Beno Traded !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oink Oink]

http://www.insidehoops.com/udrih-trade-102907.shtml

2nd round pick Minnesota

[tp2021]

Holy F*cking Shiiiit!!!!!!!!!!

[coz]

legit?

Kori?

LJ?

God?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:danceclub :danceclub :danceclub


FINALLY!


:danceclub :danceclub :danceclub

[ChumpDumper]

Looks legit so far.

[LEN BIAS 4EVER]

wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Can't Believe It !!! :downspin:

[hater]

fuck you Beno!

[Kori Ellis]

Legit. I got the confirmation email.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

KSAT just reported it, so its veracity is still in question.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

fuck you Beno!
:clap x 100000

[timvp]

GTFO.

[tp2021]

i wonder what the spurs will do with their open roster spot... the last time we traded for a protected pick, it was from the bulls and for this past year's draft, but they diidnt' finish high enough in the standings. i wonder if we'll actually get the pick this time, or if the FO even really cares....

GOOD RIDDANCE BENO!

[polandprzem]

Legit. I got the confirmation email.

Hmm so the third string is Washington - wow, with Voughn

[Kori Ellis]

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have traded guard Beno Udrih to the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for a protected 2008 second round draft pick.

The 6-3 Udrih was selected by the Spurs in the first round of the 2004 NBA Draft, with the 28th overall pick. In three seasons in San Antonio he appeared in 207 regular season games, averaging 5.2 points and 1.8 assists in 13.0 minutes.

[duncan228]

About time.
I'm glad it finally got done.

[Tippecanoe]

hahahaha, stupid minnesota :lmao

after a week, twolves will be begging someone to take beno for a bag of cheetos

[timvp]

:lmao @ Kevin McHale.

He traded a second rounder for Beno?!?!?!

[YODA]

just came out on 5pm news on ksat 12...We get a protected 2nd round pick from wolves. This means we have an extras spot on the roster. Does this mean we keep our second round pick this year?? it did seem obvious that something was up with us keeping 4 point gaurds. I guess we know why now.

Yoda

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

:lmao @ Kevin McHale.

He traded a second rounder for Beno?!?!?!

Protected, but still! :lmao

[Mr. Body]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-hhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

[Tippecanoe]

:lmao @ Kevin McHale.

He traded a second rounder for Beno?!?!?!

at least it was a protected second rounder, but still

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

When's the GTFO party?

[LEN BIAS 4EVER]

And the best part is they shipped his sorry ASS outa town before he could participate in tomorrow night's festivities. I say ship his ring POD....

[dimsah]

I can't believe they actually got someone to take him.

[L.I.T]

Christmas came early this year.

[Mr. Body]

Protected 2nd probably so restricted we'll never see it.

Who cares?

The question is... what now?

Washington DEFinitely is on.

But that last spot...

Williams back in?

Keep it open?

Sign up Nichols or somebody??

[Bruno]

No cash ?
I will be really surprised if Spurs have found a team ready to spend $1.75M on Beno.

[YODA]

What exactly does the protected mean. If they have a high second, they can choose to keep it and we get the next 2nd round pick next yeaR? I always get confused with this. Can someone clear it up for me?

Yoda

[tp2021]

was nichols claimed by cleveland off waivers? so...is it possible the spurs just keep the roster spot open going into the trading deadline for flexibility?

[Spurminator]

Protected = No lower than 80.

[timvp]

Damn ... maybe the Spurs should bring back Marcus Williams. Or anyone really who could be sent to the DLeague.

I'm just glad Beno is gone. He had skills but had absolutely no desire or heart.

[CubanMustGo]

Na-na Nah Nah,
Na-na Nah Nah,
Hey Hey,
GOOD - BYE YOU FVCKING WORTHLESS WASTE OF PROTOPLASM

What, that's not how it goes?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

about time! Now Beno can focus on rebuilding his career somewhere they can use a no heart slacker like him

[timvp]

No cash ?
I will be really surprised if Spurs have found a team ready to spend $1.75M on Beno.If McHale didn't get $3M in this deal, he's an even worse GM than I thought.

And I already thought he was the worst in the league.

[Oink Oink]

No tacos for beno in Minnesota :santahat

[YODA]

This thread is building posts faster then i can write.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Send farewells here.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=103430812

[ChumpDumper]

Damn ... maybe the Spurs should bring back Marcus Williams. Or anyone really who could be sent to the DLeague.

I'm just glad Beno is gone. He had skills but had absolutely no desire or heart.We should pick up another guy. There are some SF types with decent potential on the waiver wire so far:

Williams
Marcus Slaughter
Steven "Don't call me Steve" Smith
Devin Green
Jeremy Richardson

Probably more to come,

[Mr. Body]

Just saw Cleveland picked up Demetrius Nichols. Good for them. Here's supposing the Spurs bring Marcus Williams back.

[timvp]

No cash ?
I will be really surprised if Spurs have found a team ready to spend $1.75M on Beno.Did the T'Wolves have the cap space or a trade exception? I'm in shock that the Spurs were able to get a second rounder for Beno.

[kyleo]

Just gonna throw it out there - did Viktor Sanikidze ever sign with that German team?

[Ocotillo]

Hmmmm, not many taco places in Minneapolis and with the cold weather, Beno may have nothing better to do than work on his game. Who knows, Minnie may not regret renting him for a season.

[Bruno]

Damn ... maybe the Spurs should bring back Marcus Williams. Or anyone really who could be sent to the DLeague.

I'm just glad Beno is gone. He had skills but had absolutely no desire or heart.

I don't think Spurs will sign someone else.
Spurs are about $400K (or maybe less if Williams and other training cmap invite get some guaranteed money) below the luxury tax. Signing a new player for the year will cost something like $2.5M to Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

Just gonna throw it out there - did Viktor Sanikidze ever sign with that German team?

That'd be pretty cool.

[2centsworth]

I'm feeling giddy.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think Spurs will sign someone else.
Spurs are about $400K (or maybe less if Williams and other training cmap invite get some guaranteed money) below the luxury tax. Signing a new player for the year will cost something like $2.5M to Spurs.

What's the smallest tender they could sign Williams for now?

