The Official Scola Thread

[jay014]

I guess you have so many things to do,you don't even have time to post because of your job and I have alot of time since I live with my parents and don't have a job but sometimes soccer practice gets in the way.



Being a die hard fan doesn't make you an analist at all dude.
Actually I don't know shit about Spurs history I 've only been watching since Manu joined and became a huge fan when they added Oberto,but when them traded Scola to the Rockets so them can sign Bonner for the same amount of 3 million I became very angery with the Spurs f.o. so now I cheer or the Rockets. I'm still going to keep my Ginobilis' Babe t-shirt to go with my Scolas' Slut t-shirt.



Like I said before,While there's still a Scola thread,I'll keep sucking on it,unloading while I view his Stats and performances.
You don't really have to read them. I mean it.
http://geekofalltrades.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/fag.jpg

[Rainman]

Timvp has thrown his lot in with the Scola lovers long ago and has a notorious track record of never giving up on his agenda.


Elson could average quint double for a season and it'll still be a flubbed rebound he hammers on.






Wins?

Whottt I've read a few of your comments and I would say you tend to be a bit of a homer and that might be an under statement. Scola is actually not just an offensive player he can do it little bit of everything except hit 3 pointers. He plays a lot like Shane Battier except as a PF. His defense is solid as he showed against Duncan and he kept Amare away from the basket the other night vs the Suns.

His rebounding is also a strenght did you see him get three or four offensive rebounds over Camby, one of the better rebounding big men in the NBA, to eventually get fouled and shoot free throws. He very active on the court so much so that he tends to slap at the ball to much and he gets into foul trouble but lately foul trouble has not been a problem for him.

Right now he's still being under utilized but if the Rockets start to look to him to score more he could easily get 15 to 20 pts most nights and about 8 to 10 boards. I would say he's better than Bonner in about 80 out of 82 games during an average NBA season. :lol

[Harry Callahan]

I guess you have so many things to do,you don't even have time to watch BB,coze you know shit about it.



Being a die hard fan doesn't make you an analist at all dude.
Actually anybody here may know a litle of the spurs History,which is not the subjet here.
We are talking about actual players and actual Stats,not History.



Ok,I tell you what,since I'm so bad in English as you say I am,why don't we discuss this in ISPANISH?????
I guess you are not able to do that
So,since I'm the one speaking two lenguajes here,that makes me smarter tham you.


I'm not telling you to read shit, I just do what I want,and say what I want to say,easy as that.Don't like it? Don't read it.

Yeah,to get rid of Big Ass Batler, so what?
Otherwise He would've been still in Europe.




Scola> Malik, sorry to break it down to you like that.





Like I said before,While there's still a Scola thread,I'll keep posting on it,updating Stats and performances.
You don't really have to read them. I mean it.

It did not take you long to respond to my request to sit down and shut up once in awhile. You instead decided to throw out a bunch of garbage without any facts. You think your opinion is the be all and end all when it relates to basketball. Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

Here are some actual stats from actual players for you you sorry HIJO DE PUTA (you were wrong once again, I know at least a little Spanish):

LS Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 17.3 Malik Rose Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 18

LS Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12.9 Malik Rose Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12

Since you are such a statistical whiz and great basketball analyst, please explain to me how LS is a better player than Malik Rose when I presented this information to you.

Did you know that Malik Rose would gamely defend players from Dirk N and Shaq O'Neal for significant stretches of time when he was a regular rotation player in SA. You are probably too stupid to realize that I was actually complementing your boy Luis. He could do a lot worse than be Malik Rose.

At least for now, statistically, Rose and Scola are essentially the same guy. That could change in time but stats are stats, right?

Argie, I know my stuff, so you really don't want to mess with me. My point of reference for Spurs basketball and NBA basketball has been lifelong and goes well before the day Manu Ginobili signed with the Spurs (which is almost certainly your point of reference regarding the NBA). I hear or see the vast majority of Spurs games.

The recent mass volume of posts from you in this thread tells me you are possibly a jobless nerd shut-in sitting in a room all day long. If I am wrong, I sincerely apoligize.

Take heart Argie, If you continue to read my posts, you will learn much more about the English language as well as NBA basketball.

Later puta.

[ArgSpursFan.]

.

Later puta.

I guess,At least you learned some Spanish by listening to people calling your MOM. Good for you.

[ArgSpursFan.]

LS Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 17.3 Malik Rose Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 18

LS Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12.9 Malik Rose Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12

It would've been nice from you to come up with Malik Stats in his roockie year,so we can compare both players in their first year in the league,trying to get use to it and their teammantes. I guess you wont do that,coze that way you would own yourself.
But there's something that don't show in the stats sheet,and It's Fundamentals and BBIQ,and just people who played BB can actually look at .
I guess that won't be your case eather.
Listen,Asswhole,next time try to come up with some serius facts and analizis,that way you won't keep looking stupid as you are right now.
Try to google some more word in spanish next time not just one or two,that way people will actually think that you know some spanish :lmao

Later bitch.

[jay014]

http://www.putanesca.tv/images/PutaPee4.gifARGSPURSFAN let it go he's gone. How old are you? Your mom, didn't you get banned for that?

[Indazone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZYfB7AkAE

Francis to Scola, " I'm gonna make u a star"

;)

[ArgSpursFan.]

http://www.putanesca.tv/images/PutaPee4.gifARGSPURSFAN let it go he's gone. How old are you? Your mom, didn't you get banned for that?

what's up Jerk!!........I mean Jay.

[Indazone]

Waiting for a Vbookie with Scola. Gotta be rebounds or pts.

[Harry Callahan]

ArgieSpur,
There was no doubt in my mind you would wake and the first thing you would do is go to the computer and get on this thread. My message did its job and woke you up.

First you call me a pussy and say I don't know shit. I present you with some "serius", factual statistics (since you are all about stats) regarding your boy and Malik. You didn't like what the stats I presented showed, so you change the rules.

You then say its not about the stats - its about Fundamentals and Basketball IQ. Now you say only people that played basketball (which I did growing up by the way) are the only ones capable of "serius facts and analizis".

Will your endless droning now discuss basketball IQ and fundamentals instead of the cold hard stats you post day after day? You need to decide what the deal is - stats or intangibles.

Malik Rose was not 27 years old with ten years of professional experience in his rookie year. He was a 22 year old from a small school (Drexel) who was with the Charlotte Hornets for a year before coming to the Spurs (a little history lesson there to educate you a little more). I believe it is a valid comparison between the two players. After all, you know your boy was "the best big man not in the NBA" according to a lot of people. Malik Rose has had a very nice NBA career and as I said before, it is not an insult to say LS may[I] be another Malik Rose type of player.

The rest of your post you call me an "Assehole" and a bitch (congrats - you spelled that one right - you are making progress). You really should apply to one of the sports networks in Argentina and become a professional basketball analyst. You really threw out some insightful stuff there.

Just because I have an opinion that does not exactly match yours, you resort to calling someone filthy names. No one else, according to you, is able to provide any "serius facts and analizis". I guess you should change your user ID to "The King of Serius Basketball Facts and analizis". Oh - that name may be too long. Maybe you should be "King of Basketball".

Now, can you show me the ability to respond to my post in an intelligent, thoughtful way? C'mon, give it a try.

[ArgSpursFan.]

ArgieSpur,
There was no doubt in my mind you would wake and the first thing you would do is go to the computer and get on this thread. My message did its job and woke you up.
First you call me a pussy and say I don't know shit. I present you with some "serius", factual statistics (since you are all about stats) regarding your boy and Malik. You didn't like what the stats I presented showed, so you change the rules.

I never change the rules,you're comparing Scola's stats in less tham 15 games in the NBA with Malik's CARREER stats,that's ridiculous and totaly out of point.
And I wouldn't mind Scola being as good as Malik in his prime,but I just don't think they're the same type of players. that's all.Why Malik is the tipical Strong and agresive Black American type of player,Scola is the tipical Euro post player,more skilled and less athletic.
If you could take your time an watch some Rockets game,you'll see that Scola's game is not even near Malik's.
They're deferent, that's all.They're both good role players though.


You then say its not about the stats - its about Fundamentals and Basketball IQ.

Never said that,I said Scola has more tham good stats for being a roockie, wich is: Fundamentals,BBIQ ect.


Now you say only people that played basketball (which I did growing up by the way) are the only ones capable of "serius facts and analizis".

yes ,I did say that.
so if you know something about the game of BB, you would realize that Malik is more of a Physical player,and Scola is totally Deferent tham Malik.
Like I say,stats only, don't show you the whole picture on a player's profile.


I believe it is a valid comparison between the two players. After all, you know your boy was "the best big man not in the NBA" according to a lot of people. Malik Rose has had a very nice NBA career and as I said before, it is not an insult to say LS may[I] be another Malik Rose type of player.,

I always liked Malik Rose energy and strenght when playing for the Spurs. But I just don't think It's fair to compare carreer stats on Malik, with only 15 first games of Scola,who's still getting use to the NBA rules and a new team.
We could actually bring this thread back next year,and them we'll compare Scola's carreer stats with Malik's. will that be ok them?


Just because I have an opinion that does not exactly match yours, you resort to calling someone filthy names. No one else, according to you, is able to provide any "serius facts and analizis". I guess you should change your user ID to "The King of Serius Basketball Facts and analizis". Oh - that name may be too long. Maybe you should be "King of Basketball".

I'm not.But I'm not a blind homer eather.
I'm going by what I see in games and boxscores.
If you look at my posts history you will see that I never said Scola was gonna be an All Star type of player,but a very decent role player for the NBA,and that SA made a mistake by trading him for nothing,while we have the worst backup front line in the league right now(Bonner+Elson)



Now, can you show me the ability to respond to my post in an intelligent, thoughtful way? C'mon, give it a try.

Ok,fair enough.
BTW,you'll also see my post and opinions When he has a bad game too.I'm trying to be objetive here.

[jay014]

what's up Jerk!!........I mean Jay.
Whats up Scolasnutlover!!.........................I mean hijo de (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXolkYmTzsQ)

[Harry Callahan]

Good response AgSpursfan. Thanks.

I get to see some Houston games. The SA game where LS made almost all his shots was obviously one that sticks out. On a day to day basis, LS will be pretty good. LS's problem regarding his numbers is that he has to compete for shots with Yao and McGrady. Most of the time those guys defer to Yao and McGrady to take shots at crunch time. The Rockets are more one on one oriented right now than the Spurs (with McGrady, James, Wells, and Alston).

I don't know if you saw Rose a lot when he was in SA and was a much better player than he is now. But he could go out there and get big numbers from time to time. To my recollection, I remember a game I think in 2004 against the Mavericks where one of our big three was injured (I think it may have even been Timmy with a sprained ankle) and Malik got 25 and 15 (or something close to that). He did develop a decent outside jump shot later in his SA tenure.

