Suns fans misery index goes up a notch...

[Man of Steel]

June 4, 2007
Brownie Points: Cavs’ win makes Suns’ loss hurt more
Jerry Brown, Tribune Columnist
For Suns fans who felt an NBA championship was stolen away by David Stern, the basketball gods who despise their team, or, OK, OK, maybe the San Antonio Spurs, the nightmare just got worse.

Cleveland won the Eastern Conference. Oh swell.

The Suns swept the Cavaliers this season. They’ve won eight of the last 10 meetings, and led in the other two games by at least 17 points. Their game plan — let LeBron James score his 40 or so points, run Zydrunas Ilgauskas into the hardwood and exploit matchup advantages all over the floor — has a proven track record.

By the way, SI.com reports that last week in Orlando NBA owners, at the request of the Suns, took a look at the rule that levies an automatic suspension to players for leaving the bench.

No changes were recommended.

:smokin

[ATRAIN]

hahahah Stupid Suns

[SAGambler]

If those damned old Spurs would just disappear, there are so many teams that could win a title.......

And can you blame them for crying? I mean, after all the Spurs already have 3. How many do they want?

[twentyone]

http://nappydesigns.com/wp-uploads/debbie_downer.jpg

bbbbbut they are so young and explosive offensively! :dramaquee

[Mr. Body]

I could give a crap what they feel about this series. If they wanted to beat the Spurs, they could have not flopped over in Game 6. But they rolled like dogs.

[hater]

San Antowned

[ATRAIN]

Isnt it funny the Suns have left for the season, I havent seen many of them post. I wonder if they had some mass suicide since the league" has it in for them" hahaha.

[BWJACKETS]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

[hater]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

you are way late in the argument. this has been discussed over and over and over. get over it.

end of the matter is the suns dumbass players violated the rule and got suspended for being stupid. end of story.

[Trainwreck2100]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.


Did we somehow revert to three weeks ago

[Avitus1]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

So instead let both team brawl it out? So it can look like one of those baseball pile ups. Or they can get the fans out there to and we can get a repeat of the Artest incident. Rules are rules and the other Suns players who were on the bench seemed to be aware of that. Just cause your a key player on your team doesn't mean your going to be treated differently for doing what you thought was right. Horry may have started it but its the ref and the leagues job to finish it. We could and did beat you without him anyways.

[easjer]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.


The team that started the conflict was punished. Horry fouled Nash, no question, but then he walked away towards where the play was supposed to occur and to his bench. Nash flopped and Raja Bell came running at Horry. Bell/Nash are really the people who turned it from a hard foul into a conflict, so there you go.

Suns stupidity further hurts them. Amare and Boris wouldn't have left the bench if Nash had just gotten back up or if Raja hadn't run over to get in Horry's face.

Additionally, Nash was never in physical danger from that body check. And it is the referees job to enforce the rules, not the bench of one team or the other. And if you'd like to talk further about rinky-dink judgements (that the Spurs are not responsible for and don't make) then let's talk about Horry's 2 game make up suspensions for less than multiple other fouls in the playoffs that didn't even get flagrant 2 calls, let alone 2 game suspensions.

[Man In Black]

Now look:

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict,
Why do people look at it that way? The simple fact of the matter is that the entire bench -2 people knew the rule. They were told the rule before the season, they were told the rule again before the playoffs, and yet despite all that, those 2 guys got past all the coaches, the training staff who know to kkeep theri staff in the bench area, to MAKE THEMSELVES GET CAUGHT.
Now onto the Spurs beating the Cavs.

[GSH]

If those damned old Spurs would just disappear, there are so many teams that could win a title.......

And can you blame them for crying? I mean, after all the Spurs already have 3. How many do they want?

The funny part is how all of them think they definitely would win the championship. Denver woulda won it all. Phoenix woulda won it all. Utah woulda won it all. Dallas...well Doll-ass is different. But you get what I mean. No matter what, only one of the sure-fire championship winners could have even reached the finals.

[Spider TX]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.

[hater]

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.

http://kerscher.montana.com/Cooper_crying.JPG

[ClingingMars]

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/113-2/crybaby.jpg

-Mars

[MadDog73]

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.

So, being suspended two games was not punishment enough?

Why should Duncan be punished for Horry's foul?

And, as has been said a million times before, if stupis ass Bell didn't try to start shit with Bowen, there would be no suspensions.

So, blame Horry. Blame Bell. Blame Amare and Diaw. But don't blame the Spurs, and don't blame the league. It's not their fault the Suns over-reacted to Horry.

[Spider TX]

You all conveniently forget about little bitch Bowen and his cheapshots, but of course you all would forget about that, because you want to blame everyone else and think the Spurs do no wrong. But saying the altercation was caused by anyone but someone on the Spurs is just idiotic, the Spurs were starting so much all series that anyone, and I mean ANYONE in that situation would react like that.

[Corn on the Colb]

You all conveniently forget about little bitch Bowen and his cheapshots, but of course you all would forget about that, because you want to blame everyone else and think the Spurs do no wrong.

I see where you guys find the humor in Suns fans now.

It's been like 3 weeks, maybe a month now. Hasn't it?

Wow.

[Spider TX]

I see where you guys find the humor in Suns fans now.

It's been like 3 weeks, maybe a month now. Hasn't it?

Wow.

I don't ever start it, but when these close minded fools still say the same dumb shit, I will back it up. Unfortunately, your team just never had a chance, and was only there thanks to the Warriors, so you just have to realize they were beat, and not cheapshoted at all.

[DarrinS]

You all conveniently forget about little bitch Bowen and his cheapshots, but of course you all would forget about that, because you want to blame everyone else and think the Spurs do no wrong. But saying the altercation was caused by anyone but someone on the Spurs is just idiotic, the Spurs were starting so much all series that anyone, and I mean ANYONE in that situation would react like that.


weak smack forum

[Spider TX]

weak smack forum

And so many of you cannot muster up a response wrothwhile.

[Extra Stout]

You all conveniently forget about little bitch Bowen and his cheapshots, but of course you all would forget about that, because you want to blame everyone else and think the Spurs do no wrong.
I remember back when Shaq and Kobe used to whip the Spurs' asses. Your posts resemble what Spurs (and Kings) fans used to say about the Lakers back in the day.

In other words, you are our bitch. We own you. You will whine and cry about the Spurs until kingdom come.

Well, at least you can take solace in knowing that your best player, the one that makes your team tick, is only 22, and your team has a bright f....

Oh wait, that's Cleveland.

The Suns' window is closing. No titles in your lifetime. Eat it, bitch.

[Spider TX]

I remember back when Shaq and Kobe used to whip the Spurs' asses. Your posts resemble what Spurs (and Kings) fans used to say about the Lakers back in the day.

In other words, you are our bitch. We own you. You will whine and cry about the Spurs until kingdom come.

Well, at least you can take solace in knowing that your best player, the one that makes your team tick, is only 22, and your team has a bright f....

Oh wait, that's Cleveland.

The Suns' window is closing. No titles in your lifetime. Eat it, bitch.

You will be eating it soon enough, but course, when that time comes, you will be nowhere to be found, so enjoy the asterisk on 2 of your 4 titles, thats the reason your team cannot get any national respect. You will see titles very very soon from the Suns, let's see if you are man enough to eat crow then.

[Avitus1]

hmmm

[Corn on the Colb]

I don't ever start it, but when these close minded fools still say the same dumb shit, I will back it up. Unfortunately, your team just never had a chance, and was only there thanks to the Warriors, so you just have to realize they were beat, and not cheapshoted at all.

The Utah Jazz won 3 games versus the Phoenix Suns in the 2006-2007 season and lost only 1.

:lol :lol :lol

[101A]

I remember back when Shaq and Kobe used to whip the Spurs' asses. Your posts resemble what Spurs (and Kings) fans used to say about the Lakers back in the day.

In other words, you are our bitch. We own you. You will whine and cry about the Spurs until kingdom come.

Well, at least you can take solace in knowing that your best player, the one that makes your team tick, is only 22, and your team has a bright f....

Oh wait, that's Cleveland.

The Suns' window is closing. No titles in your lifetime. Eat it, bitch.

Yeah, must suck. When Duncan finishes owning the league; the Cavs are going to have fleshed out that lineup and....lots of good players gonna go ringless.

[Corn on the Colb]

Yeah, must suck. When Duncan finishes owning the league; the Cavs are going to have fleshed out that lineup and....lots of good players gonna go ringless.

As a Utah fan, I know how it feels to be on the losing end of this 'owning.' Two words -- Michael Jordan.

[Spider TX]

The Utah Jazz won 3 games versus the Phoenix Suns in the 2006-2007 season and lost only 1.

:lol :lol :lol

You are right, but no way in hell would the Jazz have even won 2 against the Suns when things really mattered. The Jazz themselves would have been shocked to get a game 6 against the Suns had they played. And 2 of those wins were within the first 10 games, when the Suns looked like the worst team in the league, it's like trying to act tough when beating the Mavs during the 0-4 start.

[DarrinS]

And so many of you cannot muster up a response wrothwhile.


I'm not responding to any Nuggets fans weak shit either.


Next.

[Extra Stout]

You will be eating it soon enough, but course, when that time comes, you will be nowhere to be found, so enjoy the asterisk on 2 of your 4 titles, thats the reason your team cannot get any national respect. You will see titles very very soon from the Suns, let's see if you are man enough to eat crow then.
Nobody cares about what happened to the Suns outside Arizona. You can wish it to be otherwise, but it's not.

By "soon," do you mean in terms of geologic time? Because you won't live long enough to see the Suns win a title. Maybe your grandkids will lay a flower on your grave when the Suns finally win.

[ClingingMars]

You are right, but no way in hell would the Jazz have even won 2 against the Suns when things really mattered. The Jazz themselves would have been shocked to get a game 6 against the Suns had they played. And 2 of those wins were within the first 10 games, when the Suns looked like the worst team in the league, it's like trying to act tough when beating the Mavs during the 0-4 start.

You lost, quit crying and get over it. Start focusing on talking about what trades need to be made, what changes need to be made in the front office, etc, but bitching here will get you no where. What's done is done.

-Mars

[Extra Stout]

You are right, but no way in hell would the Jazz have even won 2 against the Suns when things really mattered. The Jazz themselves would have been shocked to get a game 6 against the Suns had they played. And 2 of those wins were within the first 10 games, when the Suns looked like the worst team in the league, it's like trying to act tough when beating the Mavs during the 0-4 start.
:lol Woulda, shoulda, coulda. The Suns are invincible in the hypothetical. Enjoy dreaming about your pretend championship.

[703 Spurz]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

Everyone hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs huh? Wow, great to hear jackoff

[Corn on the Colb]

You are right, but no way in hell would the Jazz have even won 2 against the Suns when things really mattered. The Jazz themselves would have been shocked to get a game 6 against the Suns had they played. And 2 of those wins were within the first 10 games, when the Suns looked like the worst team in the league, it's like trying to act tough when beating the Mavs during the 0-4 start.

How about acting tough after beating the team that beat the Mavs?

Stfu. We'd have slowed you guys down, Deron always plays well against Steve Gash, and we were still 3-1 against you. Maybe the Jazz were the ones MAKING YOU LOOK BAD. You idiot.

No way in hell they'd beat the Suns when it mattered? It's not like the Suns are exactly notorious for coming through in the playoffs.

Owned. ^^^

[ClingingMars]

I don't ever start it, but when these close minded fools still say the same dumb shit, I will back it up. Unfortunately, your team just never had a chance, and was only there thanks to the Warriors, so you just have to realize they were beat, and not cheapshoted at all.

I disagree. If the Warriors had taken the Mavericks to 7 and then lost, I feel like Utah would have beaten Dallas anyway.

-Mars

[Spider TX]

Nobody cares about what happened to the Suns outside Arizona. You can wish it to be otherwise, but it's not.

By "soon," do you mean in terms of geologic time? Because you won't live long enough to see the Suns win a title. Maybe your grandkids will lay a flower on your grave when the Suns finally win.

I guarantee you the Suns win a title very soon, but like I said, nobody will sack up and say they were wrong when that happens very soon. And think again, the Suns have a TON of fans outside of Arizona, as I do not even live there anymore, and see fans everywhere. I understand your need to bash other teams like that because NOBODY gives a flying fuck about the Spurs outside of San Antonio, and you all can't handle that.