[Spurminator]

So if Beno is worth a 2nd rounder to Minnesota, what would Scola have been worth? An Al Jefferson?

[ploto]

Srečno!

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think Spurs will sign someone else.
Spurs are about $400K (or maybe less if Williams and other training cmap invite get some guaranteed money) below the luxury tax. Signing a new player for the year will cost something like $2.5M to Spurs.I guess they can wait until deals are prorated.

[Bruno]

Did the T'Wolves have the cap space or a trade exception? I'm in shock that the Spurs were able to get a second rounder for Beno.

They get a big trade exception in the Ricky Davis trade.
The second round pick could be top59 protected.

If McHale isn't stupid the deal should be Beno + $1.75M to pay his salary + a little cash as incentive (like $250K) for a TE and a top59 protected second round pick.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So if Beno is worth a 2nd rounder to Minnesota, what would Scola have been worth? An Al Jefferson?

Barry for Garnett?

[Slomo]

Did the T'Wolves have the cap space or a trade exception? I'm in shock that the Spurs were able to get a second rounder for Beno.I can see the dialogue right now:
Min: Is this coach Pop?
Pop: yes?
Min: Hi, we're the wolves and we would like to talk to you about Beno
Pop: I'm listening
Min: Well we were thinking about Beno for a 2nd round pick
Pop: Well OK! But be aware the first 2nd round pick we can give you is in 2010!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Christmas came early this year.
:toast

[Bruno]

I guess they can wait until deals are prorated.

I think too it will be what they will do.

[timvp]

We should pick up another guy. There are some SF types with decent potential on the waiver wire so far:

Williams
Marcus Slaughter
Steven "Don't call me Steve" Smith
Devin Green
Jeremy Richardson

Probably more to come,Marcus Slaughter was the first other player I thought of. I'm surprised the Heat let him go.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Send farewells here.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=103430812
:)

[timvp]

One question remains .... how many farewell parties is Beno going to have?

[Beno Udrih]

:depressed

[PM5K]

On an unrelated related note, it's kind of funny that Butler got cut as well...

[pawe]

Holy F*cking Shiiiit!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, this is the same thing I said when i saw this topic! Only louder I think.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

One question remains .... how many farewell parties is Beno going to have?

Far too few.

[Bruno]

Minny roster is full, they have to cut someone.
It will be interesting to see if Beno will be the one cut or if Minny cut someone else and want to see what Beno can do.

[Tippecanoe]

shit son, whos gonna be the new scapegoat???

[CubanMustGo]

:depressed

Don't worry dude, with all the extra poundage you've packed on eating those tacos the Minnesota winters will be a piece of cake.

... and no, I don't have one, "piece of cake" is just an expression Americans use to indicate something easy.

[timvp]

I guess they can wait until deals are prorated.A situation that'd make sense is:

-Spurs scout the D-League
-Spurs wait for prorated amount of minimum contract to get to around $300K
-Spurs sign player from D-League
-Spurs re-assign the player to the Toros

I wonder if that'd be allowed. It'd be a nice way to steal some D-League talent and improve the Toros chance of winning. Toros winning = more fans in stadium = more money for Holt.

[whottt]

Beno wasn't a scapegoat...he earned his scorn.


Half the people celebrating his departure were Beno fans his first season here...


Dude didn't play hard.
He didn't stay in shape.
He was injury prone.


And then he turned cancerous on top of it all....

[Dex]

Does this make the Spurs offseason a successful one?

Resign Oberto, Bonner, and Vaughn...draft Tiago Splitter, a prospect center....sign Ime Udoka, a prospect SF...extend Bruce Bowen a couple years....and now we lost the deadweight of Beno Udrih, and managed to find what might be a diamond-in-the-rough replacement.

After the Scolacolypse...I'd say that's a pretty decent recovery, if nothing else. Definitely goes through most of the checklist these forums set at the start of the offseason.

[ChumpDumper]

Minny roster is full, they have to cut someone.
It will be interesting to see if Beno will be the one cut or if Minny cut someone else and want to see what Beno can do.Did they waive Simien already?

I liked Chris Richard in summer league, though I confused him with Craig Smith a couple of times.

[Mr. Body]

Of course this means I'll have to rearrange my fantasy team...

Anyway, does Minny really have to make a cut now? That's surprising. I wonder if there was any interest in Ryan Gomes...

[mardigan]

Minny roster is full, they have to cut someone.
It will be interesting to see if Beno will be the one cut or if Minny cut someone else and want to see what Beno can do.
They are going to waive Simien

[Mr. Body]

Did they waive Simien already?

I liked Chris Richard in summer league, though I confused him with Craig Smith a couple of times.

They did cut Simien.

[LEN BIAS 4EVER]

Hassan Adams is out there and is extremely athletic. I can't believe he doesn't warrant a roster spot someone in the nba.

[ChumpDumper]

A situation that'd make sense is:

-Spurs scout the D-League
-Spurs wait for prorated amount of minimum contract to get to around $300K
-Spurs sign player from D-League
-Spurs re-assign the player to the Toros

I wonder if that'd be allowed. It'd be a nice way to steal some D-League talent and improve the Toros chance of winning. Toros winning = more fans in stadium = more money for Holt.That would be totally legal.

[Big P]

I would like to see the Spurs take a flyer on a project player, one player who interests me is Korolev, who just got cut by the Clippers, he is a former #12 pick & a long SF with potential. 6'9. 203 libs. 20 years old.

[Scola Trade]

The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have traded guard Beno Udrih to the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for a protected 2008 second round draft pick.

InsideHoops.com editor Jeff Lenchiner hears the Wolves also received cash considerations in the deal, and that they are going to waive Udrih. Strange deal.

The 6-3 Udrih was selected by the Spurs in the first round of the 2004 NBA Draft, with the 28th overall pick. In three seasons in San Antonio he appeared in 207 regular season games, averaging 5.2 points and 1.8 assists in 13.0 minutes.

http://www.insidehoops.com/udrih-trade-102907.shtml


That's really weird

[timvp]

Minny roster is full, they have to cut someone.
It will be interesting to see if Beno will be the one cut or if Minny cut someone else and want to see what Beno can do.Yeah, perhaps Minnesota just cuts him. The trade could be basically the Spurs giving the Timberwolves a little bit of cash just to allow the Spurs to move out from under the luxury tax threshold.