I see Scola doing those types of things on occasion - once again everything starts with Yao and McGrady down there and eveyone else has to fight for scraps.

I don't think Bonner and Elson are the worst backup bigs in the NBA. It usually takes a couple of years to really get into the flow of the Spurs system (Fabricio for example, Barry is another). I think Bonner has some really good qualities but is in a slump right now. I got to see SA vs. Portland last January in person and he was productive defensively with good energy and hustle - most importantly i recall him hitting his 3s (he must do this again to spread the floor for our star players). He was doing a good job last year before he hurt his knee. Elson is a really good athlete who is too just too inconsistent. Horry will help out in the near future and I am hopeful all three can pitch in.

As for the long term future, I just wonder if the drafting of Mahimi and (more importantly) Splitter made the FO feel better about the the long-term future of the Power Forward / Center spot because they are younger at 21 or 22 years old. If I had the ability to made the decision, I still would never have done business with Houston.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

it's true, the Rockets are a selfish team, and you would think Tmac would have realize Scola as a scorer when he was out, but he's a gunner and always will be



Scola being so unselfish would have been perfect with the Spurs

[Indazone]

T-Mac is a gunner and so is Kobe and Michael Redd. When you got someone who is that talented, you give them the ball. Scola will have to pick up his points the same way David Lee does in NY. Putbacks and rebounds.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Good response AgSpursfan. Thanks.

I get to see some Houston games. The SA game where LS made almost all his shots was obviously one that sticks out. On a day to day basis, LS will be pretty good. LS's problem regarding his numbers is that he has to compete for shots with Yao and McGrady. Most of the time those guys defer to Yao and McGrady to take shots at crunch time. The Rockets are more one on one oriented right now than the Spurs (with McGrady, James, Wells, and Alston).

I see what you're saying Harry Callahan, and I know it will be tough for Scola to get a chance to be a 15 ppg guy in Houston with Yao and T-mac in the same team, but I also think that this ussue will help him out in the long run
Here's why: Scola was always the main man in most of the teams he played for so far. Now that He has to play with Monsters like T-Mac Francis Yao ect, He will have to focus more on the other things, like: Rebounding,Defense,Setting good screems for his teammates, getting Offensive boards to get a second option etc.
There's something that most of the Argies players in the NBA have in commun,and that is:they're smart, team players,not selfish at all,hard workers on games and practices,and most important:they play with passion and have a big heart. that's why I don't think Scola will have a problem at all with getting less chances to score,but when given the ball He´ll make the best of it.



I don't know if you saw Rose a lot when he was in SA and was a much better player than he is now. But he could go out there and get big numbers from time to time. To my recollection, I remember a game I think in 2004 against the Mavericks where one of our big three was injured (I think it may have even been Timmy with a sprained ankle) and Malik got 25 and 15 (or something close to that). He did develop a decent outside jump shot later in his SA tenure.

I always liked Malik Rose when playing in SA,Like I said before. I like people who are Humble and play with passion. I just don't see they're the same(with Scola)Eventhough I believe Scola will end up with about the same carreer stats as Malik's in the NBA(or maybe just a little better numbers in PPG)
But they are Diferent as far as skills and Strenght.
While Rose is or was more physical and strong,with a real big body and weight to play inside and use his body,Scola is more about foot work, great passer,and he moves and finds the right spots in order to get an easy basket.He also sets good screems and his mid range jumper off the pick and role is pretty effective.


I see Scola doing those types of things on occasion - once again everything starts with Yao and McGrady down there and eveyone else has to fight for scraps.
I don't think Scola has a problem with Things starting with Yao and T-mac at all.Like I say before,as long as he keeps moving around and setting screems for his teammates ,given the ball He'll make the best of it.



I don't think Bonner and Elson are the worst backup bigs in the NBA. It usually takes a couple of years to really get into the flow of the Spurs system (Fabricio for example, Barry is another). I think Bonner has some really good qualities but is in a slump right now. I got to see SA vs. Portland last January in person and he was productive defensively with good energy and hustle - most importantly i recall him hitting his 3s (he must do this again to spread the floor for our star players). He was doing a good job last year before he hurt his knee. Elson is a really good athlete who is too just too inconsistent. Horry will help out in the near future and I am hopeful all three can pitch in.
As far as Bonner and Elson, I stand by my thoughts.
I do understand that players need time to get used to Pop's system,but I just don't like what I see individually speaking.I'm talking about body lenguaje and fundamentals in general,but most important I don't see enough BBIQ in any of them,to succed in the NBA.
I give you Bonner's 3 pts range. But I just don't see a PF making a pay check just out of it,there has to be more, Coze even Horry on his prime was more tham a 3 pts shooter,and we know that.



As for the long term future, I just wonder if the drafting of Mahimi and (more importantly) Splitter made the FO feel better about the the long-term future of the Power Forward / Center spot because they are younger at 21 or 22 years old. If I had the ability to made the decision, I still would never have done business with Houston.
Splitter with be a very good NBA player,there's no doubt in my mind he will be, I see him being a 15/10 guy easily. As far as Mahinmi,time will tell. He's got the body to succeed in the NBA, but I just don't think He's got the mind to do it.
We´ll see what happens


BTW, Thanx for your response :tu

[mystargtr34]

ArgScolaFan glued to the Rockets Kings match

[CubanMustGo]

T-mac is back ... 29 shots for him so far, one for Scola. :lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

beno looms

how come scola gets his own thread?

[Indazone]

I freaking hate Beno!!! :bang

[meta2007]

Why didn't rockets get Beno??? :rolleyes


I freaking hate Beno!!! :bang

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The chokerics just chocked again!

[whottt]

Beno>Scola

[DOMINATOR]

Beno>Scola
refs+random scrub > yao

[mystargtr34]

Wow the Rockets have really lost their defensive edge... no one else is stepping up

[romain.star]

what a game by Scola !!
impressive !

[mystargtr34]

lol now now

[Texas_Ranger]

If Scola's got a thread the Beno should have it also. :rollin

[jay014]

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/24/300_cokezero.jpg

[batman2883]

i told everyone scola=god

[wildbill2u]

Scola is averaging 19 minutes, 5.8 rebounds and 6.8 points for 18 games. Not bad, but not world shaking either. He seems a little tenative about shooting sometimes but that could be deference to Yao and T-Mac.

On defense against the Kings, his man took him to the basket on the dribble whenever he wanted to and usually picked up a foul as well. This may prove to be his Achilles heel in the NBA.

If I had had the choice to make I would've got rid of Horry and kept Bonner and Scola while looking to the future. They each have some good points and bad points.

[Harry Callahan]

It's hard to get any numbers when another teammate takes 40 shots. Wow! I don't think a Spurs player (except for Ice) ever took 40 shots. As I said yesterday, the other Rocket players are fighting for scraps (shots that is).

Sounds like Beno put up good numbers again. It's sad that a player does not have the drive to be a good player on a championship team the last two years. Alas, the contract year is now upon him, and Beno awakens from his self imposed slumber. Once again Sacramento, buyer beware.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

with Duncan down for a few weeks MINIMUM, Scola in the starting lineup for the Spurs will be great


with Manu coming off the bench Spurs can still be a force




oh wait..............

[jay014]

with Duncan down for a few weeks MINIMUM, Scola in the starting lineup for the Spurs will be great


with Manu coming off the bench Spurs can still be a force




oh wait..............
I'm dreaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZnlbZ7mp3U&feature=related).....for you and all the Spurs fans that can't let it go.

[Roxsfan]

i told everyone scola=god


love your sig :clap

[mystargtr34]

If only we spent 3 mil on Scola as insurance for when Duncan gets injured... 5 games ... it could have been the difference.

[Indazone]

If only we spent 3 mil on Scola as insurance for when Duncan gets injured... 5 games ... it could have been the difference.

Oh c'mon you guys got Oberto and Elson. They should fill in nicely for Duncan. :nutkick:

[CubanMustGo]

Spurs without Scola 15-3
New, "improved" Rockets w/Scola 9-9

'nuf said

[ArgSpursFan.]

I didn't get to watch this game. Looks like it was a bad game for Scola,or there was a missmatch that didn't let him stay in the court more tham 14 mins. I really don't know.
Still Scola and Battier are the only two Rockets players with a Positive (+5 and +3 ) on their stats sheets.
I don't know why Francis didn't even play eather.
Anyways, Scola: 14 mins 0 pts 4 rbs 3 PF 1 TO.

[Indazone]

Francis fell on his rear and bruised his tailbone after the Golden State game.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Francis fell on his rear and bruised his tailbone after the Golden State game.
ok,I see why now.

[I'm So Hood]

who's scola?

[I'm So Hood]

why are you guys talking about a role player - is it that big of a deal?

[Bruno]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Rookies-071205&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dthorpe_ david%26page%3dRookies-071205


In the Rockets' nine wins this year, Luis Scola is averaging 4.7 points on 47 percent shooting in 17 minutes. In the Rockets' nine losses, he averages 9 points on 58 percent shooting in 23 minutes.

[Budkin]

Oops... wrong thread.

[Hemotivo]

16pts

[jay014]

16pts
Is there a Rockets Forum were you can post?

[Hemotivo]

Is there a Rockets Forum were you can post?
:dramaquee

[jay014]

:dramaquee :flipoff cock :sucker

[Hemotivo]

:lol

[Indazone]

:dramaquee

Yo..Gotta say this.


SCOLA RULES!!!!!!

bitchslap!!!

[RC's Boss]

Wow 16 pts. Break out the records books. That is a HOF stat right there buddy (making masturbation gesture with my hand)

[Indazone]

Wow 16 pts. Break out the records books. That is a HOF stat right there buddy (making masturbation gesture with my hand)

I'll take that seeing that all he got was 17 minutes.

[ShoogarBear]

Damn, if only the Spurs coulda had Scola to step in for Duncan against the Mavs . . .

[Indazone]

Difference in the Grizzlies game is that Adelman with the long layoff told his players to distribute the ball more. Now they are passing the ball to Scola instead of the Yao/T-Mac show. Bonzi scored 24 pts.

[I'm So Hood]

really, why are you guys so fired up about this coulda shoulda player. I've watched the rockets a couple of times and this guy is no big deal. from what I've heard he wanted a lot of money to be a bench player and that's all he'll ever be is a bench player. slow and useless doesn't sound like much to talk about

[WalterBenitez]

16 pts and TD injured ... that hurts :bang

[manubili]

16 pts and TD injured ... that hurts :bang

I was thinking the same :madrun

[ArgSpursFan.]

Another Solid game by Scola,last night He showed that he can be a key role player for ANY NBA team and that He can score even in limited minutes.
A Rockets victory,a solid game by Scola.
I wonder what was Bonner's production on last night game for the Spurs. :wakeup

ohh,never mind.