[703 Spurz]

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.

:blah

[Corn on the Colb]

:lol Woulda, shoulda, coulda. The Suns are invincible in the hypothetical. Enjoy dreaming about your pretend championship.

....And Nash would be the MVP and everyone would call us the best ever and stop picking on us for choking each year and it would be the greatest championship in history....

Stern )#@%&*@#(!!@!@$()!@%&)!!!! LMAO.

[703 Spurz]

You will be eating it soon enough, but course, when that time comes, you will be nowhere to be found, so enjoy the asterisk on 2 of your 4 titles, thats the reason your team cannot get any national respect. You will see titles very very soon from the Suns, let's see if you are man enough to eat crow then.

As far as I know the Spurs are very respected nationally. I have no clue what you're talking about.

So suddenly the Suns will start winning titles? Nice pipedream

[ClingingMars]

I guarantee you the Suns win a title very soon, but like I said, nobody will sack up and say they were wrong when that happens very soon. And think again, the Suns have a TON of fans outside of Arizona, as I do not even live there anymore, and see fans everywhere. I understand your need to bash other teams like that because NOBODY gives a flying fuck about the Spurs outside of San Antonio, and you all can't handle that.

I live in Norfolk, Virginia, and have a large group of friends who also like the Spurs. You sir, fail at life. gg

-Mars

[Corn on the Colb]

I guarantee you the Suns win a title very soon, but like I said, nobody will sack up and say they were wrong when that happens very soon. And think again, the Suns have a TON of fans outside of Arizona, as I do not even live there anymore, and see fans everywhere. I understand your need to bash other teams like that because NOBODY gives a flying fuck about the Spurs outside of San Antonio, and you all can't handle that.

How can you guarantee that?

They can't do it until now, it's not like Nash is getting younger.

Apparently the amount of fans outside your state has nothing to do with getting to the Western Finals.

However, being worthy of going there does. Thanks Jazz and Spurs, for proving this theory.

[Spider TX]

How about acting tough after beating the team that beat the Mavs?

Stfu. We'd have slowed you guys down, Deron always plays well against Steve Gash, and we were still 3-1 against you. Maybe the Jazz were the ones MAKING YOU LOOK BAD. You idiot.

No way in hell they'd beat the Suns when it mattered? It's not like the Suns are exactly notorious for coming through in the playoffs.

Owned. ^^^

Like I already said, beating them twice in the first 10 games means very very little. Deron Williams would have been schooled when it really mattered had he faced Nash. Just look at when the Suns really gave a shit this season and were coming into playoff form, they walloped your little Jazz. Nobody takes your team seriously, sorry.

[weebo]

You all conveniently forget about little bitch Bowen and his cheapshots, but of course you all would forget about that, because you want to blame everyone else and think the Spurs do no wrong. But saying the altercation was caused by anyone but someone on the Spurs is just idiotic, the Spurs were starting so much all series that anyone, and I mean ANYONE in that situation would react like that.



:lol

[Corn on the Colb]

Like I already said, beating them twice in the first 10 games means very very little. Deron Williams would have been schooled when it really mattered had he faced Nash. Just look at when the Suns really gave a shit this season and were coming into playoff form, they walloped your little Jazz. Nobody takes your team seriously, sorry.

They walloped our team in a stretch where we were collapsing and losing home-court advantage.

The Warriors walloped us in that stretch as well.

That turned out pretty good for them come playoff time huh?

Williams owned Bruce Bowen. You think Nash could have stopped him? LMAO!!!! That's awesome.

[Spider TX]

How can you guarantee that?

They can't do it until now, it's not like Nash is getting younger.

Apparently the amount of fans outside your state has nothing to do with getting to the Western Finals.

However, being worthy of going there does. Thanks Jazz and Spurs, for proving this theory.

Your team gets the easy route to the Western Conference Finals, and all of a sudden you think they accomplished something? Go away, and come back and talk when they have something worthwhile to talk about in Utah. Williams and Boozer are getting close, but not yet.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.

I still think... wait a minute... why are you here?

[Obstructed_View]

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.
Three point deficit with 30 seconds to go. Nobody thinks that game was over by a long shot. Nash flopped to get a bogus flagrant call, which would have been a brilliant way to seal the game, except that he fooled his entire team in the process.

It's not like history doesn't prove the Spurs fuckin' own the Suns anyway. At least Suns fans have something to blame now other than the fact that they have an inferior team built for exhibition games full of weak minded players and coaches.

[Spider TX]

They walloped our team in a stretch where we were collapsing and losing home-court advantage.

The Warriors walloped us in that stretch as well.

That turned out pretty good for them come playoff time huh?

Williams owned Bruce Bowen. You think Nash could have stopped him? LMAO!!!! That's awesome.

It wouldn't have been stopping him, just outscoring him and showing him a thing or two about playing that position.

[twentyone]

Maybe your grandkids will lay a flower on your grave when the Suns finally win.

D'oh?

:ihit I'll take an asterisk over getting beat by a team with an asterisk. it's the same pattern, Suns talk shit, Suns lose to the Spurs. Can't blame them, when you step on their necks they are going to squirm. Fight or Flight. 'Cept they chose Flight in game 6 I guess.

[Corn on the Colb]

Your team gets the easy route to the Western Conference Finals, and all of a sudden you think they accomplished something? Go away, and come back and talk when they have something worthwhile to talk about in Utah. Williams and Boozer are getting close, but not yet.

Boozer, Williams, in their first playoff run, win a Game 7 on the road against the mighty T-Mac and Yao, then beatdown the hottest team in the league in 5 games, and bow out to the eventual champions, who are far and away the best team in the last 4-5 years. Probably the best Spurs ever.

I guess there's nothing accomplished there.

Oh, I forgot to put in the fact they went further than the Suns.

[Spider TX]

Three point deficit with 30 seconds to go. Nobody thinks that game was over by a long shot. Nash flopped to get a bogus flagrant call, which would have been a brilliant way to seal the game, except that he fooled his entire team in the process.

It's not like history doesn't prove the Spurs fuckin' own the Suns anyway. At least Suns fans have something to blame now other than the fact that they have an inferior team built for exhibition games full of weak minded players and coaches.
The game was over, the Suns were getting fouled with a great foul shooter, putting it to at least 4. Nash never flopped, go and watch it again, when a guy 7 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier lays a shoulder into you, you fall, just physics.

[weebo]

Like I already said, beating them twice in the first 10 games means very very little. Deron Williams would have been schooled when it really mattered had he faced Nash. Just look at when the Suns really gave a shit this season and were coming into playoff form, they walloped your little Jazz. Nobody takes your team seriously, sorry.

I gaurentee the Spurs take the Jazz seriously. Any Jerry Sloan led team poses more of a threat than one led by D'Ant/Nash.

[Corn on the Colb]

It wouldn't have been stopping him, just outscoring him and showing him a thing or two about playing that position.

It's hard to outscore someone when you'd be allowing 30 a game. Nash wouldn't score 30 a game on Williams.

Deron doesn't need to learn anything from Nash, he learns from someone who is so much higher, mightier, flat-out-better, smarter, better, stronger, faster, cooler, and much much better than Nash, John Stockton.

[Spider TX]

Boozer, Williams, in their first playoff run, win a Game 7 on the road against the mighty T-Mac and Yao, then beatdown the hottest team in the league in 5 games, and bow out to the eventual champions, who are far and away the best team in the last 4-5 years. Probably the best Spurs ever.

I guess there's nothing accomplished there.

Oh, I forgot to put in the fact they went further than the Suns.

No, it's nothing accomplished, as the Rockets do not know how to win, and those 2 are not that mighty, as they win nothing. The Warriors were the hottest team for 6 games, when they matched up well, but were never a real threat. They got the easy route there, and then were punished by a good team, like they would have been against the Mavs or Suns, any of the 3 would have crushed your girls up there.

[Spider TX]

It's hard to outscore someone when you'd be allowing 30 a game. Nash wouldn't score 30 a game on Williams.

Deron doesn't need to learn anything from Nash, he learns from someone who is so much higher, mightier, flat-out-better, smarter, better, stronger, faster, cooler, and much much better than Nash, John Stockton.

Stockton is in no way much much better. How many MVP's does he have again? He's better, but not all that much as you say.

[Corn on the Colb]

The game was over, the Suns were getting fouled with a great foul shooter, putting it to at least 4. Nash never flopped, go and watch it again, when a guy 7 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier lays a shoulder into you, you fall, just physics.

You are blind.

Wow. He hit the table then kind of hesitates and THEN falls the rest of the way to the ground, writhing in 'pain', only to get up immediately, unscathed, miraculously healed, to try and attack the 7 footer who would crush him if he had the chance.

[Spider TX]

I gaurentee the Spurs take the Jazz seriously. Any Jerry Sloan led team poses more of a threat than one led by D'Ant/Nash.

And you sir, are an idiot, and have shown how little you really know. The Spurs were much much much more worried about the SUns than the little Jazz.

[Spider TX]

You are blind.

Wow. He hit the table then kind of hesitates and THEN falls the rest of the way to the ground, writhing in 'pain', only to get up immediately, unscathed, miraculously healed, to try and attack the 7 footer who would crush him if he had the chance.

He flopped a bit at the end, but that was no flop as to why he fell. Anyone with that size disadvantage falls, and thats why the team reacted, to stick up for their player who took a cheapshot.

[Obstructed_View]

The game was over, the Suns were getting fouled with a great foul shooter, putting it to at least 4. Nash never flopped, go and watch it again, when a guy 7 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier lays a shoulder into you, you fall, just physics.
Three point deficit with 30 seconds to go. At home. No Suns fan on earth believes that the game was over at that point. You are just flat lying if you say anything of the kind. The Spurs gave up like a 12 point lead in that amount of time, and I remember the Spurs coming back from like seven points on the Suns in less than ten seconds. You should remember that one; the Suns protested the game to the commissioner.

The point is, there's no way that game was over until the refs gave Nash two and the ball and ejected the most clutch shooter on the floor. Doesn't matter anyway. Your shitty team couldn't even win game six against the undermanned Spurs.

[Corn on the Colb]

Stockton is in no way much much better. How many MVP's does he have again? He's better, but not all that much as you say.

LMAO. Nash has 2 undeserved MVP's. Nash is playing how the PG position should be played, pass-first. And he gets rewarded with an MVP during a 14 ppg and 11 apg year? Stockton had three straight 17 ppg & 13-14 apg years with less weapons than Nash. Nash only has MVP's because the NBA over-praised him for playing point guard. Stockton owns Nash.

[Corn on the Colb]

And you sir, are an idiot, and have shown how little you really know. The Spurs were much much much more worried about the SUns than the little Jazz.

They had already dismissed the Suns, I'm pretty sure they were worried more about the team who could actually get to the Western Finals.

[Spider TX]

Where exactly was there a 14ppg a year in there. An MVP makes his team that much better, and taking a BAD BAD team and turning them into a 62 win team is an MVP year. They were deserved in every way.

[Corn on the Colb]

He flopped a bit at the end, but that was no flop as to why he fell. Anyone with that size disadvantage falls, and thats why the team reacted, to stick up for their player who took a cheapshot.

And if they didn't leave the bench, we probably wouldn't be talking about it.

[Obstructed_View]

Stockton is in no way much much better. How many MVP's does he have again? He's better, but not all that much as you say.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

If Nash has the same type of season he's had for the next couple of years, he'll pass Muggsy Bogues on the all time assists list and get into the top ten. Fucking please. We know you weren't watching basketball before 2005, but don't make it so easy to prove what a stupid homer you are. :lol

[Corn on the Colb]

Where exactly was there a 14ppg a year in there. An MVP makes his team that much better, and taking a BAD BAD team and turning them into a 62 win team is an MVP year. They were deserved in every way.

1st Year - Shaq.

2nd Year - Kobe, Dirk, and LeBron.

They are who deserved it over him.

He should have gotten it this year, but his 2 previous ones were so bogus that they couldn't give him another. And they fixed the screw up by giving it to Dirk.

Gotta love it.

[Spider TX]

Three point deficit with 30 seconds to go. At home. No Suns fan on earth believes that the game was over at that point. You are just flat lying if you say anything of the kind. The Spurs gave up like a 12 point lead in that amount of time, and I remember the Spurs coming back from like seven points on the Suns in less than ten seconds. You should remember that one; the Suns protested the game to the commissioner.

