false

[Splits]

Happy 9-11 day everyone

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJcccWvW0AEexil.jpg

:cry never forget :cry

[boutons_deux]

Happy 9-11 day everyone



:cry never forget :cry

Never forget that the despicable, deplorable, venal Repugs exploited this Muslim payback to invade Iraq for oil and thereby destroy the Middle East.

Did any of y'all imperial super-patriots forget THAT? figgers

[Spurtacular]

"Donning-Kruger".

You brought it up. I think it's actually quite accurate in your case funnily enough.

[Spurtacular]

Someone with no critical thinking skills.

Yes, you should work on developing those skills. Then you won't have to buy blatant falsities that the government tells you and post the same quotes over and over.

[Spurtacular]

More irony.

Chumpy has a point. All you have is sticking your fingers in your ears going "la-la-la" Plenty of evidence for the official explanation.

None for yours, if you even have an explanation, which is kind of obvious at this point that you don't.

Fairly easy to show that. Keep waffling.

That wasn't his point at all, irony boy.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.quora.com/Did-CIA-Director-William-Casey-really-say-Well-know-our-disinformation-program-is-complete-when-everything-the-American-public-believes-is-false

:lmao This link actually attributes the origination of the quote and says it couldn't have happened because it was part of a conversation on social media. You guys deny everything in the name of govt.

[Pavlov]

That wasn't his point at all, irony boy.My point was pretty much what she said, which is pretty much what RG said.


:lmao This link actually attributes the origination of the quote and says it couldn't have happened because it was part of a conversation on social media. You guys deny everything in the name of govt.She said which reporter she told it to but I see nothing of her reporting it and that reporter is conveniently dead. Also the woman who claimed to have heard it is a no-planer.

In short: :lol.

[Spurtacular]

She said which reporter she told it to but I see nothing of her reporting it and that reporter is conveniently dead. Also the woman who claimed to have heard it is a no-planer.

In short: :lol.

A bunch of she's w/o proper attribution. We went over clarity, bro.

[Pavlov]

A bunch of she's w/o proper attribution. We went over clarity, bro.No planer :lol

BTW, what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

No planer :lol

No clarity, bro.

[Pavlov]

No clarity, bro.What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Pavlov]

:lmao

906150197494992896

Never f:cryrget.

[Spurtacular]

906150197494992896



Thanks for posting something that isn't fake news, bro.

[Pavlov]

Thanks for posting something that isn't fake news, bro.What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Axl Rose]

I've been doing some 9/11 research and find out that Pavlov is confirmed 100% to be chumpdumper

[RandomGuy]

Yes, you should work on developing those skills. Then you won't have to buy blatant falsities that the government tells you and post the same quotes over and over.

:sleep

[RandomGuy]

That wasn't his point at all, irony boy.

(shrugs) it was, and he agreed it was. Wrong again.

At this point, I have a new theory.

You don't really believe this at all. You know that the official story is accurate, and your only purpose here is trolling. This is why you don't post what you think actually happened.


Not having a specific idea as to what really happened is a huge red flag indicating this is the case.

Every time you use [derision][smiley], or [derision], that simply provides more evidence of this theory, albeit circumstantial.

Now, provide me some more evidence. :monkey

[RandomGuy]

Thanks for posting something that isn't fake news, bro.

Holy shit... two years later...still no take.

That's funny.

I will stick to my theory then.

You don't really believe this at all. You know that the official story is accurate, and your only purpose here is trolling. This is why you don't post what you think actually happened.

[RandomGuy]

Let the flaming begin. :hungry:

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:

Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

Which is it spurtacular/galileo/whoever?

[TheGreatYacht]

https://youtu.be/pLWIV0TTcbI

The truth, nothing but the truth

[RandomGuy]

https://youtu.be/pLWIV0TTcbI

The truth, nothing but the truth

Not watching your toobs.

Summary?

Wait, let me guess, "it was the joos".

[RandomGuy]

Thermite

Note sure if serious. It would not surprise me if so.

[Spurtacular]

:lol CuckGuy triggered by Cosmored's truth thread.

[DMC]

I maintain that the government is too sloppy/stupid to pull off a covert act like that and keep it secret. They cannot even talk to Russia without being outed.

[RandomGuy]

I maintain that the government is too sloppy/stupid to pull off a covert act like that and keep it secret. They cannot even talk to Russia without being outed.

One thing we can both agree on.