[Indazone]

16 pts in 17 minutes..give him more of Chuck Hayes minutes and you'll see a monster develop under the boards.

[ArgSpursFan.]

16 pts in 17 minutes..give him more of Chuck Hayes minutes and you'll see a monster develop under the boards.

I didn't watch the game,but I did watch the NBA.COM highlights.They showed a strong Offensive board by Scola followed by the basket and the fould for the and 1..
Nice play,and good Offensive board over Gasol.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

Never have so many jerked off so furiously to a win over the Grizzlies.

[ArgSpursFan.]

:lol

Never have so many jerked off so furiously to a win over the Grizzlies.

Tell me chumpD:
What were Bonner's numbers last night again?
Thank you.

[whottt]

Yeah but...where were the rebounds?

Luckily they kept his minutes low or else it would have been another loss. He has to score 16 points in 18 minutes to offset his defensive liabilities, no way for him to keep up that rate....

[ArgSpursFan.]

Yeah but...where were the rebounds?

Luckily they kept his minutes low or else it would have been another loss. He has to score 16 points in 18 minutes to offset his defensive liabilities, no way for him to keep up that rate....

Tell me though:
what were Bonner's numbers last night vs the Mavs??
And He's a 3rd year player while Scola is still a roockie.
Right now Scola is rebounding at the same rate as Elson or Oberto,but being a better scorer,and He's rebounding and scoring at a higher rate tham Bonner.
Nice try Wottt, but keep in mind that people here ain't as stupid as you think they are in order to keep bringing this kind of nonsense arguments you tend to bring.
Like I said before you aint batting at 1.000 no more,a long time ago though.

[jay014]

Tell me chumpD:
What were Bonner's numbers last night again?
Thank you.
Please somebody stop the wagon and let this asshole off! You root for one or other not both regardless who's on or not on the team.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Please somebody stop the wagon and let this asshole off! You root for one or other not both regardless who's on or not on the team.

I'm just prooving people wrong here boy,It's got nothing to do with the Rockets.
So chill out Jerk,......I mean Jay.

[jay014]

You go on and on and on and on and on and on can you pleasehttp://gallery2.mastermaq.ca/photos/1/198/140x140.aspx Scola is good on some nights and bad on others he's not a fuckin all-star. You probably voted for him, am i right? If you want to prove something about Scola you can prove he's inconsistent.

[SAtown]

:lol

Charles Barkley: "Chicago and Miami are the most disappointing teams in the East; Dallas and Denver in the West..."

Kenny Smith: "What about Houston?"

Charles: "No, I knew they would suck before the season started."

[Indazone]

Scola is moving up on the Rookie Rankings. Now rated 6th

http://www.nba.com/rookies/rankings.html

Overall Rankings - Week 5

1. Kevin Durant, G-F, Seattle
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
19 33.8 19.5 4.4 1.9 1.0 1.1 .397 .304 .824

Last Week: 1 | Drafted: 2
I like to think of Kevin Durant as a Bill Clinton type of leader of the Rookie Rankings. Sure he has his flaws, (4-15 team record and inconsistency that leads to games like his six points against Golden State on 2-of-12 shooting), but you can't help but like the guy because of his overall excellence. It was a banner week for KD as he was named Rookie of the Month, dropped a career-high 35 points against Indiana and his team had a not-so morbid 2-3 record.


2. Jamario Moon, F, Toronto
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
15 31.9 8.8 7.9 1.3 1.1 1.7 .445 .261 .667

Last Week: 2 | Drafted: Undrafted
Now that Moon is on the scene, the pogo stick of a man is doing his best to stay there. In five games last week Moon corralled 10-plus rebounds in three of them and had two blocks in four of them. The Toronto rookie is logging a ton of minutes with his teammates Chris Bosh (groin) and Andrea Bargnani (knee) out of the lineup.


3. Al Horford, F-C, Atlanta
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
17 32.4 8.9 10.4 1.2 1.0 1.1 .517 .000 .574

Last Week: 3 | Drafted: 3
Horford is 12th in the league in rebounding, ahead of guys like Yao Ming, Tim Duncan and Amare Stoudemire. It doesn't get much more impressive than that. After playing as the starting power forward and the backup center for the Hawks, Horford has recently settled into the starting center slot in Atlanta.


4. Juan Carlos Navarro, G, Memphis
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
18 23.1 10.9 2.1 2.3 0.7 0.0 .443 .433 0.857

Last Week: 7 | Drafted: 40 by Washington in 2002
Navarro has scored in double digits in seven games straight, even Kevin Garnett can't claim that. KG, who was the NBA's active leader of most consecutive games in double digits at 435, failed to reach the 10-point mark twice last week and had his streak broken.


5. Yi Jianlian, F, Milwaukee
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
17 25.6 9.5 5.5 0.6 0.5 1.1 .436 .300 .783

Last Week: 4 | Drafted: 6
After only grabbing 11 rebounds in his first four games last week, Yi stepped it up and collected 10 boards in his fifth game last night against the Warriors. His production has slipped slightly since the Bucks were off to a 7-4 start. With Milwaukee having lost five of its last six games, it will be interesting to see how Yi responds.


6. Luis Scola, F-C, Houston
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
19 19.8 7.3 5.1 0.8 0.5 0.2 .554 .000 .577

Last Week: 6 | Drafted: 56 by San Antonio in 2002
I like the guy that Scola is becoming for the Rockets, serving as an able substitute for Chuck Hayes and bringing hard-nosed play and tenacity to a team that comes off as soft sometimes. He is the exact opposite of Chamillionaire, who I thought was a big let down when he guest hosted for Xzibit on Pimp My Ride last week. (It's one of my guilty pleasures, OK? Back off.)


7. Sean Williams, C, New Jersey
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
16 19.1 7.0 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.9 .559 .000 .679

Last Week: 5 | Drafted: 17
We know that Jason Kidd is a big supporter of Williams and one of the main reasons that the big man out of Boston College has cracked the Nets rotation. Now that Kidd might be on the trading block, how will that affect Williams' situation?


8. Jeff Green, F, Seattle
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
19 23.3 9.6 5.6 0.8 0.4 0.3 .445 .100 .717

Last Week: 8 | Drafted: 5 by Boston
Green is going to have a class action suit on his hands from fantasy owners across the country if he keeps shooting the three-ball at a 10 percent success rate. Other than that, there continues to be a lot of upside to the All BIG EAST NBA Team member.


9. Daequan Cook, G, Miami
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
10 19.4 10.3 1.9 0.6 0.4 0.1 .461 .343 .955

Last Week: 9 | Drafted: 21 by Philadelphia
My high school history teacher, Mr. Balk, used to do the color commentary for my high school basketball games on public access TV and a line he liked to use describing bench players was, "He's instant offense -- just add playing time," in an ode to an old "Just add water" slogan. Daequan Cook is Instant Offense.


10. Nick Young, G, Washington
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
16 13.9 7.6 1.4 0.8 0.3 0.1 .449 .409 .865

Last Week: 10 | Drafted: 16 by Washington
Young averages 0.547 points per minute played this season. If he was getting as much playing time as Kevin Durant and kept up the same scoring rate, his points per game average would jump to 18.4. He'll be one to watch for if he starts getting more burn.


The Next 10 (alphabetical order): Arron Afflalo (DET), Corey Brewer (MIN), Javaris Crittenton (LAL), Glen Davis (BOS), Jared Dudley (CHA), Spencer Hawes (SAC), Acie Law (ATL), Joakim Noah (CHI), Jason Smith (PHI), Al Thornton (LAC)


Noteworthy

Fesenko
It took Kyrylo Fesenko (UTA) a month and a trip to the D-League before he got off the HNPAMY list, but he perservered and put up six points and seven rebounds in a win against the Lakers.
Acie Law (ATL) returned to the Haws lineup after missing eight games with a sprained left ankle and followed up an 0-for-8 performance in his first game back by going 5-for-6 in his second game.
Demetris Nichols (CLE) was waived to make room for the signing of Anderson Varejao.
Jared Dudley (CHA) is knocking on the door of the top 10, but followed up a 16-point, 10-rebound outing by going 0-for-6 from the field.
The HNPAMY (Have Not Played A Minute Yet) Club: Herbert Hill (PHI), Brandon Wallace* (BOS), Oleksiy Pecherov (WAS), Rodney Stuckey (DET), Ramon Sessions* (MIL), Marcin Gortat* (ORL), JamesOn Curry* (CHI), Adam Haluska (NOH) and Kosta Perovic* (GSW)
* = assigned to the D-League





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[jay014]

Scola is moving up on the Rookie Rankings. Now rated 6th

Overall Rankings - Week 5



6. Luis Scola, F-C, Houston
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
19 19.8 7.3 5.1 0.8 0.5 0.2 .554 .000 .577


Last Week: 6 | Drafted: 56 by San Antonio in 2002
I like the guy that Scola is becoming for the Rockets, serving as an able substitute for Chuck Hayes and bringing hard-nosed play and tenacity to a team that comes off as soft sometimes. He is the exact opposite of Chamillionaire, who I thought was a big let down when he guest hosted for Xzibit on Pimp My Ride last week. (It's one of my guilty pleasures, OK? Back off.)

.
Damn, he's moving up quick

[whottt]

I can't believe we could have signed Jamario Moon...


You want to rip the FO for something...that's it right there.


He's going to be the ROY.


And he was a FA.

[ChumpDumper]

Tell me chumpD:
What were Bonner's numbers last night again?
Thank you.Who cares?

The Spurs won you colossal waste of shit, and they are SIX GAMES ahead of Scola's team.

That's all that ever matters, dumbass.

Thank you, for being the stupidest poster in the history of stupidity.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't believe we could have signed Jamario Moon...


You want to rip the FO for something...that's it right there.


He's going to be the ROY.


And he was a FA.Now I completely agree with this. He was dominating the CBA in about every way possible. I simply thought he was too slight to be as effective as he turned out to be in the NBA.

[I'm So Hood]

Who cares?

The Spurs won you colossal waste of shit, and they are SIX GAMES ahead of Scola's team.

That's all that ever matters, dumbass.

Thank you, for being the stupidest poster in the history of stupidity.


so what's your evaluation of scola so far? has he lived up to the potential that everyone thought he'd be? 7.3 pts per game doesn't sound that impressive - how many nba players have that stat? kudos to argentina fans that support their players, but this post is ridiculous. the sperms are on fire and this douche bag wouldn't necessarily make them better. he'd ride the pine and make a couple of shots, but at the end of the day he wouldn't impact their success enough to overlook the fact that he was asking for a lot of money and a lot of playing time. houston got him cheap b/c he figured out that he wasn't going to get the money he thought he was gonna get. I just don't get this argument - don't get me wrong we'd love to have him.