The point is, there's no way that game was over until the refs gave Nash two and the ball and ejected the most clutch shooter on the floor. Doesn't matter anyway. Your shitty team couldn't even win game six against the undermanned Spurs.

Dude, stop kidding yourself, that game was over. It was becoming a 4 point lead, maybe even 5, and there was less than 15 second to go, not 30 as you say.

[Corn on the Colb]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

If Nash has the same type of season he's had for the next couple of years, he'll pass Muggsy Bogues on the all time assists list and get into the top ten. Fucking please. We know you weren't watching basketball before 2005, but don't make it so easy to prove what a stupid homer you are. :lol

LMAO.

And Muggsy can act! Can Nash? :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Where exactly was there a 14ppg a year in there. An MVP makes his team that much better, and taking a BAD BAD team and turning them into a 62 win team is an MVP year. They were deserved in every way.
I'm sure you don't know anything about the pre-2005 Suns because you weren't a fan then, but they won 44 games in 2003 and gave the Spurs a more competetive playoff series than they've given since Nash arrived. Amare was hurt, they changed coaches and traded away all their guards. Do a little research before you say stupid shit.

Nash has two MVP trophies: Lebron's and Shaq's.

[Corn on the Colb]

Dude, stop kidding yourself, that game was over. It was becoming a 4 point lead, maybe even 5, and there was less than 15 second to go, not 30 as you say.

It was a 3 point game, and 18-19 seconds left.

Get it right.

[Spider TX]

1st Year - Shaq.

2nd Year - Kobe, Dirk, and LeBron.

They are who deserved it over him.

He should have gotten it this year, but his 2 previous ones were so bogus that they couldn't give him another. And they fixed the screw up by giving it to Dirk.

Gotta love it.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY deserved it over him, because the MVP means the most VALUABLE ot his team, and nobody compares to Nash in that category. Now you wanna say best player in the league that year, then Kobe would have about 7 awards, but that's not what the award is. And now most people around the country think he should have gotten his third, as Dirk's numbers were down, but he was valuable to leading his team to 67 wins, so he got the award, but again, Kobe was far and away the best player.

[Corn on the Colb]

I'm sure you don't know anything about the pre-2005 Suns because you weren't a fan then, but they won 44 games in 2003 and gave the Spurs a more competetive playoff series than they've given since Nash arrived. Amare was hurt, they changed coaches and traded away all their guards. Do a little research before you say stupid shit.

Nash has two MVP trophies: Lebron's and Shaq's.

LMAO. Beautiful.

[Spider TX]

It was a 3 point game, and 18-19 seconds left.

Get it right.

It was a 3 point game, about to BECOME 5, and yes, there were 18 seconds, so I was off by 3, but there were not 30.

[Obstructed_View]

Dude, stop kidding yourself, that game was over. It was becoming a 4 point lead, maybe even 5, and there was less than 15 second to go, not 30 as you say.
Since you mentioned it, I went back and checked. There were 18 seconds on the clock. Nash missed one free throw, so the lead was four. Barring the flop, the Spurs had a timeout, and the ball, with a four point deficit at home. They didn't think the game was over. Trust me. Horry wasn't trying to hurt Nash. If he had been, I assure you Nash would have been hurt.

[Spider TX]

I'm sure you don't know anything about the pre-2005 Suns because you weren't a fan then, but they won 44 games in 2003 and gave the Spurs a more competetive playoff series than they've given since Nash arrived. Amare was hurt, they changed coaches and traded away all their guards. Do a little research before you say stupid shit.

Nash has two MVP trophies: Lebron's and Shaq's.

I know all there is about them as I've been a fan my whole life. Go take a second and look at their stellar 2003-2004 record, the one right before Nash. I wasn't talking about 2002-2003 when Amare was a rookie and Marbury was still decent for them.

[Corn on the Colb]

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY deserved it over him, because the MVP means the most VALUABLE ot his team, and nobody compares to Nash in that category. Now you wanna say best player in the league that year, then Kobe would have about 7 awards, but that's not what the award is. And now most people around the country think he should have gotten his third, as Dirk's numbers were down, but he was valuable to leading his team to 67 wins, so he got the award, but again, Kobe was far and away the best player.

If it was COMPLETELY judged by the voters on purely how valuable the guy is to the team, then it would be between Jason Kidd and Tim Duncan every year.

But the voters DO and always have factored in numbers. Just not in Nash's, because of my previous post. The NBA forgot that all Nash does well is play point guard. It's not like Nash is one of the 10 best PG's ever.

[Corn on the Colb]

Since you mentioned it, I went back and checked. There were 18 seconds on the clock. Nash missed one free throw, so the lead was four. Barring the flop, the Spurs had a timeout, and the ball, with a four point deficit at home. They didn't think the game was over. Trust me. Horry wasn't trying to hurt Nash. If he had been, I assure you Nash would have been hurt.

I thought it was 100-97.

But I agree, if Horry wanted to hurt him, he freaking could.

[easjer]

Dude, all you have to do is watch the tape to see what happened.

Nobody denies that Horry gave Nash an unnecessarily hard foul. But given that the refs didn't call the two clear fouls by Finley on Nash right after the inbounds, I don't blame him for bodychecking Nash. It wasn't even that hard a foul, frankly. Harder than necessary, probably, but hardly designed to injure him. In fact, specifically designed to throw him out of the way without injury, hence why Horry's arms where held inside.

But it would have ended there had it not been for Nash's embellishment, and if you don't believe he embellished, then you are the one being close minded. The tape evidence clearly shows that he fell (as he would by physics), paused, then flung his arms and legs out and scooted backwards. Robert Horry was then accosted by Raja Bell who ran over as Horry walked away towards his bench. Raja got in Horry's face and THAT was the start of the altercation.

I am not going to argue Bowen's 'tactics' with you or anyone, because it's totally subjective.

And stop pretending the Suns got screwed over by Stern. Or that had it not been for that you would have won. You lost 2 games previously, couldn't pull out a game 5 when the Spurs played like utter shit scrubs because your coach overplayed them and refused to play the bench for just 2 minutes, and then rolled over in game 6.

That's what happened plain and simple. Your team didn't pull it out, just like the Spurs didn't last year against the Mavs.

And unfortunately for you as a fan, your team has chemistry issues that are becoming very apparent and it's clear that you've got people on the block. Maybe that will help, but you won't know until this time next year. The window is certainly closing, just as it is for the Spurs, given the relative ages of our primary players.

[Spider TX]

Since you mentioned it, I went back and checked. There were 18 seconds on the clock. Nash missed one free throw, so the lead was four. Barring the flop, the Spurs had a timeout, and the ball, with a four point deficit at home. They didn't think the game was over. Trust me. Horry wasn't trying to hurt Nash. If he had been, I assure you Nash would have been hurt.

The game was pretty much over in everyones mind as the Suns made it 4, and kept the ball and were fouled again to go to 6. Horry knew it was over so he did what he did.

[thispego]

Most of these fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again, and then beating on a player when the game was over. The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

The Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.
its funny.. suns fans wouldnt know this because they just started watching basketball again. but the spurs have had to deal with their fair share of questionable/BUNK calls over the years. we lost championships due to some of these. sorrys suns, but it's a right of passage. Maybe if you handle it as gracefully as the spurs and spurs fans you might also get to the top of the mountain someday.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY deserved it over him, because the MVP means the most VALUABLE ot his team, and nobody compares to Nash in that category. Now you wanna say best player in the league that year, then Kobe would have about 7 awards, but that's not what the award is. And now most people around the country think he should have gotten his third, as Dirk's numbers were down, but he was valuable to leading his team to 67 wins, so he got the award, but again, Kobe was far and away the best player.
Interesting logic. So does the driver of a school bus deserve an award because he's the only one that can drive?

Nash is the most valuable player on his team because:

1. The coach sucks
2. There's no other point guard on the roster
3. The other stars on the team have a combined basketball IQ of about 90

[Spider TX]

If it was COMPLETELY judged by the voters on purely how valuable the guy is to the team, then it would be between Jason Kidd and Tim Duncan every year.

But the voters DO and always have factored in numbers. Just not in Nash's, because of my previous post. The NBA forgot that all Nash does well is play point guard. It's not like Nash is one of the 10 best PG's ever.

I'm not even going to get into the best PG argument, because most knowledgable analysts will never agree with you. Taking a 29 win team to 62 and the leagues best record in 1 year speaks volumes for that award.

[Corn on the Colb]

Guess what?

The Suns were up, by what, 16 points in Game 5?

And CHOKED.

If they were any type of decent in the playoffs, NASH in particular, we wouldn't have to talk about the suspensions because they'd have beaten the Spurs with their HUGE LEAD.

But, we're here.

[Corn on the Colb]

I'm not even going to get into the best PG argument, because most knowledgable analysts will never agree with you. Taking a 29 win team to 62 and the leagues best record in 1 year speaks volumes for that award.

Would you argue that Nash is a top-tier point guard of all-time?

Because if you did, you'd be wrong.

Magic, Stockton, Thomas, then everyone else.

[Spider TX]

Guess what?

The Suns were up, by what, 16 points in Game 5?

And CHOKED.

If they were any type of decent in the playoffs, NASH in particular, we wouldn't have to talk about the suspensions because they'd have beaten the Spurs with their HUGE LEAD.

But, we're here.

Let's not forget, a shorthanded game 5 where only 6 players played, and yes 6, not 7 because Burke never counts. That's on the coach though because he didn't have enough players playoff ready, but losing a 12 point lead with only 6 players against a pretty much full strength SPurs squad will happen easily. The lead was not 16.

[Obstructed_View]

The game was pretty much over in everyones mind as the Suns made it 4, and kept the ball and were fouled again to go to 6. Horry knew it was over so he did what he did.
Another lie. What you describe above is after the Horry foul. The game was over as soon as Nash got two shots and the ball. Since Horry basically said the reason he fouled Nash was because if Nash got by him the game was over, I'm not sure why you are so sure Horry thought the game was over.

BTW, easjer: There was no inbounds on that play, the Spurs missed a shot. And Finley never made contact. That's why it made sense that Horry was worried about Nash getting past him.

[Spider TX]

Would you argue that Nash is a top-tier point guard of all-time?

Because if you did, you'd be wrong.

Magic, Stockton, Thomas, then everyone else.

I will say those 3 and a couple others are above him, but sure as hell not 10 above him. But like I said, I won;t argue this, its been done before, and too many idiots throw a name like Kidd in there when he is nowhere near Nash, tust me, I know, I watched him too.

[Dave McNulla]

The game was pretty much over in everyones mind as the Suns made it 4, and kept the ball and were fouled again to go to 6. Horry knew it was over so he did what he did.
it was three points. spurs took two more three pointers during the course of the game, which could have tied or taken a lead with some missed free throws.

it was over in your mind, but you don't get to decide for the players. they still had a long shot at winning.

don't you ever tire of being wrong?

[Spider TX]

Another lie. What you describe above is after the Horry foul. The game was over as soon as Nash got two shots and the ball. Since Horry basically said the reason he fouled Nash was because if Nash got by him the game was over, I'm not sure why you are so sure Horry thought the game was over.

BTW, easjer: There was no inbounds on that play, the Spurs missed a shot. And Finley never made contact. That's why it made sense that Horry was worried about Nash getting past him.

Dude, Horry could have fouled, not done what he did, those are different. He was all frustrated and butthurt because his team folded, and he took it to far.

[Obstructed_View]

Let's not forget, a shorthanded game 5 where only 6 players played, and yes 6, not 7 because Burke never counts. That's on the coach though because he didn't have enough players playoff ready, but losing a 12 point lead with only 6 players against a pretty much full strength SPurs squad will happen easily. The lead was not 16.
Are you starting to sense a pattern here? Why is it you always have an excuse for losing? At what point do you just man the fuck up? You are a puss, and I'm so glad that basketball karma keeps slapping your team in the face with its dick.

[Spider TX]

Are you starting to sense a pattern here? Why is it you always have an excuse for losing? At what point do you just man the fuck up? You are a puss, and I'm so glad that basketball karma keeps slapping your team in the face with its dick.