[RandomGuy]

No clarity, bro.


Let’s do a quickie, common sense thought experiment to help understand what the “controlled demolition” theory is trying to say.

The controlled demolition theory rests on the following assumption: “the building was too strong to have collapsed from simple gravity”

Put another way “the building could easily absorb the energy of the falling section and not fully collapse”

Does this pass the common sense muster?

Let’s take an average guy off the street. He can hold a 100 pound bag over his head for a few minutes. Say he is balancing it on his head to make things simple. In terms of physics this means he is providing a force equal to gravity in order to hold this bag motionless.

This is what the lower 80 stories did for the upper 30 stories for 30 years before 9-11.

Now, one story is about 12.32 feet. The thirty floors started falling through the damaged sections, and at least one damaged, weakened floor gave way.

Take that bag away from our average guy and hold it 12.32 feet over his head. Now drop it on his head. What happens?

Ouch is right.

Let’s see how many pounds of force will be applied by that bag to the guy’s head.

KE is measured in joules. KE= ½* mass * velocity *velocity
First let’s convert to metric for ease of calculation.
Mass=45.36 kg http://manuelsweb.com/kg_lbs.htm
H = 12.32 feet = 3.65 meters http://www.saudia-online.com/conversion%20Table.htm
Ending velocity of bag= 8.45 meters/s http://tutor4physics.com/calculators.htm

KE= ½(45.36)(8.45)(8.45) = 1619 joules
Convert 1619 Joules back to food/pounds force a.k.a. weight = 598 http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/ccenrgy.htm (http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/ccenrgy.htm)

For the controlled demolition theory to be correct the guy’s head must be able to apply almost 598 foot/pounds of force to stop the bag after such a fall.

Is this reasonable? I think we can safely, and without the possibility of jail time for seriously injuring some poor test subject, conclude that it is not.

Maybe “Galileo” would like to put this theory’s primary assumption to the test with a 100 bag of bullshit?

The original Galileo was actually instrumental in noting that the rate of falling objects is not dependant on mass http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Smass.htm . Perhaps our modern, more retarded, version of the real scientist can contribute something to science and prove that his head can hold, even for a split second, an eleven hundred pound object.

Dan, or anyone else, please feel free to recheck my calculations here. I might have deliberately made a mistake just to see if you are really following along… ;)

[RandomGuy]

Cuck

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:
Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump is now part of derp's conspiracy theory since Trump is in on the cover up.

[RandomGuy]

Trump is now part of derp's conspiracy theory since Trump is in on the cover up.

(clutches) https://media1.tenor.com/images/49a7d05d43c0993f9cedccbe3f45420a/tenor.gif

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

:lol You got triggered on a word all the way back from June 2nd.

You might want to rethink your schtick.

[RandomGuy]

:lol You got triggered on a word all the way back from June 2nd.

You might want to rethink your schtick.

:lol Derp derp derp derp.

[RandomGuy]

Bump, because koriwhat wants to take a crack at it now.

[ElNono]

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[ElNono]

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What a tosser. Everyone is a shill because this c unt says so.

[RandomGuy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/hhnpSxCjyXzHy/giphy.gif

:lol

[RandomGuy]

... and cue the anniversary.

Still no working theory from the asshats.

[Spurtacular]

:lol

[Spurtacular]

https://youtu.be/pLWIV0TTcbI

The truth, nothing but the truth

Youtube deleting truth. Par.

[Spurtacular]

... and cue the anniversary.

Still no working theory from the asshats.

No need for theories to appease you. Your government-backed conspiracy theory has been shot to hell.

[ChumpDumper]

... and cue the anniversary.

Still no working theory from the asshats.:lmao 20 years and absolutely nothing

[RandomGuy]

:lmao 20 years and absolutely nothing

Pretty much.

"derp derp derp government inside job derp"

[RandomGuy]

No need for theories to appease you. Your government-backed conspiracy theory has been shot to hell.

Let the flaming begin. :hungry:

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:

Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

Which is it mouse/galileo/whoever?

[Spurtacular]

Let the flaming begin. :hungry:

Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:

Think of the stupidest shit possible
Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bullshit
This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

THEREFORE:
IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

or

2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.
If there is no massive evil conspiracy then anybody who believes in ALL of the conspiracy theories is definitely too stupid to realize the conspiracy doesn't really exist.