[MajicMan]

crazy footwork by Scola http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBXiEdXN3A

[ChumpDumper]

so what's your evaluation of scola so far? has he lived up to the potential that everyone thought he'd be? 7.3 pts per game doesn't sound that impressive - how many nba players have that stat? kudos to argentina fans that support their players, but this post is ridiculous. the sperms are on fire and this douche bag wouldn't necessarily make them better. he'd ride the pine and make a couple of shots, but at the end of the day he wouldn't impact their success enough to overlook the fact that he was asking for a lot of money and a lot of playing time. houston got him cheap b/c he figured out that he wasn't going to get the money he thought he was gonna get. I just don't get this argument - don't get me wrong we'd love to have him.Scola is doing ok, but only an idiot would try to say the Spurs could have used him in a game they won without Duncan. Some Argies base their entire self-worth on American basketball fans' opinion of their countrymen. It makes as little sense as saying the Spurs needed Scola to beat the Mavs Wednesday.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Scola is moving up on the Rookie Rankings. Now rated 6th

http://www.nba.com/rookies/rankings.html

Overall Rankings - Week 5



6. Luis Scola, F-C, Houston
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
19 19.8 7.3 5.1 0.8 0.5 0.2 .554 .000 .577

Last Week: 6 | Drafted: 56 by San Antonio in 2002
I like the guy that Scola is becoming for the Rockets, serving as an able substitute for Chuck Hayes and bringing hard-nosed play and tenacity to a team that comes off as soft sometimes. He is the exact opposite of Chamillionaire, who I thought was a big let down when he guest hosted for Xzibit on Pimp My Ride last week. (It's one of my guilty pleasures, OK? Back off.)
.
:fro

[ArgSpursFan.]

Scola is doing ok, but only an idiot would try to say the Spurs could have used him in a game they won without Duncan. Some Argies base their entire self-worth on American basketball fans' opinion of their countrymen. It makes as little sense as saying the Spurs needed Scola to beat the Mavs Wednesday.

Well,at the very least he would've done something more productive tham what scoreless/defenseless Bonner did vs The Mavs.

[Indazone]

T-Mac said that Scola is a great offensive player. He said that he hustles and goes after the ball and he rebounds very well. What he did say is that because Scola was not part of the Van Gundy defense he doesn't know how to rotate defensively but that the rest of the team is working with him to show him how to do it right.

[ChumpDumper]

Well,at the very least he would've done something more productive tham what scoreless/defenseless Bonner did vs The Mavs.Yeah, we all know how well his team does when Scola scores a lot. We would have lost.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Yeah, we all know how well his team does when Scola scores a lot. We would have lost.

really??
last time I checked He got 16 pts and his team won too.
Oh,and T-mac and Yao were there too.
Try something deferent next time, you can do better tham that.

[violentkitten]

I can't believe we could have signed Jamario Moon...


You want to rip the FO for something...that's it right there.


He's going to be the ROY.


And he was a FA.


and that passing on josh howard thing. the spurs already have some bigs who can put up 7 and 5 a night.

[ChumpDumper]

last time I checked He got 16 pts and his team won too.
Never have so many jerked off so furiously to a win over the Grizzlies.

[WalterBenitez]

No posts? everyone is ok?

[ArgSpursFan.]

Every one is good.

[jay014]

I bet your doing great after Scolas' 16 pts.^

[ChumpDumper]

Well,at the very least he would've done something more productive tham what scoreless/defenseless Bonner did vs The Mavs.Hey what do you know? Bonner played well tonight AND the Spurs beat a slightly better team than the Grizzlies.

[whottt]

How about that Oberto...


Too bad Scola and his agent were dumbasses and burnt his bridges with the Spurs...he might have actually had a non-scrub career playing with Manu...might have even won an NBA title.

Enjoy playing with TMac Luis...


Sucks to be you...

[Ariel]

Hey what do you know? Bonner played well tonight AND the Spurs beat a slightly better team than the Grizzlies.
You're right, props to Bonner for tonights game. He did play a big part, and hit some timely shots, so he definitely deserves it.

Although I'd like to hear what some here would have to say if the 32 minutes, 13 points on 41% FG (5-12) and 28% 3PT (2-7), 4 rebounds, no assists, and 2 TOs performance Matt posted today constituted Luis' second best game of his 4th season in the league.

[whottt]

This wasn't Bonner's best game...his best game was like 3 years ago when he had 21 points and 12 rebounds...as a 24 year old...


Scola will never do that...ever.


Amazing what playing for a crappy team can do for a players numbers...playing with the Spurs(and specifically Tim Duncan) has never been known to improve a bigman's numbers.


And how many threes does Scola have now?

[ShoogarBear]

Scola thread!

[whottt]

I'm still pissed we didn't Jamario Moon though...

[Ariel]

This wasn't Bonner's best game...his best game was like 3 years ago when he had 21 points and 12 rebounds...as a 24 year old...
I said "second best game of his 4th season in the league."

Scola will never do that...ever.
Yup, if all he's managed to post are 20 pts and 11 rebounds, and 20 points and 9 rebounds in the few games he's played as someone who's still adjusting to the league and his teammates, that is conclusive evidence he's never ever going to score 4 more points or grab an extra rebound. Sure.

Amazing what playing for a crappy team can do for a players numbers...playing with the Spurs(and specifically Tim Duncan) has never been known to improve a bigman's numbers.
And by the same token, Scola has Yao by his side, who'll also get the first look on offense and better positioning on the boards. BFD.

And, BTW, how come you set the bar so high when it comes to judging Luis? After all, haven't you just said yourself here (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2112545&postcount=4)

I just don't know what you guys expect for 2 mil a season...if he was consistent, he'd be making a lot more than 2 mil per season.
in reference to Elson. You do know that Luis is making less than Elson, right? But somehow Luis has to be sharp and consistent a few games into his NBA career? I'd have to say, for someone so set on bashing him by any means necessary, you sure seem to regard him highly, holding him to such high standard.

[Ariel]

Scola thread!
Go ahead and thank ChumpDumper, who couldn't resist the temptation of bringing up Bonner's game in a Scola thread 5 minutes after the game ended.

[ChumpDumper]

Go ahead and thank ChumpDumper, who couldn't resist the temptation of bringing up Bonner's game in a Scola thread 5 minutes after the game ended.You mad?

It's stickied to the top of the forum. it's not like I bumped it from page 60.

[whottt]

And, BTW, how come you set the bar so high when it comes to judging Luis? After all, haven't you just said yourself here (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2112545&postcount=4)

in reference to Elson.


I don't set the bar hight when it comes to Scola...you guys do.


But since you asked...

Scola is 27 years old and has about maxed out his talent...he's got big minutes, his game is as polished as it's going to go...and his ceiling is low.





You do know that Luis is making less than Elson, right? But somehow Luis has to be sharp and consistent a few games into his NBA career? I'd have to say, for someone so set on bashing him by any means necessary, you sure seem to regard him highly, holding him to such high standard.


I'm not the one acting like it's the worst trade in history...you guys are.

That means the bar is high...

Our job is to win a title...not break Luis into the NBA and watch him grow into a back up defensively challenged PF.


And FWIW...I like Elson better than Scola.


We already have a Scola...his name is Oberto, and he's better.



And BTW...Duncan > Yao...he kills his sidekicks numbers better than Yao. Duncan made a scoring champion Center into a defensive role player...Yao could never do that...will never do that.

[Ariel]

You mad?

It's stickied to the top of the forum. it's not like I bumped it from page 60.
No, I'm perfectly fine with it. Unless, of course, someone complains how the subject is conveniently brought up when it suits them (like after a good game by Luis), while they do the exact same thing when it suits them (like after a good game by Matt). Then it'd be kind of hypocritical, don't you think?

I don't set the bar hight when it comes to Scola...you guys do.


But since you asked...

Scola is 27 years old and has about maxed out his talent...he's got big minutes, his game is as polished as it's going to go...and his ceiling is low.
Scola is already close to his ceiling as far as his abilities go. But that has also been the case for most Euros who joined the NBA, and they have pretty much unanimously improved leaps and bounds. That is because you still need to adjust to the league, the rules, the teammates, the life style. Something you can't say for Elson or Bonner. You can't not be a homer and fail to realize that.

I'm not the one acting like it's the worst trade in history...you guys are.

That means the bar is hight...
Surely you don't mean "you guys" as if I ever said anything remotely close to that... right? Because I haven't. EVER. I do believe Luis is much better than you give him credit for, and that he would have been a worthy addition to the Spurs. And call me crazy, but I don't think he needs to prove he can carry the Rockets on his shoulders to a winning record to do that. It's you who acts like it.

Duncan made a scoring champion Center into a defensive role player...Yao could never do that...will never do that.
Yeah, that had nothing to do with aging and a screwed up back. Sure. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

No, I'm perfectly fine with it. Unless, of course, someone complains how the subject is brought up when it suits them, when they do the exact same thing. Then it'd be kind of hypocritical.Are you kidding me?

I was the only one who has believed in Scola this entire time. When all of you deserted this thread I was here saying what pussies you were and Scola would be ok.

I am easily the most consistent Scola supporter on this board.

[zaratustra007]

Scola.....come on argies, you are always thinking that you are the best. Scola is just another player, like Nociony, Ginobili, and the rest.

Closed.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Are you kidding me?

I was the only one who has believed in Scola this entire time. When all of you deserted this thread I was here saying what pussies you were and Scola would be ok.

I am easily the most consistent Scola supporter on this board.

:lmao

STFU,you know shit about Non American BB players NBA prospects.So go back to your Toros thread.

[Indazone]

This wasn't Bonner's best game...his best game was like 3 years ago when he had 21 points and 12 rebounds...as a 24 year old...


Scola will never do that...ever.


Amazing what playing for a crappy team can do for a players numbers...playing with the Spurs(and specifically Tim Duncan) has never been known to improve a bigman's numbers.


And how many threes does Scola have now?

and Bonner will never do that...ever again! :p:

[wildbill2u]

How long are we going to continue this thread--throughout his NBA career? With updates from every game's stats and arguements continuing on for years?

The trade is over. Done deal. Old news. Move On.

[Vinny Del Negro]

I'm pretty sure this thread is the property of Rudy Gay now. So it's really up to him whether or not to continue it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol :tu

[ChumpDumper]

STFU,you know shit about Non American BB players NBA prospects.I knew not to run and hide like a pussy whenever he played badly. You don't have the stones to be a Scola fan. I would question your manhood but that is completely unnecessary since you have proven you have none. You have proven to be a coward and the worst kind of fairweather fan when the chips were really down. Leave the fandom to folks like me who do it right, pussy.