Well when some Jazz moron tries to compare losing a 12 point lead in that situation to potentially losing the small lead with 18 seconds to go, I will say that. I have said many times before, the Suns lost game 5 because of bad coaching and missing key shots, plain and simple.

[Corn on the Colb]

I will say those 3 and a couple others are above him, but sure as hell not 10 above him. But like I said, I won;t argue this, its been done before, and too many idiots throw a name like Kidd in there when he is nowhere near Nash, tust me, I know, I watched him too.

Did you say Nash's career > Kidd's career?

Please don't tell me you are that bad of a homer.

[GSH]

it was three points. spurs took two more three pointers during the course of the game, which could have tied or taken a lead with some missed free throws.

it was over in your mind, but you don't get to decide for the players. they still had a long shot at winning.

don't you ever tire of being wrong?

Owned!!! Just plain-old fucking owned!!!

[Obstructed_View]

Dude, Horry could have fouled, not done what he did, those are different. He was all frustrated and butthurt because his team folded, and he took it to far.
How? What did Horry do that was so egregious? He didn't put his elbow up. He looked like he was either going to draw a charge or set a pick. He threw his weight into it at the end. He turned around and walked away as soon as he did it. Everything else that happened after that is on your team.

I'm so tired of owning you guys. You are the weakest fan base, by far, in the history of sports.

[Spider TX]

Did you say Nash's career > Kidd's career?

Please don't tell me you are that bad of a homer.

Yes, I will say that all day, and I'm a huge Kidd fan as well. Remember, he spent the years in Phoenix, and was shipped, which was a very unpopular move in Phoenix. I will always stick by great players who wore that uniform, and Kidd did for longer, but he still was never the PG Nash has become.

[Obstructed_View]

Well when some Jazz moron tries to compare losing a 12 point lead in that situation to potentially losing the small lead with 18 seconds to go, I will say that. I have said many times before, the Suns lost game 5 because of bad coaching and missing key shots, plain and simple.
Uh, dude, it's a valid point. The Suns and Spurs each came back from deficits in that series, so the idea that either team thought game 4 was over is laughable.

The Jazz moron is owning you. Something about knowing more about basketball than you do.

[Corn on the Colb]

Well when some Jazz moron tries to compare losing a 12 point lead in that situation to potentially losing the small lead with 18 seconds to go, I will say that. I have said many times before, the Suns lost game 5 because of bad coaching and missing key shots, plain and simple.

I never compared it to potentially losing a lead with 18 seconds left.

What the fuck are you talking about? Don't put words in my mouth dipshit.

The fact is, the Suns, regardless of the situation, had a double figure lead and lost it. LOST. Who cares why? THEY LOST AND COULD HAVE WON WITHOUT AMARE. They played a whole season without Amare and made it farther. He obviously wasn't THAT vital. They still could have won. And lost. Why you think they lost is irrelevant.

And the biggest lead was 16. I'm no idiot. I remember this shit. Look it up.

[Spider TX]

How? What did Horry do that was so egregious? He didn't put his elbow up. He looked like he was either going to draw a charge or set a pick. He threw his weight into it at the end. He turned around and walked away as soon as he did it. Everything else that happened after that is on your team.

I'm so tired of owning you guys. You are the weakest fan base, by far, in the history of sports.
Horry laid his shoulder in like the BITCH he is, and always has been. Bell came to the defense of his teammate who was knocked down, and then Horry made another BITCH move and elbowed him. The rest of it is on the Suns from there with Amare and Diaw, but it will always be the little girl Horry who got it all going because he couldn't handle losing like a man.

[Obstructed_View]

Yes, I will say that all day, and I'm a huge Kidd fan as well. Remember, he spent the years in Phoenix, and was shipped, which was a very unpopular move in Phoenix. I will always stick by great players who wore that uniform, and Kidd did for longer, but he still was never the PG Nash has become.
Kidd was traded for Marbury because he got arrested for hitting his wife. He's still the best point guard the Suns have ever had. Nash has an outside chance of becoming the third best point guard the Suns have ever had if he plays well the next couple of years.

[Corn on the Colb]

Yes, I will say that all day, and I'm a huge Kidd fan as well. Remember, he spent the years in Phoenix, and was shipped, which was a very unpopular move in Phoenix. I will always stick by great players who wore that uniform, and Kidd did for longer, but he still was never the PG Nash has become.

Nash has been this player for a whopping 3 years.

Kidd, however, was Jason Kidd for his ENTIRE CAREER.

You think Nash's CAREER, with all 3 of the good seasons in it, is better than Kidd's?

Wow. Just wow.

[easjer]

Another lie. What you describe above is after the Horry foul. The game was over as soon as Nash got two shots and the ball. Since Horry basically said the reason he fouled Nash was because if Nash got by him the game was over, I'm not sure why you are so sure Horry thought the game was over.

BTW, easjer: There was no inbounds on that play, the Spurs missed a shot. And Finley never made contact. That's why it made sense that Horry was worried about Nash getting past him.


My apologies, OV. You are correct, but I would swear that Finley made contact without the foul being called. I will go with your recollection.

It doesn't change the fact that Horry gave a clear, impossible not to call foul in the form of a body-check, with arms at his sides.

THAT won't hurt a player and it is clear that Horry's intention was not to hurt Nash.

Compare to Raja Bell's altercations with Kobe.

You aren't going to hurt someone with a body check, particularly when both his feet are on the ground. Knock him down, maybe. But if he wanted to harm Nash, he could have. Just by throwing an elbow or putting an arm in his way.

[Spider TX]

Uh, dude, it's a valid point. The Suns and Spurs each came back from deficits in that series, so the idea that either team thought game 4 was over is laughable.

The Jazz moron is owning you. Something about knowing more about basketball than you do.

The Jazz fan doesn't know shit. He thinks they deserve something for making it that far, because he really knows that team isn't that good, and wants to be rewarded.

[Corn on the Colb]

Horry laid his shoulder in like the BITCH he is, and always has been. Bell came to the defense of his teammate who was knocked down, and then Horry made another BITCH move and elbowed him. The rest of it is on the Suns from there with Amare and Diaw, but it will always be the little girl Horry who got it all going because he couldn't handle losing like a man.

Apparently you and Big Shot Rob have something in common.

[Spider TX]

Nash has been this player for a whopping 3 years.

Kidd, however, was Jason Kidd for his ENTIRE CAREER.

You think Nash's CAREER, with all 3 of the good seasons in it, is better than Kidd's?

Wow. Just wow.

And you thinking Nash was nothing in Dallas is laughable. He feuled that team as well when they started to become good. But with you not knowing much about it all, of course you won't consider that. And I hate the Mavs, but he was good there, just better in Phoenix.

[Corn on the Colb]

The Jazz fan doesn't know shit. He thinks they deserve something for making it that far, because he really knows that team isn't that good, and wants to be rewarded.

I don't want to get rewarded for losing. We ended the season losers.

But what I want you to know is we got to lose in a round you didn't participate in.

[Corn on the Colb]

And you thinking Nash was nothing in Dallas is laughable. He feuled that team as well when they started to become good. But with you not knowing much about it all, of course you won't consider that. And I hate the Mavs, but he was good there, just better in Phoenix.

He wasn't an elite point guard in the league.

He was a good starter.

Not a guy whose career is compared to Jason Kidd's. Especially not with his Dallas numbers.

[Spider TX]

I don't want to get rewarded for losing. We ended the season losers.

But what I want you to know is we got to lose in a round you didn't participate in.

And participated in it the previous 2 seasons while not getting that easy second round your boys did.

[Corn on the Colb]

And participated in it the previous 2 seasons while not getting that easy second round your boys did.

If we made beating down the hottest team in the league in 5 games look easy, more power to us.

Go Jazz!!

[Obstructed_View]

Horry laid his shoulder in like the BITCH he is, and always has been. Bell came to the defense of his teammate who was knocked down, and then Horry made another BITCH move and elbowed him. The rest of it is on the Suns from there with Amare and Diaw, but it will always be the little girl Horry who got it all going because he couldn't handle losing like a man.
Horry laid his shoulder into what? He hit Nash with his hip. Horry was defending himself from Bell.

Funny that you mention Horry not being able to lose like a man. Nobody knows more about that than you and your team.

[Spider TX]

He wasn't an elite point guard in the league.

He was a good starter.

Not a guy whose career is compared to Jason Kidd's. Especially not with his Dallas numbers.

Go and look, his Dallas numbers were pretty good, better than Kidd's a few of the Dallas years.

[Spider TX]

If we made beating down the hottest team in the league in 5 games look easy, more power to us.

Go Jazz!!

They were never the hottest team in the league. As I have stated before, they won against a team they matched up great against. And Warrior fan will tell you that. They really never had much chance against the Jazz, they were a far inferior team.

[Spider TX]

Horry laid his shoulder into what? He hit Nash with his hip. Horry was defending himself from Bell.

Funny that you mention Horry not being able to lose like a man. Nobody knows more about that than you and your team.

Go watch, and look closely as his shoulder is lowered into Nash. The world saw it, why didn't you?

[mavs>spurs2]

WTF DaveMcNulla is a mav fan over at mavtalk....why are u posing as a spur fan

[Spurminator]

The Phoenix Suns are the new ___ramento Kings. Losing wasn't their fault, it was everyone else's, and just wait till next year when they prove that they are the true WC Champs, except that the refs and the league are going to job them or some shit.

[Corn on the Colb]

I don't need to look at Nash's numbers, Spider.

I know he hovered around 17 and 7 in his later years in Dallas.

Isn't that about what a player like Jason Terry does? I mean, 17 and 7 is solid, but not worthy of launching Nash into the top 10 of all-time.

He needs to play about 5 more years like he is now to be compared to Stockton. And he'd still be worse.

[Obstructed_View]

And you thinking Nash was nothing in Dallas is laughable. He feuled that team as well when they started to become good. But with you not knowing much about it all, of course you won't consider that. And I hate the Mavs, but he was good there, just better in Phoenix.
And the Mavericks were better after he left.

[Spider TX]

The Phoenix Suns are the new ___ramento Kings. Losing wasn't their fault, it was everyone else's, and just wait till next year when they prove that they are the true WC Champs, except that the refs and the league are going to job them or some shit.

Hey, we all took losing in real clean games the past 2 yeas, but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series, of course nobody will just take it, because it wasn't a clean series played by the Spurs. You would all say the same damn thing with roles reversed.

[Corn on the Colb]

They were never the hottest team in the league. As I have stated before, they won against a team they matched up great against. And Warrior fan will tell you that. They really never had much chance against the Jazz, they were a far inferior team.

They won 9 of 10 to end the season, and then took out a 67-win championship favorite in 6.

If that's not the hottest team, who was?

And we all know anyone from the East doesn't count.

[Spider TX]

I don't need to look at Nash's numbers, Spider.

I know he hovered around 17 and 7 in his later years in Dallas.

Isn't that about what a player like Jason Terry does? I mean, 17 and 7 is solid, but not worthy of launching Nash into the top 10 of all-time.

He needs to play about 5 more years like he is now to be compared to Stockton. And he'd still be worse.

I wasn't completely comparing him to Stockton, but better than Kidd. And a couple awards to boot.

[Spider TX]

And Stoclton never scored what Nash did, but had more assists, and Nash is ahead in every other category. Stockton had one category better than Nash, so how can you call him that much greater, unless of course you are being that much of a homer.

[ATRAIN]

Hey, we all took losing in real clean games the past 2 yeas, but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series, of course nobody will just take it, because it wasn't a clean series played by the Spurs. You would all say the same damn thing with roles reversed.


BLAH BLAH BLAH quit your bitching....fuck your just as bad as your whiny bitch coach....your season is over, face the facts. Yeah it was a rough series, that was that, its not our fault your guys are pussies.

[Spurminator]

Hey, we all took losing in real clean games the past 2 yeas, but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series, of course nobody will just take it, because it wasn't a clean series played by the Spurs. You would all say the same damn thing with roles reversed.

When we were getting roughed up by the Utah Jazz in the Nineties, not everybody liked it but we didn't make excuses. We demanded the Spurs match that kind of physical intensity.

You guys think the NBA needs to change the rules to accommodate your style of play (or brainfarts, in Amare and Boris' case) and eliminate obstacles for you. That's not how it works.

[Corn on the Colb]

I wasn't completely comparing him to Stockton, but better than Kidd. And a couple awards to boot.

Kidd > Nash.