Even if the Spurs gave the Timberwolves Beno and $3M for a second round pick that won't materialize, I believe the Spurs still profit on that move due to coming in below the luxury tax threshold.

Although, we are dealing with Kevin McHale so perhaps the Spurs got an actual second round pick and didn't have to give up cash. That'd be a rather nice trade.

:smokin

[PM5K]

That's really weird

LOL

[Bruno]

They are going to waive Simien

With Simien and Howard gone, they have 15 players under contract outside Beno.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

C OBERTO/ELSON
PF DUNCAN/BONNER/HORRY/MAHINMI
SF BOWEN/UDOKA
SG MANU/BARRY/FINLEY
PG TONY/WASHINGTON/VAUGHN

That pretty much assures Udoka and Washington will be on the active roster if wasn't proven by now. Vaughn and either Horry or Mahinmi will be on the inactive list.

[ChumpDumper]

That's really weirdThe only weird thing about it is they gave the Spurs a conditional second round pick. The Spurs FO is still high-fiving as we speak.

[ducks]

so beno got traded now he will get cut
I wonder if he really thinks he is a starter still

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The Spurs FO is still high-fiving as we speak.
ROFL

[Mr. Body]

Meanwhile Udrih has made several millions, is cut, so doesn't have to actually play, and can retire to an island in the Carribean somewhere.

[mardigan]

With Simien and Howard gone, they have 15 players under contract outside Beno.
I dont have that at all
Brewer
Jefferson
Gomes
Jaric
Walker
Buckner
Doleac
Foye
Telfair
Madsen
McCants
Green
Chris Richard (dont even know if this dude is on the team)
Beno

Who am I missing?

[Bruno]

The only weird thing about it is they gave the Spurs a conditional second round pick. The Spurs FO is still high-fiving as we speak.

A team can't trade a trade exception without adding something. They must add cash or a draft pick or rights to a player.
In all likelihood, the pick is heavily protected and will never trigger.

[ducks]

does anyone think beno will be over 300 pounds this time next year

[Darkwaters]

Damn. This is awesome. I'm pissed now that I have all this work to do and no time to speculate.

GTFO BENO!

Make a good list of possible roster signings for us!

[Tippecanoe]

Meanwhile Udrih has made several millions, is cut, so doesn't have to actually play, and can retire to an island in the Carribean somewhere.

shit, thats several million that coulda gone to cancer research

fuck you beno

[2centsworth]

there's no doubt Mahimi or Splitter is involved in this deal. No way spurs cut baggage without giving up a prospect.

[ducks]

we are talking about kevin machale

[Kori Ellis]

I dont have that at all
Brewer
Jefferson
Gomes
Jaric
Walker
Buckner
Doleac
Foye
Telfair
Madsen
McCants
Green
Chris Richard (dont even know if this dude is on the team)
Beno

Who am I missing?

Ratliff

[TheZackAttack!]

If this is a dream, I don't want to wake up :spin

[Bruno]

Ratliff
and Craig Smith.

[ChumpDumper]

A team can't trade a trade exception without adding something. They must add cash or a draft pick or rights to a player.
In all likelihood, the pick is heavily protected and will never trigger.Right, I wonder exactly how much money it cost the Spurs to make this work. I thought they might have to include the rights to some other player.

[Mr. Body]

there's no doubt Mahimi or Splitter is involved in this deal. No way spurs cut baggage without giving up a prospect.

Dunno if that's residual Scola-trade sarcasm, but they're just paying for this one. Minny never has to give up their second round pick and get some free money for this.

[timvp]

Hey Bruno, does trading Beno away save more than $3M for the Spurs? If so, they probably gave the Timberwolves something approaching the $3M maximum.

[Scola Trade]

there's no doubt Mahimi or Splitter is involved in this deal. No way spurs cut baggage without giving up a prospect.
Read again. The Spurs are only giving CA$H considerations.

[mardigan]

But the T-Wolves are going to waive Walker right? They wouldnt keep that guy would they?

[LEN BIAS 4EVER]

there's no doubt Mahimi or Splitter is involved in this deal. No way spurs cut baggage without giving up a prospect.


NO WAY. OR ELSE I WILL START A ONE MAN RIOT THAT WILL EQUAL THE 68 DETROIT ONE.

What's wrong with Wayne Simien that the twolves woudln't take a chance.

He was a man beast at Kansas.

[2centsworth]

Dunno if that's residual Scola-trade sarcasm, but they're just paying for this one. Minny never has to give up their second round pick and get some free money for this.sarcasm. I'm silly with happiness.

[Kori Ellis]

But the T-Wolves are going to waive Walker right? They wouldnt keep that guy would they?

Why would they waive Walker??

[timvp]

But the T-Wolves are going to wave Walker right? They wouldnt keep that guy would they?Walker is staying and probably starting. He's the perfect player to give heavy minutes to make sure the team sucks. He's basically the human ping pong ball at this point.

Unless McHale is dumber than I expect, this trade is basically the Spurs paying the Timberwolves to waive Beno. Both teams will profit some money in the transaction.

[Mr. Body]

sarcasm. I'm silly with happiness.

approves.

awaiting CNN headline.

[angel_luv]

They sent my Beno to Minnesota.

This stinks. Now I have to root for the Wolves.

Ugh this is going to make a friend of mine so happy cause now I have to root for his team.

Darn it!

Poor Beno. I hope this trade works out well for him. I'll miss him.

[ploto]

Luke Jackson is available if you want him.

[ducks]

They sent my Beno to Minnesota.

This stinks. Now I have to root for the Wolves.

Ugh this is going to make a friend of mine so happy cause now I have to root for his team.

Darn it!

Poor Beno. I hope this trade works out well for him. I'll miss him.
why would you have to root for wolves they are going to cut him
they are only making money off of him

[angel_luv]

And fyi, this was SO NOT supposed to happen on my third year anniversary of being a Spurs Talker. Boo! :(

[Mr. Body]

They sent my Beno to Minnesota.

This stinks. Now I have to root for the Wolves.

Ugh this is going to make a friend of mine so happy cause now I have to root for his team.