[E20]

Chumpdumper -- a driving force in the Scola debate. You should run for President of Argentina or USA as well. You'd nail any question regarding this and just because of it you would be elected.

[ArgSpursFan.]

I knew not to run and hide like a pussy whenever he played badly. You don't have the stones to be a Scola fan. .



Anyways, Scola: 14 mins 0 pts 4 rbs 3 PF 1 TO.

Yeah,right I did hide.
STFU chumpD,and there's more evidence at the Scola thread @ the NBA Central Forum,that I never hide.
You are the one actually who never responses and Hides When Bonner has a bad game(most of the games actually)and whenever He(Bonner) gets decent Numbers, you come here with the tipical ¨told you all¨my boy was good.
you´re a complete joke,but that's a good thing though, at least you make me laugh.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah,right I did hide.Of course you don't lately now that I've shamed you into staying, pussy. It's too late now though -- you have been exposed, coward.
You are the one actually who never responses and Hides When Bonner has a bad gameIs this the official Bonner thread? No, you dumbass -- if you feel the need to start one, be our guest. Your weak attempts to change the subject are as pathetic as your bailing on Scola when it really mattered.

You have proven yourself to be a nobody and a nothing, you have no honor and no balls.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Of course you don't lately now that I've shamed you into staying, pussy. It's too late now though -- you have been exposed, coward.

Not true, I´ve been here taking everybodys shit whenever I post Scola´s stats or games comments.
And I take it like a man,someting that you should learn to do.


Is this the official Bonner thread? No, you dumbass -- if you feel the need to start one, be our guest. Your weak attempts to change the subject are as pathetic as your bailing on Scola when it really mattered.

Actually,the Bonner's subjet cameout whenever you were bashing Scola(most of the time)and I used it as a parameter to campare both players who get the same money and play the same spot.
Of course I know there's no possible way to campare Scola with Bonner.Coze Scola>>>>Bonner.


You have proven yourself to be a nobody and a nothing, you have no honor and no balls.

Actually I've proven that you know shit about International Basketball players,and whenever you get exposed like here¨in the Scola thread¨you just act like a complete joke,instead of recognizing that you were wrong and got Owned.

[ChumpDumper]

Not trueOf course it is. In the darkest days of Scola's NBA career, my posts are there; you are nowhere to be seen. You can't say now that you were there the whole time because you weren't.
Actually,the Bonner's subjet cameout whenever you were bashing ScolaActually, it came out whenever you brought him up in an attempt to change the subject. You simply can't stay on point because you are too much of a coward to face reality.
Actually I've proven that you know shit about International Basketball playersActually, Scola is playing pretty much the way I expected. He is playing much worse than you expected, which made you run and hide like a pussy until you were called out by me. Then once you were shamed into staying in this thread by me (for the opportunity to salvage some of your manhood, you're welcome BTW), all you can do is make excuses and blame Scola's coach and teammates for his poor performances. I would say you have owned yourself by acting like a little girl, but little girls have much more resolve than your weak ass.

[ArgSpursFan.]

You´re so full of it Chump.
There´s no need to post all those lies(BS in my dictionary), people here knows that you were the president of the Scola Haters commitie.
But that's cool though you´re still welcome to the Scola bandwagon,It´s never too late to make up your mind when wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

You´re so full of it Chump.
There´s no need to post of those lies, people here knows that you were the president of the Scola Haters commitie.No, I am president of the Scola Overrater Haters Organization.
But that's cool though you´re still welcome to the Scola bandwagon,It´s never too late to make up your mind when wrong.I never got off it and I have not been wrong about how he would play in the NBA.

You did and you have.

[ArgSpursFan.]

right,predicting Scola as a worst Rebounder and Defender as Bonner/Elson was just another one of your¨Jokes¨right?
I also recall you saying that Scola´s game would most likely not translate well to the NBA, too slow,too short,too weak on the boards and on D.
I get it now,you´re a Genius!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

right,predicting Scola as a worst Rebounder and Defender as Bonner/Elson was just another one of your¨Jokes¨right?I'm sure you can link that.
I also recall you saying that Scola´s game would most likely not translate well to the NBA, too slow,too short,too weak on the boards and on D.Actually I compared his upside to a pretty good NBA player who had a long career and put up big numbers in certain situations. So far that's been exactly the case with Scola.

Again, I don't hate Scola. I hate lying, necrophiliac cowards like you who have the gall to show up on these boards again after having a colossal meltdown that earned the mother of all bannings.

[ArgSpursFan.]

necrophiliac cowards like you who have the gall to show up on these boards again after having a colossal meltdown that earned the mother of all bannings.
you still mad at me for that?????
I´m glad to hear that.
BTW,the feeling is mutual.

[ArgSpursFan.]

.Actually I compared his upside to a pretty good NBA player

.
so the predictions from last season before this one started don´t count?
Coze I´ve seen some stupid posts of yours comparing Scola with a bunch of Scrubs who ended up playing in Europe and never made it in the NBA.
You want a link to that????

[ChumpDumper]

Not surprisingly, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why I did that. I was bringing them up in order to get a read on how Scola might play in the NBA. You, being the stupid, racist, necrophiliac dumbass you are simply took it as a personal insult for reasons still unknown and unfathomable to anyone on this board and started talking in derogative terms about black people and having sex with the dead relatives of longtime members of this board. In the meantime, I took all the useful information given to me people who actually knew about European basketball and all these players -- i.e., not you -- and came up with a pretty reasonable and so far accurate assessment of Scola's NBA potential.

I can't help that I turned out to be right, just like you can't help being a racist idiot.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Not surprisingly, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why I did that. I was bringing them up in order to get a read on how Scola might play in the NBA. You, being the stupid, racist, necrophiliac dumbass you are simply took it as a personal insult for reasons still unknown and unfathomable to anyone on this board and started talking in derogative terms about black people and having sex with the dead relatives of longtime members of this board. In the meantime, I took all the useful information given to me people who actually knew about European basketball and all these players -- i.e., not you -- and came up with a pretty reasonable and so far accurate assessment of Scola's NBA potential.

I can't help that I turned out to be right, just like you can't help being a racist idiot.

Now,you´re trying to make people feel sorry for you.
I see that You never change your acting tactics.
Look dumbass if you don´t wanna feel bad about what I think and my personal opinions it can be real easy
Just stay the fuck away from me.
It´ll be a good thing though,You will stop looking stupid that way.

[ChumpDumper]

Now,you´re trying to make people feel sorry for you.:lol If you are ashamed of the things that got you banned, you shouldn't have done them in the first place.
Look dumbass if you don´t wanna feel bad about what I think and my personal opinions it can be real easyI feel great. Being right does that for me.
Just stay the fuck away from me.You mad, tough guy?

[ArgSpursFan.]

:lol If you are ashamed of the things that got you banned, you shouldn't have done them in the first place.
Who said I was??


I feel great. Being right does that for me.You mad, tough guy?
you´re not right,not here and basically on most of your BB thoughts and opinions.
But if you keep reading me hopefully you´ll get there some day.

[ArgSpursFan.]

BTW,I´m not mad.
You´re a Kid.Can´t be mad at you.

[ChumpDumper]

Who said I was??You did by whining when I reminded everyone.



you´re not right,not here and basically on most of your BB thoughts and opinions.
But if you keep reading me hopefully you´ll get there some day.But you just told me to stay the fuck away from you.

Damn, you are too much of a coward to stick with a position for more than one post.
BTW,I´m not mad.You can't claim that after that kind of meltdown.

[ArgSpursFan.]

You did by whining when I reminded everyone.
I wasn´t whining,I was telling you that if you don't wanna keep getting exposed just stay away from me.



But you just told me to stay the fuck away from you.

Damn, you are too much of a coward to stick with a position for more than one post.

Yes,stay away,Meaning:shut the fuck up.
But still you´re welcome to read my posts and learn something,kid.

[ChumpDumper]

I wasn´t whining,I was telling you that if you don't wanna keep getting exposed just stay away from me.Exposed as being right? Why would I have a problem with that?
Yes,stay away,Meaning:shut the fuck up.
But still you´re welcome to read my posts and learn something,kid.I learned that you are a racist and routinely overrate players for no other reason than their being born in the same country as you.

[porscha]

why is it that a houston rocket's player is still on our forum's top thread ?

[ArgSpursFan.]

Exposed as being right? Why would I have a problem with that?I learned that you are a racist and routinely overrate players for no other reason than their being born in the same country as you.

:lmao you are the one who overrates.
you´re on the Bonner´s and Elson´s bandwagon and now don´t know who to jump off it.
I always stand to what I say.I never liked Elson nor Bonner,and always said that they suck mayor ass even if they can manage to have a decent game once a year.
Sorry Chump but you still have a long way to go.

[ArgSpursFan.]

why is it that a houston rocket's player is still on our forum's top thread ?

Coze time will tell that this trade will go down as one of the worst Dumbests trade of the Spurs actual FO.
The mistake is being already made,that´s true.
But what makes it worst is that they keep bringing Scrubs to play Backup PF and Center.

[ChumpDumper]

you´re on the Bonner´s and Elson´s bandwagon and now don´t know who to jump off it.Why? They are fine players for what they are paid. So is Scola. It simply wasn't a Shakespearian tragedy that we have the former players rather than the latter.

The agenda of many of the Argentinians on this board is transparent and after these many years, tiresome. Please grow up and attach your self worth to something other than your nation's basketball players. It's ridiculous.

[ArgSpursFan.]

.
Please grow up and attach your self worth to something other than your nation's basketball players. It's ridiculous.

ok,so now that I say splitter can be an upgrade for the scrubs(fine players accordin to you)that we have in the frontline right now, will that make me Brazilian???? :lmao
I guess I´ll take a kind of multinational type of citinzenship now.
the more you talk, the more stupid you make yourself look like.

[ChumpDumper]

ok,so now that I say splitter can be an upgrade for the scrubs(fine players accordin to you)that we have in the frontline right now, will that make me Brazilian???? :lmao
I guess I´ll take a kind of multinational type of citinzenship now.
the more you talk, the more stupid you make yourself look like.Your self-worth is not attached to Splitter, and once the Argentinians are gone from the team you won't be here anymore, taruky.

[TOP-CHERRY]

the more you talk, the more stupid you make yourself look like.
No, I think it's the other way around.

[ArgSpursFan.]

No, I think it's the other way around.

It really don´t matter what you think.
there´s plenty of Dumbs in this world anyways,you´re not alone.
Keep moving pleaseeee.NEXT------>

[ArgSpursFan.]