Since no one can be part of something that doesn't exist, if you believe all the conspiracy theories/evidence, and the conspiracy doesn't exist you can't be lying and evil.

In either case it boils down to this:

If you say you believe in all of the conspiracy evidence, you MUST either be

1) A lying evil agent of the conspiracy

or

2) Too stupid to recognize obviously false information when you see it.

There are no other possibilities.

Which is it mouse/galileo/whoever?

Did you actually write all this spam this time?

[ChumpDumper]

Conspiracy dorks are quite comfortable with this government. Not one revolt due to 9/11. When you're not as dedicated as Trumptards, you're really a bunch of losers.

[Thread]

Conspiracy dorks are quite comfortable with this government. Not one revolt due to 9/11. When you're not as dedicated as Trumptards, you're really a bunch of losers.

We made President, by God, Dumps. Only 44 others have done it across 4 centuries. Though you're not vested in Biden, there's nothing twixt you and him cept an empty vessel to get at us. If he didn't wake up tomorrow you'd lose nary sleep. You'd just swear in the broad and go on same as before with another empty vessel.

I love President Trump with every ounce of my being. You'll never know that feeling, you poor thing, you.

[RandomGuy]

Did you actually write all this spam this time?

That isn't a theory, moron.

Pony up.

[Spurtacular]

That isn't a theory, moron.

Pony up.

So copy pasta again after all. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump administration's 'accidental disclosure' includes 'explosive' evidence of Saudi involvement in 9/11 attack

the administration of Donald Trump may have inadvertently bolstered the case of families still engaged in a lawsuit twenty years after the attack (https://theintercept.com/2021/09/11/september-11-saudi-arabia/).

there is a mounting pile of evidence of Saudi involvement with the terrorists who hijacked planes

and turned them into weapons after years of the U.S. government tamping down on such speculation.

"Two decades later, however, glimpses of material that have become public provide mounting evidence that

senior Saudi officials, including one diplomat in the Saudi Embassy in Washington, may in fact have indirectly provided assistance for two of the Al Qaeda hijackers,

Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who were the first of the hijackers to arrive in the United States in 2000 and lived for about a year and a half in San Diego beforehand.

a massive lawsuit filed in Manhattan by the families of 9/11 victims has been handed

"11,000 still-secret pages of internal documents from the U.S. government"

and "have deposed numerous Saudi witnesses to determine what they knew of the hijackers' plot, bolstering what they say is a trail of connections leading back to Riyadh."

https://www.rawstory.com/truimp-911

[Thread]

Trump administration's 'accidental disclosure' includes 'explosive' evidence of Saudi involvement in 9/11 attack

the administration of Donald Trump may have inadvertently bolstered the case of families still engaged in a lawsuit twenty years after the attack (https://theintercept.com/2021/09/11/september-11-saudi-arabia/).

there is a mounting pile of evidence of Saudi involvement with the terrorists who hijacked planes

and turned them into weapons after years of the U.S. government tamping down on such speculation.

"Two decades later, however, glimpses of material that have become public provide mounting evidence that

senior Saudi officials, including one diplomat in the Saudi Embassy in Washington, may in fact have indirectly provided assistance for two of the Al Qaeda hijackers,

Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who were the first of the hijackers to arrive in the United States in 2000 and lived for about a year and a half in San Diego beforehand.

a massive lawsuit filed in Manhattan by the families of 9/11 victims has been handed

"11,000 still-secret pages of internal documents from the U.S. government"

and "have deposed numerous Saudi witnesses to determine what they knew of the hijackers' plot, bolstering what they say is a trail of connections leading back to Riyadh."

https://www.rawstory.com/truimp-911




Good. Every scrap of paper needs to be laid upon the table TODAY, not [drip,drip,drip] for the next 60 years like the JFK shit.

All we got is MSM sweatin' over somebody whispering into Bush2's ear & Bush2 not running amok in front of the rug rats.

[Winehole23]

Will be interesting to see the (reportedly) soon to be declassified details about the role of KSA millionaires other than OBL.

[pgardn]

We made President, by God, Dumps. Only 44 others have done it across 4 centuries. Though you're not vested in Biden, there's nothing twixt you and him cept an empty vessel to get at us. If he didn't wake up tomorrow you'd lose nary sleep. You'd just swear in the broad and go on same as before with another empty vessel.

I love President Trump with every ounce of my being. You'll never know that feeling, you poor thing, you.