Darn it!

Poor Beno. I hope this trade works out well for him. I'll miss him.

:lol

Hate to break it to ya, sweetheart, but Beno's not playing for the Wolves and will likely never wear an NBA uniform again.

[picnroll]

So basically this is the move Bruno predicted but with Minny instead of Seattle.

[timvp]

If Beno is indeed waived, I'm extremely interested to see where he ends up. Will an NBA team give him a shot? If not, will Beno go to Europe or will he go to the D-League?

[2centsworth]

I was debating whether to drink today, but this one deserves a toast. I'm proud of this FO right now. They found a way to give someone like Washington a shot.

[mardigan]

Why would they waive Walker??
To give minutes to all the young players they brought in. Why would they want to take minutes away from Brewer and Jefferson for that chump?

[Bruno]

Hey Bruno, does trading Beno away save more than $3M for the Spurs? If so, they probably gave the Timberwolves something approaching the $3M maximum.

Trading Beno saved :
- $1.75M in salary.
- $1.3M in Luxury tax
- between $1.5M and $2M in luxury tax money redistribution.

They save between $4.5M and $5M.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

And fyi, this was SO NOT supposed to happen on my third year anniversary of being a Spurs Talker. Boo! :(
Beno blows. You should've seen this coming.

[Mr. Body]

If Beno is indeed waived, I'm extremely interested to see where he ends up. Will an NBA team give him a shot? If not, will Beno go to Europe or will he go to the D-League?

Where will he have it so cush? You think he'll play anywhere again?

[picnroll]

Buford taking the early lead for GM of the year.

[SequSpur]

I will have more on this topic later.

[ploto]

Funny thing is-- if Minnesota waives him then he can still be there tomorrow night to get his ring! :lol :lol Wouldn't put it past him...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I will have more on this topic later.
:rollin

[WhyWontNashDIE?]

sources tell me he was traded for a few paper clips, a stapler, and a broken clock-radio
Pop said the trade also included perks like: a possible second round pick, and Beno getting the F*CK out of SanAntonio

[2centsworth]

If Beno is indeed waived, I'm extremely interested to see where he ends up. Will an NBA team give him a shot? If not, will Beno go to Europe or will he go to the D-League?
Beno will go make $500k per overseas for about 3 years. Then ride the bench and collect a minumum contract from the Jeruselam team, get fat, and then be out of basketball altogether. 15 years from now he'll be busting people at the Y and talking mad smack.

[timvp]

Trading Beno saved :
- $1.75M in salary.
- $1.3M in Luxury tax
- between $1.5M and $2M in luxury tax money redistribution.

They save between $4.5M and $5M.Hmmmm ... so I'm guessing the Spurs gave between $2M and $3M to make this deal happen.

Either way, still a great deal. I wonder how protected that second round pick is. I'm sure it's amazingly protected. If McHale didn't double bag that pick, this might top all his other bad moves.

[Mr. Body]

This will be the most popular ST thread of all time.

[Tippecanoe]

They sent my Beno to Minnesota.

This stinks. Now I have to root for the Wolves.

Ugh this is going to make a friend of mine so happy cause now I have to root for his team.

Darn it!

Poor Beno. I hope this trade works out well for him. I'll miss him.

:lol sorry hon. beno blows. meet mr. darius washington

[angel_luv]

Funny thing is-- if Minnesota waives him then he can still be there tomorrow night to get his ring! :lol :lol Wouldn't put it past him...

Ouch!

The Spurs need to sign a Slovenian immediately.

My team is seriously lacking.

Smodis anyone? :)

[Kori Ellis]

To give minutes to all the young players they brought in. Why would they want to take minutes away from Brewer and Jefferson for that chump?

I read this quote a few days ago and figured they are actually going to keep him a while.

"I don't pay attention to what is said in Miami about Antoine," Wittman said. "All I can go on is what I see. That's what I've told him. He's got an opportunity here. If he shows he can help this team, he'll be out there helping the team."

[Hook Dem]

Beno will go make $500k per overseas for about 3 years. Then ride the bench and collect a minumum contract from the Jeruselam team, get fat, and then be out of basketball altogether. 15 years from now he'll be busting people at the Y and talking mad smack.
Accurate prediction! :clap

[PM5K]

15 years from now he'll be busting people at the Y and talking mad smack.


LOL

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

This will be the most popular ST thread of all time.

[mardigan]

I read this quote a few days ago and figured they are actually going to keep him a while.

"I don't pay attention to what is said in Miami about Antoine," Wittman said. "All I can go on is what I see. That's what I've told him. He's got an opportunity here. If he shows he can help this team, he'll be out there helping the team."
Well I'll be damned

[ploto]

The Spurs need to sign a Slovenian immediately.

My team is seriously lacking.

Smodis anyone? :)
Dragic.

[angel_luv]

Wait a minute!

Kori were you taking a nap????

[angel_luv]

Dragic.

Okay. :)

[KEDA]

My prayers have been answered!!!!

Oh, Ploto and Angel are officially are on suicide watch!

[Kori Ellis]

Wait a minute!

Kori were you taking a nap????

No, I was busy crying about Noel :lol

[timvp]

Dragic.Dragic would need to be drafted first . . .

[KEDA]

just for shits and grins, lets start the petition to have Noel take the roster spot!

[Horry For 3!]

No Beno :elephant

[ducks]

beno to kings now? bibby is hurt

[Kori Ellis]

So if the Spurs keep only 14, will everyone bitch that they are cheap again? Or does the fact they paid someone to take Beno away counteract that?

[ChumpDumper]

beno to kings now? bibby is hurtMaybe after he clears waivers.

[ploto]

Dragic would need to be drafted first . . .
Like I don't know that-- I meant he is the best young prospect of the Slovenians right now.

[Slomo]

So if the Spurs keep only 14, will everyone bitch that they are cheap again? Or does the fact they paid someone to take Beno away counteract that?
Of course we will bitch, but RC will only have to show us a photo of Beno to shut us up. :lol

[DR WU]

As I stated before (six weeks ago) a fourteen-man roster...with no Marcus Williams!

[timvp]

So if the Spurs keep only 14, will everyone bitch that they are cheap again? Or does the fact they paid someone to take Beno away counteract that?I'm fine with the roster spot not being filled.