Your self-worth is not attached to Splitter, and once the Argentinians are gone from the team you won't be here anymore, taruky.

well,IF you wasn't from the SA area you probably eather

See?we all have our excuses to be spurs fans.
Mine was to have Argies in the team,yours to be from the Area. Think harder Einstein
So,according to your criteria,if you happen to move from the SA area you wont eather be a Spur fan.that´s smart.

[ChumpDumper]

So,according to your criteria,if you happen to move from the SA area you wont eather be a Spur fan.that´s smart.Your failure to draw a decent analogy is typical.

Your spurfandom is dependent upon the nationality of a couple of the players. Mine is not. No players remain from the 1987 Spurs team, yet I remain. When the Argentinians are gone from the Spurs, you will be gone from here, taruky.

[TOP-CHERRY]

It really don´t matter what you think.
there´s plenty of Dumbs in this world anyways,you´re not alone.
Keep moving pleaseeee.NEXT------>
There's no "Dumbs", but plenty of delusional people. You keep arguing just to get the last word in, and in the process, your argument keeps getting weaker.

[jay014]

well,IF you wasn't from the SA area you probably eather

See?we all have our excuses to be spurs fans.
Mine was to have Argies in the team,yours to be from the Area. Think harder Einstein
So,according to your criteria,if you happen to move from the SA area you wont eather be a Spur fan.that´s smart.
There's no excuses, either your a Spurs fan or your not. Watch a Spurs game and look in the stands you don't have to live here to be a fan or just because you move doesn't mean you jump off the bandwagon. Your only on because of Manu and Oberto it doesn't make you Spurs fan.You should change your user name to ARGNBAFAN that way you can root for the Spurs,Rockets,Bulls,Bobcats and Raptors.The Scola trade doesn't come close to one of the worst if not the worst Gervin for Greenwood trade to the Bulls. Gervin averaged 16 pts for them and Scola is averaging what 7pts.You know who Gervin is? Just in case you don't dumbass http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/6/60/Gervin1.jpg

[urunobili]

wow... this is getting a lil bit out of control... y'all should remember that David Robinson IS big enough to make people become Spurs fans... doesn't matter if afterwards they hired some argies or not....

[whottt]

wow...sure is quiet up in this bitch.

[ArgSpursFan.]

yeah,let´s go check at the Church of Elson´s thread!!!

oh, never mind.

[whottt]

Elson: One championship ring
Scola: None

[ArgSpursFan.]

Elson: One championship ring


Beno has actually 2 rings :lmao
WTF??????????

[whottt]

And Beno is playing better than Scola too...

[whottt]

In terms of having a big stupid mouth that the Spurs don't need...

Beno = Scola

[ArgSpursFan.]

but not Elson, that´s the point here.

[whottt]

In terms of players that will never win an NBA championsship from this point...


Beno also = Scola

[ArgSpursFan.]

In terms of having a big stupid mouth that the Spurs don't need...

Beno = Scola

stupid Mouth??
STFU!

[whottt]

Furthermore...

Spurs = off to best start of Duncan era
Scola = off to shitty start struggling to make it off the bench...on qa shitty team, being coached by a shitty coach, according to Scolasuckers anyway.


Who needed who again? And who likely fucked up the most?


Scola = PWNT


And soon...

Splitter > Scola


Someone please tell Luis that over-rated and stupid is no way to go through life...

[whottt]

The truly funny thing about it is...

Scola's D is so shitty even Adelman won't put him in the game...that says something...it's not like Adelman demands defensive excellence from his players. Pop does though...

[ArgSpursFan.]

Furthermore...

Spurs = off to best start of Duncan era
...

you just need to thank a guy called Manu Ginobili for that.
And that has nothing to do with Scola,besides ,do you think the Rockets could be better with Elson tham with Scola????? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I noticed Carl Landry is getting some burn now.

[whottt]

I think you place too much importance on rudimentary stats...the day stop doing that is the day you stop getting your ass handed to you in these arguments...Shareef.

[ArgSpursFan.]

He(landry) played a great game vs. the Raptors, and they lost.
So did Scola vs. the Spurs, and they lost as well.
Like I said ,Scola is just a great role player,but if the Rockets stars T-mac and Yao keep on choking in 4rd quarters The Rockets might not even make it to the playoffs.

[Bruno]

Scola has had a hard time against Toronto.
In the first half, he was quite good. He played well within Adelman's offense with a couple of nice assists. He did too a nice move on Bosh.
The second half was a disaster for him. Houston's team offense was bad and Scola was non-existent on the offensive end. He was owned by Bosh on the defensive end and Adelman decided to choose Landry over him because of that.
He didn't do a good job on the board during this game.

[Indazone]

Landry grabbed 7 rebounds. He's very athletic. Has like a 41 inch vertical leap. Rookie however. But I remember the finals when he went up against Noah and Horford in the Purdue vs Florida game and he held his own pretty well.

[jay014]

He(landry) played a great game vs. the Raptors, and they lost.
So did Scola vs. the Spurs, and they lost as well.
Like I said ,Scola is just a great role player,but if the Rockets stars T-mac and Yao keep on choking in 4rd quarters The Rockets might not even make it to the playoffs.
If he was such a great role player he would be putting up good numbers consistently not just every other other night, There suppose to be on top of the league with the addition of Scola(2008 roty :blah ),and Francis.All Scola is just a good role player just like Oberto.btw Bonner>Scola rather have a power forward that can knock down a 3 and spread the D than somebody who's gonna clog a lane to penetrating guard. Scola>Elson but that's alright it his final year.

[CubanMustGo]

In today's 100-88 loss at Philly

L. Scola 21 mins 1-3 FG 2-2 FT 4 reb 1 ast 2 stl 3 pf -> 4 pts

[Obstructed_View]

besides ,do you think the Rockets could be better with Elson tham with Scola????? :lmao
Who cares? The Spurs are.

[whottt]

PWNT

[mystargtr34]

:lol

[whottt]

Scola fans are completely worthless...like Scola.


This thread should now be deleted and the first guy who bitches about Scola next time has a good game should be permanently banned from the forum.

[ShoogarBear]

Scola fans are completely worthless...like Scola.


This thread should now be deleted and the first guy who bitches about Scola next time has a good game should be permanently banned from the forum.Rockets won tonight.

PWNT!!
PWNT!!!
PWNT!!!!

[CubanMustGo]

And in that win:

L. Scola 10 mins 0-1 FG 0-0 FT 0 reb 1 ast 0 stl 3 pf 1 to 0 blk -> 0 pts
and a team-worst +/- of -14

[ShoogarBear]

And in that win:

L. Scola 10 mins 0-1 FG 0-0 FT 0 reb 1 ast 0 stl 3 pf 1 to 0 blk -> 0 pts
and a team-worst +/- of -14Shhhhh. Until you brought that up, whottt was rendered speechless to rebut.

[ShoogarBear]

-14 in 10 minutes is hella hard to do, BTW.

[SpursIndonesia]

Tonite game against the Mavs:

L. Scola 12:03 1-4 FGs, 0-0 3FGs, 1-2 FTs, -1 +/-, 1 oRebs, 1 Rebs, 1 Asts, 2 TOs, 1 Stls, 3 PFs, 3 Pts

Oberto >>>>>>> Scola :smokin

[anakha]

Awful quiet in here the past few days... :devil

[SpursIndonesia]

*crickets******crickets***

:lol

[jay014]

http://chtrust.com/quiet.jpg

[remingtonbo2001]

Guess Scola is a 2nd RATE Oberto!

[whottt]

6 days without a Pro Scola poster...


You guys disappeared worse than Scola in the 4th quarter of a Euroleague Finals game...


Pathetic...biggest mass wuss out ever.

[Indazone]

Not much to talk about when the entire Rockets squad plays like crap and then you just lump Scola in with the rest of them. Every single one of the players on the Rockets not named Yao or T-Mac are stinking up the place.

[Indazone]

Oh well, with a healthy T-Mac, we still can bang with the Spurs! LOL

[SAGambler]

Scola fans are completely worthless...like Scola.


This thread should now be deleted and the first guy who bitches about Scola next time has a good game should be permanently banned from the forum.

But....but....just wait til next year, when he leads them to the Championship...

Why is this thread still on here as "important"? Time to put it to bed. Forget Scola ever existed, and that so many fans were up in arms when he was sent to Houston.

[anakha]

Not much to talk about when the entire Rockets squad plays like crap and then you just lump Scola in with the rest of them. Every single one of the players on the Rockets not named Yao or T-Mac are stinking up the place.

First, so you're saying the whole Houston team aside from Yao or McGrady stinks right now, yet complain that Scola's being 'lumped in' with the rest of them? :dizzy

And second, at least you actually showed up since his streak of off games started, unlike some other nimrods who've showed up verbally fellating Scola in this thread.

[Indazone]

Well, I call it like I sees it. Right now the entire Rockets squad sucks and they aren't playing good Team Ball. I watched Franchise try to do an old move and he drove the ball into the heart of the defense. He went up and tried to dunk it and he got hacked and lost the ball. Old Stevie Franchise would have gotten so much lift he would have just dunked that ball on the head of his defender.

[m33p0]

i'll have to aim the majority of the fault at mcgrady. he dominates the ball too much leaving the rest of the team unbalanced and struggling to find any rhythms in their own games.

[m33p0]

But....but....just wait til next year, when he leads them to the Championship...

Why is this thread still on here as "important"? Time to put it to bed. Forget Scola ever existed, and that so many fans were up in arms when he was sent to Houston.

:tu

maybe we should make a James White thread just in case. :lol

[Indazone]

Scola will come around and yes you are right. T-Mac does dominate the ball too much and other teams just double team T-Mac and Yao. But I also blame this on Adleman. He just needs to free up his guards and Scola to play. Use T-Mac and Yao as decoys if they are getting doubled teamed.

[Holt's Cat]

12-13 on December 19th. So much for Stat Boy.

[ArgSpursFan.]

13 mins 6 pts 6 rbs 2 asts 3 PFs vs the Magics on Dec 19th.

[mystargtr34]

how did he do today

[Dre_7]

So far he has had a few decent offensive games and a BUNCH of shitty ones. Meanwhile his D is horrid. He is nothin special. No reason to cry over losing this guy. Btw, where the hell has SpursDynasty21 been?? :lol

[anakha]

Btw, where the hell has SpursDynasty21 been?? :lol

Hiding in the bushes, waiting for the next double-digit game by Scola, so he can come back in here and scream "I told you so!!!" to an empty room. :lol

[SpurYank]

Re this thread: Is time standing still there in San Antonio?

[ArgSpursFan.]

I've been seeing some Rockets games,and the thing is that in 18 mpg while T-mac on the floor the guy doesn't have many touches in order to get himself going.+ the rockets lack of a true PG in order to creat something for the rest of the players.
Still he had managed to stay in the same rate of rebounds.
5 boards in 18 mins vs the Nuggets.