Oh the False idols.
Good luck begging when you see the pearly gates.
How are you going to explain you love Jesus, your lord, more than Trump.

The angst must be overwhelming now. Just wait till then.
- grim reaper

[Chad.]

Never forget......




















what happens when Masonic Jews take over your country

[Thread]

Oh the False idols.
Good luck begging when you see the pearly gates.
How are you going to explain you love Jesus, your lord, more than Trump.

The angst must be overwhelming now. Just wait till then.
- grim reaper

You're stuck with your Biden.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[pgardn]

You're stuck with your Biden.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Anyone else in 2020.
It worked 8 million strong.
He is gone and getting booed in Mississippi while giving mixed messages about a vaccine. Still.
You must enjoy the pain of the struggle.
Accept it and embrace it fully.
It will aide the death angst.

[Thread]

Anyone else in 2020.
It worked 8 million strong.
He is gone and getting booed in Mississippi while giving mixed messages about a vaccine. Still.
You must enjoy the pain of the struggle.
Accept it and embrace it fully.
It will aide the death angst.

He made President. Only 44 others have done that across 4 centuries. He'll be President forever, just like the 44 before him.

You? You're stuck with your Biden.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[pgardn]

He made President. Only 44 others have done that across 4 centuries. He'll be President forever, just like the 44 before him.

You? You're stuck with your Biden.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

As I was stuck with Trump.
It was an eye opener.
I realized how weak WE are. How ignorant WE are. How vengeance feeds some illogical need.
This is why you are so important to this board.

Im going to swim some laps and then bike.
What are you doing for some exercise today?

[Thread]

As I was stuck with Trump.
It was an eye opener.
I realized how weak WE are. How ignorant WE are. How vengeance feeds some illogical need.
This is why you are so important to this board.

Im going to swim some laps and then bike.
What are you doing for some exercise today?

I got to clean the house. Girl is coming home tonight.

My summer is over. tee, hee.

Have a good Saturday, peeg. You're Jake with me.

[Winehole23]

A new study released on Monday found that U.S. airstrikes during the two-decade-long post-9/11 wars have killed at least 22,679 civilians in seven countries throughout the greater Middle East.


According to Airwars (https://airwars.org/news-and-investigations/tens-of-thousands-of-civilians-likely-killed-by-us-in-forever-wars/), which tracks civilian casualties in conflict zones, the United States declared that it had conducted at least 91,340 strikes in those seven countries — Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen — and that as many as 48,308 civilians were killed as a result.


Airwars explains the difference in estimates as follows: “The gap between these two figures reflects the many unknowns when it comes to civilian harm in war. Belligerents rarely track the effects of their own actions – and even then do so poorly. It is left to local communities, civil society and international agencies to count the costs. Multiple sources can however suggest different numbers of fatalities, meaning that monitoring organisations like Airwars will record both minimum and maximum estimates.”


The group also says that it “has examined only direct harm from U.S. strikes since 9/11 — with many of our sources providing conservative casualty estimates. We are therefore looking at a fraction of the overall civilian harm in these countries.”
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/09/07/new-report-post-9-11-us-airstrikes-killed-upwards-of-48000-civilians/

[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/travisallen02/status/1436703854738001924?s=21

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/travisallen02/status/1436703854738001924?s=21

Re 911: How many presidents have called out the government malfeasance?

[Winehole23]

opportunity of a lifetime

1436746998003163142

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/travisallen02/status/1436703854738001924?s=21

Good.

Every fucking one of 'em tried to end Trump and still are.

One & all of 'em should go on back and fuck their respective mothers some more.
Chop/chop!!!

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/travisallen02/status/1436703854738001924?s=21

:lmao this is where this dude is

https://e3.365dm.com/21/09/768x432/skynews-donald-trump-presidency_5504536.jpg?20210908070633

#Priorities

[Thread]

:lmao this is where this dude is

https://e3.365dm.com/21/09/768x432/skynews-donald-trump-presidency_5504536.jpg?20210908070633

#Priorities

Good.

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/travisallen02/status/1436703854738001924?s=21

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?

[koriwhat]

https://e3.365dm.com/21/09/768x432/skynews-donald-trump-presidency_5504536.jpg?20210908070633

Hell yeah!

[ChumpDumper]

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?:lmao Trump wasn't at ground zero.