Until the prorated amount lowers to the point where it makes sense for everyone involved to sign someone and let them play for the Toros.

[ChumpDumper]

So if the Spurs keep only 14, will everyone bitch that they are cheap again? Or does the fact they paid someone to take Beno away counteract that?I'll be pissed if they don't at least pick up one more player during the season, but trade opportunities are much more wide open now than in the past -- so having the extra roster spot might facilitate a 2-for-1 deal if they feel the need during the season.

[PM5K]

Beno will always suck, Holt Cat will always be cheap...

[timvp]

Like I don't know that-- I meant he is the best young prospect of the Slovenians right now.Yeah I know, hence the ellipses indicating the future possibility of the Spurs picking him.

Perhaps with the early second round pick the Spurs will received from the Raptors :stirpot:

[KEDA]

What a past few days for me, Boston wins the World Series, and Beno's fat ass is outta here!

Im going to go bust out a La Gloria Cubana Sirie R Maduro and smoke it in celebration tonight!!!

[Obstructed_View]

I'm fine with the roster spot remaining empty if the Spurs are near or above the cap. I still contend that Williams isn't going to land anywhere this season.

As for Beno...don't the Suns only have 13 guys right now?

[picnroll]

Of course we will bitch, but RC will only have to show us a photo of Beno to shut us up. :lol
Worse yet threaten to pick Beno back up for league minimum.

[FromWayDowntown]

Here's quasi-confirmation on the Beno waived part of the transaction:


The Timberwolves finalized their roster late this afternoon, releasing Wayne Simien and placing Juwan Howard on waivers after a contract buyout as expected. They also made a last-minute deal that only makes sense in the convoluted world of NBA salary-cap specifics. San Antonio sent to the Wolves guard Beno Udrih and cash for a protected 2006 second-round draft pick that never will be delivered. The Wolves then waived Udrih and the Spurs got some salary-cap relief. Got it? I sure don’t.

Your 15 Timberwolves who will open the season at home Friday night against Denver are:

Randy Foye, Rashad McCants, Craig Smith, Mark Madsen, Marko Jaric, Corey Brewer, Chris Richard, Greg Buckner, Michael Doleac, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and Antoine Walker. All but Foye, McCants, Smith, Madsen and Jaric are new to the team.

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/?p=8

[Obstructed_View]

Holt Cat will always be cheap...
And the Spurs will always be the San Antonio Spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

:lol @ 2006 pick

[PM5K]

:lol @ 2006 pick

LOL...

Man this thread really delivers...

[Pistons < Spurs]

WOW. Beno's actually gone. And you even got something in return!

Bout time. He's had opportunities.

Maybe he'll find a home in Minnesota.

[angel_luv]

No, I was busy crying about Noel :lol



What happened to Noel? Is he okay?

I wish Noel were a Spur.

[Kori Ellis]

What happened to Noel? Is he okay?

I wish Noel were a Spur.

He got cut.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If Beno is indeed waived, I'm extremely interested to see where he ends up. Will an NBA team give him a shot? If not, will Beno go to Europe or will he go to the D-League?

Europe, he has far too much pride for the D-League

[FromWayDowntown]

:lol @ 2006 pick
It's probably about the practical equivalent of that.

[PM5K]

So we got a historical draft pick and monopoly money, sweet.

[2centsworth]

WOW. Beno's actually gone. And you even got something in return!

Bout time. He's had opportunities.

Maybe he'll find a home in Minnesota.
I think the Spurs got about 5 or 6 bucks.

[Pistons < Spurs]

He got cut.
That sucks. I was wondering if the Demetris Nichols signing was going to effect him ...

Not to mention Dwayne Jones looks like he could be really good too.

Does he have any idea what's next? Europe?

[Mr. Body]

If it's a 2006 pick let's get Paul Millsap!!

[timvp]

This trade tells me the Spurs are higher on Washington than I originally thought. Beno sucked but he was at least good enough for use in an emergency.

Washington now has a great opportunity. It sounds like he's going to open the year as the backup point guard. If he plays well enough, Pop is the type of coach that will allow him to keep that job. Even if Washington eventually fails, Vaughn would just need a few games to warm up and be ready for the playoffs.

I kinda like the idea of making Washington the backup point guard for the first couple months of the season to see how good he is. At worst, Pop has Vaughn to fall back on. At best, Washington can provide more than Vaughn and be another weapon for this team.

[Man In Black]

I wonder who played more bad?

Beno Udrih or Shane Heal?

[Kori Ellis]

That sucks. I was wondering if the Demetris Nichols signing was going to effect him ...

Not to mention Dwayne Jones looks like he could be really good too.

Does he have any idea what's next? Europe?

He got cut so they could sign Nichols.
Dwayne Jones has looked incredible on the boards, but sucks in every other aspect. Not Europe - I'm not letting him go there :lol Probably DLeague to start the season.

[Kori Ellis]

I wonder who played more bad?

Beno Udrih or Shane Heal?

I think Shane Heal at least tried. But neither of them could bring the ball up.

[angel_luv]

He got cut.

Oh no! Crazy team!

Please tell him I'm sorry.

[Kori Ellis]

Can some photoshop expert please take that "Welcome Back Beno" party flyer and turn it into a "Bon Voyage Beno" flyer?

I'm so disappointed that this hasn't been done yet :lol

[angel_luv]

Can some photoshop expert please take that "Welcome Back Beno" party flyer and turn it into a "Bon Voyage Beno" flyer?

I'm so disappointed that this hasn't been done yet :lol


Kori! :nope

[picnroll]

STD clinics all over San Antonio are laying off personell.

[loveforthegame]

Finally!! :drunk

Crappy day at work so this news made the headache go away. Congrats to the FO for unloading that piece of shit.

[ElNono]

I say we trade back for Scola, or sign James White... :p:

[Kamnik]

Damn! I was effective!

I decided this morning day dreaming in some boring seminar to open a Dragic thread because he is impressive in Adriatic league.