You realize when you told me to compare both of their Dallas numbers that Kidd's regime in Dallas was the first 3 years of his career? One of which he got hurt and played only 22 games?

He had a better season in his 2nd year than Nash ever had at Dallas. 17 and 10 I think he had. Kidd averages 15, 9, and 7. FOR HIS CAREER.

Kidd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nash.

[Spider TX]

They won 9 of 10 to end the season, and then took out a 67-win championship favorite in 6.

If that's not the hottest team, who was?

And we all know anyone from the East doesn't count.

Ok, take out the East, fair enough, but nobody in their right mind seriously thought the Wariors had really any chance to win 2 rounds, after spending all their energy to win that first one.

[Spider TX]

Kidd > Nash.

You realize when you told me to compare both of their Dallas numbers that Kidd's regime in Dallas was the first 3 years of his career? One of which he got hurt and played only 22 games?

He had a better season in his 2nd year than Nash ever had at Dallas. 17 and 10 I think he had. Kidd averages 15, 9, and 7. FOR HIS CAREER.

Kidd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nash.

No, I said compare the same years, like 2002 to 2002 not Dallas years to Dallas years. Kidd is not quite to Nash's level.

[Spider TX]

When we were getting roughed up by the Utah Jazz in the Nineties, not everybody liked it but we didn't make excuses. We demanded the Spurs match that kind of physical intensity.

You guys think the NBA needs to change the rules to accommodate your style of play (or brainfarts, in Amare and Boris' case) and eliminate obstacles for you. That's not how it works.

I never said the NBA had to change now did I?

[Corn on the Colb]

And Stoclton never scored what Nash did, but had more assists, and Nash is ahead in every other category. Stockton had one category better than Nash, so how can you call him that much greater, unless of course you are being that much of a homer.

Speaking of being a homer.....

Good lord buddy. Stockton averaged 17+ for 3 years straight. WHILE averaging at least 13.6 assists. One of those years, he averaged 14.5 assists, still an NBA record. Nash has averaged over 17 points 4 different seasons. Never even 3 straight. The most he's averaged is 18.8, last year. 18.8 is only 1.5 points ahead of 17.2, Stockton's career high average.

But after all, scoring is where Nash OWNS Stockton, right?

[SpursIndonesia]

Hail to the Suns, the people champs. :lol

I'll take the * bling-bling any day of the century. :smokin

[Corn on the Colb]

No, I said compare the same years, like 2002 to 2002 not Dallas years to Dallas years. Kidd is not quite to Nash's level.

Why don't you go look at ESPN's predictions for the Warriors-Jazz series.

The Jazz apparently 'couldn't run' with the Warriors. Can't score with them, even though we were the 7th highest scoring team in the league during the season.

We ran with them in their place (the one that's not as loud as Energy Solutions Arena), and beat them down. In 5. The majority chose the W's. It's called a bandwagon, and we derailed it.

[Spider TX]

And all other categories. Stockton had more assists, Nash scores more, more rebounds, better from the line, stuff like that. And 2 awards to go with it.

[Spider TX]

and Nash never had a dominant inside man to give the ball to till now.

[Obstructed_View]

Hey, we all took losing in real clean games the past 2 yeas, but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series, of course nobody will just take it, because it wasn't a clean series played by the Spurs. You would all say the same damn thing with roles reversed.

All what shit? What exactly wasn't called in your favor?

Nash fouls Parker after Parker picks his pocket and cuts his nose. He is allowed to stay in the game and score five points with blood gushing out of his face, is continually allowed back into the game even though he's wiping his bloody face off with his jersey, clearly in violation of the NBA's blood rule...

Amare gets the back of his shoe stepped on while going up for a dunk. He doesn't miss the dunk and Bowen isn't whistled for a foul...

Nash crowds Bowen for some unfathomable reason, and falls to the ground after Bowen clears him out (in what every basketball player I saw called a good play on Bowen's part). Bowen is called for the offensive foul.

Horry hard fouls Steve Nash at the end of a game. Nash sells the contact and convinces the refs to call it a flagrant 2. Horry is ejected from the game and suspended. Nash gets two free throws and the ball, pretty much sealing the victory.

Raja Bell rushes at Robert Horry, who puts up his arm to defend himself, and makes contact with the shorter Bell above the shoulders. Horry is suspended for an additional game.

From the above examples, the only play that the Suns didn't benefit from is Bowen stepping on Amare's foot, which the Suns used as an example of how dirty a player Bruce Bowen is, probably buying them a few calls they otherwise wouldn't have gotten. What's your problem? How much more do you want?

Oh yeah, you wanted the NBA to violate the rules even further so Amare and Diaw could play.

[Spider TX]

Why don't you go look at ESPN's predictions for the Warriors-Jazz series.

The Jazz apparently 'couldn't run' with the Warriors. Can't score with them, even though we were the 7th highest scoring team in the league during the season.

We ran with them in their place (the one that's not as loud as Energy Solutions Arena), and beat them down. In 5. The majority chose the W's. It's called a bandwagon, and we derailed it.

There was no beating down abaout it, just winning. The Warrior's could have easily stole games 1 and 2, and been up 3-0, but they were not as good as the Jazz, and lost.

[Spider TX]

All what shit? What exactly wasn't called in your favor?

Nash fouls Parker after Parker picks his pocket and cuts his nose. He is allowed to stay in the game and score five points with blood gushing out of his face, is continually allowed back into the game even though he's wiping his bloody face off with his jersey, clearly in violation of the NBA's blood rule...

Amare gets the back of his shoe stepped on while going up for a dunk. He doesn't miss the dunk and Bowen isn't whistled for a foul...

Nash crowds Bowen for some unfathomable reason, and falls to the ground after Bowen clears him out (in what every basketball player I saw called a good play on Bowen's part). Bowen is called for the offensive foul.

Horry hard fouls Steve Nash at the end of a game. Nash sells the contact and convinces the refs to call it a flagrant 2. Horry is ejected from the game and suspended. Nash gets two free throws and the ball, pretty much sealing the victory.

Raja Bell rushes at Robert Horry, who puts up his arm to defend himself, and makes contact with the shorter Bell above the shoulders. Horry is suspended for an additional game.

From the above examples, the only play that the Suns didn't benefit from is Bowen stepping on Amare's foot, which the Suns used as an example of how dirty a player Bruce Bowen is, probably buying them a few calls they otherwise wouldn't have gotten. What's your problem? How much more do you want?

Oh yeah, you wanted the NBA to violate the rules even further so Amare and Diaw could play.

Headbutt by Parker, knee to the groin by Bowen, stepping on Amare's heel by Bowen, but of course you are so fucking close minded that you think the Spurs are little angels and dod nothing wrong. Open you fucking eyes, or shut up.

[Obstructed_View]

Hail to the Suns, the people conference finalists.
Fixed. Utah would have crushed them.

[Corn on the Colb]

And all other categories. Stockton had more assists, Nash scores more, more rebounds, better from the line, stuff like that. And 2 awards to go with it.

Nash averages 2.9 boards for his career. Stockton averages 2.7

Nash shoots 89% from the line, Stockton 83%.

Nash averages .8 steals. Stockton 2.2.

Nash has shot 48% over his career. Stockton shot 52% from the field.

Not to mention that Stockton averaged 10.5 assists. Nash averages 7.6 over his career.

You're right.

Nash shoots 6% better at the line and gets .2 more boards.

Not to mention, Stockton has 2 TITLE APPEARANCES to go with it.

He doesn't care about MVP's.

[Spider TX]

Fixed. Utah would have crushed them.
Utah would have never stood a chance, wake up.

[Corn on the Colb]

There was no beating down abaout it, just winning. The Warrior's could have easily stole games 1 and 2, and been up 3-0, but they were not as good as the Jazz, and lost.

4-1 is a beatdown.

Exhibit A: Western Conference Finals, Spurs vs. Jazz.

[Corn on the Colb]

Utah would have never stood a chance, wake up.

Explain who would stop the Jazz inside. Outside. Who would rebound or play defense against the Jazz.

EXPLAIN some of these wild guesses.

[Obstructed_View]

Headbutt by Parker, knee to the groin by Bowen, stepping on Amare's heel by Bowen, but of course you are so fucking close minded that you think the Spurs are little angels and dod nothing wrong. Open you fucking eyes, or shut up.
Nash was called for the foul on Parker, douche. He initiated the contact.
Bowen was called for the foul on Nash, douche. Nash initiated the contact.
Bowen wasn't called for stepping on Amare. There wasn't really any contact.

Don't you get tired of being owned?

[Spider TX]

Nash averages 2.9 boards for his career. Stockton averages 2.7

Nash shoots 89% from the line, Stockton 83%.

Nash averages .8 steals. Stockton 2.2.

Nash has shot 48% over his career. Stockton shot 52% from the field.

Not to mention that Stockton averaged 10.5 assists. Nash averages 7.6 over his career.

You're right.

Nash shoots 6% better at the line and gets .2 more boards.

Not to mention, Stockton has 2 TITLE APPEARANCES to go with it.

He doesn't care about MVP's.

Appearances, no TITLES either, and still no MVP's. and that is 7% better from the line. And Nash is a much better 3 point shooter.

[Obstructed_View]

Utah would have never stood a chance, wake up.
The Jazz are a better team. I watched the Spurs play both of them. The Spurs beat the Suns without playing particularly well.

[Spider TX]

Nash was called for the foul on Parker, douche. He initiated the contact.
Bowen was called for the foul on Nash, douche. Nash initiated the contact.
Bowen wasn't called for stepping on Amare. There wasn't really any contact.

Don't you get tired of being owned?

You are the biggest fucking idiot roaming this board. Time to put your stupid ass on ignore. Parker headbutts him, the world saw it, but gets away with it. Bowen knees Nash, and again, the world saw it, but gets away with it. Again, the world saw Bowen kick Amare, but he gets away with it. You are the one being owned, but you are far too stupid to realize anything. Just because it wasn't called, doesn't mean nothing happened you morong. Go and watch, but even then you refuse to believe you are ever wrong.

[SRJ]

:lol Have to laugh at Suns fan saying Nash > Kidd.

Jason Kidd made two Finals dragging Kenyon Martin with him. Richard Jefferson does a few nice dunks here and there.

Amare>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KMart
Marion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jefferson

and yet Nash deserves credit for being a better PG than Kidd? Kidd would have gotten to at least one Finals with Amare and Marion by now.

Nash is a very good player for his career, and has been great these last two seasons - but Kidd>>>Nash.

[Corn on the Colb]

Appearances, no TITLES either, and still no MVP's. and that is 7% better from the line. And Nash is a much better 3 point shooter.

LMAO. 89-83 is 6. HAHAHA!!!

And about the no titles....Nash and Stockton DO have something in common after all.

At least Stockton could get there.

And he only had one guy to pass to. Nash has had Joe Johnson, Marion, Stoudemire, Raja Bell, Eddie House (lets it rain), etc. etc...

[Spider TX]

The Jazz are a better team. I watched the Spurs play both of them. The Spurs beat the Suns without playing particularly well.

Again, you being a complete idiot. The Suns get 2 games, the Jazz 1, and the Suns should have gotten 3 had they not missed a couple key shots in game 5. The Jazz are nowhere near the Suns. Wake the fuck up you tool.

[Spider TX]

LMAO. 89-83 is 6. HAHAHA!!!

And about the no titles....Nash and Stockton DO have something in common after all.

At least Stockton could get there.

And he only had one guy to pass to. Nash has had Joe Johnson, Marion, Stoudemire, Raja Bell, Eddie House (lets it rain), etc. etc...

You idiot, Stockton is 82.6, but you rounded it up. Nash is 98.6, so I rounded up, or without rounding up, exactly 7% better. Stockton got there during a few weak years in the West, and a dominant power forward in his 30's with experience.

[Corn on the Colb]

Again, you being a complete idiot. The Suns get 2 games, the Jazz 1, and the Suns should have gotten 3 had they not missed a couple key shots in game 5. The Jazz are nowhere near the Suns. Wake the fuck up you tool.

Did you not hear the man who watches the Spurs all year every year?

They weren't even playing up to par in the series against the Suns.

And beat them.

Demoralized them.

They're screwed for the next few years.

Smallball blows.