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Monostradamus]

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?
:lmao bro please tell me you’re joking. That TPUSA picture is very obviously photoshopped :lmao

[koriwhat]

:lmao bro please tell me you’re joking. That TPUSA picture is very obviously photoshopped :lmao

:lmao WTH are you even talking about? I am talking about 9/11 and Trump actually being there at ground zero. I have no clue what you're referring to but go ahead and assume I do. :lmao

[Monostradamus]

:lmao WTH are you even talking about? I am talking about 9/11 and Trump actually being there at ground zero. I have no clue what you're referring to but go ahead and assume I do. :lmao
Unauthorized personnel weren’t allowed anywhere close to Ground Zero so there’s zero chance he was down there helping anybody. And there’s actual verified accounts of war criminal Bush at Ground Zero because he was authorized to go in.

[Thread]

:lmao WTH are you even talking about? I am talking about 9/11 and Trump actually being there at ground zero. I have no clue what you're referring to but go ahead and assume I do. :lmao


Tell it, kori.

Testify!!!

[Winehole23]

IIRC, Trump bragged he had the tallest building in Manhattan on 9/11

[koriwhat]

Unauthorized personnel weren’t allowed anywhere close to Ground Zero so there’s zero chance he was down there helping anybody. And there’s actual verified accounts of war criminal Bush at Ground Zero because he was authorized to go in.

NYC bro... Maybe he wasn't in the debris per se but he did help out monetarily. I wasn't referring to the literal "Ground Zero" the news and others in the media refer to but the location where it all went down. SMH I can't believe I have to constantly spell it all out for yall... You knew exactly what I meant and I know it!


Tell it, kori.

Testify!!!

:tu

[ChumpDumper]

J:lmaoey walking back his stupid lie.

There is no evidence he gave money to any charitable organization in the wake ot the 9/11 attacks.

[Monostradamus]

IIRC, Trump bragged he had the tallest building in Manhattan on 9/11
https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1436667149297274880?s=21

:lmao

[Monostradamus]

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?
So you’re saying he was at “ground zero” that very day helping people get to financial safety?

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

So you’re saying he was at “ground zero” that very day helping people get to financial safety?

:lmaoHe was handing out scholarships to Trump University.

[koriwhat]

So you’re saying he was at “ground zero” that very day helping people get to financial safety?

:lmao

Nah, I'm saying he facilitated, with his own $, getting help down to "GZ" to sift through the debris and possibly find lives to save. How hard is this to actually grasp bro? You could easily just look up a video of Trump explaining it himself but you'd rather act like your old self and come across as the dickhead that you truly are.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Just listen to Trump. He always tells the truth!

[Monostradamus]

Nah, I'm saying he facilitated, with his own $, getting help down to "GZ" to sift through the debris and possibly find lives to save. How hard is this to actually grasp bro? You could easily just look up a video of Trump explaining it himself but you'd rather act like your old self and come across as the dickhead that you truly are.
You said very clearly “on 9/11/01” so you’re saying Trump personally overrode the NYC budget and paid for NYPD/FDNY to respond at ground zero that very day?

[Monostradamus]

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?

”at ground zero”

“on 9/11/01”

”helping others get to safety”

I mean read your own post, friend. You just need to take the L on this one instead of twisting your own fake truth into a pretzel.

[ChumpDumper]

Not two months after the attacks, Trump gave a speech to Wharton Business School graduates, according to Real Estate Weekly. In the question-and-answer session, one of them told Trump he had just before September 11 bought an apartment near what had turned into Ground Zero.

“What should I do now?” he asked.

Trump didn’t hesitate.

“I’d leave,” he said.

:lmao

[Thread]

Not two months after the attacks, Trump gave a speech to Wharton Business School graduates, according to Real Estate Weekly. In the question-and-answer session, one of them told Trump he had just before September 11 bought an apartment near what had turned into Ground Zero.

“What should I do now?” he asked.

Trump didn’t hesitate.

“I’d leave,” he said.

:lmao

Sound advice. I'm confident this graduate (white fellow no doubt) did not take it.

blacks: "We run."
whites: "What the hell is going on over here?"

[General Virtue]

Not two months after the attacks, Trump gave a speech to Wharton Business School graduates, according to Real Estate Weekly. In the question-and-answer session, one of them told Trump he had just before September 11 bought an apartment near what had turned into Ground Zero.

“What should I do now?” he asked.

Trump didn’t hesitate.

“I’d leave,” he said.

:lmao

Pick a lane.