[ChumpDumper]

TMac didn't play last night. Alston and Head had 16 assists between them.

[ArgSpursFan.]

still a Houston loss.
Until those guys learn to play as a team,and learn a D system the Rockets will fail to get to the playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

They held Denver to 37% shooting and they rank 6th in opponents' FG%. Defense is not their problem.

[Indazone]

Scola needs to stay out of foul trouble. That's what's hurting him. His offensive play is very good and his defensive rotations are getting better.

[Obstructed_View]

I've been seeing some Rockets games.
Really? :)

[ArgSpursFan.]

Really? :)

Really.

[jay014]

Scola sucks!

[kolko]

Good game for Scola tonight: 14 points and 11 rebounds in 26 minutes.

[Dre_7]

Ok SpursDynasty21, Scola had 14 and 11, you can come out now.

[jay014]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/99/350px-Comeouttoplay.JPGScolanutlovers! Come out to play!

[Obstructed_View]

Really.
All evidence to the contrary.

[[email protected]]

12-13 on December 19th. So much for Stat Boy.
Now the rockets are 13-13.. :santahat

[ArgSpursFan.]

Good game by Scola, He played PF and Center at times,
Luis numbers: 14 pts 11 boards(7 off) 2 asists and 3 PFs in 24 mins.
Looks like when T-mac is willing to share the ball more,the Rockets are a more balanced team in the offense.

[Obstructed_View]

Now if only he'd retire before his next game.

[jay014]

Good game by Scola, He played PF and Center at times,
Luis numbers: 14 pts 11 boards(7 off) 2 asists and 3 PFs in 24 mins.
Looks like when T-mac is willing to share the ball more,the Rockets are a more balanced team in the offense.
Damn, a PF played PF and Center at times big fucking deal. You know Duncan he plays power forward and center at times, Matt Bonner even started at Center.looks like you and candyass76 and others are sharing Scolas' nuts.

[WalterBenitez]

L. Scola
Points: 18
Reb: 9
Ast: 0
Stl: 0
Blk: 0

Against Pistons with Yao an TMAC out

[ChumpDumper]

Alright, now they can get rid of both Yao and McGrady!

[Obstructed_View]

L. Scola
Points: 18
Reb: 9
Ast: 0
Stl: 0
Blk: 0

Against Pistons with Yao an TMAC out
Kick ass. How much did they win by?

[anakha]

What? Still no Spurs Dynasty 21 appearance? I'm in shock...

[whottt]

It's lame that the Scola fans can't seem to find the time to show up for the 2 weeks Scola sucked but the second he has a good game...here they are.


So far he's had more bad games than good ones...and even his good ones have been tainted by a failure to win. What is it...one win in a game he's played well in? Or is it now 2?



New to the NBA excuse doesn't hold water...see, we're competing for a championship, this season...not next season. We've got bigger priorities than developing future back up PFs.



And new to the NBA also doesn't hold water in several other categories...there are a lot of rookies with far less polished games, with far less experience, and who are far younger, having a bigger impact, on both worse, and better teams this season.


In conclusions....it's not that big of a deal we traded him..we have several players that can bring what he brings to the team, and sometimes more than what is needed.

And I know you guys are going to say well...he's better than Elson, well Elson is on this team because he's got athleticism that enables him to do a variety of things that can impact a game in ways that Scola can't...plus he's familiar with the system.


If we want a guy to impact a game the way Scola does...we already have one, his name is Oberto, and he's familiar with the system.



Scola's rebounding has been better than advertised, and IMO, he looks like he has NBA role playing potential, and sure it would have been cool to have key components of the Argie National team added to the Spurs, with Manu here to bring out their best...but I'd have valued what Nocioni has to offer much more...and Scola's not the key player you guys claimed he was, he is taking time to adjust to the NBA, and his skill set was not a huge need for this team. Add to that the fact that there, WAS DEFINITELY, bad blood between Scola and the Spurs(funny that Oberto and Manu don't have that same issues), and this trade is not the huge ordeal the Scola fans painted it to be.


In summary...Scola's better than I thought he was as an NBA talent, possibly, and he's not as good as you guys thought he was...as an NBA talent. Ergo...this is Giricek part 2. And I'd rather have Oberto...and you guys can't pullt he Bonner card with the way he's played lately either...Elson has a different skill set than all 3...he's more inconsistent than those guys...but he's the athlete they aren't...and that's where his value lies.

[Bruno]

18 is 9 could be impressive but it's way less impressive when you realize that eh scored 12 points and grab 6 rebounds during the last quarter that was garbage time.
I've watched the first 3 quarters and Scola was average at best. His defense, especially the P&R defense, was bad. His rebounding wasn't good too. On the offensive end, he finished well around the basket but didn't hit his midrange jumper.

[ArgSpursFan.]

18 is 9 could be impressive but it's way less impressive when you realize that eh scored 12 points and grab 6 rebounds during the last quarter that was garbage time.
I've watched the first 3 quarters and Scola was average at best. His defense, especially the P&R defense, was bad. His rebounding wasn't good too. On the offensive end, he finished well around the basket but didn't hit his midrange jumper.

I saw the game too,and He didn't play as poorly as you pretend to show here. Yes He scored in the 4 rd quarter some of his 18 pts(8/11 FG)and grabed some of his 9 boards too.
But the guy played solid team ball,setting screems for his teammates and always looking for the right spot to get an easy basket.
But yes,He needs a litle more time to get used to the Difensive rotations.
So far,He's doing just like all the Argies did in their roockie seasons. Not bad considering that Manu ,Chapu and Fabri are key players in their teams right now.

[Bruno]

I saw the game too,and He didn't play as poorly as you pretend to show here.

I've never that he has played poorly. I've said that he was average at best. Scola did some good things in this game.



Yes He scored in the 4 rd quarter some of his 18 pts(8/11 FG)and grabed some of his 9 boards too.

After looking at the stats :
Scola in the first 3 quarters : 6 points and 2 rebounds in 12.42 min.
Scola in the last quarter : 12 points and 7 rebounds in 12min.
And the last quarter was garbage time.



But the guy played solid team ball,setting screems for his teammates and always looking for the right spot to get an easy basket.
But yes,He needs a litle more time to get used to the Difensive rotations.

First, a guy who plays bad Defense doesn't played solid team ball.
Second, I doubt that you have watched the game. Scola has set very few screens in this game and the fact that he was bad on the defensive end has nothing to do with defensive rotations. Scola was just horrible at defending the P&R because he let his man wide open or didn't roll with him to the basket.



So far,He's doing just like all the Argies did in their roockie seasons. Not bad considering that Manu ,Chapu and Fabri are key players in their teams right now.

What a strange reasoning. You are basically saying that Scola not being good now means that he will be good later.

Scola is a very average rookie for the moment. It's too soon to give up on him and put him in the bust category but he hasn't shown enough things to come at the conclusion that Spurs have made a mistake by trading him.
At the question "Will Scola be a good nba player ?", the only answer that make sense is : maybe. If your answer is Yes or No to this question, you are either a hater or a homer.

[WalterBenitez]

Kick ass. How much did they win by?

Apparently nobody take care that seriously :reading

[ArgSpursFan.]

Scola is a very average rookie for the moment. It's too soon to give up on him and put him in the bust category but he hasn't shown enough things to come at the conclusion that Spurs have made a mistake by trading him.
At the question "Will Scola be a good nba player ?", the only answer that make sense is : maybe. If your answer is Yes or No to this question, you are either a hater or a homer.

Nobody is giving up on Scola,all the opposite actually, going by his roockie numbers He's actually doing better tham most the Argies did in their Roockie seasons.
And also taking in consideration that Adleman is not giving him consistently the same amounts of minutes,coze He's playing 15/18 mins and 25/28 when Yao gets in foul troubles.
Bottom line is:when given minutes and touches Scola has shown He can be a decent low post option and his rebounding is even better tham it used to be in Eurolegue.

[ducks]

Nobody is giving up on Scola,all the opposite actually, going by his roockie numbers He's actually doing better tham most the Argies did in their Roockie seasons.
And also taking in consideration that Adleman is not giving him consistently the same amounts of minutes,coze He's playing 15/18 mins and 25/28 when Yao gets in foul troubles.
Bottom line is:when given minutes and touches Scola has shown He can be a decent low post option and his rebounding is even better tham it used to be in Eurolegue.
dude is older then most of his arge fellow players
playing 15-18 minutes is a decent amount of time
it is not like he is only getting 5 minutes a night and can not find his grove

[ArgSpursFan.]

dude is older then most of his arge fellow players
playing 15-18 minutes is a decent amount of time
it is not like he is only getting 5 minutes a night and can not find his grove

Actually Oberto was Older tham him(Scola) when He got to the NBA.

[Bruno]

Nobody is giving up on Scola,all the opposite actually, going by his roockie numbers
Haters give up on him and call him a scrub after one bad game. It's the same thing with homers who call him a great player after one good game.



He's actually doing better tham most the Argies did in their Roockie seasons.
And also taking in consideration that Adleman is not giving him consistently the same amounts of minutes,coze He's playing 15/18 mins and 25/28 when Yao gets in foul troubles.

Scola get very consistent playing time for a rookie. He has the luck to be on a team with a very thin frontcourt.



Bottom line is:when given minutes and touches Scola has shown He can be a decent low post option and his rebounding is even better tham it used to be in Eurolegue.

In all the games I've seen, Scola wasn't a low post threat at all. Even when Yao is out, Scola didn't play a lot in the low post. And Scola is an average nba rebounder like Oberto or Elson.

[ArgSpursFan.]

In all the games I've seen, Scola wasn't a low post threat at all. Even when Yao is out, Scola didn't play a lot in the low post. And Scola is an average nba rebounder like Oberto or Elson.

He's been rebounding at a higher rate tham what he used to in the Eurolegue. The thing is that He's playing a litle bit farther from the paint and the basket in Houston tham in Tau,that's why He is using his jumper more tham his low post moves.
Now,when Yao gets in foul troubles or is getting some rest and Luis plays the Center,or just a bit closer to the basket,he's been able to grab some offensive boards(like vs the Bulls) and some low post pts.

[Bruno]

He's been rebounding at a higher rate tham what he used to in the Eurolegue.

Scola is rebounding slightly more in nba than in Euroleague. The increase is the same than for Oberto between the nba and the Euroleague/acb. Scola is, so far, an average nba rebounder by grabbing 1 rebounds per 4 min.



The thing is that He's playing a litle bit farther from the paint and the basket in Houston tham in Tau,that's why He is using his jumper more tham his low post moves.
Now,when Yao gets in foul troubles or is getting some rest and Luis plays the Center,or just a bit closer to the basket,he's been able to grab some offensive boards(like vs the Bulls) and some low post pts.