[Spider TX]

And I said he's a complete idiot, as Duncan and Ginobili could not possibly play any better. The Spurs didn't shoot very well in game 5, but played well in every other game, and still lost twice. And they were completely outplayed in game 2. Trying to say they didn't play well is laughable.

[DarkReign]

So instead let both team brawl it out?

Yep. What? You afraid one of the girls will break a nail?

Or is it the reality that no team would fight 1 on 1?

If it isnt 3 on 1, NBA players have no interest in fighting.

[Spider TX]

Did you not hear the man who watches the Spurs all year every year?

They weren't even playing up to par in the series against the Suns.

And beat them.

Demoralized them.

They're screwed for the next few years.

Smallball blows.

Smallball is far superior to anything the Jazz can even hope to throw out there. Good luck hoping your team can even begin to hang with the 3 dominant west teams, just won't happen anytime soon.

[Corn on the Colb]

You idiot, Stockton is 82.6, but you rounded it up. Nash is 98.6, so I rounded up, or without rounding up, exactly 7% better. Stockton got there during a few weak years in the West, and a dominant power forward in his 30's with experience.

My bad, I glanced quickly and thought it said 89.0. Either way, I typed 89 and 83, and you said, "Hey, it's not 6, it's SEVEN!" Confirming your pea-brain.

Stockton didn't have experience? Malone was the only one?

We lose to MJ, you lost to Dirk!

[Corn on the Colb]

Smallball is far superior to anything the Jazz can even hope to throw out there. Good luck hoping your team can even begin to hang with the 3 dominant west teams, just won't happen anytime soon.

It won't happen anytime soon, you mean like the way it just barely happened?

Smallball is superior to the Jazz?

Hmm....Who are the two best small-ball teams.....Suns...and Warriors...

The Jazz were 7-2 against those two teams this year. They eliminated one of them and advanced further than the other in the playoffs.

Superior?

[Spider TX]

My bad, I glanced quickly and thought it said 89.0. Either way, I typed 89 and 83, and you said, "Hey, it's not 6, it's SEVEN!" Confirming your pea-brain.

Stockton didn't have experience? Malone was the only one?

We lose to MJ, you lost to Dirk!

I proved you wrong, just accept it instead of attempting to bash me again. And the Suns lost to Dirk minus Amare all year, let's not compare. Yes, they lost to Jordan, and that's better, but can't even start comparing when the Suns were never full strength.

[Obstructed_View]

You are the biggest fucking idiot roaming this board. Time to put your stupid ass on ignore. Parker headbutts him, the world saw it, but gets away with it.
Nash got called for a foul. Parker had the ball. Nash reached in. It's called initiating the contact. Not my fault you don't know the rules.


Bowen knees Nash, and again, the world saw it, but gets away with it.
Again, Bowen got called for a foul, and it was a bad call at that. What more do you want? Oh yeah, your team politicked the league to have Bowen suspended. Can't win with the guys you've got on the floor. I forgot.


Again, the world saw Bowen kick Amare, but he gets away with it.
The world didn't see it. Amare had to tell the world about it by crying about how dirty the Spurs are. That whole "can't win without help" thing again.


You are the one being owned, but you are far too stupid to realize anything. Just because it wasn't called, doesn't mean nothing happened you morong. Go and watch, but even then you refuse to believe you are ever wrong.
So of all the shit you are bitching about, you want a clear foul on Nash to be a call on Parker instead, and you want Amare to get an and-1 on the foul by Bowen. Does that one point and change of possession change the outcome of the series? No.

[Spurminator]

I never said the NBA had to change now did I?


You're asking the league to step in and do something about incidental headbutts and minor ankle contact, along with suspensions for offensive fouls, while at the same time expecting them to make exceptions on a 10-year old rule about leaving the bench just because your team didn't commit the foul that led to the incident.

You're begging the NBA to change, you pussy.

[Obstructed_View]

Again, you being a complete idiot. The Suns get 2 games, the Jazz 1, and the Suns should have gotten 3 had they not missed a couple key shots in game 5. The Jazz are nowhere near the Suns. Wake the fuck up you tool.
The Spurs didn't play very well against Phoenix and still won easily. The Spurs gave away one game and Horry's foul sealed the other. The Suns were lucky not to get swept.

[Corn on the Colb]

I proved you wrong, just accept it instead of attempting to bash me again. And the Suns lost to Dirk minus Amare all year, let's not compare. Yes, they lost to Jordan, and that's better, but can't even start comparing when the Suns were never full strength.

Proved me wrong on what? How? What have you proved?

You've only proved Suns fans are just retarded and will bitch about this now and forever.

[Spider TX]

The Spurs didn't play very well against Phoenix and still won easily. The Spurs gave away one game and Horry's foul sealed the other. The Suns were lucky not to get swept.

All of the big 3 for the Spurs had better than regular season numbers and their best series of the 3 so far, so yes, the Spurs played quite well. You are an idiot beyond belief.

[Obstructed_View]

It won't happen anytime soon, you mean like the way it just barely happened?

Smallball is superior to the Jazz?

Hmm....Who are the two best small-ball teams.....Suns...and Warriors...

The Jazz were 7-2 against those two teams this year. They eliminated one of them and advanced further than the other in the playoffs.

Superior?
The Spurs small lineup had their way with the Suns. Just so you know...

[Spider TX]

Proved me wrong on what? How? What have you proved?

You've only proved Suns fans are just retarded and will bitch about this now and forever.

Even if a little point, I showed you the differential in free throw percentage, in which you tried to laugh at me like a fool.

[Spurminator]

All of the big 3 for the Spurs had better than regular season numbers and their best series of the 3 so far, so yes, the Spurs played quite well. You are an idiot beyond belief.

Maybe that's because they were playing the Phoenix Suns

[Corn on the Colb]

Even if a little point, I showed you the differential in free throw percentage, in which you tried to laugh at me like a fool.

You saw 89 and 83. I said the difference was six. You said it was seven.

I laughed.

[Corn on the Colb]

The Spurs small lineup had their way with the Suns. Just so you know...

Haha. I believe it.

Because smallball teams suck ass.

[Obstructed_View]

All of the big 3 for the Spurs had better than regular season numbers and their best series of the 3 so far, so yes, the Spurs played quite well. You are an idiot beyond belief.
I thought you had me on ignore. Hm. I knew you were full of shit.

The Spurs had their best series against Utah. The only time the Spurs played fairly well against Phoenix was in game 6, which was a blowout. The reason the Spurs players had better numbers is just because Phoenix can't play defense. (Doesn't exactly make your case for you)

[Spider TX]

You saw 89 and 83. I said the difference was six. You said it was seven.

I laughed.

And I was right. I never said the difference between 89 and 83 was 7, I said the real difference was seven. You laughed and were proved wrong.

[Spider TX]

Geez, Finley and Bowen's numbers were also the best that series. They could not have played any better, and still lost 2, and nearly a 3rd.

[SRJ]

Again, you being a complete idiot. The Suns get 2 games, the Jazz 1, and the Suns should have gotten 3 had they not missed a couple key shots in game 5.

SING IT, SUNS FAN!

Weeeee
are the champions,
of what if,
but we've gotten screwed
in the end

we are the champions
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
we're never losers
cause we got the shaft in
every loss

[Spider TX]

I thought you had me on ignore. Hm. I knew you were full of shit.

The Spurs had their best series against Utah. The only time the Spurs played fairly well against Phoenix was in game 6, which was a blowout. The reason the Spurs players had better numbers is just because Phoenix can't play defense. (Doesn't exactly make your case for you)

Go and read quotes, and what analysts say, they all say their best play was round 2

[Corn on the Colb]

And I was right. I never said the difference between 89 and 83 was 7, I said the real difference was seven. You laughed and were proved wrong.

I know. But I laughed because it looked like, before you saved face, you were trying to correct me for saying it was a six percent difference.

The fact you have to take THIS as your 'victory' shows you have no confidence in even your own arguments.

Kidd > Nash.

Jeffrey Jordan > Nash.

[Corn on the Colb]

Go and read quotes, and what analysts say, they all say their best play was round 2

You think their numbers were up because your Suns can't play D?

If you were to watch all the games, you'd see the Spurs played absolutely possessed for the majority of the Jazz series.

Shut the fuck up.

[smeagol]

Hey, we all took losing in real clean games the past 2 yeas, but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series, of course nobody will just take it, because it wasn't a clean series played by the Spurs. You would all say the same damn thing with roles reversed.

For Christ's sake, shut the fuck up, man!

You are coming across as the whinniest bitch in the entire forum (and that is saying something given the amount of Mavs, Nuggets and other Suns fans posting here).

"but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series"

What shit, asshole? The Spurs did not suspend Amare the moron and Boris the idiot. They were to stupid to follow a simple rule. And the one who started the incident, got a two games suspension.

Your shitty team, in game 5, was up by 12 in the 4th and choked.

And what about game 6? Your precious Suns had acomplete roster. And they folded their tents.

I bet you most knowledgeable basketball fans would predict the Spurs beating the Suns even without the suspension.

Bottom line is you guys lost. Just like in '05, the Spurs were simply too good.

[Corn on the Colb]

For Christ's sake, shut the fuck up, man!

You are coming across as the whinniest bitch in the entire forum (and that is saying something given the amount of Mavs, Nuggets and other Suns fans posting here).

"but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series"

What shit, asshole? The Spurs did not suspend Amare the moron and Boris the idiot. They were to stupid to follow a simple rule. And the one who started the incident, got a two games suspension.

Your shitty team, in game 5, was up by 12 in the 4th and choked.

And what about game 6? Your precious Suns had acomplete roster. And they folded their tents.

I bet you most knowledgeable basketball fans would predict the Spurs beating the Suns even without the suspension.

Bottom line is you guys lost. Just like in '05, the Spurs were simply too good.


Gone fishin'!

[ATRAIN]

For Christ's sake, shut the fuck up, man!

You are coming across as the whinniest bitch in the entire forum (and that is saying something given the amount of Mavs, Nuggets and other Suns fans posting here).

"but then all the shit that the Spurs pull during that series"

What shit, asshole? The Spurs did not suspend Amare the moron and Boris the idiot. They were to stupid to follow a simple rule. And the one who started the incident, got a two games suspension.

Your shitty team, in game 5, was up by 12 in the 4th and choked.

And what about game 6? Your precious Suns had acomplete roster. And they folded their tents.

I bet you most knowledgeable basketball fans would predict the Spurs beating the Suns even without the suspension.

Bottom line is you guys lost. Just like in '05, the Spurs were simply too good.


Yeah no joke..... we are going to call you D'antoni's bitch

[Corn on the Colb]

Spider, you're getting as owned as this guy:

http://www.whitescarver.com/erinjeff/Owned/owned-baby.jpg

[shelshor]

If those damned old Spurs would just disappear, there are so many teams that could win a title.......

And can you blame them for crying? I mean, after all the Spurs already have 3. How many do they want?
17

[Obstructed_View]

Go and read quotes, and what analysts say, they all say their best play was round 2
I know more about the Spurs than the analysts do, because I actually watch the Spurs play. The Suns just made the Spurs look good, and vice versa. The Nuggets were a tougher out than the Suns were. It's lucky that the Cavs made the finals because it makes the Suns the third best team the Spurs have faced instead of the fourth. Except that the Cavs play really good defense so I might change that ranking after game one.

[Dave McNulla]

WTF DaveMcNulla is a mav fan over at mavtalk....why are u posing as a spur fan
you must have seen my name, but didn't read anything i wrote. i'm a spurs fan, been since the 70's.

[hater]

LMAO at the pathetic sunfan still crying

[Obstructed_View]

you must have seen my name, but didn't read anything i wrote. i'm a spurs fan, been since the 70's.
Somebody may have seen you on Usenet and copped your name. Do you post on Mavtalk?

[jag]

And I was right. I never said the difference between 89 and 83 was 7, I said the real difference was seven. You laughed and were proved wrong.


haha you guys really are entertaining

:corn:

keep going please :clap

[Corn on the Colb]

haha you guys really are entertaining

:corn:

keep going please :clap

Haha.

I know. He stopped it looks like. Unless he's writing a page about how he knows what 89-83 is. LOL.

[BlackFlagg]

I guarantee you the Suns win a title very soon, but like I said, nobody will sack up and say they were wrong when that happens very soon. And think again, the Suns have a TON of fans outside of Arizona, as I do not even live there anymore, and see fans everywhere. I understand your need to bash other teams like that because NOBODY gives a flying fuck about the Spurs outside of San Antonio, and you all can't handle that.