[Winehole23]

he newly declassified document, which is from 2016, provides details of the FBI's work to investigate the alleged logistical support that a Saudi consular official and a suspected Saudi intelligence agent in Los Angeles provided to at least two of the men who hijacked planes on September 11, 2001. The document, released on the 20th anniversary of the deadly attacks, still contains significant redactions.
It details multiple connections and witness testimony that prompted FBI suspicion of Omar al-Bayoumi, who was purportedly a Saudi student in Los Angeles but whom the FBI suspected to be a Saudi intelligence agent. The FBI document describes him as deeply involved in providing "travel assistance, lodging and financing" to help the two hijackers.



The Saudi embassy in Washington, DC, previously said Wednesday that it "welcomes the release of" the FBI documents and that "any allegation that Saudi Arabia is complicit in the September 11 attacks is categorically false."https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/11/politics/fbi-releases-first-9-11-document-after-biden-order/index.html

[Thread]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/11/politics/fbi-releases-first-9-11-document-after-biden-order/index.html

BS on that inkling, Winester. I want every fucking piece of paper they got, every-fucking-one, now. NOW. Nothing held back for 50 fucking years.

It'll never happen. Ever. Building 7 imploded and they act like we're too stupid to see it. Fuck them.

[pgardn]

BS on that inkling, Winester. I want every fucking piece of paper they got, every-fucking-one, now. NOW. Nothing held back for 50 fucking years.

It'll never happen. Ever. Building 7 imploded and they act like we're too stupid to see it. Fuck them.

Ok

You need to stop cleaning the house and get outside.

[Thread]

Ok

You need to stop cleaning the house and get outside.

Got reprieved. Delayed till tomorrow afternoon.

[Winehole23]

more inadvertent comedy from Randesivir

1436809834175868929

[Ef-man]

Sedition, not picnicking. Guess the rubes will bothsides this too.

Federal prosecutors cited seditious conspiracy as a crime under investigation in a recent search that appears to be related to the US Capitol riot probe, according to a court document supporting the search.

The move, made known through the iPhone search of the Oath Keepers-linked Texas lawyer Kellye SoRelle, again raises the possibility that the Justice Department could be considering use of the provocative charge.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/politics/capitol-riot-cases-sedition-oath-keepers-lawyer/index.html

[ChumpDumper]

Well this is bonkers.
1436647462710792194
Doesn't seem architecturally accurate.

[Winehole23]

Few people talking about this tragic waste of life


As of July 19, 2021, according to the U.S. Department of Defense casualty website, there were 4,431 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 31,994 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of the Iraq War.



American service members killed in Afghanistan through April [2021]h: 2,448.
U.S. contractors: 3,846.

[Nother Level]

Well this is bonkers.
1436647462710792194
Doesn't seem architecturally accurate.

Compassionate psychopath

[Thread]

Few people talking about this tragic waste of life

That's American's...they see that (easy) money and gamble that they'll be the lucky one and live to bring that boodle onto U.S. soil...

- "Sometime that shark he go away. Sometime that shark he don't go away."

- "Quint" - "Jaws"

[Winehole23]

Ineresting article about how Europe and the US incubated radical Islamism throughout much of the 20th century as cat's paw against leftists and non-compliant secular states in the Middle East and South Asia.

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/09/11/the-twenty-year-shadow-of-9-11-u-s-complicity-in-the-terror-spectacle-and-the-urgent-need-to-end-it/

[Winehole23]

'The Longest Shadow': 9/11 leads to the militarization of US police departments (https://abc7chicago.com/the-longest-shadow-9-11-leads-to-the-militarization-of-us-police/11014224/)
$7 billion worth

https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-1033-military-equipment-weapons/

[ChumpDumper]

'The Longest Shadow': 9/11 leads to the militarization of US police departments (https://abc7chicago.com/the-longest-shadow-9-11-leads-to-the-militarization-of-us-police/11014224/)
$7 billion worth

https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-1033-military-equipment-weapons/Well I'd say it accelerated and completed that trend, but good article.

[Winehole23]

this was on the 15th anniversary of 9/11

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_Fz1zCWUAIBSWj?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Well I'd say it accelerated and completed that trend, but good article.there was never any doubt that the war on terror was also a war of social control be waged internally

[Winehole23]

Trump administration siphoned almost $4 million from 9/11 first responders fund: report (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-administration-siphoned-almost-4-million-from-911-first-responders-fund-report-2020-09-11)

[Winehole23]

Bush told NYers the air safe was breathe and that they should resume shopping; first responders at ground zero were told not to wear masks because it might scare people.