Playing really good and CONSISTENT.
(he would be even better if he would join the team sooner but i think because of some delays with his status he joined the team just at the start of the season-didnt play first game or so)


anyways, his average numbers at the moment for 7 played games are:

30:37 minutes
13.5 ppg
61.2 overall FG
66.7% 2point FG
46.2% 3point FG
75.0% free throws
3.2 rebounds
4.5 assits
2.2 steals
-and we all know he can play great defence (at least he did play it on Parker and some others in Euro 2007)
-he is just 21

FIND A WAY TO GET HIM IN THE NEXT DRAFT SPURS!

:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant





p.s.
As for Beno... wont miss him, he disapointed us all

waste of talent :bang

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Great way to start the week!

RC for GM of the Year :tu

[whottt]

I think Shane Heal at least tried. But neither of them could bring the ball up.


Shane Heal could at least walk...which made him a better keep than Anthony Carter...who couldn't.

[Mister Sinister]

Put Ur Monee In The Bowl 4 Jeeeeesus!!!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

No job for you lazy Beno :lol :lol :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

Pro basketball: Spurs trade Udrih to Timberwolves

Web Posted: 10/29/2007 05:54 PM CDT

Mike Monroe
Express-News Staff Writer

In the final hours before the deadline to set rosters for opening night, the Spurs traded point guard Beno Udrih to the Minnesota Timberwolves for a conditional second-round pick in the 2008 draft.


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Udrih, the club’s first-round draft pick in the 2004 draft, broke the index finger on his left (shooting) hand in the first days of training camp and did not play in the Spurs’ seven pre-season games. Having lost his status as primary backup to Tony Parker to veteran Jacque Vaughn last season, Udrih’s injury and the competitive play of rookie Darius Washington in the pre-season combined to make him expendable.

“This is a reflection on Darius’ play in the pre-season,” Spurs’ general manager R.C. Buford said. “It was unfortunate for Beno that he was injured. He wasn’t healthy and able to take advantage of Tony’s unavailability and Jacque’s injury, and Darius did take advantage.

“This deal also provides us some roster flexibility, both now and going forward.”

Indeed, since the Spurs received only a future draft pick, they were able to jettison Udrih’s $1.75 million contract. Washington’s contract is believed to be at or near the rookie minimum, which is $427,163 for the 2007-08 season.

Udrih played in 73 regular season games last season, averaging 4.7 points and 1.7 assists in an average of 13.0 minutes per game. He saw action in only eight of the Spurs’ 20 playoff games and scored only two post-season points in a total of only 20 post-season minutes.



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http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA102907.web.beno.en.1bbe503cb.html

[ElNono]

You also have to love the fact they waited to the last day to pull the trigger on this one, basically ensuring Beno would not be starting the season with any NBA team. Way to send a message.

[FromWayDowntown]

This trade tells me the Spurs are higher on Washington than I originally thought. Beno sucked but he was at least good enough for use in an emergency.
I agree with that idea. While I think the notion of trading Beno has always been a topic of discussion, I think the Spurs feel as though they have a comfort zone with Washington that allows them to enter the season with 3 points including Darius.

This is another area in which the past, I think, taught a lesson. Pop went into the 2003-04 season with, essentially, Parker and Carter as his point guards. When Parker couldn't play in the opener, and then Carter got hurt 2 games in, the Spurs scrambled to bring in Jason Hart and Shane Heal. They spent the rest of the season with only Hart as a backup to Parker (until the infamous Charlie Ward acquisition) and had nobody who could really play the point when Parker needed rest. That team survived on motion and ball movement, but I think Pop has always desired the safety blanket of having true point-type players to run the show. The point guard fiasco of 2003-04 begot the drafting of Beno Udrih, which has now run its course. In the meantime, Pop has made finding point guards a bit of a priority.

Identifying a 3rd guy who could be trusted to play quality minutes at the point in the NBA was likely the spark that made the Beno deal come to fruition.


Washington now has a great opportunity. It sounds like he's going to open the year as the backup point guard. If he plays well enough, Pop is the type of coach that will allow him to keep that job. Even if Washington eventually fails, Vaughn would just need a few games to warm up and be ready for the playoffs.
I think Darius is going to have to do a lot to convince Pop to abandon Vaughn as the backup, mostly because the notion of sending Darius to Austin has some developmental appeal. I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Darius could, in essence, play his way out of assignment to the Toros if he's good early on, but I suspect that the plan for him is a tour of duty in Austin while Vaughn resumes the backup point role.


I kinda like the idea of making Washington the backup point guard for the first couple months of the season to see how good he is. At worst, Pop has Vaughn to fall back on. At best, Washington can provide more than Vaughn and be another weapon for this team.
I see the logic in that scenario and think it could be a perfect spot to make that kind of a move. At the very least, it seems we can be sure that he's mentally tougher and far more motivated than Beno, even if not as physically talented as Beno is. I still have the feeling that Darius will get some chances early, but that even if he shows some signs, the Spurs will focus more on development than getting immediate contributions.

[remingtonbo2001]

I wonder what RC means by providing flexibility NOW and going forward. Is there someone else the FO is interested in obtaining?

To be traded by the champions is one thing. But then to be cut by one of the worst teams in the league, that's something else.

[SpursFanFirst]

http://www.insidehoops.com/udrih-trade-102907.shtml

2nd round pick Minnesota

Awesome! There's gonna be a lot of celebrating on this board tonight! :elephant

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Jr: Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God, Bah God

[T Park]

WHERES THE ELATION EMOTICON!?!?


DING DONG THE LITTLE BITCH IS DEAD!!!!

Im gonna do a papelbon and dance a fucking jig.

WHOOOOO HOOOO!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You also have to love the fact they waited to the last day to pull the trigger on this one, basically ensuring Beno would not be starting the season with any NBA team. Way to send a message.

Um, I think you're reading way too much into this one.

It's more like they caught McHale drunk off his ass at home and pulled a fast one before he could sober up.

[Holt's Cat]

I wonder what RC means by providing flexibility NOW and going forward. Is there someone else the FO is interested in obtaining?

To be traded by the champions is one thing. But then to be cut by one of the worst teams in the league, that's something else.

They can now add another player without going over the lux tax threshold.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

WHERES THE ELATION EMOTICON!?!?


DING DONG THE LITTLE BITCH IS DEAD!!!!

Im gonna do a papelbon and dance a fucking jig.