"Can't handle that?" We relish it, dumbass.

Still with your whiny, crybaby, "wah wah wah my team got beat up by dat big ol' bad Robert Horry wah wah wah."

Are all Suns fans big pussies like you? No wonder your idiot team keeps getting knocked out of the finals. Karma, baby! Suck up your losses like everyone else does. That Corn guy from Utah is very cool. Take some lessons.

[Corn on the Colb]

"Can't handle that?" We relish it, dumbass.

Still with your whiny, crybaby, "wah wah wah my team got beat up by dat big ol' bad Robert Horry wah wah wah."

Are all Suns fans big pussies like you? No wonder your idiot team keeps getting knocked out of the finals. Karma, baby! Suck up your losses like everyone else does. That Corn guy from Utah is very cool. Take some lessons.

I'm from Nevada!

Teehee. Get it right. :D

[jag]

I'm from Nevada!

Teehee. Get it right. :D

but at least you take your losses like a man :flag:

[jag]

Come back Spider TX and defend your teams honor!

:lmao

[Corn on the Colb]

but at least you take your losses like a man :flag:

Indeed I do.

Suns fans don't, because of that whole 'man' requirement.

[BlackFlagg]

I'm from Nevada!

Teehee. Get it right. :D

eh.. Whatever. You still know your basketball. (Sorry for calling you "that Corn guy".. couldn't think of your handle.)

To that Suns Troll, not that it even needs to be said: the Jazz would have kicked the dogshit out of the Suns. :lol :lol

[jag]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: Spider TX

:lmao

[Corn on the Colb]

eh.. Whatever. You still know your basketball. (Sorry for calling you "that Corn guy".. couldn't think of your handle.)

To that Suns Troll, not that it even needs to be said: the Jazz would have kicked the dogshit out of the Suns. :lol :lol

lol. I could be the Corn guy, I don't mind.

Dogshit indeed.

[Obstructed_View]

Come back Spider TX and defend your teams honor!

:lmao
That team has had no honor to defend for a while now.

[Corn on the Colb]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: Spider TX

:lmao

He may have killed himself.

[RonMexico]

Spurs fans acting like Mavs fans in Warriors series.

LeBron in his first starring role as Baron Davis this Thursday!

[Obstructed_View]

Spurs fans acting like Mavs fans in Warriors series.

LeBron in his first starring role as Baron Davis this Thursday!
Only difference is the Spurs beat the Suns...

[DfendtheStar]

Spurs fans acting like Mavs fans in Warriors series.

LeBron in his first starring role as Baron Davis this Thursday!
that would be ok accept for the fact that Baron Davis LOSES at th end of the movie

[jag]

Spurs fans acting like Mavs fans in Warriors series.

LeBron in his first starring role as Baron Davis this Thursday!

Look at you! i'm proud you guys almost have a spine

:flag:

[Louie Vega]

....Blaming even the conflict on the Suns, when it was really the little bitches on the Spurs that couldn't handle something not going their way again,......The Spurs are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, the Suns made that mistake when Amare and Diaw left the bench, but for any of these morons to blame anyone but the BITCH Horry for starting things is just being foolish.


So the Suns lost a 7 game series to a bunch of "bitches"? How embarrassing! You're just making it look worse for your Suns........................BITCH ! ! ! !

[hater]

Spider probably short circuited his keyboard with his tears :lmao

[Don Quixote]

And you sir, are an idiot, and have shown how little you really know. The Spurs were much much much more worried about the SUns than the little Jazz.

Hmmm ... only in the sense that 3 (from 1-10) is much much much much greater than 1. In other words, neither Utah or Phoenix scared us much.

We're more scared of the sky falling (or global warming, same darn thing) than of Utah or Phoenix.

But we enjoy having Suns Fan here to cry. It's a great way to pass the eons of time between series, before we get on with taking our 4th title.

Enjoy the trophy ceremony, losers. :king

[OldDirtMcGirt]

It won't happen anytime soon, you mean like the way it just barely happened?

Smallball is superior to the Jazz?

Hmm....Who are the two best small-ball teams.....Suns...and Warriors...

The Jazz were 7-2 against those two teams this year. They eliminated one of them and advanced further than the other in the playoffs.

Superior?

Fast break doesn't equal small ball. The lineup that Phoenix used against San Antonio was bigger than what Utah used against San Antonio. And LOL at the regular season meaning anything. Boston beat the Spurs, I guess that means they should be the favorite if they were playing them right?

[Don Quixote]

Spider, you're getting as owned as this guy:

http://www.whitescarver.com/erinjeff/Owned/owned-baby.jpg

Maybe the kid is adopted ....

[Corn on the Colb]

Fast break doesn't equal small ball. The lineup that Phoenix used against San Antonio was bigger than what Utah used against San Antonio. And LOL at the regular season meaning anything. Boston beat the Spurs, I guess that means they should be the favorite if they were playing them right?

Yeah, that's what I said. You fucking waste of oxygen.

Small ball, fast break, same game, different name.

You better start buying into the regular season meaning something, because that's the only place where your Suns will have any glory.

[Corn on the Colb]

Maybe the kid is adopted ....

Maybe it's a neighbor's kid and they did it as a joke.

Jesus who cares?

It's funny.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Yeah, that's what I said. You fucking waste of oxygen.

Small ball, fast break, same game, different name.

You better start buying into the regular season meaning something, because that's the only place where your Suns will have any glory.

What's with all of this hostility? Yall need to invest in some anger management courses.

No, it doesn't. The 80's Lakers played fast break basketball, and they certainly didn't play small ball. Same with the lineup Phoenix used against San Antonio. There is in fact a difference.

Oh yeah, I must've forgotten about all of the championships that Utah. Last time I checked they don't give out rings for finals appearances.

[Don Quixote]

I like Cornholio too, and I have a ton of respect for Utah. They went from a non-playoff team to a team that will contend for years to come. And Boozer and Williams are flat-out ballers.

Best of all, their fans are not crying like little girls. Take their losses like a man. Unlike the small children who root for Phoenix, whose team deserves no respect and gets none. They're good but they'll never beat San Antonio while Duncan is here and I mean never. So they may as well accept it.

That said, I like their fans posting their weak stuff here. Nothing better to do in the eons of time separating one series from the next.

[Don Quixote]

I guess that's all for now, folks. We can turn our attention to demolishing Cleveland en route to a rather easy 4th NBA championship.

And there's no reason to suggest we won't win it. There's no way freaking Cleveland is better than Utah, Phoenix, or Denver were. All of em would have spanked the Cavs and called them Shirly.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I guess that's all for now, folks. We can turn our attention to demolishing Cleveland en route to a rather easy 4th NBA championship.

And there's no reason to suggest we won't win it. There's no way freaking Cleveland is better than Utah, Phoenix, or Denver were. All of em would have spanked the Cavs and called them Shirly.

At least that's something Spurs and Suns fans can agree on.

And for the record, the Spurs were the better team than Phoenix and despite the suspensions we had our chances and couldn't capitalize. This stems from our borderline autistic center and our whiny little bitch of a head coach. Glad to see Nash and Sarver trying to infuse some sack into this team.

[sammy]

I still think that you cannot reward the team that started the conflict, and that team was the Spurs. This is why basketball is losing respect and why everybody hates Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Rinky dink judgements handed down like that threatens the integrity of the game, if you can't defend your teammate after the opposing team is taking cheap shots on him than for the safety of the players they ought to just stop playing, seeing as how they can no longer guarantee that some scrub player isn't just going to cold-cock you right in the face to start a fight and get opposing players suspended.


They broke the rules! You didn't see the Spurs leaving the bench! Give me a break! Speaking of breaks your team was bailed by the refs in the last game, Billups, Hamilton, Rasheed all in foul trouble so that your team could advance talk about breaks! Spurs in 5!

[Spider TX]

Yeah, that's what I said. You fucking waste of oxygen.

Small ball, fast break, same game, different name.

You better start buying into the regular season meaning something, because that's the only place where your Suns will have any glory.

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.


You have fun jockeying for fourth place, loser.

[T Park]

Suns fan is leaving the board?

Oh my, whatever shall we do?

Alright I'll pop a bottle in celebration.

[ATRAIN]

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.

I always said spurs in 6.....NO way did I Think sweep. Don't judge everyone based on a few replies.

[Avitus1]

Suns fan is leaving the board?

Oh my, whatever shall we do?

Alright I'll pop a bottle in celebration.

Hey man, hope you got enough to share with the rest of us.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I always said spurs in 6.....NO way did I Think sweep. Don't judge everyone based on a few replies.

I think that San Antonio will take it in five, I see this series being very similar to the Denver one.

[ClingingMars]

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.

Good riddance, asshole. Don't let the fucking door hit you on the way out while you watch us get another championship ring, BITCH!

-Mars

[BUMP]

Suns fan is leaving the board?

Oh my, whatever shall we do?

Alright I'll pop a bottle in celebration.

huh? there's still some left?

[ClingingMars]

huh? there's still some left?

none for Mavs fans :P unless you somehow sneak into the AT&T

-Mars

[BUMP]

I disagree. If the Warriors had taken the Mavericks to 7 and then lost, I feel like Utah would have beaten Dallas anyway.

-Mars
i think the Mavs would've beaten Utah. they had HCA and they did get a win in Utah during the reg. season. but thats saying IF we beat the Warriors, which is no easy task cause thats the team we struggled most against all season. Warriors were a much tougher match up for us. obviously :rolleyes


:lol Woulda, shoulda, coulda. The Suns are invincible in the hypothetical. Enjoy dreaming about your pretend championship.
:lol

Suns=next year's champs

[BUMP]

none for Mavs fans :P unless you somehow sneak into the AT&T

-Mars
was talking about Suns fans lol

[ClingingMars]

i think the Mavs would've beaten Utah. they had HCA and they did get a win in Utah during the reg. season. but thats saying IF we beat the Warriors, which is no easy task cause thats the team we struggled most against all season. Warriors were a much tougher match up for us. obviously :rolleyes

If the Warriors had taken the Mavs to 7 then lost, i feel like fatigue would have been a factor for the Mavs. The Jazz did not seem tired at all in Game 1 against the Spurs, and there's no reason to assume they wouldn't be tired against the Mavs. With a win in game 1 i feel like they would take the series in 7.

-Mars

[ClingingMars]

was talking about Suns fans lol

my bad mate :oops

-Mars

[bresilhac]

You will be eating it soon enough, but course, when that time comes, you will be nowhere to be found, so enjoy the asterisk on 2 of your 4 titles, thats the reason your team cannot get any national respect. You will see titles very very soon from the Suns, let's see if you are man enough to eat crow then.

Spoken like a true loser. The Spurs Championship trophies are inscripted with no asterisks that I know of. What I also know is that with or without the nation's respect, adoration etc., the Spurs rings still shine brightly as do the three trophies and soon to be a fourth.

[Obstructed_View]

Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.
Damn, this is almost sig worthy. :lol

[smeagol]

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.
Fuck off.

You are a disgrace to basketball.

[Avitus1]

sumbest bitches.......

Instant Classic.

[Don Quixote]

Don't get all depressed, Suns Fan. At least you have the Cardinals season to look forward to.

[boutons_]

If only Suns could play ball at the same high level as their trolls bitterly talk trash.

How far from Phoenix do you assholes have to travel to actually find enough water that supports fish?

[BUMP]

How far from Phoenix do you assholes have to travel to actually find enough water that supports fish?

:lol yeah atleast here in Texas us Mav fans have lakes to go fishing in.

im not sure what they have in Phoenix. i think they just go rattlesnake shooting or something

[Johnny RIngo]

Where exactly was there a 14ppg a year in there. An MVP makes his team that much better, and taking a BAD BAD team and turning them into a 62 win team is an MVP year. They were deserved in every way.

That's a weak-ass argument. Here's two players that dramatically improved their teams but weren't given MVPs because of it:

When David Robinson joined the Spurs in '89 the team went from a 21-61 record to a whopping 56-26. That's a 35 game improvement(much better than Nash's 33 game margin).

The Celtics went from 29 wins to 61 when Bird joined in '79. That's a 32 game improvement.