[Winehole23]

safety protocols look like overkill...until they work

1436784737268293633

[boutons_deux]

Well I'd say it accelerated and completed that trend, but good article.

right winger Bill Clinton signed a bill in 1997 that was one of 5 strategic objectives of conservatives (preparing law enforcement for martial law when oligarchy/Repugs suspend Congress and install fascism): militarization of the police.

"The 1033 program was instituted in 1997

under the Clinton administration amid pressure to bolster police forces’ ability

to fight the war on drugs. :lol

It transfers the military’s extra or outdated gear to state and local authorities who apply for it, who are responsible only for the cost of shipping."

https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-1033-military-equipment-weapons/

9/11 gave law enforcement all the unchallengeable pretext it needed to "power up",

then the Repugs, using 9/11 as pretext, created the shitshow DHS army to violate the Constitutions's posse comitatus prohibition.

[Winehole23]

Within Islam, OBL was widely denounced at the time of 9/11. The US invading Iraq changed the math.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_Gd03EX0Asi-ii?format=png&name=small

[boutons_deux]

After Pouring Billions Into Militarization of U.S. Cops, Congress Weighs Limits

Over the past two decades, many police departments have legally acquired guns and vehicles intended for military use in wartime combat. But the massive nationwide protests have made apparent how

police can use this equipment against U.S. citizens in large cities and small towns alike.

The transfers were limited under the Obama administration but re-expanded under President Donald Trump in 2017.

$24.3B Grants allocated through DHS

$7.4B Equipment value distributed through DoD

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-police-military-equipment/

[RandomGuy]

So copy pasta again after all. :lol

... Still no theory. :lol


You have no idea what happened.

[RandomGuy]

Trump administration siphoned almost $4 million from 9/11 first responders fund: report (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-administration-siphoned-almost-4-million-from-911-first-responders-fund-report-2020-09-11)

Worth a thread onnits own

[Thread]

Worth a thread onnits own

Then act like somebody, thread IT and don't be afraid, RG.

[Thread]

After Pouring Billions Into Militarization of U.S. Cops, Congress Weighs Limits

Over the past two decades, many police departments have legally acquired guns and vehicles intended for military use in wartime combat. But the massive nationwide protests have made apparent how

police can use this equipment against U.S. citizens in large cities and small towns alike.

The transfers were limited under the Obama administration but re-expanded under President Donald Trump in 2017.

$24.3B Grants allocated through DHS

$7.4B Equipment value distributed through DoD

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-police-military-equipment/

A wise decision; 1/6 took the Capitol, in what; less than 2 hours, bouts?

See, your way they'll not live in regret at not mowing them down like in the movies, then running to the CNN for gratification and to see when they get their medals.

[RandomGuy]

there was never any doubt that the war on terror was also a war of social control be waged internally

Seemed like an overreach at the time, and you could damn well see it outlasting the threat. Pretty much what happened.

[Winehole23]

would have made more sense to retaliate against the KSA than Iraq, tbh.



Long-Secret FBI Report Reveals New Connections Between 9/11 Hijackers and Saudi Religious Officials in U.S. (https://www.propublica.org/article/long-secret-fbi-report-reveals-new-connections-between-9-11-hijackers-and-saudi-religious-officials-in-u-s)

[RandomGuy]

would have made more sense to retaliate against the KSA than Iraq, tbh.

It might have, absent realpolitik concerns about attacking the worlds largest oil producer.

[Neo.]

Were those "current" and past presidents at ground zero on 9/11/01 like President Trump was while helping others get to safety?

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

[koriwhat]

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Haha Still out of context but context doesn't matter when it comes to shitlibs like yourself.

[Neo.]

Haha Still out of context but context doesn't matter when it comes to shitlibs like yourself.

lol thinking im a liberal

lol triggered

[koriwhat]

lol thinking im a liberal

lol triggered

Nah bro, I think you're a fucking retard. There's no real liberals these days anyhow bro except for maybe some of the older generation. Classical liberalism has been dead for some time now and in its place stands radical extremist progressives/commies plus retards like you.

[Neo.]