WHOOOOO HOOOO!!

can we package SA Express writer Jeff McDonald too?

[bigdog]

its ABOUT TIME!

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

What the hell are we supposed to bitch about now??

[Tippecanoe]

What the hell are we supposed to bitch about now??

i guess its back to FIRE POP WL$P*#)@*#$)OIUW*#)

[jaespur21]

Happy Happy Joy Joy .....Cya Beno

[Cherry]

They sent my Beno to Minnesota.

This stinks. Now I have to root for the Wolves.



You are not alone. This year, i will root for the Rockets :devil

[SpursFanFirst]

Minny roster is full, they have to cut someone.
It will be interesting to see if Beno will be the one cut or if Minny cut someone else and want to see what Beno can do.

I've only started reading this thread, but I could've sworn it said right in the article that Minnesota was going to waive Beno. Did I misread?

[CubanMustGo]

Nope. Salary cap deal where the Spurs send Beno and $2-$3M in order to save 2x that much. Minny gets free money and gives up a pick so highly protected it'll never get to SA.

[T Park]

You are not alone. This year, i will root for the Rockets

Adios.



I've only started reading this thread, but I could've sworn it said right in the article that Minnesota was going to waive Beno. Did I misread?

Yeah Minnesota isn't totally stupid. They cut his ass as soon as his name was official on the Minnesota side.

[ShoogarBear]

I will have more on this topic later.:lmao :lmao :lmao

[O-Factor]

Sweet bastard!

[SenorSpur]

Wow! I've been away from the forum for several hours, I log in and see that it's Xmas time in November, baby! Best news of the offseason. Well, okay. Almost.

Still, the Spurs have rid themselves of their last piece of dead weight. I'm thrilled for Darius and now he doesn't have to look over his shoulder and is assured a future here if he continues to develop.

This cap the end of a very memorable offseason for the Spurs.

I'd worry now about who they're going to pick up for that last roster spot. But it's time to have a drink on this one!
:toast

[remingtonbo2001]

You are not alone. This year, i will root for the Rockets :devil

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

[tmtcsc]

When asked to comment on the trade of a second round pick for Beno Udrih, McHale responded with..

"Hey, you guys don't get it. Pop tossed in one of his favorite wines for us to do the deal. Which wine ? The one in the box. Besides, I've been making trades all summer. I want a player I can cut and Beno will be fantastic in that role."


Do you think we'll make a move for Juwan Howard or PJ Brown ?

[Cherry]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

I will root for Chicago and SA too... :spin

[jackseven]

Beno sucked but he was at least good enough for use in an emergency.

Woah, let's not say things we can't take back.

Timvp needs to curb Timvp's emotions.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

yes yes yes. and we didnt have to waive him. thanks kevin!

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is fuckn national news, lets go out and celebrate

[ShoogarBear]

In the crazy world of NBA salarycapland:

Eq. 1: Beno + cash = protected 2nd-round pick

Eq. 2: Butler + Scola = Spanoulis + 2nd-round pick + cash

now protected 2nd-round pick = 0, therefore Eq. 1 becomes

Eq. 3 cash = -Beno

Combining Eqs. 2 and 3,
Butler + Scola = Spanoulis + 2nd round pick -Beno

Butler = out of league = 0
Spanoulis = out of league = 0
Beno = out of league = 0

therefore,
Scola = 2nd round pick

It all fits together, Q.E.D.

[El_Mago]

I am going to miss partying with Beno and the guys.

Bliss just won't be the same without him.

Especially drunk nights at Las Palapas.

Oh well.

[whottt]

You are not alone. This year, i will root for the Rockets :devil



Manumaniac...your thoughts?

[Mister Sinister]

Holy shit, this week will be such fucking win.
Monday: Beno gets traded. ST celebrates.
Tuesday: NBA starts. Life=better
Wednesday: Halloween. Shagia is bitched at for scaring neighborhood chlidren.
Thursday: Last day of work for the week.
Weekend: Anime con.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I believe he also got cut by the wolves...

[smrattler]

We managed to get rid of the two most useless contracts we had on the books. We managed to keep our 1st rounder this year in Spain to polish his skills and be a monster next year. We dumped our 2nd rounder who wasn't good enough and non-guaranteed. We got cash for VSPan and signed Udoka, et all with it.

We are LEAN and MEAN!!!!

[zepn]

The Wolves traded a conditional second-round pick to the Spurs for money and guard Beno Udrih. The Wolves waived Udrih and the pick will be lost only if the Wolves finish with one of the four top records in the NBA this season.

http://www.startribune.com/wolves/story/1516287.html

[ShoogarBear]

the pick will be lost only if the Wolves finish with one of the four top records in the NBA this season.
Holy crap. :lmao :lmao

Talk about a safe pick.

[spurschick]

I know I'm late to this party, but after the shitty day I had, this news makes me so happy that I want to cry.
:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[timvp]

The Wolves traded a conditional second-round pick to the Spurs for money and guard Beno Udrih. The Wolves waived Udrih and the pick will be lost only if the Wolves finish with one of the four top records in the NBA this season.

http://www.startribune.com/wolves/story/1516287.htmlSo there's a chance.

:smokin

[angel_luv]

I know I'm late to this party, but after the shitty day I had, this news makes me so happy that I want to cry.
:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant


I'm sorry you had a bad day.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So there's a chance.

:smokin

Considering the whole "2006" pick, are we sure it's not "one of the four worst"?

That would make some sense, actually.

Why would the Wolves be concerned with protecting picks in the high 50s?

[SequSpur]

Why would a team trade for a guy and then waive him? How in the hell does that save money? Someone care to explain?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Why would a team trade for a guy and then waive him? How in the hell does that save money? Someone care to explain?

Spurs sent cash, too.

[spurschick]

Spurs sent cash, too.

Hell, I'd of sent cash, some Santikos movie tickets, some Pace Picante, a case of Shiner.. whatever!

[ShoogarBear]

So there's a chance.

:smokinThe 2008 Master Plan lives!