Even when Yao was out, I haven't seen Scola doing a lot of post move. Scola plays way less in the post than in Europe even when he plays center. Maybe it's because Adelman doesn't want to see him the post or maybe it's because he struggles to score in the post against long and athletic nba players.
And I'm not sure that playing Scola or Hayes at center is a good thing for Rockets because it weakens their interior defense.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Adelman's system have failed so far,so I wouldn't blame Scola for not playing near the Basket in order to use some low post moves.
I'll give Scola some credit on that.
As far as rebounding goes, The farther you play from the basket the less chances you get to grab a rebound.
If this Houston team finds it identity with Adelman's system they might be able to get to the playoffs,but if they keep playing like they are right now, They'll fail.
They need a PG,and It wouldn't surprise me if they make an offer for Beno.

[Bruno]

As far as rebounding goes, The farther you play from the basket the less chances you get to grab a rebound.


It's true on the offensive end but on the defensive end, you play where your opponent is.
And Scola is a better offensive rebounder than defensive rebounder. He is 48th in the nba for offensive rebounds and 99th for defensive rebounds.
Scola being an average rebounder is mainly because it's what he is.

And Scola being an average rebounder isn't the end of the world. Rebounding isn't his main strength and it's still a very good thing for him not to be a bad rebounder the nba level.

[ArgSpursFan.]

And Scola being an average rebounder isn't the end of the world. Rebounding isn't his main strength and it's still a very good thing for him not to be a bad rebounder the nba level.

that's true,but I'd love him to put up 15/20 lbs. in order to set possitions better and don't get pussed away by other NBA bigs when trying to get a board.
I think that's something the Rockets will have to work on for next season,in order to get him a litle heavier and stronger.
Otherwise he'll only rely in his low post moves and mid range jumpers.
If he can manage to be at 7/8 rpg in 30 mpg next season, it will be a huge improvement for him.

[theMUHMEshow]

L. Scola
Points: 18
Reb: 9
Ast: 0
Stl: 0
Blk: 0

Against Pistons with Yao an TMAC out

I think Sheed hates Scola more than anyone else in the league. He was doggin on his ass all game. Screaming at him and laughing at him all game... It was quite funny...

[Dex]

Why is this thread still up here? :lol

[wildbill2u]

Liviing in Houston, I watch the Rockets off and on. In every game I spot the same thing.

1.Scola runs his ass off down the floor with some others on a fast break.
2. He gets into an open spot, sometimes within the box
3. The other Rockets freeze him out and pass to another player, sometimes one who is covered and/or on the perimeter.

Maybe it's because he's a rookie, but If I was Scola, I'd be pissed. Not because of the stats but because that isn't good basketball. You reward a guy for running the floor and getting open.

I'm not a big Scola booster or a hater. We did what the FO thought we needed to do and what's done is done, but the Rockets aren't using him to the maximum either.

[diego]

At the question "Will Scola be a good nba player ?", the only answer that make sense is : maybe. If your answer is Yes or No to this question, you are either a hater or a homer.

the most sensible thing posted in this entire thread, congratulations!

[Obstructed_View]

Liviing in Houston, I watch the Rockets off and on. In every game I spot the same thing.

1.Scola runs his ass off down the floor with some others on a fast break.
2. He gets into an open spot, sometimes within the box
3. The other Rockets freeze him out and pass to another player, sometimes one who is covered and/or on the perimeter.

Maybe it's because he's a rookie, but If I was Scola, I'd be pissed. Not because of the stats but because that isn't good basketball. You reward a guy for running the floor and getting open.
The Rockets players never like passing to white guys. That's why Yao was so tired during the first couple of years of his career. He'd fight for 20 seconds getting post position and then fight for rebounding position after Francis or Mobley jacked up a shot.

[Obstructed_View]

Apparently nobody take care that seriously :reading
It didn't really require a response, since they got their asses kicked.

[penis]

penis

[jay014]

http://US.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-66948174059179_1958_2628850

[whottt]

Cool...and the Rockets even moved to 1 game under 500.

Awesome :tu

[WalterBenitez]

22 pts (11-17)
5 rbs
2 stl
1 ast

in 29 minutes against MEM

[ArgSpursFan.]

Scola, Brooks step up. Another shrewd move by Ed Wade.
Aaron Brooks and Luis Scola give the Rockets a different look, different energy, different everything. I know, I know. This was one victory against a bad team. But it was a game that reminded you that this team has depth and options it's still figuring out.

Brooks is a perfect fit for Rick Adelman's offense. He wants to push the ball and create mismatches. Rafer Alston is very good at this kind of thing, too, but isn't nearly the shooter Brooks is.

We all thought Yao Ming would be the guy that was hardest for Adelman to fit into his offense. Turns out, it's Tracy McGrady. He seems reluctant to play fast, preferring a half-court game.

With McGrady out, the Rockets played at a quicker pace. Brooks, looking more comfortable by the game, had 10 points, 7 assists and 1 turnover in 21 minutes. Scola was outstanding as well, scoring 22 points in 29 minutes. Shane Battier and Yao both had nice games.

Adelman was happy to finally have some practice time with his team, and everything looked more organized. But it was Brooks and Scola that stood out.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Scola, Yao lead charge in Rockets' rout of Grizzlies


MEMPHIS, TENN. — Look closely and you can tell the difference between Luis Scola and Tracy McGrady.

Scola is taller (a little) and has more hair (a lot).

But Scola did demonstrate Friday night just what the short-handed Rockets needed in McGrady's absence.

Scola's array of pump fakes and scoops brought more than his rookie-season high of 22 points. He epitomized the Rockets' sudden balance of scoring as they rolled to a 103-83 rout of the Memphis Grizzlies before 15,660 at the FedEx Forum.

"Obviously, we need confidence to play without McGrady," said Yao Ming, who had 22 points, 12 rebounds and five blocked shots. "I know we struggle without McGrady. But you have to know he is human. He will be hurt sometimes. We have to learn to play without him."

The Rockets had won just two of their previous 14 games — and none of their last eight — without McGrady over the past two seasons.

In McGrady's four seasons with the Rockets, they had been 11-42 when playing without him.

But with McGrady out Friday and tonight against the Toronto Raptors and expecting to miss at least one more game, Yao said the Rockets did not have time to wait for his return.

"We are fighting for our season," Yao said. "We had a four-day break for Christmas. Almost 30 games are gone. I think if we want to do something, now is the time. I said after last game, we always say it's time, it's time, it's time. Tonight, we did it."

The Rockets claimed to have been making progress, particularly offensively, getting season-high scoring nights in consecutive games before Sunday's dud in Detroit.

Friday, when the Grizzlies shifted much of what resembled defense to surround Yao, the Rockets around him pounced.

Bonzi Wells and Shane Battier, who matched his season high with 18 points, began the game attacking the paint. When Scola began scoring, too, the Rockets rolled up 52 points in the paint. (Their season high, 58, was in the other win over Memphis.)

"We had a lot of contributions from a lot of guys," Rockets coach Rick Adelman said. "That's what we talked about before the game. Luis came in and had an unbelievable game. We did a great job when they were trying to front (Yao) and take it away from him. We attacked the other side. We got really good opportunities for people.

"It's the growth of our team. The more guys we get involved and the more they mature and get a sense of what they can do, it's going to help us in the long run. We've really been making strides in five of the last six games. That's what we've got to keep doing."

[remingtonbo2001]

And....

Fabi can contribute just as many points with half as many pump fakes.

I can't believe people are still licking the sweat off this guys balls.

[ChumpDumper]

Too late, FairWeatherScolaFan. You've already shown your true colors.

[kuato]

And....

Fabi can contribute just as many points with half as many pump fakes.

I can't believe people are still licking the sweat off this guys balls. YOu may not like Scola play, but he is a good player, better than Oberto at the offensive.

[ChumpDumper]

So what?

[jay014]

18pts 3rebs 1ast 2 st in 23min +15 ....... nevermind its Bonners numbers somebody that actually plays for the Spurs.

[ArgSpursFan.]

18pts 3rebs 1ast 2 st in 23min +15 ....... nevermind its Bonners numbers somebody that actually plays for the Spurs.

Scola>Bonner
ask Sequspur.

[ChumpDumper]

So what?

[ArgSpursFan.]

So what?

Great,you finally ran out of Pointless arguments in this thread.
Keep it up!





PS: So what now?

[ChumpDumper]

You couldn't answer the question.

Great, you finally ran out of reasons to justify the existence of this thread.

[kuato]

You couldn't answer the question.

Great, you finally ran out of reasons to justify the existence of this thread.
So what about ... what ?, the original Scola Thread died many posts ago. What are we discussing here ? ... if Scola can play ? ... well he can, that responds your question ?. Happy new year :p:

[ChumpDumper]

I already knew that.

Thanks for showing up only after he has a good game.

If there's nothing else, we're quite done here.

[Harry Callahan]

ArgieSpurFAN,
Couldn't you at least go visit a Bonner thread and type something nice about a player that actually plays for the Spurs. Heck you could even do it in this dying thread.

I get the impression that you are a lot happier when a player that doesn't even play in SA has a good game or series of games than one who does. Am I wrong about this? Are you REALLY a Spurs fan?

How 'bout a little love for Bonner? C'mon argSPURSFAN.

[Cherry]

ArgieSpurFAN,
Couldn't you at least go visit a Bonner thread and type something nice about a player that actually plays for the Spurs. Heck you could even do it in this dying thread.

I get the impression that you are a lot happier when a player that doesn't even play in SA has a good game or series of games than one who does. Am I wrong about this? Are you REALLY a Spurs fan?

How 'bout a little love for Bonner? C'mon argSPURSFAN.

Well, you know, this is The Official Scola Thread and he can talk about him here.

Btw, Luis is getting better and Matt too :clap

Happy 2008 :toast

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Scola will be in a Spurs uni one day

[Harry Callahan]

Well, you know, this is The Official Scola Thread and he can talk about him here.

Btw, Luis is getting better and Matt too :clap

Happy 2008 :toast

I mentioned putting it in a Bonner thread. Does one exist? That big momentum from the Red Rocket may get it going.

Was Scola's damage mostly in garbage time the other night when they won? Didn't do much in the small ball game with GSW.

[jay014]

Scola>Bonner
ask Sequspur.
Who is Sequspur? Somebody in the front office.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Scola will be in a Spurs uni one day and will be beaten out of the rotation by Bonner and Mahinmi.
Fixed.

[duncan228]

Who is Sequspur? Somebody in the front office.

:lmao

[kuato]

I already knew that.

Thanks for showing up only after he has a good game.

If there's nothing else, we're quite done here. Showing up ? , do you want me to post every single day ? Scola is a good player (fact :P), and the most important, he is getting better at defense.