Nah bro, I think you're a fucking retard. There's no real liberals these days anyhow bro except for maybe some of the older generation. Classical liberalism has been dead for some time now and in its place stands radical extremist progressives/commies plus retards like you.

lol thinking im remotely political

lol triggered

[RandomGuy]

lol thinking im remotely political

lol triggered

I doubt he even knows or could define any of those terms he just used.

He's like a parrot with some favorite words.

"liberal" skwaaaack
"Progressive" skwaaaack
"i'm fucking tired of this" skwaaaaack

[koriwhat]

I doubt he even knows or could define any of those terms he just used.

He's like a parrot with some favorite words.

"liberal" skwaaaack
"Progressive" skwaaaack
"i'm fucking tired of this" skwaaaaack

Mr 5 Languages was wrong af not even a month ago in another thread replying to me yet here you are acting like the faux intellectual that you are. Go fuck yourself bro! :tu

Kissing ass isn't a great trait to have btw you ass kisser.

[DMC]

RG is a faux intellectual, You know goddamn well a sandbagging grunt doesn't know shit from shineola about anything but sure knows how to tell a story.

[Ef-man]

I doubt he even knows or could define any of those terms he just used.

He's like a parrot with some favorite words.

"liberal" skwaaaack
"Progressive" skwaaaack
"i'm fucking tired of this" skwaaaaack

Like clockwork, Pseudo Intellectual Poster B trying to change the conversation and bloviate. :lol

[DMC]

Like clockwork, Pseudo Intellectual Poster B trying to change the conversation and bloviate. :lol

Do you ever get tired of being a sycophant to lower tier posters?

[ChumpDumper]

RG is a faux intellectual, You know goddamn well a sandbagging grunt doesn't know shit from shineola about anything but sure knows how to tell a story.

You put me on ignore because I corrected your English usage.:lol

[Ef-man]

You put me on ignore because I corrected your English usage.:lol

:lol
It is sad to read his complains about posters not understanding the points he is trying to make.

Maybe he should forward copies of his posts so you can proofread them?

:lol

[Hank Scorpio]

1644866587780939778

[Nbadan]

22 Years later....time to wake this bad boy back up cause......some people never admitted they were wrong


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXYpqJvjekM&t=251s

[Nbadan]

The pompous ones won't watch it, but you can...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJAWl8unZeA

[ChumpDumper]

:lol still trying

None of your conspiracy theories ever made sense.

You had 20 years and you failed.

[Ef-man]

:lol still trying

None of your conspiracy theories ever made sense.

You had 20 years and you failed.

Where do these gullible retards find this Cosmored level shit? :lol

[Nbadan]

:lol still trying

None of your conspiracy theories ever made sense.

You had 20 years and you failed.

More like you have had 20 years to flaunt how wrong you have been. Of course, you know better than a forensic pathologist with years of field experience...oh wait, no you don't...you are as full of shit as those you try to degrade ....and worse because you have let this group think take over Spurs talk political forum...all of you were wrong......just like I told you you would be 20 years ago

you just can't crap on shit because it does not meet your narrative....you actually have to prove you know what the hell you are talking about and in this topic you have failed miserably....

[Nbadan]

Where do these gullible retards find this Cosmored level shit? :lol

troll

[Ef-man]

troll

Where have you been hiding Cosmored? Long time no see.

Do you have more "moon landing were faked" videos for us to ignore?

[Nbadan]

I think the next thing we need to examine is how Chump, RG, and others could be so wrong on WTC7 and what else have they been tragically wrong about in these past years but bullied everyone into buying into their fabricated "stories"....

This is a serious problem of credibility

[Nbadan]

Where have you been hiding Cosmored? Long time no see.

Do you have more "moon landing were faked" videos for us to ignore?

Everyone knows Chump uses trolls to do his bidding...

[Ef-man]

Everyone knows Chump uses trolls to do his bidding...

Ahhh, Chump trolls doing his bidding, cool, tell me more (e.g., mind control, power of suggestion, or just one of his many accounts), be specific?

Also, paranoid much? Chump says he is looking at you, as he is a world class hacker too.

P.S. Just doing his bidding

[Nbadan]

Ahhh, Chump trolls doing his bidding, cool, tell me more (e.g., mind control, power of suggestion, or just one of his many accounts), be specific?

Also, paranoid much? Chump says he is looking at you, as he is a world class hacker too.

P.S. Just doing his bidding

Do you want to debate math or science or troll?

[Ef-man]

Do you want to debate math or science or troll?

Please, explain away your ideas in your own words, be specific.