[pad300]

The Wolves traded a conditional second-round pick to the Spurs for money and guard Beno Udrih. The Wolves waived Udrih and the pick will be lost only if the Wolves finish with one of the four top records in the NBA this season.

http://www.startribune.com/wolves/story/1516287.html


Two questions for everyone

1) Did the wolves send us a trade exception back, or were they far enough under Salary Cap just to eat beno's contract. If they did send us a trade exception, how big?

2) Sure, the pick is protected in 2008. But what is the protection in 2k9 and 2k10? Remember, protected draft picks don't just dissapear. THey need to wait some number of years that I don't recall right now (either 3 or 5) before they become void...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Hell, I'd of sent cash, some Santikos movie tickets, some Pace Picante, a case of Shiner.. whatever!

That sounds like a GTG.

[Thompson]

2) Sure, the pick is protected in 2008. But what is the protection in 2k9 and 2k10? Remember, protected draft picks don't just dissapear. THey need to wait some number of years that I don't recall right now (either 3 or 5) before they become void...

Didn't the Chicago pick disappear this past year, or do we get it this year if they finish in the top 8? As far as the Timberwolves' pick is concerned, even if it lasts for 3 or 5 years, I don't think they'll finish with a top four record.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The 2008 Master Plan lives!
:lmao

[wildbill2u]

http://www.insidehoops.com/udrih-trade-102907.shtml

2nd round pick Minnesota
Oh mi gawd. Half of the posters here won't have anything to bitch about from now on. This place will turn into a love fest for fans of the Spurs to laud their team and coaches. :rolleyes

[DynastyBuilder]

This may be one of the greatest threads of all-time!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Two questions for everyone

1) Did the wolves send us a trade exception back, or were they far enough under Salary Cap just to eat beno's contract. If they did send us a trade exception, how big?

2) Sure, the pick is protected in 2008. But what is the protection in 2k9 and 2k10? Remember, protected draft picks don't just dissapear. THey need to wait some number of years that I don't recall right now (either 3 or 5) before they become void...

The Wolves are over the lux tax right now I believe, so it had to be a trade exception (and there are news reports that this only went down due to the exception they got in the Ricky Davis and company trade last week).

[pad300]

Didn't the Chicago pick disappear this past year, or do we get it this year if they finish in the top 8? As far as the Timberwolves' pick is concerned, even if it lasts for 3 or 5 years, I don't think they'll finish with a top four record.


Yes, it did, but that was how many years after the original deal? According to NBADraft.net that was from the Errick Barkley trade (that was in 2002). The pick was originally a 2003 2nd round pick, protected. This suggests that we have until 2012 to collect...
http://www.nbadraft.net/2007draftnotes.asp

Usually, the protection on a pick decreases as it gets older ... ie if its protected to bottom 4 in 08, maybe bottom 8 in 09, and bottom 12 in 2010.

[Mister Sinister]

This thread delivers.

[thispego]

This thread delivers.
and you repeatedly fail to

[wildbill2u]

Trading Beno saved :
- $1.75M in salary.
- $1.3M in Luxury tax
- between $1.5M and $2M in luxury tax money redistribution.

They save between $4.5M and $5M.
Just wait. The Holt Haters around here will suddenly be moaning about the FO getting rid of Beno only because Holt is so cheap and motivated only by the money he saved with this trade.

[SequSpur]

Why would a team trade for a guy and then waive him? How in the hell does that save money? Someone care to explain?

bump... :rolleyes

[timvp]

bump... :rolleyesPrint out the thread, bind it with a green cover and read it. All your questions will be answered.

:reading

[MagnusKrauss]

HOLY CRUD!!!!!!! Just saw the news and I couldn't believe what just happened!!!!!

OMG This deal just made my day! What the hell was McHale thinking?

Could it be that Pop made him an "offer he couldn't refuse"??????

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Free Tacos for everyone!!!! (except Beno)

--------------------------

magnusdrakenkrauss

[SequSpur]

Print out the thread, bind it with a green cover and read it. All your questions will be answered.

:reading

??? it doesn't explain ish.

[dougp]

Won't be missed ... toodle-loo buckaroo.

[zepn]

bump... :rolleyes

Because the Spurs paid the Wolves more than it cost them to waive him.

[Mr. Body]

Just wait. The Holt Haters around here will suddenly be moaning about the FO getting rid of Beno only because Holt is so cheap and motivated only by the money he saved with this trade.

I think you'll find in the minds of most of this board this is among the greatest things Holt has ever done.

[Brutalis]

I honestly didn't think it would happen.

[AFBlue]

I'm pretty sure it's already been said in the previous 9+ pages, but this is a clear indication to me that the Spurs are impressed and confident in Darius Washington.

Spurs could've traded Beno away for scraps at any time in the past two years, but it took them having real confidence that there wouldn't be a void left with his departure (as well as the monetary incentive) to make the deal.

Am I right to assume Washington will get some serious burn over the next couple weeks?

If so, I'm excited to see what he can bring....

[BeerIsGood!]

Wonderful news. I never have to see that waste in a Spurs uniform again.

[DieMrBond]

I read somewhere that Washington was being pimped as the equal to Telfair, back when he wasnt a bust, when he was in highschool - is that true?

Has he got his head on straight? Is he spurs material, or a 'baller'? (The article said the reason telfair made it to the pros easier, was Washington was too arrogant and only would pass to teammates if they played defence - surely thats a good thing :))

And thank goodness (sorry groupies) that Beno is gone - last thing the Spurs need or want is a cancer in the lockerroom as he was being reported to becoming...

[Das Texan]

GLORIOUS!!!!!!!


Fuck Beno.

[E20]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! This is fucking breaking news. This is the craziest piece of news I've heard all summer...........OMFG............................. ........WOW WOW I gotta read this whole thread.

[phyzik]

great start to the season.

[clubalien]

:lmao @ Kevin McHale.

He traded a second rounder for Beno?!?!?!
spurs tradeded a first rounder for a 2nd :bang

but beno does suck :downspin:

[RashoFan]

Damn..half the forum is in here!!! Sorry Beno, Good Luck in Minnesota. You will be closer to Rasho in Minnesota then here. Best Wishes.

[gameFACE]

I remember him getting Rookie of the Week during his first year here and got to participate in the rookie challenge. Then after that he took a downturn and never recovered. So long and farewell!

Welcome Darius! :toast