[Corn on the Colb]

What the fuck has your team ever done worth noting? They are nowhere near the level of the top 3 teams in the legaue, being the Suns, Spurs and Mavs. They are kind of a joke to those teams that lucked out and missed the Mavs. You along with the Spurs fans in this thread are the dumbest fucking sports fans I have ever come across. Unfortunately it will make me leave this board because you all are so damn clueless.

The Suns are the best damn team the Spurs faced all year, and they struggled most with them, but played best and won. The Jazz aren't very good, lucked out to get there and were run over. The Suns are far superior to them, and the Spurs superior to the Suns, FOR NOW. I accept the Suns lost the series, and always have, regardless of anything, they lost 4 times, but some of you fans are so damn idiotic you believe the Spurs should have swept them. Get over yourselves, and take a few minutes to learn sports, because most of you are the sumbest bitches there are.

I finally believe the fans on the Suns board are far and away more knowledgable fans, because there cannot be any dumber than you all.

The Jazz > The Suns. They call them the 'Suns'...or is it 'Sons'...because the Spurs sure looked like your daddy. And if that's the case, the Jazz are the younger brother who is better at everything, making the older brother (the Suns) jealous and pissy.

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE VAGINA ON THE WAY OUT!

[Rydia]

:lol yeah atleast here in Texas us Mav fans have lakes to go fishing in.

im not sure what they have in Phoenix. i think they just go rattlesnake shooting or something

hahaha!!!

You guys are HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Little Stevie Nash built himself a big pool with lots of fish in it and then invites all the guys.....he knows that pool will have lots of use!!




Shouldn't there be an asterick on the Dallas First Round Win?? Ohhh wait-even though everyone "Cheated" and the "Mean and Biased" Refs threw out Baron and Stephen Jackson in TWO Games they chose to MAN UP AND WIN!!!

[UV Ray]

As far as I know the Spurs are very respected nationally. I have no clue what you're talking about.


Tom Orsborn
Express-News

As the Spurs aim for their fourth NBA title in nine seasons and third in the past five — a remarkable accomplishment that would enshrine the team in basketball's pantheon — the nation's sports fans are responding with a collective yawn.

[stepmonkey]

Most of these Suns fans, with the exception of a few, are so close minded and clueless about everything that you saying this will just get them to always react the way they have. Blaming even the conflict on the Spurs, when it was really the little bitch Suns fan that couldn't handle something not going their way again. The Suns fans are the biggest whiny bitches in the NBA, as it shows EACH and EVERY time they get a foul called on them. They win in the regular season, yes, I'll give them that, but they also bithc better than any team in basketball.

[RonMexico]

Only difference is the Spurs beat the Suns...

I meant in how Spurs fans are ripping on the Cavs and taking the championship already for granted.

I just had to pick the most popular thread in order to post it.

Warriors won that series even if they looked like girls against the Jazz.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

The Jazz > The Suns. They call them the 'Suns'...or is it 'Sons'...because the Spurs sure looked like your daddy. And if that's the case, the Jazz are the younger brother who is better at everything, making the older brother (the Suns) jealous and pissy.

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE VAGINA ON THE WAY OUT!

Kudos on not responding to my post after I called you on your bullshit.

And second of all, you guys got whipped in four games. I'm not really sure that Utah has any room to talk. From top to bottom, Phoenix is better than Utah.

Nash>Williams
Bell>Fisher
Marion>AK
Thomas<Boozer
Stoudemire>Okur

So I'm not sure where the whoe "Jazz are better" notion is coming from.

[Corn on the Colb]

Kudos on not responding to my post after I called you on your bullshit.

And second of all, you guys got whipped in four games. I'm not really sure that Utah has any room to talk. From top to bottom, Phoenix is better than Utah.

Nash>Williams
Bell>Fisher
Marion>AK
Thomas<Boozer
Stoudemire>Okur

So I'm not sure where the whoe "Jazz are better" notion is coming from.

Western Conference Finals > Western Conference Semifinals.

Jazz bench >>>> Suns Bench
Jazz coach >>>> Suns Coach
Jazz concept >>>> Smallball/fastbreak/whatever you want to call it.
Jazz in WCF. Suns Fishing. You got whooped in 6, and the Spurs didn't play half as well as they did in the WCF's. Add on the fact that this was our first run with this group of guys, and that just makes the Jazz look that much scarier.

Jazz > Suns.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Suns fans,

there comes a point in time where you just have to get on with your life and accept that your team lost. its just a game that you have no control over. whining makes you look worse, and you guys are trying endlessly to win over every grain of respect from Spurs fans to make your series loss seem less painful. its ugly to watch. you guys will never win on this site. its like trying to find your way out of the Sahara without a map :lol

[Corn on the Colb]

No, it doesn't. The 80's Lakers played fast break basketball, and they certainly didn't play small ball. Same with the lineup Phoenix used against San Antonio. There is in fact a difference.

Oh yeah, I must've forgotten about all of the championships that Utah. Last time I checked they don't give out rings for finals appearances.

Okay, so 'there's a difference.'

There's also a difference in the 80's Lakers and the '07 Suns. LMAO @ them being in the same paragraph right there. Stoudemire = SMALL for a center. Marion = SMALL for a PF, and lots of times, that's the frontcourt. Small. Ball.

Whatever you want to call it, it didn't advance as far as the Jazz did. Good day.

[Corn on the Colb]

its like trying to find your way out of the Sahara without a map :lol

Or water.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Western Conference Finals > Western Conference Semifinals.

Jazz bench >>>> Suns Bench
Jazz coach >>>> Suns Coach
Jazz concept >>>> Smallball/fastbreak/whatever you want to call it.
Jazz in WCF. Suns Fishing. You got whooped in 6, and the Spurs didn't play half as well as they did in the WCF's. Add on the fact that this was our first run with this group of guys, and that just makes the Jazz look that much scarier.

Jazz > Suns.

Hmmm... so we have sixth man of the year Leandro Barbosa and a starting caliber player and former MIP in Boris Diaw coming off the bench... but we have a worse bench. That makes a whole lot of sense.

This is true.

No concept is better than the other one. It's how you execute your goal to win the game. Teams have won championships playing fast break, and teams have one them playing half court. Totally irrelevant.

The only reason you got to the second round is you played cupcake Golden State while we played San Antonio. As soon as you played the same opponent, you lost and in less games. And the Spurs are the model for consistency in the NBA, I'm not buying that they decided to play crappy in a series that most pundits believed would decide the NBA championship.

And yes, after Steve Nash retires and D-Will/Boozer have more experience, than Utah will probably be better than Phoenix. But they weren't better this year, and they won't be better next year either.

[Extra Stout]

Suns fans,

there comes a point in time where you just have to get on with your life and accept that your team lost. its just a game that you have no control over. whining makes you look worse, and you guys are trying endlessly to win over every grain of respect from Spurs fans to make your series loss seem less painful. its ugly to watch. you guys will never win on this site. its like trying to find your way out of the Sahara without a map :lol

"Your team may be going for its fourth title... but, but, we don't respect you!!!"

The Phoenix Suns are the oldest NBA franchise not to have won a title. They are cursed. I understand the angst. They need an outlet. :lol

[ClingingMars]

Suns fans,

there comes a point in time where you just have to get on with your life and accept that your team lost. its just a game that you have no control over. whining makes you look worse, and you guys are trying endlessly to win over every grain of respect from Spurs fans to make your series loss seem less painful. its ugly to watch. you guys will never win on this site. its like trying to find your way out of the Sahara without a map :lol

Amen to that. Take a cue from Mavs fans and just enjoy the fishing.

-Mars

[Obstructed_View]

I meant in how Spurs fans are ripping on the Cavs and taking the championship already for granted.

I just had to pick the most popular thread in order to post it.

Warriors won that series even if they looked like girls against the Jazz.
Oh. Kudos on not starting a new thread. There's premature ejaculators everywhere. Some of us learned our lesson concerning that a long time ago. I got rudely surprised by the Lakers a couple of times.

That said, the Cavs are not as good as anyone the Spurs have faced so far, and it's not like anyone has pushed them particularly hard. If the Spurs find a way to lose this series it's a monumental choke. Fortunately it'll only be the second biggest choke of this year's playoffs.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hmmm... so we have sixth man of the year Leandro Barbosa and a starting caliber player and former MIP in Boris Diaw coming off the bench... but we have a worse bench. That makes a whole lot of sense.

This is true.

No concept is better than the other one. It's how you execute your goal to win the game. Teams have won championships playing fast break, and teams have one them playing half court. Totally irrelevant.

The only reason you got to the second round is you played cupcake Golden State while we played San Antonio. As soon as you played the same opponent, you lost and in less games. And the Spurs are the model for consistency in the NBA, I'm not buying that they decided to play crappy in a series that most pundits believed would decide the NBA championship.

And yes, after Steve Nash retires and D-Will/Boozer have more experience, than Utah will probably be better than Phoenix. But they weren't better this year, and they won't be better next year either.

Do you realize how pathetic it is to come to a Spurs board and argue with a Jazz fan to try and jutify your shitty team?

[dknights411]

Suns fans,

there comes a point in time where you just have to get on with your life and accept that your team lost. its just a game that you have no control over. whining makes you look worse, and you guys are trying endlessly to win over every grain of respect from Spurs fans to make your series loss seem less painful. its ugly to watch. you guys will never win on this site. its like trying to find your way out of the Sahara without a map :lol

Quoted and bolded for truth. :tu

[DarrinS]

Nash>Williams
Bell>Fisher
Marion>AK
Thomas<Boozer
Stoudemire>Okur



Nash>Williams (I actually think these guys are about equal)
Bell>Fisher (true)
Marion>AK (true)
Thomas<Boozer (true)
Stoudemire>Okur (true)

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Do you realize how pathetic it is to come to a Spurs board and argue with a Jazz fan to try and jutify your shitty team?

Eh, I'm bored at work. So I like to pass the time by having discussions with other people on basketball. Not really sure how this makes me pathetic.

[smeagol]

Tom Orsborn
Express-News

As the Spurs aim for their fourth NBA title in nine seasons and third in the past five — a remarkable accomplishment that would enshrine the team in basketball's pantheon — the nation's sports fans are responding with a collective yawn.
Ahh . . the vilage idiot makes his appearence to further degrade this thread

[Corn on the Colb]

Hmmm... so we have sixth man of the year Leandro Barbosa and a starting caliber player and former MIP in Boris Diaw coming off the bench... but we have a worse bench. That makes a whole lot of sense.

This is true.

No concept is better than the other one. It's how you execute your goal to win the game. Teams have won championships playing fast break, and teams have one them playing half court. Totally irrelevant.

The only reason you got to the second round is you played cupcake Golden State while we played San Antonio. As soon as you played the same opponent, you lost and in less games. And the Spurs are the model for consistency in the NBA, I'm not buying that they decided to play crappy in a series that most pundits believed would decide the NBA championship.

And yes, after Steve Nash retires and D-Will/Boozer have more experience, than Utah will probably be better than Phoenix. But they weren't better this year, and they won't be better next year either.

Boris Diaw fucking sucked this year. Last year was his only good year, and he wouldn't see the floor on the Jazz. I'd rather have Jarron Collins on the floor than Diaw. Remember all that bitching about the suspensions? Diaw came back and scored 1 point. Saweet.

Barbosa is good. But obviously, your rotation blows. James Jones wouldn't see the floor on the Jazz. TWO bench players doesn't make you deep. That makes you 7-deep. Which sucks. The Jazz' 2nd unit is Fisher, Gordan Giricek, Matt Harpring, Paul Millsap, and Jarron Collins. Giricek & Harpring >>>>>> Jones & Rose. Not to mention we have Brewer (uber-athletic and energetic) Dee Brown (ditto) and CJ Miles (Young, young shooter). Marcus Banks and Pat Burke? Oh wait, I shouldn't mention these names because apparently your 'bench' is Barbosa and Diaw. That's it. That makes you deep? And deeper than the Jazz? Pah-lease.

Please don't tell me that smallball is going to win a championship in this era. If you think that, you're lying to yourself.


EDIT: And Golden State was the hottest team in the league. Hitting 14 3's a game over the last 3 games of the Mavs series and over the first 3 of the Jazz series. Cupcake only describes their style of play, same with the Suns.
DWill owns Nash when we play. It won't take the Un-MVP's retirement to make us better than the Suns, we already are.